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From YouTube: Airport Commission | Feb 28 2023
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Special Meeting of the Palm Springs Airport Commission, held February 28th, 2023
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Thank
you,
hello
to
the
commission.
Members
I
want
to
thank
you
for
last
month
allowing
me
to
share
with
you
a
history
of
the
Wexler
design,
Airport
terminal
and
I'm
glad
today
to
be
talking
to
specifically
the
master
plan
subcommittee
and
the
Consulting
team.
I
was
very
pleased
to
read
yesterday
the
announcement
in
flying
SoCal
of
your
planned
relationship
with
the
Historic
Site
preservation
board
and
to
quote
preserving
The
Original,
Don,
Wexler
design
and
restoring
staying
true
to
the
historic
building.
D
We
all
understand
the
economic
benefit
of
architectural
tourism
in
that
regard.
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
value
of
the
wechsler
terminal
from
1966
it
increases
with
age,
preserving
the
original
Don
Wexler
design.
This
includes
not
just
the
class
one
protected,
West
facade,
but
also
from
the
with
the
current
National
Registry
designation.
It
sets
guidelines
for
the
interior
and
the
landscaping,
and
at
this
moment
in
time,
I
believe
our
historic
Airport
terminal
is
the
most
important
city-owned
asset.
D
Lastly,
we
have
a
community
filled
with
expertise
regarding
buildings
of
this
type
of
landscape
design
appropriate
for
the
restoration.
Please
ask
Christina
for
my
personal
contact
information
I'd
be
very
happy
and
honored
to
provide
you
with
contacts
of
people
which
can
help
guide
you
through
this
process
with
our
community.
So
thank
you
very
much.
H
Hi,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
and
to
build
on
what
Gary
wechsler
said
in
Reading
over
the
previous
airport
master
plan.
I
couldn't
find
the
words
design
or
architecture
or
visual
experience
used
as
criteria
for
any
planning
goals
or
decision
making.
Palm
Springs
has
known
the
world
over
for
its
first
class
architecture,
both
private
and
Civic.
Most
of
this
was
built
in
the
1950s
to
the
1970s
and
has
stood
the
test
of
time.
H
Our
own
original
Airport
terminal
is
a
Class
one
historic
structure
by
Resident
architect,
Donald
Wexler.
The
region
gets
a
tremendous
Financial
benefit
by
hosting
modernism
week
and
other
design
and
architecture-oriented
events
which
attract
visitors
from
across
the
globe
who
come
here
because
of
our
unique
architectural
Heritage.
It
is
essential
that
the
words
to
design
architecture
and
visual
experience
are
included
as
goals
and
objectives
in
the
master
plan,
and
we
expect
high
quality
results,
not
cookie
cutter
budget
Solutions.
H
We
are
fortunate
to
have
a
large
creative
class
of
residents
with
illustrious
careers
and
expertise
in
the
fields
of
design
and
architecture,
including
them
in
the
process
will
assure
that
the
Palm
Springs
Airport
continues
to
be
the
unique
experience
that
visitors
and
residents
expect
and
a
world-class
piece
of
architecture
and
design
that
represents
the
personality
of
Palm
Springs.
The
financial
well-being
of
the
entire
Valley
depends
on
it.
Thank
you.
I
Here
in
town
and
I've
heard
over
the
last
decade,
many
people
saying
that
it's
unfortunate
that
corporate
has
been
added
over
the
Toronto
and
original
architectural
details
have
been
covered
up
and
outside
benches
and
feeding
and
Landscaping
have
been
altered
to
the
point
that
it
doesn't
feel
like
that.
Wonderful,
easy,
breezy,
pumpkins
airport,
given
that
it's
become
an
international
airport
and
the
town
has
grown.
All
of
that
is
understandable,
but
we
have
this
golden
opportunity
to
bring
it
back
to
that.
I
Wonderful
feeling,
especially
on
the
heels
of
modernism
week,
which
has
proven
to
be
one
of
the
huge
economic
drivers
of
the
area
and
has
brought
hundreds
of
thousands
of
visitors
to
the
Coachella
Valley
and
pumping
over
many
many
years,
who
are
wondering
why
that
airport
doesn't
evoke
its
original
early
60s
Feeling
by
Donald
Wexford,
one
of
our
important
Master
Architects,
and
being
that
it
is
on
the
national
register
historic
places.
This
building
does
deserve
that
proper
restoration
attention
and
love
and
care.
I
I
would
just
quickly
point
out
that
the
geralda
Ford
Airport
in
Michigan
and
also
Phoenix
Sky
Harbor,
have
done
wonderful
things
with
their
trailers
and
have
even
had
local
competitions
of
various
and
artists,
create
pattern
within
the
Toronto
and
I.
Think
we
have
that
opportunity
here,
if
not
to
restore
it
to
the
original
to
our
look.
Lastly,
preservations.
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B
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K
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me,
I'm,
Harry,
Barrett,
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
airport
and
just
sit
around
the
table
is
their
commission.
Their
job
is
to
help
advise
and
form
the
future
of
the
airport,
so
they
do
great
work.
I
appreciate
them
for
being
here.
I
appreciate
your
interest
in
being
here.
K
Obviously,
Palm
Springs
is
growing
and
it's
touching
every
part
of
the
facility
we're
having
challenges
and
the
terminal
challenges
with
parking
challenges
on
the
Airfield
challenges
with
general
aviation,
and
the
plan
here
is
to
fix
those
challenges
and
for
an
airport
director.
This
is
the
fun
stuff.
This
is
the
stuff
that
we
get
excited
about
because
we
get
to
create
and
we
get
to
come
up
with
new
ideas.
So
that's
the
the
context
for
what
we're
doing
here
today.
K
Back
in
September,
the
commission
met,
we
had
a
strategy
session.
Did
you
start
generating
those
ideas?
What
we
wanted,
the
future
of
PSP
to
be,
and
just
to
summarize
some
of
those
things
we
discussed
the
funding
mechanism
for
how
we
did
projects
and
what
those
agreements
look
like
with
our
rental
car
companies
with
our
Airlines.
Our
user
fees,
things
like
that,
we
discussed
that
we
need
to
be
more
creative
and
Innovative
going
into
the
future.
K
We
talked
about
customer
experience,
we
talked
about
maintaining
the
facilities
and
which
facilities
to
keep
and
What
needs
to
move.
We
also
talked
about
improving
safety.
That's
a
huge
one
for
Aviation
is
making
sure
that
the
aviation
system
is
safe
and
ultimately,
what
that
culminated
in
is
what
would
we
look
like
in
the
year
2042
so
20
years
from
now?
So
with
me
to
my
left
is
Ryan
Hayes
he's
with
meat
and
Hunt
meat
and
Hunt
was
the
consultant
selected.
K
F
L
Great
well
good
afternoon,
everyone
it's
an
absolute
pleasure
to
be
here.
We
are
really
excited
to
finally
be
underway
and
working
on
this
project.
As
Harry
mentioned,
we
were
selected
in
October.
We
spent
a
couple
of
months
working
really
closely
with
airport
staff
to
develop
a
scope
for
the
project
and
I
shared
a
little
bit
about
what
the
planning
process
and
the
schedule
looks
like
at
your
last
meeting
in
January
and
I've
got
those
same
slides
here
today.
L
So
it'll
be
a
little
bit
repetitive,
but
I've
got
some
additional
information
that
I
want
to
share
with
you
all
about
kind
of
what
kind
of
conceptual
planning
and
a
master
plan
process
looks
like
to
get
you
all
thinking,
thinking
conceptually
oh
I,
guess
before
I
start
I
want
to
I
I
neglected
in
January
to
give
a
thank
you
to
Victoria.
So
Victoria
was
our
main
point
of
contact
through
the
scoping
process.
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So
our
agenda
for
slideshow
is
to
reintroduce
ourselves
I'm,
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
a
master
plan
is,
what
it's
not
and
why
it's
needed
I'll
go
over
again.
Those
slides
that
I
showed
you
in
January
that
outline
the
planning
process,
as
well
as
the
planning
schedule,
and
then
I
I
really
want
you
all
to
hear
from
Katie
about
our
our
scope,
our
ideas,
our
plans
for
public
Outreach
in
this
planning
process
and
and
so
I'll.
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L
You
great
thank
you
for
joining
us
Kim.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
Katie
and
then,
and
then
we
also
have
Neil
McLean
from
Gensler
and
we
were
really
excited
to
be
partnered
with
Gensler
on
this
project.
Gensler
has
a
long
history
of
architectural
works
for
this
airport.
We
do
have
six
other
specialty
subconsulting
firms
on
the
project,
some
of
the
roles
and
responsibilities
of
those
firms
include
a
boundary
survey.
We're
going
to
survey
the
entire
airport.
L
We've
got
some
budget
to
do
some
property
research
and
make
sure
we
clear
up
any
discrepancies
on
where
property
lines
are
fence
lines.
That
type
of
thing.
We
have
a
firm
who's
going
to
do
an
aerial
survey.
Those
of
you
in
the
room
can
see
the
the
aerial
photo
on
the
wall.
Here
we're
going
to
get
a
new
version
of
that.
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We
also
have
a
firm
who's
going
to
help
us
with
forecasts
and
financial
analysis
and
then
finally,
a
firm
that
specializes
in
environmental
California
Environmental
Quality
act
SQL
requirements.
So
that's
that's
the
rules
of
the
other
subs
that
make
up
the
team
so
just
a
little
bit
about
what
this
is
and
why
we're
doing
it
and
again
we
went
over
this
in
January,
so
I'll
go
fast,
but
we
can
certainly
back
up
if
you
need
to
at
its
heart.
L
The
master
plan
is
a
decision-making
tool
for
for
the
city
as
the
sponsor
of
this
airport
that
will
guide
orderly
development
of
future
airport
facilities,
it
informs
management
and
operating
policies
for
the
airport.
It
develops
a
layout
of
airport
facilities.
It
identifies
space
for
future
airport
development,
the
if
you're
not
familiar.
The
FAA
pays
for
approximately
90
percent
of
this
project
and
the
reason
that
Master
planning
is
eligible
for
FAA
funds
is:
it
provides
the
FAA
with
a
couple
of
things.
L
It
tells
them
what
Harry
and
his
team
are
thinking
in
terms
of
future
projects
and
allows
them
to
start
programming
funding
to
help
support
those
projects.
It
also
shows
the
FAA
that
the
airport
is
laid
out
in
a
way
that
meets
its
their
standards,
so
the
FAA
has
designed
standards
that
fit
all
airports
around
the
country
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
strings
that
comes
with
their
money.
Is
they
want
you
to
meet
their
standards?
So
that's
a
that's.
L
The
planning
process
also
includes
some
environmental
review
for
the
purposes
of
sequa
and
NEPA
SQL
being
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act
and
NEPA
being
the
National
Environmental
Policy
Act,
and
then
finally,
it
the
document.
The
final
master
plan
document
is
very
useful
to
city
and
county
planners,
as
well
as
as
they
do,
land
use
planning
for
the
entire
Valley,
as
they
do
Regional
Transportation
Planning.
So
the
idea
is
to
make
a
planning
document
that
fits
with
with
those
other
local
planning
documents.
L
If
not
a
couple
of
things
that
a
master
plan
is
not
so
it's
not
a
business
plan
per
se,
so
the
FAA
considers
it
a
airport
responsibility
to
do
business
planning
in
terms
of
Revenue
development
and
setting
Revenue
goals
and
and
typical
business
planning
practices.
That
said,
we
are
going
to
do
a
financial
implementation
analysis
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
align
funding
sources
with
capital
project
needs.
L
So
there
there's
a
bit
of
Finance
work,
that's
included
in
the
master
plan,
but
it's
not
a
business
plan
per
se.
If
that
makes
sense,
it's
also
not
a
marketing
plan.
The
FAA
considers
marketing
a
local
responsibility
of
the
airport
sponsor
to
to
Market
air
service
and
Market
the
airports,
and
it's
not
a
noise
study.
But
again
this
is
a.
This
is
a
subject
that
we
will
touch
on.
L
We
will
develop
new
noise
Contours
as
part
of
the
SQL
analysis,
so
we
take
the
forecast
of
activity
and
the
and
the
fleet
mix,
and
we
put
all
that
into
a
model
and
the
model
gives
us
noise
Contours,
which
are
essentially
like
a
topographic.
Contour
map
connects
points
of
equal
noise
around
the
airport,
so
we
will
look
at
the
the
recommendations
of
the
master
plan
and
how
they
might
either
negatively
impact
the
surrounding
Community
or
have
potential
positive
impacts
from
a
noise
standpoint.
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L
There's
a
whole
lot
of
reasons.
Why
we're
doing
this?
The
the
last
master
plan
process
was
completed
in
2015.
The
FAA
recommends
that
airports
at
least
every
seven
to
ten
years,
undergo
a
planning
process
like
this
and
they'll.
They
will
even
consider
funding
planning
processes
sooner
than
seven
years
if
things
change
significantly.
For
instance,
an
airport
attracts
international
service
that
didn't
have
international
service.
That
might
be
a
major
change
that
wouldn't
necessitate
a
new
master
plan.
L
Obviously,
level
of
service
is
going
to
be
very,
very
important,
particularly
on
the
terminal
side,
as
we
analyze
parking
vehicle
circulation
all
of
the
spaces
and
the
processors
within
the
terminal.
We're
going
to
look
we're
going
to
quantify
things
like
queuing
times
and
and
space
requirements
for
each
of
the
functional
areas
of
the
terminal
building,
so
passenger
level
of
service
enhancing
the
passenger
experience
is
going
to
be
a
big
component.
Christina
got
a
handful
of
public
comments
already
coming
in
today,
and
quite
a
few
of
those
touched
on
the
passenger
experience.
L
I
believe
so
that's
that's
one
of
the
that's
another
reason
why
we're
doing
this
there's
also
just
been
a
lot
of
it.
Quite
frankly,
the
aviation
industry
is
very
Dynamic.
Things
are
changing
all
the
time
and
change
and
they
change
fast,
and
a
lot
of
things
have
happened
since
2015
there
have
been
Fleet
mix
changes
in
the
industry
before
the
pandemic,
the
airlines
were
already
upgaging
aircraft,
moving
away
from
Regional
Jets
and
towards
Mainline
narrow
body
aircraft,
and
the
pandemic
has
just
accelerated
that
transition.
L
If
you
will,
the
potential
for
international
flights
is
another
reason,
parking
and
rental
cars
and
TNC
lots
of
changes
on
on
the
land
side
of
of
airports,
lots
of
new
trends
that
we
want
to
again
try
to
get
ahead
of
and
then
finally,
the
airport
also
serves
an
active
general
aviation
Community,
a
couple
of
fbos
FBO.
If
you're
not
familiar,
stands
for
a
fixed-based
operator.
These
are
businesses
that
provide
services
like
fueling
and
Catering
to
general
aviation
aircraft.
So.
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When
the
airlines
all
schedule
flights
are
the
same
hour
that
peak
hour,
demand
is,
is
where
the
terminal
really
becomes
most
stressed
and
where
the
level
of
service
for
the
passengers
drops
to
its
lowest.
If
that
makes
sense,
so
there'll
be
a
big
focus
on
the
peak
hour
on
those
kind
of
peaking,
Trends
and
then
obviously
the
seasonality
of
this
airport
also
contributes
to
that.
To
that
peaking.
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It
gives
us
elevation
data
down
to
like
what
Matt,
I
guess,
half
a
foot
so
really
really
good
data
for
estimating
the
cost
of
projects
and
that's
a
big
component
terminal,
obviously
terminal
space,
programming
and
terminal
alternatives
are
important
and
then
figuring
out.
How
to
pay
for
all
of
these
projects
is
a
key
planning
consideration.
A
L
K
So
on
the
line,
I
believe
we
have
Joel
montavo
who's,
our
city
engineer
as
well
as
Lindsey,
page
who's
with
our
sustainability
office
and
then
perhaps
Larry's
online
I'm,
not
sure,
but
he's
with
RIT
Department
together.
That
group
is
is
going
to
work
with
meat
and
hunt
and
with
the
subconsultants
to
help
form
this
master
plan
process.
L
You
know
at
least
a
week
in
advance
of
a
meeting,
have
asked
them
to
review
and
and
be
ready
to
discuss
the
material
and
then
we'll
we'll
come
and
have
a
meeting
talk
about
it.
Like
Harry
said
they
really
are.
The
intent
is
to
have
the
working
group
be
a
sounding
board
to
the
consultant
team,
a
sounding
board
to
airport
staff
when
we
do
public,
open
houses,
public
Outreach
events,
you
all
that
our
working
group
members
are
absolutely
invited.
You
are
if
you
want
to
be
identified
as
as
a
working
group.
L
K
L
Was
talking
about
earlier
when
the
airlines
all
scheduled
the
flights?
At
the
same
time,
then
we
run
out
of
gates,
and
so
it's
it's
probably.
A
combination
of
the
previous
master
plan
underestimating
the
growth,
but
also
just
changes
in
the
airline
industry
and
how
Airline,
schedulers
and
and
dispatchers
set
up
display
times
that
has
contributed
to
this.
A
L
This
was
a
plan
to
renovate
the
ticketing
area,
the
two
orange
boxes-
The
Orange
Box,
this
Orange
Box
being
the
baggage
claim
area
this
Orange
Box
being
the
ticketing
Wing.
There
was
a
plan
for
some
renovation,
and
some
of
that
has
happened.
I
guess
with
the
expansion
and
renovation
of
ticketing
wings,
but
it
was
fairly
minor
and.
L
So
just
wanted
to
wanted
to
show
you
all
that
I
mentioned
I
want
I
want
I,
wanted
to
help.
You
all
start
thinking
conceptually.
So
the
reason
I
want
to
show
you
a
couple
of
concept.
Plans
from
other
airports
is
is
just
that
to
get
help.
You
understand
the
level
of
detail
that
goes
into
Master
planning,
so
we're
not.
We
always
have
to
be
careful
to
not
cross
that
line
into
design.
We're
not
someone
mentioned
in
the
public
comments
that
the
previous
master
plan
did
not
have
the
word
design.
L
We
will
have
the
word
design
included,
but
again,
this
is
a
planning
process
to
come
up
with
a
concept
for
the
terminal.
Whatever
comes
out
of
this
master
plan
will
be
designed
by
an
Architecture,
Firm
or
Airfield.
Projects
will
be
designed
by
an
engineering
firm
that
that
is
selected
separately
from
the
airport.
So
we
we
take
the
planning
to
a
concept
level
and
we
provide
enough
detail
to
do
cost
estimates
and
to
figure
out
how
to
pay
for
the
project
and
Define
the
project,
but
we're
not
designed
if
that
makes
sense.
L
So,
just
a
couple
other
airports
I
tried
to
pick
three
three
airports
that
we've
worked
at
that
are
are
really
busting
at
the
seams
and
growing
fast.
This
is
Northwest
Arkansas
re,
National
Airport.
This
is
the
northwest
corner
of
Arkansas.
This
airport
has
really
grown
fast
before
the
pandemic.
They
were
about
to
pass
Little
Rock
is
the
busiest
commercial
airport
in
the
state
of
Arkansas.
L
You
can
see
they
have
an
existing
Concourse
that
comes
off
in
kind
of
an
l-shape
off
the
terminal.
What
I
would
point
out
on
this
Concourse
is
just
how
narrow
it
is.
It
was
essentially
designed
for
Regional
Jet
Aircraft
crj200
crj-700s
Embraer
175s
aircraft,
with
seating
capacities
that
max
out
at
75
passengers
now
of
those
11
Gates.
Probably
eight
of
them
are
being
served
daily
by
narrow
body
aircraft,
and
so
the
the
space
is
inside.
That
comp
horse
are
just
not
big
enough
there's.
L
L
This
parking
deck
number
one
has
has
now
been
built,
that's
in
place,
and
then
they
have
a
plan
for
another
parking
deck,
as
well
as
a
rental
car
parking
deck
to
the
West,
but
you
can
see-
and
this
is
kind
of
how
the
projects
on
the
right
of
this
plan
were
broken
out
by
by
the
planning
term,
short-term
medium
term
long
term,
and
then
the
purple
projects
are
basically
outside
of
the
planning
period.
So
Harry
mentioned
2042
is
our
planning
Horizon.
L
Let's
see
the
the
second
concept
plan
I
wanted
to
show.
You
is
Phoenix,
Mesa,
Gateway
Airport.
This
is
an
airport
in
the
Southeast.
On
the
Southeast
side
of
Phoenix,
that
is,
is
growing
rapidly.
They
have
a
lot
of
service
from
low-cost
carriers.
This
is
a
plan
to
relocate
their
terminal
to
the
opposite
side
of
the
field.
The
current
terminal
has
been
expanded
as
much
as
it
possibly
can
there's
no
more
room
for
growth.
L
So
in
this
master
plan
for
Phoenix
Mesa,
we
looked
at
both
expansion
Alternatives
of
the
current
terminal,
as
well
as
a
brand
new
terminal
on
the
other
side,
and
you
can
see
that
the
concept
here
was
was
kind
of
a
a
curve,
a
linear,
T
structure.
Neil,
you
probably
have
better
terms
for
this
than
I
do,
but,
but
you
can
see
the
gating,
the
gating
layout,
the
terminal
building
the
parking
layout,
the
Loop
Road
this.
This
was
the
master
plan
concept
level.
L
This
this
concept
has
moved
into
what's
called
Advanced
planning,
so
they're
doing
kind
of
what
I,
what
I
call
preliminary
design
to
define
the
project
a
little
bit
in
more
detail.
They
really
do
think
that
they're
probably
going
to
start
designing
and
constructing
this
terminal
in
the
next
five
six
seven
years,
and
then
the
third
airport
concept
that
came
out
of
a
master
plan
is
Reno
Tahoe.
L
So
again,
a
fast
growing
airport
Reno's
got
two
current
concourses
that
you
can
kind
of
see
on
the
aerial
photo
underneath
here
that
had
about
20
gates,
18
Gates,
and
this
is
a
plan
to
get
them
to
32
total
Gates.
You
can
see
with
three
three
common
courses,
the
terminal
in
the
middle.
They
do
have
a
parking
deck
immediately
in
front
of
the
terminal
that
needs
to
be
expanded
and
there's
some
plans
for
some
rental
car
improvements
at
Reno.
L
But
hopefully
these
these
three
concept
plans
kind
of
help.
You
understand
the
level
of
detail
and
we
will
have
some
drawings
that
are
more
detailed
than
this.
That
lay
out
the
spaces,
look
at
where
concessions
will
go
in
these
areas
and
but
eventually,
what
gets
on
gets
put
on
the
Airport
layout
plan
kind
of
looks
like
this
questions
about
the
concept
level
planning
just
going
to
ask
when
we
get
to
ask
questions.
L
L
K
L
A
A
J
K
J
L
It
in
15
years
yeah,
that's
a
fantastic
question.
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
multi-ponged
approach
where
we
want
to
look
at
the
passenger,
demand
analysis
and
really
understand.
What's
realistic,
what's
causing
all
this
additional
service
by
the
airlines,
why
are
they
adding
so
many
seats
to
the
market
is
what's
the
potential
for
that
to
continue?
Is
you
know
it's
been
double-digit
growth
for
a
number
of
years?
Is
that
realistic
to
to
assume
that
continues
into
the
into
the
planning
period?
L
So,
instead
of
saying
by
2030,
you
need
to
build
these
four
projects,
we're
going
to
say
when
the
airport,
the
airport's,
currently
at
3
million
total
passengers
when
you
get
to
3.5
million
here's,
what
we
think
you
need
when
you
get
to
4
million
here's,
what
we
think
you
need
and
when
you
get
to
5
million
here's,
what
we're
thinking.
So
it
gives
the
plan
a
little
bit
more
shelf
life
because
you
tie
improvements
to
activity
instead
of
tying
improvements
to
a
year.
L
L
L
Low
volume
times
can
also
be
really
bad
customer
experience
times
because
of
either
under
resourcing
or
decisions
to
close
certain
facilities
at
certain
hours,
etc,
etc.
So
I
would
just
urge
you
to,
like
you
know
it's
the
80
20
rule,
maybe
80
of
the
effort
or
90
weeks
ago
at
the
peaking,
but
if
you
would
want
to
not
Overlook
the
non-power
issues,
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
of
that
really
just
Falls
to
airport
Administration,
as
opposed
to
master
planning
out
there.
B
K
L
Yes,
that
is
a
consideration,
obviously
acquiring
developed
property
or
airport
purposes.
It's
going
to
be
hard
to
do,
but
there
are
a
couple,
as
you
mentioned,
a
couple
of
parcels
that
are
undeveloped,
adjacent
to
the
airport.
That
might
make
sense,
and
if
it
does,
the
master
plan
will
look
at
that
and
if
we
can
show
the
FAA
that
that
land
is
needed
for
Aviation
purposes
for
airport
purposes,
it
makes
it
eligible
for
NFA
participation
and
the
funding
of
acquiring
that
land.
So.
L
It
is
the
FAA
wants
to
see
the
land
needed
fairly
soon.
Thank
you
years
ago.
They
did
a
lot
of
the
airports
identified
land
that
they
needed
for
20
years,
and
then
they
identified
land
that
wasn't
needed
for
20
years,
but
they
still
wanted
to
acquire
it
for
land
use
compatibility
to
make
sure
that
incompatible
development
didn't
happen.
L
The
FAA
called
that
land,
banking
and
they've
tried
to
move
away
from
land
banking.
So
much
if
they
give
you
Palm
Springs
a
grant
to
acquire
property.
They
really
want
to
see
it
developed
in
the
probably
in
the
short
term,
if
not
the
medium
term.
Five.
Ten
years,
five,
ten
years,
yeah
we'll
we'll
talk
a
lot
about
in
this
document,
short-term
medium
term,
long
term,
short-term,
five
years,
medium
term,
being
six
to
ten
years
and
long
term
being
11
to
20..
L
L
L
Springs
is
a
little
bit
crystal
ball
work,
but
from
a
planning
standpoint,
we
are
going
to
look
at
reservation
of
space
for
potential,
whether
it's
landside
and
passenger
facilities
for
those
type
of
aircraft
or
the
the
vertaports
are
very
similar
to
the
heliport
at
an
airport.
You've
all
probably
seen
that
age
painted
on
a
apron.
You
can
have
a
heliport
to
an
apron
area,
but
it
does
have
some
setbacks
and
some
constraints
that
we
need
to
consider.
But.
E
F
L
A
great
point
we
I
would
assume,
since
it's
a
1960s
era
terminal,
it's
probably
not
electronically
available
expansion
plans,
but
we
would
love
to
see
those
plans
and
and
think
about.
Is
that
concept,
whatever
concept
was
developed
in
the
original
design,
still
made
sense?
Yeah,
it's
just
a
great
touch.
Each
Wing
was
designed
to
be
expanded.
K
K
L
L
So
to
that
comment
on
the
on
the
baggage,
the
baggage
claim
Wing,
as
well
as
the
ticketing
Wing.
There
is
an
opportunity
to
continue
to
expand
in
both
directions,
so
some
of
the
constraints
related
to
systems
that
have
changed
as
Harry
mentioned.
Obviously,
the
baggage
handling
system
just
takes
up
a
lot
more
space
than
was
contemplated
in
the
original
design
and
that
there
may
be
changes
coming
soon
during
this
planning
process
to
that
that
age
handling
system
that
we'll
have
to
consider
in
the
in
the
planning
but
they're.
L
L
L
There's
the
list
of
constraints
is,
is
pretty
long,
but
again
some
of
these
some
of
these
You
could
argue
whether
they're
a
constraint
or
an
opportunity,
but
but
is
it
is
it
par
for
the
course
when
it
comes
to
an
airport,
a
bar
size
based
on
our
history,
based
on
all
those
factors.
This
is.
This
is
not
absolutely
crazy,
scary.
No,
you
want
a
Runway
screaming,
no,
not
at
all
that
every
airport
has
these
challenges.
That
is
really
what
planning
is
for.
L
There's
no
there's
no
easy
answer
to
the
problems
that
face
this
airport,
and
that's
that's
why
the
FAA
recommends
you
do
planning
you
look
at
multiple
alternatives
to
solve.
The
con
to
solve
the
issues-
and
you
come
up
with
screening
criteria
to
that
help,
you
make
a
decision
between
those
alternatives.
K
L
L
Great
okay
I
want
to
get
to
Katie's
slides
on
public
Outreach,
because
that
is
really
important.
But
just
before
we
do
that,
we
looked
at
these
in
January.
We
break
the
planning
process
into
these
kind
of
four
pillars:
pre-planning
phase
investigation,
phase,
solution,
phase
and
then
implementation.
L
So
in
pre-planning,
we've
we've
done
most
of
the
work
that
was
really
scoping
the
project,
so
we've
done
most
of
column
number
one
we're
now
about
to
kick
off
most
of
the
tasks
in
column,
two,
the
investigation
stage,
that's
where
the
air
service
analysis
takes
place,
that's
where
the
forecasts
take
place
and
then
our
terminal
planners
take
those
forecasts
and
those
peak
hour
projections
and
turn
them
into
Passenger
Terminal
square
footage
requirements.
So
how
many
square
foot
does
each
component
of
the
terminal
need
to
be
and
how
many
processors
do
we
need?
L
So
that's
all
the
work
and
column
two
and
column
three
is
when
we,
the
fun
part
Harry
likes
to
call
it
the
fun
part,
because
we
put
colored
pencils
to
paper
and
started
coming
up
with
Alternatives
and
layouts
and
as
planners
we
do
draw
with
crayons
and
colored
pencils
and
magic
markers
and
not
really
sharpened.
Pencils.
Turban
pencils
is
the
the
designer
stage.
L
A
E
L
An
opportunity
since
I've
been
on
a
permission
to
spinal,
been
a
default
like
this
is
like
the
Messiah
coming
and
I
have
a
contrarian
view
on
this,
but
I'm
not
an
expert
but
from
a
user
experience
perspective.
I
think.
The
fact
that
he
rental
car
facility
is
part
of
a
One-Stop
experience
in
this
airport
for
the
rivals,
yeah
and
departures
is
huge.
L
We're
building
the
Conrad
and
it's
going
to
be
wherever
it's
going
to
be
and
whatever
we
are
changing
the
fundamental
customer
arrival
and
departure
experience
here
and
so
I
would
just
urge
that
we
look
at
scenarios
before
we
just
tell
gansler
approaches
on
that.
Building
over
there
we
started
designing
that
building.
That's
the
default
so
go
continue.
Designing
that
building
over
there
I've
been
troubled
by
that
for
a
long
time.
L
Every
time
I've
experienced
an
airport,
as
you
can
tell
I,
think
I
travel
a
lot
on
where
they've
moved
from
it's
right
in
the
facility
to
it's
a
Consolidated.
The
customer
experience
diminishes
because
it
has,
you
know
basically
an
hour
inbound
and
outbound
to
your
entire
experience
at
that
airport.
Yeah
understood
if
you're
taking
shuttles
to
a
yeah
off-site
parking
facility
or
a
parking
deck
yeah
in
120
degrees,
you're,
right
and
I'm.
L
L
It's
it's
probably
going
to
be
more
realistically
12
to
18
months
before
we
get
to
a
full
master
plan
concept,
but
then,
at
that
18-month
stages,
when
all
of
the
SQL
analysis
has
to
take
place,
so
the
SQL
analysis
has
some
State
regulated
time
frames
for
public
comment
and
and
response
and
those
type
of
things.
So
we
really
but
Harry
and
his
team
have
asked
us
to
really
focus
on
the
terminal
first.
So
most
of
the
master
plan
resources
are
being
dedicated
to
the
the
terminal
area.
L
Initially,
the
hope
is
that
by
September
time
frame
we
get
to
a
concept
that
we
think
makes
sense
for
this
airport
on
the
terminal
side,
and
then
we
can
spend
all
of
this
time
and
then
at
that
point
we
go,
do
the
rest
of
the
master
planning
for
the
entire
airport
and
we
spend
that
time,
refining
the
terminal
concept
and
then
somewhere
in
the
12
to
18
month
time
frame.
We
get
to
a
draft
master
plan
that
can
be.
The
city
council
has
to
basically
bless
starting
the
SQL
process.
L
The
master
plan
is
in
draft.
It
will
not
be
in
draft
form
and
18
people.
It
will
not
be
in
final
form
in
18
months.
It
will
be
in
draft
form,
it's
not
final
and
it's
not
a
policy
document
until
the
city
council
accepts
it
and
they
can't
accept
it
until
the
SQL
analysis
is
finished,
so
the
entire
schedule
is
30
months.
The
hope
is
that,
at
the
end
of
that
30
months
is
when
it's
ready
for
the
SQL
analysis
is
done
and
it's
ready
for
city
council
adoption
and
the
terminal
focus.
L
L
M
M
M
We
know
this
is
really
important
for
the
airport
and
its
airport
mission
to
engage
the
community
and
to
bring
in
some
inclusive
Outreach
efforts
that
attract
a
variety
of
diverse
voices
with
that
I
export
Innovation
and
the
new
that's
Harry
is
focused
on,
but
we
wanted
to
deliver
some
specific
stakeholder
input
that
helps
guide
this
master
planning
process.
So
over
the
course
of
that
30-month
update,
we
and
the
need
and
Hunt
team
will
coordinate
with
airport
staff
to
manage
the
working
groups
and
the
public
Outreach
develop.
M
This
strategic
approach,
we
hope,
will
keep
the
community
educated
and
participating
in
the
airport
master
plan
process.
Essentially
at
aviatrix
we
are
serving
as
the
pin
and
microphone
for
the
airport
as
it
provides
information
the
community,
but
also
the
pandemic.
From
the
community,
as
it
provides
feedback
to
the
important
project
staff,
as
Ryan
mentioned,
public
participation
is
key
essential
in
this
airport,
Master
planning
process,
and
so
throughout.
The
master
plan
process
and
the
subsequent
sequel
process
will
be
hosting
several
open
houses,
as
well
as
inviting
the
public
to
participate
in
airport
permission.
M
In
addition
to
the
public
meetings
and
the
commission
meetings,
We'll
be
asking
for
public
feedback
throughout
the
course
of
our
Communications
across
a
variety
of
channels.
So,
whether
online
on
paper
or
through
a
permission
comment,
all
feedback
will
be
collected
and
considered
part
of
the
project
record
next
slide.
M
The
central
element
for
our
Outreach
efforts
will
be
our
project
website
here.
At
any
time,
everyone
has
equal
instant
access
to
all
of
the
airport,
Master
planning
documents
and
working
papers.
They
can
submit
comments
for
public
record
review,
FAQs
and
read
block
updates
as
the
project
progresses.
The
site
is
independent
from
the
passenger
facing
airport
site
intentionally.
M
This
allows
for
Clear
communication
about
the
specific
airport
master
plan
efforts
when
the
project
is
complete,
the
final
documents
will
move
to
the
airport's
permanent
website
and
this
site
will
sunset,
but
in
the
meantime
it
provides
direct
instant
access
to
those
seeking
information
about
the
master
pen.
We
are
in
the
final
review
process
of
that
website.
M
Excuse
me,
the
next
slide,
if
you
will,
as
this
project
kicks
off
we'll
continue
sharing
updates
in
a
variety
of
channels,
we'll
use
the
Project
Blog
to
keep
the
community
informed
about
the
project.
Progress
offering
high-level
takeaways,
as
well
as
access
to
the
working
papers
and
draft
documents
that
they're
related
to
we'll
use
the
media
and
press
to
amplify
our
work
and
make
sure
that
their
audiences
understand
the
progress
we're
making
and
then
share
those
media
stories
on
the
project
specific
website
as
well.
M
We'll
use
the
airport
social
media
channels
to
keep
the
airport
master
plan
top
of
mind
for
the
community,
as
well
as
using
those
channels
to
invite
people
to
the
public
meetings
and
to
direct
them
to
specific
elements
of
the
master
plan.
Project
website
we'll
be
keeping
that
website
up
to
date
with
project
information,
as
well
as
by
using
residence
questions
in
our
project.
Faqs,
so
you'll
be
able
to
submit
a
comment
on
the
website.
But
if
you
have
a
question,
I
will
respond
to
you
directly
and
answer
it.
M
If
this
is
something
that
we
hear
again-
or
we
think
this
is
a
great
topic
that
we
haven't
addressed
specifically
on
the
current
FAQs-
we'll
continue
to
update
those
FAQs
to
make
sure
that
as
the
project
morphs
and
evolves
that
we're
continuing
to
keep
the
project
to
keep
the
community
informed
about
what
is
happening
and
those
are
the
the
updates
for
us
again.
It's
going
to
be
a
series
of
meetings,
a
lot
of
information
on
that
project
website
and
then
regular
Communications
across
digital
and
media
platforms
that
happen
to
take
any
questions.
M
I
C
L
That
was
it
yeah.
Obviously
we
haven't
done
any
work,
yet
this
was
intended
to
overview
the
process
for
you,
but
we
are
going
to
I'm
going
to
be
working
math
10
hours
a
day
starting
tomorrow.
No
but
yeah
I
appreciate
the
I
appreciate
you
sharing
Katie
this.
This
really
is
intended
to
be
a
transparent
process,
we're
not
doing
anything
behind
closed
doors.
The
decision,
the
ultimate
goal
of
the
master
plan,
is
to
provide
some
analysis
that
can
be
used
to
make
informed
decisions.
K
The
city
manager
is
going
to
be
very
involved
in
this
process
and
where
we
are
mostly
because
there
are
a
lot
of
decisions
that
need
to
be
made
in
this
process.
There
are
also
some
natural
kind
of
touch.
Points
for
the
council
will
need
to
be
involved.
Brian
mentioned
the
alternative
states
where
we're
starting
a
plan
where
buildings
go.
You
know,
is
the
runway
going
to
stay
the
same
things
like
that?
That's
an
area
where
the
council
would
need
to
be
involved.
You.
B
K
So
so
I
mean
I
think
from
my
perspective
and
I
think
I
probably
share
some
standard
view.
We're
not
walking
into
this
process
with
any
preconceived
ideas
on
what
airport
would
look
like
20
years
from
now.
The
idea
here
is
that
we
form
those
ideas
throughout
this
process
so
that
we
can
come
up
with
something
that.
J
L
D
L
L
So
we
know
we
have
to
have
some
sort
of
term
over
customs
and
all
of
that-
and
we
seem
to
have
space
before
that,
but
one
of
our
flights
from
Mexico
I'm
not
sure
how
practical,
which
I
think
would
be
helpful,
I,
don't
sure
how
practical
that
be
I
mean
when
we
actually
have
flights
coming
from
London
and
other
International
parts
of
the
world
realistically,
so
I
hope
we
find
out
what
is
the
feasibility?
We
all
think
it's
feasible
with
this
International
term
or.
L
In
terms
of
who
we
actually
use
it,
we've
heard
rumors
that
aerolingus
would
love
to
fly
from
from
Shannon
recover
to
Palm
Springs.
You
know
the
purpose
thing,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
true
or
not
most
of
the
commentary
is
really
from
Mexico.
Most
of
the
Canadian
flights
are
pretty
cleared
into
Canada
already,
with.
L
L
A
E
L
L
A
E
C
E
J
J
How
we
can
make
the
airport
future
proof
in
terms
of
making
sure
we
have
the
right
Technologies,
making
sure
we
have
the
right
mix
of
things.
I
mean
we
are
not
like
certain
airports
that
have
lots
of
land
around
us.
We
are
really
boxed
in
and
so
I
think
our
aspect.
We
need
to
manage
expectations
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
build
20
30,
40
Gates
we're
just
not,
and
we
just
don't
have
that
type
of
capability,
so
I'm
looking
for
an
intelligent
plan.
J
I
guess
is
what
I'm
trying
to
say
that
we
all
understand
what
our
limitations
are
and
maximize
what
we
can
in
terms
of
acknowledging
our
limitations.
I
think
the
Commissioners
understand
this
I'm,
not
so
sure
the
community
understands
this
and
so
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
move
forward
with
that.
So.
J
K
One
or
anything
back
from
LAX,
which
I
do
a
lot
so
I
love
that
experience,
there's
a
way
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
Really
welcome
some
thoughts
that
maybe
the
rental
car
companies
have
on
New
Day
in
five
years.
We're
going
to
be
doing
it.
This
way,
kind
of
thing,
that'd
be
great,
I
guess
the
other
thing
I
would
hate,
is
just
a
broader
landside
issue,
understand
and
appreciate
the
support
and
focus
on
terminal
side.
K
But
what
happens
in
my
observation
over
time
is
landsight
always
gets
forgotten,
and
we
have
you
probably
saw
when
you
walked
in
today.
We're
we're
booked
right
and
there's
a
lot
of
challenges
with
landsites.
So
how
could
we,
in
our
master
plan,
anticipate
all
the
Technologies
and
approaches
to
mobility
and
sustainability
that
might
separate
people
from
their
Bank
Center?
My
allow
you
to
go
through
a
TSA
experience
off-site
and
now
I
go
directly
to
a
post
security
and.
J
A
H
A
A
H
H
A
L
A
A
A
J
G
D
L
L
Makes
a
good
point
that
you
know
lots
of
things
have
changed
since
this
thing
was
first
design,
however,
is
evidenced
by
the
success
of
modernism
the
last
two
weeks.
It
still
is
a
huge
factor
for
us
to
do
differentiator,
so
you
know
we
made
it
clear
that
it
wasn't
part
of
the
deal.
I
understand
why
but
I
think
it's
important
to
the
community
and
so
somehow
between
against
their
folks
and
everything
else.
L
L
I
agree
with
David
in
the
car
rental
piece
for
those
of
you
who
are
new
Commissioners.
There
was
a
study
done
where
we
asked
the
car
rental
folks
and
everybody
else
with
the
requirements
were
and
as
I
recall,
the
feedback
of
this
2019
was
well
to
S.
It's
had
to
find
everybody
to
request.
We
would
need
a
six
stories
open
right
and
that
just
wasn't
going
to
happen
so
raise
the
issue
of
for
convenience.
L
Of
you
car
rental
folks,
you
know
the
idea
of
admin
someplace
off-site
or
on
the
other
side
of
the
airport.
Now
it's
a
hassle
but
the
concept
even
even
looking
at
the
shuttle
buses
from
the
Spring
Hope
parking
lot,
it's
a
nightmare
and
it
may
be
our
only
thing
short
of
putting
in
the
tram
in
front
of
Indio
and
have
it
going
through
the.
L
L
L
B
My
number
one
buyer
is
being
from
the
hospitality
business.
International
traveler
I
mean
Customs.
Immigration
should
be
a
very
high
priority
because
keep
in
mind,
tourism
is
the
number
one
most
dominant
industry,
and
that
should
be
our
purpose.
We
call
from
Sprint
international
airport
and
guess
what
we
have
neither
customers
nor
immigration
facilities.
L
Sorry
can
I
just
say
one
more
thing
on
an
international
I
think
the
elephant,
that's
not
in
the
room
is
The.
Lax
is
the
largest
departure
airport
for
international
travel
in
the
region
and,
ironically,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
we're
cut
off
from
LAX
here
at
this
airport
and
I
know,
that's
broadly
for
the
responsibility
of
our
tourism
institutions
and
all
of
that,
but
I.
Just
wonder
whether
there's
a
creative
solution
of
some
sort
for
bridging
that
very
wide
divide
between
Los
Angeles,
where
International
Travelers.
F
L
But
my
biggest
concern
is
on
this
International
piece
and
bringing
International
visitors
from
LAX
to
Palm,
Springs
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
partnership
with
private
Aviation
that
we
can
do
if
the
airlines
are
not
interested
in
that
route
or
what
it
is,
we
can
do
to
make
that
route
more
attractive.
But
to
me
over
the
course
of
time
we
have
never
dealt
with
why
this
airport
has
this
huge
Chasm
between
us
here
and
the
largest
gateway
to
the
world,
which
is
about
98
miles
from
here.