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From YouTube: Airport Commission | Feb 16 2022
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City of Palm Springs: Palm Springs International Airport Commission meeting, held February 16th, 2022
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Second,
all
in
favor
hi
great
great
great
introductions
and
presentations.
I
will
take
the
first
step
here.
I
want
to
welcome
kevin
weissman
to
our
commission.
Kevin
joined
the
last
month
and
he's
representing
the
city
of
palm
desert
kevin
welcome
and
if
you
would
take
a
couple
minutes
and
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself.
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In
at
the
end,
if
we
need
to
okay,
if
we
christine,
if
we
see
him
joining,
just
give
me
a
heads
up
and
we'll
go
back
to
that
point,
let's
move
on
okay!
Thank
you.
Let's
move
on
to
the
discussion
action
items,
you
recall
from
the
last
meeting
we
had
a
long
discussion
about
the
air
service
incentive
program
and
someone
made
the
comment
and
you're
absolutely
right.
We
were.
We
were
supposed
to
vote
and
support
to
vote
on
this
in
support
so
harry.
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That
was
the
precedent,
scott
and
how
it
was
done.
Last
time
we
saw
this,
but
it's
an
interesting
idea.
I
think
we
should
take
the
marketing
committee,
but
for
purposes
of
this-
and
I
know
in
the
timing
with
the
city
council,
we
may
not
want
to
add
that
step
at
this
point,
because
we've
all
seen
the
proposal
had
the
debate
last
time
but
for
futures.
I
think
it's
a
very
good
question
to
to
take
or
to
make
okay.
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Extra
well
right
now,
the
way
it's
written
is
landing
fee
waivers
would
be
in
effect.
On
march
1st,
however,
we're
not
making
city
council
for
february,
so
they
can
be
retroactive,
I
suppose,
but
anyhow
fee
waivers
are
available
march.
1St
marketing
funds
are
available
july
1st
to
be
to
be
timed
with
the
start
of
our
new
fiscal
year
budget.
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If
an
airline
comes
to
us
between
now
and
down
and
wants
to
take
advantage
of
this
in
a
program,
we
could
review
the
budget
and
see
if
we
have
funds
available,
but
that's,
but
officially,
with
the
program.
No
marketing
funds
are
available
until
july
1
to
coincide
with
the
beginning
of
the
new
fiscal
year.
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Firstly,
let
me
apologize
for
running
a
few
minutes
behind
I've
been
pretty
much
back
to
back
all
day
and
didn't
intend
to
be
late
but
happy
to
join
you.
This
evening
I
haven't
talked
to
you,
I
think
in
at
least
the
last
meeting.
I
had
a
conflict
so
by
all
means.
If
you
have
some
questions,
I
can
tailor
comments
that
way,
but
by
way
of
brief
update,
you
know
we
continue
to
see
very
low
impact
at
the
access
center.
That
may
even
be
somewhat
old
news.
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At
this
point
last
I
checked
they
had
seen
over
500
unduplicated
individuals
with
no
significant
secondary
impact.
You
likely
also
know
that
the
city
is
moving
forward
on
design
of
a
navigation
center.
That's
a
much
more
comprehensive
service
that
will
have
substantial
transitional
housing
on
site
that
will
be
located
in
another
area
of
town.
It
will
probably
take,
I
think,
12
to
24
months,
to
really
build.
It
is
in
part
a
retrofit
and
intends
to
potentially
utilize
some
modular
construction
to
try
to
expedite
the
timeline,
and
I
know
one
of
our
requests
for
assistance.
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Grant
assistance
to
the
state
contemplates
a
12-month
build,
which
is
very
aggressive,
I
think,
would
be
hard
to
to
meet,
but
the
bottom
line
is.
We
are
on
a
very
fast
track
to
developing
that
property
and
those
services
we've
already
selected
a
service
provider
and
that's
martha's
who's
also
running
the
access
center.
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So
in
all
likelihood
in
fact,
I
can't
really
envision
a
scenario
where
it
wouldn't
happen
that
once
we
open
up
that
full-blown
navigation
center,
that
we
would
also
move
out
of
the
old
boxing
club.
So
that
looks
to
be
you
know
the
temporary
situation
we
envisioned
at
the
beginning
and
sometime
in
the
next
12
to
24
months,
as
we
wrap
things
up
with
that
new
facility
will
likely
transition
the
staff
and
the
resources
over
there.
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One
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
some
of
those
visioning
sessions
was
the
desire
to
start
having
monthly
study
sessions
on
some
of
the
larger
items,
so
that
is
one
of
those
first
scheduled
study
sessions
and
our
intent
to
kind
of
keep
the
focus
on
some
of
our
strategic
priorities
is
that
those
would
be
somewhat
recurring
every
few
months.
So
so
what
that
meeting
will
do
is
two
things.
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The
other
component
is,
we
will
revisit
our
process
improvement,
which
was
always
meant
to
be
the
second
major
piece
of
our
visioning
sessions.
So
we're
going
to
look
at
roles
and
responsibilities
across
the
spectrum
of
role
players.
So
that's
residents,
stakeholder
groups,
external
partners,
boards
and
commissions
staff
and
city
council
and
we'll
you
know,
I've
outlined
a
staff
report
for
those
that
have
looked
at
it
from
the
last
time
that
this
was
agendized
or
or
the
same
staff
reports
available.
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So
one
of
the
things
we've
heard
from
a
variety
of
commissions
as
an
example,
is
that
they
haven't
always
been
closely
connected
to
the
strategic
priorities
of
council,
or
maybe
maybe
even
more
generally
haven't
heard
from
council
or
there
haven't
been
opportunities
to
you
know,
confer
etc.
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
we'll
be
talking
about.
At
that
meeting,
we
will
likely
also
review
boards
and
commissions.
It's
even
interesting
that
we
call
a
couple
of
them
boards
and
and
most
of
them
commissions.
D
We
had
a
similar
meeting
with
staff
that
work
with
commissions
to
say
how.
How
are
things
working
and
look
to
see
where
we
can?
You
know,
introduce
some
new
processes
for
sure.
I
think
that
will
include
some
of
the
basic
things
like,
rather
than
just
having
an
ordinance
and
sometimes
bylaws
that
we
would
create
things
like
a
handbook
so
that
new
commission
members
were,
you
know
on
boarded
more.
You
know
in
a
more
robust
fashion
than
what
we've
historically
done.
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We
want
to
make
sure
we
maintain
the
cycle
of
establishing
priorities
that
we
set
out
this
year,
where
the
commission
first
gets
to
say
to
council
here's
what
we
think
we
should
be
working
on,
but
then
the
council
plays
a
role
in
saying,
given
everything
we've
heard
from
all
the
commissions:
here's
our
final
priorities
and
and
kind
of
keeping
that
connection
going.
So
it's
going
to
entail
a
lot
of
those
component
pieces.
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I
expect
to
get
broad
level
direction
from
council
tuesday,
and
some
of
that
work
has
really
already
started,
including
when
we
submitted
and
solicited
feedback
to
to
the
commission
when
we
started
the
process
with
council
to
ask
you
not
only
what
your
high
priorities
are,
but
you
know
what
kinds
of
things
we
might
look
at
in
terms
of
process
improvement.
So
so
we'll
continue
that
over
the
next
you
know
couple
few
months,
I
think
some
of
the
things
that
impact
our
pace,
or
even
you
know
internally
we
had
a
recent
resignation.
D
Our
city
clerk
is
going
to
be
joining
the
city
of
palm
desert.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
plum,
desert
representatives
or
residents
here,
but
our
our
loss
is
your
gain
there,
but
but
anyway,
I
think
that's
that's
really
the
the
big
things
related
to
the
airport,
I'm
in
the
airport.
Commission,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
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That's
a
good
question.
I
I
think
initially
that
some
of
that
input
was
provided
when
we
solicited
your
input
on
what's
working,
what's
not
working
and
kind
of
what
the
priorities
are.
I
would
certainly
encourage
anyone
that
wants
to
review
the
meeting
to
hear
what
council
is
thinking
and
based
on
that
direction.
D
We'll
set
out
to
do
some
of
the
reviews.
Some
of
it
is
really
probably
independent
of
you
know,
talking
with
commissions,
so,
for
instance,
we're
just
going
to
make
notes
on
the
composition
of
each
some
are
large.
Some
are
small,
you
know,
etc
again,
most
of
the
enabling
ordinances
focus
on
kind
of
advisory
language,
but
some
really
have
very
more
authoritative
language.
You
know
that
may
be
intentional.
We
may
want
to
keep
that,
but
we
may
revisit
it
some
of
the
specifics
about
how
the
commission
inputs
probably
depends
on
what
comes
from
that
analysis
right.
D
They
were
doing
a
lot
of
things
that
aren't
contemplated
in
the
ordinance
and
they're
going
to
propose
new
language
for
for
the
ordinance,
a
rewrite,
if
you
will
so
that's
how
they're
going
to
be
providing
input
to
the
process,
but
that's
probably
a
little
bit
because
of
their
unique
circumstance.
So,
as
we
start
to
kind
of
conduct
that
analysis,
I
think
we'll
check
in
and
see,
you
know
what
else
we
might
need
to
do
to
to
have
a
broader
conversation.
H
I
think
from
my
perspective
and
I
don't
speak
for
staff,
and
I
don't
speak
for
the
commission.
I'm
just
one
member
is
that
it's
work.
It
has
not
negatively
affected
the
airport
or
airport
operations.
As
far
as
I
can
tell
so.
I
want
to
give
a
big
salute
to
the
staff.
That's
been
working
on
this
and
all
the
trouble
that
was
taken
to
really
make
this
work
in
the
in
the
short
term
that
it's
going
to
be
there.
H
D
I
will
note
that
it's
a
group
effort,
including
the
input
that
we
got
from
the
commission,
that
helped
us
kind
of
tune
in
to
what
could
be
potential
problems.
Certainly
the
council
made
an
expanded
investment
in
the
partnership.
The
new
provider
martha's
is
really
probably
primarily
responsible
because
they're
the
ones
interfacing
with
that
group
of
unhoused
individuals
every
day
and
then
at
the
staff
level.
We
really
also
tried
to
augment
what
they
couldn't
do
to
make
it
successful.
So
it
took
a
little
bit
of
everybody
but
happy
to
hear
it.
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D
So
I
I
do
think,
there's
a
place
for
the
commission
to
meet
on
its
own
and
say,
let's
refine
our
thinking
about
where
we
should
be
going,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
also
makes
it
back
to
council
one
of
the
dynamics
that
we
experience
number
one
in
palm
springs.
We
try
to
do
a
lot.
At
the
same
time
I
mean
just.
D
I
can
tell
you
an
awful
lot
as
I
put
these
work
plans
together
in
the
next
four
months,
we're
going
to
try
to
move
the
ball
on
homelessness
and
reparations
and
climate
change
and
college
of
the
desert
and
bogart,
and
I
mean
it's
just
it's
just
everywhere,
and
part
of
that
is
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
these.
We
have
commissions
and
stakeholders
that
are
really
engaged
and
that
have
depth
of
insight
right.
D
I
may
have
talked
about
this
before,
but
the
air
commit
the
airport
commission's
immersed
in
the
airport
and-
and
you
all
are
and
should
be
asking
the
question:
what
else
can
we
do
at
the
airport?
The
council,
on
the
other
hand,
has
breadth
of
insight
and
is
trying
to
figure
out
between
the
airport,
between
homelessness,
between
efforts
to
reduce
crime
or
improve
infrastructure.
What
should
we
be
doing
so
to
to
kind
of
limit
the
friction
that
occurs
when
a
commission
might
be
going
one
way
and
a
council
is
going
that
another?
D
Yes,
we
want
to
do
this,
but
no
we
don't
want
to
do
that
or
please.
Let's
only
do
this
on
certain
conditions
or
based
on
a
certain
schedule.
So
so
that's
what
I
would
envision,
I
think
timing-wise.
It
would
make
sense
for
us
to
complete
that
process
with
council
and
I
think
it
would
be
advantageous
that
we
brought
on
a
new
director.
I
should
have
mentioned.
We
are
getting
close
to
establishing
the
final
process,
I'm
working
with
the
chair.
A
A
The
staff
work
that's
happening,
and
so,
when
things
pop
up
and
harry
or
someone
else
says
well,
you
know
the
staff
is
working
on
this,
but
the
commission
is
out
of
the
loop,
that's
creating
the
gap
and
perhaps
some
of
the
dissonance
you're,
seeing
just
new
people
who
don't
know
or
even
experienced
commissioners
who
are
not
really
sure
what
what
the
staff
is
working
on.
So
our
intent
in
asking
for
this
off
site
is
just
to
make
sure
we
get
smarter.
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So
everybody
understands
what
we're
doing
and
I
think
we
can
be
more
supportive
in
whatever
context
comes
out
of
this
process,
where
you're
going
to
give.
You
know
more
definition
to
swim
lanes
around
how
commissions
are
supposed
to
behave
and
how
they're
supposed
to
support
city,
council
thinking
and
decision
making.
So
just
we
may
or
may
we
may
be
different
than
some
other
commissions,
but
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
today
and
our
intent
is
to
try
to
just
get
smarter
and
make
sure
we're
aligned
with
staff.
D
It
makes
sense-
and
I
think
that's
the
same
goal
that
we
have
and
the
same
challenge
that
we
all
have
one
of
the
ways
that
I'll
phrase
it
to
council-
and
I
probably
phrased
it
with
you
and
other
commissions-
is
what
makes
the
process
the
local
government
level
so
unique
is
how
participatory
it
is
right.
So
we
have
all
those
role
players
I
mentioned,
and
more
residents,
stakeholder
and
affinity,
groups,
boards
and
commissions
external
partners,
sometimes
with
jurisdiction,
like
the
faa
staff
council
council
also
has
sometimes
subcommittees,
or
they
have
individual
relationships
like
they.
D
You
know
serving
districts
plus
council,
as
a
body
commissions,
also
have
subcommittees
there.
There
isn't
another
model
quite
like
that,
and
and
for
that
reason
I
think
of
it
almost
like
an
orchestra
right,
a
lot
of
instruments.
We
have
to
be
on
that
same
sheet
of
music.
The
timing
has
to
be
exact
right,
the
transitions
have
to
be
right
or
we
do
get
in
each
other's
way
and
and
we're
always
asking
what
part
of
this
is
for
staff
without
counsel,
without
the
commission
without
the
resident.
What
part
is
the
commission
without
staff
without
counsel?
D
You
know
what
I
mean
and
then
what
are
the
parts
that
can
only
be
done
in
conjunction
or
with
a
handoff?
So
it's
all
really
the
same
problem
and
I
think
the
same
solution
so
and
that's
why
I
say
I
kind
of
recommend
I
do
emphasize
counsel
because
they
set
the
pace:
they're
they're,
the
only
ones
elected
by
the
people,
and
we
all
serve
at
their
pleasure.
So
I
also
think
staff
and
our
prioritization
and
reorganization
kind
of
waits
and
defers
for
them
to
set
the
pace.
D
But
I
don't
know
that
it's
that
critical,
that
it's
an
exact,
perfect
sequence
as
long
as
we're
all
very
kind
of
aware
that
that's
the
challenge
and
that
working
it
out
is
also
like
an
orchestra
where
sometimes
someone
has
to
say
this.
Is
your
role
you're
coming
in
a
second
too
soon.
We
need
you
to
wait
or
or
something
like
that
and
that
that's
not
personal.
It's
to
coordinate
this
more
complicated
apparatus,
unlike
our
normal
decision
making
in
most
business
and
even
most
non-profit
worlds.
D
So
so
that
is
to
say,
if
you
guys
end
up
meeting
earlier
with
that
mindset
and
with
the
flexibility
that
if
one
of
the
things
you
wanted
to
do
or
pursue
some
of
whatever
impact
comes
from
a
new
director
or
a
council
that
we
can
pivot
or
we
can
kind
of
adjust
and
accommodate
one
another.
You
know
that
then
I
think
that
that
works.
Okay,
I
would
probably
still
recommend
the
wait,
but
you
know
I
I
wouldn't
get
pushy
with
anything
like
that.
If
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
I
think.
B
A
F
D
C
D
H
Questions
well
not
necessarily.
I
just
want
to
comment
on
your
last
thing.
I
agree
with
you
in
some
way
that
a
new
director
was
going
to
be
very
helpful
in
pushing
some
of
the
issues
that
I
think
our
city
manager
is
talking
about
what
the
council
wants.
On
the
other
hand,
though,
I
think
there
are
issues
that
the
commission
has
to
make
a
decision
in
and
of
themselves
that's
irrespective
of
who
the
new
director
is.
H
You
know
what
is
the
actual
role
of
the
commission
and
what
would
the
commission
like
to
be
its
role?
You
know
what
is
the,
how
does
the
commission
operate
and
what
would
the
commission?
How
would
commission
like
to
operate?
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
some
of
us
who
are
new
and
I'm
one
of
the
new
ones.
H
So
you
know
so
maybe
I
pushed
the
envelope
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
think
those
questions
need
to
be
discussed,
and
I
know
these
types
of
meetings
are
very
difficult
because
we
have
such
a
large
commission
and
zoom
meetings
are
just
not
good
for
conversations
like
this
and
I'm
hoping
at
some
point.
The
council
will
allow
face-to-face
meetings,
but
I
think
a
retreat
is
needed,
and
maybe
it's
two
retreats.
Maybe
it's
one
retreat
with
commissioners
saying
what
do
we
want
to
do
as
the
commission?
H
How
do
we
want
to
operate
as
a
commission?
How
do
we
you
know?
What
do
we
view
ourselves
as
the
commission?
How
can
we
help
council?
How
can
we
help
staff
as
a
commission,
then
I
think
once
we
have
a
feeling
of
where
the
majority
of
the
commissioners
want
to
go,
then
I
think
the
new
director
can
come
in
and
say:
okay.
This
is
how
staff
sees
the
commission.
H
This
is,
and
council
may
even
say
this
is
how
the
council
sees
the
commission
or
something
of
that
nature,
and
so
you
know
the
commission
has
kind
of
a
mind
of
where
it
wants
to
go
in
a
direction,
because
I
don't
really
have
a
feeling
as
a
new
commissioner
that
that's
what
we
have-
and
you
know
I
mean
our
or-
and
I've
read
every
ordinance.
We've
done.
I've
heard
the
old
ordinances
that
we've
have
I've
read
every
single
thing
and
you
know
it's
all
very
general,
but
they're
always
very
general.
H
I
mean
that's
the
purpose
of
a
good
city
attorney,
and
so,
but
I
just
think
that
the
heart
of
the
commission,
I
think
we
need
to
discuss
that
within
ourselves
and-
and
I
know
that
some
of
the
commissioners
have
been
here
quite
a
long
time
and
maybe
have
that
feeling,
but
as
a
new
commissioner,
I
don't
have
that
feeling
and
we
haven't
had
a.
We
have
not
had
a
vehicle
to
be
able
to
discuss
those
feelings
and
I
don't
mind
doing
it
in
public
session.
H
A
Just
justin,
that's
the
work
that
you're
doing
right.
Your
your
work
right
now
is
to
try
to
define
those
swim
lanes
not
only
for
the
airport
commission
but
for
all
commissions
and
give
us
more
direction
around.
What's
it
what's,
the
appropriate
way
to
be
helpful
in
this
process
is
that
what
you're
working
on.
D
D
Sometimes
we
want
to
be
fully
transparent
with
council
about
what
we
see
and
where
we
think
we
need
to
go,
but
we
also
want
to
kind
of
leave
some
space
for
the
council
to
say
this
is
what
we
need
from
you,
and-
and
this
is
where
we
think
your
those
swim
lanes
are
for
for
youtube
staff
and,
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
process,
we're
following
is
kind
of
keeping
them
and
they're.
I
don't
want
to
say
first
attempt
at
this,
but
I
think
it's
it's
different.
D
The
way
we're
proposing
it
than
it's
been
done
before
to
let
them
set
the
pace
and
lead
some
of
that,
because
really
everything
flows
from
them.
These
commissions
are
created
by
council
right
that
the
staff
and
the
organization
is
created
by
council,
serves
at
its
pleasure
and
and
letting
them
kind
of
set
some
of
that
pace
again.
Nothing
wrong
with
having
organized
thoughts
and
things
like
that.
D
But
but
I
don't
want
to
say
the
the
most
important
thoughts
in
the
room
are
the
councils,
but
but
in
some
ways
that
that
really
is
our
system
and
and
so
getting
their
insight
first
and
responding
to
that
and
filling
in
gaps
and
then
maybe
countering
with
an
idea
is
how
we're
approaching
it
at
the
staff
level.
All
of
our
things
in
in
planning
are
flowing
from
what
they
tell
us
is
the
highest
level
priorities
and
what
they
want
to
see
from
us.
D
A
C
Yes,
it's
basically,
everyone
should
have
received
in
their
pack
at
the
presentation
by
tracy
sheldon,
and
it's
basically
covered
two
of
the
main
points
that
are
going
on
right
now.
One
is
the
demonstration
garden
if
any
of
you've
been
recently
to
the
airport,
you'll
see
the
construction
between
the
fountain
and
the
front
entrance.
That's
tentatively
scheduled
to
be
done
by
the
end
of
february.
C
When
you
go
there,
it
it's
hard
to
believe
it'll
actually
be
done
by
then,
but
that
was
the
objective
to
get
the
plants
in
and
going
before.
The
extreme
heat
sets
in.
So
that
was
the
one
thing
and
then
also
they
we
have
a
five
year
plan.
We've
discussed
it
previously,
with
patrick
talarigo
from
the
sustainability
office,
he's
no
longer
there,
but
they've
now
received
an
update
from
the
state
drought
emergency
declaration.
C
As
of
january
4th
that
they'd
like
to
advance
some
of
the
objectives
of
our
five-year
program
into
a
much
closer
sooner
calendar.
That's
basically
like
the
entryway
by
gene
autry.
You
look
at
the
diagrams
and
the
photos
in
there.
They've
had
some
preliminary
landscaping
ideas,
that's
something
that
has
to
be
further
refined
and
also
they're,
considering
what
to
do
as
far
as
budgeting
to
pay
to
move
up
that
timeline
for
for
the
turf
conversion.
A
G
Thank
you
vice
chairman
corporate,
I
just
have
a
few
things
for
the
commission.
The
first
I
committed
to
briefing
on
voice
complaints
to
the
airport
on
a
regular
basis,
and
so
just
to
let
you
know.
In
the
month
of
january,
we
had
six
complaints
in
total
two
were
general
aviation.
It
looks
like
one
was
an
engine
runoff
one,
a
low-flying
aircraft,
one
a
military
aircraft
and
then
one
a
helicopter
which
was
flying
in
india.
Apparently,
so
that's
not
too
different
from
what
we
normally
see.
G
What
that
essentially
means
right
now
under
a
residual
agreement
with
the
airport,
the
airlines
cover
the
entire
cost
of
operating
the
airport
and
they
get
credited
for
that
amount.
Under
a
hybrid
methodology,
there
would
be
a
revenue
sharing
component
where
the
airlines
would
receive
60
of
the
revenue.
The
non-aeronautical
revenues
so
anything
from
parking
to
rental
car
rentals
to
additional
leases,
and
then
we
would
get
40
of
those
revenues.
G
So
they
use
a
biometric
mechanism,
usually
your
eyes
or
your
finger,
your
fingerprints
to
get
you
through
the
biometric
vetting
process
and
then,
if
you
have
tsa
precheck
or
whether
you're
a
standard
customer,
you
then
essentially
skip
ahead
to
the
front
of
the
line
you
get
screened
through
the
tsa
stream
area.
We've
been
in
discussions
with
clear
for
about
two
months
and
we've
actually
sent
this
to
the
operations
committee
just
to
kind
of
get
this
a
little
bit
we're
still
working
with
how
that's
going
to
be
set
up
in
terms
of
queuing.
G
We
have
some
healing
challenges
just
based
on
the
design
of
the
building
and
what
the
tsa
can
accommodate
what
they
can
process
in
a
given
in
a
given
hour.
However,
we
are
moving
forward
with
trying
to
test
that
to
see
if
that
will
work
here
in
palm
springs.
We
do
believe
there
is
a
market
for
that.
If
you
ask
anyone
of
our
operation
staff
they'll
tell
you
they
get
that
question
three
or
four
times
a
day.
G
So
we
are
moving
from
a
poor
transaction
rate
of
450
to
a
per
day
rate
of
nine
dollars
a
day,
foreign
that's
up
to
a
period
of
five
days,
which
is
the
maximum
that
state
law
allows
customers
facility,
charge
fees
again,
just
to
remind
you,
those
go
toward
helping
to
build
new
one
apart
facilities,
as
well
as
the
conveyances,
whether
it
be
a
busing
operation
or
elevator
operation
transport
operation.
To
get
to
that
new
rental
car
facility.
We
did
get
approval
to
move
in
that
direction.
G
We
have
notified
the
loan
car
companies
that
we
will
be
increasing
those
rates
effective
march
first
and
hopefully
that
will
help
us
continue
in
the
process
of
designing
a
royal
car
facility
and
addressing
our
capacity
issues
out
to
your
2040..
So
those
are
my
updates.
Are
there
any
questions
about
any
of.
G
B
G
G
G
G
A
Two
questions
not
specifically
on
this
topic,
but
in
our
in
our
earlier
last
meeting
there
was
a
discussion
around
the
timing,
the
time
it
takes
to
secure
bags
and
baggage
claim.
There's
also
some
comments
made
around
the
amount
of
parking
available
and
is
the
parking
lot
getting
full
and
are
we
finding
a
lot
of
spillover
and
there
been
issues
there?
G
So
I
can
address
the
second
issue
very
easily.
The
first
issue
is
a
little
more
complicated.
I
think
I
mentioned
the
last
meeting
that
a
lot
of
the
baggage
return
that
goes
through
our
ground
handlers
here
at
the
airport,
so
depending
on
who
an
airline
is
contracted
with,
they
may
have
different
services.
G
G
We
have
not,
frankly
tracked
anything
over
20
minutes,
but
obviously
20
minutes
is
a
long
time.
You
know
the
weight
for
a
battery
turn,
so
we're
still
working
with
carriers,
we're
still
working
with
the
ground
handlers
to
figure
out
if
there's
a
system
to
coordinate
that
effort,
especially
during
our
peak
periods.
When
we
have
a
lot
of
inbound
flights,
I
don't
have
any
good
answers
for
that
beyond
some,
you
know
improvements,
physical
improvements
to
the
building
right
now,
but
we're
still
looking
at
that
in
terms
of
the
parking
situation
over
the
holidays.
G
We
ran
into
some
challenges,
particularly
over
thanksgiving.
We
ran
into
some
challenges
with
running
out
of
parking.
I
did
have
our
operations
manager
pull
some
numbers
for
today
for
the
month
of
january.
It
appears
we're
hovering
right.
Around
50
capacity
with
our
main
lots
and
partners
are
there
opportunities
to
expand
in
the
future.
G
I
do
believe
we'll
get
to
a
place
very
quickly
over
the
next
couple
of
years
where
we
will
need
to
look
for
adding
capacity
in
terms
of
parking
and
looking
at
strategies,
whether
those
strategies
be
you
know,
creating
a
premium
parking
or
economy
lot,
off-site
parking,
potentially
contracting
with
members
from
that,
and
then
obviously
planning
but
planning
is
a
much
longer
process.
So
that's
something
we
are
looking
into,
but
we
are
tracking
right
now
we
seem
to
be
okay,
that's
not
to
say
that
next
month
be
the
same
situation.
H
No,
I
was
just
gonna
ask
on
the
on
some
of
these
issues.
Would
it
be
better
to
have
because
this
is
like
a
large
forum
to
have
a
lot
of
these
questions,
asked
and
answered
by
the
airport
operations
committee
and
instead
of
you
know,
seven,
eight
or
nine
of
us
asking
all
these
questions
that
it
goes
to
that
committee
and
then
comes
back
to
the
commission
and
and
can
give
feedback
to
staff
on.
You
know
what
they
think
and
what
the
issues
are
and
things
of
that
nature.
G
A
G
A
I
I
At
the
request
of
the
commission,
the
financials
have
been
modified
to
depict
the
airport's
financial
position.
So
please,
let
me
know
what
you
think
about
it
all
right.
The
customer
facility
fund
tracks
revenues
related
to
the
car
rental
surcharge
and
related
planning
consolidated
rental
car
expenses.
I
I
The
passenger
facility
fund
tracks
revenues
related
to
the
passenger
facility
surcharge
and
debt
service
principal
and
interest
expenses.
The
customer
facility
charge
fund
410
has
a
net
balance
of
about
2.3
million.
This
is
a
1400
percent
increase
when
compared
to
prior
fiscal
year.
The
debt
service,
principal
and
interest,
and
the
amount
of
about
2.5
million,
has
not
been
applied
to
this
account,
but
the
airport
is
on
track
to
fund
this
expense
fund,
415
tracks,
all
the
revenues
and
expenditures
for
operating
and
maintaining
the
airport.
I
I
I
I
I
I
Year
to
date,
the
airport
has
about
a
10
million,
has
about
10
million
dollars
of
expenditures
towards
capital
projects
which
include
the
passenger
boarding,
bridges,
the
ticket
wing
renovation
and
the
special
capital
projects.
This
amount
changes
year
over
year,
depending
on
the
approved
airport
projects
slide.
Eight
is
an
overview
of
the
cash.
The
airport
has
on
hand
for
the
four
different
funds
for
comparison
purposes.
I
I
C
G
That
is
not
accurate
for
care,
so
each
can
you
characterize
that
please?
Thank
you
absolutely.
So
each
grant
came
with
a
different
set
of
stipulations.
I
think
cares
was
the
least
restrictive,
so
we
could
use
that
for
most
things,
but
capital
projects
had
to
be
specifically
approved
by
the
faa.
To
use
the
cares.
Grant
the
other
two
brands,
the
arpa
and
crystal
grants
were
more
restricted.
G
You
could
only
use
those
for
certain
things,
so
you
could
use
those
for
facility
hygiene
projects
to
replace
equipment
for
cleaning
throughout
the
facility
upgrading
systems
that
would
help
the
facility
operate
more
efficiently,
etc,
but
they
were
very
restrictive
and
prescribed
in
how
we
could
use
those
sets
of
those
pots
of
money
and
then
the
infrastructure
grant.
We
still
don't
have
rules
from
the
faa
and
how
those
can
be
employed.
Yet
we're
expecting
maybe
another,
two
or
three
months
before
we
can
get
rules
on
how
we
can
use
those
funds.
C
G
B
C
It
there
with
the
expiration
date
with
the
asterisk,
can
we
get
a
breakdown
of
that
of
what
funds
are
available
to
be
spent
now
and
what
our
plans
are
for
them,
because
we've
been
now
sitting
with
that
amount
sort
of
being
presented
to
the
commission,
for
I
don't
know
close
to
a
year,
and
I
think
it's
it's
an
appropriate
discussion
of
what
we're
going
to
do
with
those
funds
or,
if
we're
going
to
turn
them
back
on
spent.
Yes,
here
we're
turning
them
back
unspent,
not
having
any
commission
discussion
about
it.
G
Absolutely
we
can
certainly
get
your
breakdown
of
that
so
one
of
the
things.
Well,
there
were
two
things
we
were
doing
for
the
last
year
and
a
half.
The
first
was
we
were
concerned
about
where
it
was
going,
so
we
were
really
kind
of
holding
those
funds
in
the
reserve
unless
we
absolutely
need
it,
because
we
didn't
know
if
the
government
would.
You
know
essentially
a
lot
more
crunches
of
money
for
us
to
be
able
to
use
further
down
the
line.
G
The
second
thing
we
were
trying
to
do
when
we
actually
got
an
answer
on
this
just
last
week
was
get
a
legal
interpretation
of
how
we
could
use
those
funds
relative
to
our
residual
agreement.
The
agreement
I
talked
about
a
little
bit
earlier
with
the
airlines.
We
just
received
that
answer.
Last
week
it
looks
like
we
have
a
little
more
flexibility
than
we
thought
we
would
have
in
the
use
of
those
funds,
and
so
with
that
information
our
staff
internally
intends
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
planning.
C
Okay,
my
other
item
is,
I
very
much
appreciate
the
progress
being
made
on
the
reporting,
but
I
also
do
want
to
say
that
there
are
other
members
of
the
commission
and
and
the
budget
committee
who
have
specific
ideas
and
requests,
and
I
don't
think
it's
or
I
just
I
say
I
think
I
think
it's
appropriate-
that
it
not
be
first
in
first
out
so
whoever
gets
to
victoria
first
gets
the
changes,
and
then
you
know
if
you
haven't
gotten
raced
to
to
to
there
to
that
destination.
First,
you
know
it's
like.
C
Oh
sorry,
we
did
this
already.
We,
I
think,
as
a
commission
should
have
a
structured
process.
Change
is
great,
I'm
all
for
change.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
legacy
items
from
prior
executive
directors
who
wanted
things
done
a
certain
way
and
there's
plenty
of
opportunity
for
change,
but
it
can't
be
like
sorry
we
did
this
already,
and
it's
done.
G
H
Want
to
share
that
what
david
said
that
I
you
know
I
look
forward.
I'm
glad
I
see
some
progress
in
the
financial
reports
and
I
think
it's
great
so
thank
you,
victoria
and
harry
for
you
know
moving
forward,
and
I
agree
with
him
that
there
are
other
tweaks
we'd
like
to
see,
and
I
think
that's
wonderful.
H
One
question
I
did
have
for
victoria
was
that
okay,
we're
we're
in
february
so
we're
about
two
thirds
of
the
way
through
the
fiscal
year.
And
what
do
you
see
or
harry
could
answer
to?
What
do
you
see?
Are
we
going
to
meet
the
goals
of
the
fiscal
year
21
22
budget?
Are
we
going
to
be
under?
Are
we
going
to
be
over?
I
G
G
To
help
kind
of
form
that
question
a
little
more
what
we
tried
to
do
this
year
and
what
we
did
frankly
last
year
was
trying
to
keep
costs
neutral
and
be
very
conservative
in
our
spending.
So
we
our
hope,
was
to
come
in
under
budget
for
this
year.
We
think
we'll
come
in
under
budget
or
near
budget,
but
what
we
didn't
anticipate
was
a
substantial
increase
in
passenger
traffic
for
the
last
six
months
of
the
year,
and
so
that
was
a
surprise
to
us.
A
happy
surprise.
H
G
I
wouldn't
say
that
we
have
a
lot
of
excess
revenue
to
use,
but
we
are
still
monitoring.
You
know
where
those
revenues
can
be
applied,
the
revenue
that
we
do
have
where
they
can
be
applied
to
make
things
more
efficient.
One
of
the
things
that
this
staff
is
looking
at
internally
is
obviously
with
adding
personnel.
Frankly,
we've
been
personnel
starved
for
years,
and
it's
really
becoming
a
problem
being
able
to
operate
the
airport
without
the
staff
support
to
do
it
also,
along
with
that,
is
automating
processes.
G
G
Most
of
those
positions
were
on
the
maintenance
side,
so
we've
been
struggling
with
our
maintenance
personnel
in
particular
and
staffing
shifts.
It's
been
a
challenge,
particularly
with
facilities,
update
the
cleaning
and
janitorial
aspect
of
it
making
sure
the
facility
stays
clean
in
terms
of
maintaining
the
systems
we
haven't
had
shifts
where
we've
had
to
go
without
maintenance
personnel,
put
them
in
on-call
reserve
and
then
bring
them
in.
Whenever
a
system
fails,
some
of
our
personnel
frankly
have
been
working,
13,
14
hours
a
day
or
13
or
14
days
straight.
H
G
G
The
last
administration
was
very
adverse
to
adding
staff
because
it
would
increase
costs
to
the
airlines.
So
the
idea
was
that
if
you
had
people
just
figure
out
a
way
to
get
the
job
done
with
the
people
that
you
have
as
a
result,
five
ten
years
later,
we're
now
having
to
figure
out
how
to
backfill
some
of
those
positions.
G
The
other
thing
is-
and
this
is
a
real
thing-
the
great
resignation
campus
wide,
not
just
with
airport
staff,
but
also
with
the
airlines,
concessionaires
and
companies,
we're
having
challenges
just
keeping
personnel
and
we're
having
to
shift
our
mindset
from
a
recruitment
mindset
to
a
retention
mindset.
How
do
we
retain
the
personnel
that
we
have
and
then
institutional
knowledge
to
keep
going
and
then,
frankly,
obviously
the
salaries
haven't
kept
pace
with
the
conditions
out
there?
Obviously,
inflation
is
a
thing.
G
A
Okay,
anything
else
victoria.
Thank
you
appreciate
the
improvements
more
to
come.
I
know
that
you
have
meetings
with
david's
budget
committee
coming
up
good
luck
in
all
that
process,
and
thank
you
all
for
your
help
with
this.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Let's
move
forward,
if
we
could
please
to
the
marketing
committee
daniel.
E
E
There
we
go
all
right
so,
first
off
a
couple:
air
service
updates
american
has
dropped
in
a
few
flights
per
week
into
lax
from
palm
springs.
It
put
that
on
schedule
a
couple
weeks
ago.
It's
only
scheduled
for
the
month
of
april.
It's
not
scheduled
to
be
on
that
point.
From
my
understanding,
it
is
a
repositioning
of
an
aircraft
you
need
to
get
from
palm
springs
into
lax,
instead
of
just
flying
it
as
a
ferry
flight
they're
flying
as
a
live
flight
and
putting
passengers
on
it.
E
I
believe
that's
something
to
do
with
skywest
maintenance
space.
If
I
remember
correctly,
alaska
has
extended
their
austin
schedule
to
june
3rd.
Previously,
when
they
first
announced
it
was
actually
set
to
end
in
mid-april,
but
due
to
good
performance
and
their
happiness
with
that
route,
they
have
extended
to
june
3rd.
E
So
hopefully
we
might
be
able
to
work
with
them,
especially
with
the
new
incentive
program,
and
maybe
convince
them
to
turn
that
seasonal
route
into
possibly
a
year-round
route
yesterday
swoop
and
formulas
are
going
to
take
their
edmonton
route
to
year
round,
which
is
wonderful
for
us.
They
currently
operate
that
two
times
per
week,
they're
going
to
take
it
to
one
time
per
week,
one
flight
per
week
in
the
summer
on
saturdays
that
takes
us
up
to
16
year-round
routes
on
nine
different
airlines.
E
Next
up,
I
just
saw
a
preview
of
schedule
departing
seats
for
march
through
may.
If
you
look
on
march
compared
march
of
this
year,
compared
to
march
of
2019,
we
are
down
0.9
percent,
but
if
you
guys
remember
last
commission
meeting
I'll
give
you
guys
an
update
on
january
and
february
as
well.
They
had
a
decline
originally
going
into
2022.
E
We
were
scheduled
to
be
up
and
have
a
really
good
start
to
the
year,
but
with
the
new
code
variant,
there's
a
lot
of
frequency
reductions
from
carriers
specifically
from
canada
that
caused
us
to
go
a
little
negative
compared
to
2019.
However,
we're
still
pretty
much
neck
and
neck
with
it
april's,
looking
great
14.2
percent
higher
than
april
2019
may
is
even
better
at
31.5
increase
over
may
2019.
E
going
on
forward.
If
schedules
hold,
we
should
have
a
pretty
good
summer.
What's
great
now,
those
with
having
more
airlines
and
having
16
year
round
routes
instead
of
just
10,
we
will
now
are
our
summer.
Valleys
of
our
service,
so
to
speak,
will
be
shallower
than
they
have
been
before.
So,
hopefully,
we're
trying
to
flatten
out
that
curve
and
curve
in
and
make
our
service
into
not
a
palm
springs
more
year-round
and
not
in
less
seasonal.
E
E
E
Yeah
yeah
yeah
you're
welcome
on
that
everything
I
present.
So
I
pull
that
from
a
program
that
we
have
called
dio
is
quite
from
a
company
called
sirium,
and
so
they
pull
all
the
different
schedules
from
all
the
carriers
from
around
the
world,
and
so
we
can
look
in
there.
That's
what
so
the
carriers
file
their
schedules
every
monday,
and
so
this
is
actually
the
schedules
that
the
airlines
produce.
A
A
So
just
just
provide
contact
context
before
we
jump
in,
I
think
I'm
sure
harry
has
advised
you
that
we
sent
out
the
draft
rfp.
We
asked
commissioners
to
provide
questions.
We
share
those
questions
with
you
and
I've
put
them
into
different
sections.
All
this
has
been
shared
with
the
commissioners,
so
perhaps
it'd
be
helpful
just
to
get
an
overview
present,
and
then
we
can
go
through
section
by
section.
Could
that
work.
J
Whatever
works
for
y'all
and
just
let
me
introduce
or
reintroduce
myself,
I
used
to
be
with
recondo,
and
I
was
a
concessions
consultant
to
psp
back
in
the
old
times
before
the
pandemic,
and
we
got
pretty
close
to
having
a
solicitation
back
then
so
I'm
not
new
to
the
airport.
In
fact,
I
I
did
present
at
a
meeting
that
was
attended
by
a
lot
of
airport
commissioners
about
two
years
ago.
J
J
We
are
in
the
process
right
now,
as
a
group
with
recondo
and
and
the
procurement
department
and
the
airport
department
updating
the
stuff
that
clearly
needs
updating,
such
as
air
traffic
activity,
such
as
recent
developments
at
the
airport,
data
from
the
visitors
bureau
and
a
a
sort
of
a
seismic
change
in
the
business
model
that
can
of
airport
concessionaires
as
much
as
airport
operators
and
airlines
have
suffered
during
the
pandemic.
Concessionaires
got
hit
even
harder,
and
so
their
their
business
model
has
changed
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out.
J
What's
the
what's
the
right
opportunity
to
communicate
to
them
that
that
will
get
them
interested
in
doing
business
at
your
airport,
because
some
of
them
are
pretty
over
leveraged
right
now.
So
that
was
my
little
introductory
spiel.
I
don't
know
if
victoria
or
kim
wanted
to
chime
in
on
that,
or
we
can
just
jump
into
the
questions.
B
He
rolly
did
a
good
job
in
introducing
it.
That
was
the
main
thing
I
wanted
to
make
sure
you
guys
knew.
We
gave
it
to
you
very
prematurely
just
so.
We
could
go
ahead
and
start
getting
that
feedback
or
input
and
we're
certainly
going
to
go
through
it
together
and
make
sure
we
get
a
good
product
to
put
out
on
the
streets
so
that
we
can
hopefully
attract
the
best
companies
to
come
in
and
run
the
concessions
going
forward.
A
Sounds
good
well
the
biggest
concern.
I
think
that
came
out
of
the
draft
and
we
understand
that's.
The
preliminary
draft
was
the
disconnect
between
the
2019
priorities
and
what's
in
this
draft,
and
that's
specifically
around
the
statements,
the
communication,
the
content
that
encourages
these
national
players
to
partner
with
local
brands
and
just
based
on
what
you've
said.
Raleigh.
Is
that
message
loud
and
clear?
Do
we
need
to
to
reinforce
it
anymore?
That's
really
important
to
us.
It's
an
outcome,
we're
looking
for.
J
J
J
A
Was
that
the
four
that
four
major
brands,
including
parodies
who's,
the
incumbent
right
now
partnered
through
either
direct
contact
with
local
brands
or
through
other
marketing
resources
that
help
them
reach
out
to
local
vendors?
And
they
were
all
packaging,
a
proposal
that
included
local
representation
as
part
of
their
umbrella
plan?
These
four
major
players
and
we
were
down
the
road
on
this
and
then
covet
hit
and
everything
went
sideways.
So
there
was
momentum
based
on
how
these
four
major
players
were
reaching
out.
That
we
think
would
have
achieved
what
our
goal
was.
A
Was
local
representation
at
the
at
the
airport,
so
riley,
a
question
to
you
is:
do
you
anticipate?
Are
these
four
major
players
or
other
major
players?
Are
they
based
on
where
the
world
is
today?
Do
you
anticipate
that
this
particular
opportunity
will
be
of
interest
to
those,
and
we
would
have
a
similar
type
of
reaction,
as
we
did
in
19.
J
J
A
lot
has
to
do
with
things
that
are
sort
of
outside
of
our
control,
and
I'm
not
talking
about
the
pandemic.
I'm
talking
about
what
all
the
other
airports
are
doing,
so
palm
springs
being
a
growing,
but
still
a
small
hub
of
airport
may
not
have
the
may
be
back
in
the
line
behind
some
of
the
larger
airports
that
may
be
issuing
rfps
at
the
same
time
now.
This
would
be
a
normal
concern,
however,
because
of
the
pandemic.
J
A
lot
of
other
airports
provided
some
sort
of
remedy
to
their
concessionaires
in
the
form
of
extended
term,
not
all
of
them,
but
a
lot
of
them,
and
so
all
of
those
are
going
to
come
to
2022
2023.
So
the
next
two
years
are
going
to
have
many
more
rfps
out
on
the
street
for
airport
concessions
than
would
happen
in
a
normal
year,
and
that's
because
we
had
basically
none
in
2020
and
even
2021..
J
So
it
is
my
hope
that
all
of
the
major
operators
respond
and
I
will
be
reaching
out
to
them
to
you-
know
before
issuance
to
make
them
aware
that
this
is
going
to
be
coming
to
hit
the
street.
There's
a
conference
in
orlando.
In
of
two
weeks
time.
That's
focused
on
concessions
and
then
there's
another
one.
That's
focused
on
what's
called
the
business
of
airports
and
that's
in
phoenix
in
june.
J
A
One-On-One
sounds
good,
hey
commissioners,
be
patient,
I'm
going
to
try
to
bang
through
these
questions
and
I'll
open
it
up
for
more
comments.
Let
me
just
see
if
we
can
quickly
get
through
these
big
buckets
of
questions.
Well,
you
mentioned
the
selection
criteria.
One
thing
that
was
a
surprise
to
many
of
us
was
that
brands
and
concepts.
J
Is
that
was
the
number
assigned
to
it
by
the
prior
regime?
We
have
new
airport
management,
and
you
know
the
airport
commission
has
some
new
members
and
city
council
has
some
new
members.
So
you
know
if
if,
if
the
weighting
of
the
criteria
should
change,
that
is
I
I
will
follow.
Y'all's
lead
on
that
you
know
and
and
we
can
sort
of
reword
brands
and
concepts
to
to
bring
forth.
You
know,
let's
just
mention
the
word
local
and
and
try
to
underscore
the
importance
of
that.
J
H
A
Commissioner,
payne
comes
with
an
extensive
experience
at
san
francisco
airport
and
others,
and
he
had
a
series
of
questions
that
was
listed
about
you
know.
What
did
we
want
from
this
from
a
business
perspective
and
he
included
a
lot
of
questions
around?
Is
it
revenue?
Is
it
inclusion?
Is
it
customer
experience?
A
J
Sure
so
I
think
I
think
he
is
in
a
in
a
different
sort
of
package
of
recommendations
was,
I
think,
I'm
not
to
speak
for
him,
but
I
think
he
was.
He
was
approaching
this
with
precisely
the
same
issues
in
mind,
but
in
a
different
way.
So
one
goal
perhaps
is
generating
enough
revenue
to
support
the
airport
enterprise,
and
then
that
would
be
reflected
in
the
pricing
and
financials
evaluation
criterion
as
an
example
for
customer
experience.
J
Facility
design
and
quality
of
improvements,
evaluation
criterion,
probably
sprinkles
around
all
of
them
really.
But
but
if
we
say
that
as
a
goal
that
we
want
to
have
a
a
customer
experience
befitting
a
a
you
know,
first-class
tourist
destination,
then
that's
the
goal
and
then
that's
reflected
in
the
evaluation
criteria.
So
so
I
I
would.
I
would
take
a
lot
of
what
he
said
and
say
you
know.
These
are
some
goals
that
that
will
probably
be
arrived
at
in
some
way
or
another,
and
then
they
will
be
reflected
again
on
the
criteria.
J
E
J
But
I
mean
yes,
I
think
the
integration
of
technology
is
very
important.
That's
that's
really
a
it's
sort
of
always
a
trend,
but
it's
especially
a
trend.
Now
that
we've
had
this
crash
course
in
mobile
ordering
because
of
the
pandemic,
people
are
much
more
comfortable
ordering
food
goods
services
over
their
phone
and
in
an
airport
environment
when
people
are
already
staring
at
their
phone.
It
just
seems
like
a
natural
expansion
of
that
technology
to
be
integrated
into
that
experience.
So
that's
something
that
we
will.
A
Great
great
john,
I
hope
we've
represented
some
of
your
questions
and
we'll
give
you
more
opportunity
to
follow
up
on
this.
After,
if
you
want
one
of
the
commissioners
sent
a
diagram
of
all
the
locations
and
asked
specifically
about
the
green
oval,
that's
in
one
of
the
diagrams
in
the
draft
rfp
and
the
question
was:
what
are
the
plans
for
this
space
and
harry?
You
can
jump
in
if
you
have
a
point
of
view
about
this,
have
we
determined
that
it's
too
hard
to
develop?
A
J
Frankly,
they're
going
to
be
much
less
interested
in
building
out
as
much
space
as
I
think
they
should
so
having
having
an
another
zone
of
concessions,
be
built
out
from
scratch,
because
there's
there's
there'd
be
limited.
Existing
infrastructure
concessions
already
there
that
would
be
prohibitively
expensive
for
this
opportunity
and
then,
finally,
if
y'all
are
a
growing
airport
and
even
though
I'm
an
advocate
for
an
airport's
commercial
program,
I
have
to
respect
the
needs
of
of
the
aeronautical
facilities.
J
I
don't
want
to
kind
of
take
off
the
table,
some
valuable
piece
of
infrastructure
or
real
estate
that
could
be
used
for
aeronautical
purposes
or
support
services,
as
you
all
continue
to
grow
because
at
some
point
not
tomorrow,
but
I
think
a
few
years
from
now
y'all
are
going
to
have
to
look
pretty
seriously
at.
You
know
how?
How
do
you,
how
do
you
expand
your
facilities
and
that's
right
in
the
heart
of
your
existing
terminal
facility?
A
Okay,
there
was
a
lot
of
questions
around
the
timeline
for
the
concessions
contract.
We
were
very
very
concerned
that
the
vendors
have
enough
time,
both
local
vendors,
as
well
as
some
of
these
national
players
had
enough
time
to
understand
the
rfp
to
work
together
so
that
city
council
could
award
this
contract
in
december
of
22,
which
would
give
five
months
for
the
successor
to
work
on
their
plans
and
to
you
know,
kind
of
jump
into
the
game
running
in
may
1st
you'll
see
from
these
questions.
A
There's
some
questions
around
you
know
is
this
realistic
and
can
we
expect
even
with
that,
lead
time
if
the
decision
is
made
in
december
of
22?
What
can
we
expect
the
successor
to
be
able
to
do
on
may
1st,
and
should
we
tweak
expectations?
We
hope
not,
but
are
there
other
other
expectations
we
should
have
based
on
this
timeline.
A
J
J
So
if
there's
anything
that
the
city
or
the
commission
can
do
to,
you
know
provide
some
sort
of
guidance
or
even
a
document
as
to
how
that
how
that
process
should
go,
you
know
will
will
there
be,
you
know?
Is
there?
Is
there
a
dark
cloud
of
like
a
a
year
and
a
half
of
architectural
review
board
hearings?
Or
is
this
something
that
can
proceed
as
quickly
as
say
that
the
ticketing
wing
expansion
did?
So
that's
that
that
my
mind
is
a
risk
factor?
A
A
Last
question:
before
I
open
it
up
to
our
my
fellow
commissioners:
there's
no
specific
language
against
lgbt
discrimination.
I
know
there's
reference
made
to
page
111
and
the
question
was
well.
While
current
federal
law
does
not
protect
the
lgbt
community,
we
live
in
a
community,
the
60
lgbt.
Is
there
any
way?
A
J
A
Okay,
we
can
get
that
to
you,
the
the
missing
information,
it's
just
typos
and
other
things.
We
won't
waste
our
time
talking
about
that
you've
identified
that
this
is
a
process
and
you'll
do
it.
Those
are
those
are
the
summary
of
the
high
points
and
the
questions.
Let
me
now
open
this
up
to
my
fellow
commissioners
additional
questions.
A
A
C
Yeah,
I
have
a
question.
I
heard
sort
of
an
underlying
sort
of
concern
that
you
know
we
might
run
into
some
challenges
with
the
bidding
or
with
the
responses
I
should
say,
can
we
level
set
on
how
serious
that
is?
Is
this
just
a
question
of
you
have
to
kind
of
roust
up
the
the
respondents?
Are
we
in
the
possible
realm
of
having
fewer
responses,
or
maybe
very
limited,
number
of
responses
to
the
rfp.
J
There's
a
couple
of
reasons
why
there
would
be
limited
responses.
One
is
over
the
past
decade
or
so
there's
been
a
consolidation
in
the
concessionaire
industry.
The
big
boys
have
been
buying
up
the
medium-sized
boys
so
to
speak,
and
so
there
are
fewer
possible
major
concessionaires
to
even
bid
on
this.
J
The
mr
corcoran
mentioned
there
were
four
major
concessionaires
out
hunting
for
local
partners
two
years
ago,
and
I
would
expect
those
four
to
to
be
very
interested
and
probably
would
propose
that
would
be
a
healthy
competition.
In
my
mind,
to
get
three
or
four
the
there
are
some
smaller
concessionaires
that
operate
in
in
california,
high-flying
foods,
for
example,
so
I
will
reach
out
directly
to
them.
J
They
did
not
come
to
the
community
outreach
meeting
two
years
ago,
so
I
can
see
what's
up
and
then
there
are
some
some
foreign,
some
other
foreign-based
concessionaires
that
may
be
looking
to
get
into
the
u.s
market,
and
this
could
be
an
opportunity
for
them.
But
normally
the
ones
that
are
coming
in
are
are
so
focused
on
the
large
hubs
that
they
may
not.
H
H
What
is
plan
b
if
we
have
one
person
or
two
people
or
three,
but
two
of
them
are
obviously
so
behind
in
terms
of
the
capabilities
or
the
economic
success
rate.
What's
our
what's
our
plan
then,
and
we've
spent
two
and
a
half
years
and
their
end
result
is
inadequate
supply
or
in
adequate
demand.
Do
we
have
a
backup.
J
You're
not
compelled
to
say
take
the
take
the
one
with
the
highest
score
say
if,
if,
if
the
proposal
of
all
the
proposals
are
dogs,
so
so,
then
I
I
would
defer
to
this
to
the
city
on
what
happens
next,
but
I
think
the
the
process
would
be
you.
You
stick
with
your
incumbent
for
another
year
or
two
and
and
reboot
the
rfp
process.
I
I
I
So
I
know
that,
with
their
existing
agreement
they
would
go
to
a
month-to-month
agreement
and
kind
of
a
holding
over
period.
Then
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
potentially
sign
another
one
to
three
year
agreement,
depending
on
what
we
decide
and,
depending
on
what
type
of
infrastructure
they'd
be
willing
to
commit
to
like
capital
investment
infrastructure
that
they'd
be
willing
to
commit
to.
A
What
we
don't
know
is:
are
they
willing
to
incorporate
local
brands?
I
mean
this
rfp,
my
hope
is,
will
give
them
if
them
and
all
of
all
of
the
competition
hosts
and
the
others
give
them
the
opportunity
to
really
fine-tune
what's
most
important
to
us,
and
that
is
to
make
sure
this
airport
reflects
local
brands,
local
tastes
and
local
vendors.
So
I
understand,
because
of
the
pandemic
and
and
some
certain
concessions.
D
A
H
H
We
have
to
understand
that
going
into
this
process,
because
I
just
don't
see
the
economics
I
mean,
I
I'm
not
sure
what
the
economics
are
going
to
be
in
two
years,
but
I
think
we
have
to
keep
that
in
the
back
of
our
minds.
This
has
to
be
economically
viable
process,
an
economically
viable
product
to
make
this
successful
at
all,
especially
for
the
airport.
E
F
They
don't
have
the
appetite
right
now
and
it's
because
of
the
pandemic.
You
know
they
took
an
economic
hit
and
I
don't
think
they.
They
really
have
the
appetite
nor
the
financial
resources
for
the
infrastructure.
So
myself,
I
would
expect
that
we
will
be
very
disappointed
in
the
local
participation.
J
In
that
spectrum,
you
can
have
partnerships,
joint
ventures,
so
say
the
lending
can
be
based
on
the
the
you
know,
the
the
balance
sheet
of
the
of
the
major
concessionaire
and
their
access
to
capital
and
expertise
and
and
the
local
person
can
be
a
minority
partner
in
that
joint
venture.
So
there's
there's
a
few
different
ways:
you
can
crack
that
nut
and
have
local
participation
well,.
F
B
G
So
the
answer
to
that
is
fundamentally:
yes,
there's
a
longer
answer
to
that.
But
fundamentally
yes,
here's
funds
could
be
leveraged
to
to
help
offset
the
way
the
language
is
crafted
around
the
computers
act.
It
really
puts
an
emphasis
on
terminal
reconfiguration,
so
you
have
to
really
look
into
how.
F
H
I
think
our
consultant,
while
very
diplomatically
saying
it
is
that
we're
still
a
small
airport
and-
and
we
may
be
growing
and
all
of
us
think
we're
gonna
become
a
much
bigger
airport
than
we
are
now
and
I
think
we
are
going
to
too
actually.
But
at
this
point
the
future
I
mean
these
people,
don't
necessarily
look
at
it
the
same
way.
They
say
what
am
I
going
to
get
in
the
next
fiscal
year?
What
am
I
going
to
get
in
the
fiscal
year?
After
that?
H
I
mean
that's
the
hard
numbers,
the
profit
and
loss
statements
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
I
think
my
experience
has
been
that
the
owner
of
the
property
has
to
usually
put
in
infrastructure
dollars.
Now
that
may
be
infrastructure
dollars,
and
I'm
not
saying
we
have
that
money
and
I
don't
want
to
put
harry
or
anybody
in
a
bind.
H
But
you
know
there
are
infrastructure
dollars
you
can
use
in
terms
of
plumbing
and
electricity
and
gas
and
all
the
sorts
of
things
that
could
be
used,
no
matter
who
the
franchisee
is
and
that
could
be
used
over
and
over
and
over
again.
So
it's
not
a
lost
cause,
but
I
think
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
we're
going
to
be
forced
with,
because
I'm
afraid
that
peter's
right,
I
I
think
we're
going
to
be
disappointed
at
the
end
of
this.
H
Just
looking
at
the
economic
factors
that
we
see
in
front
of
us
now
and
some
of
the
things
we've
discussed
tonight
on
other
topics,
and
I'm
just
scared
that
we
should
have
discussions
about
that.
Maybe
that's
a
possibility.
We
definitely
should
at
least
talk
about,
and
especially
with
the
city
council-
and
you
know,
and
and
maybe
contemplate
and
staff
may
have
some
great
ideas
on
how
we
could
use
some
infrastructure
dollars
to
help
soften
the
blow
or
entice.
H
A
A
B
Okay,
thanks
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
peter's
comments
earlier
that
we
may
be.
You
know,
throwing
funds
and
people
that
don't
really
need
it,
and
I
I
guess
I
wonder
if
it
might
be
feasible
to
limit
that
sort
of
infrastructure
helping
to
local
joint
ventures-
or
you
know
things
of
that
matter
or
where
it's
possible
to
not
give
away
infrastructure
to
people
that
don't
need
it,
but
to
give
infrastructure
to
local
brands
that
we'd
like
to
get
involved.
F
I
mean
as
unpopular
as
that
may
sound,
but
I
think
we
heard
a
lot
today
that
may
support
extending
the
existing
agreement.
Maybe
for
a
year
or
two
and
as
victoria
said,
maybe
they
these
police
can
reach
out
to
local
merchants.
You
know
to
get
participation
so
that
we
have
some
local
participation
and
yet
give
us
some
time,
because
I
think
we've
been
seeing
here
that
we
haven't
clearly
thought
it
through.
There
are
a
few
steps
we
still
need
to
take.
J
So
the
recent
discussion
of
what
to
do
with
the
cares
act-
money,
I
think
is,
is
one
that
has
already
occurred
to
the
the
team
and
it's
a
it's
it's
sort
of
a
a
way
of
okay.
Well,
how
do
we,
how
do
I?
How
do
we
identify
what
infrastructure
improvement
is
appropriate
and
you
know
non-discriminatory
across
the
the
various
tenets
that
we
may
have
on
the
timing
issue?
E
J
J
J
J
J
J
A
What
it's
worth
I
I
agree.
I
scott
peter,
I'm
humbled
by
by
your
advice
on
this
thing
and
I
think
it's
important
to
think
about
it,
but
considering
the
growth
we've
had
I'd
hate
to
give
up
on
this
prayer,
at
least
to
see
how
the
market
reacts.
To
this
I
mean
we
saw
the
enthusiasm
that
was
generated
in
this
community
when
hosts
and
parodies
and
others
started
to
partner
with
people
and
most
of
those
folks
were
either
licensing
or
some
sort
of
a
joint
deal.
A
A
B
J
The
short
answer
is
yes,
I
think
it's
so
the
procurement
department
is
is
kind
of
driving
the
bus
on
this.
That's
that's
kim
who's
on
this
call
as
well,
and-
and
so
it's
it's
it's.
I
guess
it's
it's
her
document,
not
mine,
but
we
are
all
helping
edit
it
and
improve
it,
and
we
will
obviously
take
these
many
comments
and
and
suggestions
and
make
make
the
rfp
clearer
and
better.
A
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
to
read
it
for
your
offering
the
questions,
raleigh
and
team
kim.
Thank
you
for
providing
your
insights.
We
look
forward
to
the
next
round.
This
is
important
to
us.
This
is
one
of
our
two
priorities
for
the
city,
so
please
keep
us
in
the
loop
and
we'll
I
promise
to
communicate
to
all
the
commissioners
next
steps
once
we
hear
some
feedback
from
you
guys.
A
H
Can't
be
heard
that
he
thought
we
were
going
to
start
listing
the
committee
meetings
on
the
agenda,
the
actual
dates
as
they
became
available,
and
so
I
wanted
to
find
out
or-
and
I'm
interested
in
that
as
well.
So
I'm
wondering
is
there
a
way
we
can
start
listing?
The
committee
dates
on
the
committee
portion,
the
fort
on
agenda
number
14
and
when
those
dates
are
currently
so
that
we
all
know
when
committees
are
meeting.
A
B
A
B
A
G
The
only
city
council
actions
are
on
a
consent
agenda
and
that's
for
the
lamar
agreement
that
is
to
extend
our
agreement
for
one
year.
I
think
we
need
to
commission
about
that.
I
want
to
say
two
meetings
ago
and
we
expect
that
to
fly
through
with
no
issues.
So
that's
the
only
thing
we've
gotten.
In
addition
to
now.
I
guess
what
the
commission
approved
in
this
meeting,
which
is
the
airline.