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From YouTube: Airport Commission | Jan 19 2022
Description
City of Palm Springs Airport Commission Meeting, held January 19th, 2022
B
A
It's
wednesday
january
19th
2022.
This
is
a
meeting
of
the
airport
commission
for
palm
springs.
Chairman
dada
is
unable
to
facilitate
tonight,
so
I'm
going
to
step
in
and
lead
our
meeting
this
evening,
I'll
officially
call
to
order
and
we'll
do
a
pledge
of
allegiance
ken
hendrick.
Are
you
with
us
tonight
there
you
are.
Do
you
want
to
lead
us
in
the
pledge?
Please
ken.
B
C
C
E
B
C
C
A
B
B
B
A
We
need
to
get
approval
for
the
minutes
of
december
15th.
Has
everyone
had
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes
from
our
last
meeting
and
if
so,
can
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes?
Please.
B
A
All
right,
let's
move
on
to
the
city
manager
report.
Did
everyone
have
an
opportunity
to
read
the
report
that
justin
sent
to
the
commission?
C
Yes,
go
ahead,
ken
the
feather
airport,
strategic
planning
last
paragraph,
the
last
five
lines:
can
anyone
further
explain
what
is
being
discussed
there?
A
F
As
a
part
of
the
strategic
plan
for
the
city,
yes,
the
council
and
the
city
manager,
they
are
reviewing
each
commission's
work.
So
I
believe
that
is
what
he
was
referring
to,
but
to
narrow
that
context.
A
bit
one
of
the
questions.
F
G
A
And
I
think
the
both
refer
prefer
to
wait
until
the
new
executive
director
is
announced,
but
also
whatever
we
do
will
be
in
the
context
of
what
the
city
is
doing
and
looking
at
the
overall
planning
process
and
how
commissions
will
be
engaged
that
planning
process.
So
I
think
in
my
read
on
it
ken
the
last
five
five
lines
is
that
he
wants
to
align
whatever
we
decide
to
do
in
our
strategic
planning.
A
We
talked
about
our
last
meeting
with
what
the
city
is
going
to
do
overall,
so
the
two
issues
of
when
the
ed
is
announced
he
would
like
to
that
person
to
be
involved
and
whatever
we
do,
our
approach
that
we
take
will
be
in
the
context
of
what
the
city
is
doing
overall.
F
A
F
I
think
daniel's
either
still
unmute
or
he's
got
a
problem
with
technology,
so
we
can
pause
them
on
the
presentation
for
a
little
bit
while
he
gets
rebooted
here
and
we
can
move
on
to
victoria.
That's
appropriate.
G
Good
evening
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
a
area.
Am
I
going
to
review
the
concession
rfp
schedule.
G
Perfect
all
right,
so
we
just
wanted
to
bring
to
the
commission's
attention
that
and
advise
the
commission
that
the
airport
advertising
concession
contract
with
lamar
is
under
negotiation
for
one
one
year
extension.
So
we
are
trying
to
get
that
extended
for
one
more
year,
expiring
on
march
31st
2023.
G
The
extension
will
reinstate
the
mag
that
was
waived
due
to
copid
and
is
scheduled
to
go
to
city
council
in
february.
So
just
a
quick
update
on
that
and
then
I
can
go
ahead
and
do
the
financials.
H
Sure
what
are
the,
what
are
the
details
of
it
in
the
sense
of
what
does
a
one
year
extension,
give
us
and
what's
the
cost.
G
Yeah,
so
the
one-year
extension
right
now
is
just
waving
the
mag,
so
I
don't
have
the
details
on
what
the
mag
would
be
able
to
provide
us
for
the
next
upcoming
year.
We
know
that
we
wanted
to
extend
this
out,
because
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
a
good
plan
in
place
for
the
upcoming
year.
G
So
we're
going
to
see
if
we
want
to
go
out
for
a
new
rfp
for
an
advertising
agreement,
because
the
one
that
we've
had
in
place
has
been
in
place
for
quite
some
time
now
over
five
over
probably
10
years
now.
Originally
the
contract
was,
it
originally
belonged
to
corey
advertising,
and
then
it
got
taken
over
by
lamar.
H
C
Yes,
I'm
just
curious
victoria
commissioner
payne
here
is
this
lamar
high?
Does
this
lamar
contract
cover
both
static
and
displays,
for
example,
displays
you
see
when
you
walk
in
from
departing
through
into
the
main
lobby?
Is
it
all
advertising
at
the
airport.
C
Got
it
and
I'm
curious
of
all
the
places
that
you
could
advertise
does?
Are
you
covering
think
of
it
as
a
capacity
to
advertise?
Are
you
100
or
80
or
20,
or
to
be
determined.
C
Okay,
would
that
be
in
the
information
that
scott
requested
commissioner
miller,
and
would
it
come
as
part
of
that.
G
I'm
not
sure
we
can
maybe
request
that
from
lamar.
I
do
know
that
the
existing
contract
that
they
have
they
still
have
about
a
good
amount
of
additional
capital
infrastructure
that
they're
supposed
to
do
here
at
the
airport.
G
So
I
know
that
there's
some
space
that
still
could
do
use
some
advertising
signs
that
maybe
could
even
be
digital
signage,
so
I'm
not
100
sure
on
the
capacity
of
what
is
existing
and
what
could
be
what
and
what
is
100
utilized.
So
we
should
probably
request
that
from
lamar
and
see
if
they
can
provide
that.
G
I
Okay,
thank
you.
You
guys
can
hear
me
now
great
standing,
I'm
on
on
the
advertising
thing
right,
so
an
advertise
hi
victoria
and
I
kind
of
handled
together.
She
handles
the
contracts
in
the
lease
and
I
had
all
kind
of
kind
of
thing
that's
like
customer
facing.
So
the
public
sees
it
like.
I
approve
the
ads.
I
can
put
out
everything
all
digital
space
is
currently
100
sold
out.
So
we're
doing
very
well
on
that
and
then
miller
scott's
question
about
a
cost.
There's
no
cost
to
us
to
extend
the
contract.
I
D
I
H
So
staff
is
so
I'm
sorry,
this
is
scott
miller,
so
staff
is
reviewing
this
and
because
the
contract
is
up
in
march,
they
want
to
use
this
as
a
stop
gap
measure
and
to
go
to
the
council
for
a
one-year
extension
and
is
this
extension
part
of
the
original
contract
that
just
needs
council
approval
or
is,
as
has
other
options
been
looked
at
or
just
staff
had
time
to
look
at
other
options.
I'm
just
kind
of
curious.
I
H
A
I
Hey
all
right,
so
the
packet
you
guys
should
have
seen
the
entire
the
new
proposed
incentive
program
set
out
in
your
packet
last
week
from
christina.
I
worked
on
this
together
with
ollie
lamb
from
11
pacific,
the
air
service
development
consultant
that
works
with
physic
greater
palm
strings
he's
also
on
the
call
to
help
any
answer,
any
potential
questions
that
may
come
up,
and
then
we
also
worked
with
there's
a
greater
palm
springs
and
scott
white
and
gary
also
reviewed
it
as
well,
so
I'll
kind
of
go
through
it.
I
I
I've
also
got
a
time
frame
in
there,
starting
on
march,
having
it
start
on
march
1st
of
this
year
and
then
expiring
on
march
31st
of
2025,
so
a
three-year
program,
or
it
could
be
longer
if
the
city
council
decides
to
extend
it
or
shorter
if
they
cite
to
cancel,
for
whatever
reason,
I
kind
of
this
next
page
is
what
some
of
the
key
differences
between
the
2019
air
service
incentive
program
and
the
2022
program
different.
I
So
the
two,
the
two
the
2019
program,
offered
similar
fee
waivers
as
this
program,
but
only
for
12
months.
The
2022
program
offers
waivers
for
up
to
24
months
on
our
most
desired
routes.
2019
offered
the
same
fee
waivers
no
matter
if
it
was
a
new
or
existing
route,
and
so
basically,
if,
if
you
want
to
go
on
an
existing
or
you
get
the
same
waivers
as
if
you
were
bringing
us
a
brand
new
one,
this
new
one,
it
does
reduces
the
waiver
amounts
on
existing
routes.
I
So
we
can
encourage
service
and
current
airlines
to
add
new
routes
and
additional
routes.
2019
was
kind
of
limited
because
of
it
had
a
target
city
list,
and
so
if
an
airline
came
to
us
with
an
idea,
but
it
wasn't,
but
the
city
wasn't
on
that
list.
We
couldn't
provide
sim
incentives
for
it.
This
new
incident
program
has
a
target
signal
list
for
our
highest
demand
routes,
and
I
get
it
also
gets
our
best
best
incentives.
I
As
a
result,
then
we
have
lower
levels
that
are
offered
for
other
opportunities,
so
we
don't
limit
our
growth
potential
because
now
it's
new
airlines
coming
on
new
airlines
coming
around
new
aircraft
types
roots
previously
may
have
not
been
viable,
may
be
viable
today,
and
so
we
don't
want
to
limit
ourselves.
I
So
we
have
it's
going
to
be
a
new
program
that
stair
steps
down
2022
this
new
one
has
a
clawback
provision
where
2019
program
did
not
so,
for
instance,
we
give
incentives
or
marketing
funds
to
an
airline
and
they
say
decide
to
exit
the
route
within
like
say
three
months:
it
has
a
provision
where
the
city
could
go
back
and
have
them
repay
more
any
marketing
funds.
We
give
them
if
they
don't
meet
the
agreement.
I
For
the
incentives,
previous
other
there's
been
a
couple
different
iterations
of
incentive
programs
for
for
the
airport
and
they
either
offered
maybe
just
marketing
funds
or
just
waivers
but
really
never
had
both
together
and
that
really
didn't
meet
current
industry
standards.
This
new
one
offers
both
marketing
funds
and
fee
waivers,
which
is
going
to
create
a
robust,
very
competitive
incentive
package.
That's
going
to
meet
the
industry
standards
and
exceed
them
in
some
ways
and
kind
of
really
set
us
apart
and
ahead
of
some
other
airports.
I
This
new
program
also
offers
additional
marketing
funds
and
rent
waivers
for
new
entrant
airlines
to
encourage
more
airlines
to
come
to
palm
springs.
The
2019
program
did
not
offer
something
like
that
waivers.
I
have
set
to
start
on
being
available
on
march
1st
22
marketing
funds
on
july
1st
of
22
to
coincide
with
the
start
of
the
new
fiscal
year.
The
old
program
in
2019
had
a
cap
of
500
000,
total
of
waivers
for
the
whole
program.
I
This
one
we
set
up
to
be
an
annual
review
during
the
budget
season
to
determine
the
level
of
funds
and
waivers
per
fiscal
year,
and
also
what
our
goals
may
be.
Your
community
needs
maybe
one
year
we
could
add
more
funds
or
we
could
take
some
away.
I
We
went
with
a
million
dollars
because,
for
example,
if
a
new
airline
comes
in
starts
a
daily
service
to
say
washington
dc
on
the
737,
they
will
get
up
approximately
three
hundred
and
eight
thousand
dollars
in
waivers
and
so
putting
a
million
dollars
in
there.
We
can
try
and
get
some
of
our
top
three
markets
knocked
out
of
there
and
wouldn't
really
limit
ourselves.
But
again,
this
is
just
a
recommendation
when
a
fiscal,
when
the
budget
comes
around,
we
can
go
around
and
see
what
we
may
want
to
do.
I
I
If
it's
a
target
airport
at
the
target,
airports
would
be
atlanta,
chicago,
hawaii,
houston,
new
york
and
washington,
washington
dc.
We
got
24
months
of
landing
fee
and
terminal
waivers.
Those
two
waivers
are
currently
offered
in
the
current
program.
So
that's
not
new,
but
what
is
new
is
actually
we'd
give
them
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
market.
We
do
have
stipulations
in
there
for
marketing
funds.
They
do
have
to
be
spent
within
the
co
in
the
catchment
area
of
the
airport.
I
They
also
have
to
mention
our
name
or
use
our
logo,
so
there
are
some
stipulations
on
that
to
make
sure
that
they
they
use
where
you
are.
They
also
have
to
run
their
media
plans
by
us
and
their
ads
for
approval.
So
we
do
have
say
in
how
they
are
spending
the
money
we
are
given
to
advertise
their
new
service.
I
This
one
is,
it
has
18
months
of
waivers
for
a
target
airport
targeted
airports
being
the
same
as
what
you
saw
on
the
previous
slide,
and
then
we
have
some
for
an
unserved
airport,
which
would
be
an
airport
without
service,
and
then
we
have
some
incentives
for
an
existing
airport,
so
if
they
want
to
come
in
and
provide
mason
competing
service,
but
again
we
were
saving
the
best
incentives
for
our
target
airports
or
uncertain
airports
to
encourage
growth
and
more
non-stop
routes
from
the
airport.
I
The
next
one
is
what's
also
really
important
to
us
and
visit
greater
palm
springs
is
converting
more
of
our
seasonal
routes
to
year
round.
So
we
have
this.
One
has
incentives
for
an
airline.
I
I
feel,
like
you,
know
american
airlines
to
take
their
chicago
service
to
year
round
or
delta
take
atlanta
year
round,
and
so
we
provide
some
incentives
for
some
marketing
funds
to
help
spread
the
word
and
create
awareness
about
it,
but
also
some
landing
fee
and
terminal
waivers
just
for
the
additional
months
so
say
for
right
now,
if
delta's
running
atlanta
october
through
april,
then,
if
they
try
to
take
it
year
round,
they
get
incentives
for
may
june
july
and
august
and
then
of
course,
we
also
have
for
other
existing
seasonal
airports.
I
So,
right
now,
like
austin
texas,
is
a
seasonal
one.
Des
moines
is
another
seasonal,
one,
so
like
say
an
airport.
What,
if
they
want
to
make
if
nair
line
was
to
make
those
year-round
we'd
have
some
incentive
to
convert
those
to
a
year-round
route
as
well
option
four
would
be
for
seasonal
service.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
service
on
a
seasonal
service,
so
I
know
definitely
a
goal
of
the
community
and
in
the
visit
greater
palm
springs
to
have
more
year-round
service.
I
This
was
for
international
service
target
airports
or
basically
any
international
airport
without
existing
non-stop
service,
and
then
we
have
some
for
existing
airports.
If
a
company
meeting
airline
wants
to
come
on
and
offer
that,
of
course,
this
only
applies
to
airports
where
they
have
us
pre-clearances.
We
do
not
have
an
fis
facility
at
this
time.
I
Another
one
is
for
short-haul
commuter
service.
So
if
you
guys
are
familiar
but
there's
some
small
airlines,
one
of
them
is
cape
air.
They
operate
out
of
boston
and
they
do
fly
a
little
like
ninth
seater,
like
cessna,
402s
or
caravans,
to
like
mars
vineyard
and
things
like
that.
There's
some
other
airlines
that
are
starting
up
and
doing
some
west
coast
service.
I
So
this
want
to
be
fortunate
to
come
into
commuter
place,
to
say,
like
santa
barbara,
even
long
beach,
san
diego
things
like
that,
this
particular
one
is
only
valid
for
airports
within
150
nautical
miles,
the
pre,
the
other
programs.
I
I
should
have
noted
they're
not
valid
for
airports
within
150
nautical
miles,
so
we
don't
want
to
give
great
incentives
for
somebody
to
hop
over
to
lax
or
something
like
that
so
again,
so
this
one's
going
to
be
something
that's
when
somebody
wants
to
come
with
a
small
plane
and
do
something
like
san
diego,
some
commuter
service,
maybe
burbank
things
like
that
option.
Seven
and
the
final
option
is
for
new
intra
airlines.
Only
this
is
one
that
you
don't
see
a
lot
in
other
airports.
I
I
So
I
worked
in
a
lot
of
incentive
programs
with
the
legion
with
a
lot
of
airports
other
than
building
incentive
programs,
and
we,
I
only
saw
this
one
other
time,
and
this
one
would
give
additional
space
waivers
like
for
office
space
and
a
ticket
counter
for
a
new
airline
to
come
in
for
one
year
and
also
additional
marketing
dollars
to
help
build
up
their
brand
and
their
awareness
in
the
market,
and
then
so
that
was
we
have
questions
we
have
well.
I
If
we
have
that's
all
different
options,
and
so
after
this
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
and
we've
given
some
incentives
through
southwest
and
other
airlines,
so
I've
got
a
couple
examples
here
to
kind
of
show.
You
know
what
what's
our
roi
so
we're
putting
this
out
there
we're
spending
this
money.
But
what
are
we
getting
back
from
it?
So,
right
now
we
have,
through
q3
of
21
data
from
the
dot
on
passengers
daily
each
way,
which
is
p.
I
Do
that
tells
you
how
many
people
are
traveling
from
palm
springs
to
say:
vegas,
denver,
oakland
on
average,
every
day
before
we
had
the
service
to
vegas,
we
had
point
eight
people
flying
between
palm
springs
and
las
vegas.
When
staples
came
in,
we
now
average
39.6
people
per
day
going
just
to
las
vegas.
This
is
just
a
vegas.
This
doesn't
count
people
who
are
connecting
through
vegas
going
to
other
places,
but
just
about
one
market
oakland.
We
got
that
one
that
got
incentivized
to
southwest
for
oakland.
We
had,
I
put
the
two.
I
I
combine
it
with
san
francisco,
because
there
is
some
cannibalization
now
that
we
have
oakland
service.
We
don't
have
quite
as
many
people
coming
from
sfo,
but
overall,
if
you
combine
this
too,
that
market
has
grown,
so
we
actually
have
an
additional
80
people
per
day,
each
way
so
160
people
a
day,
traveling
between
palm
springs
and
the
oakland
san
francisco
area
denver
in
2019.
We
only
have
about
54
people
a
day,
traveling
each
direction
so
108.
I
Now
we
have
80
almost
83
people
a
day.
So
with
southwest
coming
on
that
one,
the
market
did
grow,
almost
29,
more
additional
people,
so
we
have.
Additionally,
we
have
going
one
way
again.
Pdu
is
an
industry
term
since
we're
passengers
daily
each
way.
So
for
the
round
trip,
you
would
just
double
it,
so
an
average
of
147.8,
more
people
flying
out
just
to
those
three
markets
and
then
also
flying
in
from
those
markets.
I.
I
To
kind
of
calculate
what
our
return
is,
so
we
use
a
there's.
Another
term
we
have
is
rpe,
which
is
revenue
per
employment.
We
know
how
much
revenue
we
bring
in
as
an
airport.
You
divide
that
over
all
the
people
who
come
through
fly
through,
and
that
gives
you
your
average
your
your
rpe,
like
how
much
money
you
make
per
person
flying
through
your
airport.
I
went
really
conservative
and
decided.
You
know.
I
used
only
30
percent
of
the
robbing
passenger
that
says
they
have
those
147
people
that
now
fly
into
those
three
markets.
I
30
of
them
are
44
people.
Let's
say
they
rent
a
car.
We
make
about
69
and
39
cents
per
passenger,
is
the
average
rp
for
that.
So
that
would
total
if
you
calculate
it
out
for
365
days,
1.1
million
dollars
annually
in
additional
revenue
just
from
those
new
people
coming
in
if
they,
if
only
30,
rent
a
car
on
the
departing
side,
we
have
say
30
people
of
those
147
say
they
park
at
the
airport.
Well,
that
calculates
out
about
additional
72,
almost
73
000
a
year
in
revenue.
I
Let's
say:
30
percent
of
those
people
also
go
to
one
of
the
news
and
gift
shops.
That's
about
up
to
seventy
nine
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
revenue
that
we
didn't
have
before
we
had
these
new
incentivized
routes
and
say
thirty
percent
of
people
also
dine.
They
grab
a
meal
at
the
airport
airport
before
they
fly
out.
I
That's
another
88
thousand
dollars
a
year
that
we
would
make
all
these
new
incentivized
routes,
so
our
total
invest
our
total
revenue
we're
making
off
these
three
new
routes
just
from
those
new
passengers
coming
through
that
weren't
previously
coming
through
our
airport,
is
a
little
over
1.3
million
dollars
per
year.
Our
total
incentives
given
for
those
four
was
three
different
routes
was
four
hundred
forty
nine
thousand
dollars
was
ours.
Almost
450
000
was
our
total
investment
into
that,
so
an
estimated
profit
of
905
000
or
over
100
roi
on
our
incentives.
So.
B
I
It
sounds
like
we're
giving
away
a
lot
of
money
waivers,
but
we
do
get
things
back.
We
actually
when
the
airline
comes
in,
we
give
the
incentives.
We
get
a
lot
of
other
revenue,
other
sources
that
ends
up
coming
back
and
paying
us
more
paying
us
back
quite
a
bit
more
than
our
initial
investment
was
in
that.
So
I
think
with
that
questions,
anybody
I'm
sure
it's
probably
going
to
be
a
few.
D
Yes,
if
I
may,
I
have
a
general
comment
and
then
I
have
a
couple
of
specific
questions.
As
you
know,.
I
D
Always
I've
always
supported
an
expanded
air
service
incentive
program.
I
do
100
percent
endorse
this
proposed
program.
In
fact,
I
love
it
still
I'd
like
to
voice
some
caution.
It
all
goes
back
our
discussion
on
the
strategic
plan
and
shows
why
we
cannot
just
approve
these
programs
in
a
vacuum.
They
are
all
interconnected.
D
D
So
my
point
is
you
know
it's
great
to
be
successful
and
I
have
no
doubt
we
will
be,
but
I
mean
will
we
be
able
to
keep
up
with
it,
and-
and
this
is
why
I've
so
strongly
suggested
in
the
past-
that
you
know
to
go
about
these
items
in
in
independently
when
they
are
really
interconnected.
D
First
of
all,
when
in
the
incentive
option
number
one
the
target
airports,
when
we
talk
about
washington,
d.c
shouldn't,
we
talk
about
really
the
metropolitan
area.
That
includes
baltimore.
You
know
considering
that
baltimore
is
a
major
major
hub
for
southwest,
so
I
think
somehow,
we've
worded
it
or
put
baltimore
in
there,
but
I
think
baltimore
should
be
one
of
the
target
cities.
D
I
D
I
But
our
main
target
city
list
is
what
I
worked
on
with,
with
all
invisible
palm
springs
for
highest
demand
which
being
like
chicago
new
york,
dc.
E
Peter,
maybe
I
can
jump
in
here
and
commissioners
good
evening.
Thank
you
peter,
as
always,
for
your
huge
support
of
their
service.
Development
in
palm
springs.
You've
been
a
long
time
supporter
of
our
efforts.
So
thank
you
very
much
in
terms
of
your
first
question.
Around
baltimore
daniel's
plan
definitely
does
encompass
baltimore
within
the
washington
dc
metro
target.
E
So
all
those
cities
you
saw
there
were
inclusive
of
airports
within
the
same
metro
area
and
I
think
the
difference
with
say
houston
is
houston's
one
of
those
markets
where
we're
targeting
an
extension
of
a
seasonal
route
to
a
year
round,
whereas
dallas
we
already
have
year
round.
So
the
goal
for
houston
is
to
make
that
a
summer
time
as
well
service
and
the
other
cities
you've
named
really
interesting
cities.
E
What
we
see
when
we
look
at
visitation
to
palm
springs,
is
they
fall
in
the
next
tier
below
the
the
cities
that
daniel's
listed
there?
So
daniel's
been
really
comprehensive
in
the
cities
that
he's
listed
there
because
he
didn't
want
to
have
a
shopping
list
of
cities
there,
which
meant
we
were
handing
out
money
for
everything,
but
he
wanted
to
target
things
that
meant
the
most
sense
to
both
our
residents
and
our
visitors
alike.
D
D
You
know
wait
for
us
to
okay,
it
and-
and
we
opted
because
the
previous
executive
director
didn't
think
we
could
do
both.
We
opted
for
the
fee
waiver
saying
well,
okay,
now
the
airline
basically
has
the
funds
and
they
they
can
use
it
for
marketing.
They
don't
have
to
use
it
for
operational
purposes.
They
can
use
it
for
anything
they
like
and
and
so
in.
In
this
new
program.
D
The
the
only
thing
that
I
don't
like
is
the
fact
that
basically,
we
are
going
back
to
airport
must
approve
in
advance
all
advertising
promotional,
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah.
So
I
submit
to
you
if
there
is
ten
thousand
dollar
at
stake,
a
fifteen
thousand
dollar
at
stake.
D
I
Yeah
they'll
be
working
directly
with
me
on
that
I
don't
anticipate
that
being
an
issue
at
all.
When
I
was
at
tulsa
doing
the
same
thing,
they
would
run
everything
through
us
and
it
was
very
quick.
I
don't
know
who
did
before.
I
was
here
like
a
real
program.
I'm
not
sure
how
the
process
was
for
it,
but
when
I
was
at
a
legion
we
would
we
took
a
lot
of
incidents
from
airports
and
we
didn't
find
it
to
be
any
kind
of
a
hassle
problem.
I
C
I
do
thank
you
short
haul.
This
is
vested
self-interest
and
I
will
admit
to
it
up
front,
but
would
love
to
see
and
I'd,
be
very
curious
about
daniel
your
comment
and
always
around
a
short
short
trip
and
sending
short
trips
to
lax
on
a
more
frequent
basis,
a
more
convenient
schedule
for
international
connections
to
avoid
the
drive
time
of
either
90
minutes
to
five
hours
depending
on
time
of
day.
So
just
curious
about
your
comments.
I
C
I
Airports
and
around
the
la
area
and
southern
california,
and
also
just
just
through
social
media
comments.
We
get
a
lot
of
requests,
people
wanting
service
to
places
like
burbank,
just
because
they
usually
just
like
your
your
comment
to
avoid
the
the
la
traffic.
So
that's
what
we
threw
that
in
because
there
is
interest
we've
heard
from
the
public
and
there
are
some
other
airlines
that
might
have
some
interest
as
well.
So
we
thought
that
would
be
a
good
option
to
have.
E
John,
if
I
can
add
in
there
as
a
personal
experience,
I
flew
from
australia
on
saturday
back
to
palm
springs,
and
I
did
the
6am
drive
from
lax
palm
springs,
and
I
couldn't
agree
with
you
more.
E
I
think,
there's
there's
a
couple
of
options
here:
there's
sort
of
there's
two
types
of
the
short
haul
that
daniel's
targeting
there's
the
the
commuter
market
to
the
san
diego's,
the
burbanks,
the
santa
barbaras
of
the
world
and
then
there's
the
connecting
market
which
you're
speaking
of
which
is
how
do
we
encourage
our
international
guests
to
fly
directly
into
palm
springs
rather
than
battle
through
la
traffic
and
have
a
horrible
first
experience
coming
to
palm
springs?
E
I
think
we're
definitely
working
on
both
of
those
things
and
I
think
that's
what's
the
beauty
of
of
daniel's
design
here
is
that
we
actually
do
incentivize
both
of
those
targets,
whether
they
be
commuter
markets
to
the
santa
barbaras
or
the
san
diego,
as
well
as
the
connectivity
for
our
international
markets.
C
H
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
vice
chair.
I
kind
of
agree.
Actually
I
totally
agree
with
commissioner
frameth
is
that
we
need
to
put
this
in
context
with
the
facility
needs
of
the
airport,
and
I
think
that
is
the
second
half
of
the
question
that
we
really
need
to
discuss
and
and
and
what
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
handle
with
this
increase
in
design,
your
staff
is
suggesting
a
million
dollars
for
the
first
year.
It
could
be
two
million
dollars.
H
It
could
be
three
million
dollars
the
second
or
third
year,
and
my
concern
is
our
facilities
are
not
necessarily
keeping
up
with
the
demand
we've
seen
over
and
over
again
that
our
demands
increased
significantly
over
the
last
five
months,
but
facilities,
as
we
all
know,
take
a
much
longer
time
to
plan
and
to
build,
and
I
am
very
concerned
that
we
are
moving
fast
forward
with
marketing
and
getting
airlines
here
and
we're
at
a
snail's
pace.
H
No
one's
fault,
but
we're
at
a
snail's
pace
in
the
facility
part
of
this
and
as
I've
experienced
on
numerous
occasions,
going
into
palm
springs
myself
and
with
many
friends
the
baggage.
The
parking
the
transportation
to
and
from
the
airport
are
all
negatives
that
no
amount
of
no
amount
of
incentives
to
airlines
are
going
to
overcome,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
as
a
commission
address
those
as
well.
H
Second,
I
do
have
a
specific
question.
Is
I'm
assuming
that
these
types
of
programs
occur
at
all
of
the
airports
at
long
beach,
at
burbank,
at
orange,
county,
san,
diego
and
all
of
those?
Is
there
a
a
industry
standard
for
what
is
deemed
successful?
H
When
you
put
one
dollar
in
how
many
dollars
did
you
expect
back,
I
mean:
is
there
some
sort
of
matrix
some
sort
of
research
done
by
a
national
firm
or
an
international
firm
that
says?
Yeah
you've
got
a
successful
program.
If
you
get
three
dollars
back
for
every
one
dollar,
you
spend
that's
what
I
that's
one
of
my
two
questions.
I
Not
that
I'm
aware
of
being
like
an
industry
standard,
something
like
that
now
I
know
I
mean
we
have
our
own
success.
To
prove
that
we
are
invested
in
our
center
program
is
working,
we're
definitely
getting
our
money's
worth
out
of
that
as
far
as
the
industry
standards,
what
you
see
more
common
is
what
I
presented
having
both
marketing
and
incinerators
and
in
different
levels.
You
know
for
seasonal,
less
than
daily
things
like
that
ollie.
Are
you
aware
of
anything
like
a
standard
metric
like
that?
I
don't
I've
ever.
E
Foster
miller,
if
I
can
just
add
to
that,
I
think
not
not
trying
to
give
you
a
long
answer
to
your
short
question,
but
the
challenge
we
have
here
is
that
we
shouldn't
be
looking
at
the
airport's
incentive
plan
in
a
vacuum.
It'll
also
be
done
in
conjunction
with
visa.
E
Greater
palm
springs,
there's
certain
things
that
the
airport
can
and
can't
do
because
of
faa
regulations
that
greater
visit,
great
palm
springs
is
liberated
from,
and
so
the
quantum
of
funding
that
visit
greater
palm
springs
can
dedicate
to
any
of
these
routes
significantly
more.
E
So
when
you
do
look
at
trying
to
measure
these
things
on
a
national
basis,
you
have
to
look
at
both
what
the
airport
does,
as
well
as
what
the
visitor
organization
does,
as
well
as
the
economic
benefit
to
the
community,
which
is
usually
what
the
sort
of
the
two
organizations
are
measuring
it
against.
So
it's
quite
a
complex
measure
and
the
answer
that
is,
it
depends
on
what
you're
trying
to
measure
if
you're,
just
looking
at
the
airport
investment.
H
Well,
it
would
be
interesting
if
we
could
get
some
of
those
statistics.
I
would
like
to
see
him
being
a
new
commissioner.
Maybe
some
of
the
commissioners
who've
been
on
the
commission
for
several
years.
I've
seen
these
types
of
things,
but
you
know
I'm
looking
at
a
greater
good,
I'm
looking
at
the
taxpayers
in
palm
springs.
Are
they
getting
a
benefit
out
of
this?
You
know
I'm
looking
at
the
residents.
C
H
The
residents
getting
the
benefit
out
of
this.
I
know
businesses
are
getting
the
benefit
out
of
it
because
for
every
visitor
that
comes
there's
hotel,
there's
restaurant
there's
shopping,
but
I'm
also
looking
at
and
we
should
be
looking
at
what
are
residents,
what
are
taxpayers?
What
are
they
getting
out
of
this,
and
is
it
the
worth
the
money
that
is
being
spent
as
opposed
to
using
that
money
for
other
things?
H
So
my
second
question-
and
this
is
the
first
time
I
appreciated
getting
the
presentation
before
the
commission
meeting,
so
I
want
to
thank
daniel
or
whoever
got
that
to
us,
because
it
gave
us
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
What
we
didn't
get,
however,
was
all
the
metrics
and
the
and
the
statistics,
the
amounts
that
I'm
more
interested
in
in
terms
of
the
dollars.
H
We
just
saw
that
on
the
presentation
that
we
saw
and
I'd
love
to
to
get
those
beforehand
as
well,
because
I
don't
know,
are
those:
have
we
quantified
not
quantified?
Have
we
validated
those
metrics
that
daniel
you
used
now?
This
is
a
question
for
daniel
daniel.
Have
you
validated,
or
we
validated
as
an
airport,
those
percentages
of
people
using
this
and
using
that
and
do
we
know
those
are
true
or
are
those
educated
guesses?
I
The
passenger
numbers
yeah,
the
passenger
numbers,
come
from
the
usdot,
those
are
reported
by
the
airline.
So
those
are
fact
those
are
not
just
a
guess.
So
we
have
that
comes
from
the
us,
because
the
airlines
have
to
report
their
ticket
sales
to
the
usdots
for
a
percentage
of
it
and
that's
where
those
numbers
come
from.
H
Okay,
so
is
there
plans
to
try
to
do
a
more
to
to
do
where
we
can
get
actual
metrics?
I
mean
from
sales,
and-
and
I
mean
you
know
some
sort
of
way
to
validate
these
besides
that
I'm
not
talking
about
the
number
of
flights,
because,
yes,
that's
validated,
but
I'm
talking
about
the
other
benefits
you're
talking
about
rental
cars.
You're
talking
about
parking
you're
talking
about
things
of
that
nature
is:
do
we
keep
actual
numbers
and
tie
those
numbers
to
increased
passengers
coming
into
the
airport.
I
Okay:
okay,
okay,
yeah,
okay,
I
understand
sorry,
no,
no,
no,
we're
not
there's
not
unless
we
go
to
each
fly
and
watch
people
go
to
the
counter.
We
know
people
wreck
cars.
Obviously
we're
not
gonna
know
exactly
how
many
people
come
off
one
plane
and
go
over
in
a
car.
There's
just
no
way
for
us
to
to
gather
that
information
unless
we
call
them
from
a
plane
and
see
exactly
where
they
go
and
what
they
do.
Honestly.
So
really
we
it's
a
lot
of.
We
take
estimates
because
we
know
how
many
people
come
in.
I
We
know
how
many
cars
we
have
of
rental
cars
and
how
many
you
know,
sales
we
have
in
the
in
the
in
the
shops
and
whatever,
and
we
can
calculate
out
based
over
the
employments
and
deployments
that
we
have
so
as
far
as
that.
As
far
as
I
actually
know
exactly
you
know,
20
people
from
this
flight
rented
a
car
there's
really
no
way
for
us
for
any
airport
to
gather
that
unless
they
physically
just
follow
the
people
from
the
plane.
H
Right
yeah,
that's
that's
somewhat
of
my
concern
is
that
we
we
don't
know
if
this
is
passengers,
the
new
passengers
that
are
being
generated
by
the
advertising
that
are
doing
those
or
their
regular
passengers
that
come
anyway.
H
I
Yeah
we
know
with
our
new
passengers
because,
like
vegas
beforehand,
we
only
had
.8
people
flying
between
here
in
vegas.
Now
we
have
almost
40
people
a
day
going
so
they're,
definitely
all
new
people,
they
weren't
flying
between
palm
trees
and
vegas
before,
and
we
had
the
dot
data
to
prove
that
so
they're.
Definitely
new
people.
H
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
those
are
some.
I
would
love
to
see
a
plan
on
maybe
capturing
that
stuff
even
better
at
some
point-
and
I
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
how,
but
it
would
be
very
helpful,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
millions
of
dollars
now
that
you're
you're
recommending
for
these
types
of
programs.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
the
other
commissioners
letting
me
talk
thanks.
A
C
I
applaud
this
incentive
plan
and
I
think
it's
great
to
answer
mr
miller
on
the
tax
revenue.
All
these
people
were
taxing.
Their
residents
are
gaining
taxes
from
people
behind
the
tree,
people
that
are
coming
in
that's
all
tax
dollars
that
the
residents
are
having
to
pay.
C
C
C
I
understand
we're
delaying
all
that
planning
for
a
while,
that's
fine,
but
for
those
who
want
to
prepare
for
that,
it's
a
good
reading
to
get
some
basic
facts
of
what's
been
approved
and
what
outside
consultants
thought
my
question
for
daniel?
Is
you
talk
about
I'll?
Just
use
las
vegas
as
an
example,
I
understand
that
southwest
is
now.
I
saw
it
on
facebook
either
yesterday
or
today.
That
southwest
is
now
going
to
be
running
two
flights.
C
A
day
which
is
fantastic,
congratulations,
but
aren't
a
lot
of
those
people
on
that
plane,
transferring
to
other
cis
cities
and
south
that's
a
hub
for
southwest
and.
B
I
Right,
no,
we
didn't
do
I
didn't
count.
We
do
get
people
that
are
flying
and
connecting
on
southwestern
there,
but
they
could
have
been
connecting
say
on
different
hub
and
I
was
going
through
vegas
instead.
So
instead
I
just
use
the
origin
destination
traffic
because
we
can
prove
we
can
see
what
each
individual
city
you
can
see
what
it
was
before.
You
can
see
how
it
grew,
and
so
that's
really
the
metrics
we're
able
to
really
look
at
now.
People,
of
course,
are
getting
on
that
plane
and
connecting
they're.
I
Also,
you
know
eating
in
the
airport
and
things
like
that,
but
we
have
to
go
literally.
Probably
every
airport
in
the
country
and
it'd
probably
be
very
tedious.
I
don't
know
if
I
could
even
do
it
to
figure
out
exactly
if
we
have
just
enough
people
just
connecting
them
through
southwest
through
vegas,
you
know,
but
previously
convince
connecting
through
phoenix.
So
you
really
just
use
the
o
and
d
data
to
really
look
at
this
and
kind
of
justify,
if
you're
really
doing
well
or
not
on
it.
C
I
Yeah
yeah
and
that
that's
not
it's
that
plane's,
not
just
flying
39
people,
they
are
going
full
and
the
double
daily
starts
in
june.
So
we'll
have
twice
that
one
but
yeah.
I
know
vegas
is
definitely
a
connection
connecting
city
a
very
large
connecting
city,
so
we
definitely
have
a
lot
of
traffic
that
connects
through
vegas
as
well,
okay,
but
for
the
purposes
of
this
one
I
just
I'm
sorry
go
ahead.
Let's.
E
Just
say
ken
that
explains
why
the
number
you're
seeing
there
for
las
vegas
is
38
per
day,
there's,
obviously,
180
seats
flying
every
day
between
palm
springs
and
las
vegas,
but
the
number
that
daniel's
ascribed
to
just
people
for
flying
between
palm
springs
and
las
vegas,
or
vice
versa,
is
38.
So
that's
how
many
people
have
grown
previously.
It
was
less
than
one
person
today.
C
Thank
you
very
much
and
again,
I
suggest
commissioners
read
who
are
interested
in
infrastructure.
Read
the
master
plan
and
the
feasibility
study.
A
I
I
Need
a
note,
I
need
to
note
something
on
this
one,
the
sniff
we're
going
to
send
you
guys
earlier,
I
lost
there
was
a
mistake
on
options,
one
and
two
on
the
uncertain
airport.
Actually,
it's
supposed
to
be
thirty
thousand
marking,
which
that
is
what
was
on
what
I
presented
tonight
did
have
the
correct
one
was
emailed
the
marketing
dollars
for
the
daily
year
round,
switching
thirty
thousand
and
then
for
slide
five.
I
F
Okay,
mr
chairman,
I
just
wanted
to
add
airport
staff
intends
to
send
this
for
city
council
consideration
in
february
13th.
So
just
so,
the.
F
Yes
I'll
provide
a
report
and
then
victoria
can
present
just
a
few
updates.
I
had
a
follow-up
for
commissioner
feltman.
You
had
a
question
about
early
departures
between
six
and
seven
a.m.
Our
staff
did
look
into
that.
From
the
last
meeting.
We
looked
at
the
preceding
two
weeks
to
see
if
there
were
any
unusual
takeoffs,
we
didn't
see
anything
other
than
normal
business,
which
were
the
alaska
and
american
early
departures.
F
So
we
presume
that
weather
conditions
that
day
may
have
contributed
to
the
increase
in
noise.
That's
just
a
guess,
but
we
did
look
into
it
and
I
just
wanted
to
report
back
on
that.
F
In
terms
of
our
passenger
boarding
bridge
project,
we
completed
bridge
seven
and
it
was
turned
over
to
the
airport.
Today
we
just
got
keys
today
on
that
bridge.
It
is
an
operation.
There
are
still
a
few
punchless
items
that
need
to
be
resolved,
but
there's
nothing
significant
aerobridge.
The
contractor
that
installed
those
bridges
will
be
on
site
for
another
couple
of
weeks,
just
to
do
some
training
with
staff
on
maintaining
and
preventative
maintenance.
But
beyond
that,
we're
essentially
calling
the
project
closed.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
provide
that
update
in
terms
of
the
customer
facility
charge
increase
the
cfc
increase
that
was
originally
supposed
to
go
to
the
city
council
last
week.
F
We
wanted
to
allow
additional
time
for
public
notice
requirements,
so
we
did
that
we
moved
that
meeting
or
excuse
me
that
action
item
on
the
city
and
council
agenda
to
january
27th.
F
The
airport
still
intends
to
recommend
that
the
council
move
forward
with
a
nine
dollar
per
day,
increase
for
the
first
five
days
of
the
rental
car
contract
and
that's
to
support
the
landslide
development
of
conrack
facility.
We
did
receive
a
notice
of
a
letter
of
protest
from
enterprise.
They
are
opposing
the
nine
dollar
per
day
fee.
They
think
the
cost
is
too
high,
especially
since
the
design
of
the
facility
isn't
complete.
F
Airport
staff
is
also
moving
forward
with
negotiating
the
airport.
The
airline
use
agreement
we'll
have
a
meeting
on
that
in
february,
with
the
airlines
to
discuss
moving
from
a
residual
rate
making
methodology
to
a
hybrid
methodology.
F
We
did
bring
this
before
the
commission,
I
believe
in
2019,
under
director
nolan
and
then
more
recently
under
director
of
yuri
in
the
fall
just
to
make
sure
that
we
were
on
the
right
path.
I
believe
the
commission
at
the
time
supported
that
move,
so
we
will
be
speaking
with
the
airlines
about
moving
to
that
rate,
making
methodology
next
month.
F
And
then
the
final
thing
I
have
for
the
commission
is:
the
airport
has
received
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
5g
rollout
between
verizon
and
att.
I'm
not
sure
the
commissioners
have
received
questions.
There
have
been
a
flurry
of
developments
over
the
last
week
and
particularly
over
the
last
72
hours
with
that.
F
I
just
wanted
to
make
the
commission
aware
that
the
faa,
for
its
part,
has
approved
what
they
call
modifications
to
standards
or
alternative
methods
of
compliance
to
meet
safety
measures
for
aircraft
flying
in
and
out
of
exclusion
zones
for
5g
towers
and
really
for
palm
springs.
Those
the
5g
component
really
is
irrelevant.
F
F
B
G
All
right,
hello
again,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
present
the
concession
rfp
schedule
that
we
developed.
Everybody
should
have
gotten
a
copy
of
this
in
your
packet
there,
or
maybe
even
in
the
the
powerpoint
presentation
packet.
G
So
we
are
moving
forward
with
the
rfp
that
was
originally
developed
back
in
2019
2020.
Our
schedule
is
shown
on
the
screen
here
that
we
are
proposing
to
start
the
procurement
rfp
solicitation
process
in
june
of
this
year.
We
intend
to
have
it
out
on
the
streets
for
60
to
90
days,
and
then
we
also
intend
to
do
a
virtual
pre-proposal
meeting
with
the
community
so
that
we
could
get
the
word
out
there
and
see.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
so
we
can
do
some
back
and
forth.
G
So
we
can
entice
the
local
community
to
to
participate
and
to
see
if
they're
interested
in
soliciting
a
bid
or
submitting
a
proposal
from
the
solicitation.
G
Then
in
october
we're
going
to
do
like
our
evaluations
for
the
rfp.
We
intend
to
bring
it
to
the
airport
commission
in
november
and
then
submit
it
to
city
council
in
december
and
do
an
award
of
the
agreement
in
january
and
then
the
parities
agreement-
it
expires
april
2023.
G
So
the
anticipated
goal
of
the
new
concession
program
would
be
to
have
it
available.
No
later
than
january,
2023
many
items
have
been
prepared
from
the
prior
rfp,
so
the
airport
staff
will
be
making
updates
to
certain
documents,
such
as
the
evaluation
criteria,
the
actual
rfp
document
itself
and
doing
an
update
to
the
draft
concession
agreement.
G
The
city
staff
has
some
involvement
with
this
as
well.
They
will
be
doing
reviewing
the
architectural
approvals
and
we'll
have
legal
counsel,
that's
going
to
need
to
review
the
concession
agreement,
and
then
we
also
have
to
engage
the
faa,
since
this
rfp
is
in
an
a
time
frame
in
excess
of
five
years.
We
need
to
have
their
review
for
the
justification
of
why
we're
having
it
for
longer
than
five
years
and
what
it's
going
to
look
like
in
the
future
for
us.
G
So
does
anybody
have
any
questions
in
regards
to
the
concession
rp
schedule.
G
A
One
is:
are
you
going
to
review
the
criteria
for
selection
with
the
commission
at
a
future
meeting?
I
know
that
those
of
us
who
are
involved
in
the
first
round
saw
that
information
and
I
think
there
was
some
valuable
input
from
some
of
the
commissioners.
So
is
that
going
to
happen,
and
is
it
something
that
you
can
distribute
similar
to
what
went
into
the
package
for
people
to
take
a
look
at
and
become
familiar
with.
G
I'm
not
sure
if
that
could
be
something
that
we
can
distribute
since
this,
but
I
can
double
check
and
I
can
find
out.
A
G
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
I
can't
see
everybody.
H
Kevin,
yes,
I
was
going
to
ask:
would
it
be
valuable
to
put
together
a
subcommittee
of
the
commission
to
work
with
staff
in
evaluating
the
rfp,
and
then
the
subcommittee
and
staff
can
come
to
the
airport
commission
to
do
that?
And
then
there's
not
any
danger
of
contaminating
the
whole
commission
per
se,
but
at
least
that
the
commission's
interests
and
input
would
be
part
of
the
evaluation
process.
So
that
might
be
a
way
to
facilitate.
A
F
Yeah,
so
ulysses
at
the
time
was
very
much
in
the
opinion
that
it
wouldn't
be.
It
wouldn't
add
value
to
the
process
in
terms
of
the
selection
itself.
It
wouldn't
add
value
to
the
process.
You
know
to
form
a
subcommittee
in
terms
of
identifying
what
the
criteria
are
for
selection.
I
think
all
valuable
input
you
know
from
the
commission
is
warranted
and
we
would
certainly
accept
that
in
the
procurement
process,
but
in
terms
of
the
selection,
you
know
that
part.
B
Well,
the
this
is
john
schnitz,
it
was.
It
was
the
operations
committee
originally
that
reviewed
the
program
in
rfp,
and
I
would
say
if,
if,
if
there's
any
substantial
modification
to
the
rfp,
it
might
be
considered
prudent
to
go
back
to
the
operations
committee
or
directly
to
the
commission.
F
A
Thank
john.
I
appreciate
that
clarification.
I
do
remember
it
was
the
operations
committee
that
reviewed
this
and
and
provided
input
at
the
time.
So
what
are
we
agreeing
to
harry?
Are
you
saying
that
you
can't
you'll
make
a
presentation
to
the
whole
committee
or
send
it
to
operations,
because
the
fact
that
that
half
of
the
commissions
are
new,
I
think,
provides
an
opportunity,
and
this
this
is
one
of
our
priorities
for
2022.
A
F
Yes-
and
so
I
wasn't
here
when
it
went
to
operations
committee-
the
first
time-
so
forgive
me
for
not
knowing,
but
yes
if
we
were
to
make
any
substantive
changes,
we
would
take
it
back
to
the
operations
committee
just
to
get
the
knob
make
sure
that
we
were
okay
to
move
forward
right
now.
The
rfp
that
exists
is
the
rfp,
the
essentially
the
same
rfp
that
existed
before.
So
the
commission
has
already
seen
it
already
vetted
it
and
we
don't
intend
to
make
any
major
changes
at
this
point.
A
If
that's
the
case,
since
it's
a
public
document
or
was
a
public
document,
is
there
any?
Is
there
any
issue
with
just
sharing
that
with
all
commissioners,
especially
the
new
commissioners,
to
make
them
aware
of
what
what
was
put
together?
I
don't
think
there's
an
issue
with
that
at
all.
Okay.
A
So
let's
do
that
and
then,
if
there
are
questions
that
come
out,
we
can
address
those
questions
in
subsequent
meetings.
But
since
this
is
our
one
of
our
two
priorities,
I
think
it's
in
the
best
interest
for
us
to
do
that
and
get
everybody
on
the
same
page.
This
is
a
really
important
process
and
I'm
happy
to
see
that
the
the
timeline
for
this
is
consistent.
What
we
talked
about
earlier.
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
sticking
to
that.
A
B
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
a
question
about
the
rfp
solicitation
for
60
to
90
days
and
I
see
a
subdivision
for
the
virtual
pre-proposal
meeting
with
community.
I
wasn't
sure
if
that
was
a
presentation
or
part
of
the
solicitation,
and
also
coupled
with
that,
is
the
solicitation
going
out
to
am
I
reading
this
correctly?
Is
it
going
out
to
the
local
community.
G
Yes,
so
we're
going
to
post
it
on
planet
bids,
which
is
the
what
procurement
uses
to
solicit
rfps
we've
even
considered
posting
it
online
with
social
media
with
possibly
like
reaching
out
to
to
to
groups
we've
I've
seen
it
online
on
twitter,
peop
different
airports
will
post
it
so
that
everybody
kind
of
has
an
idea
of
what
rp
is
out
there
for
that
airport.
But
so
yes
to
answer
your
question
this,
the
virtual
pre-proposal
meeting
with
the
com
community
is
like
during
the
process
of
the
rp
solicitation.
G
So
it
would
get
posted
on
planet
bids,
and
then
we
will
do
a
virtual
meeting
with
the
community
to
discuss
that.
There's
an
rfp
out
there
that
the
airport's
trying
to
get
proposals
back-
and
this
is
when
it's
due
and
just
give
out
more
information
to
the
community.
So,
yes,.
A
Patricia
you,
may
you
may
recall
that
there
was
a
concern
in
2019
when
we
first
worked
on
this,
that
the
the
process,
the
whole
bidding
process,
was
very
complicated
and
could
lead
some
local
vendors
at
a
loss.
So
I'm
thrilled
to
see
this
is
this
there,
because
two
years
ago
the
intent
was
to
really
get
everybody
educated
about
this
process,
so
they
could
participate
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
still
part
of
it.
G
Absolutely
okay!
So
before
I
start
to
review
the
financials
ending
on
december
31st
2021
I'd
like
to
note
that
there
is
a
change
in
the
expenditures.
The
quarterly
allocations
were
not
posted
to
the
financials.
So
there's
an
added
line
item
of
an
estimated
expenses,
totaling
1.3
million
I've-
included
that
in
this
presentation-
and
you
should
have
it
in
the
presentation
that
you
have
paper
copy,
if
you
have
it
or
electronically,
but
it
should
be
in
there
all
right.
G
The
passenger
facility
charges
increased
by
approximately
736
000
when
compared
to
prior
year,
the
airport
o
m
budget
is
at
55
of
the
budgeted
22.5
million
when
comparing
the
revenue
this
time
of
year
compared
to
prior
year,
revenues
are
3.7
million
more
than
fiscal
year.
21.
below
is
the
detail
of
revenue
and
fund
415..
G
H
Victoria,
can
you
go
back
for
a
second
please?
This
is
scott
miller
sure
the
cares
act
monies.
What
has
been
decided
about
that.
H
So
do
is
it
a,
is
it
a?
Does
the
city
hold
the
funds,
or
is
it
a
reimbursement
of
the
funds,
it's
reimbursement,
so
those
monies
staff,
though
this
thus
has
not
allocated
those
funds
to
any
specific
project
or
use.
At
this
point.
H
Okay,
I
definitely
think
that
the
finance
committee
and
the
budget
committee
should
put
that
as
one
of
their
first
things
on
the
agenda
to
talk
about
that,
because
I
think
the
airport
has
a
lot
of
needs.
I
know
the
cares
act
has
certain
restrictions
of
what
those
funds
can
be
used
for,
but
I'd
actually
write
some
of
those
things
myself,
but
I
still
think
there
are
certain
projects.
H
F
And
can
I
interject
on
that
one
just
a
little
bit
sorry,
this
is
very,
I
think,
and
so,
commissioner
miller
absolutely
I
think
when
it's
time
you
all
there's
that
it
should
go
before
the
finance
and
budget
committee
for
consideration
the
issue
we're
having
right
now
with
all
of
the
grant
funds.
Who
cares
all
about
krista?
F
All
of
the
grant
funds
is
our
airport
use
agreement
with
airlines
right
now
is
worded
in
such
a
way
that
we
may
be
restricted
and
so
we're
trying
to
get
some
little
interpretation
on
that,
and
we
can
come
back
and
review
on
that
at
a
later
time.
But
right
now,
that's
part
of
the
reason
we
haven't
moved
forward
with
using
some
of
those
funds.
H
C
Can
we
add
victoria
the
cares
act
status
of
the
funds
as
an
appendix
to
this
monthly
report,
so
we
don't
have
to
ask
each
month
I've
asked
in
prior
months
about
it.
It
just
feels
like
it's
a
bucket
of
money.
That
kind
of
we
talk
about
when
we
raise
it,
but
I
think
it
should
be
an
appendix
to
this
report.
G
C
Yeah
and
it's
a
it's
a
bucket
of
money,
what's
the
what's
the
amount
of
money,
could
you
restate
that
so
when
we
say
it
is
zero,
that's
what
is
the
available
funds
if
it
were
to
be
used.
G
Yeah
5.9
million
that
budget
right
there
off
under
the
first
column,
where
it
says
fiscal
year
22
it
has
under
cares
act.
It
has
5.9
million,
almost
6
million.
That's
what's
remaining
in
the
cares.
Reimbursement
amount.
C
Yeah
great,
so
I
think
we
should
have
an
appendix
to
the
report
that
states
the
status
of
what
activities
have
been
taken
in
the
prior
month
with
regard
to
those
there's
a
there's,
an
outside
deadline
of
when
these
funds
can
no
longer
be
used.
That
should
be
stated
as
well,
so
we're
not
kind
of
just
kind
of
moving
along
each
month
without
recognition
of
what
is
that
date,
I
believe
it's
several
years
out.
G
I
actually
have
I
have
it.
I
just.
C
Because
at
some
point
it's
my
understanding
is
that
these
funds
are
for
infrastructure
projects
and
infrastructure
projects
take
time.
Obviously
you
know
that
better
than
anybody
else,
so
it's
not
like
we
can
raise
this
on.
You
know
with
320
days
to
go
and
say:
oh
we're
going
to
do
this
infrastructure
project.
There's
it's
a
it's
a
lead
time
kind
of
budget
item.
G
Okay,
now
to
take
a
look
at
the
expenditures.
The
customer
facility
and
passenger
facility
funds
have
no
change
in
expenditures
compared
to
prior
period.
G
G
G
G
Lastly,
is
the
airport's
cash
summaries
showing
the
restricted
and
airport
o
m
unrestricted
funds?
The
cash
flow
for
fund
four
or
five
is
around
25.9
million
fund.
410
is
approximately
2.1
million
fund.
415
total
unrestricted
fund
balance,
including
the
o
m
and
calpers
restricted
funds,
is
approximately
9.4
million
and
fund
416
cash
flow
is
3.8
million,
and
this
is
the
comparison
of
the
in-plane
d-plane
and
total
passengers
from
fiscal
year
22
to
fiscal
year
19.
C
Ken
I
read
someplace
or
saw
it
in
one
of
the
news
releases
that
the
airport
got
7.5
million
dollars
of
infrastructure
money.
Has
that
been
finalized?
I
guess
it
was
something
that
our
local
congressman
announced.
G
F
H
Scott
yeah,
I
think
if
we,
when
you
review
the
last
minutes
of
last
meeting,
there
were
several
items
that
were
going
to
be
brought
up
to
this
meeting
in
terms
of
contacts
with
other
commissioner,
a
list
of
commissioners
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
I
was
wondering
what
was
happening
with
that.
A
I
know
we
talked
about
harry
about
having
somebody
from
the
city
legal
department,
just
review
on
brown
act
and
those
issues.
Some
apologies,
because
we
didn't
get
that
into
the
agenda,
but
yeah.
F
I
apologize
for
not
covering
that
earlier,
so
we
did
ask
for
the
city,
clerk
and
or
the
city
attorney,
or
the
attorney
representing
the
city,
though
to
come
and
speak
with
the
commission
and
they
did
respond
and
they
said
to
communicate
to
you
all
that
they
are
working
with
the
city
council
on
clarifying
the
rules
around
communications
and
how
that's
supposed
to
work
within
the
commission.
So
essentially
they
said
standby
further
information
for
coming.
But
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
you
today.
A
I
think,
scott,
that
this
is
going
to
be
part
of
the
overall
presentation
that
they'll
that
they're
working
on
the
staff
level
about
future
commissions,
how
commissioners
play
how
commissions
play-
and
I
think
some
of
these
rules
will
be
included
in
that
as
well.
But
if,
for
some
reason,
that's
delayed,
then
we'll
go
back
to
them
and
ask
if
they
would
just
clarify
what
the
rules
are
today
and
make
sure
that's
done
at
our
next
meeting.
A
H
I
mean
it
might
be,
I
just
know
other
commissioners
from
other
commissions
and
they
operate
differently
than
our
commission,
and
so
that's
some
big
concern
and
we've
been
asking
I've
been
asking
about
this
for
the
last
three
months,
and
so
it's
a
little
frustrating
at
least
for
a
new
commissioner.
Trying
to
you
know,
work
within
the
commission
structure.
You
know,
but
I
do
know
the
brown
act.
Having
had
numerous,
you
know,
sessions
about
the
brown
act
and
working
in
local
government
for
almost
30
years.
H
So
I
you
know
so
it's
just
the
pace
is
kind
of
frustrating
and
especially
when
com
each
commissions
are
treated
differently.
So
that's
one
of
my
things,
but
what
I
would
like
to
ask
maybe
kevin
is
that
maybe
these
things
that
we
that
are
brought
up
under
this
section
by
various
commissioners
and
the
requests,
maybe
we
can
make
a
rule
that
they're
automatically
listed
in
the
next
agenda,
so
we
don't
lose
track
of
them
and
commissioners
know
that
it'll
be
addressed,
and
so
it's
not.
H
C
A
question
for
clarification
to
harry:
how
long
do
you
think
it's
going
to
take
for
the
city
attorney
to
come
back.
F
I
can't
give
an
answer
on
that
and
and
just
to
clarify
it's
the
city
attorney
city
clerk
and
the
city
council.
Working
together.
They
did
not
provide
a
timeline,
they
just
told
me,
you
know
to
essentially
communicate
to
you
all
that
they're
working
on.
C
Okay,
we
also
talked
last
time
kind
of
keying
off
of
what
commissioner
miller
said.
We
talked
about
subcommittees.
Could
we
talk
about
a
schedule
for
the
subcommittees
to
meet
and
identify
the
chairs
for
budget
ops
marketing?
Could
we
move
forward
on
that.
A
I
believe
that
chairman
dada
made
those
appointments.
We
should
probably
circulate
who's
chairing
those
subcommittees
and
who's
on
those
subcommittees.
I
know
that
john,
that
that
was
done
when
aptob
took
over.
We
could
circulate
that
again.
So
that's
the
first
thing
in
terms
of
when
these
subcommittees
are
meeting.
I
know
that
some
people
have
approached
me
about
with
the
same
question
like
do.
A
We
have
a
schedule
for
these
meetings
when
they're
going
to
be
done,
any
suggestions
harry
how
you
want
to
manage
that
and
both
both
in
terms
of
distributing
the
list.
I
think
that's
easy
enough,
because
that
was
already
done,
but
we
just
distribute
to
everybody
again,
and
but
some
of
these
folks
want
to
meet-
and
I
think
that,
what's
our
point
of
view
about
that,.
F
B
14A,
thank
you
where
we're
listing
the
upcoming
committee
meetings.
I
have
been
in
communication
with
commissioner
adams.
We
are
scheduling
a
landscape
committee
meeting
for
february
9th,
so
that
is
in
the
works.
We're
also
scheduling
a
finance
and
budget
committee
meeting.
I
believe
for
march
we're
just
trying
to
get
the
the
date
set
for
that.
C
Christina,
I
have
not
heard
from
anybody
on
that.
Can
we
talk
about
that
tomorrow?.
C
B
B
C
B
A
C
Yeah,
I
see
future
committee
meetings
just
just
that
little
as
14a
would
it
be
possible
just
who
are
the
chairs
of
him
and
then
christina
you're,
creating
the
meetings
for
members
of
that.
That
is
correct,
great
because
I
didn't
see
anything
pass
around
kevin
where
it
listed
the
people
and
who's
on
it,
etc.
I
I
could
have
missed
it
and
I
come
back
to
all
my
notes.
E
C
Sent
that
out
before
her
tenure
ended,
I.
H
So,
if
commission,
if
committee
members
want
to
contact
the
committee
chairs
and
because
we
don't
have
access
to
any
of
the
committee
chairs,
email
addresses
or
phone
numbers,
but
we
feel
that
maybe
a
committee
meeting
needs
to
be
done
and
if
two
or
three
of
the
committee
members
would
like
to
have
a
committee
member.
How
is
that
supposed
to
work.
A
Well,
first
of
all,
I
don't
see
any
reason
why
we
don't
have
contact
information
for
all
commissioners,
so
I
harry,
unless
you
disagree,
I
think
we
should
distribute
that
I've
had
the
list
of
all
the
commissioners
for
the
three
or
four
years
I've
been
around
here.
I
don't
think,
that's
an
issue.
A
So
that's
the
first
thing
we
should
get
that
out
to
you
quickly,
and
so
everybody
has
everybody's
name
and
then
what's
been
done
in
the
past,
is
that
the
committee
chairman
have
have
reached
out
to
the
subcommittee
members,
their
members
to
both
confirm
dates
and
agendas
for
these
subcommittees.
You
may
have
saw
on
the
scene,
for
example,
the
notes
from
the
noise,
the
noise
committee,
their
minutes
in
this
packet,
so
I
think
number
one
we'll
send
out
the
list
of
who's
on
what
committee
we'll
get
the
list
of.
A
Unless
you
disagree
harry
the
names
addresses
the
emails
of
all
the
commissioners.
I
don't
think
there's
any
issues
with
that.
We've
done
it
before
and
then
this
is
great,
a
great
start
christina.
Let's
just
make
sure
the
committee
chairs
fill
in
the
dates
and
let's
communicate
that
to
everybody.
So
we
know
when
we're
trying
to
have
these
subcommittee
meetings.
A
I'm
not
I'm
not
the
attorney,
but
I
can
tell
you
what
our
practice
has
been.
You
know
we
have
had
informal
conversations
around
different
issues,
we're
working
on
topics
that
are
important.
I
don't
see
any
issues
around
that
we've
done
that
in
the
past,
and
I
know
that
the
committee
chairs
have
reached
out
to
the
participants
of
the
committee
in
terms
of
scheduling
and
creating
agendas.
I
don't
think
there's
an
issue
with
that.
A
A
I
know
I
know
from
our
experience
with
the
former
chair-
that's
how
it
was
done
before
and
I'm
not
sure
if
any
of
that
violates
brown
act
at
this
point,
but
that's
how
we've
done
in
the
past
and
again
we'll
get
further
clarification,
but
I
don't
think
that
should
hold
up
our
meetings
with
the
subcommittees
and
have
the
chairs
start
to
work
on
their
committees.
F
And
so
vice
chairman
cochran,
portraying
sorry
is
your
request
for
airport
staff
to
send
that
out,
because
we
would
not
be
doing
that
without
the
city
attorney
or
the
city
clerk.
You
know
weighing
in
on
that.
A
Well,
if,
if,
if
that's
going
to
take
a
long
time,
because
I
know
they're
busy
agendas,
then
I
will
take
the
responsibility
to
put
that
list
together
and
send
it.
I
don't
want
to
add
burden
to
the
staff,
but
more
importantly,
I
don't
want
to
have
to
go.
Have
you
guys
have
to
jump
through
a
bunch
of
hoops?
If
it's
something
that
they
say?
That's
fine
do
it,
then
staff
should
do
it
if
they
come
back
and
it
just
seems
like
it's
to
be
a
lengthy
process.
A
H
Kevin
is
it
maybe
easier
for
all
the
commissioners
after
this
meeting
or
tomorrow,
to
send
you
their
contact
information,
and
then
you
can
put
that
list
together
and
then
send
it
out
to
all
of
us.
That
might
be
easier
for
you
as
well,
and
if
a
commissioner
doesn't
want
their
information
known,
then
they
don't
send
you
any
of
the
information.
A
I
will
that
that's
a
great
idea.
Thank
you
for
that.
My
address
is
kevin
at
kevin
j
corcoran.com
kevin
at
kevin
j
corcoran.
It's
like
on
my
my
thing
here.
Kevin
j
corcoran.com.
Send
me
your
contact
information.
I'm
happy
to
put
that
list
together.
A
And
again,
just
through
the
chairs,
we'll
have
a
list
of
who
they
are
and
those
of
you
who
are
chairing
committees
we'll
just
have
provide
you,
your
updates
with
christine
and
we'll
get
the
list
of
all
these
dates
and
times
out.
C
I'm
just
curious
because
of
covet.
I
get
a
lot
of
questions
around
covid
in
the
airport
harry.
What
is
the
current
position?
Vis-A-Vis
palm
springs
and
vaccine
and
boosting
for
airport
personnel
at
palm
springs
international,
and
is
there
any
change
contemplated.
F
So
I
can
tell
you
right
now:
the
current
city
policy.
There
is
no
current
city
policy
on
mandatory
vaccinations
for
personnel
or
boosting.
I
do
know
that
our
human
resources
director
is
working
on
that
with
our
labor
attorneys
to
try
and
craft
the
policy,
I'm
not
sure
what
that's
going
to
look
like,
but
right
now
there
is
no
requirement
within
the
airport
for
personnel
to
be
vaccinated.
A
Okay,
it's
approaching
seven
o'clock.
Let's
move
forward
harry
anything
on
the
report
of
the
city
council
actions
you'd
like
to
discuss.
A
The
the
airline
activity
reports
are
filed,
they're
with
us
they're
part
of
the
packet.
Any
questions
on
any
of
that.
A
Okay,
we
talked
about
the
future
committee
meetings,
we'll
make
sure
that
names
get
out
the
address
the
contact
information,
the
committee
assignments,
the
committee
chairs
and
we'll
put
all
that
out
to
we'll
get
that
out
between
harry's
team
and
mine.
We'll
see
what
happens.
Are
there
any
other
comments?
Any
other
things
that
we've
not
talked
about
that
someone
wants
to
share.
A
Okay,
I
want
to
thank
the
staff,
both
harry
victoria
and
daniel
there's,
a
lot
of
work
that
went
into
this
month's
meeting.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge,
as
other
commissioners
have,
the
the
benefit
of
having
all
these
presentations
sent
to
us
ahead
of
time
again
appreciate
that
effort,
and
it
just
gives
us,
helps
us
to
be
better
prepared
and
so
want
to
do
more
of
that,
I
know
we
made
the
commitment
to
get
the
long-term
plan
for
the
airport
to
everybody
and
encourage
all
commissioners,
especially
the
new
ones.
A
Take
a
look
at
that.
You'll
just
get
smarter
about
some
of
these
issues.
You
can
see
what
that's
been
and,
last
but
not
least,
you
know
we're
setting
our
best
to
get
to
off
top,
or
hopefully,
he'll
be
back
in
his
leadership
role.
Next
next
meeting
he
sends
his
best
and
we're
sending
our
best
back
to
him.
So
with
that,
I
think
we're
done.
Does
somebody
want
to
propose.
We
end
our
ender
session.
A
Right
good,
thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
have
a
good
month.
Look
forward
to
progress.
Moving
forward
have
a
good
night.