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C
C
All
right,
so
this
is
april
20th
at
5,
32
p.m,
and
it
is
the
monthly
meeting
of
the
sustainability
commission
here
in
the
city
of
palm
springs.
We
are
recording
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
roy.
D
Thank
you
patrick
good
evening.
Everybody,
the
april
20th
meeting
of
the
palm
springs
sustainability,
is
now
called
to
order
before
we
before
tracy.
Does
the
roll
call
I'd
like
to
announce
that
we
have
alex
o'connis
and
jake
torrance
with
us
tonight?
They
were
recently
appointed
by
the
city
council
to
be
members
of
the
commission.
In
a
few
minutes
they
will
be
sworn
in
tracy.
Will
you
do
the
roll
call?
Please.
E
A
F
B
D
Thank
you,
tracy.
Do
we
have
someone
from
the
city
clerk's
office
here
to
swear
in
alex
and
jake.
A
F
A
D
Thank
you,
monique
and
welcome
to
our
commissioners
before
I
ask
tracy
to
ask
the
guests
to
identify
themselves
I'd
like
to
ask
alex
if
they
would
speak
for
two
or
three
minutes
just
to
give
a
little
bit
about
their
background
and
what
they're
most
interested
in
in
sustainability
alex.
Would
you
go
first.
F
Sure
nice
to
meet
all
of
you
at
least
virtually
for
now.
My
name
is
alex
o'connell,
so
the
last
name
can
be
a
little
tricky.
Sometimes
typically,
it
has
a
little
tilde
over
the
end.
So
it
sounds
like
a
sound.
I
just
moved
to
palm
springs.
F
Almost
two
years
ago,
I
moved
here
from
the
state
of
montana
to
take
a
job
at
the
living,
desert,
zoo
and
gardens
where
I
work
as
their
conservation,
social
scientist,
which
means
that
I
deal
with
the
different
human
aspects
of
conservation,
politics,
economics,
just
our
belief
systems
and
how
to
best,
navigate
those
human
dimensions
and
empower
them
to
really
create
and
achieve
better
conservation
outcomes
for
wildlife
and
people
as
well,
and
I
I
mostly
grew
up
in
north
texas.
F
I
went
to
middle
school
high
school,
my
undergrad
there,
and
that
was
where
I
kind
of
took
my
first
steps
into
the
sustainability
field,
working
as
a
coordinator
for
environmental
studies
there,
where
I
did
lots
of
different
types
of
sustainability,
reporting,
greenhouse
gas
reports,
etc.
Since
then,
my
interests
have
evolved
slightly,
where,
like
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
I
focus
more
on
these
human
dimensions
of
conservation,
so
my
my
graduate
degree
is
in
resource
conservation
and
and
to
respond
to
my
interests.
F
They
mostly
revolve
around
just
that.
How
do
we
best
engage
people
in
our
solutions
and
and
really
make
sustainable
communities
that
work
best
for
everyone
involved,
and-
and
I
also
I
like
to
dabble
in
kind
of
the
education
outreach
aspects
as
things
of
things
as
well.
F
So
thank
you
for
having
me
all
here.
I
I
for
having
me
here.
I
can't
wait
to
work
with
you
all
more.
H
Yes,
also,
it's
pleasure
to
meet
you
all
virtually
today,
so
I
I
hail
from
I
I
moved
to
palm
springs
in
september
during
covid
from
san
francisco,
where
I
had
lived
for
over
20
years,
I
had
been
gradually
making
my
way
west,
where
I
grew
up
in
nebraska
omaha
and
went
to
university
in
arizona
where
I
studied
in
soil
and
water
science,
so
I'm
my
master's
in
soil
and
water
science,
with
a
focus
on
environmental
science.
Where
then,
I
spent
over
15
years
cleaning
up
contaminated
soil
and
groundwater.
H
It
was
through
that
work
that
I
then
developed
more
of
a
focus
with
sustainability,
as
I
mentioned,
layered
in
with
management,
consulting
so
finding
different
tools
and
tactics
to
drive
sustainability,
solutions
by
working
within
teams,
etc.
So
my
real
nurture
is
like
the
work
happens:
it's
not
the
what
it's
the!
How
and
working
with
individuals
teams
organizations
has
been
really
powerful.
I
currently
serve
as
the
sustainability
advisor
for
an
international
sustainability
consultancy
named
qantas,
and
I
work
there
with
multinationals
to
help
them
identify.
H
Will
we
do
corporate
footprinting,
materialities,
etc,
but
essentially
it's
using
the
science-based
targets
and
corporate
footprinting
mechanism
to
social
or
to
operationalize
sustainability
and
achieve
ambitious
targets
around
science-based
targets,
and
so
I'm
just
really
excited
to
be
collaborating
with
all
of
you
as
we
connect
with
this
community
and
it's
a
great
honor
to
be
here
and
to
work
with
you
personally,
like
my
my
special
interests
now
are
taking
beautiful
walks
in
this
gorgeous
place,
going
out
to
eat
traveling,
that's
been
obviously
put
on
pause
and
I'm
eager
to
get
that
kickback
started,
but
yeah
overall,
I
cycle
and
like
exercise
etc.
D
Thank
you,
jake
and
welcome
again
to
both
of
you.
Tracy
looks
like
we
have
some
visitors.
Could
you
ask
them
to
identify
themselves
in
their
city
or
affiliation.
A
Yes,
let's
start
with
christian,
can
you
introduce
yourself
and
let
us
know
what
organization
you're
with.
D
Absolutely
just
here
to
listen
in,
but
my
name
is
christian
bilson,
I'm
a
resident
of
desert
hot
springs
and
I'm
a
political
organizer
that
just
shifted
into
environmental,
organizing.
E
A
Climate
action
coalition
we're
currently
meeting
monthly
and
just
making
the
rounds
trying
to
build
coalitions
and
partnerships
and
stuff
like
that.
So.
A
A
So
yesterday
I
finally
decided
to
call
patrick
because
he
gave
a
really
impressive
presentation
on
the
plastic
band
to
council
last
summer,
and
so
since
then
I
started
paying
attention
to
the
city
stuff,
and
so
I
figured
well.
Let
us
just
check
you
guys
out
today.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
everything
you
do.
A
A
Hello
again,
deborah
mcgarry
30-year
resident
in
the
coachella
valley
actually
moved
here
directly
to
palm
springs
in
1988.
I
don't
live
in
palm
springs
now
I
live
actually
down
in
la
quinta,
but
I
also
work
for
socalgas,
but
I've
been
kind
of
following
some
of
the
stuff.
You
guys
have
been
working
on
definitely
interested
in
hearing
about
what
your
focuses
are
with
regards
to
hydrogen
fueling
stations.
I
think
that's
a
interesting
topic,
but
just
pretty
much
just
you
know
interested
in
some
of
the
stuff
you've
been
doing.
A
I've
had
some
conversations
with
patrick
he's
asked
for
some
information
that
I've
been
able
to
provide
him
to
our
account
executive,
but
other
than
that.
That's
it.
A
D
D
D
D
Now
we'll
move
on
to
staff
comments
by
patrick,
I
believe
all
of
them
are
covered
in
the
memo
in
the
agenda
packet,
but
patrick
will
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
some
of
them.
C
Right
thanks
roy
and
I
do
have
a
few
updates
to
what
I
had
prepared
earlier.
So
one
is
on
april
22nd.
I
will
be
doing
a
little
presentation
on
some
of
our
earth
day
related
activities
and
also
announcing
recognizing
some
of
the
neighborhoods
who
participated
in
the
the
neighborhood.
C
The
neighborhood
environmental
challenge
and
so
that'll
be
on
the
22nd.
The
other
thing
that
is
not
listed
here
on
the
22nd
is
a
presentation
and
staff
report
on
the
capital
improvement
projects
for
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
So
I
was
unaware
that
that
was
going
on
to
the
agenda,
but
roy
pointed
that
out
to
me
today,
so
that
agenda
item
is
included.
It
is
the
very
last
agenda
item
for
april
22nd.
C
My
quick
read
of
that
very
long
staff
report
is
that
there's
more
research
to
be
done
on
the
topics
that
we
care
about,
and
so
it's
a
little
unclear
to
me
that
any
decisions
will
be
made
at
that
time
in
any
major
way.
But
I
would
encourage
you
guys
to
look
at
that
staff
report
and
see
if
you
want
to
make
any
public
comments
related
to
that
staff
report
before
thursday.
C
So
the
staff
report
can
be
found
on
the
city's
website.
Palm
springs,
ca.gov,
go
to
government
and
then
go
to
council
council
upcoming
council
meetings.
C
The
other
thing
is
with
regards
to
the
may
meetings.
They
have
pushed
up
the
discussion
of
the
food
ware
ordinance
so
that
will
be
held
on
may
6th,
so
that
will
be
coming
up
at
the
next
meeting
and
then
the
other
thing
that
may
come
up
at
the
may
6th
meeting
is
the
extraordinary
rate.
Increa
increase
request
from
palm
springs
disposal
services
that,
if
we're
able
to
pull
that
together
in
time,
otherwise
it
will
move
to
the
may
27th
meeting
where
we
will
also
discuss
the
delinquent
trash
payments.
C
So
big
meetings
in
may,
I
believe
the
other
thing
I
was
going
to
just
remind
people
about
it.
If
you
haven't
already
is
the
mywaterpledge.org,
please
fill
out
that
survey
and
also
the
survey
on
organics
and
then
also
a
reminder
that
our
pedestrian
safety
surveys
will
be
closing
as
well.
So
if
you
haven't
provided
input
on
those,
please
do
so.
C
The
other
update
with
regard
to
this
information
is,
I
wanted
to
ask
commissioner
mccann
if
he
could
provide
me
with
maybe
a
little
bit
more
information
about
a
recommendation
for
a
light
meter,
and
so
so
I
can
go
out
and
take
some
measurements.
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
by
the
some
of
the
measuring
tools
that
are
out
there
and
the
what
readings
they
provide.
So
so
I
will
make
that
request.
E
Yeah,
I
noticed
that
city
council
had
asked
for
clarification
on
that
and
I
will
investigate
it
and
provide
it.
The
the
readings
that
I
took
were
from
an
app
on
my
phone,
and
the
big
issue
that
I
need
to
get
established
is
how
far
away
from
the
lighting
fixture
are
you
supposed
to
be
when
you
take
these
readings
right.
The
fine
guidelines
on
that
yeah,
but
we
need
we
need
those.
C
C
I
did
have
a
follow-up
conversation
with
a
gentleman
from
an
organization
whose
name
is
escaping
me
at
the
moment,
but
he
basically
makes
connections
between
people
who
are
interested
in
hydrogen
fueling
stations
and
the
station
developers
as
well
as
the
state,
and
so
they
are
a
public-private
partnership,
and
he
basically,
I
informed
him
that
there
had
been
some
interest
from
residents
here
in
palm
springs
about
adding
some
hydrogen
fueling
stations
in
the
city.
C
He
did
indicate
that
there
was
a
lot
of
interest
in
the
palm
springs
market
by
hydrogen
fuel,
fueling
station
development
companies,
and
essentially
he
forwarded
my
request
to
three
companies
who
may
already
have
funding
and
may
already
be
targeting
the
area.
So
I
will
provide
you
with
additional
information
as
I
get
it
on
that
front
and
I'll
keep
you
posted
on
that.
But
it
was
a
very
promising
conversation
and
the
only
thing
he
did
mention
that
is
a
little
bit.
C
Maybe
different
than
I
had
imagined
was
that
they
try
to
focus
on
existing
gas
stations,
and
so
they
prefer
to
put
the
hydrogen
fueling
stations
into
existing
gas
stations,
because
the
fill
up
time
is
similar
and
the
infrastructure
is,
is,
or
or
rather
they're,
trying
to
promote
a
more
integrated
infrastructure,
so
so
stay
tuned
for
more
information.
On
that
again,
it
sounded
kind
of
interesting.
The
timeline
for
developing
these
stations
is
pretty
long,
so
it
could
be
like
a
year
to
two
years
so
again
I'll
provide
you
with
more
information.
C
On
material,
I
provided
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions
on
what
what
was
in
the
report.
A
D
D
Limits:
okay:
it
appears
that
there
aren't
any
public
comments
so
that
we'll.
D
A
Hi,
so
this
is
hoya,
so
that
was
good
to
hear
patrick's
report
what's
coming
up
on
the
may
6th
council
agenda,
so
I
we
will
fully
support
the
plastic
woodiness.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
This
one
this
one
makes
so-called
proud.
Thank
you.
Another
thing
is
that
the
timing
is
just
perfect
because
of
sb
1383
that
requires
contamination
actually
eliminating
contamination.
So,
let's
start
with
reduction.
A
So
this
is
absolutely
a
step
towards
the
right
direction
and
another
thing:
yesterday
I
was
at
a
different
city
meeting
and
they
were
even
saying
well,
shall
we
go
to
recyclables,
I'm
like?
No?
No,
no,
no
guys!
Look
at
the
palm
springs,
it's
composter
votes.
So
another
thing
is
that
so
patrick
mentioned
for
that
council
meeting.
You
are
talking
about
the
collection
rate
raise
so
yeah.
That's
a
situation.
A
The
whole
state
is
facing
due
to
this
recycling
bills,
but
that's
really
the
very
small
cost
we
can
pay
for
climate
resiliency.
So
we
will
support
that
too.
Thank
you.
So
much.
D
It
doesn't,
it
doesn't
appear
that
way.
So
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
typically
is
presentations.
We
don't
have
any
schedule
tonight
and
then.
The
next
item
is
meeting
minutes.
Approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
for
the
march
16th
regular
commission
meeting
the
minutes
were
emailed
and
posted
on
thursday.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes.
D
Then
all
who
are
at
the
last
meeting-
please
say:
yes,
if
you
approve
the
minutes.
D
C
Tracy,
so
let
me
get
down
to
that.
C
That's
all
right,
so
we
we
just
wanted
to
provide
you
with
the
updated
numbers,
as
you
can
see,
we're
about
32,
000
reserve
or
given
out
for
sustainability,
which
is
awesome
and
recycling
we're
at
about
7
600.
C
So
we
still
have
more
room
and
more
money
to
give
away.
Should
people
be
interested,
we
are
promoting
this
more
again
with
our
water,
our
sprinkler
awareness
week,
sprinkler
tech
week,
so
we
may
get
some
businesses
who
who
follow
up
on
that
invitation.
I
wanted
to
just
point
out
one
item.
In
particular,
we
did
get
a
request
from
a
company
called
citrix.
C
They
have
a
uv
light
disinfection
system
that
they
were
inquiring
as
to
whether
or
not
people
in
businesses
could
apply
for
funding
to
help
offset
the
cost
of
the
installation
of
this
equipment.
Now,
in
the
past,
the
commission
had
not
supported
a
uv
light
disinfection
system,
but
it
was
a
more
of
a
wand
unit.
B
I
My
thought
on
this
was
that
I
couldn't
relate
it
to
energy
water,
waste
reduction
conservation,
which
I
think
are
our
primary
objectives.
So
a
kind
of
same
answer
that
I
gave
for
the
previous
unit
for
me
right.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
A
G
H
G
Don't
know
if
you're
still
responding
to
hand
raising
or
not
if
we
aren't,
please
clarify
roy,
but
the
cdc
within
the
last
two
weeks,
noted
they've
they've
studied
that
as
far
as
surface
cleaning,
it's
not
applicable
for
covid19.
G
Now,
whether
this
is
applicable
for
the
next
virus,
I
couldn't
say,
but
for
cova19
this
actually
probably
is
not
even
applicable.
All
the
wiping
down
of
the
carts
and
all
this
stuff,
apparently
is
doesn't
even
relate
to
coven
according
to
the
cdc
at
the
new
in
the
new
york
times
and
within
the
last
week
and
a
half
or
two.
C
I
don't
think
there's
any
need
all
right.
Thank
you
for
that
feedback.
So
that
was
really
the
only
item
on
that
one,
unless
you
guys
have
any
questions
about
any
of
the
money
expenditures
to.
C
Date
all
right
so
next
item
all
right.
Also
under
the
old
business
is
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory
update.
So
we
did
meet
with
the
consultant
during
the
solar
and
green
building
subcommittee
meeting
earlier
this
month
and
they
did
just
kind
of
review
the
status
of
the
reports
and
the
information
that
they
provided.
C
D
C
The
practice
is
typically
to
take
15
for
15
reduction
of
your
2010
numbers
to
get
an
updated,
1990
baseline
and
instead
of
doing
a
another
redo
of
the
1990
data,
because
it's
just
too
inaccurate
and
there
were
too
many
assumptions
that
we
need
to
be
made.
So
so
they
included
some
information
about
that,
as
well
as
the
new
baselines
that
we
would
have
based
on
adjusting
the
1990
1990
baseline.
I'm
sorry
the
new
goals
that
we
would
have
based
on
the
adjusted
1990
baseline.
So
those
revised
reports
are
included
in
the
attachments.
C
C
So
those
are
things
like
desert
community
energy,
where
we
can
point
to
very
specifically
how
many
people
are
now
on:
100,
carbon,
free
energy,
etc.
C
So
that's
what
they'll
be
doing
here
in
the
coming
week
or
two
I'd
hope
that
they
might
have
it
today,
but
they
aren't
quite
done
and
the
other
thing
is
lonnie
had
a
question
about
the
waste
related
emissions
numbers
and
it
did
prompt
me
to
remember
that
I
hadn't
gotten
from
them
the
backup
data,
so
they
actually
the
underlying
data
that
they
used
to
make
these
calculations.
C
But
we
just
want
to
double
check
to
make
sure
that
they
were
using
the
correct
data
and
and
actually
that
they
were
documenting
where
they
got
data,
because
greenhouse
gas
inventories
are
a
process
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
continue
and
update
this
process
as
we
move
forward,
so
that
additional
backup
data
is
going
to
be
important
to
us
going
forward.
So
I
wanted
to
ask
if
folks
had
any
questions
about
the
reports
all
right,
rob.
E
So
two
things
struck
me:
one
was
how
close
we
are
actually
with
their
revised
numbers
for
2018
to
the
1990
rollback
requirements.
Well,
I
mean
we're
within
the
noise
of
getting
to
496
000,
but
the
other
thing
that
really
struck
me
patrick,
was
the
steep
reductions
that
the
city
of
palm
springs
is
asking
for
in
the
next
10
years
and
is:
is
there
going
to
be
a
plan
drawn
up
to
how
to
meet
those
much
more
stringent
metrics.
C
David
friedman
will
be
doing
that
before
he
leaves
the
commission
okay,
so
I
I
think
the
answer
to
your
question
is
that
is
something
that
we
will
likely
revisit
as
we
hit
get
into
the
strategic
planning
effort
that
we
had
intended
to
start
at
the
beginning
of
this
year.
So
that's
something
that
we
need
to,
of
course
revisit,
given
the
new
data
that
we
have
so
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
what's
feasible
and
again,
because
so
much
of
those
emissions
are
transportation
related
they
it
seems
like
it.
C
It
will
be
a
real
challenge
for
us
to
get
down
to
those
levels
in
the
future,
so
we
can
continue
to
to
kind
of
tweak
around
the
edges
for
new
construction
and
and
buildings,
and
things
like
that.
But
again
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
challenge
for
us
to
get
down
to
that
level.
So
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
reevaluate
what
it
is
that
that
we're
shooting
for
okay,
so
so
yeah,
so
lonnie.
G
G
And
we
had
those
little
things
stand
up
things
on
the
table.
You
know
right
anyway,
it's
a
it's
an
exciting
report.
I
think
it's
pretty
close
to
being
done,
but
I
think
going
out
into
the
public
and
using
this,
especially
as
an
as
an
outreach
tool
is
pretty
worthless
and
the
main
reason
is
well
I'll.
Just
give
this
as
an
example,
I'm
on
the
standing
committee
on
waste
reduction
and
the
subcommittee
goal
is
to
divert
90
percent
of
waste
generated
by
the
city
of
palm
springs
from
landfill
by
2030..
F
G
Reflected
in
this
report
I
mean
no,
where
there's
one
landfill,
it's
edem
hill,
it's
been
derelict
for
years
and
years
and
years.
Let's
see
if
I
can
tell
you
how
long
I
had
that,
but
it
hasn't
been
used.
It's
a
it's
a
landfill,
it's
producing
lots
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
but
it
is
not.
One
of
that
has
been
characterized
as
being
able
to
undergo
the
flaming.
You
know
the
the
tools
that
increase
the
temperature
enough
so
that
there's
no
more
flaring
from
it.
G
In
other
words,
we
have
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
unless
they
come
up
with.
New
technology
are
what
they
are
from:
edom
hill
now
edam
hill.
Interestingly,
as
I've
talked
to
these
these
folks
before
very
nice
people,
but
edom
hill
actually
is
not
in
palm
springs
any
longer,
it's
kind
of
a
it's
a
weird
segment
of
it,
and
I
don't
even
know
how
the
geology
is
described
by
the
city
but
our
landfill.
G
Yes,
perfect,
oh,
it
turned
out
really
well
so
this
was
sent
to
me
by
riverside
county
basically
and
our
biggest
landfill,
which
is
lamb,
canyon,
and
you
see
that's
the
lowest
one.
We
have
our
some
of
our
landfill.
Solid
waste
material
is
sent
to
badlands
elsa
bronte,
but
you
see
small
amounts
and
they
they
determine
this
by
the
tickets
that
the
the
the
drivers
get
when
they
roll
it
in
so
our
by
far
and
away
our
biggest
land
landfill
is
lamb,
canyon,
and
you
see
this
was
the
most
recent.
G
G
Now,
that
is
by
far
the
largest
greenhouse
gas
emission,
that
palm
springs
delivers
to
this
planet.
There
are
other
communities
that
deliver
their
landfill
stuff
there,
but
this
is
specifically
what
palm
springs
delivers.
Why
are
they
collecting
these
numbers?
We're
not
even
using
them,
because
when
I
spoke
to
them,
they
put
this
in
some
kind
of
other
jurisdiction
which,
because
it's
in
a
geographically
different
jurisdiction-
it's
not
included.
G
G
It's
in
the
landfill,
it's
in
it's
in
the
biogas
department
and
we
can
do
all
of
the
composting
and
the
recycling
and
you
gotta
if
you
want
to
make
a
dent.
This
is
where
the
money's
at
okay,
but
so
take
that
away.
It's
still.
If
you,
if
you
don't,
you
can
still
use
this
report
and
I
would
suggest
please
don't
go
on
with
it
any
longer.
Let's
just
come
on
people.
This
is
inspiring
enough.
G
C
David
and
then
jake-
and
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
I
believe
that
that
data
is
for
tons
of
material,
that
of
waste,
that
we
send
to
those
landfills
and
that
the
emissions
calculations
are
based
on
those
shipments.
C
So
that's
one
thing:
we're
trying
to
clarify
with
our
consultant
to
make
sure
that
they
were
using
that
number
and
not
some
other
number.
So
so,
david.
I
Okay,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
vice
chair
mccann
for
raising
what
what
what
I
had
already
prepared.
I
As
my
remark
is
to
say,
what's
the
plan
and
obviously
that's
something
we're
working
on,
and
I
I
I
think
we
can,
as
I
mentioned
patrick,
will,
can
re-recycle
a
lot
of
what
we
already
did
for
the
climate
action
roadmap
can
go
into
the
staff
report
to
at
least
have
kind
of
some
directional
information
to
counsel,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
this
has
to
be
referred
to
the
general
plan,
update
and
sort
of
the
strategic
plan.
So
I
I
agree
with
you.
I
That's
clearly
my
mission
in
the
I
think,
14
months,
that
I
have
left
on
the
commission.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
I
note,
with
some
degree
of
I
don't
say,
sort
of
fear,
but
there's
a
good,
very
good
article.
In
today's
la
times,
from
our
good
friend,
sammy,
roth,
saying
that
even
the
aggressive
goals
of
40
reduction
by
2030
and
80
by
2050,
they
say
that's
not
enough,
and
actually
it
should
be
80
percent
by
2030..
So
that
kind
of
raises
the
other
question.
I
Patrick
is
that
when
you
get
the
2020
sort
of
number,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful,
horribly
scary,
but
helpful
to
work
with
place,
work
to
actually
create
a
kind
of
a
bar
graph
so
that
you
have
kind
of
the
1990
baseline.
You
know
which
is
15
below
2010.
Then
it
spikes
up
to
2010.
I
Then
additionally,
small
increases
2018,
then
hopefully
a
reduction
in
2020,
and
then
you
show
sort
of
where
we
would
need
to
go
just
assuming
the
40
by
30
and
80
by
50,
because
even
with
all
the
reductions
between
2018
and
2020,
particularly
with
dce,
the
that
that
slope
will
be
a
lot
steeper
in
the
next
10
years
and
the
next
next.
You
know
30
years.
So
even
if
we
accept
you
know
what
we
currently
have.
I
I
think
that
would
be
helpful,
because
I
think
that
graph
will
will
show
an
awful
lot
of
what
we
need
to
do.
So
we
can
work
for
that.
You
think
patrick
will
have
a
draft
for
the
committee
meeting
in
two
weeks.
That'd
be
great.
Okay,
that's
fine!
We
can
work
on
that,
be
like
and
yeah.
I
I
should
have
all
that
backup
data
too,
so
just
great
okay,
neil,
I
can
join
us
if
he's
available,
then
we
can
discuss
it
and
then
you
know
do
any
final
tweaks,
but
I
am
happy
with
sort
of
at
least
where
it
was
and
and
and
clearly
respond
to
the
comments
we
had
at
our
discussion
two
weeks
ago.
Okay,
so
that's
it
a
lot
of
work
ahead.
All
right,
jake.
H
I
just
wanted
to
offer
my
support
in
any
road
map
planning
if
there's
needed.
This
is
what
I
do
regularly
and
I
think
that
it
is
important
to
keep
these
inventories
in
mind.
Even
though
it's
not
very
sexy
or
accessible
data.
I
think
it's
really
to
avoid
any
type
of
passion,
related
projects
where
you're
really
looking
to
address
where
your
actual
emissions
are.
H
So
one
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out,
and
I
think
that
patrick
you
mentioned,
it
was
sort
of
going
into
making
sure
that
your
that
the
provider
that
is
actually
calculating
the
footprint
has
the
right
kind
of
data.
I
wondered
also
if
it
was
a
a
question
of
boundaries
where
the
city
and
what
they're
actually
qualifying
as
part
of
their
footprint,
but
I
think
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
yes,
transportation,
first
and
foremost,
is
gonna.
E
E
Yeah,
okay
and
and
lonnie
I'd
really
like
to
establish.
If,
if
we
can
right
here
right
now,
look
at
the
community
generated
waste
line
down
below
yeah,
which
has
23
090,
I
I
guess
metric
tons
emission
equivalent
or
something
how
does
where?
Where
did
that
number
come
from?
And
how
does
it
compare
to
the
number
that
you
put
up
for
lambs
canyon,
which
was
much
larger
right.
C
E
G
Does
it
compare
okay?
So
for
you're
you,
if
you
look
at,
are
you
talking
about
fertilizer
application,
natural
land?
No,
you
couldn't
be.
C
G
From
somewhere,
for
instance,
that's
a
that's
a
very
good
point:
solid
waste
they're
looking
at
former
palm
springs
landfill.
No.
E
H
You
also
have
to
consider
the
protocols
they
use
to
estimate
those
emissions
and
what
emission
factors
they
were
using
based
on
the
volumes
that
they
were
calculated
with.
So
I
would
to
add
additional
clarity
to
this.
Would
ask
the
provider
of
that
bill
of
lading
on
the
weights
to
ask
them
what
protocols
do
they
use
and
the
emission
factors
that
are
using
to
convert
that
into
metric
tons
of
co2
emissions.
G
I
spoke
to
them.
I
had
an
extra
meeting.
There
was
a
meeting
I
missed
where
they
were.
They
spoke
to
our
subcommittee
and
I
wasn't
able
to
make
it.
I
made
a
special
appointment.
I
spoke
to
them.
They.
I
can't
remember
the
name
sorry,
but
they
very
clearly
told
me
that
lamb
canyon
was
not
included
now.
I
don't
want
to
spend
too
much
time
with
these
folks,
because,
honestly,
I
want
to
get
working.
I
want
to
do
something.
I
don't.
C
Know
right
so
I
believe-
and
this
is
what
will
clarify
with
them,
but
I
believe
what
the
way
they
were
saying
is
that
that
landfill
is
not
in
palm
springs
boundary,
so
that
landfill
is
not
included,
but
the
waste
that
we,
the
waste
that
we
send
there
is
included.
So
the
waste
that
we
send
to
lance
canyon
should
be
accounted
for
in
that
that
line
that
says
community
generated
waste.
G
G
C
C
So
all
right,
any
other
question
about
those
reports.
All
right,
so
we'll
have
further
discussion,
maybe
in
the
solar
and
green
building
committee
commission
committee
meeting
when
we
get
the
2020
look
ahead
to
so
all
right.
I
think
that's
it
for
that
topic,
and
then
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
under
old
business
was
the
demonstration
garden
for
the
airport.
C
C
So
let
me
just
highlight
those
for
you
guys
and
see
if
you
have
any
questions
or
concerns
we're
basically
in
the
finalization
process
for
the
garden
itself,
especially
the
plant
layout,
and
so
that
we
can
get
into
the
construction
documents
and
and
start
to
get
some
quotes
on
what
it's
going
to
take
to
build
this.
So
basically,
where
we
are
right
now
is
here.
This
diagram
shows
you
the
updated
drawings
for
the
garden
that
have
this
meandering
path
down
the
middle.
C
It's
not
really
a
walking
path,
but
it'll
kind
of
simulate,
a
little
stream
that
goes
through
the
middle
of
the
garden
we
talked
about
most
recently,
we
talked
about
the
opportunity
for
a
public
art
sculpture
at
the
end
of
the
garden,
so
this
sculpture
would
have
to
meet
very
strict
criteria
in
terms
of
height
and
obstruction
to
make
sure
that
it
didn't
obstruct
the
the
view
into
the
airport,
as
well
as
the
view
out
to
the
mountains,
and
it
would
be
about.
C
I
think
I
think
we
estimated
about
five
six
feet
wide,
maybe
up
to
six
feet
wide
so
and
then
we
had
we'd
have
to
have
extra
pavement
around
it,
so
that
people
could
walk
around
it
based
on
ada
requirements
and
then
just
opposite
that
we
would
have
the
signage
for
the
garden
itself.
C
So
that
is
the
layout
that
we've
sort
of
zeroed
in
on,
and
the
small
group
was
supportive
of
that
idea,
and
I
have
reached
out
to
the
public
arts
commission
to
see
if
they
are
interested
in
working
with
us
on
that.
This
is
something
that
they
would
kind
of
identify
and
pay
for
and
install,
but
we
would
be
reviewers
for
that
piece
of
art.
So
so
we
talked
about
that
and
any
questions
about
that
element
and
okay.
F
C
C
F
F
A
F
C
It
does
it
accomplishes
several
things
for
us.
I
think
right
so
yep,
okay,
the
other
thing
we
talked
about
in
our
small
group,
was
and
and
actually
just
feel
free.
If
I'm,
if
I'm
not
seeing
your
hand
up
or
something
just
chime
in
so
it's,
I
can
only
see
about
six
of
you
on
my
screen
at
one
time.
So
then
the
other
thing
we
talked
about
was
signage,
and
so
we
talked
about
trying
to
figure
out
kind
of
an
appropriate
shape
to
kind
of
mirror
the
shape
of
the
airport.
C
We
will
have
sponsor
information
to
the
extent
that
we
can
get
some
sponsors
to
maybe
help
us
out
with
plantings
and
things
like
that
and
basically,
when
you
look
towards
the
garden,
this
is
what
you'll
see
it'll
be
at
an
angle
and
we're
working
on
trying
to
figure
out
the
the
appropriate
material
given
our
hot
weather.
Here
we
won't
don't
want
anybody
frying
themselves
on
the
on
the
sign
and
then
out
of
the
garden
itself.
C
We
have
these
smaller
planting
signs
where
that's,
where
we'll
get
into
information
about
the
plants
and
how
to
get
them
and
where
the,
where
they
might
be
grow
best,
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
we
wanted
to
be
informative
for
folks,
but
we
also
wanted
to
be
fairly
flexible
because
we're
not
sure
how
some
of
these
are
going
to
survive.
C
We
think
we've
made
good
choices,
but
you
never
know
out
here
and
so
we're
going
to
use
qr
codes
to
help
people
identify
and
get
more
information
on
what's
out
there,
and
so
that
gives
us
a
chance
to
modify
things.
If
we
need
to
do
that,
so
all
right
and
we're
still
working
on
things,
like
name
and
gravel
and
stuff,
like
that,
some
of
those
little
details
we're
trying
to
work
out
as
well,
but
but
basically
we're,
I
think,
we're
pretty
solid
on
the
overall
design
and
some
of
those
key
features.
G
Just
one
comment:
it's
it's
very
much
intended
to
be
kind
of
a
moving
target
because
it
is
gardening
and
it's
gardening.
In
the
desert,
it's
going
to
be
unique,
it's
very
exciting
and
a
lot
of
people
they
spend
years
and
years
and
years
here
and
they're
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
heck
you
know
there
are
only
five
plants
that
will
live
here
or
what's
the
deal
you
know,
but
then,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
it's.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
exciting.
C
Yep
all
right
super
well
thanks
guys-
and
I'm
gonna
present
this
to
this
airport
commission
tomorrow,
just
to
make
sure
that
they
are
bought
in
as
well.
I've
been
trying
to
include
them
all
along
the
way
and
so
hopefully,
no
surprises
at
the
end.
So.
C
A
Far
as
any
public
art
that
would
then
be
coming
in
from
the
different
group,
would
they
not
only
install
it,
but
would
they
also,
then
maintain
it
over
time.
C
C
They
wanted
to
make
it
clear
that
they
would
maintain
the
benches
and
and
refurbish
them
as
needed.
So
so
I
believe
that
once
they
do
the
art,
then
they
are
they're
sort
of
responsible
for
that.
B
C
We
we
are
gonna,
go
out
to
bid,
probably
in
the
next
month
or
so,
and
then
we'll
take
bids
probably
early
summer,
and
then
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
work
with
whoever
we
select
to
start
selecting
the
plants
and
reserving
them
so
that
they're
ready
to
go
in
the
fall,
which
is
when
okay,
okay,
good.
Thank
you,
which
should
work
out
really
well,
because
I
think
that
it'll
be
ugliest
in
the
time
when
it's
hottest,
so
we're
gonna.
We
gotta
kill
the
grass
in
the
summer.
C
You
know
people
not
as
many
people
are
coming
in
then
so,
hopefully,
by
the
time
october,
late
october
november,
rolls
around
we'll
have
stuff
planted
and
and
it'll
be
beautiful
when
flights
start
to
come
back.
So
thank
you.
G
C
G
G
They're
they've
got
we
have
extra,
they
we
have
extra
funding
to
take
out
all
of
the
grass
in
the
area
and
to
breed
redo
the
irrigation,
which
is
a
big
deal
and
to
make
it
low
water.
So
you
know
it's,
it's
got
it's
multi-purpose.
It's
got
a
lot
of
messaging.
C
So
I
also
just
before
we
go
on
to
the
next
item.
Roy
there's,
a
question
in
the
chat
box,
and
I
did
want
to
mention
this
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
We
do
have
a
little
bit
different
administrative
process
moving
forward.
You
saw
that
in
the
agenda
that
was
posted
where
they
divided
up
the
the
items,
and
we
typically
give
it
to
you
guys
as
a
package.
C
So
I
will
continue
to
give
it
to
you
all
as
a
package
and
we'll
have
to
figure
out
if
there
might
be
an
alternative
way
to
post
that,
but
but
we're
moving
to
a
different
format
for
most
things.
So.
D
C
Right
yeah,
it's
just
yeah.
It
just
makes
it
a
little
bit
harder
if
you're
trying
to
view
the
whole
thing
together,
but
but
yes,
the
links
are
there.
Okay,.
D
Okay,
thank
you
patrick.
He
there's
nothing
for
new
business,
so
we'll
move
now
on
to
subcommittee
and
commissioner
reports
and
the
first
is
the
standing
subcommittee
on
solar
and
green
building.
I
David
all
right,
thank
you,
lots
going
on
as
always
comprehensive
report
couple
of
highlights.
I
There
is
a
new
wind
project
going
out
not
in
the
city
limits
but
across
the
railroad
tracks,
so
they're
doing
some
public
outreach
for
that.
So
I'll
continue
to
follow
that
tracy
did
you
he
ever
hear
back
from
the
oea
folks.
On
that
case,
study.
A
Yes,
they
confirmed
receipt
of
the
article,
they
have
not
advised
of
a
date
it's
going
to
be
published,
but
it
has
been
confirmed
and
we've
had
communications
with
them.
I
Great
okay,
so
that's
good,
then
all
right
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
the
regulatory
front.
As
the
details
are
in
the
report,
there
was
a
the
energy
commission,
ld
public
scoping
meeting
on
april
9th
for
the
2022
energy
code.
Environmental
impact
report
and
public
comment
ended
yesterday
and
the
draft
eir
will
be
issued
in
early
may,
followed
by
a
40
45
day,
public
comment
period
and
its
business
meeting.
I
Last
week
on
april
14th,
the
energy
commission
referred
a
petition
submitted
by
aia,
california,
the
american
institute
of
architects,
to
add
a
set
of
renewable
energy
measures
to
the
voluntary
calgarian
appendices
to
the
pending
calgary
and
regulatory
proceeding.
There
are
now
44
pre-approved
reach
codes
covering
almost
a
third
of
the
state
population,
and
at
least
one
more
will
be
on
the
agenda
for
the
may
energy
commission
business
meeting.
I
am
starting
to
work
on
the
possible
energy
efficiency
measures
for
palm
springs
using
the
reach
codes,
cost
effectiveness
explore.
I
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
measures
that
patrick
was
alluding
to
and
he
said
I
would
be
working
on
this
and
the
objective
is
having
it
ready
for
the
may
subcommittee
meeting
green
building,
solar
and
then
then
the
commission
meeting
later
in
may.
I
The
reach
codes
team
is
asked
to
quote
me
on
an
article
on
the
explorer
in
the
next
issue
of
the
the
newsletters
of
patrick
is
that
okay
and
whether
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that,
you
can
get
back
to
me
next
week
on
that,
no
next,
tomorrow
or
whatever
I
I
sent
you
that
so
yesterday,
anyway,
you
can.
I
Let
me
know
about
that,
but
they've
asked
they're
asked
to
quote
me
as
sort
of
the
poster
kid
for
their
for
the
reach
codes
explorer
and
then
also
I've
been
asked
to
speak
on
the
panel
on
the
explorer
at
the
municipal
green
building
conference
and
expo
next
month
and
we're
waiting
to
hear
back
whether
that
panel
has
been
accepted
and
then
sb617
on
automated
solar
permitting
was
amended.
Yesterday
has
been
set
for
a
senate
committee
hearing
next
monday,
this
coming
friday
afternoon,
I'll
be
joining
seabag.
I
In
a
virtual
meeting
with
the
nrel
team,
that's
developed
the
solar
app
I'll
report
back
at
the
next
month's
committee,
commission
meetings
and
patrick.
Let
me
know
also
if
you
want
to
join
us,
but
that's
a
friday
afternoon,
so
I'm
happy
to
take
care
of
that
and
report
back.
Okay
got
it.
Okay,
you'll
hear
for
it,
it'll
be
on
the
agenda
for
the
committee
meeting,
then
all
right,
that's
it
there's
just
a
lot
going
on.
Never
a
dull
moment
up
in
sacramento.
There
is
a
build
that
also.
I
I
just
saw
an
alert
for
that
I'll
look
into
involving
solar
metering,
and
I
need
to
do
some
research
on
that,
because
that
was.
I
just
saw
a
facebook
post
a
few
hours
ago
on
that.
So
that's
it
for
at
least
on
the
on
energy,
at
green
building,
solar.
C
One
one
quick
addition
to
that
that
I
did
have
a
initial
meeting
with
our
new
city
manager
and
it
was
very
positive.
He
was
very
encouraging.
He
is
very
hands-off
and
very
supportive
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
and
in
particular
he
had
some
very
similar
observations
that
I
had
when
I
started
working
here
at
city
hall
in
terms
of
the
building
and
the
infrastructure
and
the
lights
being
on
and
the
the
water
use
and
all
this
stuff
so
anyway.
C
So
I
think
he's
totally
on
board
to
support
us
in
various
ways
to
help
us
address
our
own
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
and
energy
use,
etc.
So,
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
I
There
are
various
sort
of
projects
funding
for
municipal
building
retrofit,
so
I
kind
of
do
continue
to
do
that.
Obviously,
we
have
a
class
one
albert
frey,
historic
building
with
a
leaky
roof
on
top
of
that,
but
maybe
with
all
of
the
extra
money
the
city
council
seems
to
have
found
already
on,
so
you
can
ask
them,
since
they
seem
to
be
okay
on
the
money
side.
As
for
thursday's
council
agenda,
whether
any
of
that
could
be
devoted
to
any
capital
project
to
some
retrofits
energy
efficiency,
retrofits
for
city
hall,
yeah.
C
Okay,
so
just
a
couple
of
updates,
we
have
primarily
been
focusing
on
sb
1383,
which
culminated
in
that
presentation.
At
the
last
council
meeting.
We
continue
to
work
with
palm
street's
disposal
on
addressing
the
changes
that
need
to
be
made
to
the
franchise
agreement.
C
C
So
that's
certainly
the
big
our
big
focus
here
moving
forward,
and
I
wanted
to
also
clarify
that
the
extraordinary
rate
increase
that
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
that
may
come
up
at
the
may
6th
council
meeting
is
is
independent
of
sb.
1383
cost
increases
so
the
as
you
all
know,
the
recycling
markets
have
changed
drastically
over
the
last
few
years.
C
A
lot
of
recycling
companies
and
waste
hauling
companies
did
not
anticipate
those
costs,
and
so
they
often
are
seeking
reimbursement
for
many
of
the
increased
costs
that
they
incurred
as
a
result
of
the
changing
markets
and
transportation
costs
et
cetera,
so
that
extraordinary
rate
increase
actually
relates
to
those
fees
and
costs
and
not
1383.
Yet
so
we
are
trying
to
organize
the
information
that
goes
out
to
council
and
to
the
public
about
these
various
rate
increases
so
as
not
to
confuse
people.
C
So
we
have
yet
to
see
what
all
those
increases
mean
in
terms
of
dollars,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
our
story
clear
before
we
go
out
and
share
that.
So
so
that's
another
big
thing
that
we're
focused
on
and
then
the
other
thing
just
a
couple
of
quick
things.
We
did
finish
finalize
the
graphics
for
that
downtown,
trash
and
recycling
container
signage.
C
We
just
need
to
purchase
the
rights
to
the
pictures
and
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
print
those
up
and
put
those
around
the
city
on
the
recycling
containers
and
then
the
other
thing
was
composting.
We
had
another
meeting
of
the
composting
crew
here,
who's
been
very
active
and
interested
and
engaged
in
developing
a
community
composting
program,
the
still
it's
still
sort
of
in
the
formulation
stage
and
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
where
and
what
it's
going
to
look
like.
C
And
so
we
are
continuing
to
monitor
that
and
engage
with
that
group
and
and
lonnie
has
agreed
to
kind
of
liaise
with
them
as
they
move
forward.
So
we'll
look
to
her
into
jake.
Actually,
jake
was
on
that
call
as
well
so
look
forward
to
doing
more
with
that
in
the
future,
and
I
think.
G
The
wastewater
treatment
plan
capital
improvements
report
we
still
haven't
received,
but
it
seemed
like
you
had
an
update
on
what
on
the
next
dates
coming
up.
There
might
be
so.
C
So
yes,
finally,
yes,
so
I
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
that
agenda.
It
is
the
last
agenda
item
for
the
meeting
on
thursday
and
it
is
a
very
long
report.
So
all
right,
any
other
questions.
B
Yeah,
jim
yeah,
when
I
mentioned
before,
and
I
noticed
that
there's
a
huge
disparity
in
rates
I've
seen
in
san
francisco,
where
they're
almost
100
recycling
and
their
rates
are
almost
five
times
what
they
are
here,
and
I
mentioned
before
that
they
strongly
advocate
for
volume
based
trash
removal.
B
So
they
have
like
25,
60,
35,
65
and
90
gallon
bins,
and
the
price
goes
up
a
lot
in
the
in
the
bin
size
and
that's
something
we
don't
have,
and
it's
like
it's
a
good
way
to
to
accommodate
rate
increases
and
also
encourage,
recycle
reduction
of
waste.
So
that
might
be
something
we
would
want
to
kind
of
keep
in
our
back
pocket.
C
Yeah
that
that
is
something
that
I
encouraged
chris
to
think
about
when
they
come
back
with
their
potential
rates
for
moving
forward
great
thanks
and
we
actually
had
a
really
good
model.
I
think
oceanside
sent
us
their
information
about
how
they
calculated
their
rates
and
it's
it's
a
it's
similar,
so
it
encourages
people
in
the
right
direction.
C
D
A
We
are
going
to
be
meeting
the
environmental
education
collaborative
tomorrow
night
to
decide
what
kind
of
a
virtual
world
environment
day
celebration
we'll
have
on
june
5th
and
also
decide
a
little
bit
more
about
who
is
going
to
be
doing
the
judging
of
the
various
art
contests.
So
if
any
of
you
are
interested
in
being
judges,
let
me
know
because
it
would
be
nice
to
have
the
representation
from
the
commission
and
I
think
at
last
check
we
have
34
submissions
already.
A
A
C
A
A
I
don't
know
if
it's
another
three
weeks,
something
like
that
only
between
now
and
then
so
you
know
it's
been
blasted
out
through
both
county
offices
of
education,
and
you
know,
I've
asked
them
to
send
out
another
just
to
all
the
teachers
on
earth
day,
just
as
a
reminder
and
maybe
a
little
inspiration
on
thursday,
and
so,
if
you
need
it,
if
you
need
a
judge,
I
I'm
happy
to.
I
can
do
that.
We
do.
Thank
you,
love
to
have
you
jennifer
I'd,
be
happy.
G
A
A
I
A
C
A
C
In
doing
something
like
that
to
do
something
the
night
before
the
day
of
or.
C
C
So
so,
if
you
are,
then
what
I'll
do
is
I'll?
Let
eric
at
the
palm
springs,
cultural
center
know
and
we'll
work
on
finding
a
movie.
C
Eric
at
the
palm
springs
cultural
center
he's
the
manager
over
there.
C
That
so
I'll
I'll
do
that
just
quickly.
We
have
finished
all
of
the
virtual
walk
audits
in
that
were
conducted
by
the
consultant,
and
so
we
are
wrapping
up
the
data
collection
phase
of
this
effort.
C
So
we
are
also
going
to
be
sending
out
notices
and
reminders
to
people
that
if
they
want
to
provide
any
additional
input
on
our
pedestrian
surveys
to
do
so
before
the
end
of
the
month,
so
that
they
can
compile
all
that
data
and
start
to
work
through
and
identify
priorities
based
on
the
information
people
have
provided
and
also
accident
data.
So
the
thing
that
I
was
going
to
mention
about
that
is
is
what
I
can't
remember.
If
there
was
another
point
I
wanted
to
make
about
that,
I
think
I
don't.
C
I
don't
think
so.
We
have
had
a
really
good
response
to
the
surveys.
C
I
think
they
said
we
had
120
responses
to
date
so
far
so
which
I
think
is
actually
really
good
so
anyway,
so
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
good
data,
and
what
is
nice
about
the
data
is
that
it
appears
to
be
reinforcing
so
a
lot
of
times.
You
do
these
surveys
and
there
are
things,
are
random
all
over
the
place,
but
this
seems
to
be
very
focused
and
and
actually
zeroing
in
on
a
lot
of
the
same
problem
areas.
So
so
that's
good.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
about
that.
D
B
Most
of
what
we've
covered
is
written
up
by
in
the
staff
report
by
patrick.
Thank
you.
But
after
hearing
our
greenhouse
gas
report,
maybe
we
might
consider
converting
all
of
pumpkin
into
bicycles.
Only
something
to
think
about
the
one
other
thing
I'll
say
is
that
we
did
kind
of
defer
for
meeting
with
traffic
engineering
to
meet
with
planning
instead,
and
I
kind
of
make
sense
that
we
want
to
kind
of
get
this
on
the
planning
radar
before
we
get
the
details.
B
So
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
came
up
last
week
were
about
the
cost
and
the
feasibility
and
things
that
really
will
come
from
traffic,
and
I
was
thinking
I
could
kind
of
dig
up
some
numbers
and
some
ideas,
but
I
don't
think
my
my
grassroots
research
would
really
help
much.
So
I
think
we're
going
to
wait
to
answer
those
questions
until
after
we've
met
with
planning
and
maybe
get
some
more
information
from
from
traffic
so
other
than
that.
C
H
You
know
east
of
the
airport
and
found
that
there's
really
no
bike
route
like
I
couldn't
even
route
a
bike
path
from
where
I'm
staying
out
to
modern
dentistry,
which
is
out
where
the
lows
and
the
bed
bath
and
beyond,
and
everything
and
I've
had
to
ride
through
the
airport
in
order
to
get
there
safely
or
ride.
On
a
sidewalk,
and
I
thought
it
was
interesting
that
ramon
is
a
bit
of
this
like
dead
zone.
H
H
I
can
connect
with
you,
but
it'd,
be
great
to
see
like
what
some
of
the
plans
are
in
terms
of
making
a
more
contiguous
hiking
network,
so
that
people
can
actually
legitimately
stay
off
their
bikes
or
stay
out
of
their
cars
and
get
in
the
bikes,
which
obviously
has
a
huge
benefit
to
the
community.
In
terms
of
its
ghg
inventory,
but
so.
B
That
would
be,
that
would
be
great.
We
could
definitely
use
you
and
yeah.
There
are
some
great
bike
maps
and
once
you
get
used
to
riding
there
are
bike
trails,
they're,
just
kind
of
hidden,
you're
kind
of
getting
used
to
them,
but
and
I've
got
some
stuff
I
can
share
with
you.
But
do
we
have
contact
information
for
the
new
members,
tracy
or
patrick.
D
Okay,
thank
you
jake.
The
next
ad-hoc
is
night
sky.
E
Rob,
let's
see
the
the
the
major
development
over
the
last
month
is
david
friedman
primarily
but
not
exclusively.
I
did
revise
our
document
to
incorporate
all
of
your
suggestions
and
I
think
the
one
that
I
left
out,
which
so
so
I
need
to
do.
One
more
revision
to
it-
is
about
the
when
you're
doing
a
major
remodel
of
an
existing
property.
E
E
The
other
major
difference
in
the
document
is
that
I
discovered
that
there
is
a
model
lighting
ordinance
that
I've
been
going
off
of
that's
a
joint
collaboration
between
the
international
dark
sky
association
and
the
illuminating
engineering
society
of
north
america,
and
they
recommend
different
requirements
for
different
lighting
zones,
and
it
turns
out
those
lighting
zones
actually
map
directly
onto
the
land
use
zones
that
we
already
have
for
the
city
of
palm
springs.
E
So
I
think
we've
got
a
nice
mapping
there
that
we'll
be
able
to
use
and-
and
I
think
patrick
the
next
step
then
is
with
this
new
document
that
we
need
to
provide
it
to
city
council.
Is
that.
C
Correct
so
what
we
will
do
is
I
will
submit
it
or
give
it
to
flynn
who
will
run
the
idea
by
council
and
make
sure
that
kind
of
get
there
a
little
bit
of
informal
feedback
from
them
and
then
figure
out
how
to
deliver
it
to
them.
Okay,
very
good,
yeah
or
or
rather
how
to
get
it
to
planning
commission
so
that
they
could.
It
could
go
through
planning,
commission
and
then
on
to
council.
E
All
right,
let
me
just
throw
out
two
one
more
thing
for
our
two
new
commissioners.
E
E
F
I
Thank
you.
A
couple
of
things.
First
dwa
will
record
the
thursday's
earth
day,
webinar
with
patrick
on
the
mayor's
water
conservation
challenge
and
other
conservation
initiatives
and
they'll
post
it
on
their
website
starting
next
monday.
So
if
you
don't
get
a
chance
to
watch
it
live
10
o'clock
on
thursday
morning,
then
you
can
look
for
it
on
the
dwa
website,
under
a
virtual
so
far,
we're
in
47th
place
in
our
population
category
for
the
mayor's
challenge.
So
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
better.
Hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
do
that.
I
The
dwa
board
met
this
morning
couple
of
action
items
to
report
back
on.
They
agreed
to
increase
the
bill,
assistance
that
cr
credit
that
customers
can
receive
through
united
way
of
the
desert
to
200
per
year
and
they're
working
on
an
outreach
campaign
to
spread
the
word
and
patrick.
Perhaps
you
can
also
coordinate
with
ashley
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
you
know
that
that
information
is
available
also
on
our
on
our
website,
so
just
making
sure
that
folks
know
about
to.
I
I
So
I
did
give
them
an
update
this
morning
at
the
board
meeting
and
thank
them
for
their
assistance
and,
of
course,
also
thank
them
for
doing
the
webinar
on
thursday,
with
patrick
and
then
finally,
dwa
and
his
customers
achieves
an
11
reduction
in
metered
potable
water
consumption
during
the
month
of
march
2021,
compared
to
the
same
month
in
the
2013
baseline
year,
and
that's
right
in
the
middle
of
their
target
of
10
to
13
reduction.
That
target
may
move
when
they
get
the
state
numbers
part
of
the
water
conservation
requirements.
C
So
just
a
couple
of
additions,
so
in
addition
to
talking
about
the
mayor's
water
pledge,
which
will
be
like
two
seconds
on
that
webinar
we're
also
talking
about
the
sprinkler
check
week
that
we're
promoting
the
last
week
in
april,
we're
gonna
get
out
our
social
media
stuff.
Here
shortly,
I've
worked
with
denise
to
get
it
out
to
all
the
neighborhood
organizations
and
also
we're
running
radio
ads
on
spanish
and
english
stations
next
week.
C
So
it's
really
just
an
effort
to
get
people
more
aware
of
their
sprinkler
situation
and
to
take
a
look
at
their
irrigation
system
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
have
big
leaks
and
are
adjusting
sprays
so
that
they're,
not
spraying
concrete
and
so
anyway.
So
hopefully
it'll
raise
a
little
bit
of
awareness
and
then
next
and
then
in
the
fall
we'll
do
it
again
because
everybody
changes
their
schedules
in
the
spring
and
fall.
C
C
I
also
wanted
to
mention
that
I
have
requested
that
the
city
start
to
set
aside
funding
from
the
general
fund
to
fund
turf
conversion
efforts
and
water
efficiency
efforts
across
the
city.
So
I
think
we
need
to
be
much
more
strategic
about
that
and
have
a
set
pot
of
money
set
aside
so
that
we
can
do
projects
every
year,
as
opposed
to
once
in
a
while,
like
the
one
we're
doing
at
the
demonstr
at
the
airport.
C
So
I
think
that
the
airport
should
also
do
the
same
thing
and
set
aside
some
of
their
budget
because
they
got
a
ton
of
grass
over
there
so
anyway.
So
I
think
that
this
these
next
few
months,
in
particular
with
talk
of
drought,
we
are
going
to
be
more
scrutinized
than
normal
for
our
activities.
In
addition
to
trying
to
get
the
word
out
to
other
other
people
to
do
things
as
well,
so
so
that
I
just
want
to
mention
those
things.
I
Patrick
several
years
ago
and
I've
lost
track,
but
stacy
would
know
this.
We
had
discussed
a
project
at
victoria
park
and
I'm
not
sure,
there's
sort
of
extra
grass
there
that
can
be
converted
into
desertscaping,
and
you
know
the
airport
garden
kind
of
took
priority,
but
that's
also
on
the
list
of
of
additional
areas.
C
I
And,
and
also
I
want
to
put
in
a
plug
for
the
leaked
leak
device
that
that
is
recommended,
I've
had
it
it's
very
accurate
and
it's
been
really
sort
of
changes.
How
I
measure
things.
I
now
know
exactly
how
many
gallons
are
going
when
I've
got
the
system
running,
and
so
I've
been
able
to
reduce
my
water
consumption.
I
So
I
think
ashley
will
mention
that
as
well,
but
I've
been
using
it
since
I
had
my
leak
in
january
and
it's
very
very
good
and
will
pay
for
itself
quickly.
Good.
H
G
Okay,
the
first
thing
I
do
is
I
would
look
at
your
bill
online
on
both
sides
of
that
page
and
in
the
last
well,
during
the
last
round.
They
did
a
lot
of
work
because
of
you
know
public
pressure
to
define
exactly
what
your
water
usage
has
been
and
they've
got
a
little
bit
of
a
different
calculus
now,
but
it
still
basically
works
and
you
can
actually
see
how
much
you're
using
catch
the
leaks
and
whatnot,
but
on
the
back
they're
having
a
lot
of
like
webinars.
G
This
is
this:
is
the
dwa
they're
very
active
they
the
webinars
and
then
on
the
back
of
that
every
month?
There's
a
whole
lot
of
information
that
comes
out
and
you
can
go
to
the
website.
They
want
you
to
report,
you
know
when
there's
a
big
leak.
I
want
you
to
report
that
and
there's
some
you
know
numbers
that
you
can
call
and
whatnot.
I
To
so
the
actually
vwa
does
have
a
recycled
water
plant.
The
challenge-
and
unfortunately
I
look
at
it
every
day-
is
that
they
have
now
more
recycled
water
than
they
use.
One
of
the
largest
consumers
of
the
water
is
the.
What
you
can
see
literally
in
my
background,
is
the
indian
canyons
golf
course,
and
they
were
one
of
the
original
users
and
pipes
were
extended
out
literally
in
front
of
my
house,
to
get
to
the
golf
course
and
the
tribe,
of
course,
the
decision
of
tribal
sovereignty.
I
They
decided
to
no
longer
use
the
recycled
water
program
and,
I
believe,
are
just
using
essentially
well
water,
so
there's
actually
more
recycled
water,
so
dwa
is
kind
of
on
it.
I
actually
asked
them
to
look
into
working
with
residents,
so
I
would
love
particularly
since
the
pipe
is
in
front
of
my
house.
I
told
them.
I
personally
would
love
to
you
know
and
I'll
pay
for
it
to
have
a
connection
to
get
recycled
water.
I
For
my
for
my
rather
extensive
irrigation
system,
because
I
use
a
lot
of
water
to
grow
my
food,
so
you
know
we'll
see
what
happens
so.
There
aren't
purple
pipes,
but
there
there
aren't
purple
pipes
in
the
houses,
but
the
sewage
basically
goes
in
to
the
city
secondary
system
and
then
into
the
tertiary
system
for
dwa,
and
they
do
recycle
it.
So
we
have
it.
We
actually
need
more
uses
for
it
than
we
have.
G
Bonnie
fyi
75
of
the
water
that's
treated
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
ends
up.
It
is
recycled
water,
it's
sent
back
to
the
dwa
75,
but
then
they
had
a
bunch
of
chemicals
and
stuff
they
do
and
then
they
still
put
it
on
the
grass
at
the
top
of
its
golf
course.
G
A
Hi,
the
human
rights
camp
human
rights
commission
met
two
weeks
ago
and
they
just
had
one
question
and
I
spoke
to
you
already
about
roy.
They
want
to.
C
Know
if
back
then,
mayor
coors
has
spoken
to
the
restaurant.
A
I
Okay,
dwa
board
met
yesterday
and,
as
patrick
noted
in
the
staff
report,
city
council
had
considered
possible
changes
to
to
the
dce's
renewable
content,
as
well
as
suspending
the
carbon
free
program
for
karen
fira
customers.
So
they
did
take
action
in
line
with
the
city
council
recommendation.
I
A
carbon
free
will
be
suspended
for
care
for
airfare
they'll
just
get
the
the
state
requirement,
which
is
currently
35.75
renewable
content,
and
that
will
also
be
the
same
for
carbon
free,
and
these
are
hopefully
temporary
measures
to
allow
dce
to
keep
its
finances
stabilized
over
the
next
couple
of
years,
because
they're
dealing
with
rather
substantial
power
price
increases
as
a
result
of
the
market
instability
from
both
what
we
saw
in
california
and
around
labor
day
and
then
also
more
recently
in
texas.
I
The
board
also
approved
a
support
letter
on
sb
612,
which
patrick
mentioned
also
in
its
staff
report,
and
that
would
require
the
investor
owned
utilities
to
essentially
share
the
legacy
renewable
resources
that
they
have
and
that'll
be
also
on
the
council
agenda
for
for
thursday
and
then.
Finally,
the
new
terragen
wind
project
within
the
city
limits
will
begin
operation.
I
The
next
few
days
and
some
photos
from
the
ppa
signing
ceremony
in
february
and
also
information
on
dc's
energy
and
cost
savings
in
its
first
year
of
operation,
are
in
a
couple
of
slides
that
were
done
for
the
board
meeting,
so
patrick
and
tracy
maybe
can
just
circulate
those
tomorrow
to
the
commissioners
and-
and
thank
you,
commissioner,
thank
you
there.
You
are
on
my
grid
for
for
a
very
productive
working
group
meeting
and,
of
course,
landing.
I,
commissioner
miller,
I
don't
think
you
were
at
the
last
meeting.
D
Okay,
so
now
we're
at
the
last
item
on
the
agenda
and
that's
commissioner
comments
and
upcoming
agenda
and
for
our
new
commissioners
just
a
brief
explanation.
We
do
this
at
the
end
of
every
meeting.
We
go
around
the
virtual
table
and
ask
each
commissioner
if
he
or
she
has
any
additional
comments
to
make
or
any
suggestions
for
the
agenda
for
the
meeting
in
the
following
month.
E
Yeah,
a
quick
comment
that
I
want
to
direct
and
primarily
to
to
our
new
commissioner,
alex
because
you
have
a
conservationist
background
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if
hoya,
nip
and
devin
mcgarry
are
still
on,
if
you
are
one
of
you
is
a
is
a
member
of
friends
of
the
desert
and
the
other
one
is
a
member
of
the
sierra
club.
So
my
point
is
the
the
other
hat
I
wear
these
days
is
a
board
member
of
oswald
land
trust.
E
The
the
local
group
is
trying
to
save
land
all
over
the
place
and
prevent
development
of
open
space.
So
I
encourage
you
all
to
to
get
involved
in
in
our
group
and
and
help
us
do
it.
We
we
need
all
the
help
we
can
get
david.
It
may
even
that
this
could
even
fit
into.
E
I
was
thinking
earlier
tonight
if
there
these
these
drastic
reductions
that
we're
going
to
try
to
achieve
in
carbon
emissions,
surely
preserving
and
saving
open
land
and
saving
it
from
development
could
play
a
role
in
that
that's.
A
I've
got
a
7
a.m:
phone
interview
with
erin
brockovich
for
a
piece
she's
working
on
in
her
newsletter
and
any
input
before
that
meeting
are
specific
to
the
city.
We're
discussing
an
impact
on
individuals
in
my
business,
but
she's
also
aware
that
I'm
on
this
commission
and
she
is
in
new
york
now
because
of
the
new
tv
show.
A
But
she
lives
here
in
the
desert
now
and
she's
very
concerned
about
the
use
of
roundup
and
similar
classifications
of
dangerous
poisons
so
any
input,
and
also
my
understanding,
patrick
if
I'm
practiced
that
the
city
of
palm
springs
does
not
allow
that
for
their
workers
or
on
their
on
their
property.
A
All
right,
so
any
any
input.
Let
me
know
it's
an
early
morning
call
and
she
would
really
like
to
get
active
in
the
coachella
valley.
With
this
issue,
I
think
would
be
great.
D
F
I
did
have
a
quick
question,
thank
you.
Maybe
for
patrick
I'm,
just
I'm
showing
my
cards
here.
I
have
a
soft
spot
for
monarch,
butterflies
and
I
was
just
wondering
I
saw
it
on
the
agenda,
the
monarch
mayor's
pledge.
I
was
just
wondering
if
you've
finalized
your
pledge
items
for
that,
yet
or
or
what
what
that's
looking
like
for
palm
springs.
C
Actually,
it's
on
my
to-do
list,
tracy
drafted
something
and
we're
gonna,
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
what
to
submit
I'm
happy
to
share
it
with
you.
If
you
would
like.
F
A
F
To
share
just
ideas,
but
I
love
that
palm
springs
is
signing
on.
That's
that's
amazing.
We'll
have
a
whole
corridor
going
down
coachella
valley,
hopefully
one
day.
D
And
alex
there's
a
another
group
in
palm
springs
called
milkweed
for
monarchs.
That's
been
active
over
a
couple
of
years,
and
I
can
show
you
some
information
about
what
that
group
has
done
as
well.
F
I
Okay,
true
clark
did
I
I
think
you
may
have
skipped
over
me.
Oh
I'm
sorry
yeah,
very
briefly,
no
no
agenda
items,
but
I
did
one
of
which
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
do
in
green
building
solar
to
welcome
our
two
new
commissioners
and
then
patrick.
When
I
send
you
the
agenda,
you
can
circulate
it
also
to
our
team
commissioners
and
we
meet
on
the
sec.
I
I
mean
the
first
tuesday
of
the
month
at
10,
30,
virtually
maybe
one
day,
it'll
be
back
to
being
in
first
meetings
but
low
carbon
footprint,
zoom
meetings.
So
are
you
welcome
to
join
us
and
kind
of
have
an
idea
of
all
the
things
we're
we're
looking
at,
but
very
heavily
kind
of
regulatory
focuses
a
lot
of
what
we're
doing
given,
there's
so
much
state
policy
being
made
in
this
area.