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C
G
E
C
F
E
Thank
you.
So
this
is
a
public
meeting
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue.
That's
within
this
committee's
purview.
If
you
would
like
to
make
a
comment
on
a
case,
that's
already
on
the
agenda,
you
can
wait
until
the
case
is
being
brought
forward
best.
Anyone
in
the
audience
have
any
comment
that
is
not
on
today's
agenda.
Okay,
seeing
none
we'll
proceed
to
a
set
in
the
agenda.
H
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members.
So
the
exhibit
I
just
pass
out
to
you
was
received
from
the
applicant
after
the
agenda
is
published,
but
essentially
what
it
is
is
it's
additional
exhibits
showing
the
location
of
the
tenant
space
as
well
as
the
storefront
design,
so
there's
also
a
rendering
is
as
to
how
it
would
appear
within
the
elevation.
So
those
livets
are
also
posted
behind
me
on
the
wall.
H
But
what
this
application
is
is
when
the
Block
B
building
to
start
building
located
at
175,
North,
Palm,
Canyon
Drive,
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
Planning
Commission
condition
the
project
that
all
individual
storefronts
be
reviewed
by
the
AAC
prior
to
construction
permits
be
an
issue.
So
what
they've
done
is
proposed,
basically
new
doors
and
Center
the
doors
within
that
storefront
area,
a
framed
area
there
and
then
they're,
proposing
a
transom
glass
window
along
the
storefront,
and
so
let's
so
the
elevations
show
some
of
the
colors
that
are
being
proposed.
G
C
I
C
J
K
Just
a
couple
things:
a
clarification
from
the
package
to
what
we
just
received.
It
looks
like
in
the
upper
transom
that
you're
adjusting
the
mo
Lian's
so
that
they're
at
a
more
they're
at
an
equal
spacing
as
opposed
to
what
was
originally
submitted,
which
the
original
looks
looks
like
from
the
original
elevations.
The
doors
were
below
this
wider
panel,
the.
J
Original
ocation
the
door
was
set
to
the
left,
and
the
tenant
basically
wants
to
have
a
different
store
experience
when
the
customer
walks
into
the
store
they
walk
in
the
middle
of
the
store
not
coming
in
from
the
side
way,
that's
how
they
organize
it,
and
then
they
wanted
to
have
the
millions
adjust
it.
This
way.
Okay,.
J
K
C
E
B
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
ALC,
so
the
application
you
have
before
you
now
is
a
request
by
Palm
Springs
access
to
establish
a
medical
cannabis
cultivation
facility
that
will
be
located
at
the
northern
part
of
the
city,
and
specifically,
the
site
is
zoned
E
as
energy
industrial,
practically
it's
in
the
middle
of
nowhere
and
all
the
way
down
to
the
end
of
16th
Street.
There
is
a
vacant
property
that
is
surrounded
by
wind
farms
and
energy
related
uses
there.
B
So
that's
where
the
site
has
been
located
on
the
side
itself,
there
will
be
no
actual
building
bought
a
prefab
greenhouse
facility,
that
is
approximately
36,000
square
foot
in
size,
and
there
will
be
an
a
an
office,
a
modular
office
building
that
will
be
there.
Also
there
will
be
other
items
relative
to
the
use.
So,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
staff
report,
there
would
be
no
actual
building
other
than
these
prefab
installations
that
will
be
transported
to
the
side.
B
Looking
at
and
reviewing
the
application
in
general,
the
only
issue
that
staff
has
is
the
lack
of
firm
landscape
and
as
modified
the
applicant
is
proposing
that
the
city
with
the
requirement
of
landscape
and
going
through
the
staff
report
and
reviewing
development
in
the
entire
area.
You
will
see
that
because
of
the
arid
conditions
in
the
area,
the
possibility
of
landscaping
succeed
in
that
area
is
very
remote
and
over
the
past,
the
planning
Kong
China,
the
City
Council,
has
with
the
requirements
of
landscape
in
that
area.
B
B
B
So
those
are
the
color
chips
and
also
I
have
a
other
parts
of
the.
This
would
be
the
the
wall.
The
other
part
of
the
greenhouse
facility
itself
right
here
and
this
material
will
be
used
as
a
roofing
material.
So
we
are
recommending
approval
to
the
Planning
Commission
of
this
item.
It
is
a
major
architectural
application,
but
it
will
be
going
back
to
Planning
Commission
for
the
final
approval
the
applicant
is
here.
There
are
any
questions
and
staff
is
available
to
answer
any
other
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
G
L
L
E
L
E
And
also
is
best
for
energy
usage.
Could
I
ask
you
on
the
on
the
building
itself,
because
on
your
package
of
information
for
the
shipping
container
storage
that
you
have
have
you
considered
doing
the
office
building
out
of
the
shipping
container
so
that
we
don't
have
three
different
type
of
milling
types?
We
have
only
two
type
I.
E
L
E
L
L
On
number
four
sorry,
cyclin
PDF
number
four.
L
L
You
can
see
that
there
are
entrances
into
what
our
hallways
that
go
on,
there's
perimeter
hallways
on
the
entire
facility
inside
and
then
the
refrigerated
containers
on
the
end,
if
there's
an
entryway
that
goes
into
those
directly
because
you
don't
want
to
be
taking
the
plants
out
into
the
heat,
the
wilt
and
then
the
the
product
won't
be
viable
at
that
point.
So
there
are
hot
hallways
on
both
sides
and.
L
L
L
L
G
C
E
M
B
L
M
I,
don't
have
too
much
concern
with
landscape
I
mean
oh
city
really
was
unfortunate.
I
think
it
could
be
done.
You
know
that
was
the
case.
I,
don't
think
he
bring
any
kind
of
inert
materials
to
lay
on
the
ground
because
it
won't
last
I
think
if
it
would
be
taking
a
cue
from
what
survives
out
there
and
embellishing
it
to
some
degree.
I
think
that's
as
far
as
you
could
probably
go.
C
A
M
I
there's
a
fine
line
of
using
the
natural
that
survived
in
its
feasible
approach
to
landscape
and
a
sense
that
it
was
improved
from
aesthetic
landscape
point
of
view,
so
Korea
so
would
work
good,
obviously
palms,
probably
wouldn't
I'd,
probably
be
a
design
that
would
would
probably
play
off
some
inert
materials
or
boulders
of
some
sort
and
and
probably
lack
of
anything
else.
I
can
think
of
creosote.
J
A
Yeah
I
had
a
conversation
to
an
opportunity
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
applicant
about
recommending
kind
of
materials.
He
makes
sure
and
bring
trail
sports.
That
sort
of
thing.
If
he
asked
me
about
landscaping
and
I,
said
well,
I'm,
not
the
landscaping
expert,
but
I'm
sure
Randy
will
tell
us.
But
if
you
drive
out
there
there's
more.
A
M
M
C
K
E
I
think
that
as
far
as
the
building
and
the
site
and
the
project
is
being
presented,
it
is
what
it
is
is
being
presented
in
front
of
us.
I
think
two
concerns
I
would
have.
Is
that
it's
more
about
the
package
information
of
additional
sidewalk
or
access
that
needs
to
be
submitted
to
the
staff
so
that
the
staff
knows
how
the
site
really
works
as
far
as
I
think
the
design
of
green
house
and
the
type
of
material
they're
looking
for
something
to
speed
up
the
process
of
construction?
G
Comment
and
we
can
continue
to
discuss
it,
but
as
architects
we
have
to
evaluate
it
and
I
understand
the
industrial
nature
of
the
greenhouse
and
I'm
perfectly
fine,
with
greenhouse
being
what
it
is.
It's
almost
a
piece
of
machinery
yep
the
office
building
I
think
could
certainly
be
improved
somehow
because
normally,
if
you
have
a
structure
that
is
this
nondescript
landscape
can
help
right.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
something
that
can
be
done
with
CMU
walls
or
something
just
to
give
it
a
little
more
layering.
G
C
C
D
D
I
think
that
that
might
benefit
the
project
and
especially
in
lieu
of
being
able
to
do
much
with
landscape
and
enhance
what
this
project
looks
like
I
think
I'd
see
that
as
an
opportunity,
and
it
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
completely
clad,
but
I
think
some
portion
of
it
or
something
could
be
designed
and
be
used
as
a
treatment
over
this
typically
mobile,
or
something
like
that
type
of
structure.
So
I.
E
D
M
M
M
E
I
mean
the
one
we're
talkin
I.
There
are
several
ways
we
can
ask
to
for
this
challenge
to
be
resolved,
which
is
one
is,
you
could
leave
the
building,
but
as
Randy
was
mentioned,
if
the
landscape
is
composed
and
designed
around
the
project
that
it
would
screen
break
away
from
the
simplicity
of
the
modular
building,.
M
Even
the
project
entry
could
have
a
hint
of
some
architecture
out
there
and
if
there
was
some
wind
screening
and
there's
some
area
for
you
know
it's
not
windy,
24/7
365
days
of
what
year.
So
if
there
was
some
delineation
of
outdoor
space,
that
was
employee
or
you
know,
pedestrian
use,
it
could
be,
and
it
was
screened
from
prevailing
when
it
could
have
some
planting.
A
Personally,
I
think
I'd
lean
more
towards
trying
to
enhance
it,
architectural
II
than
trying
to
do
something
with
what
I'm
hearing
about
the
landscape
just
kind
of
makes,
it
seem
a
little
difficult
to
achieve
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
with
landscape.
So
I
would
I,
wouldn't
be
more
supportive
of
suggesting
some
more
architectural
enhancement
over
landscape
I.
K
A
M
E
But
I
think
that
we
should.
We
should
provide
the
option
to
the
applicant
to
say:
okay,
can
you
come
back
with
a
site
design
that
is
in
composition
with
the
building,
or
could
you
come
back
with
a
design
of
the
modular
building
that
is
more
in
liking
of
the
language
of
the
greenhouse,
as
well
as
the
other
buildings.
K
But
also
when
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
the
location
I,
just
wonder
about
the
location
of
the
modular
office
building
in
terms
of
accessing
the
green
house,
it
seems
like
the
green
house
entries
are
on
each
of
the
long
sides
and
you
got
a
long
way
to
go
from
the
office
going
into
the
green
house.
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
the
operation
works,
but
there's
got
to
be
some
sort
of
connection
everything
between
the
office
and
the
green
house,
and
this
doesn't
seem
like
it's
optimal.
K
Can
we
I
don't
know
whether
he
needs
approval
for
the
green
house
or
not,
but
I
would
say.
Let
me
ask
us
a
question:
can
we
approve
the
green
house
and
come
back
and
have
him
to
ask
him
to
come
back
to
review
the
site
plan
and
the
amount
of
modular
office
the
mobile
office
kind
of
tied
together?
It's.
E
C
A
It
make
sense,
I
mean
I,
have
no
idea
what
kind
of
timeline
the
applicant
is
on,
but
I
want
to
be
sensitive
to
that
as
well.
Would
it
make
sense
to
approve
it
with
recommendations
or
conditions
that
go
to
planning?
We
have
several
former
members
of
AAC
on
planning
with
our
comments
might
be
able
to
take
it
and
run
with
it.
How
strongly
do
we
feel
about
that
about
those
changes?
That
would
be
my
question,
but.
C
B
No,
if
you
are
recommend,
if
you
make
recommended
conditions
that
will
be
presented
at
the
Planning
Commission,
so,
for
instance,
if
you
are
approving
with
conditions,
we
will
have
to
justify
the
de
Planning
Commission
that
those
conditions
will
be
met
by
the
Africa
so,
and
there
are
several
mechanisms
to
to
check
that
number
one.
You
can
have
a
subcommittee
to
review
that
or
Atlanta
who
staff
will
make
sure
that
those
conditions
I
had
been
met
before
my
check
can
be
approved.
Okay,.
F
K
E
E
B
In
2006,
the
Planning
Commission
did
approve
a
similar
project
at
the
site,
but
due
to
some
to
economic
downturn,
the
applicant
wasn't
able
to
proceed
with
the
project
at
that
time
they
did
apply
for
time
extensions,
but
in
the
end
the
entailment
expired,
and
so
they
are
back
with
another
application,
and
this
side
is
on
a
hillside,
passive
and
that's
why
it's
before
you
it
is.
The
location
is
zoned
r1
a
and
the
the
structure
itself
will
be
3495
square
foot
in
size.
The
lot
size
is
approximately
13,000
and
30
square
foot.
B
The
proposal
does
meet
all
the
required
are
1a
standards
in
terms
of
height
and
setbacks.
So
again,
as
with
the
last
project,
one
of
the
issues
that
stoppages
is
in
landscaping
staff
believes
that
more
there
could
be
adequate
shading
trees
and
other
grant
covers
as
part
of
the
landscaping.
Although
we
are
recommending
approval
with
that
condition,
the
applicant
is
here
to
give
more
representation
or
entire
question
and
staff
is
also
available
to
answer
your
question.
Thank
you.
B
I
do
have
some
of
the
exhibits
on
the
wall
and
all
the
other
components
of
the
the
project
are
in
your
package.
I
also
have
the
material
board
below
the
exhibits
on
the
board.
For
you,
we
have
the
elevations
the
sidelines
and
the
rendering
of
the
proposal
that
will
conclude
my
staff
report.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
E
E
E
E
K
C
E
K
Actually,
the
owner
is
an
architect
and
this
is
his
design,
so
he
wanted.
Instead
of
orienting
most
people
orient
the
orient
the
house.
You
know
180
degrees,
so
they're
looking
down
valley,
but
he
wanted
to
be
looking
in
this
other
direction,
and
this
was
the
most
efficient
way,
I
suppose
of
getting
into
the
house
and
utilizing
the
side
yard.
E
One
one
more
question:
I
just
limit
myself
to
one
question:
okay,
when
it
comes
to
your
window,
frames,
is
a
vinyl
frame.
Oh
no,.
K
E
Clear:
okay,
all
right
other
questions
for
the
offered
member
Susan
hi.
G
K
G
K
G
K
G
K
K
K
C
K
E
C
F
K
The
east,
no,
that's,
that's
a
there's
a
horse
trail
that
goes
through
there
and
it's.
If
you
win
looked
at
the
site,
you
would
see
nothing
but
boulders
piled
high
and
just
with
the
house
like
the
house
of
North,
which
I
also
worked
on,
they
allowed
that
to
be
the
wall
for
the
boundary
where
actually
in
their
case,
because
the
pool
is
there
in
this
case
we
don't
really
need
a
wall
per
se.
K
F
E
K
K
To
well
actually.
C
E
C
E
A
C
A
A
A
I
can
appreciate
the
xeriscape
and
wanting
to
wanting
to
spend
some
time
there
before
deciding
what
landscape
to
add.
But
if
I
were
one
of
the
neighbors
I
would
also
appreciate
the
requirement
that
they
put
some
landscaping
in
in
the
beginning,
because
it
may
never
appear
so.
I
would
definitely
be
supportive
of
the
application
as
it
is,
but
would
suggest
requiring
some
additional
landscape
from
the
beginning.
A
D
I
agree
with
the
landscape
comment:
I
think
that
we
should
not
to
fuss
about
the
architecture
of
the
house,
but
but
I
feel
like
the
architecture
of
the
site,
block
walls
in
the
landscape
view.
We
need
a
realistic
landscape
plan
that
this
this
just
doesn't
comply
with
what's
required,
so
you
should
come
back
without
okay.
E
C
E
C
A
M
F
D
E
C
M
E
H
H
H
K
H
H
So
what
I
also
did
today,
so
you
had
a
sense
of
what
the
ladders
are.
What
where
you
would
see
the
ladders
was
I,
went
out
to
the
site
and
took
some
pictures
from
various
vantage
points
around
the
building.
So
this
is
the
North
elevation
that
you
have
in
your
packet.
That
shows
the
ladder
that
extends
above
that
the
two-story
element
on
HSN
building,
and
then
this
is
standing
in
front
of
the
greek
island
restaurant,
which
is
just
south
of
andreas,
on
the
east
side
of
palm
canyon.
H
H
So,
when
you're
looking
at
it
from
this
vantage
point,
this,
what
you
see
is
the
again
the
tommy
bahama
we're
flying
and
then
above
that
you
see
a
small
vista
to
code
required
lat
or
the
one
code
required
ladder
that
extend
above
that
refining.
Basically,
what
would
be
behind
it.
Is
that
what
you
see
there
is
the
parapet
which
is
going
to
be
screening
the
rooftop
mechanical
on
that
building.
H
So
this
photo
here
shows
the
on
the
east
side
of
Palm
Canyon
standing
in
front
of
the
cocky
cactus.
This
is
so
the
again
that
same
parapet,
you'd
see
the
ladders
extending
above
or
faster
than
I
want.
The
letters
were.
The
latter
would
extend
above
that,
roofline
there
and
and
you'll
be
able
to
see.
H
So
those
are
really
the
two
vantage
points
that
you'd
be
able
to
see
the
ladder
on
the
north
side
of
the
Asian
and
building.
When
you
move
on
to
pass
chocolates
going
south
standing
in
front
of
the
Ben
and
Jerry's
the
ladder
on
the
south
side
of
the
building,
you
would
see
that
because
I
keep
going
too
fast,
so.
H
Further
east
on
the
elevation,
so
right
now
when
you're
looking
at
elevation,
it's
actually
would
be
in
this
area
on
the
photo,
but
they
are
actually
proposing
to
relocate
that
so
that
the
backdrop
would
be
the
parapet
and
they
do
propose
to
paint
that
that's
changed.
So
that
is
one
change
that
you
don't
do
not
have
in
your
exhibits.
Is
the
latter
would
be
moved
further
west
so
that
you
would
not
see
the
the
arms
extend
above
about
the
refined
Ernests
on
the
South
elevation.
H
And
then
the
last
photo
I
have
here
is
showing
standing
further
west
from
Palm
Canyon
on
topics.
Canyon
way,
you
would
be
able
to
see
portion
of
the
ladder
here
again
once
these
palms
are
the
lease
are,
let
go
they'd
be
able
to
screen
some
of
it,
but
you'd
still
see
potentially
areas
of
the
latter
portions
of
layer
that
would
extend
above
the
recline
in
those
two
locations.
H
So
when
staff
reviewed
this
request,
the
app
connoted
that
this
was
a
requirement
of
the
building
department
that
they
do
have
to
provide
roof
access
to
any
area
that
has
rough
out
mechanical
units,
so
they
are
providing
internal
access
where
the
public
restroom
is
and
then
from
there
they
would
have
the
ladders
that
are
being
proposed
before
you
today.
Staff,
when
looking
at
the
issue
was
noting
concerns
of
it,
impacting
the
architecture
and
the
fun
minds
of
the
building.
H
So
that
is
why
is
before
you
and
we
do
believe
that
it
potentially
does
diminish
some
of
the
architectural
integrity.
So
I
can
answer
any
questions.
If
you
have
any
I
know,
the
applicant
is
going
to
explain
some
of
the
reasons
why
they
they
have
to
have
the
letters
so
I'll.
Let
them
make
that
presentation
to
you
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
A
E
J
Every
tenant
is
refusing
to
accept
a
ladder
because
it
takes
valuable
retail
space
away,
as
David
showed
all
the
pictures
and
Chris
Purusha
talk
more
to
about
it,
but
I
spent
significant
time
also
walk
among
the
buildings
trying
to
figure
out.
This
is
deteriorating
from
the
architectural
beauty
of
the
buildings
and
we're
spending
a
lot
of
money.
Building
architectural
jewels
here
so
I
feel
they
are
not
really
deteriorating
from
it.
J
A
lot
of
landscaping
will
hide
it
as
well,
but
on
the
palm
trees
that
we
see
in
here,
but
there
will
also
be
a
big
specimen
tree
in
front
of
our
core,
so
that
will
hide
the
ladder
that
is
on
the
second
floor
there
as
well.
In
addition,
all
the
letters
will
be
painted
at
the
same
color
as
the
wall
that
they're
going
to
place
against.
So
for
that
reason
as
well,
the
ladders
will
be
blend
in
on
this
particular
picture.
You
see
there
we
decide
this
morning.
J
We
should
move
the
ladder
over
to
the
parapet
on
the
second
floor
and
let
it
blend
in
was
the
blue
screen
there,
where
all
the
HVAC
units
are
sitting.
So
we
explored
several
options.
What
we
can
do,
but
we
don't
have
a
lot
other
than
trying
to
go
back
to
the
tenants
and
trying
to
convince
them
that
they,
let
us
put
a
ladder
inside
their
unit,
which
I
foresee
to
be
very
difficult.
That's
our
main
issue
here
and
again,
I
think
and
again,
crispa
do
talk
more
about
it.
J
I
I
think
these
pictures
really
illustrate
it
a
little
bit
better.
The
flat
line,
drawings,
I,
think
the
ladders
really
stand
out
to
note
like
where
David's
are
showing
the
ladders
on
they
come
up
to
where
the
mechanical
screening
is
mechanical
screenings
over
five
feet.
Tall
ladders
himself
only
come
up
42
inches
above
it
and
they're,
basically
like
that
thick
they'll
be
colored.
The
same
color
like
Michael,
said
as
the
material
that's
in
front
of
the
upper
portion
will
be
colored
the
same
as
the
mechanical
screen.
I
H
I
You
go
to
the
annex
one
first,
the
annex,
if
you
guys
recall,
is
kind
of
like
this.
Antique
brick
looking
building
I
exposed
all
the
I-beams
throughout
the
building,
so
I
actually
think
the
latter
on
that
one
I
I
was
happy
with
it.
It
could
be
painted
black
and
supposed
to
look
kind
of
like
a
fire
xscape,
but
you
can
barely
see
it
as
you
can
see
the
old
core
so
that
front
portion
time
ruins
but
yeah,
like
my
Chrisette,
there's
a
specimen
tree
there,
but
oh.
I
This
so
where
you
see
the
wood
Ledger
right
there,
the
parapet
comes
up
another
18
inches.
So
really
what
you'll
see
of
this
building
is
about
between
here
and
here
and
then,
like
I,
said
the
actual
ladder
comes
up
to
about
here
and
then
that's
the
mechanical
screen
beyond
and
they'll
be
painted
black
just
like
the
exposed
all
that
all
this
steel
is
actually
exposed
and
painted
black,
so
that
one
I
think
like
blends
in
with
the
character
of
the
building
itself.
I
I
This
is
a
shroud
that's
about
two
feet
off
of
this
space,
then
the
ladder
now
that
Michael
moved
it
will
be
coming
up
right
here
and
again:
it'll
come
up,
42,
inches
tall,
I'm,
sorry,
42,
inches
tall
on
data
mechanical
screen
and
then
painted
on
that
proportion.
The
same
color
as
that
mechanical
screen,
which
is
a
darker
gray,
can
we
see
it
from
the
north.
I
I
Okay,
this
is
where
it'll
be
most
visible.
If
you're
on
this
one
corner
here
the
stairwells
here,
the
nice
thing,
though
this
is
a
flat
white
stucco
wall,
so
this
ladder
would
be
white
coming
up
and
then
painted
the
color.
The
mechanical
screen
here
again
coming
up
42
inches,
but
this
is
really
the
only
one
moment.
You'll
ever
see
it
directly
on
Palm
Canyon,
it
will
be
between
where,
what's
it
called
now
crazy,
coconuts,
crazy,
coconuts
and
like
at
the
next
storefront
Sal.
Can
we
go
to
that
one?
You
had
before
that
to
again.
I
The
parapet
on
tommy
bahama's
comes
up
again
about
another
eight
inches,
so
you're
now,
even
with
the
level
of
the
roof
of
the
H&M
beyond
and
then
you'll
have
the
42
inches
of
just
the
handrail
exposed,
basically
painted
the
same
color
again
it's
the
mechanical
screen.
So
as
the
designer
of
these
buildings,
I'm
comfortable
with
it
I,
don't
think
anyone's
actually
get
really
notice
them
at
all.
If
I
thought
they
would
I'd
really
beg
and
plead
for
them
to
move
them.
I
J
Didn't
know
that
so
I
don't
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
that
I
actually
vouch
that
we,
if
we
can
place
the
ladders
on
the
roof
itself
and
put
them
down,
but
backhoe-
that's
not
allowed
others,
so
they
need
to
be
station
or
that
they
cannot
fall
over.
So
these
are
the
I'm
not
going
to
seed
your
cases
but
I'm
saying
anyway.
These
are
the
things
that
you're
dealing
with
by
code:
compliance
that
you
cannot
change
when
you
design
those
buildings.
E
G
J
Are
the
letters
as
they
are
right
now
were
approved
much
earlier
when
the
building
went
through
the
building
department?
And
then
all
the
leases
were
signed,
but
so
I
don't
have
it
in
the
least
that
a
ladder
or
a
hatch
would
be
placed
there,
which
tenants
always
are
fighting
because
of
water
leaks
and
other
things?
If
you
hatch
there,
the
other
things
we
are
based,
we
don't
have
a
much
a
lot
of
room
in
the
building.
That's
the
other
problem,
then
one
that
is
in
the
bathroom.
I
Anyway,
little
one,
some
of
the
larger
spaces
that
back
house
it's
about
the
lease,
but
there's
a
number
of
space
that
don't
have
bathrooms
or
really
even
a
back
of
house,
so
they
don't
have
any
area
within
it
and
then,
unfortunately,
unfortunately,
because
the
design
has
all
the
different
roof
levels,
we
have
like
seven
different
roof
levels
on
the
project
and
the
front
space
there
that
where
this
ladder
needs
come
down,
it's
actually
part
of,
so
we
would
have
to
get
a
ladder
down
off
that
roof
to
get
there
unless
there
was
two
hatches
somehow
in
their
retail
area.
C
M
I'm
happy
to
see
that
at
least
will
be
painted
out
to
the
you
know,
adjacent
material
and
they
will
disappear
to
some
degree.
I'm,
not
sure
we're
focused
on
it.
How
many
other
people
are
going
to
be
focused
or
even
be
aware
of
it
as
a
pedestrian,
so
I
I,
guess
I'm,
pretty
comfortable
I'm,
not
an
architect,
I'm,
not
sure
if
there's
a
better
solution,
but
from
what
they
present
it
I
I'm
pretty
comfortable,
especially.
We
look
at
some
of
those,
those
palms
and
stuff
we're
going
to
open
up
and
you're.
D
C
D
A
M
There's
also
a
tree:
it
tommy
bahama's,
there's
the
ladder
at
that
side,
north
side
above
tommy
bahama's,
but-
and
we
approved
a
large
tree
going
in
there
when
that
corner,
I'm,
not
sure
it's
going
to
foreknowledge
I,
don't
think
it's
big
enough
to
really
screen
that
ladder
on
top
there.
But
if
you
look
at
that
perspective,
there's
a
tree
going
to
be
placed
in
that
corner.
E
M
G
E
With
you
right
now,
what
we're
saying
is
that
there's
one
or
two
that
could
be
fully
exposed,
that
we
can
request
for
the
applicant
to
come
up
with
some
sort
of
screening,
but
on
the
rest,
were
saying
that
the
landscape
would
and
that
could
be
worked
out
with
the
staff
or
we
allow
it
to
be.
What
it
is,
which
is
a
lot
can.
G
C
H
This
elevation-
this
is
the
north
side
of
the
building,
and
so
this
is
standing
in
front
of
Greek
island
restaurant
just
south
of
Andreas,
so
that
one
you'll
see
the
red.
You
may
be
able
to
see
it,
but
we
are
kind
of
far
away
but
the
parapet
on
the
second
story.
There
would
be
the
backdrop
at
this
particular
location
as
you
move
further
south
on
the
east
side
and
you
zoom
in
to
get
up.
E
H
H
So
the
roofline
of
the
Starbucks
is
here
so
we're.
Essentially,
if
you're
standing
at
the
southwest
corner,
you
would
see
the
rail
that
extends
above
our
alignment
if,
if
potentially
I
mean
it
now
that
it's
been
moved,
it's
not
you
know
before
it
would
have
been
seen
in
the
sky,
but
now
it's
been
moved,
so
you
the
backdrop
of
it
will
be
careful.
H
E
J
These
are
for
apartments
on
the
second
floor
and
where
you
see
those
palm
trees,
this
is
other
specimen
tree
the
same
tree,
that's
standing
in
front
of
Tommy
Bahama's,
so
that
will
get.
We
will
cover
that
whole
building
there
at
their
level.
So
you
cannot
see,
from
top
words
really
and
in
front
of
Italy,
it's
the
restaurant.
Of
course,
all
so.
The
closer
you
walk
into
the
walkway.
You
not
going
to
be
able
to
look
above
the
building,
I.
J
To
actually
Planning
Commission
required
a
high
tree
to
create
so
shade
tree,
because
that's
the
tree
that
sits
in
front
of
the
Kimpton
Hotel
in
the
walkway
and
we
have
a
concrete
bench
and
a
lot
of
seating
areas
around
it
and
we
didn't
want
to
build
sales
up.
So
we're
going
to
pick
a
big
tree
that
creates
shade
and
the
misting
system
right
here.
Another.
H
E
So
the
letter,
that's
by
the
Starbucks,
the
new
Starbuck
coffee,
these
the
backdrop,
the
second
story
volume
behind
that
is,
that
finish,
material
strip,
spandrel
or,
if
you,
if
you're,
looking
at
elevation
to
South
elevation
between
very
lines,
ENF.
The
second
story
volume
behind
this
is
a
keynote
14
Stockwood
joints.
C
C
J
J
J
A
I
D
C
D
C
D
C
C
I
J
What
yeah
I
think
would
you
we
envision
a
different
tenant
on
the
left
side,
but
in
we'll
take
everything,
so
that's
always
you
as
a
two-story
building
and
they
have
the
building
behind
Starbucks,
and
so
in
order
to
get
to
that
roof
you
had
to
go.
You
cannot
go
on
Starbucks.
I
C
C
I
The
the
question
was
in
regards
to
bringing
a
ladder
up
from
the
higher
hill,
of
course,
has
two
roofs.
It
has
a
low
roof
where
the
old
mechanical
is
kind
of
hidden.
Then
it's
a
higher
roof
where
the
dining
areas-
and
there
already
is
a
ladder,
obviously
to
get
from
the
lower
roof
to
the
higher
roof.
So
she
was
asking
if
we
could
then
put
a
ladder
up
the
west
facade
of
the
to
leave
eight
the
need
of
the
north
ladder
of,
and
that
would
be
possible.
I
I
E
E
E
G
K
C
D
J
You
don't
mind
me
saying
these
buildings
are
the
construction
budget,
for
those
buildings
is
twenty
eight
million
dollars?
If
we
would
put
ladders
on
that,
that
would
tear
from
the
architecture
we
wouldn't
do
it.
The
designers
here
we
talk
about
ladders,
that
is
anybody
really
walking
along
the
sidewalk
and
focusing.
E
E
And
discuss
all
this,
forgive
me
for
saying
that.
But
we
are
professional
architects
and
you
may
question
our
quality,
but
we're
having
a
hard
time
understanding
how
best
to
solve
this
problem
and
the
truth
is
we're
not
to
solve
the
problem
yep.
Okay.
So
having
said
that,
let's
let
give
us
a
chance
to
do.
We
have
gone
back
and
forth
and
in
attempt
I'm
wanting
to
help
the
situation,
but
I
think
it's
getting
a
little
bit
sort
of
extended.
So
there
are
different
opinions
here.
So
let
us
do
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing.
Okay,.
A
Think
I
think
to
Susan's
point.
It
is
hard
to
make
a
recommendation
for
a
better
idea
without
understanding
what
the
options
are.
That's
where
I
find
myself
sitting
so
I
would
have
a
hard
time
saying
yes,
I
approve
of
this
being
the
best
solution
to
Michael
and
Chris's
point
you
know,
Chris's
name
is
all
over
it.
He's
not
going
to.
G
And
I
think
as
an
architect,
you
would
say:
okay,
here's
my
compelling
argument
to
the
to
the
staff,
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
going
the
reason
that
were
doing
it
differently
than
what
was
originally
approved
is
because
in
this
particular
instance,
we
have
a
color,
that's
going
to
match
it's
going
to
be
screened.
Here's
what
it
looks
like
in
the
floor
plan,
here's
what
it
looks
like
in
the
real
plan
and
here's
what
it
looks
like
in
the
elevation.
We
don't
have
that.
I
I
I
J
When
we
want
to
respect
and
yet
that
I'm
just
clear
on
my
point,
Michael
goes
with
we
work
with
the
building
department
to
be
code,
compliance
where
to
place
those
ladders.
So
it's
not
like.
Oh,
let's
just
place
them
here.
We
have
explored
every
single
option
and
when
we
win
flint
pointed
out
to
us,
we
explored
other
options.
What
can
we
do
to
fix
this?
That
we
don't
have
to
be
in
front
of
you
actually
just
a
fixture
over
the
counter,
and
we
totally
respect
that
friend
that
we
have
to
go
back
to
you
to.
J
E
It
is
the
cocoon
I
mean
this
put
a
motion
in
place.
I
believe
that
if
the
package
is
really
incomplete
regardless,
what
has
been
said,
I
think
to
Susan's
point:
is
that
yes
there's
a
tree
years,
it's
going
to
be
this
color.
Yes,
it's
going
to
be
screened
by
this.
All
that
should
be
represented
in
the
package
when
that
argument
is
being
put
together.
So.
E
We
try
to
work
with
the
exhibits
that
are
here
today
and
I
think
we're
not
comfortable
in
making
that
decision.
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
not
comfortable
making
that
decision.
So,
having
said
that,
is
there
a
motion
that
we
want
to
put
together
now,
a
couple
of
things
is
that
we
understand
it's
a
requirement.
We
can
have
a
committee
put
together
to
look
at
how
different
other
solutions
can
be
put
together,
or
we
can
ask
the
applicant
to
prove
to
us
that
these
are
not
going
to
be
visible
from
main
views
from
the
downtown
area.
D
I
can
suggest
a
motion.
Okay,
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
look
at
this
again
with
some
further
exhibits
that
better
explain
where
the
ladders
are
and
what
the
implications
are
on
the
views
that
could
be
a
3d
model,
maybe
not
I,
suggested
it
wouldn't
think
it'd.
Be
that
difficult,
we're
just
adding
these
to
it
and
I'm
not
talking
about
the
full
renderings,
just
like
pretty
generic
3d
model.
This
adding
the
liner
I
think
I
would
help
us
folks
and
weeds
if,
through
it
and
all.
D
G
M
E
F
I
just
have
one
request:
the
city
is
working
on
its
sign
ordinance
as
part
of
that
ordinance.
It
includes
the
ability
to
have
portable,
open
signs
or
a-frame
signs
as
additional
signage
for
businesses.
The
City
Council
has
requested
that
we
put
together
design
standards
specific
for
those
a-frame
signs.
I
would
like
to
have
a
volunteer
from
the
AAC
to
serve
with
me
and
a
member
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
a
member
of
the
Main
Street
organization
to
come
up
with
standards.