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So,
let's
move
on
to
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
this
tour,
excite
Preservation
Board
on
the
agenda
items
and
items
the
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
board.
Although
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board,
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
There
will
be
three
minutes
assigned
for
each
speaker.
If
there
is
anyone
wishing
to
speak
today,
please
come
forward
state,
your
name
and
sign
in
please
and
welcome.
E
Hi
Rob,
moon
and
I'm,
here
speaking
for
myself.
Obviously
I
can't
speak
for
the
entire
council,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
couple
things:
one.
Your
symposium
was
phenomenal.
I
enjoyed
it
so
very
much
I
stayed
for
the
entire
day
and
the
speakers
were
great.
The
organisation
was
extraordinary
in
the
attendance
was
great
I
mean
you
guys
did
a
really
good
job
all
the
way
around,
and
thank
you
because
that
symposium
makes
you
know
the
importance
of
historic
preservation
educates
the
residents
of
Palm
Springs
us
so
very
well
on
this
importance.
E
Second
I
hadn't
been
here
yet
I've,
been
meaning
to
come
to
say,
congratulations
to
my
old
friend
Kathryn
Hough
for
her
appointment
to
the
board.
I
was
delighted
when
she
applied
and
I
was
delighted
to
be
able
to
support
her
and
I
know.
She's
gonna
be
a
great
addition
to
this.
Esteemed
group,
like
I
always
said,
I
really
wanted
to
be
on
the
HSP
bee
and
I
used
to
come
to
your
meetings
before
I
was
before
I
was
on
message
a
commission
and
then
I
decided
I
wasn't
qualified.
E
So
that's
why
I
ran
for
mayor,
but
the
third
thing
I
wanted
to
say
was
you
know:
I
I
always
feel
very
badly
when
we
have
to
take
something
to
review
at
the
council
level
that
you
guys
have
passed
and
to
review
it
and
on
rare
occasions
to
overturn
it
and
on
the
communal,
rial
I
mean
I
watched.
The
video
of
your
of
your
meeting.
I
read
every
page
of
the
staff
report,
which
is
rather
extensive.
I
read
every
letter
we
received
from
people
and
we
got.
E
We
got
letters
from
mark
Rios
and
from
from
Jim
coffee
and
others,
and
I
went
there
and
and
toured
the
property
a
great
deal
and
I
think
you
know
the
council
voted
unanimously
to
to
not
uphold
that
stay
of
demolition
and
I
hope.
You
won't
take
that
personally,
it
was
just
you
know,
with
the
additional
information
we
received
and
the
other
architects
that
put
in
on
that.
We
just
decided
that
it
wasn't
something
we
really
felt
that
met
the
well
I
did
not
feel
it
was.
E
Please
tell
us
so
and
don't
take
that
as
something
I
feel
guilty
about.
It
was
sort
of
I'm,
not
really
apologizing.
I
just
want
to
sort
of
explain
a
bit
that
we
looked
at
it
more
extensively
with
more
input
than
you
had
originally,
and
the
final
decision
was
unanimous
and
it
was
not
a
political
decision.
It
was
a
an
objective
position
based
upon
what
we
saw
as
at
least
in
my
point,
what
we
saw
as
the
facts.
E
A
Thank
you
and
I
know.
The
board
greatly
appreciates
those
comments,
and
also
I
would
just
like
to
thank
you
can
account
the
council
or
yourself
and
two
council
members
for
being
at
our
symposium
this
year
and
being
a
part
of
the
awards
ceremony,
because
it
really
does
I
think
show
the
the
world
that
the
you
know
the
city
is
really
behind
us
in
in
preservation
efforts.
So
we
really
greatly
appreciate
that.
E
To
be
able
to
do
the
presentation
of
the
of
the
the
Plaza
theater
as
one
of
the
tours,
of
course,
I
only
found
it
about
it
the
day
before,
but
but
but
still
we
hae
that
that
event
was
sold
out
and
the
enthusiasm
of
the
people
that
came
was
amazing
and,
and
we
I
think
the
tour
we
gave
was
great
and
I
hope.
You
know
you
guys
will
be
there
helping
us
as
we
move
forward
on
that
very,
very
important
project
to
restore
that
incredible
piece
of
Palm
Springs
history.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
A
B
Thank
you.
Mr.
chair.
This
item
has
before
you
last
month,
at
the
request
of
the
owner
was
continued
to
this
month.
The
project-
that's
before
you
as
a
group
of
three
structures
built
at
varying
times
on
two
separate
parcels,
essentially
at
the
south
east
corner
of
South
Palm
Canyon
Drive
in
East,
Palo,
Verde,
Avenue
mm-hmm.
It's
comprised
of
a
single-story
wood
frame
home
on
the
Palo
Verde
lot,
a
2-story
commercial
building
at
11:40,
South,
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
and
a
single-story
gas
station
with
its
service
canopy,
that's
still
in
place.
B
Your
staff
report
goes
into
on
page
two
and
three
a
little
bit
more
description
and
analysis
of
the
various
structures
on
these
sites.
Excuse
me,
1100
South,
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
from
the
building
permit
records
we
found
had
various
parts
of
it
built
in
1946
in
1959
respectively,
and
it's
a
gas
station.
That's
been
closed
for
a
considerable
number
of
years,
the
home
on
at
111
East,
Palo
Verde.
We
were
not
able
to
find
building
permits,
but
in
seeing
submit
photos.
B
As
you
see
on
page
four,
the
home
was
there
at
least
as
early
as
the
1940s.
As
noted
there.
In
the
early
2000s,
a
fire
broke
out
behind
the
service
station,
which
also
damaged
the
home,
and
the
home
has
not
been
occupied
since
that
time
and
the
owner
has
had
it
boarded
up.
There's
an
image
from
the
front
of
the
house
in
the
lower
part
of
page
four
on
the
top
of
page
five
is
the
third
building.
That's
under
consideration
for
request
for
approval
to
demolish
and
it's
a
conventional
two-story
wood
frame
building.
B
That
is
a
commercial
structure
on
the
first
floor
and
apartments
on
the
upper
floor,
and
it
too
has
been
vacant
since
the
early
2000s.
As
noted
on
page
5,
there
is
some
information
that
the
owner
brought
forward,
that
the
library
and
Historical
Society
apparently
had
a
temporary
lease
occupying
part
of
the
building
at
11:46
South
Palm
Canyon.
But
in
our
analysis
we
do
not
believe
that
that
temporary
occupancy
rises
to
the
level
of
historic
significance.
B
B
The
discussion
of
those
items
is
on
your
pet
in
your
staff
report
on
pages
8,
&
9
and
as
noted,
we
have
not
found
in
our
evaluation
of
the
application
evidence
that
would
suggest
that
these
properties
are
able
to
have
those
findings.
Affirmatively
made
the
buildings
as
we've
noted
are
deteriorated.
They
are
fire
damaged,
they've
been
vacant
for
many
years,
and
they
really
are
in
what
we
would
consider
a
form
of
a
blight.
The
applicant
does
not
have
plans
to
replace
these
buildings
in
your
ordinance.
B
B
Property
owner
does
not
have
plans
for
a
new
building
on
this
site
at
this
time.
What
has
brought
this
forward,
interestingly,
is,
as
the
city
put
in
place,
its
new,
more
stringent
vacant
building,
ordinance
in
which
there
are
costs
involves
and
monitoring
that
has
to
be
made
and
fees
that
must
be
played.
The
owner,
recognized
that,
as
the
ordinance
was
intended
to
was
putting
a
financial
burden
on
this
site
that
he
was
not
interested
in
carrying
forward
and
therefore
made
the
application
to
demolish
the
buildings.
That
concludes
my
staff
report.
B
Again,
our
recommendation
is
that
the
findings
cannot
be
made
in
support
of
carrying
this
to
a
higher
level
of
historic,
designation.
We're
recommending
that
the
board
take
no
action
and
allow
the
director
to
process
a
demolition
application
on
this
property.
In
this
case,
because
it
is
a
blighted
property,
we
would
also
work
with
the
building
official
as
an
to
exercise
his
prerogative
as
a
blighted
building
to
allow
it
to
be
demolished
without
there
being
a
replacement
building
in
in
the
wings
the
building
owner
and
the
applicant
is
in
the
audience.
B
A
D
Good
morning,
I
have
signed
in
and
first
I'd
like
I'm
Steve
Begley
I'm,
the
co
trustee
for
the
Bigley
Family
Trust
been
managing
these
properties
for
about
ten
years.
First
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
voluntary
service.
I
am
also
a
public
servant.
I
look
forward
to
doing
volunteer
time
with
when
I
retire
and
have
more
time,
but
I
appreciate
that
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
great
work
that
Finn
Flynn
flag
and
kin
line
have
provided
through
this
long
process.
D
We
started
this
process
a
little
over
a
year
ago
and
it
was
delayed
due
to
the
moratorium
on
the
demolition,
so
we
are
looking
forward
to
moving
forward
with
this.
It's
been
quite
a
challenge:
keeping
people
out
of
the
properties.
Despite
all
of
my
work
and
efforts
to
properly
secure,
they
vagrants
are
very
creative
in
how
they
break
in
and
everything
from
breaking
the
plaster
and
going
through
the
wall
of
these
buildings.
D
So
I've
been
I've
had
to
make
arrests
on
the
property
I've
been
confronted
by
mentally
disturbed
homeless
people
waving
devices
that
look
like
guns,
and
so
it's
it's
been
a
very
challenging
time
to
get
through.
Just
since
the
application
was
started,
we've
spent
about
$10,000
in
most
of
which
was
for
the
monitoring
fees
that
the
city
now
charges.
So
that's
just
in
a
short
amount
of
time,
including
the
monthly
inspections
and
the
monitoring
reports
that
all
part
of
the
process.
C
D
So
we
don't
have
those
type
of
resources
and
my
father's
now
in
a
residential
care
facility,
and
certainly
that
does
drain
some
of
the
resources
that
we
have
and
so
there's
not
an
interest
there
to
develop
the
property.
In
addition,
the
gas
station
had
a
had
to
was
subject
to
a
cleanup,
and
that
was
about
a
17
year
process.
The
fuel
that
leaked
below
the
Descent
dispensers
was
trapped
in
the
soil.
D
It
did
not
make
it
to
groundwater,
but
still
vapor
extraction
Wells
had
to
be
installed
and
those
vapors
had
to
be
removed
from
the
soils
over
a
period
of
about
five
or
six
years.
So
we
completed
that
process
about
two
years
ago,
maybe
three
years
ago.
So
until
that
process
could
be
completed,
the
property
would
not
have
been
attractive
for
any
potential
other
development
or
opportunities.
So
that
had
to
be
completed,
and
it
was
about
a
17
year
process
to
complete
that
remediation.
So.
D
D
At
some
point,
I'm
sure
the
trust
will
be
closed
out
when
my
father
passes
and
at
that
time
for
tax
purposes,
that's
a
better
opportunity
for
selling
the
property
because
of
the
step
up
that
you
get
in
capital
gains
taxes.
So
if
we
were
to
do
that
prior
to
that
there
would
be
greater
financial
implications.
D
We
would
remove
the
structures
to
a
flat
surface
and
leave
the
foundations
and
concrete
for
dust
control
and
leave
the
property
at
that
in
that
manner.
Until
such
point
that
the
my
father
passes
and
then
we
can
put
the
property
up
for
sale,
we
have
no
plans
in
developing
we're,
not
I'm,
not
a
developer
and
that's
not
in
my
wheelhouse.
C
C
G
So
I
I
share
your
concern
and
at
first
I
was
sort
of
opposed
to
the
process.
For
that
very
same
reason,
I
have
to
say,
though
my
mind
has
probably
been
swayed
because
I
certainly
don't
want
and
I,
don't
think
the
city
intended
on
financial
hardship
to
be
placed
on
anybody.
I
also
understand
very
well.
Why
they're
waiting
to
sell
the
property,
because
that
could
also
selling
the
property
now
could
place
additional
financial
hardship
on
the
trust
and
I?
G
Don't
think
that's
really
what
the
intention
of
the
city
is
either
and
so
I
think
I
personally
am
open
to
exceptions.
I
share
the
concern.
Most
of
my
concern
is
because
in
the
past
we
haven't
had
a
thoughtful
process,
but
I
as
I
said.
I
I
certainly
understand
why
what's
happening
is
happening
and
why
what
hasn't
happened
has
not
happened,
and
so
I
support
the
process
and
I
support
the
conclusion
of
the
staff
report
and.
H
I
do
support
the
staff
recommendation.
I
am
aware
that
the
Bigley
family
has
struggled
with
this
property
for
many
many
many
many
years
and
have
tried
to
do
different
things
with
it
and
it's
it's
not
of
historic
significance
and
it's
a
real
burden
for
the
family
and
a
financial
problem.
So
I
would
support
the
staff
recommendation
to
to
process
the
demolition
permit
on
this
property.
H
A
B
You
mr.
chair,
the
next
three
items
on
your
agenda
are
a
receive
and
direct
staff.
We've
got
three
applications
that
are
here
on
the
next
three
items
on
your
agenda
and
what
we're
recommending
on
these
is
that
you
receive
the
report
and
that
you
take
a
motion
to
direct
staff
to
schedule,
site
visits
of
the
board
of
these
sites
and
then
to
schedule
public
hearings
for
the
board
to
consider
the
applications.
B
F
Yes,
mr.
Lavoie
it,
the
desert,
Holly
report
is
excellent.
I
would
like
it
even
better
if
there
was
a
floor
plan.
F
C
A
B
F
A
A
A
A
A
A
If
there
are
no
other
comments,
I'd
like
we
have
a
motion,
do
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
I
B
A
B
F
Mr.
chair
comments:
it's
an
excellent
report.
It's
rare
when
I
Chuck,
all
through
and
historic
structures
report-
and
this
might
be
a
first
I-
greatly
appreciate
the
wit
that
this
was
written
with
and
on
page
14.
I'm,
really
looking
forward
to
the
historic
structures
were
support
for
893
camino
del
sur.
B
F
A
So
we
have
a
motion
by
member
Lavoie
and
a
second
by
member
board
any
further
discussion.
A
A
First
thing
I
like
to
just
report:
we,
our
subcommittee
event
subcommittee,
had
a
debrief
meeting
recently
and
just
a
few
comments,
I'd
like
to
share
with
you
all
about
that.
First
of
all,
our
attendance
we're
really
edging
up
towards
400,
actually
375
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
highlights
this
year
that
everybody
really
enjoyed
was
the
students
exhibits
in
fact,
I
think
we're
trying
to
get
people
to
get
into
the
end
to
the
ballroom
at
the
last.
A
It
was
a
very
positive
reaction.
I
think
this
year
to
the
bank
is
our
venue
our
only
concern
or
issue.
Our
Queens
concern
was
that
it's
due
to
the
nature
of
that
building,
it's
it's
almost
impossible
to
darken
it,
which
does
affect
the
presentation
and
the
filming.
But
I
was
really
surprised
that
many
many
people
had
never
had
not
seen
had
not
experienced
the
the
bank.
So
it
really
served
a
great
purpose
and
I
greatly
appreciate
having
that
as
as
our
venue.
A
When
I
reviewed
the
registration
list,
I'm
just
kind
of
in
awe
of
that,
and
not
that
I
certainly
know
everybody
in
preservation
in
Palm
Springs,
but
I
must
say,
there's
probably
75%
of
those
names
at
least
that
I
did
I
did
not
recognize
so
we
have
to
also
you
know.
We
have
a
situation
where
we
have
people
that
are
just
putting
their
toe
in,
and
then
we
have
those
who
have
been
involved
with
the
preservation
movement
for
quite
some
time
so
trying
to
balance
all
of
that
out
in
creating
a
program.
A
You
know
a
continued
program
and
they
recommended
that
we
continue.
Our
program,
for
both
days
was
somewhat
of
a
similar
format,
so
I
have
a
file
and
a
document
with
numerous
ideas
for
2020
already
started
for
the
event
for
the
subcommittee's
of
new
subcommittees
of
consideration
and
I
would
like
to
establish
that
subcommittee
in
July,
which
would
follow
the
final
determination
of
the
selected
HSB,
be
members
by
council
in
June
and
I
would
propose
that
our
first
meeting
would
be
no
later
than
September
and
very
possible
in
July.
A
So
the
last
point
is
I
think
is
once
again,
our
goal
will
be
to
include
for
other
organizations
in
our
city
that
have
a
focus
on
preservation
and
architecture
to
participate
in
the
event,
so
that
we
are
really
all
inclusive
and
that
we
are
the
host
so
that
wraps
up
my
portion.
I
would
now
like
to
open
up
to
the
board
for
your
suggestions,
recommendations
and
comments.
So
if
I
could
start
with
miss
Dixon
a.
C
A
lot
of
the
people
I
spoke
to
and
including
myself
thought.
The
whole
thing
was
tremendous.
You
did
a
wonderful,
wonderful
job.
Some
of
the
people
thought
that
the
presentation
on
Monday
should
have
been
more
focused
to
Sunday,
since
it
dealt
more
with
Palm
Springs
than
the
Bauhaus
movement.
Okay,
amber.
C
C
So
while
sunday
was
very
informative,
if
you
were
interested
in
the
Bauhaus
movement,
I
felt
no.
This
is
me
personally
speaking,
I
felt
that
the
architects
that
we
had
I
thought
they
were
all
very
good,
but
to
me
they
were
more
telling
about
what
they
have
done
and
it
wasn't
work
that
was
directed
specifically
towards
Bauhaus.
You
know,
I
did
this
project
I'm
building
here
and
doing
that,
so
that
those
are
my
comments
regarding
that.
C
I
also
thought
the
presentation
at
the
historic
at
the
California
Preservation,
the
one
where
we
had
the
panel
with
the
realtor
Scott
Timberlake
and
I
thought
that
was
an
excellent
panel
and
that
panel
would
be
one
I,
would
love
to
see.
Give
a
presentation
on
Sunday
I
think
they
all
spoke
from
the
heart
and
they
had
some
really
good
information
and
insight
into
Palm,
Springs
and
I.
I
thought
it
was
very,
very
good.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
and
to
that
point,
Linda
I
also
made
a
note.
We
said
that
presentation,
I
agree
with
you
and
I
was
sitting
there
and
I'm
thinking.
Oh,
that
is
a
perfect
part
that
we
should
have
for
our
program
and
the
fact
that
it
pointed
out
the
economic
impact
on
the
city
as
well
and
then
and
then
the
other
facets
that
that
were
mentioned.
It
was
a
very
well-rounded
panel
that
we
could.
A
C
G
But
well
kudos
to
the
sub.
The
subcommittee,
you
guys
did
an
amazing
job.
They
really
was
great
I.
Would
probably
my
suggestion
would
be
that
if
it
stays
a
two-day
event
to
have
it
Saturday
and
Sunday
and
not
Monday
I
think
my
concern
would
be
on
a
weekday.
You're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
people
who
can't
attend
who
are
locals,
who
work?
Who
can't
attend,
because
it's
it's
a
weekday,
so
I
would
probably
suggest
going
to
a
Saturday
and
a
Sunday
just
to
try
and
get
more
people
to
be
able
to
attend.
G
I
mean
you're,
no
matter
when
you
have
it.
You're
still,
gonna
have
people
who
can't
but
I
think
there
might
be
a
greater
likelihood
of
people
who
could
go
on
Saturday
and
Sunday
right
other
than
that
it
was
great.
I
mean
the
panel's
on
Monday,
the
discussion.
The
topics
on
on
Monday
were
great,
so
I
had
I
had
a
really
great
time
and
all
the
feedback
that
I
got
very
positive.
So
thank
you
and
kudos
to
all
of
you.
Yeah.
A
I
think
that
saturday/sunday
thing
is
an
interesting
thing,
and-
and
that
was
another
thing
I
should
have
mentioned-
that
we
did
discuss
just
for
the
reasons
that
that
you
bring
up
I,
think
more
people
could
attend.
I
realized
we'd
be
taking
an
entire
weekend
from
people,
but
only
those
that
are
interested
in
coming
the
second
day.
Let's
do
that
anyway,
and
we're
not
you
know.
A
F
Well,
dicks
already
heard
from
me,
but
my
suggestion:
it
was
an
excellent
event
and
very
informative
for
the
most
part,
I
guess
what
I
was
upset
about
was
if
some
of
the
presenters
weren't
talking
about
preservation
at
all,
but
rather
self-promotion
and
I
objected
to
it.
If
I
knew
it
was
that
opportunity,
I
would
have
had
a
different
presentation,
but
it,
but
that's
not
the
track.
I
took
that's.
B
F
I
was
part
of
an
atomic
ranch
thing
during
modernism
week
that
sort
of
had
you
know
there
was
me,
and
there
were
two
architects
from
different
points
of
view
and
then
a
contractor
and
a
contractor
developer,
and
it
was
an
interesting
discussion
because
each
of
us
has
a
different
take
on
how
you
go
about
doing
it,
and
that
would
be
valuable
for
people
to
learn.
You
know
just
ok,
I'm
stuck
with
this
historic
property.
I
do
it.
How
can
I
you
know?
What
do
I
do
in
the
in
you
know
it
was.
F
A
Yeah,
it
was
a
dense
two
days,
I
mean
so
I.
Think
that
you
know
what
you
already
mentioned,
you
don't
we
don't
need
as
many
speakers
and
give
them
more
time.
It
felt
a
little
bit
rushed
if
we
are
gonna.
Do
it
on
a
Saturday
and
Sunday
I
would
think
to
do
what
was
on
Monday
to
do
Saturday
and
to
keep
the
symposium,
which
a
lot
of
people
like
to
go
to
and
go
to
the
tours
and
they're
used
to
doing
it
to
keep
that
on
Sunday.
A
H
Well,
I
loved
every
minute
and
I.
Thank
the
organizers,
you,
you
did
a
fabulous
job.
It's
very
well
organized
I,
like
all
all
the
comments
and
I
think
that's
good
Dan,
maybe
to
keep
the
symposium
on
on
Sunday
and
go
with
the
workshops
on
Saturday.
You
know
reverse
it.
The
symposium,
you
know
was
an
international
topic.
It
was
you
know,
looking
at
the
Bauhaus
movement
and
its
influences
on.
H
I
I
Additional
comments
mr.
chair
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
express
my
gratitude
to
Vincent,
Dan
and,
and
you
mr.
chair,
for
the
work
that
you
did
in
organizing
it.
I
am
just
in
awe
of
the
people
that
you
are
able
to
bring
into
this
and
the
amount
of
participation
that
you've
gotten
out
of
that.
So
again
really
appreciate
your
efforts.
I
think
we
have
certainly
grown
the
symposium
over
the
five
years
that
I've
been
here
and
our
professionalism
and
and
how
we
put
forth.
I
The
symposium
is
certainly
improved
over
the
years,
just
some
budget
numbers
very
quickly,
just
so
that
we
understand
where
we
are
I
think
the
first
year
I
was
here.
We
had
about
two
thousand
dollars
to
spend
on
the
symposium
this
year
we
spent
about
5,200
dollars,
but
that
includes
both
days
that
were
X
expenses,
both
for
the
workshop
and
the
symposium.
So
we're
keeping
that
out
as
I
look
at
the
number
of
attendees
we
had.
It
was
about
$9
a
person.
I
If
you
look
at
it
that
way,
and
so
I
think
we're
able
to
put
on
a
program
of
significant
magnitude
for
a
cost
that
bits
down,
write
a
bargain,
so
I
think
it's
money
well
spent
and
again
appreciate
the
City
Council,
allowing
us
the
type
of
budget
that
allows
us
to
put
on
a
program
that
really
shows
the
strengths
of
our
preservation
program
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
again,
thank
you
for
all
of
your
hard
work.
All
of
you
in
in
making
sure
things
ran
smoothly
and.
A
A
Oh
I
love
what
these
women
have
to
say
and
I
must
say
that
I
have
really
learned
how
to
become
a
professional
bigger
so,
and
it
is
not
my
personality
to
do
that,
but
you
have
to
do
what
you
have
to
do,
but
I
appreciate
what
we
do
have
but
believe
me,
because
I
want
to
see
this
event.
I
want
to
see
it
go
on
in
the
future.
A
B
So
board
you
know
that
this
project
has
been
going
on
for
some
time
now
and
we
are.
Finally,
if
you
want
to
say,
we've
turned
the
corner
a
bit
and
instead
of
in
a
dismantlement
mode,
we're
now
starting
to
put
the
place
back
together
again.
So
these
are
just
a
couple
of
photos
that
I
took
last
week
at
the
site
to
give
you
a
bit
of
an
update,
so
the
structural
reinforcement
of
the
floors
is
being
completed,
as
you
see
there
and
the
slide
on
the
left.
B
That
is
what
was
there
before
there
was
a
series
of
wood
stumps,
a
few
concrete
blocks,
a
few
trailer
jacks
and
a
few
other
things
shoved
under
the
floor
to
try
to
keep
it
up
and
those
have
all
been
replaced
with
concrete
footings
that
have
brought
incredible
stability
back
into
the
house.
The
contractors,
as
we
were
over
there
last
week
said
you
literally
could
stand
in
the
house
and
sway
yourself
back
and
forth,
and
the
house
would
sway
with
you
and
it
is
now
it
does
not
dance
with
you
when
you
know
dance
at
it.
B
There.
You
see
the
original
floor
having
been
reinstalled.
This
is
a
painted
hardwood
in
the
bathroom.
There
was
a
sheet
vinyl
flooring
that
likely
had
been
installed
in
79
when
the
house
was
last
moved.
This
is
going
to
be
replaced
with
a
painted
hardwood
flooring
to
match
the
rest
of
the
flooring
in
the
rest
of
the
dwelling
on
the
outside
the
field,
stone,
veneer
and
the
foundation
walls
have
been
removed
in
certain
areas,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
photo
on
the
right
to
install
seismic
straps
to
tie
the
wood
structure
to
the
concrete
foundation.
B
B
Probably
when
the
house
was
first
built,
it
may
have
been
on
simply
a
field
stone
foundation.
We
don't
have
records
of
that,
but
when
this
is
finished,
the
field
stone
will
go
back
over
this,
and
these
seismic
straps
will
no
longer
be
seen.
Also,
you
can
see
here
on
the
photo
on
the
right
that
plywood
or
oriented
strand
board
that
you
see
there
is
part
of
the
structural
or
seismic
lateral
reinforcement.
B
That's
going
into
the
house,
and
those
sheets
of
OSB
go
in
and
act
as
a
diaphragm
to
resist
lateral
movement
in
the
event
of
an
earthquake.
The
photo
on
the
right
I'm.
Sorry
on
the
left,
gives
you
a
nice
detail
of
what
and
how
this
house
has
been
put
together.
I
don't
have
a
pointer
here,
but
what
you
see
there
is
starting
from
the
foundation.
You
see
there's
sort
of
a
big
heavy
set
of
Timbers.
B
It
appears
that
that
set
of
Timbers
was
installed,
probably
when
the
house
was
moved
either
in
the
move
in
the
40s
or
in
the
move
in
79,
because
what
you
see
right
on
top
of
it
is
another
sill
plate,
and
that
is
what
we
believe
may
have
been
the
original
sill
plate
and
this,
which
is
the
1914
portion
of
the
house.
On
top
of
that,
you
can
see
just
a
very
small
portion
and
I
think
my
next
slide
may
be
a
little
bit
clearer
on
it.
B
We
believe
that
this
thing
was
built
with
a
conventional
two-by-four
wood
frame
construction
and
in
fact
it
was
not.
It
was
little
more
than
some
furring
strips
that
were
that
were
used
as
the
framing
the
wood
that
you
see
there
with
the
horizontal
lines
in
it
is
standard
beadboard
that
is
used
most
typically
in
older
buildings,
for
porch
ceilings
and
sometimes
for
wainscoting,
and
then
the
vertical
board-and-batten,
which
you
see
in
the
left
photo
further
toward
the
back
is
what
we
evidence
or
understand
the
house
to
be
on
its
outside
today.
B
So
here
is
another
detail
showing
that
the
photo
on
the
right
is
the
horizontally
laid
beadboard
that
was
laying
underneath
the
tongue
and
I'm
sorry,
the
board
and
batten.
You
see
right
in
the
middle
that
photo
a
little
round
circle.
That's
a
carriage
bolt
head.
It
appears
that
when
the
house
was
relocated,
probably
in
the
40s
that
to
help
hold
the
thing
together,
they
went
in
and
put
these
carriage
bolts
in
at
the
corners
to
help
hold
the
house
together
at
the
corner
on
the
photo
on
the
left.
Again,
it's
a
little
bit
clearer
picture.
B
You
can
see
the
about
where
that
I'm
trying
to
get
this
Mouse
to
go
over
there,
but
I
can't.
But
you
can
see
how
small
these
members
are
that
were
the
furring
strips
and
there
again
you
see
the
double
base
plate
and
the
board
and
batten
further
to
the
left,
the
existing
board
and
batten
wood,
that's
in
good
enough
condition
to
be
reused,
is
being
sorted.
B
B
The
film
crews
are
continuing
to
document.
The
stabilization
of
the
structure
interviews
are
being
conducted
this
week
with
various
individuals
that
are
familiar
with
the
project,
including
councilmember
roberts,
tracy
conrad
from
the
Palm
Springs
Historical
Society
board,
Renee
brown,
the
director
of
the
Palm
Springs
Historical
Society,
the
tenant.
B
If
you
will
raisa
a
gossip
or
who
was
the
structural
engineer,
who
was
trying
to
fort
perform
magic,
Rob
Bard
is
in
Rick
green,
with
DW
Johnson
they're,
the
primary
superintendents
and
generals
on
the
job
former
mayor
and
a
local
historian
and
architect
will
climb
deans,
and
then
our
former
chair,
Gary
John's.
These
interviews,
some
of
them,
took
place
yesterday
and
the
rest
will
conclude
tomorrow.
B
We
believe
that
the
project
will
finish
out
cautiously
I
am
saying
this
by
the
end
of
the
summer,
but
as
this
project
has
unfolded,
it's
been
one
surprise
after
another,
but
now
that
we
are
sort
of
turning
the
corner
and
putting
things
back
together,
we
think
the
end
is
in
sight
and
can
cautiously
predict
an
end
of
summer.
Early
fall,
completion,
stay
tuned.
C
B
Got
some
of
the
material
and
we're
going
to
curate
how
those
assemblies
were
put
together
because
they
are
very
interesting.
We
were
talking
earlier,
I.
Think
in
one
of
the
previous
meetings.
Member
Hayes
was
also
looking
at
the
idea
of.
Do
we
create
a
portion
of
the
wall
that
has
maybe
some
kind
of
a
clear
plexiglass
or
something
to
kind
of
demonstrate,
the
layering
of
it.
Somehow
we
will
curate
how
the
thing
was
put
together,
which
is
part
of
what
the
documentary
is
doing
as
well.
B
C
A
G
So
again,
Ken
thank
you.
That
was
amazing.
It
has
been
so
long
in
coming,
and
so,
when
you
start
with,
we've
turned
the
corner,
Mike,
yeah
right
sure,
aha,
you
really
did
I
mean
it
was
like.
It
has
been
literally
like
years
what
seemed
to
be
setback
after
setback
after
setback
and
no
sorry,
that's
not
enough.
We
need
more
and
no,
we
can't
do
that,
and
it
really
is
the
hope
and
encouragement.
That's
there
is
exciting
and
it
really
looks
like
we
really
have
turned
the
corner
and
the
building's
gonna
stand
and
that's
really
cool.
B
And
the
special
thanks
to
the
City
Council
for
recognizing
the
importance
of
this
building
and
investing
in
it
it.
It
really
tells
a
part
of
the
Palm
Spring
story
in
so
many
different
ways.
It
talks
about
the
scarcity
of
material
when
people
were
first
building.
It
talks
about
the
innovation
that
they
were
using.
B
There
are
a
few
others
of
these
that
had
been
built
at
the
time
saddle
scavenging
this
wood
from
the
old,
Palmdale
railroad
and
perhaps
only
because
of
cornelia
White's
bequeathing
this
to
the
city.
Does
it
even
still
exist
today
because
had
it
simply
been
left
on
a
parcel
and
sold
to
the
next
successive
owner,
it
might
have
simply
been
scraped.
So
it's
an
interesting
tease.
A
Any
other
comment,
support
yeah.
This
particular
project
is:
has
it
actually
has
a
touch
of
romance
to
it?
I
think
when
you
think
about
how
it
really
ties
in
the
history
of
the
city,
but
also
would
just
like
to
reiterate
that
this
is
again
where
persistence
from
the
board.
I
can
just
sit
here
and
remember
the
time
I've
been
on
the
board,
how
many
times
this
came
up
time
after
time,
and
so
the
moral
of
that
story
is
just
don't
give
up
when
there's
something
really
important.
C
I
have
one
thing
to
bring
forward
on
Camino
Real
right
past
its
past
coffee.
Next
to
the
Michaels,
there
is
a
small
I,
don't
know
if
it's
an
apartment,
building
or
what
but
the
windows
are
boarded
up,
and
everything
and
I
would
just
like
someone
to
look
and
find
out
what's
going
on
there.
Thank
you.
C
G
I
I
Gary
Jones
was
very
particularly
passionate
about
that
and
appreciate
his
efforts
there,
but
there
is
space
for
the
gates
to
be
installed.
Should
they
be
given
to
the
city
in
terms
of
the
illumine,
our
house,
there
is
still
a
spot
reserved
for
it.
However,
I
don't
know
exactly
what
the
status
of
that
is.
I
have
her
talk,
informally
that
there
is
discussion
relative
to
looking
at
other
sites,
but
again
there
is
a
space
that
was
allocated
for
it
on
the
south
side
of
museum.
I
Way
right
in
terms
of
the
naming
of
the
park
city
council
hasn't
discussed
that
yet
so
I
don't
know
that
they're
any
further
along
I
would
encourage
our
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
members.
If
they
are
interested
in
suggesting
a
name
for
the
park
and
I
know
that
one
suggestion
has
been
to
name
it
after
Nellie
Kaufmann
herself,
but
I
would
encourage
the
board
members
to
let
your
council
member
know.
If
you
have
an
opinion
about
what
the
name
of
the
park
should
be.
Do.
G
I
A
A
A
F
Won't,
oh
it's
you
know,
I've
watched,
so
many
public
parks
get
planned
and
everybody
in
the
community
gets
their
two
feet
of
it
and
you
end
up
with
a
park
that
is
so
packed
with
stuff
that
there
isn't
room
for
the
trees.
There's
no
park
there
and
and
and
I'm
afraid
that
that
you
know
I
haven't
been
involved
and
just
watching
it
from
a
distance
that
I
see
that
happening.
One
more
time,
yeah
and
you
know
Santa
Barbara-
has
this:
had
this
lovely
carousel
building
that
they
built
at
huge
expense
to
house
a
carousel?
F
F
The
appeal
in
in
my
25
years
of
sitting
on
commissions
and
boards
and
reading
historic
structures
reports
that
report
was
one
of
the
most
biased
I
have
ever
read
and
I've
read
a
few
that
were
biased
and
and
they
can
be
biased
by
what
they
not
include
by
who
wrote
them
and
I've
read
historic
structures,
reports
that
were
biased
by
qualified
historians
and
and
in
this
particular
instance,
though,
what
concerns
me
is
that
I'm
not
aware
that
that
the
city
has
qualifications
for
people
writing
historic
structures,
reports.
F
So
it
I'd,
like
you
know,
and
in
your
the
things
to
do
for
the
next
fiscal
period,
maybe
have
an
exploration
of
what
it
takes
to
write
a
report
and
who
pays
for
it,
and
you
know
how
it
gets
to
be
unbiased
and
I
mean
we
use
them.
We
rely
on
them
and
evidently
the
City
Council
revived.
You
know
we
had
a
document
that
we
hadn't
seen
to
reach
their
conclusions
and
I'd
be
very
curious
to
read
one
of
those.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
and
Mike.
You
know
in
what
you
said
my
thinking
is
it
absolutely
is
appropriate
that
the
owner
pay
for
it,
because
it's
the
owners
work.
That
needs
to
be
done.
However,
what
I'm
wondering
if
there's
some
way
to
have
the
owner
pay
for
it,
but
the
city
hire
the
person,
so
there's
some
objectivity
there
and
there's
some
arm's
length
distancing
between
the
process
and
the
owner,
still
carries
the
fair
burden
of
the
expense,
but
there's
some
objectivity
interjected
into
the
process
where
the
city
hires,
whoever
the
city
hires
to
be
a
more
objective.
A
Just
mr.
Kyser
missed
up
nothing
else:
okay,
I
just
have
a
couple
of
things.
Could
we
have
a
review
of
where
we
stand
with
them?
Queen,
Steve,
McQueen
house
and
the
progress
that's
made
and
we
still
again
have
had
some
of
our
members
that
were
not
able
to
see
the
house
of
what's
happening.
It's
been
quite
a
while.
A
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
mention
is
I
thought
what
you
sent
out
recently
to
the
board.
Ken
was
excellent
about
the
French
miso
restaurant
example
and
again
how
the
board
works
with
entrepreneurs
that
and
and
store
keepers
and
restaurant
owners
on
their
properties
to
make
them
viable
kind
of.
In
contrast
to
that
and
I
think,
it's
really
important
that
our
board.
We
continue
to
do
everything
we
can
to
support
these
properties
that
are
designated.
A
In
addition
to
the
flashing
sign
that
I
mentioned
the
other
day
that
are,
there
are
naked
light
bulbs
that
are
strung
across
with
wires
I
think
it's
under
the
Antigua
diner
ship,
and
it
just
looks
to
me
that
it's
creating
a
carnival
out
of
a
maybe
that's
every
member
as
a
kid
hating
myself.
They
probably
have
carnivals
anymore,
but
it
just
seems
so
inappropriate
to
have
those
lights
also
there
as
as
well
and
so
I
always
has
that
I
ask
myself.
So
the
big
thing
is
operationally.
A
A
B
Wasn't
a
matter
of
being
prejudiced
or
oversensitive
when
we
do
land
use
permits,
particularly
in
the
downtown
it's
very
specific,
what
at
a
tenant
and
business
owner
may
do
in
their
outside
space,
and
sometimes
in
the
cases
of
restaurants?
We
even
impose
restrictions
on
not
allowing
the
use
of
paper
napkins
and
paper
and
plastic
plates
because
they
tend
to
blow
away
so
there's
often
a
pretty
extensive
list
of
conditions
of
approval
on
land
use
permits.
B
The
flashing
open
sign
was
brought
to
my
attention.
I
saw
it
myself
and
I've
been
meaning
for,
because
I
owns
the
middle
of
a
code
complaint,
but
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
do
so,
but
yeah
we're
aware
of
that.
The
string
of
lights
I'll
go
back
and
see
what
was
in
the
land
use
permit.
That
was
approved
for
Antigua
kitchen
and
see
what
was
allowed
there
and
those
were
not
part
of
the
original
land
use,
approval
or
land
use
permit.
B
There
are
some
very
restrictive
conditions
that
are
imposed
on
those
first
floor:
tenants,
including
not
attaching
anything
to
columns
or
to
the
upper
canopy
and
so
on
and
I'll
talk
about
that
under
staff
comments
on
an
issue
over
there
right
now,
but
we
work
to
make
sure
on
these
buildings
that
are
historic,
that
they
have
a
sensitivity
imposed
in
writing
on
their
land.
Use
permits
those
restaurants
that
are
not
in
historic
buildings
have
equally
significant
conditions
put
on
their
operations,
especially
if
they
have
outdoor
dining
good.
A
G
I
I
actually
have
a
staff
comment
for
can.
Every
year
we
have
to
make
a
report
on
our
certified
local
government
status
and,
in
particular,
on
training
received
by
our
HS
PV
members.
Do
they
need
to
actually
send
you
information
about
the
number
of
sessions
that
they
attended
at
the
conference
or
just
attendance
at
the
conference?
Is
that
enough,
when.
I
B
No
report
together
and
I've
always
said:
please
keep
track
of
the
things
that
you're
doing,
and
some
of
you
do
forward
them
on
to
me
as
you
get
them.
But
yes,
if
you've
gone
to
individual
sessions
at
a
conference
list
them
in
the
same
way
that
you
might
list
them.
If
you
were
looking
at
continuing
education
credits
for
professional
certification,
if
you've
gone
to
something
like
the
California
Preservation
Foundation
conference
and
you've
attended
four
of
those
sessions
list
them.
B
B
Just
a
couple
of
things-
hopefully
all
of
you
did
take
advantage
of
everything
you
could
from
the
California
Preservation
Foundation
conferences.
Past
week,
I
participated
with
Sidney
Williams
and
Jacques
Rousseau
on
a
it
was
called
designated
destinations
and
we
took
a
45
person,
bus
to
the
LOI
residents,
the
Moores
residents,
the
hugh
stevens
residents,
the
casa
cody
and,
of
course,
I'm
going
to
blank
out
on
the
thank
you,
whatever
the
Wechsler
steel
houses
and
had
a
really
fun
time
with
that.
B
There
was
also
a
mock
board
review
that
we
did
with
taylor
Loudon
and
several
other
individuals.
I
think
you
were
also
in
that
session
we
featured
the
Wellwood
Murray
courtyard.
The
Robinsons
department
store
building
the
Laplace
of
thither
project
and
the
small
English
cottage
house
over
in
Old
Las
Palmas
I'm
missing
something
it
seems
like.
There
was
another
one
in
that
particular
session.
B
We
all
acted
as
all
of
you
and
the
president
I
was
making
the
presentations
and
then
playing
board
member
as
well,
because
we
were
a
little
short
on
stuff,
but
it
was
a
really
interesting
session,
I
thought
and
all
what
your
reflections
on
it
were.
But
it
brought
good
questions
from
the
audience
and
you
know
it's
interesting.
A
picture
tells
a
thousand
words
and
it
can
tell
the
words
anyway.
B
This
thing
is
just
slammed
up
against
the
old
and
it
doesn't
really
give
any
spatial
relief
and
so
I
went
up.
Where
and
I
said
well,
here's
the
floor
plan
and
if
you
do
recall
those
of
you
that
were
part
of
that
review,
the
old
house
was
here.
There
was
a
linkage
component
and
then
the
addition-
and
you
couldn't
see
that
in
the
materials
that
we
had
presented
so
it
it
got
a
thrashing
by
the
MOC
board.
B
Our
whole
intention
was
to
make
it
so
you
couldn't
find
that
point
were
old
and
new
met
and,
and
then
I
explained,
you
know
the
city
put
together
the
archival
record.
So
from
the
point
of
view
of
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards,
we
know
what
parts
of
that
building
are
and
what
parts
were
done
in
2018,
and
so
it
was
a
really
interesting
dialogue
that
happened
at
that
particular
session.
B
A
very
quick
update,
well,
would
Murray
library
courtyard
we're
waiting
for
the
next
set
of
design
drawings
to
come
back
from
the
consultant.
We
anticipate
them
coming
back
in
late
summer.
I
think
it
will
probably
come
to
the
board
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
probably
at
the
September
meeting.
Okay,.
B
On
some
issues
that
are
ongoing
right
now
at
the
Oasis
commercial
building,
if
you
recall
you
processed
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
el
patron
restaurant
to
occupy
the
space
that
was
previously
the
Starbucks
and
they
also
had
a
land
use
permit
processed.
As
we
talked
about
a
little
earlier
and
in
those
documents,
we
were
very
very
clear
that
nothing
is
to
be
a
fixed
attached.
Glued
screwed
tape,
nailed
to
those
columns,
the
round
ceramic
clad
columns
and
when
I
went
out
to
final
inspect
the
project.
B
I
found
electrical
conduit
and
outlets
had
been
attached
to
them,
and
so
we
raised
it
to
the
owner
of
the
contracting
companies
attention
and
he
assured
me
that
they
had
not
been
attached
to
the
columns
and
they
were
be
easily
removed,
and
so
I
was
told
that
they
had
been
removed.
I
went
out
the
next
day
and
found
that
actually
they
had
been
attached
to
the
columns
and
when
they
ripped
them
off
the
column
they
shattered
the
tile.
B
So
anybody
that
goes
by
there
in
the
next
few
days,
please
do
not
freak
out
the
contractor
and
I
are
working
to
come
up
with
alternative
tiles
that
they
believe
they
can
find
a
tile
that
will
match
both
in
color
and
finish
to
what's
been
damaged.
These
tiles
are
small
mosaic
tiles
about
inch
by
inch
and
it's
disappointing,
but
they
we
have
their
attention.
They
understand
the
mistake.
That's
been
made
and
they're
working
diligently
with
me
to
get
that
problem
solved.
B
The
other
thing
that
you
mentioned
is
the
laplacian
ysou
cafe,
I'll,
bring
that
to
the
board,
just
as
a
brief
PowerPoint
presentation,
like
I,
did
with
Cornelia
white,
so
the
public
can
see
that
as
well.
A
dick
you
mentioned
that
that
was
a
good
one
to
explain
where
there
is
compromise
that
has
to
be
made
on
a
historic
building
to
introduce
these
new
uses
and
a
lot
of
times
the
new
uses.
It's
not
easy.
B
I
mean
this
is
an
enormous
mushroom
hood
exhaust
that
had
to
go
on
to
a
very
small
cottage
on
the
south
Paseo
at
El,
Plaza,
that
la
plaza,
a
shopping
center
and
I
think
they
did
a
pretty
good
job
when
I
saw
the
photos
of
it.
The
last
thing
that
I
have
is
I
got
an
interesting
phone
call.
Yesterday
from
one
of
our
owners
of
our
historic
gas
stations.
B
B
D
E
B
F
C
C
B
B
He
has
submitted
a
performance
bond
to
bond
over
the
work
until
it
gets
replaced,
and
he
is,
he
is
incurring
considerable
expense
and
loss
of
revenue
while
this
gets
fixed.
So
we
are
not
finding
him,
but
this
problem
that
he's
tackling
right
now
is
causing
him
a
substantial
amount
of
financial
difficulty
in
getting
his
business
opened.
B
C
I
guess
you
know,
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I
think
of
the
the
homeowner
who
thought
the
tree.
He
moved
the
tree
and
the
tree
died
and
he
got
the
six
hundred
thousand
dollar
fine
for
moving
the
tree.
I
just
think
that
owners
or
business
people
have
to
be
responsible
for
their
contractors
in
the
damaged
end.
B
A
point
we
all
are
acutely
he's
painfully
aware
of,
what's
going
on
with
this
right
now
and
I'm
sorry
PostScript
on
on
the
Oasis
commercial
building.
If
you
recall,
with
the
railings
that
you
work
to
approve
for
this
restaurant,
you
established
a
new
standard
railing
for
any
other
future.
Restaurants
and
I
can
report
to
you
that
the
building
owner
is
looking
into
the
cost
of
possibly
removing
the
rest
of
the
old
giro
euro,
steel,
those
yellow
and
brown
pipes,
and
trying
to
possibly
go
back
in
and
extend
more
of
this
railing.
B
At
the
very
least,
they've
asked
me
if
they
could
at
least
paint
out
those
yellow,
orange
and
brown
steel
posts
in
the
same
color
as
the
dark,
charcoal
gray
that
al
patron
has
has
done
their
railings
in
and
I've
said.
Yes,
we
would
process
that
so,
hopefully
we'll
at
least
see
the
railings
be
painted
a
dark
color
that
will
recede
and
maybe
over
time
we're
going
to
actually
see
those
unfortunate
steel
pipes
go
away
and.
B
I
was
going
to
see
if
we
had
time
and
if
you're
interested
two
weeks
ago,
my
husband
and
I
and
eight
of
his
family
members
went
to
Cuba
and
I.
Have
a
small
couple
of
slides
here.
Does
the
slides
that,
if
you'd
like
to
see
them
I
will
share
some
of
my
trip
to
Cuba?
Would
you
like
to
see
them?
Okay,
see
I,
find
this.
B
And
how
do
I
get
this
to
fullscreen?
Do
you
know
there?
Okay,
so
here's
the
island
of
Cuba
up
on
the
top
there?
You
can
see
the
US
and
the
Florida
Keys,
our
trip
started
there
out
of
Miami
Beach,
we
visited
Key
West,
and
then
we
circled
around
and
went
to
Havana,
which
you
see
there
in
the
top
of
the
island.
The
trip
then
circled
around
to
the
other
side
of
the
island.
If
you
see
where
the
word
Cuba
is
just
off
to
the
left
is
the
word
seen
Fuegos.
B
That
was
our
second
port
of
call
and
then
the
last
one
which
we
were
supposed
to
visit,
but
we
were
unable
to
because
the
port
was
under
construction
and
they
couldn't
accommodate.
The
ship
is
Santiago
de
Cuba,
which
is
at
the
very
bottom
toward
the
just
above.
Where
you
see
Jamaica
is
there
and
that
was
kind
of
a
disappointment.
It
was
one
of
the
oldest
settlements
in
Cuba,
so
this
is
what
we
arrived
and
saw
that's
the
fun
of
our
ship,
approaching
the
ruins
of
their
port
in
Havana.
B
There
were
three
or
four
of
these
port
buildings
that
you
see
here.
The
roofs
have
all
been
lost.
There's
one
of
there's
one:
that's
been
rewritten
ufff
to
accommodate
these
ships.
The
photo
on
the
right
is
just
this
nice
overlay
of
the
Tower
of
the
port
buildings
against
the
warehouse
of
the
port
buildings
in
the
dome
behind,
and
this
is
what
some
of
Old
Havana
looks
like
in
those
portions
that
have
not
been
restored
under
the
UNESCO
World
Heritage
Site.
B
It's
a
fascinating
Museum
of
many
many
many
generations
of
architecture,
and
much
of
it
really
does
lie
as
you've
heard
in
ruins.
Like
this,
you
will
find
these
beautiful
old
buildings
like
this
one
and
I
have
this
one.
A
little
bit
later,
you'll
see
the
whole
building,
but
you
notice
the
cornice
above
this
door
is
just
crumbling
apart
and
the
door
is
being
kind
of
held
together
with
I,
don't
know
what,
and
sometimes
you
can
get
in
and
peer
inside
of
these
doors
and
you'll
find
these.
B
B
B
Urban
design
is
they've
built
in
you
know,
of
course,
much
of
Spain
is
warm
and
arid,
but
you've
got
these
covered
sidewalks
and
they're
everywhere,
and
they
do
such
a
magnificent
job
in
terms
of
dealing
with
a
commercial
strip
and
a
street
with
pedestrian
movement
in
a
way
that
shelters
you
from
that
intense,
in
this
case,
Caribbean,
Sun
and
and,
of
course,
in
old
Spain,
from
the
very
warm
Sun
there
as
well
when
you
peer
inside
some
of
these
little
doorways
and
so
on.
These
are
the
kind
of
scenes
that
you
see
inside.
B
Interestingly,
my
husband's
family
is
a
very,
very
old
Cuban
family.
They
refer
to
them
as
Mayflower
Cubans,
because
the
family
has
been
there
for
generations,
and
this
was
their
family
home
in
a
neighborhood
of
Havana
called
Miramar,
and
it
was
developed
in
the
1920s.
This
was
his
grandparents
house
and
the
house
in
which
he
and
his
sister
were
born.
That's
my
husband
and
his
sister
there
in
front
the
house
when
they
left
Cuba
in
1960.
B
They
literally
walked
away
from
it,
and
the
government
seized
the
home
and
it's
now
home
to
about
10
families
and
it's
even
in
its
crumbling
and
decaying
State.
It's
just
got
this
beauty
about
it.
That's
really
wonderful,
better
story
about
such
a
building.
This
was
his
aunt's
house
in
a
nearby
street.
B
This
one
has
had
a
better
story
when,
when
you
for
those
families
who
left
Cuba
when
Castro
came
in
the
government,
basically
took
over
the
homes
and
usually
gave
them
to
people
that
needed
homes
later,
they
began
to
get
a
little
wiser
about
it
and
they
began
using
some
of
these
older
structures
for
embassies
and
things
like
that.
In
this
particular
case,
the
grandmother
died
and
the
rule
in
Cuba
was
that
you
may
have
one
house,
so
she
had
a
house
that
was
slightly
more
modest
than
that
one
when
the
grandmother
died.
B
Oh,
and
it
was
just,
it
was
a
beautiful
contrast
to
see
one
of
these
old
Mozart's
buildings
that
has
been
maintained
and
kept
up
compared
to
what
was
sort
of
a
sadder
story
and
outcome
with
his
parents.
Home
I
want
to
just
point
out
briefly
on
the
picture
on
the
right
notice.
The
floor.
I
became
kind
of
obsessed
with
these
amazing
ornate
decorative
floors.
That
would
be
both
in
the
homes
and
in
the.
B
Well,
I'll
come
back
to
that.
If
I
can't,
my
brother
has
a
half-brother
and
when
my
husband's
family
left
Cuba
1960,
his
half-brothers
mother
was
a
Castro
sympathizer
and
they
moved
to
Cuba.
So
this
is
Cojimar
and
it's
the
small
community
outside
of
Havana,
where
Hemingway
wrote
the
old
man
in
the
sea,
and
my
this
is
my
husband
and
his
half-brother.
The
father's
name
was
Ricardo.
My
husband's
name
is
Ricardo.
B
Our
groups
from
the
museum
here,
the
AMD
center
and
Peter
Maruti
through
pious
matcom,
have
done
tours
of
Cuba
and,
coincidentally,
they
wound
up
having
dinner
here
in
Cojimar
at
Rick's,
brother's
son,
in-laws,
restaurant
and
the
food
was
just
unbelievable.
So
now
we've
got
left
Havana
and
now
we've
circled
around
in
the
boat
to
sin.
Fuegos
sin
for
a
ghost
is
a
smaller
city
in
Spain
I'm,
sorry
in
Cuba,
and
has
a
very
interesting
collection
of
architecture
as
well.
This
is
what
you
see
in
a
lot
of
these
cities
in
Cuba
is
just
this
crumbling.
B
B
Deco
facades
you'll
find
elements
like
this
under
these,
these
covered
sidewalks
with
these
windows
and
doors,
and
then
this
close-up,
showing
the
amazing
ornamentation
that
these
buildings
have
and
again
you
find
this
kind
of
a
doorway
with
a
door
inside
of
the
door
and
you
peek
inside
and
there's
all
kinds
of
thriving
life
going
on
inside
of
these
old
buildings.
This
is
some
of
the
deco
that
I
was
mentioning
that
I
saw
earlier,
and
this
is
what
happens.
B
B
Are
these
covered
walkways
these
covered
sidewalks
that
just
proliferate
these
cities
in
these
commercial
areas
and
they're,
just
beautiful
as
well
as
functional,
because
you
can
be
out
there-
and
this
was
a
very
hot
Caribbean
Sun
sunny
day
and
we
walked
for
hours
in
these
little
Paseos,
just
seeing
all
kinds
of
delightful
things,
this
kind
of
richness
and
detail
that
you
find-
and
just
you
know
the
beautiful
detailing
this
architecture
this
building
over
here
on
the
far
right.
You
can
just
barely
see
this
anybody's
familiar
with
arch
construction.
B
These
are
what
are
considered
flat,
arch
construction,
so
rather
than
an
arch
and
the
way
you
would
typically
think
of
it.
There's
a
flat
arch
type
of
construction
where
there's
actually
a
keystone
piece
laid
in
here
that
keeps
the
other
pieces
in
compression,
and
normally
you
wouldn't
see
any
of
that.
But
as
these
buildings
are
falling
apart,
you
can
actually
see
the
various
way
that
those
pieces
are
laid
together
again
more
of
the
floor
tile.
B
In
some
cases
the
building's
have
gone
through
restorations,
and
then
they,
when
you
see
them
in
their
finished
state,
they
just
truly
are
beautiful.
This
was
an
old
sort
of
Art,
Moderne,
Church
and
I
was
not
able
to
get
into
it,
but
the
detailing
on
the
front
of
it
was,
was
really
quite
beautiful
and
yes,
there
are
the
cars
there.
B
You
can
see
that
kind
of
covered
portico
that
happens
along
these
streets
that
just
allow
you
to
walk
for
block
after
block
after
block
and
enjoy
a
shady
condition
and
I
will
try
one
more
time,
and
that
was
the
last
slide.
The
if
I
can
feel
oblige
me
here,
just
one
minute,
I'll
see
if
I
can
pull
these
up.
This
was.
B
He's
explaining
what
happened
here
with
the
story
of
the
family,
losing
the
house
and
then
the
grandmother
moved
into
this
house,
so
that,
because
this
was
the
better
house
and
the
the
couple
that
had
gotten
this
place
were
just
fascinated
because
they
didn't
know
all
the
family
history
on
the
house
they
bought.
So
here
was
generations
of
people
coming
here
to
this
house
that
they
had
bought
as
were
running
as
a
hotel,
and
now
they
had
the
family
story
of
the
house
behind
it.
B
A
H
Mr.
chair,
before
that,
I
just
want
to
comment
on
your
Cuba
tour.
It
was
really
great
seeing
all
those
photos
and
the
wonderful
experience
and
Chris
ending
with
the
music
and
the
rum
and
the
food,
and
all
that,
but
I
want
to
mention
that
I
was
fortunate.
Working
at
the
museum.
I
did
escort
five
art
tours
to
Havana
in
the
surrounding
area.
Over
a
period
of
15
years,
the
first
time
I
went
was
in
2000
and
then
the
last
time
was
2015
and
in
those
15
years
well
our
tours
focused
on
visiting
artist
studios.
H
H
B
We
were
lucky
that
his
his
half
I'm
sorry,
my
his
half
brothers
wife,
worked
for
the
Ministry
of
Culture
and
there's
a
gentleman
who
has
inventoried
every
building
in
Havana
now,
and
they
have
a
beautiful
big
coffee
table
book
showing
what
it
was
before
and
how
it's
been
renovated.
And
she
gave
me
a
copy
of
that
book,
which.
A
Else
I
have
one
little
fact
about
Cuba
I'd
like
to
share.
Actually
my
partner
was
in
a
fana
the
night
just
before
that
mr.
Castro
was
to
take
over,
and
so
the
State
Department,
rounded
up
all
of
his
fraternity,
brothers
and
himself.
They
were
sent
out
on
a
special
plane
the
night
before
and
they
called
the
parents.
In
this
particular
case,
rusted
failed
to
tell
his
mother
and
dad
that
he
was
going
to
be
going
to
Cuba.
A
So
on
that
note,
if
there's
no
additional
discussion,
I
will
adjourn
the
historic
site,
Preservation
Board,
to
its
regular
scheduled
meeting
on
Tuesday
June
11
2019
at
9
a.m.
in
the
large
conference
room
at
City
Hall.
Thank
you
to
board
for
your
participation
today
and
have
a
great
week
and
the
staff.
Thank
you.