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Okay,
it's
time
for
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
parks
and
recs
Commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Although
the
Commission
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
cannot
generally
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
or
posted
on
the
posted
agenda.
A
G
Good
afternoon
Commission,
thank
you
for
having
me
to
speak.
My
name
is
Paul
Henrickson
I'm,
a
resident
of
Palm,
Springs
and
I'm,
also
part
of
a
group
called
smoke-free
Palm
Springs
and
at
some
point
in
the
future,
we'd
like
to
have
a
discussion
with
this
Commission
to
hopefully
bring
a
resolution
of
support
for
two
ordinances
that
we're
bringing
forward
to
the
city
through
other
avenues
and
those
two
ordinances.
G
G
There
really
is
no
enforcement,
and
so
we
want
to
see
that
happen.
Palm
Springs
is
one
of
very
few:
a
small
handful
of
cities
left
in
Riverside
County
that
have
not
yet
adopted
this.
The
typical
lifetime
victim
of
the
tobacco
industry,
who
we
call
smokers,
start
before
the
age
of
21
in
Palm
Springs
having
triple
the
illegal
sales
to
minors.
We
can
help
bring
a
stop
to
that
and
have
a
lot
less
people
victims
of
the
tobacco
industry.
G
The
second
ordinance
is
a
citywide
ordinance
to
bring
various
public
safe
public
space,
smoking
bans,
and
we
would
like
to
get
resolution
of
support
and
an
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
commission.
If
you
will
consider
at
some
point
in
the
future
putting
our
group
on
your
agenda,
so
we
can
have
a
discussion.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
Good
afternoon
I'm
Julie
Estrada
I
am
a
Palm,
Springs
resident,
longtime
resident
and
activist
and
advocate
when
needed,
regarding
the
possible
takeover
of
the
leisure
centers,
tiny
tots
program,
preschool
I.
Think
many
of
us
are
here
to
oppose
that.
I
feel
that
first
of
all,
I
have
a
daughter,
that's
turning
five
and
attending
kindergarten,
so
for
me,
she'll
be
moving
on,
but
for
everybody
else,
it's
it
isn't
fair
that
you
know.
H
However,
we
support
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
I
am
a
resident,
but
for
the
parents
who
have
children
that
live
and
maybe
Rancho
Mirage
Cathedral,
City,
Palm,
Desert,
Desert
Hot
Springs
believe
that
they
volunteer
in
Palm,
Springs
and
dine
in
Palm
Springs
and
bring
money
to
Palm
Springs
shopping
and
through
other
they
don't
necessarily
live
in
Palm
Springs,
but
a
lot
of
people's
activities
and
such
are
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
My
24
year
old
son
attended
this
program
18
years
ago
and
for
a
program
that
has
been
here
for
37
years.
H
That's
some
people's
car
payments
or
you
know
a
big
part
of
their
mortgage.
So
where
does
that?
Leave
us
and
the
taxpayers
are
tired
of
pain
for
Head
Start
and
all
these
entitlements
and
subsidies.
And
then
it's
basically,
if
you
do
this,
it's
going
to
leave
the
middle
class
out
in
the
cold
as
usual,
with
no
option
and
we're
we're.
Where
are
the
other
children,
the
thirty
kids
enrolled
there
now
or
siblings,
or
people
planning
to
attend?
Where
are
they
to
go
so
I
hope
that
you
will
consider
leaving
this
program
in
place.
H
It's
a
wonderful
program.
I
mean
the
children
are
reading.
They're
writing.
There
are
four
years
old
they're
reading
and
writing
and
they're
writing
their
first
and
last
names
they're
counting
to
100-
and
you
know
it
would
just
be
a
shame
to
have
pumps
rings,
unified,
come
in
and
have
another
Head
Start
program
take
over
what
we
have
and
what
we
deserve
also,
as
taxpayers
I
think
that
our
tax
dollars
working
for
us
I
think
that
we
deserve
that.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
I
I
I
You
know
somebody
really
recognized
my
name
because
I
am
a
journalist
and
I've
been
a
resident
in
earnest
with
their
son
for
the
last
fourteen
years,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
here
to
give
you
my
testimony
on
what
it
has
been
for
us
as
a
family
to
have
this
program
that
I,
so
you
know,
was
alluded
earlier
for
us
so
they're
in
a
socio-economic
class
that
necessarily
don't
qualify
for
a
headstart.
We
don't
really
make
the
amount
of
money
to
spend
a
thousand
dollars
on
a
private
school.
I
This
program
has
allowed
us
for
I
mean
it's
just
a
foundation
for
these
children
to
move
on
to
kindergarten.
With
a
thirty
years
of
experience
in
the
program,
you
can't
you
built
that
over
a
legacy
and
I
think
that,
for
myself
as
a
family
for
my
child,
for
my
older
son,
who's
nine
years
old,
it
gave
him
a
foundation
that
I
think
that's
irreplaceable
in
the
community
and
I.
Think
that
we
opted
to.
I
You
know
continue
with
this
program,
because
the
values
of
Palm
Springs
City
has
with
diversity,
inclusion
and
many
other
aspects
that
we
that
we
also
share.
I,
think
those
are
things
that
were
most
valuable,
that
children
are
able
to
learn
to
give
them
success
in
in
the
public
educational
system.
So
you
know,
as
I
can
say,
I'm
not
here
to
advocate
for
one
or
the
other
things
I'm
just
here
to
give
you
my
testimony
for
what
it
has
been
for.
I
My
family
I
think
that
you
know
finding
or
losing
something
like
this,
for
the
community
would
definitely
have
an
impact
for
at
least
of
those
30
families.
So
I
do
really
appreciate
your
time
and
I
hope
that
you
take
our
testimony
into
consideration.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
both
for
coming
up.
J
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
my
name
is
Gemma
barrister
and
this
is
Kiana.
She
represents
one
of
the
three-year-old
that's
going
through
that
tiny
tots
program
and
we
actually
are
from
the
city
have
moved
back
to
beautiful
Palm
Springs
because
of
again
inclusion,
diversity
and
what
I've
seen
so
far
is
there
is
that
portion
of
middle
class?
We
can
actually
say,
there's
a
middle
class
level
here,
and
would
it
be
nice
to
have
a
city
address
the
needs
of
the
middle
class?
J
And
so
that's
why
we're
all
here
to
say
that
where
we
are
always
appreciative
and
supportive
of
the
Head
Start
program
and
certain
programs
that
deal
with
certain
income
brackets,
but
don't
forget
us
and
I
think
the
tiny
tots
program
is
a
great
advancement
in
really
thinking
about
the
middle
class.
Thank
you.
J
K
Hi
very
nice
to
see
all
of
you
again.
My
name
is
Liz
glass
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
tiny
tots
program
as
well.
I
have
a
four
year
old,
granddaughter
that
attends
and
I
have
a.
Let's
see
how
old
is
my
youngest
daughter.
She
attended,
she's
gonna
be
32
and
I
have
to
tell
you.
I
have
been
a
resident
here
since
Moses
was
an
altar
boy
been
here
forever.
My
businesses
are
here
raised
my
family
here.
K
There
is
no
better
legacy
for
these
darling,
tiny
tots
than
this
program
that
Palm
Springs
has
had
for
decades.
I
know
that
we
have
had
many
other
programs
in
place
through
Parks
and
Rec,
but
this
one
has
stood
the
the
time
through
everything
and
it's
our
city
is
so
unique.
It's
so
diverse.
We
have
so
much
to
offer
these
kids.
Why
take
that
away
from
them?
I
mean
yes,
headstart
is
amazing
program,
but
this
isn't
about
classes,
lower
class
upper
class
middle
class.
It's
not
about
classes!
K
It's
about
our
kids
and
our
kids
are
our
future
and
you
know
Palm
Springs.
It's
like
no
other
place
right
so
I
mean
let's
give
back
to
our
kids.
They
are
gonna,
be
taking
care
of
us.
We
want
them
to
have
these
values
instilled
in
them
before
they
hit
school,
whether
they
go
to
public
school
private,
school
what-have-you.
But
this
program
is
amazing:
I
mean
I've,
seen
it
with
my
granddaughter
Santa
and
I've
seen
it
with
now.
I
do
have
an
older,
older
daughter.
K
She
didn't
attend
that
because
I
don't
know
why
she
didn't
attend
that,
but
my
younger
daughter
did
and
they
still
have
those
same
friends,
even
though
they
went
on
to
other
schools
and
what-have-you,
that
those
bonds
that
these
kids
make
at
this
young
age
it
lasts
for
a
lifetime,
and
you
know
what
Palm
Springs
we
are
giving
this
to
these
children.
Let's
not
take
it
away
from
them.
I
mean
this
is
so
important.
K
L
I'm
Dean
vanjani
I'm,
the
USAPA
pickleball
ambassador
for
Palm
Springs
I,
came
for
two
reasons
today,
one
to
give
you
a
pickleball,
update
and
two
to
tell
you
about
what
we're
doing
at
the
Unity
Center
and
what
we
have
planned
for
the
future.
First,
on
pickleball
I'd
like
to
invite
you
all
to
the
Lakes
Country
Club
this
weekend,
where
all
the
professionals
and
amateurs
are
playing
over
400
players.
We
were
playing
this
tournament
so
open
to
the
public,
is
free
and
encouraged
to
come
out.
The
Lakes
Country
Club
is
an
awesome
venue.
L
L
It
was
very
well
attended,
so
I
encourage
you
all
to
come
out
and
as
far
as
the
Unity
Center
we're
really
attracting
a
lot
of
players
up
there
now
from
10:00
to
1:00,
we
have
20
players
every
day,
so
both
courts
are
full
and
two
more
groups
are
waiting
and,
as
I'm
sure,
you've
seen
when
you
drive
by
Duluth
Park
outdoors,
there's
50
60
people
waiting.
It's
just
exploding.
L
Also
the
country
clubs
are
again
converting
so
there's
a
lot
of
private
play
as
well
as
this
public
play
and
also
the
Unity
Center
we're
attempting
to
start
a
new
program
there.
One
of
our
players
is
a
fourth
degree
master
martial
artist
in
the
Korean
gum
dough
as
part
of
Taekwondo
and
since
we're
doing
karate
at
the
Duluth
Park
gym
we'd
like
to
now
request
your
help
in
starting
a
program
that
we
will
have
funded
with
donations.
So
we're
not
asking
for
any
money.
We
just
want
space
and
a
time
frame
which
to
do
it.
L
We
have
several
people
who
are
interested
in
supporting
this
I'd
like
to
pass
out
because
gum
dough
isn't
really
known
it's
a
part
of
Taekwondo.
Is
it's
used
with
swords
and
swordsmanship?
It's
a
very
elite
part
of
Taekwondo,
so
I
believe
we
can
attract
Taekwondo
martial
artists
not
only
from
Palm
Springs
or
the
Coachella
Valley,
but
from
a
larger
region,
because
there
are
only
20
of
these
masters
in
the
country.
He's
willing
to
start
this
program
and
we're
going
to
do
no
or
low
cost
to
the
students.
L
So
if
we
could
right
now,
Vickie
is
gonna,
be
interviewing
him
and
I'm.
Also
going
through
the
live
scan.
I'll
be
volunteering
at
the
Unity.
Center
saw
be
an
official
volunteer
with
my
wife
and
so
we'll
be
background,
checked
and
thank
you
all
for
your
support.
Pickleball
is
exploding
and
I've
really
appreciate
all
your
support
and
helping
that
happen
in
Palm,
Springs,
Thank,
You,
Dean.
C
Hello,
my
name
is
crystal
yo
Kim
kiss
I'm
here,
because
my
daughter
Charlie
Rose,
is
in
tiny
tots
right
now,
she'll
be
in
kindergarten
next
year.
So
whatever
changes
you
decide
to
make
does
not
affect
us
in
any
way
as
a
family.
My
son
is
in
second
grade
and
he
also
into
tiny
tots
and
he's
at
Cielo
Vista
right
now
we
are.
We
live
in
Cathedral
City,
but
we
go
to
school
in
Palm
Springs.
She
goes
to
preschool
in
Palm
Springs
and
my
husband
is
a
teacher
in
Palm
Springs,
it
the
high
school.
C
So
that
said,
we
love
tiny
tots.
So
much
my
kids.
Well,
let's
say:
okay,
I
tried
to
home-school,
didn't
work
out
so
well.
They
don't
listen
to
me,
but
the
amazing
teachers
at
tiny
tots
are
just
I,
don't
know
they
get
through
to
them.
They're
amazing,
I
I
think
head
starts
wonderful
for
the
low
income
I
mean.
Did
you
guys
look
at
those
numbers,
though
I
mean
that
is
really
that
number
of
the
the
poverty
levels.
So,
though
we're
one
income
family,
I'm,
not
I,
cannot
afford
the
king
school
preschool.
C
I
can't
afford
Montessori,
but
I
can
afford
this
program.
It's
you
know
it's
a
hundred
dollars
a
month
roughly.
She
goes
three
hours
a
day
four
days
a
week
and
she
comes
out
a
happy
camper
right,
charlie.
Yes,
do
you
love
tiny
tots,
tell
them
how
much
you
love
it!
It's
so
much
anyway!
So
I
just
want
you
guys
just
to
consider
these
middle-class
families
that
I
can't
do
can't
couldn't
couldn't
go
over
to
those
preschools.
But
I
can
do
this
and
I'm
so
happy.
It's
just
a
little
family
they're.
C
C
Welcome
hi,
my
name
is
Marlena
Salgado,
and
this
is
Emma
and
she
attends
the
tiny
tots
program
next
year,
she'll
be
moving
on
to
TK.
So
this
won't
affect
her
if
you
guys
were
take
the
program
away,
but
I
feel
passionate
about
this
program,
because
I
have
six
children,
they've
all
went
to
the
private
schools,
except
for
her.
The
she
knows
more
than
my
other
children
learned
the
whole
years.
They
were
there
from
the
age
of
two
I
put
all
of
my
children
in
school.
C
She
knows
more
just
coming
to
this
program
than
any
of
them
have
learned.
She
can
write
her
first
name,
her
last
name.
She
knows
the
consonants.
She
knows
things
that
are
just
it's
unbelievable.
What
they
teach
her
within
a
couple
hours
of
her
attending
I
would
hate
to
see
this
program
go
away
for
any
family
that
could
use
this.
It
benefits
our
children,
it's
just
I,
don't
know
the
way
she
comes
home.
The
way
she
feels
it's
just
a
happy
feeling
to
know
that
she's
happy.
M
M
My
son
is
in
tiny
tots.
He
is
four
years
old.
He
will
be
going
to
see
Ella
Vista
next
in
August
and
I
have
a
seven-year-old
in
CLO
Vista
charter.
That
was
also
in
tiny
tots.
They
are
both
blossoming,
blossoming
young
boys
and
I
would
hate
to
see
this
program
taken
away,
like
the
others
have
said,
I'm
not
able
to
afford
a
different
preschool
private
preschool.
Most
of
them
require
full
day
and
that's
not
possible
for
us
to
pay
that
tuition,
and
we
also
don't
fall
in
the
low-income.
M
We
had
a
pool
similar
to
Palm
Desert
Aquatic
Center,
where
there's
many
kids
activities
slides,
doesn't
seem,
there's
not
very
much
similar
to
that
in
Palm
Springs,
it
seems
like
children
are
kind
of
forgotten
at
times,
and
I
would
hate
for
this
type
of
program
to
be
taken
away,
because
it
is
one
valuable
program
and
it's
really
needed.
I
also
have
a
15
month
old
child
at
home,
and
he
would
be
in
this
program
as
well,
so
please
consider
keeping
it
for
the
future
generations.
Thank
you.
C
I
am
Jack
Quinn
Daniels,
and
this
is
Alanna
Daniels.
She
attends
the
tiny
tots
as
well
and
we
do
not
want
tiny
tots
ago.
She
said
why.
Why
are
you
taking
it
away?
Please
don't
take
it
away.
She
attends
the
tiny
tots
program
she
started
a
year
ago,
so
she
was
three.
She
just
turned
four
and
in
the
beginning
she
was
shy,
see
she
wants
to
talk
now.
C
C
Just
I
mean
she
loves
the
teachers.
She
loves
the
atmosphere,
just
everything
about
tiny
tots.
She
loves
so
we're
just
saying:
don't
take
it
away,
because
this
is
our
future
like
we,
it
tiny
tots
helps
our
kids,
so
we're
just
saying:
yeah
I
won't
be
little,
don't
take
tiny,
tots
away
cuz.
It
helps
our
kids
I'm
I
live
here.
C
I'm
I
live
in
Rancho
Mirage
I've
been
here
ten
plus
years
when
I've
worked
different
locations,
I
worked
for
Enterprise,
rent-a-car
I,
don't
know
fifty
before,
but
seven
years
I
was
there
and
I
picked
several
people
up
in
the
community
and
I
mean
I
just
I
just
love
the
entire
community,
Rancho
Mirage
Palm
Springs
I
mean
I'm.
Just
saying:
don't
take
away
our
tiny
tots,
please
because
she
loves
it.
J
My
name
is
Angela
Williams
I've
had
two
children
go
through
the
tiny
tots
program.
I
have
a
second
grader
at
Katherine
finchy,
who,
at
that
time,
Miss
Angela
was
her
teacher
over
there,
as
we
all
know
and
love
Miss
Angela.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
students
went
through
her
classrooms
and
her
doors
right
now.
I
have
pearl
and
she
started
the
program
last
summer
for
the
summer
camp
program,
which
was
just
so
amazing
for
her.
That
was
her
first
experience
really
being
away
from
me.
J
She
was
three
and
a
half
and
had
an
amazing
summer
there,
and
you
know
I
guess
for
her.
She
just
turned
4
so
for
next
year.
If
this
program
goes
away,
then
you
know,
for
our
family
will
be
in
a
situation
of
having
to
find
another
preschool.
Is
some
of
the
other
parents
talked
about
for
the
for
us?
That
would
mean
trying
to
find
the
extra
money
to
pay
for
first
school
or
king
school
creative
beginnings.
You
know
the
Montessori
schools,
which
are
quadruple
the
cost
of
what
it
the
tiny
tots
program
is
I
know.
J
I
can't
speak
for
anyone
else
here,
but
if,
if
you
know,
even
if
the
tiny
tots
program
doubled
in
cost,
that
would
still
be
affordable
and
that's
something
my
family
could
could
do
so.
If
the
I
guess
the
idea
is,
if,
if
it's
more
beneficial
to
the
city
financially,
to
have
a
head
start
program
in
that
space,
I
mean
what
you
know
is
that
something
that
could
be
considered?
Maybe
you
know,
upping
the
tuition
at
tiny
tots
a
little
bit
to
help
offset
some
of
those
those
costs.
J
I
mean
all
of
the
elementary
schools
at
this
time
already
have
Head
Start
programs
right.
So
all
of
the
public
elementary
schools,
you
know
already
have
headstart
on
campus
so
and
it
doesn't
really
seem
like
you
know,
I
was
I
was
reading
over
this.
It
kind
of
seems
like
the
the
Palm
Springs
Unified
School
District
is
trying
to
find
classrooms
for
up
to
a
hundred.
J
Children
that
are
in
need
had
starter
on
a
wait
list
for
Head
Start
I
mean
the
the
classroom
at
the
leisure
center
can
only
have
up
30,
kids,
so
you're
still
looking
at
a
long
list
of
kids.
Still
waiting,
you
know
for
a
space
in
headstart,
you
know
perhaps
the
school
district.
Can
you
know
accommodate
that
through
other
means?
J
Getting
you
know,
I,
don't
know,
convert
them
all
I,
don't
know
malls
been
sitting
there
empty
for
years,
still
very
close,
so
it
seems
like
they
could
find
a
bigger
space
that
would
actually
accommodate
their
long
list
of
you
know:
I
guess
families
that
are
that
are
waiting
for
their
children
to
get
inside
start.
As
far
as
the
Chinese
hats
program
goes,
though,
I
can't
say
enough,
amazing
things
about
all
of
the
teachers
that
are
currently
there
about
the
you
know:
Miss
Angela,
that
was
there
for
so
many
years
in
the
past.
J
A
N
Good
afternoon
commissioners
I'm
Roy
Clark
I'm,
the
the
assistant
chairperson
of
the
sustainability
Commission.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
be
here
this
afternoon
to
talk.
The
city
of
Palm.
Springs
has
received
grants
from
Cal
recycle
to
purchase
recycling
containers
for
beverage,
containers,
cans
and
bottles.
N
We
believe
that
the
purchase
of
containers
may
have
to
be
approved
by
the
City
Council,
depending
upon
the
quantity
of
and
type
that
we
come
up
with.
But
before
we
made
a
decision
about
purchasing
containers
or
making
a
recommendation.
The
waste
reduction
committee
of
the
sustainability
Commission
decided
to
survey
on
recycling
and
trash
containers
in
various
areas
of
the
city,
the
airport,
City,
Hall,
downtown
and
parks.
N
We
decided
as
a
committee,
to
focus
on
parks,
and
we
would
like
to
collaborate
with
your
commission
and
that's
why
I'm
here
today,
the
the
goal
of
the
sustainability
Commission
is
to
increase
awareness
and
promote
recycling
within
the
city.
We
have
a
good
recycling
program
for
homes,
but
we
it
appears
to
be
somewhat
lacking
in
other
areas
of
the
city.
N
It
should
be
noted
that
the
effort
that
we're
at
the
effort
that
we're
talking
about
is
limited
to
beverage
containers,
but
it's
a
good
start
for
increasing
recycling
within
the
city
in
public
areas.
We
thought
that
you
might
be
interested
in
the
type
number
and
placement
of
containers
within
the
parks
if
we
focus
on
them.
So
so
what
we
did
is
the
three
members
of
the
waste
reduction
committee
did
a
survey
of
three
of
the
parks
to
move
the
park
authority
park
and
sunrise
park,
and
we
wanted
to
go
through
quickly.
N
The
pictures
that
we
took
just
to
show
you
the
the
status
of
containers
in
the
parks,
the
first
ones
that
are
up
there
are
DeMuth
Park
and
those
were
taken
by
Jessica
spry.
The
this
picture
show
is
like
they
get
sits
next
to
the
community
center,
where
there's
a
standard
blue
recycling
container
that
phds
picks
up
in
a
pretty
standard
type
of
trash
container
in
the
in
the
in
the
park.
N
B
N
That's
that's
just
a
difference.
Well,
I'll
I'll
improvise.
Here
what
we
did
is
we
went
through
the
three
parks
Jessica
did
to
muth.
This
almost
would
go
through
the
slides,
we'll,
probably
find
the
standards
type
of
of
trash
container.
There
are
21
blue
containers
in
in
in
DeMuth
Park,
and
there
was
only
one
other
container
that
was
labeled
recycling
within
the
park.
N
Sunrise
park
was
done
by
Rob
McCann
who's
sitting
in
the
front
row
there
he
has
a
chart
which
shows
containers
throughout
the
park
and
there
were
about
ten
different
types
of
containers
in
different
states
of
repair
you'll
see
in
his
photo,
and
none
for
recycling
and
I
did
I.
Did
a
survey
of
Ruth
Hardy
Park
and
there
were
green
containers
for
of
a
standard
type
distributed
around
the
park
and
I
didn't
see
any
contain
any
containers
there
for
recycling.
N
Small
round
holes
for
recycling
containers,
some
recycling
containers
with
slots
to
show
that
paper
goes
in
there
and
bigger
openings
in
the
trailer
containers.
Color
is
varied
amongst
the
different
types
of
containers.
Blue
is
standard
for
recycling
because
we
all
know
there
are
instructions
on
the
containers
describing
in
words
or
symbols
or
pictures.
What
is
it
appropriate
to
dispose
in
the
container?
There
are
some
containers
that
are
transparent.
There
are
some
that
are
opaque.
N
We
should
also
consider
in
looking
at
containers
theft
resistance,
not
only
if
the
container
themselves
containers
themselves,
but
what
is
inside
the
containers,
bottles
and
cans
right
now
happen
to
be
the
most
lucrative
thing
for
turning
in
for
recycling
as
opposed
to
paper,
so
that
there
would
be
a
tendency
for
those
to
be
stolen.
We
also
also
should
consider
ease
of
these
of
maintenance.
N
Keeping
the
containers
in
good
shape,
also
ease
of
emptying
the
containers,
which
is
something
that
both
of
those
which
I'm
sure
Stacey
would
be
interested
in.
So
I'll
go
through
the
pictures
here
and
we'll
see
what
we
have
this.
These
were
DeMuth
Park,
as
I
mentioned.
These
are
new
containers.
This
is
the
multi
multi-use
container.
This
one
actually
was
taken
found
and
picture
was
taken
at
Costco,
but
you
can
see
the
slots
are
appropriate
for
recycling
versus
trash
and
there
are
pictures
to
show
that
bottles
and
cans
going
the
recycling
part
on
on
the
right.
N
N
And
and
the
one
on
the
right
was
in
in
one
of
the
tennis
courts:
these
are
the
photos
from
sunrise
Park
that
Rob
took.
You
can
see
this
quite
a
variety
of
types
of
containers.
There
are
some
of
the
standard,
rectangular
type
of
containers
that
we
saw
in
ruth
hardy
park,
some
barrels
as
well,
but
a
wide
variety
of
types
of
containers.
They
have
they're
all
trash
containers.
N
N
There
are
others
with
different
types
of
graphics
and
wording
on
them
to
try
to
make
it
clear
what
goes
in
the
containers.
So
basically,
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
present
this
information
to
you.
We
have
the
the
funds
to
purchase
recycling
containers,
and
one
suggestion
which
is
open
for
discussion
is
that
we
might
form
a
a
Joint,
Commission
small
ad-hoc
committee,
to
investigate
the
types
of
containers
and
determine
what
would
be
the
best
and
what
the
best
placement
might
be.
Thank
you.
F
I
feel
like
we're
back
to
the
future,
because
there's
a
lot
of
history,
I
guess
this
happens
when
Commission's
change
over,
but
in
2014
the
sustainability
Commission
worked
with
this
commission
you're
applying
we
added
I,
think
ten
recycling
containers
to
the
park
so
they're
supposed
to
people,
I
didn't
DeMuth
in
the
covered
picnic
area,
DeMuth,
ballfields,
seven
and
eight.
The
noise
bark
big
big
area
bridge
still
parked
near
the
playground.
Ruth
Harvey
Park
was
signed
by
the
tennis
courts
in
Victoria
Park
in
the
covered
picnic
area.
F
So
this
was
a
year
of
platy
and
was
paid
for
not
of
the
money
you're
talking
about,
but
sustainability
always
has
a
large
recycling
fund
as
well
right.
Yes,
you
know
how
much
money
is
in
that
not
at
the
top
of
my
head.
I
think
is
a
lot
of
money,
so
there's
there's
more
money
than
just
the
state
money.
If
we
were
gonna
proceed
with
the
more
comprehensive
program,
I
think
at
the
time-
and
these
were
put
in
August
2015
I'm,
assuming
they're
still
there
in
these
parks.
F
But
when
the
Commission,
this
commission
voted
on
it,
J
Thompson,
the
city
clerk,
was
involved
with
that,
and
he
said
that
at
that
point,
that
was
a
baby
step.
It's
so
the
full
intention
to
expand
recycling
in
the
parks.
There
was
concerned
about
people
taking
cans
out
of
there.
I
think
Gary
Calhoun
was
supposed
to
do
a
study
on
you
know
the
usage
in
purpose.
I,
don't
know
if
that
ever
happened.
F
Our
city
recycling,
director
our
manager,
so
we
already
actually
Arden
record
or
this
commission
I
was
in
on
n
time-
was
honestly
a
sustainability
at
the
time
to
to
add
recycling
containers
to
the
parks,
but
part
of
that
problem
was
to
examine
the
usage
and
any
potential
problems
that
they
may
have
contributed
to.
I
think
there
were
some
concerns
about
people
going
through
the
recycling
containers
and
throwing
them
all
around
things
out
of
them,
or
something
like
that
so
I
just
wanted
to.
N
Thank
you
for
the
information
we
tried
to
get
some
history.
We
we
we
couldn't,
but
that's
one
reason
why
we
decided
before
we
went
ahead
and
did
anything
as
far
as
purchasing
containers
go.
Is
that
we
would
take
a
look
for
ourselves
and
you
know
the
results
are
what
I
described
and
we
saw
very
few
recycling
containers
in
the
parks.
A
A
O
Downtown
probably
has
very
specific
needs
I'm
compared
to
the
parks
and
to
kind
of
piggyback
on
what
Commissioner
Armstrong
the
same.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
theft
of
the
few
labeled
recycling
containers,
theft
and
more
than
that
destruction
tipping
over
spreading
them
across
the
parks
to
you
know,
makes
up
a
pretty
good-sized
mess
with
some
frequency.
One
of
the
reasons
you
see
the
variety
there
is
couple
years
ago.
We
also
had
a
downtown
demonstration
of
benches
and
trash
cans.
O
The
first
time
we
went
through
this
rendition
and
the
items
that
were
used
for
that
demonstration.
We're
then
dispersed
through
the
parks.
So
that's
why
you're
seeing
some
of
the
variety
that
you're,
seeing
along
with
trash
and
recycling
and
benches
and
and
again
each
Park,
has
different
plans
and
how
they
were
designed
and
what
the
goal
was
for
the
primary
use:
I'm
not
adverse
and
I
love
the
idea
that
you're
taking
maintenance
into
consideration.
Thank
you
for
that
Roy,
but
I
do
have
concerns
about
just
overall
in
general.
O
O
Most
of
it,
but
we
have
right
there
is
we
have
concrete
wood,
then
there's
actually
steel
or
aluminum
inside
the
easiest
access
means
the
easiest
access.
So
what
generally
happens
of
folks
that
want
the
recyclables
will
just
dump
the
entire
container,
and
that's
where
we're
we're
struggling
I
like
the
idea
of
the
see-through
that
would
be
great
and
I.
Think
that
may
be
visually
would
help
people
to
actually
see
what
they're
putting
in,
but
for
us
the
minimal
impact.
D
So
you're
not
opposed
to
a
lock
that
somebody
would
have
to
go
through
to
be
able
to
get
through
it,
because
I
have
that
issue
in
I
have
two
containers
that
sit
next
to
each
other
ones,
blue
and
very
vivid
ones.
Orange.
And
nobody
knows
what
goes
in
what
right,
even
though
there's
labels
and
texts
and
everything
on
them.
So
a
clear
version
of
that
and.
O
Again,
one
of
the
one
of
the
bigger
concerns
we
had
when
when
we
went
through
this
the
program
with
Michelle,
we
had
the
same
problem
we
actually
had.
Commissioners
cuz
I
was
actually
on
the
sustainability
Commission
and
one
of
the
people
that
went
out.
We
went
out
and
did
an
audit
of
the
recycling
content.
Most
of
it
was
black
trash
in
the
recycling
bins
and
that's
what
a
lot
of
people
didn't
understand.
We
had
that
in
the
parks
in
downtown
and
it
it
wasn't.
O
It
wasn't
successful
in
that
manner
in
the
sense
that
what
we
thought
putting
all
this
effort
into
here-
everybody's
gonna,
recycle
them-
and
maybe
you
know,
10
15
percent
did,
but
you
get
enough
black
trash
in
there
and
it's
not
worth
it
so
most
of
it
got
thrown
away
regardless,
and
that
was
one
of
the
hard
realities.
I
have
yet
to
see
a
program.
That's
foolproof,
I.
A
Wonder
to
the
the
fact
that
so
many
events
are
unpermitted,
but
it
seems
like
if
you
went
back
to
the
start
and
said
oh
you're
having
an
event
here
with
six
or
greater
people.
There
is
no
fee
up
to
fifty,
but
you're
required
to
segregate
your
trash,
walking.
Ruth
Hardy,
Park
I
will
see
regularly
on
Sunday
mornings
at
seven
o'clock
a
bag
or
somebody
had
a
party
yesterday
and
it
couldn't
fit
in
the
container,
but
they
actually
bagged
it
and
set
it
by
the
side,
and
it
would
be
great
if
somehow
they
bagged.
A
B
D
O
What
we
have
are
basically
in
the
concrete
with
the
it's:
it
wasn't
one
that
slideshows
but
they're,
they're,
basically
a
concrete
with
a
aluminum
inside.
We
also
have
some
that
have
a
side
by
side
that
are
concrete,
that's
just
say
recycling
on
the
side,
and
we
also
have
some
solar
bellies,
fewer
and
fewer
of
those
multiple
issues,
the
the
concrete
side
by
side
we
almost
guarantee
every
morning
when
the
crew
comes
in
at
4:00
a.m.
that's
gonna
be
screwing
across
them
did
the
street
and
the
sidewalk.
O
Now
the
merchants
are
very
familiar
with
that
too,
and
we
get
pretty
good.
We
amount
of
requests
for
merchants
to
relocate
benches
trash
cans,
especially
recycling.
As
far
as
the
solar
bellies.
Those
were
great
in
theoretical
practice,
but
when
you
put
especially
food
debris-
and
we
have
an
event
every
week,
downtown
living
yeah,
we
have
a
lot
of
food
waste
and
the
solar
bellies
are
designed
to
use
solar
power
to
compress
and
then
sit
and
build
up
a
certain
quantity
before
it
needs
to
be
emptied
with
black
waste,
especially
food
waste
to
120
degrees.
D
Do
the
side-by-sides
have
a
way,
or
is
there
a
better
design
of
that
kind
of
concept
to
make
them
lockable
so
that
the
inner
container
cannot
be
pulled
out
because
trying
to
create
a
uniform
here's?
My
idea
trying
to
create
a
uniform
system
across
the
city
so
that
your
service
people
who
are
going
to
empty
those
things
are
dealing
with
the
same
kind
of
container
everywhere
is
gonna,
be
a
better
option
and
it
would
be
more
visually
appealing.
But
this
is
the
same
thing
everywhere
that
you
use
in
the
city.
O
There
is
a
demonstration
area
right
now
downtown
on
the
plaza
and
there
is
a
trash,
can
combination,
recycling
bin,
that's
being
demonstrated
there
again.
This
is
all
very
tentative
and
you
know
just
put
forth
ideas,
but
I'm
actually
a
proponent
of
that,
because
it
has
a
very
small
section
for
the
recycling
with
its
small,
an
oval
round
with
two
openings
on
the
side
for
cans
bottles.
It
may
only
hold
eight
or
ten,
but
you
can
put
the
paper
in
there.
You
can
put
all
those
things
and
it's
completely
separate
from
the
waste
bin
below.
O
O
E
It
starts
in
elementary
school
and
you'll,
see
in
a
during
lunch
that
every
single
student
has
to
take
their
tray
and
it
has
to
put
their
recycle
the
compostable
in
the
trash,
and
so
that
was
my
experience
in
San
Francisco
and
it's
really
interesting
I
since
I
was
in
San
Francisco
and
they
have
these
very
strong
campaigns
and
have
educated
their
residents
and
their
visitors.
It's
like
my
recycle
personally
in
the
city.
E
My
recycle
is
like
three
times
of
my
trash,
like
I
have
one
bag
once
a
week
that
gets
picked
up
and
I
might
have
like
four
to
five
recycle,
because
once
you
realize
I
mean
recycle
just
grows.
So
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
have
that
be
a
consideration
as
you
have
the
expense
and
you
roll
out
new
product
I.
O
Know
for
us
historically,
Blue
has
been
our
recycle
and
Green
has
been
our
landscape
trimming
I
mean
that's
what
we've
always
done
to
my
knowledge
and
in
10
13
years.
Here
that's
been
our
when
we
have
the
possibility
to
choose
the
color,
it's
different.
Otherwise,
it's
the
labels
and
and
the
lettering
and
lettering
and
multi-language
and.
E
I
also
want
to
say,
if
I
may,
that,
where
I
understand
see-through
is
a
visual
and
if
you
actually,
if
we
as
a
city,
provide
the
education
for
our
consumers,
then
we
won't
have
the
eyesore
of
something
that's
see-through,
that
we
see
all
of
that
which
would
really
I
think
bring
our
property
values
down.
As
far
as
you
know,
our
areas
I'm.
J
A
The
three
commissioners,
who
are
the
ambassadors
to
those
parks
would
consider
joining
this
and
and
and
maybe
once
we
get
it
going,
you
know
one
can
represent
going
forward,
but
I
think
initially
I,
don't
mind
I'm
one
of
the
ambassadors
for
for
Ruth
Hardy
Park.
We've
recently
asked
commissioners
just
step
forward
and
become
ambassadors
of
Park
stakes
take
over
a
park.
So,
if
is
that
acceptable?
I
don't
have
the
list
in
front
of
me
of
who
the
Johnny
Ellen
yeah
I
have
to
move
part
Ellen
and
I
or
Michael.
A
You
or
I
can
can
do
that.
It
either
way,
but
I
think
if
we
can
at
least
sit
in
on
the
initial
phase
and
kind
of
weigh
in
on
our
parks.
The
other
thing
you
know
some
of
this
will
grow.
The
ambassadorship
has
just
started
out,
we're
not
sure
quite
all
what
that
means,
but
it
may
well,
you
know,
come
to
getting
together
with
volunteer
Palm
Springs
and
engaging
people
who
are
assigned
to
the
park
seven
days
a
week,
who
are
there
three
hours
a
day
during
high
use
periods
to
just
say
to
people.
A
F
First
I
want
to
say:
I
mean
we
need
more
recycling
options
in
our
parks.
That's
just
saying:
2014
we
started
that
there
are
some
people
saying
we
do
need
any
well
I.
Think
when
we
surveyed
Ruth
Hardy,
there
were
40
30
to
40
trash
cans.
They
are
not
a
single
recycling
fan
exactly
a
sufficient
good
medicine
I
mean
when
you
look
at
what
you're
doing
at
home.
F
So
if
you
take
that
average,
what
are
in
those
40
40
containers,
but
people
have
to
use
the
containers
we
have
and
I
think
key
is
the
right
containers
and
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
those
containers
back
three
or
four
years
ago.
You
know
Elsa
live
it
was
there
were
some
containers
available,
I,
think
and
so
I
think
that's
really
really
key
I
mean
we
definitely
need
these
in
our
our
parks.
F
I'd
like
to
be
part
of
this
subcommittee,
but
I
have
a
request
for
the
sustainability
commissioners,
because,
as
I
mentioned,
there
is
more
money
in
the
recycling
fund
and
I
think
that
I
know
the
city
would
like
to
use
that
money
and
if
we're
interested
in
reducing
waste
we
could
think
about.
Could
you
use
that
money
for
water
fountains,
the
kind
that
refill
water
bottles?
You
know
and
I
go
to
the
gym?
F
There's
a
counter
on
the
water
fountain
there
that
says
how
many
plastic
bottles
are
saving,
so
why
couldn't
that
money
be
used
for
not
just
the
parks
but
other
city
facilities
as
well,
and
also
there
is
some
very
innovative
things
being
done
with
dog
waste
as
well
turning
into
to
energy.
That
was
something
we
talked
several
years
on
sustainability
about
so
I
would
just
request
me.
You
guys
think
about
those
options
for
all
the
money.
That's
sitting
in
that
account
as
well.
A
N
A
Just
to
clarify,
commissioner
Goodman
is
a
paid
staff
of
the
Unified
School,
the
Palm
Springs
Unified
School
District,
and
it
would
not
be
appropriate
for
her
to
weigh
in
so
she
recusing,
herself
and
stepping
out.
So
with
that
being
said,
Vicki
you
brought
it
to
us
pretty
clearly,
but
can
you
go
through
it?
Yeah.
B
So
before
you
in
the
staff
report
is
for
you
to
review
the
staff
report
and
have
a
discussion
on
the
school
districts
request
to
lease
the
space
and
then
make
some
type
of
recommendation
of
where
you
think
the
city
should
go
again.
As
I
said:
Pompey's
Unified,
School
District
connected
the
city
several
months
ago.
Looking
for
space
to
hold
Head
Start
program,
they
currently
have
over
a
hundred
children
on
that
waiting
list
and
are
anxious
to
get
those
children
into
a
program
gave
you
a
brief
description.
Really
Head.
B
Start
is
a
program
that
is
for
those
families
living
below
the
federal
poverty
level,
and
they
do
allow
children
in
the
program
that
could
pay
and
that
would
be
10%
of
their
max
sofa
classes
24.
They
could
have
2.4
children
that
could
come
into
the
program
that
did
not
fall
within
the
federal
poverty
level
to
attend
their
program.
I
gave
you
the
numbers
of
what
the
family,
households,
numbers
and
guidelines
could
be
in
conversations
with
the
school
district,
while
there
they
have
their
enrollments
based
on
qualifications.
B
It's
based
on
the
above
mystery
categories,
the
subsidy
they
get
or
the
reimbursement
they
get
is
a
flat
reimbursement.
It's
not!
You
know
you
get
so
much
for
every
kid
that
attends
it's,
no
matter
how
many
kids
attend
based
on
the
program,
it's
a
flat
rate.
Currently
in
the
schools.
The
schools
only
get
subsidy.
If
the
child
attends
go
see,
if
your
kid
doesn't
come
to
school,
the
school
doesn't
get
paid
for
them,
whereas
headstart,
it's
just
a
flat
reimbursement.
I
shouldn't
really
tell
me
well
how
it
was
calculated,
but
it
was
a
flat
reimbursement.
B
They
got.
Pom
seems
unified
after
walking
with
them,
and
we
reviewed
desert
Highland.
We
reviewed
DeMuth
community
center
and
the
leisure
center
tiny
tot
room.
They
are
interested
in
leasing
the
space,
the
leisure
center
and
using
the
tiny
chat
room
or
youth
room
as
their
site
for
headstart.
They
would
be
running
a
program
a
morning
and
an
afternoon
program
from
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning.
B
Basically
till
three
o'clock
having
two
sessions
a
day
with
the
maximum
of
24
in
each
program
as
the
room
stands
now,
the
maximum
they
could
have
capacity
would
be
15
because
there's
only
one
bathroom
so
in
order
for
them
to
accommodate
their
maximum
of
24
they'd
need
to
add
an
additional
restroom
into
that
building.
Currently,
in
our
current
program,
we
have
30
children
that
are
enrolled
in
a
program
from
ages
three
to
four
years
and
nine
months.
B
At
this
time
we
don't
know
the
number
of
children
in
that
program
that
might
be
able
to
qualify
for
headstart
as
far
as
federal
poverty
levels,
but
obviously
there
could
be
the
ten
percent
again
if
there
was
space
allowable
to
allow
them
into
the
program.
In
addition
to
other
programs,
we
have
also
our
after-school
program.
F
field
also
uses
that
program
in
that
youth
room
in
the
afternoon.
B
We
have
about
75,
80,
kids,
and
so,
when
you're
trying
to
do
homework
with
first
graders
or
actually
kindergartners
through
eighth
graders,
it
makes
it
really
tough
in
one
big
room,
so
we
split
him
in
half,
so
our
kindergartners
do
fourth
graders
go
into
the
youth
room
to
do
their
homework
with
staff.
The
remaining
children
fifth
through
eighth
graders,
stay
in
the
pavilion
with
the
older
staff,
with
you,
with
my
staff
and
and
they're
getting
their
homework
done.
B
So,
if
you
through
is
leased
to
the
school
district,
then
we'll
need
to
find
additional
space
to
provide
for
the
younger
children
to
do
the
homework
for
the
after-school
program
as
well.
The
impact
to
fiscal
impact
in
order
again,
like
I,
said
for
the
school
district
to
come
in
and
operate
the
program
with
our
maximum.
They
would
need
to
add
another
restroom
based
on
my
walk
through
with
the
school
district
staff.
They
estimated
that
would
would
be
a
cost
of
about
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
add
one
bathroom
into
that
room.
B
B
We
could
look
at
the
cost
of
that
50,000
as
the
potential
least
that
we
could
get
from
the
school
district,
but
I
don't
know
where
we're
at
on
that
I.
Don't
there's
been
discussions
on
bond?
What
they're
willing
to
pay
I
haven't
been
privy
to
that
conversations,
but
there
could
be
a
again
the
payback
they
we
pay,
50,000
dude
the
bathroom
server.
D
B
B
D
B
D
B
P
B
P
B
P
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I've
got
a
couple.
Questions
I
think
this
document
is
is
a
good
basic
document,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
impact
in
my
mind
that
as
I
read
through
it
I
couldn't
see
the
impact
addressed.
So
the
space
is
not
currently
vacant
and
read
about
rentable.
It
is
occupied,
correct.
Yes,.
B
We
haven't
really
got
that
far
I
mean
we
could
we
could
look
at
other
locations.
You
know
we
could
look
at
moon,
it's
a
Moo
community
center.
Is
that
ideal?
Probably
not,
but
you
know,
there's
no
playground
there
and
the
close
vicinity
they
have
to
go
to
the
other
in
the
park.
They
want
to
use
the
playground.
B
We
love
modifying
the
restrooms
I
think
the
room
there
that
we
would
use
isn't
as
large
as
the
youth
room
at
the
community
at
the
leisure
center,
so
we
probably
wouldn't
be
able
to
take
as
many
children
in
the
program
as
Commissioner
pace
s.
If
there
were
parents
who
were
we're
interested,
they
could
look
at
going
up
to
James.
Oh
Jesse
doesn't
hide
immunity,
Center
and
maybe
participate
in
the
program
up
there
so
see.
A
I
guess
I
have
a
series
of
questions.
One
of
the
questions
is:
are
there
not
trailers
currently
in
adjacent
to
the
James
Oh
Jesse,
which
were
specifically
used
for
head
start
a
while
ago,
not
used
at
all
today?
Yet
there
are
a
hundred
children
that
are
on
a
list
and
we're
looking
to
rent
space.
That's
currently
occupied,
somehow
it's
just
not
tying
in
for
me
and
I.
Think
these
are
questions
that
we
need
to
ask
and
get
comfortable
with
moving
forward.
Also
I
mean
it's
not
documented
here
about.
A
Where
would
the
current
staff
go
if
the
children
go
away?
What
happens
to
the
staff?
What
happens
to
the
budget,
which
is
part
of
our
concern?
If
it's
going
to
be
layed
on
to
some
other
projects,
then
it's
gonna
bring
costs
to
things
that
we've
already
sort
of
looked
at
for
level
setting
fees,
and
then
one
of
the
parents
said
it
here.
Why
isn't
the
school
district,
adding
trailers
to
existing
schools
and
and
using
bathrooms?
You
know
that
meet
their
requirements.
A
A
C
Vicki,
just
to
clarify
you
said
for
the
after-school
program
75
to
80.
Yes,
it's
so
in
addition
to
the
30,
that
would
be
a
greatly
impacted,
it'd,
be
another
75
80
s,
that's
over
a
hundred
well.
B
The
the
way
that
you,
through
MS
setup
at
the
leisure
center
it's
set,
so
they
can
walk
right
in
and
start
a
program.
They
couldn't
have
it
with
their
maximum
because
it
only
has
one
bathroom,
but
it
has
basically
everything
they
would
need
come
with
the
program
with
15
children.
They
wouldn't
need
to
do
any
improvements.
It
has
a
playground
right
outside
in
the
courtyard.
It's
got
the
one
bathroom.
It
basically
has
everything
they
would
need
to
come
into
the
program
in
order
to
get
their
maximum.
B
They
would
have
to
add
an
additional
restroom
to
the
site
when
we
walk
demuth
community
center
again
the
rooms
a
little
bit
smaller,
there's
not
a
playground,
so
they'd
have
to
add
a
playground
and
the
and
the
way
the
area
is
structured.
They
would
have
that
so
also
had
an
offense
closure
on
the
end
of
the
building,
because
it
would,
it
leads
right
out
to
the
street.
So
you
want
the
kids
going
onto
the
street.
B
They
definitely
didn't
say
no
to
it,
but
it
wasn't
the
top
on
their
list.
And
then
we
didn't
walk
desert
high
on
that
day,
but
they
had
been
there
before
and
the
didn't
seem
to
be
on
their
list.
The
radar
as
consideration
for
head
start,
since
they
were
going
to
be
using
the
modular
that
was
put
in
by
the
county.
Hopefully
with
the
next
few
months.
They'll
have
a
program
starting
there
will
that.
P
P
B
P
C
B
Think
it's
a
whole
separate
list,
because
when,
when
the
county
came
to
us
a
year
ago,
March
about
getting
into
refurbished
that
building,
they
already
had
I
want
to
say
they
had
about
16
or
17
children
already
identified
in
the
area
already.
That
would
qualify.
Okay,
and
it
was
my
understanding
when
we
met
back
in
October
with
the
parents
October
November,
because
they
were
saying:
when
did
we
get?
B
You
started
we're
ready
to
go,
we're
ready
to
go
and
we
probably
had
10
or
15
parents
that
showed
up
that
already
we're
ready
to
start
in
that
facility,
but
we're
waiting
for
it
to
open.
And
you
know
it
had
to
go
through
final
licensing
through
the
county
and
it
also
had
to
go
through
a
fire
inspection
by
the
fire
department.
So.
D
J
A
Agree
with
you,
mr.
Payson,
one
of
the
other
things
that
I
heard
today
was
a
group
of
parents
and
I,
looked
at
the
kids
and
I'm
seeing
children
who
are
there
basically
saying
we
don't
qualify
for
the
Start
program.
We
can't
afford
four
times
more
than
this
to
go
to
Montessori
schools
or
things
of
that
nature.
Now
I'm,
looking
at
the
next
five
years
in
the
city
and
I'm
thinking,
depending
on
what
happens
with
vacation
rentals,
we
may
be,
we
may
have
1,400
homes
hitting
the
market
and
I
would
venture
to
think.
A
If
that
happens,
we
will
be
having
younger
people
with
children
coming
into
our
community,
and
the
last
thing
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
or
need
to
do
is
reduce
the
services
to
the
middle-class
families
and
I
am
really
concerned
about
that
piece
long-term,
as
well
as
what
we
saw
today.
Commissioner
Armstrong,
all.
F
Right
I
have
several
things:
I
just
want
to
respond
to
one
point
the
chair
made
is
that
in
the
master
plan
it
does
talk
about
the
city,
creating
unfair,
competitive
advantages.
So
when
you
look
at
our
programs
and
how
much
we're
charging
what
the
free
market
is
charging,
we
indeed
have
much
more
children
coming
to
community.
There
may
be
ways
that
that
may
be
taken
care
of,
but
I
do
think
realistically,
when
you
have
what
we
saw
today
with
people
bringing
their
or
their
children
in
that.
F
If
this
was
a
city
council,
that's
gonna
be
very
compelling
optics
for
one
to
back
down
from
this
proposal,
but
I
would
like
to
see
somebody
from
headstart
come
and
talk
to
us
about
their
program,
because
I
would
sort
of,
even
though
I
found
what
I
heard
today
informative
I
was
really
troubled
by
a
lot
of
it
as
well.
You
know
my
sisters
and
brothers
were
in
headstart
and
it
did
something
wonderful
to
them.
Somebody
asked
is
one
program
more
important,
the
other.
F
If
you
have
a
hundred
kids
and
we
have
to
be
fair,
while
we
talk
about
those
children,
because
when
we
talk
about
our
tiny
tots
program,
we
we
tend
to
say
well
how
fair
it
is
if
somebody
is
working
in
the
city
but
they're
from
Cathedral
City
and
they're
being
penalized.
Well,
we
have
to
look
at
that
for
the
headstart
parents
as
well,
so
some
of
those
people
may
be
working
in
our
tourism
industry
and
not
making
very
much
money.
So
we
have
to
be
kind
of
be
fair.
F
F
What
one
of
the
speakers
called
into
tight
entitlement
subsidies,
but
we
are
so
make
most
think
we
are
subsidizing
people
right
now
they
could
be
from
outside
the
city.
They
can
be
very
high
income
or
they'd,
be
real
on
Kim.
We
don't
really
know
so
without
actually
hearing
more
about
the
headstart
program
and
being
compassionate
I,
don't
want
to
make
a
recognition
over
would
go
if
we
made
a
recommendation,
but
you
know
we
think
we
have
to
look
beyond
ourselves
at
these
vulnerable
people
in
our
community
and
the
need.
A
P
A
See
I
would
say
this
is
where
Commissioner,
Armstrong
and
I
absolutely
are
not
in
agreement
and
and-
and
my
piece
of
this
is
partially
what
you're
talking
about
these
programs
are
here.
There
was
a
30
year
old,
that's
attended.
The
programs
they've
been
around
for
a
while
I'm,
not
saying
that
Head
Start
headstart
shouldn't
get
in
some
place.
I'm,
just
not
sure
that
this
room
at
this
time
is
the
place.
I'm
really
concerned-
and
you
know
I
may
be
told
it's
none
of
your
business.
But
there
is
a
room.
A
B
It
has
been
because
when,
when
the
program
was
started
in
the
late
90s
again
it
was
the
county
brought
the
modular
in,
and
the
school
district
operated
the
program
and
it
went
on
for
a
number
of
years
and
then
kind
of
the
market.
You
know
budgets
and
stuff
people
were
taking
hits
and
they
didn't
know.
I,
don't
think
was
the
county.
B
It
was
providing
the
funding
anyway,
the
funding
wasn't
no
longer
there,
they
decided
to
stop
the
program,
and
so
the
module
is
sat
there
for
a
number
of
years,
I
mean
for
a
good
ten
years
waiting
for
something
to
come
in
there.
They
did
offer
it
to
the
city,
because
the
county
realized
that
they
moved.
It
was
gonna,
cost
some
more
money
to
move
it
than
what
it
was
worth.
So
they
originally
it
offered
it
to
the
city
city.
Would
you
like
to
have
this?
B
B
G
C
C
B
Know
if
it
has
them
from
the
city
side,
I
know
that
the
school
did
you
guys
met
I
know
their
board.
Is
their
school
board
is
on
board
with
starting
the
program,
and
dr.
Reddy
asked
for
this
to
come
before
the
Commission
and
had
stated
several
months
ago.
It
would
be
come
before
the
Commission
for
decision
was
made
for
direction
on
what
you
would
like
to
do
with
the
space
that
the
school
did
you
could
you
see
requesting
to
lease
I
confirmed.
A
That,
today,
with
dr.
ready
before
our
meeting,
he
was
he
was
not
in
the
building,
but
when
I
spoke
to
him,
he
said
this
is
not
a
done
deal
from
the
city's
perspective,
and
this
should
be
coming
from
the
Commission
either
moving
it
forward
asking
for
more
time
and
more
answers
to
questions
or
pushing
it
and
saying
you
know
we're
not
we're
not
interested
in.
You
know
relinquishing
the
space
at
this
point
in
time,
not
sure
that
that
would
be
the
final.
A
D
My
clarification
with
that
is,
we
need
more
information.
What
what
is
the
profiling
of
these
headstart?
Kids?
What
is
the
profiling
of
our
students
that
are
already
in
this
program?
Is
there
a
way
to
shift
resources
in
all
of
the
locations
that
we
have
as
a
city
so
that
we
can
keep
one
program
and
add
a
second
program,
if
necessary,
for
the
headstart
kids?
D
This
just
doesn't
provide
us
enough
and
without
having
direct,
immediate
feedback
with
somebody,
who's
actually
involved
with
this
and
also
the
goals
of
the
city
and
where
they
want
to
go
with
this.
That's
information
we
need,
and
unless
we
have
those
at
least
two
people
sitting
here,
I,
don't
think
we
can
move
forward,
but
we
need
to
request
that
they
get
their
butts
here
and
put
them
in
the
seats.
Well,.
A
It
may
even
be
more
than
two
I
think
I.
Think
Commissioner
Armstrong
said
it'd
be
nice
to
have
a
representative
from
from
headstart
to
to
talk
to
us
about
that.
So
Vicki,
do
you
feel
with
what
we
have
in
the
minutes
as
you
go
back
and
pull
them
together?
You
have
enough
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
push
staff
forward
with
the
fact
that
we're
not
ready
to
go
there
and
and
why
sure.
B
P
We're
not
discussing
or
trying
to
decide
if
the
headstart
program
is
worthwhile
program,
we're
trying
to
decide
if
we
have
a
piece
of
property
that
we
are
willing
to
rent.
We
didn't
put
it
out
for
rent
it's
occupied,
it's
kind
of
like
your
house
is
occupied,
it's
not
for
sale.
Is
it
and
that's
I
mean
we're
not
here
to
discuss
the
good
and
bad
of
headstart
having
someone
in
from
headstart
we're
here
to
decide
whether
we
want
them
to
take
over
the
tiny
tots
program
facility?
Am
I
correct.
F
Have
to
respond
to
that
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
cast
what
we're
deciding
the
way.
My
fellow
commissioner
cast
it
at
all
and
I
think
that
there
were
some
conversations
between
the
city
and
the
school
district.
That's
started
this
a
HOD.
C
C
B
D
J
A
We
are
under
a
time
constraint
to
4:30
starts
at
five
five
I
know
she
needs
a
little
bit
of
time
with
the
room
ahead
of
time.
So
the
third
item
in
our
our
discussion
today
is
the
discussion
of
recreation
and
facility
rental
fees.
While
we
went
over
a
lot
of
this
for
the
recreation
portion
in
our
in
our
retreat,
this
is
the
time
they
actually
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
and
get
it
done
so
I
sure
paste
you
I,
take
the
hit
from.
D
If
you
know,
when
I
brought
the
points
up
and
I
guess
there
were
two
major
points.
There
was
a
third,
but
we
kind
of
I
decided
to
leave
that
for
now
the
two
major
points
being
the
election
of
a
citywide
membership
that
actually
allows
access
across
all
the
facilities,
instead
of
them
having
their
individual
things
and
then
the
fees
as
they
are
to
help
cover
the
costs
of
them
of
the
programs.
As
I
understood
there
weren't
a
lot
of
questions
about
it
at
the
time.
If
does
anybody
have
questions
now?
B
B
Look
at
this
is
many
times
it
wasn't,
so
we
were
discussing
it
yesterday
and
dr..
He
wasn't.
Okay,
I
think
the
base
of
you.
But
what
do
we
charge
a
family
base
fee?
Oh
good
question,
oh
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
know
it
could
just
I,
don't
know
if
there
was
I
know
we're
looking
at
if
they
were
resident
they
would
be
hundred.
So
what
would
the
question
was?
What
would
be
the
base
rate?
We
would
charge
a
non-resident
family
there.
C
C
D
A
B
B
Tried
to
explain
to
in
the
meeting
that
we
were,
you
had
used
the
medical
fields
documentation.
So
the
question
was:
what
what
really
are
we
gonna
be
asking
parents
for
who
want
to
come
in
participate
in
programs
to
provide
us
that
they
could
be
in
this
sliding
scale,
whether
they're
sixty
percent
forty
percent
subsidized,
twenty
five
percent,
whatever
it
is?
How
do
we
determine
at
what
level
they
fall
and
what
documentation
we're
going
to
require?
Typically.
D
The
families
that
are
qualifying
for
these
different
things
are
used
to
providing
some
source
of
documentation
for
income,
whether
that
is
a
tax
return
or
a
current
pay
stub
that
allows
someone
to
verify
what
their
current
income
is.
I
set
a
lot
of
people
who
would
be
applying
for
these
discounts
or
these
subsidies
they're
used
to
doing
this.
They
do
it
for
school
lunches.
They
do
it
for
medical
programs.
They
do
it
for
everything.
D
It's
not
that
difficult
to
add
doing
it
for
their
membership,
considering
the
discount
levels
that
they
would
be
getting
for
it
and
it
they
only
have
to
do
it
the
once
when
they
sign
up
for
their
citywide
membership
program.
That
log
for
that
program
allows
the
fee
to
be
set
for
every
program
that
they
would
want
to
attend.
So
it's
again,
it's
only
logged
when
they
do
their
citywide
membership,
and
so
it's
one
time
and.
D
And
you
know:
if
situations
change,
an
exception
can
be
made.
You
know
you
can
always
say
you
know
it's
six
months
in
they
lost
their
source
of
income.
They
still
need
their
kid
to
be
able
to
go
to
these
programs.
You
know
we
don't
have
to
be
hard
and
strict
about
it
when
you're
offering
discounts
based
off
of
income.
If
the
income
changes,
if
they're
willing
to
come
in
and
say,
hey,
look,
my
income
changed.
Take
it.
D
Everything
above
that
is
a
multiplier
applied
to
it,
whether
it's
one
and
a
half
percent
or
sorry
150%,
of
the
federal
poverty
up
to
200%
of
the
poverty
level.
So
this
actually
allows
for
a
better
scale
than
like
the
headstart
program
which
just
deals
with
federal
poverty
level.
This
deals
with
twice
the
federal
poverty
level,
downward
and
I
had
presented
it
at
one
time,
and
it
is
lovely
filed
in
here
somewhere,
but
I
will
find
it
for
you.
A
B
And
one
of
the
questions
that
was
asked
of
me
yesterday
in
the
meeting
and
I'll
have
to
do
a
little
digging,
cuz
I
know.
I
did
provide
some
of
that
when
we
started
this
process
it
was
how
much,
how
much
are
we
bringing
in
right
now
on
membership
fees,
and
if
we
do
this
increase,
how
much?
How
much
more
is
it
going
to
be?
And
you
know
it's
hard
to
project
what
that
number
will
be?
But
we
could
you
know,
look
at
you
know
what
are
we
currently
doing
the
memberships
at
Duluth,
Community
Center?
B
Why
are
we
doing
at
the
leisure
center?
Why
we
do
it
doesn't
highlight
and
you
can
come
up
with
a
calculation
and
is
you
know
it
could
be
a
major
increase
or
it
could
be
very
minimal
because
there
may
be
people
that
says.
I
can't
afford
this
so
I'm
not
gonna
come
to
your
facility,
because
I
can't
afford
the
paid,
even
though
they
might
fall
in
this
sliding
scale.
You're
gonna
get
into
an
area
where
now
they're
gonna
have
to
start
paying
more
for
classes
as
well.
B
D
This
was
kind
of
a
first-pitch
effort
to
try
and
equalize
things
and
create
a
baseline,
because
the
city
has
had
programs
that
have
deferred
so
much
across
different
areas.
This
creates
an
equality
across
the
city
to
start
with,
and
then,
if
we
have
to
adjust,
we
will
in
a
year
or
two
to
make
sure
that
we're
trying
to
serve
as
many
of
our
I
want
to
say,
customers
and
to
use
to
working
in
business
more
of
our
residents
and
make
sure
that
it's
working
for
them.
You
know
we
may
have
dropouts
from
the
program.
D
That's
statistical
data
that
we
need
to
keep
over
the
next
year
see
how
this
actually
applies,
see
how
many
people
qualify
in
those
different
areas
to
figure
out
where
we
need
to
adjust
it.
The
problem
has
been
that
a
lot
of
this
data
has
never
been
collected
before
I
mean
we
had
to
manually
I,
say
we,
your
staff
had
to
manually
go
through
and
look
through
application
forms
to
find
data
of
whether
they
were
a
resident
or
non-resident.
D
This
gives
us
that
data
to
start
so
that,
if
any
major
changes
have
to
happen
later,
we
have
the
information
to
back
it
up.
These
are
minor
to
start
with
now
to
try
and
get
over
the
hump,
but
it
creates
a
system
in
place
where
we
have
the
data
later,
to
be
able
to
more
effectively
state
whether
we
can
use
a
program
or
not.
E
D
Was
when
we
originally
looked
at
it,
the
since
the
program
specifically
declines
in
cost
for
residents?
What
we
looked
at
was
currently
in
the
program
how
many
residents
versus
non-residents
the
issue
came
up,
that
more
non-residents
used.
These
programs
than
residents
do
in
most
of
the
programs,
and
so
the
capital
from
them
was
actually
greater
than
what
they
were
currently
making.
E
D
E
B
Normally
we
have
a
date
when
fees
need
to
be
paid
by
so
right
now,
I'll
use
our
fko
program,
so
if
you're
paying
for
the
part
in
by
the
month,
if
you're
paid
by
the
20th
of
the
preceding
month,
so
if
you're
paying
for
April
you
pay
by
March
20th
today,
you're
gonna
get
a
$5
discount.
If
you
wait
till
tomorrow
to
pay
you're
gonna
pay
the
extra
five
dollars
you
know
like
a
summer
camp
during
the
summer
camp
we
used
to
give
them
a
$25
discount.
B
B
You've
got
50
parents
you're,
trying
to
track
down
that
need
to
either
come
their
kid
or
come
and
pay
you
or
call
and
give
your
credit
card
over
the
phone,
and
some
parents
are
busy
and
you
can't
get
a
hold
of
it's
noon
and
the
kids
still
waiting
in
the
lobby
waiting
to
for
something
to
happen,
because
the
parent
is
not
returning
the
phone
calls.
So
we
implemented
that.
B
So
that
would
encourage
the
parents
to
pay
on
time
pay
ahead
of
time
and
it
works
because
three
o'clock
between
three
to
five
o'clock
in
our
office
on
a
Thursday.
It
is
like
non-stop
with
parents
coming
in
paying
because
they
want
to
get
that
$25
discount
with
this.
If
they
wait
till
Monday
to
come
in
they're
gonna
pay
the
extra
twenty
five
dollars
because
they
waited
to
come
in
and
and
make
their
payment.
Basically.
D
D
One
of
the
things-
and
this
is
in
response
to
Ellen's
first
part
of
her
response-
was
we
had
discussed
what
would
actually
qualify
a
person
as
a
resident
in
the
city,
not
just
having
a
home
here,
but
if
they
were
a
full-time,
employee
here
or
owned
a
business
here,
then
that
would
be
something
that
would
actually
say
that
they're
a
resident
they
because
they
do
spend
their
time
here.
They
spend
their
lunch
hour
here
and
they
come
here
because
they're
dropping
off
their
kid
to
the
closest
location
to
where
they
work.
A
E
C
D
C
C
J
D
Another
thing
that
was
from
the
meeting
just
so
the
you're
clear,
the
early
childhood
literacy
program
at
the
Highland
Unity
Center
is
going
to
be
matched
because
it's
a
similar
program
to
tiny
tots
to
the
tiny
tots
rate,
because
that
program
is
underutilized
at
the
moment
which
drives
cost
per
student.
Very
high.
E
I'd
actually
like
to
put
forth
a
motion
that
we
adopt
the
committee's
suggestions.
The
one
caveat
that
I
do
have
is
I'd
really
like
just
to
explore
what
it
will
take
for
the
department
to
be
able
to
manage
the
process
and
to
make
sure
that
that
process
is
in
place
so
that
it
actually
can
start
at
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal
year.
B
A
B
D
B
Think,
looking
at
what
I've
done
again,
based
on
what
I
was
directed,
that's
basically
we're
gonna
present
to
the
subcommittee
or
ad-hoc
committee,
whatever
their
title
is
for
them
to
review
and
think
feedback
from
them.
Is
this
really
what
they're
looking
for
is.
This
is
the
direction
they
want
to
go
and
then
we'll
massage
and
how
they
need
it.
We
would
like
to
see
it
and
then
coming
back
for
for
the
commission
with
you
know,
maybe
a
recommendation
for
increases.
B
A
P
I'm,
going
back
to
May
17th
meeting
of
2016
I
discussed
this
a
little
bit
with
Vicki
to
ask
what
is
the
appropriate
procedure
that
we
follow?
We
recommended
that
signs
be
placed
at
Swim,
Center,
signage
and
skate
park
a
year
a
year
ago,
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
it
was
brought
up
cause
I
believe
directed
this
thing,
and
nothing
has
been
done
at
that
point
and
when
Vicki
and
I
talked
was
it
to
go
to
City
Council's.
Can
anyone
recall
where
that
I
mean
we
went
through
it?
B
Of
the
issue
was
I
was
I
was
dealing
with
the
school
district.
With
the
new
welding
teacher,
we
could
get
some
signs
made,
him
I
went
back
and
forth
back
and
forth.
We
never
could
seem
to
get
together
to
come
to
an
understanding
of
what
it
would
cost.
What
kind
of
material
would
be
in
the
meantime,
I
did
get
with
the
mark
Lowry,
who
is
the
mo
for
the
skatepark?
They
did
do
some
designs.
B
The
process
goes,
is
gonna,
be
after
talking,
the
planning
planning
has
to
review
the
signage,
to
determine
and
and
Flynn
said
that
he
could.
He
thought
he
could
do
it
on
his
own
without
going
before
the
full
Planning
Commission
to
make
sure
it
was
appropriate
signage
I'm,
just
waiting
for
mark
to
get
me
the
actual
size
and
stuff
of
the
sign,
so
I
can
get
it
to
planning
and
move
that
forward.
So
we
get
the
signing
to
put
up
no.
B
B
C
C
A
E
I
heard
that
second,
it
good
job.
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
actually
for
Saturday.
It
takes
a
lot
on
a
day
off
and
with
busy
schedules
to
show
up
and
be
present
and
participate.
So
I
thought
our
retreat
went
pretty
well,
we
got
a
lot
done,
came
out
with
a
lot
of
ideas,
an
action
item,
so
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
also
just
want
to
reflect
and
thank
all
of
the
families,
all
the
parents
who
came
out
in
the
whole
process,
the
discussions
and
the
thoughts
around
programming
and
the
value
of
programming.
E
There
was
this
I
guess
what
I
would
call
middleware
and
our
public
comments.
They
really
just
called
middle-class.
You
know
there
was
this
whole
section
for
me
that
was
left
out
of
the
conversation
and
it
really
hit
home
and
I
appreciated
them
coming
out
and
getting
in
front
of
us
and
for
me
it
just
really
shifted
my
perspective,
so
I
want
to
give
them
a
shout
out.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
Commissioner
Davis
from
my
perspective.
I
also
wanted
to
thank
all
of
you,
your
significant
others
and
Families
for
allowing
you
to
spend
Saturday
working
on
the
retreat.
I
know,
Trent
I
think
you
mentioned
that
somebody
said
oh
you're
going
someplace
fabulous
and
you
know
golfing.
It
was
better
than
that.
It
was
a
lot
better
than
golfing
all
day.
It
was
a
great
facility.
Ellen
I
appreciated
your
the
the
way
you
moved
us
through
the
material
and
we're
flexible
and
running,
but
also
everybody
stepped
forward
and
I
sense.
A
B
A
date
this
Thursday,
which
is
March
22nd,
will
be
celebrating
the
village
Festa
its
26th
birthday,
I,
think
and
they'll
be
having
cake
and
it
goes
very
quickly
or
cupcakes.
It
goes
very
quickly,
starting
right
at
6
o'clock
right
at
the
corner
of
taco,
it's
in
Palm
Canyon.
So
if
you're
available
we'd
like
to
have
a
cupcake
or
we'd
like
to
help
the
staff
hand
them
out
they'd
be
more
appreciative.
Also,
this
is
coming
Saturday.
B
March
24th
is
the
one
PS
neighborhood
picnic
at
Watari,
Park
from
11:00
to
2:00
and
I
will
have
my
staff
there
doing
their
normal
face.
Painting
and
arts
and
crafts
and
chair
Young
has
persuaded
a
few
people
to
come
out.
Our
ballroom
people
will
be
there,
I
believe
Mariana
from
yoga.
She
has
a
yak,
he
says
classed
until
9:00,
so
she'll
be
available
to
be
there
by
11:00
and
I,
no
fear
the
people
you've
talked
to
and
so
I
know
the
ballroom
people
were
in
again
today.
B
Do
you
have
the
flyer
so
I
hope
you
put
them
out
the
flyer
and
the
information
on
it.
So
I
know
they
plan
on
being
there.
So
they're.
Looking
forward
to
being
there
this
Saturday,
so
if
you're
out
about
and
have
nothing
else
to
do
it's
always
a
good
time
and
a
lot
of
lot
of
different
activities
and
booths
going
on
out
there.