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Description
Palm Springs International Airport Commission Strategic Planning Session, held September 27th, 2022
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The
commission
has
relative
to
some
of
the
proposed
plans
in
the
long-term
leadership
plan,
we're
gonna
on
to
the
other
pieces
to
make
sure
that
all
of
us
leave
here
understanding
the
long-term
planning
process.
What
happens
after
this
meeting
with
the
Consultants
who
are
bidding
to
participate
in
helping
to
develop
the
long-term
plan
for
the
commission,
for
the
airport
and
for
the
city?
So,
what's
going
to
happen,
those
steps
and
What's
the
timing
of
all
those
steps,
so
we're
clear
about
what
our
next
steps
after
we
provide
our
input
today.
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The
Palm
Springs
Airport,
commission,
you
know
we
have
two
right
now.
What
will
be
our
next
set
of
priorities
moving
forward
and
we'll
also
have
time
in
the
middle
of
the
meeting
and
Teresa
has
joined
us
to
talk
about
the
role
of
the
Commissioners
moving
forward.
So
that's
our
our
goal
for
this
afternoon.
Our
goals
for
this
afternoon
before
we
move
on,
is
there
anything
else
anybody
wants
to
suggest
any
other
priorities.
People
want
to
consider
before
we
move
on
okay,
so
the
agenda
we're
going
to
look
at
a
forecast
of
the
future
to.
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Teresa
is
here
to
talk
about
the
role
of
the
airport
commission
kind
of
picking
up
from
the
discussion
that
happened
in
our
meeting
last
week,
providing
a
summary
of
that
provide
context
for
the
other
exercises
we're
going
to
have,
and
then
we
decided
to
organize
this
meeting
as
I
mentioned
in
three
different
buckets
in
terms
of
the
content.
Looking
at
the
suggested
invested
options
for
the
next
five
years,
22
to
27.
what
would
happen
between
28
and
32
and
then
more
the
long
term
33
through
42..
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We
thought
by
organizing
the
discussion
around
what
are
the
proposed
Investments.
They
give
us
a
good
idea,
a
good
opportunity
to
level
set
across
the
commission,
so
we
have
a
shared
understanding
of
what's
being
discussed
and
if
you've
looked
at
your
pre-work,
you
know
they've
been
bucketed
in
certain
areas
and
we're
going
to
try
as
we
move
through
each
of
these
major
chunks
to
understand.
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What's
being
proposed,
then,
after
each
one
of
these
presentations
will
stop
we'll
ask
you
to
go
back
to
your
spreadsheet
and
tell
us
what
you
think
your
priorities
would
be
based
on
what
you've
learned
about
that
particular
segment
of
this
particular
proposed
set
of
Investments
and
you'll
hand
that
in
and
then
there'll
be
a
separate
person.
Who'll
be
tabulating
that
so
by
the
end
of
the
meeting,
we'll
have
a
sense
of
where
the
commission
is
is
in
terms
of
priorities.
H
I
suspect
that
many
of
the
things
we
see
on
these
sheets-
all
of
them
are
going
to
be
important.
The
question
is:
do
we
have
a
point
of
view
about
what's
most
important
and
we're
just
getting
a
temperature
check
which
we
think
could
help
to
lead
the
Consultants
who
will
drive
the
long-term
tanning
process,
at
least
getting
a
sense
of
what's
important
to
the
commission?
H
We'll
have
some
time
for
final
thoughts
in
the
summary
and
then
next
steps
back
to
Harry.
Now
we
asked
for,
and
we've
scheduled
a
full
day
to
do
this
Ergo
we're
starting
midday,
but
we're
going
prepared
to
go
to
eight
o'clock
tonight.
My
sense
is,
it
is,
is
if
we
develop
a
rhythm
in
this
meeting
and
people
understand
certain
issues.
Some
of
the
second,
the
third
buckets-
may
not
go
as
long
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
move
the
meeting
forward,
we're
not
locked
into
this.
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So
as
Vice
chair
Corcoran
mentioned,
we
we're
gonna
kind
of
level
set
here
with
a
common
understanding
of
where
the
airport
has
been
where
it
was
and
where
we
intend
to
go.
At
least
you
know
from
the
perspective
of
the
executive
team
and
then
we'll
roll
in
some
discussions
about
what
the
Commissioners
anticipate
and
expect
from
the
airport.
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Orange
County
San,
Diego
and
San
Bernardino.
That's
what
we
see
internally
as
our
competition
and
historically
we've
had
no
strategic
plan.
When
I
came
into
this
role,
there
was
nothing,
no
guiding
document
that
forecasted
out
really
the
next
20
years
for
this
airport,
so
we're
actually
starting
from
base
in
the
planning
part
of
this.
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Is
Palm
Springs
is
a
CFR
14
part
139
certificate
in
airport?
What
that
means
is
we
are
able
to
accommodate
scheduled
commercial
traffic,
and
because
of
that,
we
are
subject
to
a
multitude
of
restrictions
and
Provisions
specific
to
commercial
airports
where
small,
hub
airport
trending
in
the
medium
Hub
Direction
right
now
per
calendar
year.
We
do
2.1.
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A
landlord-tenant
relationship
with
a
lot
of
the
people
that
operate
at
the
airport
of
the
13
Airlines
three
rental
car
companies,
one
master
consession,
there
two
fixed
base
operators,
we
have
a
partnership
with
Customs
and
Border
Patrol
and
that's
specific
to
general
aviation
and
then
the
air
museum,
and
currently
we
have
91
approved
ftes
for
the
organization
20
of
those
or
roughly
20
of
those
are
allocated
to
police
and
fire.
The
rest
report
directly
to
me.
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So
how
are
we
regulated?
I
mentioned
that
we're
a
part
139
airport
and
as
such,
we
have
a
lot
of
restrictions
called
sponsor
assurances
that
govern
every
aspect
of
the
airport.
So
there's
39
of
them,
and
they
include
things
from
how
to
operate
the
airport
safely
to
real
property
rights
and
real
property
usage
to
land
use
exclusive
rights,
Revenue
diversion
Etc.
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That
that
we,
that
we
have
at
the
airport
and
then
airports
also
have
their
own
formal
legal
process,
so
there's
the
part
13
and
part
16
process
which
goes
through
the
FAA
whereby
any
tenant
or
any
operator
who
feels
that
they've
been
aggrieved
can
use
that
process
as
complaint
and
there
there
are
frankly,
at
the
end
of
that
process.
There
is
the
potential
for
fines
or
for
restrictions
to
the
airport
or
the
the
FAA
can
pull
our
operating
certificate
in
certain
cases.
A
Foreign
in
terms
of
how
we're
funded
this
is,
generally
speaking,
inclusive
of
all
of
our
Revenue
sources,
so
land
and
building
leases
fees
on
aircraft
operations,
which
include
gate
parking,
Landing
fees,
fuel,
Flowage
fees,
per
passenger
fees,
I
mentioned
fees
to
passengers
and
via
the
form
of
Passenger
facility
charges
which
have
to
be
approved
through
the
FAA
and
customer
facility
charges,
public
parking
and
other
non-aeronautical
revenues,
concessions
and
retail
sales.
And
then,
of
course,
we
get
a
lot
of
grant
funding
from
the
federal
government.
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We
do
okay,
in
that
the
bonds
have
funded
a
lot
of
the
airport
operations
and
there
are
certain
restrictions
and
certain
covenants
that
are
required
for
the
airport
to
follow
in
those
bonding
documents
as
well.
That's
accurate,
okay
and
the
bottom
line
is
that
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
is
ultimately
the
responsible
party
for
the
bonds
and
the
taxpayers
of
Palm
Springs.
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A
So
the
way
the
residual
agreement
works
for
us
is
the
signatory
airlines.
So
those
airlines
that
have
made
long-term
commitments
to
the
airport
agree
to
pay
essentially
to
operate
through
the
life
of
the
lease,
whether
they
operate
or
not.
They
completely
fund
the
cost
of
operating
the
airport,
so
we
meet
with
Airlines
annually.
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We
determine
jointly
what
the
budget
is,
they
approve
the
budget
and
they
approve
they
ultimately
agree
to
fund
the
entire
operation
of
the
airport.
As
a
result,
they
have
significant
control
and
influence
over
our
Capital
programs.
All
non-aeronautical
revenues
are
then
remitted
to
the
Airlines
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
so
any
money
that
we
make
on
public
parking
concessions.
All
of
that
is
remitted
back
to
the
Airlines
at
the
end
of
the
year.
A
A
A
In
terms
of
our
constraints,
we
obviously
have
an
undersized
facility,
so
the
facility
is
not
grown
with
the
passenger
traffic.
We
have,
in
our
opinion,
outdated
and
highly
unfavorable
revenue
and
use
agreements.
Some
of
those
agreements
have
extended
for
up
to
40
or
50
years
and
they're
coming
due
right
now,
so
as
they
terminate
we'll
start
to
revisit
them
and
look.
B
At
those
terms,
up
until
recently,
and
even
now,
we've
had
a
skeleton
organization.
So
up
until
this
past
fiscal
year
we
had
48
ftes
assigned
to
the
airport
that
had
been
the
same
since
I,
believe
2010
or
so.
Staff
development
and
morale
has
been
an
issue
for
us.
So
historically,
our
staff
has
not
been
allowed
to
train
and
develop
their
skills.
A
B
Maintenance
and
an
infrastructure
deficit
is
an
issue
for
the
airport
and
that's
an
issue
for
most
airports
in
the
nation
right
now,
so
we're
not
alone
in
that
one
lack
of
close
Partnerships
with
key
interested
parties.
We
really
haven't
had
that
in
the
past
and
then
inefficient
processes
for
an
Enterprise
fund,
the
internal
working
installing
that's
fine,
too
sorry,
someone
talking
if
someone's
on
zoom
and
they're
not
muted,
can
we
make
sure
they're
muted.
Please.
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B
Have
an
assistant
airport
director
we're
interviewing
for
that
position
now
I
have
five
managers
and
or
directors
reporting
to
me
in
operation
security,
maintenance,
business
administration
and
then
and
marketing
and
Communications,
and
each
of
those
respective
managers
and
directors
has
their
own
line
of
business
that
they
they
oversee.
Aside.
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From
that
we
have
other
City
departments
that
either
participate
or
influence
how
we
operate,
and
that
includes
our
I.T
Department
engineering
facilities,
maintenance,
police
and
fire
department.
We
do
pay
into
their
funds
in
return.
They
do
provide
either
Personnel
or
resources
for
us
to
use
within
the
day-to-day
operation.
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Now
we
have
a
number
of
open
positions,
so
the
maintenance
superintendent
position
is
also
open.
We
have
a
number
of
operations
and
maintenance
positions
at
the
front
line
level
that
are
open
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
the
positions
that
we
added
to
our
organization
over
this
last
budget
cycle
we've
not
filled
those.
Yet
we
got
an
updated
chart
that
shows
what's
approved
and
then
what's
filled
sure
we
can
provide
that.
Thank
you.
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48
52.,
if
you
look
at
the
number
today,
we're
up
to
69
I,
believe
69
full-time
hours
and
then
in
this
current
Ops
budget,
you're
going
to
hire
another
12..
No,
that
that's
inclusive,
of
the
12th
that
way.
Okay.
So
just
so
people
reporting
to
work
getting
a
paycheck
today
that
number
and
then
what's
the
number
to
be
hired
kind
of,
follow
on
to
what
David
asks
and
that
we
can
get
to
you,
because
I
don't
have
that
right
in
front
okay,
fair
enough!
H
Oh
I'm,
sorry
could
I
ask
one
more.
Do
you
feel
as
the
executive
director-
and
this
is
commissioner
John
Payne?
Are
you
competitive
from
a
salary
basis
with
the
industry
in
Palm
Springs?
Are
you
able
to
when
you
find
the
right
person?
Can
you
compete
with
anybody
else?
Hiring
I
would
say
that
depends
on
the
position.
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D
That's
pretty
much
broken
food
and
beverage.
We
provision
the
concessions,
program,
marketing
and
development,
so
part
of
our
strategy
is
ensuring
that
the
region
understands
that
they
have
an
airport
that
does
have
a
role
in
the
system
and
that
we
draw
people
into
to
that
airport
and
then
legislative
affairs.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
with
not
only
our
local
elected.
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B
B
D
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A
A
D
H
D
D
H
And
I'll
try
and
articulate
those
and
articulate
our
short-term
vision
for
those.
While
we
work
on
planning
the
long-term
strategy
for
those
if
you'll
notice,
there's
an
image
depicted
on
the
screen,
and
it
has
some
areas
that
are
blocked
out
and
colored
out,
the
purple
areas
are
what
we
envision
as
parking.
We
understand
that
we're
challenged
on
the
parking
situation,
particularly
during
the
month
of
or
between
the
months
of
November
and
May.
H
So
the
idea
is
that
sometime
over
the
next
12
to
15
months,
we'll
be
converting
are
what
we
considered
historically
as
our
overflow
lot
to
a
permanent
economy
lot.
That
will
require
some
design
and
construction,
but
the
idea
is
to
get
that
ball
rolling.
Now,
there's
another
purple,
shaded
area,
that's
just
to
the
west.
Across
from
lclo
from
the
airport,
we
intend
to
turn
that
into
an
employee
parking
lot.
So
right
now
all
of
the
employees
for
the
airport,
including
Airline
and
Concession
staff
park
on
the
airport
campus
and
that
displaces
public
parking.
H
We
want
to
mitigate
against
that
if
you'll
notice
there's
an
orange
shaded
area
to
the
north.
The
idea
is
that
over
the
next
12
to
15
months,
the
airport
will
convert
lot
a
that's
lot,
a
just
across
from
baggage
claim
to
a
commercial
lot
for
taxis
and
TNC
operators
and
we'll
consolidate
those
operations
into
one
lot,
both
from
the
perspective
of
being
able
to
manage
those
operations
as
well
as
for.
H
And
then,
if
you'll
notice,
there's
a
red
and
blue
line
depicted
running
in
front
of
the
main
terminal,
the
red
line
would
be
converted
to
a
departures
Lane
for
all
vehicles.
The
Blue
Line
would
be
converted
into
a
arrivals
Lane,
and
so
that's,
where
we'd
anticipate
that
most
Vehicles
would
operate.
That
would
spread
some
of
the
the
load
in
terms
of
the
the
congestion
that
we
see
on
the
roadways
in
front
of
the
terminal.
C
And
then
also
short
term,
but
not
depicted
on
this
is
right.
Now
the
airport
is
working
on
converting
our
Airline
gates
to
common
use,
which
would
allow
us
to
park
any
Airline
or
any
aircraft
at
almost
any
gate.
On
the
airport,
quick
question:
yes,
could
you
give
us
the
time
frames
is
one
year
tactical
plan.
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H
H
H
In
terms
of
our
two-year
tactical
plan,
so
obviously
we've
got
some
challenges
with
our
baggage
claim,
as
well
as
our
outbound
baggage
handling
system
and
we've
been
working
with
the
FAA
and
with
TSA
and
with
the
airlines
on
not
only
identifying
what
those
challenges
are
and
how
impactful
they
are,
but
also
on
solutions
for
those
plans.
So
we've
been
in
discussions
with
fa
with
TSA
on
potential
funding.
We've
been
working
through
our
budget
to
see
where
we
can
find
efficiencies
to
to
fund
those.
A
We
can
park
aircraft
overnight
so
that
they
would
have
the
ability
to
to
utilize
those
aircraft
in
the
morning
for
their
morning
departures
and
then,
if
you
look
to
the
south
of
the
airport,
there's
a
blue
shaded
box
and
a
purple
shaded
box,
the
blue
shaded
box.
Right
now,
as
I
see
it
as
our
team
sees,
it
is
we're
most
likely.
A
new
Consolidated
rental
car
facility
would
go.
The
purple
shaded
box
is
where
we
had
preferred
to
go
before
we
found
out
that
the
land
was
purchased.
A
H
So
as
we
get
to
three
years,
that's
where
tactical
no
longer
works
for
us
and
it
starts
to
become
strategic.
And
so,
if
you
notice
on
this
image,
there
are
four
purple
boxes.
Those
boxes
are
indicative
of
areas
where
we
could
potentially
build
or
construct
things
that
we
feel
like
we
need
on
the
airport.
H
H
H
Well,
may
I
ask
a
question:
sure
Gerald
Adams,
the
original
design
of
the
airport,
each
wing
of
the
airport,
was
originally
meant
to
expand
outward
and
that
space
was
allotted
from
the
design
of
the
runway
to
the
design
of
the
streets.
Is
there
any
thoughts
to
trying
to
keep
that
original
design?
There
is
some
thought
to
keeping
the
original
design
and,
to
the
extent
that
we
possibly
can
we
want
to
preserve
the
original
design.
J
H
F
H
Beyond
the
immediate
perimeter
of
the
airport,
I
kind
of
had
always
assumed
that
the
airport
owns
all
that
land.
So
that's
news
and
that's
okay,
but
is
there
other
land
that
we
should
be
aware
of?
That's
in
our
immediate
of
area
that
that
could
be
sold
or
whatever
I
believe
so
I
believe
Victoria
is
probably
the
best
person
to
answer
that
question.
H
The
red
mic-
hello,
I'm,
Victoria,
Carpenter
airport
Administration
manager,
so
there
is
property
to
the
north
east
of
the
Airfield
that
belongs
to
the
Bureau
of
Indian
Affairs,
slash
the
tribe.
So
there's
a
very
large
parcel.
That's
up
there
if
you're,
driving
along
vistachino
and
you're
heading
west
on
vistachino
you'll
see
it
on
the
left
hand,
side
before
you
hit
feral.
H
H
There
has
been
discussions,
but
nothing
that
is
we.
We
haven't
planned
it
through
to
do
that.
So
it's
definitely
just
a
topic
of
discussion,
but
nothing
straightforward,
yeah,
I
think
to
better
answer
your
question,
commissioner.
At
this
time
we
believe
that
we
can
do
everything
that
we
need
to
do
on
the
land
that
we
have
available
to
us.
Now.
H
G
G
G
G
So
this
is
organization
chart
reflect
depending
Less
on
City
staff
in
terms
of
certain
services
or
activities.
It
does
so.
You
know
our
city
city
staff
has
been
great
in
supporting
us,
but
they
obviously
have
their
own
mission
right.
You
know,
you
know,
for
example,
our
engineering
team
is
just
bogged
down
by
projects
that
in
some
cases,
extend
out
over
a
decade,
and
so
when
we
add
a
project,
it's
like
that
airport
again
and
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
bring
that
in-house.
J
Great
question
Teresa
Gallivan,
interim
city
manager
and
absolutely
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
Staffing
needed
to
run
a
competitive,
International
renowned
airport,
we're
all
on
the
city
team,
whether
it's
staff
that
reports
directly
to
Harry
or
is
from
another
department.
So,
yes,
I,
would
I
think
there's
support
for
having
people
in
the
right
place
to
run
all
of
our
city
operations
and
the
discussions
we're
hearing
today
we're
having
those
in
other
departments
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think.
C
The
long-term
planning
process
that
the
staff
or
the
airport
is
fully
staffed
so
that
they
are
also
almost
self-contained
I,
mean
I.
Think
it's
one
of
the
goals
we'll
ask
for
objectives
in
the
long-term
plan,
but
I
think
this
gives
us
a
snapshot
of
what
it
could
look
like.
But
that's
where
we
want
to
go
if
I
might
just
add
I
think.
Sometimes
there
is
efficiency.
C
I
Not
for
now
and
I
think
I'll
turn
it
over
to
commissioner
Hendrick.
Okay.
It
says
that
Ken
has
agreed
to
has
put
together
some
research
to
share
with
us
and
has
agreed
to
lead
this
section
to
kind
of
give
us
a
sense
of
the
forecast
of
the
future.
Do
you
have
something
before
we
go?
Yeah
I
did
a
couple
of
things
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
get
through.
If
I
could
one
of
them?
Is
you
rattled
off
all
the
airports
that
compete
or
are
complementary
to
Palm
Springs?
I
B
B
B
Can
you
explain
the
difference
between
the
current
residual
model
for
the
commission
and
the
public
and
a
compensatory
model,
and
which
do
you
feel
we
should
pursue
from
this
point
going
forward?
So
I've
already
outlined
the
residual
model
whereby
the
airlines
cover
the
cost
of
operating
the
airport
and.
I
B
C
The
airport
and
or
city
would
set
the
rates
and
charges
for
the
airlines.
We
would
retain
all
the
revenues
there
would
be
no
profit
sharing
involved
with
that.
There
is
a
hybrid
or
an
in-between
which
is
hybrid,
compensatory
or
hybrid
residual,
whereby
the
airlines
would,
in
theory,
pay
for
the
usage
of
the
Airfield.
L
Those
areas,
and
then
the
airport,
would
assume
the
risk
of
running
the
terminal
and
parking
areas
and
we
would
enter
into
a
profit
sharing
structure.
So
those
are,
generally
speaking,
the
three
different
types
of
agreements
that
airports
utilize.
Which
way
do
you
want
to
go
right
now,
we're
leaning
toward
a
hybrid
agreement
with
Airlines,
and
it's
true
that
the
current
10
million.
C
C
B
Is
the
fastest
growing,
particularly
Riverside
County
and
San
Bernardino
County
Riverside's
growth
is
in
Leisure
Services
Professional,
Services,
Education,
Health,
Care
and
retro
retail
trade.
San
Bernardino
is
also
developing
a
large
Leisure
Services
industry,
particularly
with
Joshua
Tree,
in
that
particular
area,
Transportation,
warehousing
manufacturing,
health
care
and
education.
So
in
growth
of
population
currently.
A
A
D
C
Just
completed
a
study
that
53
000
residents
in
the
Coachella
Valley
are
in
the
hotel,
Leisure
industry
and
the
airport
supports
that
by
bringing
guests
in
and
out
29
Palms
Marine
Base.
Our
customer
base
is
residents
from
Bannon
to
the
salt
and
the
Sea,
nor
to
29
palms
and
Joshua
Tree.
We
have
a
health
care
for
growing
health
care
and
education
sector,
particularly
with
the
gross
account
of
the
UC
campuses
in
Palm
Desert,
a
growing
remote
Workforce
in
my
neighborhood.
C
Several
homes
have
been
sold
to
LA
and
San
Francisco
people
who
have
moved
here
with
their
families
and
are
now
working
from
home,
but
have
to
travel
back
to
home
base
fairly
frequently
government
and
other
businesses
manufacturing
and
warehouses
and
I'm
sure
over
the
next
20
years.
There's
going
to
be
new
types
of
Industries
that
will
look
at
this
area,
particularly
as
it
pertains
to
solar,
Alternative
Energy.
We
already
know
about
the
lithium
plants.
The
GM
is
planting
in
the
Salton
Sea
that
is
going
to
generate
more
traffic
for
PSP
question.
C
Yes,
Las
Vegas
utilized
hotel
room,
build
to
good
effect
when
it
came
to
what
they
needed
to
do
with
the
airport
was
an
indicator
off
top.
Do
you
have
a
sense
of
where
hotel
rooms
are
flat
growing
ten
percent
five
percent,
and
is
that
a
good
metric
in
your
opinion,
in
regards
to
tracking
what
Palm
Springs
Airport
should
be
doing?
Currently
in
the
Coachella
Valley,
we
have
14
600
total
drums
and
we
also
equally
have
the
same
number
of
rooms
in
the
vacation
rental.
C
C
D
C
G
C
C
C
Of
talk
about
recessions
coming
and
what
kind
of
thoughts
do
you
have
in
terms
of
the
how
that
would
affect
the
airport
if
a
full
recession
came
in
the
United
States
over
the
next
year?
Well,
the
airport's
already
been
through
a
couple
of
recessions.
They
went
through
the
99,
they
went
through
the
2008.
They
went
through
the
most
recent
one.
J
The
the
covet
issue,
not
something
that
was
never
anticipated
but
I-
think
that
it's
just
like
investing
in
the
stock
markets.
You
don't
invest.
You
know,
day
to
day
you
invest
for
10
years.
You
invest
for
15
years
and
over
that
period
you
are
assuming
that
you're
going
to
get
a
certain
amount
of
growth
here,
we're
using
2.1
2.8
percent,
which
is
a
pretty
conservative
number.
J
B
D
Of
the
number,
so
so
you
support
it.
Yeah
yeah
we
used
numbers
from
the
past
master
plan
forecast,
as
well
as
our
most
recent
consultant
for
the
baggage
handling
system,
in
addition
to
what
can
identify
so
they're,
pretty
consistent
across
the
board
fantastic.
So
a
parking
lot
item
it'd,
be
neat
to
see
the
the
previous
10
years
right
to
look
at
those
dips,
so
to
look
at
here's
the
trend
based
on
most
current
information
and
here's.
D
What
happened
to
us
in
the
past
to
address
some
of
the
risk
items
that
Ken
brought
on?
Thank
you,
yeah
Mike.
My
concern
is
that
if
we
do
have
a
recession,
are
we
prepared?
Because
you
have
a
pretty
ambitious
you
know
first
year
and
second
year,
plans
and
well
I,
don't
necessarily
agree.
Recession
is
coming
per
se.
I
think
we
have
to
be
prepared
for
those
eventualities,
I
mean
we
can't.
We
can't
be
prepared,
for
you
know
worldwide
viruses
and
things
of
that
nature
or.
F
Do
you
have
a
thought,
or
are
you
keeping
in
the
back
of
your
mind
that
there
might
be
you
know,
financial
difficulties,
either
on
the
state
or
federal
levels
or
even
City
levels
that
might
not
allow
some
of
these
things
to
occur?
Yes,
so
we've
been
discussing
that
and
preparing
for
that
potential
eventuality.
A
lot
of
the
plans
for
the
first
and
second
years,
frankly
are
operational
plans.
Those
are
things
that
we
could
Implement
with
at
very
little
cost.
F
F
But
that
is
one
of
the
possible
outcomes
here
and
then
we
have
Raul
Ruiz.
Who
is
you
know?
Obviously,
a
democratic,
Congressman
who's
likely
to
be
re-elected
and
we
do
have
business
up
and
down.
The
federal
government
related
to
this
airport
and
I'd
just
like
to
see
us
as
a
commission
figure
out
how
we
engage
with
our
elected
officials,
who
are
on
the
hook
for
advocating
for
us
within
the
federal
bureaucracy.
F
So
if
we
can
get
that
onto
a
commission
agenda,
it's
obviously
not
for
today
on
the
car
on
the
parking
lot.
Okay,
with
no
other
questions,
we
moved
Theresa's
presentation
up.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
spent
more
than
two
hours
at
the
last
meeting
was
with
the
city
attorney.
Most
people
had
pretty
good
feelings
about
the
depth
of
that
conversation,
and
so
we've
asked
Teresa
to
come
and
kind
of
summarize
where
she
is.
Is
the
interim
city
manager
relative
the
role
of
the
airport
Commission.
F
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
invitation
again.
Teresa
Gallivan,
interim
city
manager
and
I'm
glad
to
be
here
with
you
today
and
I'm
glad
I
was
able
to
join
last
week
first
off
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
service.
I
appreciate
that
you
have
given
your
time
and
your
talent
for
the
city's
airport.
It
is
Well
the
regional
airport
and
really
commend
you
for
taking
the
time
today
to
work
on
strategic
planning.
F
It's
been
outlined
for
us
here
already
just
how
much
there
is
to
understand
and
provide
input
on
in
a
very
complex
organization
like
the
Palm
Springs
international
airport.
So
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
make
this
a
priority
out
of
your
busy
schedules
and
your
lives.
Last
week
we
did
have
a
very
good
presentation
from
City
attorney
Jeff
Ballinger,
about
the
commission,
the
role
of
the
commission
and
about
the
brown
act.
So
I
won't
repeat.
D
Everything
it
was,
it
was
very
thorough.
In
short,
he
shared
with
us
that
all
of
our
commissions,
with
the
exception
of
the
city
council
and
the
Planning
Commission,
are
advisory
commissions,
and
that
is
pretty
typical
in
most
cities,
every
place
I've
been
in
and
also
all
of
his
clients.
It's
a
very
important
role
to
be
an
advisory
commissioner,
especially
of
such
a
large
and
complicated
organization
as
the
airport.
So
it
is
a
it
is
a
big
task
and
We
Appreciate
You,
diving
in
to
learn
more
about
the
airport.
He
also
shared
with
us.
D
If
there
are
any
questions
that
come
up
in
the
course
of
your
work
and
you're,
not
sure
if
you
know
there's
a
brown
act
concern
or
if
there's
a
conflict
of
interest
concern,
there
is
support
for
this
group.
So
he
did
make
that
clear
as
well
and
I
wanted
to
share
that
with
you
as
you
move
forward
the
brown
act.
Obviously,
the
brown
act
applies
to
this
group.
D
So
we've
talked
a
lot
about
you
know,
making
sure
we
have
a
quorum
that
you're
not
discussing
things
things
or
having
a
Serial
meeting
or
all
of
the
things
that
I
think
you're
all
pretty
familiar
with.
But
if
you
aren't-
and
you
ever
want
to
refresher,
our
City
attorney
is
available
and
his
team
to
help
with
that,
as
well,
so
really
important
on
when
we
can
and
can't
get
together
in
smaller
groups
and
and
how
it's
done.
D
So
we
must
follow
the
brown
act
and,
if
there's
ever
a
question
he
he
would
be
available
too
to
refresh
anybody's
memory
on
those
details,
because
it's
better
to
check
I,
think
that
is
also
one
of
the
key
takeaways.
It's
always
better
to
check
in
advance
if
you're,
not
sure,
as
opposed
to
you
know
accidentally
having
a
an
issue,
so
I
think
that
really
kind
of
summarized
it.
For
me,
some
of
the
key
takeaways
and
the
presentation
that
he
provided
is
available
I.
D
It
may
have
already
been
distributed
to
the
entire
commission
since
last
week.
If
not,
we
certainly
can
do
that,
and
you
know
what
you're
doing
today
is
so
important,
because
you're
diving
into
a
whole
lot
of
material
about
the
operation
of
this
complex
operation,
and
you
have
the
opportunity
to
then
take
from
this
and
make
informed
recommendations
that
can
go
to
the
council.
That
can
really
have
a
tremendous
impact
on
this
organization
and
the
operation
for
for
years
to
come.
D
So
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
go
through
all
of
these
details
as
a
group
and
provide
feedback.
Provide
advice.
Ask
questions
so
that,
as
a
whole,
this
body
can
can
make
recommendations
and
give
input.
That
is
based
on
what
you've
learned
and
and
you've
learned
here
from
this
opportunity,
and
you
continue
to
learn
as
you
move
forward.
D
So
the
long-term
growth
of
our
airport
is
is
very
critical
and
I
appreciate
all
that
you
are
doing
to
help
provide
input
there
and
we
have
been
working
very
hard
to
try
and
align
Council
goals
and
our
advisory
commission
goals.
So
that
connection
and
that
Loop
of
feedback
is
important,
and
we
by
doing
this,
I,
think
you're
setting
this
group
up
in
a
very
good
way
to
also
be.
D
D
D
So
the
oversight
responsibility
is
to
provide
those
recommendations
to
to
understand.
What's
going
on
at
the
airport,
provide
the
feedback
and
help
give
recommendations
that
can
guide
the
direction
of
the
airport
and
the
airport
operations
and
that
those
can
be
presented
to
the
city
council
as
the
oversight
body,
the
legislative
body
great.
What
from
an
airport
staff
perspective?
What
should
go
through
the
commission
before
it
goes
to
the
council
and
what
should
not
go
through
the
commission
and
go
directly
to
the
council.
D
Typically,
I
think
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
strategic
planning,
Capital
type
operations,
thinking
about
the
bigger
picture
of
the
organization
and
then,
as
far
as
day-to-day
operations
on
you
know,
personnel
and
and
things
like
that-
don't
typically
go
through
an
Advisory
Group.
So
those
are
some
of
the
differentiation
areas,
I'm,
not
keeping
that
kind
of
General,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
what
comes
to
the
commission
is
something
that
is
aligned
with
the
council
priorities.
D
So
if
Council
has
given
us
direction
to
move
forward
on
a
master
plan,
those
are
some
of
the
things
you're
going
to
see
before
they
go
to
council
the
steps
in
that
process
so
we're
looking.
We
would
like
to
have
you
working
on
things
that
align
with
the
council's
goals
and
making
those
recommendations
towards
those
goals.
We
had
a
liaison
I
think
from
the
council
to
the
commission
a
while
back
and
that
seems
to
have
gone
away.
Would
you
support
identification
of
a
council
person
to
be
the
liaison
to
the
commission?
D
G
C
G
C
G
B
I'll
Echo
that
the
airport
is
incredibly
important
and
the
work
that
you
do
is
important
as
an
Advisory
Board
and
to
clarify
the
last
year,
I
said
it
earlier.
The
last
year
really
have
been
working
on
aligning
commission
goals,
not
just
this
commission,
but
all
of
our
committees
commissions
and
boards
with
Council
goals.
That's
really
an
important
aspect
of
being
effective
as
an
organization,
so
in
the
past
year
I
think
some
of
the
changes
there
have
been
changes
that
have
been
discussed
and
those
things
may
roll
out
in.
G
E
Last
year
and
intend
to
do
another
one
with
the
the
new
incoming
Council,
that
is
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
share
where
you
all
are
going
with,
with
the
recommendations
you
have
and
and
other
commissions
and
Boards
as
well,
so
that
again
we
can
have
alignment
between
the
city
council
which
make
you
know,
provides
those
policy
directions
and
all
of
us
who
are
trying
to
implement
that
policy
could
could
I
yeah.
Thank
you.
E
I
appreciate
it
I
just
to
add
a
little
bit
number
one
I
think
you
have
a
very
hard
role
being
interim
city
manager
and
you're
thrown
into
the
swamp,
and
so
you
know
I,
don't
envy
you
but
I'm
sure
you
have
a
lot
of
people
helping
you
try
to
become
successful
in
this
period,
but
what
I
guess
has
taken
a
commissioner's
kind
of
role
in
all
of
this?
We
had
a-
and
you
probably
were
there
I,
don't
remember
we
may
not
have
been
was.
K
At
the
commission,
Council
dinner
and
the
council
really
talked
to
the
Commissioners
and
asked
the
Commissioners
for
feedback.
What
should
we
do
about
this?
What
should
we
do
about
that
and
I
wrote?
I
wrote
down
probably
half
a
dozen
types
of
things
that
they
wanted
to
hear
us
back.
They
wanted
to
hear
from
us
back
to
them
so
in
this
process
of
this
reorganization
or
realignment
of
all
the
commissions
and
with
the
council
goals,
how
does
our
commission
then
communicate
to
the
city
council
for
their
request
at
that
dinner?
L
For
this
feedback
from
the
group
and
I
will
have
to
go
back
and
Replay
that
tape,
but
it
should
come
through
the
body.
The
commission
as
a
whole
and
and
and
staff
can
help
facilitate
that.
So
the
the
recommendations
or
feedback
that
you
have
can
reach
can
reach
the
council
and
I.
Think
the
strategic
planning
sessions
are
priority.
L
Setting
sessions
that
we
do
with
council
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
share
that,
because
during
those
sessions
we
get
to
work
with
Council
and
and
talk
to
them
about
the
variety
of
different
recommended
goals
that
are
out
there
and
which
should
they
put
Priority
to
I.
Think
one
thing
that
has
happened:
I
don't
know
if
it's
happened
here
in
Palm
Springs,
but
in
other
cities
that
I've
been
part
of
or
worked
for.
L
There
used
to
be
one
meeting
a
year
where
the
council
and
the
commission
would
meet
jointly,
and
that
was
a
great
direct
communication
to
communication
between
the
groups.
I
don't
know
if
the
current
Council
has
envisioned
that
or
anything
of
that
nature,
but
I
wanted
to
see
what
your
thoughts
were
about
that,
and
is
there
a
way
to
be
able
to
facilitate
something
like
that?
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
it
is
something
that
has
been
discussed
and
the
previous
city
manager
recommended
that
it's
something
we
do.
J
J
Yeah
just
a
suggestion
and
a
request:
we
tend
to
defer
things
a
lot.
They
move
down
the
road
waiting
for
something
to
happen.
They're
sequenced,
the
request
that
I
would
make
as
a
commissioner
is
that
noting
what
David
said
in
regards
the
elections?
Let's
not
wait!
If
it's
possible
talk
to
your
city
council
members
see
if
anybody
would
volunteer
and
let's
get
on
with
life.
It's
the
commission,
our
chair,
said
it
quite
well
we're
a
big
gorilla
right
there's.
J
If
I
did
my
addition
right,
there's
750
million
dollars
in
the
potential
Capital
plan
going
forward
over
20
years,
there's
10
million
dollars
in
Revenue,
that's
bouncing
around
from
the
airport
in
regards
to
rental
car
and
where
it
should
go.
There's
a
bunch
of
issues
that
I
think
we
should
jump
in
and
try
to
solve.
J
So
a
liaison
with
the
city
council
would
be
helpful,
I
think
sooner
rather
than
later,
so
just
to
correct
one
thing:
sorry
to
correct
something
chairman:
the
city
council
actually
reorganizes
itself
in
early
December,
so
we
will
actually
have
a
new
Council
within
a
matter
of
weeks.
This
is
not
a
January
Council
swearing-in
city.
So,
just
for
the
for
everybody's
knowledge
and
it's
early
December
because
of
the
holidays,
it's
going
to
just
go
to
Christina
for
a
second.
J
Christina
you're
on
mute.
Are
you?
Okay,
sorry
I'm
here?
Sorry,
thank
you.
Anybody
else
checking
now
to
see
if
anyone
has
raised
their
hand
checking
the
screen.
It
looks
like
no.
There
are
no
Commissioners
that
have
comments
to
make
at
this
time.
Good!
Thank
you.
Yes,
Paul!
It's
I
have
a
question.
So
what
are
the
possibilities
of
continuing
with
the
tradition
that
David
ready
had
started,
which
is
having
the
city
manager
be
the
liaison
between
the
city
council
and
the
commission.
J
Theresa.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
joining
I
know,
you
have
other
things
you
have
to
do
so,
I'm
glad
we
could
move
it
up
and
appreciate
your
time
today.
Thanks
for
joining
us.
Thank
you.
It
was
a
pleasure
to
be
here
and
thank
you
for
all.
Your
work.
Amen,
amen,
amen,
just
a
just
to
check
we're
moving
on
to
some
financials
and
the
survey
results
and
we're
going
to
take
a
break.
How
are
people
doing?
Can
we
move
on
to
another
30
minutes
before
we
break
that
work?
Okay,
Victoria.
J
J
My
name
is
Victoria
Carpenter
I'm,
the
airport
Administration
manager
I'm,
going
to
go
over
some
of
the
different
types
of
funds,
as
well
as
grants
and
then
even
go
over
where
we're
at
on
on
our
actuals
versus
our
budget
and
the
type
of
airport,
Improvement
program
and
bipartisan
infrastructure
law
funds
that
we
have
available
to
us.
So
the
airport
has
four
different
funds.
J
Two
of
them
are
restricted
to.
One
of
them
is
the
customer
facility
charge
which
is
fund
405.
To
give
a
brief
description
of
that,
the
customer
facility
charges
are
collected
by
the
rental
car
companies
when
a
passenger
rents,
a
vehicle
effective
on
March
1st
2022
city
council,
approved
to
increase
the
fees
collected
from
a
10
per
transaction
to
a
nine
dollar
per
day
up
to
five
days
so
fund
405.
G
J
J
Busing
system
to
the
conrac,
the
second
restricted
fund
is
the
passenger
facility
charge
fund,
which
is
a
fee
that
passengers
pay
on
their
ticket.
The
fee
is
four
dollars
and
fifty
cents,
and
it's
collected
for
every
and
plain
passenger
up
to
an
18
cap
and
is
remitted
to
the
airport
by
the
airlines
minus
a
service
charge
of
11
cents.
J
The
revenues
collected
can
be
used
for
eligible
airport,
related
projects
like
airport
development,
airport
planning,
terminal
development,
noise,
compatibility
planning,
constructing
Gates
and
converting
vehicles
and
ground
support
equipment
to
low
emission
technology.
Third
is
the
main
airport
and
operations
fund.
This
is
where
we
receive
all
of
our
aeronautical
and
non-aeronautical
revenues
as
well
as
we
operate
out
of
this
fund.
So
all
of
our
expenses
come
out
of
this
fund
that
are
related
to
the
the
daily
weekly
monthly
operating
expenses.
J
As
I
stated,
we
have
the
two
Revenue
sources:
the
airline
Revenue,
which
typically
is
derived
from
Landing
fees,
building
rentals,
hold
room
fees
and
other
Aviation
revenue,
and
then
there's
the
non-aireline
revenue,
which
includes
the
public
parking
ground,
transportation
fees,
terminal
fees
and
other
concessions,
as
well
as
rental
car
fees.
Ground
rents
and
other
operating
revenues
fund
416
is
the
airport
Capital
Improvement
project
fund.
F
Preservation,
Capital
expenditures
are
any
project
over
fifty
thousand
dollars.
There
are
projects
within
the
fund
that
are
self-funded
by
the
airport
and
after
review
from
the
an
approval
from
the
signatory
airlines,
we're
able
to
self-fund
those.
In
addition,
there's
a
portion
of
a
project
funded
by
the
airport
for
projects
under
the
Federal
Aviation
Administration,
also
known
as
the
FAA
for
the
airport
Improvement
program
AIP.
F
The
objective
of
this
Federal
program
is
to
assist
in
the
development
of
a
nationwide
system
of
public
use
airports
to
ensure
the
safe
and
secure
operation
of
the
airport
and
Airway
system
and
to
meet
the
projected
needs
of
the
public.
The
program
not
only
provides
funding
for
development
projects,
but
also
airport
planning
and
noise
compatibility
programs.
F
The
program
is
funded
by
Aviation
use
fees
which
are
collected
and
deposited
into
the
airport
and
Airway
trust
fund
in
support
of
the
AIP.
The
U.S
Congress
authorizes
expenditures
from
this
dedicated
fund
on
an
annual
basis.
Each
year
the
AIP
includes
entitlement
and
discretionary
funding.
Entitlement
funds
are
awarded
to
eligible
airports
through
a
formula
based
on
the
number
of
Passenger
boarding
and
cargo
tonnage
at
each
airport.
F
Discretionary
funds
are
set
aside
to
provide
the
FAA,
the
flexibility
to
fund
various
high
priority
pro
programs
and
the
AIP
provides
funding
of
up
to
90
percent
of
eligible
project
costs
for
Palm
Springs
Airport
AIP.
Grants
must
typically
be
expended
within
four
years
and,
as
the
airport
expends
funds
from
eligible
capital
projects,
it
is
then
reimbursed
with
Grant
proceeds.
F
Additional
funding
is
being
distributed
through
the
AIP
grant
program
enabled
by
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law.
Approximately
5.1
million
per
year
over
a
five-year
period
will
be
allocated
to
Palm,
Springs,
Airport
and
entitlement
funds.
These
Grant
funds
will
primarily
be
focused
on
air
cited
terminal
projects.
There.
I
Commissioner
Miller
you
had
mentioned
that
the
passenger
facility
charge
has
an
upper
limit
and
I
don't
know
if
it
has
a
lower
limit,
but
I
know
it
has
an
upper
limit
who
sets
that
charge
and
how
does
it
get
changed?
So
that
is
a
charge.
That's
set
across
the
board
for
California,
so
there's
a
legislative
statute
that
sets
the
four
dollars
and
fifty
cents
minus
the
11
cents
for
the
service
processing
fee.
So
we
do
get
remitted
to
4.39
or
passenger
okay.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome,
commissioner
Payne.
I
If
I
look
at
all
the
material
we
got
to
prep
for
the
meeting,
it
looks
like
FY,
23
operating
budgets,
33
million
plus
or
minus,
and
the
Capital
Improvements
of
the
capital
projects
is
about
12
million.
Is
that
true,
that's
correct
great,
so
out
of
the
33
million?
If
we
go
back
to
the
org
chart,
the
current
org
chart
that
Harry
presented,
there's
five
city.
M
Services
that
you
consume
from
various
non-airport
departments-
police,
fire,
Etc
out
of
the
33
million
roughly
how
much
money
is
going
to
those
five
City
departments
for
those
Services
I'd
have
to
look
at
that.
I
could
get
back
to
you,
probably
once
we
take
the
break
I'll,
look
at
it
and
I'll
give
you
that
number
okay,
great
and
then
the
12
million
capex
is
that
conceptually
there's
12
million
dollars
on
July
1st
2022
and
we're
going
to
burn
through
all
12
million
by
June
30
2023.
M
M
Okay,
so
the
next
slide
is
a
brief
overview
of
the
fiscal
year,
2021
actuals,
as
well
as
22
actuals,
which
are
actually
unaudited,
we're
currently
going
through
the
audit
right
now.
So
we
won't
have
the
final
numbers
for
that
until
the
audit's
completed,
as
well
as
the
fiscal
year
22
budget
and
the
adopted
23
budget.
M
So,
as
commissioner
Payne
had
had
mentioned,
we
currently
have
33.8
million
in
budgeted
operating
expenses
and
approximately
41
million
in
operating
revenues.
That
would
give
us
a
net
balance
of
7.1
million,
which
essentially,
with
our
residual
agreement
that
Harry
talked
about
earlier.
We
would
have
to
credit
the
airlines
that
that
surplus
of
what
is
there.
So
when
you
look
at
the
actuals
that
are
unaudited
for
fiscal
year
22,
you
see
there's
now
about
9.3
million
dollars.
M
That
would
essentially
have
to
go
back
to
the
airlines
through
the
current
agreement
that
we
have
with
them
and
as
Mr
Barrett
had
mentioned
earlier.
We
are,
you
know,
working
with
the
airlines
to
see
if
we
can
apply
that
to
capital
projects.
So
but
historically
it
is
the
airline's
responsibility
that
if
we
have
any
deficits
that
they
are
covering
those
deficits
and
then,
if
there's
any
surpluses
that
we
are
giving
that
back
to
them
under
the
airport
Improvement
program,
we
had
a
carry
forward.
M
That's
kind
of
working,
also
in
line
with
some
AIP
projects
that
were
happening
that
were
approved
in
fiscal
year.
22,
as
you
all
are
probably
aware
of.
The
federal
government
operates
on
a
federal
fiscal
year
which
starts
on
October
1
and
ends
on
September
30th,
so
our
fiscal
years
kind
of
overlap
with
the
federal
government's
fiscal
year.
M
So
we
do
have
some
funds
there,
there's
a
there's,
a
balance,
that's
remaining
of
4.7
million
with
the
projects
that
we
have
scheduled
to
happen
in
fiscal
year
23
and
then
there's
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
law,
the
bil
that
as
I
was
stating
earlier.
We
do
get
the
entitlement
funds
of
5.1
million
and
we
currently
have
slated
the
arrivals
baggage
claim
expansion,
as
well
as
the
outbound
baggage
handling
system
and
passenger
screening
facility
projects,
and
that
would
give
us
a
remaining
balance
for
fiscal
year.
23
of
600
000..
So.
B
Don't
know
you
pick
your
time
frame
five
years
three
years,
whatever
is
easy
to
do
and
I'm
curious
Harry
if
non-aeronautical
revenue
is
part
of
a
strategic
part
of
our
10-year
20-year
plan
growing
that
so
go
ahead.
So,
yes
to
answer
your
question,
that
is
possible.
We
can
definitely
look
at
that
and
I
think
I
mentioned
this
at
the
the
last
airport
commission
meeting.
B
Our
aeronautical
revenues
are
20
of
our
budget
and
our
non-aeronauticals
are
80
of
our
budget.
So
so
yes,
I,
can
look
at
that
in
more
detail.
We
can
provide
that
information.
Is
it
going
up
down
flat,
I
wouldn't
know
without
looking.
So
let
me
just
double
check
it's
available.
It's
there.
It's
all
put
together.
It
just
I,
can't
remember
that
one
off
the
top
of
my
head,
great,
okay
and
sort
of
answer.
Your
second
question.
Yes,
the
focus
on
non-aeronautical
revenue
is
going
to
be
important
for
us
going
forward.
B
B
D
D
F
D
G
We
are
currently
a
specific
type,
but
you
know
it's
a
huge
difference
in
terms
of
calculating
revenues
when
you
go
from
one
to
the
other
or
in
some
sort
of
hybrid
manner.
So
that'll
be
part
of
this,
so
the
commission
has
some
sort
of
path
saying
well.
If
we
really
want
to
have
that
designation,
then
this
is
you
know
these
are
the
things
that
will
benefit
or
hinder
us,
and
that
should
definitely
be
part
of
the
Strategic
plan.
G
The
reason
for
that
is
the
ability
to
be
more
flexible
with
the
capital
program
and
with
the
operating
budget
we
could
certainly
stay
a
residual
in
a
residual
agreement,
but
we
have
a
lot
less
flexibility
in
that
type
of
arrangement,
and
so
yeah
there
are
trade-offs.
We
do
assume
some
risk,
but
we've
already
been
working
on
that
for
a
few
years
now.
Okay,
so
you
do
want
to
go,
then
that's
kind
of
the
direction.
Correct.
Okay,
if
you
had
your
druthers,
would
you
go
straight?
G
G
Good
answer.
Thank
you
very
difficult.
Yes,
very
good,
I
have
a
question.
How
long
are
the
agreements
for?
Do
they
usually
do
with
the
airlines?
Are
they
five
years
ten
years,
it's
not
uncommon
for
them
to
go
for
10
years,
but
typically
we
try
and
keep
them
around
between
five
and
seven
five
and
seven
okay.
Thank
you.
G
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
move
on
all
right,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of.
Let
you
all
know
our
budget
process
I'm
not
really
quite
sure
how
it
was
done
in
the
past,
but
this
is
the
way
we're
we're
currently
doing
it
and
I'm
definitely
open
to
feedback.
I
I
do
like
to
hear
that
from
the
Commissioners
on
what
they'd
like
to
see
going
forward,
but
we
do
have
we
start
our
budgeting
process
pretty
much.
G
It's
just
like
an
all
year,
long
kind
of
thing,
so
it's
kind
of
starts
November
through
January,
where
we'll
start
reviewing
our
prior
year
and
our
current
year,
financials
we'll
start
meeting
with
our
airport
departments
and
looking
at
the
prior
Year's
budget
and
seeing
where
we
are
with
our
expenses
and
our
revenues
to
date.
And
then
we
go
over
our
Capital
Improvement
project
review.
G
One
of
the
reasons
we
do
a
lot
of
capital
Improvement
reworking
is
because
we
always
have
to
you
know
see
what
our
priorities
are.
What
you
know
things
may
change
over
time,
where
you
know
there's
something:
that's
more
of
a
dire
need
to
get
done
this
year
versus
next
year,
or
maybe
we
could
push
that
down
the
road
two
or
three
years,
and
then
we
also
have
a
five-year
plan
that
we
work
on
for
the
the
FAA.
G
So
we
have
to
provide
that
to
them
and
they
kind
of
plug
that
in
for
our
grants
for
our
entitlement
funds,
and
they
plug
that
in
three
years
out
and
we
go
through
that
review
process
with
the
FAA
that
happens
in
October.
So
then
in
January,
through
February,
the
Departments
submit
the
budget
it
gets
compiled
and
I
review
it.
We
sit
down
with
upper
management
and
we
go
over.
G
Then
we
start
coordinating
and
all
along
we're
coordinating
with
the
city
finance
department,
but
in
the
end,
mostly
we're
coordinating
with
them
on
you
know
getting
that
entered
into
our
new
Financial
system
and
making
sure
that
all
of
our
salaries
and
benefits
are
updated
and
then,
by
no
later
than
June
30th,
we
have
to
get
that
budget
adopted
by
a
city
council
what
lights
up
the
airlines?
What
do
they
go
crazy
when
they
see
it
the
capital
budget,
the
capital
projects,
any
a
real,
a
real
world
example?
G
What
are
you
fighting
about
now
or
did
what
do
I
find
about
say
that
one
more
time?
What
do
you
fight
about
now
or
what
do
you?
What
are
you
fighting
about
now
or
what
did
you
fight
about
last
budget
cycle
with
an
airline
on
the
capital
budget?
We
haven't
at
least
since
I've,
been
here
and
Harry's
been
here.
We
haven't
thought
about
anything
with.
D
Okay,
so,
like
Harry
had
mentioned,
Mr
Barrett
had
mentioned
we're
going
through
the
negotiations
right
now,
and
the
airport
is
trying
to
get
that
Mii
back
in
our
hands
where
we're
able
to
make
those
decisions
on
what
type
of
capital
projects
to
do.
So,
that's
one
of
the
negotiating
points
that
we're
doing
right
now
and
the
airlines
perspective.
D
But
they
say
they
still
want
to
have
that
control
over
how
much
what's
the
the
minimum
requirement
as
of
a
capital
project
versus
our
and
how
much
it
is
and
what
we're
doing
yeah
it's
always
about
control
right
now.
Is
it
fair
to
say
that
they
have
all
the
leverage
in
regards
to
the
current
agreement
and
non-aeronautical
Revenue
I
would
say
yes
yeah?
They
have
a
pretty
significant
amount
of
Leverage
anyway,
more
than
we
do
in
some
cases,
so
yeah
right.
D
I.
Think
two
of
us
on
the
budget
committee
were
a
little
dismayed
after
we
talked
to
the
assistant
Finance
director
here
at
the
city
that
the
finance
project
is
not
the
new
computer
system.
The
new
Finance
system
is
not
moving
as
fast
as
everyone
contemplated
and
thought
of
is
your
thoughts
of
trying
to
take
more
control
of
the
finance
parts
of
the
airport,
and
is
there
any
thought
in
the
near
future?
And
you
know
here
you
can
comment
as
well
about
you
know,
taking
on
more
of
those
roles
that
they
do
now
and.
F
D
There
are
sometimes
efficiencies
in
Sharing
resources
so
to
the
degree
that
we
do
have
a
backup
in
our
finance
department.
It
is
helpful
to
the
airport
to
have
that
support.
That
said,
we
recognize
on
the
staff
that
there
are
some
things
that
we
could
internally
do
to
help
facilitate
their
work,
and
so
yes,
we
do
believe
you
know
adding
someone
with
expertise
on
the
staff
to
help
facilitate
and
help
Victoria
out
with
with
some
of
the
budgeting.
Budgeting
and
accounting
aspects
would
be
helpful
and
we're
looking
at
that
now.
D
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
strategically
plan
for
that.
Having
been
part
of
a
centralized
finance
department
for
many
years
and
then
also
you
know,
you're
at
really
the
mercy
a
lot
of
times
of
the
finance
department
and
how
fast
they
can
get
their
systems
together
and
and
their
so
I
would
really
encourage
you
all
to
work
with
them
and
take
on
as
much
as
you
possibly
can
and
to
be
able
to
do
that,
because
I
think
it's
going
to
help
Victoria
a
lot
well
and
the
rest
of
the
airport.
D
But
you
know
Victoria
a
lot
in
taking
some
some
controls
of
that
and
being
able
to
use
it.
So
is
there
an
estimated
time
when
this
is
going
to
be
done,
so
you
can
get
what
you
need
so
I
think
it's
one
just
learning
the
system
which
definitely
being
involved
with
it
for
a
little
bit
over
a
year
and
a
half.
Now
it's
it's
gotten
a
lot
easier.
D
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
you
were
referring
to
that
was
discussed
in
the
past
was
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
commissioner
Miller,
as
you
wanted
to
see
month
by
month,
I
want
to
say
was
it?
Was
it
like
a
month
by
month
comparison
for
what
our
budget
was
versus?
Our
actuals
is
that
is
that
what
it
was
maybe
well,
that
was
one
of
the
topics
that
we
had.
We
I
think
we
did
about
10.
yeah.
D
D
It's
not
like
a
singular
out
there
and
there's
lots
of
Consultants
out
there.
So
but
I
don't
want
to
get
off
the
topic,
so
you
know
I
I
think
we
really
should
push
that.
Commissioner
Payne
maybe
share
with
you
that
you
know
we
used
to
have
the
finance
director
always
be
present
at
all
our
airport
commissions.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
I
think
it
would
be
very
helpful
Harry.
Would
you
be
able
to
fund
and
again
philosophically
support
if
she
needed
money
to
give
you
what
you
needed
in
reporting?
Would
you
be
able
to
provide
the
funding
so
they
to
get
the
consultant?
Yes
has
you've
done
that
in
the
past
and
she's
rejected
it
or
hasn't
been
offered?
No
I
wouldn't
say
that
I
think
you
know.
Most
of
my
colleagues
and
other
departments
know
where
I
stand
on.
You
know
Staffing
up
the
airport,
I
think
the
issue
is
hey.
D
We
had
to
do
it
in
phases
because
Beyond
just
the
need
for
deep
bench.
You
know,
we've
got
spatial
constraints
and
how
do
you
incorporate
them
into
the
industry
and
how
do
you
think
through
the
process,
but
also
you
know
it's
when
it
when
it
comes
to
working
with
other
departments,
you
know
figuring
out
that,
where
that
partnership
should
exist
can
be
a
challenge,
and
so
that
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
talk
through
with
other
department
heads
and
work
through
those
those
issues.
D
D
Did
everybody
had
a
nice
couple
of
minutes
break
and
while
I
won
my
break
Nancy
Polly,
our
finance
director,
heard
my
comments
and
she
said
that
the
reason
I'm
not
attending
any
of
the
meetings
was
I
was
told
not
to
attend,
and
that
was
not
hairy
but
our
airport
director
prior
to
that,
but
she
said
I'll
be
happy
to
attend
and
the
accounting
system
she
even
said
are
fully
operational.
Functional
and
she'll
be
happy
to
provide
whatever
type
of
reports
this
commission
wants.
It.
D
That's
great
news
good
to
know
here
so
so
our
Victoria
can
now
request
whatever
she
wants
and
then
she
will
assist
and
facilitate.
So
today
we've
got
to
get
that
list
out.
Okay,
good
to
know,
and
then
I
also
found
out
something
else.
Also
and
I.
Don't
know
whether
it's
true
or
not,
but
the
8th
of
January
1
there
will
be
no
liaison
of
any
commissions.
So
I,
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
handle
that,
but
again
that's
for
next
year
and
we
will
do
some
lobbying
and
see
what
we
can
do.
D
What's
your
there,
you
go
and
out
of
the
country
anyways.
His
plan
is
to
go
out
of
the
country,
take
over
a
vice
chair,
Kevin,
all
right,
so
now
we're
going
to
Pivot
and
we're
going
to
look
at
Futures
and
look
at
the
proposed
Investments
and
hopefully,
what
you've
seen
so
far
has
given
you
a
context
for
what
we're
going
to
do
next.
D
But
we
thought
it'd
be
interesting,
just
to
get
a
level
set
to
see
where
we
are
going
into
this
discussion,
and
so
we
we
put
together
this
survey,
send
it
out
to
all
of
you
to
get
a
sense
of
just
where
you
were
relative
to
the
big
big
picture
priorities
that
we
all
look
forward
to
in
this
long-term
plan
and
Victoria.
You
want
to
walk
us
through
kind
of
where
we
are
and
what
we're
thinking
absolutely.
D
D
This
is
the
survey
that
was
sent
out
to
all
of
the
Commissioners
to
get
their
feedback,
and
so
we
went
through
and
we
compiled
the
responses
and
it
you
will
see
the
question
you
will
see
the
resp
the
responses,
along
with
the
number
of
responses
that
the
commissioners
selected
so,
for
instance,
the
one
of
the
first
questions
was
over
the
next
20
years.
What
level
of
growth
do
you
think
is
appropriate
for
Palm
Springs,
and
so
the
options
were
PSP
should
continue
to
pursue
growth
to
continue
the
region.
D
D
The
next
question
was
based
as
States
based
on
current
airport
functions,
which
area
of
the
airport
do,
you
believe,
needs
to
be
focused
on
the
most,
the
Airfield,
the
terminal,
the
land
side
or
general
aviation
and
terminal
main
terminal
and
concourses
received
seven
responses.
Then
Landslide,
like
public
parking,
roadways,
rental,
car
facility
and
public
transit
receipt
received.
D
Four
and
then
Airfield
received
three
which
area
of
the
airport
do,
you
believe,
needs
the
least
attention
13
said
general
aviation,
which
is
the
fixed
base,
operators
and
the
hangers,
and
then
one
said
Airfield
runways,
taxiways
aprons
and
safety
areas
over
the
next
five
years.
What
type
of
future
improvements
do
you
think
should
be
the
highest
priority
for
Palm
Springs
management
number
one
was
replaces
or
improves
aging
infrastructure,
and
then
second
increase
Airfield
capacity
and
passenger
access,
and
one
focused
on
safety
improvements
enhancements
and
improves
compliance
with
Ada.
D
What
type
of
future
improvements
do,
you
think
should
be
the
lowest
priority
for
management
and
historical
preservation
came
in
at
number
one,
and
then
you
see
the
others
there
that
the
different
selections
that
were
made
the
next
highest
would
I
guess,
be
a
tie
between
the
safety
improvements
enhancements
and
the
innovation
technology
and
customer
experience,
including
art.
Excuse
me,
Victoria
sure.
Are
we
going
to
as
part
of
the
program
or
this
section?
Are
we
going
to
talk
about
these
in
detail
a
little
more?
D
Not
this
section,
but
the
next
I'm
just
going
to
present
all
the
survey
results
and
then
we'll
go
into
that
on
the
next
section.
Okay
and
Scott
is
just
to
give
a
little
level
set
of
where
the
group
is
going
into
discussion.
Then
we'll
have
we'll
survey
after
each
of
the
sections
to
see
how
that
changes
or
what
differences
are.
Once
we
look
at
the
specific
Investments.
This
is
just
to
give
us
a
sense
of
where
is
our.
D
D
D
Okay,
you're
welcome
over
the
next
20
years.
What
type
of
future
improvements
do
you
think
should
be
the
highest
priority
for
management
staff
and
that
was
increased,
Airfield
capacity
and
passenger
access,
and
then
in
and
tied
Place
replacer,
improved
aging
infrastructure
and
improve
sustainability
and
Energy
Efficiency
over
the
next
20
years?
What
type
of
future
improvements
do
you
think
should
be
the
second
highest
priority
for
Palm
Springs
management
staff
and
number
one
was
historical
preservation,
then
increased
Airfield
capacity
and
passenger
access,
and
then
safety
improvements
enhancements
and
improves
compliance
with
Ada.
D
This
slide
was
more
of
a
you
know.
Let
us
know
what
you
think
should
be
added
to
the
airport's
Capital
project
Capital
program,
and
some
of
these
are
on
the
existing
Capital
program.
Some
of
them
are
not
I'll
highlight
the
ones
that
are
on
the
capital
program,
so
the
international
arrival
facility
is
on
there
the
main
terminal
Renovations,
the
shade
structures,
the
conrack,
which
is
the
Consolidated
rental
car
facility,
preserve
historical
architecture
and
then
Rehabilitation
of
roadways
and
signage.
D
We
are
currently
developing
that,
as
as
we
speak,
and
then
the
underground
passenger
distribution
system,
and
so
that
one
I
didn't
see
on
our
current
capital
Improvement
project,
but
that
could
be
something
that
we
keep
in
mind
for
later
when
we're
in
our
discussions
for
CIP
Victoria.
Is
this
just
a
non-ranked
list?
So
no
bullet
is
more
important
than
any
other
bullet
in
this
list.
D
D
Okay
and
then
we
also
asked
what
would
be
the
second
project
that
you
think
should
be
added
to
the
airport's
Capital
program
and
so
the
baggage
handling
system
and
the
Energy
Efficiency
program.
Those
are
on
there,
as
well
as
the
arrivals
Wing
expansion
that
would
kind
of
some
of
the
projects
are
kind
of
in
there,
not
specifically
for
the
like
ticket
Wing
area
for
like
ticket
counters
and
queuing
area.
Maybe,
but
that
could
be,
if
you
think
about
it,
it
could
be
included
with
a
terminal.
D
D
D
So
that's
that's
what
we
think
coming
into
this
now
we're
going
to
Pivot
and
we're
going
to
look
at
the
three
different
buckets
of
Investments
and
we'll
come
back
and
we'll
survey
at
the
end
of
each
one
of
these
see
how
people
feel
about
their
priorities
and
then
summarize
that
at
the
end,
so
with
that
we're
turning
it
over
Ramon
you're
you're
leading
this
section.
Yes,
sir
okay,
this
is
these
are
investments
that
are
proposed
for
the
next
five
years.
Sure
the
projects
are
the
summary
of
like
what
they
are
and.
D
Just
for
clarification,
when
it
says
22
through
27,
does
that
mean
they've
already
started
so
you're
already
committed
to
these
22
to
27
projects
yeah
just
for
clarification,
so
they're,
all
in
some
level
or
phase
of
planning,
whether
that's
we've
put
them
on
our
Capital
program
list,
with
the
FAA,
whether
we
budgeted
and
started
the
design
process
or
the
environmental
process
they're
all
in
some
phase
of
work
right
now,
so
this
goes
on
for
several
pages.
So
the
the
way
we
should
think
about
these
is
unless
we
have
a
violent
objection
to
it.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
Mike.
It's
on.
You
can
hear
me
good
afternoon.
Ramon
Sanchez
I'm,
the
interim
operations
manager
for
Palm,
Springs,
Airport
and
I'm,
going
to
go
over
the
various
investment
options
that
we
have
laid
out
for
the
next
several
years.
They're
divided
into
three
sections.
The
airport
is
technically
subdivided
into
three
sections,
land,
side,
terminal
and
airside,
and
all
facets
of
the
airport
are
as
important
as
the
other,
so
they
work
hand
in
hand.
D
The
first
section
we're
going
to
go
over
are
the
air
side,
investment
options
and
the
first
one
is
going
to
be
Ron
parking
spaces
and
that
is
under
the
under
the
subcategory
of
to
increase
our
Field
capacity
and
passenger
access
and
Ron
stands
for
remain
overnight.
That's
to
increase
aircraft
parking.
That's
it's
really
needed
as
we
reach
parking
saturation.
We
want
to
continue
to
stay
ahead
of
that
growth
and
we
can
continue
to
bring
passengers
in
the
next
item.
D
D
Ramon
I
had
a
question
on
Ron:
are
you
losing
Revue,
because
you
don't
have
this
facility,
so
are
people
parking
planes
and
there's
Revenue
being
lost?
No,
but
what
we're
finding
is
the
request
for
additional.
We
have
had
the
luxury
of
not
having
to
turn
any
Airline
away,
and
so,
as
we
get
closer
to
saturation
points
during
from
a
day-to-day
standpoint,
we
need
to
think
ahead.
So
we
don't
run
out
of
space
because
it's
it's
an
inevitability.
D
D
Okay,
all
right
may
I
ask
a
question:
is
it
possible
we
could
have
the
presentations,
then
the
whole
questions
at
the
end
of
each
section.
Would
that
be
easier
back
through
them?
Sure
yeah
we
can
do
that
and
and
just
the
first
ones
that
we're
going
over
are
the
air
side
which
is
going
to
be
everything
beyond
the
terminal,
but
inside
of
our
fence
line
of
the
property
sure
yeah
shall
we
can
we
take
questions
on
like
specific
items
as
we
go
through
just
because
I
have
a
question
on
the
Ron
okay.
D
D
The
construction
is
phase,
two
of
that
and
then
the
Airfield
three
one
left
and
one
three
right,
Rehabilitation
and
Airfield
connector
design,
which
is
where
we're
currently
at
now.
So
these
aren't
listed
in
the
sequence
that
they'll
be
done
because
you
don't
construct
and
then
design
right
correct.
So
my
apologies
I'll
try
to
read
those
in
the
order
they
they're
in
the
Airfield
Rehabilitation
in
design.
The
phase
two
part
will
come
after
the
initial
and
continuing
under
safety
improvements
and
enhancements
to
improve
compliance
with
Ada.
D
We
also
have
we're
in
the
design
phase
of
our
Airfield,
our
taxiway
whiskey
in
Alpha
One
Rehabilitation.
The
design
has
already
begun
that
will
follow
the
construction
phase
of
Airfield.
Excuse
me
taxiway
whiskey
and
taxiway
Alpha
One,
followed
by
gate
16
of
pavement
Rehabilitation.
That
is
already
in
the
beginning
phases
of
the
construction
piece.
D
I'm.
Sorry,
could
you
talk
about
hotspot?
That
sure
is
sure,
Hot
Spot
studies
to
identify
any
area
of
our
Airfield,
where,
as
it
pertains
to
our
ramps,
our
taxiways,
our
runways,
that
can
mitigate
any
accidents
or
potential
accidents
from
aircraft
that
are
taxing
Landing
or
departing?
We
are
continuously
looking
at
areas
to
improve
pilot
confusion
or
just
in
general
anybody
they
may
have
access
to
the
surrounding
area
to
avoid
any
accidents.
D
So
so,
basically,
in
the
next
five
years,
the
whole
Airfield
is
going
to
be
repaved
and
be
upgraded.
Is
that
is
that
a
accurate
conclusion?
No
we're
just
looking
at
our
main
taxiway
whiskey,
which
is
parallel
to
the
the
commonly
used
Runway,
our
main
Runway
and
our
main
Runway
is
looking
at
some
Rehabilitation.
So
just
a
portion
or
I
would
say,
half
half
correct
for
the
questions.
D
Hello,
so
we
did
a
pavement
study
on
the
runway
and
from
that
pavement
study
there
was
the
conclusion
that
we
needed
to
do
Rehabilitation
of
the
pavement,
so
we
needed
to
fix
cracks
and
Ramon.
You
could
definitely
jump
in
on
this
part,
but
we
needed
to
fix
cracks
of
the
runway
if
there
was
any
uneven
surfaces
of
the
runway,
and
so
there
was
an
index
that
they
they
did
the
study
on
and
they
had
this
index
and
the
index
stated.
D
You
know
these
areas
are
of
high
priority,
and
so
this
is
what
we
need
to
focus
on,
and
so
that's
where
those
rehabilitations
and
we're
doing
them
in
phases
because
of
emissions.
We
don't
want
to
have
too
much
going
into
the
environment
with
the
type
of
work
that
we're
doing
and
so
there
you
know
that
we
have
two
runways
and
so
we're
doing
just
two
sections
of
the
runways
and
one
is
whiskey
and
the
other
is
Alpha
One
and
then
there's
another
section
of
the
runway.
D
The
three
one
left
and
one
three
right
that
we're
working
on.
So
those
were
based
off
of
a
study
that
was
conducted
and
now
we're
just
fulfilling
that
that
obligation
based
off
of
that
study
and
then
to
better
give
you
understanding
these
two
sections
of
our
air
filter.
They
primarily
use
sections
of
the
commercial
aircraft,
so
they're
the
most
frequently
used.
So
they
get
a
lot
of
they
get.
That
pavement
gets
a
lot
of
use.
D
A
question
a
similar
size,
Regional
airports,
especially
in
Europe,
that
are
pressed
for
space.
They
use
the
Ron
spaces
as
a
flex
space
for
remote
boarding,
but
then,
of
course,
you
have
to
worry
about
Jet
Blast
from
passing
aircraft.
Things
like
that,
it
all
has
to
be
taken
into
context.
Is
there
any
concepts,
conceptualization
or
ideas
to
utilize
those
additional
spaces
for
both
Rons
and
remote
boarding,
so
for
high
demand
times
of
the
year?
Sure?
Yes,
so
one
of
our
requests
in
our
AIP
May
sit
on
your
sheet
was
for
six
zero
emission
buses.
D
D
Well,
they
have,
obviously
you
know
Revenue
implications,
but
the
FAA
basically
says
we
need
to
figure
it
out,
Valentine's
purposes
in
general,
but
obviously
capacity
constraints.
You
know
we're
limited
to
the
space
that
we
have
the
parked
aircraft
and
so
we're
cognizant
of
that
and
we're
trying
to
stay
ahead
of
it
so
that
we
can
continue
to
grow
so,
but
yeah
Revenue
loss
is
definitely
part
of
not
having
the
ability
to
park
aircraft.
D
D
Yeah
I
have
a
question
about
the
hot
spot
mitigation.
So
it's
almost
three
million
dollars
there,
which
I
take
to
mean
we
have
some
known
Hot
Spot
issues,
even
though
we're
doing
a
study
are
there
known,
Hot
Spot
issues
that
we
need
to
deal
with,
and
can
you
elaborate
on
those
actually
I'll?
Let
Ramona
elaborate
on
those
yeah?
D
Well,
we've
have
we
have
had
hot
spots
identified.
We
annually
evaluate
our
Airfield
with
the
FAA,
and
there
are
some
that
are
identified
based
on
a
number
of
reported
pilot
deviations,
as
they
call
they're
called
without
having
had
anything
occur
on
the
safety
side
of
things.
These
numbers
are
recorded
and
reported
to
the
FAA
and
on
an
annual
basis
we
assess
we
evaluate,
and
so
there
are
some
things
that
can
be
done
to
increase
the
visibility
of
a
say.
D
Okay,
this
again
like
I,
said
earlier.
This
is
the
best
of
my
frail
recollection,
the
first
time
in
three
years,
I
think
I've
heard
about
Hot
Spot
issues
at
the
airport
and
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
have
a
at
least
a
semi-annual
report
to
the
commission
on
hot
spot
matters
so
that
we're
informed
about
them
in
the
cities,
and
you
know
the
whatever
that
the
community
I
don't
think
it's
a
community,
but
the
the
people
who
are
sort
of
have
some
oversight.
Responsibility
are
informed
about
those
things
and
I.
D
I
did
a
quick
sum
of
of
these,
and
it's
about
40
million
dollars
plus
or
minus
for
the
land
side.
If
you
do
a
sum
on
a
couple
of
pages
plus
or
minus
on
the
air
side,
you
mean
yeah
airside.
Yes,
yes,
that's
correct
and
back
to
the
earlier
statement.
These
are
already
in
process.
It
sounds
like
you
need
to
do
it
from
a
compliance
or
perhaps
an
insurance
or
a
risk
management
perspective.
These
are
none.
There
is
nothing
here,
that's
optional,
correct!
D
That's
pretty
accurate
based
on
the
projects
I'm
looking
at
right
now,
so
yeah.
All
of
these
were
either
things
that
were
identified
over
time.
Maybe
the
regulation
changed
or
maybe
pavement
degraded
and
we
needed
to
replace
it
as
a
part
of
the
natural
process.
The
Hot
Spot
study
and
the
wildlife
study
in
particular
were
FAA
mandated
yeah
so
yeah.
D
When
we
go
back
to
your
org
chart,
there's
those
five
City
agencies
that
we
pay
money
to
are
they
involved
the
engineering
group
or
anybody
else,
or
is
this
all
specialty
Consultants
that
know
how
to
do
this
stuff
at
airports
with
construction?
So
we
we've
hired
consultants
for
most
of
this
now.
Some
of
this
may
be
tangentially
coordinated
with
some
of
the
other
departments,
with
engineering
or
planning
or
one
of
the
other
departments,
but
generally
speaking,
we
hire
Consultants
to
manage
that.
D
So
is
it
fair
to
say
that
the
majority
of
the
effort
and
the
funding
I'm
going
to
say,
95
98
99,
is
directly
to
getting
this
work
done
and
very
little
one.
Two
three
percent
is
going
to
a
city
agency
to
either
oversee
or
provide
a
PE
stamp
or
anything
like
that.
That's
an
accurate
statement.
Okay,
thank
you.
D
D
Some
of
them
were
mandated,
so
the
hot
spot
study
in
the
wildlife
study
were
mandated.
That
was
one
where
the
FAA
had
asked
us
for
a
number
of
years
to
undertake
those,
and
so
we
finally
agreed
the
others
are
a
part
of
the
normal
operation
of
running
an
airport
right.
So
you
generally
would
replace
your
Runway,
particularly
if
it's
heavily
used
every
eight
to
ten
years.
Your
taxiway
is
going
to
degrade,
especially
if
it's
heavily
used.
You
would
replace
that
every
15
years
Etc.
D
So
the
way
it
works,
we
plan
and
five-year
Cycles
with
the
FAA.
So
we
usually
see
these
things
pretty
in
advance
and
we're
usually
planning
that
out
three
or
four
years
in
advance.
We,
there
are
a
number
of
ways.
We
can
do
it.
We
do
start
with
our
entitlement
funds,
but
we
could
stack
those
entitlement
funds
roll
them
over.
They
do
give
us
higher
priority
for
discretionary
and
situations
where
you
know
it
is
truly
a
safety
issue
and
they
want
to
address
it
right
now.
D
All
right
and
now
we're
moving
on
to
the
land
site,
which
is
everything
in
out
Beyond
in
front
of
the
terminal
that
is
airport
property
or
under
our
purview.
The
first
few
projects
are
going
to
fall
under
improve
sustainability
and
Energy
Efficiency
we're
looking
at
converting
airport
vehicles
to
zero
emissions,
that's
to
be
determined
right
now
on
cost
wise,
because
we
need
to
phase
all
of
that.
D
D
And
continuing
under
increased
Airfield
capacity
and
passenger
access
looking
to
redesign
the
Kirk
Douglas
way,
Loop
roadway,
followed
by
the
construction
of
that
and
then
property
acquisition,
which
is
a
partial
South
south
of
the
property
of
the
Airfield
of
the
airport
property
and
then
under
innovation,
technology
and
customer
experience,
including
art.
We're.
D
D
It's
it's
in
design,
so
I'm
struggling
with
what
what
is
going
to
be
in
the
master
plan
for
the
review
approval
by
the
commission,
Etc
versus
the
ship
has
already
left
the
dock
and
it's
steaming
down
to
Tahiti,
so
I'm,
what's
going
on
doctor,
so
the
conrex
specifically
was
one
where
it
went
to
concept
design
and
was
you
know
when
covid-19
kind
of
took
off
in
2020?
There
was
a
decision
made
to
stall
that
project
since
we
have
somewhat
recovered
from
the
pandemic.
D
We've
continued
to
make
a
strategic
decision
to
stall
that
project
and
the
reason
was
because
of
some
of
the
things
that
I
mentioned
earlier
on
in
the
presentation,
and
that
was
involving.
Where
do
you
put
a
cargo
facility
where
you
put
in
FIS?
Where
do
you
put
all
these
other
things
that
we're
trying
to
entertain
that
are
competing
with
Conrad?
So
while
we
have
it
on
the
capital
program
right
now,
it
is
not
actively
being
designed.
That's
going
to
be
captured
in
the
master
plan
process.
D
The
other
side
of
that
is
the
conrec
would
be
funded
completely
separately
of
what
our
Airfield,
what
falls
in
our
Airfield
and
our
terminal
coffers.
So
we
charge
a
CFC
for
the
conrack,
whereas
typically
anything
on
the
Airfield
or
in
the
terminal,
we're
leveraging
AIP
funds,
non-aeronautical
revenues,
concessions,
revenues,
etc,
etc.
D
So
I
guess
my
parking
lot
request.
Kevin
would
be
maybe
a
little
more
clarity
in
the
next
rev
of
the
slide,
so
we
know
what's
actively
being
worked
and
we're
going
to
do
like
the
air
side
that
we
just
talked
about
versus
some
of
these
land
side
initiatives.
Sure
that'd
be
helpful
because
I
would
we
get
lost
on
what
you're?
Where
are
you
and
what
phase
and
what's
been
committed
to
so
I'll
rephrase
in
my
language.
D
Tell
me
if
I'm
correct,
when,
when
this
Pro
program
was
on
the
front
burner,
there
was
a
needs
analysis
that
was
completed
and
I.
Remember,
Tom
saying
that
if
we
gave
everything
everybody
everything
they
wanted,
it
would
be
a
six-story
facility
and
there
was
a
debate
about
splitting
it
up
and
having
buses
and
everything
else.
Have
you
updated
or
is
that
part
of
the
thing
this
process
to
update
the
needs
analysis
to
see
what
we
need?
Now,
that's
a
fair
State
assessment
yeah.
We
would
update
that
during
the
master
plan
process.
D
I
understand
what
we
would
need
now:
okay,
someone
else
had
a
question:
EV
charging
so
I'm
just
curious:
what
does
4.4
million
dollars?
How
many
EV
Chargers
does
that
get
you
do
we
know
that
kind
of
granularity?
Would
this
be
overall
future
parking
lots
and
would
they
be
Revenue
generating
or
would
the
city
pay
for
those?
Because
right
now
you
currently
don't
have
to
pay
anything
to
charge.
D
But
if
you
go
to
any
of
the
casinos
you
have
to
plug
in
and
there's
a
a
payment
option,
I
think
all
the
EV
charging
well
I.
Don't
think
that
we're
going
to
have
the
the
capacity
to
generate
revenue
from
from
any
of
the
UV
charging
that
we
put
and
included
in
that
is.
Park
is
EV
charging
in
the
public
parking
areas
as
well
as
for
ground
equipment.
D
As
the
industry
changes,
we
have
to
try
to
accommodate
for
that
as
well,
which
is
also
so
that
kind
of
moves
between
landside
and
airside
correct,
okay,
correct,
but
it's
all
the
revenue
generation
is,
is
highly
in
the
plan
and
approximately
how
many
space,
how
many
charging
units
does
this
allow
for
so
short
term
right
now,
I
think
we're
forecasting,
40
or
so.
According
to
Jacob's
last
plan.
D
Duel
so
40
EV
Chargers
with
their
that
are
dual
Chargers
with
80
spots,
any
of
them
high
powered
charging
stations.
But
you
have
a
great
opportunity
to
recoup
great
revenues
that
was
the
intent
was
to
have
some
high-powered
and
or
I
think
there's
called
level
two
and
level
three
one
two
and
three
okay,
and
so
we
were
going
with
the
level
twos
and
level
threes.
D
D
If
you
recall
a
little
bit
earlier
in
my
slides
I
mentioned
that
there
were
two
identified
locations
for
the
Conrad
facility.
One
was
the
preferred
which
was
the
land
that
was
sold.
That
was
the
parcel
that
we
had
intended
originally
intended
on.
Acquiring,
given
new
information
that
had
recently
been
purchased
were
on
the
fence
about
whether
to
continue
to
pursue
that
or
not.
If
we
do
pursue
it,
then
we
would
continue
to
budget
for
that.
Okay,
can
you
go
back
to
the
prior
slide.
D
D
D
That
would
be
the
total
cost
of
a
facility
if
it
were
constructed
as
envisioned
as
originally
envisioned
was
250
million
dollars,
and
that
was
based
on
what
the
consultant
provided
at
the
time
under
director
Nolan
was
that
250
million
dollar
price
tag
with
regard
to
I
I,
think
for
us
it
would
have
been
way
too
onerous
and
complicated
to
split
out
the
funding
sources
on
these
sides
slides.
So
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
they're
lumped
into
to
one
because
you've
got
so
many
different
funding
sources.
D
And
we
actually-
because
you
had
raised
the
question
with
us
because
remind
me-
your
name
again:
commission
Wiseman,
yeah,
okay,
commissioner
Wiseman
commissioner
Wiseman,
had
raised
that
question
with
us,
like
250
million
for
design
and
it
typically
it's
10
of
cost
of
what
the
the
whole
construction
Project's
going
to
be.
But
we
actually
budgeted
for
2
million
this
year
in
our
expenses
for
the
customer
facility
fund.
D
D
So
I'd
like
to
remind
the
commission
that
we
recently
we've
been
planning
for
this
for
a
while,
and
that
was
based
off
a
a
report,
an
analysis
that
recondo
prepared
for
the
airport
and
they
were
trying
to
determine
what
was
going
to
be
needed
in
order
for
us
to
fund
this.
So
there
is
a
report
out
there
and
it's
actually,
you
probably
could
find
it
when
we
went
to
city
council,
because
we
were
the
whole
reason
why
we
increased
our
rates
from
the
ten
dollars
transaction
to
the
nine
dollars
per
day.
D
Don't
remember
the
numbers
right
now,
but
we
needed
to
hit
a
certain
amount
before
we
can
actually
take
out
those
those
bonds.
So
that's
the
whole
reason
why
we
worked
with
the
car
rental
companies
so
that
we
could
increase
the
rates
to
the
new
rates
so
that
we
could
start
collecting
more
and
which
we're
seeing.
You
know
it's
working
great
for
us
right
now,
but
we
are
going
to
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
beef
up
the
reserves
so
that
we
can
get
to
that.
D
That
number
and
I'm
sorry
I,
don't
have
the
information
right
now
in
front
of
me.
But
there
is
a
report
out
there.
It's
a
very
detailed
report.
It
goes
through.
It's
probably
like
probably
50
pages,
and
it
discusses
what
we
need
to
do
for
us
to
go
through
those
three
different
funding
options
and-
and
there
was
even
like
a
deferred
defer
for
five
or
six
years
to
so,
we
can
get
a
lot
of
reserves
so
that
we
can
actually
fund
half
of
it.
There
was
a
discussion
about
doing
it
in
phases.
D
There
was
also
discussion
about
potentially
doing
like
going
through
what
the
costs
were
and
maybe
cutting
some
things.
So
there
there
was
plans
and
we've
kind
of
been.
The
first
step
was
increasing
that
CFC
rate,
so
we
could
start
collecting
more
to
beef
up
our
account
in
Victoria.
How
many
total
new
spaces.
D
D
I
got
the
number
now
and
that's
with
just
three
car
companies
that
we
have
here
now
and
all
three
of
those
car
companies
are
100
in
favor
of
all
of
this.
Yes,
so
go
ahead,
so
I'm
still
confused,
so
I
I
got
the
sense
from
Harry
a
moment
ago
that
it
was
suspended.
But
it
sounds
to
me
when
I
hear
this
discussion.
You've
already
made
the
decision
you
go
on
forward,
you're
banking
buckaroos
in
the
bank.
D
So
is
this
a
done
deal
so
the
only
thing
that
we've
suspended
was
actually
citing
the
facility
designing
the
facility
and
making
sure
you
know
moving
forward
the
construction
process.
What
we
haven't
suspended
was
the
idea
that
we
need
a
Conrad,
because
we
don't
have
the
space
to
accommodate
the
rental
car
needs.
D
We
made
a
calculated
decision
right
right
before
well
right
as
the
pandemic
was
hitting
to
suspend
it
not
only
based
on
just
the
general
concern
of
where
the
economy
was
headed
at
the
time,
but
also
some
of
these
inputs,
such
as
you
know,
do
we
have
enough
Revenue
to
continue
on.
Is
it
cited
in
the
right
spot?
Is
this
really
the
structure
that
the
city
or
the
rental
car
companies
want?
So
we
took
all
of
that
into
account.
D
We
said
we're
not
going
to
move
forward
right
now
with
constructing
something,
because
we
need
to
get
on
the
same
page
about
what
we
actually
want
to
construct
and
that's
what
we're
doing
now.
Is
that
analysis?
So
the
decision
was
made
just
roughly
in
2018,
based
on
analysis
done
in
2018
early
2019.
D
in
terms
of
the
report.
Yeah
that'd
be
accurate.
Well,
the
decision
to
move
forward
with
the
conrack-
yes,
so,
okay,
so
does
I
guess
my
personal
opinion
is
things
have
changed
significantly
since
that
decision?
So
it
is
a
big
chunk
of
change
and
we
are
talking
about
a
20-year
plan.
I'm,
not
certain
we're
going
to
get
around
the
way.
D
We
used
to
during
the
planning
period
that
we're
talking
about,
and
speaking
personally
is
just
one
commissioner
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
the
decision
Revisited,
but
if
I'm
the
only
guy
wanting
that
then
fire
I'll
step
back
I,
was
just
wondering
commissioner
and
Hedrick.
Oh
sorry,
I
was
wondering,
commissioner
Hedrick.
D
If
you
might
be
able
to
speak
to
why
generally
these
types
of
facilities
are
so
expensive
because
my
income
or
my
assumption
would
be
that
they're
generally
mostly
pavement
for
parking,
the
the
no
they're
there
are
multi-story
parking
garages
which
have
a
there
is
a
reception
area
for
all
the
rental
car
companies.
That's
pretty
nice.
D
D
So
will
this
need
to
go
back?
Well,
okay,
I!
Guess
we'll
talk
about
that
when
we
talk
about
the
specific
project
because
probably
needs
to
go
back
through
us
into
the
city
council
as
well.
I
would
imagine
okay
and
I
guess
my
other
question
now
off
the
car,
but
the
parking
lots
I
thought
that
was
a
good
idea,
whoever
put
in
the
idea
of
a
two-story
parking
structure.
D
I'm,
not
sure
the
feasibility
of
that
has
that
ever
been
looked
at
even
in
a
kind
of
conceptual
type
of
situation,
as
a
matter
of
fact
so
and
in
combination
with
what
we
were
just
discussion
discussing
was
the
conracks.
So
the
idea
at
the
time
was
okay.
How
do
we
fund
the
conrack
potentially
combine
a
con
rack
with
a
parking
facility
to
do
that?
D
Oh
okay,
I
think
the
parking
facility
is
going
to
be
a
lot
more
feasible
construction
wise
than
a
con
rack,
but
you
know
I
think
that
we
should
look
at
that
now.
I
know
there
are
some
challenges
with
the
the
topography
around
the
airport
and
water
tables
and
all
sorts
of
things
you're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
because
I'm
not
sure
the
FAA
likes
you
going
up.
D
You
know
so
you
know,
depending
on
you
know
where
you're
placing
that
but
I
think
that
should
definitely
be
looked
at.
I
hate
to
spend
four
five
six,
seven,
eight
million
dollars
on
parking
when
we're
trying
to
expand
parking,
which
I
know,
is
a
as
a
need
right
now,
but
then
have
to
throw
that
money
away.
You
know
if
we
decide.
Oh
yeah
two-story
is
a
much
better
deal,
so
I
hope
that
you
know
we
look
at
that.
D
D
D
D
Ad
improvements
for
sensory
calming
any
improvements
for
site,
impaired,
conveyance
replacement.
We
need
to
replace
our
three
elevators
and
our
two
escalators
procure
a
3000
gallon
ARF
truck
fire
department,
a
restroom
capacity
and
Ada
renovations
and
then
phase
two
for
shaded
areas
over
the
Santa,
Rosa
and
adjacent
seating.
D
It'd
be
neat
if
there
is
a
way
to
take
the
growth
chart
that
can
put
together.
That
feels
pretty
much
spot
on
based
on
Harry's
comments
as
well
and
staff
and
then
map
these
Improvement
requests
to
that
growth.
So
the
the
title
is
2227
and
what
I'd
love
to
better
understand
is:
what's
the
window
that
you
need
to
start
and
stop
these
things
and
bring
them
up
online
based
on
that
anticipated
growth.
D
So,
if
I
get
a
big
win,
if
I
check
all
four
boxes,
so
that
would
pop
to
the
top
and
something
that
only
checked
one
box
unless
it's
compliance
would
perhaps
fall
down
below.
So
that
kind
of
resorting
of
of
all
of
these
initiatives
other
than
the
ones
you
have
to
do.
The
first
part
that
we
went
through
the
airside
I
think
that
would
help
generate
really
good
discussion
around
you
know
we
got
to
split
the
baby.
When
do
we
do
it?
Etc.
D
I'm
going
to
respond
to
that
I,
what
you
don't
see
on
here,
what
we
probably
should
have
provided
was
our
strategy
and
approach
to
how
we
were
funding
them,
because
if
you
look
at
that
Matrix,
it
provides
a
lot
more
clarity
on
that
Nexus
that
you
were
referring
to.
Some
of
these
obviously
might
be
gone.
I'm
sorry,
the
money
might
be
gone
so
that
might
be
driven
by
funding
availability
right.
Exactly
that
you
know.
So
some
of
these
were
solely
entitlement
or
solely
airport
revenues.
D
D
Do
we
have
money,
I,
don't
know
where
we
are
with
the
concessions
piece,
we're
close
okay,
this
six
million
dollars
that
you're
talking
about
is
that
to
support
whoever
the
winners
are
this
process?
For
example,
there
was
a
concern
that
the
forecast
for
food
and
beverage
was
way
way
more
expensive
than
their
Capital
plans,
but
allow-
and
some
people
were
backing
away
from
bidding
on
food
and
beverage.
Does
that
six
million
could
that
six
million
dollars?
That's
here
mitigate
some
of
those
concerns
about
the
airport,
sharing
costs
for
concessions.
D
So
if
it's
the
largest
site,
so
that
was
just
getting
it
up
to
back
to
being
operational
for
concessionaire
to
be
able
to
come
in,
that
was
the
primary
focus
for
that
6
million,
and
that
is
just
more
of
like
a
future
plan.
It
wasn't
it
wasn't
exactly
for
this
current
concessions,
RFP
that
went
out
so
they're
not
factoring
this
into
the
bids
that
we're
looking
at
now
correct.
Okay,.
D
D
Not
definitively,
but
we
believe
there
is
Terrazzo
under
the
carpet.
Is
there
any
Merit
in
looking
at
that
in
this
process
to
bring
that
back,
as
some
people
have
suggested,
Daniel
and
I
were
discussing
that
with
Mr
Wexler
yesterday,
so
yeah,
here's
a
mirror
to
that,
just
a
thought.
If
it
exists
underneath,
then
it
could
be
I,
believe
I've,
seen
vintage
pictures
of
it.
I
believe
there's
a
logo
or
some
design
in
the
center
too,
is
that
right,
yeah
it's
around
the
terrazzo
other
than
Aesthetics.
D
D
But
this
was
the
idea
that
you
take
the
Excel,
the
big
Excel
spreadsheet
in
circle,
four
of
the
things
that
you
think
from
this
first
section,
which
is
the
five
year
window
just
circle,
the
four
that
you
think
are
most
important,
yep
four
line
items
you
think
are
more
most
important
and
then
we're
just
going
to
collect
them
and
just
see
if
what
what
we
agree
perspective
of
cost
yep.
What
do
you
think
are
the
four
most
important
things
that
you'd
Advocate?
We
spend
time
on
moving
forward.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
Can
I
answer
a
quick
question
for
commissioner
Payne
Ms
Ramon
I,
just
when
you
asked
about
the
full-time
employees
wanted
to
update
you
of
the
airport
staff
of
69
employees.
We
have
20
vacancies,
we're
trying
to
fill
I
think
we
have
four
or
five
that
are
currently
going
through
the
process
of
getting
fully
hired,
but
we're
still
trying
to
hire
an
additional
15
to
get
us
to
where
we're
allocated
so
69
5
in
the
process
total
of
20
for
89,
and
that's
your
done
and
you're
done
at
89.
D
79
and
that
doesn't
include
fire
or
PD.
That's
just
the
airport.
Correct
got
it!
Thank
you.
Okay,
put
your
names
on
them
and
just
hand
them
out
to
Christina
she's,
going
to
give
us
a
sense.
The
totals
a
little
later
in
our
meeting
and
I
think
Victoria
we're
ready.
Now
we're
going
to
look
at
the
five
to
ten
year
window.
D
So
go
ahead
when
we
look
at
the
next
two
windows
kind
of
getting
back
to
I
think
what
John
said
earlier
are:
these:
are
these
really
wishlist
pieces
or
a
lot
of
these
proposals
are
mandatory
they're
going
to
be
acquired,
because
this
is
where
the
airport
is
at
that
time,
can
you
use
a
sense
of
how
much
of
this
is
really
a
hard
and
hardwired
to
get
done
versus
Investments?
That
may
have
more
flexibility
or
more
options,
so
typically,
how
it
works
is
everything.
D
That's
super
high
priority
and
required
we're
generally
going
to
front
load
that
in
our
Capital
program
and
then,
as
we
get
further
out,
it's
more
wish
list
so,
five
to
ten
years,
there's
probably
a
mix
and
then,
as
you
look
Beyond
10
years,
it's
pie
in
the
sky.
This
is
what
we
hope
to
achieve.
Got
it
that's
helpful.
Thank
you.
Go
ahead
and
I
would
also
consider
the
Airfield
as
a
very
important
asset
to
the
airport,
so
that's
most
likely
going
to
be
something
that
would
be
a
priority
of
getting
completed
for
a
project.
D
Keep
that
in
mind.
So
this
is
projects
with
that
out.
After
the
five
years,
so
within
the
next
10
years,
so
as
far
as
the
Airfield
goes,
there's
the
Airfield
three
one
right,
one
three
left
rehab,
which
would
be
just
this:
the
small
Runway.
So
what
we
didn't
do
during
our
first
two
phases
from
the
PMI
study
the
pavement
management
index
study.
D
Then
there
is
the
rebel
removal
and
paint
removal
equipment.
So
currently
we
contract
that
out
pretty
much
over
time
as
you
start
painting
and
repainting,
so
that
you
could
see
all
the
lines
on
the
Airfield
that
starts
to
build
up,
and
then
that
starts
to
create
an
uneven
surface
for
the
aircraft,
that's
landing,
and
so
that
is
a
hazard.
So
we
are
looking
to
actually
purchase
the
equipment
and
take
care
of
that
ourselves
rather
than
Contracting
that
out.
D
D
Okay,
aside
from
that,
is
the
the
landside
improvements
so
we're
considering
a
covered
solar
public
parking
installing
a
solar
farm.
So
we're
going
to
determine
with
the
master
plan
where
that
location
would
be
it's
going
to
get
us
closer
to
being
more
green
than
increasing
the
Airfield
capacity
and
passenger
axis
would
be
an
intermodal
Transportation
facility.
D
Harry.
Can
you?
Can
you
just
describe
that
a
little
bit
more,
please
sure.
So
a
lot
of
airports
are
doing
this
now,
and
this
is
actually
consistent
with
our
broader
City
goals,
which
is
to
make
sure
that
we
have
Regional
Transportation
that
supplies
the
airport,
so,
whether
that's
bus
rail
street
car,
whatever
else
we
need
to
have
a
facility
available
so
that
people
who
typically
aren't
able
to
get
to
the
airport
can
do
so.
D
D
They'll
do
background
checks,
the
fingerprinting
and
the
badging,
and
it's
in
a
really
little
tiny
confined
space
and
all
these
people
all
day
long
are
coming
through
and
they're
literally
getting
inspected
and
and
going
through
the
application
fingerprinting
process,
so
we're
hoping
to
expand
that,
but
also
make
it
an
alternate
control
center.
So,
at
this
very
moment
we
do
have
the
control
center
attached
to
it,
the
control
center
and
Ramon.
Please
feel
free
to
jump
in,
because
this
is
your
department.
It's
your
specialty.
D
The
control
center
is
the
One-Stop
shop
for
everything
that
happens
here
at
the
airport.
So
they
are
it's
kind
of
neat
to
go
in
there's
multiple
screens
everywhere,
and
it's
showing
you
all
the
people
that
are
badging
in
and
out
at
all
the
doors
it's
reading
their
badges.
It's
so
some
of
that
security,
sensitive
Victoria,
but
okay,
okay,.
D
It's
the
heartbeat
of
the
airport,
it's
a
combination
of
like
a
9-1-1
call
center,
along
with
we
oversee
all
the
they're.
The
employees
who
see
everything
that's
going
on
on
the
property,
all
the
cameras
access.
They
also
are
the
ones
that
conduct
all
the
inspections
of
the
pavement.
The
Lighting
systems,
the
the
Airfield
taxiways
all
of
the
parking
areas
they're
on
the
property
24
7.,
so
that
control
center
is
vital
from
a
day-to-day
operation.
Speak.
D
2.5
mil
and
then
and
then
we
also
have
incorporate
the
landside
operations,
and
so
what
that
means
is,
as
Harry
was
saying
earlier,
we
would
we
were
considering
you
know:
can
we
develop
a
landside
operation
division
where
we
have
our
own
landside
management?
That's
literally
overseeing
all
of
the
parking,
the
public
parking,
the
curbs,
the
commercial
Lanes.
D
So
right
now
our
maintenance
is
spread
out.
We
have
some
maintenance
supervisors
that
are
in
our
administration
offices
office,
and
then
we
have
some
that
are
in
a
dungeon
underneath
the
Bono
Bono
Concourse.
So
it
would
be
nice
to
have
all
of
our
inventory
all
in
one
spot.
We
have
it
all
inventored.
We
know
where
we
need
to
go
for
something.
D
So
it's
just
a
first
come
first
serve
basis,
so
it'd
be
nice
to
have
either
an
additional
or
a
larger
meeting
room
conference
room
and
it
could
even
be
a
potential
Revenue
source
that
we
could.
Like
your
thing,
that's
what
I
was
going
to
ask
and
then
a
new
ARF
station
that
would
be
able
to
house
like
we
were
trying
to
get
an
additional
ARF
truck
so
that
we
could.
D
There.
You
go
aircraft
rescue
firefighting
station
next
is
the
Bono
tent
roof
replacement?
That
is.
We
just
have
that
in
there
we
had.
Actually
Daniel
was
working
with
the
shade
structure
company,
and
they
said
you
know
this
this
around
10
years
from
now.
You
guys
are
going
to
be
needing
to
replace
this
tent
so
that
we
just
put
it
in
there
demo,
the
dilapidated
hangers
and
buildings
there's
three
of
them.
D
The
Bono
flooring
resurfaced
the
exterior
concrete
floor,
I,
don't
know
if
y'all
have
seen
it,
but
it
definitely
needs
it
and
then
a
new
fire
alarm
system
in
the
main
terminal
minus
the
ticketing
Wing,
because
once
we
just
did
that
renovation,
we
added
a
new
one
in
there.
So
the
remaining
part
of
the
terminal,
updating
that
and
then
inside
of
the
Bono
terminal
and
the
regional
Concourse
terminal,
and
then
lastly,
is
the
paint
striping
truck.
So
that
could
be
just
for
all
of
our
airport
needs.
D
D
Why
I
don't
really
think
a
50
million
dollar
expenditure
from
for
an
intermodal,
whatever
it
is,
is
going
to
create
much
benefit
or
have
much
use.
I
mean
well
just
where
I'd
like
to
see
the
analysis
to
justify
it,
rather
than
just
being
an
opinion
and
a
huge
number.
There
are
a
lot
of
the
grants
coming
from
the
state
and
from
the
federal
government
are
are
part,
I
mean
are
looking
at
this
issue
because
it's
becoming
a
big
deal
and
so
well,
you
might
be
right.
D
I
think
what
it
does
is
that,
if
you're
being
ranked
on
a
list
of
one,
you
know
discretionary
funding
for
the
United
States
government
in
year,
one
to
35.
You
might
go
up
more
if
you
have
plans
for
it
as
opposed
to
going
down.
That's
I,
don't
know,
for
you
know,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
types
of
grounding
will
you
going
forward
with
that?
D
D
So
you're
right
on
both
points,
commissioner
Miller,
so
the
obviously
the
opportunity
to
supply
additional
Transportation
capacity
for
the
region
and
reduce
carbon
emissions
was
one
component
of
that
at
the
city
level,
but
absolutely
a
lot
of
the
grants
that
we're
seeing
through
the
infrastructure
Bill
are
also
ranking.
Us
you
get
ranked
higher
for
receipt
of
those
funds
based
on
some
of
these
elements
like
in
Intermodal
Transportation
facility,
and
things
like
that.
D
D
And
it's
based
on
the
current
rail
service
to
Palm
Springs.
It
seems
like
it's
not
a
terribly
high
priority
for
Amtrak
to
be
getting
us.
Trains
passing
through
here,
so
I
think
we're
kind
of
stuck
between
a
rock
and
hard
place
unless
we
can
somehow
get
them
to
change
their
minds.
I
mean
we
have
arrivals
and
departures
from
Palm
Springs
train
station
at
like
2
A.M
on
Thursday
and
Sunday
I
I
think
it's
a
broader
to
Scott's
Point
you're
right
when
it
comes
to
traditional
Transit,
but
I.
D
Think
if
we
step
back
and
just
say,
can
I
get
to
the
airport
conveniently
without
a
car,
I
think
that's
where
we
could
be
looking
at
Intermodal.
So
it's
not
a
lot
of
brick
and
mortar.
It's
are
there
ways
to
get
to
the
airport
or
to
wherever
I'm
staying
conveniently
safely
that
doesn't
require
Light,
Rail
or
rail,
because
we're
not
going
to
have
those
I
agree
but
would
include
sunline
or
the
equivalent
of
sunline
or
even
a
private
carrier
like
a
charter
bus,
so
I
agree.
D
D
Thank
you,
I
was
looking
at
the
section
about
the
covered,
solar,
public
parking
and
I
know
it's
good
for
comfort.
You
know
for
customer
Comfort,
but
for
the
5
million
I
want
to
ask
the
question
of.
Does
it
in?
Does
this
impact
ability
to
get
grants
that
we're
doing
something?
Solar
or
not
I
mean
like
a
trade
trade?
D
It
does
not.
It
does
not.
It
does
not.
Okay,
I
had
to
think
through
that.
No
thank
you
a
follow-on
to
that.
Have
we
done
any
studies
that
lead
us
to
believe
that
if
we
did
the
right
solar
we
could
be,
we
could
provide
free,
EV
charging
because
it
wouldn't
cost
us
anything
or
we
could
run
drop
our
SoCal
bill
by
20.
Is
there
any
feeling
that
way
over
the
next
five
ten?
We
haven't
done
studies.
That
is
something
that
we
are
working
on.
Part
of
so
part
of
our
investment.
D
D
Certainly,
but
it's
not
been
done
in
the
past,
and
would
that
also,
hopefully
include
you-
know,
power
storage
so
that
at
night
you'd
have
a
power
bank
around
the
airport
that
could
run
the
airport
in
the
event
of
an
emergency
or
a
brown
out,
because
SoCal
dropped
the
ball
yeah.
Ideally,
we
would
plan
for
anything
that
would
help
us
make
us
more
sustainable,
fair
enough
and
then
I'm
curious.
Maybe
this
is
for
Ramon.
We
live
in
a
really
hot
place.
D
D
D
So,
let's
just
proceed
and
then
we'll
ask
you
to
do
this
exercise
after
we've
done
Harry's
piece
here,
so
this
is
taking
us
10
to
20
years
all
right.
So
if
we
look
further
out,
it's
really
really
hard
for
the
airport
to
plan
for
the
eventualities
Beyond
10
years
other
than
those
things
that
we
know
are
going
to
take
10
years
to
build.
D
You
all
may
notice
that
the
grass
is
starting
to
Brown
around
the
airport.
Part
of
that
is
due
to
water
conservation
and
we
think
it'd
be
in
our
interest
to
move
to
something
a
little
more
sustainable
noise
mitigation
that
could
come
in
the
form
of
some
type
of
wall
or
barrier
that
could
come
in
the
form
of
potential
grants
for
certain
housing
elements
just
depending
on
where
they
are
relative
to
the
Airfield
or
things
that
we
can
do
on
the
airport
property,
to
reduce
noise
impacts
to
the
community
focus
on
Innovation
and
Technology.
D
Certainly,
I
can't
forecast
what
is
going
to
happen
in
terms
of
disruptive
Technologies,
but
we
certainly
want
to
start
incorporating
that
a
little
more
into
the
airport
campus
as
we
go
year
over
year
and
that'll
include
some
land
side,
wayfinding
improvements
which
may
be
digital
signage,
one
of
the
particular
challenges.
I,
don't
know.
If
you
all
know
this
is
as
Airlines
enter
the
market
and
leave
the
market,
we
have
to
go
and
reprint
a
sign.
Every
time
that
happens
takes
a
couple
weeks.
D
Again,
it's
one
of
those
where
you
know
compliance
codes,
change
constantly
and
as
they
adapt.
We
adapt
so
we'll
try
and
incorporate
that
over
time
and
then
within
the
terminal,
improvements
to
sustainability
and
Industry,
which
could
in
Energy
Efficiency,
which
could
include
some
kind
of
Industrial
Park,
which
incorporates
those
interests
new
on
here
is
verterport
and
I
know
that's
going
to
cause
some
controversy
and
some
comments,
but
the
vertaports
are
coming,
there's
in
the
Europe,
widely
in
Europe
now
and
starting
to
be
adopted
in
the
United
States.
D
So
that's
something
that
we
should
at
least
have
on
our
radar
as
we
enter
the
master
plan
process
to
figure
out.
If
that's
something
that
we
want
to
adopt
here
locally
and
then,
of
course,
back
to
the
replacement
of
infrastructure
within
the
terminal.
Our
sewer
and
water
systems
are
lab
waste,
dump
sites
they're,
all
very,
very
old,
so
those
things
are
going
to
have
to
be
replaced,
and
probably
sooner
rather
than
10
years
out,
but
right
now
our
focus
is
on
safety,
safety
improvements.
D
Foreign,
would
you
mind
just
explaining
the
vertaport
concept,
vertaports
otherwise
known
as
Urban
Air
Mobility
is
another
way
to
extend
the
transportation
Network.
So,
instead
of
using
an
airplane
to
fly
down
the
block,
you
would
essentially
use
an
airplane
to
fly
down
the
block,
but
not
an
airplane
more
like
a
drone
in
a
sense
that
can
accommodate
people.
D
D
But
maybe
Daniel
can
speak
to
the
helicopter
thing,
because
that's
news
to
me:
I
hadn't
heard
that
I
have
not
heard
anything
about
helicopter
service
into
La.
I
know
we
do
get
requests
for
more
service
into
La
as
far
as
like
air,
like
airplanes,
but
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
an
air
helicopter.
At
least.
D
I
was
just
gonna
say:
a
vertaport
is
for
electric
aircraft,
so
the
new
buzzword
is
Advanced,
Air
mobility,
aam,
and
so
it's
basically
battery
powered,
eventually
autonomous,
but
none
of
us
are
going
to
find
those
that
hold
five
to
six
people,
air
taxis
that
go
up
to
about
150
miles,
and
so
they
charge
here.
There's
a
whole
FAA
group,
that's
doing
the
design
and
you
would
then
get
in
these
and
you
would
go
to
La.
D
It's
like
perfect
for
an
LA
flight
back
and
forth
20
minutes
or
down
to
the
Salton
Sea.
So
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
it.
Everybody
is
spending
a
ton
of
money
on
it,
you'll
see
American
and
United.
Every
major
carrier
is
buying
into
it
and
buying
prototypes
and
whatnot.
The
challenge
is
to
to
make
it
viable
financially
right.
D
The
idea
is
it's
a
fifty
dollar
flight,
so
if
it
takes
50
bucks
to
go
from
SFO
downtown
it'll
take
50
bucks
to
go
to
downtown
L.A,
Union
Station
or
to
LAX
to
catch
a
flight.
So
everybody
says
within
three
to
five
years:
there'll
be
prototypes
and
you'll
be
able
to
get
in
one.
If
you're
brave
and
it's
something
we
should
monitor
and
I
think
there's
opportunity
from
the
standpoint
of
training
Pilots,
because
it'll
be
a
while
before
it's
autonomous
and
non-manned,
but
certainly
maintaining
them.
D
I
mean
that
would
be
a
really
nice
high
skilled
job
to
have
in
Palm
Springs,
for
people
to
to
train
and
do
well-
and
you
know
I'd
say
at
least
the
design
of
the
vertebrates.
So
the
fa
just
released
the
voter
Port
design
standard
I.
Think
two
days
ago
there
are
a
number
of
states,
Florida
Illinois,
Idaho,
California,
Northern
California,
which
are
already
starting
to
work
on
these
projects.
D
You
know
and
and
I
mean
moving
a
lot
of
cargo
into
those
areas
and
then
having
you
know
their
cargo
then
shipped
within
that
jurisdiction.
So
I
think
that's
definitely
something
that
we
should
definitely
planning,
because
I
think
they
put
in
they're
putting
in
with
other
retailers
a
billion
dollars
into
just
the
concepts
of
these
ideas.
Absolutely
and
it's
it's
it's
the
future.
The
first
Amazon
cargo
fertiport
is
just
outside
of
Lodi
up
north
and
they're
testing
now
and
flying
them
into
the
community.
Yeah.
D
Have
you
thought
about
this?
What
do
you
think
are
the
most
important
things
we
should
talk
about
any
reactions
to
this
and
then
we'll
we'll
give
everyone
a
chance
to
give
us
their
feedback
and
then
we'll
wrap
the
meeting
and
head
to
dinner.
So
I
think
we've
gone
through
the
content,
but
I
think
it'd
be
interesting
to
get
your
feedback
just
about
where
this
is
going
and
again,
the
focus
of
that
would
be
for
the
long-term
planning
process.
D
D
D
D
Our
next
step
is
to
go
into
long-term
planning,
so
I
think
that
either
your
observations,
your
comments,
suggestions,
I'm,
going
to
scribe
this
we'll
just
let
us
know
what
you
think
and
I'll
start
a
couple
observations
one.
It's
really
obvious
that
the
airport,
the
airlines
have
so
much
control
over
what
happens
here
in
the
capital
budget.
D
So
moving
to
this
hybrid
piece
that
you
discussed
today
seems
to
me
to
be
a
a
real
priority.
If
we're
going
to
have
the
flexibility
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
here,
because
I
don't
I'm
not
privy
to
all
the
specific
examples
of
how
the
airlines
have
negotiated
or
not
or
what
they
say
yes
to
or
not
to,
but
it
just
seems,
like
you
know,
we're
having
enormous
success
and
huge
growth
in
traffic.
My
expectation
was
we're
sitting
on
a
pile
of
money,
let's
start
investing
in
this
airport
and
then
only
to
hear
that.
D
Well,
we
have
a
whole
other
group
of
decision
makers
who
can
just
take
all
the
money
back
and
there's
a
lot
of
stuff.
We
need
to
do
at
this
airport,
so
that
was
a
I
guess.
I
knew
that,
but
I
didn't
realize
how
significant
an
impact
it
has
so
renegotiating
that
relationship
seems
to
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
D
D
There's
a
lot
of
infrastructure
like
Investments
that
you
know
many
of
them
required,
but
you
know
I
just
didn't
hear
enough
about
what
are
we
going
to
do
to
really
Dazzle
investments
will
make
the
really
Dazzle
the
customer
experience
here
besides
the
while
that
people
get
when
they
walk
off
the
plane
and
they
see
the
weather
and
they
see
the
sky
and
they
see
the
mountains
you
know.
Are
we
doing
enough
to
think
about
how
we're
going
to
have
a
state-of-the-art
customer
experience
moving
forward
forward?
D
How
do
we
invest
in
that
and
then
I
also
think
I
Come
Away,
with
a
greater
appreciation
for
the
importance
of
building
out
your
staff
infrastructure?
You
know
when
you
look
at
just
the
handful
of
managers
here
who
are
required
to
do
all
of
these
things,
I'm
kind
of
humbled
by
the
fact
that
we
really
need
a
lot
more
people.
If
you're
going
to
accomplish
a
lot
of
these
things
so
again
we're
having
a
lot
of
success.
D
D
D
In
a
perfect
world,
if
everything
were
to
go
smoothly,
that
timeline
would
happen
by
the
end
of
this
calendar
year
with
implementation
for
the
fiscal
year
beginning
next
year,
so
July
1st
of
next
year.
That's
in
a
perfect
world
beyond
that,
I
can't
really
speak
much
to
it
and
do
you
have
I
assume
that
requires
some
array
of
consultants
and
others
who
help
manage
that
negotiation
process.
D
I
mean
it's
a
fairly
complex
business
transaction
I
would
imagine,
and
do
we
have
that
group
of
Consultants
on
board
and
engaged
at
this
point
we
do
so
they've
been
assisting
us
actually
partnering
with
us,
the
entire
negotiation
on
that.
So
a
lot
of
those
things
are
fundamentally
already
in
place.
It's
just
the
business
deal
that
we're
trying
to
square
away
now.
D
But
yeah
so
so
I
agree
on
the
customer
experience
piece.
I
was
trying
to
do
that
in
my
head,
as
I
was
prioritizing
keeping
in
mind
that
a
lot
of
what
we
need
to
do
is
actually
kind
of
like
we
used
to
call
table
Stakes
things
we
need
to
have,
for
you
know
the
airport
to
you,
know,
operate
safely
and
for
planes
to
land
and
protect.
D
I
think
that's
that's
it
move
on
I
took
I,
took
a
30,
000
foot
kind
of
view
on
the
day,
and
it
it
frankly.
It
underscored
to
me
that
this
commission
and
the
staff
are
not
terribly
far
off
in
the
things
that
we
find
important
to
us.
So
I
was
pleased
to
see
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
had
already
talked
about
are
incorporated
into
the
master
plan.
I
found
the
hybrid
model
something
new
today.
D
D
D
I
was
just
really
happy
coming
in,
because
I
thought
it
would
be
a
good
experience,
but
I
never
imagined
how
much
would
be
covered
and
how
how
much,
how
well
it
was
explained,
I
think
different
about
the
priorities.
I
originally
chose.
I
didn't
choose
different
priorities,
but
I
felt
differently
and
I
felt
how
they
could
impact
other
issues
further
along.
You
know
and
that
the
connection
was
good
good
for
me.
D
D
Yes,
I
get
a
little
nervous
here,
just
saying
all
this,
because
it
was
very
overwhelming
I
think
when
I
look
at
it,
I
I
don't
want
to
Discount
safety,
but
I
think
that
safety,
I
I,
think
is
just
part
of
the
whole
picture.
So
I
don't
even
divide
it
up,
because
so
much
is
legislated
and
I
just
feel
it's
an
automatic.
But
there
are
some
things
here
that
might
have
been
overlooked
if
I
didn't
hear
the
background
and
how
they
impacted
things.
Yes,.
D
I'm
gonna
quickly,
I,
agree,
I,
think
we
we
should
definitely
go
to
the
hybrid
I.
Would
you
know,
would
love
to
go
to
a
compensatory
because
I
think
you
have
a
lot
more
control
over
your
life
and
your
destiny
with
that,
but
I
think
Harry's
being
the
smart
is
making
the
smart
move
in
going
halfway
there
and
who
knows
10
years
down
the
road?
Oh,
what
would
happen,
but
my
experience
has
been
in
compensatory
places
and
there's
a
lot
more
control,
but
I
appreciate
the
discussion,
because
I
think
that's
really
important.
D
D
We
need
to
move
into
the
future
as
an
airport.
One
of
the
comments
that
I've
heard
a
lot
is
that
my
gosh
they're
doing
it
so
old-fashioned
these
days
and
so
and
while
that's
a
struggle
for
some
of
us
old
people
like
me,
you
know
I
think
we
really
do
need
to
look
at
Innovation.
We
need
to
look
at
technology,
we
need
to
look
at
Automation
and
many
of
the
things
that
you
guys
are
doing,
because
that
is
the
future
and
we
can't
be
blindsided
by
it.
D
We
need
to
keep
our
eyes
open
so
that
we
can
build
the
things
we
need
to
into
the
things
that
we're
going
to
be
building
technology
and
infrastructure
wise.
The
I
think
the
airport
needs
to
become
from
all
the
discussions
we've
had
today,
more
involved
in
the
community,
but
in
a
number
of
different
aspects.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
Transportation.
We
need
to
talk
about
local
businesses.
We
need
to
talk
about
even
the
small
things
like
Community
rooms,
School
tours
with
children.
D
You
know
and
things
of
that
nature,
art
so
I
think
we
definitely
need
to
be
more
a
part
of
the
community
and
and
bringing
in
those
aspects
into
the
airport.
I
don't
want
the
airport
to
be
on
this.
You
know
high
hill
and
the
rest
of
the
community
down
at
the
bottom,
I'd
like
to
see
us
all
integrated
so
that
we
reflect
the
community
I.
Think
that's
really
important.
D
And
that's
taking
place
now:
I,
don't
know
you,
everyone
says
you
know,
and
it
could
very
well
be
that
December
we
have
a
completely
different
council
with
a
completely
different
set
of
ideas
and
priorities.
But
my
concern
is
that
we
need
to
be
as
a
commission.
We
need
to
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
well,
we
may
want
to
go
in
this
direction.
City
council
priorities
may
want
us
to
go
in
this
direction
and
so
I
I
would
rather
I
would
like
to
have
it
married.
D
So
we
have
the
ability
to
talk
the
city
council
into
this
direction
and
I.
Don't
think.
We've
had
that
possibilities
to
do
that.
I'm
sure
we've
all
had
one-on-one
conversations
with
the
city
council,
but
I
would
like
to
see
getting
some
sort
of
formal
way
that
we
can
move
as
a
commission
to
convince
the
city
council.
This
is
good,
or
this
is
bad
or
whatever
and
I
was
hoping.
The
liaison
idea
would
be
what
we're
doing,
but
it
sounds
like
it's
dead
now
and
or
that's
not
what's
happening
I.
That's
not
the
case.
D
D
D
D
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
putting
all
this
together.
Staff
is
working
hard,
give
them
a
hard
time
a
lot,
and
you
know,
but
thank
you
very
much.
So
thanks
God
appreciate
that
girl,
I
guess
what
it
taught
me.
The
most
awareness
today
was
the
emphasis
to
have
a
master
plan
so
that
we
just
don't
have
sort
of
a
hot
hodgepodge
approach
to
our
development
growth.
We've
seen
it
too
many
times,
we've
all
traveled
in
airports
we're
walking
through.
Basically,
they
look
like
shipping
containers
for
temporary
structures.
D
So
it's
a
nice,
but
it's
tough
to
plan
for
variabilities
in
the
market,
growth,
flexible
designs,
all
those
elements
that
are
critical
to
a
master
plan,
but
at
least
with
a
master
plan.
You
have
a
turnover
of
politicians.
You
have
a
turnover
of
council
members,
you
have
a
turnover
of
Staff,
but
if
we
have
sort
of
a
very
cohesive
master
plan,
it
helps
to
put
everyone
sort
of
on
the
same
path.
D
D
I
agree
with
you
with
what
you
said:
we
should
do
I,
don't
think
this
should
take
much
longer
to
do
again.
The
last
time
we
did
this
I
think
it
was
in
2015.
That's
too
long.
I
think
it
should
be
at
least
once
a
year
around
budget
time
to
at
least
talk
about
The
Five-Year
Plan.
What
did
we
do
and
what
did
we
not
do?
D
So
with
you,
marketing
and
you're,
working
with
white
I
think
putting
together
that
and
keep
doing
what
you're
doing
we
can
come
up
with
a
customer
experience.
I'm
done,
Kevin,
hi,
everyone,
yeah
I,
think
everyone's
comments
so
far
has
has
been
very
much
spot
on
I
guess
the
one
thing
that
I'm
still
having
a
little
trouble
with
is
I'm
finding
that
I,
don't
think
I
have
a
clear
vision
of
what
our
airport
is
going
to
look
like
in
2042
and
I
I.
D
D
So,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
Harry
and
his
staff
for
doing
such
a
tremendous
job.
I
refer
to
them
as
like
Thomas,
the
Train
is
The
Little
Engine
That
good.
They
do
quite
a
lot
with
with
the
resources
that
they
have
and
it's
commendable
to
really
see
the
output
that
they
do.
I
look
at
the
airport
as
the
economic
engine
for
the
Coachella
Valley
and
that
truly
drives
tourism.
That's
here
so
I
represent
the
city
of
Indian
Wells.
D
The
city
of
Indian
Wells
gets
about
70
percent
of
the
revenue
for
the
city,
from
tourism,
from
the
hotel
dollars
and
the
taxes
the
occupancy
tax.
So
the
airport
does
play
a
vital
role
for
the
city
as
well
as
for
other
cities.
Here,
I
think
that
we're
going
to
get
the
growth,
that's
anticipated
a
lot
sooner
than
we
think.
If
you
look
at
what
Disney's
building
there's
a
thousand
new
new
units
going
up
over
there.
D
I'm
glad
that
we're
doing
this
strategic
session,
like
Jan,
said
it's,
it's
been
a
while
I
think
we
should
really
start
to
think
significantly
more
strategic
than
we
have
been.
It's
sad
to
hear
that
the
property
that
we
were
looking
for,
Conrad
is
gone.
I
personally,
think
that
you
know
other
than
eminent
domain
I,
don't
think,
there's
another
way,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
get
that
property
or
like
when
I
was
speaking
with
commissioner
Payne.
D
D
I
know
that
Harry
mentioned
that
there's
some
additional
tribal
land
available
and
I
forgot
the
name
of
the
street,
but
it's
on
the
other
side,
where
the
museum
is
but
I
think
that's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
con
to
start
exploring
Now
versus
at
a
later
date.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
property
available
around
the
airport,
but
we
it's
better
to
purchase
it
now,
look
at
it
now
than
when
all
this
growth
is
continuing
and
everything
starts
to
hockey.
D
Stick
upward
I
also
am
a
little
bit
actually
surprised
that
the
we're
getting
such
pushback
from
the
Palm
Springs
city
council.
With
regard
to
having
a
liaison
on
this
commission
I,
look
at
the
airport
really
as
the
crown
jewel
in
the
crown
of
Palm
Springs.
We
are
such
a
huge
asset
for
the
city
and
for
them
to
or
as
I
think,
aftab
referred
to
it
as
the
10
000
pound
gorilla.
It's
not.
D
D
A
lot
of
the
Commissioners
here
have
significant
knowledge
with
airport
operations
and
other
backgrounds
that
they
bring
to
here
and
I
hope
that
the
airport
staff
takes
advantage
of
the
the
hindsight
that
they
have
and
the
skill
sets
that
they
have,
because,
if
they'd
have
to
pay
for
it
out
on
the
streets,
they
couldn't
afford
it
I'm
not
talking
about
myself
talking
about
other
people,
you
know
so,
but
thank
you
again.
Thank
you.
Paul
John
I
also
agree
with
everything.
D
That's
been
said
already
and
think
it's
been
a
really
really
good
meeting
I
would
my
observations,
I
would
revisit
your
consultants
and
I
would
go
surprisingly.
Full
bore,
compensate,
compensatory
and
just
say
this
is
what
we
need
to
go,
and
this
is
why
we
need
to
do
it
to
have
the
control
we
need.
So
I
would
ask
to
revisit
that.
That'd
be
my
two
cents
on
that,
because
it's
I,
like
Scott
I,
usually
work
in
compensatory
airports
and
what
you
get.
D
D
The
I
was
surprised
and
would
again
ask
for
a
second
consideration
around
the
landlord
versus
operator
orientation.
The
things
that
we
want
to
do
the
customer
experience
that
Kevin
talked
about
and
others
have
mentioned.
You
get
because
you're
a
good
operator
so
think
Disney
as
opposed
to
Cushman
in
Wakefield
right.
So.
D
D
I
think
it
comes
down
to
people
and
it's
always
really
good
people,
and
this
has
been
an
excellent
session,
so
kudos
to
Kevin
and
team
and
Ken
Harry
to
your
team,
Victoria,
Ramon
and
Daniel
everybody
that
put
this
together
so
kudos
to
you.
It's
been
a
really
really
good
session,
but
you
never
have
enough
people
right
and
so
I
think
it
comes
back
to
things
we've
talked
about
in
the
past,
which
is
what's
the
core
competency
over
the
next
5
10
15
20
years.
What
kind
of
team
do
you
want
to
build?
D
What
are
the
expertise?
And
then
what
do
you
want
to
Outsource?
Because
for
whatever
reason
you
don't
do
it
every
day
right,
so
a
thought
process
around?
What
do
I
want
to
bring
in
and
then
who
are
the
best
people
I
can
bring
in
and
then
what
skills
do
I
want
to
have
on
my
team
to
be
able
to
maintain
altitude
would
be
something
that
would
be
helpful
and
then
love
the
meeting
first
face-to-face
meeting.
D
So
I'd
love
to
do
this
every
month
at
least
once
a
quarter,
because
I
think
we
got
a
tremendous
amount
done.
I
was
not
Escape
did
not
Escape
me
that
we
had
till
8
o'clock
tonight
and
it's
last
time.
I
checked
it's
not
even
five
459.,
so
we
get
I,
think
so
much
more
done,
and
it
is
so
much
more
effective
for
face
to
face
so
kudos
to
everybody
that
put
this
together
and
would
love
to
do
more
of
it.
So
thank
you
great
great
David.
D
D
Okay,
I
believe
we
have
no
comments
from
other
Commissioners
on
Zoom
tonight.
David,
okay,
yeah
I'd
like
to
offer
some
observations
about
the
city
council
and
the
liaison
and
all
of
those
matters
and
and
give
some
history
that
maybe
people
around
here
around
this
table,
don't
aren't
familiar
with
at
about
the
time
of
the
transition
from
David,
ready
to
Justin
Clifton,
some
somewhere
in
that
zone.
D
You
know,
press
conferences
and
putting
you
know
going
out
into
the
press
and
and
putting
you
know,
information
out
there
that
had
not
actually
been
as
I
understand
it
vetted
by
the
city
council,
and
so
there
was
this
dissonance
in
there
and
then
Justin
arrived
and
I.
Think
part
of
what
the
council
said
to
him
was.
You
know
we
gotta
fix
this,
because
we
have
these
commissions
out
there
and
they're,
not
following
their
advisory
roles.
D
Etc
and
I
think
in
parallel
to
that
we
had
a
city
manager
and
I'm
talking
about
Justin
ex-city
manager,
who
that
was
like
music
to
his
his
ears,
because
this
is
all
my
opinion.
He
was
a
guy
who
thought
that
commissions
and
Community
input
and
people
who
were
organizations
and
people
who
were
trying
to
Foster
dialogue
with
City
staff
and
and
Executives
and
sort
of
different
forms
or
a
pain
in
the
neck,
and
his
his
Mo
was
to
sort
of
clamp
down
on
all
of
that
stuff.
D
But
this
commission,
as
far
as
I,
know
from
the
conversations
with
several
council
members,
where
it
was
never
the
object
of
of
that,
and
so
when
a
couple
of
members
of
the
commission
here
say
like
well,
the
council
really
wanted
to
clamp
down.
They
see
this
either
I'm.
Sorry,
you
know
call
this
a
white
elephant,
the
airport
or
weren't,
really
interested
in
us
I
think
we
were
kind
of
the
unintended
well.
D
It
may
have
been
intended,
but
unfortunate
victims
of
the
sludge
moving
down
down
river
on
these
other
matters,
and
there
was
a
city
manager
who
didn't
want
us
to
have
this
kind
of
Engagement
didn't
want
this,
this
commission
or
any
other
commission
to
have
to
fully
operate
I
mean
the
measure
J
commission,
which
was
created
to
spend
money,
was
kind
of
stymied
and
unable
to
make
recommendations
and,
and
all
of
this
other
stuff.
You
can
talk
to
some
members
of
that
commission
about
that.
D
So
you
know
fast
forward
that
that
city
manager
is
gone
in
my
opinion,
thankfully,
and
I
think
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
the
kinds
of
great
work
that
we
did
today
and
moving
forward.
We
obviously
value
the
staff
and
I
think
we
can
collaborate.
There
was
nothing
but
product.
In
my
opinion,
productive
collaborative
kinds
of
conversations
today
and
I
think
when
the
new
council
is
constituted.
D
We
as
a
group-
and
maybe
some
of
us
as
individuals,
talk
to
council
members
about
sort
of
the
the
type
of
engagement
that
we
believe
this
commission
needs
to
have
with
the
the
staff
and
with
the
with
the
council.
Moving
forward,
we
are
over,
we
are
advisory,
but
we
are
also
playing
an
oversight:
roll
over
an
Enterprise
fund.
D
As
you
pointed
out
on
the
call
last
week,
it's
different
than
kind
of
the
others
than
many
of
the
other
commissions,
and
many
of
the
other
commissions
have
unique
aspects
about
them,
and
it's
up
to
the
council
and
the
new
city
manager
to
figure
out
how
those
should
operate
optimally.
But
not
all
commissions,
are
the
same.
We
are
an
economic
driver
of
for
our
community
here
and
for
our
region
and
so
I.
Don't
think
we
should
sort
of
sit
here
and
feel
like
we
have
a
city
council
that
doesn't
care
about
us.
D
I
think
we
should
sit
here.
Look
back
and
say
there
were
these
Confluence
of
circumstances.
There
was
a
city
manager
who
wanted
to
squelch
the
work
of
this
of
this
commission
and
for
the
most
part
he
succeeded,
but
he
is
now
gone
and
it's
a
new
beginning.
We
have
new
Council
coming
on
board
and
I
think
we
need
to
take
the
steps
we
need
to
take
in
order
to
create
the
future
commission,
slash
city,
council,
city
manager
and
Airport
staff
that
that
we
think
is
best
and
then
they
will.
D
You
know
on
this
commission
and
that
we
intend
to
put
forward
the
case
that
we
can
make
a
very
important
contribution
to
the
Future
economic
viability
of
this
city
and
the
region.
That's
my
take
on
what
we've
been
through
and
where
we
can
go
I'd
like
to
build
on
that
and
just
to
summarize.
Firstly
one
point
and
then
I
went
back
to
where
you
are.
You
know
the
concept
of
design
and
art
was
a
low
priority
in
all
the
different
windows
we
looked
at
and
I.
D
I
think
we
need
to
to
as
we
make
the
decisions,
pay
attention
to
design
and
art
and
how
the
place
looks
and
we're
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
community,
and
you
know
Daniel's
going
to
encounter
this
tomorrow
in
a
couple
weeks
in
his
meetings
around
it.
Just
the
passion
our
community
has
for
how
the
thing
looks,
respecting
the
architecture
that
type
of
thing
I
was
walking
through
baggage
or
check-in
area
the
other
day
and
I
just
thought.
This
is
boring
as
hell.
There's
no
color
on
the
walls.
D
I,
don't
know
why
that
is
and
we'll
talk
about
that.
Another
meeting,
but
I
was
thinking
with
all
the
feedback
we've
been
getting
around
the
design
and
potential
logos
and
whatever
we
have
to
remember
that
that's
important.
We
live
in
a
community
that
really,
you
know,
respects
art
and
is
passionate
about
it.
So
let's
not
keep
that
off
the
list.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
got
on
our
list
so
to
build
on
both
your
points
about
what
what
happens?
D
Next,
I,
don't
see
the
city
council,
whoever
wins
going
in
a
different
direction
than
what
we've
talked
about
today.
I
think
that
if
we
take
the
discussion
we
had
for
today
and
we
build
an
effective
long-term
plan,
that's
bold
and
it's
really
really
assertive
and
aggressive,
and
it's
built
around
a
vision
that
includes
great
customer
experiences.
D
I
think
if
anything,
we're
going
to
be
educating
the
city
council
about
what's
possible
and
I,
think
they're
going
to
be
excited
to
follow
us
and
I
think
that
the
ideas
and
the
expertise
and
our
ability
to
help
you
guys
to
build
this
plan
with
the
consultants
and
continue
to
involve
be
involved
in
a
constructive
way.
I
think
the
city
council
is
going
to
be
very,
very
thankful
that
we've
done
this
work.
We've
committed
this
time
as
Citizens
to
do
all
this,
so
I'm
not
worried
about
in
them.
Telling
us
we're
going
right
or
wrong.
D
I
think
we're
going
to
do
the
work
and
we're
going
to
lead
in
this
way
and
I
think
they're
going
to
be.
They
will
benefit
from
it.
I
think
they'll
be
excited
for
it
at
least
that's
my
hope
and
and
we'll
make
connections
as
soon
as
they're
elected
and
we'll
start
to
involve
them
and
educate
them.
Just
as
we've
done
with
each
other
today,
so
that's
the
goal.
D
It's
all
focused
now
on
the
long-term
plan
and
let's
make
this
stuff
happen
and
make
sure
that
it
comes
alive
and
we'll
commit
to
continue
to
support
you
and
the
staff
in
trying
to
make
this
happen,
and
the
city
council
will
be
happy
we're
all
here.
So
that's
where
I
think
we
go
so
I
want
to
thank
Harry
thanks
for
trusting
us.
I
know
that
this
was
a
process
for
all
of
us
to
try
to
get
in
this
room
and
get
this
done.
Thank
you
to
all
of
you
who
have
been
asking
for
this.
D
For
eight
months
we
tried
and
tried
try,
but
now
we're
here,
and
especially
thanks
to
the
staff
you
are
overwhelmed
with
work
and
in
all
sorts
of
responsibilities
and
I
know
this
was
not
easy
to
put
together
and
to
execute,
but
I
think
we
all
see
the
benefit
of
getting
on
the
same
page
being
smart,
together
and
I.
Think
we
come
away
with
a
lot
more
appreciation
for
a
hard
and
difficult.
This
is
but
also
what
the
opportunity
is
here.
D
We
have
a
fabulous
City
in
this
airport
could
continue
to
add
all
sorts
of
stuff
and
I
think
of
a
much
better
positioned
this
afternoon
to
help
you
make
that
happen.
So
thank
you
all
thanks.
Everybody
and
I
think
we
need
a
proposal
to
end
this
meeting.
We
don't
so
moved
so
moved.
Do
I
have
a
second
second
done
and
Christina.
Oh,
my
God
Christina
you'll
be
we're
we're
going
next
door
to
meet
with
Christina
for
dinner,
but
Christina.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this.
Thank
you.