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A
B
How
many
more
break-ins
are
we
going
to
have
to
tolerate?
So
you
know
I
don't
know,
maybe
there's
a
possibility.
We
know
that
the
entire
wash
cannot
be
chained
off
or
fenced
off,
but
perhaps
the
area
under
the
bridge,
maybe
that
could
be
chained
off
because
that's
the
desirable
place
for
those
people
to
be
well.
A
A
We
drove
two
hours
to
get
to
the
property.
We
met
the
officer,
god
lover
for
waiting
to
keep
our
house
safe.
Had
she
said
I
have
another
call
I
have
to
go,
we
would
have
been
screwed,
any
of
them
would
have
walked
into
our
home.
Okay.
I
guess
once
my
alarm
is
triggered
once
I
guess
it's
triggered,
but
our
neighbor
said
11,
10
or
11
the
next
morning.
They
saw
another
homeless
person
that
looked
like
they
were
casing
our
home
in
our
backyard,
picking
our
fruit.
Okay,
now
I
can
build
a
12-foot
fence.
A
B
And
they're
becoming
more
emboldened
they're
becoming
more
emboldened
to
do
what
they
want
to
do.
E
Mike
I'd
like
to
just
I'm
the
my
name's
mark,
krauss,
I'm
the
general
manager
for
desert
water
agency,
we're
our
operations
center
is
just
north
of
the
water
park,
and
then
we
have
a
recycled
water
facility,
that's
very
near
the
wash,
and
I
just
want
to
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
sustained
some
damage
in
that
fire
that
was
referred
to.
We
had
a
valve
enclosure.
E
Excuse
me
that
was
damaged
and
caught
on
fire.
We've
sustained
a
lot
of
damage
at
the
agency.
We
have
a
bathroom
that
we
put
out
that
we
built
for.
E
Can
you
hear
me
hello,
yeah,
okay,
so
we
we
had
to.
We
had
someone
break
into
a
bathroom
on
our
operation
center
property.
They
did.
Then
we
created
a
huge
mess.
We
had
to
clean
up
and
we
had
to
fortify
the
door
put
new
locks
on.
E
We
now
have
security
that
we
had
to
hire
to
patrol
at
night,
because
people
camp
out
there
they
leave
lots
of
garbage
that
kind
of
thing.
So
it's
impacting
our
operation.
I
just
wanted
to
to.
Let
you
know
that
and
that
you
know
water
service
is
a
as
a
vital
service
and
they're
they're
attacking
a
utility,
as
well
as
the
residents.
E
G
You
know
I
haven't
been
in
palm
springs
very
long
and
I
love
this
neighborhood.
I
fell
in
love
with
it
very
quickly.
The
neighborhood
is
amazing.
So
so,
when
I
hear
not
just
the
stories
that
are
being
said
right
here,
mail
being
stolen
seems
to
be
very
common
amongst
the
neighborhood
I've
seen
mailboxes
bashed
in
we've.
I
know
people
have
reported
cameras
being
ripped
off
walls,
doorbell
ring
doorbells
being
ripped
off
the
walls.
I
mean
this.
G
It
goes
on
and
on,
and
I
hear
the
fear
and
the
frustration
from
the
neighbors
to
where
people
don't
want
to
walk
around
here
anymore.
Out
of
fear,
I've
heard
neighbors
even
talk
about
moving
it's.
I
know
there's
no
easy
answer,
but
I
want
noted
that
this
this
is
a
huge
issue
in
our
area
and
we
need
to
work
together
to
come
up
with
something
something.
That's
gonna
make
a
difference
for
everyone's
lives
in
this
neighborhood.
C
C
Hold
on
a
second
while
I
scroll
through
them,
we've
got
a
couple
of
suggestions.
One
of
the
suggestions
made
by
dave,
the
wash
after
the
big
rain.
Three
years
ago,
almost
overflowed,
apparently
the
county
cleared
up
the
southwest
cleared
up
the
wash
southwest
of
gene
autry,
the
flood
prevention,
dredging,
not
only
enhanced
flood
control
but
removed
the
camouflage.
C
That's
what
are
the
politics
of
continuing
the
flood
prevention
prevention
measures
northeast
of
geonatory
bid
bridge?
This
kills
two
birds
with
one
stone:
flood
prevention,
which
a
major
flood,
could
reappear
and
remove
the
coverage
the
homeless
live
in,
and
the
flood
water
is
going
to
cascade
northeast
then
hit
the
debris
east
of
the
bridge
and
back
up.
C
So
real
quick,
if
you
do
have
a
question:
if
you
click
at
the
bottom,
you'll
see
participants,
click
on
that
option
and
you
do
have
the
option
of
posing
a
question
there.
F
So
so,
chief
and
to
police
staff,
could
we
talk
about
you
know
just
from
from
a
solutions
perspective
of
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
been
doing
and
what
we
potentially
can
do
in
the
future
and
some
additional
things
like
for
one
in
talking
with
with
mike
mccullough
previously
the
suggestion
as
well,
if
we
had
at
least
no
parking
signs
on
cherry
hill
or
in
other
parts
around
there.
So
that's
one
of
the
ideas,
so
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
I'd
like
some
feedback
from.
F
I
think
it'd
be
helpful
for
us
from
the
neighborhood.
Would
you
welcome
something
like
that?
Ultimately,
we
can
go
there,
but
it's
helpful
if
the
neighborhood
supports
it.
So
there's
those
kinds
of
things
that
may
or
may
not
be
completely
helpful.
Obviously,
but
but
chief
could
could
you
talk
about
what
you
can
do
from
the
police
perspective.
I
Yeah
absolutely
I'll
turn
it
over
to
captain
koloff
shortly
just
so,
he
can
share
in
detail
what
we
have
been
doing
and
the
resources
we've
been
allocating
to
this
area
and
how
frequent,
but
we
also
can
because
the
comments
in
regards
to
the
camouflaging
you
know
the
overgrown
brush.
That
is,
that
is
a
critical
piece.
We
find
that
throughout
our
city
on
vacant
vacant,
lots
or
anywhere
there's
overgrown
brush.
It
makes
it
very
easy
for
the
homeless
to
set
up
camp
and
be
there
for
any
period
of
time.
I
That's
something
we
can
probably
address
in
the
wash
in
in
working
with
our
city
streets,
department
and
and
clearing
that
out.
So
we
will
reach
out
to
stacy
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
get
a
major
cleanup
and
start
cutting
back
on
that
brush
in
the
wash
area.
So
it
makes
them
stand
out
very
visible.
Make
it
more
difficult
for
them
to
set
up
shop
in
the
in
the
wash
but
I'll
turn
it
over
to
captain
koloff.
I
So
he
can
discuss
what
we've
been
doing
so
far
and
then,
as
he
mentioned
earlier,
we're
going
to
really
need
the
participants
to
share
the
times
of
the
day,
the
certain
certain
days
of
the
week
that
you
see
them
more
frequently
than
others.
So
we
can
try
to
narrow
down
times
in
days
and
and
send
some
resources
at
the
during
those
given
times.
D
Yeah,
like
I
said
earlier,
we've
been
we've
been
out
there
frequently
and
we
come
out
there.
You
know
several
times
a
week
with
our
homeless
teams
with
service
providers.
You
know,
as
for
parking
issue,
along
the
curb
line
on
cherry
hills
near
broadmoor.
D
That
would
solve
the
issue
with
the
one
vehicle
that
we're
having
a
problem
with
or
there's
more,
but
ultimately
it's
the
camping
out
in
the
wash
and
and
the
folks
that
are
causing
disturbances
out
there
that
likely
don't
have
cars
so
we'll
continue
the
to
bring
more
of
a
presence
there.
I
understand
you
want
to
see
enforcement,
keeping
in
mind
that
you
know.
D
If
we
make
with
enforcement,
it
might
make
it
less
of
a
desirable
location
if
you're
enforcing
various
different
crimes
there
right
now,
unfortunately,
with
covid,
if
we
arrest
somebody
for
breaking
into
your
home
they're,
going
to
go
to
the
jail
and
they're
going
to
be
released
on
a
citation,
the
only
people
that
are
staying
in
jail
right
now
are
violent
offenses.
So
it's
a
it's
kind
of
a
revolving
door
in
terms
of
enforcement,
people
are
not
staying
in
jail.
D
One
of
the
questions
asked
in
the
chat
was
you
know
what
is
close
patrolling
it's
when
I
set
up
a
close
patrol
or
lieutenant
ariza
sets
up
a
close
patrol
where
we're
going
to
have
officers
dispatched
to
that
area
multiple
times
a
day
to
check
for
activity.
That's
what
we're
dispatching!
It's
just,
not
a
routine
patrol,
and
we
use
the
basically
use
your
information
when
you're
seeing
activity
to
direct
our
resources
towards
it.
That's
why
it's
important
to
report
crime,
because
when
we
have
crime
reported
to
us,
we
use
that
as
a
resource.
D
D
Like
chief
said,
that
would
be
a
decision
made
by
ultimately
by
city
staff,
if
that's
feasible,
to
clear
all
that
brush
out
yeah.
I
understand
what
happened
on
the
other
side
of
the
wash
after
the
flood,
but
I
don't
believe
any
of
that
area
was
city
of
palm
springs
property
where
they
cleaned
that
area
out.
F
H
Yes,
I'm
here,
I
live
on
one
of
the
condos
that
that
are
surrounded
by
the
by
the
golf
course
and
the
problem
that
we're
having
with
the
homeless
is
that
they're
coming
in
and
using
our
spas.
H
We
have
fairly
high
walls
on
them,
but
they're,
jumping
the
walls
and
bathing
in
there
and
we're
finding
trash
and
drug
paraphernalia
having
to
have
it
having
the
spas,
drained
and
clean,
because
the
water's
being
polluted,
because
they're
using
it
as
a
bathroom,
is
this
something
that
we
should
be
reporting.
D
Yes,
very
much
so
obviously
we
need
to
be
aware
of
it,
so
we
can
address
it
because
I
don't
know
which
condo
complex
you
live
in.
We've
had
reports
of
some
issues
and
one
of
the
local
ones
now
near
broadmoor
and
waverly
more
with
a
one
problem
tenant
in
there
we've
been
dealing
with.
But
yes,
we
you
should
report
that
information,
and
but
we
will
need
this.
We
just
can't
arbitrarily
kick
people
out
of
there.
We're
gonna
need
somebody
to
step
up
from
either
the
homeowners
association,
the
management
team
and
say
hey.
D
H
Okay,
thank
you
and
my
other.
My
other
concern
is,
I
know
this
is
nothing
that's
even
anywhere
near
being
definite,
but
talk
about
returning
the
golf
course
to
its
natural
habitat
and
if
we
have
more
natural
habitat
around
our
properties,
this
problem
is
only
going
to
get
worse.
D
If
you're
talking
about
the
golf
course
areas
between
all
the
homes
in
this
neighborhood-
yes
during
that
golf
course,
yes,
I
could.
I
could
see
that
being
an
issue,
because
we'd
have
more
vacant
areas
that
that
aren't
being
golfed
on
and
then
what
other,
what?
What
else
is
it
going
to
be
used
for,
and
it
obviously
would
have
the
potential
to
add
to
this
add
to
the
homeless
issues
in
the
neighborhood.
F
And
I
would
just
note
that
you
know
that
that
has
been
a
discussion
item.
There's
been
absolutely
no
decision
made
there
and
city
council
before
any
decision
would
have
a
significant
number
of
public
meetings
and
hearings
before
they
would
make
a
decision.
So
I
I
didn't
want
to
speak
for
you
on
that
mayor,
but
I
just
want
to
let
everyone
know
that
that
there's
been
no
decision
made
on
that.
Yet.
C
All
right
next
question:
go
back
to
ernest.
G
Yeah,
I
know
that
so
you
talked
about
this
vehicle
that
we've
had
parking
of
this
suspicious
vehicle.
That's
been
parking
around
here.
I
understand,
there's
a
homeless
division.
The
police
work
with
the
homeless
kind
of
reach
out
understand
who's
in
the
city.
Is
that
correct
get
to
know
them.
D
We
have
a
team,
ultimately,
if
everybody's
healthy
of
three
officers
on
the
department
and
two
community
service
officers
that
do
homeless
calls
only
across
the
city.
So
on
any
given
time,
we
should
have
at
least
one
officer
on
duty
with
the
community
service
officer.
I
will
tell
you
this
police
officers
are
not
immune
to
the
coronavirus
and
it
has
impacted
our
staffing.
D
D
You
know
one
point:
we
had
27
members
of
our
department
out
either
quarantined
or
with
covent.
So
there's
the
ebbs
and
flows
of
the
coronavirus,
but
we
have
teams
that
work
out
there
and
that's
who
were
out
there
last
week
and
that's
who
generally
who's
going
to
do
the
enforcement
out
there
between
the
hours
of
6
am
and
6
pm,
it's
going
to
be
those
officers
and
they
have
a
rapport
with
the
homeless.
They
pretty
much
know
the
majority
of
who
they're
dealing
with
and
what
their.
What
they're
about.
G
D
G
D
Yeah
we're
very
well
aware
of
the
vehicle.
The
pictures
of
it
and
the
vehicle
does
not
come
back
to
this
area,
but
we're
very
well
aware
of
the
vehicle.
D
B
Yeah,
it's
not
exactly
a
question,
but
what
I'd
like
to
say
is
that
a
you
know
periodic
drive-by
or
something
is
really
not
going
to
address
anything,
because
you
know
that's
a
very
random
thing.
B
What
can
be
done
that
we
could
establish
something
that
there
would
be?
You
know
with
good
cause,
an
immediate
dispatch
so
that
when
we
see
somebody
that
we
know
that
they're
doing
something,
that's
not
right
and
we
make
a
call.
I
mean
it's
not
necessarily
a
9-1-1
call,
it's
not
like
somebody's
losing
their
life,
but
if
we
see
something
or
we
see
criminal
activity,
you
know
to
get
an
immediate
dispatch
that
somebody's
going
to
be
there.
B
You
know
in
five
minutes
you
know,
then
we
have
a
hope
of
apprehension
of
you
know
people
in
wrongdoing,
but
if
it's
just
that
well,
you
know,
I
think
I
see
them
on
saturday
mornings
or
I
think
I
see
them
on
friday
nights
and
so
okay
well
you're,
going
to
come
by
on
a
friday
night.
I
think
that's
an
utter
waste
of
time.
I
do
not
think
that
that
is
going
to
be
productive
in
the
slightest
form.
B
B
Maybe
availability
can
be
used
productively
to
have
a
dispatch
or
have
a
you
know,
a
certain
a
force
or
whatever.
A
Maybe
I
can
inject
well
we're
both
on
the
same
microphone
here,
the
two
things
I
was
curious
to
know
if
the
police
department
has
found
over
the
course
of
time
areas,
whether
it's
businesses
I'm
going
to
assume
businesses
that
are
well
stocked
with
outdoor
cameras
that
are
not
reachable.
Do
they
find
that
that
attracts
less
of
a
colony
of
activity
than
obviously
areas
that
don't
and
if
that's
the
case,
is
it
possible
to
even
mount
cameras
by
the
wash
that
there
aren't
reachable,
and
would
it
really
impact
these
homeless
because
they're
pretty
brazen?
A
I
heard
from
five
neighbors
around
the
cherry
hill
curve,
the
crazy
wacko
job
that
came
out
screaming
one
night
and
terrified
the
hell
out
of
me.
She
was
going
at
what
two
in
the
morning
she
started.
I
don't
know
she
starts
beating
on
everyone's
doors,
one
house
she
stayed
at
for
quite
a
while
walking
around
beating
every
window.
Let
me
in-
and
you
know
let
me
in
and
they
called
the
police.
I
think
he
said
it
was
over
two
hours.
A
There
was
still
no
response,
and
I
understand
the
police
are
busy
and
that
that
may
not
take
precedence,
but
she
went
down
from
house
to
house
and
I'll
tell
you
what
I
guess,
I'm
just
going
to
risk
it,
but
I'll
invite
her
in
and
beat
the
living
hell
out
of
her.
If
that's
what
it
takes,
because
every
neighbor
was
terrified,
they
were
terrified
yeah,
we're.
A
Mean
I
just
think
good
god
I
heard
five
houses
had
this
happening
at
two
in
the
morning.
She
would
not
stop
so.
My
point
to
that
is
we
got
someone
out
there
because
simply
save
had
the
alarm
going
off
could
not
reach
me
because
my
phone
had
been
turned
off
by
it
inadvertently
the
police
were
automatically
dispatched.
So
do
you
have
to
have
an
alarm
that
you're
going
to
set
off
in
order
to
get
someone
to
come
out?
Is
that
more
effective?
I'm
not
trying
to
burn
your
resources?
A
And
you
know
what
do
you
call
call?
You
know
you
scream
cry
wolf,
but
was
it
the
alarm
in
my
house
that
got
someone
out
there
and
you
know.
C
A
B
D
D
We
have
seen
the
benefit
of
not
having
all
of
our
bars
opening
and
our
drunken
drivers
at
the
end
of
the
night,
but
the
calls
for
service
are
still
there
for
right.
Now
we
have
four
calls
pending
and
we
take
calls
across
the
city
on
a
priority
basis,
where,
if
there's
a
call
that
has
danger
to
it
or
some
sort
of
risk
of
life,
those
are
going
to
get
dispatched
first
and
that's
city
wide
all
94
square
miles
in
the
city
of
palm
springs.
It's
not
like.
D
We
have
a
bunch
of
people
just
on
standby
all
the
time
the
call
volume
one
major
car
accident
can
suck
up
four
police
officers
and
four
calls
in
one
big
accident
with
traffic
control.
So
we
we
address
the
calls
as
they
come
in
and
on
a
priority
basis
based
on
the
information
we
have
in
terms
of
the
the
call
regarding
the
woman
that
was
knocking
on
doors.
D
That
day,
I
don't
know
what
was
going
on
in
terms
of
calls
for
service
or
what
was
going
on,
but
at
any
given
point
we
can
have
a
lot
of
calls
for
service
or
we
can
have
minimal
calls
for
service.
So
it's
not
like
there's
nothing
going
on
in
the
city
because
of
covet
trust
me.
If
you
want
to
come
out
on
a
ride
along
post,
cova
you'll
see
how
busy
we
are.
It
is
very,
very
active.
D
You
would
think
that
there's
no
pandemic
going
on
in
various
parts
of
our
city,
but
we
will
I'll,
like
assure
you
this.
We
will
have
more
resources
in
that
area,
so
I'm
not
going
to.
I
can
assure
you
that
we're
not
going
to
have
a
task
force
for
this
area
to
address
all
of
the
issues
going
on
all
the
time.
D
We
do
not
have
those
resources
available
overall
to
put
a
task
force
together,
we're
going
to
have
to
based
on
what
the
comments
we're
hearing
here,
your
concerns
of,
what's
going
on
in
the
neighborhood,
we're
going
to
obviously
have
to
put
more
resources
in
that
neighborhood.
That's
clear!
That's
very
clear!.
D
I
Like
to
add
a
few
more
comments,
following
up
on
captain
kovalov,
you
had
made
mention
regarding
the
diff
if
it
makes
a
difference
with
with
cameras
on
the
building
etc.
It
really
doesn't
it's
going
to
take
a
consistent
effort
with
our
officers
being
out
there
making
contact
with
them.
We
we
realize
it's
gotten
to
the
point
where
we're
dealing
with
people
that
simply
do
not
want
the
services
they
don't.
I
Obviously
we
will
continue
to
offer
those
services
when
we
make
contact,
but
it's
going
to
come
down
to
consistent
contact
with
them
to
where
they
feel
uncomfortable
and
then
they
need
to
move
on,
and
we
have
on-site
charges,
whether
it's
drug
possession
or
warrants
they're
going
to
be
taken
to
jail
and
once
they
realize
that
we're
there
often
and
consistent,
then
they
start
to
pick
up
and
they
move
to
a
different
area
of
the
city
and
then
we'll
be
doing
this
all
over
another
area
of
the
city.
I
So
it's
gonna,
it's
gonna
be
a
slow
process.
It's
gonna
take
some
time,
but
the
captain
kovals
is
gonna,
is
gonna
work
with
lieutenant
ariza
to
devote
more
resources
there
to
make
contact
with
them
much
more
frequently
on
a
consistent
basis
to
to
start
thinning
out
the
population
there
and
those
who
realize
that
you
can't
just
lay
there
and
be
comfortable
and
if
you
want
to
be
comfortable
you're
going
to
have
to
go
somewhere
else.
J
I
have
a
quick
question
if
I
may,
or,
and
a
comment
and
first
of
all
like
we
appreciate
everything
that
you
guys
are
doing
and
don't
want
to
come
across
that
we
don't
appreciate
what
you
all
are
doing
as
a
city
and
as
police.
J
My
question
is:
you
know
about
the
golf
course
and
have
you
heard
any
complaints
from
the
golf
course
and
the
ownership
and
management
there
as
well,
where
the
homeless
are
impacting
impacting
them
at
all
and
if
there's
a
concerted
effort,
would
that
be
helpful.
D
K
Now,
good
evening,
everyone
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
I'm
joseph
ibarra
and
I'm
one
of
your
neighbors,
I'm
on
the
corner
of
par
and
genocide,
trail
south!
That's
right!
At
the
base
there
happens
to
be
a
water
source.
There
I
see
a
lot
of
the
homeless.
I
see
a
lot
of
cars
coming
in
I've
sent
a
few
emails
into
the
city,
so
this
isn't
the
first
time
communicating
and
my
concern
is
they're
using
it
for
bathing
they're
using
it
for
filling
up
their
jugs.
K
Is
there
anything
that
can
be
done
to
close
that
off
permanently?
It's
just
a
resource
that
probably
is
not
a
good
resource
for
the
residents,
but
a
good
resource
for
the
homeless
that
are
there
in
that
area.
When
you
say
a
water
source.
H
I
can
answer
that.
I
can
explain
that
yeah
thanks
yeah.
I
happen
to
have
to
be
a
plumbing
expert,
so
there's
backflow
prevention
devices
all
along
our
neighborhood
that
do
not
have
coverings
over
them
to
protect
them,
so
they
are
opening
the
petcock
they're
called
test
petcocks
and
they're
opening
those
up
and
using
them
to
wash
and
bathe.
Hey.
K
No,
if
I
may
interject,
sir,
that
is
not
it's
not
on
any
of
our
properties.
It's
actually
at
the
base
of
the
little
walk
that
goes
up
to
the
bridge,
there's
right
by
the
palm
trees
in
that
area.
There's
a
water
source,
I'm
not
sure
who
owns
that,
but
it's
not
a
residential
resource.
F
E
Okay,
I
I
have
a
comment.
I
wanted
to
ask
a
question.
I
know
that
you
know
you
started
off
with
giving
a
couple
reasons
why
you
can't
move
those
people
out
from
the
wash
and
one
that
you
know
it's
legal
to
camp.
You
can't
keep
them
from
camping
and
it
it
seems
to
me
that
you
know
they're
in
the
wash
and
I
we
can't
do
anything.
We
can't
discharge
water
to
the
wash.
Unless
we
have
a
permit,
it
has
to
be
just
water,
it
can't
have
chlorine
in
it.
E
You
can't
go
down
into
the
wash
and
grade
down
there.
You
know
to
open
up
a
drain.
I
mean
anything
that
you
do
in
a
wash
is
just
a
bureaucratic
nightmare
and
there's
a
lot
of
laws
that
apply
to
keeping
the
wash
clean.
You
know
making
sure
that
there's
no
pollution,
the
regional
water
quality
control
board
has
an
estate
has
a
lot
of
laws
about
what
you
can
do
in
a
channel.
What
you
can't.
E
It
seems
odd
to
me
that,
under
all
those
laws
that
you
wouldn't
have
the
justification
for
moving
them
out
of
there
because
they're
they
bring
trash
down
there,
they
defecate
in
the
wash
I
mean
you
can't
have
a
sewer
spill
into
the
wash
or
you
get
fined.
You
know
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
or
millions
of
dollars.
E
It
seems
to
me
that's
another
angle,
you
know
it
may
not
be
it
might.
It
might
not
be
illegal
to
camp,
but
it
I
think
it
really
depends
on
where
you're
camping.
You
know
you
can't
camp
in
the
middle
of
the
street.
You
know,
there's
laws
that
prevent
you
from
doing
that,
so
the
wash
might
be
similar
to
that.
D
I
I
agree
with
you
mark
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
as
a
city
on
how
to
protect
that
wash
from
that
type
of
activity,
and
also
the
standpoint
that
you
know
sleeping
in
a
wash
isn't
a
safe
thing
to
do
considering
what
happened
on
valentine's
day
a
couple
years
ago.
It's
it's!
It's
not
a
safe
area,
and
this
is
things
right
now
that
city
staff
is
looking
at
the
best
way
to
address
this
and
give
us
a
tool
to
address
it.
Thank
you
for
your
comment
there.
D
I
want
a
quick
follow-up
on
the
gentleman
that
asked
about
talkwoods
creek
and
any
issues
there.
I'm
looking
at
calls
for
service
there.
We
have
had
a
few
different
disturbance
calls
coming
from
the
golf
course
in
various
areas,
including
the
part
of
golf
course
directly
behind
the
area
of
broadmoor
and
cherry
hills,
not
that
many,
but
we
have
had
some
calls
for
service
that
have
it
back
to
the
golf
course.
L
Hi,
thank
you.
So
can
you
hear
me
okay,
great
so
mike
thank
you
for
coming
out.
You've
been
really
responsive.
I
think
the
wash
has
been
looking
pretty
good,
since
you
guys
did
your
clean
out
on
tuesday.
L
L
We
want
it
to
be
as
difficult
for
them
to
kind
of
make
this
as
a
pass
through,
because
you
know
you've
got
the
vons
and
you've
got
the
liquor
store
just
right
up
the
the
street
here.
So
you've
got
lots
of
people
passing
through
dumping,
their
shopping
carts
at
the
wash,
and
then
you
know
making
their
way
to
the
camp,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
what
about
just
through
that
area
between
the
bridge
and
the
golf
course
either
a
large
iron
gate.
That's
you
know
not
so
easy
to
pass
through
and
then
what?
L
L
Just
again,
something
that
makes
the
area
less
desirable,
I
do
think
your
presence
here
on
whether
it's
going
to
be
a
weekly
basis
or
having
a
tax
task
force
here.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
really
great,
but
I'm
just
curious.
What
does
that
look
like?
Is
it
just
patrols
going
up
there
in
cars?
Is
it
people
is
it
officers
may
be
walking
through
the
wash
to
investigate?
Could
you
maybe
explain
that
just
a
little
bit
more?
Thank
you.
D
I
D
I
guess
where
my
question
would
be
is:
where
would
that
fencing
end,
because
that
that
that
embankment
goes
basically
from
gene
autry
to
lawrence
crossley
or
to
the
golf
course?
As
for
how
we
would
patrol
that,
you
know
frequently
in
the
patrol
than
our
officers
getting
out
on
foot
in
the
evening
and
going
out
into
the
wash
that's
what
it's
going
to
take.
D
We
are
very
compassionate
about
getting
them
services,
but
some
of
them
do
not
want
the
services
and
we
can
offer
an
offer
an
offer,
but
unfortunately,
if
they're
doing
illegal
activity,
we'll
have
to
address
it
to
have
them
to
leave
that
area,
make
it
more
comfortable,
that's
what
we
would
do
and
that's
so
you
know,
we've
had
officers
going
out
there
quite
a
bit
more
but
based
on
the
comments,
we're
hearing-
and
I
understand
it-
I
understand
your
concerns-
everybody's
concerns
regarding
the
activity
and
that's
what
it's
going
to
have
to
take
more
of
a
presence,
because
when
we're
out
there
you're
not
going
to
see
that
type
of
activity,
that's
the
reality
of
it
and
that
that's
not
only
this
wash
or
anywhere
in
the
city.
H
Oh,
thank
you.
Somebody
mentioned
flood
control
before
and
I'm
a
little
curious
about.
If
the
city
of
palm
springs
owns
that
space
from
the
the
bridge
to
the
golf
course
or
through
the
golf
course
do
you
have
to
share
that
or
there
you
know
somebody
else
mentioned,
there's
rules
and
regulations.
You
can't
do
this
and
that
and
blah
blah.
D
The
good
question,
so
you
know
just
like
anywhere
there's
parcels
of
land
and
there's
different
owners,
and
then
this
area
in
particular,
if
you
were
to
go
into
the
wash
say
you
were
traveling
northbound
on
broadmoor
across
cherry
hills
and
went
up
the
hill
into
the
wash
and
if
you
went
left
on
that
embankment,
there's
a
small
pole
and
a
gate
from
that
section
towards
west,
towards
the
gene
autry
bridge
and
about
25,
maybe
40
yards
out
into
the
wash
that
that
parcel
is
owned
by
the
riverside
county
flood
control
district.
D
The
remainder
of
the
property
on
the
east
side
of
the
bridge
is
city
of
palm
springs
property,
some
of
it,
some
of
it
obviously
controlled
by
talkwood
street
golf
course.
But
ultimately,
it's
city
of
palm
springs
own
property.
So
it's
a
very
small
area
of
it.
That's
riverside
county
flood
control
district.
D
Now
in
terms
of
prosecution
for
trespassing
that
land
that
is
owned
by
the
riverside
county
flood
control
district,
they
would
be
the
ones
that
would
desire
prosecution
for
trespassing,
the
city
owned
property,
which
is
public
property
per
se.
The
city
would
have
to
make
that
decision
for
prosecution
and
something
like
that.
So
that's
how
that
that
works.
D
F
So
I
think
we
need
to
just
to
summarize
what
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
and
how
we
might
go
about
it.
So
obviously,
we've
got
the
issues
in
clearing
as
much
as
we
can
in
the
wash
we've
got
issues
of
additional
police
resources.
They
can
have
more
presence
there.
We
have
issues
potentially
when
you
see
something
that
we
are
able
to
respond
sooner.
So
those
are
the
areas
that
were
focused
on
is.
Is
there
any
comment
on
no
parking
around
there?
F
I
mean
I'm
just
just
curious
because
a
lot
of
times
people
do
want
to
park
and
if
we
put
up
no
parking
signs,
then
that
that
may
not
be
what
others
want,
but
I'm
just
curious
on
cherry
hill
parking,
no
parking
on
that
one
side.
Well,
couldn't.
B
It
be
limited
parking
like
one
hour
or
something
like
that,
and
the
other
thing
is
as
far
as
the
no
trespassing
signs
and
things
like
that
that
you
know
maybe
they
will
be
ignored,
but
then
again
they
are
a
deterrent.
Well,
the
signage.
J
I
just
want
a
voice.
I
don't
think
that
no
parking
is
a
good
idea.
The
the
reality
is.
If
someone
they're
gonna
park,
you
know
they
park
right
behind
our
house.
They
park
on
brentwood
if
anything,
it'll
force
them
to
park
in
front
of
our
house,
but
they
usually
don't
do
if
they
want
to
stay
compliant
with
the
law
and
still
do
whatever
they're
doing
they
would
just
park
in
front
of
our
house
which
I'd
prefer
they
not
be
as
opposed
to
so
that's
that's
kind
of
our
voice
on
that.
Okay,.
G
J
You
know
it
changes
over
the
years
different
cars
at
different
times,
doing
different
things,
but.
G
J
I
mean
you
know,
there's
a
blue
truck
that
has
a
bunch
of
junk
in
it,
but
mostly
parks
down
by
mike
mccullough's
house
a
lot
there
and
then
there's
the
one
that
we
all
took
a
picture
of
recently.
That
was
recently
he's.
That's
the
one
I
talked
to
who
told
me
what
he
was
doing.
You
know,
just
in
his
words,
trying
to
help
people
over
there.
J
Okay,
so
you
know-
and
I
mean
he
does-
have
a
lot
of
water
in
his
truck
and
whatever
we're
not
I'm
not
trying
to
judge
anything,
and
I
told
him
our
point
of
view
and
he's
the
one
that
offered
up
who
they
all
thought
did
it
so
so
it
varies.
There's
also
a
red
ford
truck
something
okay.
B
B
It
keeps
people
out
because
the
parking
enforcement
is
very
predatorial
and
you
know
they're
a
constant
force
just.
F
Just
yeah
just
always
an
option
if,
if
that's
something
a
neighborhood
really
wants,
that's
that's
an
option
that
legally
a
city
can
do
you
know
that
has
some
drawbacks,
but
that
that's
not
certainly
not
off
the
table.
A
Is
there
somebody
on
on
this
regarding
the
fire?
I
just
would
like
to
know
the
fire
that
started
that
burned.
The
palm
trees
on
cherry
hill
of
mike
yeah
was
that
fire
starting
right
directly
with
that?
What
we're
calling
the
gate
and
area
that
you
can
walk
up
through
to
get
into
the
wash
is
that
where
that
started?
A
We
every
weekend
are
out
running
around
in
our
golf
cart
and
when
that
happened,
the
next
day
we
drove
the
wash
along
cherry
hill,
and
I
took
photos
of
probably
at
least
five
fire
sites
in
the
wash
that
I
had
not
necessarily
seen
the
week
before,
even
because
that's
how
often
I'm
doing
that
and
one
of
those
fires
had
a
tree
that
must
have
been
15
20
feet
high.
It
was
a
big
tree.
It
had
a
large
trunk.
It
was
completely
black
okay.
A
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
there's
been
a
fire
there
before
the
cherry
herald
fire?
Okay?
Why
wasn't
there?
It
was
the
tree
just
put
out
and
everything
went
back
to
normal.
Or
can
someone
tell
me
if
those
fires
were
registered
with
the
city
and
did
anyone
come
out
to
do
a
sweep
right
then,
because
maybe
mike's
trees
wouldn't
have
burned?
Had
we
been
on
that
the
week
earlier,
where
I
believe
these
fires
were?
D
To
answer
your
question
yeah,
like
I
said
at
the
beginning,
we've
had
several
fires
out
there.
Over
the
last
year,
we've
had
them
they've
all
been
reported.
Our
fire
department
has
responded
to
several.
Some
of
them
have
been
strictly
warming,
fires
where
there
might
be
people
warming
up
at
a
campsite
or
cooking,
and
some
of
them
might
have
been
that
that
caught
a
palm
tree
on
fire,
but
there
have
been
other
fires
there.
A
A
You
know
I
was
shocked
that
this
tree
had
to
have
burned
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
and
I
wish
someone
would
tell
me
I'm
not
a
liar
or
drink
too
much,
because
that
this
tree
has
not
it
just
jumped
out
at
me,
and
I
thought
wow
look
at
that,
so
I
thought
maybe
they're
coming
for
us
all
of
this.
All
these
fires,
all
of
a
sudden-
and
you
know
a
20-foot
tree
charred.
A
D
That
the
fire
department
responded
to
each
one
of
these
fires
that
we've
been
called
on,
and
an
investigation
has
been
done
by
the
fire
department
at
each
one.
F
So
so
we're
going
on
an
hour
here
and
we
have
a
list
of
things
that
we're
going
to
do
and
also
we're
going
to
try
and
figure
out
that
water
source
that
you
you
raised
and-
and
you
heard
the
chief
there's
a
hyper
sensitivity
to
your
concerns-
we're
hearing
those
the
chief
and
the
captain.
So
you
know
I
I
think
we
need
to
let
the
police
do
their
job
and
you
know
we
can
come
back
and
talk
again,
but
I
think
this
has
been
helpful
mayor.
M
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
coming
here
with
solutions.
You
know
with
50
people
on
this
call.
Obviously
this
is
a
huge
issue
for
the
neighborhood.
We
want
you
to
feel
safe
in
your
homes
and
in
your
neighborhood
and
we're
taking
this
seriously.
I
hope
you
can
see
so
I
appreciate
the
solutions
oriented
you
know.
Nature
of
this
call
sometimes
that's
not
how
how
these
calls
go
and
really
appreciate
the
efforts
here
to
all
work
together
to
make
sure
everyone
can
be
safe
in
their
neighborhood.
We
want
that
too.
M
So
you
know
for
the
dwa.
This
is
the
first
that
at
least
that
I'm
hearing
about
the
issues
that
you're
that
you're
experiencing,
so
I
hope
you
will
reach
out
to
city
staff
as
well
as
everyone
who's
on
this
call.
You
can
reach
out
to
me
directly
as
well.
If
you
want
to
talk
further
about
this,
but
we
want
to
get
these
things
done
and
quickly
and
then
monitor
for
anything
else
that
we
might
need
to
do.
B
And
thank
you.
When
would
we
maybe
have
a
follow-up
like
a
follow-up
meeting
to
find
out,
you
know
what
has
been
done,
what
would
be
a
a
reasonable
period
of
time
for
action
to
have
been
taken
and-
and
you
know
all
of
the
neighbors
to
sort
of
digest
that
and
say
yeah
things
are
better
and
we
feel
like
things.
What
would
be
a
reasonable
window
of
time
before
we
were
to
meet
again.
F
M
I
think
yeah
following
up
is
a
good
commitment
from
us.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
resolved
and
not
just
have
a
meeting,
but
for
the
police
department.
Is
there
a
contact
that
the
neighbors
can
have?
I
know
we
have
neighborhood
officers
and
things
like
that.
They're.
C
I
You
know
you
could
have
we
can
have
captain
kovalev
or
lieutenant
ariza
put
in
the
chat
right
now.
The
various
ways
of
contacting
us
not
only
by
phone
number
by
but
our
email
or
our
non-emergency
line,
we'll
put
that
in
the
chat
right
now
and
then,
as
far
as
a
follow-up
meeting,
we
will
stay
in
contact
with
denise
goolsbee
who
will
reach
out
to
your
neighborhood
chair
and
organize
the
next
zoom
meetings.
I
We
will
be
in
consistent
contact
with
her
when
we
have
enough
sufficient
information
to
provide
an
update,
she'll
coordinate
with
your
your
neighborhood.
So
we
can
do
this
again
soon.
C
C
F
C
Please
real
quickly
when
you
decide
to
clean
this
brush
out.
Please
let
us
know,
because
if
we've
got
50
people
on
there,
we
get
many
hands,
make
light
work,
I'm
willing
to
go
down
and
do
physical
labor
to
I'm
sure
many
other
people
will
do
the
same.
If
you
just
give
us.
C
Did
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
ask
your
question
yeah
so
where
the
fire
was
by
across
the
street
from
mike
mccullough's
house,
it's
all
charred
there's
this
charred
remains.
I
was
wondering.
Maybe
this
is
for
david
ready,
the
city
manager
to
answer,
but
is
there
a
way
that
whose
responsibility
would
be
to
clean
up
all
the
charred
remains?
Maybe
plant
new
oleander
there?
That
was
there
before
and
take
care
of
the
watering
and
there's
like
melted
utility
stuff
there
and
everything.
F
You
know
that
it's
a
good
question
tom,
I
don't
know,
was
that
fire
actually
was
that
private
property
or
was
that
on
city
property.
I
don't
know
specifically.
C
F
H
F
L
C
Thanks
david,
I
appreciate
you
and
and
denise
and
christy
and
mike
and
and
brian
and
gus.
I
think
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
today
and
we're
going
to
move
in
the
right
direction.
Look
forward
to
hearing
from
all
the
vegans.
Thank
you.