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A
B
Good
evening
and
thank
you
for
coming-
and
we
are
really
excited
to
get
to
to
this
stage
in
the
process
of
re-evaluating
the
library
that
we
have
and
the
library
that
we
want
to
have.
So
this
is
a
public
meeting,
so
we're
going
to
conduct
it
according
to
to
those
rules.
But
we've
got
an
awful
lot
to
do
in
a
very
short
time.
So
we're
also
going
to
try
to
be
as
informal
as
we
can
get
away
with
without
having
mr.
B
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
say
right
at
the
very
beginning,
you
were
picked
both
for
your
individual
talents
and
collectively
we
wanted
to
have
a
group
of
individuals
that
reflected
the
community
in
Palm,
Springs
and,
most
importantly,
reflects
the
people
who
actually
use
the
library,
so
we're
very
excited
to
have
each
and
every
one
of
you
I
think
there
are
some
tremendous
strengths
that
we
have
around
the
table.
That
will
help
us
as
we
try
to
move
forward.
I
went
back
and
did
just
some
very
quick
history.
B
B
It
was
another
16
years
before
1941
when
the
Wellwood
library
opened
1939,
when
we
actually
founded
putting
a
library
together,
we
stayed
in
the
Wellwood
library
for
34
years
until
1975
still
have
it
for
use,
but
it
has
now
been
44
years
that
we
have
been
at
sunrise
in
that
building.
So
we've
actually
outlived
the
length
of
time
that
we
used
Wellwood
as
a
primary
library.
B
It
is
very
appropriate
in
time
that
we
be
looking
at
what
is
the
library
that
we
need
for
the
21st
century
and
we
are
trying
now
to
take
a
look
at
what
is
that
library
going
to
be
that
35
40
45
years
from
now?
Folks
are
looking
back
and
saying.
Thank
you
to
the
folks
in
2019
who
made
the
decisions
to
go
forward
with
what
was
going
to
be
needed
to
get
us
through
most
of
the
century
that
that
we
are
now
in.
B
We
have
currently
on
city
council
a
commitment
to
truly
explore
moving
forward
with
the
library
there
have
been
starts
and
stops
over
the
last
few
years
and
we'll
spend
a
little
time
making
sure
we
understand
some
of
the
recent
history.
But
our
focus
is
on
the
future.
And
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
take
advantage
of
the
opportunities
we
have
today
and
to
take
advantage
of
the
openness
that
we
have
on
this
City
Council
to
moving
forward
with
something
new
and
that's
an
opportunity
that
we
we
don't
want
to
to
pass
up?
B
The
second
is,
we
will
take
possession
of
block
G
downtown
in
as
a
part
of
the
agreement,
and
we
have
once
we
do
take
possession.
We
will
have
the
right
to
build
on
that
site
and
a
library
is
very
clearly
a
structure
that
could
be
erected
there.
It
would
be
a
more
vertical
library
than
it
would
be
horizontal,
but
the
space
to
take
into
a
building
exists
there
and
we
will
have
ownership
of
that
land.
B
B
If
you
are
talking
about
a
library
that
has
a
direct
connection
to
programs
at
Co
D,
then
they
is
clear
interests
in
that
the
Board
of
Trustees
at
the
college
of
the
desert
have
not
set
an
agreement
with
Palm
Springs
as
a
part
of
an
agenda
item.
There's
been
no
votes
taken,
so
these
are
preliminary
discussions
at
this
point,
but
they
are
discussions
that
we've
been
encouraged
to
continue
to
have,
and
it
was
the
course
of
the
work
that
you're
taking
and
doing.
You
will
have
an
opportunity
to
to
engage
further
in
those
discussions.
B
Alternative
and
you
have
the
ability
to
consider
that,
but
part
of
that
consideration
has
to
be
what's
the
viable
path
to
obtaining
the
rights
to
to
build
in
comparison
to
where
there
already
is,
and
we
don't
want
to
foreclose
those
discussions.
We
want
you
to
make
decisions
as
to
what's
appropriate.
B
One
of
the
areas
when
it
comes
to
Co
D,
where
there
is
already
some
very
clear
interest,
is
if
there
was
a
social
justice.
A
historical
Palm,
Springs
connection
to
the
library
I
would
draw
an
example
to
the
LGBT
history
component
of
the
San
Francisco
library,
and
connecting
exhibits
connecting
collection
within
a
library
that
would
have
a
connection
to
programs
that
are
taking
place
at
the
co
D
campus
and
providing
an
altar
to
natee
for
students
on
the
campus
to
have
engagement
at
the
local
library.
B
That's
only
one
area
where
there
could
be
that
connection,
but
it
has
I
think
you
have
to
look
at
something
where
you're
making
a
connection
to
two
programs
that
exist
need
to
exist
at
Co
da.
There
are
out
there
a
number
of
examples
of
public
libraries
in
academic
libraries
that
have
worked
together.
B
B
B
We
know
that
you
cannot,
in
the
course
of
the
next
couple
of
months,
completely
design
a
new
library
and
provide
all
of
the
all
opportunities
and
analysis
that
goes
into
it,
which
you're
helping
City
Council
do
is
decide.
What
is
the
primary
path
that
we
should
go
forward
on?
What
is
the
direction
that
we
should
follow?
B
What,
where
do,
you
think,
is
the
best
pathway
forward
for
us
so
that
we
can
make
decisions
this
City,
Council?
That's
currently
sitting
would
like
to
have
that
analysis
before
we
step
down,
and
that
will
happen
in
December.
So
we
are
asking
you
to
complete
your
work
to
be
able
to
report
to
us
in
October.
B
We
are
also
asking
that
you
consult
with
the
library
trustees.
Anyone
else
that
you
wish
to
consult
with
that's
your
decision,
but
very
much
involve
the
trustees.
They
have
not
only
under
our
Charter,
but
they
have
in
terms
of
their
expertise
and
experience,
great
insight.
That
I
think
will,
we
think,
will
be
very
helpful
to
you.
C
I'll
just
add
briefly,
I've
said
publicly
dozens
of
times
now.
I
should
never
follow
Lisa
Middleton,
so
I
think
that
was
thorough
and
thank
you
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone
for
agreeing
to
serve
on
this
committee.
This
is
an
important
decision
for
our
city
and
for
our
community.
We
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
stakeholders
and
people
who've
been
doing
this
work
about
thinking
through
the
future
of
the
library
for
four
decades.
C
You
know
this
is
really
fundamentally
our
position
as
a
community
decision,
and
and
your
role
here
on
this
committee
is
to
really
engage
the
community
and
represent
the
full
community
and
in
making
a
recommendation
to
us
as
the
subcommittee
and
then
the
full
City
Council
the
decision
about
where
the
full,
where
the
future
library
will
be
or
remain
or
be
built.
It
is
up
to
the
City
Council
with
all
of
your
direction,
but
really
it
belongs
to
the
community.
We're
built
and
developing
a
library
of
the
future.
C
I
know,
that's
all
the
work
that's
gone
through
and
thinking
through
really
creatively
about
what
that
library,
where
it
should
be,
and
what
it
should.
Look
like
and
what
factors
we
really
all
together
should
consider
in
making
that
decision.
So
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
serve
the
city
and
and
to
help
us
think
through
and
to
engage
the
community
and
thank
you,
everyone,
who's
here.
This
is
a
great
turnout
for
a
meeting,
so
there's
I
know
a
lot
of
community
interest
and
a
lot
of
work
that
people
are
doing
to
make
this
decision.
D
A
Is
that
and
you
certainly
have
some
interesting
options
on
the
table?
There's
no
question
about
it.
So
I
would
just
ask
that
you
give
careful
consideration
and
do
let
us
know
what
you
would
have
in
mind
as
to
what
would
happen
to
that
building
and
how
it
would
be
protected
going
forward.
So
that's
really
just
the
main
thing
and
I
applaud
you
for
what
you're
doing
and
I
think
it's
a
very
exciting,
very
exciting
project
and
I
wish
her
well
and
again.
I.
Thank
everybody.
C
E
E
My
name
is
rosemary
flirty
and
I'm,
a
member
of
the
board
of
the
Friends
for
the
public
library-
and
it's
been
a
wonderful
experience
and
I
am
representing
a
group
of
people
who
would
really
strongly
advocate
for
the
existing
site
is
very
centralized.
It's
in
an
area
that
really
embraces
seniors
high
school
students,
it's
going
to
be
close
to
the
CEO
D
and
it's
an
interesting
structure.
E
But
it
just
seems
like
there
is
a
world
of
opportunity
in
that
Park
to
create
something
that's
larger
and
into
the
future
to
bring
that
into
an
area
and
a
space.
That's
unique
for
the
library
when
you
look
at
who
many
of
the
people
that
utilize
the
library
it's
a
lot
of
working
women,
a
lot
of
working
people
and
for
some
reason
when
they
come
in
there.
It's
an
opportunity
to
relax
with
their
kids
after
work,
and
it's
got
easy
access.
You're,
not
farting,
fighting
with
with
parking
at
a
college
campus
or
downtown.
E
So
it
really
provides
an
ease
and
a
place
that
kids
love
to
come
and
that
the
families
like
to
attend
to
their
kids
there,
because
it
is
just
a
little
bit
easier
than
many
of
the
places
in
town.
So
it's
a
beautiful,
beautiful
building
I
know
that
there
are
multiple
issues
with
the
building,
but
it
seems
like
there's
opportunity
in
space
with
that.
Park
that
could
be
could
accommodate
the
growth
that's
needed
for
the
library.
Thank
you.
F
G
It
really
does
sound
like
the
committee
is
already
in
looking
very
seriously
at
the
CEO
D
connection.
I
would
like
to
just
make
one
suggestion
and
that
has
to
do
with
autonomy.
What
has
made
the
library
so
central
and
so
important
to
our
community
is
that
it
is
autonomous.
We've
had
wonderful
leadership.
We've
had
good
boards.
We
have
a
wonderful
board
of
trustees.
That
would
you
know
it
really
have
been
guiding
us
for
so
many
years.
I.
G
H
I
My
name
is
Ed
McBride
I'm.
Currently,
the
president
of
the
board
of
trustees
for
the
Palm
Springs
public
library
I've
served
a
term
now
of
three
years
I'm
going
into
my
fourth
year.
My
background
show
that
you
know
is
that
I'm
also
a
local
business
owner
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
I've,
been
involved
in
libraries
for
over
35
years,
not
only
as
someone
who
supports
libraries
but
I've
worked
in
many
libraries
and
to
help
positions
and
libraries
administrators
I.
I
Most
recently,
my
career
was
working
with
organizations
that
produced
Consortium
for
libraries
to
bring
behind
power
together
for
libraries.
So
I've
spent
most
of
my
career
in
recently
in
libraries
I'm
here,
because
I
think
that
we
have
a
world-class
City
and
we
need
a
world-class
library
program.
I
think
when
we
look
at
what
we
have
so
far,
we've
done
tremendous
things
with
what
we've
had
and
I
think
that
we
can
do
much
more
tremendous
things
with
what
we
can
get
and
I
think
that
as
a
trustee
I
can
tell
you
it
wasn't.
I
G
G
Can
you
believe
I've
been
here
seven
years,
I
worked,
I've
been
a
librarian
since
2002
and
all
of
that
time
I
worked
in
the
Valley
Inn
in
the
Coachella
Valley,
so
I
know
library
I'm,
like
you
know,
oh
my
time
here
has
been
in
libraries
and
I
helped
renovate
the
Palm
Desert
library.
Seven
years
ago
there
they've
been
renovated
for
seven
years,
and
then
we
helped
to
renovate
the
well
wood.
G
So
I
do
have
that
experience
and
and
I
love
those
types
of
projects
and
I
love
serving
our
community
and
the
the
library
of
today
is
different
than
it
was
when
I
was
a
kid
now,
it's
a
community
gathering
place
and
it's
a
place
where
you
come
and
you
get
cultural
events
and
and
learn
things,
and
just
it's
just
a
key
like
I
said
and
like
they
were
talking
about
the
community
gathering
place
it's
a
place
to
come,
not
just
go,
get
the
books
and
go
home.
It's
it's!
J
Hi,
my
name
is
michael
hirsh,
fine,
currently
I'm
on
the
Planning
Commission
city
of
Palm,
Springs
and
I'm.
Also
a
board
member
of
the
Friends
of
the
Palm
Springs
Library
I've
had
a
long
interest
in
literacy.
I
used
to
volunteer
at
the
LA
Public
Library
system
as
a
adult
literacy,
mentor
and
I
got
a
lot
of
satisfaction
out
of
doing
that
and
I
I,
just
love
reading
so
I
think
bringing
that
love
to
the
community
and
and
and
leveraging
that
is
something
I'm
looking
forward
to
I
also
spent
35
years
as
an
architect
designing
large-scale.
J
Urban
planning
projects
so
I
have
some
knowledge
as
to
what
constitutes
good,
Orban,
design
and
I
hope
to
bring
that
focus
to
the
decision.
Making
process
I'd
like
to
just
take
a
moment
to
thank
the
trustees
for
bringing
our
consultants
on
board
I
think
that
was
a
brilliant
move
and
really
spurred
this
whole
initiative
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
good
things
are
gonna,
come
out
of
that
and
I'd
like
to
thank
our
council
members
for
choosing
me
because
I'm
gonna
really
like
doing
this.
J
So
thank
you
for
doing
that.
I
recently
emailed
this
group
an
article
from
the
New
York
Times,
about
how
libraries
are
now
this
becoming
focuses
this
around
the
world.
This
is
a
global
phenomenon
both
in
developing
and
developed
countries
and
poorer
cities
and
richer
cities,
smaller
cities
and
bigger
cities.
How
libraries
are
really
becoming
the
icon
of
the
city
with
their
hand,
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
that,
be
it
in
the
existing
space
or
some
new
space,
but
we
really
need
to
set
our
sights
high.
J
We
should
not
be
trying
to
compromise
on
we
do
here.
We
should
be
reaching
for
the
stars,
because
if
we
don't
do
that,
I
don't
think
we've
done
a
service
to
the
city
and
and
just
as
as
you
were
talking
about,
the
well
would
I
thought
well
that
at
the
time
and
still
is
probably
the
most
prominent
piece
of
land
in
the
entire
city
and
that's
the
spot
that
was
chosen
for
the
library
and
that's
the
kind
of
forward-thinking.
J
H
Reading
my
background
is
in
and
both
an
attorney
and
I
was
a
real
estate
developer,
developing,
affordable
housing
and
then
a
lender
lending
to
affordable
housing.
I've
had
about
13
years
on
Planning
Commission's
chaired
two
of
them
and
bring
some
of
those
experiences
here.
I'm
excited
about
this
I'm
excited
for
two
reasons
and
nobody's
really
talking
about
the
fact
here
that,
with
the
library
we
have,
it
has
problems
significant
problems
that
worry
me
when
I
worry
about
staff
having
water
dripping
on
them.
H
The
skylights
not
working
some
of
the
pieces,
the
building
coming
apart,
the
plumbing
not
working
the
air-conditioning,
not
working
there
being
no
setup
for
the
current
electronic
world
that
we
live
in
and
it
can't
be
put
into
that
building
very
easily
so
I'm
looking
at
it.
Although
I
love
the
building,
the
historic
nature
of
the
building
doesn't
make
me
automatically
choose
one
site
over
another
I
think
we
have
to
look
hard
at
what
we
can
do
with
do
with
that
building
and
also
look
at
what
we
want
for
the
future
in
the
building.
H
We
have
right
now
we
can't
meet
there's
not
enough
space
and
the
community
wants
meeting
rooms.
So
I
think
when
we
look
at
the
existing
site
and
we've
had
some
wonderful
people
speak
about
it.
We
have
to
see
what
can
be
done
within
the
fact
that
it's
potentially
a
historic,
it's
not
yet
class
one,
but
it
could
be
class
one
in
a
few
months.
H
We
don't
have
the
plant
that
allows
us
to
program
for
young,
the
young
people
that
we
want
to
have
come
with
in
Palm
Springs
or
some
of
the
older
ones
of
us
who
have
a
lot
of
time
to
meet,
and
you
know,
would
love
reading
groups
and
other
kinds
of
groups
in
the
library.
So
that's
that's.
Why
I'm
here?
It's?
Why
I'm
on
the
board?
I,
don't
really
don't
bring
library
skills,
I,
bring
sort
of
real-world
skills
of
what
does
it
cost?
How
do
you
do
it,
and
can
we
push
it
to
get
it
done.
F
My
name
is
Juanita
Garner
and
I
work
for
the
palm-trees
Unified
School
District,
currently
I'm
working
at
Katherine,
finchy,
elementary
school
and
I
work,
mainly
with
students
that
are
struggling
with
reading
and
reading
comprehension.
So
you
know
a
lot
of
the
advice
I
give
parents
is
take
your
kids
to
the
library.
This
is
going
on
and
that's
going
on,
and
you
know
try
to
encourage
them,
of
course,
to
read
as
much
as
possible.
F
I'm
also
very
involved
with
the
community
and
specifically
with
the
Latino
community
in
Palm
Springs
a
lot
of
times.
They
don't
feel
that
they
are
included
in
a
lot
of
the
things
that
happen
here,
and
so
my
big
push
is
to
let
them
know
that
they're
welcome
and
that
they're
part
of
our
city
and
that
they
need
to
be
heard
and
contribute
to
what's
going
on.
So
that's.
F
K
K
The
building
was
built
in
1971
I
believe
that
Palm
Springs
is
made
of
many
different
villages.
We
have
the
downtown
village,
we
have
the
small
tree
village
and
every
village
is
different
of
his
characteristic.
Some
people
who
visit
these
villages,
this
library
site
is
one
of
those
villages,
and
the
question
really
is
about
asking
the
double
questions
of
wait.
A
minute
we
have
land.
So
how
much
can
we
expand?
Well,
what
would
happen
to
the
park?
K
What
would
happen
to
our
view
from
the
city
if
he
says
that
when
a
1971
building
doesn't
work,
we're
gonna
build
a
new
one
and
then
what
are
we
gonna
do
with
the
existing
one?
There's
just
so
much
to
look
at
and
so
much
to
evaluate
and
the
idea
is.
Can
we
live
with
this
comp
discomfort
of
this
adjacencies
that
were
not
probably
going
to
solve
during
the
next
two
months,
but
we
could
probably
ask
those
questions
and
then
come
up
with
I
think
a
very
smart
recommendation.
L
Hello,
I'm
Tony,
Garvey
I'm
with
library
strategies
and
we're
here
to
support
you
in
any
way.
We
can,
as
you
go
about
the
process
of
evaluating
and
selecting
a
site
for
this
library.
I
was
also
here
a
number
of
months
ago
to
assist
in
the
strategic
planning
process,
so
I
feel
like
I've
adopted
this
community.
L
At
a
time
when
we
were
building
many
libraries
in
Phoenix
and
as
a
director
in
a
place
called
Loudoun
County,
which
is
a
bedroom
community
of
Washington
DC,
where
we
also
were
building
a
lot
of
libraries,
so
I
have
kind
of
a
unique
background
that
I
can
bring
to
this
group
and
to
support
and
assist
you
in
any
way.
I
can
thank
you.
M
Hi
there,
my
name
is
su
Hall
and
I
was
the
co-founder
of
libraries
strategies,
which
is
an
international
library.
Consulting
group
we
were
created
by
our
friends
of
the
library
in
Saint
Paul
Minnesota,
which
is
actually
our
library's
foundation
and
I
had
nothing
to
do
with
this,
but
it
was
one
of
the
best
library
foundations
in
the
country,
so
people
kept
coming
desks,
saying
how
can
we
do
what
you're
doing
so?
We
created
a
consulting
group
about
16
years
ago,
and
we've
worked
in
Eastern,
Europe
and
Saudi
Arabia
all
over
this
country.
M
So
we've
seen
a
lot
of
libraries
and
worked
with
a
lot
of
library
organizations.
Library
buildings
are
not
my
specialty
getting
people
to
ask
the
right
questions
and
answer.
Those
questions
is
what
I
bring
to
the
table.
What
Tony
and
I
are
going
to
do
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
Working
with
this
building
committee
is
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
your
research.
You
have
a
wonderful,
committed
committee,
who's
going
to
make
a
very
big
decision
within
a
very
short
period
of
time,
so
our
job
is
to
go
out.
M
Learn
about
your
options.
What
are
the
pluses,
what
are
the
minuses,
what
should
be
considered
given
what
we've
learned
about
your
community
and
we
learned
a
lot
through
your
strategic
planning
process
about
where
your
values
are
and
your
value
you're,
a
very,
very,
very
unique
community.
In
so
many
wonderful
ways,
I
mean
we've
really
grown
to
care
about
this
community
community
because
you
are
so
unique
and
have
such
wonderful
resources,
not
the
least
of
which
of
the
people.
M
So
our
job
is
to
take
all
of
what
we've
learned,
what
we're
going
to
go
out
and
learn
very
intensively
and
bring
it
back
to
the
committee.
We
are
not
going
to
make
a
recommendation
to
you
on
which
option
you
should
choose:
that's
the
job
of
the
committee
and
ultimately
the
City
Council,
but
we're
hopefully
going
to
bring
you
the
data.
You
need
to
make
the
wisest
decision
for
your
community.
B
Well,
let
me
do
a
little
personal
part.
I
started
going
to
libraries
pretty
early
in
my
life
and
as
someone
who
was
closeted
through
all
of
my
youth,
a
public
library
and
the
school
library,
was
the
place
that
I
could
go
and
ask
questions
in
the
books.
That
I
was
terrified
to
to
ask
anyone
else
and
terrified
to
even
speak
the
words
out
loud
and
in
a
working-class
City
with
a
small
public
library,
I
started
finding
answers
and
stories
in
those
books
that
it
still
took
me
a
long
time
to
say
to
anyone
else.
B
C
Again,
I
have
to
follow.
You
rethink
this
seating
arrangement,
Christy
holstege.
We
just
wanted
to
share
some
personal.
You
know
meaning
for
the
library
for
us.
So
thank
you
all
for
all
of
all
of
you.
Sharing
and
she's
been
really
powerful
and
really
inspired
by
everyone
around
the
room.
You
know
for
me
my
husband
grew
up
in
Palm
Springs
he's
third
generation
Palm
Springs
here,
so
his
parents
grew
up
here
as
kids.
He
grew
up
here
as
well
when
we
have
kids,
it'll,
be
fourth
generation,
Palm
Springs.
C
So
for
us
thinking
about
the
Palm
Springs
of
the
future
and
a
library
to
bring
kids
are
gonna
grow
up
in
a
very
different
and
they
already
are
growing
up
in
different
different
environment
and
different
world.
So
thinking
about
the
Palm
Springs
of
the
future
and
the
library
of
the
future
I
think
is
really
exciting
work
for
us
to
do
how
lucky
we
are
to
be
at
this
moment
of
history
together
how
lucky
you
are
to
have
an
opportunity
to
build
a
library
of
the
future
in
Palm
Springs.
C
That
was
not
on
the
table
ten
years
ago.
So
we're
we're
in
a
very
privileged
place
as
the
city
and
and
I'm
just
inspired
by
everyone
to
be
a
part
of
it,
a
little
bit
about
our
role,
I
think,
and
so
we
can
talk
about
process
and
additional
meetings
and
how
you
want.
Lisa
and
I
is
a
subcommittee
to
participate
in
this
work.
You
know
if
there
are
meetings
that
you
want
to
kind
of
go
on
and
take
on,
but
I
think
our
role
is
to
really
help
with
city
staff.
C
To
get
you
all
the
information
that
you
need
to
make
an
informed
decision,
so
you
know
advocating
for
this
committee
to
have
everything
that
we
need
to
do
the
work
and
answer
some
of
those
hard
questions,
because
I
think.
Yes,
we
need
to
answer
the
hard
questions,
not
just
pick
the
easiest
way,
but
really
think
about.
What's
gonna,
be
here
in
30
years
and
50
years
for
our
families
and
residents
of
the
future.
D
Sure,
just
briefly
so
I'm
David
the
city
manager
and
obviously
we
have
a
lot
work
to
do
in
a
short
amount
of
time
and
and
the
issue
of
questions
was
was
raised.
There'll
be
a
lot
of
questions
and
and
I
would
like
you
to
have
to
rely
on
staff
to
provide
some
of
that
information.
I'm
very
happy.
Our
consultants
are
here
because
there
are
things
we
don't
know
so
I
think
working
together,
the
body
and
universe
of
information.
D
Think
I
would
just
note
that
you
know
this
has
been
a
lot
of
years
coming
on
up
on
a
personal
note,
there's
been
a
lot
of
years
coming
in
if
these,
some
of
you
recall
back
when
we
did
measure
J
where,
where
the
residents
agreed
to
tax
themselves,
the
main
the
main
thrust
of
that
was
the
downtown,
but
also
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
that
this.
The
second
I
big
item
was
the
library
that
that
would
give
us
the
ability
to
actually
do
it.
D
N
N
You
know
how
old
I
am
and
I'm
a
small
business
owner
in
Palm,
Springs
and
I
was
one
of
the
founding
members
of
the
Palm
Springs
Library
Foundation
and
I
currently
serve
as
the
president
of
the
Palm
Springs,
Historical
Society,
so
I
hope
to
be
able
to
bring
some
of
that
historical
perspective,
because
Palm
Springs
is
entirely
unique
and
if
we
approach
this
project
in
that
vein,
I
think
we'll
be
wildly
successful
and
so
anyway,
I'm
glad
to
be
here
and
hope
to
contribute.
So
thank
you.
B
So
we're
missing
two
members
of
the
committee
that
just
could
not
be
here
this
evening:
David
Brinkman
who's,
the
executive
director
of
the
judge.
Today's
project
brings
an
enormous
wealth
of
experience
in
background
to
not
the
least
of
which
is
one
of
the
most
prolific
fundraisers
in
Palm
Springs
and
depending
on
what
direction
we
go.
B
There
may
clearly
be
a
role
for
private
philanthropy
in
achieving
the
goals
that
we
we
have.
That's
not
the
only
reason
we
asked
David
to
be
a
part
of
this,
but
that's
an
area
of
expertise
that
is
needed
for
this
project
and
the
last
member
is
Sandra
Lyon,
who
is
the
superintendent
of
schools
for
Palm
Springs
Unified
School
District,
and
we
forgot
to
check
that
second
and
fourth,
Tuesday's
are
the
board
meetings
for
the
board
of
education.
B
B
So
I
think
something
that
came
out
from
everyone
is
a
sense
that
Palm
Springs
is
a
very
unique
community
and
we
want
a
library
that
does
not
look
like
you
could
pick
it
up
and
drop
it
in
another
community
and
it
would
fit
right
in
there
needs
to
be
in
our
library
in
Palm
Springs,
something
that
lets
people
know
when
they
walk
through
the
door
and
all
of
the
time
that
they're
in
there
in
Palm
Springs,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
approach
that.
But
what
else
do
we
have
to
do
today?
B
J
Yeah,
going
back
to
the
importance
of
the
project
to
the
community
and
the
importance
of
the
site
as
it
symbolizes
that
importance
to
the
community
and
from
an
urban
planning
point
of
view,
and
this
is
yeah
and
from
an
urban
planning
point
of
view.
I
would
like
the
committee
to
consider
the
site.
I,
don't
know
the
block
name,
but
it's
the
one
yeah
block
F
opposite
the
new
public
park,
it's
more
horizontal
as
opposed
to
what
would
be
required
vertical.
It's
a
much
more
important
site.
J
It
would
constitute
a
downtown
Civic
campus
between
the
park,
the
museum
and
the
and
a
museum
at
the
museum
and
a
library
at
that
site.
It
would
be
a
more
prominent
site.
It
would
be
an
easier
site
to
design
an
iconic
building
on.
It
would
have
interaction
with
the
park,
so
it'd
be
a
symbiotic
relationship.
The
park
could
take
advantage
of
the
people
going
to
the
library
in
the
library
could
take
advantage
of
the
people
out
to
use
the
park.
J
Maceo
pnes,
a
piece
of
that
site.
That's
up
against
the
library,
the
museum,
it's
not
the
majority
of
it
obviously,
but
it
owns
that
it
could
combine
that
with
the
part.
That's
where
the
babies
currently
are
it
would.
It
could
possibly
take
advantage
of
restricted
parking
for
the
library
and
I.
Just
think
we
should
consider
it
as
a
sort
of
an
ultimate
site
may
not
happen
that
I'd
like
that
to
be
part
of
the
agenda
to
analyze
that
site.
C
Yeah
and
I
think
that
that's
exactly
what
we
want
from
this
committee
and
I
think
that
there
will
be
a
lot
of
thought
that
goes
into
that
and
so
for
us
and
I
meant
to
say,
I
have
not
made.
We
have
not
made
up
our
mind,
so
we
honestly
obviously,
and
want
you
to
come
to
the
same
place
of
really
thinking
about
the
pros
and
the
cons
and
all
of
the
questions
that
each
site
raises.
So
I
can't
speak
to
the
viability
and
feasibility
of
that
site.
I
know
that
we've
discussed
it
a
little
bit.
C
D
Main
the
main
issue,
obviously,
is
we
don't
control
that
site
the
other
three
we
actually
control
on
in
some
form
or
fashion
I?
Have
the
ability
to
actually
go
forward?
That
site
would
require
a
an
additional
amount
of
significant
money,
potentially
and
then
obviously
the
acquiring
the
site,
so
that
that
would
be
in
a
whole
different,
different
direction,
but
again
if
it
was,
if
it
was
the
the
important
you
know
for
important
reasons,
you
know
it's
not
that
you
couldn't
do
there.
It's
just.
It
would
be
significant
other
challenges
as
well.
What.
C
What
I
might
offer
is
a
fourth
option
about
another
site,
so
having
sort
of
an
open,
ended
and
another
site,
and
then
we
can
work
together
to
set
a
narrow
that
down.
So
if
there
is
that
one,
if
there
are
other
recommendations
here
that
we're
not
going
to
decide
right
now,
but
that
we're
gonna,
you
know
in
talking
the
community
and
get
being
public
input
put
in
that
category
of
other
sites,
I
think
that
that
would
be
be
possible
to
consider
it.
That
way,
you.
B
If
there
is
another
site-
and
it
could
be
that
one
or
it
could
be
something
else-
that's
something
that
should
surface
from
within
your
group
and
do
your
evaluation
as
to
what
you
believe
is
appropriate
there,
the
question
of
how
we
would
acquire
the
right
to
build.
There
is
something
that
has
to
be
a
part
of
that
analysis,
but
I,
don't
think
we
on
city
council
want
to
foreclose
any
conversation
at
this
stage.
N
C
C
You
know,
however,
you
want
to
present
that
information
to
the
subcommittee
in
the
City
Council
about
your
recommendation
for
site
and
the
analysis
that
went
into
that
in
October,
and
then
this
current
City
Council
can
make
the
decision
about
site
selection
so
that
we
can
move
forward
on
thinking
about
financing,
that
and
and
and
moving
forward
on,
the
development
of
that
site.
That
selected.
J
Could
I
ask
a
question
about
the
proposal
to
partner
with
CEO
Dee
would,
with
the
committee,
have
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
CEO
D
officials
for
who
are
responsible
for
making
that
decision
and
also
I
just
like
to
make
a
comment.
It
was
stated
that
we
have
control
over
three
sites.
We
don't
really
have
control
over
the
three
sites.
We
have
control
over
two
sides:
the
CEO
D
site.
We
don't
have
control
over
I
would.
D
H
Just
a
quick
question
I'd
like
to
see
the
sights
I
think
for
this
whole
group
I
think
it's
important
that
people
walk
and
feel
them
and
understand
where
and
the
CEO
D
site
they
would
have
come.
They
possibly
might
commit
to
I
know
the
downtown
sites
a
little
hard
to
walk,
because
it's
filled
with
machinery
right
now,
but
we
can
at
least
walk
around
it
and
take
a
look
at
it
and
take
a
look
at
the
parking
possibility.
For
me,
parking
is
always
an
issue
until
we
finally
get
into
a
different
mode
of
transportation.
N
D
If
I
could
offer
to
offer
this,
just
because
actually
this
is
an
epistemological
question,
because
how
do
you
know
what
you
don't
know?
How
do
you
know
what
you
know
and
we
don't
know
so
much
and
there's
it
was
said:
there's
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions
and
and
and
and
and
you're,
not
gonna,
know
them,
because
we've
been
struggling
to
find
them.
They're
gonna
evolve,
I.
Think
for
our
process
here.
D
If,
if
we're
gonna
be
able
to
have
a
general
recommendation
in
a
two-month
time
frame
and
I'm
just
insane
from
from
working
with
this
for
10
years,
my
sense
is,
you
know.
Looking
at
the
site
is
fine,
what
the
building
is
going
to
be.
What
the
functions
are
the
size,
we're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
get
into
any
of
that.
I
think
that's
the
next
step
right
now.
D
Maybe
the
first
thing
to
do
is
to
be
able
to
list
the
pros
and
cons
of
each
site
in
sort
of
a
SWOT
analysis,
strengths,
weaknesses,
opportunities,
threats
that
you
guys
can
actually
get
your
teeth
into
and
then
start
drilling
down
deeper.
So
maybe
that
is
what
we
have
to
come
to
you
with
at
the
very
next
meeting
and
get
that
calendar
quickly.
And
how
do
we
arrive
at
that
and
I?
Think
it's
a
couple
of
things,
one
we
can
communicate
with
you.
D
You
know
email
phone
and
get
your
pros
and
cons
generally
on
each
site.
We
have
a
list
of
pros
and
cons
of
each
site.
The
consultants,
I
suspect,
might
be
able
to
help
us
with
that.
So
in
our
next
meeting
we
have
a
chart
on
the
wall
and
you'll
see
it
before
you
get
here
the
list
of
the
pros
and
cons
of
each
site,
and
that
might
be
at
least
the
next
step
to
move
forward
to
start
narrowing
this
down,
and
you
also
could
have
Michael
you
could
have.
D
I
I
may
jump
in
here
is
someone
who's
done,
buildings
and
libraries
in
particular.
What
I
would
I
think
we
probably
should
do
is
our
consultants
are
here
remember
as
a
resource,
and
they
have
years
of
experience
in
doing
these
and
believe
me-
we're
not
the
first
library
in
the
United
States
to
have
to
do
this.
There
is
there
is
published
criteria
for
how
you
would
select
a
site
for
us,
a
building
to
serve
the
size
of
our
community
they're
shaking
their
heads.
I
They
understand
this
I
think
we
start
there,
but
this
is
the
criteria
that
you,
you
should
consider
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
including
program
by
the
way
and
populations
serve
traffic
patterns,
there's
all
kinds
of
things
that
we
need
to
probably
start
with
and
have
them
produce
for
us
and
tweak
according
to
our
unique
community.
Always
we
always
have
to
do
that
and
let
that
be
our
first
guy
in
our
first
SWAT
I've
done
many
swats
incorporated
in
that
SWOT
analysis.
I
When
we
look
at
each
of
these
these
locations
as
a
first
run-through,
because
I
think
we
all
need
to
be
educated
on
each
of
these
sites.
While
teaming
is
really
I,
think
he
as
well
I
think
we
all
live
in
this
community
we've
seen
what's
happened
just
up
the
street
with
all
of
a
sudden,
there's
a
mall,
that's
gone,
and
how
that
just
changes.
The
way
we
look
at
that
space,
so
I
think
you'd
be
really
important
for
our
consultants
to
start
immediately.
I
I
will
tell
you
that
they
asked
me
to
give
them
a
little
tour
today,
so
we
did
go
downtown
in
Walt,
so
they
saw
the
lot
downtown.
They
saw
the
College
of
the
desert
and
they
know
our
library
now
very
well,
so
they've
actually
had
a
little
bit
of
a
sneak,
peek
and
so
I
think
it's
only
fair
to
have
them
now
start
outlining
for
us
some
of
the
things
we
should
consider
unless
it's
that,
okay
with
everyone
I
mean
I,
think
that's
a
great
start.
A
I
H
Just
because
I
got
interrupted
before
side.
Another
question
I
wanted
to
ask
the
there
are
two
pieces
to
this.
One
is
Jeannie,
and
maybe
people
need
to
do
it
individually.
Jeannie
put
together
a
wonderful
presentation
on
the
history
of
the
to
rehab,
the
library
and
I.
Think
people
here
need
to
see
it.
It
was
educational
for
us
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
The
other
is
that
there's
something
unique
with
the
existing
site
because
of
the
architect
involved
and
I
know
on
the
board.
H
We
have
to
put
our
arms
a
little
bit
around
what
we
have
now
and
what
the
possibilities
and
limitations
of
it
are
and
maybe
even
a
different
way
than
we
look
at
the
two,
the
two
other
possible
sites.
So
that's
just
what
I
wanted
to
say.
I
know
and
I
love
your
suggestion
about
criteria.
I
think
you
know.
We
also
need
to
look
at
our
existing
site
against
current
criteria,
but
I
I
do
think
it's
that
particular
site
has
some
features
to
it
that
a
regular
urban
library
doesn't
have,
or
maybe
doesn't
have.
G
A
H
N
H
N
H
D
G
I
wanted
to
tell
you
how
to
find
it
it's
on
YouTube,
so
our
library
board
of
trustees
meetings
are
recorded
and
if
you
go
to
youtube
and
search
for
city
of
Palm
Springs,
our
live
library,
Board
of
Trustees
meeting
July
26
was
the
date
that
I
gave
the
presentation
and
the
slideshows
are
there
and
it
transitions
nicely
with.
It
follows
along
with
with
the
slides
on
the
screen,
so
you
can
watch
the
presentation
so.
C
D
C
Sorry,
thank
you
so
if
I
can
I
think
that
that's
right
that
we
sort
of
create
onboarding
materials
for
all
the
committee
members,
and
so
we
wanted
to
have
this
meeting
to
introduce
you
to
talk
about
the
process
to
talk
about
what
you
need
to
gain
information
to
make
this
type
of
decision,
so
I
think
if
we
can
think
about
staff
and
the
consultants
about
the
work
that
you've
done
and
sharing
that
with
the
committee
and
so
I
know
the
strategic
plan.
That
was
just
on
the
work
that
the
consultants
did.
C
If
you
have
background
and
from
information
about
that
work
as
well,
I
know
that
we
have
data
about
the
current
usage
of
the
library.
Things
like
that
I
think
would
be
useful
the
sites
you
know
we
didn't
do
a
clear,
like
staff
presentation
about
the
three
sites
with
you
know,
PowerPoint
that
we
could
do
or
that
staff
or
consultants
could
help
with,
because
there
are
multi
factors
to
consider.
M
M
So
we're
gonna
be
developing
that
and
getting
that
to
you
in
the
next
couple
of
days
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
sort
of
present
it
to
you
in
a
template
and
then
recommend
that
you
do
a
walkabout
to
each
of
the
three
sites
and
can
literally
go
yes
No.
So
it's
a
it's
a
tool
to
help.
You
look
at
all
three
sites
relatively
objectively.
So
that's
the
first
thing
that
we
would
suggest.
The
second
point
that
I
would
make
is
a
cautionary
one.
M
It's
very
easy
to
get
to
what's
gonna
happen
in
the
library.
What's
the
children's
we're
gonna
look
like?
Are
we
gonna
have
a
community
room
you're?
Not
there
yet,
and
you
can't
quite
frankly
get
there
by
the
end
of
October.
So
that's
your.
Would
you
agree?
Yes,
yes,
I'd
hate
for
disagree
in
from
your
that's
your
that's
your
next
face
and
face,
and
it
may
be
done
by
the
same
building
committee
or
a
new
group
of
people,
but
you
this
is.
This
is
actually
in
some
ways
the
more
direct
of
decision-making.
That's
gonna
happen.
M
M
One
is
working
with
the
building
committee
on
making
a
site
selection
and
the
other
is
working
with
the
foundation
and
the
friends
on
determining
how
these
two
organizations
are
going
to
support
the
city
in
coming
up
with
the
money
and
furnishing
it
and
putting
everything
in
this
wonderful,
new
library
that
you
like.
Just
so.
You
know
what
all
we're
doing,
but
just
to
caution.
You
don't
jump
to
what
the
chairs
and
the
children's
reading
room
are.
Gonna.
Look
like
because
you'll
be
very
disappointed.
N
If
this
process
I
maybe
misunderstood
what
I'm
talking
about,
is
a
specific
program
that
is
unique
to
Palm
Springs
that
this
only
this
group
could
could
offer
to
the
council.
It
must
have
an
LGBT
museum
place.
You
know
not
about
the
children's
room
or
meeting
rooms
or
that
sort
of
thing
I'm
talking
about
something
programmatic,
that's
unique,
but.
M
N
M
N
K
And
you
could
I
could
I.
Also
add
the
the
selection
of
the
site,
right
now
to
me
seems
very
locking
in
its
possibility,
without
having
seeing
all
the
backup
information
so,
for
example,
the
current
site
right
now.
Can
we
expand?
Can
this
building
become
an
event
building
and
next
door
to
it
is
the
brand-new
jazz
library
it
is.
It
is
it
that
the
land
could
be
used
for
dual
use?
K
Is
there
that
we
can
urban
plan
the
area
so
that
there's
more
programs
to
it
and
set
up
this
expansive
park,
in
which
everybody
feels
threatened
to
use
it,
because
it's
too
wide
and
too
open
what
what?
How
much
freedom
do
we
have
in
each
of
these
sides?
So,
for
example,
a
block
G
the
limitation
is
we
have
to
go
vertical,
so
we
can't
go
horizontal
so
that
limits
that
side,
but
the
current
library
side
it
could
go
horizontal.
K
D
And
those
are
very
good
questions
and
and
that's
part
of
what
the
work
of
this
group
you
know,
you're
contemplated
knowledge
on
that
is
going
to
be
hugely
important
because
you're
right,
you
could,
you
could
would
add,
on
to
the
current
library
or
build
a
new
library
next
to
it.
So
those
are
all
very
legitimate
questions.
David.
H
N
D
That
we
can
get
out
of
them
is
our
camp.
We
will.
We
would
provide
a
location
in
the
campus,
is
one
of
the
first
phase
and
to
provide
the
library
and,
of
course,
obviously
the
the
appropriate
parking
one.
The
one
thing
that
they
did
one
is
that
potentially
the
community
room
or
space
that
they
could
use,
we
could
you
use
together
and
if
I
could
just
have.
A
closing
comment
is
hard
in
this
challenge.
D
Even
as
this
is
that
all
the
questions
you're
raising
just
the
fact
that
we're
actually
talking
about
now
is
a
huge
step
forward,
because
council
hasn't
even
had
that
discussion.
Yet
we
haven't
had
the
ability
to
do
that
yet
so
so
it
really
there's
no
right
or
wrong
to
this,
but
just
this
even
going
through
this
process
is
hugely
important.
So
I
want
us
to
feel
very
excited
about
it,
because
this
is
huge,
important
work
and
no
matter
what
it
will
not
be
a
failure,
no
matter
what
and.
C
To
answer
Maria's
questions
which
I
think
are
amazing,
credible
questions.
We
want
you,
as
the
city
council
subcommittee,
to
think
expansively
and
think
creatively
about
those
opportunities
and
that's
why
we've
amassed
this
brain
power
that
is
in
this
at
this
table
and
in
this
room
to
think
that
through
because
at
city
council
level
were
often
forced
to
think
more
specifically
right,
we
want
to
make
a
decision
about
site
selection.
We're
gonna
have
to
pick,
but,
but
here
you
have
opportunity,
though,
it's
time
limited
to
answer
those
questions,
get
those
questions
answered,
think,
expansively
and
creatively.
C
G
Have
a
question
about
a
lot
G,
if
you
don't
mind
me
asking
it:
do
we
does
the
city
own
the
parking
structure?
Yes,
just
west
okay?
Is
it
possible
to
build
up
and
over
yes?
Wouldn't
that
be
magic,
okay,
I,
wouldn't
I
didn't
know
if
that
was
possibility
and
is
the
parking
deck
under
loyalty?
Yes,
so
we
can't
go
down.
G
M
M
D
C
Just
to
add
on
that
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
really
have
kind
of
detailed
information
about
each
side
and
presented
to
this
committee,
because
it's,
we
really
need
you
to
have
all
the
information
and
not
just
second
hand
from
us,
and
we
want
you
to
find
that
information
and
we'll
help
you
do
that
too,
but
call
my
understanding.
You
know,
we've
had
three
or
four
meetings
with
college
of
the
desert.
C
Is
that
their
they
don't
need
to
build
a
library
in
this
college
campus,
and
so
they
already
have
enough
libraries
based
on
their
system.
So
they're
not
they
were
not
when
we
talked
to
them
planning
initially
on
building
a
library
which
I've
heard
in
the
community
is
a
misunderstanding
that
of
course
they
have
to
build
a
library.
So
we
could
do
build
a
joint
one.
C
C
With
great
development,
we've
talked
secret
development.
You
saw
the
public
negotiation
process
that
went
forward
great
developments,
the
developer,
who
owns
a
lot
of
the
new
Downtown
Development
and
some
of
these
parcels,
and
so
the
public
saw
during
our
negotiations
with
grid
on
the
settlement
agreement
that
they
had
initially
offered
a
site
and
offered
wanting
to
have
a
library
there
and
I
think
that
there's
incentives
there
to
have
a
library
that
would
be
a
tourist
attraction
that
would
drive
walking
traffic
to
the
downtown.
C
B
Those
of
us
on
council
received
the
New
York
Times
column
from
two
sources.
Mr.
hirschbaum's
sent
a
copy
to
us
and
mr.
Bronson
a
copy
to
us
so
I,
one
of
the
things
that
did
transpire
and
I
think
this
was
not
to
blame
the
media,
but
in
the
very
first
open
discussion
that
we
had
on
the
potential
settlement.
I
think
there
was
some
confusion
on
the
part
of
the
public
that
a
decision
had
already
been
made
to
that.
B
The
library
would
be
located
downtown
and
that
had
not
been
made,
and
we
on
council
did
not
want
to
leave
that
impression
that
a
decision
had
been
made.
That's
not
to
say
that
we
don't
think
there
are
some
positives
about
downtown
and
that
there
are
not
some
true
positives
about
having
a
destination
library
in
the
downtown
area.
But
until
we
get
into
the
process
that
we're
in
now,
we
didn't
want
anything
coming
out
that
would
make
it
appear.
We
had
made
a
decision
that
we
had
not
in
fact
made.
C
B
You're
gonna
make
your
recommendations
you're
going
to
do
your
evaluation
and
what
we
hope
to
receive
is
something
that
we
can
take
to
City
Council,
and
that
is
complete
enough.
That
answers
the
questions
that
council
needs
to
to
have
answered
in
order
to
be
able
to
make
a
decision-
and
that's
not
answering
absolutely
every
conceivable
question
that
we
could
possibly
come
up
with
it's
providing
us
with
the
guidance
needed
to
be
able
to
make
a
decision.
K
D
K
D
K
H
Yeah
measure
J
was
going
to
had
we
had
a
proposal
in
place,
put
five
million
dollars
aside
for
the
library
this
year
and
they
didn't
because
it
was
premature,
so
I
do
think
there
are
some
other
potential
sources
of
help
for
measure.
J
they've
been
very
interested
in
the
library,
but
I
would
think
those
funds
probably
would
go
to
whichever
site
the
city
chose,
but
we
shouldn't
assume
that
there
are
no
there
no
dollars
the
trustees
have
around
two
million
dollars.
H
H
D
B
J
B
I
I
The
previous
proposals
that
have
been
before
trustees
before
on
the
current
site
and
the
changes
that
have
been
proposed
down
through
the
years,
the
consultants
preparing
the
standard
criteria
for
site
selection
and
a
template
for
most
libraries,
making
it
pretty
generic
for
libraries
in
general,
the
usage
data
for
the
library
and
how
we're
being
used
currently
previously
I
think
that's
very
in
line
with
the
trustees
loved
hearing
about
that.
So
we
can
provide
that
site
details
and
capabilities,
we'll
start
working
on
trying
to
pull
that
together
for
each
site.
I
I
don't
know
if
we
can
have
that
by
the
next
meeting,
but
all
this
discussion
about
here's
the
site,
here's
the
capability
that
we
will
start
working
on,
trying
to
get
that
information
from
city
staff,
correct,
that's
where
we
would
go
and
that
I
think
would
be
the
College
of
the
desert
proposals,
for
example,
and
maybe
what's
been
discussed
for
a
lot
G
downtown
this.
The
the
downtown
Park
planning,
what's
spinning
and
proposed
for
that
and
agreed
or
approved
I
think
we
also
need
a
copy
of
the
annual
report
from
the
library.
I
Once
again,
it's
just
more
information
about
the
library
from
staff
and
what
they
do
and
how
they
provide
services
to
the
community
I.
Just
the
the
question
came
up.
Would
it
be
possible
for
us
to
get
a
copy
of
the
measure
J
budget
that
reflects
the
library,
because
you
can
see
what
we
currently
have
$600,000
we're
about
to
spend
this
year
for
the
library
and
the
one
point?
Sixth,
that
was
approved
and
this
year?
I
In
addition
to
that,
to
answer
some
of
those
questions
about
funding,
at
least
you
can
see
that
we're
beginning
to
pop
up
in
those
places
that
are
for
the
future
funding.
We
can
also
do
there
from
the
live
film
library
foundation-
there's
not
a
lot
there,
but
we
can
also
adapt
on
the
Library
Foundation.
I
We'll
get
the
the
publications
out
there
that
talk
about
joint
Public,
Library
academic
partnerships,
I've
been
I've
worked
in
one
myself.
You've
worked
in
one
been
too
many,
so
I
think
that's
really
a
great
thing
to
look
at
and
to
consider
and
then
also
if
we
can
get
some
of
the
co
D
topics
and
discussions
that
have
been
at
least
talked
about,
so
that
we
can
look
at
that
historic.
N
I
D
Gonna
start
with
Jeannie
Jeannie
will
be,
the
point.
Person
will
be
Jeannie
share,
sherry
and
myself.
Now.
What
I
need
to
is
consult
with
the
consultants
about
what
they're
gonna
do
so
just
and
I
think
it's
a
good
review
as
what
what
we're
gonna
do
is
the
downtown
Park
plan,
the
the
the
previous
work.
That's
been
done,
the
site,
details
and
capabilities
that
those
are
the
things
that
we're
gonna.
D
Do
please
please,
but
I
think
the
big
thing
for
refer
in
in
the
criteria
for
site
selection,
obviously,
is
yours
and
obviously
you
have
the
strategic
plan
Jeannie.
So
let
me
get
together.
Things
I
think
we
have
I'm
going,
get
them
at
you
immediately
and
then,
and
then,
let's
just
stay
in
close
contact.
I
would
also
note
that
again
in
a
councilmember
Middleton
reminded
me,
are
we
covered
by
the
Brown
Act?
D
My
sense
is:
we
are
not
you're,
not
a
Brown
Act
body,
which
means
you
can
communicate
freely
amongst
yourself
all
the
time
that
was
the
intent
I'm
going
to
confirm
that
with
the
city
attorney
tomorrow,
but
that's
my
belief
so
so,
unless
we
find
out
differently,
then
that's
gonna.
Put
us
into
a
little
different
pattern,
but
I
think
right
now
we're
okay
to
communicate
as
freely
as
we
care
to
do
so.
I
David,
actually,
the
City
Attorney
reached
out
to
me
it's
chair
of
the
trustees
and
because
I
do
have
that
role
instructed
to
Det.
We
were
not
allowed
to
share
anything
publicly
until
we
make
the
formal
recommendation
to
the
council,
so
in
other
words,
I
can't
go
to
the
trustees
and
say:
hey.
We've
decided
this
without
you
know
at
first
and
saying
that
we've
accepted
this
report,
that's
what
I
was
told.
So
how
would
that
that
was
kind
of
interesting
you're?
Looking
like
you're
a.
D
D
C
If
we
need
the
city
attorney
to
come
to
a
meeting
to
brief
this
group,
because
I
think
it's
a
question
about
process
and
integrity
of
the
group
and
really
a
decision
for
us
here
is:
do
we
want
to
follow
the
Brown
Act?
Do
it?
We
really
want
a
coherent,
transparent
public
process,
I
think
that
protects
the
decision
so
that,
when
you
come
with
the
excellent
report
and
findings
that
you're
gonna
bring
that
that
is,
you
know
unassailable
in
terms
of
the
work
that
you
did.
C
B
This
is
over
there's
going
to
be
a
recommendation,
that's
going
to
come
out
and
some
people
are
going
to
be
thrilled
without
recommendation
and
some
are
going
to
be
not
thrilled.
For
that
group.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they
immediately
say
but
I
got
my
voice,
hurt
every
opportunity
that
I
needed
to
be
able
to
express
my
point
of
view.
I
was
given
that
opportunity,
so
I
don't
know
who
the
folks
will
be
that'll
be
disappointed,
but
that
happens
in
every
public
policy
decision.
L
If
I
may
add
one
more
thing,
this
list
is
getting
quite
long.
The
information
that
you're
going
to
send
out
to
the
committee
and
I
don't
think
everything
on
the
list
is
as
relevant
as
the
next
thing,
so
my
caution
would
be
I've.
Looked
at,
we've
gone
over
all
the
old
proposals
with
with
Jeanne
all
the
way
from
1985
to
2013.
I
didn't
find
them
particularly
relevant
to
what
you're
doing
right
now.
I
know.
There's
there's
one
that
talks
about
expanding
the
building
to
about
60,000
square
feet.
L
I,
don't
know
where
that
came
from
60,
that's
a
huge
building
for
the
size
of
the
community.
I,
don't
know
where
that
came
from
there's
another
one
that
has
three
different
options
with
three
different
price
points:
I.
If
we
get
too
involved
in
figuring
those
out,
it's
gonna.
Stop
you
from
moving
forward
I,
don't
know
that
they
are
particularly
relevant
to
what
we're
trying
to
do
right
now.
So
one
I'm,
not
saying
don't,
read
them
I
would
say
I,
don't
think
it
would
be.
L
I
You
agree
that
maybe
some
more
that
detail
would
naturally
pop
ups
if
we
find
one
of
those
options
of
being
where
we
want
to
go
that
we
might
want
to
get
more
into
detail
if
we
decide
that
we
really
do
want,
for
example,
stay
at
the
current
facility.
Then
we
start
digging
into
more
of
the
history
of
what's
been
proposed.
Is
that
what
you're
suggesting
or
you
I'm.
L
Not
suggesting
that
that
would
be,
you
know
even
relevant
at
at
that
point.
They're
old
proposals
and
so
I
didn't
find
them
relevant
to
where
you're
going
right.
Now
that
they're,
talking
about
a
library
in
1989,
is
a
very
different
library
than
you're
talking
about,
and
so
there's
a
limited
amount
of
relevance
that
you're
going
to
find
in
that
proposal
even
ten
years
ago.
That's
a
different
library
than
you're
talking
about
moving
forward
and,
and
sometimes
they
weren't
very
specific.
M
H
I,
don't
agree,
the
only
reason
I
think
they're
useful
is
there's
going
back
to
a
history
of
how
the
building
didn't
function
within
ten
years
of
the
time
it
was
built
and
that
that
was
what
I
got
out
of
that
proposal
was
that
the
constraints
and
the
issues
I
wasn't
looking
at
it
on
the
board
of
trustees,
as
were
any
of
those
solutions
relevant
today.
But
what
was
the
history
here?
Not
just
that
we
want
to
build
a
fancy.
H
New
building,
I
think
we're
here,
because
the
trustees
and
the
library
in
the
city
have
been
working
with
the
building
that
hasn't
hasn't
worked
both
functionally
and
programmatically
for
quite
a
while
right.
So
I
only
looked
at
it
from
that
point
of
view,
I
didn't
want
rose-colored
glasses
on
the
current
building,
because
you
love
it.
K
Every
turn
so
could
our
next
meeting
be
because
Kathy,
you
have
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
I
can't
wait
until
I
catch
up
to
you,
but
it
could
it
could
our
next
SB
we
we
have
we're
gonna
get
the
Templar
we're
gonna,
get
their
recommendations.
We're
also
gonna
get
the
body
of
amazing
work.
That
has
happened
over
the
last
15
years
and
then
could
our
next
meeting
be
a
QA
to
you.
Based
on
that
information
of
what
we
read
and
be
able
to
say,
is
it
true?
I
F
Yeah
I
was
just
thinking
you
know,
I,
don't
have
enough
information
to
ask
any
questions
right
now,
I,
don't
know
enough
about
any
sites
and
I
was
sitting
there
thinking.
Oh
my
god.
What
did
I
do?
Why
did
I
agree
to
this
I
can't
think
of
a
single
thing
to
ask,
but
then,
as
we
started
going
through
it,
we
meet
that
base
information.
We
need
that
those
basic
things
that
we
need
to
know
about
each
site
in
order
to
even
may
have
questions
to
ask
I.
A
Appreciate
I
think
it
was
sue.
You
mention
your
very
process-oriented.
I
am
as
well
so
I
appreciate
the
steps
and
the
materials
that
were
expected
to
get
and
kind
of
highlighting
our
priority
reads:
it's
unclear
to
me
in
the
next
two
months
timeline
expectations.
If
there's
something
we
need
a
like
halfway
point,
we
need
to
be
here
by
half
I
mean
any
thoughts
or
notes.
Would.
M
It
be
helpful
to
tell
you
that
one
of
the
first
things
that
we're
gonna
do
after
we've
talked
to
the
staff.
It's
gonna
be
to
go
back
and
do
a
real,
quick
and
dirty
work
plan
here
are
the
milestones
here.
Are
the
meetings?
Here's
what
you
need
to
know
by
this
point
at
this
point
in
this
point,
I
mean
it's
not
going
to
be
elaborate,
it
won't
be
a
spreadsheet,
but
it'll
be
something
that
that
you
can
follow
and
we
can
say:
okay,
if
we're
stuck
here.
B
You
and
I'm
sorry,
mr.
Burkett
is
gone,
but
everyone
at
least
identifies
this
as
a
Cody
building,
and
the
architecture
is
beautiful.
Whether
it
is
functional
in
for
its
current
purposes
is
certainly
a
very
valid
question.
Don't
get
bogged
down
as
to
what
will
happen
if
you
decide
to
go
to
X
or
to
Y?
That
is
a
stunning
piece
of
architecture
in
a
city
that
treasures
architecture
and
we
will
find
a
appropriate
use.
That
is
public.
If
that
becomes
the
question.
C
So
in
the
interest
of
time,
so
if
we
can
wrap
up
so
it
sounds
like
and
you're
gonna
create
a
work
plan
and
then
work
with
city
staff
to
get
all
the
onboarding
metier,
the
most
important
onboarding
materials
that
you
identify
with
the
chair
that
was
based
on
our
discussion
today.
If
people
need
more
information
and
have
those
questions,
I
would
then
rate
prepare
those
and
raise
them,
and
so
then,
the
next
meeting,
based
on
the
work
plan,
can
be
designed
around
that
and
then
are
you
leading
the
the
process
for
that?
Please.
M
D
I
I
D
The
City
Council
meetings
will
be
October,
2nd
and
16th,
so
we
can
take
the
16th
it
I
would
say,
certainly
not
the
second,
probably
now,
here's
the
other
possibility
is
and
again
I.
Don't
wanna
speak
for
the
City
Council
that
this
it
would
be
a
potential
just
special
study
session
in
and
of
itself.
But
again,
then
again,
that's
for
like
pool
council
to
the
site.
It.
B
B
C
I
G
C
I
I
I
Drove
over
tonight
and
I
and
I
was
going
to
say
this
with
all
due
respect.
Everyone
around
this
table
we're
not
gonna,
probably
pick
a
day
where
everybody
can
be
there
and
if
you
have
to
with
this
time
frame,
I
think
we
just
have
to
say
we're.
Gonna
do
our
best
to
be
there,
and
if
you
can't,
let
me
know
and
I
will
be
available
to
keep
you
up
to
speed,
because
it's
it's
just
that
time
of
year,
so
I.
C
I
That
that's
my
feeling
that
we're
gonna
have
to
schedule
a
weekly
at
least
check-ins
and
phone
conversations,
and
if
not
personal
meetings
or
something
but
I,
think
that
that
gives
you
guys.
It
gives
them
time
to
gather
all
the
information
and
get
it
to
you.
Give
you
a
chance
to
read
it
and
then
I
want
to
build
in.
If
you
come
back
and
say
hey,
could
we
have
this?
I
can
distribute
that
right,
so
the
26
would
mean
everything
is
out
there.
I
G
H
F
A
F
I
N
H
M
I
C
K
C
Very
helpful
one
benefit
of
having
an
independent
process
is
that
it
will
be
not
seen
as
political
but
it'll
be
seen
as
independent.
So
I
know
that,
where
the
California
Voting
Rights
Act
working
group
did
independent
work,
I'm
really
distinct
from
the
City
Council,
so
that
the
process
is
protected
and
not
Christie
holstege
wants
X
for
a
building
is,
is
protecting
the
process,
so
I
think
we're
here.
C
For
you,
however,
we'd,
like
I'm,
happy
to
participate
in
the
next
meeting,
and
if
you,
if
you
want
our
kind
of
guidance
in
the
initial
stages,
but
I
do
think
probably-
and
it's
up
to
you
how
you'd
like
to
use
us
but
thinking
about
protecting
the
process
to
be
independent,
is
politically
beneficial.
I
think.
I
That
with
the
next
meeting
being
our
level
setting
meeting
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
because
then
you
know
where
we're
starting
from,
because
you
might
hear
something
there
and
say:
oh
no
or
I
haven't
thought
about
that
so
being
at
that
level
setting
and
then,
if
you
skip
a
meeting
at
least
you
know
we're
progressing
through
the
process.
Is
that
is
that?
Okay
is?
That?
Is
anyone
disagree
with
that?
I
mean
I.
Think
having
that
level
settings
gonna
be
really
helpful.