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City of Palm Springs Architectural Review Committee meeting, held, February 22nd, 2022
A
C
A
Okay,
can
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
so
moved?
Second
I'll?
Second,
that
thank
you
all,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed!
No!
Thank
you.
Since
this
is
a
public
hearing
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue.
That's
within
the
committee's
purview
comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
the
item
is
presented.
If
you
want
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda,
you
may
speak
now.
Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes.
A
C
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
mr,
and
we
had
two
items
on
the
consent
calendar.
It
was
the
minutes
as
well
as
the
premier
greens
sign
permit,
so
we've
approved
we
can
take
these
separately
if
you'd,
like
we've,
already
acted
on
the
minute,
so
we
can,
if,
if
there's
questions
or
would
you
the
committee
would
like
a
staff
report,
we
can
present
this
item.
Otherwise,
if
there
are
no
questions
or
concerns,
the
committee
could
take
this
as
an
approval.
A
You
you
have
a
second
second,
thank
you,
mr
mccoy,
all
those
in
favor
right
any
opposed.
Thank
you.
We
will
now
move
on
to
unfinished
business,
which
was
item
number
three
stack:
family
trust
owner
for
a
major
architectural
review,
application
for
the
construction
of
a
4122
square,
foot
single
family
house
on
a
hillside
lot
located
at
2368
city
view
drive.
E
So,
as
vice
chair
mentioned,
the
the
stack
residence
was
reviewed
by
the
arc
on
january
3rd
of
this
year
and
at
that
meeting
the
arc
recommended
a
continuance
and
gave
direction
to
the
applicant
to
look
at
several
different
items
on
revising
the
project
and
we're
going
to
go
through
those
one
by
one.
So
here
is
a
rendering
of
the
house.
E
So
if
you
remember,
one
of
them
was
that
the
garage
faces
the
street
and
the
design
guidelines
prefers
that
the
garage
be
side
loaded
so
that
the
door
does
not
face
the
street.
So
a
recommendation
of
the
ac
was
to
have
the
driveway
curve,
which
is
in
red
here
and
I'm
going
to
flip
to
the
this.
Is
the
revised
I'll
flip
to
the
previous?
So
in
the
previous
plan,
you'll
see
that
the
driveway
was
straight
into
the
garage
they've
curved
it
also.
E
The
previous
plan
did
not
show
the
area
where
the
trash
and
the
little
walkway
that
went
around
to
service
that,
and
then
there
were
some
revisions
that
were
made
to
the
pool
deck
you'll,
see
here
that
they've
added
some
hardscape
around
the
pool
deck
area
to
get
to
around
the
patios
to
get
to
the
pool.
So
moving
on
to
the
building
elevations,
there
were
questions
about
what
this
would
look
like
and
they
revised
the
plans
to
show
the
masonry
block
wall
with
the
gate,
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
garage
with
the
garage
door.
E
This
is
the
plan
before
and
that's
after
you'll
see
in
the
bottom
right.
It
also
shows,
when
you're
looking
at
it
from
the
rear
of
the
house,
the
new
wall
that
will
screen
the
equipment
and
the
garage
and
the
trash
enclosures,
and
then
there
was
another
revised
drawing
showing
the
rear
of
the
house.
I'm
sorry.
This
is
the
side
of
the
house
that
shows
the
wall,
the
mystery
wall
that
will
be
added
to
screen
the
equipment.
E
That's
the
previous
and
that's
the
revised
other
discussion
items
were
to
provide
some
cross
sections
that
show
how
the
site
slopes
and
you'll
see
that
in
this
drawing
it
shows
boulders
that
are
placed
at
the
edge
of
the
house
to
prevent
the
use
of
retaining
walls
and
so
forth,
and
also
it
shows
the
pool
location
and
how
this
flat
area
where
the
pool
is,
will
operate.
And
once
again
this
is
the
previous
looked
at
you'll
notice
that
we,
it
doesn't
show
the
boulders
area,
how
that
would
be
treated
versus
what
they're
proposing.
E
Now
there
was
discussion
of
lights
and
lighting
within
the
house,
and
there
was
discussion
of
of
blinds
and
how
that
would
be
treated
inside
the
house
itself
I'll.
Let
the
applicant
discuss
the
inside
lighting
you'll
notice
that
there
is
lighting
in
the
fascias
that
the
number
hasn't
changed
around
the
edge
of
the
house.
E
E
Solar
panel
placement
landscaping
was
also
another
issue
in
order
to
help
soften
the
front
garage
door.
They've
added
a
large
tree
here
that
will
help
screen
and
soften
the
view,
so
that
the
with
the
curve
of
the
driveway
and
the
new
trees
that
will
be
added
it
will
better
meet
the
guidelines
of
desert.
Palisades
they've
also
moved
some
larger
trees
around
so
that
there
are,
the
views
from
the
house
were
not
being
impeded,
and
you
know,
as
you
look
down
valley,
there's
great
views
from
that's
why
it's
called
city
view
drive.
E
You
can
see
the
city
below,
so
this
is
a
better
placement
of
trees
and
other
landscaping
than
we
saw
in
the
previous
plan.
I
don't
have
a
copy
of
it,
but
it's
it's
had
very
few
symbols
on
it.
So
this
is
a
much
more
fully
developed
plan
and
looking
at
lighting,
that
was
another
comment
about
the
sight
lighting.
The
sight
lighting
hasn't
changed
I'll.
Let
the
applicant
discuss
that.
However,
they
did
add
these
pathway
lights
along
the
front.
Sidewalk.
E
There's
a
grading
plan
that
that
has
not
changed
either
other
than
this
doesn't
accurately
reflect
the
curve
curvature
of
the
driveway.
But
it
does
show
how
the
right
hand
side
of
the
building
will
function
with
the
collection
of
the
boulder
so
that
there
is
no
need
for
retaining
walls,
and
they
did
provide
us
cross
sections
that
were
requested.
E
E
So
vice
chair
that
rottman-
that
concludes
my
report.
There
is
a
resolution.
That's
in
your
packet,
along
with
the
conditions
of
approval
that
will
be
adopted.
Should
the
arc
approve
the
project.
Just
to
remind
you.
This
is
a
second
review
from
the
arc,
so
you
can
either
approve.
You
can
approve
it
with
conditions
or
you
can
deny
the
project,
but
this,
as
you
know,
the
erc.
We
can
review
projects
twice.
B
E
My
understanding
that
that
and
I'll
have
the
applicant
address
that,
but
it
does
show
another
solar
panel
collection
if
they
need
to
in
increase
the
number
of
panels
versus
where
they're,
located
and
shown
on
the
back
of
the
house.
They
could
be
added
and
I'll.
Let
jamie
discuss
that
at
the
top
of
the
upper
portion.
A
F
F
We
we'd
hope
to
see
you
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
in
our
response
here,
but
we
did
go
out
and
and
get
some
incremental
vendor
support
for
the
landscaping
and
lighting
and
irrigation
plans,
which
we'd
done,
I
would
say
a
rudimentary
job
of
before,
and
we've
now
done
a
complete
job
of,
I
think,
we've
thoroughly
addressed.
We
had
a
detailed
list
from
the
meeting
notes
before
from
glen.
I
think
there
are
nine
or
ten
items
on
it
and
I
believe
we've
addressed
every
single
one
of
them
to
the
to
the
fullest
extent.
F
So
you
know
if
there
are
any
specific
questions
that
we're
happy
to
answer
them.
Specifically,
the
question
about
solar.
I
went
out
to
a
third
party
solar
provider
who
provided
us
the
renderings
based
on
two
different
iterations
iteration.
One
was
the
minimum
required
by
the
state,
which
is
what
is
shown
here
and
iteration.
Two
would
be
what
they
considered
sort
of
a
hundred
percent
power
coverage,
which
we
didn't
show
which
basically
would
cover
the
another
third
of
the
roof
assembly.
F
Okay
from
a
from
a
lighting
perspective
glenn,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
address
that
there
were
a
few
questions
about
interior
lights,
which
were
good
feedback
that
we've
considered.
We
actually
didn't
change
the
interior
lighting
plan,
but
certainly
we'll
intend
to
look
at
that
and
review
that
when
we
get
to
it
and
we
did
spec
the
exterior
lights
as
as
pretty
small
low
voltage
lights
again,
the
spirit
here
is
not
that
we
were
lit
up
on
the
hillside.
Far
from
it
and
the
exterior
landscaping
plan
again
was
pretty
rudimentary.
F
So
the
the
vendor
that
I
hired
to
do
that
plan.
I
think
we
removed
about
40
percent
of
the
exterior
landscaping
lights
and
spec
the
lights
again,
just
to
create
some
shadows
against
trees
and
rocks,
but
but
to
create
something.
That's
very
subtle
to
the
landscape,
where
our
intent
is
is
to
not
do
anything
other
than
that.
A
B
C
F
That's
exactly
what
it
is
from
fiero
did
that
work
for
us
and
that's
I
don't
know
what
you
call
that,
but
it's
a
water
receptacle,
that's
going
to
be
underground
there
to
support
drainage
from
the
lot.
I
you
probably
know
the
description
of
that
better
than
I
do
chris.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
help
me
with
that.
I
forget
what
they
call
that.
C
F
F
F
When
we
went
back
to
fiero
to
get
the
incremental
sections
done,
they
confirmed
that
that
slope
is
no
more
than
two
to
one
which
they
said
will
not
require
structural
support
like
retaining
walls
or
the
boulders,
in
fact,
but
we're
still
going
to
have
boulders
on
that
slope.
I
think
it's
the
most
natural
thing
to
do
for
the
landscaping
for
the
property.
F
So
there
were
a
couple
of
questions.
If
you
recall
six
weeks
ago,
when
we
did
that
one
was
how
steep
that
was,
and
if
we
needed
retaining
walls
or
boulders
to
support
it
technically,
the
answer
is
no,
but
we're
going
to
have
the
boulders
there.
I
I
think
the
reality,
of
course,
is
once
we
get
in
there
we'll
have
to
cluster,
maybe
slightly
differently
to
support
exactly
how
we
place
the
landscaping,
etc.
C
G
It
seems
as
though
a
little
more
care
and
embellishment
of
the
landscape
plan
pays
off
with
respect
to
the
treatment
of
the
driveway,
albeit
somewhat
the
same.
The
addition
of
the
of
the
supplemental
landscape
and
the
scale
of
the
landscape
makes
a
difference
as
well
as
the
entry.
Probably
the
only
thing,
and
it's
it's
it's
sort
of
a
footnote,
but
it
kind
of
haunts
me-
and
I
had
mentioned
last
time.
H
G
Know
in
elevation,
there's
kind
of
a
very
pure
and
consistent
eve
line
and
with
flush
frame
windows
and
I'm
just
sort
of
a
lot
of
times
in
the
evolution
of
a
design
and
and
the
construction
docks
with
a
need
for
hvac
softening
down.
I
I
would
be
curious
as
to
how
that
could
happen
without
lowering
some
of
these
window
head
heights
etc,
and
it
would
end
up
expressing
on
the
outside
of
the
building.
G
B
Yeah
hi:
this
is
chris
wallace.
I
don't
think
I
explained
it
too
well
last
time,
but
what
we
plan
on
using
are
mini
split
units
that
are
ductless,
so
you
have
a
unit
that
goes
in
this
in
the
ceiling
in
each
room
that
would
supply
the
hot,
the
warm
or
cold
air
for
each.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
ductless
system.
D
B
G
B
A
A
We
are
now
moving
on
to
new
business
item
number
four:
dj:
l
of
desert
inc
owner
for
a
major
architectural
application
to
construct
a
one-story
three-unit
apartment
building
on
an
undeveloped,
10
000
18
square
foot
parcel
located
at
517,
south
mountain
view
drive.
May
we
have
a
staff
report?
Please?
A
J
J
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
three
unit:
threeplex
apartment,
building,
approximately
3665
square
feet.
There
will
be
one
two
bedroom
unit
and
two
three
bedroom
units.
The
building
is
proposed
at
one
story
with
sufficient
parking
spaces,
they're
proposing
a
trash
enclosure
towards
the
front,
and
it
will
be
screened
by
a
stone
block
wall.
J
J
J
J
J
This
project
was
taken
to
planning
commission
in
december,
where
they
reviewed
and
gave
their
conditions.
They
did
condition
the
landscape
to
have
the
three
parking
lot
shade
trees
to
increase
to
36
inch
blocks.
They
wanted
the
applicant
to
replace
the
gran.
I'm
sorry
the
dg
with
a
three-fourth
gravel
base
covering
and
they
wanted
the
applicant
to
also
enhance
the
architecture
which
they
they
have.
J
C
C
A
J
A
A
H
G
Applicant
hi,
mr
chairman,
remember
walsh,
yeah.
I
think
I
do
it
just
a
clarification
on
the
drawings.
As
I
look
at
the
at
the
elevations
and
the
rendering
it
looks
like
there
is
a
a
resulting
roof
overhang
over
the
entries,
as
if
I
were
to
walk
in
towards
the
building.
Yes,
the
way
you
have
it
now
are
those
pilasters
or
columns
that
are
supporting
the
end
of
that
roof.
I
A
A
A
You
know,
actually
I
do
have
a
question
for
staff
before
we
go
on
so
on
the
site
plan.
It
looks
like
you've
got
the
curb.
You
have
a
green
belt,
you
have
the
sidewalk,
you
have
I'm
not
sure.
What's
beyond
that,
and
then
you
have
the
parking.
Can
can
you
to
actually
tell
us
what
what's
going
on
from
the
curb
back
to
the
property
line.
A
C
C
I
I
did
have
a
comment.
Well,
I
guess
two
things
in
looking
at
the
floor
plan
and
the
site
plan,
I
was
wondering
I
know
that
all
three
entry
doors
are
right
towards
the
face
of
the
building,
but
I
I
think,
there's
an
opportunity
to
develop
that
courtyard
a
little
bit
more
interesting
to
give
each
of
those
entries.
C
You
know
right
now.
It's
just
concrete
running
across
the
face
of
the
building
connecting
all
three
entry
doors
and
I
think,
with
the
space
that
they
have
in
that
courtyard,
there's
an
opportunity
to
maybe
make
a
break
between
some
of
those
and
and
give
the
feeling
of
a
more
separate
entrance
for
each
of
the
units.
C
The
symbols
that
are
showing
for
the
shrubs
are
are
not
quite
to
the
right
scale
for
the
actual
plant
growth
at
maturity,
and
I
think
that
those
need
to
be
looked
at
because,
based
on
the
size
of
the
symbols
that
they're
showing
I
I
believe,
there's
going
to
be
more
foundation,
plantings
or
shrubs
are
required
in
what's
currently
showing
on
the
plan.
If
they
bring
those
symbols
to
the
proper
size
and
scale.
A
Well,
I'll
throw
a
few
comments.
I
would
agree
with
you,
member
josie,
on
the
entry,
hardscape
and
landscape,
that
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
separate
the
three
entrances
in
some
way
as
opposed
to
having
them
all
access
from
a
I'll
call.
It
front
porch
and
I
think
I'd
like
if
it's
possible,
I
think
it
would
be
a
little
cleaner
if
those
posts
are
not
structural,
both
along
the
front
and
along
the
backyard
that
they
be
removed.
A
B
D
A
C
A
We
are
now
moving
on
to
item
number.
Five
allure
palm
springs,
llc
for
an
amendment
to
final
development
plans
where
planned
development,
district,
309
and
major
architectural
approval
for
the
construction
of
26,
single-family
residences
on
a
4.1
acre
parcel
located
at
the
southwest
corner
of
rosa
parks,
road
and
el
dorado
boulevard.
C
A
H
Yes,
okay,
all
right
once
again,
thank
you,
mr
chair
members
of
the
arc.
So
the
idea
you
have
before
yoona
is
what
we
call
final
development
plans.
So
I'm
going
to
take
some
few
steps
to
explain
how
this
process
is
reviewed
and
approved.
So
it
is
a
bifurcal
review.
First,
it
goes
before
the
planning
commission
for
approval,
and
then
it
comes
back
to
you.
Should
there
be
additional
comments
or
conditions?
Those
will
be.
Those
are
forwarded
to
you
and
this
will
be
discussed
and
presented
to
you
as
we
move
forward
with
this
presentation.
H
H
A
H
So
what
you
have
before
you
today,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
it
is
a
plant
development
district
that
was
amended,
and
the
planning
commission
has
already
reviewed
those
and
approved
them.
So
what
is
before
you
today
is
to
look
at
the
architecture,
the
design,
the
massing,
the
colors,
the
materials,
consistency
and
the
landscaping
that's
what's
before
you.
H
H
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
on,
a
track
map
was
originally
approved
in
2004
for
32
lots,
but
this
configuration
what
it
had
before
unit
has
reduced
to
32
laws
into
30
lots,
so
the
homes
that
are
being
proposed
will
consist
of
three
different
flaws
and
they
are
designated
as
plan.
One
plan
two
plan:
three:
each
of
these
plans.
We
have
three
different
elevations
known
as
elevation,
1,
1a
and
1b.
H
H
So
this
is
the
when
it
was
approved
in
2004.
This
was
the
original
site
plan
as
approved
again
it
borders
on
between
las
vegas,
road
and
radio
road.
So
there
is
an
internal.
The
main
access
into
the
development
is
along
las
vegas
road.
So
and
then
there
is
an
internal
driveway
in
the
inside.
The
development.
H
H
Now
this
is
this
is
comparing
the
original
of
the
previously
approved
sight
line
at
the
top,
and
the
one
that
is
being
proposed
now
so
here
are
the
logs
that
have
already
been
built.
Here
is
one
two
three
and
four,
so
these
four
are
existing.
So
if
you
were
to
go
to
this
site,
you
will
see
these
four
homes
at
the
sides.
H
H
H
H
These
are
other
elevations
of
plan,
one.
So
right
here
you
have
the
left
side
of
plan,
one.
These
are
the
area
views
and
then
the
left
elevation,
the
right
elevation
and
then
more
aerial
elevation.
I
will
run
through
this
real
quick.
They
are
exactly
the
same
as
what
you
have
in
the
package
that
I
distributed
to
you
earlier.
H
H
H
Let's
adjust
the
elevations
again
to
the
left
and
then
this
perspective
shows
unit
b
in
the
original
approve.
So
you
can
see
the
difference
between
the
newly
proposed
and
then
the
previously
approved
plans
that
were
not
built
so
for
that
elevations
and
again
so
these
are
elevations
of
we
previously
approved,
but
we
are
never
built.
H
H
They
were
generally
pleased
with
the
architecture
of
the
design
and,
of
course,
the
materials
particular
the
paintings,
and
these
are
the
materials
for
plant
two
plant.
Three
and
again,
this
is
unit
c,
which
represents
the
plant
three
of
the
proposed
platforms
so
again
to
the
right
is
the
perspective
of
unit
c
that
was
previously
approved
in
2004,
so
these
are
more
elevations.
These
are
just
exactly
the
same
one
as
containing
the
packages
sent
to
you
last
week.
H
H
Just
wanted
to
show
you
a
point
of
reference
of
what's
been
proposed
vessels
what
was
previously
approved
on
the
site
at
the
meeting
of
january
26,
the
planning
commission
added
some
conditions
to
the
to
the
plan,
and
they
include
that
the
applicants
are
required
to
install
sufficient
trees
to
construe,
create
shade,
shaped
canopy
along
rosa
rosa
parks
and
radio
rooms,
and
also
that
the
applicant
to
select
three
three
varieties
that
are
resistant
to
wind
diseases
and
other
desert.
Trickling
elements.
H
H
The
applicant
was
also
asked
to
install
a
dense,
quick,
growing
and
pedestrian
friendly
vines,
preferably
the
caliandra
on
the
walls
along
rosa
parks
and
radio
road.
The
applicant
has
already
has
already
met
these
conditions,
so
any
plans
that
the
applicant
proposed
there
were
only
two
units
and
two
lots
that
had
adu
units.
H
H
And
those
those
comments
centered
mostly
around
the
perimeter
of
the
project
along
radio
and
rosa
parks
and
radio
road,
the
the
commission
will
let
the
the
applicant
to
install
trees
that
are
capable
of
creating
shade
shading
along
rosa
park
and,
of
course,
radio
road
and
then
on
the
walls
on
the
existing
wall
to
to
prevent,
to
avoid
vandalism,
to
install
vines
that
will
soften
the
appearance
of
the
wall.
The
applicant
also
agreed
to
do
that.
H
H
H
Mr
cedar
will
conclude
the
staff
presentation.
Our
recommendation
is
to
approve
the
project
has
proposed
with
the
added
conditions
of
the
planning
commission
and
if
there
should
be
any
added
commission
from
the
arc
to
be
added
into
the
project,
staff
is
available
for
questions.
The
applicants
and
the
landscape.
Architect
are
available
to
answer
further
questions
and,
of
course,
to
make
presentations
to
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
G
H
G
H
A
H
H
B
H
So
it
will
appear
that
there
has
to
be
a
coordination
between
the
developer
and
the
homeowners.
So
so
this
hearing
went
through
two
processes
at
the
planning
commission
and
in
one
of
in
the
original
planning
planning
commission
hearing.
We
actually
had
one
of
the
homeowners
who
spoke
at
the
meeting
and
at
least
she's
speaking
for
herself.
She
was
in
agreement
with
that
proposal
that
they
will
be
working
with
the
developer
to
repaint
their
home.
So
I
don't
know
about
the
rest
three,
but
the
the
developer
will
have
to
coordinate
with
those
homeowners.
H
B
B
A
Wow,
I
believe
that
I
I
can.
I
believe
that
there's
a
general
feeling
in
the
city
that
they're
not
the
gated
communities
and
I
think
the
intent
is
that
and
correct
me
or
if
I'm
wrong
staff,
but
the
intent
is
that
it's
still
remain
open
somewhat,
but
still
by
being
able
to
lock
it
at
night.
You
can
provide
the
security
you
know
for
the
development,
but
that
it's
open
during
the
day
for
the
public
to
go
through.
H
A
I
I
As
you
can
see
on
the
site
plan,
some
of
them
would
probably
be
a
bit
problematic
or
they'd,
be
very,
very
small
and
probably
not
enough
to
accommodate
a
kitchenette.
I
thought
that
they
just
wanted
kitchenettes
to
be
included,
but
as
far
as
that's
concerned,
I
think
we
might
want
to
get
a
little
bit
more
clarity
on
it.
Some
of
your
comments
about
the
gates
and
so
forth.
I
I
So
we've
we've
gone
to
exhaustive
lengths
to
try
and
create
view
corridors
for
every
house
within
the
development
to
share
this
view.
Obviously,
there'll
be
obstructions
from
trees
and
other
structures.
Things
like
that,
but
the
main
living
area
of
the
house
of
each
house
will
be
directed
towards
this
view,
which
we
think
is
important.
I
It's
very
dramatic
site,
if
you
you're
to
go
to
the
site
and
stand
out
there,
it's
it's
really
quite
quite
an
impact
so
anyhow,
instead
of
carrying
on
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
back
over
to
edward.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
alan
sanborn
is
also
available.
He's
the
architect
for
the
project.
If
you
have
any
questions
he's
available
as
well.
A
A
B
I
I
It's
an
angled
wall
with
a
triangular
it's
a
it's
multiple
angles
involved
opens
up
the
view
from
the
inside,
so
the
wall
is
splayed
out
at
an
angle
and
it
has
a
column.
That's
sitting
on
top
of
the
right
corner
of
the
garage
to
support
the
angular
piece
above
okay
and
then
the
wall,
the
the
sight
wall
terminates
to
the
inside
portion
of
it,
and
then
you
can
see
the
entry
gate
there
to
get
into
the
courtyard.
A
A
I
A
I
A
I
A
G
Mr
chairman,
yes
I
had
that
immediate
observation,
it's
you
you.
It
is
understandable
from
the
site
plan
when
you
look
at
this
thing
and
mass
that
you
are
focusing
on
the
view,
and
yes,
of
course
it
is
a
double-edged
sword,
but
the
the
kind
of
the
the
losing
end
of
that
is.
I
I
would
find
pretty
unacceptable
in
terms
of
unprotected
huge
amounts
of
glass
there.
It
looks
to
me
offhand
as
though
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
do
two
things.
G
G
You
know
oftentimes
as
these
projects
age,
you
see,
ad
hoc
solutions,
kind
of
thrown
into
the
mix
and
and
they
tend
to
be
not
necessarily
coordinated,
architecturally
at
all
and
that
may
be
controlled
by
homeowner
associations.
I
don't
know,
but
this
looks
to
have
an
integrated
problem
that
that
hasn't
been
fully
resolved.
I
Yes,
I
think
your
comments.
There
are
well
recepted.
I
think
the
the
solution
would
be
maybe
an
eyebrow
on
maybe
the
plan
1b
and
maybe
just
extend
the
overhangs
a
little
bit
further.
I
mean
there's
really
the
sun's
going
to
be
just
the
direction
they're
facing
to
to
take
advantage
of
the
view
the
sun
will
definitely
be
for
any
house
facing
that
direction
will
be
more
as
compared
to
facing
a
different
direction.
But
the
point
is
we
can
enhance
the
overhang.
I
The
houses
are
going
to
have
more
current
insulation
on
the
roofs,
the
glazing
on
the
windows,
the
solar
band,
low
e
and,
of
course,
the
solar
panels
help
people
to
where
they
can
keep
their
houses
cooler
nowadays.
So
I
think,
with
the
insulation
and
a
lot
of
the
other
things
that
we're
doing
on
the
house
is
now
it
helps
quite
a
bit,
but
I
do
I
don't
disagree
with
you
on
enhancing,
potentially
maybe
adding
another
foot
or
two
onto
the
the
overhang
areas
that
that's
kind
of
what
you're
getting
at
correct.
G
That
that
is
what
I'm
getting
at,
and
a
couple
things
to
remember
is
that
sometimes
when,
when
there
are
peak
hours
where
no
you
no
matter
how
much
tonnage
you
throw
at
it,
you
can't
catch
up,
and
when
I
see
this
level
of
of
unprotected
exposure
that
many
times
invites
it.
The
second
I
would
kind
of
share
with
you
is.
I
think
that
there's
a
side
benefit
to
fixing
this,
and
that
is
you
get
an
understandable
articulation
of
the
elevation.
G
I
Yeah,
I
think
we
can.
I
know
that
we're
trying
to
avoid
a
low
structure,
because
the
view
is
more
of
an
imax
type
view,
I
guess
you'd
say
from
the
site
so
you're.
If,
for
example,
if
we
did
an
extended
canopy
or
some
sort
of
shade
structure
at
the
10
foot
height,
let's
say
at
the
multi-slide
doors
it
would
cut
off.
I
Almost
all
your
view,
you
just
you,
wouldn't
see
the
mountain
in
the
distance,
so
I
think
the
the
best
solution
which
we've
been
doing
on
homes
throughout
the
valley
that
are
southwest
facing
or
west
facing
would
be
just
to
you
know,
do
the
best
we
can
on
the
on
the
upper
roof
with
a
projection
and
increase
increase
that
to
offset
maybe
the
height
difference
of
a
lower
structure.
So
I
do
think
that
that's
something
that
we
could.
E
I
B
I
So
between
that
the
high
efficiency
condensers
and
some
good
tonnage
on
these
units
and
the
solar
panels,
people
would
have
a
relatively
low
electric
bill
and
some
people
may
opt
to
go
net.
Zero
homes
are
all
led
lit,
of
course,
so
a
lot
of
the
new
lighting
and
different
things
for
the
appliances
and
so
forth.
So,
theoretically,
somebody
could
turn
one
of
these
into
a
net
zero,
with
an
adequate
amount
of
solar
panels
and.
B
A
I
have
another
question
on
plant
three,
which
was
you
don't
have
to
move
it.
This
is
the
elevation
on
the
left,
you've,
the
from
the
street
view.
You
have
just
basically
solid
wall
and,
if
I'm
understanding
you
have
about
a
12-foot
ceiling
in
that
what
is
now
the
living,
dining
and
kitchen
have
you
thought
about
maybe
putting
some
clear
story
windows
across
the
top
of
the
kitchen,
because
you
have
a
lot.
E
A
I
Yeah
I
mean
we,
we
thought
about
doing
that
initially,
but
the
trusses,
depending
on
the
depth
of
the
truss
and
the
slope
of
the
roof
and
all
the
things
sometimes
that
window
looks
a
little
bit
funny
in
those
and
and
those
are
that's
an
architectural
feature
that
wall,
so
it
has
to
cut
a
window
into
it,
will
disrupt
those
that
the
raked
look.
I
guess
you'd
call
it
on
that
front
feature.
So
the
other
thing
too,
is
title
24
on
the
amount
of
windows.
I
I
Just
from
that
perspective
because
we
haven't
had,
we
haven't,
had
the
homes
engineered
yet,
but
I
do
think
a
clear
story
window
would
be
fine
or
maybe
squares
or
something
that
could
be
artfully
designed
to
match
the
the
arc
that
you
know
the
design
of
the
front
element
and
not
interfere
with
the
raked.
Look.
A
I
A
I
B
I
think
it
overall
looks
pretty
nice
the
complex
of
the
project.
I
really
don't
have
any
qualms
with
anything.
I
think
that
the
the
windows
that
you're
talking
about
would
be
a
nice
element,
but
I'm
not
opposed
to
not
having
him
there
either.
I
think
it's
a
nice
plane.
Actually,
I
really
don't
have
anything
to
to
add
or
say.
D
D
It
gives
a
lot
of
ideas
and
incentives
to
other
projects
in
the
area
as
to
what
can
be
done,
I
think
they
plant
choices
with
wind
and
all
they
did
a
very
nice
job
on
that.
So
one
thing
I
will
revisit
what
you
were
talking
about
on
on
plan,
one
with
that
overhang.
I
would
concur
that.
That's
it's
a
little
odd,
I'm
not
sure
how
water
will
run
off
of
it
and
what
it
will
look
like
over
the
years
with
the
the
height
of
that
at
the
street.
D
B
A
Remember
walsh,
any
comments,
nothing
further
I'll
I'll
be
the
spoiler.
So
I
think
I
think
it's
got
great
potential.
I
think
the
overall
scale
of
the
individual
houses
in
relation
to
the
density
and
how
close
they
are
is
a
little
bit
it.
The
the
scale
of
the
houses
seem
a
little
bit
large
for
the
for
the
density,
and
by
that
I
think
we,
the
heights
of
the
buildings,
are
a
little
too
tall.
A
We
he
addressed
some
of
the
scale
issues
and
the
plant
on
issues
that
I'm
I'm
raising.
I
think
the
landscaping
looks
great
and
that
we
get
some
clarification
about
the
adus
and
where
you
know
whether
they
need
to
be
accommodated
on
each
lot
on
each
parcel
or
just
a
certain
percentage
of
parcels.
Just
how
that
all
resolves
so
I'd
make
a
motion
to
have
them
return
to
us
to
continue
it
and
address
some
of
the
issues.
The
committee's
raised.