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From YouTube: City Council Meeting | Nov 28 2022
Description
Regular meeting of the Palm Springs City Council, held November 28th, 2022
This broadcast will also include a report on the Closed Session meeting of Nov 28th
A
Good
evening,
everyone
I
hereby
call
to
order
the
Palm
Springs
regular
city
council,
meeting
of
November
28
2022.
First
order
of
business
is
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance,
and
this
evening
we
are
joined
by
troop
262.
That
will
lead
us
through
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
I,
invite
everyone
to
stand
and
the
troop
to
come
forward.
B
B
A
C
A
So
the
next
item
is
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
The
city
council
will
discuss
the
order
of
the
agenda.
May
amend
the
order
of
the
agenda,
add
urgency,
items,
note,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
consent.
Calendar
items
excuse
me,
are
request,
consent,
calendar
items
to
be
removed
for
a
separate
discussion.
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
for
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
items
that
staff
or
a
council
member
would
like
remove
from
the
consent
calendar
for
separate
discussion
or
vote?
A
F
Polling
consent.
Yes,
so.
F
A
A
A
At
this
time,
I'd
next
item
is
a
report
of
closed
session
and
I.
Invite
City
attorney
Ballinger
to
provide
a
report
on
closed
session
and
Mr.
Bellinger
is
observing
coveted
precautions
and
will
not
be
present
in
the
room
with
us
this
evening.
G
G
There
was
no
reportable
action,
however,
the
city
Wishes
the
public
to
be
aware
that
on
the
item
involving
real
property
negotiations,
the
the
one
item
that
had
a
number
of
real
property
descriptions
and
addresses
that
item
came
about
as
a
result
of
the
city's
requirement
under
state
law
to
bring
forward
an
inventory
list
of
all
of
its
properties,
which
the
city
will
be
doing
at
the
December
5th
meeting
next
week,
and
so
the
closed
session
was
really
a
preliminary
step
to
that
legally
required
process.
Thank
you.
A
Cute,
so
with
that,
the
next
item
is
public.
Testimony.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
City
Council
on
non-public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
You
are
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you
are
speaking
about.
Please
note:
the
testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing
and
general
public
comments
for
subjects
not
on
the
agenda
will
be
taken
later
in
the
evening
city
clerk.
Please
begin.
I
I
have
operated
over
the
last
22
years,
an
adult
business
in
Los
Angeles,
and
it's
been
successful.
It's
called
it's
an
adult
oriented
men's
club
in
the
area
of
Silver
Lake
when
I
started.
This
club
I
was
working
with
Chief
Bernard
parks
of
LAPD
on
a
gay
and
lesbian
task
force
to
stop
the
violence
in
Silver
Lake
on
patrons
coming
out
of
bars.
I
So
as
a
result,
I
had
connections
into
the
police
department
and
there
were
a
number
of
operating
businesses
that
did
not
have
licenses
in
the
area,
and
these
were
adult
businesses,
and
so
I
I
realized
that
maybe
there
was
a
need
for
a
a
legal
Club
somewhere
near
Silver,
Lake
and
so
I
asked
the
detective
in
the
LAPD
and
a
building
and
safety
inspector
to
help
me
find
that
building
I
found
it.
I
It
was
550
feet
from
a
school
and
I
managed
to
get
the
club
open
now
currently
I'm,
surrounded
by
schools,
but
my
business
is
there.
Grandfathered
in
I've
worked
with
the
health
department
in
Los
Angeles
to
address
various
issues,
sexually
transmitted
diseases
and
monkey
pox.
We
had
vaccination
sites
in
our
parking
lot
and
so
I
I
have
a
building
here
at
541,
East
industrial
place.
It's
the.
J
Thank
you.
My
name
is
John
McBain
I
am
a
small
business
owner
here
in
Palm
Springs
I'm
speaking
today
in
support
of
3B.
My
business
is
not
currently
regulated
by
this
ordinance,
but
I
feel
is
important.
Important
to
show
the
support
I
feel
we
need
to
be
proactive
in
our
efforts
to
update
our
city.
Charter
I
also
do
not
feel
it
is
necessary
to
have
additional
laws
on
the
books
that
are
stricter
than
state
law
that
appear
to
be
working.
J
K
Federal
mayor
council
members
hi
again
just
calling
about
the
Street
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
that
you
guys
have
before
you
today
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
sense
of
what
it's
like
for
those
of
us
who
are
business
owners,
brick
and
mortar.
K
The
spirit
of
the
law
from
the
state
makes
sense,
and
why
it's
there,
however,
what
it
also
does?
Is
it
it?
We
are
not
we
don't
have
to
go
through.
We
have
to
go
through
so
much
more
than
whatever
sidewalk
vendor
would
have
to
do.
Currently.
There's
a
new
sidewalk
vendor
in
our
district.
K
The
vending
gets
bigger.
The
signage
is
there
there's
smoke
that
comes
from
the
charcoal
that
infiltrates
all
of
the
parklet
and
the
the
inside
of
our
restaurant.
K
They
don't
have
to
go
through
the
same
rules
that
we
do.
I
currently
pay
1.85
a
square
foot
a
month
for
the
parklet
and
their
caddy
corner
from
us,
and
they
don't
have
to
pay
anything
in
that
parklet.
We
have
strong
ordinance
rules
that
we've
actually
worked
through
with
the
city
on
that
we
have
to
follow
through
on
in
terms
of
what
we
can
do
legally
aesthetically.
K
L
Hello
city
council.
Thank
you
very
much
from
letting
us
get
up
into
this
at
night
on
the
3B
issue.
Also
I'm
in
favor
of
this
I,
like
the
expansion
of
the
amount
of
space
that
we
could
actually
have
in
our
Stores
I'd
have
to
I
think
it's
10
or
20
of
the
store
right
now
and
I
can
add
another
10
to
that.
L
M
This
is
for
number
L
and
three
A
and
B
Michael
Joseph
Pitkin
my
experience,
Palm
Spring
labels
all
unhoused
as
drug
addicts.
Tobacco
is
considered
a
coping
mechanism
adopted
by
the
lgbtq
community
due
to
discrimination.
The
community
also
cope
by
using
drugs
and
sex
human
companionship
and
touch
is
vital
to
survival
for
each
and
every
one
of
us.
A
sex,
positive
environment
and
harm
reduction,
combat
stigma
and
shame
harm
reduction
programs
should
have
Federal
protections
under
public
health
and
physician
care
without
fear
of
arrest
or
retaliation.
M
People
who
hate
crime
against
the
LGBT
are
the
addicts
they
get
a
high
off
of
causing
fear.
According
to
the
fight
magazine,
U.S
Supreme
Court
2003
ruling
invalidated
sodomy
laws
Nationwide.
Yet
many
states
still
label
individuals,
sex
offenders,
persecuting
lgbtq
individuals,
subjecting
them
to
intrusion
punishment
and
public
humiliation
for
the
crime
of
having
same-sex
relations
more
so
for
black
indigenous
and
people
of
color
and
those
with
intersecting
identities.
President
Biden
signed
executive
order
preventing
and
combating
discrimination
on
the
basis
of
gender
identity
or
sexual
orientation.
M
U.S
Congress
equality
act
ensures
lgbtq
individuals
and
families
cannot
be
denied
housing,
employment,
education,
credit
because
of
who
they
are
or
who
they
love.
This
includes
transgender
non-binary
and
gender
non-conforming
people
in
1980,
Boise,
Idaho
etholi,
a
gay
bar.
You
could
pick
up
a
hersa
CDC,
safe
sex
flyer.
50
years
later,
you
can
still
pick
up
that
same
flyer
with
the
same
Antiquated
message
today:
I
protest,
limited
HIV
and
STI
cure
allocations.
In
the
last
50
years,
I
have
been
involved
in
the
HIV
commissions
of
Oregon
San,
Francisco,
Los,
Angeles,
Idaho,
Reno
and
Las
Vegas.
D
N
Good
evening
Marion
Council,
I'm
speaking
on
item
3A,
I'm
Bruce
hubbin,
one
of
the
co-founders
of
refund,
as
mayor
Middleton,
is
often
stated.
Good
legislation
is
when
all
parties
are
not
100
happy
so
mayor
Middleton.
That
would
normally
be
true,
but
the
city
got
rid
of
vacation
rental
parties
in
2017..
N
There
are
no
parties,
I
know
I,
know,
that's
a
really
bad
pun
play
on
the
word
parties
blame
my
father.
It's
genetic
tonight
you
are
voting
to
enact
new
restrictions
or
concepts,
several
of
which
are
again
probably
the
first
in
the
state
or
country
that
V
Iran
is
aware
of
it's
now
of
Iran
to
the
hospitality
and
the
real
estate
community's
obligation
to
closely
watch
the
impacts.
Maybe
some
maybe
none
to
monitor.
The
impacts,
though,
will
require
the
office
of
special
program,
compliance
to
immediately
start
implementing
new
types
of
collection,
information
and
reports.
N
Luckily
they
have
upgraded
their
database
and
their
software
and
should
be
able
to
do
this.
For
example,
neighborhoods
at
a
20
percent
density
limit.
The
Realtors
need
to
know
every
week
where
those
limits
are
so
they
can
tell
their
buyers.
Are
there
any
changes
in
property
values
of
those
neighborhoods
Junior
permits?
Will
they
have
a
higher
or
lower
complaint
calls
or
citations?
N
We
will
submit
reasonable
suggestions
to
the
city
for
reporting
and
at
a
hundred
thousand
one
thousand
dollars
per
year
for
a
full
permit.
The
city
has
the
funding
from
our
permit
fees,
so
our
goal
is
to
ask
for
reports
and
get
the
support
of
the
new
incoming
city
council
to
support
this,
so
we
can
monitor
these
effects
over
the
years.
Thank
you.
O
In
phone
call,
so
he
may
be
having
trouble
with
the
with
the
phone
servers.
P
Here
speaking
on
item
3C
I
work
in
support
of
small
businesses
and
sidewalk
vendors
worked
on
Statewide
legislation,
supporting
improvements
to
the
permitting
system
for
vendors
and
I,
wanted
to
speak
today
on
the
proposed
ordinance
and
ask
and
respectfully
request
that
there
be
further
research
and
support
and
involvement
of
the
community
in
drafting
the
ordinance
and
that
there
be
a
tabling
of
the
ordinance
until
the
ordinance
is
actually
in
compliance
with
the
state
law,
SB
946
and
also
with
the
upcoming
new
implementation
of
the
state
law.
Sb
972.
P
The
current
proposed
ordinance
currently
has
overly
restrictive
times
that
are
discriminatory
to
these
small
businesses
when
compared
to
other
other
locate
businesses
located
nearby.
The
ordinance
also
has
recommendations
of
scam
policies
and
background
checks
that
aren't
necessarily
a
requirement
for
all
businesses
and
therefore
discriminatory
as
well.
There
are
a
number
of
other
Provisions,
such
as
a
possible
encroachment
permit,
which
is
about
Seventeen
hundred
dollars
for
the
cost
of
the
permit.
P
This
is
for
a
population
that
makes
roughly
fifteen
to
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
and
therefore
I
asked
the
city
council
take
more
time
to
consider
the
provisions
in
the
currently
drafted
ordinance
and
take
our
time
to
make
sure
that
the
impetus
behind
this
ordinance
is
actually
there
to
support
a
community.
That
is
enlightening
our
communities,
a
community
that
enriches
not
just
in
economic
terms
but
in
cultural
terms,
in
safety
and
Welfare
for
all
of
our
communities.
The
city
of
Palm
Springs
can
do
so
much
better
than
the
ordinance
as
proposed.
Now.
Thank
you.
E
Mayor
city
council,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
I
wanted
to
raise
your
attention
to
a
change
that
is
proposed
in
the
ordinance
regarding
how
couples
are
treated
with
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
change.
The
current
proposed
change
creates
a
situation
where
married
couples
are
discriminated
against
versus
regular
unmarried
couples.
My
husband
went
and
bought
a
house
in
Palm
Springs
after
I,
bought
mine
and
followed
everything
in
the
ordinance
to
make
sure
that
he's
in
compliance.
E
We
both
heavily
invested
in
each
of
our
houses
and
spent
a
lot
of
resources
in
the
local
economy,
which
you
know
we're
very
excited
about.
We
love
Palm
Springs.
If
the
proposed
rule
goes
through,
we
may
need
to
get
divorced
in
order
to
comply
with
the
law,
or
my
husband
may
need
to
sell
his
house
at
a
huge
loss
at
this
point,
which
could
be
hundreds
of
thousands
or
Millions.
E
E
If
you
decide
to
move
forward
anyway,
I
beg
you
to
at
least
exempt
current
holders
from
this
role.
The
office
of
special
compliance
told
us
that
this
was
the
intention
all
along,
but
we'd
sleep
much
better
at
night.
Knowing
that
it's
addressed
formally,
this
could
be
easily
done
the
following
paragraph
right
after
it
mentions
that
ownership
requirements
only
apply
to
new
permit
holders
from
2000
from
2017
onwards.
E
Q
Council
mayor
I'm,
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
restaurant
industry
and
businesses
in
general,
in
Palm
Springs,
you
know
speaking.
We
have
lulus
and
we're
one
of
the
main
restaurants
in
in
the
city,
we're
not
afraid
of
competition,
but
we
would
like
a
Level
Playing
Field,
so
the
regulations
should
equalize
the
playing
field.
We
have
no
issues
if
small
businesses
want
to
get
a
head
start
and
start
your
business,
but
from
what
I
understand
a
lot
of
these
vendors
are
a
big
out
of
town
businesses
that
are
putting
employees.
Q
A
Right
did
was
there
another
attempt
to
reach
Mr
Tyson.
A
The
next
item
is
the
consent.
Calendar
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
consent
calendar
without
item
one
F,
which
was
removed
for
separate
discussion.
Do
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
C
A
So
item
one
F
was
removed
for
separate
discussion
staff
report.
Please.
F
For
the
city,
you
want
me
just
to
explain
my
question
that
might
be
easier,
I'm,
happy,
yeah
and
I
know.
We've
discussed
this
issue
in
the
past
when
we're
doing
business
with
entities
in
States
that
ban
things
that
aren't
allowed
under
our
equal
benefit.
Ordinance
like
gender,
firm
and
Care,
is
in
the
case
of
Florida,
and
so
I
thought
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about.
We
might
want
our
City
attorney
on,
for
this
was
in
when
we
have
those
situations
you
know
getting
more
from
the
business.
R
R
F
Yes
and
yes,
so
I
think
what
we
talk,
I
think
what
we
talked
about,
probably
even
before
you
might
have
even
been
here,
but
was
obviously
if
it's
in
California
there
are
no
issues
right.
California
already
has
the
same
level.
We
do
right
exactly
the
same,
but
in
states
where
we
know,
for
example,
that
Health
policies
would
not
be
able
to
provide
equal
benefits.
F
So
I
think
we
can
get
you
a
list
of
states
where
you
know
we
have
these
anti-lgbt
laws
primarily
targeting
transgender
youth
is
the
bulk
of
them
and
in
that
case,
we'd
probably
want
to
check
their
health
insurance
right.
If
there
are
other
issues
that
come
up,
we'd
want
to
check
in
those
States.
F
Oh
sorry,
I
was
going
to
say
you
know
signing
something.
You
know
some
cities
like
San
Francisco
they
have
to
ever.
They
have
to
send
every
one
of
their
employment
policies.
We
don't
want
to
do
that,
so
we
were
doing
it
on
trust,
but
if
we
know
the
state
doesn't
allow
it
I
think
is
when
we
need
to
do
a
little
more
digging.
R
And
what
I
was
going
to
say
is
you
know
like
all
the
employees
we
deal
with
are
here?
They
live
here
in
Southern
California,
so
we
often
don't
think
about
them
as
being
from
somewhere
else
they're
headquartered
in
Florida,
you're,
correct,
but
all
the
employees
we
deal
with
live
in
Southern
California.
R
A
If
I
could
expand
on
that,
certainly
gender
confirming
care
and
gender
identity
care
is
is
an
issue
in
many
locations.
We
also
have
many
states
that
do
not
provide
for
full
reproductive
care.
A
We
have
States
for
which
abortions
have
been
banned,
and
we
have
Employers
in
many
of
those
states
that
have
made
it
clear
that
they
will
provide
transportation
free
of
charge
to
their
employees
so
that
they
can
access
care
that
is
prohibited
in
the
states
that
they
are
in
I
at
minimum,
want
to
know
whether
or
not
and
someone
we're
Contracting
with
makes
transportation
and
Health
Care
available
to
their
employees
so
that
they
can
and
families
so
that
they
can
seek
care.
A
F
Yeah
so
and
I
think
they're
two
different
issues,
as
the
City
attorney
advised
me
today.
So
one
is
what
our
current
Law
requires,
which
is,
if
the
benefits
offered
to
anyone,
it
has
to
be
offered
right
to
everyone,
including
for
gender
identity,
related
care.
Then
there's
whether
we
want
to
require
contractors
to
provide
health
insurance,
whether
we
want
to
include
that
health
insurance
to
include
abortion
care,
which
would
be
a
separate
ordinance
which
we
could
ask
to
have
brought
back
so
I
think
those
are
they're
related.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
A
F
G
A
And
we
appreciate
the
predicament
that
you're
in
in
trying
to
efficiently
contract
for
services
and
is
is
unfortunate
that
many
of
our
colleagues
in
other
states
have
chosen
a
course
that
does
not
provide
full
on
discriminatory
care
to
all
of
their
residents.
R
Is
we've
been
using
Office
Depot
ODC
for
a
long
time,
so
we
are
bringing
it
forward
to
make
it
more
transparent,
with
what
we're
doing
and
actually
start
issuing
purchase
orders
for
these
supplies
right
now
they
go
through
a
claim,
voucher
process,
and
so
we're
just
trying
to
make
it
a
lot
more
transparent
to
you
know
the
fact
that
these
purchases
have
been
going
on
for
quite
a
while
and
make
it
you
know
to
have
an
actual
contract
in
place
and
purchase
orders
in
place
so
that
it's
it's
a
lot
more
transparent
to
the
public
and
to
the
council.
A
Okay,
us
any
other
comments.
F
Yeah
just
a
suggestion
for
the
city,
manager
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
do
it
at
our
next
meeting
or
not,
but
sort
of
to
actually
gendize
what
kind
of
guidance
right
if
all
the
employees
working
on
the
contract
live
in
California
with
that
be
allowed
right
things.
So
maybe
we
just
have
that
as
a
discussion
item,
so
we
can
give
that
kind
of
guidance.
F
With
it
on
the
agenda,
because
I
know,
we
can't
get
too
much
too
much
guidance
now
we
can
so
maybe
continue
this
one
until
next.
S
A
F
A
H
A
D
Five
I
zero
knows
motion
passes
Madam
mayor
Frank
Tyson
is
back
on
the
line.
If
you'd
like
to
take
his
public
comments.
T
Okay,
this
is
Frank
Tyson
I
deeply
concerned
about
the
sexual
business
rules.
Changes
first
of
all,
I
want
to
point
out
I'm
not
approved
for
many
years.
I
was
a
member
of
Allegiant
Fields,
the
nudist
colony
in
Topanga,
but
I
also
was
the
owner
of
Castle
Cody
and
boutique.
Hotel
and
I
have
heart
Falls
heart
for
the
Palm
Springs
brand
of
unique
quality
tourism
for
many
years.
T
T
A
All
right,
thank
you.
That
concludes
public
comment.
We
will
now
move
on
to
the
next
item
to
a
a
public
hearing
to
conduct
a
special
election,
an
introduction
of
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
levy
of
special
taxes
with
annexation
number
26
to
community
facilities,
District
number
2005-1,
Public
Safety
Services.
May
we
have
a
staff
report.
Please.
O
Good
evening
Madame
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
Joel
Montalvo
city
engineer,
so
the
city
council
created
Community
facilities,
District
2005-1,
to
allow
the
city
to
Levy
a
special
tax
on
certain
properties
identified
as
fee
status,
non-indian,
a
lot
least
or
tribal
trust
properties
located
within
the
city
to
provide
a
financing
mechanism
to
sustain
the
delivery
of
Public
Safety
Services
to
new
residential
developments
located
on
those
properties.
As
new
residential
developments
on
fee
status,
lands
have
been
approved
by
the
city,
they
are
conditionally
approved
with
a
requirement
to
Annex
into
cfd
2005-1.
O
C
A
V
Madam
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
tem
and
members
of
city
council,
a
while
back,
you
gave
us
direction
to
look
at
how
we
could
reduce
barriers
to
the
establishment
of
child
care
businesses.
What
we
are
proposing
this
evening
is
a
modification
to
the
city's
zoning
code
to
help
facilitate
the
establishment
of
child
care
businesses
in
terms
of
looking
at
how
we
could
reduce
barriers.
V
We
looked
at
two
different
options:
number
one
was
a
fiscal
option
in
terms
of
doing
some
type
of
an
application
fee
waiver
and
then
the
second
way
was
to
either
reduce
or
eliminate
entitlement
application
requirements,
and
so
we
investigated
those
two
options
both
have
pluses
and
minuses
in
terms
of
an
application
fee
waiver.
It
would
require
annual
funding
from
the
central
City's
general
fund
to
fund
the
program,
and
sometimes
in
some
of
the
future
years
that
funding
can
get
lost,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
drawbacks
of
taking
that
approach.
V
However,
one
of
the
benefits
of
that
process
is,
it
still
allows
for
either
staff
or
Planning
Commission
review.
If
there
are
any
impacts
of
the
child
care
business
to
adjacent
properties.
The
other
option
is
to
reduce
entitlement
application
requirements
so
to
either
eliminate
or
downgrade
the
application.
That's
needed.
What
that
does
is
number
one.
It
eliminates
application
fees,
it
doesn't
need
to
be
funded
from
the
city's
general
fund.
It
also
reduces
the
time
frame
for
approvals.
In
most
cases,
the
city
would
not
be
required
to
approve
an
application.
V
V
V
So
before
we
get
into
the
specific
changes
that
we're
proposing
it's
important
to
understand
the
three
different
categories
of
child
care,
businesses,
as
defined
in
state
law
and
as
we
have
replicated
in
our
zoning
ordinance,
the
first
two
categories,
daycare
small
and
daycare
large
take
place
in
a
residence.
Typically,
the
operator
of
the
business
has
their
own
children
as
part
of
the
day
care
business
as
well
as
other
children.
V
V
What
we
are
proposing
as
part
of
this
change
to
the
zoning
code
is
in
residential
districts
for
a
child
care
center
and
again
this
is
one
that's
typically
not
in
a
family
home
is
to
downgrade
the
application
from
a
conditional
use
permit
to
a
land
use
permit.
What
that
does
is
it
substantially
reduces
the
cost
and
also
substantially
reduces
the
time
frame
for
approval
land
use
permits
are
approved
at
a
staff
level,
and
so
those
can
be
done
in
a
matter
of
weeks.
V
As
far
as
daycare,
small
and
daycare
large
in
residential
Zone
districts
across
the
board,
those
would
be
permitted
uses
in
residential
districts.
That
is
mostly
the
case.
Currently
there's
two
instances
in
the
daycare
large
facility,
where
we
are
changing
that
or
adding
that
to
a
residential
Zone
District
in
commercial
and
Industrial
Zone
districts.
The
only
child
child
care
facility
that
we
allow
currently
is
the
child
care
center,
and
so
this
is
the
larger
facility
that
wouldn't
be
in
a
family
home.
V
V
V
A
A
W
I,
thank
you
Flynn.
If
we
go
with
the
state
instead
of
the
city
implementing
the
process,
do
they
still
notify
neighbors
and
things
of
that
nature,
like
the
city
would
or
do
they
not
do
that.
W
And
do
you
have
a
a
recommendation
from
a
staff
standpoint
on
which
process
you
think
would
be
the
best
I.
A
U
Thank
you,
mayor
I,
just
want
to
applaud
staff
in
the
Planning
Commission
for
bringing
this
forward.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
work
on
this.
This
came
to
our
attention
because
we
had
a
local
child
care
provider
who
was
potentially
being
pushed
out
of
their
current
lease
where
they
currently
rent
and
they
couldn't
find
any
other
location
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
to
continue
their
business.
U
But
we
saw
that
there
are
problems
with
finding
enough
spaces
to
locate
your
child
care
business
and
then
also
going
through
the
administrative
process
and
procedures
and
paying
for
the
cost
of
doing
a
conditional
use
or
Lup
different
permits
that
they
might
be
required
to
do
by
city
by
the
city.
So
thank
you,
I
think
this
is
excellent.
Work
really
appreciate
you
bringing
for
bringing
this
forward
by
the
way
for
that
story.
U
There
is
good
news:
they
actually
stayed
in
their
current
location
and
their
landlord
was
able
to
keep
them
in,
and
so
that's
good,
but
we
don't
know
how
many
more
businesses
could
be
locating
here,
but
cannot
find
Space
I've
been
working
with
at
least
a
handful
of
them
who
can't
find
current
leases
and
Lease
space
for
child
care,
centers
and
personally,
having
looked
at
child
care
in
other
cities,
it's
much
more
available
in
some
cities
than
here.
We
are
truly
our
child
care
desert.
U
U
And
then
you
had
also
sort
of
went
over
quickly
the
possibility
of
reducing
fees
or
waiving
fees.
So
could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
possibility
and
why
it's
in
either
an
or
and
not
not
a
both
as.
V
You
can
see
from
our
staff
report.
We
have
recommended
the
approach
to
eliminating
zoning
barriers
again.
One
of
the
reasons
why
we
had
recommended
that
is
it.
It
makes
it
easier
from
a
fiscal
standpoint
on
the
city's
part
that
we
don't
have
to
continually
add
money
to
the
budget
each
year
to
fund
the
program,
not
knowing
how
many
applicants
we
would
get
over
the
course
of
the
year,
and
sometimes
future
councils
may
not
be
as
attuned
to
the
need
for
child
care
facilities,
and
so
they
may
not
fund
the
program.
V
So
the
other
approach
is
to
amend
our
zoning
ordinance
to
eliminate
the
need
for
a
conditional
use
permit
or
a
land
use
permit
and
allowing
Child
Care
businesses
as
a
permitted
use.
What
that
does
is
for
the
foreseeable
future.
It
does
reduce
the
barriers
by
not
having
applicants
go
through
a
permit
process,
they
don't
have
to
pay
fees,
and
yet
one
of
the
benefits
I
learned
a
whole
lot
about
the
permitting
process.
V
At
the
state
level,
the
state
is
very
thorough
in
terms
of
how
they
vet
facilities
and
so
I'm
very
comfortable
in
allowing
the
state
to
approve
Child
Care
businesses
and
don't
feel
that
it's
something
that
we
need
to
do
at
the
local
level.
With
the
degree
of
scrutiny
that
the
state
gives
each
operation.
U
Thank
you,
and
could
you
just
explain,
especially
for
the
public,
for
people
who
might
be
listening
in
who
might
be
a
provider
the
difference
in
the
level
of
review
with
the
land
use
permit,
and
so
you
explain
the
differences.
The
conditional
use
permit
costs,
7
700
this
land
use
application
would
cost
sixteen
hundred
or
so.
What
is
the
review
that
goes
into
the
Lup
that
we
would
still
require
for
child
care?
Centers?
Certainly.
V
So
for
a
land
use
permit,
as
you've
indicated,
the
cost
is
approximately
sixteen
hundred
dollars.
The
application
is
reviewed
at
a
staff
level,
so
members
of
the
planning
staff
would
review
the
application
verify
that
it
conforms
with
zoning
requirements
verify
if
there
are
any
impacts
and
then
would
approve
the
application
at
a
staff
level,
as
I
had
mentioned,
the
time
frame
for
reviewing
land
use
permits
is
fairly
short
anywhere
from
about
two
to
three
weeks,
depending
on
the
application,
education
and
the
completeness
of
the
application.
V
In
contrast,
the
conditional
use
permit
is
a
public
hearing
process.
The
application
fee
is
about
seventy
seven
hundred
dollars.
It
does
require
notification
to
all
property
owners
and
residents
within
500
feet
of
the
subject
location
it
takes
about
90
days
for
the
application
to
go
through
the
process
and
does
require
approval
from
the
Planning
Commission.
So
it's
a
much
lengthier
process
and
much
more
in
terms
of
the
application
fees.
U
V
V
We
don't,
however,
our
home
occupation
code
does
not
allow
the
amount
of
traffic.
If
you
will
that
a
child
care
facility
potentially
could
generate,
and
so
for
the
most
part,
we
don't
look
at
that
for
home
occupations,
but
again
they're
restricted
in
terms
of
how
many
customers
or
or
staff
members
they
can
employ
in
a
home-based
business.
U
Thank
you
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
business
owner
who
flagged
this
for
us,
because
I
do
think
this
shows
some
of
the
invisible
barriers
to
developing
child
care
facilities
in
the
city,
and
you
know,
wherever
else
that
we
might
have
not
known,
have
they
not
come
forward.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
work
on
this
Flynn.
U
Call
please
before
we
do
that
if
I
can
I'm
so
sorry,
thank
you,
madam
mayor,
just
for
their
discussion,
because
I'm
still
remembering
that
the
business
we
worked
with
said
that
the
1600
land
use
permit
cost
was
still
too
much
and
what
we
know
about
child
care
providers.
Is
there
often
minimum
wage
workers
and
they're
often
not
turning
a
huge
profit
through
their
businesses
or
their
child
care?
So
through
that
work?
So
could
you
sort
of
detail?
Is
there
you
know?
What
is
the
process?
Do
you
think
that
will
be
a
barrier?
U
V
You
would
need
to
adopt
a
separate
policy
to
waive
those
application
fees
generally.
I
would
suggest
that
it
shouldn't
be
a
barrier,
because
this
only
applies
in
residential
Zone
districts.
Most
often
what
we
have
seen
with
child
care
businesses
is
that
you'll
have
the
either
daycare
small
or
Day
Care
large
in
residential
districts,
and
so
that
does
not
require
a
land
use.
Permit
is
permitted
by
right.
It's
the
the
larger
businesses.
Typically
you'll,
see
those
in
commercial
areas
because
they
are
a
larger
facility.
V
U
Thank
you
just
for
Council
of
how
this
plays
out
we're
working
with
the
business
who
needed
a
land
use
permit
in
one
location
in
the
city,
but
also
needed
Fire
Marshal
inspection.
It
was
just
very
complicated
to
find
a
space
that
worked
with
a
land
use
permit
and
also
to
pay
the
fee.
So
I
don't
know
how
we
deal
with
that
as
a
policy
matter,
and
you
know
please
this
for
the
public
when
you
contact
us
and
say
I
have
a
problem
with
this.
U
U
A
A
Please
note
that
council
member
holstage
is
re
recusing
herself
from
this
discussion.
G
Thank
you.
This
is
a
second
reading
of
this
ordinance
that
was
introduced
at
the
November
10th
meeting.
Normally,
the
second
reading
is
a
fairly
routine
process.
However,
we
also
wanted
to
make
staff
available
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
the
council
may
have
as
well
as
possibly
give
an
update
in
terms
of
some
of
the
kind
of
administrative
actions
that
staff
has
been
taking
in
order
to
implement
what
we
anticipate
to
be
the
second
reading
in
it,
and
so
Mr
Clifford
is
available
to
provide
that
after
this
brief
report.
G
In
addition,
I'd
like
to
point
out
a
few
typographical
or
clerical
errors
that
were
made
in
the
staff
report
in
the
ordinance
that's
included
before
you
specifically
at
the
November
10th
meeting,
there
was
some
discussion
about
the
number
of
permits
or
I'm
sorry
number
of
contracts
that
would
be
allowed
for
either
new
permittees
or
for
existing
permittees.
After
January
1st
2026,
the
staff
report,
an
agenda
item
references
that
as
24
when
it
was
in
fact
decided
by
the
city
council
on
November
10th
to
be
26..
G
So
assuming
the
council
moves
forward
with
the
second
reading,
we
would
correct
that
typographical
error
and
make
it
26
and
not
24..
In
addition,
that
date
for
the
grandfathering
or
grandparenting
of
existing
permit
holders
should
be
January
1st
2026,
not
2025
as
reference
in
the
staff
material.
G
In
addition,
there
were
two
paragraphs
in
section
5.25.070
that
are
really
vestigial
from
the
previous
ordinance
when
this
was
originally
adopted
in
2017
I
think
it
was
the
intent
of
the
council
to
have
those
removed,
and
so
we
would
do
that
as
well,
and
then
there
was
reference
in
the
agenda
material
to
a
cap
of
36
when
I
believe
the
discussion
at
the
November
10th
meeting
really
referenced.
That
should
be
the
existing
32
base
contracts
plus
four
contracts
in
the
third
quarter.
G
That
was
the
language
that
was
presented
to
the
city
council
at
the
November
10th
meeting,
and
our
review
of
the
the
video
indicates
that
that
was
not
changed
by
consensus
of
the
council.
So
we
would
be
correcting
that
reference
as
well
and
then
I
think
there
was
a
question
by
at
least
one
member
of
the
public.
G
Maybe
two
regarding
grandparenting
of
existing
permits,
I
believe
it's
the
city's
position
that
at
the
annual
renewal
period
for
any
existing
permit
holders,
they
would
have
to
be
in
compliance
with
this
ordinance
as
it's
being
adopted,
irrespective
of
whether
they
may
have
been
in
compliance
with
the
ordinance
prior.
So
just
to
kind
of
clarify
the
record
on
that
issue.
That
concludes
my
staff
presentation
again.
I
believe
Mr
Clifford
is
available
to
give
an
update
on
the
staff
changes
and
issues
that
have
been
going
on.
A
I
do
have
one
question
if
I
understood
the
public
comment
that
we
received
this
evening
correctly,
we
have
a
case
where
two
individuals
each
took
out
permits,
while
they
were
single,
have
now
been
married
and
therefore,
if
they
were
applying
today
as
a
married
couple,
would
only
be
eligible
for
one
permit
in
a
situation
like
that,
where
they
legally
obtained
permits
separately.
X
Yes,
currently,
you
know
with
that
situation,
since
they
have
obtained
permits
separately
before
marriage.
We've
allowed
to
continue
to
have
the
two
separification
rental
properties
under
the
ownership
of
the
married
couple
going
forward
and.
A
What
we
would
be
doing
is
determining
that,
in
fact,
they
did
legally
obtain
the
permits,
while
they
were
both
single
and
now
continue
on.
That's
correct,
okay!
Okay,
thank
you
can.
F
G
Can't
do
it,
and
maybe
the
mayor
is
thinking
of
a
different
situation,
but
the
situation
that
arose
this
last
year
and
staff
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
they
were
married
when
they
bought
the
second
property
and
staff
and
in
our
office,
believe
that
that
is
inconsistent
with
the
ordinances
General
theme,
which
is
that
these
are
really
ancillary
uses
and
should
not
be
the
primary
use,
and
so
therefore,
having
a
couple,
whether
married
or
under
a
domestic
partnership
having
two
properties
again,
that
just
seemed
inconsistent
with
the
concept
of
ancillary
use,
and
so
as
I
just
mentioned.
G
I.
Think
SAS
position
would
be
that
if
those
two
individuals
bought
the
property
as
as
single
people
and
then
got
married,
they
would
have
to
come
into
compliance
with
this
ordinance
at
the
next
annual
registration,
at
least
under
the
language.
As
drafted.
A
Well,
I
I
think
we
need
to
be
clear
as
to
what
it
is
I
agree
completely.
If.
A
One
individual
owns
a
vacation
rental
permit,
they
get
they
get
married
and
then
attempt
to
take
a
second
permit.
That
should
not
be
allowed.
That's
inconsistent
with
what
our
rules
are.
The
situation
where
two
individuals
living
apart
not
married
each
owning
a
vacation
rental.
A
They
then
meet
come
together
and,
ultimately,
Mary
I
think
creates
a
very
different
fact
scenario
as
to
whether
or
not
they
should
at
that
point
be
required
to
get
to
sell
one
of
the
properties
and
I'm
I'm
open
to
any
argument
on
this
I'm
simply
trying
to
be
fair
to
to
all
sides
and
clearly
when,
if
it's
two
individuals
that
we're
not
together
when
they
bought
the
properties
that
that's
a
very
different
fact
scenario.
F
And
the
scenario
where
they
haven't
met
and
aren't
living
together
is
one
that
would
take
a
lot
of
inquiry.
So
in
this
case
we
have
testimony
today
that
they
would
get
divorced.
So
they
could
do
this
and
then
so
you're
almost
like
do
that
get
divorced,
then
you
can
get
remarried
and
you're
you're
allowed
to
continue
doing
it
and
that's
sort
of
that's
what
that
would
do
and
that's
problematic
right
so
I,
don't
know
how
we
get
into
the
really
trying
to
you
know
figure
that
out.
F
But
given
it's
pretty
easy,
you
know
it's
somewhat
ridiculous,
that
someone
might
do
that,
but
they
might.
But
you
know
we're
you
do
it
right
before
you
get
married
and
then
you
have
two
vacation
rentals
and
your
your
main
residence
is
in
Palm
Springs.
F
A
A
Certainly
trying
to
be
fair,
Mr,
Ballinger
or
anyone
encount
else
on
Council
want
to
to
weigh
in.
G
I
guess
I
would
just
point
out.
You
know
that
two
individuals
who
may
have
purchased
their
two
properties,
while
single
individuals
and
and
become
married
or
registered
domestic
Partners
I,
can
I
can
see
some
unfairness
in
having
this
rule
applied
to
them.
It
should
be
pointed
out,
though,
that
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
they
have
to
sell
one
or
both
of
the
houses.
It
simply
means
that
they
can
only
hold
a
vacation
rental
permit
for
one
of
the
two
houses
they
can
continue
to
own
both
properties.
G
They
can
continue
to
reside
in
both
properties,
and
they
can
do
longer
term
rentals
of
one
or
both
of
the
properties.
It's
just
they
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
have
vacation
rental
permits
for
both
of
them
and
again,
the
the
rationale
for
that
is
that
it
seems
inconsistent
with
the
concept
that
both
of
those
properties
would
be
ancillary
uses
or
are
the
primary
use
of
of
both
of
the
individuals.
A
Understood
councilmember
Woods
all.
W
Right,
thank
you,
I,
just
wonder
what
staff's
bandwidth
to
check
marriage
licenses
if
they're
separated,
if
they're,
legally
separated,
if
they're
just
not
living
together,
I
mean
do
we
even
have
the
capacity
as
a
city
to
look
at
all
of
that.
X
All
the
respect
of
pulling
you
know,
marriage
license
and
stuff
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
pro
path
to
that
other
than
going
through
the
county,
but
what
staff
does
currently
when
an
application
comes
in?
They
do
check
title
and
everything
associated
with
the
documents
purchasing
the
house
and
usually
catch.
X
You
know
terminology
in
there
whether
it's
purchased
as
a
a
single
person
or
as
a
married
couple,
and
they
also
you
know,
check
those
names
across
the
our
vacation
rental
property
list
to
make
sure
that
there's.
If
there
is
two
names
on
the
title,
that
they
don't
already
have
a
vacation
rental
owned
previously
using
the
same
Concepts
where
they
looked
at
title
and
all
the
information
when
they
purchased
the
house.
X
Right,
we
do
ask
for
every
year
when
properties,
renew
property
ownership
change
and
a
lot
of
times
when
they
complete
the
paperwork.
They'll
State,
the
new
ownerships
of
the
of
the
property
and
then
staff
and
find
say
well,
hey
the
the
two
persons
listed
on
the
property
ownership
form
I'm
now
under
two
different
certificates,
and
then
they
and
they
do
inquire
as
far
as
just
simply
asking
questions
and
then
looking
at
transaction
history
through
title
search.
X
As
far
as
what
may
have
happened,
and
then
you
know
this,
it's
just
a
handful,
maybe
one
or
two
cases
where
we've
came
across.
Maybe
two
persons
that
are
single
own
vacation,
rentals
prior
and
then
entered
into
your
marriage
and.
W
If
somebody
is
legally
separated,
how
do
we
want
to
handle
that
that's.
X
A
good
question:
you
know,
if
they're,
legally,
separated
and
really
our
ordinance
when
it
says
financial
and
beneficial
interests
and
more
than
one
vacation
rental.
If
that
person,
even
though
they're
still
separated,
if
they're
still
both
on
title
owning
the
property,
we
would
still
look
at
as
a
financial
and
beneficial
interest
in
in
one
vacation,
rental.
K
A
I'm
understanding
what
I'm
hearing
the
scenario
that
I
described
is
not
of
two
people
who
clearly
purchase
the
properties
prior
to
forming
a
relationship
is
not
what
we're
presented
with
this
evening
and
so
I'm
comfortable
with
moving
forward.
A
The
order,
but
I
would
ask
staff
to
to
investigate
further
and
to
come
back.
My
last
comment
on
this
is
I
would
look
with
great
disfavor
anyone
coming
forward
and
trying
to
evade
our
rules
by
legally
separating
or
doing
something
else
with
marital
status
that
was
solely
directed
towards
obtaining
a
second
permit.
X
H
Oh
well,
council
member
holstedge
welcome
back,
but
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
people
know
in
this
interim
that
our
one
of
our
Palm
Springs
residents
and
district
one
resident
Charlie
Irvin
will
be
sworn
in
as
our
new
school
board
member
on
December
13th
at
6
PM.
So
anybody
who
wants
to
see
that
happen
just
to
let
you
know.
A
V
Madam
mayor
and
members
of
council,
as
a
preference
to
this
discussion
this
evening,
I
will
just
want
to
point
out
that
this
is
one
of
those
topics.
They
don't
prepare.
You
for
in
urban
planning
School,
however,
I
will
say,
I
have
been
responsible
for
regulating
adult
businesses
in
four
different
communities
across
three
different
states,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
the
ordinances
are
amazingly
similar.
So
with
that,
let
me
go
ahead
and
get
into
our
presentation
this
evening.
V
The
ordinance
that
we
currently
have
on
the
books
in
our
Municipal
Code
was
last
amended
in
1995,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
tried
to
do
on
a
regular
basis
is
to
update
our
ordinances.
I
think
you've
seen
this
with
our
annual
update
to
the
zoning
code.
There
are
other
ordinances
in
the
municipal
code
that
we
would
like
to
update
on
a
regular
basis
as
conditions
change,
and
so
this
is
one
of
the
main
reasons
why
we're
bringing
this
forward
to
you,
and
that
is
that
things
have
significantly
changed
in
the
industry.
V
Let
me
give
you
some
background
in
terms
of
what
adult
businesses
require
in
terms
of
Permitting
and
also
in
terms
of
location
and
then
also
Define.
What
aren't
adult
businesses,
because
many
times
that
is
also
confused?
First
of
all,
adult
uses
are
permitted
by
right.
They
do
not
require
land
use
permits,
they
do
not
require
conditional
use
permits,
and
this
again
is
something
that
we
see
as
a
standard
practice
as
I
had
mentioned
in
the
various
jurisdictions
in
which
I've
worked.
V
Secondly,
in
our
community,
adult
businesses
are
allowed
only
in
industrial
zones,
and
so
I
have
listed
there.
The
industrial
zones
are
commercial
manufacturing,
Zone,
our
M1
manufacturing,
Zone,
m1p,
manufacturing,
professional
Zone
and
rm2
Manufacturing
Zone,
and
so
they
are
currently
only
allowed
in
industrial
zones.
V
What
people
often
think
are
adult
businesses
are
not,
for
example,
here
in
Palm
Springs
we
have
many
clothing,
optional
hotels,
those
are
not
defined
as
an
adult
business
in
our
code,
and
so
they
are
not
subject
to
an
adult
business.
Permit
live
art
classes,
I
think
that
goes
without
saying
that
figure,
drawing
classes
offered
by
a
college
or
a
community
art
facility
are
not
an
adult
business
and
then
the
third
category
that
aren't
considered
to
be
adult
businesses
are
stores
that
may
have
adult
products,
but
only
a
small
percentage
of
their
inventory
or
floor.
V
Space
is
adult
products,
and
so
we
have
a
number
of
retail
businesses
in
the
sunny
Dunes
area
on
Arenas.
You
have
a
business
owner
this
evening
on
North
Palm
Canyon,
whose
businesses
sell
adult
products.
But
again
it's
not
the
largest
part
of
their
inventory.
Much
of
their
inventory
is
clothing,
which
is
not
considered
to
be
an
adult
product,
and
so
they
are
exempt
from
being
required
to
obtain
an
adult
business
permit
and
they
may
locate
in
standard
commercial
zones,
and
so
those
are
not
adult
businesses.
V
What
are
adult
businesses
is
the
list
that
you
see
here
on
the
right
in
the
table.
What
I
would
propose
is
again
because
there
have
been
significant
changes
in
the
industry
over
the
last
approximately
30
years
is
that
we
call
that
list
down
into
four
more
generalized
categories.
The
first
would
be
an
adult,
entertainment
establishment.
The
current
uses
that
we
have,
that
would
include
an
adult
Cabaret
or
a
strip
club
adult
model.
V
Studio
I,
don't
know
that
I've
ever
seen
those
anywhere,
but
we
have
that
listed
in
our
code
and
then
finally
in
adult
theater,
which
I
believe
goes
beyond
a
strip
club
or
a
bar
that
offers
sort
of
this
that
offers
that
type
of
entertainment.
The
next
category
is
an
adult
hotel
or
motel.
We
don't
have
any
of
those
in
our
city.
Currently
I,
don't
know
that
we've
had
any
permits
for
those
in
the
past
in
the
recent
in
the
recent
past,
we're
not
proposing
any
changes
there
other
than
a
change
to
its
definition.
V
V
Sadly,
that
would
incorp
and
Encompass
the
Hilton
chain,
the
Marriott
chain.
Most
hotel
chains
do
offer
adult
movies,
and
so
we've
taken
that
language
out
of
the
definition
of
an
adult,
hotel
or
motel,
because
then
pretty
much
any
hotel
would
be
an
adult
hotel
or
motel.
V
The
third
category
is
adult
retail
establishment,
and
so
that
would
have
been
historically
an
adult
bookstore
or
a
motion
picture
arcade
two
uses
that
we're
seeing
much
less
of
across
the
country
just
again
because
of
changes
in
the
industry.
Finally,
changing
the
name
of
this
one,
we
Define
a
sex
club
in
our
zoning
code,
we're
changing
the
name
of
that
to
an
adult
sex
venue
which
is
more
in
line
with
industry
standards.
V
Today,
currently,
sex
clubs
are
prohibited
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
and
so
this
is
one
of
the
changes
that
we're
proposing
to
you
this
evening
is
to
allow
that
as
a
permitted
use
in
terms
of
changes
to
uses,
as
I
had
mentioned,
we're
only
currently
allowing
those
in
industrial
districts
there's
an
additional
caveat
in
our
code,
which
says:
they're
also
prohibited
on
major
or
secondary
thoroughfares,
and
so
that
essentially,
is
any
four-lane
or
six-lane
roadway.
So,
for
example,
Palm
Canyon
they
would
be
prohibited
on
Palm
Canyon.
They
would
be
prohibited
on
Ramon.
V
V
V
Another
series
of
changes
that
we
might
recommend
to
you
is
relative
to
separation
distance
in
terms
of
protected
uses
such
as
Parks
schools,
playgrounds,
Etc.
What
we
might
offer
to
you
is
consider
increasing
that
separation
distance
from
500
feet
to
600
feet
the
reason
that
we're
recommending
that
is
so
that
there
is
a
similar
standard
that
we
have
already
in
place
for
cannabis
uses.
What
that
does
is
it
helps
to
simplify
the
separation
distance
from
protected
uses
by
having
a
single
standard
that
we
apply
there.
V
One
of
the
issues
that
we've
heard
in
public
testimony
is
separation
from
residential
areas.
As
I
had
mentioned.
One
of
the
areas
where
adult
uses
are
permitted
is
in
the
sunny
Dunes
of
the
sanity.
However,
we
do
have
residential
areas
immediately
to
the
East
and
then
also
to
the
south
on
the
other
side
of
Tahquitz,
current
chocolates.
Creek
excuse
me.
Currently
we
require
a
650-foot
separation
distance
from
residential
areas,
and
so
what
that
does
is
it
leaves
a
very
limited
area
where
those
businesses
can
locate.
V
We
used
to
have
a
strip
club
in
the
sunny
Dunes
area
that
was
closer
to
Palm
Canyon,
while
obviously
not
directly
on
Palm
Canyon.
So
there's
a
small
handful
of
parcels
where
adult
businesses
could
locate
in
the
sunny
Dunes
area
because
of
this
residential
separation
requirement.
What
we
might
consider
is
modifying
that.
V
In
discussing
this,
one
of
the
other
things
we
might
consider
is,
rather
than
decreasing.
The
residential
separation
distance
is
to
perhaps
Institute
a
waiver
process
whereby
much
like
with
cannabis,
uses
for
dispensaries
or
lounges.
We
allow
city
council
to
waive
that
distance
separation
requirement
based
upon
criteria
where
we
can
still
offer
protection
to
Residential
Properties,
and
so
that
might
be
an
alternative
if
you
are
interested
in
modifying
the
residential
separation
distance
in
terms
of
separation
from
other
adult
businesses.
V
Currently,
our
code
says
that
they
can't
be
adjacent
so
similar
to
what
I
was
proposing
for
residential
cannot
be
next
to
or
across
a
right-of-way
from
I'm
not
proposing
to
make
any
changes
to
that.
However,
should
city
council
want
to
investigate
doing
that?
What
we
could
look
at
is
a
similar
standard
that
we
apply
to
cannabis,
businesses
where
we
apply
a
500
foot
separation,
distance
between
adult
businesses,
and
so
that
might
be
an
acceptable
remedy.
If
that's
one
direction
that
you
would
like
to
go.
V
Looking
at
some
of
the
general
changes
we're
proposing
to
update
the
Ordinance,
one
of
the
things
I'm
proposing
is
to
expand
the
retail
threshold
currently,
as
I
had
mentioned,
businesses
where
10
percent
or
less
of
their
inventory
as
adult
products
are
not
considered
to
be
an
adult
oriented
businesses
I'm
proposing
to
up
that
to
20
percent.
The
reason
that
I'm
doing
that
is
again
familiarizing
myself
with
local
businesses
I'm,
seeing
that
some
are
borderline
on
the
10
percent
requirement,
rather
than
having
to
go
through
the
process
of
having
those
businesses
relocate
to
industrial
areas.
V
Interior
environment,
what
I'm
recommending
is
for
adult
sex
venues
and
adult
entertainment
establishments
or
strip
clubs
is
that
each
require
a
security
plan.
That's
reviewed
and
approved
by
our
Police
Department.
The
reason
I'm
suggesting
that
is,
we
have
a
similar
standard
in
place
for
nightclubs
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
to
have
this
apply
to
those
two
types
of
adult
businesses
in
looking
at
protection
for
patrons
of
those
businesses.
V
V
Obviously,
another
thing
I've
talked
about
eliminating
interior
configuration
requirements
and
evaluating
that
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
as
we
look
at
their
security
plans
and
then
there
are
other
requirements
that
are
currently
in
our
adult
business
ordinance
such
as
outdoor
lighting,
bathroom
configurations,
which
are
addressed
by
our
zoning
code
and
our
building
code
respectively.
They
don't
need
to
be
here.
We
just
refer
to
them
as
we
review
these
types
of
businesses,
and
so
I
propose
that
we
eliminate
some
language
there
that
is
already
addressed
in
other
locations
in
our
municipal
code.
V
One
of
the
things
that
we
don't
address
here
that
has
proven
to
be
an
issue
is
that
some
hotels
are
offering
day
passes.
Some
are
holding
events
as
I've
mentioned,
our
clothing
optional
hotels
are
not
adult
businesses.
However,
this
continues
to
be
an
area
of
interest
that
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
further.
What
I'd
propose
is,
rather
than
going
into
that
this
evening,
staff
would
like
to
come
back
with
a
proposal
to
look
at
a
permitting
process
for
events
and
day
passes
at
our
hotels.
V
That's
something
that
we
would
want
to
review
with
our
hotel
organizations
that
we
have
here
in
town
to
come
up
with
an
acceptable
solution
to
address
that
next,
we're
also
proposing
changes
to
the
public
nudity
ordinance.
Perhaps
we've
been
a
little
aggressive
in
suggesting
that
we
eliminate
it
entirely.
V
The
reason
that
we
had
proposed,
that
is,
there's
already
language
in
state
law
which
addresses
public
nudity,
we're
not
suggesting
that
we
need
to
be
more
permissive,
as
some
public
comment
letters
had
suggested
or
that
we'd
be
opening
ourselves
up
to
issues
where
public
sex
occurs.
That's
not
what
we're
looking
to
do.
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
we're
looking
to
hold
a
similar
standard,
as
would
be
found
in
state
law.
However,
I
think
there's
another
way
that
we
can
do
that
with
a
couple
of
minor
tweaks
to
our
existing
public
nudity
ordinance.
V
First
of
all,
we
can
look
at
our
definition
of
public
nudity
and
make
some
minor
Corrections
and
changes
to
that.
Secondly,
I
think
we
can
add
language
from
section
314
teen
of
the
state
code,
which
addresses
intent
that
public
nudity
absent,
prurient
intent
or
willful
lewdness
things
like
that
help
to
address
the
question
of
intent
relative
to
public
nudity
and
so
I
think
that
there's
a
couple
of
minor
modifications
that
we
can
make
to
our
existing
ordinance
to
address
public
concern.
V
Given
you
a
lot
of
information
to
consider
this
evening,
what
I
might
suggest
as
discussion
points
for
you
is
covering
the
following
areas
in
terms
of
adult
business
uses
looking
at
the
proposed
modifications
to
the
uses
themselves,
including
allowing
adult
sex
venues
as
a
permitted
use
in
industrial
districts.
Secondly,
looking
at
keeping
the
adult
businesses
in
industrial
districts
or
whether
you
want
to
look
at
expanding
that
to
other
commercial
zones.
V
Third,
looking
at
separation
distances,
if
you
want
to
modify
those
fourth,
looking
at
any
general
changes,
security
plans,
things
like
that
and
then
finally
number
five
looking
at
the
public
nudity
ordinance,
so
those
are
essentially
five
areas
where
staff
would
look
to
direction
from
City
Council
in
terms
of
changes
that
you
might
want
to
make
to
are
existing
ordinances.
That
concludes
my
presentation
to
you
and
I'm
happy
to
answer.
Questions
and
I'll.
Ask
that
Mr
Ballinger
also
be
on
hand
to
answer
any
questions
of
law.
F
Course,
thank
you.
Mayor
I
have
a
bunch
of
questions,
most
of
them,
I
think
I've
already
run
by
our
Deputy
city
manager
and
the
City
attorney
for
a
heads
up.
Although
a
couple
more
came
out
during
the
presentation,
so
so
can
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
diagrams,
or
can
you
just
give
very
specifics
on
what
the
new
potential
areas
would
be.
V
V
Have
the
pictures,
of
course
yeah
so
in
terms
of
the
two
Zone
districts,
if
you
were
to
expand,
these
are
the
two
that
I'd
recommend
to
you
outside
of
the
industrial
Zone
districts,
where
it's
currently
permitted
I
had
recommended
the
C2
Zone.
The
map
that
you
see
there
on
the
left
is
showing
the
intersection
of
South
Palm,
Canyon
and
sunny
Dunes
Road.
The
parcels
in
purple
are
the
C2
zoned
parcels.
V
There
are
a
number
of
those
that
are
directly
on
South
Palm
Canyon,
so
adult
businesses
could
not
be
located
on
those
Parcels
directly
facing
South
Palm
Canyon.
There's
a
couple
of
parcels
to
the
West
that
are
Zone
C2
that
are
not
on
a
major
or
secondary
thoroughfare.
So
it
does
open
up
a
couple
of
additional
Parcels,
but
it's
a
very
limited
area
where
those
would
be
permitted.
V
The
second
area
that
I'm
suggesting
is
the
highway
commercial
Zone,
which
is
up
on
the
near
the
intersection
of
I-10
and
North
Indian
Canyon
and
those
are
the
parcels
that
are
identified
in
turquoise
in
the
map
on
the
right
and
so
Parcels
directly
fronting
on
Indian
Canyon
would
not
allow
an
adult
business,
but
there
are
some
on
Garnett
where
adult
businesses
could
locate.
V
So
it
does
open
up
a
couple
of
additional
Parcels
overall
by
making
this
changes
to
allowing
in
C2
and
the
highway
commercial
Zone
with
the
Restriction
that
they
can't
locate
on
a
primary
or
secondary
thoroughfare.
It
opens
up
a
limited
number
of
parcels,
and
so
I
just
want
to
be
quite
clear
that
it's
not
going
to
probably
expand
to
the
degree
that
some
business
owners
might
hope,
but
also
to
the
community
concerns.
It
won't
allow
the
expansion
of
adult
businesses
to
the
degree
that
they
fear,
and
so
that's
what
I
would
recommend.
V
I
had
suggested
in
the
staff
report
that
we
could
look
at
C1.
But
I'll
be
perfectly
honest,
because
most
of
our
C1
parcel
are
on
South
Palm,
Canyon
and
North
Palm
Canyon,
both
north
and
south,
of
downtown
they're
on
a
major
thoroughfare
and
so
allowing
it
in
C1,
even
by
a
conditional
use.
Permit,
would
not
expand
the
number
of
parcels
that
would
be
eligible
for
adult
businesses
and
so
I
really
wouldn't
look
at
expanding
to
C1.
At
this
point,
based
on
the
restrictions
that
we
have
great
thank.
F
So
is
there
any
regulation?
I
know
we're
going
to
look
at
this
later,
but
just
given
this
came
up
and
just
to
get
it
answered
publicly
so
for
a
hotel
that
sells
day
or
night
passes
clothing
optional
to
the
to
their
hotel
for
someone
who's
not
staying
in
a
room
that
allows
sexual
activity
in
public
areas
of
the
private
Hotel,
some
people
are
paying
to
go
to
those.
That's
not
considered
a
sex
venue
under
our
ordinance.
That's
allowed
currently
two
separate
questions.
V
Sorry,
yes,
it
is
two
separate
questions
in
terms
of
clothing,
optional,
hotels
and
sex
on
the
grounds
of
clothing,
optional,
hotels.
We
don't
consider
those
to
be
adult
businesses,
we
don't
regulate
what
activities
take
place
on
the
grounds
of
a
hotel
for
the
most
part.
V
What
complicates
the
issue
is
when
they
are
inviting
outside
guests
to
the
property
selling
day
passes
or
in
other
instances,
we've
seen
them
have
events
at
the
hotel
that
are
held
out
to
the
General
Public
that
becomes
more
problematic
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
want
to
propose
a
separate
ordinance
to
come
forward
to
address
those
issues.
V
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
from
those
types
of
events
is
very
simple
in
that
it
creates
a
parking
issue
in
neighborhoods,
especially
at
the
smaller
hotels,
where
they
don't
have
additional
parking
spaces
to
accommodate,
over
and
above
the
guests
that
are
registered
at
the
hotel
and
then,
secondly,
to
avoid
conflicts
with
our
adult
business
ordinance.
We
don't
want
to
have
adult
businesses
in
zones
where
they're
not
permitted
so
outside
of
industrial
areas.
F
Thank
you,
then
I
have
some
specific
questions
and
I
realize
this
ordinance
is
five
doing
math
in
my
head,
but
almost
30
years
old,
and
so
knowing
why
things
were
put
in
maybe
Beyond
anyone's
knowledge
here.
But
since
you've
worked
on
them
in
other
cities,
you
might
know
so
going
to
page
14,
we'll
start
there
just
so
so
it's
14
of
the
staff
report
not
14
in
the
ordinance.
F
Okay,
so
I'll
be
using
Staff
Pages,
so
in
specified
anatomical
parts,
so
one
pubic
region
defined.
It
seems
that
could.
V
Other
than
being
included
in
the
definition
of
an
adult
business,
so
there's
not
a
separate
definition
for
that
in
our
municipal
code.
So
that's
something
we
could
take
out.
Yes,
that's
something
that
we
can
look
at
and
use
more
general
terms.
V
F
I
say
you
took
out
buttocks
here,
although
I
have
it
in
some
other
places.
So
when.
F
I
do
think
whatever
the
appropriate
terms
are,
but
you
know
we
might
want
to
then,
if
we're
focused
on
genitals,
add
anus
or
whatever
the
appropriate
words
and
other
codes
are
for
that
purpose.
Since
we're
taking
out
buttocks
and.
C
F
Just
focusing
more
narrowly
so
to
speak,
page
14,
so.
F
V
That
goes
back
a
long
ways
and
it's
something
we
see
not
only
in
adult
business
ordinances,
but
you
also
see
that
in
FCC
practices
in
terms
of
Television
programming
and
broadcast
television
in
particular,
I
I,
don't
know
why
that
exists.
It's
something
that's
been
done
historically,
however,
okay
and.
F
I
know
some
of
these
will
also
relate
to
the
nudity
ordinance
because,
but
it's
always
struck
me
that
we're
some
discriminatory
differences
between
men
and
women
here
that
we
might
want
to
discuss
so
I
wanted
to
raise
that
because
I
I'm
concerned
about
it.
So
the
second
part
number
two
on
this.
F
F
F
F
F
You
know
I
think
the
same
applies,
you
know
to
flagellation
if
people
are
dressed
and
it's
consensual,
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
some
of
these
that
are
right.
Just
I
appreciate
this
is
old,
but
you
know
so.
I
have
concerns
on
a
bunch
of
those
you
know.
I
could
I
mean
all
of
these
right.
So
you
know
number
two,
you
know
clearly
depicted
genitals
in
a
state
of
arousal,
get
three
again
four,
depending
on
what
we
do
with
the
language
of
buttocks
and
female
breast
would
apply
here
and
pubic
region.
F
And
then
for
number
seven,
when
we're
talking
about
you,
know
menstruation
vaginal
anal,
irrigation
I
mean
unless
for
medical
purposes
right
I
mean
you
don't
want
them
brought.
You
know
medical
places
brought
into
this
and
I
know.
That's
not
the
goal.
F
I
mean
the
way
this
this
reads:
breastfeeding
wouldn't
even
be
allowed,
so
you
know
I
do
think.
Obviously
we
want
to
talk
about
all
these
at
the
council.
I
just
wanted
to
flag
a
few
of
few
of
them.
There's
not
a
lot
more
in
15,
page
15.
U
This
whole
deaf,
defining
portion
is
very
outdated,
the
language
that
it
uses
it
uses
sodomy,
which
I
think
is
sort
of
a
word
that
has
judgment
in.
It
obviously
is
related
to
some
of
the
public
comment
we
heard
and
you
think
you
would
have
anal
sex
or
other
more
medical
terms
that
doctors
use
I'm
on
the
board
of
Planned
Parenthood
of
the
Pacific
Southwest.
We
talk
about
these
terms.
U
You
know,
and
these
aren't
the
terms
that
we
use
that
are
in
here.
So
I
think
my
question
to
the
City
attorney
is:
does
this
and
then
I
just
had
to
Google
what
tumescence
meant
and
I've
never
heard
that
term?
So
I
think
the
regular
public
is
not
going
to
know
what
that
means
either
so
to
the
City
attorney.
Can
we
use
some
normal
terms
here?
I
mean,
does
the
do?
We
need
to
really
specify
out
all
of
these
sexual
acts
in
this
code,
I
mean
there's.
U
Also
some
you
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
in
there
that
yeah.
So
can
you
just
tell
us,
do
we
need
to
Define
every
single
sexual
act?
Is
there
a
broader
way
that
we
could
Define
this?
Can
we
at
least
update
it
sounds
like
staff
will
update
to
more
medically
accurate
terms
but
city
of
attorney?
What
do
you
think
we.
G
Can,
in
fact
that's
that's
really.
The
point
to
bring
this
ordinance
forward
is
to
to
bring
it
up
to
date
with
currently
use
terminology.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
legalese.
It
does
need
to
be
specific
because
we're
dealing
with
some
businesses
that
have
first
amendment
protection
and
so
because
of
that
first
amendment
protection.
G
The
language
can't
be
vague
to
an
ordinary
reader,
but,
as
you
pointed
out,
there
are
quite
a
few
terms
in
here
that
require
a
dictionary
to
to
figure
out
what
they
are,
and
so,
if
the
council
gives
us
that
direction,
we
can
go
back
and
modify
this
language
so
that
it
is
specific
but
also
readable
and
not
legalese.
Thank.
F
More
and
the
last
one
I
want
to
touch
on
is
actually
page
18.
It
used
to
be
24
in
the
old
ordinance.
It's
now
20
in
the
new
organ
sense.
So
this
is
saying
when
there's
live,
entertainment
patrons
shall
be
physically
separated
from
performers
by
a
buffer
zone
of
at
least
six
feet,
and
you
know
some
of
our
definitions
would
apply
to
bars
and
clubs
that
have
go-go
dancers
right
on
boxes
and
people
are
not
only
not
six
feet,
they're
putting
bills
in
their
underwear
right.
F
V
In
reviewing
this
with
the
city
attorney,
we
don't
believe
there's
the
need
to
keep
that
buffer
zone.
I.
Do
want
to
point
out,
however,
that
some
of
our
bars
that
currently
operate
on
Arenas
or
on
Sunny
Dunes
are
not
adult
businesses,
and
so
this
would
not
necessarily
apply
to
their
operations.
V
Their
dancers
are
generally
closed
as
far
as
I
know,
and
so
it
doesn't
constitute
an
adult
business
per
se.
So.
F
And
that
was
going
to
be
a
question
right
so
right.
The
goal
is
not
to
have
those
be
adult
businesses,
but
the
way
we
have
a
strip
club
defined
right
where
you
have
to
be
covered,
there's
no
difference
in
what
the
coverings
are,
so
they,
it
seems
totally
inconsistent
that
we're
allow
one
has
to
be
defined
one
way
and
the
other
is
to
find
differently.
So
if
we
are
gonna
incorporate
strip
clubs
and
we
they
shouldn't,
really
have
any
different
rules
in
bars
where
people
are
wearing
actually
the
same
amount
of
clothes.
Q
F
F
You
know
sometimes
a
venue
like
a
what
we're
now
calling
a
sex
venue
becomes
a
safe
place
for
people
to
go
after
bars,
closed
versus
the
wash
or
a
park,
for
example,
and
I
think
our
residents,
we
sometimes
get
complaints
about
people
in
parks
and
the
wash
so
I'm,
not
sure
that
may
be
a
prime
time
and
given
it's
all
indoors,
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
impact
is
to
other
businesses
when
they're
closed
right,
so
I
might
get
rid
of
that
or
change
those
or
have
flexibility
when
someone
applies
because
there
is
no
alcohol
allowed
in
those
hours.
A
If
not,
I
have
a
few
questions
and
again
Flynn
I
want
to
commend
you
and
staff
for
bringing
forward.
What's
a
difficult
subject
in
in
a
very
professional
fashion,
going
back
to
page
14
I
see
that
in
section
one
you
have
eliminated
a
number
of
things
and
included
in
that
is
pederasty
and
pedophilia.
V
Those
two
should
remain
in
the
list:
I
I.
Think
as
we
go
through
and
change
the
language
here
to
more
medically
accurate
terms,
as
has
been
recommended,
we
can
also
make
sure
that
we
are
protecting
things
that
need
to
be
protected
and
those
two
that
you've
pointed
out
are
ones
that
should
probably
remain
in
there
I.
G
If,
if
I
might
on
those
issues,
we
might
actually
want
to
add
some
language
that
those
are
prohibited
because
they
are
prohibited
under
both
state
and
federal
law.
And
so
we
don't
want
to
put
them
back
in
and
suggest
that
a
business
which
is
now
going
to
be
allowed
can
include
that
type
of
material.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
Ballinger
I
think
we
need
to
be
abundantly
clear
that
these
are
prohibited
activities
at
all
times.
Further
up
in
that
section,
you've
eliminated
buttocks
is
there
and
it
does.
Is
the
intent
to
well
tell
me
what
your
intent
is.
V
Trying
to
distinguish
our
bars
and
the
events
that
they
offer
as
we
had
in
public
testimony
at
the
last
city
council
meeting,
there
were
a
number
of
patrons
who
expressed
concern
that
perhaps
they
could
be
arrested
wearing
a
jock
strap
from
their
car
to
the
bar
facility
itself,
where
they
may
have
an
underwear
night,
and
so
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
proposing
to
take
buttocks
out
is
exactly.
For
that
reason.
V
A
So
my
concern
is
I
appreciate
someone
going
from
their
car
directly
to
a
bar,
but
in
eliminating
this
we
open
it
up
to
confusion
on
a
very
broad
basis
and
I.
Don't
know
how
many
emails
I've
gotten
in
the
last
24
hours,
saying
that
we're
planning
to
to
make
it
possible
for
individuals
to
walk
down,
Palm,
Canyon,
so
I
I'm
concerned
about
this
language.
Okay
and.
F
Amir
can
I
ask
a
follow-up
for
the
chief
or
WC
manager,
so
someone
wearing
a
thong
bikini,
which
would
expose
the
same
amount?
F
F
So
I
mean
that
would
I
think
it's
sort
of
going
for
for
that
right
versus
the
sexual
parts
that
are
potentially
sexual,
which
is
what
I
suggested
adding
in,
but
that
was
that
was
the
reasoning
right,
because
a
lot
of
cities
don't
have
that
outdated
rule.
U
Yeah,
if
I
can
just
cut
to
the
chase
of
what
we're
dealing
with
here,
I
think
a
lot
of
our
rules
on
the
books
are
absurd
in
context
of
what
actually
happens
at
any
given
show
in
Palm
Springs
On,
Any
Given
night,
and
so
if
you've
attended,
Splash
House,
which
I
have
I've
seen
many
a
thong
on
all
different
genders
and
that's
just
happening
and
and
that's
you
know,
Society
has
sort
of
updated
where
we
were
in
the
90s
and
remember
back
in
Palm
Springs,
the
anti-thong
ordinance
and
some
of
these
anti-
others
anti-nudity
was
really
in
a
reaction
to
shut
down
spring
break
and
you'll,
see
I.
U
U
If
you
go,
you
know
to
a
club
nightclub
here,
like
Hunters,
you
are
seeing
people
in
thong,
underwear
or
jock
straps,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
say
you
know
we
can
talk
about
it
in
circles,
but
really
it's
important
to
say
a
lot
of
this
is
happening,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
modernized
in
a
way
that
is
consistent
in
my
opinion,
with
what's
happening
and
allowing
some
of
that
activity.
U
Everyone
comes
to
you
and
the
public
was
really
concerned
that
the
show
was
shut
down
because
the
performer
was
showing
their
top
their
breasts
and
it
was
actually
a
trans
performer,
so
we're
just
getting
into
a
lot
of
conversations
around
equity
and
equality
and
gender.
That
I
want
to
say,
but
I
think
it
is
important
to
have
these
clear
definitions.
U
So
people
know
what
is
and
what
isn't
allowed
both
in
these
sex
venues,
but
also
you
know,
I'm
interested
in
also
updating
and
modernizing
our
public
nudity
ordinance
to
just
be
consistent
with
state
law,
because
we
are
seeing
a
lot
of
those
conversations
in
other
cities.
Take
those
actions
to
make
them
less
inequitable
and
discriminatory.
W
Can
I
just
ask
on
page
14
of
the
staff
report
items
one
through
eight?
Those
are
definitions
right
and
are
those
definitions
that
are
prohibited.
I'm
I'm
just
unclear
about
what
they
mean.
V
So
they
are
definitions
of
activities
that
may
or
may
not
be
permitted
at
adult
businesses.
So
this
section
pertains
specifically
to
adult
businesses
you'll
see
in
other
definitions
in
terms
of
what
an
adult
oriented
business
is
or
what
adult
entertainment
is
that
we
refer
to
specified
sexual
activities
or
specified
anatomical
parts,
and
so
what
this
does?
This
definition
of
both
of
those
things
on
page
14
are
used
elsewhere
in
defining
specific
adult
oriented
businesses.
W
So
just
I
I
want
to
Flynn.
Thank
you,
but
I
want
to
be
very
clear,
so
we're
taking
this
number
number
four,
for
example.
Where
would
that
be
later
in
the?
How
would
that
apply.
V
In
terms
of
the
definition,
if
I
could
go
back
to
page
11,
the
definition
of
adult
entertainment
establishment,
it
defines
that
as
being
a
bar,
lounge
nightclub,
Live,
Theater
Etc,
which
is
distinguished
or
characterized
by
an
emphasis
on
or
relating
to
specified
sexual
activities
or
specified
anatomical
parts.
V
Primarily
the
difference
is-
and
this
is
also
based
on
gender-
is
what
is
permissible
as
part
of
the
entertainment,
so,
for
example,
and
because
we
have
a
preponderance
of
venues
that
cater
to
a
gay
clientele.
V
As
has
been
mentioned,
we
typically
have
some
type
of
male
dancers
at
those
clubs,
however,
they
are
typically
at
least
partially
clothed
if
we
were
to
go
to
the
typical
strip
club
that
we
might
see
elsewhere,
where
there
are
female
dancers
that
they
would
be
permitted
to
not
have
a
top
and,
depending
on
the
ordinance,
would
still
have
to
have
a
bottom
on,
so
it
gets
into
the
difference
between
the
bars
that
may
have
some
type
of
dancer
or
entertainment
and
the
degree
of
nudity
that
would
be
associated
with
that.
W
So
my
concern
is
one
I
think
the
question
was
earlier:
it's
really
not
about
what
we
currently
do.
It's
about
having
the
laws
on
the
book
to
make
sure
that
we
can't
arrest
somebody
for
something.
So
the
administration
could
change.
The
police
chief
could
change
anything,
could
change
on
that
and
and
so
the
one
through
eight
I'm
a
little
it's
a
little
problematic
for
me
and
I'll
give
you
number
five.
W
So
you
know,
that's
that's
you
know,
that's
a
concern,
and,
and
so,
and
that
goes
with
a
lot
of
them
and
I
guess
many
of
them
are
might
be
done
in
a
in
a
back
room
of
a
bar
and
obviously
that
doesn't
apply,
but
if
they
do
that
on
a
regular
basis,
a
monthly
basis
and
have
a
seminar
and
teach
people
you
know,
how
does
that
apply?
Are
they
then
an
adult
business?
W
You
know,
and
would
they
have
to
apply
for
a
special
permit.
I
I
agree
with
both
council
member
Coors
and
I
agree
with
council
member
hostage
that
I
think
it's
just
it's
Antiquated
and
it
really
really
needs
to
be
updated
to
to
Modern
Times
And
to
the
freedoms
that
this
community
has
fought
so
hard
for
for
decades
so
hard
for
for
decades.
So.
U
You,
madam
mayor,
so
sorry,
sometimes
we
do
split
up
legislative
items
and
take
questions
and
discussion,
and
sometimes
we
don't
so
I
apologize.
You
wanted
to
do
it
that
way.
I
have
a
question
about
the
businesses
selling
sexually
oriented
merchandise,
and
so
that
this
was
something
I
learned
today
that
they're
limited
to
10,
and
that
is
why
it
makes
sense
why
their
stores
are
the
way
they
are
the
retail
establishments
I've
seen
in
the
city.
U
So
can
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
20
and
how
you
came
to
that
number.
Is
that
the
industry
standard?
Should
it
be
higher
than
that
I
mean
I'm
sort
of
looking
at
you
know
yeah.
What
is
the
consistent
rules
that
other
cities
are
applying
because
it
does
seem
like
there's,
potentially
some
level
of
animus
in
the
outdated
ordinances
and
the
terms
that
they're,
using
especially
about
gay
men
and
so
anyway,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
removing
any
of
the
Animus
or
anti-lgbtq
potential
there
in
our
laws.
U
So
yeah,
can
you
just
explain
from
10
to
20
percent
and
what
the
industry
standard
is
that
you've
seen
and
you've
worked
in
Las
Vegas
too
right
so
you're
one
of
the
best
people
to
advise
the
city
here,
I.
V
I
don't
know
if
I
want
that
to
should
be
on
my
resume
per
se,
but
in
looking
at
our
current
standard
of
ten
percent,
I
will
say
just
again
based
on
professional
experience.
It
seems
a
little
low
to
me
and
in
looking
at
other
communities
and
how
they
Define
what
an
adult
business
is
versus
those
that
aren't,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
had
recommend
raising
it
to
20.
That
was
a
standard
that
we
had
in
Las,
Vegas
and
believe
it
or
not.
V
We
still
do
have
rather
stringent
standards
in
Las
Vegas
relative
to
adult
businesses,
but
it
was
a
little
bit
more
generous
in
terms
of
the
threshold
that
we
use
to
define
an
adult
business
and
again
just
kind
of
doing
a
visual
survey
of
existing
retail
stores
I
find
that
20
percent
would
be
a
more
agreeable
standard.
I
don't
see
that
there
are
any
major
issues
with
our
existing
businesses
on
arenas,
for
example,
or
on
Sunny
Dunes
I
I,
don't
think
that
they
should
become
adult
businesses
and
so
allowing
them
a
little
bit
more.
U
See
so
this
is
the
level
where
a
business
then
would
become
an
adult
oriented
business.
So
if
you
go
to
a
store
where
it
does
have
a
room
or
a
small
portion,
if
it's
less
than
that,
20,
then
they're
not
an
adult
oriented
business,
but
if
it's
more
than
20
percent,
then
they
are
limited
to
being
in
those
confined
areas.
U
V
And
usually
for
our
zoning
code,
we
do
have
a
number
of
Zone
districts
where
there's
limited
Parcels
within
that
zone
District.
This
is
the
case
both
with
the
C2
Zone
and
the
highway
commercial
Zone,
something
that
we'll
look
at
as
we
get
to
the
zoning
code,
update
to
perhaps
streamline
our
Zone
districts,
but
for
the
time
being,
these
are
the
areas
where
they
would
be
permitted.
So.
U
V
Correct
because
the
C1
Zone
District
occurs
primarily
along
major
thoroughfares
that
it
really
would
not
have
the
benefit
of
adding
to
the
number
of
parcels
where
adult
businesses
could
be
located.
Also
because
there
are
a
number
of
adjacency
issues
with
C1
districts.
I
think
we'd
have
some
additional
issues
with
adjacency
to
residential,
where
residential
areas
are
immediately
behind
c1's
own
properties.
V
U
And
then
this
map-
it
actually
isn't
everywhere,
for
example,
that
you
see
the
purple
or
you
see
the
blue,
like
you
stated,
because
there
you
have
to
exempt
the
parcels
on
a
major
thoroughfare
or
ones
that
are
along
the
adjacent
to
residential.
So
it's
even
smaller
than
this
map
here
and
my
point
is
just
it's
a
lot
of
work
for
very
few
Parcels
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
in
this.
V
So
if
we
want
to
look
at
rather
than
modifying
the
separation
distance
in
particularly
looking
at
the
separation
from
residential
areas,
what
we
might
Institute
is
a
similar
waiver
process
that
we
currently
use
for
cannabis,
dispensaries
and
lounges,
whereby,
if
they
are
within
that
separation
distance,
they
would
file
an
administrative
minor
modification
application.
There
would
be
notification
to
properties
within
500
feet.
The
item
would
then
be
considered
by
the
city
council.
V
V
U
It
and
then
I,
always
five
years,
I
haven't
learned,
I,
always
say
my
final
question:
I
have
one
more
question,
so
I
see
that
the
permit
required
on
page
14.
So
it
says
that
the
city
requires
both
an
adult
oriented
business
permit
and
a
business
license
from
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
Is
there
a
reason
why
we're
requiring
two
licenses
or
permits
is
that
to
track
which
businesses
are
adult
oriented?
Or
can
you
explain
the
need
for
both.
V
I,
don't
believe
that
there
would
be
a
need
for
both.
We
could
actually
simplify
that
and
have
the
business
license
serve
as
the
adult
business
permit
as
part
of
the
licensing
process.
We
would
review
you
compliance
with
this
ordinance
anyway,
and
so
I
think
what
we
could
do
is
just
standardize
it
into
the
business
license
process.
Thank.
U
You
are
all
about
admin,
relieving
administrative
burden,
oh
and
then
I
have
one
other
question.
If
I
can
so
other
cities
we've
sorry,
we've
talked
about
Cathedral,
City
and
other
cities
which
are
competing
with
us
for
adult
oriented
businesses
and
attracting
lgbtq
communities
and
by
the
way,
when
we're
working
on
the
mpox,
the
vaccine.
We
learned
a
lot
about
sex
tourism
in
the
Coachella
Valley
and
how
many
events
and
how
many
people
are
coming
to
the
Coachella
Valley.
So
we
actually
to
the
public
comment.
U
We
know
that's
already
an
industry
that
is
happening
here.
We
want
to
make
sure
it's
safe
and
regulated.
So
do
you
know,
did
you
research?
What
Cathedral,
City
and
other
cities
have
in
terms
of
a
public
nudity
ordinance,
an
anti
you
know,
Banning
female
breasts,
Banning
thongs
and
then
the
adult
oriented
businesses.
V
In
terms
of
adult
oriented
business,
ordinances,
I
primarily
looked
at
larger
cities
that
have
recently
updated
their
ordinances,
and
so
for
that
reason,
San
Francisco
is
probably
the
most
current
in
terms
of
revisions
to
their
ordinance.
I
also
looked
at
Los
Angeles
and
San
Diego,
just
as
comparables
I'll
confess
that
I
didn't
look
at
Cathedral
City
and
all
apologize
I
don't
want
to
throw
shade
on
Cathedral
City.
But
perhaps
we
can
look
at
that
if
we
bring
this
item
back
to
you
in
terms
of
how
they
are
regulating
public
nudity
Etc.
Thank.
U
You
I
just
thank
you
for
that
and
sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
I'm,
just
thinking
that
this
has
been.
This
has
been
deemed
One,
Way
sort
of
in
the
newspaper,
but
I
think.
Actually,
a
lot
of
cities
would
just
be
consistent
with
state
law,
for
example,
for
public
nudity,
and
it's
in
fact
unique
that
Palm
Springs
has
our
own
ordinance.
V
A
W
Go
ahead,
thank
you,
the
the
former
Gas
building
on
Sunrise.
V
W
W
V
W
So,
which
is
a
you
know,
something
I
think
we
need
to
be
consistent
or
it
would
be
nice
if
we're
consistent
across
the
board
on
that.
If
we
allowed
a
waiver
of
some
sort
they're
in
a
commercial
Zone,
regardless
of
the
specific
plan
they're
in
we
could.
But
you
know,
because
right
now
it
says
they
can't
be
in
that
zone
that
commercial
Zone.
But
if
we
allowed
a
possibility
of
a
waiver
like
we
do
with
cannabis,
they
potentially
could
be.
W
V
We
could
potentially
do
that.
Okay,
I
will
suggest
that
the
section
14
plan
was
done
in
consultation
with
the
tribe,
okay
and
largely
done
by
their
staff,
and
so
I
think
we
would
need
to
have
discussions
with
the
tribal
council
if
we
want
to
allow
adult
businesses
within
the
section
14
specific
plan
that
is
perhaps
distinct
from
the
other
specific
plans
we
have,
such
as
the
downtown
specific
plan,
where
really
only
the
city
is
the
one
who
reviews
the
regulations
and
can
make
modifications
therein.
W
You
know
the
city
of
San
Francisco
is
an
example,
has
many
special
events
where
they
do
various
things
about
nudity,
I,
I
agree.
We
need
to
update
our
nudity
laws
and
we
have
special
events
and
you
will
find
people
wearing
all
kinds
of
things
Even
in
our
gay
pride
parade
right
and
it's
part
of
the
celebration
and
the
freedom
of
the
body
and
the
whole
thing
so
I
see
I,
didn't
see
a
section
in
here
on
special
events
and
I.
W
I
really
don't
want
anyone
to
get
arrested,
for
you
know
violating
something.
That's
so
commonly
done
already.
What.
V
We
might
want
to
do
and
based
on
some
of
the
suggestions
and
changes
that
are
being
proposed
by
council
members.
I
see
that
we'll
have
to
come
back
for
first
reading
again.
These
aren't
simple
changes
that
we
can
just
do
at
second
reading
and
adopt.
So
what
I
might
recommend
with
that
in
terms
of
special
events,
if
we're
looking
at
making
modifications
to
our
public
nudity
ordinance,
I
believe
that's
the
section
where
we
would
want
to
include
that
language
and
we
can
look
at
other
communities
in
terms
of
how
they
do
that
for
their
events.
F
You,
maybe
we
can
Mr
Ballinger
can
join
us
again.
This
is
based
on
some
of
the
public
feedback.
I
got
including
some
folks
who
asked
why
we
can't
would
like
to
see
us
have
less
businesses
and
I
know.
You
touched
on
the
First
Amendment
for
being
specific,
can
you
touch
about
what
the
first
amendment
requires
of
a
municipality
regarding
adult
oriented
businesses,
so
the
Public's
aware
of
that.
G
Well,
the
primary
requirements
under
the
First
Amendment
are
that
we
allow
for
adequate
opportunities
for
those
businesses
that
are
protected
by
the
First
Amendment.
So
traditionally,
that's
been.
You
know,
adult
bookstores,
adult
theaters,
some
of
the
things
that
Mr
fagg
indicated
have
kind
of
Gone
by
the
wayside,
based
on
current
market
conditions.
So
you
have
to
have
enough
availability
of
of
land
and
spaces
within
the
city
for
those
businesses
to
operate
economically
and
then
also
the
first
amendment
has
been
interpreted
to
require
specificity
as
well
as
objectivity.
G
So
you
know
to
the
extent
the
council
is
interested
in
in
a
waiver
process
we're
going
to
have
to
live
by
a
higher
standard
than
we
are
under,
say
our
cannabis
ordinance,
because
cannabis
has
not
been
recognized
as
the
first
amendment
protected
activity
or
product.
G
So
if
the
council
gives
us
direction
to
come
back
with
a
waiver
process,
we're
going
to
have
to
be
fairly
objective
so
that
we
don't
invest
in
anybody,
whether
it's
a
council
or
a
commission
or
city
official
too
much
unbridled
discretion
is
the
term
that
courts
have
used.
Those
are
the
three
main
components
of
First
Amendment.
F
You
know
after
Thanksgiving
weekend,
I
think
this
has
been
on
our
Council
agenda
planning,
six
or
eight
months,
if
I'm
correct,
which
we
discussed
at
every
council
meeting,
and
we
had
the
first
draft
ordinance
I
believe
the
first
week
of
September,
at
which
point
we
asked
to
be
delayed
for
a
couple
months
to
allow
for
more
input.
Is
that
correct?
F
G
F
A
You
thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you.
A
couple
of
questions
that
I
have
and
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
map
that
you
showed
us.
That
was
thank
you
so
currently
in
the
sunny
Dunes
area,
which
is
the
brownish
color
CM.
V
A
And
if
we
were
to
adopt
the
changes
that
are
proposed
in
the
staff
report,
you
would
add
the
adjacent
areas
that
are
labeled
C2.
V
I
sorry
I
had
questions
about
whether
we
were
too
restrictive
in
terms
of
the
areas
where
these
businesses
could
be
located
and
So.
Based
on
that
comment,
I
looked
at
areas
that
might
be
good
Alternatives
in
perhaps
expanding
where
adult
businesses
could
be
located,
as
I
had
mentioned,
even
expanding
to
the
C2
Zone
and
the
highway
commercial
Zone,
it
doesn't
substantially
add
to
the
number
of
parcels
and
I.
Don't
know
that
it.
It
benefits
us.
A
So
I
do
have
some
familiarity
with
the
sunny
Dunes
District.
It
is
mine
and
not
all
of
the
businesses
there
are
locations
are
currently
occupied,
so
we
still
have
vacancies.
Have
you
run
into
issues
of
applicants
coming
and
simply
not
being
able
to
find
a
space
that
they
could
operate
their
business
where
it
is
currently
permitted.
V
A
Which
would
be
altered
if
we
were
to
adopt
the
not
adjacent
standard
for
sunny
Dunes?
Is
that
correct.
A
Is
an
incredibly
unique
area
and
well
I
have
many
concerns
about
many
parts
of
this
proposed
ordinance.
I
am
not
as
concerned
when
it
comes
to
a
non-adjacent
standard
in
Sunny
Dunes.
A
Moving
on
to
the
other
map,
where
you're
suggesting
that
we
would
add
the
h,
C
highly
commercial
Zone,
the
M2
Zone,
that's
immediately
adjacent
that
is
currently
permitted
area.
Yes,.
A
Do
we
have
any
up
there?
No,
we
do
not,
then
I
guess
rhetorically
I'm
asking.
Why
would
we
expand
and
let
me
go
beyond
that?
What
strikes
me
with
grave
concern
regarding
adding
in
those
areas
is,
they
are
immediately
adjacent
to
the
freeway
and
would
formulate
potentially
a
very
different
impression
as
individuals
enter
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
C
A
There
are
limitations
in
terms
of
what
we
can
do
in
terms
of
restricting
advertising,
but
what
adds
to
that
is,
as
one
drives
closer
to
where
those
establishments
are
going
to
be
what
we
tend
to
have
along
the
freeways
is
advertising
making
it
clear
where
someone
can
go
and
that's
a
legal
right,
but
we're
certainly
changing
the
character
of
the
approach.
One
has
to
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs
and
I.
Think
we
need
to
be
honest
with
ourselves
that
that
is
what
we
would
be
doing
if
I
get
asked
the
police
chief.
A
A
couple
of
questions.
Do
you
have
any
concerns
regarding
specifically
the
changes
that
are
being
considered
in
essentially
eliminating
our
public
nudity
ordinance.
Y
So
we
get
a
lot
of
complaints
from
community
members
about
activities,
for
instance
along
Riverside
Drive
and
with
a
Footbridge
where
people
go
to
hook
up
and
and
sometimes
occasionally
are
in
just
just
different
stages
of
dress.
It
becomes
a
concern,
so
those
are,
the
kind
of
things
will
make
it
very
difficult
to
enforce
in
a
public
space.
Y
Should
there
be
a
change
in
addition
to
that,
depending
on
what
council
decides
to
do
in
terms
of
the
limitations
of
that
and
what
gets
changed
if
it
was
full
nudity,
for
instance,
which
I
don't
think
anybody
is
at
this
point
proposing
what
would
that
mean
in
adjacent
to
schools
and
public
right-of-ways.
A
Y
There
were
not
so
all
right
if
I
might
just
add
one
thing:
mattamere
and
that
is
we'd,
be
happy
to
work
with
Deputy
city
manager
to
make
sure
that
the
language
is
in
a
position
that
would
a
eliminate
things
that
are
currently
illegal
at
the
state
level
as
and
then
in
addition
to
making
sure
that
it
would
protect
the
things
that
the
communities
deems
important.
Let
me
get
it
back
to
that.
Okay,.
U
Y
Under
314
of
the
penal
code,
it's
a
specific
intent
crime,
in
other
words,
that
you're
you're
using
your
genitalia
and
exposed
in
a
manner
to
for
sexual
arousal
and
that
there's
jury
instructions
that
go
with
it
as
well
as
the
state
law,
so
that,
in
order
for
us
to
arrest
somebody
either
the
state
law
they
just
could
not
be
standing
there
naked.
For
instance,
there
has
to
be
a
sexual
intent
behind
it
and
which
is
normally
a
person
masturbating
in
public
or
manipulating
themselves
for
the
purpose
of
sexual
arousal.
Y
U
Thanks
so
I'm
just
trying
to
understand,
that's
really
helpful
and
we
want
to
make
sure
you
have
the
tools
that
you
need
for
those
crimes,
but
we
also
want
to
avoid
sort
of
what
councilmember
Woods
was
alluding
to.
You
know
things
that
are
not
crimes
or
that
our
community
has
been
criminalized
for
that.
We
no
longer
want
to
do
so.
What
what
do
we
need
to
add
and
what
part
of
the
public
nudity
that
ordinance
that
we
have
on
the
books
now
do
we
need
to
retain
is?
Y
I
think
just
the
mere
fact
that
somebody
has
has
exposed
their
entire
genitalia
in
a
public
place
and
then
certainly
Council
would
need
to
decide.
Does
that
include
the
breast
area
from
women,
for
example,
because
you
know
for
men
it's
permissible,
but
for
women
it's
not,
and
we
and
we
understand
the
concerns
on
that,
as
well
as
the
buttocks
region.
Y
To
me,
the
issue
is:
do
we
want
somebody
exposing
themselves
to
children
and
and
what
does
that
also
mean
for
public
health,
for
instance,
if
you
can
be
naked
and
walk
into
a
restaurant
and
eat,
so
those
become
the
issues
that
I
guess
that
I
would
be
concerned
about
and
to
be
articulate
on
and
and
limiting,
if
possible?
Thank.
W
Just
to
follow
up
on
the
mayor's
comment,
the
signage.
If
I'm
reading
this
correctly,
the
adult
businesses
along
the
freeway,
now
it
still
has
to
comply
with
our
sign
ordinance.
V
W
W
On
page
two,
halfway
down,
there's
three
bullet
points:
I
think
it
was
just
an
oversight,
but
you
have
ten
percent
we're
really
talking
about
twenty
percent
and
a
change
in
the
square.
Footage
is
what
right
that
just
was.
W
Yes,
there
and
I
think
council,
member
holstich
talked
about
state
law,
I
I,
think
if
somebody
is
sitting
in
a
car
naked,
the
only
problem
that
I
would
see
and
I'd
ask
the
chief
is:
if
they
were
in
a
state
of
sexual
arousal
right,
then
then
state
law
would
allow
you
to
arrest
them.
A
F
You
know,
I
I,
think
one
thing
is
and
I
understand
your
point
mayor
on
the
police
aren't
arresting
people,
but
it
shouldn't
still
be
on
the
books
right
and
that's
just
you
know
and
I
think
especially
for
right.
Both
you
know
were
thongs
were
banned
for
women.
You
know
shouldn't
still
be
on
the
books
and
we
allow
a
lot
of
that
now
anyway.
F
So
we
shouldn't
have
laws
on
other
books
for
things
that
saying
it's
illegal
when
it
really
isn't
so
I
think
we
should
need
to
clean
it
up
for
that
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
better
way
of
treating
things
equally
right.
I
think
you
know,
I
mean
we
know.
People
are
dancing
nightly
in
jock
straps
right
for
entertainment
and
venues,
but
according
to
this,
that
would
make
them
an
adult
business.
So
I
there's
a
lot
more
cleanup.
We
need
to
do.
This
is
a
great
start.
F
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
on
this.
You
know
so
I'm,
just
trying
to
figure
out
you
know.
Are
there
things
we
can
give
clear,
Direction
on
tonight
or
even
decide
tonight
and
other
things
that
you
need
more
time
with,
so
maybe
that'll
help
guide
what
we
do
moving
forward.
If
that
makes
sense,
because
we
don't
want
you
to
go
back
and
then
you
know
start
over
twice,
so
how
can
we
help
you.
V
F
F
That
makes
it
seem
that
we
don't
necessarily
need
the
HC
Zone
at
the
moment,
right
I
think
if
we
did
for
First
Amendment
reasons
you
know,
but
given
we
have
land
that
is
not
being
used
in
a
similar
area.
My
inclination
on
that
is
not
on
the
other
one
because
we're
not
allowing
adjacent
or
across
the
street
we're
only
allowing
very
few
more
businesses
right.
F
But
you
know
you
have
this
one
little
section
of
Sunny
Dunes
and
do
we
necessarily
want
them
all
put
in
together
there
right
so
I'm
more
open
to
that,
but
we're
talking
when
you
start
looking
at
the
adjacency
issue
and
the
across
the
street
issue,
it's
probably
five
or
less
that
could
possibly
be
used
so
so
I'm
open
to
that
one
I'm,
not
it's
not
a
major
number
more,
but
I'm
open
to
it.
So
that's
my
view
on
those
two
on
that
question,
but
we'll
let
other
people
weigh
it.
A
I
I
can
do
some
counting
and
I
think
I'm
going
to
be
in
the
minority
on
a
couple
of
these
things,
but
I
will
not
support
any
extension
of
into
any
new
areas
in
the
city.
F
Okay,
just
a
clarification
Flynn
are
we
putting
any
adult
business
would
fit
into
that.
So
this
is
so
a
retail
store,
for
example,
right
with
more
than
20
percent
would
also
be
excluded
if
we
didn't
allow
it
in
that
area.
Correct,
okay,
so
I'm,
clear
we're
talking
about
everything
just
so
the
Public's
aware
of
that.
W
I
think
we
have
enough
rules
and
regulations
in
place
that
we
could
monitor
its
use
and
I
think
you
talked
about,
maybe
even
a
cup
or
just
an
exemption.
However,
it
works
out
with
the
city
attorney
for
First
Amendment
rights.
U
I
also
support
expansion,
as
sort
of
a
dramatic
word
for
allowing
consistent
use
in
the
same
area
with
maybe
five
more
Parcels
but
including
the
C2
Zone,
and
allowing
a
waiver
process
I'm
persuaded
by
the
mayor's
comments
about
the
HC
Zone
and
the
impact
on
the
trying
to
make
sure
I
say
this
in
a
First
Amendment
friendly
way,
where
we're
required
to
allow
all
types
of
businesses
and
in
certain
areas,
but
I'm
not
expanding
to
the
HC
Zone
at
this
time,
I'm
open
to
it
initially
I
was
open
to
and
I
am
open
to
expanding,
to
see
one
as
well
with
a
cup
process
but
hearing
from
City
staff
that
that's
not
recommended,
because
it
really
isn't,
though
it
sounds
like
I'm
not
proposing
this,
but
I
know
other
cities
do
allow
on
their
Frontage.
U
V
V
U
H
Sure
I'm
fine,
with
this
C2
Zone,
considering
it's
just
a
few
areas,
it's
a
pretty
minor
change
and
it's
consistent
with.
What's
already
in
that
area,.
V
W
I
ask
a
question
on
that,
so
I
thought
it
was
not
adjacent
to
versus.
Is
that
what
you
know?
That's
what
we're
looking
at
to
accept
not
adjacent
to.
So
in
a
couple
cases
along
the
wash,
you
know,
there's
quite
a
distance
between
the
sunny
Dunes
area
and
residential,
even
though
the
distance
may
not
be
there
so
I
would
support
that
aspect
of
it.
Now
let
the
rest
talk.
A
I
can
support
in
Sunny
Dunes,
not
adjacent.
We've
got
the
wash.
We've
got
a
very
unique
area
there
or
a
waiver
process.
One
of
the
advantages
of
the
waiver
process
is
everyone
gets
to
weigh
in.
A
The
type
of
facility
that
Mr
Thorne
operates
in
Los
Angeles,
in
that
what
we
have
clearly
found
is
that
brings
activity
indoors
that
far
too
often
is
taking
place
outdoors
and
in
public
places.
V
Foreign
and
then
finally,
I
think
the
public
nudity
ordinance
we've
taken
all
of
your
comments
down.
What
we
will
do
is
we
will
make
modifications
we'll
consult
with
the
police
chief,
as
well
as
reviewing
other
ordinances
from
local
communities
as
well,
and
we'll
come
back
with
some
modifications
to
our
existing
ordinance
and
give
you
that
language
to
look
at.
A
If
I
could,
in
respect
to
my
colleagues
and
to
the
staff
and
all
of
the
work,
that's
gone
into,
this
I
have
very
severe
concerns
regarding
the
direction
that
we're
proceeding.
We're
not
taking
a
vote
this
evening
that
will
come
back
at
a
later
date
and
I
appreciate
the
effort
to
accommodate
some
of
my
concerns.
I
do
not
want
to
mislead
anyone.
It
is
very
unlikely
that
I
will
vote
in
favor
of
this
ordinance
when
it
comes
back.
I
think
we
are
going
too
far
too
fast.
U
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
it's
hard
to
follow
that
with
my
specific
question,
but
when
you
bring
it
back,
I
might
be
here.
I
might
not,
but
could
you
consider
if
breastfeeding
is
currently
illegal
under
our
public
nudity
ordinance,
because
I
believe
it
might
be
in
the
way
that
it
defines
female
breasts?
Thank
you.
H
L
H
I've
certainly
had
experiences
that
would
not
fall
under
the
state
penal
code
here
in
Palm
Springs,
but
still
made
me
very
deeply
uncomfortable
and
was
clearly
meant,
as
harassment
in
the
case
that
I
experienced
so
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
things
like
that
were
covered
in
any
instance
that
any
law
or
ordinance
that
we
had
so
I
think
there
is
room
for
for
that.
Okay,.
V
W
I
add
a
couple
of
comments
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
page
13
I
think
we've
all
talked
about
the
one
through
eight
and
how
they
apply
page
14.
Excuse
me
the
one
through
eight
and
how
they
apply
and
if
they're
even
relevant
today
and
I
think
the
mayor
talked
about
pedophilia
and
changing
that.
But
I
I
really
want
to
know
more
about
how
that
applies.
W
We
talked
about
special
events
as
well
and
then
on
page
16
number
13,
adult
Orient
business
should
not
just
play
any
sexual
oriented
material,
I'm,
not
clear
what
that
means.
You
know
we
have
several
of
them.
Currently
several
novelty
shops
on
Palm
Canyon.
We
have
Hollywood
just
opened
up
on
tacwits.
What
is,
and
what
isn't
is
a
a
harness
is
a
paddle
is
any
of
that
sexually
oriented
or
is
it?
You
know
just
be
very
clear
or
is
it
something
that's
more
insertive
that
we're
concerned
about.
U
F
And
also
on
page
four
yeah
I
know
we
we
so
you're
going
to
update
all
the
terminology
which
is
appreciated
and
I.
Think
the
sorry,
your
idea
on
the
best
way
to
bring
back
sort
of
the
two
under
specified,
anatomical
Parts,
and
maybe
it's
just
bring
back
options
so
on
first
reading,
Council,
whether
us
or
the
next
Council,
has
options
to
consider
right.
U
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
I
I,
hear
that
the
mayor
is
has
a
differing
view
on
this.
What
I
heard,
or
at
least
what
I
might
propose
if
the
council
majority
of
council
supports
for
the
public
nudity
ordinance
so
modifying
our
existing
Palm
Springs
ordinance
and
leaving
it
so
that
we
have
one
but
just
specific
to
what
the
police
chief
advises.
He
needs
in
terms
of
genitals
and
excluding
the
you
know
female
breasts
or
buttocks
when
it's
not
used
in
a
sexually
suggested
sexual
manner.
U
W
U
W
U
A
A
Z
Absolutely
good
evening,
Madam
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
tem
and
members
of
the
city
council,
it's
great
to
be
back
in
front
of
you.
So
soon
I
am
going
to
talk
you
through
an
update
on
progress
toward
climate
action,
which
I
know
updates
on
various
items
have
been
requested
by
the
council
over
the
past
couple
of
months.
I'm
pleased
to
kind
of
report.
You
know
both
what
I've
been
up
to
and
what
I
know.
I
will
admit
off
the
top
that
there
are
certain
things.
Z
Z
Take
questions
and
discuss
anything
in
particular
that
you
might
want
to
know
more
about
so
I
want
to
kind
of
start
off
just
by
positioning
where
we
are
just
kind
of
locally
and
nationally
and
internationally,
a
little
bit
talk
a
little
bit
about
progress
to
date,
both
specifically
on
the
council's
priorities
around
climate
and
environmental
action
and
then
also
on
the
climate
action
roadmap,
which
those
two
things
are
very
closely
intertwined
but
have
a
couple
of
key
differences.
Z
Then
talk
about
kind
of
how
I
and
the
team
hope
to
spend
the
first
bit
of
2023,
which
particular
things
we
want
to
focus
on.
Just
as
a
highlight
you
know
not
as
an
exclusive
but
just
kind
of
as
preview
and
then
kind
of
spend
a
little
bit
of
time.
Talking
about
enforcement
in
particular,
so
I
know.
We
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
leaf
blowers,
just
kind
of
hear
where
the
council
is
thinking
on
a
couple
of
issues
there
for
some
some
Direction,
but
because
you
know
issues
around
enforcement
will
always
come
up.
Z
So
I
wanted
to
kind
of
dive
in
on
those
a
little
bit
so
without
further
Ado
I.
Also
love
really
bright,
colors
on
slides,
so
hopefully
that's
not
too
dizzying.
So
there's
kind
of
four
ways
that
I've
been
thinking
about.
You
know
how
to
how
we
situate
our
priorities
these
days,
so
the
first
that
I
want
to
highlight
here
is
progress
locally.
So
you
know
thanks
to
the
efforts
of
this
and
previous
councils,
current
and
previous
City
staff,
really
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
Z
Both
has
firmly
established
its
reputation
as
a
leader
in
climate
action
in
the
environmental
space,
but
continues
to
uphold
that.
So
you
know,
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
highlight
here
you
know,
is
and
then
also
not
to
to
miss
the
contributions
of
our
sustainability
commission
as
well,
some
members
of
whom
have
joined
us
tonight,
so
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
is
actually
on
target
with
its
goals.
This
is
not
common
in
municipalities
to
hit
goals
on
time.
Z
When
it
comes
to
climate
action,
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
has
actually
done
so
so
I
believe
when
you,
when
you
discuss
the
climate
action
roadmap
last
year,
you
were
able
to
dig
into
the
fact
that
we
did
reach
our
2020
goal
on
time,
which
was
to
hit
1990
emissions
levels,
which
is
roughly
500
000
metric
tons
of
carbon
dioxide
equivalent
per
year.
The
main
reason
that
this
was
able
to
happen
was
desert.
Z
Community
energy
coming
online
and
taking
20
of
our
emissions
out
in
one
Fell,
Swoop
I
think
I
may
have
mentioned
this
last
time.
That
does
not
happen.
Normally,
that
is
a
you
know.
A
Real,
Testament
I
think
to
the
the
courage
and
innovation
of
everyone
who
has
been
part
of
this
process
in
the
city.
So
so
it's
great
that
we've
met
those
goals
and
so
I
think
we're
starting
on
a
really
strong
footing.
However,
we
that
does
not
obviate
the
continued
need
for
continued
action
at
the
local
State
national
International
level.
Z
We
will
need
all
of
the
tools
at
our
disposal
to
continue
to
meet
this
crisis
head
on,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
this
Council
and
our
commission
looked
at
over
the
summer
is
our
vulnerability
assessment
update.
So
the
latest
vulnerability
assessment,
as
you
all
probably
remember-
has
Palm
Springs
reaching
25
days
a
year
above
120
degrees
by
2050.,
which
is
I
mean
just
kind
of
mind-boggling,
especially
when
we
think
about
everything
from
extreme
heat
impacts.
Z
You
know
we
do
have
a
an
older
population
here
in
Palm
Springs,
who
tend
to
Bear
those
impacts.
The
most
firmly
you
know
are
you
know
what
we
do
here
in
Palm
Springs
also
has
Ripple
effects
around
the
valley
and
around
the
region,
so
you
know
we're
going
to
continue.
You
know
when
we
think
about
hitting
our
1990
goal.
That's
great.
Our
2030
goal
is
40
more
percent
emissions
reduction.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
though
we
are
on
really
strong
footing
to
be
able
to
do
it.
Z
State
goals,
so
the
state
has
also
recently
increased
its
goals
in
line
with
updated
climate
science.
So
the
state
is
now
targeting
carbon
neutrality
five
years
earlier.
So
now
by
2045
this,
the
governor
has
some
executive
orders
that
push
from
40
emissions
reductions
by
2032
a
target
of
48.
Z
So
a
lot
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
later
in
the
presentation.
A
lot
of
what
we
do
here
is
is
interconnected
with
what's
happening
regionally,
because
there
are
certain
things
within
our
jurisdiction,
certain
things
outside
of
it,
so
making
sure
that
we're
in
good
coordination
with
those
different
bodies
continues
to
be
very
important.
So
we
can
understand
who's
going
to
move
on
what
who
helps
whom
with
what
who
needs
to
do?
What?
Z
When
so,
the
state
will
continue
to
to
set
a
good
Baseline
framework
for
us
I
think
so
we'll
have
some
things
that
we
need
to
do
to
hit
that
Target,
but
they
them
hitting
that
Target
will
also
help
us
hit
our
targets
and
then
federally.
You
know
this
is
a
change
from
the
past
few
years,
there's
a
very
Rosy
Federal
landscape,
at
least
for
the
foreseeable
future,
from
the
IRA
and
the
Iha.
Z
There's
going
to
be
an
unprecedented
amount
of
federal
funding,
available,
largely
that's
being
distributed
through
States,
but
that
regions
and
localities
will
have
a
pretty
large
size
of
That
Pie
as
well,
and
then
there
will
also
be
incentives
that
will
just
be
available
to
people
in
general,
so
figuring
out
how
we
help
residents
visitors,
community
members.
Take
advantage
of
those
will
be
of
utmost
importance,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
just
to
kind
of
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
on
framing.
Z
So
this
is
these:
are
the
council's
climate
priorities
priority
number
two,
which
is
a
full
25
of
the
priorities
which
I'm
very
grateful
for,
gives
us
a
lot
of
Runway
and
a
lot
of
specific
action
to
do
so.
The
extraordinary
level
of
specificity
I
think
that
these
plans
have
in
Palm
Springs
gives
us
also
a
really
strong
footing.
Z
You
know
it
being
very
cognizant
of
what
is
within
our
tool
set
here
to
do
as
a
municipality
and
things
that
can
happen
now,
so
that
it's
easy
for
us
to
take
these
bigger
actions
later
so
I
want
to
just
kind
of
talk
through
very
quickly
what
these
generally
are
and
I'll
get
into
more
detail
on
these
later
on.
Z
So
the
first
piece
here,
accelerating
implementation
of
our
climate
action
plan
or
roadmap,
so
thankful
for
the
council
and
staff
support
on
budgeting
for
additional
ftes,
we
are
in
the
process
of
hiring
new
staff
as
well.
So
this
you
know
the
the
team
of
temporarily
one
will
become
a
team
of
three
hopefully
right
around
the
beginning
of
the
new
year,
which
will
be
very
helpful,
completing
greenhouse
gas
emission
analysis,
so
the
city
does
do
like
every
two
years
or
so
some
pretty
robust
greenhouse
gas
emission
analysis.
Z
This
continues
to
be
very
important.
We
also
want
to
incorporate
some
of
the
findings
of
the
updated
General
plan,
some
of
those
updated
projections
as
we
refine
our
2030
action
plans
for
hitting
City
emission
carbon
neutrality
and
then
Regional
carbon
neutrality
by
2045.
In
line
with
the
state
and
targeting
high
value
projects,
we'll
talk
a
lot
about
high
Broward
projects
later
so
considering
new
policies,
so
Senate
Bill
1383,
which
you
all
spent
a
lot
of
time.
Z
Looking
at
the
update
to
our
Waste
Management
franchise
to
accomplish
that
that
looks
at
short-lived
climate
pollutants,
also
known
as
methane
or
other
climate
pollutants
that
are
generated
from
short-term
Decay
as
opposed
to
carbon
emissions,
or
you
know,
CO2
emissions
which
are
kind
of
based
on
longer
term
time
processes.
So
we'll
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit
desert
community
energy.
We
already
touched
on
Commercial
renewable
energy
standards,
we'll
talk
about
in
our
high
value
projects.
Community
composting
I
think
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
as
well.
Z
That's
an
interesting
one
to
think
about
in
the
context
of
Senate
Bill
1383.
You
know,
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
in
the
next
slide
about
kind
of
how
I
think
about
the
ways
that
we
bring
residents.
Into,
Climate
action,
I
still
think
Community.
Composting
is
very
important
as
a
way
to
bring
residents
to
the
table
and
help
them
understand
what
their
role
is
in
local
environmental
action
and
clarifying
land
conservation
goals.
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
great
work
locally.
Z
You
know
by
non-profits
by
other
organizations,
thinking
about
land
conservation
here,
both
in
Palm
Springs
and
in
the
Coachella
Valley
in
general.
So
that's
something
that
that
we
hope
to
dig
into
a
little
bit
more
next
year
as
well
and
then
finally,
thinking
about
kind
of
standardizing
and
building
more
policies.
Z
You
know,
where
are
the
other
levers
that
we
need
to
be
pushing
to
really
be
thinking
holistically
about
all
of
the
ways
that
we
can
reduce
emissions
waste
pollution?
Things
like
that,
so
integrating
sustainability
with
other
departments
is,
is
the
number
one
thing
listed
in
this
third
column
here,
we'll
talk
about
some
specifics
there
later
on
and
then
more
specifically
green
purchasing
policies.
I'll
also
talk
about
in
sort
of
late
22,
early
23
work.
Z
I
also
love
a
rule
of
Threes,
so
you'll
see
three
columns
an
awful
lot
in
this
presentation,
so
when
I
kind
of
think
about
the
ways
that
I
have
come
to
understand
the
climate
work
here
in
Palm
Springs,
in
particular,
I
think
about
it
kind
of
along
three
vectors,
so
the
first
being
empowering
residents
and
visitors.
So
this
is
the
bread
and
butter
of
sustainability
work.
Z
So
this
is
the
kind
of
things
that,
when
you
think
about
you
know,
when
people
encounter
environmental
challenges,
often
it's
you
think
about
Gardens
Landscaping
recycling.
Z
You
know
what
do
I
do
with
my
Sharps,
like
you
know
various
kind
of
questions
where
this
is
kind
of
where
people
are
encountering
almost
environmental
operations,
the
most
frequently
and
so
really
proud
of
the
work
that
we've
been
able
to
continue
to
build
on
that.
The
team
has
established
here.
You
know
offering
quarterly
E-Waste
and
treading
events
which
continue
to
be
very
popular,
establishing.
Z
The
demonstration
garden
over
at
the
airport,
which
I
had
the
chance
to
see
this
morning
on
my
way
out
of
there,
it's
looking
great
I,
recommend
to
go.
Take
a
look,
I'm
hoping
to
get
some
signage
over
there
soon.
So
we
can
do
a
formal
opening
and
then
updating,
EV
charging
and
making
sure
that's
available
throughout
the
city.
So
the
city
does
have
a
very
robust
Network,
both
of
kind
of
upgraded,
very
shiny,
EV,
Chargers
and
then
kind
of
the
the
older
models
which
we
have
available
for
free
use
as
well
still.
Z
So
we
have
charging
available
at
a
variety
of
different
price
points,
a
variety
of
different
charging
levels
and
in
a
lot
of
different
locations
around
the
city
where
people
would
want
to
use
them.
That's
something
that
we'll
talk
about
what
that
phase
two
looks
like
here
in
a
little
bit,
but
that's
some
great
work.
That's
been
done
over
the
past
couple
years
by
the
council,
the
commission
and
staff.
Z
So
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
residents
see
themselves
kind
of
in
that
First
Column
as
empowered
to
take
climate
action
and
then
who
are
the
other
members
and
other
organizations
and
collectives
that
we're
working
with
to
kind
of
make
this
work
happen
so
collaborating
with
businesses
communities
in
the
region.
One
of
the
examples
of
that
I
think
is
the
extraordinary
leadership
that
a
lot
of
our
members
of
our
business
Community
have
shown
around
the
foodware
ordinance.
Z
So
that
is
something
that
the
council
passed
to
phase
out
single-use
Plastics
and
other
disposable
items.
Long-Lived
disposable
items
like
Eternal
styrofoam,
that's
something
that
we've
seen
a
lot
of
res
or
a
lot
of
restaurants
really
take
up
very
well,
which
is
great.
We've
also
offered
some
incentives
to
help.
Restaurants
and
businesses
adopt
the
food
or
ordinance.
Z
We've
also
seen
some
residents
or
some
businesses
not
adopt
the
foodware
ordinance,
which
is
that
something
that
I'm
on
I'm
on
a
styrofoam
hunt
right
now
and
I'm
very
quickly,
going
to
become
very
unpopular
in
a
lot
of
local
restaurants
but
I'm
new.
So
it's
okay!
So
that's
something
that
I
do
want
to.
You
know
kind
of
think
about
how
we
continue
to
leverage
that
success
and
then
collaborating
with
you
know.
Z
Regional
organizations
like
cvag
I
think
the
CV
link
is
a
really
good
example
of
kind
of
Regional
Transportation
collaboration
helping
to
improve
bike
access
throughout
throughout
Palm
Springs
and
throughout
the
region,
kind
of
thinking
about
that
networked
connectivity
and
how
we're
using
that
to
get
more
people,
thinking
about
non-vehicular
modes
of
transportation
and
then
finally,
thinking
about
system
transformation.
Z
So
you
know
obviously
dce
we've
talked
about
a
little
bit
kind
of
being
at
the
top
of
this
list
here,
also
rolling
out
residential
Organics
collection,
which
I
don't
want
to
understate
the
size
of
that
feat
that
Palm
Springs
disposal
has
undertaken.
It's
something
that
when
I
was
in
New
York,
we
worried
about
for
two
and
a
half
years
and
I
know
that
that
psds
has
been
planning
around
that
same
amount
of
time,
but
I
think
you
know
so
far
managing
to
get
all
those
bins
out
and
get
that
service
started.
Z
I
know
we're
still
kind
of
working
through
the
uptake,
but
it's
it's
going
pretty
well
so
far
in
my
opinion,
and
then
also
thinking
the
council
and
team
for
support
of
their
growth
of
the
office
of
sustainability
and
other
programs
around
sustainability
in
the
city,
which
I
think
has
been
very
helpful
in
setting
the
foundation
for
all
of
those
Edition
work
so
time
to
talk
about
what
that
additional
work
looks
like
so
there's
four
topics
that
I
want
to
dive
into
a
little
bit
here
in
terms
of
where
I
think
you
know,
in
collaboration
with
other
teams,
you
know
the
commission
other
other
and
other
agencies
and
organizations
where
I
think
our
opportunity
areas
are
next
in
terms
of
what's
in
our
climate
action
roadmap
and
in
our
Council
priorities.
Z
So
the
first
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
here
is
EV
charging,
so
I'm
thinking
about
EV
charging
in
two
ways.
One
is:
how
do
we
go
ahead
and
eliminate
our
Fleet
and
city
transportation
as
a
source
of
carbon
emissions?
So
this
is
something
where
I
think
we
can
take
advantage
of
a
lot
of
federal
and
state
funding.
That's
going
to
be
available
here,
and
it's
also
something
that's
largely
within
our
control.
So
you
know
we
do
have
a
very
robust
planning
or
apparatus
around
replacement
Cycles.
Z
Z
You
know:
when
do
you
put
in
the
charging
stations?
How
many
do
you
put
in
how
much
money
does
that
cost
to
upgrade
the
service
from
Southern
California
Edison?
Z
How
long
will
that
take
so
that
planning
process
I
think
is
something
that's
very
high
priority
for
us,
because
we
kind
of
just
want
to
you
know
cross
that
off
of
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
inventory
and
get
that
out
of
the
way
so
excited
to
be
able
to
hopefully
exceed
our
carb
mandated
goals
for
vehicle
replacement,
which
I
believe
is
starting
in
2024
10
of
our
Fleet
that
we
replace
annually
needs
to
be
zero
emission
I
mean
that's
focusing
on
light
duty
vehicles,
so
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
get
the
specialized
airport
de-icing
trucks
electric
on
in
2024,
which
is
good
because
those
don't
exist
but
starting
to
work
toward
replacement
of
those
available.
Z
Z
It's
still
a
relatively
small
percentage,
largely
because
we're
a
little
bit
limited
on
the
infrastructure,
but
looking
at
some
options
to
be
able
to
roll
that
out
and
then
also
when
I'm
thinking
about
EV
charging
with
the
team
is
looking
at
making
sure
we
have
good
coverage
throughout
the
city,
so
we
have
really
good
penetration.
Downtown
we
want
to
continue
to.
You
know,
expand
that
to
any
basically
any
City
on
Lots.
We
want
those
to
have.
Z
You
know
the
the
hottest
newest
latest
EV
Charters
that
people
can
easily
use
and
integrate
in
with
the
systems
that
they're
already
using.
But
that's
you
know
that's
not
necessarily
everywhere
in
the
city.
We
want
to
make
sure
those
continue
to
be
available
at
a
variety
of
price
points,
because
also,
as
more
used
EVS
become
available
as
more
tax
credits
become
available.
Z
Maybe
that's
you
know
the
fast
Chargers
that
are
maybe
a
little
bit
more
expensive
and
then
also
kind
of
the
backbone
service
where
anyone
can
go,
get
some
charge
for
two
to
three
hours
for
free
for
free
to
kind
of
help
them
get
around
town
that
way
so
EV
charging
that
continues
to
to
be
a
high
priority
already,
because
Transportation
emissions
are
the
largest
sector
of
our
emissions
portfolio.
This
is
true
of
all
California
cities,
but
it
is
the
you
know
our
largest
segment.
Z
Z
Sorry,
City
attorney
Bellinger
I
will
not
do
that,
but
you
know
like
we
can't
restrict
certain
kinds
of
vehicles
in
certain
places
things
like
that
which
I
could
talk
about
for
hours
if
anyone
is
really
bored,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
on
EV
charging
and
what
we're
looking
forward
to
doing
next,
really
leveraging
I
think
public-private,
Partnerships
and
collaborations
with
the
business
communities
here
as
well.
Z
Z
What
are
kind
of
the
reasons
why
they
choose
to
do
or
not
do
certain
things
we're
hoping
to
use
some
of
that
data
to
help
us
Identify
some
targeted
Investments
and
help
build
more
community
support
for
additional
things
like
more
bike
Lanes.
Maybe
if
we're
thinking
about
Bike
Share,
you
know
I
think
we
need
a
little
bit
more
data
before
we
would
want
to
do
something
like
that
to
understand
where
that
might
go,
what
kinds
of
Bike
Share
models
would
we
look
at?
Z
Z
Z
Our
emissions
are
not
as
large
of
a
segment
of
our
total
emissions,
as
other
cities
might
be,
who
might
have
more
advanced
industrial
processes
that
they're
running
as
their
city
government,
but
we
still
are
responsible
for
a
fairly
significant
amount
of
environmental
impact
and
Emissions
impact,
and
we
want
to
continue
to
lead
by
example.
So,
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
we're
really
hoping
to
do
to
support
the
work
of
our
our
sister
departments.
Z
So
one
is
really
thinking
about
the
turf
conversion
master
plan,
which
I
know
is
mentioned
both
in
our
climate
action
roadmap
and
in
the
council's
priorities,
making
sure
that
we
have
a
kind
of
a
plan
to
phase
out
the
rest
of
our.
You
know
major
water
hogging
non-functional
Turf,
so
that's
something
where
we'll
be
working
to
support.
Z
Parks
Public
Works
in
developing
those
plans
as
they're
working
on
those
and
then
also
finally,
implementing
our
environmentally
preferable
purchasing
policy,
which
I
was
very
glad
to
know
in
Palm
Springs,
which
are
are
basically
final
draft
is
less
than
20
Pages,
as
opposed
to
the
750
page,
one
that
we
had
in
New
York,
which
was
not
useful
because
it
was
so
long.
So
this
is
much
better,
so
looking
forward
to
bringing
that
back,
probably
for
the
next
council
at
the
beginning
of
their
tenure.
Z
To
finalize
that
I
know,
this
council's
had
a
lot
of
great
impact
and
and
support
of
that,
and
then
the
final
kind
of
project
dive
I
want
to
do
here
a
little
bit.
You
know
I'm
going
to
do
my
best,
not
to
misspeak
in
front
of
our
technical
expert,
commissioner
David
Friedman,
who
is
here
in
the
audience
to
support
with
any
questions
that
I
may
not
be
able
to
answer.
But
thinking
about
some
new
ordinances
here,
and
so
this
is
something
that
I
know.
Z
The
council
has
provided
some
direction
on
we're
able
to
kind
of
take
a
few
steps
in
advance
of
the
bleeding
edge
here
with
two
primary
goals.
So
one
is
reducing
the
environmental
and
Emissions
impact
of
commercial
buildings,
so
whether
that
is
new
building
or
new
commercial
or
existing
making
sure
that
they're,
using
as
clean
of
electricity
as
possible,
so
hopefully
100
renewable
and
then
continuing
to
reduce
the
amount
of
that
electricity
that
they
demand
by
improving
their
Energy
Efficiency
on
site.
Z
So
some
ordinances
have
been
drafted
around
that
and
then
also
making
sure
that
our
residential
buildings
come
that
are
existing
because
we
have
so
many
in
Palm
Springs
that
are
of
some
wonderful
architectural
eras
that
were
not
great
about
insulating
making.
Sure
that
we're
kind
of
bringing
everybody
up
to
a
consistent
Baseline
that
is
consistent
with
the
current
energy
codes.
Z
So
there's
we're
kind
of
in
a
stakeholder
Outreach
phase
here
I
think
we
have
really
good
really
good
Frameworks
for
our
resolution
or
for
the
ordinances.
I
think
you
know,
things
are
pretty
clearly
drafted,
but
I
think
we're
in
the
implementation
and
understanding
phase.
So
that's
something
that
we're
hoping
to
do
in
the
beginning
of
next
year
and
and
bring
back
early
to
the
next
Council
as
well,
just
making
sure
that
those
feel
feasible.
We
understand
kind
of
specifics
around
cost
benefit,
phase
and
timelines.
Things
like
that.
Z
We're
also
going
to
be
really
big
beneficiaries,
particularly
here
from
federal
and
state
funding.
So
this
is
kind
of
a
situation
where
I
think
our
will
kind
of
be
optimizing
timing
a
little
bit,
so
there
will
be
significant
tax
credits,
incentives,
things
rebates
available
for
things
like
heat
pumps,
which
are
like
the
electric
Next
Generation
version
of
your
HVAC
system
of
Home
EV
charging
equipment
of
induction
cook
stoves.
Z
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
both
have
the
tools
that
are
encouraging
people
to
take
advantage
of
these
opportunities,
because
it
is
going
to
be
relatively
limited
time.
Probably
these
things
will
be
available,
so
we
want
people
to
be
taking
advantage
of
these
credits.
We
want
people
to
have
also
the
technical
assistance
resources
in
order
to
do
that.
Z
So
thinking
about
both
how
we
can
fill
that
in
as
a
city
I
know,
cvac
and
other
colleagues
have
been
working
a
lot
on
establishing
the
Inland
renewable
energy
Network,
which
is
sort
of
a
kind
of
like
a
a
network
that
can
take
advantage
of
ratepayer
funding
from
the
California
Public
Utilities
Commission,
and
reinvest
that
in
technical
assistance
and
other
programs
locally,
which
will
also
be
very
helpful.
So
we
really
want
to
kind
of
maximize
this
opportunity
by
bringing
a
lot
of
things
together
at
once.
Z
So
that
is
the
end
of
my
upcoming
projects.
Sort
of
discussion
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
here
about
enforcement,
because,
while
this
is
a
very
specific
close
rating
here,
it's
kind
of
there
are
principles
here
that
apply
to
many
of
the
other
things
that
we
want
to
do
as
a
city.
So
I'm
thinking
about
leaf
blowers,
so
I
have
to
admit:
I
have
never
had
never
touched
a
leaf.
Blower
before
I
came
to
Palm
Springs,
because
I
lived
in
a
city
for
my
entire
adult
life.
Z
So
this
has
been
really
interesting
for
me
to
learn
about
so
I.
You
know
I
know
this
Council
has
has
heard
a
few
times
a
few
discussions
on
kind
of
where
I
think
the
enforcement,
or
not
the
enforcement
issues,
but
the
the
kind
of
adoption
of
the
ordinance
kind
of
is
has
plateaued,
so
I
think
you
know,
based
on
what
we've
seen,
both
in
seasonal
variation
and
just
kind
of
neighborhood
time
of
day
things
like
that,
we
see
between
50
and
75
compliance
with
this
ordinance.
Z
We
estimate
it
is
impossible
to
catch
every
leaf
blower.
It
is
possible,
but
not
always
easy
to
audibly
discern
the
difference
between
different
types
of
leaf
blowers,
though
I
know,
our
compliance
officers
are
very
good
at
making
that
determination
and
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
their
ability
to
do
that.
So
it
kind
of
just
depends.
You
know
summer,
you
see
a
little
bit
less,
because
the
batteries
tend
to
drain
faster
in
the
heat
which
I
know
is
an
issue.
Z
That's
been
discussed
before
and
you
know
different
neighborhoods
kind
of
depending
on
Whose
Landscaping.
Where,
and
you
know
there,
there
can
be
a
bit
of
a
Snowball
Effect.
If
you
know
we
have
enough
people
using
a
gas
leaf
blower
and
they
feel
like
it's
okay,
then
you
kind
of
see
more
people
start
to
use
it,
but
we
do
see
I
would
say
pretty
significant
compliance
with
this,
but
it's
not
perfect.
We're
also
seeing
a
change
in
kind
of
how
landscapers
are
using
their
leaf
blowers.
Z
So
people
will
have
you
know
multiple
multiple
leaf
blowers
on
them.
They'll
have
an
electric
one
and
a
gas
one.
They
use
the
electric
one
out
front
and
the
gas
one
in
the
back.
Like
you
know,
there's
kind
of
there's
a
reluctance
to
kind
of
give
up
on
the
on
the
tried
and
true
equipment
that
that
can
be
perceived
as
more
efficient,
especially
for
larger
scale,
more
industrial
operations
where
you
might
be
going
from
property
to
property,
and
you
can't
necessarily
maintain
obtain
the
battery
charge.
Z
So
this
you
know
these
these
problems
that
have
existed
continue
to
exist.
However,
we
do
have
two
pieces
of
changing
context
here.
So
one
is
a
decision
from
Code
Compliance
that
we've
talked
about
where
they're
not
going
to
be
issuing
citations
to
the
homeowner
instead
of
the
landscaper.
So
it
can
be
difficult
to
find
the
landscapers
in
some
instances
based
on
where
you
know
whose
truck
they're
using.
Maybe
it's
not
labeled.
Z
Z
The
second
piece
here
being
a
change
in
California
state
law,
so
starting
in
2024,
you
will
no
longer
be
able
to
purchase
a
gas
powered
leaf,
blower
or
lawn
lawnmower
in
the
state
of
California.
This
will
not
make
it
impossible
for
people
to
acquire
these
pieces
of
equipment,
but
it
will
make
it
more
difficult,
especially
for
people
who
might
be
you
know,
buying
one
piece
you
know
to
use
at
home
or
something
like
that.
Z
Z
You
know,
we've
been
considering
doing
another
round
of
marketing
Outreach
kind
of
communications
around
the
rebate
program
that
exists,
which
offers
I
believe
up
to
750
dollars
to
replace
your
leaf
blower.
You
know
there.
We
also
have
not
done
any
trading
programs
in
a
while,
but
I
know
the
trading
programs
were
very
popular
when
the
ordinance
was
first
launched.
Also
thinking
about
different
pressure
points
at
which
we
could
apply
education,
so
maybe
it's
at
licensure
for
the
businesses.
Z
Maybe
it's
kind
of
having
more
opportunities
to
you
know:
co-create
I,
guess
almost
like
a
future
pathway
with
with
landscapers
with
the
acknowledgment
that
the
new
California
state
law
will
continue
to
apply
downward
pressure,
I
think
on
the
number
of
leaf
blowers
that
we
see,
but
we
are
still
kind
of
in
that
you
know
sort
of
mid-range
compliance
phase
and
that's
it
tell
us
a
million
different
topics
very
quickly
and
I
am
very
happy
to
spend
as
much
time
as
anyone
would
like
on
any
one
of
those
topics
or
on
any
topics
that
may
not
have
appeared.
A
So
this
is
a
report
to
us
that
will
ultimately
receive
and
file
and
provide
some
direction
going
forward.
So
I
think
comments
and
questions
can
be
combined
pretty
easily
in
this
for
an
agenda
item
such
as
this
I'm,
not
sure
who
would
like
to
begin
first,
but.
F
Since
no
one
else
is
first,
thank
you
for
the
great
report,
a
lot
of
information,
a
lot
of
great
work,
so
thank
you.
I,
like
the
colors,
okay
I,
also
appreciate
the
speed
of
your
presentation,
because
you
got
through
a
lot
of
information
in
a
reasonable
amount
of
time.
So
just
a
couple
comments
one
is,
and
when
we
sort
of
the
goals
in
here
of
like
80
or
90
percent
carbon
neutral
by
2050.
I
mean
we
talked
about
2030,
not
just
for
City
facilities.
Right
got
it
right.
F
Of
small
cities
are
now
doing.
We
used
examples
of
the
Cities
I,
remember
councilman,
for
holstedge
as
that
and
we're
supposed
to
come
back,
I
think
in
a
resolution
or
something
which
might
have
been
helpful.
So
maybe
we
just
need
to
bring
that
back
or
not,
but
it
was
for
the
city,
and
so
even
when
we're
doing
the
budget,
we
talk,
given
that
we
had
to
put
money
away
and
we
need
a
really
ambitious
plan
if
we
have
any
hope
of
making
it
with
dce.
F
Waiting
past
the
state
to
get
where
we
need
to
get
on
leaf
blowers,
we're
at
least
five
years
from
when
that
ordinance
was
passed,
because
you
weren't
on
the
council
I'm
the
only
one
who's
on
the
council
when
that
was
passed
and
we're
still
getting
hundreds
of
complaints.
I
appreciate
at
least
half,
if
not
more,
in
compliance.
F
I
do
here
from
some
people
who
complain
regularly
so
I
know
you
get
more
than
one
from
some
folks,
and
even
you
know
talking
to
my
landscaper,
who
did
it
right
away,
feels
it's
so
unfair
for
the
people
who
follow
the
law
that
right,
they
feel
the
city's
not
following
the
law
for
the
people
who
are
breaking
it
and
so
I
appreciate
Code
Compliance
is
going
to
start
focusing
on
the
homeowners,
which
I
do
think
is
a
much
better
way
to
do.
F
It
and
I
also
think
the
idea
of
really
upping
the
education
which
we
did
early
on
with
the
rebates,
and
even
if
we
need
to
put
some
more
money
in
the
rebates
to
help
people
buy
them,
makes
a
lot
of
sense
right
and
so.
Okay,
you
know
I
thought
those
were
good
good
ways
to
do
it
I
think
you
know
if
we
need,
if
the
cost
is
a
factor
for
folks
I
think
we
can
put
more
money
into
that
rebate,
given
no
one's
using
it
currently
and
I.
F
Think
we
just
need
to
do
more
of
the
fares
that
we
did
right
where
we
had
a
couple
hundred
people
come
and
really
up
that
education
level.
Because
it's
you
know
it's
not
just
climate
right,
although
they're.
Incredibly,
you
know
polluting,
but
it's
the
noise.
A
lot
of
the
hotels
were
so
happy.
Their
guests
are
happy
right,
you
know,
and
and
the
health
impacts
of
breathing
all
the
gas
on
the
workers
that
are
also
concerned,
so
so
getting
that
education
out
and
the
rebate
going
I
think
would
really
be
be
helpful.
F
You
know
what
time
we
have
an
issue
with
that
house
right,
so
you
know
we're
very
effective
with
you
know:
vacation
rentals
I
think
we
may
not
get
it
the
first
time,
but
if
you're
getting
repeated
at
the
same
time
and
I
don't
want
to
find
someone
the
first
time,
but
it
should
be
a
warning.
Here's
the
rebate,
you
know
Etc
and
I-
think
the
homeowners
are
the
appropriate
because
often
they'll
go
get
it
electric
powered
leaf
flower.
Sure.
F
But
really
appreciate
all
the
work
and
I
and
I
look
forward
when
I'm
off
the
council
to
see
sort
of
the
next
phase
of
moving
us
forward.
F
The
last
thing
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
was
before
you
were
here:
I
believe
because
it's
probably
in
the
spring,
we
had
a
meeting
with
our
Communications
and
desert
community
energy
and
tourism
and
the
convention
center
and
our
Hospitality
Association
and
visit
greater
Palm
Springs
about
doing
a
lot
to
recognize
all
the
businesses
that
are
100
carbon,
free
and
promoting
them
promoting
at
our
Convention
Center
is
100
carbon
free,
which
our
Convention
Center
didn't
know
at
the
time
to
conventions,
because
they
can
then
Market
it
yeah.
Z
F
One,
you
know
the
national
studies
that
we
have
at
physical,
greater
Palm
Springs
show
that
for
tourists
40
and
under
the
sustainability
of
a
location
is
always
in
the
top
three
reasons
they
choose
somewhere.
So
we
should
be
promoting
the
businesses
who
are
doing
the
right
thing.
F
We
should
be
promoting
this
as
a
place
that
is
ahead
on
these
issues,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
and
I'm
happy
to
be
part
of
a
follow-up
meeting
that
we
get
that
back
it
just
you
know,
fell
off
as
things
do
and
there
are
100
other
things
going
on,
but
get
that
going
back
going
again.
So
I
can
see
if
I
have
notes
in.
But
this
reminded
me
that
we
needed
to
do
that.
H
Thank
you
thank
you
for
bringing
this
and
for
all
of
the
work.
So
transportation
is
the
biggest
issue
here
and
I
would
really
you
know
in
talking
with
other
residents
and
Roy
Clark
who's,
one
of
our
former
sustainability,
Commissioners
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
transportation
strategic
plan.
You
know
you've
already
mentioned
a
couple
of
different
things
with
the
fleet,
but
you
know
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
make
Palm
Springs
a
walkable
destination
for
our
tourists.
Specifically
I
mean
that's
the
easiest
thing.
H
Obviously
we
want
it
to
be
more
walkable
for
our
residents
as
well,
but
things
like
having
an
airport
shuttle
potentially
having
the
buzz,
come
back
to
bring
people
to
popular
destinations.
H
There's
a
lot
of
opportunities
here
and
to
be
able
to
create
a
task
force,
that's
limited
and
limit
in
scope
to
Transportation
issues
and
how
it
impacts
the
climate
action
plan.
It
includes
staff
and
residents
to
really
dig
in
on
this
I
think
would
be
helpful
because
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
can
do
when
we
need
to
actually
know
what
is
the
top
priorities
and
how
quickly
can
we
Implement
them?
Like
we
have
our
our
safe
routes
to
school
already,
we
have
our
pedestrian
safety
plan.
H
We
have
all
of
these
things,
but
we
don't
have
a
timeline
of
when
those
things
are
going
to
be
implemented
so
really
being
able
to
bring
in
all
of
these
different
Transportation
discussions
and
identify
the
top
goals
and
timelines
for
implementation.
I
think
would
be
really
helpful.
For
instance,
the
fleet
electrification
we've
talked
about
for
a
while
now,
but
it's
it's
really
like
you
said
in
the
future,
because
we
in
2019
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
voted
on
was
buying
I,
don't
know
how
many
new
cars
all
gas
so
we're.
H
We
don't
even
need
any
new
cards
for
the
foreseeable
future.
So
what
are
other
things
that
we
we
can
do
and
and
certainly
putting
in
electric
charging
stations
at
multi-family
units
and
other
places
that
don't
have
them?
You
know
off
getting
our
condo
associations
to
put
them
in
place,
and
you
know,
like
you,
said,
making
it
as
easy
as
possible.
Apologies
if
I'm
repeating.
H
I
had
to
run
out
a
couple
times,
yeah
and
I.
Think
that
you
know
we
have
a
really
great
opportunity
right
now,
especially
with
the
CVB
hiring
a
sustainability
person.
You
know
really
dedicated
to
this
stuff
to
to
make
this
something
that
we're
really
working
on
regionally
and
doing
that
advertising,
making
sure
that
people
understand
that
we
are
a
green
destination
and
and
what
we
have
to
offer.
H
Probably
I,
don't
know,
probably
fairly
dramatically
I.
Think
of
how
many
people
come
in
because
of
cars
compared
to
how
our
residents,
who
really
don't
drive
that
much
right.
Z
What's
also
interesting
in
those
cases
to
think
about
like
when
we
I
think
one
of
the
things
we're
hoping
to
do
when
we
do
our
Mobility
surveying
is
thinking
about
you
know,
I
think
people
have
a
hard
time
I
thinking
about
how
they
might
completely
abandon
a
car
like
if
I,
even
think
about
sort
of
the
ways
in
which
I
sort
of
moved
away
from
cars
being
in
my
life,
it's
that
you
know
I
could
access
car
share
pretty
easily
like
I?
Could
access
Zipcar
or
car2go
or
any
of
those
you
know?
Z
So
if
I
had
to
go
out
of
town
I,
could
you
know
find
a
thing
or,
if
I
needed
to
go
to
Target
or
whatever
and
get
a
bulky
thing
I
could
get
that
or
having
access
to
something
like
a
bike
share,
or
even
some,
like
you
know,
tnc's
taxis,
various
things
like
that.
You
know.
How
are
we
thinking
about
Fleet
electrification,
there
I
think
kind
of
thinking
about
what
people's
patterns
are,
so
we
can
help
chip
away
at
it,
because
sometimes
the
decision
to
go
fully
car
free
can
be
very
overwhelming.
H
Definitely
I
think
there's
a
lot
here
that
we
can
do
and
and
really
focusing
some
core
folks
on
Transportation
I
think
could
get
us
to
where
we
need
to
be,
but
thank
you
very
much.
I
really
I
really
appreciate
that
and
I
just
look
forward
to
you
know
all
of
our
our
options
and
implementing
them.
Thank
you.
W
All
right
thanks!
It's
a
lot
that
we're
doing
I,
think
it's
perfect
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
to
be
take
the
lead
on
on
much
of
this
I
think
it
shows
our
wherewithal
to
want
to
be
concerned
about
the
environment
and
the
health
of
not
only
us
but
the
generations
to
come
on
and
just
to
pick
up
on
the
mayor,
Pro
tems
comments
under
on
page
15
under
bullet
point:
two
implementation:
airport
shuttles
encourage
a
low
emitting
mass
transit
options
for
events
and
revisit
the
trolley
concept.
W
The
buzz
trolley,
I
think
the
buzz
trolley,
because
it
was
fixed
route,
did
not
prove
itself
to
be
very
cost
effective.
But
there
are
brand
new
firms
out
there
that
are
doing
something
completely
different,
such
as
circuit
or
freebie,
or
any
of
those
that
actually
will
shuttle
people
around
from
point
A
to
point
B
and
I
really
think.
That's
probably
something
to
really
investigate
and
look
at
for
our
city.
I.
Think
the
city
of
Palm
Desert
is
going
into
contract
with
circuit
I'm
happy
to
make
any
context
for
you
to
make
that
happen.
W
U
You
thank
you
so
much
for
your
excellent
report
and
presentation
really
appreciated
and
to
the
sustainability,
commission
and
all
the
people.
Who've
worked
on.
This
really
appreciate
and
all
the
work
that
we've
done
and
our
leadership
on
this
issue,
and
there
are
many
things
we
did
that
aren't
even
included
in
here,
like
I.
Just
visited
our
pollinator
Garden
that
we
did
with
the
turf
conversion
at
the
airport
and
there
were
bees
and
all
kinds
of
pollinators
there.
U
It
was
really
cool
to
see
it
in
action,
so
I'm
inspired
by
our
work,
I
agree:
I
actually
just
sent
the
city
manager
the
information
about
circuit
too,
because
I
think
we
do
continue
to
have
a
first
mile,
Last
Mile
problem
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
Actually
at
Pride
we
had
a
golf
cart
and
we
were
like
begged
by
some
lady
to.
U
Her
parking
lot
because
she
couldn't
make
it
because
we
do
have
such
a
big
long,
downtown,
Canyon,
Indian
Canyon.
It's
really
difficult
for
people
to
get
around
and
I've
always
said.
It's
an
accessibility
and
disability
issue
as
well.
U
U
Those
are
the
problems
that
we're
going
to
see
more
and
more
and
though
we
updated
our
building
code
to
require
air
conditioning
to
buy
landlords
for
a
unit
to
be
habitable,
I'm,
not
sure
if
we've
done
any
enforcement
on
that
or
education.
So
sorry,
it's
late.
We've
been
going
at
this
for
a
long
time,
but
I
just
say
that
to
say
like
thinking
through
like
what
else
can
we
do
and
how
do
we
move
into
the
next
phase
of
planning
for
climate
here?
U
That
is
less
habitable
and
has
more
heat
effects,
and
your
focus
on
data
I
think
will
be
very,
very
helpful
because
yeah
we
could
enforce
forever
and
not
actually
take
a
bite
out
of
the
apple
or
whatever.
The
phrase
would
be
right
so
making
sure
that
we're
we're
spending
our
time
doing
the
most
impactful
work.
Based
on
that
data
and
I
agree
with
mayor
Pro,
tem,
Garner
I.
U
Think
a
lot
of
that
will
be
around
Transportation,
so
I'm
excited
to
see
that
work
and
yeah
I
would
love
to
see
how
we
can
really
integrate
the
sustainability
work
throughout
all
of
the
Departments
so
that
we
harness
the
power
of
all
city
employees,
our
staff
members,
to
to
work
on
these
problems
and
solutions.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
leadership.
A
Well,
I
want
to
Echo
the
comments
of
my
colleagues
and
thank
you
thank
the
sustainability
commission,
but,
most
importantly,
I
want
to
thank
the
people
of
Palm
Springs,
who
have
absolutely
demonstrated
our
commitment
to
doing
everything
that
we
can
to
make
an
impact.
A
There
is
no
larger
impact
that
we
have
made
than
the
desert
community
energy
program
and
we
have
Mr
Friedman
here,
who
is
the
director
of
that
program,
but
over
70
percent
of
our
residents
and
businesses
are
enrolled
in
the
100
percent
carbon
free
product
they're,
paying
eight
to
ten
percent
more
for
electricity.
A
In
order
to
be
able
to
do
that,
there
is
no
bigger
testimony
of
the
willingness
of
the
overwhelming
majority
of
our
residents
to
do
what
is
necessary
than
the
fact
that
they
have
put
their
pocketbook
out
there
and
we
need
to
be
continuing
to
reward
and
thank
our
residents.
A
I.
Think
beyond
that.
When
we
look
at
some
of
the
numbers
on
EV
charging
stations,
I'm
going
to
get
this
wrong,
but
we're
very
close
to
the
city
of
Riverside
in
terms
of
number
of
charging
stations
and
they're
about
six
seven
times
larger
than
we
are
in
population.
So
one
of
the
reasons
that
that's
happening
is
not
only
are
we
putting
in
charging
stations?
A
Our
residents
are
buying
electric
cars,
so,
in
terms
of
data,
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
see
us
start
collecting
is
not
only
how
many
charging
stations
do
we
have,
but
to
the
fullest
extent.
We
can
how
many
electric
vehicles
do
we
have
in
our
city
and
get
that
information
out
there
and
known
and
challenge
our
good
friends
in
some
of
the
other
cities
to
match
us.
So.
Z
That
that
data
is
actually
somewhat
available,
so
I
was
able
to
pull
a
couple
of
stats
like
right
before
the
meeting
which
I
thought
were
very
interesting
and
which
I
think
will
kind
of
be
in
line
with
the
fact
you
shared
about
Riverside
so
in
the
year
20,
so
the
California
DMV
Aggregates
this
data.
In
the
year
2021
we
had
882
registered
battery
electric
vehicles
and
481
registered
plug-in
hybrids,
which
is
actually
only
five
less
in
each
category
than
the
city
of
Sacramento,
which
is
11
times
larger.
So
really
it's
you
know
we
still.
Z
We
still
have
a
ways
to
go
in
terms
of
hitting
you.
You
know.
30
percent,
as
an
EB
registration,
Target
I,
think,
is
a
near-term
target.
That's
a
good
one
to
set,
but
we
are
pretty
neck
and
neck
with
Palm
Desert.
Fortunately,
unfortunately,
but
so
we
we
don't
necessarily
have
the
valley
bagging
rights
there,
but
it
is
pretty
impressive,
especially
compared
to
some
of
these
larger
cities,
but
yeah
I
agree
that
kind
of
aggregating
and
ensuring
that
would
be
great.
It.
A
Is
impressive
and
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
have
a
battle
with
Palm.
C
T
A
Who
can
buy
and
build
the
most
stations
both
cities
will
win
at
that.
I
would
also
like
to
see
us
tracking
how
many
homes
we
have
with
rooftop
solar.
A
It
is
absolutely
an
essential
thing
for
us
to
do
numbers
that
I've
heard
is
Honolulu
has
per
capita
more
rooftop
solar
than
any
other
City,
let's
catch
up,
and
what
incentives
and
programs
do
we
need
to
make
sure
that
rooftop,
solar
is
not
simply
a
luxury
item
for
those
of
means,
but
something
that
is
Affordable
and
available
to
everyone.
We
know
it
makes
a
difference.
A
We
should
be
making
it
much
easier
through
our
zoning
and
approval
processes
for
anyone
who
wants
to
be
developing
solar
farms
in
Palm
Springs
we've
got
some
land
that
and
when
it
comes
to
wind,
those
windmills
are
a
beautiful
sight
and
what
whatever
it
takes
to
be
able
to
help
the
conversion
process
of
some
of
our
older
windmills
to
the
newer
and
much
more
efficient
windmills
is
something
we
should
work
with
our
entrepreneurs
to
make
sure
we
do
I'd
also
like
us
to
be
tracking
how
much
Power
is
being
produced
in
Palm
Springs
that
is
being
sold
and
distributed
as
elsewhere,
which
is
find
that
it's
getting
into
the
to
the
net.
A
Recently
we
had
a
battery
storage
project
that
began
up
at
the
north
end
of
town
The,
Firm,
that's
building.
That
was
actually
a
firm
that
I
heard
about
in
a
report
that
was
presented
at
Calpers
Board
of
administration
meeting
last
month.
It
is
the
firm
that
has
been
identified
nationally
by
Calpers
as
being
the
most
advanced
moving
forward
in
trying
to
address
climate
change,
climate
change
targets.
A
We
need
more
of
next
year
and
more
battery
storage
and
we
need
to
make
it
abundantly
easy
for
individuals
who
want
to
to
take
and
build
right
now.
Today,
38
of
the
electricity
produced
in
this
country
comes
from
natural
gas
and
still
22
percent
comes
from
coal.
We
are
producing
more
electricity
in
this
country
from
cold
and
we
are
producing
from
Renewables.
That
is
only
going
to
change.
When
we
increase
the
capacity
of
renewable
energy
to
be
built,
we
cannot
save
our
way
to
climate
change.
A
A
So,
thank
you
for
everything
you're
doing
we'll
keep
up.
Oh
Last,
Thing,
Before,
I,
Forget
mobility
issues.
Everybody
knows
Traffic
Safety
is
a
huge
issue.
For
me,
the
United
States
is
unique
among
Western
countries,
in
that
our
vehicle
accidents
have
not
declined.
In
the
last
decade,
most
European
countries,
the
number
of
accidents,
have
declined
and
one
of
the
most
critical
reasons
why
it
is
being
identified
that
their
rates
are
declining,
as
they
are
building
separate
roadways
for
bicycles,
so
that
people
feel
safe
and
comfortable
to
get
on
the
bikes
and
to
go.
A
If
we
want
to
be
serious
about
Mobility,
we
have
got
to
dedicate
roadways
that
are
exclusively
used
for
bicycles
and
for
pedestrians
and
that
cars
no
longer
can
go
on,
and
that
is
a
significant
change
for
us,
but
it's
something
if
we
want
to
see
people
on
bikes,
we've
got
to
make
it
safe
for
them,
and
it's
not
today.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
our
next
item
is
I
I'm.
Sorry,
it
is
that
time.
Do
we
have
any
non-agenda
public
comment.
D
Yes,
mayor,
we
have
one
all
right:
I
have
Michael
Pitkin.
M
Michael
Joseph
Pitkin
mobbing
is
where
two
or
more
people
conspire
together
to
bully
another
person,
gaslighting
harassment,
stalking,
CSS,
computer
syncing
and
threats
of
blackmail.
No
one
would
appreciate
acts
that
are
accepted
and
enacted
by
many
that
are
degrading,
targeted,
calculated
and
purposefully.
Malicious
should
not
be
tolerated.
Multiple
people,
veterans,
elderly
ex-prisoners,
black
individuals
and
people
of
color
have
come
up
and
said
to
my
face.
M
I
do
not
deserve
HIV
care
because
they
know
people
who
are
medically
worse
off
and
in
more
medical
need
than
I
am
I
have
also
been
told
by
these
same
individuals.
They
harass
me
because
they
know
it.
Pisses
me
off
the
following:
are
my
pet
peeves
I
will
defend
myself
when
women
accuse
men
of
abuse,
just
because
it's
fashionable
the
reality
is
many.
Women
are
bullies
and
abused
men
as
well.
I
will
defend
myself
when
adults
use
children
for
entrapment.
Over
the
years.
M
Sometimes
weekly
I
have
had
children
wandering
around
in
nearby
me
alone,
while
adults
are
in
their
cars.
Half
a
block
away
with
phones
and
recording
devices.
I
will
defend
myself
against
those
using
elderly
requiring
them
to
by
me
to
show
comparison
with
their
wheelchairs,
Walkers
respiratory
devices,
canes
and
other
assist
devices
just
to
prove
they
are
more
worthy
of
assistance
than
I
am
I
will
defend
myself
when
individuals
come
up
to
me,
purposely
to
act
and
use
profanity
and
disgusting
language
just
to
force
the
reaction.
M
This
is
called
gang
stalking
gang
stalking
is
3,
threatening
and
abusive.
No
one
would
appreciate
disgusting
language
being
intentionally
used
against
them.
I'm
only
human
and
I
am
under
duress
and
stress.
Anyone
will
be
defensive
in
response
when
purposefully
and
systematically
threatened
by
people
in
positions
of
authority.
All
of
these
uncaring
acts
I
deal
with
on
a
daily
basis.
For
years.
Reverse
discrimination
is
un-American.
AA
Good
evening
city
council,
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
tem
staff
I'm
before
you
tonight
to
ask
for
help
I'm
the
owner
of
Reefer
Madness
in
Palm
Springs.
My
business
has
been
issued
an
administrative
fine
concerning
security
measures
of
our
storage
area.
I
just
want
to
let
you
know:
I
I,
take
security
seriously,
I,
take
all
the
security
measures
seriously.
We've
always
followed
all
the
rules,
the
right
way,
all
the
time
and
I
believe
this
fine
has
been
issued
in
error.
AA
I
prepared
an
extensive
report
on
this
I
dropped
off
seven
copies
at
the
city
clerk's
office
today
for
city
council,
as
well
as
city
manager.
I.
Ask
that
maybe
you
can
review
this
ahead
of
the
administrative
appeals
board
meeting,
which
is
scheduled
for
Wednesday
and
I'm
asking
for
your
help.
My
report
shows
that
I'm,
not
in
violation,
why
I'm
not
on
violation
and
why
I've
never
been
in
violation
and
I'm,
requesting
that
the
council
study
this
and
take
action
or
pull
this
up
if
possible.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AB
Thank
you,
hello,
Council,
nice,
seeing
you
haven't
been
here
in
a
couple
years,
if
I'm
out
tonight,
wearing
my
dad's
lucky
Blazer,
it's
important
for
those
who
are
you
of
you
who
are
unfamiliar
with
me.
I
was
in
the
conference
room
20
years
ago
with
the
former
police
chief
and
Council
as
we
started
to
make
what
was
the
first
cannabis
laws
in
the
state
of
California?
Very
proud
of
that,
and
that's
the
reason
I'm
here.
My
concerns
are
real.
That
Palm
Springs
maintains
these
high
standards.
AB
AB
AB
That
is
why
I'm
here
tonight
to
ask
you
to
put
a
pause
on
the
appeals
hearing
due
this
Wednesday
and
allow
time
for
his
report
to
be
submitted
to
be
reviewed
to
determine
if,
in
fact,
the
citation
was
issued
in
error,
although
it
is
a
bit
unprecedented,
it
is
not
impractical
to
request
this
pause
to
review
the
facts
and
evidence
he
has
presented,
because
the
ramifications
for
him
are
catastrophic.
It
isn't
about
the
money
for
him,
but
rather
the
negative
mark
on
his
record
with
the
Department
of
cannabis.
AB
Control,
which
is
permanent,
I
feel
he
deserves
the
time
he's
requesting
for
his
report
to
be
reviewed,
a
determination
to
be
made
which
allow
for
a
withdrawal
of
the
citation
I
understand
how
busy
you
people
are
with
vacation,
rentals
and
all
the
things
you're
doing,
but
for
Stephen.
This
is
his
entire
life
savings
that
he
has
come
to
Palm
Springs
to
build
his
business
and
I.
Ask
for
you
to
help
him.
You
are
his
last
hope
and
for
that
I.
AB
A
And
we
will
move
on
to
our
last
item,
which
is
agenda,
item
3C
and
before
we
begin
on
that,
I've
had
a
request
that
we
not
take
final
action
on
this,
but
just
simply
have
an
opportunity
for
each
one
of
us
to
weigh
in
with
our
comments
and
then
I've
also
had
a
request
that
we
we
do
proceed
so
I
want
to
check
in
with
my
colleagues
as
to
whether
or
not
we
want
to
engage
a
full
discussion
with
action.
This
evening,
council
member
course.
F
Well,
I
think
we
should
engage
the
discussion
and
then
based
on
that
discussion.
If
someone
wants
us
not
to
proceed
for
some
reason,
we
can
discuss
it,
but
we
may
you
know
we
don't
know
what
people's
views
are.
People
may
not
think
we
should
do
anything
ever
so.
You
know,
given
you,
don't
have
to
adopt
an
ordinance
at
all
on
this
issue
under
the
state
rules,
so
I
think
we
should
have
the
discussion
and
then
decide
if
that
makes
sense
what
we
want
to
do
or
not
do
today,
because.
A
Precede
it
is
everyone
comfortable
with
that
all
right,
then,
staff
report,
please.
V
The
basic
tenets
of
the
ordinance
is
that
it
allows
for
both
stationary
sidewalk
vendors
and
roaming
sidewalk
vendors
on
public
sidewalks.
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
point
out
is
that
this
does
not
cover
vending
on
private
property
that
is
covered
under
the
city's
zoning
ordinance.
There
are
already
procedures
in
place
which
deal
with
that,
and
so
the
discussion
this
evening
is
solely
focused
on
vending
that
occurs
and
is
allowed
to
occur
under
state
law
on
public
sidewalks.
V
Let
me
first
go
through
locational
requirements.
I'll
go
through
the
various
aspects
of
what
we're
proposing
under
this
ordinance,
starting
first,
where
sidewalk
vendors
May
locate,
so
stationary
vendors,
meaning
vendors
that
set
up
a
display
or
a
stand
are
allowed
in
all
commercial
zones.
Roaming,
sidewalk
vendors
are
allowed
in
commercial
zones
and
residential
zones.
V
V
One
of
the
things
I
might
suggest
is
in
other
areas
other
than
the
downtown.
We
may
not
have
that
much
room
on
the
sidewalks.
We
may
not
have
a
full
six
foot
sidewalk,
and
so
what
we
might
look
at
is
outside
of
the
downtown
and
Uptown
areas,
for
example,
a
lesser
standard
that
still
maintains
Ada
accessibility
on
the
sidewalk,
but
wouldn't
necessarily
need
to
be
six
feet.
V
In
addition,
we're
prohibiting
vendors
within
10
feet
of
fire
hydrants
for
safety
access.
Obviously,
within
10
feet
of
bus
stops,
handicapped
parking
spaces
and
police
and
fire
driveways,
and
so
again.
Looking
at
safety
issues
and
keeping
them
back
from
those
particular
areas,
in
addition,
we're
prohibiting
sidewalk
vendors
within
Corner
visibility
zones.
This
is
again
based
on
the
needs
for
traffic
and
for
visibility
at
intersections
and
protecting
Public
Safety.
V
V
The
reason
for
that
is
again
looking
at
Public
Safety.
We
don't
want
to
create
trip
hazards
on
the
public
sidewalk,
and
so
for
those
reasons
we
are
proposing
those
restrictions
for
those
that
may
be
preparing
or
selling
food
products.
They
would
need
to
have
a
mobile
food
facility
permit
and
a
food
handler's
card
from
Riverside
County.
V
V
T
V
V
The
cities
May
establish
hours
of
operation.
What
we
are
proposing
is
in
residential
zones
to
limit
that
between
8
AM
and
7
pm
and
then
in
commercial
zones
from
8
A.M
to
9
p.m.
You
do
not
necessarily
need
to
have
restrictions
on
hours
or
you
may
propose
more
generous
hours,
and
so
we
would
take
direction
from
the
city
council
in
terms
of
what
you
feel
would
be
appropriate.
V
There
is
Provisions
in
state
law
relative
to
Vending
in
public
parks.
It
does
allow
cities
to
regulate,
to
the
extent
where
it
may
impact
the
recreation
or
Scenic
beauty
of
the
park,
and
so
what
we're
proposing
is
that
vending
would
not
be
permitted
in
public
parks
less
than
two
acres
in
size.
That
currently
includes
two
parks.
We
have
the
downtown
park.
Which
is
less
than
two
acres,
and
then
we
also
have
the
Gateway
Park
at
the
intersection
of
vista,
chino
and
Gene.
Autry
Which
is
less
than
two
acres
in
size.
V
However,
sidewalk
vendors
would
be
allowed
to
establish
or
set
up
on
the
sidewalks
adjacent
to
those
Parks.
They
just
would
not
be
allowed
within
the
park
itself.
Any
part
greater
than
two
acres
in
size
they
would
be
allowed
to
set
up
in
the
park.
We
are
not
proposing
any
additional
restrictions
in
those
parks.
There
is
one
caveat
to
that.
Wherever
we
have
an
exclusive
concessionaire
agreement
for
the
park,
they
would
not
be
permitted
within
that
Park
area.
V
V
There's
a
number
of
optional
considerations
that
we
do
have
in
the
staff
report.
These
are
generally
recommended
as
things
to
protect
the
city,
as
these
activities
will
be
allowed
in
the
public
rights
of
way.
The
first
of
those
is
require
an
encroachment
permit,
I
identify
in
the
staff
report
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
that
there
also
is
an
additional
time
frame
above
and
beyond
the
issuance
of
a
business
license.
V
That
would
make
that
a
little
bit
problematic
for
some
of
our
sidewalk
vendors.
Another
thing
that
is
suggested
is
to
have
them
carry
general
liability
insurance
with
the
city
named
as
an
additional
insured
again.
This
is
looking
at
the
fact
that
they
are
established
in
public
rights
of
way.
There
are
issues
that
may
occur,
and
so
this
would
offer
some
additional
protection
to
the
city
and
then,
finally,
what
we
have
seen
from
other
cities,
some
are
requiring
a
Live
Scan
report.
V
This
adds
to
the
cost
and
also
to
the
time
frame
required
in
terms
of
getting
that
report
back.
So
these
are
optional
considerations.
Your
City
attorney
would
certainly
encourage
the
general
liability
insurance
at
a
minimum,
but
we
will
take
direction
from
City
Council
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
you
want
to
require
those
items.
V
One
of
the
other
things
that
you
had
asked
us
to
look
at
is
our
food
truck
regulations
and,
while
I
don't
have
any
proposal
before
you
this
evening
for
modifications
to
our
existing
food
truck
ordinance.
I
did
offer
this
table
in
the
staff
report,
which
compares
the
proposed
mobile
food.
This
excuse
me
the
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
with
our
food
truck
ordinance
as
it
currently
exists,
and
so
this
is
intended
as
a
point
of
discussion.
V
If
you
want
to
give
us
Direction
this
evening
in
terms
of
what
you
would
like
us
to
see
to
modify
in
the
food
truck,
ordinance
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
take
your
input.
So
that
is
my
brief
overview
of
the
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
and
what
we
are
proposing.
I
also
have
Mr
Albert
Maldonado
from
best
best
in
Krieger.
Who
was
our
attorney
on
this
issue?
Who
would
be
available
to
answer
questions
you
might
have
about
what
is
permissible
under
state
law
and
the
ordinance
itself
with
that?
U
You
thank
you
so
much
for
your
work
on
this.
So
can
you
just
detail
sort
of
where
some
of
the
regulations
new
regulations
came
for
for
sidewalk
vendors
I
know,
I
had
originally
asked
about
food
trucks
because,
and
the
council
agreed
majority
of
council
agreed
to
consider
how
food
are
mobile.
Food
vending
vehicle
ordinance
is
sort
of
unfair
and
unreasonable,
and
almost
absurd
absurd.
Now,
when
you
compare
it
to
the
state
law
on
sidewalk
vending,
and
so
now,
what's
in
front
of
us
is
morphed
into
a
very
complex
system
of
regulation
for
sidewalk
vending.
U
So
could
you
just
explain
where,
because
that
my
understanding
is
that
SB
972
sets
a
lot
of
these
Frameworks
and
so
I
know
that
we
can
set
our
own
in
certain
areas
which
you've
described
in
the
staff
report
is
truly
excellent
in
explaining
those
differences.
But
can
you
just
walk
us
through?
Why
we're
here
now
now
considering
detailed
regulations
for
food
for
food,
sidewalk,
vendors.
U
Thank
you,
that's
helpful
and
I
I
know.
Sometimes
we
say
to
look
at
something,
but
we
don't
give
really
clear
Direction
about
what
it
is
we
wanted
to
see
with
sidewalk
vending,
so
I
think
that's
helpful
to
to
I
think
that
what
you've
brought
forward
was
good.
Just
hearing
from
public
comment
that
you
know
they're
might
be
further
involvement,
we'd
like
to
do
with
vendors
themselves.
There
might
be
some
barriers
included
in
here
that
we
didn't
intend
that
might
not
be
consistent
with
the
intent
at
least
of
state
law.
A
Other
questions
first
Flynn
or
Mr
Maldonado.
H
AC
AC
Okay,
wonderful
mayor,
pretend
I
can
answer
your
question
directly.
AC
AC
California
retail
food
code
is
state
law
that
empowers
each
of
the
counties
in
California
to
adopt
regulations
or
food
preparation
and
handling
and
imposed
criminal
penalties
as
well,
and
what
several
cities
have
done
of
Palm
Springs
has
not
is
adopt
by
reference:
the
County's
environmental
health
code
as
its
own
and
then
designate
either
itself,
the
city,
the
county,
or
both
to
enforce
that
now
City's
environmental
health
code.
What
SB
972
did
is
beginning
January.
1
it
closed
that
loophole.
AC
So
now
there
is
no
criminal
enforcement
whatsoever
for
food
sidewalk
vendors,
but
the
reason
that
it
is
not
included
in
the
ordinance
before
you
is
because
Palm
Springs
is
a
city
that
never
adopted
by
reference.
The
County's
environmental
health
code,
so
even
under
has
been
1946
before
SB
972
is
to
take
effect.
It
could
not
impose
criminal
penalties
upon
food.
AC
Sidewalk
vendors,
because
it
didn't
have
the
proper
code
from
the
county
adopted
and
so
as
being
972,
regulates
food
sidewalk
vendors
and
establishes
a
regime
of
regulations
for
counties
to
regulate
them,
but
the
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
will
not
regulate
the
approval
of
the
food
card
or
giving
of
the
food
handlers
card.
All
of
that
is
going
to
be
handled
by
the
county.
All
the
city
will
be
doing
is
is
pointing
to
the
county,
pointing
the
vendors
to
the
county
that
isn't
saying
whatever
the
county
is
going
to
require.
AC
A
Council
I'm
seeing
hands.
F
When
we're
talking
about
blocking,
building
entrances
or
Windows
you're,
only
talking
about
stationary,
not
someone
who's,
just
doing
a
transaction
who's,
roaming.
F
When
it
says
that
tables
chair,
shade,
structure,
freestanding
signs
or
other
site,
Furniture
are
not
permitted
if
someone's
selling
with
a
table
and
sitting
at
their
own
chair.
Is
that
not
permitted
or
you're
talking
about
people
setting
up
tables
and
chairs
to
make
it
a
place
for
people
to
stop
and
eat.
V
V
V
F
Think
freestanding
signs.
Let
me
touch
on
that
because
that's
how
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
see
I
mean
we
allow
them
on
Palm
Canyon
for
every
business,
who
wants
them
I'm,
just
sort
of
curious.
Why
we
wouldn't
allow
them
at
all
here.
V
The
intent
would
to
would
be
to
have
the
signage
on
the
display
or
the
rack
itself
again.
They
are
setting
up
in
the
sidewalk.
We
would
want
to
minimize
to
the
degree
possible
the
amount
of
obstructions
or
or
things
that
people
could
trip
and
fall
over.
However,
as
you
mentioned,
we
do
allow
A-frame
signs,
and
so,
if
that's
something
that
you
would
like
to
allow
as
part
of
this
ordinance,
we
can
certainly
make
adjustments.
F
But
even
and
that's
definitely
something
we
should
talk
about,
but
even
the
way
it's
written
they'd
be
allowed
to
have
a
sign
on
the
front
of
their
table.
Let's
say
they're
using
a
table,
not
a
cart
which
in
the
presentation
seemed
to
be.
They
had
to
use
a
cart,
but
if
they
can
use
a
table
right,
so
it's
cost
effective
for
them.
They
could
have
a
sign
in
the
front
and
on
the
side
attached
to
the
table.
Currently.
F
Could
okay,
as
far
as
then
the
hours
and
I
realize
we
there's
there's
leeway
in
what
the
state
allows
right,
there's
also
their
goals
so,
and
we
should
talk
about
both
of
those
but
for
commercial
zones.
My
reading
of
the
state
law
was
that
it
has
to
be
the
similar
as
other
businesses
on
the
street.
So
if
we
ban
it
at
9,
00
PM
when
restaurants
are
staying
open,
some
till
one
or
two
in
the
morning,
how
does
that
work.
F
V
When
we
look
at
Vending,
considering
that
we
have
sidewalk
vendors,
who
vend
retail
merchandise
versus
sidewalk
vendors,
that
then
food
products,
as
you
look
at
our
retail
businesses,
most
of
them
close
at
9,
00,
PM
or
earlier,
and
so
that's
where
we
started
as
a
starting
point.
If
the
council
would
like
to
extend
that,
that's
certainly
something
that
you
can
look
at.
If
you
want
to
remove
that
in
commercial
zones
as
well.
That's
certainly
something
that
you
could
look
at
and.
F
My
concern
here
was
on
the
legal
issue
because
my
my
reading
of
the
ordinance
which
I
haven't
read
again
today
but
I've,
read
recently
the
state
ordinance
was
it
had
to
be
similar
to
similar
types
of
businesses
on
the
same
street.
So
it
seems
that
we
we'd
have
to
sort
of
base
it
on
where
they're
located.
If
it's
stationary
right,
because
retail
May
close
right
at
eight
o'clock
on
most
of
Palm
Canyon
but
another
road,
they
may
be
open
later
right,
restaurants,
Etc
so
I
just
can
we
do
that?
I?
F
AC
Answer
is
is
yes
that
you
can
council,
member,
like
businesses
on
the
same
street
or
in
the
same
area.
You
know
slash
District
for
food
vendors
is
you
mentioned
a
restaurant,
a
food
sidewalk
vendor
and
Commercial
area
should
be
allowed
to
then
during
the
same
hours
as
a
restaurant.
Those
are
like
businesses
if
they
were
on
the
same
street.
My
legal
opinion
would
be.
The
city
should
allow
that.
Okay.
F
T
V
Notably
our
cannabis
businesses,
what
it
does
essentially
is
it
provides
the
the
background
on
the
individual
in
terms
of
any
convictions
they
may
have.
Some
cities
adopt
this
as
a
protective
measure,
especially
as
you
look
at
vendors
who
may
be
selling
to
minors
or
things
like
that,
and
so
that's
what
a
Live
Scan
report
is.
A
Thank
you.
Other
question
I
have
has
to
do
with
business
licenses.
So
if
we
adopt
recommendations
that
these
Street
vendors
obtain
a
business
license,
who
would
be
obtaining
the
business
license?
The
owner
of
the.
A
So
we've
received
reports
that
frequently
it
is
a
independent
owner
that
is
employing
and
at
wages
that
are
not
very
clear
and
the
street
vendors
are
working
for
that.
That
firm
would
we
have
the
ability
to
require
that
the
business
license
be
posted
on
any
Street
vending
site,
so
that
customers
would
be
able
to
see
whether
or
not
they're
buying
product
from
the
individual
that
they're
interacting
with
or
they're
buying
product
that
actually
is
owned
by
a
much
larger
entity.
I.
V
A
If
there
are
no
other
questions,
would
we
council,
member
Woods.
W
V
No,
they
could
serve
other
food
products.
As
an
example,
I
mentioned
the
hot
dog
carts
that
you
have
in
New,
York
City.
What
they
have
typically
is
self-contained
LP
gas
in
the
cart
itself,
which
then
Heats
warming
trays,
and
so
there
is
the
ability
to
do
that.
It
doesn't
produce
an
open
flame,
that's
exposed
to
the
public.
What
we're
trying
to
avoid
is,
as
I
mentioned,
some
of
the
the
issues
in
terms
of
having
a
barbecue
on
the
sidewalk,
for
example,
or
having
some
type
of
a
propane
burner
that
is
open
and
exposed.
V
Those
are
the
type
of
issues
that
we
want
to
avoid,
based
on
potential
hazards
to
the
general
public,
but
something
that
is
self-contained
in
a
cart
where
there
isn't
an
open
flame,
that's
exposed
would
be
appropriate
and
so
prepared.
Food
in
that
manner
would
be
would
be
permissible
under
the
ordinance,
as
proposed.
W
And
the
other
question
I
have
is:
if
somebody
has
a
food
truck
and
they
park
it
in
the
right
of
way.
Is
that
prohibited.
V
So
food
trucks
are
governed
by
our
Mobile
Food
Truck
ordinance.
Their
are
some
locational
restrictions
in
terms
of
where
they
may
Park
on
public
streets,
but
they
are
allowed
to
vend
in
the
public
rights
of
way.
V
W
W
We
have
a
very
popular
person
at
the
corner
of
Indian,
Canyon
and
racquet
club,
and
they
set
up
a
mobile
food
truck
nightly
lights,
Open
Flame
the
whole
works,
it
is
on
private
property.
It
serves
a
lot
of
people
when
the
restaurants
are
closed.
V
W
U
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
I,
think
that's
why
this
needed
clarification
is
because
there
is
a
lot
of
blurring
of
the
lines
between
what
is
a
food
truck.
What
is
a
mobile
food
street
vendor?
You
know
we
have
some
merging
of
the
two
like
that
one
which
I
think
is
a
popular
Taco
spot
and
they
it's
it's
kind
of
both
where
it
really
started
as
a
mobile
food
vendor.
U
U
U
Here's
the
thing
what
we
did
when
we
considered
food
trucks
a
while
ago,
is
that
they
were
seen
as
a
threat
to
restaurants,
and
they
were
an
ordinance
was
written
by
the
city
council
that
essentially
did
not
allow
food
trucks
in
most
areas
of
this
city
is
my
understanding
of
the
history
of
this
talking
to
city,
council
members
and
the
former
city
manager,
people
who
are
here
at
the
time,
and
if
you
read
the
ordinance,
you
see
that
you
know
that
it's
not
allowed
within
500
feet
of
public
parks,
food
trucks
or
not
that
they're
not
allowed
within
500
feet
of
schools
that
you
need
a
land
use
permit
to
have
one
on
your
own
private
property
I
mean
it's
the
hours
they
can
only
operate
from
nine
to
five
and
frankly,
this
ordinance,
in
my
opinion,
is
ridiculous.
U
So
I
hope
that
we're
not
seeing
it
as
just
a
negative
to
enforce
and
restrict
and
shut
down
like
we
did
with
food
trucks
and
that
that's
what
my
problem
is
with
this
ordinance,
that
it
doesn't
that
it's
overly
restrictive
and
it
doesn't
allow
and
I
think
that
in
some
ways
I
think
staff
did
an
excellent
job.
I
think
it
counteracts
the
intent
in
state
law
to
allow
for
this
industry
to
not
burden
it
with
Live
Scan,
and
you
know
criminal
background
checks
that
aren't
required
in
the
restaurant
industry
at
large.
U
You
know
things
that
don't
aren't
applicable
generally
so
I
understand
and
I'm
guilty
of
this,
because
I
called
our
city
manager
and
said:
why
is
there
a
Boost
Mobile
or
some
like
a
cell
phone
pop-up,
that's
happening
on
the
street
corners
right
and
it
seems
predatory
and
is
this
a
real
business,
so
I
understand
that
we
need
to
do
some
regulation,
but
I
think
this
is
just
much
too
too
much
regulation
and
we
haven't
engaged
street
vendor.
This
is
my
understanding,
and
so
we
have
some
really
good
expertise.
U
Juan
Espinoza
called
in
I,
followed
his
work
with
the
state
law
as
an
equal
justice.
Fellow
he's,
an
expert
on
this
and
I
think
that
we
just
have
a
lot
more
conversations
in
the
community
to
be
had
before.
We
would
consider
an
ordinance
but
I
will
ask
the
restaurant
industry
to
understand
and
to
consider
how
a
rising
tide
lifts
all
boats
and
more
business
is
better
for
all
of
us
and
we
don't
have
to
just
shut
it
down,
because
it's
seen
as
a
threat.
C
H
Yeah
I'm
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
the
same
issue
that
it's
becoming
overly
restrictive
and
essentially
doesn't
allow
for
a
lot
of
the
the
vendors
that
we're
actually
seeing
in
the
city
and
that
have
been
bringing
much
needed
business
to
Palm,
Springs
and
I.
Think
overwhelmingly
people
are
excited
about
them,
but
I.
You
know,
I
have
seen
issues
in
terms
of
blocking
the
sidewalk
too
much
to
prevent
people
from
going
past,
and
things
like
that.
We
need
to
address
those,
but
I.
H
Don't
think
that
we
need
to
necessarily
create
our
own
ordinance
to
do
that.
A
lot
of
the
things
that
need
to
be
addressed
are
already
already
exist
in
in
the
state
law,
and
so
then
just
making
sure
that
our
code
enforcement
has
an
understanding
of
what
the
state
law
says
to
make
sure
that
we
aren't
violating
in
any
Public.
H
Public
Access
right
of
ways
is
really,
in
my
opinion,
all
we
need
and
in
terms
of
the
food
trucks,
it
is
really
just
essentially
getting
rid
of
the
ordinance
and
allowing
it
to
again
go
under
state
law
and
be
one
and
the
same
I'm,
just
not
interested
in
completely
getting
rid
of
I.
Don't
want
to
get
rid
of
these
businesses
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
supporting
local
people
and
not
just
shutting
it
down.
H
When
really,
we
could
say,
hey
you're,
not
in
compliance
with
our
noise
ordinance,
you
need
to
be
in
compliance
with
our
noise
ordinance.
Instead
of
just
saying
you
can't
operate
anymore,
there's
already
things
that
exist
that
people
can
comply
with.
That
would
make
this
better
for
everyone.
Instead
of
putting
unnecessary
measures
on
them.
F
F
You
know
I,
think
state
law
was
designed
to
give
people
an
opportunity,
including
people
who
can't
get
jobs
because
they
have
recent
criminal
convictions.
I
mean
that's
right
in
their
ordinance,
so
the
Live
Scan
seems
really
very
counter
to
the
state
Law's
goals
and
to
provide
opportunities
for
low-income
people
and
immigrants
to
work
right
and
make
a
living
where
I
think
we
and
I
don't
know.
F
If
we
need
to
do
it
in
this
ordinance
or
how
I
think
there
are
issues
right,
because
I've
gone
by
some
they're,
a
decent
number
in
District
three,
both
in
residential
neighborhoods,
but
also
you
know,
in
commercial
neighborhoods,
where
you
have
odor
and
smoke
going
into
with
the
ones
with
open.
Flames
I've
had
complaints
from
residents
on
one
and
I've
had
complaints
from
businesses
which
really
impacts
right
their
business
right,
I
appreciate.
F
You
know
why
we'll
just
use
restaurants,
for
example,
feel
it's
unfair,
but
the
state
made
these
rules
right,
so
they
decided
they're
going
to
allow
this
and
a
restaurant
could
choose
to
do
it
as
well
right.
They
could
just
set
up
right
tables
and
sell
as
well
without
paying
rent,
but
they
can
have
people
sitting
there
and
that's
that
is
a
difference,
but
I
do
think.
Dealing
with
smoke
right,
dealing
I
mean
you've,
seen
some
of
the
strung
up
lighting
poles
that
can't
imagine
or
allowed
in
our
city
already
to
the
mayor.
F
Pro
tems
Point,
but
you
know
I
think
we
want
to
look
at
the
health
and
safety
issues.
F
I
think
those
are
a
real
concern,
and
so
those
are
the
ones
that
you
know
seem
to
be
the
biggest
impact,
the
ones
where
the
business
is
really
having
an
impact,
not
just
because
they're
competing
quote
unquote,
but
because
they're
impacting
the
guests
and
the
employees
there.
Also,
you
know
how
we
figure
out.
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
doing
ADA
compliance
as
we
are
with
any
other,
as
we
do
with
everything
else,
and
you
know
if
we
go
smaller
than
the
six
feet.
F
You're
gonna
have
the
problems
which
we've
seen
at
some
of
these,
where
you
have
customers
totally
blocking
passage
right
and
someone
in
a
wheelchair
on
a
walker.
You
know
at
night.
It
has
a
hard
time
you
know.
Yes,
people
can
move,
but
I
think
we.
We
want
to
look
at
that,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
go
through
the
issues.
I
think
we
really
we
want
to
address
and
I
feel
the
same
way
on
food
trucks.
They
I
think
they
should
need
to
be
similar.
I
think
the
state
the
state
has
made.
F
What
you
might
say
was
ridiculous
into
what's
absurd,
but
in
this
the
food
truck
ordinances,
almost
a
decade
old,
I
think-
and
yes,
you
don't
want
them,
taking
up
lots
of
parking
spaces
on
Palm
Canyon,
but
the
restrictions
are
so
severe.
I
mean
we
really
did.
Basically
the
ordinance.
F
The
city
has
just
really
prohibits
them
for
the
most
part
and
pre-covet
we're
getting
close
to
getting
some
changes
done
so
so,
just
as
far
as
Direction
I
think
those
are
the
areas
and-
and
maybe
it's
a
question
for
the
City
attorney
who's
on-
is
sues
like
the
smoke
noise
safety
obviously
complying
with
County
right
food
handling
rules.
F
All
those
make
sense
to
me
do
we
need
an
ordinance
for
that
or
based
on
the
way
the
state
law
is
written,
or
do
we
have
enough
already
in
our
Arsenal
to
just
give
direction
for
enforcement
of
current
rules
to
get
there.
AC
So
I
have
not
read
the
ordinances
governing
the
topics
that
you
just
mentioned,
but
I'm
going
to
guess
that,
among
their
penalties
include
criminal
penalties
and
under
SB
946,
none
of
those
criminal
penalties
will
be
enforceable.
It
also
would
not
be
enforceable
if
you
pass
this
ordinance.
No
criminal
enforcement
is
allowed
whatsoever
anymore.
So,
even
if
you
have
you
know
someone
having
lights
and
smoke
and
they're
really
being
let's
say,
a
pest,
you
cannot
enforce
criminally
as
to
that
vendor.
AC
The
best
that
you
could
do
is
you
give
them
an
admin
site,
but
if
they
ignore
them,
you
continue
giving
them
to
them,
but
if
they
ignore
all
of
them,
the
city
can
take
that
vendor
to
court,
get
a
civil
judgment
forcing
them
to
pay
and
by
the
way
you
have
to
allow
someone
who
has
someone
who's,
let's
say
low
income.
You
have
to
allow
them
to
pay
whatever
they
can
pay
to
say.
Our
fine
is
a
hundred
dollars.
AC
If
they
can
only
pay
50,
then
the
law
says
we
have
to
accept
50.,
but
let's
just
say
that
they're
not
they're,
not
paying
at
all,
and
and
now
we
have
that
civil
judgment
requiring
them
to
pay
the
city
for
those
fines.
If
they
ignore
that
court
order,
then
we
can
arrest
them
and
enforce
criminally,
but
everything
up
until
that
point
there
is
no
criminal
enforcement
that
we
could
do
whatsoever,
regardless
of
anything
that
you
currently
have
on
the
books.
AC
F
AC
Think
I
think
maybe
the
biggest
thing
would
be
vending
stationary
vendors
in
residential
areas.
You
probably
don't
have
that
anywhere
on
on
your
books
now
and
the
state
law
allows
you
to
prohibit
allows
you
to.
That.
H
You
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
I
don't
want
to
restrict
Vending
in
residential
areas.
We
have
so
many
fruit
vendors
that
are
set
up
in
our
residential
area
in
neighborhoods
and
they've,
been
wonderful
and
people
stop
by
and
get
fruit
from
them
and
they've
been
doing
this
for
years
and
they're
I.
Don't
I
think
that
we've
been
hearing
some
complaints
about
the
tacos
and
things
that
have
been
sold,
but
we
certainly
have
not
heard
anything
about
some
of
these
others
or
flower
vendors
as
well.
F
There's
one
coming
to
that:
yeah
I
think
a
few
complaints
I've
gotten
on
those
have
related
to
sort
of
how
far
not
how
that
they're
not
back
enough
for
some
of
them,
and
they
could
be
right
and
yeah
and
trash
right.
That
and
I
think
there's
ways
we
can
help
right
work
with
them
to
to
address
both
of
those
because
obviously
leaving
trash
on
the
street
isn't
allowed
anyway.
F
A
If
I
could
a
few
comments
and
I
I
think
the
motivation
of
the
state
legislature
was
pretty
clear,
they
were
trying
to
help
underprivileged
individuals
who
were
struggling
to
have
an
opportunity
to
to
make
an
income
and
to
supplement
an
income,
and
that's
a
very
laudable
goal
in
the
history
of
Street
vending,
particularly
in
some
neighborhoods
is
very
long,
and
it
has
been
largely
immigrant
to
individuals
who
are
getting
a
foothold
into
entrepreneurship
and
those
are
things
that
I'm,
supportive
of
and
and
want
to
continue.
A
But
someone
setting
up
an
open
flame
in
the
middle
of
our
downtown.
Is
it
entirely
a
different
matter
and
I
think
it
is
appropriate
for
us
to
have
health
and
safety
rules?
A
I'm
surprised
to
find
that
we
have
not
adopted
the
County
Environmental
food
code.
I
believe
we
definitely
should
be
doing
that,
but
I
must
tell
you.
I
am
very
concerned
that
the
explosion
that
we
have
seen
in
our
city
in
the
last
year
of
food
vending
is
not
coming
from
local
folks
who
are
trying
to
get
a
foothold,
but
are
individuals
that
are
working
for
someone
else,
and
we
don't
know
that
yet.
A
But,
given
how
quickly
this
industry
has
exploded
in
our
city,
I
find
it
I
find
myself
struggling
to
believe
that
it
was
suddenly
organically
grown
from
local
individuals
and
the
stories
that
these
vendors
are
actually
working
for
large
corporate
interests
are
into
large
employers
out
of
Los.
Angeles
is
one
that
I'm
concerned
is
is
true,
so
I
think
it's
important.
We
know
who's
who
owns
these
businesses
and
it's
important.
A
The
public
knows
who
who
in
fact
owns
the
business
and
I,
don't
have
a
great
amount
of
sympathy
for
a
organization,
a
hundred
miles
away,
sending
people
into
our
community
where
there's
not
clarity
as
to
what
wages
they
are
being
paid.
A
If
what
we
have
done
is
create
a
new
opportunity
for
immigrant
labor
to
be
exploited,
I,
don't
think,
that's
something
that
we
want
to
do
in
our
city
or
anywhere
else
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
facts
are
yet
I
and
I
want
to
understand
what
those
facts
are
before
we
start
to
proceed
so
with
with
that.
A
My
concern
is
that
we
need
more
time
to
to
know
exactly
who
it
is
that
we're
interacting
with,
but
in
the
meantime,
what
we
can
do
from
a
health
and
safety
standpoint
is
something
I
believe
we
should.
We
should
be
doing
council
member
Woods.
W
All
right,
thank
you,
mayor
I
would
Echo
what
the
mayor
said.
I
I
know
in
the
city
of
Santa,
Monica
they've
dealt
with
this
exact
same
problem,
where
there
is
almost
a
a
mafia
style
that
operates
those
vendors.
W
They
may
provide
some
insight
into
what
we
may
need
to
do
here,
but
I
agree
that
there's
a
huge
difference
between
a
small
mod
pod
who
wants
to
sell
vegetables
or
fruit
on
the
corner
and
somebody
who
is
exploiting
people
for
purpose
so
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
to
that
is,
but
I
do
think
having
some
time
to
investigate
that,
so
that
we
can
assure
and
also
if
somebody
gets
sick,
you
know
how
do
they
know
who
to
go
to
you
know
in
that
type
of
a
setting,
so
I
I'm
not
sure.
F
Sure,
and
one
of
the
things
right,
the
state
that
allows
is,
although
we'd
have
to
probably
have
something
to
allow
it,
but
getting
the
name
in
current
mailing
address
of
the
vendor,
as
well
as,
if
they're
an
agent
or
work
for
an
individual
company
in
that
data,
and
so
until
we
get
that
data,
we
won't
know
those
answers,
so
I
do
agree.
We
want
to
get
that
data
to
have
a
better
sense.
F
Right
and
I
think
you
know,
maybe
we
can
do
some
kind
of
you
know
community
meeting
that
includes
reaching
out
to
the
vendors.
You
know
it's
probably
hard
for
them
to
participate,
but
could
be
helpful
as
well,
as
you
know,
others
to
get
more
input
on
that.
F
A
Think
we
need
to
know,
I
have
heard
reports
and
I
I,
just
don't
know
whether
they're
valid
or
not,
that
these
poor
folks
are
being
charged
by
the
individual
talk
individual
tortilla
that
is
distributed
and
that
there's
a
count
made
of
of
each
one
of
them.
If
that's
true,
that's
exploitation.
That
is
not,
and
if
it's
not
true,
then
we
we
need
to
know
councilmember
hostage.
U
Thank
you
if
I
can
just
ask
and
just
to
clarify
my
comments.
I
do
a
great
health
and
safety.
So
what
you
said:
odor
smoke,
open,
Flames
or
any
safety,
public
health
or
safety
issues.
We
should
address
I'm
interested
in
how
it
overlaps
with
SB
972
and
the
regulations
there
and
then
I'm
interested
in
learning
more
about
the
county,
health,
environmental,
health
rules
and
it
sounds
like
the
county
has
a
mobile
food
vending
ordinance
as
well.
U
So
how
those
compare
because
and
I
know
a
lot
of
organizations
work
closely
with
Riverside
I,
followed
the
city
of
riversides
work
on
this
and
getting
to
an
ordinance.
So
a
lot
just
we
don't
have
to
recreate
the
wheel
here
so
just
to
be
clear.
I
do
agree.
Health
and
safety
ADA
compliance
I,
don't
agree
with
sort
of
some
of
the
Limited
hours
that
seem
to
restrict
active
the
Live
Scan
an
exorbitant
fee
and
for
an
encroachment
permit,
which
probably
isn't
exorbitant
compared
to
how
much
it
costs
the
city
to
implement,
but
might
be
exorbitant.
U
You
know
it's
interesting.
You
know
it
sounds
like
we
are
talking
about
those
two
categories
and
so
I
think
staff
got
that
right
with
roaming
versus
stationery
right
because
I
agree
I'm
concerned
about
not
allowing
them
in
residential
because
I
think
of
the
the
vendors
who
are
selling
flowers
or
fruit
and
who
are
like
useful
Community
vendors,
and
we
want
the
I
want
those
in
my
neighborhood
so
versus
some
of
the
other
things
that
we're
hearing
I
will
say
in
just
a
plug
for
like
Economic
Opportunity
and
economic
development
work.
U
U
Indio
Eric
bester
Isle
did
a
pilot
program
in
Indio
and
he
got
the
Indio
Food
Truck
Park
and
the
Coachella
Food
Truck
Park,
and
we
had
been
working
with
him
on
a
program
to
support
local
owners
to
actually
get
certified
and
get
their
Public
Health
certificates
and
be
able
to
go
into
business
and
I
will
say
that
model
of
Economic
Development
from
the
ground
up
and
we
can
invest
any
resources
in
that,
as
opposed
to
like
criminalization,
will
work
a
lot
better.
So
I
mean
we
need
to
do
this.
U
We
won't
criminalize,
but
yeah
I
think
investing
some
City
funds
there
and
doing
that
work
of
getting
vendors
involved
in
City
processes
will
will
help,
because
those
are
the
business
owners
of
the
future
too.
If
they
can,
you
know
continue
to
grow
the
brick
and
mortar
of
the
future
if
they
can
continue
to
get
Investments
so
yeah
just
to
Echo.
So
I
think
that.
U
W
Would
agree
on
what
was
just
stated:
I
would
add
one
other
thing
and
I
use
an
example
and
the
City
of
Miami.
There
is
an
overpass,
an
underpass
excuse
me
with
the
sidewalk
that
goes
through
it
and
a
bus.
That's
under
the
underpass,
a
bus,
stop
I
should
say,
and
there
is
a
vendor
that
uses
a
bleacher
style
display
to
display
flowers
and
they're
there
every
day
and
when
you
walk
under
that
underpass
and
you're,
you
sit
at
that
bus.
W
Stop
you
not
only
see
this
beautiful
display
of
flowers,
but
you
actually
see
you
actually
smell
them
as
you're
sitting
at
the
bus
stop,
but
I
think
our
ordinance.
The
way
it's
written
may
not
allow
something
like
that
and
I
think
that's
a
shame.
I
think
I
would
like
to
seize
and
maybe
that's
different
than
food,
and
we
can
separate
the
two
or
something
but
I
think
that
that
would
be
an
asset
to
the
community
versus
a
detriment
to
the
community.
W
H
I
think
the
thing
that
is
the
most
obvious
to
me
here
is
that
we
we
have
not
engaged
with
the
community
of
folks
who
are
actually
selling
food
or
flowers
or
other
goods
and
I.
Think
that's
really.
The
most
important
part
here
is
really
engaging
with
those
folks
and
and
finding
out
how
this
benefits
them
or
not,
and
but
I
do
think
that
there
are
the
the
worker.
The
folks
who
have
been
organizing
regarding
sidewalk
vending
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
really
amazing
work
over
the
last
several
years.
H
So
we
do
have
more
people
vending
than
ever
before,
and
part
of
that
is
because
of
the
organizing
efforts
of
activists
in
making
this
decriminalizing
it
and
really
allowing
for
people
to
take
these
opportunities.
So
I
think
that
part
of
it
is
just
that.
H
There's
been
a
shift,
and
people
are
taking
advantage
of
that,
and
a
lot
of
people
have
been
ready
to
to
do
this
for
a
long
time
or
used
to
do
it
in
other
areas
of
the
Coachella
Valley
and
are
now
feeling
confident
and
able
to
do
it
here
in
Palm
Springs,
which
is
new
for
us
and
we'll
take
some
getting
used
to
for
some.
H
But
I
do
think
that
we
have
a
lot
of
thing
of
ways
to
easily
regulate
the
issues
that
we
do
have,
while
still
allowing
these
businesses
to
thrive
and
not
be
hidden
away.
So
I
do
think
they
they
serve
a
really
important
role
in
our
city
and
for
me,
are
a
good
reminder
of
that.
There's
other
folks
in
Palm
Springs,
and
not
just
fancy,
restaurants
that
are
downtown.
E
A
Any
other
comments
from
anyone
all
right,
then
you
have
the
direction
very
good.
All
right,
then
we
it's
time
to
move
on
to
city,
council,
city
manager,
requests
an
upcoming
agenda
development.
S
Thank
you
mayor
council,
go
ahead
and
put
up
the
upcoming
agenda
alternative
agenda
for
December
5th,
our
next
council
meeting,
and
we
have
an
update
from
Riverside
County
Transportation
Commission
on
the
CV
Rail
Project
Dream
Hotel,
Amendment
airport
concession
agreement,
building
code,
update
first
reading,
Surplus
Property
Disposition
resolution
and
a
diversity
policy
for
City
boards
commissions
committees.
S
S
G
F
Indeed,
welcome
back
nice
tree
by
the
way
I
know:
we've
been
working
on
sort
of
two
minor
items:
I
don't
know
if
you're
planning
on
bringing
those
on
the
fifth
one
was
on
some
minor
changes
to
the
ethics
right
for
people
who
are
on
who
are
700,
filers
I
think
is
right
that
people
have
to
recuse
themselves.
G
To
come
on
the
fifth,
yes,
I,
have
the
ordinance
and
staff
report
done
for
the
public,
Integrity
ordinance,
Amendment
and
I
suspect
that
I
can
get
the
other
one
done
in
time
for
the
agenda.
Publishing
for
boards
and
commissions
I
will
point
out
the
tribal
sales
tax
agreement.
That
may
be
something
that
can
be
done
by
consent.
If
we
want
to
be
a
little
bit
more
efficient
I,
don't
see
it,
as
certainly
from
a
legal
perspective.
It
does
not
need
to
be.
You
know,
business
or
legislative.
F
Thank
you
and
then
one
just
quick
update,
so
at
visit
greater
Palm
Springs.
At
our
last
meeting
a
week
ago,
we
had
a
report
from
the
Dei
consultant
that
has
been
hired,
which
was
just
amazing
right
and
to
see
the
work
that
has
been
going
on
of
as
a
greater
Palm
Springs
with
a
staff
person
who's
focused
at
least
a
good
part
of
our
time.
F
On
those
issues
and
I
know,
we
talked
in
the
budget
that
that
was
a
position
we'd
like
to
see
here
and
but
I
think
would
be
really
helpful.
I'll
get
the
report.
Maybe
we
can
just
share
it
with
Council
I
want
to
share
it
with
you
as
well,
truly
think
about
you
know
it
was
say,
as
we
did
with
climate
and
the
environment,
we
wanted
that
to
permeate
everything,
but
if
we
don't
have
someone
in
charge
of
it,
it
really
doesn't
seem
to
happen.
F
So
having
sat
through
sort
of
this
meeting
and
the
presentation
and
seeing
what's
happening
really
in
a
matter
of
six
months,
I
think
there
with
that
focused
intentionality
on
it
I
think
it'll
be
really
important
for
the
city
to
consider
doing
that.
You
know
having
someone
at
least
dedicated
a
portion
of
their
time
to
it
and
maybe
bringing
in
someone
who
works
with
municipalities
on
how
to
do
a
better
job
on
Dei,
so
I
will
I
will
get
that
to
you
for
the
city
manager,
but
there's
a
lot
right.
F
We
can
do
I.
Think
everyone
wants
to
do
it,
but
I
don't
think
it.
As
you
know,
if
we
don't
have
someone
taking
the
lead
on
the
staff
level,
it
just
isn't
going
to
happen
at
the
level
I
think
we,
the
council,
wants
to
see
it
and
the
community
wants
to
see
it.
So
I
wanted
to
share
that.
Thank
you
mayor
thank.
A
You
I
could
add
the
mayor.
Pro
teminite
both
had
an
opportunity
in
the
last
two
weeks
to
attend
the
national
league
City's
conference
in
Kansas
City,
very,
very
strong
conference,
particularly
many
speakers
talking
about
diversity,
issues
and
most
profoundly
talking
about
issues
of
individuals
that
are
at
substantial
risk
among
the
youth
and
ways
to
to
move
forward,
so
very
pleased
to
be
able
to
do
that.
A
It
did
remind
me,
though,
we
travel
and
need
to
travel
frequently,
but
our
processes
here
are
a
little
different
than
what
I'm
used
to
with
another
organization
Calpers,
where,
whenever
we
are
going
to
be
traveling
out
of
out
of
our
area,
you
need
to
file
a
travel
request
in
advance
and
that
travel
request
and
the
cost
of
it
is
made
known
to
the
entire
body
through
being
on
a
consent.
Calendar
usually
consent
calendar
item,
but
it's
made
known
to
the
public.
A
So
I
would
like
to
see
staff
come
back
at
the
future
date
and
provide
us
with
a
change
in
processes
so
that
any
travel
that
we
are
going
to
be
taking
that's
going
to
be
reimbursed
from
the
city
is
made
known
in
advance.
Unless
there's
an
emergency
so
that
it
is
something
that
all
members
of
council
are
aware
of
and
in
doing
that,
I
believe
we
should
identify
all
of
the
travel
that
any
of
us
has
taken.
F
I
think
that
makes
sense
and
I
remember.
It
must
have
just
been
my
first
year
or
two
though
you
know
we
used
to
when
we
did
council
member
comments
before
but
get
short
reports
from
people
who
did
travel
so
the
rest
of
the
council
and
the
public
has
some
benefit
of
of
that,
and
if
there
are
reports
that
you
know
you've
Garner
you,
you
got
there
that
it
gets
shared
with
Council
and
you
know
in
the
public
record.
So
so
there's
the
benefit
for
everyone
from
from
the
travel
I
think
could
be
really
helpful.
G
F
Well,
even
more
so
then,
maybe
that's
why
we
were
doing
them
back
then,
and
the
other
thing
we
probably
should
do
the
same
just
for
that
for
you
Council
discretionary
funds,
because
I've
been
asked
several
times
like
what
do
those
go
for,
and
you
know
they're
being
used
for
fellows
and
interns,
and
you
know
or
going
to
something.
You
know
that
your
need
to
go
to,
but
just
so
the
public
knows
that
it's
not
just
you
know.
F
Some
people
have
called
it
a
slush
fund
and
it's
not
but
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
do
that
for
this
past
year
and
moving
forward
as
well
just
to
share
it
on
consent.
You
know
what
what
that
money
goes
for,
because
it
goes
for
the
community
and
I.
Think
it's
important
that
you
know
we
always
want
to
be
transparent
on
that
any.
W
Certainly
I
see
we
talked
about
I,
see,
what's
not
on
the
agenda
before
we
end,
our
term
was
expanding.
The
opportunities
for
traffic
calming
and
I
had
met
with
the
engineering
department.
About
that,
it's
not
going
to
be
on
the
agenda.
It
looks
like
at
this
point:
I
would
like
that
not
to
be
dropped.
I
think
it's
very
important.
Our
traffic
coming
ordinance
is,
and
staff
I
think
agrees
is
a
little
out
of
date.
W
The
pictures
don't
really
relate
to
what
we
have
here
in
the
desert.
So
if
we're
not
going
to
get
it
under
my
term
I'd
like
to
see
basically
that
continued
into
the
next,
which
I
think
they
want
to
do.
The
other
thing.
That's
not
on
the
agenda
is
bus
stops
I,
think
we
need
to
stand
it's
not
on
the
agenda.
I
again,
don't
want
it
to
go.
W
It's
been
asked
for
quite
a
bit
of
time
and
I
think
we
need
to
standardize
the
amenity
package
that
goes
into
bus
stops
and
ensure
that
bus
stop
can
be
moved
as
build
out
happens
and
Transit
stops
move
and
how
we're
currently
building
our
bus
stops
doesn't
provide
the
full
amenity
package
and
they're
not
allowed
they're
built
in
such
a
way
that
we
can't
just
up
and
move
them
like
the
ones
that
are
that
sunline
has
actually
specified
so
I
just
don't
want
those
to
be
forgotten
by
the
future
Council.
Thank
you.