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A
C
B
B
A
B
Mr.
chair,
we
would
suggest
we
have
councilmember
Roberts
and
a
member
of
the
engineering
department
that
will
be
bringing
us
an
update
on
Cornelia
white
we'd
like
to
ask
if
we
could
bring
those
up
before
any
of
the
new
businesses
heard
and
then
under
new
business.
We
would
like
to
take
4b
before
we
take
for
a
if
that's
possible.
All.
A
So,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
the
this
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
historic
site,
Preservation
Board,
on
agenda
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
board.
Although
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board,
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
There
will
be
three
minutes
assigned
for
each
speaker.
Testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
hearing
and
we
do
not
have
a
public
hearing
on
our
agenda
today.
A
D
Good
morning,
can
you
hear
me
we
do.
My
voice
is
a
little
dry
today.
So
forgive
me
good
morning.
My
name
is
Jade
Nelson
pumping
native
and
owner
of
PS
walk
with
me.
Nearly
every
week,
I
conduct
historic
walking
tours
of
old
Las
Palmas
and
the
first
house
I
talk
about
is
located
at
216
via
Lola.
This
house
was
designed
by
architect,
John
Porter,
Clarke
and
thereby
reputable
local
contractors
were
often
inform
in
1940.
D
Here's
a
copy
of
the
building
permit
notice
from
the
Desert
Sun
newspaper,
the
home
was
constructed
for
Pioneer
Florian
Boyd,
who
went
on
to
become
mayor
in
the
1950s
during
his
tenure,
the
airport
opened
and
City
Hall
was
built
there
by
making
him
largely
responsible
for
helping
to
bring
Palm
Springs
into
the
modern
era.
Up
until
just
a
couple
of
months
ago,
216
B
Lola
had
retained
a
high
level
of
original
integrity
prior
to
being
sold
by
the
family
of
the
first
owner.
D
It
provided
an
excellent
context
on
my
trouthe,
add
to
the
evolution
and
growth
not
only
of
Las
Palmas
but
of
the
city.
The
house
was
truly
very
important.
Now
half
of
it
is
gone
as
you
can
see
from
this
photograph
finger
class
we
find
by
nature
of
his
age.
Why
was
it
not
flagged
for
a
should
P
B
review
prior
to
the
issuance
of
a
work
permit
to
remodel?
We
must
not
allow
such
significant
historic
resources
to
go
unnoticed.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
E
A
E
Thank
you.
Alright,
my
name
is
Florian
Boyd
I'm,
a
lifetime
resident
of
Palm
Springs
grew
up
here.
My
family
is
the
family
that
Jade
mentioned
in
reference
to
this
house.
It
was
built
in
the
40s
late
thirties,
forties
by
my
grandfather,
senior
reactive
resident
of
Palm
Springs,
former
city
councilman
from
there
he
was
mayor
when
this
building
was
dedicated
house,
as
Jade
said,
is
a
John
Porter,
Clarke
design
house
I
of
the
original
blueprints
and
plans
also
elevation
of
the
house.
E
The
house
has
been
in
my
family,
always
been
in
my
family
until
this
summer,
when
my
sister
lived
in
it
after
my
grandmother
died,
my
father
died,
went
into
a
trust
and
my
sister
and
I
decided
we
could
not
continue
to
keep
the
house.
We
sold
the
house,
the
people
bought.
It
were
interested
in
refurbishing.
That
was
what
we
hoped
would
happen.
E
Instead
half
of
its
gone
and
absolutely
gone,
maybe
there's
probably
nothing
that
can
be
done.
How
we
just
such
a
shame
that
it
couldn't
have
been
stopped
and
that
the
city
and
the
historical
people
weren't
somehow
aware
and
couldn't
stopped
it.
It
has
been
red-tagged
now,
I,
don't
know
what
what
but
the
exact
process
is
now
that's
been.
Red-Tagged
and
demolition
has
stopped
ed
loss
to
the
city
that
this
building
here
was
designed
by
John
Porter
Clarke
aim
architect
of
that
couple
home
really
hoping
to
see
it.
A
A
Linda,
you
and
I
have
had
a
conversation
similar
to
this
dick
I
know
that
this
is
very
close
to
your
heart.
This
is
a
situation
where
I
think
this
falls
under
remodeling
as
opposed
to
demolition
and
because
they
have
pulled
a
remodeling
permit
and
they
have
left
significant
portions
of
the
property
and,
in
particular,
the
chimney
that
this
doesn't
fall
under
any
kind
of
city
review.
The
discussion
is
ongoing
as
to
whether
this
board
should
how
does
the
city
alter
its
ordinance
to
include
these
types
of
renovations
so
for
our
review
and
I?
G
F
G
G
F
A
A
A
A
J
K
L
L
We
retained
rule
young
at
that
point
who
came
in
and
proposed
a
method
of
restoration
which
the
the
board
decided
was
not
recommended
and
directed
really
young
to
retain
an
architectural
historic
firm
which
the
city
did.
Arg
Arg
then
proceeded
to
develop
a
report
which
we've
provided
to
you
as
a
means
of
walking
you
through
again
the
structure
and
the
areas
that
are
in
need
of
repair,
Arg
completed
the
report.
L
That's
more
cost
effective,
which
is
why
we're
here
today
again
with
Dave,
Johnston
and
Dave,
will
help
walk
us
through
the
the
structure
and
explain
the
the
method
of
his
approach
and
why
it
is
the
least
intrusive
approach.
We
believe
and
would
recommend
your
approval.
So
we
can
move
forward.
Thank
you.
Dave.
I
A
I
Along
with
that,
we
also
volunteered
our
time
to
establish
a
new
landscape
plan
and
install
that
landscaping
at
no
charge
to
the
city,
because
part
of
the
big
one
of
the
biggest
problems
with
that
facility
was
that
the
water
was
spraying
right
onto
directly
onto
the
facility
from
all
the
irrigation.
And
you
know
you
got
a
lot,
you
had
a
lot
of
dry,
rot
and
continued
on
and
we
said:
look
you
got
to
get
the
water
off
the
building.
Well,
one
thing
that
they
have
done
that
since
that
four-year
period
started.
I
So
we,
the
city,
secured
the
the
services
of
a
local
structural
engineer.
He
put
together
a
plan.
We
actually
what
we
did
is
we
prepared
an
as-built
drawing
for
him
to
work
off
of,
and
then
he
prepared
a
a
structural
plan,
an
analysis
that
we've
used
as
a
baseline
for
work,
that
our
scope
of
work
that
we're
proposing
the
differences
are
I,
don't
know
how
involved
you
have
been
in
reviewing
what
was
presented
by
the
original
company,
the
original
Consulting,
Group
and
rule,
but
no
matter
how
you
looked
at
it.
I
There
was
still
material
being
removed
on
the
inside
of
the
of
the
structure
to
access
and
to
gain
access
to
allow
bolts
to
be
placed
so
not
only
was
the
outside
of
the
structure
being
compromised,
but
the
inside
of
the
structure
was
also
being
compromised.
So
our
our
approach
is
that
we're
only
going
to
compromise
the
inside
of
the
structure
in
certain
areas
where
the
railroad
ties
are
and
to
do
that.
We're
removing
the
drywall
/
board
finishes
that
are
in
there
replacing
them
with
light
materials.
I
Installing
sheer
panel,
instead
of
through
bolts
drilled
from
we'd,
have
to
remove
the
roof
to
have
these
through
bolts
placed
all
the
way
through
drilled,
all
the
way
through
the
railroad
ties
connecting
at
the
bottom
plate
connecting
the
top
plate
and
connecting
to
the
roof
system.
So
our
approach
was,
and
what
res
had
come
up
with
was
structure.
I
Linear
I
come
up
with
was
a
an
approach
to
remove
the
finishes
that
were
coming
off
anyway
because
of
the
bolting,
no
matter,
no
matter
how
you
approach
that
the
finishes
are
still
coming
off
then
coming
in
installing
the
sheer
panel,
then
putting
like
finishes
back
onto
the
areas
that
are
noted
on
the
plan.
And
if
you
look
at
the
original
report,
the
draft
report
that
mark
is
prepared.
I
I
Don't
believe
that
there
are
new,
battens
are
I,
believe
their
new
battens
I,
don't
think
there
are
original
battens
I
could
be
mistaken,
but
looking
at
them
and
the
nails
the
way
they
were
applied
and
and
they're
only
cut
in
four-foot
links,
they
could
have
been.
You
know
had
in
full-length
pieces
and
they
can
be
had
in
full
look
pieces
and
that's
what
we
were
proposing.
But
we
also
thought
we
would
take
the
siding
off.
I
Remove
the
siding,
add
the
sheer
panel
to
the
outside
of
the
structure
put
in
a
new
vapor
barrier
system
to
have
so
that
would
you
wouldn't
have
water
intrusion
into
the
building
or
moisture
onto
the
structure?
Put
it
in
a
copper
flashing,
a
copper
flashing
at
the
base
that
would
allow
the
water
to
sheet
away
from
the
building
and
not
gather
around
the
core
of
the
building
between
the
top
of
the
masonry
rock
wall
and
and
the
siding
that,
but
to
the
top
of
the
rock
wall.
I
The
water
ponds
there
and
sits
there
and
and
then
goes
back
underneath
and
is
impacting
the
the
mud
sill
or
the
plate.
The
wood
plate.
That's
there!
So
there's
dry
rot,
that's
occurring
there
and
we
thought
that
that
could
be
mitigated
simply
by
adding
a
simple
copper
flashing
that
would
allow
the
water
to
shed
away
from
that
wood
structure
to
masonry
structure.
I
I
There
are
some
areas
that
we
look
at
and
typically
around
the
HVAC
area,
where
the
HVAC
units
are
located,
where
there's
some
severe
rot
and
it's
rotted
up
six
to
eight
inches
and
some
of
those
they're
on
some
of
those
boards
and
I
think
that
those
would
simply
be
boards
that
we
look
at
to
be
replaced.
The
rest
of
it
I
believe
that,
could
it
could
be
done
in
the
way
I've
spoken
about
it,
where
it's
removed
flipped
over
cleaned
up,
look
prime
three
prime
and
flipped
over
and
REE
faced
and
refinished
on
the
outside.
I
I
I
The
windows
and
doors
were
another
issue
that
we
we
approached
four
years
ago.
Four
years
ago,
we
replaced
we,
we
actually
reef
rehabilitated
a
window
for
a
model
for
a
sample
for
I.
Believe
you
people
to
look
at
or
your
your
team
at
that
time,
to
look
at
and
review
to
look
at
the
aesthetic
to
look
at
how
we
approached
it
and
how
we
did
the
work
we
removed
that
window
from
the
site
took
it
to
our
shop,
replace
the
style
and
rails
reprime,
dit
repainted
it
and
put
it
back
in
to
our
knowledge.
I
It
looks
as
good,
if
not
as
better
than
the
original,
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
how
we
approach
that
again,
our
approach
was
would
be
the
same
way.
We
would
remove
door
and
window
whether
it's
be
one
at
a
time,
two,
at
a
time
board
up
the
area
that
we
had
removed
it
from
take
it
to
our
shop,
Rehab,
rehabilitate
that
piece
of
wood
and
that,
whether
it
be
style
rail,
whether
it
be
replacement,
whether
it
be
enhanced
with
epoxy.
I
However,
it
would
be
to
maintain
that
same
aesthetic
would
be
our
approach
for
that
same
thing
with
the
doors,
that's
the
same
approach
with
doors,
rehabilitating
the
doors
and
try
to
use
as
much
material
that's
existing
as
possible.
If
it's
completely
gone,
we
replace
like-for-like
same
dimensional
material,
same
everything.
That
window
was
putty
din,
weary
putty
did
back
in
with
the
like
material
and
I
think
you
could
tell
the
difference
between
that
window,
that
we
replaced
and
rehabilitated,
and
the
windows
that
are
currently
there
that
are
decent
shape.
I
I
Our
approach
would
be
using
like
for
like
materials
again
going
into
it,
replacing
with
like
for
like
materials
when
we,
when
we
remove
things,
there
was
another
element
that
was
going
to
be
done,
aesthetically
just
to
conceal
the
air-condition
equipment
from
view,
and
we
would
use
a
similar
cedar
product
to
same
dimension,
put
a
top
rail
bottom
rail
and
boards
in
between
and
create
the
same
kind
of
look
a
little
bit
taller.
So
it's
not
as
visible
as
it
is
right
now,
but
that
was
the
approach
with
that.
That
was
something
that
Jim
she
off.
I
I
That's
out
there
currently
right,
which
was
never
original,
that
that
railing
was
put
up
and
or
that
screen
wall
was
put
up
to
to
conceal
the
air-conditioners
when
they
were
in
the
structural
system
below
on
the
floor,
our
our
consultant
city's
consultant,
but
we
recommended
this
fellow
from
a
structural
standpoint,
came
up
with
some
porn
in
place.
Concrete
piers
that
would
be
excuse.
I
Mobile
home
jack,
that's
up
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
that
would
be
removed
and
there
would
be
a
concrete,
pier
there
with
a
bracket
that
supports
that
beam,
believe,
there's
27:23
or
that
there
are
placed
underneath
that
building.
So
we've
tried
to
we've
tried
to
mitigate
as
much
damage
to
the
building
as
possible.
I
Try
to
keep
the
aesthetic
core
of
the
building,
bring
the
cost
down
substantially
and
we're
still
committed
to
do
the
landscaping
or
no
cost
to
the
city.
That
was
always
a
commitment
that
I
had
made
personally
four
years
ago.
It
still
stands
also
includes
the
area
between
the
village,
green
and
the
bookstore.
That's
next
door.
I
That
area
we
heard
as
kind
of
a
no-man's
land,
but
we
I
think
it's
owned
by
the
city
and
there
was
going
to
be
a
garden
to
walk
through
garden
in
that
area
that
we
were
gonna
build
more
of
an
arid
garden,
not
necessarily
cactus,
or
anything
like
that.
That
would
create
problems
for
people
in
sticking
them
or
anything
like
that,
but
more
of
an
arid
garden
that
becomes
part
of
the
core
of
the
of
the
of
the
complex.
I
So
it's
not
just
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
walking
venture
adventure
too
as
well,
so
you
have
a
walk
through
garden
there
it's
conducive
to
all
the
desert,
plantings
and
plants.
Oh
I,
think
that's
really
the
core
of
it.
Rick
may
have
some
more
comment
because
he
he
was
a
nuts
and
bolts
guy
on
a
lot
of
this
in
meetings,
his
meetings
with
with
subcontractors,
his
meetings
with
engineers,
on-site
I,
wasn't
always
there
I
wasn't
present
when
he
was
he
was.
I
He
took
the
core
of
this
and
and
ran
with
it
once
we
did
get
the
engineering
plan
done
and
he
also
coordinated
with
Reza
to
do
the
as-built
drawing
or
this
so
this
could
be
prepared
for
you,
so
I
think
Rick
can
comment
if
you
need
any
other
questions
or
if
you
have
questions
of
myself,
we
can
do
as
many
answers
as
as
we
can
here.
Thank.
A
G
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
an
amazing,
in-depth
report.
This
is
really
a
very
happy
day
that
we're
you
know
finally
getting
someplace
and
we
really
really
appreciate
it
very,
very
extensive
report.
My
question
really
is
just
a
matter
of
edification
on
the
interiors.
The
talking
about
the
floors
are
the
wood.
Are
the
wood
floors
the
surface
of
the
wood
floors
in
the
interior?
I
Seem
to
be
intact
now
there
are
two
areas:
if
not
three
areas,
we
have
to
open
the
floor
to
crawl
in
and
act
gain
access,
so
we
would
again
use
that
material.
We
go
in
and
cut
that
material
out
and
then
put
that
material
back
in
again
same
material.
If
we
had
to
replace
a
board,
it
would
be
like
for
like
again
size
and
and
dimension
and
like
material
if
we
got
into
a
situation
which
in
every
place
it
because
we
have
to
gain
access
to
two
areas
and
Rick
can
point
out.
B
I
The
dining
room
we
have
to
gain
access
underneath
because
right,
we
just
can't
get
enough
room
in
there
to
work
and
get
these
piers
installed
by
crawling
through
the
main
crawl
hole.
So
there
would
be
some
material
and
restoration
that
would
go
on
there
for
the
floors,
but
they
do
appear
to
be
intact
and
and
they,
in
my
opinion,
don't
appear
to
be
yeah.
G
I
I
Our
assumptions
have
been
you
know.
If
we
can,
you
know
the
idea
is
if
we
can
maintain
that
material.
That's
on
the
outside
corner
of
the
skin,
which
is
the
board
which
is
the
which
are
the
boards,
the
battens
I
believe,
there's
just
I,
don't
believe,
honestly,
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
and
integrity
wise.
That
needs
to
be
salvaged
and
we
can
come
up
with
a
nice
baton,
same
dimension
and
it's
full
length
patent.
So
you
don't
have
these
gaps
right
and
you
wouldn't
have
those
situations
that
would
arise.
I
It
would
cause
more
problems
for
you
with
delaminating
or
coming
apart
or
allowing
moisture
to
penetrate
through
that.
The
other
thing
is
that
the
vapor
barrier
that
we
would
use
would
be.
You
know,
a
modernized,
vapor
barrier.
The
copper
flashing
would
be
a
soft
copper
flashing.
It
could
be
molded
to
them
to
the
rockwork
cuts
on
the
outside
and
allow
the
water
to
sheet
off
of
that
little
rock
wall.
I
A
M
I
We
could
do
that,
and
and
really
it's
gonna
get
really
down
to
the
roof
inspections
and
and
just
working
with
the
siding,
the
exterior
of
the
building
and
paints.
So
it's
surface
finishes
typically,
would
allow
you
to
maintain
that
building
maintain
the
integrity
of
that
building
once
it's
rehabilitated
so
yeah
there
we
could
put
something
together
for
you
and
at
least
recommendations
from
the
city
staff
of
how
they
could
maintain
it
or
how
they
should
maintain.
It
I
think.
I
We,
the
roofer,
we
know
the
roofer
that
did
the
installation
for
you
out
there
of
the
fibertite
roof
and
the
shingles
and
I
think
it'd
be
important
for
them
to
do
annual.
They
do
biannual
orb
annual
inspections
twice
a
year
or
three
times
you
can
do
as
many
as
you'd
like,
but
typically
once
that
fiber
types
up
and
the
shingles
are
on
it's
just
inspecting
the
flashings
and
counter
flashings
and
and
sealants
that
are
have
been
applied.
So
the
sighting
again,
it's
just
something
use
a
material
with
good
integrity.
I
The
deserts
gonna
still
burn
it
up.
I
mean
you
know
the
heat.
You
know
the
South
exposures
and
west
exposures
still
are
vicious
on
paint,
but
you
just
have
to
you
have
to
maintain
it
and
its
proper
maintenance.
It's
not
just
applying
another
coat
the
next
year
or
just
putting
another
coat
over
cracked
and
surfaces,
it's
prepping
and
and
reapplying.
So
it's
simple
I
think
it's
important,
but
the
materials
we
looked
at,
we're
all
top-of-the-line
materials
that
we
looked
at
for
the
surface
finishes
and.
M
N
Again,
I
I
want
to
commend
arg
for
doing
an
incredible
report,
especially
knowing
the
language
of
preservation
that
this,
in
fact,
is
a
restoration
and
the
recommendations
are
are
really
excellent
in
terms
of
how
to
approach
the
building
and
I
assume
that
you'll
be
following
through
with
a
construction
end
of
the
project.
The.
I
Methods
and
means
I
think
are
gonna,
be
what
Rick
and
I
have
discussed.
The
methods
and
means
are
somewhat
well.
We
kind
of
looked
at
how
we
were
going
to
do
this.
Originally
we
looked
at
replacing
all
the
siding
you
know
like
for
like
size
again
like
for
like
material
like
for
like
size,
but
then,
as
we
looked
at
it
and
said,
okay,
if
you
want
to
keep
the
integrity
of
what's
there,
let's
do
it.
I
Believe,
I
don't
believe
there
again
something
the
city
would
have
to
comment
on
I
think
we
we've
done
quite
a
few
historical
buildings
in
town.
We
understand
the
integrity
of
this
building.
We
understand
the
importance
of
this
building.
I
think
we
will
it's
its
methods
and
means
and
precautionary
measures
that
we
take
on
our
side
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
the
best
that
we
possibly
can
with
oversight
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
more
value
that
brings
to
you
but
I
think
our
understanding
is
again.
I
We
approach
this
building
to
you
know
to
keep
the
integrity
of
it
as
best
we
can
again
there's
going
to
be
compromises
when
we
open
up
those
walls
and
inside
those
four
rooms
that
we
talked
about,
which
is
the
dining
the
vestibule
of
the
main
room,
the
bathroom
and
and
open
up
open
up
those
walls.
We're
gonna
have
to
look
at
how
we
restore
that
and
put
that
back
into.
You
know
back
to
the
integrity
of
like
I
said
like
for,
like
materials
that
are
currently
and.
I
Mirador,
the
old
which
gallery
we've
done.
You
know
a
lot
of
restorations
single-family
home
restorations
as
well
the
historical
some
historical
homes
in
the
area
of
quite
a
few
historical
homes.
So
we
do
understand
it.
We
do
understand
the
passion
that
you
people
have
and
not
just
you,
but
the
community
I
mean
this
is
a
community
project
and
we've
always
looked
at
as
a
community
project.
That's
why
we
came
in
when
we
when
we
did
come
in
to
assist
this
was
four
years
ago
and
this
a
whole
different
plan.
It
was
not
an
Arg
report.
I
There
was
some
bids
on
the
table
that
city
had
solicited
for
repairing
windows,
doors,
repairing
siding,
repairing
a
roof
and
I
believe
a
few
other
ancillary
items
and
they
asked
if
if
there
was
a
way
we
could
help
I
engaged
Jim.
She
at
that
time
is
a
hey.
This
community
project
having
been
there
and
do
this
together
and
Jim
said:
hey
I'll
draw
a
plan
for
you.
You
guys
figure
out
what
you
want
to
do
and
let's,
let's
make
this
happen.
I
So
that's
how
it
all
began
and
now
we're
at
this
point-
and
you
know
the
numbers
have
ranged.
You
know
from
very
high
numbers
like
you've
seen
or-
and
you
could
look
at
in
this
report
to
a
more
palatable
number
I
think
for
the
city.
I
said
like
I
said
again:
the
commitment
still
stands
for
us
to
give
you
a
nice
landscape
plan
that
that
actually
creates
a
walkable
garden.
It
will
enhance
garden
that
well,
I
think
draw
people
to
it.
I
It's
around
the
building
with
something
that's
a
little
more
eye,
appealing
than
just
a
bunch
of
grass
and
growing
up
against
the
building
and
growing
up
against
the
other
building
and
mole
marks
and
water.
A
point
you
know,
shooting
on
the
walls
and
things
like
that:
I'm
just
conserving
water,
not
only
that,
but
we're
also
putting
it
in
a
palette.
It's
much
more
desert,
friendly
and
I.
N
Commend
the
approach,
and-
and
this
is
clearly
you
know
it's
very
rare-
to
have
a
restoration
project
in
the
city,
so
this
is
clearly
a
very
good
example
of
how
to
carry
through
a
restoration
project
with
the
principles
knowing
what
they're
dealing
with
and
how
how
to
approach
the
building.
So
I
commend
you
for
your
work.
Thank
you.
E
I
The
top
of
the
cap,
our
preference,
is
to
have
it
soft,
copper
and
cover
the
top
of
the
cap.
We
could
break
it
to
wear
it,
and
then
we
could
enhance
the
mud
cap
on
the
top
to
create
more
of
a
slope
and
just
do
a
slight
break.
But
you
know
we
looked
at
it
as
a
soft
copper
and
maybe,
if
from
an
aesthetic
standpoint
overall,
it
may
be
more
appealing
to
just
have
a
slight
break
increase
the
mud
cap
with
a
slope
on
the
mud
cap
and
let
the
water
she
Goblin.
E
I
Not
an
issue,
we
we
simply
if
it's
okay,
with
with
what
we're
talking
about
here,
we
would
enhance
that
mud
cap
increase
the
pitch
slightly
to
allow
for
water
to
sheet
flow
off
of
it
and
still
have
the
break
to
protect,
and
we
just
let
that
break
cap.
Let
that
metal
break
just
slightly
over
the
cap
over
the
new
mud
cap
and
then
water
would
flow
off
right
should
flow
off.
It
will.
I
D
A
You
just
mentioned
a
few
minutes
ago.
Some
of
the
projects
that
you've
been
involved
in
did
you
not
also
do
the
restoration
of
the
Burnham
artists
colony?
Yes,
well
known
today
as
the
colony
29?
Yes,
so
you
do
absolutely
have
expertise
in
this
area.
Yes,
we
talked
about
the
length
of
the
process
may
start
day.
I
think
the
house
is
closed
during
those
months
anyway,
so
it
won't
impact
the
operating
hours.
I.
Think
it's
closed
for
the
summer.
Okay,
good
and
you'd
was
just
talked
about
the
budget.
A
Have
you
shared
this
plan
with
the
Historical
Society,
those
folks
who
actually
live
and
work
in
the
house?
We.
I
I
We
had
built
homes
for
Steve,
so
we
became
intimately,
you
know
involved
with
Steve
and
we
that's
kind
of
a
little
bit
how
we
got
involved
in
this
too
cuz
when
they
had
the
budget
the
bids
he
asked
if
we
could
meet
with
him
and
review
those
bids
and
maybe
come
up
with
a
more
palatable
bid
and
that's
that's
how
we
got
engaged
so
Steve
was
pretty
much
aware:
Steve,
Nichols
and
Sally
his
wife
Sally
we're
pretty
much
aware
of
what
we
were
doing.
We
had
approached
a
couple
times
and
talked
about
plans.
I
Talks
about
talked
about
the
aesthetic
talked
about
what
we
were
going
to
do,
but
we
had
not.
We
have
not
share,
showed
the
new
Reza
plan,
the
re-engineering
plan,
nor
have
we
shared
the
philosophy
with
them
again
about
flipping
the
boards
and
using
as
much
as
we
could
again.
There
may
be
when
we
flipped
those
boards
over
may
have
more
dry.
Rot
may
be
more
problematic
to
use,
and
maybe
we
have
to
again
distressed
pieces
of
wood.
I
To
look
like
the
same
piece
of
wood:
we've
done
this
multiple
times,
where
we've
copied
pieces
of
wood
that
are
virtually
the
same
type
of
thing
and
we've
made
them
look
exactly
like.
What's
you
know,
the
adjacent
piece
of
wood
is
if
we
had
to
replace
it,
so
it
doesn't
stand
out
like
oh
there's,
a
new
board
and
all
these
other
ones
are.
I
Stuff
out
of
the
way
for
us,
but
they
were
there,
excited
about
it.
They
didn't
want
to
see
it
happen
and
there's
a
few
people
locals
that
have
hang
around
down
there
and
one
guy
came
up
to
us
one
time
and
said
you
know
how
long
it's
been
since
he
came
and
spoke
at
City
Council
and
said:
when
is
this
gonna
happen
so
I
know,
there's
excitement
I
know
once
it's
done,
you
know,
it'll,
be
a
it'll,
be
a
nice
feature
for
the
city.
So
we're
excited
about
being
part
of
that.
A
A
Discussion
board
I'd
like
to
before
he
before
I
asked
for
a
motion
I
feel
comfortable
that
this
board
is
going
to
approve
this
as
as
submitted
I'd
like
again,
because
it
says
such
a
community
effort,
and
so
many
community
members
are
involved
good
there
during
the
restoration
project.
Could
the
city
perhaps
put
up
some
a
sign
that
the
project
is,
is
under
it's
a
renovation?
A
K
There
was
exemplary
and
the
I
don't
have
to
tell
you
about
the
outcome,
because
it's
sitting
there
and
that
restoration
was
magnificent
of
the
many
people
that
I've
worked
with
in
my
own
career
and
restoration,
Dave's
right
up
there
at
the
top
and
what
I'm
most
astounding
was
able
to
bring
this
in
in
a
far
more
reasonable
budget.
The
reason
this
his
language
languished
is
simply
because
the
original
budgets
weren't
there
for
it.
He
wasn't
there
to
do
a
million-dollar.
K
Restoration
I
also
hated
the
original
restoration
because
it
was
going
to
do
more
damage
to
the
house
than
it
was,
but
you
know
than
it
was
to
fix
it,
and
so
we
would
be
fixing
a
lot
of
the
damage
that
would
be
making
just
to
try
to
bring
it
back
up
to
to
some
sort
of
standard.
So
my
goal
in
this
is
that
we
move
forward.
K
My
goal
is
that
we
go
ahead
and
start
in
May
I'd
like
to
have
it
brought
back
to
you
next
month
for
a
public
hearing
and
a
formal
action
by
you
and
then
I
want
to
take
it
straight
to
Council.
Currently,
I
think
we
budgeted
about
300
and
what
I
want
to
say
budget.
Do
we
squirrel
the
way
out
of
a
last
budget
around
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
this
project?
K
C
K
Absolutely
and
I'm
so
glad
you
reminded
me
of
that,
because
we
talked
about
that
a
while
ago,
and
it
was
something
that
I
wanted
to
do
early
on.
Not
only
can
we
do
that,
we
should
do
that.
Do
you
know
a
great
photograph
and
just
a
brief
explanation
that
the
house
is
being
restored
and
that
we
very
much
need
the
help,
and
what
we
can
do
is
for
people
who
want
to
just
sort
change
in
dollars
in
there.
K
A
Any
questions
gerrae
again,
thank
you
for
coming
this
morning
and
thank
you
for
spearheading
this.
We
are
at
a
dick
said
it
well.
This
is
a
very
happy
day
for
certainly
the
HSP
be
and
I
think
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs
and
I
truly
again.
I
just
want
to
repeat
how
much
I
appreciate
that
this
is
a
community
effort
that
Jim
was
involved
in
it
and
Dave's
involved
in
it
you're
involved
in
it,
and
so
thank
you
very
much.
You're.
K
K
H
F
A
All
right
well,
thank
you
very,
very
much
all
righty,
so
now
we're
moving
for
b-24s,
correct
you're,
moving
Ingleside
end
up
okay,
so
the
next
item
under
new
business
is
for
be
moved
to
for
a
Ingleside
in
investors,
SPE
LLC
for
approval
of
exterior
alterations
at
the
Carey
Burge
residence,
also
known
as
the
Ingleside
in
located
at
200
West
Ramon
Road.
This
is
case
number
three
point:
oh
six.
Eight
five
staff
report.
Please
Thank.
B
You
mr.
chair,
this
was
brought
to
the
board's
attention
actually
by
a
member
of
the
HS
PB,
who
observed
some
construction
work
going
on
at
the
site,
brought
as
the
staffs
attention
we
followed
up
with
the
building
department
and
found
that
there
he'd
gotten
a
little
bit
ahead
of
themself
in
terms
of
the
review
and
approval
processes
for
the
work.
B
The
background
and
the
Ingleside
doing
is
in
your
staff
report.
I'm
not
going
to
spend
any
time
on
that,
but
I
want
to
do
is
run
right
directly
to
page
six
of
your
report.
There's
two
components
to
this
project:
it's
primarily
an
accessibility,
repair
project
in
which
they've
had
to
introduce
some
wider
doors
and
some
of
the
buildings
and
provided
an
accessible
toilet
facility
for
the
restaurant.
That's
there!
B
Also
in
the
west
fountain
courtyard,
it
was
a
replacement
of
Italian
Cypress
with
skyrocket,
junipers
and
a
Gavi
Americana
with
a
ghave
Solana
that
are
considered
to
be
more
Hardy
I'm,
an
individual
from
both
the
the
architects
office,
which
is
the
consulting
architect
for
the
scope
of
the
work
on
the
building,
is
here
Lazzaro
Donal,
as
well
as
the
landscape
architect,
who
has
worked
with
the
Inga
sod
in
to
put
in
place
landscape
plants
that
are
reflective
of
the
period
of
significance
for
this
building.
That
concludes
my
staff
report.
B
B
Scape
changes
reduce
the
water
consumption
while
retaining
the
secluded
feeling
of
the
site
and
respecting
the
court,
our
courtyard
areas,
to
keep
them
reflective
of
their
period
of
significance
and,
as
noted
on
the
summary
of
your
project,
the
proposed
renovations,
as
shown,
do
meet
the
guidelines
for
granting
a
certificate
of
approval
by
the
HSP
BIA
and
are
consecutive
consistent
with
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
for
the
treatment
of
historic
structures.
That
concludes
my
staff
report.
We
are
recommending
approval
of
the
project
and
the
applicants.
Representatives
are
in
the
audience.
If
you
have
any
questions.
A
A
C
A
I
just
had
one
question:
I,
don't
think
this
falls
under
our
purview,
but
there
was
a
new
structure
added
to
the
pool
area.
We've.
B
Identified
that
with
the
owner
and
applicant
and
that's
going
to
need
to
be
permitted.
It
currently
is
not
part
of
any
of
the
scope
of
the
permits
that
the
building
department
has
on
file,
and
if
that
is
something
that
they
wish
to
move
forward
with
in
terms
of
legalizing
it
under
a
building
permit,
it
would
need
to
come
back
to
you
also.
C
B
When
one
of
the
board
members
first
brought
this
to
our
attention
in
a
staff
level,
we
reached
out
to
the
owners
representative
and
asked
them
to
clarify
what
the
scope
was.
At
that
time,
we
were
told
that
it
was
accessibility,
upgrades
for
a
few
doors
at
the
back
of
the
building
and
that
it
was
some
replacement
of
some
overgrown
hedges
and,
as
we
learned
when
we
were
on
the
site,
the
work
actually
is
a
little
bit
more
than
what
they
had
initially
characterized.
B
M
Yeah
good
morning,
Lance
O'donnell
ooh
to
architecture
yeah.
Thank
you
for
ya.
The
care
and
attention
to
this
project.
I
think
is
we.
You
know
each
one
of
you
see
these
projects
come
before
this
board
and
there
are
many
facets
of
deferred
maintenance
that,
as
you
get
into
it,
you
realize
that
if
there
is
a
rainstorm
or
if
there's
a
windstorm
or
if
there's
something
going
on,
we
need
to
address
this
thing
immediately.
M
So
getting
a
little
bit
ahead
of
ourselves
was
just
identifying
those
things
that
were
either
life
safety
issues
or
would
cause
more
damage.
Had
they
gone,
you
know
kind
of
the
traditional
route
of
you
know.
Let's
get
a
bunch
of
eyes
on
this,
so
while
we
are
here,
we
are
adhering
to
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
and
all
good
construction
for
durability.
M
A
M
Thankfully,
it
was
a
back
of
house
area
where
you
know
behind
the
restaurant,
behind
where
the
rubbish
collection
and
things
are
so
that
area
is
being
cleaned
up
and
it
just
kind
of
accelerated
a
couple
things
for
us
so
wall.
It
didn't
really
affect
anything
of
signor
historic
significance
it.
It
was
you
probably
in
the
best
area
that
it
could
have
been
in
so
yeah.
There's
really
no
concern
on
our
part
that
we
lost
anything
of
value.
M
A
A
N
Work
has
occurred,
we're
reviewing
this
after
the
fact,
but
the
submitter
does
show
existing
conditions
and
proposed
conditions,
but
we
and
there's
also
in
language
in
the
staff
report
that
talks
about
how
windows
and
doors
would
be
substantially
similar
to
that
which
exists,
ie,
the
glass
of
wood
frame,
doors
and
windows
and
and
basically
changing
out
some
of
that
to
to
meet
the
current
needs
and
accommodations.
However,
there
is
since
its
since
it's
already
done,
it
would
seem
like
there
should
be
pictures
or
examples
of
what
the
new
replacement
material
is.
N
There's
no
evidence
of
how
the
doors
or
the
windows
meet
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
would
say
that
the
you
know
you
should
not
copy
what
existing
conditions
are,
but
rather
show
subsets
in
a
substantially
similar
way,
a
new
door
or
a
new
window.
So
in
terms
of
historicity,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
will
be
original
material
or
what
is
new
material,
so
I'm
kind
of
concerned.
In
terms
of,
does
this
really
meet
the
standards
in
terms
of
rehabilitation.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
all
right.
Thank
you
board.
Next.
Item
on
our
agenda
is
indeed
or
a
which
is
now
for
B.
This
is
Justin
Kerr
and
Maury
skinful
owners
for
approval
of
a
renovation,
in
addition
to
a
single-family
residence
located
at
401,
West
marito
place
a
class-one
Historic
Site
case
three
point:
four:
zero:
zero
one
staff
report:
please
Thank.
B
You
mr.
chair,
as
noted
in
your
staff
report-
and
you
may
recall
this
matter
and
project
an
address-
was
before
you
back
in
January
for
a
certificate
of
approval
to
demolish
the
property
which
you
place
to
hold
and
processed
it
through
designation
for
class,
one
status
which
the
City
Council
granted
on
May
17th.
The
current
owner
is
a
new
owner
who
bought
the
property
from
the
previous
owner
and
has
submitted
now
the
project.
B
That's
before
you,
as
noted
in
the
summary,
it's
a
proposal
to
restore
the
exterior
of
the
original
portion
of
the
English
Tudor
Revival
cottage,
demolishing
existing
portions
of
the
non-contributing
additions
that
were
built
in
the
1980s
reconstructing
portions
of
an
existing
two-story
addition
on
the
rear
of
the
existing
cottage
in
a
contrasting
architectural
style
and
installing
new
landscaping,
swimming
pools,
pool
terrace
and
a
steel
shade
structure
behind
the
existing
cottage
I
want
to
just
summarize.
The
recommendation
here.
B
So
in
conclusion,
we
believe
that
the
proposed
renovation
that
is
being
proposed
here
enhances
the
existing
historic
resource
by
removing
the
non-contributing
portions
and
allowing
an
addition
that
brings
the
project
in
the
home
up
to
contemporary
living
standards.
The
modifications
to
restore
and
replace
our
restored
repair.
B
The
existing
Stork
structure
improve
its
overall
historic
integrity,
particularly
with
the
appearance
of
the
materials
in
the
scale
that
that
structure
originally
had,
and
the
proposed
renovations
do
meet
the
guidelines
for
granting
a
certificate
of
approval
by
the
SPB
and
are
deemed
consistent
with
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards
for
historic
structures.
Both
the
homeowner
and
the
consulting
architect
for
this
project
are
in
the
audience
and
are
available
to
either
make
a
presentation.
If
you
would
like
or
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have,
and
we're
available
to
answer
any
questions
as
well.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
H
Christie
has
a
veto.
You
know
what
I
don't
actually
know
that
the
breakdown
per
square
footage,
because
it's
more
of
like
an
overall
concept
of
being
similar
public
four
hundred.
Can
you
actually
have
like
broken
this
down?
A
million
times,
just
basically
were
were,
were
less
of
a
presence
and
more
about
the
yard
and
just
letting
the
tutor
kind
of
shine
in
the
front.
Okay,.
A
In
the
one
in
the
one
photograph
or
the
one,
drawing
that
I've
seen,
it
is
a
very
modern
structure
coming
off
the
second
floor
facing
sort
of
Southwest
uh-huh,
the
large
window.
So
this
is
a
very
contemporary
treatment.
M
Dance
first
I
just
have
a
statement.
This
is
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
I
think
it's
I
love
the
fact
that
it's
contemporary
with
the
old
but
the
materials
work
together
back
on
the
site.
So
from
the
front
there
were
no
garages
pulled
forward
on
the
property,
so
it
will
look
very
much
like
it
looks
now
and
all
this
stuff
is
in
the
back
and
it's
not
derivative
of
trying
to
be
a
faux
Tudor
burned
from
the
beginning.
E
A
A
E
Am
also
very
pleased,
so,
thank
you.
You
know
when
this
came
before
us
to
rescue
and
saved
save
it
was
so
the
attempt
was
to
you
know,
Elva
chable
and
it
had
to
be
torn
down.
Then
there
was
no
other
choice
as
another
choice.
Another
option.
You
proved
that
so
thank
you.
The
only
question
I
have
is
the
part
that's
being
torn
down.
That's
similar
to
the
existing
house,
who
confirmed
that
what's
being
torn
down
was
indeed
not
original.
E
H
The
original
garage
is
coming
away,
so
it's
not
that
the
entire
you
know
if
this
is
as
much
and
then
and
the
most
predominantly
striking
aspects
of
the
house
and
we're
focusing
on
and
restoring
those
there
are
so
many
additions
and
everything
it
kind
of
buried
some
of
the
original
stuff.
But
it
was
kind
of
interesting
I.
Do
think
that
part
they
incorporated
in
the
80s
and
turned
it
into
like
living
space.
H
But
there
was
a
garage
original
to
the
house
on
the
west
side,
sort
of
setback
and
and
there's
no
like
photo
documentation,
but
you
can
tell
by
the
architecture
the
way
it
is
now
that
that
was
true.
So,
basically
that
got
in
in
case
they
put
a
second
floor
on
it.
They
put
a
bay
window
on
it
and
they
did
a
couple
other
things
to
it.
So
it
just
seemed
more
prudent
to
remove
that
section.
Put
a
very
simple
carport
right
there
and
highlight
the
majority
of
the
Tudor.
So.
H
J
This
was
original
in
the
context
of
it
was
a
very
small
garage
and
very
small
Street
and
then
was
kind
of
updated
and
out
of
the
bay
window
and
was
turned
into
an
interior
living
room
space
which,
at
this
point
kind
of
was
lost
amongst
all
of
the
other
remodels,
and
so
it
was
impractical
in
terms
of
contemporary
living.
To
have
that
you
came
and
fit
a
car
inside
of
that
space.
I
remember.
E
J
E
J
J
E
On
the
back
side,
it's
on
the
south
side
of
the
house
so
re
by
and
that's
all
eighties
addition.
You
don't
have
a
problem
with
taking
that
up
that
up
or
drawing
where
you're
removing
part
of
the
original
structure.
You're
changing
the
front
facade
of
the
building.
That's
always
been
part
of
the
front
facade
of
the
building,
and
so
that
would
be
my
objection
to
removing
that
I
myself,
I,
don't
know
that
I
necessarily
want
to
see.
E
B
Just
want
to
call
your
attention
in
the
hrg
report
and
I
think
in
one
of
the
slides
I
have
here,
there's
two
things
that
you
can
see.
First
of
all,
note
the
angle
of
the
roof
in
this
particular
picture
from
1960,
the
original
home
did
have
a
shed
roof
that
came
off
from
the
main
gable
and
that
is
part
of
what's
being
proposed
to
be
removed.
But
again
it's
on
the
back
side
of
the
house,
but
the
second
thing
I
would
call
your
attention
to
is
this
drawing?
B
And
it's
particularly
notable
that
if
you,
if
you
compare
the
way,
these
two
images
are
laid
side
by
side,
what
we
believe
is
the
original
garage
which
you
see
in
that
lower
left
corner
of
the
left-most
slide
is
actually
behind
this
appendage.
That
has
the
bay
windows
in
the
front,
so
I'm
going
to
step
up
to
the
slide
a
minute
and
explain
what
I'm
trying
to
show
you.
But
my
point
is
that
that
portion,
which
they're
proposing
to
remove,
is
not
part
of
the
original
structure.
B
So
when
you
look
at
this
area
here
and
you
consider
where
this
dimension
is
here
relative
to
here-
you
can
see
that
the
original
front
of
whatever
this
structure
was,
we
believed
it
to
be
a
garage
was
actually
in
here
and
so
in
discussions
with
Christine
we've
we've
talked
about
what
this
is
this.
We
do
not
believe
as
part
of
the
original
1928
structure,
but
rather
this
is
some
of
the
remodeling
that
was
done
in
the
1980s
and
stuck
on
the
front
of
what
was
the
original
garage
back
here.
A
better
answer.
E
A
G
J
J
J
So
I
think
that
we
would
try
and
find
the
right
way
to
acknowledge
it
and
then
make
that
more
aesthetically
pleasing,
but
we
we
honor
that
and
you
know,
would
want
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
to
figure
out
what
to
do.
If
it
is
on
our
property
or
not.
When
we
purchased
it,
we
were
told
it
was
not
on
our
property
really.
J
K
G
What
you're
doing
with
it
after
reviewing
going
into
the
home
when
we
did
our
site
visit
I've
been
toying
around
in
my
mind,
but
I
deal
with
it.
That's
very
interesting!
You
did
relocate
the
front
door
right.
I
didn't
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
you
makes
more
sense
with
what
you're
doing
as
far
as
the
overall
floor
plan.
I
N
Vincent
I
also
would
1a
commend
you,
because
I
I
hope
that
you
went
into
the
project,
knowing
that
this
was
an
assert
that
was
threatened
and
that
the
inter
disclosure
and
the
purchase
and
sale
that
it
was
your
intent
to
obviously
save
the
structure
on
the
site,
and
so
what's
resulting
is,
is
a
good
rehabilitation
of
a
rare
building
in
Palm
Springs,
a
Tudor
Revival.
Building
that
the
case
report
says
may
be
the
only
one
here,
so
it
reaches
a
level
of
exceptional
significance
in
terms
of
Palm,
Springs
and
I
command.
N
A
B
A
B
Keep
in
mind
that
the
mills
act,
the
criteria
for
being
eligible
for
a
Mills
act
is
that
the
home
or
the
site
is,
is
identified
and
listed
on
a
local
register
of
historic
resources,
which
it
is
so
over
time.
Modifications
to
that
historic
resource
can
occur
without
adversely
affecting
the
mills
act
contract
unless
the
scope
of
the
work
begins
to
materially
impair.
B
That's
the
term
out
of
sequa
to
materially
impair
the
historic
research
such
that
it
no
longer
conveys
its
historic
significance
and
by
going
through
the
process
that
you
do
here
today
with
each
time
that
a
class
one
site
is
modified
you're
assuring
that
the
modifications
that
are
being
done
are
not
damaging
that
historic
resource.
So
the
very
process
that
you're
going
through
at
this
moment
is
part
of
what
assures
that
the
integrity
of
the
resource
is
not
compromised.
A
J
You
okay
I,
just
like
that.
One
thing:
I'd,
like
you,
larly
thank
Ken
for
his
guidance
through
the
process
we
purchased
it
six
months
ago,
knowing
that
we
wanted
to
honor
the
historic
integrity
of
the
building
and
Ken
has
been
a
fantastic
resource
in
guiding
us
through
that
we
were
originally
hoping
to
present
in
November,
but
took
the
extra
months
to
make
sure
everything
was
ticked
inside,
and
so
we
appreciate
it.
We
look
forward
to
having
you
all
over.
N
You
you
have
a
San
Francisco
architect.
Are
you
originally
from
San
Francisco
I'm.
J
Originally
my
roots
as
it's
relevant
to
this
conversation
I'm
originally
from
Newport
Beach
and
have
come
to
Palm
Springs
every
year,
since
my
sixth
birthday
I
spent
my
honeymoon
here
and
my
wife
and
I
spent
the
last
ten
years
coming
six
to
ten
times
a
year
yeah
we
have
lived
in
San
Francisco
for
the
last
20
years.
We've
actually
worked
on
some
historic
projects
with
our
architect
Christie
in
San
Francisco.
H
Else,
please,
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
required
and
it's
not
shown
on
the
plans,
but
we're
pretty
excited
that
switching
the
door,
whatever
almost
like,
leaves
that
that
that
original
block
of
the
house,
the
way
it
is
like
so
that
front
room
can
can
retain
what
it
is.
That's
a
it
will
have
all
the
original
windows,
the
original
fireplace
the
original
beams.
You
know,
so
it's
it's
not
modern
at
all.
So
really
there
is
more
of
a
contrast,
even
than
you
realize,
and
upstairs
the
east
side.
H
A
And
and
and
your
cat
is
the
second-
we
have
our
first
and
a
second
any
further
discussion
on
this
I,
just
like
also
to
commend
staff
and
the
applicant
and
the
architect,
I
think
you
can
see
from
the
approval
of
the
board
that
we're
very
pleased
with
this
all
in
favor
aye
aye.
Anyone
opposed
congratulations
and
thank
you.
Thank.
B
M
As
I
was
meeting,
people
I
was
talking
about
historic
preservation
actually,
and
there
are
going
to
be
two
major
houses
that
are
going
to
apply
for
class
one
just
our
basic
conversation
and
understanding
and
I
think
that
with
this
project,
as
well
as
taking
a
very
grassroots
approach
to
this,
we've
got
a
chance
to
really
save
some
of
the
great
properties
of
whole
Las.
Palmas
I'm
really
happy
to
have
this
one
done
today.
Well,.
A
A
Had
those
folks
been
aware
that
maybe
they
didn't
have
to
do
as
much
of
the
demolition
on
that
property
as
they
did,
that
they
could
have
maintained
the
home
and
still
incorporated
modern
and
contemporary
additions
and
changes
to
it.
So,
yes,
I
hope
that
this
does
set
an
example.
I
hope
that
this
helps
further
educate,
certainly
your
neighborhood
and
other
homes
in
your
neighborhood,
because
it
is
a
it's
a
it's
a
shame
about
what
we
saw
earlier
today,
but
unfortunately,
not
much.
We
can
do
on
that.
Dick.
G
Yes,
I,
just
like
to
I,
was
going
to
wait
til
member
comments
but
board
comments,
but
I
was
sitting
here
thinking.
This
is
a
great
opportunity.
I
know
if
we
could
get
Amy
involved,
but
you
know
things
that
hike
happened
today
when
you
think
about
the
White
House
and
you
think
about
as
examples
to
get
out
into
the
community.
G
There
just
has
to
be
a
way
of
taking
this
opportunity
to
really
highlight
you
know
we
no
longer
that
I
since
skipper's
gone.
We
don't
quite
have
that
conduit
that
we
once
had
to
the
paper
as
an
example,
but
maybe
through
Amy
plate
still
may
be
there.
I
just
think
we
need
to
put
this
is
an
opportunity
to
get
some
really
PR
in
this
town
and
and
maybe
get
one
PS.
G
We
certainly
can
get
something
to
Denise,
but
I
just
like
for
us
to
think
about
that
a
little
bit,
because
it's
these
benchmarks
that
will
make
a
difference
and
particularly
getting
it
out
into
the
real
estate
community
as
well,
but
in
a
nice
way.
You
know
and
really
taking
advantage
of
the
opportunity
so
I'd
like
for
us
to
kick
that
around
a
little
bit
and
see
if
we
could
come
up
with
some
brainstorming
ideas
on
really
capitalizing
on
this.
Oh.
E
Can
I
just
jump
in
there?
It's
more
of
a
comment
sparked,
but
so
I
can't
agree
more
and
I
think
it's
really.
You
know
sad
and
perhaps
and
an
opportunity
that
the
viola
discussion
came
up
at
the
same
time.
This
came
up.
I
went
through
the
viola
property
when
it
was
on
the
market
and
and
I
brought
it
up,
and
it
was
stunning
and
I
have
to
say.
E
In
my
humble
opinion,
the
part
that
they
tore
down
was
the
nicest
part
of
the
house
and
it's
and
the
part
that
they
left
why
they
left
what
they
left
and
tore
down
what
they
tore
down.
I
have
no
clue,
but
the
sad
thing
is
the
similarity
between
these
two
structures
is
astounding.
You
had
a
relatively
sort
of
what
looked
to
be
an
ugly
addition
on
the
back,
that's
apparently
still
standing
and
this
study
original
main
entry
living
room
portion
and
the
people
who
saved
their
home
and
brought
it
before
us.
E
The
correct
way
is
Gary,
asked
and
can
answer
it
are
potentially
going
to
be
rewarded
or
could
possibly
be
rewarded
by
substantial
tax
savings
on
the
entire
renovated
property.
That's
going
to
be
worth
a
lot
of
money
and
save
them
thousands
of
dollars
annually
in
taxes
had
the
other
party,
Onvia
Lola
done
the
exact
same
thing.
A
the
city
would
still
be
having
a
wonderful
resource,
but
those
current
property
owners
that
the
store
destroyed.
E
This
existing
house
could
also
have
repped
those
rewards,
whatever
that
word
is
reaped
of
Mills
act,
and
but
when
you,
when
you
look
at
the
two
properties,
it's
astounding
how
similar
they
were
at
one
point,
and
it
just
said
what
what
happened
and
I'm
not
sure
you
know
what
can
be
done
in
the
future.
With
respect
to
you
know,
permitting
and
trying
to
avoid
what
happened.
C
A
And
on
that
note,
I
just
actually
wrote
myself
a
note
here
and
so
I
would
encourage
you.
Perhaps
a
letter
to
the
editor
of
the
Desert
Sun.
Just
recapping
is
what
you
just
said
and
then
making
a
comment
that
certainly
since
skipped
askance
departure
from
the
Desert
Sun.
There
has
been
no
reporting
in
this
room
of
any
HSB
activity.
I
think
that's.
A
G
G
Here's
a
great
opportunity
that
maybe
we
could
introduce
some
sort
of
you
know
similar
kind
of
concept,
but
showing
examples.
I
think
it's
all
about
showing
examples.
That's
what's
important
and
and
it's
nothing
like
the
visual
and
the
write.
The
text
is
great,
but
the
visuals
are
really
do
make
an
impact
the
before
and
the
after,
and
maybe
that's
what
we
could
do.
G
A
G
Vincent
has
been
coordinating
this
with
the
Oh
H
piece
and
with
our
staff
here,
as
the
liaison
will
be
discussing
already
have
been
discussing
the
topics
that
will
be
included
for
that
program
and
also
I,
know
Vincent
reached
out
to
Todd
Hayes
on
just
this
part
of
the
event,
but
just
as
a
side
note,
that
Vincent
will
be
the
liaison
to
our
subcommittees
that
we
don't
violate
the
Brown
Act.
Oh.
G
G
Way
this
that
we
see
this
working
is
that
there
would
be
a
link
on
the
Palm,
Springs
registration
event,
registration
site
or
all
interested
attendees
who
might
like
to
go
to
the
HP,
but
they
would
be
a
link
that
would
go
to
their
site,
so
they
handle
their
at
the
registration.
I
was
able
to
speak
with
Dave
just
a
few
minutes
yesterday
about
the
website
and
the
registration.
G
If
we
can
do
the
symposium
people
signed
up
with
a
symposium
on
Sunday
the
tour,
the
selection,
tour
selection
and
the
after
event,
and
then
there
just
be
a
link
after
that.
That
would
they
would
like
to
go
to
the
Saturday
event,
because
it's
really
more
about
more
serious
preservation,
oriented
folks
and
what
we
draw
in
the
larger
community
of
the
residents.
So
it's
not
going
to
I
mean
it's
so
specific
and
it's
much
more
in
depth
than
what
are
some,
that
the
bulk
of
probably
of
our
audience
really
cares
about.
A
M
M
M
With
the
installation
of
this
new
gate
operator,
you
will
see
a
gooseneck
keypad
will
have
buttons
they'll,
be
some
actor
loops
on
the
bottom,
both
in
the
ingress
and
the
egress
side
of
the
gate.
This
all
together
is
going
to
alleviate
the
need
of
fire
crew
getting
out
of
the
rig
backing
up
traffic
on
Indian,
but
we
would
like
to
do
in
addition
to
that
is
deal
with
an
issue
that
we've
had
at
the
site.
Transit
issue
homeless
are
hopping
over
the
the
gate.
M
A
Frank
Franco
there
is
some
visible
damage
to
the
front
of
the
building
to
the
right
side.
It
just
looks
like
somebody
backed
into
it
and
broke
some
block.
Is
that
being
addressed
at
any
time?
Not
with
this
project?
I
wasn't.
A
F
Chair
members
of
the
board,
I
had
hoped
to
be
further
along
in
this
project
and
we
are,
but
unfortunately
we
just
got
the
proposal
back
from
Steve
Kalan
yesterday
on
doing
the
historic
study
of
the
landscape
materials
there
at
the
school,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
sign
a
contract
with
him.
Have
him
prepare
his
report
and
then
we'll
forward
that
to
the
landscape
architect
to
assist
down
in
doing
the
master
or
the
school?
F
One
of
the
other
things
that
you
had
requested
that
we
do
last
month
was
forward
this
to
the
their
comments
and
so
I
provided
the
draft
minutes.
There
I'll
just
go
over
some
of
their
recommendations
very
quickly
in
terms
of
the
list
of
plant
materials,
they
thought
the
plant
materials
were
generally
appropriate
for
the
site,
with
the
exception
of
the
hibiscus,
they
felt
that
that
was
inappropriate
for
the
site.
F
They
also
recommended
adding
verbena,
which
has
been
there
historically,
according
to
one
of
the
members
and
maple
plum
to
the
list
of
plant
materials,
and
then
again
mr.
kalin
study
will
show
if
there's
anything
else
be
considered
as
part
of
that,
they
also
recommended
focusing
the
city's
and
media
budget
on
one
specific
area.
F
They
had
a
concern
with
the
materials
that
were
proposed
or
had
been
installed
on
Palm
Canyon,
just
because
of
people
getting
in
and
out
of
cars
there
adjacent
to
the
curb.
There
was
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
through
those
buffer
areas,
and
so
they
recommended
something
more
durable,
either
pavers
or
artificial
turf,
and
so
for
that
I
meant
on,
even
though
you
didn't
ask
them
to
do
this,
they
did
have
a
comment
about
the
DG
materials
the
decomposed
granite.
F
They
also
felt
that
the
red
was
a
little
bit
too
much
shall
we
say
and
wanted
something
that
was
more
neutral
in
its
color
and
appearance
and
then,
finally,
because
we
made
the
mistake
of
taking
the
landscape
to
them
now
they
also
want
to
see
the
final
master
plan.
So
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
wrong
with
that.
Their
review
is
not
required,
but
it
might
be
helpful
to
you
all
when
we
bring
the
master
plan
back.
F
A
E
F
E
A
B
A
A
F
Is
still
in
its
draft
form,
there
was
another
component
that
I
had
been
requested
to
add,
and
that
was
specific
to
the
desert.
Highlands
gateway,
neighborhood
I
felt
that
we
probably
should
have
included
that
earlier
and
didn't
so
I
had
hrg
do
an
addendum
to
that.
I
need
to
bring
that
element
back
to
you
all
to
see
that
before
we
take
the
entire
thing
to
City
Council.
So
that's
really
the
only
thing
that
stands
out
from
taking
it
forward
to
City
Council
for
their
approval.
Okay,.
A
A
I
think
that
we
want
to
do
something
we
want
to
do
something
to
have
our
city
have
a
little
more
teeth
in
somebody
coming
to
the
building
department
and
pulling
out
remodeling
permit
and
submitting
a
plan,
and
somebody
in
the
planning
of
not
planning
departments
are
in
the
building
department.
Looking
at
the
extent
of
this
remodeling
knowing
the
year
of
the
property,
knowing
that
it's
on
the
historic
resources
survey,
it
doesn't
now
but
I
think
what
we're
looking
for
is
a
trigger
something
that
would
trigger
the
building
department
to
say
just
a
second.
A
F
The
answer
is,
you
already
have
a
historic
preservation
ordinance
in
place.
The
best
way
to
guide
remodeling
of
historic
properties
is
to
designate
them
historic.
To
begin
with,
if
there
are
properties
that
you
think
are
significant
that
aren't
designated,
we
have
money
every
year
to
do
historic
resource
reports
and
to
take
them
through
the
process.
So
we
need
to
identify
which
ones
and
put
them
on
your
work
plan
and
do
that.
F
First,
I
cannot
tell
you
how
important
it
is
designate
the
property
first
so
that
when
there
are
any
changes
it
automatically
comes
to
HSP
B.
That
is
the
best
way
and
I'm
going
to
muddle
a
sports
metaphor.
The
best
defense
is
a
good
offense
and
your
historic
preservation
ordinance
is
your
best
offense
of
all.
N
My
question
would
be
the
proposed
citywide
survey.
Is
there
anything
in
the
databases
of
the
city,
in
particular
the
building
department?
That
shows
that
each
and
every
building
in
the
surveys
are
potential
historic
resources,
so
that
I
mean
I
know
you
can't
officially
put
that
until
the
City
Council
adopts
it
with
that
on
the
building
department,
side
and
citywide,
the
building
department
needs
to
know
what
our
potential
has
soared.
Resources
is
there.
Is
there
any
record
a
ssin
in
your
databases
that
shows
that
there
are
potential
resources
out
there
that
have
not
yet
been
adopted.
B
So
we
do
have
the
2004
historic
resource
survey
properties.
Red-Tagged
I
can
confirm
that
they
were
migrated
over
to
blueprints
I,
believe
they
were
about
five
years
ago.
Once
the
new
survey
is
adopted
by
City
Council.
We
can
then
begin
to
migrate
that
stuff
in
and
put
tags
into
their
system
as
well.
B
B
As
soon
as
we
can
get
this
survey
adopted
by
City
Council,
we
can
get
all
these
new
projects
dropped
into
it.
They
have
the
same
access
to
that
database.
You
do.
The
issue
is
one
of
when
a
building
permit
application
comes
in.
How
do
we
make
that
automatically
come
up
and
that's
something
I
think
we're.
N
M
Could
make
one
comment?
This
comes
back
to
something
that
we
go
over
and
over
again
see
things
when
there's
request
for
a
demolition
permit.
In
this
case
there
was
not
a
demolition
permit,
and
so
and
then
we
get
back
to
the
other
point
of
if
demolition
permit
comes
in,
our
only
weapon
is
to
make
it
a
class
one,
and
so
some.
H
H
M
H
M
K
M
You
know,
as
far
as
realtors
are
concerned
area
I
thought.
You
know
you
confident
that
the
realtor
that
sold
this
house
on
the
yellow
'la
was
historian
and
talked
to
the
people
and
so
that
they
were
sort
of
on
board
with
it,
and
so
it's
very
surprising
that
this
happens
now
and
I.
Don't
know
how
else
I
walked
by
that
house.
All
the
time
and
I
saw
this
being
torn
down,
but
I
just
thought
there
were
permits.
M
Whatever
you
know,
there
was
no
nothing
posted,
no
way
to
know
no
contractors,
phone
numbers
or
anything
posted
on
the
site.
Do
you
even
check?
And
so
one
morning
the
house
was
there.
The
next
morning
the
main
house
was
gone
and
I
would
have
had
no
trouble,
calling
the
contractor
to
find
out
what
was
going
on
so
again,
a
grassroots
kind
of
thing
and
I
don't
have
the
solution
to
the
problem.
That's
my
frustration
and
all
of
our
frustration
I'm
only
bringing
out
in
this
one
specific
example.
We
might
have
been
able
to
do
something.
A
Here's
a
here's,
a
idea
in
reviewing
our
minutes
or
our
2018
work
plan.
We
did
identify
the
Tennis
Club
neighborhood
historic
district,
along
with
the
air
V
rock
houses
lost
homes,
liquor
store
and
the
606
oleander
building.
I.
Think
what
we're
aware
of
today
is
that,
in
my
view,
number
two
number
three
and
number
four
on
here.
There
is
no
threat
to
any
of
those
particular
properties,
but
we
are
seeing
an
ongoing
threat
in
one
of
our
high-priced
highly
regarded
and
respected
residential
neighborhoods,
the
Las
Palmas
neighborhood.
A
F
Maybe
mr.
chair,
what
we
might
do
is
just
an
informational
item
on
your
February
agenda
about
the
process
for
designating
historic
districts.
I,
don't
know
that
we've
done
that
recently
and
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
to
go
through
the
steps
that
are
necessary
for
that,
and
so
that
might
be
a
good
informational
item
for
your
February
agenda.
A
But
we've
already
enacted
the
Tennis
Club
that
that
project
yeah,
you
know
I
just
like
some
feedback
from
the
board,
whether
that's
something
that
I
think
we
do
need
a
little
bit.
Refresher
I
certainly
do
on
historic
districts
and
in
the
process
and
in
what
means
in
a
historic
district.
But
to
me
it
sounds
like
this
might
be
a
way
to
protect
some
of
those
homes,
because-
and
certainly
you
know
the
neighborhood
better
than
most.
We
know
that
there
are
other
similar
homes
to
the
viola
house
in
there.
A
A
G
B
G
B
We've
done
at
a
staff
level
when
we've
had
applications
coming
in
in
the
last
year
or
two,
since
this
demolition
definition
has
been
put
into
the
Historic
Preservation
ordinance
when
an
application
comes
into
the
building
Bartman,
they
often
get
brought
over
to
the
planning
department
for
what
is
called
okay
to
submit.
In
other
words,
if
there's
not
something,
it's
not
a
hillside,
it's
not
a
major
thoroughfare.
It's
a
check.
B
Some
of
these
that
have
come
in
that
have
been
appearing
to
be
full
demos.
We
have
basically
said
you
know.
The
purpose
of
this
is
not
the
same
thing
as
what
you
would
see
when
you're
looking
at
the
identification
of
a
renovation
for
what
part
of
the
building
code
gets
applied.
The
purpose
of
this
identification
of
demo
is
that
we're
not
losing
a
historic
resource,
that's
different,
and
it's
more
important
because
it
says
you
know,
there's
something
about
this
property
that
because
it
was
built
prior
to
1969.
B
We
take
a
second
look
at
it
right,
the
when
we
get
those
at
the
staff
level
at
the
counter,
and
we
see
that
this
is
looking
more
like
any
removal
down
to
one
or
two
walls.
We
tell
them.
This
is
not
renovation.
We
consider
this
demolition
and
you'd
have
to
review
it
and
process
it
that
way.
So
when
they
come
in
to
us
that
way,
we're
able
to
inform
the
applicant
it's
just
that
they
don't
always
come
in
that
way.
For
us.
B
B
M
But
if
you
would
look
at
this
specific
example,
if
I
were
looking
at
this
on
paper,
not
knowing
the
house
I
would
have
said
this
as
a
renovation,
it's
an
eight
shaped
house,
they
kept
two
wings
and
the
fireplace
they
basically
tore
down
the
center
of
the
house.
You
didn't
know
what
this
looked
like
and
the
history
of
it
would
have
approved
it
too,
as
a
renovation
on
paper,
but.
B
He's
he's
correct
in
the
way
he's
characterizing
this
he's
correct.
Had
this
one
actually
come
through
with
what
it
is,
it
probably
would
have
allowed
to
go
through
because
it's
as
he
says
you
know
there,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
the
houses
being
retained.
Sort
of
the
person
might
not
have
used
the
judgment
to
say
it's
too
much.
F
N
Just
one
question:
one
would
assume
that
demolition
has
occurred,
that
an
applicant
would
have
to
submit
a
building
permit
for
a
new
construction
on
the
same
site.
So
has
that
in
fact
occurred
and
is
mean
you
don't
demolish
a
site
with
not
anticipating
a
new
addition
or
a
new
construction
on
the
same
site?
Well,.
B
N
E
F
A
Now,
folks,
so
are
there
any
other
board
member
comments?
Okay,.
G
Really
they
really
do
care
I,
think
in
their
they're
excited
about
having
that
store,
and
so
they've
come
back
to
me
and
said:
okay,
we
wonder
we're
gonna
redo
our
brochure
they
have,
but
we
would
what
what
your
input
as
to
the
Corrections
of
the
brochure
visions
so
is
the
best
way
for
me
to
approach
this
I've
already
shared
with
them
your
comments
and
then
have
them.
Take
that
and
put
that
into
language
and
come
back
and
ask
you
to
review
it
again.
G
G
It's
very
positive
that
we
have
these
kind
of
folks
in
the
community
that
really
do
care
and
are
willing
to
spend
the
money.
Hey
they
basically
just
leased
that
store
they
don't
even
own
it.
So
I
think
it's
a
and
they've
been
dying
to
do
something
yet,
as
you
know,
they've
offered
doing
after
events
and
anything
that
we
want
people
to
showcase
and
show
it
off.
Oh
okay,
so
I.
B
G
G
F
F
G
Disco
that'll
be
coming
up
this
month,
this
month,
okay
site
visits
right,
okay,
same
with
Oasis
hotel
and
then
on
the
status
of
the
amendment
to
the
city
that
referenced
the
demo
to
include
financing.
Can
you
just
tell
me
again
I'm
sorry
to
keep
asking
you
this,
but
I
I
have
kind
of
lost
track
of
where
we
are
with
it.
Yeah.
F
You
will
recall
that
we
did
the
resolution
last
month
that
City
Council
had
requested.
So
that's
been
done.
Staff
has
been
authorized
to
go
ahead
and
proceed.
Working
on
at
the
Planning.
Commission
is
also
interested
in
the
topic,
so
we
might
have
a
joint
subcommittee
of
HS,
PB
and
Planning
Commission
working
on
this,
and
that
will
be
when
do.
G
G
G
A
A
D
D
D
You
know
the
owners
are
big.
Lola
made
it
very
clear
what
the
health
worth
they
said,
what
you
would
build.
They
said
it
was
drunk
with
a
club.
They
said
it
was
in
the
original
family.
They
have
the
original
blueprint
which
he
brought
with
him.
Today,
though,
the
food
could
have
had
those
that
we
all
sure
knew
about
them.
D
This
was
probably-
and
some
people
won't
agree
with
me,
what
I'm
the
most
significant
house
in
Las
Palmas.
It
was
completely
untouched
completely
untouched.
All
original,
well
I
just
think
there
needs
to
be
a
way.
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
can
form
a
subcommittee
with
members
of
the
public
or
if
you
can
do
a
subcommittee
on
your
own
with
the
council
or
the
planning
department,
but
there
needs
to
be
some
way
of
creating
something
new,
a
new
document,
a
new
understanding
prevented
from
happening
again
great.
A
A
I
had
one
board
comment:
it's
not
a
historic
property,
but
it
is
a
little
yogurt
shop
in
the
center
of
downtown
Palm
Springs.
It's
a
foodie,
fruity
I
think
it's
called
a
very
successful
business.
I
go
there
myself
quite
often,
but
they
have
added
some
lights
to
the
windows
that
are
flashing
and
racing
and
and
doing
all
kinds
of
really
distractive
things.
A
B
We
had
a
similar
situation
like
that,
with
some
lights
that
were
installed
on
one
of
the
downtown
businesses
on
the
second
store,
a
pizza
place,
and
that
did
go
through
his
code
enforcement.
We
were
with
the
restaurant
owner
and
they
did
remove
them.
So
it's
a
matter
of
submitting
it
to
code
enforcement.
A
E
B
Only
have
mentioned
that
I
know
that
there's
been
an
interest
in
the
progress
we're
making
on
historic
markers
and
there's
one
ready
for
us
to
pick
up
so
I'll
be
picking
that
up
later
today
and
there
are
others
that
I
have
that.
I'm
waiting
on
proposals
facilities
picked
up,
tahquitz,
Plaza
Robinson's
and
the
Shell
gas
station
late
last
month.
So
those
will
be
going
in
in
the
next
few
weeks.
I
believe
so
we're
making
progress
and
Ken.
B
Waiting
for
them
to
tell
me
once
they've
purchased,
their
Rock
I
got
actually
had
a
conversation
with
the
owner
and
a
netcat
correct,
and
he
worked
with.
He
says
yes
I.
This
is
what
we
wanted.
I
said
this
is
the
size
of
the
marker.
You
tell
me
when
the
rocks
in
place
we'll
get
facilities
over
to
install
it.
So
that's
what
we're
waiting
on
is
we're
waiting
on
a
rock.
A
Convinced
Metcalf,
he
is
in
the
process
of
selling
the
home
and
he
is
committed
to
having
this
rock
and
this
plaque
installed
prior
to
the
new
owner,
who
is
also
a
huge
fan
at
the
house,
so
I
can
prompt
him
again.
I
thought
on
January
6
was
the
date
that
I
had
remembered.
He
was
having
a
rock
dropped
on
a
boulder
right
right.
Well,
bull,
exactly
dropped
on
the
property.
G
B
G
F
H
A
F
A
F
Have
one
item
and
I
hate
to
keep
on
bringing
this
up
code
enforcement?
Please
please,
please!
If
you
see
something
happening,
call
code
enforcement
immediately
with
Viola
if
they
don't
have
a
building
permit
and
someone
suspects
that
work
is
going
on.
We
can
get
in
there
more
quickly
if
you
call
code
enforcement
right
away
with.