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A
B
A
D
D
I'm
sorry,
the
College
of
the
desert,
Palm
Springs,
campus
and
they're,
going
to
be
doing
some
really
interesting
things
with
that
campus
as
they
get
going
in
the
design,
etc,
and
so
I'll
be
continuing
to
interact
with
them
along
the
way.
So
I'll
be
reporting
out
on
kind
of.
What's
going
on
on
that
front,
the
we're
in
the
process
of
developing
budgets
and
priorities
for
the
next
year
so
I'll
be
in
touch
with
you
guys
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
D
D
We
did
receive
today
the
Eevee
additional
Eevee
charger
contract,
which
I'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
later,
but
we
didn't
receive
the
new
new
funding
for
that
today,
and
there
is
just
so
you're
aware
on
agenda
item
tomorrow
night
on
the
council's
agenda
to
give
an
update
on
the
community
desert
community
energy
project.
It's
the
very
last
item
on
the
agenda.
So
so
that's
all
in
terms
of
announcements
for
now
thank.
A
Reports,
I
presume,
and
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
then,
is
public
comments.
This
time
is
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
sustainability
Commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission,
the
Commission
values,
your
comments,
but
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act
cannot
take
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
are
assigned
for
each
speaker
come
forward.
Please
state
your
name.
E
We
were
looking
at
decades
sometimes
to
get
it
back
to
that
place
again.
I
just
reason:
Oh
increased
quality
of
life,
they
make
neighborhoods
more
beautiful.
They
provide
shade,
improve
air
quality.
They
provide
food
and
healthy
and
mature
trees
at
homes
and
in
neighborhoods,
increased
property
values
which
can
be
important
they
and
I.
Think
for
me,
an
important
thing
is
that
they're
also
nesting
sites
and
food
for
wildlife,
and
these
mature
trees
start
leaving
and
our
wildlife
has
to
go
someplace
else
to
to
find
home.
E
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
wondering
is
if
this
group
can
look
if
this
fits
mission
can
look
at
this
as
an
information
or
education
opportunity
to
teach
us
how
to
better
take
care
of
trees.
How
to
recognize
the
tree
when
a
tree
is
stressed
how
to
water
trees
in
terms
of
root
depth
and
canopy
breadth
and
so
I'm,
just
bringing
it
to
your
attention.
A
E
Then
I
just
have
just
one
quick,
thank
you
that
I'd
like
to
make
if
that's
okay,
mr.
chair
I've,
been
involved
in
the
milkweed
for
monarch,
project
and
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
around
this
table
for
supporting
that
project.
We've
been
in
operation
now
for
10
months
and
in
the
last
10
months
we
have
sent
over
900
one-gallon
desert
milkweed
plants
to
adopted
homes
and
I'm
excited
about
that
and
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that
I
appreciate
what
you've
done.
I
also
have
a
book
that
I
will
I'll
leave
with
Dan.
A
So,
if
not
we'll
move
to
welcome
and
introductions,
and
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
extend
a
welcome
to
our
new
and
returning
commissioners,
Commissioner
Flanagan,
Commissioner
Miller
and
Commissioner
McCann,
okay,
Commissioner
McCann
now
vice
chair
McCann,
of
course,
is
returning
for
his
second
term
and
commissioned
commissioners.
Flanagan
and
Miller
are
new
to
our
Commission.
Would
each
of
you
like
to
give
a
brief
introduction
and
say
a
few
things
about
your
interest
in
the
Commission.
F
G
E
F
F
Decreasing
waste
and
whatnot,
and
a
lot
of
with
a
lot
of
different
materials
and
I'm
hoping
to
bring
some
of
that
expertise
here,
but
it
will
take
a
refresher.
Fortunately,
I
have
family
up
there
that
I
could
stay
with.
So
that's
a
good
thing
and
the
other
thing
I
did
up.
There
was
I
was
involved
in
the
Oregon,
Health
Plan
and
developing
it
and
implementing
that
and
as
an
obstetrician.
That
was
like
those
are
the
diagnoses
that
are
the
highest
on
the
list
for
bang,
for
your
buck,
and
but
implementation
is
very
interesting
and
I.
F
H
You
great
hi
everyone
I'm
Jim
plant
again
and
thanks
for
accepting
my
nomination
and
I've,
been
here
coming
for
five
or
six
months,
so
I
kind
of
got
to
know
some
of
you
but
I
we've
had
a
house.
Our
family
has,
since
the
60s,
so
I've
been
coming
to
Palm
Springs,
since
I
was
a
little
kid,
so
I'd
seen
a
lot
of
history
and
but
the
last
30
years
my
experience
has
all
been
working
on
an
energy
efficiency
or
renewable
energy.
H
I've
done
a
lot
of
regulatory
work
with
public
Tilly's
Commission
in
the
last
ten
years,
I've
been
a
advisor
to
the
Hawaii
Public
Utilities
Commission
in
the
state
of
Hawaii
on
their
renewable
energy
goals.
So
hopefully
I
can
help
work
with
David
and
contribute
something
in
your
energy
purview
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all
and
I'm
learning
from
you
all
too.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
He's
our
expert
in
recycling
and
waste
reduction.
Thank
you
all
and
welcome.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
meeting
minutes.
The
minutes
of
the
January
15th
regular
meeting
were
emailed
and
posted
last
Thursday.
The
14th
of
February
per
city
policy
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
accept
in
a
second
second,
any
discussion.
J
Good
evening
welcome
new
commissioner,
so
I'll
be
brief.
Tonight
we
had
a
shredding
event
on
January
12th.
That
was
very
well
attended
and
it
went
very
well.
We
also
had
Palm
Springs
disposal
with
us
in
the
back
of
the
City
Hall
parking
lot
so
that
I'm
sure
that
attracted
more
people,
our
next
one,
is
in
April
April
20th.
Here
at
City,
Hall,
mostly
I've
been
involved
with
a
B
341
and
SB
1826
enforcement,
and
for
those
that
may
not
know
a
B
341
is
the
mandatory
commercial
recycling.
J
So
that's
all
commercial
buildings,
HOAs
and
multifamily
units
with
five
units
or
more
so
they
are
required
to
have
a
recycling
program.
The
other
one
is
8
SB
1826
and
that
it
involved
with
the
mandatory
organics
recycling
and
that's
for
the
mostly
for
the
high-end
resort,
hotels
and
the
large
producers.
But
it's
working
its
way
down.
The
important
thing
to
note
is
as
of
1
January
of
this
year.
The
enforcement
mechanisms
have
dropped
another
level
for
18:26,
so
it
includes
many
more
people
and
also
the
state
now
has
an
enforcement
mechanism.
J
J
The
other
thing
that
I've
been
doing
is
I've
been
meeting
several
times
with
Chris
Cunningham
of
Palm
Springs
disposal
and
speaking
with
our
state
representative,
Andrew
Smith,
and
the
thing
that
they
keep
enforcing
is
make
sure
that
your
programs
are
on
order
and
we're
in
good
shape
as
far
as
that's
concerned.
But
the
point
that
the
state
wants
to
make
is
that
they
can
inspect
any
city's
programs
at
any
time.
J
F
J
Just
collaborate
for
the
most
part
I
the
city
and
I
work
for
the
city
as
a
contract,
employee
and
I
visit
the
businesses
and
the
commercial
those
that
are
fall
under
this.
These
two
ordinateur
loss
is
what
I
go
out
and
I
meet
with
them.
I
help
them
I
talk
with
them.
I
have
that
with
documentation.
Answer
questions,
I,
don't
have
an
official
connection
with
Palm
Springs
disposal
is
just
that
we
work
together.
B
A
D
So
that's
all
going
on
right
now
we
did
a
little
quick
announcement
at
1p
s
this
week
and
so
we'll
continue
to
reach
out
to
folks,
and
let
them
know
that
this
is
happening.
I've
been
doing
a
little
back
and
forth
with
a
lawn
care
company
that
AQMD
works
with
to
do
a
little
demonstration
and
they've
got
a
little
Roadshow
that
so
I'm
just
trying
to
coordinate
with
them
to
see.
D
H
D
So
it
begins
on
April
1st.
We
have
talked
to
our
code
enforcement
people.
Essentially,
what
we're
asking
people
to
do
is
to
contact
the
code
enforcement
hotline
if
they
see
people
using
a
gas
power
blower,
whether
on
the
residential
side
or
the
commercial
side,
and
then
that
gets
that
get
that
notifies
the
city
that
this
that
is
happening.
And
so
then
we
can
do
the
appropriate
outreach
or
enforcement,
whichever
the
most
appropriate
thing
is
and.
D
B
D
So
people
can
report
violations
either
through
the
code
enforcement
hotline
or
through
the
go
request
app.
If
you
don't
have
that
you
should
down
that
download
that
on
your
phone,
but
that's
a
basically
a
electronic
way
that
you
can
capture
information
about
an
incident
and
submit
it
to
the
city
directly
yep.
You
can
attach
photos
as
well.
A
And
just
going
along
with
that
at
the
code
enforcement
Public,
Works
Committee
Committee
meeting
in
March,
March
6th
I
believe
we're
going
to
have
lieutenant
Villegas
who's
in
the
police
department,
but
he's
the
head
of
code.
Compliance
talk
more
about
the
enforcement
process
and
then
we
plan
to
also
have
it
on
the
agenda
at
1ps
at
the
March
14th
meeting.
So
we're
trying
to
help
get
the
word
out
as
much
as
possible.
Yeah.
D
D
We
met
with
the
subcommittee
right
soon
after
our
last
Commission
meeting
and
we
are
looking
into
and
purchasing
the
bags
that
people
will
use
to
kind
of
transport
their
batteries
from
their
home
to
the
deposit
place
deposit
locations.
We
are
working
on
the
informational,
kind
of
poster
and
and
placard
for
the
actual
station
that
will
go
into
various
places
around
the
city
and
anything
else.
We're
working
on
communication
wise.
Those
are
the
two
big
things:
the
bag
and
the
poster.
D
The
places
that
we've
identified
so
far
that
will
house
the
recycling
tubes,
our
City
Hall,
the
Sun
Rise
library,
the
leisure
center
DeMuth
Park
community
center
James
Oh
Jessie
fire
station
number,
two
and
the
city
yard.
So
those
are
the
locations
that
we've
got
so
far.
Roy
did
you
have
any
other
ones,
the
animal
shelter?
That's
right!
That's
right!.
D
D
F
D
B
D
A
D
What
I
would
like
to
do
is
do
a
little
more
work
with
the
subcommittee
to
do
a
little
more
research
on
the
topic
and
as
well
as
outreach,
because
I
know
that
it's
gonna
be
a
fairly
controversial
thing
and
so
I
think
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
our
all
our
ducks
in
the
road
we've
done
outreach
before
it
actually
happens
so
that
we
can
understand
what
people's
concerns
are
before
before
they
they
launched
them.
So
so
anyway.
D
B
F
D
A
Any
comments
or
questions
moving
on
then
to
the
next
item
in
the
agenda
on
the
next
page.
That's
the
sustainability
film
series
program
at
the
Palm
Springs
Cultural
Center.
We
have
a
motion
here
in
the
agenda,
but
before
we
have
somebody
make
that
motion
dan
or
Patrick.
Do
you
have
any
background
that
you
wanted
to
give
on
that.
B
We've
been
asked
and
and
have
brought
this
before
the
Commission
before
a
few
months
back.
The
Cultural
Center
has
asked
us
to
once
again
support
their
sustainable
film
series
and
we
had
when
we
went
through
the
budgeting
process
back
in
June,
we
had
a
allowed
up
to
two
thousand
dollars
for
that
project,
and
that
is
what
the
Cultural
Center
is
requesting
this
year.
They
want
to
be
able
to
bring
more
to
the
festival.
B
The
film
series
this
year,
maybe
even
some
speakers,
so
the
additional
funds
would
help
them
out
with
that
and
there
are
also
be
having
an
organic
wine
tasting
before
the
films
are
shown.
They've
moved
the
films
to
a
Thursday
evening
rather
than
a
Saturday
morning,
to
try
to
get
more
people
to
be
there
so
there
again
requesting
that
we,
the
Commission
sponsor
them,
and
we
do
have
a
motion
on
the
agenda.
B
B
B
A
Have
and
one
thing
you
gave
us
a
link
to
the
site
for
the
sustainability
film
series
and
at
the
bottom
of
that
site
they
do
have
the
city
of
Rome
Springs
logo
and
it
states
that
the
sustainability,
the
office
of
sustainability
is
a
sponsor
right.
So
there's
some
advertising
there
Commissioner
ignore
how.
F
A
B
A
And
then
moving
on
to
the
next
item
under
old
business,
this
is
one
that
was
input
by
Patrick
request
for
input
on
electric
scooters
in
Palm
Springs
with
we
have
had
a
discussion
on
that
in
the
past.
I
think
it
was
at
the
at
the
December
meeting
and
in
the
packet
for
this
meeting.
The
list
of
pros
and
cons
was
list
was
put
in
there
for
your
reference.
D
Thanks
I
wanted
to
get
this
on
the
Commission's
radar
and
see
about
getting
some
support
from
the
Commission
to
develop
some
sort
of
a
paper
from
the
Commission
and
the
sustainability
office.
That
essentially
says
that
what
I
believe
that
you've
already
said
in
the
past,
which
is
we
think
this
is
a
nice
idea.
There
are
some
issues
associated
with
it
here.
They
are
pros
and
cons
and
then
I
can
help
you
by
kind
of
investigating
some
best
practices
from
other
cities.
D
The
city
has
already
done
actually
quite
a
bit
of
research
on
this,
so
I
have
a
stack
about
this
tall
of
other
ordinances
and
things
that
are
out
there.
So
so
what
I'd
like
in
particular
from
the
Commission,
is
a
statement
or
a
summary.
Yes,
a
very
brief
report
that
basically
sums
up
what
you've
talked
about
to
date,
kind
of
highlights
some
of
these
pros
and
cons
that
you've
talked
about
already
and
see.
D
If
there's
anything
else,
you
want
to
add
to
that
and
then
I
can
incorporate
that
with
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
best
practices
and
kind
of
marry,
those
things
up
and
present
it
back
to
the
group
next
month.
I
know
that
there
is
some
fair
amount
of
interest
from
the
council
on
this,
so
I'd
like
to
develop
something
so
that
we
could
talk
about
it
at
our
next
meeting
so
that
we
have
some
sort
of
a
path
forward.
After
that.
A
B
We
did
say
that
we
weren't
able
to
meet
this
month
due
to
illness
and
the
the
two
cities
that
were
very
interested
in
looking
at
our
San
Diego
and
San
Jose,
both
of
who
implemented
scooters
within
their
City
and
then
had
to
come
back
and
do
some
ordinances
to
solve
the
problems
that
they
were
experiencing.
So
I
think
that
that
that's
a
really
good
place
for
us
to
start
looking
at
because
it's
the
their
recent
experience
with
those.
B
D
A
H
D
So
I
know
that
the
city
has
done
a
lot
of
research
on
it
and
I
think
that
they
are
in
the
process
of
thinking
about
what
an
ordinance
would
look
like.
But
I
do
not
know
what
the
status
of
it
is
currently
I
think
they
were
very
excited
that
we
were
formulating
an
opinion
and
some
ideas
about
it.
So
so
I
think
that
that's
that's
really
where
they're
at
okay.
A
Yeah
so
thanks
to
the
Subcommittee
on
walkability
and
pedestrian
planning
for
for
working
this
and
we'll
await
your
input
next
month.
Thank
you
and
the
next
item.
The
last
item
under
old
business
is
one
that
we've
talked
about
several
times
in
the
past
and
that's
relating
to
the
the
quote:
unquote:
smoking
ban
or
the
Clean
Indoor
Air
and
health
protection
ordinance.
We
have
a
motion
here,
written
by
Commissioner
Baker.
You
know
in
the
agenda.
B
B
The
only
difference
between
the
two
basically
is
the
one
I
drafted
includes
the
use
of
cannabis
inside
a
individuals,
residence
so
long
as
the
odor
smell
does
not
permeate
outside
of
the
four
corners
of
the
residence
and
also
we
I
switched
the
enforcement
from
a
private
cause
of
action
to
a
nuisance,
similar
to
what
Patrick
described
with
little
app
where
you
would
just
file
a
nuisance
claim
if
you
smelled
smoke
or
saw
someone
smoking
in
one
of
the
areas.
Otherwise
the
two
are
pretty
much
identical.
Okay.
B
F
F
F
K
I,
unfortunately,
still
have
the
same
concerns
I
had
last
month,
I've
gone
through
it
I'm
still
not
convinced
that
it's
fully
integrated
into
the
city's
existing
cannabis
regulations,
I'm
afraid
that
there's
either
some
overlap
or
duplication.
One
example
is
that
the
city
already
has
an
existing
definition
of
cannabis,
so
we
shouldn't
have
two
definitions
of
cannabis.
K
Then
there's
terms
in
the
zoning
code
about
canvass
facility
lounges,
so
I
am
whether
it's
a
friendly
amendment
I
substantively
continue
supported.
There's
additional
clean
of
about
definitions
that
don't
that
get
used.
Is
it
possible
for
staff
before
this
goes
to
city
councilors,
to
the
attorney
to
actually
clean
it
up
and
make
sure
that
what
we're
presenting
looks
like
we've
sort
of
researched
those
issues?
I
think
something
that
you
know.
The
Commissioner,
Baker
and
staff
could
work
on
that
and
make
a
commitment
that
you
will
work
on
that
before
it
goes
out
the
door.
K
But
I
thought
it
was
as
good
as
his
example
as
we
were
going
to
find
as
to
a
comparable
city.
It
has
somewhat
same
issues
so
so
acceptably
I'm
comfortable,
but
I
really
would
prefer
if
staff
and
Commissioner
Baker
could
take
another
look
at
it
and
clean
up
and
try
and
make
sure
that
it
refers
to
the
zoning
code
and
integrates
the
provisions
also
in
title
five
of
the
municipal
code.
Those
are
my.
My
main
comments
are.
B
A
In
looking
at
the
motion
that
was
made,
we
were
very
careful
and
working
with
Commissioner
Baker
on
the
wording
of
the
motion,
not
saying
that
we're
adopting
this
document,
but
that
we
support
in
principle,
concept,
intent
and
purpose
this
document,
so
that
does
leave
room
for
some
minor
modifications,
language
change.
But
the
important
thing
is
that
the
points
that
are
in
this
document
we
either
agree
or
do
not
agree
upon
and
in
our
vote
tonight.
C
A
A
K
That
would
be
fine
with
me
that
that
I
would
be
fine
with
me
as
long
as
staff
can
note
those
concerns.
I
said
it's
I
think
job
of
staff
and
originally
the
City
Attorney's
Office
to
go
through
that
to
make
sure
there
are
no
unintended
inconsistencies
and
just
trying
to
help
out
in
my
detailed
review.
What's.
F
You
by
accident,
you
know
we
were
warned
that
there
are
two
documents
along
the
same
lines,
but
they
didn't
have
names
on
him
or
anything
and
I
just
jumped
in
and
I
thought
that
this
one
was
your
rewrite
Commissioner
Baker
and
it
was
not
it.
This
is
from
the
Health
and
Human
Services,
but
whereas
I
like
most
of
the
content,
it
was
fine.
The
first
page
really
is
not
fine.
It's
inaccurate!
It's
filled
with
falsehoods
that
you
can
read
their
own
footnotes
and
find
what
the
truth
is
and.
F
F
Yeah
sorry
Chet,
it's
it's
one!
That
kind
of
looks
like
that.
Okay,
so
it's
on
the
first,
whereas
second
bullet
I've
suggested
a
rewrite
on
that
which
is.
Smoking
has
been
linked
to
diseases
of
nearly
all
organs
of
the
body
and
the
United
States.
Smoking
is
responsible
for
eighty:
seven
percent
of
lung
cancer
deaths,
32
percent
of
Cordon
Airy
artery
deaths
and
seventy
nine
percent
of
all
cases
of
chronic
obstructive
pulmonary
disease
and
it's
in
their
reference
and
that
wasn't
so
bad,
but
under
the
second,
whereas
third
bullet.
F
That
has
to
go
completely
because
no
evidence
whatsoever
that
congenital
anomalies
are
caused
by
secondhand
smoke
and,
in
fact,
they're
updated.
The
updated
work
as
a
result
of
research
by
the
California
Environment
Agency,
clearly
documents
that
in
their
and
literature
source
number
six,
it
causes
other
things
and
I've
added.
This
I've
made
you
know
like
my
edits
and
I
could
pass
it
on
to
you.
I
just
think.
It's
really
important
to
be
very
clear
in
giving
out
scientific
information
and
I
just
happen
to
be
someone
who
would
catch
this.
B
F
F
These
are
epidemiologic
studies,
there's
no
way
they
can
get
a
cause-and-effect
result
from
them.
They
can
only
show
risk
an
increase
in
risk
and
the
only
increase
in
risk
that
has
been
found
after
decades
of
study
is
in
low
birth
weight
and
premature
T,
which
is
pretty
serious
and
I.
Think
I've
got
just
as
strong
a
statement
here
and
it's
true
and
they
may
be
at
risk
for
a
sudden
infant
death
syndrome
and
be
susceptible
to
Branka
and
children
may
become
susceptible
to
bronchial
diseases.
B
Commissioner
Baker
I'm,
so
against
I,
just
to
be
clear,
you're
saying
that
the
OSHA
report
on
Prop
65
is
inaccurate.
That's
this
was
reviewed
by
the
American
Lung
Association,
another
of
other
groups
for
all
of
these
footnotes.
To
my
understanding,
this
wasn't
just
what
you
know.
A
group
of
random
individuals
created
I'm.
B
F
F
Not
sure
that's
exactly
what
it
is.
Okay
and
you
know
people
when
they
talk
about
these
and
actually
this
to
secondhand
smoke
to
cause
cancer,
see
that's
another
epidemiologic
study
that
they
can
say
it
increases
risk,
but
they
cannot
say
it
causes
cancer.
That's
a
different
study
entirely.
So
it's
somebody
that
doesn't
appreciate
the
difference
in
those
studies.
F
A
A
I
There
is
a
section
here:
the
come
I
I,
which
is
under
the
smoking
and
smoke
generally
subsection,
B
and
I'll.
Paraphrase
it
by
saying
that,
notwithstanding
any
other
provision
of
this
chapter,
smoking
marijuana
for
medical
purposes
is
not
prohibited
by
this
chapter
and
I
started
to
think
about
that
and
wondered
perhaps
in
this
Safety
Code
section
of
some
California
document.
This
would
answer
my
question,
but
it's
basically
that
sounds
to
me
like
legacy
language.
I
B
Well,
since
state
law
changed
a
year
ago,
you
can
either
purchase
medical,
medical
marijuana
for
medical
marijuana
or
recreational
marijuana.
The
distinction
is
really
only
in
the
taxes
that
you
pay
in
the
amount
that
you
can
purchase
per
visit
once
you've
walked
outside
of
the
store,
there's
no
way
to
distinguish.
If
you
have
a
medical
prescription
and
I,
don't
we
both
have
the
same
substance.
The
same
amount
there's
no
way
to
distinguish
the
two
I.
I
Think,
actually
it.
It
deepens
my
concern
about
this,
that
this
is
saying
that
smoking
marijuana
for
medical
purposes
is
not
prohibited,
but
anyone
I
would
imagine
if
they
were
accosted
on.
This
would
could
come
back
and
say
I'm
smoking
it
for
medical
purposes
and
then
the
whole
concept
of
having
this
having
any
restrictions
on
marijuana
smoking
at
all
becomes
a
little
bit
strange.
Well,.
B
That
burden
shifts
to
the
enforcement.
That's
the
same
as
someone
drinking
a
beer,
you
don't
know
if
they're
21
or
they're
20
years
old
and
10
months
old,
just
you
see
of
individual
drinking
a
beer.
So
the
average
person
on
the
street
is
not
their
responsibility
to
enforce
the
code.
That's
written
by
at
state
level.
A
K
K
A
A
D
D
A
H
They're,
probably
both
on
this
boat
man,
I
work
for
the
state
of
Hawaii
and
they're
under
Grady,
be
charging
program.
Hawaii
is
where
California
hopes
to
be
one
day
and
we've
done
a
lot
with
ChargePoint
and
we've
worked
on
grid
reliability
as
well
as
support
so
and
then
the
third-party
vendors
of
providing
services
so
I'd
be
happy.
Yeah.
K
Can
we
take
this
on
as
a
green
building
solar
because
I
think
and
it
gets
an
adhoc?
It
probably
understanding
fits
best
with
us
and
we
I
guess
where
we're
lacking
things
to
do,
but
it
would
be
a
nice
project
and
I've
been
following
it
quite
some
time,
because
it
is
related
to
all
of
the
things
other
things
that
we're
doing
so,
particularly
with
Commissioner
planning
and
joining
the
team.
I
hope
yes,
I
I
would
love
for
us
to
take
this
on
okay
and
we
already
have
a
meeting
scheduled
for
March
5th.
K
D
Great,
the
only
other
thing
I
would
note
on
this
topic
is
that
we
received
notice
from
the
state
that
we
had
about
twenty-one
thousand
dollars
in
funding
that
we
did
not
use
in
our
last
round
of
EB
charging
efforts
and
they
requested
that
if
we
wanted
to
use
that
money,
we
request
an
extension,
so
I
submitted
that
request
for
an
extension
today
and
that
will
go
towards
the
installation
of
a
level
three
charger
here
at
City
Hall
so
anyway.
So
that's
other
good
bit
of
news.
Great.
C
B
D
A
A
The
next
item
under
new
business
is
the
one
PS
annual
picnic
which
is
on
March
23rd
2019,
and
this
is
the
one
that
I
and
Commissioner
Freeman
will
recuse
ourselves
from,
because
I'm
on
the
board
of
one
PS
and
Commissioner
Friedman
is
a
co-chairperson
of
one
of
the
one
PS
standing
committees,
so
we
will
not
participate
in
the
discussion
of
the
vote.
I
asked
vice
chair
McCann
to
lead
to
lead
the
discussion,
and
we
do
have
a
written
motion
in
here.
Dan
you
may
want
to
make
some
comments
before
discussion
starts.
D
All
right,
you
can
correct
me,
but
so
this
suggestion
came
up
at
a
previous
meeting,
I
believe
to
sponsor
the
1p
s
picnic
at
a
rate
of
$500.
If
you're
familiar
with
the
1p
s,
picnic
registration
form,
there's
sponsorships
various
sponsorship
levels
and
the
sponsorship
goes
up
to
offset
the
free
meals
that
are
provided
to
community
members.
So
in
the
past,
I
don't
believe
we
have
as
a
commission
registered
as
a
sponsor.
D
I
I
F
Could
I
just
add
something?
I
mean
we
had
a
discussion.
We
voted
unanimously,
but
I
just
wanted
to
underscore
what
a
huge
opportunity
this
is
for
the
sustainability
Commission.
There
will
already
be
representation
by
the
office
of
sustainability,
but
we
are
different.
You
know
the
office
of
this
is
Daniel
and
I'm
told
has
overlapping
functions
with
us,
but
we
serve
a
different
purpose
in
part
and
we
work
together.
F
So
we
have
two
logos
to
put
up
there
and
already
the
office
will
have
a
logo,
but
our
logo
will
be
on
the
the
big
you
know,
plus
we
have
some
online
presence
as
well.
Our
logo
have
online
presence
is
being
sponsored
this.
The
good
thing
is
that
these
are
our
stake
holders.
These
are
business
and
people
from
Palm,
Springs
I.
Think
it's
a
wonderful
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
film
festival
to
talk
about
the
blower's
everything
the
way
of
coming
up.
F
D
Yeah
I
mean
it's
part
of
the
sponsorship
and
I
think
gets
regular
practice.
This
office
of
sustainability
has
had
a
table
at
these
events,
and
we
were
actually
talking
about
how
to
create
some
new
messaging
for
the
table
and
for
outside
of
the
table
and
to
get
some
feedback
from
the
public
during
this
event,
because
I
think
you're,
right,
I
think
this
one
in
particular
is
a
really
good
one
to
get
some
community
input
and
feedback,
as
well
as
to
get
the
word
out
on
various
programs.
So
maybe
we
will
have
the
battery
recycling.
A
K
Brief
introduction
you
received
as
part
of
the
meeting
materials
a
fairly
comprehensive
article
from
the
Desert
Sun
from
this
past
October
from
Sami
Roth
who's
now
moved
on
to
the
LA
Times,
but
talks
about
the
new
technology.
We
in
Palm
Springs
in
the
north
end
of
city
near
the
freeway,
had
really
first
generation
wind
turbines
from
the
mid
80s.
A
colleague
of
my
former
firm
did
the
legal
work
for
those,
and
the
technology
has
substantially
advanced.
K
In
the
30
years,
the
Planning
Commission,
as
January
23rd
meeting,
approved
a
variance
for
an
existing
turbine
field
right
by
the
railroad
off
of
111
to
replace
363
existing
turbines
with
20
new
turbines,
with
approximately
the
same
amount
of
electricity
being
generated
so
that
doe
show
you
the
increase
of
efficiency,
the
problem
with
our
ordinances,
that's
based
on
previous
and
not
existing
technology.
The
limit
in
the
current
ordinance
is
300
feet.
The
new
turbines
of
the
Planning
Commission
approved
on
a
variance
or
499
feet.
K
The
reason
that
they're
not
taller
is
that
the
FAA
does
require
specific
authorization
at
500
feet.
Our
turbine
field
is
pretty
much
right
to
the
flat
and
the
flight
path,
so
the
FAA
would
probably
never
approve
anything
higher
than
the
500
feet,
so
the
500
that's
in
the
draft,
essentially,
would
be
likely
to
be
the
limit
for
at
least
here
in
Palm
Springs.
K
The
e
ordinance
also
increases
the
maximum
size
of
a
meteorological
tower,
essentially
weather
tower,
to
say
which
way
the
wind
is
blowing
and
that
would
go
from
200
feet
under
the
existing
ordinance
to
330
feet,
which
is
100
meters.
These
towers
seem
to
be
measured
in
meters.
The
one
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
is
three
hundred
and
fifty
fifty
315
scuse
me.
So
it's
just
in
the
in
that
same
ballpark.
K
This
is
also
consistent
with
both
the
variants
and
also
best
practice
that
I
checked
a
number
of
ordinances,
both
in
California
and
other
states
seemed
to
be
moved
to
1.1,
and
then
there
was
a
small,
conforming
change
that
I
discussed
with
the
planning
staff,
where
the
zoning
code
and
the
general
plan
didn't
exactly
seem
so
I
just
fixed
that.
So
those
are
the
key
changes.
At
least
at
this
level,
the
Planning
Commission
staff
planning
staff
will
continue
to
look
at
this.
K
So
if
we
approve
it
today,
it
goes
back
to
planning
staff
they'll
work
on
it,
probably
get
some
input
from
stakeholders
who
own
and
operate
the
fields
up
there
and
then
it'll
go
to
planning
in
the
next.
You
know
next
month
or
so.
So
that's
essentially
the
you
know:
500
foot
version
of
the
ordinance
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
H
K
They
are
obviously
there
are
lots
of
other
approvals
that
the
whole
bunch
of
other
authorities
have
to
do.
The
noise
requirements
are
largely
dealt
with
in
the
setbacks
forum,
residential
areas,
but
that's
largely
taken
care
of
through
the
zoning
code,
because
you
can't
put
these
things
really
anywhere
close
to
the
residential
areas,
and
they
are,
you
know
really
in
the
northern
end
of
town
and
in
areas
quite
a
large
distance
from
that,
so
we're
just
blessed
by
our
geography
that
the
wind
turbine
conditions
are.
K
You
know
a
good
five,
six
miles
or
so
outside
of
the
residential
areas,
that
just
that's
not
the
case
elsewhere
in
the
country,
we're
lucky
that
that
is
the
case
here
in
palm
Frank.
So
it
sort
of
takes
care
of
itself.
It
is
in
the
ordinance
there
are
requirements,
but
that's
largely
done
through
the
zoning.
By
keeping
these
things
on
the
north
end
of
town.
A
F
K
A
K
On
a
cough
drop
there,
okay
there's
a
lot
that
we've
been
going
on,
so
please
forgive
me
so
I
go
through
things.
First,
we
had
discussed
in
previous
meetings,
possibility
the
energy
code
coach
program.
We
are
hoping
that
some
funding
would
be
available
via
program
that
Sivaji
administers
with
funding
from
s
EE
and
SoCalGas.
They
are
winding
down
that
program,
so
it
looks
like
we'll
not
be
able
to
go
that
route.
Staff
Daniel
and
Patrick,
along
with
KT
barrows
of
seve
AG,
are
looking
at
some
of
the
free
alternatives.
K
Staff
from
you
know,
certainly
from
Palm,
Springs
and
I.
Think
some
of
the
other
cities
that
Katie
is
in
touch
with
on
behalf
of
sivak
are
remain
interested
in
doing
some
training.
So
it
may
not
be
this
specific
training,
module,
I'm
good,
but
rather
expensive,
but
there
are
other
training
that
we
can
look
into
so
we'll
continue
with
that.
I
have
a
further
discussion
at
our
March
5th,
given
a
meeting.
So
that's
it
on
that
one.
K
As
Patrick
mentioned,
there
will
be
a
presentation,
I
presume
by
by
councilmember
Coors,
tomorrow
evening's
council
meeting
on
that
desert
community
energy.
The
core
of
that
presentation
would
be
the
result
of
a
recent
survey
that
shows
that
at
least
of
the
folks
who
were
surveyed
in
the
3d
see
cities,
Palm,
Springs,
Cathedral,
City
and
Palm
Desert
would
support
a
paying
more
for
100%
renewable
option.
So
the
possibility
is
that
either
city
by
city
or
throughout
the
DC
work
that
the
default
will
be
under
percent
renewable.
K
You
could
then
opt
down
to
a
the
essentially
the
the
50%
non
non
carbon
and
is
35%,
so
that
will
be
discussed
further
at
tomorrow's
tomorrow's
council
meeting.
The
next
big
topic
is
yet
another
ordinance
I've
been
working
with
them
planning
director,
then
tagging
their
staff
on
the
solar
zoning
ordinance
and
once
again
the
background
is
as
a
result
of
our
discussions
with
the
National
League
of
Cities
and
some
technical
input
that
they
provided
following
our
receiving
the
gold
designation
as
a
sole
smart
city
last
year.
K
So
they
suggested
as
part
of
our
work
with
them,
that
we
update
our
zoning
rules
to
facilitate
solar
and
particular
in
light
of
the
pending
effectiveness.
As
of
January
1
22
20
of
the
energy
code,
which,
as
you
may
recall,
will
require
solar
for
all
new
residential
construction,
so
that
stayed
long.
That
goes
into
effect.
So
the
key
sort
of
points-
and
this
is
just
an
introduction-
we'll
have
a
discussion
full
discussion
at
next
month's
meeting
in
a
vote,
then,
is
that
it
basically
says
it's
best
practice
for
solar
ordinance
effort,
solar
zoning.
K
It
provides
that
solar
zoning,
solar
energy
systems
are
permitted
in
all
zoning
districts
except
environmental
sets.
It's
sensitive
areas
as
an
accessory
use,
the
establishes
height
visibility
and
setback
and
lot
line
orientation
requirements
and
protects
solar
access.
So
these
are
all
essentially
best
practices,
issues
that
that
we've
looked
at
and
once
again
with
strong
input
from
planning
staff.
So
I'm
happy
to
sort
of
take
any
questions
that
you
have.
It's
not
a
discussion
item,
but
you
have
any
questions
at
this
point.
I'll
happy
to
take
them,
I,
won't
and
then
we'll
look
at
it.
K
It'll
go
back
to
our
committee
meeting
on
the
5th
of
March
and
then
back
to
the
Commission.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
now,
I'll
note
them
or
you
can
provide
them
to
Patrick
and
Daniel
and
by
I
think
deadline
of
where
I
think
February
25th.
She
would
give
me
time
to
sort
of
turn
them
around
for
a
March
5th
meeting
and
get
the
document
posted
for
that.
So
and
that's
it
for
any
questions.
If
anyone
has
and.
K
G
I
know
that
our
Commission,
our
subcommittee,
is
gonna,
deal
with
this
item
at
our
next
meeting
in
March,
but
we're
here
now
I
think
it's
good
to
just
talk
about
these
things
in
front
of
the
full
commission.
If
we
can
and
I
have
three
items
that
I
wanted
to
discuss,
the
first
one
is
that
the
ordinance
as
written
suggests
that
solar
shouldn't
be
shaded
by
large
trees,
which
to
me
seems
backwards.
G
Trees,
reduced
demand
in
homes,
so
I
would
suggest
that,
rather
than
rather
than
saying
that
large
trees
cannot
shade
solar,
large
trees
cannot
shade
solar
unless
they
shade
homes
or
reduce.
You
know
if
the
tree
is
far
enough
away,
so
so
that
it
doesn't
reduce
demand
in
a
home
or
create
shade
for
a
pedestrian
area,
or
something
like
that.
Then
then
I
think
it's
okay
to
have
a
nice
shade,
solar,
but
otherwise
I
would
prefer
that
we
reduce
demand
over
increasing
supply
so
that
we
give
efficiency
more
importance
than
generation,
but
that
makes
sense.
G
My
second
comment
is
I
know
that
there
are
other
ordinances
that
suggest
that
the
lot
lines
should
be
within
a
certain
percentage
of
one
of
the
cardinal
directions,
but
I
actually
think
that
house
orientation
is
more
important
than
lot
orientation
in
terms
of
direct
sunlight
entering
into
a
house.
So
I'm
not
sure
that
the
lot
line
item
is
necessarily
helpful
for
us.
You
know
as
a
as
a
designer,
you
can
orient
a
house
in
a
way
that
would
increase
direct
solar
into
a
house.
G
Even
if
your
lot
line
at
a
specific
orientation-
and
my
third
comment
is
the
ordinance
has
written
right
now
suggests
that
you
can
only
build
an
oversize
quote,
unquote
oversized
system.
If
you
are
available
that,
if
you
can
tap
into
a
net
metering
program,
I
actually
think
that
that
would
discourage
solar
being
added
to
homes
and
in
fact
you
should
be
able
to
build
an
oversized
system
if
you
have
the
capacity
to
handle
that
additional
supply.
So
you
know
battery
packs.
G
You
know
other
kinds
of
resilience
techniques
that
a
community
might
want
to
have
should
all
be
encouraged,
so
I
would
suggest
that
instead
of
just
saying
I,
don't
know
if
they're
that
I
have
a
suggestion
for
better
wording,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
should
be
limiting
people
to
building
solar
projects
that
are
quote
unquote
bigger
than
they
need
to
be.
So
those
are
my
three
comments.
H
G
From
my
perspective,
residential
solar
is
really
the
the
purview
of
the
owner
and
I.
Don't
know
that,
for
me,
it
seems
like
the
purpose
of
having
solar
on
top
of
your
home
is
to
increase
things
like
neighborhood
resilience
and
the
ability
to
control
your
own
demand
and
supply.
So
I
guess
I'm,
not
comfortable
necessarily
with
the
utilities
determining
that
for
an
individual
homeowner.
But
but
that's
my
perspective,
but
that's
why
it's
good
to
talk
about
these
things
at
the
Commission,
because
we
can
have
those
different
perspectives.
K
K
We
can
feed
it
through.
I'm
will
will
discuss
these
things.
I'll
make
a
couple
of
changes
and
we'll
put
it
on
the
agenda
with
any
changes
for
the
March
5
committee
meeting
and
then
we'll
happen
at
that,
and
then
it'll
come
to
any
further
input
at
that
that
committee
meeting
then
it'll
go
to
the
Commission
on
march
19th.
One
more
item
from
myself
is
that
vice
chairman
can
and
I
are
working
on
our
workshop
with
the
news
conference
on
Friday
May
17th.
Our
workshop
topic
is
Palm
Springs
pathways
to
sustainability.
K
We
will
describe
how
commissioned
volunteer
members
partner
with
community
stakeholders
and
city
officials
to
reduce
our
carbon
footprint,
promote
recycling,
convert
city
waste
to
energy
and
encourage
solar
power
generation.
Also,
as
I
mentioned
last
month,
we
do
have
those
two
tours
as
part
of
Nusa
on
May
17th
further
along
in
that
take
the
afternoon
from
4:00
to
8:00
and
if
you're
interested
in
participating.
Please
let
Patrick
and
dad
know
know
when
I'll
work
out
those
details
and
then
I'll
invite
first
you're
going
to
talk
about
modernism
week
and.
G
I
have
some
bad
news
there,
unfortunately,
we're
gonna
have
to
cancel
our
modernism
week
presentation
we
weren't
able
to
find
projects
that
we
could
comfortably
present
to
the
public,
a
sustainable
either
for
performance
reasons
or
for
other
reasons,
and
so
that's
where
the
I
think
that's
the
the
best
decision,
rather
than
to
provide
the
public
with
information
that
wouldn't
be
sort
of
factual
or
useful.
So.
A
I
I
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
tonight
on
what
what's
happened
with
that
on
November
6th
I
got
an
email
from
Marcus,
fuller,
the
assistant
city
manager
and
city
engineer,
where
you
inform
me
that
at
a
November
14th
coming
up
Council
meeting
but
I'm
sure
that
this
passed,
they
were
authorized
to
proceed
with
a
comprehensive
update
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
a
20-year
capital
improvement
program,
and
that
is
a
much
larger
project
than
just
squeezing
out
what
fraction
organic
waste.
So
then,
on
January
15th
I
got
an
email
from
him.
I
After
asking
for
an
update
on
what
was
happening,
he
said
in
that
one
that
there's
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
to
what
we're
needing
to
do
with
the
waste
water
treatment
plant.
There's
concerns
about
nitrogen
getting
into
our
liquid
waste
stream
from
the
inertia
plant.
He
has
also
concerns
with
sole
sourcing,
a
third
party
process
that
would
lead
to
cost
implications
for
treatment
processes
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
there's
also
proven
industry
technologies
for
dealing
with
organic
waste,
maybe
including
just
putting
in
a
third
anaerobic
digestion
facility
down
there.
I
So
there's
options,
there's
alternatives
and
also
they
have
actually
hired
a
subcontractor
to
perform
a
market
analysis
on
organics
waste
to
determine,
if
there's
a
sufficient
revenue
stream
to
justify
the
capital,
expense
related
to
organics
waste
processing.
So
he
said
basically
we're
taking
care
of
this
within
the
purview
of
this
capital
improvement
program.
So
we
basically
decided
that
we've
gone
as
far
as
we
can
here
and
at
the
commission
with
it.
I
F
I'm
really
uncomfortable
with
that
I
think
I
think
we
should
have
this.
This
should
be
under
our
purview.
You
know
it's
it's.
It's
wet
waste.
It's
been
handled
in
many
many
cities
in
Portland,
I'll
talk
about
Portland
a
lot.
Probably
they
do
for
you
thing
they
do
chicken
bones,
they
do
eggs.
You
know
they
do
all
kinds
of
things
that
used
to
be
a
big
no-no
and
it's
very,
very
popular
the
restaurants-
and
you
know,
I
mean
and
there's
not.
F
I
I
I
B
F
We
have
programs
that
are
going
to
over
link
with
this
program.
Our
our
recycling
program
is
a
work
in
progress
and
it
is
going
to
we
have
to
work
with
them
in
order
to
combine
these
people,
not
just
people,
but
businesses
have
their
cans
and
we
have
to
educate
them.
There's
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
done
so
for
them
to
just
whisk
that
away
without
any
collaboration
here,
just
to
me,
doesn't
make
any
sense.
I
think.
F
D
I'm
not
sure
what
the
role
is
that
we
play
here,
but
just
offer
two
comments.
One
is
that
I
completely
agree
that
all
of
this
is
connected
in
terms
of
the
recycling
efforts
and
as
well
as
this,
this
new
potential
process.
I,
don't
think
anybody
is
whisking.
Anything
away
in
terms
of
addressing
this
issue.
I
think
that
that
people
are
looking
at
various
alternatives
on
how
to
deal
with
this
issue
and
so
I.
Don't
know
that
it's
necessarily
that
nobody's
gonna
do
anything
because
I
don't
think
that
that's
an
option
so
so
anyway.
D
So
I
think
that
it
is
as
as
was
noted,
I
think
it's
a
very
complicated
situation
and
there's
a
lot
of
interrelated
pieces
to
it.
So
I
don't
know
that
it's
going
anywhere
and
I
just
think
that
it's
an
ongoing
process
that
people
are
looking
into
and
I,
don't
know,
I
think
there's
a
range
of
things
that
people
are
still
considering.
So
that's
all
I
would
say
about
that.
B
B
I
We
have
presented
it
to
both
both
City
Council
members,
holstege
and
Coors.
Have
we
sent
them
a
report
on
this
and
apprehended
the
proposal
from
inertia
so
so
to
get
specific
about
the
brick
wall?
The
next
step
that
we
were
considering
was
inertia
would
like
to
have
been
given
a
money
basically
about
seventy
five
five.
Seventy
thousand
dollars
somewhere
around
there
to
to
work
up
their
proposal
for
this
facility
into
a
more
detailed
engineering
assessment.
How
much
would
it
cost?
What
would
happen?
What
would
they,
you
know
a
whole
bunch
of
different
things?
It
was.
I
It
would
have
been
up
to
City,
Council
and
David
Reedy,
the
city
manager,
to
approve
a
grant
of
that
size
and
and
that's
where
it
stopped,
because
what
they've
done
instead
is
they've
hired
this
other
management
team
to
to
do
an
assessment
of
some
sort
of
organics
processing
here
in
the
city
and
I,
don't
have
any
more
specific
details
on
it
because
I'm
not
involved
in
it.
Okay,.
C
So
then
the
follow-up
would
be
the
agenda
item.
That's
on
the
council's
docket
for
tomorrow.
Should
that
pass?
Does
that
preclude
this
project
from
moving
forward?
Will
that
be
the
end
of
of
it?
Or
will
you
still
have
an
opportunity
to
bring
this
forward
as
a
recommendation
as
an
altar
of
a
better
alternative?
If
you
will,
if
that's
true
well,.
I
We've
we've
already
brought
forward
this
possibility
of
going
forward
with
inertia
with
that
particular
company
to
to
get
this
more
detailed
engineering
analysis
done,
and
the
stakeholders
and
Marcus
fuller
is
a
major
one.
Have
given
me
this
feedback
to
say:
we've
hired
another
consulting
firm
to
do
the
analysis
so
I
mean
he
hasn't
told
me
in
as
many
words,
but
essentially
what
he's
saying
is
or
no
there
will
be
no
money
given
to
inertia
to
to
develop
this
project
any
further.
G
I
guess
one
thing
I
heard
is
that
there
is
gonna,
be
an
assessment
which
is
a
good
thing.
So
you
know
hopefully
they'll
come
up
with
some
solutions
that
will
work
for
the
city,
so
in
terms
of
what
we
can
do
as
a
commission.
I
want
to
offer
a
couple
of
thoughts,
and
one
is
that
that
we
we
can
request
that
energy
be
one
of
the
options
as
considered
in
the
report.
We
can.
G
I
D
I
think
I
think
it's
been
a
kind
of
a
timing
issue.
Quite
honestly,
I
think
there
is
an
interest
in
engaging
me
in
that
process.
But
again
we
just
had
an
initial
conversation
about
it
when
I
first
started
and
so
I
think
that
I
will
be
getting
more
engaged
in
in
both
that
effort,
as
well
as
all
the
waste
management
related
nuances
that
are
going
on
so
yeah.
I
You'll,
probably
aware
that
there
was
almost
a
purchase
decision
made
back
in
the
fall
for
the
downtown
areas
and
we
were
able
to
pull
that
off
of
the
agenda,
so
I
think
everybody's
just
waiting
now
to
get
this
report
and
some
guidance
from
us
and
so
been
doing
quite
a
bit
of
research
and
I've
been
finding
out
lots
of
things.
One
is
that
there
are
plenty
of
empirical
studies
out
there
that
have
shown
considerable
benefit
to
people's
self
seperating
behavior
in
public
areas.
I
If
you
do
good
signage
on
your,
if
you
color
code,
if
you
have
all
these
features,
people
will
do
a
better
job
of
putting
recyclables
into
recycle,
bins
and
trash
into
trash
bins,
which
benefits
everybody.
The
other
thing
that
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
that
I've
also
discovered
is
that
there
are
existing
already
public
space
recycling
projects
in
different
cities.
Tuscaloosa
has
done
one
for
a
park
area
near
their
downtown,
and
the
City
of
Des
Moines
has
done
it
throughout
their
downtown
area.
I
What
they've
already
done
is
they've
taken,
recycle
containers
and
trash
containers
and
they've
paired
them
up
into
waste
disposal
stations
and
then
place
them
strategically
in
these
areas.
The
the
results
I'm
finding
are
very,
very
good
with
nice
reductions
again
in
contamination
of
both
containers,
lots
of
recycle
material
being
picked
up
and
some
money
savings
as
well.
I
I
A
B
L
B
A
H
Just
put
together
a
subcommittee
report,
it
didn't
go
out
with
the
package,
unfortunately,
but
we
did
send
paper
copies
out
just
a
minute
ago.
So
we
had
a
meeting
or
I
had
a
meeting
with
Don.
You
I
know
the
city
staff
engineer.
We
discussed
three
or
four
items
and
I
shared
that
via
email
with
the
committee
and
they
put
together
some
responses.
So
I
have
a
couple
of
resolutions
on
the
back
sheet
of
this.
H
He
thinks
it's
a
reasonable
idea
to
make
sure
that
when
they
redesign
that
intersection
that
when
that
light,
turns
red
that
the
right-hand
light
onto
South
Palm
is
also
red,
so
I'm
gonna
recommend
that
we
that
we
put
forth
a
resolution
that
assures
that
the
bid
has
already
been
selected.
They've
already
put
somebody
in
there,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
we
get
something
from
them
that
that
asurs,
that
happens.
H
The
second
one
was.
We
just
discussed
the
possibility
of
painting
a
green
bike
lane
on
Bilardo
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
concern
that
the
Indian
Canyon
reroute
include
bicycle
routes,
which
I
don't
think
we're
gonna
get,
but
we
recommended
and
the
picture
went
out
with
it,
and
this
is
in
San
Jose.
There
is
a
bicycle:
a
green
lane
painted
all
the
way
down
Bilardo
Street.
He
says
he
doesn't
know
any
reason
why
that
can't
be
done.
I
know
that
it
Bilardo
is
kind
of
confusing
there's
a
lot
of
places
where
there's
a
Cheryl
lanes.
H
There's
bike
lanes
and
I
think
having
some
more
clear
bike
lanes
on
there
would
be
great
I'm
gonna
put
together
resolution.
We
would
request
that
he
look
into
that
and
see
if
that's
a
possibility,
if
that's
something
we
can
do
and
then
the
final
thing
was
that,
even
though
I
shared
with
him
that
Don
said
it's,
there's
no
chance
we're
gonna
get
a
full
bicycle
lane
on
Indian
Canyon.
My
sustain
among
other
committee
members
wanted
that
to
be
still
an
option.
H
I
said
it's
highly
unlikely,
but
I'm
gonna
put
a
resolution
just
to
support
them,
since
they
wanted
a
full
bike
lane,
but
I,
don't
think
we're
gonna
be
able
to
take
out
a
row
of
traffic
or
a
row
of
parking
on
the
Indian
Canyon
rehash.
It's
it's
all
ready
to
get
started
out
of
the
bag.
I
know
I
personally
would
never
ride.
My
bike
down.
Indian
Canyon
I
write
all
the
time
in
Bilardo.
H
It's
just
too
scary,
so
but
I'll
put
that
up
just
because
they
all
wanted
that
and
then
the
final
thing
I
want
to
make
a
resolution
on
is
that
when
they
came
to
us
and
did
a
presentation,
they
showed
that
there
were
sharrows
on
the
Indian
Canyon
for
bicycles
and
they're
gonna
be
posted
signs.
I
looked
through
the
proposal,
the
winning
bidder
that
had
it
I
didn't
see
anything
on
there.
So
I
wanted
to
confirm
with
him
that
we're
gonna
get
at
least
bicycle
markings
and
bike
show
sharrows
on
the
reverse
of
Indian
Canyon.
H
H
A
H
L
D
K
Thank
You
Clark
a
few
reporting
items
from
this
morning's
TWA
meeting
first
is
well,
it's
been
raining
a
lot,
so
people
are
using
less
water
DWA
and
this
customers
achieves
a
nineteen
point.
Four
percent
reduction
in
potable
water
production
in
January
compared
with
same
month
in
2013
cumulative
savings
over
the
last
twelve
month
period,
is
fourteen
point.
Six
percent
and
the
cumulative
savings
beginning
in
June
of
2016
when
DWA
put
it's
ten
to
thirteen
percent
target
in
place
is
sixteen
point.
K
Five
percent,
so
obviously
with
the
rain,
we're
using
less
water
and
let's
continue
that
DWA
like
Palm
Springs,
is
moving
to
district
elections
beginning
in
this
November,
and
they
were
just
holding
a
second
P
hearing
a
lot
public
hearing
on
that.
That's
required
by
state
law
in
Desert
Hot
Springs
this
evening,
and
the
final
point
is
DW-
is
holding
a
facility's
tour
on
February,
27th
I
believe
the
times
are
10
a.m.
and
1
p.m.
for
two
new
commissioners,
Flanagan
and
Miller.
K
If
you're
interested
in
attending
the
tour
DWI,
you
might
be
able
to
find
spots
for
you.
If
some
of
the
board
members
don't
go
it
sold
out,
but
they
reserved
spots
for
the
board
members
who
probably
won't
go
just
because
they've
been
on
the
door.
So
if
either
the
two
of
them
are
you
ever
interested
January,
27th,
I,
believe
10:00
and
1:00
to
go
on
a
DWI
facilities,
January
February,
27,
sorry,
February
27th.
K
K
We're
signed
up
for
the
water
Academy
then
you're,
getting
that
then,
okay,
okay,
well,
maybe
okay!
Daniel!
Do
you
want
to
follow
up
with
Ashley
and
let
her
know
then
so
I
think
there
are
slots
of
either
the
February
27th
either,
which
is
a
Wednesday
yeah
say
it
would
be
a
week
from
tomorrow
and
10
a.m.
and
1
p.m.
and
you
can
coordinate
with
Daniel
on
that
and
probably
they
can
they'll
be
able
to
find
you
a
slot
very
interesting
tour
and
that's
it
for
water.
F
K
Following
that
last
year,
but
since
there
wasn't
too
much
progress,
thank
you
for
that.
I
will
look
into
that.
It's
obviously
I
believe
the
city
is
one
of
the
plan
participants,
along
with
the
thirds
of
both
the
cities
and
the
water
agencies.
There's
a
I
think
it's
a
JPA
that
some
managing
that
and
I
will
look
further
into
that.
I
have
to
I'll.
Do
some
research
and
get
back
to
you.
K
A
L
Did
me
with
the
directors
for
the
for
kids
only
program
at
the
parks
in
America
Department
at
the
leisure
center,
and
we
spoke
about
doing
something
for
Arbor
Day,
which
is
April
27th,
and
it
would
be
I'd
like
to
put
on
the
agenda
for
next
month
to
discuss
if
we
could
sponsor
some
seedlings
and
some
plantings
and
it
you
know
possibly
make
that
a
community
event
or
maybe
just
for
the
kids.
They
definitely
want
to
do
something
with
there.
A
A
Patrick
and
I
have
been
talking
about
developing
a
more
succinct
process
for
getting
items
on
the
agenda
for
this
meeting
or
we're
still
talking
about
it.
We'll
probably
discuss
it
at
the
meeting
in
March.
But
one
aspect
of
that
is
we
thought
that
by
having
under
Commissioner
comments,
I
mean
people
recap
items
that
they
have
in
mind
for
the
agenda
for
the
next
month
or
for
coming
months.
Then
it
will
help
us
to
record
them
and
then
work
with
the
commissioners
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
items
on
the
agenda
in
the
appropriate
month.
A
But
my
obligation
is
to
get
that
draft
to
Dan
the
Monday
of
the
week
before
the
meeting
and
so
for
now,
as
was
as
we're
still
working
through
this
process,
I'd
like
to
request
that
if
there
are
any
additional
agenda
items
that
come
up
after
the
meeting
is
over,
that
you
get
them
to
me.
The
Monday
before
that,
so
that,
in
the
case
of
for
the
meeting
on
March
19,
that
would
be
March
4th.
A
C
I
know
some
comments
at
the
last
meeting
about
questions
rather
about
how
things
get
taken
on
or
off
rather
or
put
on
the
agenda.
Without
our
discussion
about
those
items
so
I
did
want
to
ask
one
of
the
takeaways
I
had
from
that
meeting
was
that
you
guys
were
going
to
be
setting
up
some
specific
information
sharing
for
the
Commission
about
the
rules
as
regards
to
agenda
items,
and
that
is
planned
then.
Is
that
gonna
be
on
the
next
agenda?
We'll.
A
C
All
right,
I
appreciate
that
the
other
thing,
the
under
public
comment,
the
member
of
the
public,
who
spoke
to
us,
brought
up
the
issue
of
the
dying,
trees
and
I.
Think
that
might
be
an
excellent.
There
might
be
an
excellent
opportunity
to
integrate
that
into
the
Arbor
Day
discussions
that
you're
having
some
sort
of
information
would
be
in
education
would
be
ideal,
I
think
so.
Just
putting
that
out,
there
Thank.
L
F
K
I
don't
think
a
further
resolution.
Action
from
the
Commission
will
be
necessary
on
DCE,
but
I
will
defer
that
to
what
I
have
KT
barrows
does
participate
in
our
monthly
committee
meeting.
So
that's
a
possibility.
It's
just
a
placeholder
it,
whether
it's
a
formal
agenda
item
or
just
a
report
back
we'll
know
more
about
that
following
the
next
step
community
meeting.
So
just
keep
that
as
a
placeholder,
although
once
again
I
don't
expect
formal
action
for
the
Commission
just
to
work
back.
Nothing
specific
that
at
which
I'm
currently
aware
on
water,
Thank,
You.
H
H
G
I
had
a
question
for
Patrick:
you
mentioned
that
there's
gonna
be
priority.
Setting
activities
coming
up
soon
in
the
past
I
think
we
did
that
in
September
or
October,
and
it
was
a
special
session
of
the
Commission
I'm,
just
wondering
if
you
had
any
thoughts
about
how
that's
gonna
take
place
this
time.
I
do
not
yet
and
you're.
D
Gonna
win
so
I
just
had
some
initial
conversations
internally
about
what
I
was
seeing
and
what
was
what
I
was
hearing
and
so
wanted
to
get
their
input,
especially
about
council
interest,
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
I
think
that
we're
pretty
well
aligned
so
I.
So
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
the
next
step
is
with
that,
but
I'll
find
out
and.