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C
D
B
Yes,
good
morning
or
good
evening,
everyone,
member
roosevelt
here
member
miller
here
member
kaiser
here
member
hanson.
D
E
D
E
D
Any
opposed
so
motion
passes
seven
to
zero.
Next
is
a
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
historic
site
preservation
board
on
agenda
items
of
in
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
board.
Although
the
historic
site,
preservation
board
values
everybody's
comments,
pursuant
to
the
brac
brown
act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
that
are
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda,
so
there
are
three
minutes
assigned
for
each
speaker.
D
B
D
D
So
looking
at
the
minutes,
are
there
any
revisions
to
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
of
april
6
2021?
Madam.
F
D
F
I
think
that
several
of
us
commented
on
chair,
burkett's
leaving
and
I
think
somewhere
in
the
minutes.
It
should
be
documented
that
this
board
really
appreciated
all
he's
done
and
his
time
on
the
board.
D
Okay,
so
the
revision
would
be
for
comments
from
the
board
on
burkett's
contributions.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
D
Okay,
so
may
I
have
that
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
of
april
6
2021
with
that
revision,
so
moved,
okay
and
so
linda
dixon,
and
may
I
have
a
second
I
second,
the
motion:
okay,
janet
janet
hansen,
so
I
have
a
motion
by
by
linda
dixon
and
a
second
by
by
janet
hansen.
D
Is
there
any
discussion
about
that?
Okay
sing
sing,
none
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
with
revisions,
please
say:
aye
aye
and
any
opposed.
A
B
A
I
think
120
day
stay
on
additional
work
being
done
and
also
that
the
property
clearly
qualifies
for
designation
as
a
class
one
historic
site
for
so
many
reasons.
So
that
is
the
statement
of
the
modern
committee
and
we
look
forward
to
hearing
your
discussion.
Thank
you.
D
Okay
did
did
we
miss
anybody
else
for
those
public
comments.
B
D
B
As
a
rendering
done
by
the
designer
in
1950
and
as
you
can
see,
there
much
remains
of
the
original
design
intent.
The
analysis
of
this
project
against
the
criteria
for
designation
begins
on
page
four
of
your
staff
report
and
as
noted
there,
the
this
site,
we
believe,
qualifies
as
a
historic
site
under
several
different
categories
on
the
list.
B
Excuse
me
as
a
example
of
a
post-world
war
ii
project
project
that
represents
the
embrace
of
modernism
by
developers
and
residents
of
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
that
it
embodies
the
artistic
work
of
having
a
problem
here
of
pervert
burns
whose
almost
trademark
details
on
this
house
are
are
completely
evident
with
his
secondary
fascia,
the
peers
of
long
horizontally,
cut
arizona,
sandstone,
the
indoor
outdoor
quality
and
several
other
factors.
B
As
noted
on
page
six
of
your
staff
report,
burns
was
credited
with
the
design
of
many
projects
in
the
tennis
club
neighborhood,
including
the
town
and
desert
apartments.
The
400
building,
the
village
manor
desert
hills
apartments
in
the
holiday
house.
Burns
was
also
fairly
prolific
in
other
residential
designs
throughout
the
city.
B
So,
for
those
reasons
with
the
identity
we've
identified
that
the
building
qualifies
as
a
historic
site
under
those
criteria,
I
did
note
in
the
staff
report.
The
author
of
the
report
asserts
that
the
crockett
residence
also
embodies
the
distinctive
characteristics
of
a
particular
type
or
method
of
construction,
recognizing
it
under
the
late
modern
style
of
architecture.
B
I've
provided
some
information
that
I
dug
around
trying
to
further
substantiate
this,
and
it's
noted
on
page
five
and
ten,
the
information
that
I
had
found
about
it.
My
assertion
on
this
is
that,
while
the
crockett
residence
is
thoroughly
modern
in
its
architectural
style,
the
report
does
not
make
a
compelling
case.
D
B
It
is
a
noteworthy
example
of
late
modern
architecture.
The
notes
on
page
five
notes
that
the
style
is
characterized
by
horizontality
flat,
roofs,
minimal
orientation.
All
of
those
qualities
certainly
are
present
here.
Horizontal
bands
of
bezeled
or
bended
windows
do
not
exist.
B
Louvered
aluminum,
louvers
does
not
exist,
operable
seal
sash
has
been
removed
and
replaced
with
replacement
windows
and
projecting
window
frames
do
not
exist.
B
So,
although
the
project
has
very
much
a
modern
flavor
to
it,
we
did
not
assert
the.
The
report
had
made
a
compelling
case
in
that
particular
criteria
as
it
relates
to
integrity.
However,
we've
gone
through
the
various
qualities
of
integrity
and
identified
this
home
does
possess
strong
historic
integrity
in
terms
of
its
design,
setting
materials
and
workmanship
and
association
with
herbert
burns.
B
On
page,
nine
of
your
staff
report
is
a
list
of
the
proposed
defining
characteristics,
including
the
thin
horizontal
fascia,
the
asymmetrical
floor
plan
and
so
on
that
are
listed
there
on
page
10..
The
non-contributing
features
that
were
identified
were
the
aluminum
replacement
windows
and
sliding
glass
doors
in
the
desert,
landscaping
in
the
front
yard.
B
This
is
a
public
hearing.
The
applicant
is
in
the
audience
here
and
would
like
to
speak
further
on
this.
At
least
he
was
yeah
right
here.
Oh
yes,
I'm
sorry,
I
see
you
there
stephen!
Thank
you
so
that
concludes
my
staff
report.
I'm
available
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
D
Okay,
thank
you,
ken
does
the
board
have
any
questions
of
of
the
staff?
First,
any
any
questions
for
staff?
No,
anyone,
no
okay!
So
so
I
will
saying
no
for
the
questions
of
the
staff.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
does
the
applicant
wish
to
speak.
As
mr
lyon
indicated,
you
were
present.
G
D
Okay,
so
so
welcome
mr
horn,
and
is
there
anything
else
that
you
would
like
to
tell
us
about
your
application
beyond
ken's
report
or
want
to
reemphasize
or
or
state
just
for
the
record?
Please
state
your
full
name
and
your
address
and,
and
you
do
have
10
minutes
to
present,
and
then
you
also
will
have
two
minutes
of
rebuttal
if
desired.
After
all,
the
hundreds
of
public
comments
that
will
come
forth
so
welcome.
Mr
horn,.
A
Well,
thank
you.
I
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
comments.
I
think
I
believe
that
stephen
has
has
some
comments
and
since
he
has
an
awful
lot
more
knowledge
on
this
topic,
I'll
actually
leave
a
lot
of
those
comments
up
to
him.
But
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
I'm
very
much
a
neophyte
in
terms
of
historical
architecture
which
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
you
notice
when
you're
on
the
site
visits,
but
I've
learned
just
an
enormous
amount
and
becoming
more
and
more
enthusiastic
about
this
through.
A
You
know,
as
far
as
the
knowledge
that
that
has
been
imparted
by
first
of
all,
stephen
and
then
all
of
you
on
the
site
visits
who
are
so
knowledgeable,
even
even
knowledgeable
about
my
house,
which
I
was
amazed
at
some
of
you
have
been
in
my
house,
and
you
know
you
know
more
about
my
house
than
I
do
frankly.
So
it's
been
a
really
a
great
process
for
me,
because
I've
learned
a
lot
and
I'm
becoming
more
and
more
enthusiastic.
A
Obviously
I
wouldn't
have
started
this
process
if
I
wasn't
interested
and
enthusiastic
and
to
start
with,
but
as
I've
gone
through
the
process,
I'm
certainly
have
a
greater
understanding
of
the
importance
of
architectural
preservation
in
palm
springs
and
I'll
leave.
Any
any
further
comments
up
to
stephen.
Okay.
D
Thank
you,
mr
horn.
We
appreciate
all
your
efforts
and
and
in
your
good
passion,
for
preservation,
of
course,
so
our
I
believe,
mr
keilan,
would
you
like
to
speak
next
for
the
public
on
this
item.
G
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
Everyone.
My
name
is
stephen
keilon.
I'm
live
at
1141,
south
kaye,
marcus
in
palm
springs,
and
I
was
the
author
of
the
nomination.
I'm
vice
president
of
the
palm
springs.
Preservation
foundation
and
pspf
enthusiastically
supports
this
going
forward
as
a
class
one.
I'm
I'm
happy
that
mr
lyon
has
is
recommending
that
it
go
forward
as
a
class
one.
The
only
thing
I
was
sort
of
disappointed
in
was
that
he
didn't
think
I
provided
a
compelling
argument
that
it
represents
late,
madurain
design.
G
I
believed
her
burns,
designed
primarily
in
the
late
modern
style,
though
at
the
time
he
wouldn't
have
called
it-
that
that's
something
architectural
historians
you
know
invented
her
on,
but
like
mr
lyons,
I
found
very
little
written
about
late,
madeira
and
what
I
did
find
was
primarily
written
about
commercial
architecture.
G
So
I
contacted
alan
hess
who's
a
friend
and
who
had
in
his
book
about
palm
springs.
Modern.
The
shulman
had
remarked
that
herbert
burns
designed
in
the
late
modern
style
and
gave
a
really
brief
description,
which
I
included
in
the
nomination,
and
so
he
said,
you're
right,
there's
been
very
little
written
and
especially
nothing
written
about
residential
late,
modern,
so
welcome
go
ahead,
you
do
it.
G
I
wrote
a
whole
chapter,
a
whole
sort
of
context,
statement
about
the
late,
modern
style
focusing
on
residential
in
the
herbert
burns
book,
and
so
I
pulled
some
of
those
elements
into
the
nomination,
hoping
that
that
would
be
a
compelling
argument,
but
I
guess
it
wasn't,
but
some
of
the
things
that
late,
modern,
you
know
was
influenced
by
these
architects
were
influenced
by
frank,
lloyd,
wright
and
his
usonian
homes
and
falling
water.
G
G
Other
things
are
the
floating
soffits
which
extend
into
the
inside
of
the
house
and
are
often
up
lit
and
her
at
lake
madurain
really
does
have
more
decorative
touches
than
you
know.
International
style
or
post
and
beam
style
and
you'll
see
that
in
those
vertical
steel,
poles
that
are
used
and
the
louvres,
often
these
big
box
grids
other
architects
working
with
this
were
paul
williams
and
h,
roy
kelly
and
burton
schutt,
and
lots
of
different
people
around
beverly
hills
and
los
angeles.
G
So
I
I
shared
with
alan
what
ken
had
written
and
he
wrote
me
back
saying.
No,
this
is
definitely
a
work
of
late
modern,
and
so
I
shared
those
with
ken.
So
I
firmly
say
that
this
crockett
residence
is
is
a
work
of
late,
modern,
it's
one
of
herbert
burns's
herbert
burns
design.
G
I
don't
know
a
handful
of
houses,
three
really
great
great
sort
of
lavish
houses,
the
gilman
house,
the
crockett
house
and
then
the
house
next
to
frank
sinatra's,
and
what
mr
horn
has
done
to
restore
the
the
carport
situation
really
improved,
and
he
tells
me
now
that
he
wants
to
remove
the
there's
some
built-in
closets
built
around
this
two
steel
vertical
poles.
He
wants
to
restore
that
condition
which
will
really
enhance
that,
because
that
secondary
fascia
turns
into
the
carport
roof
and
then
with
those
two
really
thin.
G
Poles
creates
this
really
startling
effect
of
this
roofline,
that's
floating
in
space
or
seems
to
be
he's
also
interested
in
perhaps
restoring
the
paint
colors
to
the
house.
I
think
that
it's
even
going
to
improve
and
become
more
like
what
herbert
burns
had
a
vision
for
the
house,
especially
on
the
facade
that
one
sees
off
linda
vista
road.
D
B
Had
not
gotten
any
other
request
to
speak
on
this
item?
Madam
chair,
I
don't
know
if
any
of
the
other
people
who
are
in
the
meeting
with
us
here
today
wish
to
speak
on
that.
If
any
of
you
do,
please
turn
your
video
camera
on.
So
we
can
have
the
chair
recognize
you.
D
D
Okay
and
then,
mr
horn,
did
you
wish
to
make
any
additional
comments
of
rebuttal
at
this
time,
or
are
you
good
with
those
comments?
D
Okay,
so
seeing
no
further
speakers
on
this
item,
I
will
now
close
the
public
hearing,
so
the
action
is
now
with
the
board
and
I
invite
a
discussion
amongst
the
board
members.
If
anyone
would
like
to
speak
first,
please
raise
your
hand,
mr
nelson,
mr
nelson.
H
Thank
you,
so,
first
of
all,
just
a
huge
thanks
to
mr
horn
for
coming
on
board,
with
the
nomination
for
class
one
destination
and
to
mr
keylon
and
the
preservation
foundation,
as
always
for
finding
these
gems
and
making
sure
that
they
get
written
up
and
protected.
H
When
I
was
at
the
side
visit,
there
was
some
discussion
with
the
owner,
mr
horn,
about
restoring
the
original
pink
color,
which
we
believe
may
be
a
pink
or
dusty
rose
or
something
of
that
nature,
and
I
would
just
like
to
ask
the
rest
of
the
board
to
consider
that
we
are
in
our
motion
request
that
it
be
returned
to
the
original
color
if
they're
able
to
find
it
on
the
building
and
not
some
alternate,
and
I
know
that
mr
helon
has
a
very
good
resource
of
the
bone.
H
Colors
and
paint
washes
from
the
period
and
that
kind
of
thing.
The
other
question
I
have
for
the
applicant
was
about
the
wood
planter
that
appears
in
one
of
the
original
rendering,
which
was
most
likely
made
from
redwood,
perhaps
something
else,
but
I
think
boeing
used
redwood
and
it
was
under
the
window
just
to
the
right
of
the
front
door
and
wondering
if
it
ever
got
built.
If
we
know
and
regardless
of
whether
it
was
built
and
moved.
If
there
are
any
plans
to
try
to
rebuild
that
and
put
it
back.
A
Hadn't
thought
about
that.
To
be
honest,
but
it's
not
it's
it's
a
good
idea.
As
far
as
I
know
it
certainly
wasn't
there.
When
I
bought
the
house
and
it's
on
the
basis
of
the
photos
that
were
shot
in
1956
by
julius
shulman,
it
doesn't
appear
in
those
either.
So
I
I
would
assume
it
wasn't
there,
but
it
certainly
well
there's
that's
it.
It
certainly
appears
actually
in
the
sketch
by
oel
graves,
so
yeah,
it's
it's
not
a
bad
idea.
A
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
good
ideas,
well
brought
up
actually
during
each
of
the
site
visits
and
that
and
that's
another
one.
Frankly,.
D
You're
muted,
mrs
dixon
you're,
muted.
F
Regarding
the
picture
window
in
front
that
we
see
in
the
sketch
has
any
thought
been
given
to
replacing
the
smaller
window
with
a
window,
the
type
of
the
window
in
the
sketch
and
then
the
landscaping
it
looks
like
the
landscaping
in
the
sketch
was
grass.
Someone
said
that
there
were
more
pictures
and
steve.
I
know
you're,
just
excellent
with
landscaping.
Have
you
given
any
thought
to
any
changes
to
the
landscaping.
G
G
What's
there
is
you
know
the
original
palms
are
still
there
all
those
have
been
added
over
time
and
those
are
there.
But
you
know
the
grass
has
been
turned
to
rock
and
and
gravel,
and
that
sort
of
thing
which
you
know
it's,
it
is
more
drought,
tolerant,
but
because
it
wasn't
the
work
of
a
master
landscape
architect,
I
wouldn't
say
that
it's,
the
original
landscape
would
be
considered
significant.
F
B
If
you
look
on
page
28
of
the
historic
resources
report,
you
can
see
the
actual
working
drawings
in
the
window
that
exists
today
is
generally
the
same
size
and
shape
and
location
as
you
see
on
those
actual
blueprint
drawings
by
burns.
So
I
would
agree
with
stephen.
It
seems
as
though
the
rendering
may
have
taken
some
artistic
liberties
on
it,
but
the
ultimate
final
design
appears
to
have
been
the
smaller
window
that
we
see
today.
I
Happily
missed
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
touch
on
the
the
qualification
of
the
property
or
or
what
stephen
had
talked
about
in
classifying
it
as
an
excellent
example
of
the
late
modern-
and
I
don't
know,
if
there's
anyone
who
wanted
to
revisit
that,
I'm
not
sure
if
stephen
expressed
some
disappointment
is
that
I'm
new
on
the
board.
I
So
I'm
not
exactly
sure
you
know
how
the
discussions
would
go
on
issues
like
that,
where
staff
might
disagree
and
then,
of
course
the
report
said
one
thing
I
can
say
that
you
know.
I
agree
that
you
know
there
isn't
much
lit
written
on
lake
modern,
certainly
not
a
lot
on
residential
and
sometimes
it's
difficult
to
use
comparisons
of
commercial
properties
for
a
residential
property.
I
So
and-
and
certainly
I
have
a
huge
amount
of
respect
for
alan
hess,
who
is
you
know,
also
a
colleague-
and
he
worked
with
us
in
los
angeles,
on
quite
a
few
of
the
historic
context
relating
to
architecture,
and
he
is
pretty
much
an
expert
on
almost
every
architectural
style.
I
As
I've
come
to
find
he's
very
seldom
wrong,
and
I
also
think
you
know,
obviously
this
fits
into
the
broader
category
of
mid-century,
modern
and
in
some
ways
it
even
has
some
of
the
characteristics
of
what
alan
would
call
a
custom
ranch,
except
that
it
has
a
flat
roof.
You
know
typically
you'd
find
a
pitched
roof,
even
though
it's
it
might
be
very
low
pitched.
So
I
don't
I
don't
know
I
mean
I'm
I'm
you
know
I
do
agree
with
staff.
I
I
think
maybe
there
could
have
been
more
information
to
beef
up
that
discussion
to
really
make
that
finding,
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
desire,
you
know,
obviously
meet
several
criteria
and
it
only
needs
to
be
one.
H
Yes,
I
would
like
to
concur
with
member
hanson
comments
and
thank
you
for
reading
that,
because
I
was
really
glad
to
see
mr
kulan
come
on
and
explain
about
the
late,
modern
style
and
having
read
his
book
on
her
bones
and
having
a
copy,
maybe
as
a
suggestion
when
future
nominee
nominations
are
written
for
herbert
burns
properties.
H
There
could
be
a
a
reference
or
a
footnote
to
read
the
chapter
in
the
book
that
talks
about
the
late
modern,
but
personally,
I've
always
believed.
Ever
since
I
became
aware
of
bones
that
he
was
one
of
the
top
three,
perhaps
orbiters,
of
this
late,
modern
style
upon
his
arrival
here
in
the
mid-1940s,
which
would
have
predated
welton
beckett
and
richard
neutral's
arrival.
H
Even
so,
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
he
could
have
been
one
of
the
earliest
practicing
designers
to
bring
that
style
to
the
desert,
but
he
may
have
not
been
as
recognized
or
well
known
back
then,
and
obviously
beckett
or
nordstrom
was
so.
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
opportunity
in
this
nomination
to
single
that
out
and
really
make
it
crystal
clear
that
this
being
1950
one
of
the
earlier
residential
commission.
H
H
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there
and
thank
member
hanson
again
for
driving
that
point
home.
G
G
D
So,
in
any
other
discussion,
I
I
thank
everyone
for
their
comments,
and-
and
this
is
good-
you
know
documentation
for
future
research,
future
publications.
D
You
know
that
goes
on
and
evolves
as
as
we
all
learn
more
and
know
more
and
research
more,
so
so
all
good
discussion
is
there
any
any
additional
comments
that
wish
to
be
made
at
this
time.
Anyone
else,
mr
lyon,.
B
I
just
want
to
suggest
if,
between
this
hearing
today
and
the
time
when
we
get
this
prepared
for
city
council
at
their
public
hearing,
maybe
I
can
work
with
steve
kaylan
and
we
can
look
for
some
other
sources
to
help
document
and
substantiate
this
as
a
late,
modern
building.
I'm
not
opposed
to
that.
B
I
just
think
that
when
we
look
at
what
we
have
as
far
as
that,
which
is
in
writing
to
describe
the
style,
the
home
kind
of
falls
short
in
that
regard,
I
don't
doubt
that
it's
from
that
particular
period,
but
I
think
we
need
to
do
something
more
to
if
you
want
to
say
from
an
academic
point
of
view,
substantiate
that
assertion,
so
I'm
willing
to
work
with
him
during
the
period
between
now
and
the
public
hearing
of
the
city
council
see
if
we
can
maybe
come
up
with
additional
information
somewhere
out
there
in
the
written
material
to
to
bring
that
point
home.
G
Like
I
said
there
wasn't
any
more
written
material,
which
is
why
alan
and
I
worked
together
in
that
context
statement.
So
I
don't
know
what
we
could
find
between
now
and
then
that
I
haven't
written.
So
I'm
ready
to
just
let
it
go.
I
I
That
you
know
you
might
even
consider,
though,
stephen
adding
the
information
from
alan
hess
into
the
report.
As
an
expert,
you
know
I
mean
just
like
people
quote
robert
winter,
in
los
angeles.
G
I
Take
that
as
sort
of
fact,
but
you
might
be
able
to
you
know
I
mean
it
might
not
take
that
much
more
information.
I'm
saying
you
know
to
do
that
and
I
think,
as
as
board
member
nelson
pointed
out,
you
know
if
there's
going
to
be
more
nominations
by
this
particular
architect.
I
G
Another
one
now
so
I
think
with
that
one
I'll
include
a
copy
of
the
book
with
each
nomination,
but
I
did
provide
mr
lyon
alan
hess's
assessment
that
it
last
week
that
it
he
agrees.
It
is
a
late
modern
style,
with
his
bullet
points
on
why
he
sees
it
that
way.
So
I
can
create
a
revised
edition
to
this
and
send
it
or
do
an
errata
page
or
something.
A
D
F
I'll
second,
the
motion
would
the
maker
of
the
motion
and
be
willing
to
include
that
staff
include
the
allen
hess
assessment
in
the
documents
going
to
city
council.
A
D
Sure
so
so
the
recommendation,
except
the
report
with
the
recommendation
to
to
to
research
and
look
into
the
the
paint
color
and
and
miss
dicks
and
you're
the
second
on
that
correct.
Yes,
okay,
okay,
so
is
there
any
further
discussion?
D
Any
further
discussion
at
this
point?
Okay,
saying
none
I'll
call
for
the
question
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
raise
your
hand
in
the
one
opposed
okay,
the
motion
passes
seven
to
zero.
Very
good.
Thank
you.
So,
moving
on
to
unfinished
business
there
is
is
no
unfinished
business.
So
let
us
proceed
to
agenda
item
4a.
B
This
project
was
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
city
through
some
discussions
with
contractors
at
the
site
in
which
we
discovered
that
there
had
been
work
done
on
the
site
without
building
permits
and
without
approvals
by
the
hspb
or
the
hpo.
B
Unfortunately,
as
you
can
see
on
some
of
the
images
in
your
staff
report,
there's
already
been
some
degree
of
substantial
demolition.
The
the
terrazzo
pool
terrace
has
been
completely
removed.
B
B
This
is
a
class
three
historic
site
and
when
the
board
contin
considers
an
application
for
alteration
or
demolition
of
a
class
3
site,
the
board
has
two
particular
findings
to
make,
and
the
action
of
the
board
is
not
in
this
case,
to
approve
the
scope
of
work
as
being
quote
unquote,
consistent
with
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards,
the
action
of
the
board
is
to
consider
whether
or
not
there
appears
to
be
enough
material
and
information
that
the
house
or
the
property
may
be
potentially
historically
significant
to
warrant
initiating
an
application
to
redesignate.
B
So
that
is
what
your
your
call
is
before
you
today.
The
applicant
has
provided
a
great
wealth
of
information
in
terms
of
what
they
are
desiring
to
do
to
the
home.
Through
my
conversations
with
the
owners,
their
intent
is
to
do
a
sensitive
restoration
of
the
home.
They
do
not
intend
to
keep
the
home.
B
B
So
the
staff
recommendation
on
this
is
for
the
board
to
direct
that
a
redesignation
application
be
initiated
and
that
a
stay
of
demolition
be
placed
on
the
property.
Now
the
applicant
is
here
and
wants
to
speak
to
this
item.
Also,
there
has
been
some
discussion
about
the
fact
that
there
is
work
that
has
occurred
on
the
interior
of
the
home.
As
you
know,
the
historic
designation
of
a
private
property
does
not
apply
to
the
interiors.
B
So
in
this
instance,
while
the
work
has
occurred
on
the
interior
and
there's
more
work
that
the
owner
would
like
to
do,
that,
interior
work
would
not
be
considered.
As
a
qualifying
factor
in
your
decision
tonight,
so
that
is
our
recommendation
at
staff
level
is
to
place
the
stay
and
initiate
further
research
on
the
property.
The
owner
does
wish
to
further
comment
on
the
application
and
I'm
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
mr
lyon.
So
let's
first
ask:
if
does
the
board
have
any
questions
of
staff?
Any
staff
questions
this?
This
is
dixon.
F
B
F
Okay,
have
the
current
owners
ever
done
any
other
projects
in
palm
springs.
B
B
F
B
Well,
the
dpr
forms
that
you
see
at
the
end
of
your
packet,
the
first
one
several
pages
is
from
the
2004
citywide
historic
resource
survey.
B
The
second
or
latter
couple
of
pages
were
from
the
more
recent
city-wide
historic
resource
survey
that
was
undertaken
just
a
couple
of
years
ago,
so
the
information
relative
to
its
class
3
status
is
available
on
the
city's
website
and
there
is
a
narrative
there
talking
about
the
potential
significance
of
this
home.
These
particular
dpr
forms
were
not
provided
to
by
staff
to
a
realtor
or
anybody
else
on
this
particular
project.
F
Okay
and
we
learned
that
the
terrazzo
around
the
pool
is
gone
and
I
think
in
the
report
this
current
owner
wants
to
put
brushed
concrete
down.
B
Well
and
what
I
would
further
clarify
member
dixon
is
that
if
you
follow
what
this
process
may
take,
if,
if
you
choose
to
take
the
recommendation
of
staff
in
the
report,
we
will
initiate
the
study
in
the
application
on
this
particular
property,
and
we
will
bring
you
a
report
with
within
a
public
hearing
of
the
hspb,
that
recommendation
of
the
hspb
will
be
forwarded
to
the
city
council
and
heard
also
at
a
public
hearing
if
the
public,
I'm
sorry.
B
If
the
city
council
determines
that
the
house
should
be
designated
as
a
class,
1
or
class
2
site,
they
can
do
so
at
that
point.
The
alterations
that
the
owner
is
considering
would
come
back
to
the
hspb
in
the
form
of
a
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
and
at
that
time
you
would
be
weighing
in
on
the
question
of
material
selections
and
other
design
characteristics
of
the
proposed
alterations.
B
F
D
Thank
you
thank
you,
miss
dixon,
and
to
mr
lyon
for
clearly
clarifying
what
our
mission
is
today,
with
this
review
and
asking
a
few
more
questions.
Okay,
mr
rosen,
now.
A
E
Important
building
in
west
palm,
as
well
as
all
of
all
of
palm
springs.
A
And
I
I
do
agree
that
we
should
we
should
pursue
looking
at
the
the
the
designation
and
and
seeing
if
it
can
be
redesignated
as
a
class,
two
or
even
a
class
one,
which
I
think
it
should
be
a
classified.
So
thank
you
for
this.
A
I'm
assuming
that
this
report
will
come
out
of
our
very
small
budget.
Am
I
correct?
This
is
correct.
Okay,
I
think
that
this
house
is
worth
spending
it
on.
So
I
think
that
this
should
definitely
be
done.
A
H
Yes,
question
for
staff:
it
says
on
page
five
of
nine
of
the
report,
the
second
paragraph
that
in
mid-april
it
was
discovered
that
construction
work
on
the
home
had
come
out
without
permit
approval,
just
wondering
if
staff
can
elaborate,
whether
a
call
was
put
into
staff
or
if
a
anonymous
report
was
made
by
a
code
enforcement
or
how
they
came
to
learn
about
this.
B
I
contacted
the
pool
contractor
who
had
submitted
the
building,
permit
application
for
the
pool
replacement
and
we
began
discussing
the
scope
of
the
project
because
it
wasn't
clear
on
the
drawings
that
I
had
seen
with
that.
I
began
to
ask
if
I
could
come
out
to
the
site
and
observe
what
the
scope
of
the
work
was.
So
I
could
better
understand
the
condition
of
the
terrazzo
that
was
proposed
to
be
demolished
and
they
agreed.
B
B
That's
how
we
came
to
find
out
about
the
current
work
that
was
going
on.
A
So
I
have
a
question
for
dan
lyon:
are
we
the
board,
limited
to
the
120
day,
stay
as
a
first
step
and
if
we
need
additional
time
to
work
on
the
report
or
the
report
needs
additional
time
to
be
finished?
Is
there
the
ability
to
increase
that
120
days
beyond
that
period?.
B
Yes,
member
miller,
there
is
an
ordinance
stipulation
that
says
120
day
stay
up
to
120
days,
day
may
be
imposed
and
an
additional
60
days
may
be
imposed
if
it
requires.
So
in
order
to
complete
the
process.
B
F
Question
please
a
stamp.
Will
this:
will
these
owners
be
fined
for
the
work
they've
done
without
permits.
B
Yes,
in
the
in
the
making
of
the
application
for
this
item
that
is
here
before
you
tonight,
the
city's
fee
schedule
requires
that
work
that
is
done
without
permits
or
approvals,
is
charged
at
double
the
cost
of
the
application
fee,
and
that
was
the
case
for
their
application
fees
that
were
submitted
on
this
particular
item
before
you
today.
The
same
stipulation
holds
true
on
building
permits
when
there
is
work
done,
that
would
require
a
building
permit
for
which
a
building
permit
was
not
issued.
B
The
penalties
are
that
the
application
or
the
building
permit
fees
are
doubled.
H
Yeah,
since
we
are
still
asking
questions
of
staff,
I
think
someone
brought
up
a
good
point
earlier
about
the
dpr
form
at
the
end
of
our
report
and
if
there
could
be
a
way
for
us,
through
the
city
staff,
to
provide
the
listing
agents
of
class
3
properties
in
the
future
with
the
dpr
forms
from
the
survey.
H
I
know
that
previous
hrpbs
have
talked
about
working
with
realtors
and
the
the
two
desert
agencies
or
listening
services.
H
So
I
I
would
like
to
revisit
that,
because
I
think
it
would
be
a
fairly
simple
process
to
go
down
the
class
three
lives
of
all
those
addresses
and
then
to
go
into
a
service
such
as
redfin
or
zillow.
And
then
we
would
get
a
notice
when
one
of
those
addresses
was
listed
for
sale
and
at
that
point,
that
could
trigger
sending
the
dpr
form
from
the
survey
to
that
listing
agent
and
asking
that
it
be
given
to
the
eventual
buyer.
B
Well,
the
class
iii
list
is
available
on
the
city's
website,
and
the
city
staff
has
done
a
number
of
outreach
efforts
to
the
real
estate
board
and
many
of
their
offices.
I've
spoken
at
their
weekly
meetings,
where
the
entire
real
estate
board
meets.
I've
also
met
in
several
of
their
individual
offices
and
presented
the
ordinances
and
the
listings
and
the
processes,
and
so
on,
to
to
work
up
a
system
as
you're
suggesting
of
some
type
of
automatic
notification.
B
B
A
D
We
we
won't
quote
you
dan,
thank
you
on
that.
So
is
there
any
further
comments
or
questions
for
staff
at
this
point
last
last,
one.
Okay,
so
is
the
applicant
here
and
wants
to
speak.
B
The
applicant
is
here,
mr
armistead,
if
you'd
like
to
turn
on
your
camera
and
unmute
your
mic.
D
E
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
of
some
of
the
questions
that
came
up
previously,
but
just
a
quick,
I'm
I'm
paul
armits
said
I'm
a
seattle,
architect,
40
years
of
experience-
and
I
all
I
can
tell
you
is
that
I
regret
that.
I
didn't
make
myself
aware
of
the
municipal
code.
We
used
poor
information
when
we
purchased
the
house
from
seattle
and
didn't
didn't
weren't,
aware
of
the
municipal
code
and
particularly
section
8.05,
which
I'm
very
aware
of
now.
E
I
sincerely
appreciate
ken's
work
to
educate
us,
but
also
what
I
really
want
to.
Let
you
know
is
that
we
truly
embrace
the
idea
and
do
believe
that
this
house
is
extremely
important
to
palm
springs
and
we're
working
towards
the
idea
of
restoring
it
to
make
it
very
historical,
and
we
talked
about
the
fact
that
maybe
we'd
be
putting
plaques
up
or
something
you
know.
E
The
last
of
these
things
can
be,
can
be
done
properly
as
we
move
forward
when
we
acquired
the
property,
we
saw
it
as
an
opportunity
to
rescue
it
from
we'd,
seen
it
and
been
through
it,
as
in
it,
had
been
neglected
and
used
as
a
mate
shift
museum
for
many
years,
and
we
thought
this
was
our
opportunity
to
restore
it
to
the
alexander
state
by
william
pricelight
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
william
pricel
when
I
did
another
one
of
his
houses
back
in
2016
down
in
fair
circle
and
and
he
was
presenting
his
book
lan.
E
William
chrysler
palm
springs
language
of
modernism
and
we
following
had
an
opportunity
to
discuss.
You
know
a
little
bit
about
the
restoration
of
his
kinds
of
work,
and
so
we
we
love
that
and
we
perceived.
We
sought
out
information
from
the
getty
museum,
we're
hoping
to
get
more
as
coded
loosens
things
up.
We
did
a
zoom
call
with
chris
minrad
and
and
subsequent
meetings
with
him
to
discuss
the
appropriateness
of
what
we
were
intending
to
do
with
the
house
and
the
most
important
historical
aspects
of
it.
He
was
very
thoughtful
and
helpful.
E
We
researched
the
magazines
and
the
publications
to
see
the
original
things
and
believe
it
or
not.
The
elvis's
honeymoon
videos
were
very
helpful
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
the
more
modern
history
of
why
this
house
was
never
been
able
to
be
sold
or,
or
you
know,
lived
in
appropriately
and
anyway.
With
that
in
mind,
my
bottom
line
here
is
number
one.
I've
got
a
goal,
a
request
and
a
hope.
E
We
thought
what
an
opportunity
you
know
when
we
when
we
got
it,
our
request
is
that
there
could
be
perhaps
a
conditional
stay
of
the
demolition
alteration
that
would
allow
us,
because
we
had
per
submitted
for
permit,
which
ken
wasn't
aware
of
for
the
interior
renovations
of
the
house,
and
that
permit
was
languishing.
E
You
know
and
waiting
we
were
told
it
was
going
to
be
an
over-the-counter
permit
and
done
done
as
an
ox.
We
didn't
know
about.
You
know
the
class
3
designation
and
we're
waiting
for
that
to
be
done.
Initially.
When
we
bought
the
house,
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be
an
aesthetic
renovation.
We
were
going
to
do.
You
know,
restore
the
sofa,
you
know
get
all
the
stuff
fixed
inside
the
house.
E
We
were
going
to
figure
out
how
to
preserve
those
windows,
and
it
wasn't
until
we
got
in
there,
that
we
realized
that
the
windows
were
going
to
have
to
be
replaced,
and
the
reason
being
is
is
because
none
of
the
lower
windows
are
our
tempered
glass.
E
The
single
pane
made
the
house
absolutely
unhabitable
uninhabitable
because
of
the
heat
gain
and
how
much
area,
and
so
we
worked
very
hard
to
put
together
ideas
and
proposals
to
absolutely
as
closely
as
possible,
with
double
glazing,
restore
the
the
house
with
with
modern
glazing
and
the
and
the
iconic
ceiling.
That's
going
to
read
on
through
is
all
custom
glazing
with
that
will
be
buried
into
the
soffit
and
the
ceilings.
E
My
hope
is
that,
and
the
title
24
is,
is,
is
going
to
be
ready
to
go
probably
later
this
week
and
that
would
be
part
of
our
building
permit
application,
which
was
initially
made
back
in
march
and
and
we
kept
asking
you
know
how
come
we
haven't
received
our
permit.
Why
where's
our
permit,
you
know,
and
we
got
ahead
of
ourselves
and
I
apologize.
E
Our
hope
is
that
we've,
given
that
we
somehow
with
the
materials
we
gave
can,
is
that
we
gave
you
enough
information
that
you
might
be
able
to
give
us
that
we
could
give
you
the
confidence
that
we
promise
and
and
assure
you
that
we
will
proceed
in
a
manner
that
was
appropriate
to
this
house
as
a
class
one
designation
and
and
will
implement
it
in
that
manner.
E
Our
original
goal
was
to
be
able
to
showcase
this
house
in
the
fall
of
october
october
15th
through
17th,
so
the
entire
public
could
come
through
it
and
see
it,
and-
and
so
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
we
embrace
what
you
do
and
what
your
position
is,
and
we
understand
why
it's
so
important
that
you're
there
to
protect
our
our
the
palm
springs
city,
and
we
will
do
work
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
this
house
is
done
properly.
E
So
the
conditional
stay
is
is,
is
my
request
so
that
we
can
move
forward
with
the
interiors.
The
issue
with
the
windows
is
all
the
windows
need
to
be
replaced,
removed
and
replaced
from
the
interior
of
the
house
to
protect
the
brake
shape,
forms
that
are
on
the
exterior
of
the
house
and
so
the
window.
You
know
with
the
60
foot
long
sofa,
that's
been
in
the
process
of
being
restored
right
now.
E
The
windows
need
to
happen
before
the
interiors
can
be
finished,
but
there
is
a
substantial
amount
of
interior
work,
getting
our
flooring,
fixed
and
and
cabinets,
and
things
like
that
and
I
can
get
into
whatever
detail.
You
like
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
and
I
put
myself
before
you
as
somebody
who
pledges
to
do
the
right
thing
from
this
point
forward.
D
Thank
you
for
your
expressing
your
your
your
good
intentions
and
your
your
dedication
and
passion
to
to
observe
you
know
all
the
standards
and
procedures
and,
of
course
today
you
know
our
our
mission
is
to
to
recommend
you
know
placing
a
stay
on
on
the
demolition,
the
property
and
then,
of
course,
directing
staff
to
initiate
an
application,
including
historic
resources.
D
I
can't
answer,
or
we
can't
answer
about
the
interior
at
this
meeting.
Perhaps
mr
lyon
might
make
a
statement
to
that
effect.
If
you
would
please.
B
B
Given
that
distinction,
what
mr
armistat
is
suggesting
is
that
he
would
like
the
board
to
issue
a
conditional
stay
of
demolition,
such
that
the
work
on
the
exterior
of
the
home
would
be
stayed.
They
could
not
move
forward
with
exterior
work,
but
he's
requesting
that
you
allow
him
to
continue
moving
forward
with
getting
a
building
permit
and
and
continuing
work
on
the
interior
of
the
home.
B
I
can
give
you
my
own
concern
or
opinion
that,
while
the
interior
is
not
subject
to
hspb
review
and
might
be
appropriate
to
allow
it
to
continue
the
window,
work
is
very
definitely
part
of
the
exterior
envelope
of
the
home
and
and
at
a
staff
level.
If
the
board
wishes
to
do
some
type
of
conditional
stay,
I
would
be
very
concerned
about
allowing
the
window
work
to
continue
primarily
because
it
really
is
the
exterior
skin
of
the
home
and
and
this
particular
structure.
B
It
represents
an
enormous
area
of
the
exterior
envelope
of
the
home.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
board
technically
can
do
a
conditional
stay.
I
discussed
this
with
with
mr
amistad
earlier
I
said
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that's
feasible
or
not,
but
if
you
chose
to
go
in
that
direction-
and
maybe
director
can
jump
in
with
any
of
his
insights
on
this,
but
I
I
would
be
worried
about
allowing
the
window
work
to
continue
at
this
time.
D
Okay,
any
any
other,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
I
Yes,
I
couldn't
agree
more
with
mr
lyon,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
if
the
board
doesn't
have
the
authority
over
interior
alterations,
then
a
conditional
stay
is
kind
of
moot,
because
we
can't
do
that
anyway.
But,
given
that
you
know
this
sort
of
mushing
up,
the
idea
of
the
windows
with
the
interiors
is
definitely
would
be
worrisome
to
me.
H
Yes
changing
course,
the
topic
a
little
bit
since
we're
able
to
discuss
this.
I
wanted
to
bring
up
three
distinct
points.
The
first
going
back
to
the
third
of
the
house,
and
I
went
to
the
listing
and
read
the
language
and
it
does
say
historic
home.
H
So
clearly,
when
miss
thomas
just
spoke,
he
knew
he
was
purchasing
a
historic
home,
so
just
leave
it
at
that.
The
lifting
agent
scott
houston
is
recently
named
by
thompson's
white
magazine
as
one
of
the
top
producing
agents
in
the
valley,
and
I
know
him
personally
and
he
takes
great
pride
in
marketing
and
selling
historic
properties.
H
Likewise,
the
buyer's
agent
mark
sanders
is
the
man
responsible
for
rescuing
and
restoring
defense
sinatra
house
in
palm
springs
on
the
lego
road,
also
one
of
the
top
producing
real
estate
agents
in
the
valley.
So
I
would
have
to
give
props
to
both
those
agents,
for
you
know
promoting
your
property
correctly,
I'm
I'm
confident
that
the
seller
knew
what
they
were
getting
and
excuse
me
to
buy.
I
knew
what
they
were
getting
on
that
note.
H
I
will
say
that
at
our
march
meeting
I
did
kind
of
make
a
warning
about
this
house,
and
lo
and
behold
it
came
true,
so
unfortunately
it
seems
like
a
lot
of,
despite
all
the
progress
that
came
from
with
that
ordinance
and
our
board.
H
A
lot
of
what
happened
today
is
still
reactionary
instead
of
proactive,
and
I
wish
there
was
a
way
that
we
could
just
weave
a
magic
wand
and
change
that
to
make
it
more
proactive,
there's
got
to
be
something
we
can
do,
maybe
at
an
annual
symposium
or
maybe
we
can
have
a
special
meeting.
H
There's
got
to
be
something
we
can
do
to
stop
this
cautionary
tale
of
all
this
reactionary
stuff
that
goes
on.
This
house
should
have
been
designated
a
long
long
long
ago,
and
the
local
organization
should
take
note
that
there
was
more
work
to
be
done.
H
That
wasn't
done,
and
it's
unfortunate
member
kaiser
said
that
this
has
to
come
out
of
our
budget
when
we
had
a
great
work
plan
for
five
or
six
other
properties
and
then,
finally,
just
to
say
in
reading
this
report
and
looking
at
all
the
photos
and
listening
to
the
architect,
I
would
like
to
commend
them
on
the
effort
that
they
are
attempting
to
undertake.
H
It
looks
like
they
are
really
sympathetic
to
the
house
and
they
really
have
the
heart
in
the
right.
I
know
firsthand
from
having
been
in
the
house
that
it
was
a
disgrace
and
going
outside
the
pool
area.
That
toronto
was
just
so
compromised.
B
H
H
In
this
case,
I
do
not
believe
that
toronto
is
any
longer
effective
outside,
mainly
because
that
is
the
west
part
of
the
house,
so
that
toronto
would
be
in
the
full
afternoon
sun
for
the
better
part
of
the
entire
day
and
sun
is
not
true
as
a
friend
just
like
water
isn't,
so
I
would
be
actually
in
favor
of
replacing
that
travel
with
the
brush
concrete
that
they
have
proposed
just
as
a
more
practical,
long-term
alternative
plus
having
toronto
around
the
pool
gets
very,
very
hot
and
just
a
lot
of
maintenance.
H
I
know
people
who've
had
these
floors
outside
and
it's
just
impossible
to
deal
with.
So
that's
one
thing
that
I
can
give
the
applicant
points
for
among
many
others,
and
that's
really
everything
I
have
at
this
time.
Okay,.
D
And
I
know
we'll
be
addressing
those
materials
and
uses
at
a
different
time,
but
today
you
know
we're
looking
at
the
recommendation,
for
you
know
the
place
of
state,
you
know
for
demolition,
demolition
and
then
direct
staff
to
initiate
you
know
the
application.
You
know
for
historic
resources.
So
is
there
any
more
discussion,
mrs
dixon.
F
I
have
one
question
of
mr
amistad,
mr
amistad.
You
will
be
the
one
that
will
benefit
if
this
house
is
designated
a
class
one
historic
site.
Would
you
be
willing
to
pay
for
the
historic.
E
E
The
reality
of
this
house
is
that
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
the
windows
are
costing
and
the
fact
that
they're
on
order
and
obviously
that's
going
to
impact
us
to
cancel
the
order
on
the
windows
and
and
lose
our
deposits.
E
But
yes,
yes,
I
would
certainly
entertain
that
because
I
embrace
what
you
guys
do
I
you
know
I.
I
can
only
tell
you
that
I'm
not
going
to
throw
anybody
under
the
bus
that
worked
with
us
on
this
pro
project
when
we
were
buying
it.
E
I've
been
around
the
block
long
enough
to
know
you
know
I
mean
I
I
restored
one
of
chrysler's
houses
back
in
2017.
We
did
another
house
in
2018
and
and
honestly
the
historic
aspect
of
either
of
those
never
came
up,
and
I
just
you
know
from
cfr.
I
I
apologize
so
yes,
I
would
entertain
that.
Certainly.
F
D
You
thank
you
for
your,
your
your
patience
and
your
your
intent
to
to
do
good
work
here
and
I'm
sure
that
mr
lyon
can
speak
to
you
about
that,
and
and
maybe
we
could
move
forward
in
that
direction.
So
any
other
comments
or
questions
before
we
proceed
in
any
last
words.
H
Yes,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
file
a
staff
recommendation
that
the
hsbb
plays
a
day
of
demolition
or
alteration
on
the
property
pursuant
to
municipal
care,
section,
8.05.030
and
direct
staff
to
initiate
an
application,
including
historic
resource
report,
possibly
to
be
paid
for
by
the
applicant
in
order
to
determine
the
eligibility
of
the
property
of
the
class
1
historic
site
and
to
present
the
findings
at
a
notice.
Hearing
of
the
hspb.
D
D
This
is
the
2021
preservation
matters
symposium,
but
first
of
all
I
would
like
to
congratulate
deck
burqat
and
his
team
of
many
wonderful
experts
for
for
launching
a
fabulous
virtual
symposium.
I
know
it's
it's
very
successful
and
so
great,
and
so
I'd
like
to
invite
mr
burqat
to
give
us
a
report.
C
It
would
be
my
pleasure
and
before
I
start
I
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
the
board
again
for
the
important
dialogue
that
you've
had
with
these
discussions
tonight,
I'm
very
very
encouraged
and
yeah
kudos
to
all
of
you,
so
I'm
also
very
happy
to
talk
about
the
the
event
success
for
this
year.
You
know
we
went
into
this
doing
it.
Virtual
we'd
never
done
that
before.
So
we
had
no
idea.
That
was
another
whole
experience
with
a
lot
of
recording
that
we
took.
E
C
But
I
don't
think
to
the
point
that
we
thought
it
would
take,
but
the
good
news
is
that
we
ended
up
with
420
registrations
for
this
year's
event
and
the
majority
of
those
indicated
just
one
registration.
However,
as
I
received
a
notification
each
time
there
was
a
registration,
there
were
numerous
familiar
names
that
I'm
competent,
the
spouse
or
the
partner
would
also
be
viewing
the
event.
C
So
if
one
were
to
take
as
a
conservative
estimate-
let's
say,
33
percent
of
the
registration
registrants,
there
were
two
viewing
viewing
the
event.
This
would
equate
to
558
pairs
of
eyeballs.
C
C
So
from
that
standpoint,
I'm
delighted
to
make
this
report
also
the
stats
from
the
city
I.t
department,
as
to
the
number
of
views
as
of
monday,
was
719,
but
putting
that
in
into
context
very
likely
attendees
were
watching
in
segments,
which
is
what
we
were
hoping
that
they
would
do
from
a
marketing
viewpoint.
C
C
So
once
again,
I
just
want
to
mention
the
power
of
the
local
organizations
as
being
major
contributors
with
their
e-blast
and
newsletters
every
time,
and
I
watched
it
carefully
each
day
I
noted
when
there
was
an
e-blast
by
an
organization
up,
went
to
registrations,
so
I
went
back
through
and
did
a
calculation
and
on
that
basis
of
the
records
I
kept
and
those
organizations
accounted
for
about
40
of
our
total
registrations.
C
C
Also,
there
was
a
great
response
from
the
e-blast
that
was
sent
to
the
2018-2019
attendees
and
we
were
able
to
combine
those
two
years
as
far
as
the
regis
the
attendees
were
concerned,
and
to
eliminate
all
duplications.
So
then
what
can
happen
then?
This
year,
you'll
be
able
to
add
the
2021,
and
you
will
have
a
really
great
composite
to
work
with
and
going
forward
to
promote
the
event
coming
up.
Actually,
we
sent
out
event
invitations
to
37
different
sources,
so
we
also,
we
were
very
fortunate.
C
So,
just
in
closing,
we've
received
a
proposal
forum
presentation
for
the
2022
event
already
and
in
listening
to
your
deliberations
tonight
I
see
an
opportunity
for
a
presentation
on
lake
modern
in
2022,
so
there
you
go.
You
already
got
two
on
the
boards
to
look
take
a
look
at
so
it's
definitely
a
team
effort
and
thanks
again
for
the
subcommittee,
catherine
and
dan,
along
with
our
council,
which
was
very
very
important
from
ken
and
flynn
and
david
newell
and
the
city's
I.t
staff
and
then
having
deborah
and
richard.
C
I
just
want
to
say
again,
handling
the
production
makes
a
huge
difference
in
the
success
of
the
event,
they're
truly
masters,
and
I'm
very
grateful
that
the
city
has
continued
to
allow
us
to
have
this
event
and
supported
it
so
gang
here's
to
a
successful
2022
preservation
matters
back
at
the
convention
center
with
the
tours
and
after
celebration.
So
I'll
see
you
there.
D
Give
a
big
hand
to
mr
burqat
wow,
you
just
well
wow
wow,
what
a
great
success
and
what
a
wonderful
production
it
I
knew
you
worked
on
it
for
well
well,
what
two
years
yeah
almost
you
worked
on
it
for
two
years,
so
now
it
was
a
lot
of
labor
and
and
for
for
education,
education,
education.
So
we
can't
thank
you
enough
and
and
so
you're
on
the
you're
at
the
top
of
the
list
on
the
committee
for
next
year.
D
H
D
So
so
that
completes
our
agenda
for
today
and
are
there
any
comments
from
the
board?
No,
mr
nelson.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
two
things:
the
first
about
vincent
mush
who
passed
away
in
february,
and
he
was
a
former
hspb
member.
H
There
was
an
estate
sale
in
march
at
his
home
in
rocket
club
garden
villas,
and
I
was
able
to
go
to
that
and
told
a
few
other
people
who
were
able
to
go
last
minute.
Unfortunately,
it
wasn't
very
well
publicized,
but
mr
marsh
had
a
huge
collection
of
incredible
volumes
of
books
related
to
architecture
preservation.
H
You
name
it.
I
was
just
flabbergasted
and
overwhelmed
I
mean
it
was
just
so
overwhelming.
I
couldn't
believe
it.
I
managed
to
get
five
or
six
books,
but
in
one
of
the
rooms
there
were
piles
and
piles
from
titles
that
said
that
they
were
meant
to
go
to
cal
poly
and
the
survivors
were
so
overwhelmed,
which
is
the
state
and
with
the
collection
that
he
had
and
with
kobet
they
weren't
able
to
get
things
allocated
properly.
H
So
the
reason
I'm
bringing
this
up
is
because
I
know
that
the
city
has
a
reference
library
that
mr
lyon
has
there
in
the
planning
office,
and
it
is
my
understanding
that
city
staff
consults
these
periodicals
and
books
and
reference
materials
and
that
hsp
board
members
can
go
in
and
look
at
such
materials
upon
request.
H
So
I
would
ask
that
in
the
future,
when
we
have
board
members,
if
we
somehow
figure
out
a
way
or
ask
if
they
would
be
willing
to
donate,
you
know
a
small
percentage
of
their
collection
as
pertain
to
clemson's
architecture
and
history,
to
the
city,
to
add
to
that
reference
library.
H
So
that's
just
a
thought
and
then
the
other
thing
is
whether
or
not
there's
an
update
on
the
rocket
club.
At
our
last
meeting
city
staff
had
said
that
they
were
communicating
with
the
owners
to
develop
a
demolition
plan
with
a
non-contributing
building,
and
I
would
just
like
to
get
an
update
on
that,
if
possible.
Also,
supposedly,
there
was
a
small
fire
at
the
rocket
club
recently,
I
know
don't
know
if
it
is
definitely
shed
any
light
on
that,
and
that's
all
from
me.
D
Okay,
just
regarding
the
library,
if
I
can
ask
mr
lyon,
so
the
the
city
of
palm
springs
did,
does
it,
it
does
have
a
library.
Do
you
catalog
your
books?
Is
it
a
I?
I
know
you
don't
probably
have
a
librarian.
D
Is
there
a
staff
person
that
tends
to
that
those
books
at
the
city?
I
I
don't
happen
to
know.
B
Well,
we
don't
really
have
a
library
per
se.
As
a
member
nelson,
characterized,
we
have
a
very,
very
limited
number
of
various
books.
Most
of
my
reference
material
that
I
use
comes
from
my
own
collection.
B
I've
got
quite
a
few
books
on
palm
springs
and,
of
course,
as
a
licensed
architect,
I've
got
my
own
piles
and
piles
of
books.
So
I
tend
to
use
those
quite
a
bit
I
had
heard,
although
I'm
not,
I
don't
have
any
verification
of
it,
but
I
had
heard
that
mr
marsha's
books
were
going
to
be
donated
to
the
palm
springs
library.
B
Now
I
don't
know
if
that
took
place
or
not,
but
I
had
I
had
initially
learned
of
vincent's
passing
from
jeannie
case
the
library
director,
because
she
had
been
contacted
by
the
estate
asking
if
the
library
wanted
them.
So
I
don't
know
if
his
books
actually
went
to
cal
poly
or
whether
they
went
to
the
palm
springs
library,
but
hopefully
they
did
find
a
home
where
they
can
be
referenced
by
members
of
the
public.
D
And
then
two
two
other
libraries
that
I
want
to
mention
is
you
know
the
college
of
the
college
of
the
desert.
You
know
they
have
a
library
and
a
librarian
and
you
know,
have
have
a
good
collection
and
of
course
the
palm
springs.
D
Art
museum
has
a
library
and
we
have
a
whole
section
on
architecture
and
design
and
and
cataloged
and
referenced,
and
and
and
all
that
so
so
there
is,
there
are
other
resources
within
our
city
being
those
that
I
I've
named
so
just
wanted
to
comment
on
that.
B
Yes,
in
response
to
member
nelson's
inquiry,
we
have
reached
out,
I
actually
put
out
a
third
email
to
the
owners
of
the
iraqi
club
seeking
their
input
on
the
proposed
demolition
plan,
and
I
have
not
heard
back
yet
from
them,
but
we
still
are
trying
to
get
information
from
them
about
what
the
demolition
plan
is
likely
to
be.
B
I
had
heard
rumor
that
there
was
a
small
fire
there,
but
I
don't
know
any
of
the
details
about
that.
So
if
anybody
here
in
the
meeting
knows
something
about
that,
you're
welcome
to
share
it,
but
I
do
not
have
any
other
information
about
it.
B
B
Listening
to
the
conversations
about
informa,
informing
the
real
estate
committee,
it
may
be
appropriate
for
us
to
reach
out
again
to
the
board
of
realtors
and
see
if
they
would
be
interested
in
us
giving
another
presentation.
Maybe
we
need
to
do
this
annually
or
biannually
in
order
to
help
inform
their
members
of
the
city's
preservation
ordinance
so
that
we
can
avoid
situations
that
we
have
here
with
the
ladera
circle
house.
B
It's
it's
nobody
likes
having
these
kinds
of
things
occur
and
it's
it's
painful
for
everybody
involved
to
deal
with
things
when
they've
been
taken
on
without
permits
and
approval.
So
maybe
it's
time
for
us
to
go
back
out
and
do
our
dog
and
pony
show
with
the
real
estate
in
the
community.
B
I
think
that's
the
extent
of
my
comments.
I
I
see
flynn's
come
on,
so
maybe
flynn
has
some
additional
things.
A
Yes,
I
do
mr
lyon,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
board,
just
speaking
to
the
topic
of
the
department
library
I
have
in
my
office
a
very
small
collection
but
growing
of
reference
materials
on
palm
springs
and
would
be
happy
to
add
to
that
collection
and
make
it
available
to
anyone
who
wanted
to
borrow
it
again.
It
is
a
small
collection,
but
other
than
that.
There
were
also
comments
made
about
the
budget
for
historic
preservation.
A
As
many
of
you
are
aware,
our
budget
was
cut
substantially,
and
so
we've
had
very
little
funding
this
year,
but
happy
to
report
that
as
of
july
1st,
we
do
anticipate
that
our
budget
will
be
restored,
and
so
that
will
give
us
the
opportunity
to
begin
the
historic
resource
reports
on
those
items
that
the
board
has
placed
on
their
list.
D
Any
other
discussion
anything
so
seeing
no
further
discussions.
The
meeting
of
the
historic
site
preservation
board
is
adjourned
to
the
regular
meeting
of
tuesday
june
1st
at
5
30
p.m.