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Although
the
Commission
values
your
comments
soon
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
act
or
have
discussion
on
any
of
the
items
listed
and
posted
onion
on
the
agenda,
not
posted
on
the
agenda,
so
three
minutes
are
assigned
to
each
speaker
and
if
you
want
to
come
forward,
anybody
who
would
like
to
speak
and
sit
at
this
chair
right
here
and
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
push
the
button
to
put
the
green
light
on
when
you
speak.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
F
I
am
gary
hunter.
A
resident
of
this
fine
city
can
I
begin
good
afternoon,
and
thank
you
for
taking
my
time
and
your
your
time
in
the
discussion
of
the
the
fate
of
the
two
tennis
courts
over
at
DeMuth
Park,
recently
NBC
News
reported
that
pickleball
is
the
fastest-growing
sport
in
our
country.
According
to
the
USA
pickleball
Association,
the
sport
continues
to
grow
at
about
12%
last
year
with
membership
and
its
Association
topping
300,000.
F
F
This
is
still
a
sport
for
the
50-plus
year
old,
who
doesn't
still
have
the
ability
to
run
around
a
tennis
court.
They
were
tennis
player
but
loves
the
similar
skill
and
competition
of
pickleball.
There's
also
for
those
who
want
to
have
a
fun
social
outlet
is
for
what
men
and
women
of
all
ages
to
come
together:
men
and
women
of
all
races
and
beliefs
and
political
affiliations
that
share
this
common
fun.
Wonderful
interest.
G
Hi,
my
name
is
Dave
Pocket
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Palm
Springs
pickleball
Club,
as
Gary
was
saying.
We
have
a
league
now
that
we're
playing
over
there
we've
got
a
women's
team
and
a
men's
team.
We're
renting
the
courts
for
tournaments
on
a
regular
basis
now,
as
Vicki
could
probably
attend
to,
because
we
do
the
paperwork
with
her
every
time
that
we
rent
the
courts.
So
the
courts
are
starting
to
generate
a
little
bit
of
revenue
right
now.
G
What
we're
having
to
do
is
rent
the
whole
facility
and
go
in
and
tape
temporary
courts
with
painters
tape,
and
then
we
peel
that
tape
up
when
we're
done
on
the
four
courts
that
our
tennis
court.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
a
grueling
ordeal.
I
have
to
get
up
at
5:00
5:30
in
the
morning
to
get
there
early
and
get
those
done
so
that
we
can
start
our
play
at
7:30
when
we
do
a
tournament,
so
it
would
be
great
to
have
those
courts
converted
over
and
have
pickleball
at
Duluth
Park
exclusively.
G
The
valley
is
getting
very
famous
for
pickleball
just
recently
the
US,
which
is
the
governing
body
for
United
States
pickleball,
just
signed
a
five-year
contract
with
the
Indian
Wells
Tennis
Gardens,
to
bring
our
national
championship
to
the
Coachella
Valley,
which
is
going
to
generate
millions
of
dollars
of
revenue
for
the
valley
here
over
the
next
five
years.
So
we
have
three
big
tournaments
a
year,
as
tennis
does
and
they're
going
to
generate
quite
a
bit
of
income
for
the
Coachella
Valley.
So
this
sport
is
really
taking
off
national
television.
G
Cbs
has
had
us
on
their
network
now
three
times
and
they
will
have
a
crew
here
in
November
of
this
year
for
the
national
championships.
So
this
sport
is
really
taking
off
and
we're
getting
a
lot
of
younger
people
coming
into
the
sport
who
used
to
play
tennis
that
maybe
are
not
ranked
heavily
in
tennis
anymore.
We
have
a
pro
division
now
that
where
they
play
for
money,
so
they're
coming
over
and
actually
earning
a
living
playing
pickleball.
So
this
is
not
only
a
United
States
sport.
G
It's
an
international
sport,
that's
going
all
across
the
world
and
we
hope
someday
to
have
it
into
the
Olympics,
but
that's
down
the
road.
But
for
me
it
gets
me
off
the
couch.
It
gets
me
out.
There
gets
exercise
socially
I
get
to
meet
new
people
all
the
time.
It's
just
a
fantastic
sport,
that's
a
very
social
experience
as
well
as
a
great
sport.
So
anything
you
could
do
to
expedite
getting
some
more
courts
for
us
either
build
them
or
convert
them
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Did.
B
C
B
Hold
that
in
the
event
he
comes
in,
we
can
have
him
drop
in.
We
wanted
to
do
an
update
on
a
couple
of
the
ad
hoc
committees,
but
today's
meeting
we're
gonna
spend
the
most
of
the
time
going
over
the
the
fees,
as
we
are
on
a
trajectory
to
get
that
done
and
get
it
to
Council,
hopefully
during
the
month
of
March,
but
we'd
like
to
get
through
as
much
of
that
as
we
can
today.
So
if
we
can
have
an
update
on
the
dog
park,
let's
go
ahead
and
start
with
that.
C
H
Well,
basically,
the
first
thing
that
I
want
to
point
out
is
I'm
sure,
you've
gotten
the
feedback
that
we
have
the
condition
of
the
dog
bark
right
now,
especially
on
the
small
side
that
grass
is
already
starting
to
brown
up
a
little
bit.
We
have
a
pretty
long
run
in
the
middle
of
the
large
dog
park
that
we're
trying
to
section
off
today.
Actually
it's
the
low
spot
and
it
tends
to
gather
a
lot
of
the
irrigation
and
it's
also
a
really
good
natural
dog,
run
back
and
forth
back
and
forth.
H
It's
basically
between
fields,
7,
&
8,
it
doesn't
does
not
have
amenities,
it
doesn't
have
shade.
It's
not
got
grass,
it's
not
pretty
it's
not
irrigated,
it
does
have
a
water
source,
and
now
it
has
a
fence.
So
we're
hoping
that
when
we
start
doing
some
of
the
we're
looking
probably
to
have
the
maintenance
for
the
grass
over
here
at
least
three
times
a
year.
Initially,
we
really
love
to
just
do
the
over
seating.
H
B
Question
for
you,
Stacey
is
there
I
mean
the
the
we
just
had
the
park
redesigned
here.
So
are
we
out
of
like
length
of
time
relative
to
the
contract
to
come
back
and
say
you
built
the
park
and
it's
great,
except
it
has
a
swill
in
it
that
fills
up
with
water
that
wasn't
part
of
the
design.
Are
we
able
to
go
back
and
maybe
recoup
on
any
of
that,
because
it's
it's
never
gonna
get
better?
It's
gonna
gather
water
regularly.
So
the.
H
That
low
spot-
and
yes,
it
has
come
back
and
reoccurred.
It
was
actually
when
he
finished
when
the
contractor
finished
and
he
laid
the
new
sod.
All
of
that
was,
it
was
tamp
down.
It
was
even
the
base.
Everything
was
appropriate,
it's
twofold
one.
We
have
trees,
it's
just
a
natural
slope
there
to
begin
with,
and
then,
of
course,
the
increased
traffic
has
made
it
exaggerated
the
situation.
It's
not
necessarily
the
contractor
as
much
as
the
way
we
use
it.
I
So
I
have
some
questions
about
I
understand
the
space
you're
talking
about,
but
it's
not
gonna
be
fenced
off
for
small
dogs
so
that
space,
if
we're
gonna
close
the
dog
park
three
times
a
year,
is
basically
unusable
for
small
dogs
and,
if
you
go
to
the
small
dog
area
at
our
dog
park
is
probably
the
most
heavily
used.
Space
I
would
argue
in
the
in
the
city
park
land.
I
If
you
look
at
usage
and
square
footage
so-
and
it
also
has
a
higher
degree
of
elderly
people
who
take
their
dog
there,
who
can't
exercise
their
dog.
So
if
we're
talking
about
because
of
the
grass
closing
this
three
times
a
year,
we're
talking
about
closing
small
dog
options
for
people
in
the
city
for
a
long
period
of
time.
So
is
there
a
possible
defense
that
area?
So
we
have
a
small
dog
area.
I
The
other
question
was
a
comment
to
us:
is
there
something
we
could
do
with
the
maintenance
of
the
dog
park
right
now
with
power
washing
underneath
the
the
benches,
because
they're
just
really
they
get
really
dirty
and
smelly
and
people
are
having
to
take
little
bowls
and
try
to
to
wash
it,
and
it
doesn't
seem
that
the
maintenance
people
are
taking
care
of
that,
and
actually
the
third
thing
about
it.
The
last
meeting
that
large
sign
that
was
put
on
the
dog
park
about
that's
about
no
digging.
I
H
Okay,
starting
with
number
one,
the
small
dog
park
when
we
closed
that,
we
work
with
the
animal
shelter
for
the
fence,
it's
across
the
street
from
them
and
DeMuth.
That's
what
we've
always
anticipated
having
small
dogs
or
when
we're
doing
the
maintenance.
What
we've
done
historically
is
rent
additional
fencing
and
kind
of
wrap
around
that
for
the
large
dogs,
that's
really
expensive
and
it
it
doesn't
satisfy
the
needs
more
or
less
there's
just
not
enough
space
for
large
dogs.
H
I
was
hoping
going
forward
that
we
could
continue
to
utilize
that
we
did
have
a
request
from
the
Friends
of
the
animal
shelter
to
have
that
removed
for
an
event
that
they
have
coming
up.
But
if
we
have
that
is
actually
sunk
in
and
we
would
have
to
rip
up
the
sod
and
area
around
that-
and
that
was
one
of
the
points
that
I
was
seeking
advice
from
this
body
on
how
to
proceed
with
that,
because
potentially
that
eliminates
the
overflow
for
the
small
dog
park.
H
As
for
potentially
adding
additional
sections
inside
the
7/8
fields,
that's
possibility.
I!
Don't
have
a
budget
to
do
anything
beyond
what
I've
done.
This
was
basically
good
maintenance
and
repair
issue
for
us
going
forward
and
that's
something
that
this
body
could
make
recommendations
on
or
suggestions.
I
also
have
mrs.
Baran
here,
she's
the
money,
lady.
D
D
A
Yes,
okay,
so
super
good
points
and
questions
and
Harriet
thanks
for
being
here,
my
pleasure
and
I
think
something
that
you
bring
forward
for
consideration.
Is
we
had
a
off-site
I
had
talked
meeting
for
the
retreat
yesterday
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
what
the
Friends
of
model
looks
like
and
what
is
possible
as
a
as
a
brand
for
Friends
of
Parks
and
Rec
and
and
how
it
might
be
an
umbrella
and
possible
sub
category
so
that
we
could
go
into
the
community
and
look
for
additional
resources.
D
A
Just
actually
say
something
about
the
temporary
space
and
Stacy
I'm,
going
to
just
hats
off
I
mean
for
just
you
know,
having
an
urgent
situation
that
needed
attention
and
looking
at
places
in
the
city
and
being
able
to
solve
some
problems
so
removing
potential
dumping
areas
taking
and
I've
been
there
multiple
times
by
field,
seven
and
I'm,
using
a
space
and
figuring
out
some.
You
know
how
it
within
your
budget
you're
able
to
to
make
certain
things
work.
A
So
we
did
have
a
meeting
and
we
actually
talked
about
what
it
would
look
like
to
create
a
more
sustainable
plan
for
that
space,
especially
if
the
city
hall,
dog
park
needs
to
be
closed
three
times
a
year
and
because
of
the
what
one
might
think
of
as
a
snag,
foo
that
the
Friends
of
the
animal
shelter
wants
to
remove
their
space,
which
was
the
ideal
overflow
and
the
cost
and
the
expense.
What
you
know,
how
what
could
we
provide
our
small
dog
park
patrons
and
so
there's
an
area
in
Duluth?
A
That
is
a
former
playground
area.
That's
a
sand
area
that
really
could
be
ideal
for
the
small
park
overflow,
which
could
also
be
used
for
future
animal
shelter.
So
it's
very
close
proximity-
and
you
know
once
the
tents
are
down
for
their
event,
it
would
go
back
to
a
natural.
You
know
kind
of
organic
park
experience
so
Travis.
You
brought
up
some
good
things
and,
and
there
we've
kind
of
addressed
those.
A
The
real
question
is:
is
you
know
our
recommendation
like
what
would
parks
and
recs
recommendation
be
back
to
mark
asking
it
back
to
city
managers,
so
that
stacey
has
some
support
in
moving
this
idea
forward
and
I'm
not
saying
necessarily
come
out
of
M&O
budget,
but
look
at
things
at
the
city
that
we
could
repurpose
and
reuse
to
populate
those
dog
areas
that
already
might
be
existing
so
that
the
there's
not
really
an
additional
expense.
The
fencing
for
the
Animal
Shelter
will
let
the
friends
the
animal
shelter
deal
with
that,
but
I
think
moving
forward.
A
We
also
talked
about
the
signage
which
was
in
our
last
month's
meeting
and
the
digging
sign
and
in
the
meeting
that
we
had
for
the
ad-hoc
committee
for
the
retreat,
there's
ample
time
and
opportunity
to
really
dig
deep
into
conversations
around.
What
would
campaigns
look
like?
What
would
blending
community
public
and
private
funds
look
like,
and
so
there
would
be
lots
of
opportunity
on
March
17th
we're
meeting
Harriet.
We
can
send
you
an
invitation,
it's
just
strictly
brainstorming
when
we
think
ideas
will
come
out
of
that,
and
recommendations
can
be
made.
A
B
H
No,
that's
not
the
direction
that
we
they
came
to
the
Sept
meeting
and
they're,
proposing
a
fundraiser
event,
a
much
larger
scale
than
they've
done
before,
which
is
great
and
they're.
Basically
looking
at
putting
two
forty
by
eighty
tents,
which
would
be
right
in
that
same
area
I'm.
My
honest
opinion,
I
discussed
this
with
the
assistant
city
manager.
H
He
wanted
me
to
come
back
to
this
group
as
a
whole
before
I
even
go
back
to
meet
with
them
again
to
see
if
you
have
an
appetite
for
us,
ripping
that
out
the
if
we
rip
this
out.
This,
of
course,
has
concrete
it's
sunk,
we're
gonna
have
to
do
sorry,
etc.
If
we
rip
this
out,
would
we
replace
this
Minette
new
dog
parks?
What
what
would
we
be
doing
going
forward?
I
think.
B
A
timeframe
and
I
have
we
looked
at
DeMuth
Park
to
see
if
those
two
tents
for
one
day
can
be
placed
elsewhere
in
a
logical
place,
because
there
are
some
reasonably
flat
places,
they're
not
going
to
be
necessarily
hands
reach
to
the
to
the
animal
shelter.
But
there
are
other
places
within
the
park
which
I
think
would
be
logical
and.
H
Again,
it
was
first
blush
that
they
came
with
their
plans
and
there
are
several
layers
of
approval
they're
going
through
the
main
reason
they
tend
to
they
have
to
a
year.
The
main
reason
they
tend
him
do
them
right.
There
is
because
they
provide
tours
of
the
shelter
during
the
events,
but
that's
not
to
say
they
wouldn't
be
willing
to
reconsider
a
relocate,
but
I
wanted
to
start
here
before
I
went
back
to
them.
Miss.
H
E
B
I
I
C
No,
it's
a
temporary
park
that
we
put
up
when
we
originally
did
the
over
seating
into
the
park.
We
put
the
temporary
site
at
the
most
communities
at
the
doing
Park
the
last
time
that
we
had
put
it
up
and
prior
to
coming
down
the
animal
shelter
to
ask
if
we
could
leave
it
there
in
place
until
they
could
build
their
facility
at
the
back
of
their
site
right.
That
was
never
done.
C
C
C
I
Not
completely
memory,
but
that
was
put
up
as
a
temporary
dog
park
and
then
it
was
taken
over
without
with
some
controversy
by
the
animal
shelter.
So
now
are
you
saying
the
animal
shelter
wants
to
take
down
this
fencing
and
which
is
to
be
used
permanently
as
a
alternative
for
some
event
on
parkland.
C
C
I
With
that's
just
so
kind
of
amazing
to
me,
but
you
know
it
goes
back
to
my
initial
question:
I'm
still
not
I'm,
still
very
confused
about.
What's
gonna
happen
to
the
small
dogs,
you
know
we
can't
mix
them.
Small
dogs
would
I,
be
killed,
hopefully,
animal
shelter.
Folks,
who
understand
that
you
know
once
we
adopt
the
dogs
and
I've
doctored,
my
dogs
from
there
that
we
need
places
for
them
to
to
go
to
so
I
mean
I.
I
Just
think
that
that's
kind
of
amazing
thing
but
I
do
want
to
go
back
since
we
have
the
grant
manager
here.
I
mean
the
idea.
You
know
the
dog
park
community
has
organized
it
differently
than
other
communities,
women,
communities,
think
of
all
associations.
It's
loosely
organized
in
a
grassroots
group.
I
The
community.
There
is
not
maybe
often
agree.
That's
engaged
the
way
other
people
are
or
the
organization's
our
source
really
may
not
be
a
good
candidate.
I,
don't
think
it's
a
cure-all
if
you're
looking
for
tons
of
money
from
the
dog
park
community
because
there's
not
like
a
dog
park,
Association
I,
think
there's
to
take
a
ball
association.
Things
like
that.
H
H
Run
a
little
short
on
time
being
the
initial
thought
them
for
me
was.
Actually.
We
were
looking
to
utilize
that
in
the
next
few
weeks
for
fertilizer
over
here,
not
not
big
giant
shutdowns
over
seating,
just
a
few
weeks
to
give
it
a
little
break
and
fertilize
so
I
might
have
to
escalate
that
timeline.
If
we
end
up
taking
this
down
chemistry.
E
C
The
city
more,
we
branched
as
it
paid
for
the
installation,
the
water
hookup
everything
it
needed
to
be
an
option.
It
was
much
larger
than
what
what
it
is
right
now
because
it
had
a
small
sign
in
the
large
side.
So
when
we
rented
the
fence
scene
from
Jane
of
construction-
and
it
was
only
for
a
period
of
time
because
again,
it
was
suppose
to
be
taken
down
as
soon
as
the
dog
park
opened
and
when
the
dock
work
was
opening.
C
That's
when
the
animal
shelter
who
asked
the
city
to
please
leave
it
up
for
another
couple
weeks
a
month,
so
we
can
build
our
facility
in
the
back,
so
we
have
a
meet
and
greet
on
property
and
that
never
happened
so
that
that
fin
seemed
just
stayed
there
and
Jim
never
requested
it
back.
We
didn't
offer
it
to
them
and
then
I
guess.
In
the
meantime,
the
animal
shelter
had
conversations
with
Jin
of
construction
George
Marantz
and
he
gave
them
the
fencing
said.
E
C
J
C
J
J
The
other
question
I
have
is
and
I
have
dogs
I,
don't
take
them
to
the
dock
park
because
I
have
a
yard
and
I
take
them
where
I'm
at
but
I'm
wondering
I,
don't
know
how
feasible
that
is
or
if,
as
someone
who
goes
frequently
to
the
dog
park,
but
would
it
be
worth
an
investment
in
the
artificial
turf
to
put
into
the
dog
park
or
is
that
nasty
to
do
I
I?
Don't
know
our
dog
park
aficionados,
but
I'm
thinking?
That
would
be
a
hole.
B
A
A
A
It
will
be
more
expensive
than
if
they
put
the
artificial
turf
in
and
and
then
reduce
their
maintenance
costs
and
expenses,
and
actually
the
ability
to
cool,
artificial
turf
by
hosing
would
be
less
expensive
than
closing
three
times
a
year
receding
and
having
to
counter
all
these
problems,
but
and
it
and
the
mayor
moon
actually
even
brought
a
sample
of
turf
to
the
meetings,
so
it
really
was
dictated
by
the
community.
That
was
my
experience.
I.
B
A
So
I
can
make
a
recommendation.
Our
motion
and
we'll
hear
what
you
have
to
say
so
I
would
make
a
motion
that
Stacy
M&O
goes
backs
and
looks
at
other
areas
and
do
mirth
to
see
if
there
might
be
an
appropriate
space
that
wouldn't
require
the
removal
of
the
small
dog
park.
That
would
be
my
first
suggestion
in
motion.
A
B
A
I
understand,
there's
a
timeline
involved
and
you
might
not
be
able
to
wait
four
more
weeks
for
another
meeting
to
be
able
to
bring
that
back
and
so
I
would
say
on
a
second
motion
that
you,
if
you're
able
to
also
get
an
estimate
for
removal
and
repair
and
then
an
estimate,
because
we're
gonna
need
a
small
dog
park
for
the
old
playground
area
and
establishing
that
as
a
small
dog
park,
and
those
would
be
two
estimates,
I
would
request.
I
think
we
can.
Probably
that
would
be
my
motion
in.
H
I'll
also
include
an
email
to
Vicki,
regardless
of
whether
we
do
or
do
not
take
that
fence
down.
I
really
would
like
to
have
consideration
to
potentially
close
for
at
least
two,
maybe
three
weeks,
both
dog
parks
with
the
temporary
setup
that
we
have
right
now
and
muth
as
soon
as
we
get
the
water
fountain
installed,
and
then
the
same
thing
will
coordinate
with
the
animal
shelter
to
have
the
small
dog
park
available
for
small.
Yes,.
A
B
J
B
H
H
B
B
B
D
B
And
Commissioner
Goodman
is
going
to
drive
her
car,
which
will
have
us
yeah
ii,
see.
So
if
somebody
can
sit
with
commissioner
Goodman
and
I
have
a
Thunderbird
convertible
that
comes
with
a
driver,
so
I
will
sit
in
the
seat
there.
So
we
have
four
five
and
I'm
the
six,
so
we
are
covered
I'm,
sure,
Jody,
you're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
view
with.
J
J
J
B
A
D
A
B
J
D
B
B
The
next
item
on
the
schedule
is
the
recreation
program
fees
and
the
ad
hoc
committee
that
worked
on
it
was
gonna
start
rent
commissioner
Armstrong
and
myself
and
Commissioner
sorry
pace,
and
he
has
some
of
the
he's.
Gonna
take
the
lead
on
this.
All
of
this
covers
both
both
items.
Vicki
or
is
this
just
the
rental
side?
The.
G
E
But
it
would
be
at
a
completely
different
Center.
We
had
a
couple
of
recommendations
to
approach
that
and
the
first
one
was
a
kind
of
citywide
membership
program.
Each
of
the
community
centers
currently
has
their
own
separate
annual
membership
that
people
pay
for,
whether
it's
for
an
individual,
a
family
or
a
child.
E
What
this
does
is
it's.
It
would
create
a
single
membership
that
would
then
be
able
to
be
taken
anywhere.
It
covers
the
annual
fees
for
the
like
the
programs
that
are
just
hosted
at
sunrise,
it's
their
annual
fee
to
go
to
demuth.
It's
also.
Their
annual
feeds
go
to
James
of
Jesse
literally
covers
the
board
so
that
it's
one
program
covered
by
everything
centralized
and
with
the
application
into
that
program
when
they
apply
for
their
card.
E
If
they
would
like
to
apply
for
discounting
on
some
of
these
programs
that
are
costly
for
their
children
or
anything
else,
they
can
apply
for
income
assistance.
At
that
time,
it
would
actually
up
create
a
system
that
is
based
off
the
federal
poverty
income
level
that
allows
for
even
the
most
expensive
program
in
the
city
to
be
accessed
by
somebody
who's
in
a
not-so-great
situation,
or
that
has
multiple
kids.
That
has
a
need
for
these
services,
but
can't
generally
reach
them,
even
if
we
just
created
a
flat
fee.
E
E
Well
now
we
know
who
is
a
resident
they're
already
qualified
they've
got
their
card
a
non-resident
can
utilize
our
services
as
well.
They
pay
slightly
more
for
their
card,
but
at
the
same
time
they
will
also
pay
slightly
more
for
the
program
with
the
city
manager's
focus
being
for
this
ad-hoc
group
to
be
on
the
programs.
E
We
looked
at
what
non-residents
should
be
paying
versus
what
our
residents
should
be
subsidized,
so
in
this
spreadsheet
is
kind
of
the
fees
for
what
we
currently
charge
is
on
the
left
about
when
it's
charged,
whether
it's
weekly
monthly
depending
on
the
program
and
then
what
a
base
rate
would
be
for
the
cost
recovery
of
each
of
those
programs
based
off
of
attendance.
Obviously,
if
you
have
30
people
attending
one
program,
you're
not
going
to
change
that
cost
that
much
so
you
can
get
it
for
a
little
cheaper.
E
E
There
would
be
then
a
20%
discount
to
residents,
which
is
your
resident
level
II.
Sorry,
it's
kind
of
backwards
lettering,
resident,
Level,
II,
it's
20%
discount
off
the
base
rate.
This
is
for
anybody
with
no
income
assistance,
nothing,
that's
what
they
would
pay
for
that
program.
Each
of
these,
then,
is
broken
down
into
four
more
categories.
Those
four
categories
are
based
off
of
levels
within
the
federal
poverty
income,
whether
it's
20%
of
it
40%
60%
80%.
E
E
It
would
treat
the
city
fairly
across
the
board,
no
matter
where
you
live.
What
neighborhood,
where
you're,
trying
to
put
your
children
into
programs,
because
you
can't
always
do
stuff
that
say,
that's
close
to
home?
Sometimes
you
have
to
do
it
close
to
work,
and
this
would
allow
them
to
get
that
kind
of
discounting
anywhere
that
they
need
to
go
for
their
children.
We
provided
for
the.
E
So
that's
major
point
number
two
major
point:
number
three.
There
are
some
of
the
programs
that
we
ran
across
one
specifically
that
when
you
apply
this
method
to
it,
this
program
is
very
expensive.
It's
just
cost
recovery
is
nearly
$300
per
student
monthly.
It's
it's
a
bit
intense,
and
this
is
where
the
ad
hoc
committee
wanted
to
put
three
options
in
front
of
the
Commission
itself
to
say
what
we
should
do
about
this
program.
E
E
Anybody
else,
one
do
I
feel
like
I'm
talking
a
lot.
The
three
recommendations
would
be
to,
and
this
was
for
everyone's
input.
These
were
just
three
options
that
we
saw
and
if
you
see
a
third
option,
or
a
fourth
or
fifth
option,
please
let
us
know,
but
the
three
that
we
saw
were
to
try
and
level
eyes
that
program
to
match
the
program
at
sunrise.
E
So
it
would
definitely
bring
the
cost
to
what
they
would
pay
at
sunrise
to
be
fair,
but
it
would
need
better
attendance
to
continue
to
make
it
work
so
hoping
by
getting
that
cost
down.
It
would
bring
in
more
people
still
at
that
rate
it's
higher
than
what
they've
been
paying
in
that
Center
before,
unless
they
qualify
for
income
assistance
through
the
citywide
membership
program.
E
Looked
at-
and
this
is
still
a
draft
kind
of
approach
to
it-
the
subsidy
basically
we're
paying
it
already
through
the
city
funds.
This
is
the
part
of
the
Parks
and
Rec
programs
that
are
being
paid
for
the
trying
to
do
an
even
program.
We'd
get
a
little
bit
more
income
from
certain
programs
and
we'd
lose
a
little
bit
from
other
programs,
but
that
would
try
and
level
itself
out
the
the
levels
at
how
much
the
discount
is
applying
to
has
I
found
a
chart.
E
That
is
what
medical
offices
apply
to
income
levels
to
try
and
find
discounting
for
them.
I
thought
it
was
a
valid
approach,
because
you
know
that's
where
a
lot
of
people
do
apply
for
income
assistance
is
in
the
medical
field,
and
this
is
programs
that
are
assisting
their
children
in
the
first
place.
So
again,
it's
it's
all
based
off
the
federal
poverty
income
level,
how
much
of
it
what
the
difference
is
and
they
can
be
adjusted.
E
E
So,
unfortunately,
an
option
for
the
ILC
program
because
of
its
cost
because
of
its
low
attendance,
is
also
a
removal
of
it,
the
it's
not
something
that
necessarily
wants
to
be
done.
This
does
serve
kids.
However,
it
doesn't
serve
a
lot
of
kids
and
it's
cost
is
very
high,
I
hate
to
say
it
that
way,
but
they
could
also
go
down
to
sunrise,
trying
to
attend
those
Vickie.
Is
there
still
space
in
the
sunrise
program?
We.
E
Approached
to
attend
or
utilize
the
program,
obviously,
if
it's
slow,
if
it
continues
to
increase
in
price
people,
are
going
to
know,
that's
gonna
happen
which
may
deter
them
a
bit
but
to
try
and
get
some
of
the
cost
recoveries
so
that
you
know
certain
city
management
positions
are
not
angry
about
the
price,
so
those
are
the
three
options
that
we
had
at
the
top
of
our
minds.
A
D
E
C
C
That
the
PLC
program
at
desert
item
was
not
because
they're
still
negotiations,
the
school
is
still
negotiation
with
the
county
to
open
up
the
head
start
building
up
a
desert
island,
the
the
modular
that
they
put
in
there
in
the
late
90s
ran
a
program
there
due
to
funding
the
program
stopped.
They
went
in
and
did
the
remodel
on
the
building.
C
The
city
worked
with
the
with
the
contract,
with
the
county
to
have
the
facility
upgraded
to
run
the
program,
and
now
it's
the
school
district
and
the
county
working
out
an
MoU
to
operate
the
headstart
program
out
of
that
building,
not
out
of
the
James
Oh
Jessie
building.
So
the
program
that
was
being
looked
at
is
that
sunrise,
the
tiny
tot
program,
at
least
the
space
that
the
school
district
is
looking
at
utilizing
for
Head
Start
program.
C
We
also
looked
at
the
Duluth
Community
Center,
the
coordinator
director,
whatever
Myra
Casas
Act
Ida
was
felt
that
sunrise
was
a
better
fit
because
they
could
come
right
in
with
a
program
right
away
without
any
modifications.
Obviously
they
would
have
less
and
early
because
with
only
one
bathroom,
they
could
only
have
15
children
in
order
to
go
to
their
max,
which
was
24.
They'd
have
to
install
another
bathroom
to
a
tune
of
about
$50,000.
C
C
You're
really
looking
at
even
a
larger
number,
because
I'd
only
was
that
this
15
children
at
Desert
Island,
it's
the
27
children
that
are
at
sunrise.
The
school
district
takes
that
property
over
that
room
over
those
27
children.
Maybe
one
might
qualify
for
headstart
because
it's
below
the
federal
poverty
level,
so
you
have
26
children
that
have
no
nowhere
to
go.
E
They
do
have
exceptions
to
that
for
people
that
make
sorry
I'm
not
talking
into
this.
There
are
exceptions
to
how
many
students
they
can
take
at
the
regular
level
that
they
would
provide,
as
well
as
people
that
make
more
than
that
it's
10%
yeah,
which
is
not
currently
full,
even
though
they
have
a
waiting
list.
That's
the
reason
they're
looking
into
these
spaces
to
begin
with
is
because
they
have
a
waiting
list
of
100
people,
100
students,
and
they
don't
have
the
space
to
do
it.
E
Our
ELC
program
as
I
understand
most
of
these
kids
would
qualify
for
that
same
program
and
that's
the
same
age
group.
So
if
we
did
eliminate
that
they
could
join
the
the
headstart
that
would
be
done
there,
but
again,
I,
don't
know
the
details
of
what
they're
planning
to
do.
It
has
not
been
presented.
E
If
so,
it
would
actually
save
us
money
so
that
this
would
apply
and
work
better
great.
The
goal
was
to
create
a
base
system
that
could,
for
the
next
few
years,
grow
easily
without
running
into
the
problems
that
we've
had
before
by
level
izing
the
field
you
know,
but
creating
the
systems
that
allow,
for
those
exceptions
where
people
can't
necessarily
afford
an
after-school
program
or
the
schedule
doesn't
work
for
them
to
go
to
like
the
Asus
program
or
they're
on
waiting
list
for
Asus
programs.
So
this
way
they
can
still
have
a
city
funded
program.
D
C
D
C
The
plan
I
mean
we
worked
for
about
six
months
on
an
agreement
with
the
county
to
put
in
place
and
after
the
city
approved
it,
City
Council
approved
it
and
it
got
put
in
place.
Then
it
was
up
to
the
school
district
and
the
county
to
work
up
an
MoU.
How
who
was
paying
for
what
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
hang-up
is
with
them,
not
having
an
MoU
in
place
to
start
the
program?
Okay,.
B
C
Know,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
because
I
don't
know
what
the
waiting
list
is
for
the
existing
program.
That
was
supposed
to
start.
We
had
a
meeting
up
there
because
the
parents
were
getting
a
little
antsy
about
why
the
parking
hadn't
started.
The
building
was
done.
You
know,
the
whole
thing
was
waiting
on
the
the
contract
between
the
city
and
the
county
in
place,
and
we
probably
had
ten
or
fifteen
parents
at
that
meeting.
C
Trying
to
get
answers.
You
know
ready
to
start
their
kids.
Comments
were
married,
that
you
know
if
you're
really
wanting
you
to
program
now,
we
can
put
you
in
at
Katherine
finchy,
but
once
you
go
into
that
program,
you
can't
leave
to
go
to
the
program
it
desert
Highland
once
it
started
so
I
ran
into
several
parents
asking
me
and
I.
This
was
a
first
I
founded
about
two
weeks
ago
that
the
program
hadn't
started
because
that
a
parent
asking
me
say:
hey
I,
never
got
a
phone
call.
C
E
E
B
B
J
B
C
A
Well
so
there's
two
things:
there:
there's
staff
cost
okay,
so
that's
on
the
table,
but
we
have
families
who
aren't
being
served
and
kids
who
aren't
being
served.
So
that
seems
like
that.
It's
gonna
bubble
up
to
the
surface
and
we'll
deal
with
those
costs.
So
I
have
one
question:
when,
when
is
the
district
opening
the
headstart
program
at
the
desert,
Highland
Center,
do
you
have
Trent
another
question?
You
would
like
me
to
address
and.
A
I
know
it's
very
important
and,
and
the
superintendent
thought
at
that
time
when
I
spoke
with
her
last
month,
that
PSU
SD
attorneys
were
actually
looking
at
documentation.
That's
where
she
told
me
I'm
not
saying
it
was
stuck
there,
but
that's
where
it
was
placed.
So
she
knew
that
attorneys
were
looking
at
documents.
What
those
documents
were
I
have
no
idea.
So
I
will
ask
her
that
another
question
you
would
like
me
to
present.
E
A
C
And
I
just
want
to
interject
to
have
a
conversation
with
dr.
Reddy
the
other
day
regarding
our
feast
study
and
the
situation
with
the
school
district
of
them,
taking
over
programs
or
not
taking
over
programs,
and
he
actually
had
me
asked
me
to
put
on
our
next
agenda.
Basically
a
staff
report
with
recommendations
of
where
what
direction
we
should
be
going.
You
know
is
this
something
the
Commission's
in
favor
of
giving
our
programs
to
the
district
to
take
over
or
do
we
as
the
city
continue
doing?
C
Those
in
the
city
continues
to
subsidize
them
to
whatever
number
we
come
up
to,
because,
obviously,
today,
we're
probably
not
going
to
get
to
where
we're
ready
to
make
a
recommendation.
Moving
forward
to
City,
Council
and
it'll
have
to
wait
to
our
March
meeting
before
we're
there
to
do
a
final
recommendation
and
which
means
it
may
not
get
to
council
until
the
1st
of
April
well,.
B
A
The
pricing,
actually
it
the
cost,
doesn't
really
go
away
because
you're
going
to
have
to
now
move
your
humans
asset
around.
And
so,
if
there
are
three
salaried
union
workers,
they're
going
to
go
somewhere,
and
so
they
might
not
be
running
early
childhood
and
whether
there's
a
debate
who's
better
equipped.
The
cost
of
those
three
human
assets
doesn't
go
away,
but.
B
They
may
not
be
in
our
programs
and
that's
what
we're
worried
about
here.
Is
our
programs
so
I'm
not
sure
where
your
staff
would
go
I
mean
in
my
corporate
life,
when
somebody
moved
out
of
a
division
because
of
a
limitation
of
a
job.
The
bank
had
to
put
them
in
something,
but
it
might
not
be
in
my
division
or
my
cost
center,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
that
works
here,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
that
we
can
not
move
forward
with
this
project.
D
C
You
have
to
have
your
staff
be
certified
and
credentialed,
and
even
though
they've
taken
some
classes
in
E
and
EC
EC,
LA
and
whatnot,
they
don't
have
the
credentials
city
staff
credentials
to
be
an
accredited
licensed
program.
So
if
you
have
a
licensed
program,
you
have
to
have
the
credential
instructors
teachers
to
run
the
program.
A
B
The
other
thing
that
we
haven't
really
discussed,
although
it's
really
not
our
call,
but
an
employee
changing
who
their
employer
is,
is
not
always
a
simple
thing.
Somebody
who's
been
with
the
city
for
20
years
now
becoming
an
employee
of
the
public
school
system
as
a
first
year
employee.
It
may
not
be
equitable,
so
I.
J
Think
what
Vickie
was
saying
but
correct
me
if
I'm,
if
you
eliminate
that
program,
the
person
that's
running,
that
program
still
works
for
the
city
and
will
still
need
to
get
paid,
and
it
will
still
be
in
here.
Is
that
correct
and
if
they
move
to
another
okay.
So
what
what
department
you
would
that
person
be
qualified
to
be
moved
to
if
the
district
Geordi
has
the
other
early
childhood
programs
pumped
into
tiny
tots
or
wherever?
J
D
D
C
Positions
aren't
if
you
had
it,
it'd,
be
different.
If
we
said
we're
not
gonna,
do
any
recreation
at
all
recreation
is
totally
eliminated.
Then
that's,
okay.
We
can
the
city
can
to
see
everyone
if
you
choose
to
take
a
program
and
give
it
to
the
school
district
or
you
give
it
to
the
way
I'm
saying
whoever
you
give
it
to
you've.
Now
taken
a
city
program,
city
staff
had
you
gave
to
someone
else,
so
you
haven't
eliminated
that
you've
just
given
it
someone
else.
C
You
saw
those
employees,
the
city
kind
of
went
through
the
same
thing
when
they
did
that
the
airport,
the
employees
of
the
airport
did
the
landscape
maintenance.
When
the
city
contract
out
the
landscape
maintenance,
they
still
had
to
find
something
for
those
employees
to
do
at
the
airport.
They
had
to
take
on
other
responsibilities
over
there.
Mr.
B
E
E
Correct,
because
that
is
an
early
childhood
literacy
program.
I'm
gonna
use
that
as
the
example
right
now
and
in
a
different
building.
Even
though
it's
proximal
a
different
program
with
a
different
name
is
starting
up
under
PS
USD,
then,
yes,
you
eliminated
the
position.
You
can
eliminate
the
person
and
you
can
still
get
the
kids
served,
because
these
are
the
exact
same
target
market
that
that
program
is
trying
to
capture.
C
E
B
A
We
did
at
the
retreat
ad-hoc
meeting
yesterday
give
ample
time
for
discussion
on
this.
It
feels
like
to
me
that
if
everything
else
was
balancing
out
with
the
recommendations
and
the
sliding
scale
and
resident
and
non-resident
that
to
hold
on
to
a
part
of
the
program
that
might
be
more
expensive
to
service
a
community
that
is
all
too
familiar
with
losing
programs
and
not
qualifying
that
it
might
actually
work
itself
out
and
I,
don't
know
because
I
haven't
seen
the
numbers
run.
A
But
if
we
can
work
it
out
over
here,
there
might
be
enough
sources
to
float
a
something
that
is
more
expensive
than
we
would
be
happy
with
as
a
city
but
be
able
to
accommodate
and
maybe
revisit
it
so
I'm.
Just
throwing
that
out
as
an
idea
and
I
think
it's
worthy
of
some
thought
and
discussion.
I
definitely.
B
Think
we
can
work
on
that
at
the
retreat.
I.
Also
wonder
about
you
know
if
we
look
at
ways
to
more
highly
populated
or
if,
if
that
really
is
a
declining
population,
are
these
children
gonna
age
out
not
be
replaced
and
therefore
the
program
is
going
to
be
on
decline
and
just
Head
Start
come
in
after
that,
so
there
are
some
things
that
I
don't
think
this
group
can
answer
that.
We're
gonna
need
to
have
brought
forth
on
our
behalf,
so
Commissioner
pace,
I
think
you
might
might
have
had
something
or
yeah.
E
So
as
we're
getting
down
to
the
wire
on
timing
here,
since
there
were
a
couple
of
things
in
here,
along
with
price
increases
to
other
programs
like
at
the
pool
and
such
after
the
remodel
and
then
actually
charging
for,
like
a
drop
in
pickle
rate
at
Desert
Highland
like
they
charged
over
it
to
move
so
that
people
can
play
inside
I,
think
we've
been
best
now
that
kind
of
everyone
has.
The
idea
of
what
this
is
to
take
it
home.
Take
a
look
at
the
pricing
structure.
E
If
you
can
read
it
grab
a
magnifying
glass
and
see
you
know
if
there's
anything
glaring
that
stands
out
these
blocks
that
are
kind
of
colored
that
I
highlighted
into
they
have.
These
are
ones
where
there
were
some
oddities
to
them,
such
as
the
program
never
had
a
charge
to
begin
with,
but
it
is
a
good
program.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
that
attend
and
we
could
do
that.
That's
like
the
after-school
study
program
at
the
community
center.
E
The
Highlands
has
never
really
had
they've
had
this
kind
of
flat
rate
membership
thing,
but
with
the
with
the
citywide
program,
fitting
that
into
it
would
definitely
be
a
change
to
what
they're
used
to,
but
again
it
gives
them
more
access
across
the
board
to
everything
across
the
city.
So
that's
a
big
block
in
here
as
well
and
then
I
said.
Pickleball
is
one
of
those
because
it
always
gets
brought
up
at
every
meeting
having
a
drop
in
right.
E
There
does
help
to
bring
in
some
of
the
costs
and
they
are
used
to
it
because
the
Duluth
Community
Center
does
it,
and
so,
if
we
did
it
up
there
as
well,
it
would
help
to
alleviate
some
of
the
stress
but
really
think
about
the
citywide
membership
program.
One
of
the
things
we
had
regular
debates
about
was
what
is
a
resident.
How
are
you
a
resident
of
this
city?
You
know:
do
you
live
here
eight
months
out
of
the
year?
Do
you
have
a
lease
here?
Are
you
a
full-time
hourly
employee
here?
E
You
know
we
need
if
we're
going
to
move
forward
on
that
program.
If
that's
something
that
this
commission
approves
of,
we
need
to
kind
of
have
some
of
those
ideas
in
place
for
the
way
the
city
would
implement
them.
So
they're
all
things
to
think
about,
as
well
as
given
the
information
about
you
know
what
the
populations
are
near,
our
community
centers
I'm,
not
just
talking
about
James
or
Jesse,
but
definitely
DeMuth
as
well.
You
know
that's
a
stress
community
as
well.
It
hasn't
historically
been,
but
it's
starting
to
be
now.
B
One
other
piece
set
I'm
planning
to
go
to
the
Cathedral,
City
parks
and
recs
meeting
that's
later
this
month,
just
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
we
are
going
to
be
charging
more
to
non-residents
and
I
am
gonna
challenge
them
to
look
at
the
fact
that
they've
eliminated
their
programs,
so
their
children
come
and
use.
Our
programs
and
I
want
them
to
think
and
talk
to
their
council
about
how
they
might
be
able
to
step
in
and
help
us
with
the
Delta,
because
I
think
it
will
be
difficult
on
some
of
their
family
members.
B
A
So
Cathedral
City
is
actually
looking
at
a
sugar
tax
and
that
the
income
from
that
sugar
tax
would
actually
go
to
their
parks
and
recs,
because
I
believe
their
parks
and
recs
really
doesn't
have
a
budget
but
they're
looking
at
what
would
that
really
look
like
in
sugar
and
and
it's
not
uncommon?
Other
cities
have
done
this
and
I
thought.
It
was
really
interesting
to
like
look
at
that
and
think
about
it
and
then
so
I'd
be
curious
to
know
what
your
findings
are.
When
you
come
back,
I've.
I
I
You
know
how
this
started
so
the
community
knows
I
mean
we
went
as
he
million
voted
to
tax
herself
more,
but
some
of
this
started
before
we
decided
to
tax
ourselves
more
and
you
know
I'm
not
sure
where
we're
at
exactly
because
we
did
text
herself
more
and
we
have
more
money
in
the
city.
If
you
want
to
phrase
it
that
way,
then
we
had
before
the
tax.
So
you
know
that,
but
we
did
have
an
edict.
I
It
seemed
to
be
from
the
top
that
we
need
to
look
at
these
fees,
and
you
know
I'm
sort
of
reluctant
on
this
subcommittee,
because
I
don't
really
want
to
raise
fees
on
anybody,
but
I
hope
we
could
do
it
in
a
you
know
a
good
way
if
we
have
to
at
least
for
part
of
the
process,
but
I,
don't
think
anybody
really
wants
to
race
visa
eliminate
any
of
these.
These
programs,
but
I,
think
you
know
as
there's
your
paces
talked
about
I
mean
we
had
a
look
at
the
structure
and.
I
Fairness,
and
also
if
there
are
exceptions
to
justify
that
so
I
would
like
everyone
if
they
could
to,
and
we
talked
about
next
time.
Think
about
you
know
the
structure
we've
created
and
you
know
the
fairness
and
put
into
exceptions.
You
know
why
we
want
to
do
exceptions
because
there's
a
good
argument
to
why
you
could
make
exceptions,
I
think
and
I
did.
Lastly,
just
want
to
make
it
a
point.
I
was
looking
at
the
master
plan.
I
I
So
that's
just,
but
you
know
that
has
a
caveat
on
there,
too
doesn't
mean
we
always
have
to
charge
our
fees
and
the
idea
that
you
know
should
our
programs
be
revenue
neutral
or
you
know,
should
they
be
subsidized
is
a
kind
of
bigger
policy
question
that
we
should
talk
about
I
kind
of
think
about.
We
know
most
people
here
would
think
that
you
know
I
think
that's
been
a
little
bit
lost
and
some
of
the
discussions
higher
above
us.
So
those
are
some
things.
I
thought
were
worth
mentioning
before
our
next
meeting.
J
Had
that
question
I
thought
maybe
Commissioner
piece
when
you
started
talking
I
thought
you
said
something,
but
then
we
talked
about
a
lot
of
things.
So
I'm
just
gonna
come
back
to
it.
The
all
the
memberships
are
annual
fees.
I
thought
you
said.
Maybe
it
would
be
one
one
thought
was
one
payment
for
a
city
to
use
all
the
city
programs
just
for
one
fee
is
that
right,
yeah.
F
J
E
J
E
E
E
J
E
B
Well,
we
didn't
include
it
at
this
point
and
we
think
it's
too
early
to
include
full-time.
My
belief
is
that
people
who
want
to
use
the
parks
people
who
walk
their
dogs
on
the
parks
really
ought
to
have
a
card
that
they've
paid
for
and
to
have
access
to
the
parks
and
use
the
parks
across
the
board,
and
if
they
also
want
to
swim,
then
they've
already
got
the
card.
They
just
need
to
pay
for
that
service
and
that's
where
there
could
be
actually
some
extra
income
to
the
city
and
an
opportunity.
B
E
That's
more
what
this
is.
You
know,
whatever
we
decide
to
do
with
this
later,
I
see
it
as
a
program
that
can
grow
easily
and
you
could
use
it
for
other
uses.
This
is
its
application
as
it
stands
for
how
the
city
currently
stands.
You
know
even
which
we
didn't
get
to
even
fees,
for
if
you're,
renting
facilities
there's
basis
on
resident,
non-resident
they've
already
got
their
resident
card,
that's
how
they
prove
the
residency,
so
it
makes
it
simpler,
so
they're
using
one
thing
everywhere,
quick
note
before
anybody
goes
off
to
anything
else.
E
Please
take
a
look
at
the
pool
it's
down.
After
all,
the
highlighting
it's
the
first
section
where
it
gets
very
small,
there's
daily,
adult
daily
youth
and
then
the
punch
passes
of
25
at
the
Swim
Center.
There
are
slight
increases
in
their
think
about
them.
I
highly
suggest
you
talk
to
friends,
neighbors
and
family,
because
I've
already
gotten
approached
six
times
at
the
gym
because
they
love
the
new
pool,
but
they
also
know
we're
going
through
the
fee
study
right
now
as
to
what
we
should
charge
people
so
I've
had
a
lot
of
comments.
E
B
And
we
did
it's
almost
four
o'clock,
we're
very
close
to
the
back
end
of
the
meeting.
But
Vicky
did
you
want
to
go
over
the
the
fees
at
a
high
level
and
and
talk
about
him
I
think
some
of
us
were
a
little
surprised
in
the
quick
review
that
they
weren't
flattered
across
the
board
and
wondered
if,
if
maybe
you
could
address.
E
C
What
I
was
instructed
to
do
was
take
each
facility
to
base
it
off
what
the
annual
budget
was
that
we
spent
in
2000
of
2017
divided
by
the
number
of
hours
we
actually
operate.
Those
facility
come
with
an
hourly
rate
per
facility,
so
that
was
the
direction
I
was
given
not
to
base
it
off
the
square
footage,
but
to
base
it
off
how
many
hours
it's
open,
how
much
money
that
facility
costs
us
to
run
and
if
we
were
to
get
want
to
charge
full
recovery
cost
for
everything
we
would
charge
that
amount
of
money.
B
I
think
where
we
were
going
by
measuring
facilities
is,
we
would
drive
that
cost
into
a
bucket
divided
equally
amongst
the
locations
and
square
footage.
Now
there
would
still
be
an
opportunity
for
discounting
based
on
economic
resources.
So
if
you
had
an
individual
who
was
falling
into
the
category,
that
is
extremely
low,
they'd
rent
that
space
at
the
lower
price
well.
C
And
you
could
still
do
that
and
let
me
get
Francis
for
the
first
page
is
leisure
center,
so
I
based
off
the
pavilion,
is
10,000
square
feet.
The
dance
studio
is
only
2,000,
so
I
took
you
know.
2,000
compared
to
10,000.
I
took
that
20%
times
the
412
to
come
up
with
what
the
rate
should
be
for
the
leisure
center.
The
pavilion
was
based
off
the
higher
rate.
C
The
community
room
is
about
a
little
over
a
thousand
square
feet,
so
I
based
off
a
thousand,
so
it
was
10%
of
the
$412,
so
I
tried
to
base
the
different
rooms.
That's
why
that
what
I
gave
you
today
was
after
talking
with
the
mr.
Crawford,
the
community
center
manager,
James
Oh
Jesse.
We
wanted
to
break
down
all
the
rooms
that
they
rent
out
there
and
not
just
because
if
you
go
right
now,
I
can
rent
any
room
out
there
for
$49.
If
I'm
a
resident
for
all
day.
C
There's
no
distinction
of
you
know
whether
it's
3
hours,
8
hours,
10
hours,
20
hours,
it's
49
dollars
from
the
date,
no
matter
what
size
the
room
is,
so
we
broke
it
down.
The
gymnasium
was
set
fees,
we
had
his
a/v
room,
which
is
the
new
room.
We
modelled
back
off
of
that
and
the
older
part
of
the
building
is
there
cut
what
he
calls
her
conference
room.
C
It's
about
a
thousand
square
feet,
I
think
the
one
meeting
room
was
500
square
feet
and
then
what
we
call
the
mirror
room
off
the
gym
is
about
400
square
feet.
So
I
took
that
you
know
the
gyms
9,000,
so
I
took
what
we
had
based
on
the
9,000.
It
came
with
a
percentage
of
what
what
the
fee
would
be
so.
B
Based
on
the
brown
act,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
behave
around
the
sytem
but
I,
maybe
we
go
back
to
Marcus
and
and
have
the
conversation
with
him,
because
I
really
did
want
to
try
to
to
level
things
out
based
on
base
fee
and
size
and
then
have
the
economic
impact,
bring
down
any
cost
for
a
person
who
is
local
but
sort
of
keep
things
equal
because
it
still
feels
a
little
bit
like
I'd.
Be
crazy
not
to
go
rent.
B
You
know
the
Highland
Center,
which
is
air-conditioned
and
large
and
comfortable
rather
than
using
the
DeMuth.
So
maybe
we
do
that
as
a
sideline
and
then
be
prepared
for
the
discussion
for
our
retreat.
I,
too
want
to
thank
Commissioner,
Payson,
Armstrong
and
Vicki
for
all
the
work
that
has
gone
into
doing
this.
It
was
not
easy
and
your
drive,
commissioner
pace
and
adherence
to
the
numbers
really
really
helps
because
you,
you
took
all
of
the
emotion
out
and
you
just
drove
numbers
and
let's
figure
it
out
and
get
it
right.
B
E
B
A
Yes,
two
things
one.
Thank
you
guys
very
much
for
all
the
work
that
you
did
that
went
into
this.
It's
very
hearty
so
I
just
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
retreat
Trent,
something
that
you
brought
up.
So
we
are
building
the
agenda
and
topics
and
there
is
a
section
for
ad
hoc
kind
of
breakout
and
then
coming
back
together.
A
It's
a
total
of
with
discussion
and
commentary
and
thought
about
an
hour
and
a
half
or
two
hours
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that-
and
this
is
okay.
If
this
dominates
that
conversation,
but
that
that's
enough
time
and
so
Vicki
we
have
the
agenda
put
together.
I'll
send
it
to
you
and
maybe
this
the
solution
would
be
to
circulate
it
out
to
everyone.
A
You
can
make
some
comments
and
so
forth
and
we'll
point
out
where
this
conversation,
the
program
fee
conversation
would
fit
in
how's
that
sound
Oh
that'd
be
good,
okay
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
share
around
the
sugar
tax.
I
know
it's
kind
of
insane.
It
sounds
kind
of
insane,
but
four
cities
in
California
have
passed
a
sugar
tax
and
it's
on
sugary
drinks
and
sugary
items,
and
it's
intention
is
that
money
would
go
to
health
and
well-being
and
deal
with
the
obesity
issue.
So
it's
not
off
the
charts.
A
I
mean
it's
not
a
crazy
thing
and
I
think
if
Cathedral
City
is
seriously
looking
at
and
I
know,
they've
put
a
group
of
people
together,
they're
having
regular
meetings
and
they
might
lead
in
the
valley
that
they
put
this
tax
forward
and
I
think
other
cities
will
follow
so
I
just
put
it
out
there
as
something
to
pay
attention
to,
because
it
really
could
shift
our
experiences
at
Parks
and
Rec
and
programming,
and
some
of
our
centers
and
some
of
the
things
that
you're
running
so
I
just
wanted.
That
share
that.
Thank
you.
A
830
I'm,
sorry,
starting
with
our
coffee
at
8:30,
9:00
a.m.
we'll
start
sharp
and
I
will
send
Vicky
the
address.
It
is
at
the
PSU
s,
DS
service
center,
that
service
center
Drive,
and
that
is,
gene
autry
between
Ramon
and
Vista
Chino,
and
it's
close,
it's
the
closest,
is
the
Ramon
side.
So
it's
Ramon
and
gene
autry
across
from
the
airport
and
I'll
send
out
the
exact
address
so
8:30
and
we
will
have
the
meeting
room
and
it'll
be
in
the
service
building.
A
B
And
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
people
that
we're
gonna
need
to
talk
to
to
make
sure
that
they're
available
all
right.
We
just
covered
too
during
today's
meeting,
but
we
are
gonna
need
some
special
guests
to
share
some
information
around
the
Brown
Act
and
things
like
that.
So
thank
you
very
much
everyone.
We
will
actually.
This
calls
for
adjournment
on
the
March
20th
meeting,
but
it
will
actually.