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From YouTube: Measure J Commission | Feb 17 2022
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City of Palm Springs Measure J Commission meeting, held February 17th, 2022
D
H
B
G
Linda,
did
I
see
you
at
the
you
did
I
thought
so.
G
H
H
I
Mr
chair,
I'm
here
to
observe
and
if
there
are
any
questions
that
I
can
help
answer,
but
that's
all
so
wherever
I
belong
in
terms
of
on-screen
off-screen
up
to
you.
B
B
Oops,
I
don't
think
we
have
so.
I
am
just
started
about.
F
Three
or
four
weeks
ago,
I
am
the
assistant
director
of
finance.
I
report
directly
to
nancy
welcome.
E
B
A
F
F
E
C
B
E
E
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
the
the
reason
I
was
told
that
I
should
bring
it
up
in
this
manner
is
because
the
the
agenda
was
published
on
thursday
and
the
meeting
was
on
thursday
evening
of
the
consul,
so
it
was
after
the
agenda
was
put
together
or
posted,
and
I
was
told
this
is
the
proper
procedure
to
do
it.
It
calls
for
a
two-thirds
vote.
B
C
Have
to
determine
what
item
number
this
will
be,
whether
it
will
be
item
number
2a
or
2c
and
I'll
prepare
a
roll
card,
roll
call
vote
and,
as
commissioner
craig
mentioned,
it
has
to
be
a
two-thirds
vote.
E
B
I
would
suggest
that
I
don't
know
how
long
we
have
our
mayor
and
present
and
city
council.
I
know
they
can't
be
here
for
the
whole
meeting,
so
I
suggest
we
move
it
up
to
2a.
C
B
F
B
B
Okay,
any
other
amendments
or
changes
to
the
agenda.
J
I'll
make
the
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended.
H
B
Favor
hi
hi,
unanimous
okay.
We
now
move
to
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
We
have
the
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
of
january
20th
2022
of
the
measure,
j
oversight.
Commission,
I
do
have
one
change
that
I
wanted
to
correct
when
we
asked
the
library
to
present
it
was
not
just
on
their
community
initiated
project.
B
We
asked,
since
we
had
had
previously
discussed
other
library
agenda
items.
We
asked
them
to
present
the
general
plans
for
the
library.
B
Any
other
ch
any
other
changes
to
the
minutes,
so
I
would
move
that
we
approve
the
minutes
as
amended
promotion.
A
B
I
don't
know
okay
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
message:
commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission.
Although
the
commission
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
B
B
As
you
are,
as
you
speak,
you'll
be
admitted
to
the
regular
room.
L
Again,
my
name
is
kurt
larsch
and
I'm
on
the
los
compadres
neighborhood
organization
board
of
directors.
It's
the
board
of
directors
that
submitted
an
application
for
your
consideration
for
funds
for
a
lighted,
crosswalks.
H
L
L
Approximately
half
live
north
of
sonora
half
south,
so
we
all
use
that
to
drive,
walk
or
bike,
to
connect
to
other
neighborhoods
in
palm
springs
or
to
the
east
side
of
the
los
compadres
neighborhood.
The
east
side
of
los
compadres
is
cut
off
from
lca
low,
so
you
need
to
cross
lcl
to
get
to
that
part.
L
As
you
know,
both
feral
and
lclo
are
about
five
lanes
wide.
It's
bike
paths,
parking
shoulder
parking,
two
lanes
of
traffic
and
a
turn
lane.
L
So
when
residents
want
to
cross
either
of
those
roads,
it
can
be
dangerous
at
our
annual
meeting,
it
constantly
comes
up
from
our
neighbors
about
the
dangers
of
crossing
either
of
those
roads
to
go
from
one
neighborhood
to
the
other
or
to
the
other
side
of
the
los
compadres
neighborhood
organization
posted
it's
45
miles
an
hour,
but
we've
seen
traffic
go
faster
and
we've
seen
traffic
increasing
as
well.
So
one
way
with
the
crosswalks.
What
we'd
like
to
do
is
unify
the
neighborhood
to
make
it
safer
for
people
to
cross.
L
It's
not
a
stop
sign.
It
will
only
be
used
when
someone
wants
to
cross
the
road.
The
engineering
department
has
and
rightfully
so,
deemed
this
not
necessary
or
relevant
for
a
stop
sign
and
we
don't
want
a
stop
sign,
but
what
we
want
is
something
more
visible.
So
when
someone
is
crossing
the
road
with
traffic,
it's
much
safer
for
them
and
they're
seen
especially
at
night
feral
has
that
curve.
L
We
want
this
to
be
a
safer
way
for
residents,
children
and
seniors
to
safely
cross
these
busy
wide
roads.
We
want
this
to
be
preventative
versus
waiting
to
be
reactionary
after
a
probable
accident
that
could
cause
serious
injury
or
worse
so
as
the
los
compadres
board
of
directors.
We
appreciate
your
consideration
of
our
request
for
this
grant
and
I
can
answer
any
questions.
If
anybody
has
it.
F
F
F
One
commissioner
soto,
I
believe,
recalled
that
measure
j
funding
for
new
move
park,
and
she
recalled
that
there
was
funding
for
dumuth
park
and
wanted
to
clarify
that
she
is
correct
that
202
000
was
awarded
about
a
year
ago,
but
this
was
in
conjunction
with
quimby
act.
Funds
to
response
to
the
land
and
water
conservation
fund,
grant
request
for
50
local
funds
match
for
continued
consideration
of
the
grant
funding
of
the
3.6
million
dollar
demuth
dog
park
construction
by
the
national
park
service.
F
At
last
word.
This
was
subject
to
the
state's
completion
of
the
federal
environmental
cultural
study
of
the
project
site
to
which
the
park
and
recreation
department
was
supposed
to
follow
up
on.
But
at
this
point
in
time
it
seems
that
the
city
most
likely
is
not
going
to
receive
these
funds.
So
my
question
that
perhaps
someone
can
answer
later
in
your
meeting
is
what
happens
to
this
two
hundred
and
two
thousand
dollars.
F
It
was
pointed
out
that
a
comparable
shaped
structure
adjacent
at
the
ball
field
cost
approximately
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
appropriate
ground
cover
would
cost
another
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
that
left
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
an
improved
fence
line
with
shade
trees
and
additional
plants
to
improve
the
overall
cohesiveness
and
then
and
enhance
the
aesthetics
was
the
rest
of
the
move
park.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
if
I
could
how
we
came
up
with
that
dollar.
For
you
request.
F
In
light
of
the
recent
allegations
against
the
commission,
I
hope
they
don't
delay
proceedings
and
proposal
selections
for
city
council
to
approve,
as
I
believe,
you're
all
doing,
an
excellent
job,
sifting
through
the
59
proposals
and
wish
you
all
continued
success
at
doing
just
that.
Thank
you.
M
Can
you
hear
us?
Yes,
I
can.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
you
may
be
all
right.
Thank
you
for
for
hosting
the
meeting
tonight.
I'm
I'm
here
as
more
of
as
a
visitor,
but
I'm
my
father,
rick,
supple
and
and
stepmom
rosine
supple,
I'm
really
here!
M
It's
been
a
vision
of
my
dad
and
of
rosine
to
make
the
camelot
theater
a
community
theater
for
the
whole
city
of
palm
springs
and
it's
ut.
It
has
been
utilized
since
2007
by
all
across
the
valley.
You
know
different
events,
in
fact,
with
I've,
I've
enjoyed
visiting
palm
springs
every
year
and
watching
the
growth
of
the
cultural
center.
M
Now
in
the
community
of
theatrical
groups
that
want
a
small
theater,
which
this
is
135
seats
for
one
act
plays
and
other
small
groups
string,
quartets,
you
know
and
and
smaller
performances
could
be
in
this
theater
well
right
now.
The
desert
ensemble
has
a
has
a
show
going
on
this
weekend
and
if
they're
going
to
change
their
actors,
their
actresses
they've
got
to
go
out
in
the
alley
and
go
to
an
outhouse.
M
And
you
know
it's
just
tough.
You
know
with
the
wind,
you
know
climate
for
people
to
going
in
and
out
of
the
building
to
do
this
kind
of
a
thing
to
to
act.
So
what
we're
hoping
now
is
to
have
this
renovation
that
would
build
restrooms
changing
rooms,
also
some
supply
office
storage
area,
and
this
would
be
behind
theater
one
and
this
sewage
line
that
we're
asking
for
the
city
to
support
we'll
make
this
all
possible.
M
If
we
don't,
if
we
don't
have
the
pipe,
we
can't
have
the
project
and
it's
a
big
project
to
do
this
renovation.
So
I'm
strongly
in
support
of
the
200
000
ask
by
the
palm
springs
cultural
center,
and
I
would
really
be
grateful
if
you
all
could
consider
it
and
fully
fund
it.
And
again.
M
This
was
a
real
vision
of
my
dad's
and
my
stepmoms
that
this
community
theater
serviced
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
the
coachella
valley
for
the
arts
and
for
culture,
and
I
I
would
be
very
grateful
if
you
all.
Would
you
know,
take
a
close
look
at
this
and
put
it
up
there
for
for
discussion.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
thank
you
and
I
just
sometimes
presume
it
is
hard
to
interrupt.
But
if
you
go
over
three
minutes,
evelyn
will
try
and
let
you
know.
H
Pickleball
pickleball
pickleball,
I'm
a
usa,
pickleball
ambassador,
an
instructor
for
palm
springs
and
palm
desert.
I
run
tournaments
and
I'm
here
representing
david
feltman
and
myself,
and
we
would
like
to
thank
you
for
considering
the
proposal
to
add
more
pickleball
courts.
It
sounds
like
pickleball.
Courts
will
be
in
a
group
of
proposals
for
further
consideration
when
it
comes
time
for
engineering
to
do
a
deep
dive.
We
are
available
to
provide
input
to
ensure
there
is
a
good
set
of
specs
to
investigate
for
siding
and
pricing.
H
We
just
really
know
that
it
would
be
great
to
have
more
courts
before
nationals
next
year.
This
sport
is
an
obsession
in
the
coachella
valley
and
it
helps
fitness
for
seniors
families.
Kids.
I
had
160
players
at
my
round
robin
last
sunday
and
there
were
ages
from
10
to
80
and
it's
just
something
positive.
We
need
right
now
in
our
community
and
I
think
it's
really
important
if
we
have
any
money
to
put
in
more
courts
to
try
to
offer
things
to
do
positively
and
healthy
in
the
pandemic
crisis
that
people
can
enjoy.
N
Thank
you
very
much
hello.
Everyone
just
like
mary
said
pickleball.
N
I
love
sport.
I
play
pickleball
every
day.
I
love
the
new
spark
very
much,
and
I
am
glad
that
david
has
sent
a
proposal
and
I
really
hope
you
consider
it.
I
you
have
no
idea
how
many
residents
and
visitors
come
to
palm
springs
and
play
the
sport.
It
is
a
just
again.
Just
like
mary
said:
it's
an
obsession
and
it's
a
fun
social
sport
that
I
I'm
glad
I
discovered,
and
there
are
so
many
players
here
that
come
to
palm
springs
and
all
they
do
is
play
pickleball.
F
N
N
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
sure
how
much
you
heard,
but
I
think
my
two
minutes
is
almost
over,
but
I'm
just
really
I'm
advocating
for
more
pickleball
courts.
It's
really
difficult
to
play
pickleball
nowadays
because
of
the
high
winter
season.
N
We
really
do
need
pickleball
courts
and
I
really
hope
you
consider
the
proposal
and
I
I
would
love
for
more
people
to
come
visit
our
beautiful
city
and
play
pickleball
and
get
to
know
everyone
from
our
residents
to
to
desserts
and
all
you
really
can't
play.
So
I
really
hope
that
we
don't
have
to
wait
25
minutes
and
then
obviously
I
hope
those
are.
N
There
are
other
parks
and
not
just
the
moose
park,
because
when
we
have
people
that
can
visit-
and
it's
kind
of
embarrassing
to
take
them
also
to
the
moot
park,
because
it
smells
all
the
time
because
the
waste
water,
the
sewage
system
and
it's
it
smells
so
bad.
Sometimes
that
is
kind
of
embarrassing
to
our
dispersed.
B
Okay,
I
mentioned
last
year
we
had
asked
then
mayor
holstadge,
to
attend
our
meeting
and
I
think
she
was
unavailable
and
mayor
pro
tem
was
unavailable,
so
councilman
coors,
attended,
emcee
and
then
mentioned
that
they
would
try
and
get
here
every
three
or
four
months.
So
I'm
very
appreciative
they
have
shown
and
wanted
to
ask
mayor
middleton.
If
you
wanted
to
say
anything
or
just
observe.
G
Thank
you,
chair
bernstein,
and
yes,
I
do
have
some
comments.
I
think
they're
needed
so
simply
to
set
the
record
since
last
thursday
evening
I
have
consulted
with
council
member
coors,
since
I
knew
he
was
the
last
individual
from
city
council
to
to
be
involved
with
a
meeting
of
the
measure,
j
commission
and
I've
also
consulted
with
the
city
manager.
G
There
will
be
subsequent
meetings
that
will
involve
the
balance
of
the
council.
I've
also
reached
out
to
individuals
that
were
a
part
of
the
original
measure.
J
commission
I've
not
completed
the
reach
out
that
I'm
going
to
make
with
those
individuals,
but
one
of
the
individuals
I
spoke
to
is
commissioner
marshall,
who
was
who's
a
commissioner
now
and
was
in
fact
a
commissioner
at
the
time
of
the
original
measure,
j
commission.
G
First,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
each
and
every
member
of
the
measure,
j
commission,
for
your
integrity,
your
commitment
to
our
city
and
for
the
contributions
that
you
make
to
this
commission
and
have
so
many
of
you
made
to
other
commissions
in
the
past.
It
is
incredibly
important
work
and
folks,
speak
city
council
work
being
thankless.
G
That's
occasionally
true,
the
work
of
commissioners
being
thankless
is
almost
always
true.
So
thank
you.
I
have
the
greatest
respect
for
each
and
every
one
of
you
and,
as
we
all
know,
because
many
of
you
are
good
friends
from
time
to
time.
We've
disagreed
on
this
issue
or
that
issue
going
forward,
but
that's
what
makes
our
city
so
strong.
G
I
must
admit,
though,
back
when
I
was
doing
this
in
2015
and
16
issues
around
pickleball
wasn't
quite
what
it
has
become
in
the
last
few
years,
but
it
all
of
this
is
individuals
within
our
neighborhoods
and
our
community
reaching
out
for
things
that
will
make
a
difference
in
the
quality
of
life
in
our
neighborhoods
and
in
our
community,
and
there
are.
G
I
got
the
numbers
correct,
50,
different
projects
that
are
before
you.
When
the
original
measure
j
commission
got
started,
I
remember
they
were
close
to
300
different
projects
and
the
origin
of
the
community
projects
and
the
one
million
dollars
devoted
to
that
was
that
there
were
a
number
of
us,
myself
included,
who
were
advocating
on
behalf
of
community
projects
and
felt
that
they
were
getting
lost
in
the
magnitude
of
so
many
other
major
projects
that
we
were
losing
track
of.
G
One
of
the
reasons
why
so
many
individuals
voted
for
measure
j
in
the
first
place.
They
wanted
to
see,
stop
light,
stop
lights,
stop
signs,
they
wanted
to
see
gaps
in
sidewalks
completed.
They
wanted
to
see
it
to
be
safer
to
walk
our
streets.
Those
were
the
kinds
of
things
we
were
advocating
for,
and
that
is
how
the
community
projects
came
to
be.
G
This
won't
be
the
last
time
I
will
attempt
to
set
the
record
straight
in
terms
of
how
community
projects
came
to
be,
nor
has
that
need
gone
away.
We
saw
that
in
vivid
evidence
this
evening
from
the
public
comments
that
came
in
for
you.
G
If
you
don't
do
it,
then
those
kinds
of
conversations
are
going
to
take
place
at
city
council,
and
I
don't
think
we
have
the
capacity
to
take
on
that
additional
burden.
G
G
That
intellectually
and
from
a
public
policy
standpoint
is
a
very
legitimate
question,
with
the
origin
of
measure
j
being
involved
in
making
recommendations
to
city
council
does
not
begin
with
this
particular
message:
a
commission.
It
goes
back
to
the
original
measure,
j
commission,
and
that
is
work
that
was
done.
G
Then,
if
it's
appropriate
to
consider
whether
or
not
to
change
that
in
some
fashion,
moving
forward,
I'm
open
to
that
conversation,
but
it
is
not
going
to
take
away
no
matter
what
we
do,
the
need
to
have
a
body
and
a
group,
that's
responsible
for
feeling
the
kinds
of
questions
and
concerns
that
you
hear
from
our
from
neighbors.
G
Before
I
hand
it
off
to
council
member
coors
moving
forward,
I
think
everyone
on
city
council
recognizes
that
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
in
terms
of
the
communications
between
our
various
commissions
and
councils
and
I'm
dedicated
to
making
sure
that
we
get
those
communications
right.
G
I
served
on
the
planning
commission,
I
know
what
it's
like
to
be
a
commissioner
and
it
is
frankly,
sometimes
thankless
work,
but
what
matters
is
when
you
know
you're,
making
a
difference
for
your
community.
G
That's
why
you
are
in
this
is
to
make
a
difference
for
your
community,
and
I
greatly
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
and
we
will
do
a
better
job
of
making
sure
you
understand
how
much
we
appreciate
what
you
do.
Council
member
course.
D
So,
thank
you
so
hi
everyone
chair,
bernstein
vice
chair
soto
and
the
rest
of
the
commissioners,
so
I
I
want
to
just
echo
a
little
bit
there,
but
I'll
keep
it
brief
since
mayor
milton
really
covered
it.
But
I
also
really
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
all
of
your
work.
I
my
first
two
years
on
council.
I
was
part
of
the
measure
j.
Then
we
had
a
subcommittee
with
council
member
mills.
D
I
remember
commissioner,
marshall
and
the
meetings
we
had
specifically
on
the
issue
of
limiting
the
expectation
in
the
community
that
all
the
money
was
going
to
community
projects
and
then
that
the
community
projects
could
get
lost
in
the
fire
stations,
the
police
station,
road
repairs,
and
so
at
the
recommendation
of
the
measure
j
commission.
D
They
asked
that
we
limit,
but
both
limit
and
set
aside
a
million
dollars
a
year
for
community
projects
of
measure,
j
funds
and
that
the
commission
would
vet
all
those
projects
and
also
the
other
vetting
they've
done
on
city
projects
and
make
recommendations
to
the
council,
and
I
think,
as
mayor
middleton
alluded,
if
we
had
to
do
that,
given
the
literally
eight
to
ten
hours
a
month
we
meet,
it
would
take
a
huge
amount
of
time,
and
so
the
literally
hundreds
of
hours
you
all
put
in
is
so
important
and
is
so
appreciated.
D
And
it's
about
the
public
having
an
opportunity
at
a
commission
level
to
weigh
in
right.
Not
everyone
comes
to
council,
and
so
that
is
just
a
really
important
part
of
this
process
and
from
the
beginning,
you
know,
measure
j
oversight
which
was
passed
by
the
voters
has
been
also
about
overseeing
the
spending.
D
Not
you
know
you
don't
do
an
audit,
it's
always
been
recommending
projects,
and
sometimes
the
order
of
the
projects
has
changed
from
what
council
has
done
from
what
staff
recommended
and
mr
j
recommended
right.
We
get
advice
from
both
and
that's
always
been
a
key
part
and
a
really
important
part
of
the
process.
D
But
towards
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure,
because
it's
a
follow-up
from
our
october
meeting
when
city
manager-
and
I
were
here-
and
we
talked
about
the
communication
issues
mayor
middleton
you
brought
up
and
how
we
better
work
on
that
process,
that
you
know
that
we're
all
working
in
the
same
direction
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
most
excited
counsel
when
we
interviewed
for
a
city
manager
was
justin
clifton,
really
laying
out
that
he
wanted
us
to
get
work.
D
Plans
right
that
we're
going
to
prioritize
that
we're
going
to
you
know,
look
out
a
year
at
what
our
agendas
look
like,
because
things
come
up
all
the
time.
But
if
we
add
new
things,
constantly
things
keep
on
falling
off
and
so
tuesday
we're
having
a
study
session
and
we're
hoping
to
do
this
monthly.
Now.
And
it's
really
going
to
be
focused
on
the
priorities
which
council
talked
about
in
january
at
a
meeting
in
a
work
plan
format
and
to
get
input
from
the
public
on
those
priorities.
D
Because
there
are
things
that
we've
talked
about,
wanting
to
do
that
will
fall
off
right.
That
would
not
go
away,
but
can't
get
done
in
the
next
year
or
18
months,
and
so
the
importance
of
getting
input,
especially
from
our
commissions
on
that
is,
is
critical
and
I
we
haven't
seen
it
yet,
but
I
presume
it'll
come
out
tonight.
I
know
staff
was
still
working
when
I
left
city
hall
today
on
it,
but
we're
also
going
to
talk
about
processes
right.
D
I
think
we
as
a
city
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
communication
right.
We
don't
want-
and
I
don't
think
it
ever
comes
up
with
measure
j,
but
with
some
commissions
you
know
they're
working
on
something
that
is
maybe
not
be
a
priority
and
then
doesn't
then
get
addressed
in
a
way
that
they
would
like
to
see
it.
And
so
it
creates
frustration.
So
how
we
make
sure
those
priorities
are
set
with
the
input
of
commissions
and
all
the
commissions
gave
input
on
priorities
to
the
city
manager.
D
So
I
did
want
to
let
you
and
the
public
know
that
is
tuesday,
and
I
really
want
to
encourage
people
when
that
report
is
out
to
review
it.
You
can
feel
free
to
call
any
of
us
email
make
public
comment
at
the
meeting,
but
getting
input
on
that
from
the
public
is
really
important
and
the
commissioners
are
engaged.
D
You
know
on
the
issues
they
work
on
so
hearing
from
you
would
be
really
helpful
and
I
don't
know
if
city
manager
wants
to
add
anything
on
that,
but
really
do
appreciate
the
countless
hours
that
you've
done
and
thanks
for
stepping
up
a
second
time,
commissioner
marshall,
because
I
know
how
much
work
this
is
here.
I
Thank
you.
So
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
add.
I
can
certainly
answer
any
questions
we'll
be
looking
at
the
entire
spectrum
of
role,
players
and
decision-making
when
we
have
this
conversation
on
tuesday
at
fair
at
a
fairly
high
conceptual
level.
You've
probably
heard
me
say
before
that,
one
of
the
things
that
makes
this
unique
local
government
I
mean
our
kind
of
decision
making
is
how
participatory
it
is,
and
we
have
residents
and
we
have
stakeholders
and
we
have
external
partners.
We
have
affinity
groups,
we
have
commissions,
we
have
staff
departments,
we
have
councils.
I
Sometimes
we
have
committees
of
either
commissions
or
of
council.
So
you
can
just
kind
of
imagine
the
flowchart
of
all
of
those
component
pieces
trying
to
work
together.
It's
just
complicated
and
and
more
involved
than
most
decision
making
models
in
a
business
or
even
a
nonprofit
setting.
So
our
goal
is
to
clarify
the
roles
and
responsibilities.
Someone
on
a
commission
the
other
evening
called
it
swim
lanes.
You
know
pick
your
kind
of
metaphor
or
description,
but
to
make
sure
that
each
of
those
component
pieces
works
in
conjunction
with
the
other,
that
they
all
add
value.
I
That
we
reduce
redundancies
et
cetera
et
cetera,
so
it
really
is
pretty
holistic.
In
that
way,
the
staff
report,
the
written
staff
report-
will
certainly
set
that
stage.
The
conversation
and
the
verbal
presentation
will
expand
on
that
and
introduce
a
handful
of
ideas.
I
think
we've
talked
about
some
of
them
conceptually
so
making
sure
that
before
council
does
priority
work
that
it's
always
checking
in
with
commissions.
If
the
council
then
solidifies
those
priorities,
then
that
feedback
gets
back
to
commissions
and
that
there
are
some
other
touch
points
during
the
year.
I
I'm
not
sure
how
it
will
work
long
term
for
things
like
having
say
two
council
members
or
a
mayor
and
a
council
member
present
at
each
commission
meeting,
because
there
are
pretty
substantial
demands
on
time,
but
if
we
can't
do
that,
what
can
we
do
to
make
sure
that
we
make
more
of
the
staff
liaisons
that
that
both
are
a
touch
point
with
council
and
with
me
as
administrative
staff
and
with
commissions?
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
strategies
that
we'll
be
putting
together.
We
are
looking
across
the
board
as
well
with
commissions.
I
It's
even
interesting
that
we,
I
still
want
to
say
boards
and
commissions,
because
we
call
some
boards,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
difference
is
between
a
board
and
a
commission
other
than
their
two
different
names.
And
so
we
want
to
just
clean
that
up.
If
we
can
the
size
of
commissions,
you
know,
should
they
do
something
to
mirror
what
we've
done
with
council
with
districts
as
as
just
one
component
piece.
So
so
there
are
lots
of
things
like
that
that
we'll
probably
introduce
and
part
of
that
conversation
will
be.
I
How
do
we
loop
that
back
in
with
the
commissions
again
to
get
some
feedback?
So
that's
what
we're
going
to
start
tuesday.
I
apologize
that.
I
know
this
has
been
kind
of
a
long
plotting
process,
but
we
are
trying
to
steer
a
significant
ship
so
to
speak,
and
it
is
a
bit
slow
and
iterative,
especially
as
we
try
to
keep
momentum
with
all
the
things
we're
doing
so.
I
can
answer
questions
if
there
are
any,
but
that's
what
we're
attempting
to
do.
B
I
mean
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
mayor
middleton,
councilman,
coors
and
city
manager,
clifton
for
coming
and
speaking,
we
realize
things
are
very
busy
and
we
have
actually
we
on
this
commission.
I
know
in
particular,
has
been
pushing
for
direction
and
policy
and
involvement.
So
we
welcome
this
and
we
were,
I
think,
probably
helped
instigate
or
added
somewhat
to
the
visioning
session
and
then
and
then
this
this
study
session.
B
So
we
are
excited
to
hear
what
your
direction
that
you
will
give
us
and
we
don't
expect
you
to
come
to
every
single
meeting.
But
we
appreciate
you
coming
to
this
one
and
definitely
hope
one
or
more
of
you
or
other
council
members
will
come
back.
Does
anybody
else
have
any
other
questions
for
city
manager
or
mayor
or
councilman?
J
Yeah
so
similarly,
I'm
very
appreciative
of
mayor,
middleton
and
and
councilmember
coors,
and
I'm
seeing
manager
clifton
for
coming
on
and
kind
of
just
talking
about
where
we
are.
J
J
I
just
kind
of
want
to
raise
that
question
since
we
have
been
so
deep
in
this
process
of
community
initiative
projects
outreach
to
the
community
and
you
know
giving
updates
to
applicants,
and
so,
if
that
is
part
of
the
you
know,
reprocess
mapping
it'd
be
great
to
kind
of
make
that
explicit
tonight
for
the
people
who
are
attending
today
and
also
you
know,
people
who
might
be
viewing
or
do
you
see
it
as
more
of
like
the
general
measure,
j
projects
that
are
kind
of
city-led.
I
I
I
don't
know
that
it's
gotten
far
enough
to
say
it
focuses
on
either
of
those
or
or
both
right.
I
think
what
we've
endeavored
to
do
and
what
we've
talked
about
in
the
visioning
sessions
is
to
examine
and
and
look
at
enabling
ordinances
look
at
activities
see
where
there's
consistency.
If
there's
inconsistency,
what
do
we
do
as
one
example?
I
Earlier
in
the
year
we
discovered
through
nobody's
fault,
but
when
we
looked
at
the
arts
commission,
it
was
doing
some
things
that
weren't
outlined
in
the
ordinance
that
just
happens
as
kind
of
decision
making
and
things
change.
What
they're
proposing
to
do
is
change
the
ordinance
rather
than
change
actions.
Now
that
will
still
have
to
go
to
council
and
get
approved,
but
it's
there
is
no
predetermined
conclusion
about
that
process.
I
think
we
do
want
some
consistency.
I
Whatever
happens,
I
don't
anticipate
it's
going
to
put
the
brakes
on
or
reverse
things
that
are
already
in
process,
so
there
I
don't
think,
there's
any
worry
about
lost
time
and
effort
that
you
would
get
so
far
down
the
road
and
we'd
come
back
and
say
sorry,
that's
that's
scrapped
with
something
like
the
the
cip
that
measure
j
has
already
considered
the
five-year
cip,
and
now
we
have
some
additional
strategic
direction
from
council.
It
may
be
that
the
combination
of
those
two
things
is
sufficient
to
do
some
small
revisions
and
let
it
go.
I
I
It's
really
a
broader
level
review
that
we're
just
starting
at
the
staff
level
to
look
at
those
enabling
ordinances
and
things
like
that
and
then
see
as
we
look
across
the
board.
What
makes
sense
and
it
could
be
very
minor
or
it
could
be
significant-
we
just
we
just
don't
know
yet.
Okay,
so.
I
Yes,
I
think
you
should
continue
the
work
you're
doing
without
a
doubt
and-
and
furthermore,
I
think
if
there
was
something
significant
and-
and
I
don't
think
this
will
happen,
but
let's
say
there
was
a
change
the
way
community
projects
were
done.
Well,
you
know
we
do
these
things
every
year,
so
we
can
line
that
out
for
a
future
year.
I
I
don't
think
there'll
be
any
wasted,
effort
or
energy
for
the
things
that
measure
j
has
done
before
or
the
things
you're
doing
doing
currently.
B
Okay,
then,
we
are
going
to
move
to
the
welcome
comments
from
the
measure
j
chair.
But
since
my
comments
were
either
that
or
related
to
the
emergency
agenda
item,
I'm
going
to
start
the
emergency
agenda
item
2a
with
my
comments-
and
I
want
to
just
clarify
a
few
things
about
the
measure
j
commission,
so
that
everybody
understands
that
we
are
an
advisory
commission.
B
B
We
work
very
hard
to
come
up
with
an
informed
recommendations
which
council
may
or
may
not
agree
with
in
my
term
as
commissioner.
That
has
both
happened.
We
are
the
commissioners
appointed
by
the
city
council
and
we
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
city
council
and
when
the
measure
j
tax
was
passed,
it
was
discussed.
The
oversight
commission
was
formed.
B
We
they
in
2015,
they
created
the
million
dollar
community,
initiated
projects
during
the
pandemic
year.
That
money
was
not
spent
and
in
the
current
year
it's
not
been
spent.
There
is
presumably,
but
there
is
no
budget
for
the
next
22
23
year
season
fiscal
year,
another
million
dollars
in
a
prior
measure,
j
commission
meeting.
We
asked
the
city
treasurer
and
finance
director.
If
that
meant,
we
would
have
three
million
dollars
available.
B
The
answer
was
that
potentially,
that,
probably
yes
but
again
it
would
have
to
go
before
city
council
for
approval
we
are,
and
so
we
worked
within
that
framework.
When
we
received
the
59
applications,
it
became
very
clear
that
it
made
sense
if
there
were
three
million
dollars
available,
that
we
consider
it
for
these
59
applications.
Given
how
worthy
they
were.
B
There
were
15
of
the
applications
that
were
removed
by
city
staff,
for
reasons
being
that
they
were
either
grants
sponsorships,
existed
on
tribal
land
or
otherwise
did
not
qualify
in
any
way
for
measure
j
funds.
B
We
agreed
in
this
meeting
that
that
it
would
make
sense
to
notify
the
applicants
that
they,
those
who
were
rejected,
and
that
happened
by
city
staff
I
did
offer
to
help,
but
the
city
staff
did
that
all
the
other
remaining
applications
are
on
it
as
to
the
evaluation
of
the
applications.
The
evaluation
was
actually
included
in
the
original
application
that
was
sent
out
by
the
city.
It
remains
in
the
application
and
is
still
available
on
the
city's
website.
B
Whether
the
project
was
to
make
palm
springs
a
safe,
desirable
place
to
live,
work
and
visit,
whether
the
project
benefited
the
majority
of
residents,
guests
and
or
tourists
in
our
city,
whether
the
project
improved
the
health
and
safety
of
our
residents
of
palm
springs,
whether
the
project
promoted
the
growth
of
tourism
in
the
city,
whether
the
project
provided
a
benefit
to
the
community
of
our
long
period
or
can
the
project
be
used
over
a
long
period
of
time?
Does
the
project
provide
a
positive
return
on
investment
to
the
city
of
palm
springs?
B
Does
the
project
create
jobs
in
the
city
of
palm
springs?
Is
the
project
sustainable
and
is
the
project
green?
We
initially
had
a
rating
system
when
all
the
applications
came
in.
It
became
very
clear
that
it
was
hard
to
give
an
actual
number
to
each
one,
and
so
we
agreed
to
take
those
into
consideration
and
make
a
recommendation
as
a
commission.
B
In
that
recommendation
we
had
three
options.
We
agreed
to
do
to
simplify
it
either.
Yes,
move
forward
with
community
initiated
prop
funding,
recommend
that
it
be
considered
for
the
regular
measure,
j
funds
or
not.
Consider,
then
those
tallies
were
then
sent
to
the
city
staff,
who
then
created
a
tally
sheet
and
distribute
it
to
the
entire
commission
is
on
this
week's
agenda.
It
is
posted
online.
B
I
think,
as
well
as
everybody's
individual
votes
and
as
a
point
of
fact,
I
should
say
the
measure
goal
of
the
measure
j
is
to
quote-
and
you
can
see
this
on
the
city's
website
to
maintain
local
community
services
and
revitalize
downtown
and
part
of
that
and
part
of
the
original
measure.
J
was
that
the
it
was
a
sales
tax
in
which
a
lot
of
that
tax
would
be
paid
by
tourists.
B
So
the
tourism,
why
not
a
major?
Well,
a
major
element
were
an
element
in
the
application
consideration.
B
I
should
point
out
that
the
individual
tallies
are
not
yet
up
on
the
website,
but
there
will
be.
I
also
want
to
clarify
that
I
joined
the
visit.
Greater
palm
springs
board
in
november
of
2021
and
they
have
not
put
any
proposals
before
measure
j.
I
joined
the
palm
springs
hospitality
association
in
january
of
2022.
I
joined
their
board.
B
They
have
had
no
involvement
with
measure
j
until
last
thursday
morning,
when
david
feltman,
who
is
also
a
board
member,
I
believe,
or
was
a
guest,
I'm
not
sure
when
he
asked
the
palm
springs
hospitality
association
to
write
a
letter
of
support
for
the
pickleball
initiative.
B
At
that
meeting,
I
recused
myself
from
the
discussion
and
I
abstained
from
any
voting
on
whether
to
write
that
letter
at
our
last
week
meeting.
We
also
had
a
discussion
that
commissioner
marshall
sits
on
the
board
of
the
mizell
and
could
not
participate
in
any
discussions
regarding
the
mizell.
B
I
also
want
to
clarify
about
the
five-year
plan.
The
five-year
plan
draft
was
sent
out
by
city
engineers
to
then
chair
gazan
in
in
march
of
2021,
another
draft
in
april
of
2021,
and
then
what
appeared
to
be
the
final
one
in
may
of
2021..
B
The
commission
has
reviewed
and
went
over
it.
We
did
not
go
over
in
great
detail
because
we
were
waiting
for
priorities,
but
it
is
not.
It
made
sense
to
do
a
five-year
plan,
as
we
all
discussed,
because
a
lot
of
these
projects
take
up
to
five
years
to
complete,
and
this
would
enable
funds
to
be
reserved
over
time
so
that
when
they
would
actually
be
needed
and
also
to
look
out
so
that
we
could
see
what
projects
would
be
needed
out
in
advance.
B
Again,
I
want
to
clarify
that
we
have
asked
all
city
council
members
in
writing
and
in
these
meetings
to
attend
our
meetings.
We've
invited
them
multiple
times,
probably
to
the
point
where
the
city,
manager
and
staff
are
getting
annoyed
with
us.
But
we
continue
to
say
to
stress
that
they
should
be
involved
in
our
in
our
meetings
and
again,
I
want
to
point
out.
We
have
no
authority
to
disperse
or
even
approve
allocation
of
funds,
and
that's
entirely
under
the
authority
of
city,
council
and
staff.
B
I
want
to
apologize
here
because
I
can't
speak
to
you
as
a
group
outside
of
this
meeting,
that
you
are
attacked
in
the
process
and
I'm
especially
upset
that
the
entire
measure
j
was
attacked.
This
is
this
has
been
a
huge
benefit
to
our
city
and
eventually
it
will
sunset
and
we
need
people
to
understand
the
importance
of
it
apologize
for
having
your
integrity
impugned.
B
E
E
E
I
was
also
told
that
if
I
would
like
to
consider
still
remaining
as
the
chair
of
parks
and
recreation,
which
I'm
very
proud,
that
we
did
the
first
pickleball
part
pickleball
court.
Excuse
me,
and
I
said
no-
my
interest
is
to
be
on
measure
j
exclusively
when
the
comments
were
made
by
a
council
member
that
to
to
me
it
infringed
on
our
integrity
and
our
honesty
and
our
sincerity.
There
was
implications
of
improprieties
in
regard
to
favoritism.
E
I
personally
resent
it
and
as
part
of
this
body,
I
would
like
to
propose
that,
unless
that
person
can
bring
documentation
to
back
up
the
statements
that
were
made,
that
we
receive
a
letter
of
apology
from
that
member
of
the
council
to
this
commission
and
that
this
be
done
and
be
considered
by
this
body
to
them
to
the
city
council.
E
J
Thank
you
chair,
and
it
was
a
very
comprehensive
explanation
of
our
process
and
kind
of
how
we
tried
to
stay,
productive
and
and
helpful,
especially
in
these
past
couple
years
of
covid,
as
the
measure
j
budget
has
kind
of
been
on
hold
around
some
of
the
questions
of
our
application
and
intentions
with
the
community
initiated
projects.
J
As
the
chair
mentioned,
I
was
part
of
the
subcommittee
that
made
the
application
with
my
colleagues,
commissioner,
craig
and
commissioner
footer,
and
we
worked
very
collaboratively
with
staff
who
so
graciously
gave
so
much
of
their
time
and
I'd
be
happy
to
clarify
any
specific
questions
about
our
process
of
the
development
of
the
application.
J
How
and
why
we
did
the
outreach,
as
we
did
kind
of
the
timeline
around
the
evaluation
and
really
what
our
goals
are
moving
forward.
It
there
seems
to
be
concern
with
not
a
lot
of
specificity,
so
I
would
welcome
that
conversation
and
I'd
be
happy
to
be
a
part
of
it,
but
yeah
just
for
the
integrity
of
this
process.
J
F
I
do
marshall,
yes,
I
just
want
to
back
that
up.
I'm
kind
of
torn
with
sid's
recommendation
to
be
honest,
but
having
been
on
there
before
and
being
honored
again,
I
I
really
felt
offended
on
the
questioning
of
the
integrity
of
this
commission,
so
I
don't
know
how
we
respond.
F
Is
it
one
of
those
things
is
maybe
best
to
just
leave
it
alone,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we
need
to
look
at
sunset
coming
up
and
I
think
it's
got
to
be
important,
that
the
community
understands
what
we've
done.
Why
we've
done
it
anyway.
I
I
just
I
kind
of
want
to
say
I'm
offended
having
spent
six
years
almost
seven
on
my
first
round
and
I
see
no
reason
to
question
without
being
very
specific
about
what
they're
complaining
about.
H
Yes,
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
application
that
our
sub
committee
worked
on
was
from
the
original
application
that
this
commission
had
used
many
years
ago.
We
took
it
and
we
brought
it
more
up
to
date
to
be
more
inclusive
of
our
community,
that's
different
than
it
was
ten
years
ago,
and
I
agree
with
protair
that
we're
open
to
discussion
it's
online.
It
was
available.
It's
very
clear.
H
My
personal
feeling
is,
I
think,
you've
made
it
very
clear
how
this
commission
works,
how
we
do
our
work
on
who
we
are
accountable
for,
and
I
think,
we've
taken
a
lot
of
our
time
tonight
that
we
should
be
looking
at
projects
and
how
we're
to
move
forward.
I
am
offended
it
blanks
in
all
of
us.
I
don't
think
chairman
should
apologize
to
us
you're,
a
very
credible
person
and
you've
led
this
commission
in
a
very,
very
professional
way.
H
I
would
like
to
see
us
move
on,
let
it
fall
where
it
may
be.
I
think
the
public
has
hurt
us
tonight
and
it's
time
that
we
get
down
to
our
business
this
evening.
We
could
talk
this
for
the
next
hour
or
so
so
we've
got
work
to
do
in
front
of
us
tonight.
We
have
people
here
to
speak
to
us
tonight,
so
I
I
personally
would
like
to
say:
let's
move
on
now,
I
thought.
C
K
If
you
look
back
at
this
commission,
you
know
they
learned
a
hard
lesson
when
measure
j
commission
first
started
and
they
were
overwhelmed
with
recommendations
so
much
so
that
they
decided
for
several
years
not
to
engage
the
public
per
se
for
outreach
on
community
projects.
First
of
all,
community
projects
didn't
exist
with
the
very
first
measure
j
commission.
It
came
out
of
hey.
We
want,
as
lisa
middleton
had
said
earlier,
that
certain
projects
that
the
public
is
looking
for,
we
should
really
support
and
get
behind.
K
Some
of
that
was
just
even
simple
road
repairs
around
the
city
and
for
several
years
to
avoid
maybe
being
overwhelmed
by
a
lot
of
input.
We
went
to
other
commissions
1ps
to
get
input
which
is
sort
of
an
aggregator
of
all
of
the
community
of
palm
springs.
To
look
for
ideas
for
that
little
1
million
dollars
to
spend
per
year
this
past
year.
We
decided
to
open
it
up
to
the
public
and
that
kind
of
puts
us
out
there,
and
I
was
shocked
that
you
know
you
would
think
you
would.
K
K
The
public
have
put
forth
about
59
different
projects
and
they've
done
it
respectfully,
and
we've
reviewed
those
respectfully
and
to
kind
of
get
that
feedback
from
someone
from
the
city
who
has
never
attended
one
of
our
meetings
and
would
also
not
only
attack
the
commission,
but
we
don't
live.
We
don't
do
these
meetings
in
a
bubble.
These
meetings
involve
and
have
involved
for
years,
the
city
manager,
the
director
of
finance,
the
assistant
city
manager,
engineering
staff.
We
look
to
them
for
recommendations,
then
we
send
our
ideas
and
recommendations
to
council.
K
You
are
also
insulting
and
putting
in
question
the
integrity
of
staff
at
city
hall
that
works
very
very
hard
and
by
the
way
it
takes
time
out
of
their
busy
schedule,
as
they're
very
overworked,
to
sit
and
be
a
part
of
these
commission
meetings.
So
I
think
that's
important.
I'm
proud
of
everything
we've
done.
I've
been
on
this
commission
for
five
years:
we've
done
everything
with
integrity
and
with
some
of
the
new
members
over
over
the
past
year
or
two.
K
You
know,
we've
really
done
a
lot
to
try
to
reach
out
to
the
community
to
make
the
community
heard
and-
and
we've
done
that,
and
I
feel
that
it's
been
very
successful.
So
that
is
it.
B
I'm
not
sure.
If
I
see
dennis
woods,
commissioner
councilman
woods
is
here:
I'm
not
sure
how
this
works.
If
you've
already
had
two
council
people
speak.
I
B
Okay,
are
there
any
other
commissioners
that
wanted
to
speak
on
this?
I
guess
everyone
spoke.
B
Again,
I'm
going
to
say
I
I
appreciate
that
I
I
I
actually
will
agree
with
commissioner
fodder
that
you
know
we
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
this
hopefully
we'll
go.
This
was
a.
I
don't
think
this
was
really
intended
on
an
attack
on
the
commission,
so
it
probably
is,
but
it
was
so
I'm
not
sure
whether
I
think
probably
we
should
go
on
with
our
work.
F
Certainly,
thank
you
very
much.
You
know
there
was
I'm
sorry
if
it
came
across
as
a
attack.
It
was
not
meant
to
be
that
whatsoever.
There
were
just
we
had
a
couple
of
neighborhood
meetings
and
we
didn't
have
the
information
in
those
neighborhood
meetings.
The
information
wasn't
online,
you
know,
and
there
was
just
a
variety
of
things
that
I
just
want
to
clear,
and
I
think
I
said
very
clearly.
F
B
C
J
If
do
we
want
beyond
just
looking
at
the
documents
and
videos
and
zooms
of
our
previous
meetings,
like
I
don't
know,
if
we
want
to.
J
If
the
council
member
woods
wants
to
send
x
y
z
questions
by
such
and
such
they,
I
just
don't
know.
If
there
are
questions
and
concerns,
I
mean
people
are
welcome
to
provide
public
comment
at
our
measure
j
meeting
again
third
thursday
of
the
month,
but
other
than
that.
I
am
just
unclear
as
to
what
the
council
member
needs
to
feel
like
he
has
his
answers.
His
questions
answered.
F
You
know
I
don't
have
any
real
questions.
F
I
just
as
I
said,
getting
all
this
stuff
up
online,
making
sure
there's
no
conflicts,
ensuring
the
public
of
all
of
that
is
really
my
goal
with
this,
nothing
more
as
I
said
so,
if,
if
we
can
get
it
all
up
in
line
which
I
think
we've
already
started,
I
think
the
grading
sheet
is
was
online
for
this
meeting,
which
is
a
a
tremendous
achievement
over
what
we've
been
doing,
because
you've
been
working
on
that
for
quite
some
time,
you
were
on
the
right
we're
on
the
right
path.
F
B
So
I
would
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
aware
that
on
our
agenda,
that
is
posted
online,
there
are
links
to
everything
when
the
agenda
is
posted.
B
B
B
J
Sorry
chair,
I
was
just
wondering:
do
we
want
to
use
our
last
time
to
hear
from
the
library
or
how
do
we
want
to
kind
of
deal
with
that,
since
we
are
good.
B
I
would,
I
would
suggest
that
we
do
nancy.
C
B
B
C
Okay
january
31st,
31st
of
2022
we're
at
7.8
million
compared
to
2021
at
6.4
million.
That
is
a
1.4
million
increase
over
the
prior
year.
The
audit
has
been
completed.
It
is
going
to
the
next
council
meeting.
I
will
update
actuals
for
the
march
meeting.
B
Nope,
I
think,
that's
great.
I
think
we
it's
good
news
for
measure
j
funds
in
general
and
for
the
revenue
and-
and
this
will
be
good
news
for
eventually
when
we
I
mean
for
when
we
have
the
the
discussions
on
the
regular
measure,
j
funds.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
need
for
spends
expenses,
so
this
is
great
news
for
our
city.
B
I
would
suggest
that
we
do
invite
the
move
on.
Do
anyone
have
anything
for
nancy
before
she
goes?
Okay,
I'm
going
to
suggest
we
have.
We
have
genie
case
and
ed
mcbride
to
talk
about
the
library
and
just
as
a
reminder,
I'm
sorry
we
kept
you
waiting
so
long
we
did
ask.
We
did
have
originally
funds
set
aside
for
the
library
pre-pandemic,
some
of
which
was
a
unallocated.
There
was
a
1.4
million
which
was
then
put
on
hold.
You
then
presented
this
it.
B
There
is
something
in
the
five-year
plan
which
is
posted
on
on
as
part
of
the
the
may
28th
agenda
that
you
can
see
there,
but
I
know
you
also
put
a
community
initiated
project,
so
the
commission
thought
it
would
be
very
useful
for
you
to
present
the
general
library
plan
so
that,
as
we
can,
as
we
you
know,
make
recommendations,
we
understand
the
whole
scope
of
what
you're
looking
at.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
waiting.
O
Chair
bernstein
and
commissioners,
thank
you
for
having
us
tonight
and
it's
a
real
pleasure
to
be
here
and
to
be
able
to
speak
with
you
guys
tonight.
I'm
going
to
be
doing
the
presentation
and
jeannie
is
across
town
and
she's
going
to
be
clicking
through
this,
so
bear
with
us
as
we
do
this
through
modern
technology.
O
My
name
is
ed
mcbride.
I
am
currently
the
chair
of
the
library
board
of
trustees,
I'm
also
a
resident
of
palm
springs
and
a
business
owner
here
in
palm
springs.
Some
of
you
may
not
know
this,
but
by
education
I
am
a
librarian
and
it
was
a
librarian
for
almost
40
years
of
my
professional
career.
So
I
love
libraries.
I've
worked
in
libraries,
I've
worked
around
libraries
and
then
I
got
into
the
the
hair
business.
I
won't
go
into
that
tonight,
but
it's
it's.
O
It's
a
story,
that's
to
be
told
over
beer
somewhere,
but
libraries
are
such
an
important
part
of
our
community,
and
I
have
been
on
the
board
of
trustees
now
for
five
and
a
half
years.
My
term
will
be
up
at
the
end
of
june,
but
I'm
not
going
away.
I
plan
on
being
a
huge
supporter
of
libraries,
so
tonight
what
jeannie-
and
I
wanted
to
do
was
to
answer
your
questions
as
best
we
can
through
a
slideshow
and
then
have
time
for
you
to
ask
questions
of
us
about
the
priorities
of
the
library.
O
So
jeanne
first
slide
what
I
would
start
with
as
an
archivist
and
as
a
librarian.
We
always
cite
our
our
source
right,
so
I
thought
you
might
get
a
tickle
out
of.
If
you
look
at
the
image
here.
This
is
the
original
brochure
that
was
used
for
our
community
to
inform
everyone
about
measure
j
and
the
importance
it
was
to
our
community.
O
There
was
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
given
to
the
main
library
for
planning.
There
was
forty
seven
thousand
dollars
given
to
computers.
Now
I
I
can't
promise
you,
those
computers
are
still
around
because
that
was
a
long
time
ago,
but
we
also
spent
782
446
dollars
for
the
willwood
murray
memorial
renovation.
O
So
so
far
today,
now
someone
can
correct
my
numbers,
but
980
246
dollars
of
measure
j
funds
have
been
spent
on
the
public
library
so
far,
next
slide
now,
I'm
I
have
formed
this
and
I
know
we're
all
kind
of
getting
weary
of
this,
but
I
want
to
talk
pre-covet
and
then
I'm
going
to
talk
about
postcode
pre-covered,
the
library
board
of
trustees
paid
at
that
time
for
a
community
involved
meeting
at
the
convention
center.
O
We
hired
consultants
to
come
in
and
we
felt
it
was
important
at
that
particular
time
in
our
in
our
history
that
our
our
strategic
plan
was
dated
and
needed
to
be
updated.
Looking
forward
to
where
we
would
be
going
so
in
january
2019
we
had,
we
filled
up
one
of
the
larger
meeting
rooms
at
the
convention
center
with
community
members,
and
we
also
had
at
that
time,
council
member
middleton
council
member
hostage.
We
had
the
city
manager,
dr
reddy
was
there.
O
It
was
a
wonderful
meeting
where
so
many
people
spoke
up
about
what
they
would
like
to
see
from
our
library
going
forward
and
about
that
time
it
was
in
that
meeting.
It
was
really
clear.
The
citizens
want
to
see
something
with
the
library
they
want
to
see
a
new
library
and
it's
been
talked
about
and
we've
had
plans
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
false
starts,
but
they
really
want
to
see
something
with
the
library.
O
So
the
city
council
responded
in
august
2019
to
have
a
committee
formed
that
I
chaired
some
of
you
actually
were
on
that
committee.
Where
we
examined
the
possible
location,
should
we
move
it?
It
was
a.
It
was
a
question
that
came
up
in
that
meeting.
We
looked
at
five
possible
sites
over
about
three
months
and
evaluated
those
we
all
came
to
the
conclusion
with
much
much
community
input
that
our
citizens
love
the
library
and
sunrise
park,
that's
where
they
want
it
to
stay
and
that's
where
they
want
it
to
be.
O
Now
I
want
to
note
that
it
was
not
determined
what
that
building
will
look
like
necessarily,
but
it
was
determined
that
they
want
us
to
stay
there.
So
that's
a
that's
a
message
that
we've
been
committed
to
the
other
thing,
too,
is.
As
as
chair
bernstein
mentioned,
there
was
six
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
to
be
exact,
that
a
former
metro
j
commissioner,
came
to
the
trustees
and
said
this
is
money
that
has
been
left
over
and
we
want
you
guys
to
use
it.
O
What
do
you
want
to
use
it
for,
and
you
know
we
thought?
Okay?
Where
can
we
go
with
that
money
and
we
decided
we
being
by
the
way,
the
trustees
that
we
would
use
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
extend
the
contract
of
our
current
consultants,
who
are
library,
consultants
to
begin
the
planning
program,
part
of
a
new
library?
And
what
that
really
means
is
it's
having
the
community
engaged
to
tell
us
what
that
needs
to
go
into
that
library
or
to
that
building?
So
it's
planning
it
from
the
inside
out.
O
The
other
part
of
it
is
at
that
time
on
the
board
of
trustees,
who
is
now
chair
of
the
planning
commissioning,
commissioner
trustee
wimrick
had
an
idea.
She
called
me,
and
she
said:
let's
go
look
at
that
building.
That's
all
boarded
up
next
to
the
library
and
we
found
out
that
it
was
part
of
the
library.
O
It's
called
the
jc
fry
building
and
we
went
over
one
day
got
in
there
and
it's
been
used
for
a
storage
room
for
our
friends
organization
and
jeannie
and
and
just
in
a
conversation
we
came
up
with
the
idea
that
we
could
remodel
that
building
inclu
and
build
in
that
building
on
meeting
facilities,
which
was
very
high
on
the
priority
of
the
public.
O
O
That's
that
was
a
quote
a
round
about
price
that
city
hall
gave
us
that,
and
at
that
time
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
recalling
who
consulted
with
that,
but
it
was
consulted
with
the
city
and
they
said
that's
probably
about
what
it
would
take
to
redo
that
building,
and
then
it
became
evident
to
us
that
what
other
purpose
this
building
could
use
is
that
during
the
main
library,
renovation
or
construction,
it
could
serve
as
an
outlet
to
library
service
to
our
community
guestware
in
sunrise
park
and
allow
us
to
extend
service
there.
O
So
keep
that
in
mind
next
slide.
Please
now
here's
the
answer
to
your
questions
about
what
are
your
priorities.
Now
we've
gone
through
this
horrible
epidemic,
it's
impacted
all
of
us
and
our
community.
Well,
our
first
question
is:
where
is
our
623
thousand
dollars?
We
would
sure
love
to
have
it
back
now.
I
understand
tonight.
O
This
group
is
not
to
tell
us
where
we
can
find
that
money,
but
it
sure
would
be
nice
if
we
could
get
some
support
and
find
out,
at
least
is
that
money,
and
let
me
literally,
this
is
a
story
that
the
day
we
were
shut
down,
the
community,
the
contracts
for
all
of
these
things
were
sitting
on
the
city
manager's
desk,
to
execute
and
it
was
frozen
along
with
all
of
your
budget.
O
So
if
you
know
we
all
just
it
just
let
us
all
be
very
disappointed
that
we
had
worked
so
hard
to
get
us
that
far
and
the
check
just
went
through
our
fingers.
We
never
saw
the
check.
We
never
even
saw
the
contract
now.
So
I
I
put
that
in
there
jess,
but
it
is
really,
I
think,
important
for
you
guys
as
we
go
through
the
rest
of
this
presentation
to
keep
that
in
mind.
O
So
in
april
of
2021,
you
guys
were
just
talking
about
this.
I
listened
to
the
measure
j
proceedings
where
you
guys
were
beginning
to
come
back
alive
and
look
at
your
priorities
in
your
budget,
and
I
will
tell
you
it
was.
It
was
with
great
joy
that
I
saw
that
the
library
did
not
fall
out
of
that
list.
We
were
still
prominently
in
there
and
we
were
very
thankful
for
that.
O
So
when
you
read
that
application,
I
hope
that
you
now
understand
that
there's
a
lot
of
hard
work
behind
that
application,
a
lot
of
history
and
a
lot
of
communities
and
support
so
that
we
can
do
something
for
our
library
and
we
sure
would
love
measure
j
to
award
us
something
and
be
that
fourth
partner
year,
two
in
the
budget,
where,
by
the
way,
let
me
go
back
here.
Our
priorities
are
your
priorities.
O
We
we
haven't
changed,
we've
aligned
our
expectations
to
what
you
guys
are
seeing
and
what
you
guys
are
hopefully
moving
forward
in
year,
two
there
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
planning,
and
we
made
the
assumption
that
this
is
now
beginning
to
tell
us
our
our
question.
Number
one
is:
where
did
our
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
go?
It
probably
was
reallocated
and
pushed
into
future
years.
So
that's.
We
understand,
that's
probably
to
answer
that
next
slide.
O
Please
and
the
five-year
plan
year,
three
there
for
the
first
time
appears
two
million
dollars
for
the
main
library
renovation.
Now
I
I
want
to
say
that
it
was
very
our
instruction
to
the
trustees
from
city
council
was
that
we
want
to
be
careful
that
it
might
be
a
renovation.
O
At
that
time
we
had
a
city
council
member
who
suggested
we
start
all
over
again,
so
those
questions
really
haven't
been,
I
think,
decided
that's
where
we
were
hoping
to
be
by
now,
but
those
are
still
questions
and
then
finally,
the
480
thousand
dollars
for
the
fry
building
renovation.
By
the
way,
the
picture
you
see
there,
that
is
the
fry
building.
It's
on
our
campus.
I
call
it
our
campus
and
we
envision
that
being
totally
remodeled.
O
It's
a
beautiful
mid-century
building
and
it
would
be
an
extension
of
the
library
program
and
if
you
could
imagine
when
you
pull
into
our
our
parking
lot,
it's
on
the
left
and
then
the
library
is
on
the
right.
So
it
is
a
great
building
and
I
think
great
potential
in
year,
four
another
four
million
in
year-
five,
another
four
million.
So
the
the
plan
was
that
this
money
would
start
coming
to
us
so
that,
hopefully,
by
by
the
year
2025
26
we
we
have
turned
the
ground.
O
We
are
working
on
something
happening
with
the
main
library
and
we
have
our
other
facilities,
all
ready
and
they're
all
done
next
next
slide
genie.
Now
here's
something
that
has
recently
developed
that
is
worth
noting,
and
we
wanted
to
share
with
you
all
two
really
important
things.
The
first
thing
the
california
state
library,
has
announced
an
infrastructure
grant.
They
have
over
439
million
dollars
to
give
out
to
libraries.
O
The
highest
is
10
million
dollars
that
we
potentially
could
apply
for
and
use
the
measure
j
budget.
As
the
matching
funds
that's
required.
I
can
tell
you
from
my
own
experience
of
working
with
the
california
state
library
they
love
projects
like
this.
They
love
to
see
their
investment
in
community
libraries
and
make
them
stronger.
Now
they
don't
want
to
pay
for
the
pretty
things
they
want
to
pay
for
the
things
that
make
that
facility
strong
and
worthwhile
for
a
long
investment.
We
really
as
a
city
cannot
let
this
opportunity
slip
through
our
hands.
O
10
million
is
a
lot
of
money
that
will
help
us
do
a
lot
when
it
comes
to
brick
and
mortar,
for
whatever
building
we
go
with
and
then.
Finally,
the
trustees
which
I
chair,
the
friends
which
have
been
such
generous
partners,
they
provide
so
many
things
to
our
community
and
our
foundation,
which,
over
the
last
during
the
covet
shutdown
they've,
been
working
very
hard
to
raise
money
and
they
raised
about
two
hundred.
O
B
Questions
I
have
a
quick
question.
Is
yes,
sir?
The
10
million
is
it
you
would
have
to
city
would
still
have
to
spend
10
million
to
get
that
other
10
million.
Yes,
sir,
it.
B
State
that's
correct
so,
but
they
we
couldn't,
spend
five
and
get
five
from
them
and
get
to
your
10
million
goal.
Well,
the
10.
O
Million
dollars
is
the
maximum
they'll,
give
any
single
library
now
jenny.
You
can
correct
me
on
that,
but
if
we
had
5
million
applied
for
5
million,
then
we
would
get
to
10
million
you're
correct,
but
the
we
we're
asking
that
you
know.
10
million
is
a
lot
of
money.
If
we
could
match
the
10
million
right,
you're,
correct.
N
We
have
to
justify
what
we're
asking
for
so
we're
working
on
the
on
the
list
right
now
and
the
grant's
due
march
21st,
so
so
yeah
we
would.
We
would
we're
evaluating
what
we
can.
What
we
can
ask
for
and
then
essentially
do
the
sum
and
do
I
didn't
happen
and
match.
Okay.
O
I
think
another
answer
to
that
question
jeffrey
is
that
if
this
we
know
the
city
money
will
go
for
infrastructure
and
go
for
a
building.
This
would
just
give
us
some
more
money
to
make
sure
that
we
we,
whatever
infrastructure
investment
we
make,
is
more
there.
This
can't
go
towards
furniture
and
books
and
that
sort
of
stuff
that
will
have
to
be
well
we're
ready
to
raise
that
if
we
have
to
with
the
foundation
and
the
friends
and
trustees.
B
Thank
you
and
joel,
can
you
confirm?
Is
this?
Are
these
funds
still
in
the
current
five-year
plan,
that's
being
presented
or
shown
to
city
council.
F
B
In
okay,
well,
I
believe-
and
I
don't
want
to
speak-
you
know
that
we
supported
this
being
included.
Everything
did
get
delayed
from
everything
with
measure
j
right,
so
we
had
actually
put
one
again.
We
had
also
put
1.4
million
aside
right
before
I
think
for
when,
when
we
understood
the
plans,
so
I
think,
as
it
stands
in
the
five-year
plan,
when
we
saw
it
the
first
time
we
we
expressed
support
for
it
did
any
other
commissioners
want
to
speak
on
this.
H
I
support
this
wholeheartedly.
We
have
enough
plans
as
ed
and
jamie,
and
I
know
I-
I
really
think
we
have
to
move
forward
to
give
the
library
what
they
have
asked
for
for
years
and
years
and
years.
However,
we
do
it
so
I
I
give
the
library
100
of
my
support.
H
It
is
a
major
community
activity
and
I'm
delighted
you've
all
come
to
me
that
sunrise
park
is
the
place.
It
should
be
what
the
building
is
going
to
be.
You
know
what
my
preferences
are
about
that.
So,
if
there's
any
way,
we
could
get
that
kind
of
money
from
the
library
association
and
support
it
can
we
can
we
budget
that
out,
like
joelle,
has
done-
maybe
not
all
10
million
now
but
plug
it
in
for
the
next
few
years
joelle.
Could
we
do
that,
and
would
that
help
you
get
your
funding
the.
N
The
grant
obligations,
if
we
do
get
the
grant,
we
are
required
to
spend
the
money
by
2026.
So
the
next
time.
B
Okay,
well,
presumably
this
will
go
before
city
council.
I
I
I
believe
you
know,
as
the
five-year
plan
stood.
It
didn't
actually
use
all
of
the
measure
j
funds
anyway
and
we
supported
it.
I
don't
know
we
actually
took
an
official
vote
of
support,
but
I
think
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
do
this.
You
know
so
the
question
really
and
then
was:
how
does
that
hundred
thousand
come
out
of
the
community
initiated
projects?
B
And
my
guess
is
that
city
council
might
want
to
put
everything
into
the
regular
measure
j
funds,
but
I
I
can't
speak
for
them.
Did
any
other
commissioners
want
to
comment
on
this?
It's
now
703..
So
here's
to
robin.
A
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
and
a
suggestion
for
the
measure:
jay
commission,
a
question
for
the
library
friends,
sorry
for
the
pun,
for
our
friends
who
are
here
visiting
from
the
library
and
friends
of
the
library
the
application
you
have
in
for
for
the
match.
Does
it
require
that
you
that
you
make
a
commitment
in
your
application
that
there
actually
is
designated
funding
from
the
city
now
or
can
that
just
be
a
subsequent
condition
on
receipt
of
funds.
N
It
is,
and
there
are
two
two
things
that
have
to
happen:
the
city
has
to
apply
for
the
grant.
So
in
order
to
do
that,
we
have
to
take
that
to
city
council
to
get
authorization
knowing
full
well
that
whatever
we're
applying
for
they're
committed
it's
optional
to
have
the
resolution
that
says:
we've
we've
got
the
money
set
aside.
Now,
if
you
do
get
the
grant,
it's
a
requirement.
A
Okay,
so
it
sounds
like
it's
possible
for
for
this
to
to
send
this
to
to
submit
this
with
hope,
rather
than
with
certainty
of
funding
from
the
city
side.
Okay,
good.
Thank
you
and
the
the
suggestion
that
I
have
for
measure
j,
and
I
I
when
I
hear
pickleball
in
a
different
setting,
I
have
the
same
reaction,
which
is,
I
think,
without
getting
into
subcommittees
my
own
personal
view,
without
getting
into
subcommittees.
A
I
think
it
would
be
productive
for
not
only
the
library
but
also
parks
and
recs
to
have
a
liaison
from
measure
j
to
just
have
have
regular
dialogue
on
a
less
formal
basis
and
certainly
more
frequently
than
once
a
month
and
in
the
same
breath.
I
think
commissioner
federer
would
be
a
tremendous
liaison
for
the
library
given
the
knowledge
base
she
already
has,
but
I'm
suggesting
this
with
the
sense
that
at
least
one
person
knowing
a
lot
more
than
most
of
us,
do
on
the
day-to-day
thinking
of
the
library
and
the
same
vein.
A
In
the
same
vein,
the
parks
and
recs,
which
is
a
frequent
visitor
to
our
window.
Having
that
kind
of
information
in
one,
maybe
more
people
on
a
subcommittee
basis
would
be
productive.
B
Okay,
I
do
know
that
city
manager
has
raised
questions
about
whether
commissions
any
commission
should
have
subcommittees
so,
but
I
will,
I
am
happy
to.
I
know
that
they're
having
their
session
next
week
so
prior
to
that,
I
could
suggest
whether
it
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
to
have
liaisons
and
the
different
ones
yeah.
But
I
want
to
be
careful
about
anything
conflicting
with
what
their
plans
are,
but
just
add
it
as
a
suggestion
that,
if
it
would
make
sense,
good.
A
H
But
I
have
a
question
here:
this
is
a
big
capital
project
with
the
library
this
has
been
years
and
years
and
years
and
years
ad
nauseam.
We
always
think
I'm
gonna
be
dead
before
we
ever
see
this
happen.
So
do
me
a
favor,
but
you
have
asked
under
community
projects
jeannie
for
a
room
revision.
H
H
O
Future,
that's
when,
when
the
community
grant
opportunity
was
presented-
and
we
heard
about
it-
we
felt
like
this
was
an
opportunity
for
us
to
go
back
to
that.
If
you
remember
we,
we
had
had
money
that
we
were
going
to
try
to
create
some
meeting
space
in
the
main
library
because
the
community
keeps
asking
for
it.
So
we
thought
oh
there's
another
opportunity
for
us
to
find
some
money
through
maybe
measure
j,
to
take
some
a
current
facility
and
create
this
meeting
room.
O
So
I
think
I'm
answering
your
question
is
that
no
this,
I
I
heard
from
my
invitation,
was
to
talk
about
that
project,
but
to
also
share
with
you
all
our
long-term
priorities
so
that
as
you're
looking
at
it
all
this
makes
sense.
Now
the
logical
question
might
be.
Why
do
you
want
to
do
something
to
that
current
building?
Well,
that
current
building
renovation
or
whatever
it
might
be
it's
five
or
six
years
ago,
you
will
be
there
to
cut
the
ribbon
linda.
O
I
promise
I
don't
know
I'll
be
there
with
you
holding,
we
might
be
in
wheelchairs,
but
we
sure
are
going
to
be
there.
O
So
to
answer
your
question,
we
feel
like
it
tells
the
community
that
we
are
investing
something
our
support
groups
are
willing
to
write
checks
to
help
make
this
happen.
So
it's
not
that
that
if
we
don't
get
enough,
we'll
find
the
money
to
make
this
happen.
So,
yes,
I
think
that
you,
you
heard
us
loud
and
clear
answer
your
question.
B
So
I
I
think
what
have
we're
not
gonna
have
time
to
talk
about
any
community
initiative
projects
we
can.
But
we
now
have
a
lot
of
information
that
was
extremely
helpful
and
really
really
useful
to
hear
and
and
it's
exciting.
F
Yeah,
sorry
yeah,
you
know
having
started
with
measure
j
and
yes,
I
think
it
is
a
priority
that
we
need
to
address.
One
of
the
questions
that
always
came
up
is:
what
is
the
future
of
a
library
I
mean
it
may
not
be
what
we
grew
up
with.
F
How
are
we
have
they
updated
the
plans
to
get
us
back
into
the
or
caught
up
with
the
current
media,
yeah
computers,
whatever
sure.
O
Yeah,
commissioner
marshall,
if
I
could
tell
you
if
I
got
a
dollar
for
every
time,
I've
answered
that
question.
I
would
be
a
millionaire
and
I
would
donate
the
money
to
the
library
yeah
it's
as
a
librarian,
so
that
you
you
remember,
I
mentioned
that
there
is
a
study
and
a
plan
that
libraries
do,
which
is
called
a
a
planning.
So
we
take
those
very
topics
and
we
listen
to
the
community
and
yes,
books
are
a
technology
that
are
still
used
in
our
library.
O
But
if
our
community
says
we
want
an
archive
of
gay
lesbian
history
or
we
want
a
a
gallery
or
whatever
we
might
want,
as
a
community
that's
fed
into
what
the
library
is
no
longer
a
place
for
books,
it
is
from
community
meetings.
It's
for
a
lot
of
things.
So
to
answer
your
question,
that's
all
part
of
the
planning
process
where
we
listen
to
what
the
community
wants.
We
also
have
consultants
that
are
nationally
known
who
say:
libraries
are
moving
in
this
direction.
You
need
to
be
going
in
that
direction.
F
That's
why
I
want
to
know-
and
I
will
add
just
for
the
rest
of
council
when
I
was
on
there
it.
I
think
it's
really
smart
for
us
to
look
how
we
can
match
or
get
these
matching
funds.
H
F
O
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
hope
I
answered
your
questions.
I'm
always
available
to
come
and
answer
questions.
I
I
love
doing
that
up
for
the
library
and
the
library
community
appreciates
everything
you
guys
are
doing,
and
we
know
that
this
is
gonna.
This
is
going
to
happen
we
are
going
to
have.
I
will
tell
you.
O
B
Yes,
so
obviously
we
don't
have
time
to
meet
again.
So
I
think
what
would
be
if
the
commission,
that
perhaps
we
perhaps
we
just
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
take
any
action
or
if
we
want
to
let
the
you
know
hope,
should
give
our
support
behind
the
city
getting
behind
the
what
it
takes
to
get
this
grant.
We
could
also
do
that
in
a
in
a
separate
letter.
N
Yeah,
I
think
I,
I
think,
emotion,
maybe
not
emotional
or
letter
support
to
the
council-
that
that
you
think
this
is
a
great
idea.
It's
going
before
the
city
council
on
march
10.
N
So
they
can,
they
can
budget
that
money
out
of
their
own
budget.
They
can
borrow
the
money
they
could.
They
could
do
a
variety
of
different
things
to
to
use.
They
can
do
community
fundraising,
but
they
just
need
to
show
a
commitment
that
they
will
get
the
money.
B
Yeah
yeah.
B
I
think
we
would
have
to
leave
it
that
there
is
a
potential
10
million
grant
and
they
obviously
have
they're
going
into
their
study
session.
So
we're
not
going
to
have
time
to
give
them
a
formal
recommendation
before
it,
but
we
would
encourage
them
to
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
to
apply
to
get
some
or
all
of
that
10
million
dollars.
Yeah.
That's
how
I
would
phrase
it.
K
E
A
I
may
I
I
was
processing
this
that,
where,
let
me
let
me
try
and
speak
and
edit
edit
at
the
same
time
that,
as
far
as
a
motion
goes,
the
description
that
we've
received
for
the
upcoming
application
that
needs
to
be
presented
to
the
city
council
includes
funding,
needs
that
are
generally
consistent
with
what
we've
included
in
the
cip.
A
B
So
I
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can
actually
make
a
make
a
motion,
given
that
this
wasn't
agendized
as
such,
it
was
a.
It
was
a
presentation,
so
I
mean
we
can
reach
this
consensus
and
it
would
be
in
the
minutes
that
we
have
reached
that.
We
would
encourage
the
city
to
move
forward
yeah,
but
yeah,
but
and-
and
I
would
ask
that
everyone
just
be
sure
that
is
in
the
minutes
and-
and
we
can-
I
can
notify
separately
city
council
that
this
was
in
the
minutes.
F
And
can
we
have
a
special
short
meeting
just
to
get
this
done
before
the
10th
of
march?
I'm
just
I'm
gonna
weigh
in.
F
The
the
money
has
always
been
in
the
measure
jay's
projects
to
look
ahead,
and
I
actually
memorialized
that
by
putting
it
in
the
cip,
so
yeah
we're
gaining
any.
Maybe
I
was
speaking
out
trying
the
commission's
not
gaining
anything
by
trying
to
make
another
meeting
or
commit
or
send
a
letter
to
the
council.
I
think
the
council
is
well
aware
of
what
the.
F
We
will
get
their
approval
to
commit
city
funds.
I
either
remember
jay
or
regular
funds
for
it,
so
I
don't
think
you
guys
are
beating
anything
by
taking
any
actions
today.
Okay,
right,
joel
and.
N
Commissioner,
just
I,
I
appreciate
the
time
that
we
were
able
to
give
a
presentation,
and
we
really
it's
not
like
joel
said
it's
not
it's
not
mandatory
or
necessary
for
you
to
have
any
special
meetings
or
do
any
special
things
for
this.
It
will
just
be
an
application
to
and
with
the
second.
B
And
with
that,
it
is
now
7
17,
so
I'm
afraid
we're
going
to
have
to
end.
Do
we
have
a
a
motion
to
adjourn?
H
B
Okay,
this
meeting
is
now
adjourned
at
7,
17
p.m.
Thank
you,
and,
and
chris.