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A
B
C
Graph,
no
mr.
chairman,
less
of
the
AEC,
so
we
do
have
three
members
of
the
AAC
that
are
out
today.
Remember
Tom,
dozy
member
sean
lock
here
and
members.
The
polling
are
all
out
previously
I'm
asked
so
I'm
gonna
call
the
roll
of
those
that
are
here
so
I
start
with
member
John.
Walsh
I
am
here
remember:
John
McCoy
here.
C
C
A
B
John
and
John
all
right.
Okay,
since
this
is
a
public
meeting
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue.
That's
within
this
committee's
purview
comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
that
that
item
is
presented.
If
you
want
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda,
you
may
speak
now.
Each
speaker
would
have
three
minutes
seeing
none.
The
minutes
from
the
last
meeting
have
not
been
completed,
so
we're
not
going
to
be
reviewing
or
perving
those
made
minutes
at
this
meeting,
that'll
be
in
our
next
meeting.
F
If,
if
you'd
like
to
see
them,
we
can
put
them
up
on
the
boards
and
the
applicant
has
a
series
of
slides
and
blow
ups.
Also
that
will
have
on
the
screens
before
you.
So
the
AEC
made
a
couple
recommendations.
One
was
that
pedestrian
circulation
there
need
to
be
a
pedestrian
circulation
connection,
and
let
me
go
to
a
site
plan
here
that
from
taco
it's
Canyon
way
into
the
shop
into
the
actual
Center
building
elevations
generally
had
lacked
rhyme
and
reason.
There
were
some
questions
about
the
building
materials
and
composition.
F
There
was
a
question
about
stone,
material
scale
and
overall
height
of
the
building
mechanical
screening
on
the
roof.
There's
questions
about
the
elevations,
the
sunrise
way
elevation.
You
need
additional
treatment,
articulation
on
the
building
and
you
might
consider
using
screening
material
plant
materials
will
soften
the
elevation.
Let
me
go
to
some
of
these
slides.
There
was
a
question
about
the
internals
how
the
workings
of
the
building
were
going
to
be
so
there's
an
exhibit
showing
what
what
the
floor
plan
is
inside,
showing
the
different
elements
of
the
building.
F
There
were
some
questions
about
the
roof.
This
is
showing
mechanical
screening
and
where
all
the
air-conditioning
equipment
would
be,
and
in
the
building
elevations
there
was
a
question
about
landscape
materials,
install
palm
trees.
According
to
section
14
plan,
the
location
of
a
trash
enclosure
along
that
would
be
visible
from
sunrise
way,
the
employee
break
area
at
the
corner
of
of
taka
wits
and
Alejo,
and
then
lighting
use
warm
lighting
and
cool
temperatures.
And
then
the
committee
concurred
with
the
staff
recommendation
on
other
elements
of
the
building.
F
So,
as
I
mentioned,
the
applicant
is
here
to
go
over
some
of
these
changes.
We
have
some
ice.
Some
3d
renderings
that
we'd
like
to
go
over
showing
the
different
elements
of
the
building,
some
designs
of
the
interior.
With
the
discussion
of
the
large
glass
facade
that
faces
the
parking
lot
and
then
we
have
a
landscape
plan.
If
it
there,
we
go
a
landscape
plan
that
shows
some
plantings
on
the
pad
for
the
future
development
of
the
corner
and
then
additional
landscaping
along
chocolates
and
within
the
interior
of
the
lot.
G
B
A
question
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
for
engineering
or
for
planning
there's
three
power
poles
that
are
running
the
length
of
the
site
that
are
not
on
the
property
line
they're
about
ten
feet
in
from
the
property
line.
Do
you
know,
are
they
planning
to
underground
those
powers
and
remove
the
poles,
or
are
they
going
to
be
required
to
do
that?.
B
B
B
H
H
Edison
abandoning
it
and
relocating
it
on
their
own
and
also
whether
or
not
they
want
it
relocated,
because
when,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
comes
down
to
Edison
deciding
whether
or
not
it's
a
good
idea
or
not,
it's
only
required
to
be
under
grounded
if
it's
under
35,000
kilovolts,
if
it's
over
35,000,
it
remains
in
place.
So
that's
part
of
the
undergrounding
requirements
insurance.
H
You
could
theoretically
have
35,000
kilovolts
on
one
set
of
lines
and
then
the
upper
set
of
lines
be
something
higher,
so
it
doesn't
do
any
good
to
make
them
underground
the
bottom
reach,
because
the
the
end
result
is
to
try
to
get
rid
of
the
poles
right.
The
poles
are
still
there.
There's
no
reason
to
do
it
so
and.
H
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
talks
with
sun
line
and
sun
line.
The
applicant
reached
out
to
sun
line
to
find
out
was:
is
that
location
absolutely
necessary
and
is
there
a
reason
why
it
couldn't
be
moved
to
sunrise
and
the
reason
for
it
not
being
proposed
on
sun
rises'?
Sun
line
did
not
currently
have
a
route
on
that
portion
of
sunrise
from
talked
with
south.
H
They
did
mm-hmm,
but
not
north
of
tok
woods
and
since
then,
they've
decided
that
they're
gonna
put
that
route
back
in
and
they
have
agreed
to
allow
them
to
move
the
bus
stop
from
tahquitz
to
sunrise.
So
you
can
see
on
that
site
when
they're
on
that
site
plan,
they're
right
where
the
sun
sunrise
way
label
is
that's
their
entrance,
and
so
the
driveway
will
be
moved
in
a
little
bit.
F
H
B
On
topless,
nothing
on
tok
woods.
Thank
you,
Rick!
Any
other
questions
of
staff
being
men
I
see
the
applicant
is
here.
Would
you
like
to
give
us
a
little
review
of
all
that
you've
done
and
I'd
like
to
say
you
did
an
amazing
amount
of
work
in
two
weeks,
so
it's
it's
nice
to
see.
You
responded
well
to
us.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
for
accommodating
thanks
to
the
city
and
the
planning
department
for
coming
out
in
a
quick
schedule
were
under
some
deadlines.
It
says
County
Building
as
you
know,
and
they
have
a
deadline
because
they
sold
their
other
building
to
get
into
this
building.
So
we
appreciate
you
expediting
a
review
again.
I
Let
me
talk
it
to
the
electrical.
What
I
know
they
have
been
working
with
Edison
and
the
idea
is
to
put
it
underground.
I
can't
tell
you
how
far
that
agreement
is,
but
they
have
been
working
directly
with
Edison
on
that.
That's
not
part.
It
probably
is
going
to
become
part
of
a
stipulation
of
a
building
department,
type
stipulation
anyway,
something
new
that
and
they've
been
working
on
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
We've
upgraded
the
landscaping
a
lot.
Your
first
comment
was
pedestrian
circulation,
and
that
was
the
tahquitz
bus
stop,
which
has
gone
away
with
the
the
the
sunrise
bus
stop.
Now
the
path
to
travel
would
be
directly
along
the
public
sidewalk
and
then
into
our
building
around.
But
into
our
building
and
essentially
splitting
whatever
happens
on
the
pad
there
too,
so
it's
a
much
better
place
for
the
bus.
I
We
haven't
got
that
at
this
time
and
we
will
come
back
with
the
design
once
we
put
a
design
in
per
their
stipulations.
We've
got
it
shown
both
on
our
site
planning
and
on
the
civil
site
plan
as
far
as
the
position
of
it,
but
it's
not
designed
vertically
yet,
and
so
that's
the
first
comment.
The
second
comment
was
a
building
elevations
generally.
Essentially,
we
did
a
another
look
at
if
you
could
go
to
the
the
renderings
I
believe
the
that
I
gave
you
we
we
took
them.
We
took
a
better
look
at
the.
I
The
renderings
also
did
a
little
bit
of
just
joints
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
happens
within
the
stucco
that
articulates
the
building
a
little
bit
better.
This
this
is,
it
was
pretty
much
an
acceptable
elevation
as
far
as
what
I
heard
other
than
maybe
the
stone
that's
on
the
front
and
I
do
have
another
pallet
of
stone
which
I
brought
that
we're
considering
other
that,
rather
than
the
one
that
we
started
to
begin
with
this.
I
I
This
this
is
there
was
there
was
to
talk
about
this,
actually
prefer
seating
out
into
the
landscape.
We
did
enhance
the
landscape
at
that
corner,
along
with
some
palm
trees
too,
to
mimic
what's
happening
on
TAC
words,
because
we
needed
to
bring
those
down
there,
so
we
added
some
palm
trees
and
some
landscaping
appropriate.
I
This
is
a
this
is
not
a
public.
It's
not
meant
to
be
public
and
there's
a
security
thing,
so
we
did
not
want
to
really
open
it
up
to
letting
them
out
of
the
out
of
the
area,
and
it's
it's
a
security
thing,
so
we
we
still
do
have
the
stone
on
this
face
and
a
glass
barrier
and
and
some
louvers
that
works
with
this,
like
the
the
actual
element,
was
lowered
a
little
bit
when
it's
presences,
it
creates
a
nice
Civic
presence
as
we're
coming
down
south
on
that
this
is.
I
This
is
the
first
thing
you'll
see
in
the
building
as
you
come
down
and
then,
if
you
go
further
down
the
building,
we,
what
we've
done
is
at
the
planning
departments
recommendation
and
your
recommendation
on
the
East
elevation.
I,
don't
even
know
if
it
can
show
that
there's
is
it.
Is
there
one
further
down
I
think,
there's
long
a
little
bit
further
down
anyway,
we've
both
we've
been
Hank,
we've
enhanced.
I
I
I
A
A
I
I
Little
bit
less
a
little
more
rounded
and
and
more
articulated
as
far
as
color,
and
we
think
it's
going
to
go
with
the
colors
of
the
buildings
block
better
so,
rather
than
all
the
materials
on
this
board
are
still
the
same
other
than
the
stone
the
stone
I
brought.
You
actual
samples
so
for
your
review.
I
F
I
I
Yeah,
what
we've
done
is
we've
added
vertical
thin
fins
here
and
and
I
brought
along
here
same
thing.
With
this
we've
it
brought
the
windows
back
as
much
as
we
can
with
in
there,
so
that
they'll
be
sitting
in
the
building.
So
essentially,
we've
articulated
this
face
a
lot
better
as
it
goes
down
there
and
then,
of
course,
with
landscaping.
It
also
works
with
the
landscaping
as
it
goes
down
there.
I
B
I
A
I
Fifth
comment
was
the
trashing
closure?
I?
Guess
you
can
see
it
on
the
landscape
plan,
it's
another
longer
at
the
right
outlet.
The
driveway
we've
moved
it
down
a
few
steps.
We
talked
to
the
trash
people
doesn't
matter,
I
mean
they're,
just
going
to
pull
the
thing
out
and
do
it
anyway.
So
that
was
a
good
comment.
We
picked
up
on
that
one
employee
break
area
could
be
done
more
creatively
like
expanding
the
area
into
landscape
area.
I
talked
to
that
from
a
security
point
of
view.
I
We
don't
want
to
actually
expand
it
into
there
expanded
the
landscape
at
that
area,
so
you're
visually
looking
into
better
landscape,
but
it's
still
enclosed
as
far
as
an
employee
break
area,
because
it
is
a
private
and
a
security
type
thing
warm
lighting
temperatures.
We
talked
about
this
before
we're
going
we're
going
to
use
warm,
laying
temperatures
interiors
and
exterior,
where
it's
appropriate
shaded,
where
it's
appropriate
everything
to
the
building
department
and
building
code
type
stipulations.
So
we
will
do
that.
B
D
It's
just
kind
of
a
general
comment:
it
would.
It
would
help
if,
if
I
could
see
what
we
had
at
the
last
meeting
and
what
we
have
at
this
meeting
side
by
side
and
to
kind
of
go
through
your
your
response,
that
that
is,
is
detailed
and
and
see
how
it
expressed
because
I'm
hearing
bits
and
pieces
of
it,
it
sounds
like
portions
of
it
did
reduce
in
height.
F
D
C
B
G
Hi
thanks
I
think
your
explanation
is
great.
What
I
have
seen
is
a
big
improvement.
I
had
a
couple,
quick
questions,
though,
and
more
for
my
own
edification,
your
roof
is
at
15
feet
and
if
every
column
you
were
here
last,
you
said
your
ceiling
height
is
and
inside
is
at
9,
so
you've
got
six
feet
of
space.
How
is
that
utilized?
It's.
I
All
it's
mechanical
and
structural
there's,
there's
joists
worse
than
structural
joists
and
mechanical.
There
are
some
places
that
are
ten
feet
ceilings,
but
generally
it's
nine
feet,
but
there's
some
there's
some
spaces
within
the
within
the
area.
If
you
can
go
back
to
the
floor
plan,
I
could
show
you
a
little
bit
more
about
what's
happening
with
ceiling
height.
I
Essentially,
within
these
plods
there
would
be
ten
foot
in
the
in
the
office
area
that
you
call
it
by
color
if
you
want
yeah
well
with
it.
These
are.
These
are
the
exam
room
pods
and
this
this
area
would
be
this,
and
these
are
nine
feet.
So
essentially
it
goes
up
in
this
area
goes
up
here.
So
there
is,
there
is
a
little
bit
of
height
variation.
I
Then
this
is
the
taller
ceiling
area,
of
course,
that
are
seeing
in
the
renderings,
like
I,
said
essentially
as
much
but
nip
Y
elation
of
Windows,
as
we
could
along
here,
but
essentially
it's
a
it's
a
machine
that
it
works
for
examining
and
medical
more
than
it
does
to
try
to
get
people
looking
out
as
its
internal,
your
not
looking
anywhere
when
you're
doing
exams.
So
that's
that's!
How
the
ceiling
heights
work!
I
I
I
G
D
Don't
think
so,
I
think
that
the
difference
between
what
we
had
before
and
what
we
have
here
now
is
is
kind
of
self-evident.
It's
it's
an
impact
of
a
rendering
process
to
I.
Think
it
just
looks
better.
You
know
when
we
first
got
the
the
information
in
last
week's
packet,
I
mean
the
ISO
metrics
are
easy
to
understand
from
a
functional
standpoint
and
basic
building
proportion,
but
it
does
not
necessarily
do
it.
Justice
in
terms
of
the
scale
and
the
overall
feeling
that
you're
going
to
have
when
you
look
at
this
building.
E
E
The
only
place
that
I
have
a
little
bit
of
concern
is
off
of
the
patio
area.
We've
got
a
lot
of
low
tier
grass,
yucca
and
agave
agave
and
aloe,
and
that's
very
Spartan
palate.
They
go
well
together,
but
you
might
want
to
soften
that
a
bit
for
for
that
corner.
You
do
have
the
rock,
which
is
nice
as
as
a
backdrop,
but
consider
what
what
the
uses
are.
Do
you
want
to
give
them
privacy
looking
out
directly
to
the
traffic,
while
they're
sitting
there
having
their
lunch
and
things
like
that.
B
I
D
D
Nothing
in
it
is
accidental
I
think
we
could
kind
of
nitpick
elevations
as
a
bunch
of
architects
for
a
lot
of
time
and
but
I
think
it
hits
the
mark
and
isn't
necessarily
what
everybody
would
eventually
agree
upon,
but
I
think
that
the
difference
between
what
it
was
elevational
II
before
and
what
it
is
now
is
an
improvement
and
I
think
you've
certainly
done
the
yeoman's
work
in
terms
of
homework,
dealing
with
sun
line
and
all
in
getting
the
the
bust
off
in
the
real.
The
real
functional
deliverability
of
the
building
seems
to
be
there.
A
E
B
One
comment:
well,
first
of
all,
thank
you
very
much
for
listening
to
our
comments.
Last
time,
I'm
still
stuck
on
the
stone,
and
especially
when
I
see
the
name
of
the
stone
it's
called
rustic
lodge.
It
looks
to
me
like
it
should
be
in
a
mountain
lodge,
so
I'm
not
going
to
not
approve
it
because
of
that,
but
I
would
ask
you
to
please
consider
again
something
that
might
be
a
little
more
contemporary.
That's
not
necessarily
a
craggy
space
and
odd
shapes,
but
that's
up
to
you.
That's
just
my.
I
Maybe
we
heard
wrong
in
the
first
one
I.
What
we
will
try
for
was
something
a
little
bit
sharper
lines
in
contemporary
a
little
bit
too
white,
so
we
came
back
with
something
more
rusty
because
that's
what
I
thought
I
heard
or
thought
we
thought
we
heard.
So
there
might
be
a
little
bit
of
confusion
here.
There
there's
a
lot
of
stone
that
can
be
picked
in
that
sort
of
thing.
My
suggestion
is
that
this
is
a
last-minute
thing.
That's
going
to
happen
as
well.
We're
gonna
have
to
you.
I
The
we're
gonna
have
to
review,
have
to
design
the
bus
shelter.
As
you
know,
the
bus,
shelter
on
an
Eisenhower
has
a
stone
column
on
it
and
it's
fairly
simple
and
we've
thought
that
direction.
They're,
probably
adding
some
stone
to
the
bus
stop.
So
when
that
comes
up,
maybe
we
can
come
back
with
another
selection
and
show
you
stone
again
great.
G
B
E
C
A
A
B
Okay,
we're
gonna
proceed
now
to
new
business
item
number
two
on
the
agenda
request
by
David
Navarro
of
conserved
landscape
on
behalf
of
sunrise,
East,
homeowners,
association,
inc
for
minor
architectural
review
and
approval
for
the
conversion
of
20,000
square
feet
of
turf
to
desert
landscape.
At
the
sunrise
east
condominium
complex
located
at
251
east
mesquite
avenue.
May
we
have
a
staff
report
please
thank.
J
You
good
afternoon
as
introduced.
This
is
a
proposed
turf
conversion
at
the
sunrise,
East
homeowners
association,
complex,
the
property
is
located
at
the
corner
of
East
mesquite,
Avenue
and
South
Cerritos
Drive
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
convert
20,000
square
feet
of
turf,
which
is
located
on
the
east
mesquite
Avenue
frontage,
and
these
are
the
images
of
the
existing
conditions.
J
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
plant
palette
that
includes
various
types
of
materials,
as
you
see
here,
as
you
can
see
here,
and
it's
really
hard
to
see,
but
the
just
just
for
clarification.
The
corner
cut
back
area,
that's
shown
on
this
side
plant
is
actually
incorrect.
The
corner
cut
back
area
is
typically
measured
at
the
intersecting
point
of
a
property
lines.
This
30
foot
distance
is
actually
shown
from
the
the
corner
of
the
street,
so
actually
the
30
foot,
gonna
cut
back
area
will
be
measured
a
little
bit
inwards
in
the
planting
area.
J
J
J
Consistency,
as
you
may
recall,
across
the
street,
is
actually
landscaped
with
a
row
of
all
the
trees
and
stuff
finds
these
Maivia
potential
issues
and
considering
this
finding
staff
recommends
architectural
advisory
committee
to
approve
the
project
subject
to
the
two
conditions,
and
this
stuff
stuck
excuse
me.
This
concludes
the
staff
presentation
applicant
is
here
in
the
audience
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
let
us
know.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
D
J
D
A
D
Okay-
and
you
know
in
these
situations-
I'm
not
a
landscape
architect,
so
I
lean
a
bit
on
on
the
staff
report,
but
there
are
a
couple
things
here.
D
You
speak
about
the
monotonous
and
the
repetition
of
these
of
these
low
and
medium
high
shrubs,
as
well
as
deep
black
lack
of
shade
and
I
kind
of
get
it.
Having
walked
those
streets.
That's
full-on
South
exposure
right
now
on
that
side
and
you
don't
even
have
the
benefit
on
the
other
side
because
you're
you
catch
the
shadow
of
the
landscape
material.
That's
there
so
I
I
can
see
how
you
came
to
these
conclusions.
Those
are
my
questions.
Thank.
E
E
Just
between
the
curve
and
the
Sun.
A
J
The
corner
quebec
is
defined
in
a
zoning
code
as
a
intersecting
points
of
a
property
that
is
that
extended.
So
in
this
case
the
tree
is
located
at
the
two
intersecting
property
line.
The
edge
of
it
I
understand
that
the
property
has
an
entrance
to
the
complex
and
its
staff.
Actually
visit
visited
the
site
and
there
are
some
existing
trees,
but
did
not
think
that,
based
on
the
plant
palette
that
they
are
proposing
would
not
been
in
the
issue
and
then
also
we
have
engineering
department
stuff.
B
K
My
name
is
David
Navarro
and
I
work
with
that
conserve
black
hair,
so
basically,
the
design
that
we
try
to
implement
here
was.
We
wanted
to
really
focus
on
kind
of
give
you
more
of
an
arid
landscape.
So
we
kind
of
just
have
more
transparency
in
the
space.
The
the
biggest
concern
that
the
HOA
had
was
having
plant
material
blocking
the
street,
since
it
is
a
busy
street
and
having
plant
material
spilling
over
into
the
bike
lane
they
they
are
proud
of
the
grasses
and
want
to
keep
most
of
it,
but
they
also.
K
B
E
So
have
you
walked
the
the
board,
has
full
approval
of
these
plants.
They
understand
all
the
plans
and
what
the
plants
are
and
what
they
do.
Yep,
yes,
okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
of
that.
So
your
plants
are
all
beautiful,
I'm,
just
a
little
concerned
that
agave
tequilana
to
keep
tequilana
it's
big,
and
it's
sharp
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate,
make
sure
you
you
plant
it
maximum
size
will
not
intrude
on
to
the
curb
area
or
the
sidewalk.
K
Make
sure
to
plant
them
in
bigger
spaces,
the
planner
better,
the
existing
turf
areas
they
in
some
areas
it
does
get
reduced,
since
you
know
like
an
18
inch
space
but
there's
larger
spaces
as
we
move
closer
to
the
corner
that
that
probably
go
into
ten
to
twelve
and
twelve
feet
wide.
So
in
spaces
like
that,
where
we
could
plant
such
a
like
the
Gavin
ticket
Liana,
that's
where
we,
we
foresee
you
know
installing
them
and
we'll
make
sure
once
we're
out
of
there
in
the
field.
E
Yes,
they
can't
get
10
people
on
the
on
the
corner
that
corner
question.
You've
got
the
euphorbia
the
sticks
on
fire,
you
have
them
as
a
line
of
plants
as
if
they
are
some
small
decorative
plants.
These
things
get
very
large
and
that
row
of
them
that
you
have
here
will
they'll
be
big
and
that
can
obscure
the
views
that
they're
discussing
trying
to
keep
setting
up
the
tree.
I.
E
K
So
the
we
we
will
consider
find
a
substitution
for
that
plan.
Initially,
the
the
community
wanted
to
set
a
monument
they
wanted
to
do
signage
and
then
create
a
hedge
with
the
fire
sticks,
but
they
retracted
from
that.
So
we
could
find
something
that
substituted
with
something
else
that
will
stay
low
within
what
did
in
the
ordinance.
Okay.
E
K
E
K
B
Robert
any
questions
comments
John.
My
only
comment
is
just
to
say
that
I
really
appreciate
what
you're
saying
about
putting
trees
and
that
corner
cut
off,
take
off
the
lower
plant
material,
so
people
can
see
because
it
is
a
very
busy
street
other
than
that.
I
think
it's
quite
nice.
If
you,
the
corner,
cut
back,
can
that
tree
just
be
pulled
towards
the
towards
the
walls
of
the
project
with
it,
so
we
don't
lose
the
tree.
It'll
just
be
moved
out
of
the
corner.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
Do
we
have
motion.
B
G
G
I
just
want
to
amend
the
motion
by
adding
John's
comments,
because
I
did
notice
that
the
agave
tequilana
gave
particular
honor.
There
are
some
places
where
it
is
located
where
it's
narrower,
rather
than
wider,
so
I
think
that
those
areas
need
to
be
relooked
at
and
any
some
of
the
other
comments
just
you
know
so
that
it's
they're
taken
into
effect
and
let's
staff
review
it
from
that
point.
Okay,
just.
B
J
B
New
business
item
number
three
request
by
Ana
Escalante
on
behalf
of
Donald:
kick
for
a
major
architectural
application
to
construct
a
two
thousand
five
hundred
thirteen
square
foot
single-family
residence
on
an
undeveloped
hillside
parcel
located
located
at
2100
Tuscan
Road
staff
report.
Please
thank.
J
J
J
And
this
is
a
proposed
residence,
it's
a
single-story,
residence
of
the
roof
will
be
flat
and
the
residence
will
actually
gonna
have
a
main
entrance
on
the
west
elevation.
If
you
don't
mind
so
the
residence
is
going
to
have
the
front
entryway
right
over
here
and
connects
to
a
four
year
and
to
the
kitchen
and
a
great
room,
and
then
also
there
is
outdoor
patio
area,
the
deck
and
in
the
pool
and
prop
excuse
me.
J
Or
thermally
broken
sliding
door
and
window
frame
a
section
or
details,
that's
shown
here
based
on
well.
Excuse
me:
the
proposed
project
conforms
to
the
OMB
zone,
development
standards
in
terms
of
setbacks
and
the
building
height
and
so
forth,
based
on
the
submitter
stuff
finds
that
propose.
Hybrid
Bermuda
exceeds
the
maximum
allowable
turf
area
that
stipulated
zoning
code.
A
brand
new
single-family
residence
such
as
this
one
cannot
really
have
more
than
50%
of
turf
area
in
the
front
and
the
front
side.
J
D
If
that
wasn't
the
case,
it
would
not
be
correct.
Okay,
in
terms
of
this,
this
was
created
out
of
a
lot
split.
I,
take
it.
No,
there
was
an
abandonment
of
go
speak
to
the
issue.
There.
H
H
Whenever
you
do
a
vacation
process,
the
way
that
it
works
in
the
map
act
is
when
we
vacate
a
road
parcel
to
is
entitled
by
law,
to
half
of
the
right-of-way
of
Tusken
Road
at
a
90-degree
extension
from
their
property
line
to
the
centerline
of
Tusken
Road,
and
where
you
see
the
frontage
of
the
escuela,
it
continues
along
to
what
would
be
the
centerline
of
Tusken
and
after
the
vacation
process
is
done.
They
essentially
split
that
half
Street
right
away
between
each
parcel.
H
It
now
becomes
part
of
parcel
two,
but
what
we
did
is
we've
a
when
we
vacated
it.
We
reserved
an
easement
over
it
for
utility
purposes
or
for
sewer
and
in
the
vacation
document.
It
actually
says
what
the
reservation
was
for
sometimes
they're
just
for
sewer.
Sometimes
it's
you
know
a
10
foot
wide
strip
over
that
area.
H
Just
kind
of
depends
in
this
case
it
was
just
an
easement
reserved
over
the
entire
area,
for
the
sewer
reserves
are
in
there,
but
essentially
their
property
line
now
comes
out
to
the
centerline
of
Tuscan,
so
their
setbacks
theoretically
should
be
measured
from
the
centerline
of
Tuscan,
not
from
the
old
original
West
property
line
of
parcel
2.
So
they
could,
you
know,
shove
this
house
as
far
over
as
they
as
they
can
as
long
as
it
meets
that
side
yard
setback,
so
that
tuscan
area
would
be
considered
a
side
yard.
You
know
that.
D
D
H
So
when
the
road
gets
constructed,
so
you'll
see
on
the
board
sheet
there
below
you,
where
they're
proposing
their
driveway
coming
in
on
Tuscan,
that
will
come
up
and
then
they'll
take
access
to
their
carport.
If
somebody
else
develops
to
the
north
of
them,
they'll
continue
with
that
roadway.
All
the
way
up.
It's
just
considered.
It
would
be
considered
a
private
drive
for
those
two
for
those
two
okay.
H
D
G
H
B
L
Hello,
my
name
is
Ana
Escalante
I'm,
the
architect
for
the
project.
If
I
have
a
lot
of
jet
lag,
I
don't
live
here
anymore.
I
live
in
Sweden,
so
I
just
came
here
for
this
puppy.
The
owner
is
a
friend
of
mining,
but
we
have
been
working
on
it.
I
don't
know
three
or
four
years
now,
because
he
owns
the
three
Lots
and
was
studying
at
the
one
at
the
top.
That's
what
he
you
know.
He
wanted
to
have
all
the
bells
and
whistles
the
one
in
the
middle.
It's
a
little
bit
iffy.
L
B
L
Okay,
I
should
do
familiar
with
Don
wetzlar
I.
Won't
we've
done
for
I,
don't
know
how
many
years,
but
anyway,
this
system
is
based
on
the
scale
houses.
For
example,
do
you
know
Jeanne
Yurman,
okay,
I
did
the
guest
house,
that's
my
puppy.
So
essentially,
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
a
system
of
these
16
inch
panels
that
in
don't
stay
there
were
three
inches
now.
Therefore,
therefore-
and
we
you
know,
the
wall
is
not
like
what
it
used
to
be
when
you
put
an
air
gap,
etc,
etc.
L
I
can
do
a
little
detail
if
you
want
me
to,
but
essentially
there
are
these
panels
that
are
in
Earl
of
the
shop
fabricated.
This
house
is
not
prefab.
Is
shop
fabricated
in
every
13
feet
in
order
for
the
system
to
give
you
like,
lateral
and
stuff,
like
that,
every
13
feet,
you
have
to
incorporate
a
post
in
down-stay
used
to
be
like
a
three
by
three.
L
We
use
four
by
four
in
then,
so
you
keep
it
like
that
in
then,
with
exception
of
the
roof
that
we
at
some
point,
I
was
going
to
use
the
same
panel.
The
16
inch
interlocking
panel,
but
he
really
wants
to
have
eventually
PV
panels,
so
we
decided
to
go
with
a
flat
roof.
You
know
there
is
not
such
a
thing
as
a
flat.
It's
a
1/4
or
1/8
inch
per
foot,
and
so
that's
what
it
is
in
the
plan.
L
We
have
to
have
a
post,
some
of
them
stay
at
the
edge
of
the
the
horizontal
or
the
horizontal
bandana,
but
you
can
see
over
here
and
some
of
them
go
up
in
how
the
main
challenge
perhaps
was.
You
know,
title
24,
of
course,
in
that
I
have
my
few
tricks
that
I
have
developed
over
the
years
to
try
to
keep,
because
the
straw
with
this
architecture
is
that
if
you're
not
very
systematic
and
rigorous,
it
ends
up
looking
like
a
dog.
L
So
essentially
you
see
like
two
roofs
one
on
top
of
another,
and
you
know
it's
one
going
in
one
direction
in
it
that
essentially,
there
is
one
roof
going.
This
way.
This
way-
and
you
have
another
one
going
over
here
so
in
order
to
manipulate
using
a
performance
method,
the
energy
requirements-
and
we
also
use
in
triple-glazed
because
I
know
having
been
there
done
that
too
many
times
in
and
I
know
you
know
I
we've
done
it
before.
This
will
be
my
my
fourth
project
in
that
system.
So
you
know.
L
Yeah,
except
because
they
cite
one
of
my
biggest
nightmares,
it
may
be
because
he
happened
to
me
with
the
last
frame
in
my
house-
is
flooding
so
I
in
some
areas,
because
there
is
part
of
the
topography
over
here.
That's
been
beaten
by
the
rains,
and
you
know
there's
it's
pretty
bad,
so
essentially
in
some
areas,
what
I
did
is
in
order
is
all
right
here,
but
then
it's
not.
L
It
is
as
a
little
stem
wall
around
in
order
to
have
that
theme
floating,
because
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
all
the
the
water
that
might
have
been
during
the
flood
doesn't
get
in.
I
mean
still
step
simple
and
at
the
same
time
it
can
help
stay
architecture,
because
all
the
sudden
is
not
it's
not
rolling
on
the
ground
is
more
like
floating.
L
L
I
thought
look
like
those
admitted
new
drawings
with
it:
okay,
oh
it's
not
in
here.
Okay,
essentially,
what
we
have.
He
has
an
old
dog
in
in
I'm,
a
dog
person,
because
he
said
this
changed
name
buddy.
The
past
used
to
be
it
is
his
doggy.
Poo
is
still
there.
Okay!
Sorry
about
that.
But
anyway
we
just
had
a
little
section
here
for
the
dog
and
I
kind
of
help.
L
E
L
L
E
E
I
think
it's
a
beautiful
design.
The
oh
I
know
the
other
thing
you
you
SPECT
light
fixtures
which
I
appreciate
well
lights,
have
par
lamps,
which,
if
you
can
pick
ones
that
have
mr16
the
throw
of
a
par,
is
much
further
up
into
the
sky.
Here,
I'm
doing,
landscape
lighting
and
then
you've
got
on
the
house.
You've
got
down
lights,
mm-hmm
love
them.
You've
also
got
up
and
down
mm-hmm.
Can
we
eliminate
that?
Okay.
A
B
I
worked
for
done
years
ago,
too,
so
I
understand
the
whole
concept
of
what
he
taught.
Everybody
couple
questions
that
relate
not
so
much
to
the
architecture,
but
just
for
the
uses
of
the
home
are
the
louvers
that
are
on
those
doors,
moveable
and
they're,
made
of
steel
or
aluminum
I,
assume
I.
L
Have
done
them
both
ways,
they
did
it
in
steel.
Actually,
you
know
machine,
but
I
have
my
bag
of
tricks
because
I
have
funnies
can
I
say,
tell
story
the
first
time:
I
did
the
louvers.
What
was
I
think
it
was
2007,
I,
think
and
Norma's
before
the
big
date
when
the
economy
tanked.
So
all
the
manufacturers
would
really
DC.
L
You
know
when
you
know
I
didn't
what
any
architect
I
went
to
the
Suites
catalog
I
found
this
really
cool
Lords
inequalities,
people
in
a
first-rate
like
yeah
sure,
and
then,
when
I,
when
I
told
it
normally
I
wanted,
which
in
that
case,
I
think
about
six
in
the
guy.
Just
there
was
silence
on
the
phone
ma'am
we
do
for
high-rises.
Don't
ever
call
me
again.
So
what
I
did
with
that
with
the
assistance
of
my
former
partner,
which
is
Valley?
Do
it
really
reverse
engineer,
so
we
have
to
fabricate
it.
L
B
Looks
on
the
plan
like
there
are
two
sliding
glass
doors
in
the
living
room
and
the
pool
deck
is
at
least
a
foot
a
little
more
than
a
foot
below
the
living
room
floor.
What's
gonna
keep
people
from
falling
out
of
the
living
room
down
under
that
pool
deck?
Are
you
going
to
be
required?
Do
you
think
to
have
a
guardrail
there?
I
know
you
don't
want
what
I
know
you
don't.
L
C
A
A
B
A
L
A
L
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
consider
but
I
have
certain
pet
peeves
is
to
just
shoot
the
from
here
and
forget
about
it
just
kind
of
landscape.
It
like
I,
did
it
with
with
a
lease
get
residents,
but
then,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
always
struggle
with,
at
least
for
me,
has
an
architect.
He
said:
I
don't
want
to
keep
the
the
driveway
the
sort
of
primal
real
estate
from
the
street
so
but
yeah
we
can.
We
carry
stuff,
I
didn't.
B
B
B
L
B
B
L
B
B
L
L
Interior
Fennell,
no,
the
way
they
come
out.
They
pick
a
you
know
because
I've
seen
them
how
they
fabricate
them
number
one,
because
we're
trying
to
get
shear
and
stuff
like
that,
the
the
the
foundation
we
use
a
system
of
we
create
a
template,
and
we
put
the
the
bolts,
the
Hilty
bolts,
to
attach
the
walls
that
is
taken
to
the
shop
in
the
end
they
in
what
comes
to
to
the
to
the
side.
Are
these
bent
panels
which
they
look
like.
L
L
This
one
is
16.
If
they
just
come,
they
just
come
stuck,
they
bend
them,
it's
a
20
gauge
they've
been
it,
but
they'll
do
something
in
the
shop
in
order
to
avoid
to
avoid
all
cannon,
what
downward
sled
did
he
put
up
a
strip
of
drywall?
He
uses
half
an
inch,
I
use
5/8
it
that's
how
they
come
and
then
at
the
bottom
and
at
the
top
they
have
this
little
bent.
They
they
already
come
in.
Like
a
toy.
L
L
B
L
A
B
A
D
A
couple
observations:
yes,
it
has
a
wonderful
scale
to
it.
There's
an
instant
tidiness
to
the
floor
plan
that
you
can
kind
of
appreciate.
I,
oftentimes,
think
that
that
comes
out
of
when
you
have
a
forced
modular
system
of
any
sort.
You
automatically
check
into
a
rhythm
and
and
the
house
kind
of
self
balances,
and
things
look
right.
So
I
think
that
the
that
your
plan
is
very
successful
like
that.
Just
so
I
understand,
I
may
ask
more
questions.
I'm,
sure,
okay,
this
is
a
steel
frame.
Is
that
correct?
L
D
L
L
L
D
L
You
been
have
you
been
at
this?
You
have
been
at
this
still
houses
right,
yes,
okay,
when
you
go
into
a
sermon
which
is
the
one
that
has
the
yellow
curtains
when,
when
you
go
in
the
carport
between
the
carport
in
a
little
open
space,
that's
where
they
guess
house
starts.
If
you
get
to
the
edge
of
the
cardboard
and
you
look
up,
you
see
what
I'm
talking
about.
D
B
D
Yeah
I
this.
This
is
a
these
type
of
sites.
They'll
all
be
the
hillside,
which
adds
the
sort
of
torturous
process
of
going
through
committees
and
all
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
invitation
to
do
these
one-off
well,
studied
design
solutions
and
houses,
and
each
one
as
you
sort
of
drive
around
up
there
and
in
other
parts
of
Palm
Springs.
They
sort
of
tuck
neatly
and
nicely
into
the
topography
and
landscape
and
I
think
you've
done
well
dealing
with
a
site
that
what
has
about
a
ten-foot
fall
to.
L
D
D
So
it's
it's
both
an
opportunity
that
that
you
know
yields
a
good
design
like
this
as
well
as
I
think
there
is
no
sort
of
strong,
contextual
thing
to
sort
of
be
asking
about
or
making
judgments
in
terms
of
fitting
into
neighborhoods
I
think
just
fine.
It
is
its
own
wonderful
thing,
end
of
story.
Thank.
A
B
A
B
L
Here's
what
I
was
thinking
about,
because
when
somebody
not
the
neighbor,
but
it
was
a
house
that
was
built
recently
within
the
last
three
or
four
years,
I
think
indeed
dumped
a
lot
of
the
blocks
into
his
lock.
So
thinking
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
reconfigure
because
with
the
civil
engineer,
even
though
we
did
the
preliminary
grading
but
I
have
my
own
concerns,
and
maybe
you
solve
that
loose
rock-
to
create
some
sort
of
like
a
little
Cove
or
something
like
that.
Thanks.
A
A
G
L
Anyway,
I
thought:
here's
what
I
have
done
in
the
past
in
order
to
avoid
that
you
know
those
ugly
things
is
that
normally
we
use
a
lot
of
the
the
the
byproduct
of
the
site,
we're
gonna,
have
tons
of,
rocks
and
stuff
like
that
and
what
I
have
done
in
the
past
and
what
I
did
with
one
of
my
favorite
projects.
Actually,
to
avoid
that,
we
use
a
lot
of
rocks.
It
would
put
a
lot
of
impediments.
L
I
mean
free
for
so
many
like
I'm
talking
about
the
linseed
residence
I.
Don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
it,
but
in
order
to
for
someone
to
come
in
from
the
next
slot
into
this
pool
to
try
even
a
child
is
impossible,
because
we
we
landscape.
That
area
would
rocks
Choya
cactus.
You
know
we
did
a
lot
of
barriers
in.
We
avoided
I.
L
L
Yeah,
okay!
Well,
in
that
case
oh
I,
have
to
think
about
that
would
eliminate
that
one.
It
absolutely
that
wouldn't
be
an
issue,
but
this
in
this
one
is
only
for
the
dog,
so
it
can
be
18
inches.
So
here
it
will
be
my
challenge:
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
information,
because
that's
what
that
was
the
the
the
issue
that
we
confronted
with
Andy,
who
have
blocked
the
view
and
put
those
things
that
are
really
unsightly.
We
just
made
a
bomb
proof
that
nobody,
it's.
G
L
G
L
L
L
G
G
G
L
I
have
a
question
because
that's
essentially
because
a
building
permit
issue
I
will
still
use
it
wouldn't
use
interpretive
reviews
anymore.
Like
you
know,
you
meet
the
intent
of
the
code,
but
you
don't
necessarily
use
the
the
prescriptive
solution.
You'd.
L
C
G
B
Number
four:
is
the
Palm
Canyon
Resort
Verizon
Wireless
for
a
conditional
use
permit
to
install
a
wireless
communications
facility
consisting
of
three
nine
foot:
six
inch
tall
screens
to
conceal
panel
antennas
on
the
rooftop
of
an
existing
timeshare
building
located
at
the
Palm
Canyon
Resort
and
Spa
at
2800
South
Palm,
Canyon
Drive.
We
have
a
staff
report,
please
thank
you
sure.
Thank.
F
So
in
your
packet
there's
a
series
of
drawings
that
show
the
the
details
of
the
proposal,
so
the
three
locations
on
the
roof
will
be
connected
to
an
equipment
room
that
is
behind
an
existing
trash
area.
That
is
screened
already,
so
they
will
lease
200
and
some
square
feet
within
the
area
to
provide
the
generator
and
all
the
equipment
that
goes
along
with
the
these
types
of
facilities.
F
So,
in
this
drawing
you'll
see
that
the
arrays
are
attached
to
a
racking
system
and
when
staff
first
saw
this,
the
design
of
the
units
on
the
roof
was
a
box.
Just
a
stucco
box
and
we've
worked
with
them
to
find
an
element
within
the
building
complex.
That
would
be
complementary
to
the
architecture
and
they
proposed
this
sort
of
curve
on
top
of
the
screening.
F
This
is
a
different
design
to
add
on
top
of
the
roof.
Its
existing.
The
area
in
South,
Palm,
Canyon
Drive,
is,
is
absent
of
some
cell
service,
so
this
will
provide
a
service
to
those
air
people.
Folks
that
live
in
the
south
end
of
town
and
the
planning
staff
has
heard
that
over
over
the
years
that
there's
cell
service
is
limited,
so
there
are,
as
I
mentioned,
several
photo
Sims
of
what
this
will
look
like
what
they're
proposing
on
the
the
roof
section.
F
There
also
is
a
coaxial
enclosure
that
runs
down
the
side
of
the
building
that
would
be
made
of
metal
and
be
painted
to
match
the
existing
building
and
the
design
of
the
enclosure
or
the
screening.
As
you
can
see,
this
is
a
picture
of
what
is
up.
There
now
will
be
framed
wood
box
with
stucco,
with
the
sort
of
detail
showing
the
relief
and
the
the
circular
portion
of
it.
F
The
cable
enclosure
will
be
powder-coated,
steel,
texture
to
blend
the
existing
stucco
exterior
and
then
the
FRP,
which
is
the
the
antennas
screen
wall,
will
have
stucco
like
finish,
painted
to
match
the
existing
parapets
and
they
included
not
a
paint
chip
sama,
but
a
description
of
the
sort
of
the
off-white
cream
color.
So
these
are
some
photographs
of
where
the
antenna
will
go
on
top
of
the
balcony
stacks
there
and
then
the
one
in
the
middle-
and
this
is
a
picture
of
an
existing
facility
area
which
is
inside
the
courtyard
area.
F
F
We
discussed
possibly
setting
back
the
units
from
the
roof
itself
and
the
applicant
is
here,
and
she
probably
can
describe
why
these
units
need
to
be
right
at
the
edge
of
the
building
and
not
set
farther
back
the
same
Planning
Commission
reviewed
a
similar
building
off
of
gene
autry
trail
a
few.
Maybe
a
year
ago
it
was
a
similar
situation,
was
on
top
of
a
the
moving
van
company
off
of
gene
autry
by
the
state,
bold
shopping
center,
and
that
was
the
same
situation.
F
They
put
the
units
right
at
the
edge
and
there
was
a
long
description
as
to
why
they
couldn't
move
them.
So
you
may
want
to
ask
that
question
again,
because
that
may
be
so
other
options
we
could
widen
these
out,
make
them
wider
longer.
So
they
don't
look
so
tall,
but
I'll
leave
that
up
to
the
AC
and
your
expertise.
E
F
So
on
this
screen
it's
here-
and
this
is
the
end
of
the
building,
so
the
equipment
shelter
sits
here.
So
all
the
all
the
conduit
and
wires
would
run
along
the
roof
to
this
end
and
then
come
down.
So
there's
only
one,
so
we
don't
have
other
ones
coming
off
the
side
of
the
building.
Just
this
one
location,
it
would
come
down.
E
E
E
F
E
D
So
the
consideration
of
specific
owners-
it's
not
it's
not
part
of
this.
F
D
F
D
Now
the
the
masking
attempt
here
with
with
that
wood-framed
whatever
is
separate,
there's
no
structural
relationship
between
the
tower
and
this
masking
element.
Is
that
correct?
You.
F
D
D
B
F
A
F
A
C
D
C
The
code
also
requires
that
every
mechanical
equipment
such
as
this
is
screamed
I
think
we
also
had
a
similar
question
as
to
why
it
can
be
left
alone
the
way
it
is,
but
the
code
actually
require
that
they
be
screened
so,
and
that
is
why
you
are
seeing
the
screening
to
conceal
the
antennas
themselves.
Okay,.
G
C
So,
to
respond
to
that
specifically
Len
and
referenced
a
similar
project
I
was
approved
about
approximately
two
years,
a
good
one
at
700
South,
the
gene
autry.
If,
if
it
we
hug
the
ASC
to
better
understand
that
screaming,
yes,
you
can
to
see
some
kind
of
studies
of
photo
seems
to
help.
You
determine
the
level
of
the
high,
because
the
antenna
itself
from
the
staff
report
is
8.
Foot
high,
correct
and
the
proposed
screening
elements
are
about
9
foot
plus
right.
So.
F
G
E
F
So
after
you
make
a
recommendation,
it
goes
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
conditional
use,
permit
public
hearing
and
if
that
was
be
approved,
then
let's
say
18
t
wanted
to
come
in.
We
most
likely
would
skip
the
AEC
because
we
have
the
architectural
design
done,
but
they
would
still
need
to
go
for
a
conditional
use
permit
at
the
Planning
Commission
right.
E
B
M
Hi,
my
name
is
Rachel
Davis
and
I
work
with
Jacobs.
We
were
hired
by
Verizon
Wireless
to
kind
of
do
their
drawings,
take
you
through
building
and
off
to
RTR
until
they
start
the
construction.
So
when
we
were
initially
looking
at
the
area,
we
were
looking
at
something,
maybe
possibly
in
the
golf
course
area,
but
three
or
four
years
later
there
was
some
legal
issues
not
not
with
us.
Obviously,
but
with
just
the
manager.
They
have
different
types
of
wireless
managers
that
deal
with
different
areas.
M
For
us,
we
have
a
building,
roof
type
manager
and
they
deal
with
any
of
the
wireless.
They
have
agreements.
The
owners
have
agreements
with
wireless
companies,
so
we
work
directly
with
a
wireless
agent,
and
so
they
have
one
called
SBA
and
they
had
some
legal
issues
with
something
doing
something
within
the
golf
course,
and
so
Verizon
was
like.
M
Okay,
we'll
cut
our
losses
with
that
design,
and
we
were
looking
for
different
areas,
and
this
was
the
largest
building
in
the
area
and
generally
to
get
the
widest
reaching
antenna,
Signori
like
to
be
put
on
to
the
highest
buildings.
Unfortunately,
this
building
was
already
at
its
height
limit,
so
we
knew
that
we
had
to
do
a
deviation
to
go
higher,
so
different
design
options
that
were
discussed
and
typically
for
rooftop.
M
M
So
when
you
do
have
the
antenna
signal,
it's
not
shooting
right
into
the
building
and
you
lose
a
lot
of
the
the
use
of
the
antenna
if
it
does
that,
but
putting
it
in
the
middle,
although
technically
feasible,
you'd
be
a
lot
higher
elevation
and
usually
that's
looked
at
as
a
negative
thing
visually.
No
one
really
approves
that
type
of
design,
so
ideally
they'd
like
to
be
at
the
edge
of
the
building.
So
when
it
does
kind
of
go
out,
it's
more
efficient
for
the
RF
signal.
Oh.
F
M
So
the
equipment
itself
is
on
a
rack
that
is
on
the
screen:
that's
attached
to
the
roof
or,
if
later
down
the
road.
The
engineer
decides
that
it
needs
an
additional
item.
It's
all
screened
behind
that
that
screening,
but
at
this
stage
that's
where
we
are,
we've
done
the
structurals
on
it
and
when
we
move
it
to
the
building,
they
generally
ask
for
more
details,
and
we
have
that
all
worked
out.
M
Then
too,
and
so
that's
what
the
existing
one
looks
like
that's
on
the
roof
that
spaces
the
pool-
and
so
ours
won't
look
exactly
like
that
behind
it,
because
we
need
to
put
our
equipment.
But
you
kind
of
get
the
gist
that
that
one
has
beams
that
come
down
to
attach,
and
it's
also
attached
on
the
side
and
that's
like
integrated
into
the
rooftop
itself,
and
so
what
they
do
is
they
cut
into
the
roof
to
integrate
it
into
the
existing
beams.
D
M
It
you
have
antennas
and
behind
the
antennas
you
have
our
air
use.
D
B
D
G
Yeah,
thank
you
so
I
understand
now
that
you're
at
the
bottom
of
the
antenna
needs
to
be
up
so
that
the
signal
going
this
way
is
clearing
I,
guess,
they're
parapet
them,
that's
the
first
hurdle,
so
the
further
back
the
higher
is
the
closer,
maybe
be
lower.
So
that's
that's!
That's
determining
the
height
of
these
things.
So
that's
why
you're
off
at
nine
and
a
half
feet
right.
M
G
M
Definitely
possible
just
knowing
that
the
this
whole
hotel
business,
they
have
an
agreement
with
ATC's
who
I
work
directly
with
and
they
managed
entire
rooftops
of
all
of
their
hotels.
It's
in
their
best
interest
to
get
more
carriers
to
come.
We
had
originally
proposed
this
on
a
different
building,
but
it
was
visible
from
Palm
Canyon,
so
we
moved
it
back
yes
and.
M
E
E
M
Maybe
your
second
part
of
your
question
was:
can
you
lower
it?
In
theory,
you
could
instead,
it
get
into
the
building
and
then
sort
of
just
have
an
FRP
material.
But
then
that
really
involves
like
cutting
into
the
building.
I,
don't
know
exactly
those
are
rooms
right
there,
so
they
would
have
to
be
moved,
maybe
to
a
different
portion,
and
then
it
just
gets
tricky
about.
Are
we
going
too
low,
where
the
RF
signal
can't
get
the
areas
along
that
row
that
they
need?
So
probably
not
as
my
answer.
If.
F
B
E
I
appreciate
that,
do
you
try
to
find
an
architectural
feature
to
play
off
of
as
I
walk
the
site?
That
architectural
feature
is
clearly
internal
to
the
pool
area
and
a
marker
of
entries
to
the
building
so
I
I.
Don't
think
that
is
a
good
play
to
start
posting
it
out
of
the
edges
of
the
building.
There's
no
problem
no
place
from
the
exterior
that
you
see
it.
I
just
have
a
really
hard
time
with
the
proportion
and
placement.
E
G
Well,
I,
don't
want
to
redesign
it,
but
I
would
first
off
get
you
rid
of
the
arched
pediment
and
I
might
pick
up
and
I.
Think
proportionately.
It
just
doesn't
fit
the
building
I!
Think
if
you're
gonna
do
it,
where
you
have
them,
it
needs
to
respond
to
the
balcony
widths
below
and
maybe
those
it
may
be.
The
whole
room
isn't
that
big,
but
maybe
there's
at
least
a
facade
of
it
and
I
would
also
probably
pick
up
more
of
the
rectilinear
elements
of
the
balcony
treatments.
G
You've
got
the
horizontal
bands
and
the
vertical
bands
and
do
something
play
off
of
that.
Instead
of
trying
to
bring
this
arched
lady
and
pediment
in
that
nobody's,
going
to
see
from
the
street
or
really
connects
with
it.
The
other
thing
I
would
like
to
see
is
them
do
a
visibility
study
in
order
to
try
and
bring
the
height
of
this
thing
down
and
to
see
really
how
far
away
you
have
to
stand
before.
G
You
actually
start
to
see
the
top
of
the
antennas
and
if
it
really
does
create
any
kind
of
impact,
because
you've
got
you've
got
the
the
the
enclosure.
That's
set
back
from
the
balcony
and
then
the
antennas
are
set
back
again.
I,
don't
know
what
the
distance
is,
but
whatever
that
is
I
think
if
you
were
to
strike
an
angle
to
see
what
might
protrude
beyond,
we
could
possibly
bring
it
down
because
it
may
be.
You
know
three
miles
away
before
you
see
it
know.
G
D
Think
that
you
have
helped
distill
this
down
to
what
we
now
see
is
clearly
an
architectural
problem.
Singularly
it's
not
a
technical
issue
and
I
think
it's
solvable,
but
I
think
anything
that
is
successful
and
does
resolve
it
will
change
the
entire
scale,
shape
and
presentation
of
this
building
at
an
elevational
level.
It's
a
type
of
thing
that
doesn't
come
easily
I
think
it
would
take
many
hours
of
trial
and
error
and
getting
it
to
work.
That's
how
I
would
do
it
and
there
you
are
so
this.
D
This
is
sort
of
unab,
RuPt,
scary
graphic
to
us
just
because
of
the
scale.
Please
take
no
offense
of
that,
but
we
do
understand
that's
kind
of
a
starting
point
and
you're
trying
to
integrate
it
with
the
building.
That's
all
good,
but
it
is
gonna,
take
a
little
quite
a
bit
of
mileage
to
to
get
it
there.
B
Thank
you
I
think
that
Robert
has
the
the
right
direction
that
obviously
they
made
these
equipment
enclosures
as
small
as
they
could
I
think
they
need
to
make
them
bigger.
I,
think
it
should
be
the
width
of
the
of
the
wider
balcony
and
that
wider
proportion
is
gonna,
make
it
feel
less
like
a
funky
little
box.
B
B
E
G
G
If,
if
you
know,
I
think
what
we
need
to
see
is
maybe
once
one
view
where
it
brings
it
down
below
the
top
of
the
antennas
and
see
what
the
impact
is
and
the
one
actually
where
it's
right
at
the
top
of
it.
Okay,
but
maybe
it
responds
better
to
the
building
in
terms
of
width
and
height
and
a
detail.
Okay,
that's
good
direct
shots.
My
motion
we.