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From YouTube: Architectural Review Committee | June 26 2023
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Regular Meeting of the City of Palm Springs Architectural Review Committee, held June 26th, 2023
A
Yes,
this
is
the
June
26
2023
meeting
of
the
Architectural
Review
Committee
of
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
Please
silence
all
phones
and
pagers
planning
director.
Please
take
me
a
call.
B
Good
afternoon
Mr
chair
Chris
is
remote
again
from
home
today,
so
I
will
do
the
role.
Member
Thompson
member
Walsh
here
remember,
Pauline,
remember,
McCoy
is
absent.
Member
Dosey
is
absent.
Member
rotman
here
and
chair
jakeway.
Here
you
have
a
quorum.
Thank.
D
Accept
sorry
Mr
chair,
if
we
might
Ken
did
you
want
to
raise
the
issues
yeah.
B
A
B
Chair,
we
would
like
to
recommend
that
the
item
on
your
consent-
agenda,
1A
the
signage
for
nice-
guys
be
continued
to
a
date
certain,
as
we
have
some
matters,
that
we
need
to
correct
and
help
the
applicant
with
before.
Considering
this
particular
item.
A
A
We
don't
have
any
minutes
to
review
at
this
meeting,
so
we're
going
to
move
right
into
new
business
and
that
would
be
number
3A,
Henrik
etonian
owner
for
a
major
architectural
application
for
the
construction
of
a
four
thousand
one
hundred
and
twelve
square
foot
single
family
residence
on
a
hillside
lot
located
at
2310,
Tuscan
Road.
E
Thank
you
chair.
If
we
could,
let
me
get
the
clicker
here,
so
the
project
is
located:
2310,
Tuscan,
Road
and
to
orient
the
commission
Tuscan
road
is
on
the
right
left.
Side
of
this
slide
and
Via
Oliveira
is
on
the
lower
Street.
E
A
Glenn
I'm
gonna
interrupt
just
a
second
I'm.
Sorry
I
skipped
over
the
part
of
the
meeting
where
we
opened
for
public
comment.
Okay,
so
let's
back
up
and
do
that,
since
this
is
a
public
meeting
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue
that
is
within
this
committee's
purview.
Comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
that
that
item
is
presented.
If
you
want
to
speak
on
any
item,
not
on
today's
agenda,
you
may
speak
now.
E
Thank
you
chair.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
a
aerial
photograph
orientating
the
committee
as
to
where
the
vacant
lot
is
located.
Currently,
the
lot
is
full
of
Boulders
and
other
scrub
brush,
which
is
located
throughout
the
site.
E
The
applicant
has
provided
a
sort
of
an
illustrative
design
showing
how
the
house
would
sit
on
the
lot
just
to
give
a
little
direction,
as
I
mentioned
on
Tuscan
Road
the
lot
the
streets,
it's
higher
about
six
feet
higher
than
the
pad,
the
Finish
pad
of
the
house
and
as
you
go
along
via
Oliveira,
the
road
slopes
downward.
So
the
resulting
is
a
terraced
house
that
will
have
steps
that
are
internal
to
the
the
structure.
E
E
There's
a
site
plan
in
your
package
that
shows
the
setbacks.
The
front
of
the
house
is
considered
Tuscan
road,
which
is
a
25
foot
setback.
The
rear
is
to
the
East
and
it's
a
side
or
a
corner
lot.
So
there's
a
20-foot
setback
on
Via
Oliveira
and
a
10-foot
setback
on
the
property
to
the
north.
So
the
structure
meets
all
the
setbacks
for
the
r1b
zone.
E
There
is
a
floor
plan
and,
as
I
mentioned,
there
are
a
series
of
steps
that
are
located
within
the
house.
So
there's
a
the
garage,
that's
lower,
there's
a
series
of
steps
that
goes
into
the
outdoor
living
area
and
then
on
the
front
door,
there's
a
fireplace
and
then
a
set
of
stairs
that
goes
up
into
the
great
room.
E
There
were
four
bedrooms
that
surround
the
great
room
and
then
the
master
bedroom
has
steps
down
that
descend
into
that
that
room
itself
on
the
front
of
the
house
there
there
are
sliders
that
go
out
to
little
patios
that
face
Tuscan
Road
and
this
project
has
been
reviewed
by
the
planning
staff
and
our
Urban
designer
multiple
times
and
we've
gotten
to
this
point.
To
present
it
to
you
today,
so
there
have
been
several
revisions
and
we'll
discuss
those
in
just
a
second
there's,
a
grading
plan
that
shows
the
street
elevations.
E
The
applicant
provided
cross-sections
showing
how
the
house
would
sit
as
it
relates
to
the
houses
that
are
adjacent
to
it,
and
in
this
slide
you'll
see
the
Tuscan
Road
sits
at
a
higher
elevation
and
then
it
steps
down
there's
a
retaining
wall
that
will
be
at
the
bottom
of
the
slope.
That
will
level
the
pads
that
are
in
front
of
the
the
bedrooms
and
then
you'll
see
how
the
house
steps
down
with
the
house
to
the
east
sitting
lower
on
the
other
cross
section
east
to
west.
E
Once
again,
this
is
the
aerial
showing
the
house
to
the
North,
and
then
the
house
to
the
east
in
looking
at
the
building
elevations,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
been
several
design
changes
over
the
past
year
to
get
this
proper
project
to
the
arc.
One
thing
I'd
like
to
note
is
that
the
this
elevation
shows
a
house
at
18
feet,
4
inches,
which
is
over
what
is
permitted,
which
would
be
18
without
an
administrative,
minor
modification.
This
was
this
plan
is
different
than
what
the
staff
reviewed
when
the
staff
report
was
written.
E
E
E
There's
a
building
material
board
that
I
handed
to
the
committee
that
is
being
reviewed
there
you
go
and
that's
this
slide
here,
which
shows
the
color
of
the
house
is
a
light
gray.
There's
a
porcelain,
veneer,
Walnut
color,
which
is
we
will
accent,
and
then
there
are
other
types
of
stone
that
will
frame
the
front
door
and
we'll
go
over
that
in
just
a
minute.
Window
frames
are
anodized,
color
gray
and
the
garage
door
is
a
roll-up
door
with
frosted
glass,
aluminum,
framing
oops.
E
E
S
the
species
include
multiple
36
inch
box,
shade,
trees,
blue
Palms,
California
fan
Palms,
numerous
shrubs
and
succulents
ground
coverage
and
crew
include
crushed
stone,
gravel,
Pebbles
and
boulders
all
meeting
the
standards
of
the
zoning
code.
Southern
Live,
Oaks,
three
olive
trees,
Washington
and
Philip
fora
is
at
10
feet
tall
once
I
again,
four
blue,
Palms,
pygmy
date
palms
and
bottle
brush,
Yucca,
agave
and
other
ground
covers.
E
Following
is
a
series
of
illustrative
drawings
of
renderings,
of
what
the
building
would
look
like
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
the
front
door
as
you
step
down
the
side
of
the
hill.
This
is
what
would
face
via
Oliveira.
The
front
entrance
is
framed
by
this
stacked
stone,
here's
the
garage
door
and,
once
again,
the
middle
portion
is
the
elevated
area
above
the
great
room.
E
One
of
the
comments
from
our
Urban
Design
planner
who's
here
is
the
the
series
of
these
types
of
roof
angles.
We
had
the
applicant
add
eyebrows.
This
is
a
west
facing
elevation,
so
this
will
have
a
lot
of
solar
access,
so
they've
added
these
eyebrows
for
better
solar
control,
and
this
is
a
pretty
good
example
of
how
it
shows
the
road
that
sits
higher
and
the
house
is
sort
of
sunk
into
the
hillside
going
through
other
series
of
drawings
showing
what
the
house
could
will
look
like
once
again.
A
Okay
is
the
applicant
present.
F
F
My
name
is
Mike
Mendoza.
Thank
you
for
the
consideration
of
our
project,
I'm
here
for
Mr,
Henry,
artananda,
Express
and
the
owner
of
the
project
and
yeah.
We
have
worked
with
planning
department
in
several
draws
of
the
proposed
single-family
residence
on
Tuscan
Bruna
via
Olivera,
and
we
think
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
good
asset
for
the
community
and
the
neighborhood
that
it's
growing
up
and
have
you
know
new
buildings
around
it?
We
consider
you
know
the
challenges
of
the
property
coming.
F
You
know
from
Tuscan
to
the
other
end
of
bee
Oliveira
and
we
work
with
Terraces
with
grading
Engineers.
That
was
a
task
by
himself
because
of
the
Topography
of
the
property,
but
we
were
able
to
accomplish
and
have
a
a
a
project
that
it
you
know
some
for
the
site.
A
A
G
Hello,
my
name
is
Rebecca
Hendrickson
and
I'm,
a
neighbor
I'm
to
to
the
east
side
of
this
construction,
so
welcome
to
the
neighborhood
I'm
I'm,
just
kind
of
curious
on
the
plans
on
the
plant
plan
which
we
received
there
were.
It
was
listed
as
having
two
owners
and
on
the
agenda
today,
there's
just
one
owner
of
the
house,
so
I'm
just
curious.
What's
what
what
that?
Why
there's
a
difference
there
I'm
interested
in
the
drainage
plan
of
the
property,
since
we
are
downhill
from
them,
we're
on
the
east
side?
G
So
it's
a
drainage
plan
going
to
be
on
the
south
east
corner
and,
if
so,
how
much
drain?
How
much
can
that
space
hold
for
the
drainage
on
this
big
big
lot,
I'm
interested
to
know
about
the
sewage
plan.
G
Is
the
sewage
also
going
to
be
on
that
Southeast
corner
and,
if
so
is,
is
the
hookup
going
to
be
a
pipeline
coming
up?
Oliveira
is?
G
Are
we
going
to
be
participating
in
that
expense
and
then,
if
they're
going
to
be,
if
they're
going
to
be
allowed
to
have
a
septic,
where
is
their
leech
field
going
to
be
because
again
we're
down
property
from
them,
and
where
is
that
leech
field
going
to
be
and
how
big
is
it?
G
We're
also
I'm
also
interested
in
the
preliminary
planting
palette
that
we
were
given
that
there's
mention
of
the
Southern
Live
Oak
and
it
just
seems
like
there's
gonna,
that's
gonna
be
very
difficult
to
grow
here.
So
that's
the
question.
I'm
wondering
how
much
Phil
is
going
to
come
into
the
lot
we've
got.
Currently,
we've
got
the
wall.
It's
a
six
foot
wall
on
the
back
side
on
the
west
side
of
our
property.
G
So
if
their
fill
is
coming
in,
will
that
wall
become
a
retaining
wall
and
if
it
becomes
a
retaining
wall,
how
much
force
can
it
hold
and
with
their
with
the
plan
plan
for
planting?
If
there's
a
lot
of
foliage
on
that,
each
side
which
it
looks
like
there
is,
is
the
irrigation
then
going
to
come
down
and
start
to
degrade
that
wall?
G
That's
another
concern,
I'm,
also
interested
in
an
external
lighting
plan
just
to
know,
what's
going
on
there
we're
supposed
to
be
a
dark
sky
City,
so
just
curious
about
that,
and
also
we've
been
looking
at
elevations
from
Tuscan
and
from
Oliveira
and
from
the
north
side
of
the
property,
but
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
any
elevations
or
any
computer
generated
visuals
from
the
East
side
looking
towards
the
property,
I
haven't
seen
any
of
those.
So
those
are
my
concerns.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
H
My
name
is
Michael
Hammond
and
I'm.
The
husband
of
the
woman
who
just
spoke
and
welcome
to
the
neighborhood
I
appreciate
the
low
profile
of
the
house.
I
guess.
My
one
comment
is
the
quercus
virginiana,
which
is
the
Southern
Oak
and
I
speak
from
experience,
having
written
a
dissertation
on
plant
domestication
and
being
certified
as
a
Master
Gardener
by
UC,
Riverside,
Agricultural
Extension,
and,
having
done
eight
hours
of
volunteer
work,
advising
people
on
their
Gardens
here.
H
It's
not
gonna
live
unless
it's
you
hire
a
horticulturalist
I
would
go.
Look
at
the
beautiful
Washingtonian
philipora,
that's
right
outside
in
the
parking
lot
here.
That's
a
stunning
example
of
a
native
van
Palm
and
you've
got
13
of
them
on
your
plan
and
if
you've
got
triskaidekaphobia
fear
of
the
number
13
you
might
as
well
add
a
number
14..
E
Can
I
address
one
of
her
comments
about
the
sewer
place
so
in
in
the
conditions
of
approval
that
is
included
your
packet
and
this
information
is
was
all
available
in
the
staff
report
online.
So
there
are
conditions
of
approval
that
will
talk
about
the
sanitary
sewer
lines
and
the
hookup,
so
engineering
condition
number
24
talks
about
the
sewer
lines
along
the
aloe
vera
and
Tuscan.
So
the
city
does
not
approve
septic
systems,
they
would
have
to
connect
to
the
city,
sewer
and
water
lines.
E
There
are
there's
a
grading
plan,
that's
included
in
the
staff
report,
and
it
shows
how
water
drains
they
would
need
to
keep
all
of
their
water
on
their
lot.
That's
what
the
grading
plans
are
for
there's
a
special
process
reports
that
are
water
quality
management
plans
at
the
engineering
department
will
review
when
the
building
permit
comes
in,
so
they
will
not
be
able
to
convey
water
from
their
lot
onto
any
other
lot.
So
I
just
want
to
address
that
issue
that
they
are
required
to
not
have
water
run
onto
another
lot.
A
E
So
if
you,
if
I
know
it's
hard
to
tell
but
yes
there's
a
a
low
retaining
wall,
that
is
a
long
Tuscan.
If
you
flip
to
the
planting
plan,
you
know
that
the
streets
in
that
neighborhood
little
Tuscany
is
rural,
there's,
no
curbs
or
sidewalks,
and
that's
sort
of
the
nice
nature
of
that
neighborhood
and
so
in
the
landscape
plan.
If
we
could
pull
up
the
report.
E
You
see
it
also
here
which
shows
this
low
wall,
and
then
it
drops
off
to
the
the
level
area
of
the
the
pad
the
building
pad
so,
and
this
also
shows
the
edge
of
Pavement
in
the
grading
plan.
So
the
the
actual
property
line
is
about
12
feet
farther
in
it
does
show
other
walls
that
are
along
the
north
property
line
and
the
South
property
line,
and
it's
labeled
as
a
six
foot
tall,
CMU
block
wall
and
the
applicant
right
here.
E
It's
labeled
I
know
it's
hard
to
see
in
this
diagram
and
as
far
as
any
irrigation
along
the
that
for
these
plants,
they
would
need
to
build
the
wall
based
upon
City
standards
and
any
irrigation
that
would
run
or
drain
would
need
to
be
mitigated
or
not
allowed
onto
the
neighbor's
property.
A
E
On
okay,
great
this
location
here,
yes,
it
does
appear
to
be
that
that
the
wall
will
be
taller
on
the
neighbor's
side
versus
the
new
house
side.
A
E
Sheriff
I
could
also
just
pull
up
some
sorry
I'm
a
little
slow
on
the
the
slides.
So
there
are
illustrious
drawings
and
elevations
showing
what
the
house
would
look
like
from
and
I.
Don't
think.
I
have
any.
A
F
We
were
aware
about
the
sewer
when
we
talked
to
public
works
and
that
we
need
to
bring
you
know
the
lines
Water
and
Sewer
will
be
connected
to
it.
We
will
not
be
using
any
gas
since
Title
24
has
changed
so
much.
Everything
is
electrical
solar
panels,
heat
pumps,
heat
pumps
and
water
heaters,
so
we
won't
be
using
any
gas
on
this
project.
What.
F
Electric
well,
yes,
yes,
it
is,
and
on
regards
to
the
Landscaping,
we
can
make
accommodations
to
the
comments
that
that
they
were
state.
We
can
change
substitute.
You
know
to
to
accomplish
that
water.
Retaining
you
know,
like
Glen,
told
us
it's
part
of
the
grading
plan.
It
has
to
retain
the
water
in
the
site.
All
retaining
walls
will
be
per
City
standards
and
we
have
Engineers
who
will
Design
such
walls
and
the
other
ones
that
I'm
missing.
E
Henry,
can
you
come
to
the
counter?
Can
you
cover
up
the
one.
I
Hi
everyone,
as
we
already
talk,
I'm
Henrik
I'm,
the
owner
of
the
property.
There
is
only
one
owner
and
there
was
never
been
another
one,
so
also
the
cost
of
sewer
line.
I
know
that
we
are
paying
for
them
and
none
of
the
neighbors
gonna
share
any
money
off
the
sewer
line
or
water
line.
So
that's
strictly
our
cost
to
do
it.
I
J
Discussion,
I
had
one
more
question
for
the
owners,
because
I
didn't
see
solar
panels
on
here
and
I
said:
I
saw
future
PD
system,
but
I
didn't
see
any
plan
for
solar.
Isn't
that
required
and
wouldn't
that
be
part
have
to
be
part
of
the
submission
on
a
new
build.
A
F
Yeah,
it's
part
of
the
new
building
code
2022,
and
it
will
be
part
of
the
complete
package
of
construction
documents,
fire
sprinklers,
solar
panels.
We
will
complete
the
the
Landscaping
with
lighting
to
to
deem
you
know,
according
to
standards
of
the
city
yeah,
but
it's
part
of
it
and
we're
going
to
try
to
maximize
it
since
we
want
to
do
everything
Electric,
so
we
will
do
according
to
the
calculations,
plus
whatever
demands
needs
of
our
appliances
and
systems.
K
Yeah
as
a
follow-up
to
that
Mike,
where
on
the
roof,
are
you
planning
to
put
the
solar
panels.
F
We
have
several
surfaces
big
enough,
but
we
would
need
to
consult
with
the
Solar
Company
after
we
have
the
title
24
who
the
ask
for
the
demand
of
the
solar
system,
and
then
we
will
provide
that
information
to
the
plotting,
Department,
also
the
building
department,
because
there
are
actually
the
ones
who,
in
combination
with
the
title
24
determine
you
know.
Where
is
the
best
location
to
to
consider
the
panels.
A
And
thank
you
Mike
just
for
your
information,
the
last
number
of
houses
that
we've
seen
that
have
pretty
flat
roofs
that
have
solar
panels
on
the
roof.
The
committee
has
been
asking
that
a
skirt
be
installed
around
the
panel
so
that,
if
you're,
looking
at
the
house
from
off
of
the
property
you're,
not
seeing
under
the
panels
and
you're,
not
seeing
the
side
of
the
panel
to
see
an
architectural,
we.
F
A
A
A
There,
the
stone
veneer
that
surrounds
the
garage
door
is
only
on
that
elevation
of
the
building
and
I
think.
It
always
looks
very
odd
when,
if
you're
looking
at
the
sign
in
the
building
you're,
just
looking
at
the
side
of
the
thickness
of
the
veneer,
the
veneer
I
think
needs
to
wrap
that
side
of
the
building
at
least
a
couple
of
feet
and
I
think
architecturally.
It
would
be
the
most
interesting
if
a
little
I'm
going
to
call
it
pop
out.
A
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
technical
term,
a
little
extension
of
wall
is
there,
so
that
it
can
wrap
around
that
little
wall
extension
and
then
die
back
into
the
wall,
and
that
way
that
will
feel
like
a
three-dimensional
wall.
Just
like
you,
just
like
you
see
over
there
at
the
front
door,
where
you
can
see
about
I'm,
guessing
16
inches
of
stone
return
before
it
hits
the
other
wall.
I
think
that
detail
would
really
help
to
improve
that
look.
C
Just
a
few
Mr
chairman,
the
the
neighbors
questions
regarding
drainage
and
sewer
line,
seemed
to
be
asked
and
answered,
and
also
with
respect
to
the
wall.
Heights
and
those
things
are
are
being
processed
through
the
through
the
precise
grading
plan.
C
From
a
visual
standpoint,
when
I
look
at
the
west
elevation,
I
I
realize
that
we
we've
got
a
couple
shed
roofs
in
some
different
locations
that
are
coming
together
and
I,
just
sort
of
spot
that
as
a
potentially
dicey,
buildability
issue
and
and
getting
getting
the
roofing
and
all
flashed
neatly
up
up
in
there,
and
that
just
looks
like
a
a
potentially
difficult
detail
to
execute.
On
I.
There
was
not
an
exterior
lighting
plan
submitted
I.
Take
it.
E
That's
correct
in
the
plans
we
show
the
or
they're
showing
these
little
sconces
above
the
doors,
but
maybe
Mike
could
address
that.
But
at
this
point
there's
not
a
lighting
plan.
That's
something
that
if,
if
the
committee
wants
to
see
in
a
subcommittee
or
at
staff
level,
that
would
be
up
could
be
your
direction.
Okay,.
C
That
perhaps
we
could
hold
on
that
I
just
don't
want
to
create
more
work,
but
I
do
think
that
if
it
is
of
concern
with
respect
to
to
the
neighbors
right.
C
Right,
okay,
then,
the
the
the
solar
it
I
I
realize
that
this
plan
has
probably
had
several
incarnations
and
been
developed
along
with
being
able
to
integrate
some
some
observations.
The
solar,
eyelashes
I
will
call
them
in
in
the
rendering
that's
up
there.
Now
they
they
look
a
bit
planted
on.
You
know
it.
It
might
be
nice
to
have
something
that
that
was
a
little
bit
better
integrated
into
the
wall
and
what
else?
Okay,
the
it's!
C
It's
that
that
your
your
stucco
finish
I
think
can
work
very
well.
Obviously,
there
are
no
Expansion
Joints,
so
I
assume
that
this
is
some
sort
of
an
acrylic
mix
of
of
some
sort
and
that's
going
to
be
perfect
and
smooth
and
beautiful
and
I
think
I.
Think
that
was
it
Mr
chairman.
J
Great
I'll
go
next
Steve
John,
you
stole
mine
about
the
eyebrows
I'm,
typically,
not
a
fan
of
of
eyebrows
kind
of
stuck
on
the
side
of
the
building.
They
feel
kind
of
arbitrary
and
look
like
kind
of
an
afterthought
so
having
them
integrated
a
bit
more
into
the
facade.
Even
if
possibly
you
wrapped
around
and
tied
them
into
the
other
sort
of
white
part
could
be
something
you
should
look
at
I
think
the
solar
panel
plan
is
important
again
with
the
skirting
issue.
J
I
think
it's
just
the
height
of
it
I'm,
not
sure,
if
there's
a
reason
that
it
is
so
tall,
but
it
it
just
feels
like
it's
kind
of
an
awkward
very
large
shape
over
there.
That
doesn't
kind
of
just
doesn't
feel
right
to
me.
F
Keep
the
same
lines.
You
know
that
they
were
coming
from
the
entrance
into
the
garage
to
tie
it
up
with
the
same
kind
of
fascia,
but
we
can
do
a
little
step
down.
I
have
a
high
heel
on
the
trusses
on
the
garage
and
we
can
probably
bring
a
little
bit
more
of
Harmony
and
don't
make
it
look
so
massive
and
tall
and
probably
overlapped.
You
know
some
of
the
of
of
the
facial
lines,
so
we
could
have
a
little
bit
more
Harmony
and
not
such
a
big
element
on
the
garage
door.
J
L
L
F
L
F
F
L
L
A
To
play
onto
your
comment
on
the
section
that's
on
sheet
1.04:
it
appears
that
there's
a
lot
of
dead
space
between
the
ceiling
of
the
living
room
and
the
structural
roof
above
so
I
would
think
you
could
raise
that
ceiling
at
least
a
foot
or
18
inches,
and
that
would
give
you
the
opportunity
to
make
those
clear
story.
Windows
a
little
bigger.
A
K
Chair,
yes,
yeah
so
are
along
that
same
line
in
the
shed
roof
area,
which
is
where
the
bedrooms
are.
Is
there
a
reason
why
you
have
so
much
AG
space
I
know
you've
got
some
for
your
trusses,
but
it
seems
a
little
excessive
and
the.
What
brings
me
to
that
question
is
I.
Think
from
the
outside
the
proportions
look
out
of
out
of
scale
the
height
the
Heights
in
relation
to
the
windows.
The
horizontal
reveal
how
it
relates
to
the
roof.
K
F
Yes,
we
can,
we
can
accomplish
that
I
I
always
try
to
give
as
much
as
possible
depth
on
the
attic
space
since
we
live
in
a
desert
and
we
use
air
conditioning.
F
You
know
nine
months
out
of
the
year
and
I
hate
when
they
have
problems
trying
to
locate
and
move
Ducks
through
the
ceilings
and
they
end
up
cutting
members
that
are
engineer
so
I
try
to
live
as
much
as
possible,
but
Mr
antonian
owns
HVAC
company
and
we
can
probably
work
with
something
with
a
better
system
with
a
high
velocity
production
or
something
like
that
and
lower
the
profile.
K
We
could
do
that.
Yeah
I,
appreciate
that
I
think
it's
just
the
problem
I'm.
Having
has
to
do
with
the
your
horizontal
reveals
and
how
they,
how
they
kind
of,
are
counter-intuitive
to
a
slope.
Roof
like
that
and
I
think
that
also
applies
to
the
discussion
we
had
with
the
garage
and
how
it
seems
disproportionately
tall
and
I.
K
K
It
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
disparate
kind
of
elements
happening,
and
it's
not
coming
together.
Cohesively.
I
I
The
garage
that
the
members
or
staffs
are
asking
for
to
be
lower
than
the
other
one
I
asked
Mike
to
bring
me
the
other
two
drawings
that
we
originally
done,
the
first
one
that
was
not
accepted
with
the
staff,
the
second
one.
The
entry
was
from
Tucson
or
Tuscan,
the
the
height
of
the
attic
that
you
are
asking
for
because
of
the
hillside
property.
We
have
steps
up
and
down
I'm
a
contractor
myself
since
88
so
I
know.
I
I
If
you
wanted
to
move
the
exterior
up
and
down
and
move
give
minimum
attic
for
anything
for
plumbing
for
HVAC
for
Central
Vacuums
and
everything,
then
the
interior
will
have
stepped
on
like
one
feet
up
one
feet
down:
it's
going
to
be
really
ugly
to
get
in
that
house.
I
So,
with
the
previous
drawing
on
the
garage
was
lower
than
the
building
and
it
wasn't
accepted
with
the
staff
Mike
forgot
to
bring
the
older
drawings
and
the
other
reason
that
we
don't
have
lighting
I
paid
three
times
for
architect
three
times
for
mechanical
three
times
for
landscaping
three
times
for
grading.
This
project
is
already
cost
me
same
amount
as
I
bought
the
land.
I
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
drawing
is
accepted
with
you
before
we
go
through
lighting
or
anything
else
and
to
be
honest,
I'm
not
gonna
pay
another
fee
to
Mike
to
get
me
the
lighting
drawing
if
this
building
is
not
accepted
and
honestly,
if
it's
not
accepted
I,
have
no
problem.
I'm
gonna
put
it
back
for
sale,
I'm
on
it
for
three
years
and
I'm,
really
tired
of
it.
I
C
A
C
A
delineation
of
what
the
visual
screening
element
would
be
correct.
Second
thing
would
be
to
rectify
the
differences
in
the
fascia
dimension
throughout.
C
Exploration
of
the
raising
of
the
main
rooms
ceiling
and
the
reduction
of
the
truss
heel
such
that
those
windows
could
achieve
a
higher
head
height.
A
C
A
C
J
I
I
These
windows
are
about
like
12
to
18,
inches
I,
don't
know
exact
sizes,
but
think
of
if
we
make
these
24
inches
since
it's
their
solid
glass,
they
are
on
top
of
the
before,
basically
from
the
ceiling,
no
blinds
or
anything
will
work
there
and
the
Sun
from
220
feet
by
two
feet
straight
is
gonna.
Go
on
your
living
room!
The
AC
on
this
house
has
to
work
24
hours
to
get
it
cool,
so
just
think
of
it
twice.
Please.
If
you
want
them,
24
we'll
do
it,
but
it's
it's
not
something
to
do
it.
J
I
You
know
no
problem,
no
problem
eliminate
the
windows,
it's
better
yeah.
Thank
you
sure.
A
A
We
are
now
on
to
the
next
item
of
new
business
and
that's
number
three
B
Christopher
Keith
owner
requesting
the
approval
of
a
major
architectural
application
and
administrative
minor
application
for
the
construction
of
a
1536
foot
square
foot.
Addition
to
a
corner
Hillside
lot
located
at
790,
Cabrillo
Road
before
we
get
into
the
discussion
of
this
one
I
think
that
the
submittal
is
not
complete.
A
A
B
Have
a
couple
of
choices
before
you?
If
you
want
to
open
the
presentation
and
have
the
staff
report
or
answer
any
questions
to
the
owner,
you
could
do
so.
You
could
then,
at
that
time
choose
to
continue
the
matter
to
a
date
certain
or
if
you
don't
wish
to
hear
the
staff
report
or
have
any
discussion
of
it
at
this
time.
You
can
make
the
motion
that
the
application
is
incomplete
and
that
you
are
asking
for
those
specific
drawings
and
again
moving
to
move
it
to
a
date.
Certain
well.
A
M
Good
evening
committee
members,
this
is
the
edition
of
an
existing
single-family
home
at
790
Cabrillo
Road.
The
addition
is
approximately
1536
square
feet
as
part
of
the
application.
It
is
also
an
administrative
minor
modification
for
an
over
height
at
the
front
yard.
Setback
facing
the
corner
of
the
project
of
the
property
rather
so
to
further
Orient
us.
The
subject
parcel
is
on
the
corner
of
Cabrillo
Road,
West,
Cabrillo,
Road
and
durasol,
and
the
as
you
can
see
in
this
slide
here.
M
So
this
slide
is
showing
us
where
the
structure
is
of
the
over
height
to
the
facing
the
corner
at
girasol
and
the
showing
this
the
massing
to
the
residents
across
the
street
in
comparison
and
then
also
cross-section
to
the
residents
to
the
north.
On
Duracell.
M
M
So
we
have
we're
looking
at
the
pad
Heights
and
the
pad
height
of
this
finished
Edition
is
within
the
range
of
what's
of
its
neighbors
at
6
81.
and
a
half.
M
So
in
these
slides,
it's
showing
us
again
massing
and
cross-sections
of
what's
going
on
with
the
existing
portion
of
the
house,
which
is
where
the
garage
is
on
the
west
side
and
how
the
addition
will
be
tied
in
to
gentrify.
The
whole
property,
as
you
can
see,
has,
as
you
have
seen
in
some
of
the
site,
photos
that
it
is
in
need
of
a
of
a
remodel.
M
So,
with
your
guidance
and
probably
more
materials
and
details,
the
staff
is
recommended
approval
based
on
the
the
requests
within
a
hillside
lot
and
the
fact
that
the
lot
is
slightly
substandard
does
allow
for
the
overhight
in
the
hillside
area.
K
K
Yeah,
so
are
we
doing
a
full
review
of
this
project,
or
are
we
just
focusing
on
the
height
increase.
K
In
their
drawings
they
show
a
25
foot
setback
for
both
girasol
and
on
Cabrillo
and
normally
on
a
quarter
lot.
Aren't
you
required
to
have
only
20
feet
on
the
side
yard
and
is
there
some
special
condition
for
this
that
it's
different.
M
On
the
actually
because
of
the
the
definition
of
true
front
on
a
corner
lot
and
this
being
in
a
reverse
corner
lot,
condition
that
would
require
both
setbacks
to
be
25.
M
because
of
the
because
of
the
way
that
the
the
neighboring
resident
to
the
north,
and
then
they
have
a
resident
Beyond
them.
So
it
would
create
a
25
foot
setback
on
Duracell
and
because
of
the
the
dimensions
of
the
law
that
also
created
the
25
foot.
Setback
on
Cabrillo.
K
And
then
the
last
question
there's
an
existing
one-car
garage
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
there's
something
that
triggers
the
requirement
to
have
two
covered
spaces,
particularly
when
their
addition
is
much
larger
than
the
existing
house.
M
Planning
staff
was
not
requiring
them
to
add
another
car
as
they
weren't
touching
that
portion
of
the
house.
So
it's
an
addition
to
the
existing
structure
and
currently,
as
it
was
constructed
with
only
one
car.
C
A
J
Yeah
I
just
I,
had
a
question.
I
was
just
asked:
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
from
the
site
plan
and
the
I
think
it
was
the
roof
plan
that
shows
the
encroachment
area
and
I
can't
seem
to
adjust
because
it
on
the
site
plan,
it
looks
like
the
building
is
within
the
within
the
setbacks,
but
on
the
roof
plan,
it's
overlapping
significantly.
So
it
doesn't
kind
of
make
sense
to
me.
K
N
Yeah,
my
name
is
Chris
Keith.
It's
my
house,
I
submitted
full
renderings,
a
grading
plan
survey
stuff
like
a
month
or
so
ago.
So
I
don't
know
why
it's
not
here.
Man
I
just
drove
down
from
LA
to
have
this
presentation
so
I.
Don't
know
why
my
drawings
only
have
a
couple
things
all
that
stuff
was
submitted
about
a
month
or
so
ago.
M
Well,
I've,
been
I've,
been
in
close
discussion
with
there's
engineering
department
and
I
was
not
made
aware
of.
The
grading
plan
was
submitted
with
a
topo.
N
A
So
what
we're
missing
is
the
Robert
I
mean
John
identified
two
exterior
elevations
that
were
missing
and
the
s
grading
plan
Topo
plan
some
detail
to
the
roof
plan,
there's
nothing
that
shows
us
what
the
eaves
look
like
if
the
roof
has
a
pitch
to
it,
where
the
solar
panels
are.
N
I'm
providing
a
place
for
it,
I
haven't
decided
if
I'm
gonna
put
them
in
yet,
depending
on
the
cost.
The
Roof
is
flat.
That's
why
we
extended
out
that's
why
we're
asking
for
the
minor,
whatever
it's
the
minor
modification
on
it,
the
left
and
right
front
Corners
because
of
the
the
the
setback.
It
goes
into
a
slope
at
that
point
like
a
three
to
twelve
slope
or
whatever
four
to
twelve
slope
or
whatever.
N
It
is
I
originally
designed
the
house
with
a
20
foot
side
yard
set
back
on
what
is
it
girasol
and
my
front
yard
25
and
then
I
was
told
afterwards
and
I
had
to
move
it
back
so
I
just
you
know,
just
went
ahead
and
moved
my
house
back
five
feet.
N
And
the
like
I
said,
the
whole
point
was
to
extend
the
existing
house
straight
out,
so
it
looked
like
a
flat
like
modern,
simple
roof
and
all
the
slope.
All
the
sloping
is
hidden
within
the
parapet,
so
the
drink,
so
the
ceiling
for
the
road
from
the
street
looks
the.
N
N
A
Okay,
thank
you
I'm
sorry,
the
package
didn't
get
to
us,
but
we
can't
review
what
we
don't
have
so.
N
A
A
D
D
Like
planning
has
receipt
of
that
so
we'll
look
into
where
you
sent
it,
but
if
you
didn't
send
it,
if
you
didn't
file
it
as
part
of
your
application
or
provide
it
to
your
planner,
we
would
have
no
way
of
including
that
in
the
package
or
knowing
that
it
was
submitted.
So
we'll
look
into
that.
But
but
you
know
all
of
that
needs
to
go
through
Richard.
A
And
that
those
comments
were
from
Chris
Hayden
Arden,
the
planning
director
for
the
city.
So
do
we
have
a
motion.
C
K
Robert,
you
know
yeah
I'm,
sorry,
this
is
Robert
Robin,
there's
a
couple
things
that
I
did
see,
that
I
thought
we
should
bring
up,
at
least
so
that,
if
he's
coming
back,
some
of
these
things
can
be
addressed
at
that
time
as
well
sure,
and
some
of
them
are
questions.
So
the
big
thing
I
have
the
big
thing.
I
have
is
I
really
didn't
see.
K
The
house
is
kind
of
fortress-like
with
the
the
wall
that
goes
around
it
and
the
pool,
but
I
really
don't
see
functionally
how
a
pool
service
is
going
to
access.
The
pool
I
saw
that
there's
a
gate
on
the
North
side,
but
there's
Boulders
all
around
there
and
there's
no
way
that
a
pool
service
is
going
to
get
into
the
pool
area
to
service
it.
So
I
think
there
needs
to
be
some
thought
about
how
that's
going
to
happen.
K
I
also
didn't
see
anywhere
where
the
trash
is
being
stored,
where
pool
equipment
or
any
HVAC
equipment
is
located.
The
plan
shows
a
retaining
wall
on
jirasol
I'm.
Sorry,
the
section
shows
a
retaining
wall
on
jarosol,
but
I
didn't
see
it
anywhere
on
the
plan
and
the
renderings
show
some
trees,
but
I
didn't
see
any
of
those
on
a
landscape
plant
either.
A
Thank
you,
Robert
any
other
comments
or
advice
to
the
applicant
for
what
we
still
need
and
to
to
play
on
to
Robert's
comment
about
the
landscape
plan.
There's
no
landscape
Legend
telling
us
what
the
material
are,
what
the
size
of
the
material
is,
so
it's
just
there
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
just
don't
seem
complete.
N
N
N
A
A
That's
our
that's
our
final
agenda
item.
Does
anybody
on
the
committee
have
any
general
comments.