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C
Good
afternoon
welcome
it's
5
34
p.m,
and
I
am
calling
the
september
29
2021
special
meeting
of
the
historic
site
preservation
board
to
order.
Please
silent,
all
cell
phones.
May
we
please
have
the
roll
call.
A
Yes
good
evening,
madam
chair
member
rose
is
excused
tonight.
Member
hanson.
D
E
A
D
D
C
C
A
Madam
chair,
I
did
receive
a
call
this
afternoon
that
peter
baruchy
was
interested
in
speaking
on
public
comment,
but
I
do
not
see
him
here
in
the
meeting
with
us.
Oh
there
he
is
yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
marzi.
If
you
would
like
to
unmute
your
mic
and
you
have
three
minutes.
G
Hello,
everyone-
this
is
peter
marozzi
of
the
palm
springs
modern
committee.
Regarding
the
mural.
I
am
in
agreement
with
the
staff
recommendation
that
the
hspb
should
grant
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
mural
as
a
temporary
exhibit,
with
the
condition
that
it
be
removed
upon
commencement
of
the
reuse
rehabilitation
of
the
building.
G
G
A
Mr
torres
is
here
as
the
representative
of
the
police
officers
association,
madam
chair,
so
he
probably
will
speak
once
you
questions
that
you
may
have
of
me.
C
Okay,
so
we'll
we'll
do
that
just
a
little
bit
later
so
saying
no
other
speakers
will
proceed
to
the
agenda
items
and
there
are
none
on
the
consent,
calendar
or
public
hearings
or
unfinished
business.
So
we'll
proceed
directly
then
to
the
new
business
agenda
item
4a,
the
palm
springs
police
officers,
association,
seeking
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
installation
of
the
mural
on
the
south
facade
of
the
town
and
country
center.
A
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
As
noted
on
september
15th,
the
palm
springs
police
officers
association
submitted
an
application
seeking
approval
to
install
a
mural
on
the
south
facade
of
the
town
and
country
center,
a
class
one
historic
site.
The
mural
will
be
facing
a
privately
owned
parking
lot
on
the
same
parcel
on
which
the
building
is
located.
The
applicant
has
initiated
installation
of
the
mural
prior
to
obtaining
approvals.
A
A
on
page.
Two
of
your
staff
report
are
the
descriptors
from
the
resolution
defining
the
building
as
a
landmark
about
its
significance.
A
This
pattern
of
development
with
no
building
fenestration
on
the
sides
is
characteristic
of
the
downtown,
where
the
zoning
ordinance
allows
buildings
to
be
built
up
to
the
side
property
lines.
So,
as
noted
on
page
two,
the
proposed
project
is
a
20
foot
by
20
foot
mural
on
the
south
facade
of
the
169
building.
As
you
know,
town
and
country
is
comprised
of
several
different
buildings
and
several
different
addresses.
So
this
is
the
building
that
is
often
referred
to
as
the
zeldas
building
or
that
one
which
is
located
primarily
on
the
indian
canyon
frontage.
A
As
noted,
mural
is
a
visual
memorial
to
palm
springs
police
officers
who
were
killed
in
2016
while
on
duty
and
the
mural
is
intended
to
be
a
part
of
a
commemorative
event
recognizing
the
date
that
the
officers
were
killed,
which
is
october
8th.
It
features
portraits
of
the
two
officers
with
the
almirador
hotel.
In
the
background
on
page
three
of
your
staff
report,
you
can
see
the
image
from
last
week
of
the
mural
already
in
progress
being
painted
on
the
building.
A
The
analysis
for
your
certificate
of
appropriateness
begins
on
page
four
of
your
staff
report
and
what
we
are
noting
as
we've
made.
The
findings
is
that
the
building,
when
you
look
at
it
in
terms
of
this
south
facade,
has
no
character.
Defining
features
on
this
particular
facade.
It
is
a
blank
facade
painted
with
stucco
the
appearance.
Looking
at
the
top
of
page,
five
of
this
mural
on
the
south
facade
could
assist
in
keeping
the
building
in
an
attractive,
well-painted
condition.
A
The
mural
is
also
noted
that,
if,
in
terms
of
affecting
the
historic
resources
or
the
defining
characteristics,
we've
noted
that
the
the
build
the
building
as
it
goes
into
its
rehabilitation
or
reuse,
could
potentially
introduce
or
be
proposed
to
have
openings,
fenestration
windows,
doors
and
so
on.
On
this
south
facade.
A
In
terms
of
the
project's
review
under
sequa,
we
note
that
the
building
is
an
existing
building
and
we
believe
that
a
categorical,
categorical
exemption
as
a
class
one
categorical
exemption.
Existing
structures
is
appropriate
here
and
the
analysis
under
sql
is
provided
for
you
on
page
six,
noting
that
the
alter
the
alteration
must
be
minor,
which
it
is
the
alteration
is
not
on
a
structure.
Excuse
me,
the
alteration
is
on
a
structure.
The
and
country
center
and
that
it
must
not
expand
the
existing
or
former
use,
and
it
does
not
do
that.
A
So
we
believe
that
the
class
one
or
the
type
one
categorical
exemption
under
sequoia
is
appropriate.
A
So,
as
we've
noted,
we
are
recommending
approval
or
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
this
proposed
mural,
with
the
condition
that
once
the
building
does
move
forward
with
its
reuse
and
renovation
that
the
mural
would
be
painted
over
and
the
surface
would
be
returned
to
a
simple
monolithic,
single
painted
color
with
that.
That
concludes
my
staff
report.
A
C
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
lyon.
Does
the
board
have
any
questions
for
mr
lyon,
any
questions
nelson.
H
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
have
one
question
for
staff.
At
the
bottom
of
the
first
page
of
the
staff
report,
there's
a
footnote
saying
that
the
city
is
pursuing
penalties
under
the
municipal
code
for
starting
installation
of
the
mail
prior
to
approvals.
Are
you
able
to
clarify
the
amount
of
those
penalties.
A
I
I've
got
two
related
to
the
relevant
city
actions
back
in
before
I
joined
the
hstv
back
in
april
of
18.
The
hsp
approved
approved
part
of
me,
minor
repairs
and
repaint
are
the
current
colors
on
the
town
and
country
considered
the
original
colors
at
this
point?
Yes,.
I
Okay
and
then
right
before
the
the
lockdown
last
year,
we
approved
the
alterations
which
looked
very
exciting
and
it
was
also
approved
by
the
aac.
Has
the
tenant
indicated
when
they
are
going
to
start
start?
The
improvements
at
all.
A
We
have
not
heard
from
the
building
owner
whether
those
prospective
tenants
are
actually
still
under
potential
lease
contract.
I've
not
heard
anything
from
the
building
owner.
I
do
not
know
whether
the
lease
arrangements
for
those
prospective
tenants
has
fallen
through
or
whether
they're
still
potentially
in
play.
E
Unmute,
please
sorry
yeah,
just
in
reference
to
mr
marusi's
question
about
you
know
the
definition
of
when
work
is
commencing.
Sorry,
I'm
trying
to
look
at
my
recommendation,
commencement
of
the
reuse
rehabilitation.
Do
you
have
a
particular
definition
of
that.
A
I
don't
when
we
generally
think
about
reuse
or
rehabilitation,
we're
looking
at
either
exterior
or
interior
modifications.
They
could
be
tenant
improvements
that
drive
either
interior
or
exterior
renovations,
but
we
did
not
prescribe
that
particular
definition.
That's
one
that
if
you
wish
to
do
so,
you
could
certainly
further
define
in
your
action.
E
D
C
So
now
we
would
like
to
invite
mr
torres
to
please
share
anything
more
about
the
project
for
the
board's
con
consideration
so
welcome
mr
torres
and
unmute.
Please.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
the
board.
My
name
is
michael
torres.
I
am
representing
the
police
officers
association
today.
First
and
foremost,
I
want
to
sincerely
apologize
for
for
how
this
all
kind
of
came
about
and
how
everything
occurred.
I
researched
information
prior
to
starting
this
project.
I
was
given
bad
information,
but
I
take
full
responsibility
for
not
doing
my
due
diligence
and
getting
all
the
facts
straight
prior
to
getting
this.
J
J
In
this
whole
thing,
the
whole
purpose
of
this
of
this
mural
is
to
honor
the
our
two
fallen
officers
who
who
gave
their
lives
for
our
city
and
our
community
additionally,
and
that's
not
really
spoken
upon,
is
the
officers
who
never
came
back
from
that
tragic
incident
and
are
are
still
dealing
with
the
after
effects
of
that
that
incident
on
october,
8th
2016..
J
So
I
just
wanted
to
come
here
today
and
definitely
apologize
for
our
mistakes.
Never
mishaps.
Throughout
this
process.
I
look,
I
would
have
hoped
in
the
future.
If
anything
were
to
cover
again.
We
would
do
this
correctly
and
never
have
you
know,
come
to
this
point
where
we
need
special
meanings
or
anything
of
that
sort.
J
You
know
I,
I
appreciate
any
consideration
you
guys
will
give
to
this,
and
I
the
unders
and
the
power
of
this
mural,
for
not
only
for
officers
for
our
police
department
for
the
families
that
have
been
obviously
been
affected
by
this
tragic
incident
as
well
as
our
community.
I
think
this
is
a
way
just
to
honor
them
and
honor
the
people
that
were
all
involved
in
that
day
and
including
the
community
who
came
together
on
during
that
time
and
really
we
bonded
as
a
community
and
came
together
for
one
another.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
torres
I'd
like
to
ask
the
board
if
there
are
any
further
questions
of
mr
torres
or
or
any
other
questions
that
need
to
come
forth
right
now,
any
questions.
Anyone,
okay,
seeing
no
further
questions.
May
I
please
have
a
motion.
H
H
Not
so
much
a
question
for
mr
torres,
but
maybe
some
comments
just
a
couple
brief
comments.
I
was
just
curious
as
to
whether
there
had
been
any
discussion
about
doing
the
entire
wall
as
opposed
to
just
the
suction
that
was
completed.
H
Also,
I
did
just
drive
by
the
mural
about
an
hour
ago
and
it
turned
out
quite
nice.
It's
very
beautiful
and
I
love
the
fact
that
it
incorporates
another
classroom,
historic
site,
the
elementor
tower.
H
It's
also
worth
noting
that
this
very
unfortunate
incident,
where
these
two
officers
made
the
ultimate
sacrifice,
occurred
the
same
year
that
town
and
country
center
was
designated
a
classroom
effect
over
five
years
ago
now.
So
it's
nice
that
after
that
long,
a
mule
is
finally
going
up
to
honor.
These
two
fallen
officers,
so
just
curious
about
the
wall
and
whether
there's
any
discussion
about
using
the
entire
wall
and
also
if
any
other
sites
had
been
considered
and
what
the
process
was
for
that.
If,
if
anyone
could
answer
that.
C
J
Yes,
ma'am,
so
the
the
size
of
the
mural
was
essentially
based
on
cost.
We
were
doing
the
best
we
can
to
raise
as
much
money
as
we
could
to
make
it
as
big
as
possible.
That
wall
is
very
large
and
for
the
artists
it
was
more
of
a
destroy
doing
the
best
we
can
with
what
we
had
at
that
time.
J
As
far
as
how
it
came
about,
we
were
fortunate
enough
to
to
be
given
opportunity
by
the
we
spoke
to
the
property
owner,
who
was
very
open
to
the
mural
and
understood
the
importance
of
it,
for
us,
for
our
city
and
for
our
police
department
and
was
was
very
gracious
and
allowing
us
to
use
or
give
give
us
his
at
least
his
approval.
As
far
as
using
that
mirror
or
using
that
that
building.
F
Yes,
picking
up
on
what
peter
marutzi
said-
and
ms
hanson
also
mentioned
it
regarding
the
the
time
frame
of
this,
I'm
a
little
concerned
number
one
at
the.
Maybe
the
ambiguity
of
the
of
trying
to
decipher
what
is
commencement
and
but
but
the
bigger
question
that
I
have
is
why
why
tie
it
in
necessarily
to
the
beginning
of
commencement
of
work
on
the
building?
F
If
there's
no
work
going
to
be
done
on
the
exterior
of
the
building
until
a
certain
time,
why
would
we
say
the
mural
should
go
away
if
building
work
is
going
on
on
the
inside
of
the
building?
In
other
words,
it
seems
a
little
unnecessary
to
have
the
mural
go
away.
If
there's
you
know
six
months
or
a
year's
worth
of
work
being
done
on
the
interiors
of
the
structure,
and
then
I
also
think
that
we
need
to
have
some
way
of
extending
the
existence.
F
F
If
you
know
when,
when
the
work
starts
on
the
building,
I
think
we
should
either
tie
it
into
either
commencement
of
business
at
the
building
or
a
certain
percentage
of
the
businesses
are
operating
out
of
the
building
or
maybe
even
just
a
time
frame
again,
with
the
caveat
that
there's
some
sort
of
ability
to
extend
it,
because
I
think
you
know
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
concern
if
the
mural
doesn't
doesn't
get
to
to
be
appreciated
for
a
decent
amount
of
time
and
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
with
how
uncertain
that
timeline
is,
is
attached
as
a
condition.
C
Yeah-
and
I
I
agree
with
you,
mr
miller
too,
that
temporary
is
kind
of
a
loaded
word
and
if
we
could,
you
know,
set
a
time
period
in
which
it
could
be
reviewed,
you
know,
and
and
and
and
continued
or
reviewed
in
some
ways.
So
so
yeah,
it's
it's.
It's
puts
it
in
a
difficult
position.
Hanson.
E
E
I
don't
know
if
the
intent
was
always
that
this
was
going
to
be
temporary
of
the
folks.
You
know
who
funded
and
are
painting
the
mural,
but
if
it's
a
complete
blank
wall
and
a
non-contributing
feature
of
the
building
generally
and
we're
making
a
decision
here
that
it
doesn't
impact
the
building
at
all
as
a
historic
resource,
I'm
not
sure
why
there
would
have
to
be
a
requirement
at
all
that
it's
be
removed.
A
I
want
to
just
clarify:
it
was
staff's
recommendation
to
bring
it
in
with
some
type
of
a
time
period.
We
don't
know
what
will
be
the
ultimate
renovation
plan
for
the
town
and
country
center.
A
When
we
looked
at
the
possibility
of
the
building
undergoing,
you
know
its
rehabilitation
and
the
tenants
are
found
and
tenant
improvements
and
exterior
improvements
are
made
when
you
have
a
tenant,
that's
moving
into
that
building,
you're
going
to
wind
up
having
signage
as
well.
As
I
said
earlier,
we
don't
know
whether
that
south
facade
will
require
any
kind
of
openings
windows,
doors
or
any
other
kind
of
fenestration.
A
So
we
felt
that
it
was
airing
on
the
side
of
caution
to
realize
that
the
building
is
a
historic
site.
This
particular
wall
is
not
a
a
contributing
or
defining
element,
but
the
building
itself
is
a
contributing
element
in
the
town
and
country
center
and
it's
part
of
the
the
significance
historic
significance
of
the
center.
A
You
may
want
to
ask
mr
torres
if
the
association
feels
that
there
is
some
other
more
reasonable
duration
that
might
might
be,
they
might
be
amenable
to
to
figure
out
a
way
to
sort
of
put
some
parentheses
around
its
its
existence.
But
that
is
the
reason
why
we
made
that
recommendation.
C
So
mr
torres
was
there
like
a
time
period,
you
know
three
years
five
years
or
any
any
thought
about
that
the
life
of
it.
If,
in
that
position,.
J
Yes,
madam
chair,
it
was
spoken
upon
of
with
the
owner.
I
I
believe
he
says
that
anywhere
from
three
to
five
years.
What
was
what
he
was
was
gave
us
that
a
general
idea,
and
once
again
you
know
he
doesn't
have
any
immediate
plans
that
we
know
of
just
yet,
as
far
as
the
usage
of
the
building
and
we're
just
grateful
for
for
the
opportunity
to
to
honor
our
officers.
J
As
you
guys
know,
this
is
the
fifth
anniversary
of
the
tragic
incident
and-
and
it's
just
give
us
an
opportunity
to
once
again
bring
the
community
and
bring
the
public
with
with
the
police
office
association
together
and
honor
these
these
these
fallen
officers,
as
well
as
the
people
who
who
were
greatly
impacted
by
this
event.
So
we're
by
no
means
we
understand.
There's
at
some
point
there
may
be,
you
know,
maybe
have
to
be
paying
over
or
whatnot,
but
that
doesn't
change.
J
H
Yes,
I
think
that's
an
excellent
recommendation
by
the
director
and
with
all
due
respect
to
the
officers
association
and
the
mural.
I
do
find
it
a
little
disconcerting
that,
even
though
we
are
the
owner
here
present
at
the
meeting,
the
owner
of
the
property
he's
not
timing
in
about
the
timeline
for
possible,
beginning
or
commencement
of
restoration
work,
it
has
been
over
five
years
five
and
a
half
years
for
the
exact
sense.
H
It
was
designated
and
now
we're
hearing
from
another
source
that
it
could
be
another
three
to
five
years
before,
there's
any
further
work.
I
find
this
to
be
very
disturbing
for
the
jewel
in
the
crown
of
downtown
and
a
classroom
site
that
we
work
so
hard
for
so
many
years
to
get
designated
and
it's
a
really
important
building
and
it's
an
important
mural.
H
So
I
think
we
need
to
weigh
both
things
very
equally
and
it's
time
to
move
forward
with
getting
this
building
the
love
that
it
needs
and
the
mural
is
one
step
in
that
direction.
So
let's
include
the
director's
recommendation
and
whichever
emotion
we
make.
C
D
J
I'm
sorry
I
I
just
to
clarify
that
I
was
given
no
timeline
per
se.
As
far
as
the
what
was
going
to
happen.
Like
I
said
I
I
want
to
make
sure
I
clarify
my
words
here:
we're
hoping
for
three
to
five:
that's
what
we're
hoping
for
to
keep
that
mural
up.
We
never!
We
were
never
given
like
a
specific
time
or
anything
like
that.
So
please!
J
I
don't
want
to
misinterpret
anything,
we're
just
hoping
we're
just
glad
the
opportunity
and
hoping
for
the
opportunity
that
you
will
grant
us
this
opportunity
to
honor
these
officers
this
this
for
this
mural,
that's
coming
up!
So
once
again,
I
don't
want
to
come
off
like
where
we
have
any
inside
information
right
like
that.
We
we
do
not
we're
just
hoping
for
the
very
best
to
do
this
to
do
this.
Mural.
D
D
C
C
Okay,
well
all
second
I'll.
Second,
the
motion,
so
I
do
have
a
motion
by
mr
kaiser
in
a
second
by
by
half.
Is
there
any
discussion
about
that
motion?
Mr
nelson.
H
Yes,
I'd
like
to
propose
an
amendment
to
the
motion
and
the
amendment
would
be
to
follow
the
staff
report
recommendation,
but
to
add
what
the
director
suggested
that
at
which
time
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
come
forward
for
the
town
and
country
center
for
any
work
to
be
reviewed
by
the
hspb,
that
we
then
consider
the
mural
at
that
time,
as
well.
H
Whatever
that
time
frame
may
be,
however,
I
think
we
should
put
a
cap
on
it
because,
as
members
of
the
community
have
pointed
out-
and
like
the
staff
report
says,
this
is
a
temporary
thing,
so
I
would
suggest
maybe
that
can't
be
three.
F
Under
discussion
of
the
amendment,
would
it
make
sense
to
also
say
for
a
period
of
up
to
five
years,
unless
further
extended
by
the
hspb?
Let's
say
no
work
is
proposed.
It
would
be
unfortunate,
of
course,
if
no
work
were
to
come
forward
on
the
building
and
the
rehab
in
five
years.
But
if
it
does
happen,
I
wouldn't
necessarily
want
the
mural
to
just
have
to
be
painted
over
theoretically,
but
rather
the
hsb
pv
could
look
at
extending
the
mural
for
another
period
of
time
to
allow
it
to.
F
C
May
I
clarify
the
what
the
director
said
flynn
is
that,
in
keeping
with
what
you
originally
stated,.
H
This
mural
cannot
be
a
permanent
part
of
this
building
because
at
which
time
it
comes
back
before
the
board
that
we
review
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
allow
the
work
to
move
forward.
H
The
mural
won't
be
part
of
a
character
defining
feature
of
a
classroom
site,
so
the
appropriate
thing
to
do
at
that
time
would
be
to
ask
for
the
mural
to
be
painted
over.
I
know
nobody
wants
to
hear
that.
No
one
wants
to
suggest
that
and
I'm
not
being
malicious
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
That's
just
the
reality
of
a
classroom
fact
the
reality
of
what
restoration
entails
and
based
on
the
secretary
of
interior
standards.
It
is
our
duty
as
a
stop
site
preservation
board
to
see
to
it
that
the
restoration
meets
those
standards.
H
So
I
would
suggest
that
after
the
time
limit,
we
set
whether
three
or
four
or
five
years
that
as
part
of
the
motion,
the
police
officers
association
find
another
location
at
the
expiration
at
that
time
for
the
mural
to
be
painted.
D
C
Okay,
well,
we
do.
We
do
have
that
motion
and
we
have
a
second.
We
have
the
amendment
accepted
as
well.
C
And
so
do
we
have
a
good
understanding
of
of
the
motion
now?
Do
you
think.
F
That
for
the
minutes
or
the
recap.
A
Well,
let
me
try
and
then
you
may
correct
me
in
any
way
that
makes
sense.
It
seems
to
me
that
you're
making
a
motion
recommending
that
you
grant
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
mural
to
be
on
the
building
in
a
temporary
basis
and
that
either
upon
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
involving
a
reuse
or
rehabilitation
of
the
building
or
five
years,
it
sounds
like
kind
of
whichever
comes
first.
The
mural
would
be
considered
by
the
hsbb
at
that
time
as
part
of
that
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
removal.
F
But
but
I
think
you
need
to
add
that
it's
at
in
any
event,
it's
for
a
minimum
of
five
years,
unless
the
hsb
you
know
has,
has
reviewed
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
changes
to
the
center
as
part
of
the
renovation.
So
in
other
words,
if
no
nothing
comes
forward
to
the
board
in
regard
to
the
renovation,
the
mural
is
allowed
to
remain
for
a
period
of
five
years
unless
it
was
extended
by
the
board
at
a
duly
notice
hearing.
F
I
wanted
that
to
be
clear
as
well
that
that
it
wasn't
as
a
temporary
measure,
it's
not
out
there
for
30
years.
Theoretically,
because
that
wouldn't
be
temporary,
I
mean
that's
where
we're
trying
to
define
or
give
some
definition
to
the
word
temporary.
I
think.
F
Well,
when
you
know
mr
kaiser
raised
the
issue
of
changing
it
from
three
years
to
five
years.
I
thought
that
was
a
fair
request
and
position.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you're
comfortable
with
that
five
years,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
mural
is
going
to
go
away
necessarily
after
five
years,
if
there's
no
work
on
the
building,
that
has
required
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
but
the,
but
the
board
would
see
it
again,
just
as
we
are
tonight
to
extend
it
beyond
that
five
years.
H
Yeah,
I'm
fine
with
the
five
year
mark
as
long
as
we
can
word
it
in
the
way
that,
whichever
comes
first
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
review
of
work
to
be
done
to
the
building
or
the
five
years,
whichever
period
comes
first,
at
which
time
the
board
will
consider
whether
the
mural
can
remain
or
be
painted
over.
A
C
There
for
you,
okay,
so
all
right,
so
we
we
have
the
motion
and
the
amendment
in
the
second
and
discussion
are.
Are
we
any
more
discussion
on
this
motion?
Okay?
So
I'm
going
to
call
for
a
vote
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye.
F
C
Okay,
any
opposed
okay.
The
motion
passes
six
to
zero.
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you,
mr
torres
for
being
present
tonight
and
giving
us
your
comments.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Okay,
thank
you
so
that
completes
today's
agenda.
Are
there
any
other
comments
from
the
board
that
you'd
like
to
make
today?
Mr
nelson.
H
Yeah
we're
all
aware
of
the
timing
of
this,
and
it's
really
unfortunate
that
things
didn't
unfold
in
a
better
way.
H
H
We
have
made
the
entire
world
aware
of
that,
and
you
know
historic
buildings
are
art
themselves
and
the
art
of
preservation
and
the
art
of
history
is
very,
very
important
here
and
I
think
we
owe
it
to
ourselves
as
a
community
to
better
synchronize
with
these
types
of
applications
and
the
public
commission
to
make
sure
this
doesn't
happen
again
in
the
future,
regardless
of
who
is
applying
for
the
mural
and
what
kind
of
mural
it
is.
H
It's
very
important
that
this
process
be
respected
on
both
ends
by
all
parties,
just
for
the
fact
of
our
city
and
the
sake
of
our
tourism,
our
architecture
and,
of
course,
our
police
officers,
who
keep
it
a
beautiful
space
place
to
live.
So
that's
my
comment.
Thank
you,
mr
toys.
C
Thank
you,
mr
nelson.
Any
other
board
member
comments
any
others
this
evening.
Okay,
does
staff
have
any
comments
this
evening,
mr
lyon,.
C
Okay,
so
seeing
no
further
discussions,
this
special
meeting
of
the
hspb
is
adjourned
to
the
meeting
of
tuesday
october
5
2021
at
5,
30
p.m,
and
thanks
everyone
for
your
very
careful
attention
and
consideration
this
evening
for
this
very
special
meeting,
very
significant.