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C
Chair
we
have
attempted
to
take
action
on
these
minutes
for
quite
some
time
and
because
of
the
attendance
at
that
meeting,
we've
never
been
able
to
have
a
quorum
in
reviewing
this
matter
with
the
city
attorney.
He
has
indicated
that
if
we
have
a
positive
vote
of
three
of
the
members
who
were
there
in
attendance,
then
we
can
approve
these
minutes
and
so
on
this
item
we
will
be
looking
to
members
Jake
way,
Cassidy
and
song
for
their
approval
of
the
minutes.
Everyone
else
will
be
noted,
as
abstaining
from
that
vote.
G
B
A
You
chair,
this
is
a
request
for
a
minor
contextual
application
for
the
exterior
paint
of
an
existing
retail
building
and
a
new
parking
lot
landscaping
related
to
the
grocery
store
outlet
within
the
central
business
district
at
350,
South
Palm,
Canyon
Drive.
So
the
proposed
project
is
to
take
this
building.
If
you
look
at
the
slides
in
front
of
you,
it
currently-
or
it
was
formerly
a
Staples
office
supply
building,
which
is
fakin
for
quite
some
time.
The
application
will
repaint
the
building
to
a
brown
beige
color
with
inlays
of
a
darker,
Brown
and
red.
A
A
Currently,
the
site
is
fronts
along
Palm
Canyon,
with
its
back
to
Indian
Canyon
Drive.
There
are
two
entrances
to
the
site
off
of
both
palm
and
Indian.
There
is
ample
parking
for
the
use.
Currently,
there
are
25
mature
tall
palm
trees
that
will
remain
in
other
landscaping.
That
will
be
included.
Will
freshen
the
area
with
a
decomposed,
granite
and
desert,
but
home-schooled
Palm,
Springs
gold.
A
In
your
packet
there
is
a
floor
plan
showing
how
the
interior
of
the
store
will
operate.
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
rear
along
Indian
Canyon.
There
is
a
loading
dock
that
currently
is
serviced
services,
all
ability
all
the
uses
within
the
building,
which
includes
the
Rite
Aid
and
the
the
little
Mexican
restaurant.
That's
there.
A
A
There
is,
this
is
a
roof
plan
showing
the
mechanical
equipment
which
will
be
on
the
roof.
As
you
can
see,
the
the
top
is
what
faces
Indian
Canyon
there
is
a
large
parapet,
is
around
the
building,
so
the
mechanical
equipment
will
not
be
seen
from
the
street
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
These
are
some
photographs
of
a
site.
This
shows
the
the
two
curtain
walls
of
glass.
There
also
are
these
black
lanterns
that
are
decorative
that
will
be
removed
from
the
site.
A
The
parking
lot
is
in
good
shape.
It'll
just
be
a
few
repairs
here,
and
there,
in
this
picture,
of
course,
is
the
landscaping
that
is,
that
just
needs
some
refresh.
This
is
along
the
Indian
Canyon
frontage,
and
once
again,
this
photograph
graph
is
of
the
parking
lot.
So
currently,
there
is
no
lighting
within
the
parking
lot,
but
they
will
be
adding
light
poles
that
are
maximum
height
of
25
feet
that
are
shoe
box.
That
will
focus
the
light
downward.
A
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
project
also
requires
a
conditional
use
permit
and
your
recommendation
will
go
forward
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
the
major
or
the
minor
architectural
and
the
Planning
Commission
will
look
at
the
the
use
or
the
conditional
use
within
the
central
business
district.
So
there
are
several
issues
that
staff
would
like
to
raise.
One
is
the
there
is
no
provision
for
carts.
As
we
all
know,
grocery
stores
have
grocery
carts
that
go
in
and
out.
A
There's
no
location,
as
you
can
see
on
the
front
of
this
building
where
the
carts
will
be
stored
or
located,
and
staff
would
like
to
have
the
applicant
address
that
also
the
cart
storage.
The
cart
Corral's
in
the
parking
lot
they're
not
shown
we'd
like
to
know
where
they'll
be,
and
also
in
this
area
of
town
downtown.
There
can
be
an
issue
with
cart
threat
theft.
What
will
what
measures
will
they
be
using
to
prevent
the
carts
from
being
taken
off
the
site?
And
one
other
issue
is
the
containment
of
trash?
A
There
are
no
dumpsters
on
the
site,
they're,
not
its
specifically
stated
in
the
floor
plan
as
to
where
the
trash
collection
will
be,
and
once
again
storage
of
trash
outside
may
become
a
problem
in
the
downtown
section
of
the
city.
So
staff
has
listed
our
findings
for
architecture
review
and
the
applicant
is
here-
and
that
concludes
my
report.
Chairman
thank.
E
G
G
I
H
B
Still
have
a
historian,
okay,
are
there
questions
for
staff
and
Glenn
the
the
brick
was
not
painted
over
time?
Was
it
it.
J
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Katie,
chard
and
I
am
representing
Grocery
Outlet
tonight
address
three
0:05
Douglas
Boulevard
Roseville
California,
nine,
five,
six
six
one
I
do
have
with
me
today.
Several
members
of
the
team,
Richard
burrow,
is
the
architect.
Jacob
glaze
is
the
landscape
architect,
and
we
have
two
Grocery
Outlet
representatives,
clay,
mcfarland,
who's
with
operations
and
nausea,
who
is
with
construction
and
architecture,
so
I
think
with
the
team
we
can
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
about
the
project.
J
It's
not
a
street
tree
I,
don't
think,
as
you
had
asked
so
so
with
that
we
are
available
to
answer
any
specific
questions
that
you
may
have
unless
you'd
like
me
to
go
ahead
and
just
address
some
of
the
things
that
were
brought
up
previously
yeah.
Could
you
do
that?
Okay?
So
we'll
start
with
the
cart
containment
and,
as
correctly
noted,
the
the
floor
plan
and
the
site
plan
do
not
note
where
the
carts
will
be
stored.
J
The
there
are
several
locations
or
two
or
three
locations
in
the
in
the
parking
lot
or
directly
in
front
of
the
store.
If
you
look
at
your
floor
plan
immediately
to
the
right
of
the
entrance
doors
where
it
says
bargain
pricing
right
up
against
the
storefront,
the
sidewalk
area
outside
of
that
is
where
one
cart
containment
would
be
located,
and
then
there
would
be
one
or
two
more
in
the
parking
lot.
And
let
me
just
ask
if
there's
a
specific
location,
that's
been
identified
on
the
site
plan.
J
B
B
J
Let
me
see
what
this
is
called
right
here:
Oh
existing
elevator.
Is
that
what
this
says
here
right,
but
behind
that?
So
if
you
look
at
your
floor
plan
on
the
right
hand,
side,
it
looks
like
it's
in
the
well.
It
is
an
exterior
location,
but
it
says
exterior
elevator
and
then,
if
you
go
towards
the
back
of
the
building,
you'll
see
where
the
trash
enclosure
is
located
and
it
is
not
identified
on
this
plan.
But
that
is
where
the
trash
enclosure
is
located
and
you'll
see.
J
B
K
E
F
E
E
E
L
L
L
What
we're
doing
is
we're
redoing
the
8a
in
the
front
of
the
building
or
making
it
all
code-compliant
up
your
current
code
standards,
as
well
as
adding
your
new
truncated
domes
across
the
property
front,
there's
kind
of
adding
that
that
entrance
feel
so
that
people
when
they
drive
up
or
they
walk
through
the
area
they
say
hey.
This
is
where
I'm
entering
the
store
and
kind
of
visualizing
and
making
people
walk
to
that
general
area,
I'm
more
of
like
a
wayfinding
but
on
the
actual
payment
itself.
So.
L
Course,
I'd
be
happy
to
so
see,
so
your
front
door
is
gonna,
be
generally
right
in
this
area.
Right
here
this
is
gonna,
be
so
when
the
person
drives
in
they
see
this
nice
glass
facade,
they'll
be
able
to
drive
in
here.
Of
course
you
don't
want
to
have
handicap
parking
or
any
type
of
park
here,
because
it's
a
headache
for
everybody.
That's
experienced
that
too,
back
in
and
out
of
the
front
door
would
be
kind
of
in
this
area.
L
So
anybody
coming
from
the
parking
lot
would
either
come
in
on
the
sidewalk
here
coming
through
the
parking
lot
through
these
kind
of
a
da
tiles
that
have
been
large
and
are
increased
for
that,
and
then
the
actual
intent
and
we
kind
of
talked
about
a
little
bit
earlier.
So
if
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
have
an
exterior
cart,
contain
cart
Corral,
it
would
be
sitting
kind
of
in
this
area,
whether
it
be
inside
or
extra
I.
Let
my
my
partner's
answer
that
I.
E
Guess
I
feel
that
there's
an
opportunity
there
because,
as
it
focuses
on
the
main,
drive
aisle-
and
it
is
not
the
front
door
to
somehow
remove
some
of
that
hard
scape,
develop
a
planter
area
or
low
planting
or
just
something
more
decorative
or
some
way
to
improve
that
I
believe
you
could
still
have
the
striping
necessary
for
the
handicapped
access,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
it
needs
to
be
as
large
as
what's
showing
on
the
site
plan.
Now
both
try
to
minimize
the
striped
area
and
the
concrete
area
to
create
a
more
welcoming
type
entrance.
E
L
I
can
answer
that
in
two
fold,
so
we
did
actually
look
at
this
originally
with
with
our
internal
landscape,
architect
and
as
well
as
our
team
to
talk
about
the
striping.
The
one
thing
that
we
didn't
really
want
to
take
away
from
is
the
the
big
glass
wall.
It's
kind
of
adding
that
architectural
feel.
L
So
we
thought,
if
we
went
through
and
added
a
bunch
of
trees
and
planters
to
that
area
would
actually
be
blocking
that
big
glass
wall,
so
we
can
definitely
re-explore
adding
some
type
of
landscaping
or
maybe
a
low
shrub
to
that
area.
But
we
didn't
want
to
take
away
from
that.
That
kind
of
the
history
our
architect
of
the
house,
was
talking
about
it
earlier
so
I
just
we
didn't
want
to
pull
away
from
that,
but
there
is
definitely
an
opportunity
to
look
at
that.
We'd
be
more
than
happy
to
revisit
that
as
a
team.
E
Because
I
don't
believe,
there's
any
access
there,
so
it
looks
like
you
could
actually
create
a
curbed
area
with
just
some
lower
accent.
Landscaping,
it's
not
going
to
block
the
window.
The
windows
really
sometimes
had
back-of-house
materials
there
and
then
create
more
of
a
decorative
paving
area
for
the
end
for
the
entrance
itself.
F
E
Well,
my
recommendations
on
the
landscape
would
be
that
the
existing
tall
palms
be
replaced
with
the
city
required,
washing
Tony
of
Philip,
Holmes,
Street
palms
and
and
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
again
on
Indian
Avenue
right
now.
As
you
go
down
there,
those
palm
trees
are
so
tall
at
eye
level.
You
really
see
nothing,
but
a
trunk
and
and
I
think
with
the
vignettes
or
the
arched
areas,
there's
an
opportunity
to
create
more
interest.
You
know
on
that
side
of
the
building
at
eye
level.
You
know
both
at
eye
level
and
pedestrian
level.
E
They
are
proposing
some
Texas
Ranger.
It
looks
like
I
believe
in
that
area.
Yeah
in
my
concern
with
that
is
because
the
building
so
tall
a
lot
of
times
that
areas
is
in
shade.
You
know,
gets
the
Morning
Sun,
but
the
Texas
Ranger
kind
of
gets
gray
and
woody
when
it's
shaded
that
long
and
I
just
think
there's
an
opportunity.
You
know
both
along
the
Palm
Canyon
frontage
and
the
Indian
frontage,
to
do
to
create
something
more
interesting.
C
Madam
chair
I
just
want
to
clarify,
as
mr.
Malachor
indicated
earlier,
the
requirement
that
the
city
has
four
palm
trees
on
Palm
Canyon
is
in
the
public
right-of-way
on
the
curb
side
of
the
sidewalk.
What's
being
shown
here
in
the
landscape
plan
are
the
on-site
trees,
and
so
we
wouldn't
require
them
to
replace
those
trees.
Okay,
what.
C
F
D
I'll
tell
you
what
I'm
opposed
to
number
one.
It
has
no
relation
to
the
fenestration
of
the
adjacent
storefront
in
terms
of
height.
It
looks
like
it
may
be,
an
8
foot
door
or,
and
the
horizontal
is
like
it's
7
feet
or
6,
8
or
whatever.
So
there's
no
relationship
across
the
building
and
number
two
it
just.
It
really
looks
like
a
warehouse
entrance
and
for
something
that
faces
onto
Palm
Canyon,
even
though
it
may
be.
Your
standard
I
think
we
would
like
more
more
sense
of
an
entry.
We.
K
Standard
16
feet
door.
So
as
long
as
we
maintain
that
and
keep
that
we
are
okay
with
having
a
lining.
I
understand
your
concern
in
terms
of
design.
We
can
align
that
glass.
That
is
right
on
the
right
hand,
side
we
can
keep
it
on
the
left
hand,
side
as
well
and
just
have
to
both
keep
being
in
harmony
with
each
other
and.
D
K
And
there's
merchandising
in
there,
so
what
we
do
in
order
for
it
to
look
bad
on
the
outside.
We
put
graphics
on
the
glass
so
on
the
right-hand
side,
glass,
the
big
thunder
you'll
see
graphics
of
our
store
of
the
produce
or
any
sorts
of
graphic
that
we
use.
So
that
really
covers
the
backside
of
the
merchandising.
So
it
doesn't
so.
K
D
And
then
there
is
currently
a
disabled
access.
It
looks
like
for
the
next
door
tenant
and
I'm.
Not
it's
not
really
showing
up
on
the
site
plan
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
with
your
new
plan
that
if
that
needs
to
be
maintained,
that
it
is
maintained-
and
you
can
see
a
little
bit
of
the
railing
and
one
of
the
photos.
L
D
L
D
D
K
K
K
Enclosure
first,
this
is
it
and
there's
our
doors,
metal
gates
and
the
cart
crawl.
Our
plan
is
to
locate
it
here,
of
course,
will
protect
with
a
little
curb
or
something
of
the
the
glass
storefront,
and
then
there
will
be
two
or
one,
depending
on
the
size,
on
the
actual
parking
lot
as
well.
A
cart
storage,
oh.
I
K
C
K
G
I
K
I
A
B
I
K
G
My
question
was
addressed
in
that
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
some
consideration
is
given
to
the
entryway
the
window
unit
that
is
ultimately
designed
so
that
it
blends
in
a
little
better
and
I
think
I
think
we've
established
that
that
will
be
addressed
so
I.
Think
I'm
I
mean
I'd,
be
curious
to
see
what
that
ultimate
solution
is,
but
we'll
decide
later
how
we
want
to
handle
that.
H
A
H
As
I
look
at
the
floor
plan,
I
am
concerned
about
the
shelving:
that's
against
that
window
on
the
right
and
also
on
the
side
elevation
where
there's
a
glass
storefront
wall
that
they
have
wine
racks
against
those
windows.
And
it
really
looks
bad
when
you
can
see
the
backside
of
those
racks
from
outside
of
the
building.
Also,
I
noticed
that
they're
required
to
have.
H
44
spaces
are
required
and
64
spaces
are
provided
it's
quite
over
parked
compared
to
what
our
code
allows
and
I
think.
If
the
parking
numbers
were
more
closer
to
just
the
requirement
of
44,
we
could
certainly
get
more
landscaping
and
possibly
even
maybe
take
eliminate
the
angled
parking
I
find
when
you're
making
people
go
one
way
through
a
parking
lot
in
inevitably
somebody's
going
the
wrong
way,
and
then
it
just
gets
everybody
infused
and
then
I'm
still
a
little
confused
on
the
Indian
Avenue
side.
H
K
H
B
So,
let's,
let's
clarify
a
couple
of
things
on
on
your
site,
planned
where
you
say
at
the
middle
of
landscape:
Valley,
Line
where's,
this
existing
light
pole
typical.
Are
you
planning
to
keep
the
pole
and
replace
the
pole
lighting
or
are
you
playing
planning
because
there's
a
whole
new
detail
on
EP
104,
a
pole
lighting.
L
Again,
Jacob
glaze
can
we
horn
all
new
lighting
would
be
across
the
site,
so
there
were
previous
light
poles
that
were
installed
across
the
site
and
a
couple
of
them
were
either
damaged.
Knockdowns.
You
know
the
copper
wiring
was
stolen
out
of
them,
so
in
essence
to
not
have
a
parking
field
full
of
a
bunch
of
spotlights
that
one
looks
like
this.
One
looks
like
that:
a
bunch
of
Mickey
Mouse
for
the
term.
Everything
will
be
one
standard,
light
pole
that
we'll
use
across
the
site.
B
L
A
couple
of
those,
but
also
I,
think
you
can
actually
you
can
see
it
kind
of
perfectly
inside
of
this
picture,
so
the
landscape
island,
on
the
right-hand
side,
where
there's
a
currently
a
tree.
There
was
a
light
pole
base
there.
Previously
that
light
pole
to
the
lack
of
my
better
knowledge
was
there's
existing
life
while
there,
which
we
saw
but
in
like
all
our
aerial
photography,
but
ultimately
it's
not
there
anymore.
L
L
B
B
L
L
B
B
B
In
to
the
to
the
repaint
scheme,
for
example,
on
that
middle
South,
Indian
Canyon,
exterior
ation,
you
you
have
this
sort
of
the
columns.
The
brick
columns
are
painted
and
I
mean
not
painted
there,
the
brick
colors
and
then
the
the
top
is
to
show
that
sort
of
archway.
But
then
it
stops
at
the
brick
all.
B
F
B
And
it
was
that
on
purpose
to
be
off-center.
Yes,
did
you
have
any
consideration?
This
is
what's
facing
that
perhaps
between
three
and
six
o'clock
in
August,
you
might
need
some
aiding
at
the
entry
or
some
consideration
of
the
entrance
treatment.
It
was
that
limited
by
budget,
or
is
that
something
that
you
know
this
corporation
doesn't
really
consider
well.
F
B
B
But
you
but
you
had,
but
you
were
going
to
go
through
the
expenses
of
removing
the
storefront
system
and
plastering
to
a
new
opening
for
the
sliding
door
at
the
entrance.
Yes,
do
you
know
if
the
for
the
lack
of
term
I'm
going
to
call
it
sort
of
accordion
metal
screen
door
screen
press
on
the
inside?
Would
that
be
kept
or
would
that
be
removed?.
F
F
B
We
were
there
any
consideration
that
you
have
about
20
parking
spaces,
perhaps
putting
the
handicapped
spaces
a
little
bit
further
apart
and
have
a
little
more
room
for
people
to
come
in
and
out,
and
then
the
carts
to
be
stored.
Sort
of
that
whole
front,
ditch
area
to
allow
more
room
for
people
coming
in
and
out
during
consideration
for
that
they.
L
Answer
your
questions
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
two-part
question.
We
looked
at
putting
the
80s
all's
the
closest
to
the
to
the
actual
building
or
closer
to
the
front
door
as
far
as
actually
providing
additional
space,
whether
it's
removing
a
stall
on
the
left-hand
side
or
or
pushing
over
into
where
we're
talking
about
the
car
storage
area
to
be
possibly
the
there
wasn't
a
real
true
consideration
for
that.
But
I
mean
if
that's
something
that
the
planning
can
that
you
guys
would
like
to
like
to
see.
B
This
point
this
is
good.
I
am
I'm,
excited
that
this
project,
that
the
site
is
going
to
be
occupied,
I
think
we're
all
thumbs
up
for
that
and
we're
glad
that
you're
here
and
it's
nice
to
have
a
a
store
such
as
this
in
downtown
so
kudos
on
that.
But
this
is
a
time
we'll
start
discussion
discussing
on
your
project,
and
so,
if
you
have
any
comments,
we
will
open
it
up
if
we
choose
to,
if
not
in
the
discussion
will
continue
just
within
this
panel
here.
E
All
this
time
to
make
notes,
yes,
I
agree
with
you.
It's
an
opportunity
here
to
it's
a
change
of
use
and
and
to
enhance
the
site.
It
I
think
the
concerns
I
have
is
it's
with
the
circulation
and
parking
and
the
entry
that
I
think
there's
some
opportunities
there
to
Reese
teddy
the
entry
area
and
to
better
define
it
in
that
whole
corner
where
it
meets
the
adjacent
building.
You
know,
there's
a
blank
wall,
there's
the
ramp.
E
There's
you
can
see
it
in
that
I
believe
it's
that
Center
photo
I
think
that
area
needs
to
be
studied
and
kind
of
blowing
up
in
detail.
Another
area
that
I
see
an
opportunity
we
really
haven't
talked
about
it.
Much
is:
is
the
north
side
of
the
building,
there's
a
one-way
Drive
aisle
and
and
not
knowing
that
the
width
of
the
existing
drive,
aisles
I
think
member
Jake
way
brought
up
the
concern
that
maybe
there's
some
opportunities
within
the
parking
lot
to
improve
that
there's
a
lot
of
asphalt.
E
E
To
somehow
better,
you
know
direct
that
there
does
that
one
way
I'll
need
to
be
that
large
or
if
the
parking
lot
circulation
who
was
read
are,
though
Isles
existing
Isles
wide
enough
to
make
them
two
way
and
that
whole
area
could
be
eliminated
or
somehow
reconfigured.
It's
just
a
confusing
area
with
a
lot
of
hard,
scape
and
I
think
that
north
side
of
the
building
needs
to
be
looked
at
in
terms
of
site
planning
and
design
and
I
I
believe
there's
opportunities
for
enhanced
landscaping
on
both
street
frontages
they're.
D
D
Look
like
an
entry
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
can't
maintain
the
storefront
on
both
bays
in
some
way
and
integrate
the
entry
into
it.
I
also,
you
know
I'm
not
fond
of
the
Don
Quixote
lanterns,
but
having
those
two
empty
Bay's
or
all
the
bays,
basically
around
the
building
empty
kind
of
I.
Think
something
needs
to
be
thought
about
those
areas
as
well.
I
Along
the
same
lines
of
what
other
folks
are
saying
here
and
and
I'm
gonna
start
with
the
landscape
items
and
the
site
items
I
think
that
the
the
recommendation
to
change
the
palms
within
it
and
I
know
tom
was
thinking
that
was
a
part
of
a
city
ordinance
within
the
property.
I
still
think
it's
a
great
idea
for
this
site
that
the
existing
Mexican
fan
palms
that
we
see
really
look.
They
really
create
this
kind
of
rowdy
sense
of
this
bear
telephone
pole.
That's
that's
consistent
of
this
parking
lot.
I
Now,
when
I
look
at
the
landscape
plan,
not
a
lot
has
changed.
There's
existing
trees.
We
don't
really
know
what
they
are.
They're
just
called
a
existing
and
those
tan
ones,
but
primarily
it
looks
like
existing
palms
and
we
see
from
the
photos
that
they're
those
taller,
maybe
nearing
the
end
of
their
life
spam,
a
bunch
of
fence
posts
and
in
the
project
there
so
I
like
that
recommendation,
even
though
it's
nothing.
F
I
With
the
city
ordinance,
so
that
would
be
my
recommendation
with
landscape
in
regard
to
species
with
that
item
along
the
the
west
side
of
the
building
and
I
I
know
that
some
folks
are
against
doing
nothing
in
front
of
those
recess.
Stucco
areas
of
the
building
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
that,
can
be
solved
with
a
restructuring
of
this
parking
lot
and
and
re-examine
of
the
landscape
and
how
that's
laid
out
in
front
of
the
building.
I
heard
a
couple
things
from
the
civil
engineer
about.
I
Maintaining
a
landscape
that
also
between
the
North
facade
of
the
building
and
the
north
parking
and
I
think
that
restructuring
of
the
parking
gets
rid
of
the
double
aisle
the
double
Drive
circulation
aisle,
and
moves
that
existing
southern
parking
on
the
north
further
south
towards
the
building.
This
way,
I
think
this.
I
The
recreation
of
the
entry
here
with
the
glass
doors
and
the
elimination
of
the
existing
glass
facade
or
storefront
air
around
the
existing
entryway
and
so
I'd
like
to
see
that
go
back
to
glazing
and
a
storefront
system.
I
think
this
building
has
probably
evidently
been
had
a
few
modifications
over
the
years
that
have
gotten
it
to
this
point,
and
this
seems
like
yet
another
one
that
could
potentially
be
in
the
wrong
direction.
We're
at
least
currently
those
two
bays
on
the
the
southern
bays
on
that
west
side.
I
I
Actually,
let
me
let
me
just
wrap
up
a
sight
thing
here,
so
so,
along
with
that
West
parking
along
the
west
side
of
the
building
down
at
the
southern
end,
where
thank
you
guys
have
talked
about
some
cart
storage,
that's
probably
more
of
an
overnight
storage
location
and
throughout
the
business
hours.
It'd
be
interesting
if,
if
that
along
the
southern
space
is
their
furthest
south
on
that
West
parking
lot,
but
the
ones
the
two
or
three
spaces
furthest
east
closer
to
the
building.
I
If
that
couldn't
be
modified,
that
parking
area
and
potentially
some
trees
out
of
there,
that
concrete
had
some
surgery
on
that
we're
really
at
adding
a
fair
amount
of
planting.
They
could
not
only
screen
the
building
to
the
south,
but
also
screened,
some
of
that,
the
cart
storage
area
to
the
east
in
between
the
building
and
the
parking
area,
and
with
that
I'm
done
with
that
site
stuff
the
floor
plan.
What
I
was
saying
scares
me
a
bit
with
the
shelving
on
the
interior.
I
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
that
that's
not
going
to
turn
into
signage
or
a
potpourri
of
product
within
that
window
there
and
extremely
hard
to
control
in
terms
of
code
enforcement
and
signage
or
lack
of
signage,
and
so,
if
that's
possible,
to
rethink
the
bargain
promo
for
sets
of
shelves.
There
I
think
that
they'd
be
nice
to
not
not
have
cart,
storage
there
and
not
have
shelving
for
display
of
product
and
more
signage.
G
Once
again,
to
read
through
all
of
my
notes
at
this
point
would
be
a
little
redundant
because
I
think
I've
checked
off
everything
that
I
was
gonna
say
by
listening
to
the
previous
comments,
which
I'll
concur
with
every
single
one
of
I'll,
just
wrap
it
up
with
a
couple
of
summary
items
that
I
think
the
front
entrance
really
is
I.
Think
the
word
a
real
opportunity
and
lost
opportunity.
G
Don't
you
really
want
to
come
in
through
this
entrance
and
see
what
we
have
for
you
in
here
and
that's
what's
missing
right
now
it's
been
missing
even
when
it
was
a
Staples
I,
remember,
walking
in
and
feeling
depressed
just
parking
and
walking
in
the
front
entrance
of
that
building,
and
this
is
all
reminding
me
of
why
so
I
think
that
that
is
where
we
need
to
put
the
main
focus.
You
know
short
of
every
one
of
those
arched.
G
Openings
on
the
outside
of
the
building
being
filled
with
glass,
like
maybe
I,
keep
imagining
one
day
it
was
back
in
the
beginning
in
1950,
Thank,
You
Glenn
we've
got
to
do
what
we
can
with
what
we
have
within
a
reasonable
budget
and
get
you
guys
in
there
and
open
because
I
think
that's
that's
the
main
thing
we're
all
excited
about
is
a
grocery
store
downtown.
We
haven't,
we've
everybody's
always
been
talking
about
it
and
it's
gonna
be
great
to
have
you
there
so
doing
what
we
can
to
make
it.
G
H
Think
on
especially
the
Indian
Avenue
side
in
the
north
side,
where
we've
got
those
recessed,
arches
I,
think
there's
an
opportunity
possibly
to
put
a
metal,
trellis
or
a
metal
something
against
the
wall
that
we
could
have
all
yay
plants
up
on
to
so
that
those
kind
of
dead,
arches
get
filled
in
with
something
to
give
it
a
little
more
character.
I
also
think
the
colors
are
really
old-fashioned.
H
The
brown
and
the
beiges
seem
like
what
Palm
Springs
did
twenty
years
ago
and
I
think
to
freshen
this
building
up
and
give
it
a
little
more
appeal.
I
would
ask
you
to
possibly
think
of
working
in
Gray's
or
colors
that
that
respond
a
bit
more
to
the
art
and
architecture
museum,
that's
next
door
and
some
of
the
buildings
across
the
street
that
are
right
in
this
area.
H
Some
of
our
true
gems,
along
Palm,
Canyon
Drive,
so
I
think
if
we
can
get
this
building
to
not
stand
out
so
much
as
something
different
but
kind
of
relate
to
those
buildings
could
be
a
really
great
addition
to
downtown
and
I
concur
with
everybody
that
there's
some
real
missed
opportunity
to
create
a
much
more
interesting
entry,
be
it
again
with
possibly
a
trellis
that
comes
out
some
more
landscaping
wider
bays
between
the
parking.
So
you
can
do
something
with
enhanced,
paving
or
landscaping.
H
H
B
B
But
but
these
are
very
good
recommendations
and,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
think
that
all
these
opinions
that
were
given
today
are
really
doable
issues
in
which
the
project
will
improve
greatly
and
I.
Think
we
can
do
this
with
stuff
committee
and
let
them
continue
because
we
want
them
to
be
in
business.
So
there
are
many
suggestions
in
which
you
take
all
of
them
and
I
think
that
the
subcommittee
will
be
able
to
review
this
and
know
that
it's
going
in
the
right
direction.
C
Madam
chair,
if
I
could
just
jump
in
here,
we
do
have
this
item
scheduled
for
Planning
Commission
here
in
the
near
future.
So
I
would
support
the
idea
of
a
subcommittee
so
that
we
could
get
those
issues
addressed
while
we're
in
the
process
of
getting
this
prepped
for
the
Planning
Commission
I
just
want
to
comment
on
modifications
to
the
parking
lot,
because
they're,
not
adding
any
square
footage
to
the
building
they're
just
retaining
our
code,
does
not
require
them
to
modify
their
parking
lot.
C
However,
we
would
like
to
see
some
enhancements
in
the
landscape
Islands
that
they
currently
have
so
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
we
can't
require
them
to
reconfigure
their
parking
lot.
However,
your
other
suggestions
in
terms
of
thinking
of
the
entry
sequence
and
how
that's
managed
I
think
would
be
appropriate.
Just
listening
to
your
comments,
I
see
a
number
of
things
that
the
subcommittee
would
consider
number
one
is
maintaining
the
existing
storefront
in
both
of
those
bays
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
and
then
centering
the
entry
door
within
that
bay
itself.
C
Secondly,
to
rethink
the
entry
sequence
that
may
involve
moving.
Some
of
the
handicapped
spaces
over
and
the
treatment
right
there
in
front
of
the
entryway
itself
in
terms
of
the
card
storage,
the
subcommittee
would
need
to
look
at
the
screening
material
for
the
wall
in
front
of
the
card
storage
that
it
couldn't
be
just
open
metal
railing,
but
it
needs
to
be
some
type
of
a
an
opaque
wall
in
front
of
card
storage
and
then
mr.
lockers
comments
to
also
think
of
landscaping
in
front
of
that.
C
Also,
looking
at
the
site,
wide
landscaping,
member
dozy
suggested
that
the
Texas
Ranger
may
not
do
as
well
along
the
East
frontage
of
the
building
and
to
just
rethink
those
plant
materials.
So
that's
something
that
the
subcommittee
could
look
at.
Is
that
and
then
also
looking
at
the
color
scheme,
we've
had
a
couple
of
suggestions
to
use
more
cool
tones
and
to
look
at
the
colors
on
adjacent
buildings.
I
Limit
the
the
screening
to
two
structure:
I,
don't
think
I
didn't
hear
anyone
saying
that
I,
oh
yeah,
that
at
the
end
but
I
think
plant
planted
screening
would
be
fine.
Okay,
I
would
also
add,
I.
Think
the
I
liked
the
idea
of
landscaping,
the
entire
West
facade,
if
possible
and
the
east
didn't
mind
that
idea,
either
with
potentially
some
type
of
battle
work
of
some
kind
in
espalier
plants.
B
E
One
additional
calm
comment
is
we
seem
to
be
using.
The
landscape
plan
is
the
site
plan.
Yet
the
the
detail
that's
shown
on
the
building
floor
plan
is
not
transferred
over
to
the
landscape
plan
so
in.
In
other
words,
if
we're
gonna
use
the
landscape
plan
as
the
site
plan,
they
should
show
the
little
pop
outs
for
the
structure.
You
know
where
the
door
is
or
or
we
need,
a
detailed
site
plan
more
from
a
civil
engineering
or
architectural
or
both
I.
C
B
A
This
application
was
reviewed
by
the
AAC
back
in
April
of
2018,
and
at
that
time
the
project
was
recommended
for
approval
of
the
Planning
Commission,
with
some
minor
changes.
The
Planning
Commission
reviewed
the
project
on
September
12
2018
and
approved
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
mitigated
negative
declaration
for
the
construction
of
a
six
to
three
thousand
five
650
square
foot,
cannabis
cultivation
and
dispensary,
and
it
also
included
items
such
as
manufacturing
and
testing
and
other
cannabis
operations.
A
Building
number
four
remains
at
one
story
and
building
number
four
is
located
at
the
off-ramp
of
the
I-10,
which
is,
at
the
very
right
hand,
side
of
the
plan.
That's
on
the
screen.
Now
there
will
still
be
a
dispensary
which
is
thirty
six
fifty
square
feet
that
has
not
changed.
So
the
total
square
footage
will
be
one
hundred
three
thousand
six
hundred
square
feet
by
increasing
the
square
footage.
This
also
has
triggered
an
environmental
review
or
an
amendment
to
the
secret
document
that
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
A
So
I've
also
included
the
drawings
of
the
project
on
the
boards,
if
you
need
them
closer
up.
So
this
photograph
here
is
a
3d
image
of
the
new
buildings
showing
the
two,
the
two-story.
So
if
you
remember,
the
first
story
had
these
white
pop
outs
with
eyebrows
and
glazing
that
went
that
demarks
the
entrances
either
into
the
building
or
include
roll-up
doors
or
entryways
into
the
warehouse
spaces
themselves.
A
The
maximum
height
of
the
building
of
the
two-story
building
will
be
30
feet
to
the
top
of
the
roof
plate
and
then
36
feet
to
the
top
of
the
parapet.
The
30
foot
height
limit
is
within
the
zoning
code
requirement
in
the
m1
zone,
and
then
the
parapet
is
also
permitted
as
a
screening
method
of
the
rooftop
equipment.
A
So
these
are
slides
of
all
of
the
buildings
along
the
four
sides,
they're
very
similar
and
then
the
slide.
This
slide
is
building
number
four.
The
one-story
which
the
AC
had
previously
reviewed,
there's
a
material
board
that
is
being
passed
around.
That
material
board
is
the
same.
It's
consistent
and
there's
no
changes
to
what
the
AC
had
reviewed
or
the
Planning
Commission
approved.
A
So
when
your
site
and
your
staff
report,
their
architectural
review
guidelines
that
you
can
use
to
make
your
stipulated
findings
and
staff
feels
that
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
originally
approval
and
by
adding
a
second
story
it
does.
It
conforms
to
all
code
requirements.
So
that
concludes
my
report
and
the
applicant
is
here.
D
F
D
F
A
One
second,
so
the
number
of
parking
spaces
has
not
changed
from
the
original,
actually
even
rephrase
that
so
there
are
a
hundred
thirty-eight
spaces
required
they're,
providing
158
so
the
the
spaces
over
parts
based
upon
the
current
use.
If
it
were
to
change
to
another
use,
warehouse
use,
they
would
still
be
in
conformance.
So
then
the
layout
with
the
two
entrance
or
through
I'm
sorry,
the
three
entrances
off
of
Garnett
has
not
changed.
The
circulation
is,
is
the
same.
The
dumpster
locations
is
the
same
they're
just
adding
the
second
storey.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members,
is
a
board
James
Chaffee
architect.
This
project,
you
see
in
front
of
you,
is
virtually
identical
to
the
one
you
approved
a
few
months
back.
We
just
raised
everything
up,
but
the
original
building
was
24
and
30.
This
is
now
30
and
36.
It
still
has
the
same
parapet
height
around,
in
other
words
as
a
about
a
foot
and
a
half
or
so
two
feet
of
pair
of
it
at
the
low
side,
a
little
more
parapet
at
the
upper
side.
M
That's
why
the
screen
almost
disappears
when
it
hits
the
high
part
of
the
slope,
because
the
screen
is
five
or
six
feet
high
again,
the
only
big
change
with
me
to
the
elevation
we
embellished,
the
the
archway
in
front
of
the
dispensary,
and
then
we
did
also
increase
the
little
canopies
that
we
talked
about
before
made
a
little
more
prominent
and
talked
about
some
signage.
You
can
see
some
signage
ideas
there
that
similar
to
things
we've
done
before
colors
are
the
same.
M
The
proportions
are
actually
I,
think
better
I,
like
it
better,
it's
not
quite
as
squat
as
it
was
before.
We
kept
the
eyebrows.
The
same
I
just
raised
the
the
walls
up
a
little
bit.
I
think
it
looks
a
lot
better.
Actually,
the
building
four
is
is
a
one-story
building,
but
it
we
did
in
fact
raise
it
as
well.
So
it
ties
in
with
everything,
but
it
won't
have
a
second
floor
in
it,
and
that
makes
things
more
flexible
down
the
road
for
that
one
as
well.
M
Just
a
clarification
on
that
I
think
we
had
some
discussion
about
that
with
the
staff
with
Glen
and
that's
how
we
that's
how
we
rendered
it
and
that's
that's
how
we're
gonna
go
with
it
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
The
fencing
is
the
same.
The
Landscaping's
essentially
the
same
the
signage,
the
monument
sign,
all
that's
identical.
We
just
took
everything.
Just
went
like
that
to
enable
more
cannabis
uses
on
a
second
level.
M
The
second
level
isn't
the
full
size
of
the
floor
plate
again,
because
we
designed
the
second
level
to
match
the
parking
that
we
had
so
parts
of
the
buildings
will
have
still
have
a
two-story
volume
in
them
and
those
are
things
we
work
with
when
we
finish
them
up.
Sometimes
to
put
that
volume
where
the
loading
areas
are
so
we
can
get
a
bigger
vehicle
and
air
or
whatnot.
That's
that's
how
it
works.
D
M
A
E
D
A
M
M
M
To
give
you
a
new
elevation
on
that
I'm
sorry
I
thought
I
thought
that
was
done,
but
no.
A
I
A
M
B
M
Would
respectfully
say
that
we
want
to
leave
them
right
now?
We
don't
know,
what's
gonna
happen
to
building
for
building
for
down
the
road,
maybe
may
have
some
loft
space
or
office
space
in
it
I
think
we
better
keep
them
okay
right
now.
It's
not
plan
that
way
because
we're
maximizing
the
the
Cannabis
stuff-
but
we
spoke
about
this
about
an
hour
ago
and
I-
think
we
better
better,
keep
it
for
now
until
we
know
more
okay,.
M
B
D
G
B
B
I
A
A
C
C
A
number
of
items
for
you
all.
Let
me
start
first,
the
Planning
Commission
recently
appointed
a
an
ad
hoc
design
subcommittee
to
work
with
applicants
as
kind
of
a
pre
review
process
in
looking
at
the
single-family
submittal
from
Maryland
that
took
us
quite
a
few
meetings
of
both
AAC
and
Planning
Commission.
To
get
that
through
the
process
and
the
thinking
on
the
part
of
the
Planning
Commission
is
that
by
having
a
subcommittee
that
was
composed
of
both
Planning
Commission
and
AAC
members
at
the
beginning
of
the
process
that
might
help
us
help.
C
Applicants
get
through
the
process
a
little
bit
more
quickly,
and
so
what
I'm
asking
from
you
today,
madam
chair,
is,
if
you
could
appoint
two
members
to
an
ad
hoc
design
subcommittee
to
work
together
with
the
Planning
Commission
on
application
items
as
they
come
forward,
and
so
we
primarily
be
looking
to
members
of
the
committee
who
have
architectural
experience.
I
believe.
B
C
Before
it
actually
comes
to
a
public
meeting,
AAC
and
Planning
Commission
subcommittee
members
would
review
it
together
to
give
input
to
the
applicant
so
that
they
can
better
finalize
their
drawings.
If
you
will
for
consideration
by
AAC
and
Planning
Commission
with
the
idea
that
we're
trying
to
shorten
the
number
of
times
that
you
all
have
to
review
it
in.
B
D
G
C
We
might
do
is
maybe
look
at
appointing
two
members
of
the
AAC
for
a
one-year
period
and
if
we
need
to
make
replacements
along
the
way
because
of
other
commitments-
or
some
of
you
might
be
working
on
one
of
the
projects
that
we
have
coming
forward-
that
we
would
need
to
maybe
sub
out
one
of
the
AAC
members.
So
I
think.
Let's
keep
it
in
mind
that
maybe
this
would
occur
for
one
year
and
then
we
would
need
to
make
replacements.
As
we
look
at
individual
projects,
perhaps
okay.
B
C
Thank
you
very
much.
I
do
appreciate
that
and
again
we
will
let
you
know
once
we
have
a
project
coming
forward
and
work
with
your
schedules
so
that
we
can
set
those
subcommittee
meetings
up
and
again
it's
just
going
to
be
on
an
as-needed
basis.
This
is
not
a
regular
meeting
by
any
means.
Second
thing:
I
just
wanted
to
inform
you
of
is
I'm,
not
sure.
C
If
you
had
followed
the
changes
to
our
planned
development
district
process,
we
went
to
a
rather
lengthy
ad
hoc
committee
process
in
looking
at
modifications
to
our
planned
development
district
ordinance.
One
of
those
recommendations
was
to
look
at
the
order
of
architectural
Advisory
Committee
relative
to
Planning
Commission.
One
of
the
recommendations
of
the
committee
was
actually
to
consider
having
a
ac2
architectural
review
after
Planning
Commission
has
approved
the
development
standards
for
a
project.
C
Also
under
the
category
of
good
news,
we
don't
anticipating
having
a
second
AAC
meeting
this
month
because
of
the
holiday
and
so
happy
Thanksgiving
to
all
of
you,
and
we
will
see
you
on
December,
the
3rd
and
other
than
that.
The
only
other
thing
is.
We
do
have
two
of
our
members
leaving
us,
unfortunately,
which
does
create
vacancies
on
the
architectural
Advisory
Committee.
We
would
encourage
people
to
submit
their
applications
if
they
would
like
to
participate
in
the
AAC.
We
need
to
have
those
interviews
some
time
either
in
December
or
the
first
part
of
January.
C
So
if
you're
interested
in
serving
or
you
know
anyone
who's
interested
in
serving
on
AAC,
please
have
them
submit
their
applications
to
the
city
clerk
as
quickly
as
possible.
City
Council
is
admonishing
that
we
look
for
diverse
applicants,
and
so,
if
you
know
anyone
who
fits
that
category,
please
have
them
apply.
That's
it.
Thank
you.