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From YouTube: Measure J Commission | Dec 16, 2021
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City of Palm Springs Measure J Oversight Commission Meeting, held December 16th, 2021
C
E
F
F
A
A
Okay,
we
have
approval
of
the
minutes
from
our
special
meeting
from
november
17
2021.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
those.
I
move
to
approve.
I
second
it
okay.
Now
it
is
time
for
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
measure,
j
commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission.
A
E
D
D
D
Esteemed
board,
thank
you
for
giving
me
a
few
minutes
of
your
time.
I
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
a
big
pitch.
I'm
obviously
here
to
talk
about
the
plaza
theater,
I'm
thrilled,
to
tell
you
that
we're
about
halfway
to
our
goal
of
about
11
million
dollars.
We
recently
got
a
5
million
donation.
D
Why
am
I
in
front
of
you?
I
can't
imagine
a
better
use
for
measure
j
money
than
restoring
a
theater
for
a
community
venue.
It's
really
for
the
public.
My
involvement
in
it
is
that
it
stays
a
community
venue
and
it's
fully
restored
for
that
purpose.
D
I
think
most
other
things
are
in
my
application,
but
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
that
we
are
really
excited
about
the
prospect
of
finishing
this
up
and
fully
restoring
the
theater
of
the
five
million
dollars
we
recently
got.
Two
million
of
them
are
matching
funds,
so
measure
j
could
make
an
enormous
difference
in
any
dollar
that
we
get
from
the
measure.
J
fund
obviously
will
be
doubled
and
that'll.
Be
huge,
that'll,
be
enormous
for
us
and
put
us
forward
on
our
mission
and
I'm.
D
I
Good
evening,
commission
and
staff,
my
name
is
dieter
crawford
vice
president
of
the
desert,
highland
gateway
estates,
community
action
association.
My
background
is
in
public
health
and
community
health.
I
currently
work
as
a
clinical
community
health
worker
at
savas
health
and
I'm
also
on
the
parks
and
recs
commission,
but
I'm
here
tonight
representing
the
desert
highland
gateway
estates,
community
action
association.
I
I
I
It's
a
monthly
community
biking
program
that
has
been
going
strong
for
over
a
year
and
the
program
averages
50
to
100
riders.
Each
month
we've
had
pspd
out
and
participate
in
the
events.
Lieutenant
kovalov
was
out
racing
with
the
youth
and
popping
willie's
and
we
believe
a
addition
like
this
would
expand.
The
programs
and
the
facility
would
provide
a
safe
and
inclusive
environment
for
everyone.
I
So
we
want
to
create
some
more
facilities
and
programs
up
here
for
our
youth.
Once
again,
my
name
is
dieter
crawford
thanks
for
your
time
and
consideration.
J
J
Wonderful
good
evening,
commission
and
staff.
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
My
name
is
jason,
loya
deputy
fire
chief
with
the
city
here,
I
just
want
to
address
the
importance
of
the
fire
training
tower
project
that
we
have
in
the
in
the
works
here.
We've
been
working
on
this
since
2014,
as
I
think
when
we
hit
we
hit
the
budget
request
for
this
project
and
we're
really
excited
about
seeing
this
project
move
forward
and
get
completed.
J
Currently
our
means
of
training
right
now.
We
we
do
not
have
a
dedicated
local
tower
to
perform
this
type
of
training.
We
use
a
variety
of
sites
to
help
us
a
little
bit
to
tackle
these
we're
using
the
backup
fire
station
too,
to
practice,
raising
and
lowering
ground
ladders.
J
We
have
to
request
permission
from
the
airport
to
use
a
vacant
building
to
practice
hose
evolutions
inside
of
a
structure,
and
we
get
very
limited
aerial
ladder.
Training
with
that
there
are
two
training
towers
located
in
the
county.
One
is
roy
wilson
in
thousand
palms,
that
is
about
a
30
minute
drive
in
a
fire
truck
and
ben
clark
in
riverside
is
at
least
90
minute
drive.
J
The
problem
with
these
towers
is:
it
puts
our
resources
out
of
the
city,
it
creates
significant
delayed
responses,
and
not
only
that
we
have
to
reserve
time
slots
to
use
those
facilities
along
with
competing
with
cal
fire,
the
largest
fire
protection
agency
out
here,
as
well
as
compete
with
the
firefighter
recruit
academies.
So
we're
really
really
limited
on
our
options
there.
J
J
I'd
like
to
extend
my
gratitude
to
to
the
commission
for
their
commitment
on
this
project,
and
it
will
have
a
significant
positive
impact
on
emergency
services
to
our
community.
If
you
ever
have
any
questions
feel
free
to
give
give
me
a
call,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
answer.
Thank
you
for
your
time
too.
E
K
Name's
kathy
wermick
and
I
live
in
palm
springs,
I'm
just
calling
in
on
the
plaza
theater.
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
have
a
community
venue
for
musicians,
dancers,
artists,
we've
had
less
of
the
theater
the
ability
to
have
the
theater
in
town,
and
I
think
it's
it's
just
part
of
palm
springs
to
have
that
venue.
So
I
wanted
to
ask
you
to
consider
the
plaza
when
you
look
at
all
of
the
worthy
projects
before
you.
Thank
you.
So
much.
G
A
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
to
everyone
who
participated
and
gave
public
comment.
I
have
to
say,
is
it's
as
a
machine?
It's
very
actually,
I
I
it
was
encouraging
to
hear
the
public
comment.
It's
encouraging
to
see
all
the
applications
we
got
on
the
community
initiated
projects
and
and
how
many
different
people
submitted
proposals
and
and
the
diversity
of
proposals
that
are
in
there,
and
I
think
personally,
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
things
brought
to
to
my
attention
that
that
I
was
not
aware
of
before.
A
So
it's
extremely
helpful,
there's,
obviously
a
lot
more
on
the
list
than
we
can
afford
through
the
community
projects
budget,
but
I
think
it
also
gives
some
food
for
thought
for
the
general
mr
j
budget,
which
which
will
which
continues
to
to
grow
so
we'll
talk
more
when
we
get
to
that
section
of
the
of
the
agenda.
A
Two
other
quick
things
I
want
to
mention
was
that
there
are
two
open
seats
for
the
measure.
J
commission,
the
the
city
clerk
has
informed
me
that,
because
city
council
wants
to
needs
to
to
interview
al
all
city
council
needs
to
interview
each
applicant.
It
will
probably
not
happen
until
the
end
of
the
year.
I
think
there
was
also
some
question
from
the
city
manager
about
the
legality
of
subcommittees
and
according
to
the
brown
act,
so
I'm
waiting
to
hear
back
regarding
some
of
our
subcommittees
as
to
how
we
can
proceed.
A
I
had
mentioned
that
we
wanted
to
looking
for
funding,
as
we
talked
about
last
time
for
the
marketing
project.
A
A
And
lastly,
I
do
know
the
city
had
their
visioning
session
in
I
guess
it
was
november.
The
end
of
november,
we
haven't
heard
yet
on
when
city
council
will
meet
with
city
with
mr
j
commission,
either
as
a
single
liaison
or
as
an
entire
council,
and
I
am
going
to
ask
the
commission
if
I
have
been
pushing
if,
if
they
are
okay
with
me,
writing
a
letter
to
our
or
contacting
our
new
mayor
to
again
express
the
urgency
of
getting
us
on
the
schedule.
A
So
those
are
my
comments
and
we
have
commission
member
comments
at
the
end
unless
anybody
wanted
to
say
something
on
that
immediately:
nope.
Okay,
let's
go
to
the
measure
j
budget
update.
F
A
A
A
A
Yeah
I
mean
we
still
have
17
million
in
unallocated
funds
for
21
22
overall,
which
includes
the
the
community
projects
and
then
based
upon
everything,
I'm
seeing
the
the
spring
and
winter
looks
like
it
will
be
equally
as
strong,
and
so
there
may
be
more
than
that,
and
then
I
would
assume
that
the
22-23
budget
would
be
very
strong,
but
we
will
see
on
that.
G
G
I
think
all
projects
are
pretty
much.
You
know
we're
used
to
seeing
the
project
they're
the
exact
same
projects
we've
had
on
for
a
while.
I
will
go.
I
guess
each
project
discuss
them
and
discuss
and
answer
questions.
If
anyone,
I
think
the
commissioners
have
questions
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
what
we
propose
as
staff
to
bring
forward
with
our
project
or
five-year
cip.
G
For
the
first
project
that
I
have
on
the
list.
It's
a
project
for
building
restrooms
at
victoria
park
and
moon
party,
the
fun
the
the
request
is
950
000
and
that
that
number
is
actually
pretty
accurate.
We
just
awarded
a
contract
for
about
850
000
for
two
other
restrooms,
and
prices
continue
to
to
go
up
with
the
supply
chain
being
challenged.
We
are
finding
that
prices
are
still
moving
in
enough
for
trend,
so
950
thousand
dollars
is
a
good
estimate
for
purposes
of
two
new
restrooms.
G
The
next
project
down
is
the
fire
tower
training
facility,
the
one
that
chief
dwight
was
discussing
earlier,
that
one
particular
project
we've
had
on
the
books
for
a
while.
The
one
thing
of
note
here
with
that
project
is
the
prices
are
continuously
increasing.
We
have
a
an
estimate,
a
recent
estimate
that
the
project's
going
to
be
about
800,
850
000.,
so
the
measure
j
funds
that
we're
requesting
are
737
500,
with
a
couple
of
funding
for
being
provided
by
the
fire
department.
G
The
next
project
down
is
the
universal
emergency
generators
at
several
facilities,
we're
asking
for
six
hundred
thousand
the
city
water
treatment
program,
that's
to
monitor
the
waters
and
all
our
different
airbag
systems
throughout
several
of
our
facilities.
That's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
design.
G
The
next
project
down
is
the
recreation
fields
led
lighting
upgrades,
essentially
we're
moving
towards
we're.
Currently,
in
design
we
found
that
the
existing
facility,
existing
lighting
fixtures
and
the
poles
really
need
to
be
removed
and
replaced
with
new
poles,
so
we're
taking
the
time
to
reconfigure
using
more
efficient
lighting,
different
configurations
to
make
it
more
efficient
to
point
down
away
from
from
the
remaining
houses
or
any
neighbors.
G
So
it's
a
good
project
and
for
that
particular
project,
we're
asking
1.6
million
the
roundabout
at
indian
canyon,
palm
canyon
parisella,
the
the
ask
is
still
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That's
a
multi-year
funding
project
so
the
very
first
year
we're
asking
for
a
hundred
thousand
and
we'll
be
asking
for
more
as
a
as
a
new
cip's.
G
Don't
come
come
forward
with
the
city
council,
as
we
discussed
in
other
meetings,
our
annual
payment
rehabilitation
projects
this
year
we're
doing
six
million
dollars
and
our
typical
ask
is
three
million,
but
I
believe
if
we
continue
with
six
million
dollars,
it
would
be
very
prudent.
We'd
be
able
to
get
more
streets
done
faster.
So
we
had
that
discussion
previously.
So
the
ask
this
year
is
to
provide
or
to
set
aside
six
million
dollars
for
the
next
project.
Joel.
A
G
G
The
muse
dog
park,
that's
for
a
new
design,
so
the
200
000
that
we're
asking
for
is
some
matching
funds
and
when
we
get
the
grant
we'll
need
to
see
we'll
need
to
write
some
funds
for
for
that
stock.
It's
a
brand
new
dog
park,
so
we're
asking
for
200
2
000.,
so
the
total
energy
funds
being
asked
for
or
that
staff
recommends
is
10
million.
Approximately
10
million
300.
G
B
Yeah,
can
you
just
maybe
expand
since
we
do
have
some
people
watching
today's
session?
Just
elaborating
why
the
three
million
for
the
annual
payment
rehabilitation
program
needs
to
be
like
kind
of
some
of
the
thinking
around
it
needs
to
be
more
robust.
Three
million
is
still
higher
than
what
we
have
been
doing
for
most
of
our
other
city
projects.
So
just
some
context,
there
would
be
helpful.
G
Yeah,
I
can
sure
explain
that
the
city
well
I'll
start
with
saying
that
the
city
does
a
a
report
every
three
to
four
years,
a
study
of
all
the
streets
in
in
the
city.
We
do
a
payment
management
plan.
We
hired
an
independent
consultant
to
review
all
the
streets
in
the
city
and
essentially
give
them
a
score:
a
payment
index
for
payment
condition
index
score.
So
that
report
really
informs
us
of
how
or
where
our
city
streets
are
in.
You
know
in
deterioration
and
essentially
tells
us
what
our
average
score
is.
G
G
We
need
to
fix
our
streets
or
add
more
funding
to
the
streets,
so
3
million
pretty
much
allows
us
to
maintain
that
pci
average
pci
score
about
67,
but
if
we
want
to
increase
it,
the
more
money
we
spend
on
the
pavement,
the
more
the
higher
our
our
scores
get
over
time
and
I'm
talking
in
generalities
here.
But
what
I'm
really
saying
is
that
our
streets
over
the
city
are
in
several
different
states
of
deterioration.
Some
are
pretty
bad,
which
pci
scores
are
around
50
to
60.
G
Other
streets
are
in
the
middle
somewhere
around
60
to
70.,
so
we
we
generally
try
to
pick
up
the
the
lower
range
to
fix,
or
we
do
we
go.
We
start
with
the
worst
first
try
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
get
most
of
those
taken
care
of
and
right
now,
with
the
three
million
dollars,
we're
sort
of
in
the
middle
of
that
bell
curve.
If
you
will
the
pci
scores
generally
right
now
around
the
city
are
the
heavy.
G
The
the
thickest
part
of
the
curve,
or
the
widest
part,
is
in
the
50
range
and
that's
sort
of
where
we're
at
we're
stuck
right
now
and
we'll
be
there
for
a
while,
unless
we
invest
more
money
and
give
more
money
into
our
street,
so
that's
sort
of
why
we're
asking
for
the
six
million
dollars
and
there's
more
to
it.
The
city
has
an
faq
on
our
website.
So
if
any
member
of
the
general
public
wants
to
find
out
how
we
do
the
evaluations,
how
we
score
our
streets,
how
we
pay
them
and
why
we?
G
So
it's
continuous!
If
you,
if
you
fix
a
street
over
time,
the
street
starts
deteriorating
again,
so
you're,
basically
chasing
it,
the
more
money
you
spend
that
the
the
longer
it
takes
for
those
streets
to
deteriorate.
So
I
don't
have
the
information
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
you're
you're
continuously
investing
in
your
street,
so
you're
doing
two
treatments,
you're,
actually
repaving
and
you're
and
you're
doing
a
slurry
treatment.
So
the
slurry
treatment
is
the
treatment
that
you
do
on
the
higher
pci
score
streets
that
are
within
the
80
and
90
ranges.
G
So
what
that
does
it
prolongs
the
lifespan
of
those
particular
streets
that
are
brand
new?
So
when
we
pave
it
within
five
years,
we
go
back
and
do
a
slurry
and
sometimes
that
the
general
public
gets
upset
because
they
think
we're
just
basically
being
favoritism
to
those
streets
that
we
just
fixed.
But
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
prolong
the
life
span
of
those
particular
streets.
So
I
don't
in
a
long.
I
don't
really
have
an
answer
to
say
how
long
it's
going
to
take.
I
know
in
the
report.
C
Hopefully
a
brief
one
joel
with
the
fire
training
facility.
Now
this
is
a
project
that
we
previously,
as
a
commission
endorsed.
I
think
the
number
then
was
in
the
400
000
range
a
lot
of
significant,
almost
doubling
in
pricing.
That
is
what
it
is,
but
I
just
just
have
a
tagline
question
for
when
we
drill
down
further
for
this
on
the
projects
before
us-
and
maybe
deputy
chief
loya
can
separately
help
answer
this
question
not
right
now,
because
I'm
not
looking
for
quite
an
answer
right
now.
C
I'm
going
to
ask
the
question
for
a
later
discussion:
is
there
any
type
of
revenue
sharing
that's
material,
given
that
this
is
a
solution
for
us,
so
that
palm
springs
doesn't
need
to
go
elsewhere
and
incur
you
know
the
risk
of
diverting
resources
to
respond,
as
well
as
to
pay
fees
to
other
facilities?
I'd
be
curious,
as
we
look
at
this
in
a
hole
as
a
project
that
we
previously
endorsed.
Is
there
any
fresh
information
to
help
offset
some
of
that
cost
as
a
revenue
model.
G
G
G
We
we
have
bid
the
project,
we
put
it
out
to
public
bid,
we
didn't
get
responses,
so
we
then
took
other
avenues,
and
so
it's
just
kind
of
continuously
progressing
and
as
we
progress
and
prolong
it,
the
cost
keeps
on
increasing
but
yes,
opportunity
that
we
have.
We
try
to
reduce
costs
and
find
ways
to
do
value
engineering.
If
you
will
thank
you.
A
Yeah,
I
I
wanna,
I
have
one
other
question,
so
we're
already
halfway
through
the
fiscal
year.
Basically,
we
still,
we
still
can't
approve
any
of
this
until
we
get
city
council
meetings.
So
if,
if
that
takes
another
two
or
three
months,
are
all
these
still
maintained
or
the
projects
that
you
had
for
next
year?
That
you
might
want
to
that
that
increase
in
urgency,
because
you
won't
be
able
to
have
the
bandwidth
to
do
everything.
G
I
guess
if
we
the
longer
we
delay
these
projects
we'll
run
into
other
projects
for
next
year.
Yes,
and
no,
when
we
lay
out
the
five-year
cip,
we
take
that
into
account
so
we're
able
to.
Ideally
you
do
want
to
be
building
these
projects
in
the
fiscal
year,
but
we're
able
to
move
money
around
move
projects
around
priorities
around
to
be
able
to
manage
our
capital
projects.
G
It
is
important
to
get
some
of
these
projects
started,
but
you
know,
as
I
mentioned
before,
if
you're
able
to
fund
all
the
projects
we're
unable
to
physically
get
to
all
of
them
anyway,
so
we
we
are
always
trying
to
find
the
best
use
of
our
time
and
to
be
able
to
deliver
projects.
So
I
I'd
say
realistically,
if
if
we
were
able
to
start
working
on
victoria,
the
fire
tower
the
emergency
generators,
it
would
take
us
six
to
eight
months.
G
So
when
the
fiscal
year
comes
whichever
wherever
it
lands,
it's
gonna
take
us
a
while
to
really
get
off
the
ground,
and
we
also
have
projects
that
are
ongoing
today,
so
we're
always
managing
those
projects
that
we're
continuously
working
on.
So
it
just
becomes
part
of
our
process.
I
guess,
if
you
will.
G
There's
no,
not
necessarily
I
I
think
the
list
has
been
around
for
a
while,
so
emergency
generators
generally
seems
to
draw
folks's
attention,
but
we
have
over
20
plus
generators
that
that
the
city
maintains
some
of
them
are
fairly
old.
There
are
some
areas
where
we'd
like
to
provide
new
generators,
so
emergency
generators
is
sort
of
misleading,
but
all
the
projects,
I
think,
are
important
and
I
don't
really
have.
A
G
Well,
not,
unless
you
have
questions
really,
I'm
not
really.
I
presented
them.
They
are
projects
that
the
convention
center
would
like
to
do.
Those
two
projects
listed,
the
jackie
houston,
plaza
park
upgrade
and
the
retrofit
lighting
controls
are
the
ones
they
would
like
to
do
in
this
fiscal
year,
if
possible.
G
B
Yeah
one
thing
I
just
don't
see
on
here:
we
haven't
discussed
it
in
a
few
months.
Joel
david,
ready
right
before
the
pandemic
had
asked
us
to
approve
like
a
traffic
like
the
traffic
light
survey,
or
you
know
analysis,
and
it
was
to
kind
of
see
the
state
of
all
our
traffic
signals
and
see
what
could
be
connected
to
each
other
and
so
that
you
know
more
of
our
traffic
signals
spoke
with
one
another
and
then
the
pandemic
hit
and
I'm
assuming
I'm
almost
positive.
B
That
was
one
of
the
ones
that
just
got
hadn't
started.
So
it
got
stalled.
Is
there
any
momentum
or
is
that
kind
of
on
the
longer
list
or
just
any
context
run?
That
would
be
great.
So
we.
G
As
staff
have
been
continuously
working
on
our
traffic
signals,
we
have
one
project:
that's
under
construction
right
now,
which
is
hsip
cycle.
Seven
working
on
fourteen
intersections.
We're
actually
just
bid
the
second
hsip
cycle,
eight,
which
tackles
another
making
17
traffic
signals.
G
Along
with
that.
We
have
also
been
working
on
the
traffic
signalization
synchronization
of
the
entire
city,
so
that
project
is
still
ongoing.
It's
just
that
it's
sort
of
lagging
behind.
We
want
to
get
these
intersections
installed
and
up
and
running
if
you
will
and
we're
also
working
with
and
in
conjunction
with
the
coachella
valley,
association
of
governments,
who's
doing
a
traffic
signal
synchronization
project
throughout
different
corridors.
So
one
of
the
things
we've
done
is
we
see
bag
is
paying
for
certain
infrastructure
that
the
city
is
going
to
benefit
from.
B
Just
to
clarify
we're
prioritizing
right
now
the
analysis
of
certain
intersections
priority
intersections
and
the
cvag,
and
because
my
impression
before
was
there
was
going
to
be
like
a
city-wide
analysis
and
but
what
we're?
What
I'm
hearing
from
you
is
there's
kind
of
like
some
priority
areas
that
we're
going
to
work
on.
First.
G
G
Clarify
the
analysis
has
been
done.
We're
very
well
aware,
where
our
deficiencies
are
with
our
traffic
signals,
that
that
is
something
we
have
a
report
with
our
traffic
engineers.
We
have
our
analysis.
We
know
exactly
what
we
need
to
do
to
bring
our
signals
to
current
standards
and
to
synchronize
them
to
control
them.
So
we
have
that
information
already.
That
project
has
happened
and
we
do
have
it.
G
What
we
haven't
done
is
taking
that
information
created
a
capital
project
to
actually
then
implement
what
the
actual
reports
are
recommending
right,
because
what
we're
doing
is
we're
actually
stepping
back
and
looking
and
allowing
c-vac
to
come
in
with
their
regional
synchronization
projects
so
that
we
can
work
with
that
and
use
it
from
the
infrastructure
that
are
bringing
forward
along
with
the
ancient
highway
safety
improvement
projects
asians,
like
p
projects
that
are
also
being
constructed.
So
it's
dynamic
it's
moving,
but
it's
moving
at
a
turtle,
snail
space,
okay,.
G
C
Gerald
to
clarify
a
tag
along
question,
just
to
clarify
that
I
remember
the
number
was
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
study
of
the
signals
or
the
or
the
reprogramming
the
signals
put
inside
the
designation.
Could
you
clarify?
Has
that
funding
from
measure
j
then
formally
designated,
or
is
that
a
floater
that
will
come
back
to
us
when
you
need
it.
G
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
floater,
I'm
going
right
now.
You
know
I'm
sort
of
not
prepared
to
answer
the
question.
I
think
it
is
a
floater
that
we
will.
We
will
ultimately
come
back
to
measure
j4
money
to
implement
the
project
depending
on
how
much
we
can
actually
take
advantage
of
the
the
other
fundamental
forward.
A
Okay,
well
again,
I
think
we
need
to
urge
city
council
to
help
focus
on
this.
Just
before
I
move
on
it
is.
Is
I'm
going
to
ask
the
question?
I
know
we're
getting
to
comments
later,
but
since
it's
on
this-
and
some
of
these
are
urgent-
is
everyone?
A
A
Yes,
all
right!
Well,
I
will.
I
will
do
that.
Obviously,
there's
a
lot
agenda,
they're,
not
meeting
until
they're,
not
having
a
council
meeting
until
the
end
of
january,
so
and
obviously
the
holidays,
but
sometime
in
between
then
I
will.
I
will
make
sure
to
do
that
and
blind
copy
you
on
that,
so
as
not
to
okay.
Now
we
move
on
to
our
measure,
j
community,
initiated
projects
and
submittals.
A
I
had
some
comments,
but
does
anybody
else
want
to
go
comments?
First,.
B
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
thank
you
to
evelyn
so
much
for
helping
kind
of
facilitate
this
compiling
the
emailed
applications.
I
know
this
is
a
lot
of
work
and
you're
newer
in
supporting
measure
j,
and
this
is
a
newer
project,
and
so
I
just
want
to
start
the
conversation
by
really
expressing
that
gratitude.
So
thank
you.
C
Chair
bernstein,
could
I
just
a
procedural
question?
I
know
in
the
past
we
had
talked
about
a
I'll
I'll
mangle,
the
app,
but
a
google
type
survey
for
our
own
purposes
on
how
we
can
score
these
without
doing
it
all
as
a
commission
in
lifetime.
Is
that
still
a
mechanism
that
is
in
front
of
us.
A
I
think
it's
very
hard
to
do
that
without
discussion
is
my
thought,
but
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
I
mean
a
lot
of
these
are
sort
of
complicated
and
and
some
of
the
scoring
questions
we
had
on
our
application
seem
like
it
might
be
quite
difficult
to
to
really
give
the
point
system.
I
don't
know
I
mean.
B
Yeah
and
the
other
thing
I
would
I
would
say
just
to
commissioner
robin
so
the
spreadsheet
is
the
output
right
of
the
survey
like
the
survey
application
itself,
so
it
kind
of
can
go
into
a
spreadsheet
and
then,
if
we
do
want
to
have
some
type
of
scoring
mechanism
after
they're
filtered
down
or
whatever
you
know,
I
would
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
easier
to
do
that
on
a
spreadsheet
form
you
know,
or
we
can
choose
which
fields
are
going
to
be
the
most
relevant
but
kind
of.
B
If
we
do
decide
to
kind
of
get
to
a
point
where
there's
filtering
and
sorting
and
prioritization
it's
going
to
be
easiest
to
do
it
on
there.
C
I
might,
I
might
have
missed
the
obvious,
but
where
do
I
find
the
original
applications.
A
It's
still
online
or
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
some
of
them
included
it.
I
think
if
you
look
at
you,
look
at
the
it's
on.
It's
all
installed
on
the
website.
A
Well,
if
you
have
the
link
to
the
to
the
application,
some
of
them
actually
included
the
full
application
instructions
on
it
that
had
the
scoring
yeah
so,
but,
but
if
you
look
at
it,
I
just
it's
on
my
screen
now.
Is
that
some
of
them,
the
questions
were,
you
know,
does
it
make
palm
springs
a
safe
and
desirable
place,
and
and
does
it
promote
the
growth
of
tourism?
So
a
lot
of
the
applicants
actually
directly
answered
each
one
and
obviously
they
they
were.
A
You
know
all
supportive
of
their
own
projects,
and
I
think
it
might
be
hard
for
the
applicant
certainly
wouldn't
have
given
the
negative,
the
low
points,
and
that
would
be
up
to
us.
So
I
do
think
you
know.
We
also
is
on
the
original
application.
We
talked
about
having
a
certain
group
certain
of
the
the
applications
grouped
together
and
having
some
of
the
other
parties
who
are
have
more
knowledge
of
some
of
these
areas
to
present
or
have
a
discussion
with
measure
jet.
A
So
we
had
broken
it
up
initially
to
parks
projects,
public
safety,
transportation
facilities
and
having
them
each
one
at
or
more
than
one
at
a
meeting
and
go
through
all
of
them,
and
then
there's
probably
some
that
I
think
do
not
fall
into
anything.
A
So
that
would
be
a
discussion
item
and
it
seems
to
me
like
there's
a
lot
of
parks
ones.
There.
A
lot
of
parks
ones
were
submitted
by
the
parks
and
recreation
committee,
commission
and
some
others,
and
it
would
make
sense
to
to
have
them,
help
prioritize
and
discuss
it
with
us.
A
It
is
sort
of
difficult
to
tell
just
from
each
application,
which
one
might
be
more
pressing.
I
know
things
to
do
with
any
kind
of
traffic
or
safety.
I
would
like
a
staff
report
on
that,
because
that's
very
hard
for
us
to
to
judge
just
based
upon
the
application
of
those
that
some
sound
you
know
certainly
with
merit.
The
show
goes
on.
H
Yeah-
I'm
just
wondering
I
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
get
into
the
weeds
here
tonight
to
discuss
some
of
these
entries,
but
I
think
it
for
the
few
people
that
are
still
left
on
the
call,
especially
the
media.
I
think
we
should
be
clear
that
this
is
not
coming
out
of
all
of
measure.
J
funds
correct.
We
did
this
just
for
our
community
funds,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
explain
that
I'm
happy
to
yeah
so.
H
Well,
don't
know
how
accurate
I
am,
but
you
know
we're
given
a
million
dollars
out
of
let's
say
roughly
the
17
million
that
comes
in
from
this
tax
annually,
so
I
just
want
it
to
be
clear
to
the
public
that
these
projects
are
being
considered
mainly
for
that
million
dollars
that
we
spend
annually
right
now.
We
do
have,
I
believe,
two
million
dollars
to
spend,
or
maybe
more
because
we
did
not
spend
during
covid
but
the
rest
of
all
those
millions
of
dollars
that
come
in
through
measure
j.
H
We
have
kind
of
a
long
list
from
the
city
engineers
that
are
all
capital
projects
that
again
may
benefit
the
city.
Obviously
we
were
talking
about
street
paving
so
again
for
the
people
that
are
listening
street
paving
is
very
important
to
a
lot
of
residents,
and
that
takes
you
know
six
million
dollars
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
other
capital
improvement
projects
that
measure
j
over
the
years
has
paid
for
to
help
keep
our
city
running.
H
Basically,
so
I
think
it
just
needs
to
be
clear
to
that
audience
that
you
know
we
wish.
We
could
do
all
of
this,
but
we
are
looking
at
a
very
limited
amount
of
money,
although
I
think
some
projects
could
be
looked
at
by
the
city
and
again,
maybe
be
covered
by
general
fund
or
come
to
us
through
the
city
through
those
channels,
like
you
were
saying
jeffrey.
If
it's
a
safety
issue
or
something
of
that
nature,
that
would
then
maybe
come
through
staff
engineering
staff
for
something
for
us
to
consider.
H
So
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
If
you
want
to
give
some
examples
to
jeffrey
well,.
A
First
of
all,
it
is,
it
is
2
million
and
there
will
be
another
million
dollars
as
of
next
next
fiscal
year,
which
will
start
july.
So
there's
three
million,
but
I
did
want
to
say
there
is.
There
is
nothing
you
know
the.
I
know
we
have
the
five-year
capital,
the
capital
plan,
that
we
want
to
work
on,
but
there
is
nothing
to
say
that
here
there
is
a
project
within
this
list
that
is
within
merit
that
we
would
ask
the
city
to
look
at
as
part
of
the
general
fund
and
obviously.
A
Huge
list
of
things
that
need
to
be
done
in
the
city,
the
the
engineering
and
staff
may
not
be
fully
aware.
I
know
that
generally,
they
ask
all
the
other
commissions
and
departments
for
input,
but
some
of
these
you
know
just
an
example.
Something
like
you
know.
The
myself
kitchen
may
not
have
been
on
anyone's
radar
until
this
submission
and.
A
It's
1.3
million,
so
I
I
don't
think
that's
without
it,
the
the
plaza
theater,
which
you
know
we
did
discuss
two.
You
know
two
and
a
half
three
years
ago.
At
that
point
it
was
not
clear
whether
there
was
any
funding
and
and
whether
it
was
made
sense
for
us
to
be
part
of
the
first.
A
If
there's
already
commitment
for
five
that
may
be
a
different
story,
I'm
not
saying
it
is
I'm
just
saying
things
may
have
changed,
and
certainly
we
could
go
back
to
the
city.
I
mean,
and
there
are
projects
within
this
list
that
other
entities
could
complete
that
don't
necessarily
require
staff
time
and
that
that's
another
consideration.
A
I
mean,
I
think,
if
we
are,
if
our
budget,
our
revenue
continues
at
this
pace,
there
could
be
a
you
know:
a
total
of
20
million
dollars
for
21.22
and
another
20
million
for
22.23.
A
F
Yes,
it
could
be,
but
I
know
joelle
has,
you
know,
worked
on
the
five-year
capital
project
and
some
of
those
he
might
want
to
up
up
some
of
that
money.
So
let's
say
one
project
he
has
he's,
including
it
every
year
for
five
years,
so
at
the
year
end
of
year,
five
it
could
be
completed
or
built.
Is
that
correct
joel?
A
A
A
That
may
be
a
different,
a
different
situation
so
and-
and
I
also
think
that
some
of
these
you
know
some
of
these
projects,
obviously,
if,
if
it
has
to
do
with
safety
and
things
it
will
take
and
streets
it'll,
take
the
city
time
to
do
a
full
analysis.
So
it's
unlikely
that
it
would
happen
within
a
very
short
period
of
time.
A
There
any
other
commissioner
federer.
D
Well,
I
I'm
gonna
interject
yeah.
I
think
when
we
get
through
this,
we're
obviously
going
to
have
to
have
some
in
involvement
with
the
staff.
D
There's
one
in
particular
that
came
to
my
point:
it's
number
27
running
the
side
sidewalk
on
south
leho
that
we've
addressed
that
one
it's
tribal
land.
We
can't
really
do
anything
so
once
we
involve
things
that
look
like,
maybe
it
should
be
coming
from
staff
we'll
it
will
give
us
some
guidance
to
what
narrowed
down,
what
to
narrow
down.
D
L
You
go
you
want
me
to
you
can
hear
me.
I
have
a
technical
problem.
I
agree
with
you,
mr
bernstein,
having
written
the
guidelines
when
I
went
to
look
at
some
of
the
applications,
I
really
began
to
question
one
of
the
things
that
I
need
clarification.
How
are
we
all
going
to
look
at
this
when
we
talk
about
a
project
meeting
the
majority
of
citizens?
L
Many
of
our
projects
are
in
certain
communities.
They
benefit
those
areas,
not
the
whole
majority,
and
I
find
that
word
was
hard
for
me
to
score
some
of
those
projects
because
of
that
and
the
other
one
is,
does
it
create
jobs?
Well,
are
we
talking
about
bringing
new
things
in
the
city
to
hire
new
people,
or
are
we
creating
jobs
for
people
within
the
city
who
have
to
come
out
and
do
the
job
so
in
my
head?
L
L
Smaller
things
are
equally
as
important
when
we
look
at
the
whole
picture,
because
it's
community
projects-
and
I
think
we
talked
about
that
in
our
subcommittee-
trying
to
get
to
the
common
guy-
you
know
not
the
big
street
guy
but
and
they're
all
important.
I
thought
they
were
all
excellent
in
their
own
way.
So
those
are
my
comments
and
having
read
them
and
trying
to
score
them
and
haven't
been
on
the
front
end
of
creating
a
bit
of
that
document.
A
B
Yeah
and
I
think
and
thinking
around
like
the
clusters
and
the
themes
of
our
applications,
kind
of
keeping
in
mind
what
has
come
from
staff,
what
has
come
from
a
commission
versus
what
has
come
from
a
community
is
also
really
important,
and
I
don't
I
I
don't
have
a
recommendation
at
this
time.
But
in
looking
at
the
parks
and
rec,
for
instance,
chair
bernstein,
you
mentioned
that
there
was
a
lot
of
them.
B
Some
of
them
came
from
you
know,
community
members
who
have
a
very
specific
idea
as
to
what
is
needed
in
their
community
and
another.
Some
came
from
staff
and
some
came
from
the
parks
and
rec
commission,
and
so
I
do
kind
of
want
to
also
give
time
to
the
different
perspectives
that
we
have
within
the
community
about
what
they're
proposing.
B
But
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
the
input
of
staff
and
also
parks
and
rec
in
all
applications
because
they're
looking
at
it.
So
I
don't
really
kind
of
know
which
way
is
necessarily
the
best
way
to
go,
but
there's
some
type
of
fine
balance
of
kind
of
really
respecting
every
community
member's
perspective
and
also
capturing
the
insight
and
expertise
of
people
who
do
this
work
within
that
area.
So
they
can
help
us
understand
and
analyze
even
projects
that
are
relevant
to
them,
but
they
didn't
bring
them
forward.
A
Sure,
if
these
should
have
gone
directly
to
them
or
if
they
don't
have
enough
money
for
it
or
if
they
turned
it
down
for
some
reason,
so
I
I
I
would
suggest
that
the
original
plan
of
setting
up
some
of
our
meetings
to
indiv
to
specifically
discuss
certain
areas.
A
A
Yeah,
so
I
think
that
would
be
the
way
to
do
it.
So
if
we
had
a
joint
meeting,
you
know
we
could
have
the
meeting
with
with
the
arts
commission,
for
example,
and
to
discuss
you
know
the
different
ones
and
we
wouldn't
have.
The
applicants
would
also
have
the
chance
to
do
public
comment
during
during
those
specific
meetings,
so
there's
not
really
a
way
to
have
a
and
where
we
could
ask
the
applicants
to
come.
If
we
had
specific
questions
as
well,
I
think
that
that's
within
the
the
legality
check
is
on.
H
First,
I
don't
know
how
to
do
the
little
blue
hand
that
I
see
on
some
people.
So
maybe
someone
can
tell
you
where
to
press
for
that
in
the
chat,
please,
I
do
know
how
to
chat
yeah
I
just
this
list
is,
is
awesome,
I'm
glad
that
a
lot
of
people
participated
and
there's
a
lot
of
valid
need
out
there
yeah.
H
H
You
know
near
that,
and
so
as
commissioners,
we
all
graded
on
a
scale
of
maybe
one
to
five
one
being
really
important.
Five,
maybe
not
so
important
right
now,
and
we
did
that
on
her
own
and
then
basically
gave
them
to
in
this
case,
it'd
be
evelyn
and
she
would
compile
that
and
average
the
scores
and
that
kind
of
initially
weeds
some
of
this
out
and
because
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
some
commonality.
H
I
think
there's
some
guidelines
that
we
can
look
at
whether,
like
you
said,
if
monies
could
maybe
come
in
through
a
commission
on
some
of
these
ask
or
there's.
This
is
something
that
would
come
from
cvag
or
through
a
grant.
H
I
know
some
things
are
very
one
thing
was
specific
to
an
hoa,
probably
not
measure
j
material,
because
it's
an
hoa
and
or
it
could
be
coming
from
a
non-profit
organization
where
they
have
their
own
fundraising
mechanism.
That's
very
robust!
H
H
So
you
know,
safety
issues
are
always
great
park.
Issues
are
open
to
the
public,
you
know
even
the
palm,
the
palm
canyon
theater,
that
is
a
public
venue.
That
is
something
that
will
benefit
the
public,
and
so
it's
it's
that's
kind
of
where
I
look
at
this
and
I
haven't
looked
at
every
single
one
of
these
line
items
in
detail,
but
I'm
just.
H
You
know:
do
we
do
some
homework
on
our
own
and
give
ourselves
a
drop
dead
date
to
get
this
back
to
evelyn
and
because
I
don't,
I
just
don't
see
how
we're
going
to
talk
through
50,
basically
60
different
applicants
when
we'll
have
the
time
to
do
that.
A
I
I
don't
think
we
will
that's
why
I
think
they
do
have
to
be
grouped.
I
do
think
there
are
certain
ones
which
really
we
we
do
not
necessarily
fall
under.
You
know
whether
it's
an
hoa
or
whether
it's
some
of
them
were
for
were
for
actual
grants
and
grants
given
to
public,
which-
and
things
like
that-
which
I
don't
think
is.
I
know
mr
j
has
a
broad
scope
that
could
be
done,
but
I
don't
think
the
original
intent
was
to
use
it
for
things
like
prizes
to
people
so.
F
Commissioner,
marshall
had
mentioned
that
one
of
the
sidewalks
that
was
requested
is
an
indial
tribal
land
and
we
are
unable
to
do
that.
I
think
I
got
some
feedback.
Some
emails
saying
that
they're
blue
in
the
face
for
submitting
the
same
request.
F
A
I
would
suggest
I
I
would
propose
that
we
resp,
I
mean
there's
60
here,
there's
59
we're
going
to
have
mo
a
lot
of
them
will
be
covered.
If
we
do
these
individual
groupings
and
for
the
rest
of
them
we'll
either
discuss
or
I
think
anyone
else
we
should
write
out
to
them
directly
and
if
there
is
one
that
we're
just
not
allowed
to
do,
we
should
absolutely
respond.
I
think
I
don't
want
to
I
don't.
No
one
should
have
submitted
this
and
never
hear
back
anything
or
have
those
plans
to
speak.
C
Yeah
thank
thank
you,
I'm
I'll
I'll
offer
this
up.
I
was
just
assembling
guideposts
with
the
good
comments
that
have
come
through
from
others,
and
I
think
that
I
apologize
if
I'm
repeating
unnecessarily,
but
what
I
think
we
should
be
doing
is
our
homework
phase
and
then
reconvening
is
finding
a
way
to
categorize
those
that
probably
fit
well
with
our
intention
here.
C
And
then
further
there's
the
cluster
of
roads
and
safety
that
very
much
depend
on
what
city
staff
reviews
analyzes
putting
aside
the
dollar
amounts.
So
I
think
that
we
can.
We
can
find
ways
to
categorize
these
more
completely
with
the
intention
of
winnowing
to
the
community
based
versus
those
which
are
not
from
a
community
fund.
G
Just
for
the
benefit
of
the
commission,
who
we
as
engineering
took
the
list
already
and
categorized
it
trying
to
look
at
what
we
would
group
from
that.
So
I'm
going
to
kind
of
go
what
what
we
have.
We
created
a
spreadsheet
which
we
could
provide
as
well,
so
we
took
everyone's
spreadsheet
and
we
we
have
eight
facility
and
maintenance
projects,
19
parks,
wrecks
park,
recreation
and
library,
projects,
private,
non-profit,
or
grant
requests
two
public
arts
and
15
street
traffic.
Pedestrian
public
works
projects.
So
we
have
we
group
them
just
to
for
our
sake.
G
You
know
we
always
want
to
try
to
get
numbers
and
get
them
all
sorted
out.
So
we've
already
done
that
just
for
our
benefit
and
we
can
provide
that
and
a
spreadsheet
where
you
can
start
scoring
them
in
those
groups.
B
Thanks
joel
for
that,
you're,
always
ten
steps
ahead
of
us.
I
would
I
wonder
if
maybe
scoring
might
be,
we
might
get
stuck
in
like
the
criteria
to
score,
and
so
maybe
we
can
just
have.
Instead
of
scoring
projects
like
a
categorization
or
our
our
feedback
to
evelyn
could
be
possibly
around.
B
Probably
you
know
not
a
fit
may
be
worth
discussing.
Definitely,
let's
discuss
right
and
then
from
there
that
might
eliminate
10
15
of
them.
Then
I
can
which
I'm
a
call,
and
then
you
know
we'll
have
a
better
understanding
of
which
is
the
which
are
the
projects
that
definitely
are
worth
discussing
and
which
ones
you
know
depend
you
know,
depending
on
how
many
commissioners
want
to
talk
about
the
maybes.
B
It
might
give
us
a
better
sense
of
how
many
we're
really
gonna
discuss
and
eliminate
the
ones
that
just
aren't
a
fit,
but
I'm
a
little
worried
that
by
doing
scoring.
A
We're
going
to
stuck
in
the
criteria
if
I
could
suggest
that
we
go
what
we
had
discussed
in
the
beginning
and
we
schedule
specific
measure,
j
meetings
to
to
group
them
by
a
category
and
and
and
set
that
schedule
now,
and
so
that
we
can
invite
whether
it's
the
arts,
commission
and
I
think
it's
really
just
the
arts
and
and
parks
and
rec
commission.
That
really,
I
know
human
rights
did
some,
but
I
think
those
probably
the
the
valid
ones
probably
fall
under.
We
could
combine
that
with
arts.
D
A
A
What
that
commission
has
done-
and
I
think
if
we
schedule
these
and
then
we
could
have
the
one
that
are
specifically
has
to
do
with
with
streets
and
lights,
and
things
like
that,
we
could
ask
for
a
staff
report
just
on
those
so
that
we
get
their
expertise
on
it
because
we
could
again
you're
right.
We
could
rank
them
and
but
you
know
I'll,
come
back
and
say
this
is
not
50
000.
A
This
is
you
know,
500
000,
or
we
have
already
looked
at
this
and
assessed
it,
and
this
is
what
we
have
come
up
with
or
yes,
we
agree.
This
is
really
important
and
it
was
not
on
our
list
and
we
should
add
it.
So
it
could
be
any
one
of
those
and
then
we'll
have
a
better
sense
of
where
we
are
with
all
the
projects
and
what
we
could
actually
do
with
our
two
to
three
million.
A
If
we
put
some
into
next
year
and
what
we
would
actually
ask
the
city
to
add
to
the
general
fund
and
then
which
ones
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
applicants
and
say
this
is
you
know
worthy
but
not
necessarily
covered
by
measure
j.
D
A
That
make
sense
to
people,
and
then
we
have
all
the
miscellaneous
ones,
which
would
not
necessarily
be
a
commission,
but
it
could
be.
You
know
some
of
the
non-profit
ones
and
things
like
that
to
have
an
understanding
and
and
and
and
I'm
correct
that
we
could
ask
them
to
come
and
ask
questions
as
a
commission
in
a
public
forum.
Is
that
right,
nancy.
D
F
But
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
mention
that
I
did
see
on
there
there's
some
requests
for
sponsorships
and
that's
a
whole
different
process
through
the
city
clerk's
office.
So
right
away,
the
sponsorships
would
be
eliminated
and
we
would
have
to
redirect
them
to
follow
the
process
of
the
sponsorships
from
the
city.
A
Yeah,
I
think
it
might
be
beneficial
like
before
we
get
to.
We
do
the
arts,
commission,
we
have
the
public
parks
and
rec,
and
then
we
have
all
the
others,
but
before
we
wait
to
the
end,
if
those
ones
just
simply
are
not
applicable
to
measure
j
funding,
we
could
respond
to
them
directly
and-
and
let
them
know
that
you
know
there
are
other
resources
that,
but
this
is
not
a
measure
j
option,
so
I
think
that
that
would
be
I'm
not
sure
specifically.
A
F
F
What
would
what
would
fit
and
what
wouldn't
fit
and
then
and
joel
will
probably
know,
because
I
have
had
several
requests
for
the
sidewalk
near
a
school
that
if
that
is
an
indian
land,
we
could
reach
out
to
them
right
away
and
explain
to
them
that
you
know
this
does
not
qualify.
Because
of
this
reason,
and
we
could
redirect
the
sponsorship
to
the
correct
city
clerk's
office
and
they
can
explain
what
the
process
is
going
forward.
F
A
I
would
certainly
the
ones
that
don't
apply
at
all
is
to
if
we
could
respond
to
them
quickly
and
then
I
think
if
we
can
schedule
the
rest
to
be
discussion.
You
know
we're
now
we're
now
talking
january
february,
for
at
least
I
don't
think
we
can
do
more
than
one
in
a
session
and
then
especially,
if
we
start
getting
to
our
capital
one
does
that
make
sense
to
everybody.
H
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
get
sort
of
moving
on
this,
I'm
a
little
confused,
so
I
feel
like
we
need
to
put
in
some
benchmark
dates
then,
and
some
tasks
here.
So
are
we
looking
to
call
on
staff
first
to
do
some
weeding
of
this
and
weed
out
sponsorships
and
or
projects
that,
like
a
sidewalk
in
indian
land,
or
I
don't
know,
there
was
yes.
A
A
They
would
weed
out
and
notify
the
applicants
of
the
correct
process
in
which
to
do
it
or.
C
A
The
best
source,
the
best
course
of
action
and
then.
A
Schedule
you
know
we
could
set
for
the
january
and
february.
We
could
have
one
for
parks
and
rec
and
one
for
you
know,
arts
and
others
and
and
see
if
we
can't
cover
and
then
the
third
or
the
second,
a
third
one
for
the
engineering
department
to
do
give
us
the
reports
on
that.
Does
that
make
sense
to
people
that
would
be
january
february
march.
L
H
A
A
H
But
then
I
think,
if
that's
a
lot
still
on
the
list,
I
think
that's
where
I
kind
of
like
someone's
suggestion
of
maybe
a
three-tier
like
it's
definitely
worth
discussion.
It's
a
minor
discussion,
it's
not
a
fit,
and
maybe
a
lot
of
the
not
a
fits
will
already
have
fallen
off
because
those
are
the
grants
or
you
know
the
sidewalk
on
tribal
land
or
whatever,
but
or
that
we
just
individually
determine
it's
not
a
fit
for
us
at
this
time.
But.
H
F
K
A
B
The
I
think
what
we
were
struggling
with
nancy
is:
if
parks
and
rec
has
looked
at
a
project
that
is
coming
from
the
community,
and
they
have.
You
know,
worked
on
that
research
that
or
whatever
then
like
how?
How
can
we
also
like
have
the
parks
and
rec's?
You
know
insight
in
helping
shape
like
how
this
fits
into
like
the
possibilities.
I
think
that's.
I
agree.
We
want
to
be
fair,
but
then
like.
How
do
we
leverage
the
expertise
of
staff
and
commissions?
I.
A
L
A
I
think
that's
where
the
point
is
that
you
know
we.
I
I
I
mean.
I
believe
that
you
know
the
best
we
can
invite
individuals,
but
the
best
way
to
get
is
to
have
a
discussion
with
other
people
who
have
spent
a
lot
more
time
on
this
than
us.
I
certainly
think
with
the
arts.
Is
I'm
not
sure
that
these
all
have
gone
to
the
arts,
commission
or
not,
and
they
have
funding
so
that
may
be.
A
You
know
a
whole
different
category,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
have
a
meeting
where
we
can
at
least
ask
the
questions
and
they
could
explain
it,
which
would
also
help
explain
it
to
the
public
and
and
even
if
the
parks
and
rec
says
these
are
the
ten
ones
we
want.
And
then
we
don't
want
to
do
this,
one
that
an
individual
requested
there's
nothing
to
say.
We
can't
say
that
one,
the
individual
requested
we
disagree
and
think
it
should
be
there.
I
mean
it
might
be
unusual,
but
we
could
listen
robin.
C
I
I
think,
all
that's
important
that
coordination
be
really
valuable,
as
you
described
it.
The
the
reason
I
put
my
hand
up
was
to
ask,
as
I'm
taking
notes
here
january
february
march,
can
we
have
special
meetings?
Is
it
really
is
it
that
impractical,
given
just
the
volume
here
that
we're
trying
to
filter?
A
F
We
are
going
through
a
lot
of
different
changes
right
now,
we're
still
on
a
simple
system
implementation.
I
thought
we
were
going
to
do
it
and
I
don't
even
know
if
we
can
from
the
bronx.
I
thought
we
were
going
to
do
a
subcommittee
get
together
first
and
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
have
more
than
two,
because
I
have
airport
commissions
and
we
have
council
meetings,
and
so
it's
a
lot.
F
A
A
So
why
don't
we
just
because
we
only
have
about
five
minutes
left
for
this
meeting?
So
why,
in
the
interest
of
time,
why
don't
I
reach
back
to
the
city
manager
to
confirm
about
the
options
for
having
subcommittees?
A
And
we
can
get
an
answer
on
that
in
the
meantime?
Why
don't
we
schedule
the
first
one
for
our
regular
january
meeting
with
with
one
of
the
categories
so
that
you
know
we,
we
have
the
option
to
get
them
the
applications
in
advance
and
to
reach
out
and
given
that
it's
the
holidays,
you
know
we
don't
want
to
sort
of
send
it
a
week
before
and
then
you
know
if
we're
allowed
to
have
additional
special
meetings.
A
We
could
then
from
there
do
another
meeting
per
month,
and
I
think
that
might
speed
it
up
and
in
the
meantime,
what
I
would
say
if
we're
going
out.
Let's
just
say
if
we
agree
that
we're
going
to
start
with
parks
that
we
send
the
applications
out
and-
and
we
could
do
it-
you
know
and
re-review
those
as
a
group
and
sort
of
rank
them
ourselves,
so
that
at
that
meeting
we
can
at
least
go
into
it
with
some
kind
of
understanding
of
where
the
commission
stands.
A
L
It
would
be
helpful
if
we
have
joelle's
list
too.
I
would
like
to
see
these
are
the
things
that
absolutely
major
j
can't
support
if
we
had
that,
we
could
kind
of
take
that
off
of
our
list.
To
start
with,
that
would
eliminate
a
few,
and
I
think
some
of
these
are
written
and
people
didn't
really
know
where
they
should
be
asking
for
money.
It's
like
this
is
money,
ask
for
it,
and
perhaps
people
who
had
certain
wishes
should
have
gone
to
art
first
or
whatever
we're
saying
here.
L
A
Yeah
just
to
clear
that
we,
you
know
one
second,
if
we
send
something,
we
can't
discuss
this
outside
of
our
next
meeting
right.
So
if
we
decide
that
in
january,
when
I
have
parks
and
rec,
you
know,
evel,
nancy
and
joelle
can
discard
any
before
that
and
send
us
a
notice
as
to
what
they
discarded.
And
why
and
we
can.
A
I
can
talk
to
nancy
about
how
we
notify
those
people
if
there
are
other
ones
that
are
all
the
parks,
ones
would
be
grouped
and
we'd
want
to
get
that
to
the
parks
and
rec
commission
and
the
applicants
to
notify
them
of
the
meeting
in
advance
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
this,
and
then
we
could
also
review
them
as
a
group.
If
there
are
ones
that
are
out
of
our
budget,
I
don't
think
we
should
necessarily
cut
them
out
altogether
and
we
should
discuss.
A
H
Yeah,
I'm
going
to
throw
a
wrench
into
this,
I'm
going
to
make
I'm
going
to
propose
something
a
little
simpler
and
a
little
fairer.
We
have
the
city
do
their
homework.
We
they
bring
it
back
to
us
with
some
things
weeded
out
in
january
and
then
I
firmly
believe
we
anyone
can
come
and
speak
to
us.
So
in
january
the
parks
and
rec
can
come
and
speak
to
us.
Jr
can
come
back,
anyone
can
come
back
and
make
their
case.
H
We
do
our
homework
individually
to
weed
this
out
and
put
a
priority
on
everything
and,
if
parks
and
rec's
bubbles
up
to
the
surface,
that
most
of
the
park
projects
are
important
to
us,
seven
commissioners
great,
then
we
can
get
into
a
deeper
conversation
with
parks
and
rec,
keep
in
mind
guys.
We
did
this
because
we
rejected
the
past
with
how
this
commission
handled
requests
for
these
community
funds.
H
In
the
past
they
learned
a
hard
lesson
that
they
did
not
want
to
open
it
up
completely
to
the
public,
because
you
would
get
a
lot
of
different
ideas
and
instead
luck.
The
public
comments
filter
through
a
commission
or
through
1ps,
and
we
chose
to
open
it
up,
and
so
we've
got
a
list
of
60
items
and
I
think
that
we
look
at
them
all
fairly.
Obviously,
some
are
going
to
fall
off
because
they're
either
a
grant
or
they
just
don't
apply.
H
But
if
we
whittle
it
down
to
49,
then
we
need
to
look
at
all
49
and
we
individually
rate
them
and
we
can
do
a
rating
system
that
can
be
discussed
or
presented
in
january
and
then
at
that
point
and
again
everyone
can
come
and
still
make
public
comments
and
fight
for
their
cause.
But
then,
at
that
point
we'll
know
what
a
little
bit
of
a
priority
is
to
the
commissioners.
H
It
saves
a
lot
of
discussion,
we'll
see
that
we
have
commonality
and
for
commissioners
that
have
been
on
since
2018.
We
came
together
greatly.
Looking
at
the
laundry
list
from
the
engineering
staff,
we
had
a
lot
of
things
that
we
all
agreed
on,
that
we
presented
back
in
2019
and
I
think
it
was
why
it
was
a
very
successful
presentation
to
council
and
they
adopted
every
one
of
our
recommendations.
H
So
I
think
at
this
point
that
to
me
just
seems
prudent
and
then
I
think
parks
is
important
to
all
of
us.
There's
going
to
be
some
park,
things
that
we're
going
to
pick
out
of
this
that
are
going
to
be
important
to
us.
That's
when
we
can
go
back
to
the
parks
commission
and
get
in
get
a
little
down
and
dirty
as
far
as
all
right.
H
What's
what's
most
important
to
your
commission,
what
has
been
talked
about
when
you
look
at
entry
55,
there's
no
way
that
that
those
18
items
would
total
250
000,
it's
more,
like
probably
five
million
dollars
to
make.
All
of
that
happen,
and
I
think
we're
realistic
about
this.
We
know
things
cost
a
lot
more
because
things
have
to
be
engineered
and
it's
got
to
go
out
to
bid
and
some
things
might
take
a
study
that
costs
money,
and
then
we
build
it.
We
wish
it
was
cheaper.
H
We
wish
it
was
faster,
but
it's
not
so
again.
I
just
think
that
we
we
simplify
this
we're
gonna
we're
gonna.
It's
got
to
be
fair.
We
we
did
this
because
we
wanted
to
be
fair
to
the
public
and
I
think,
as
we
weed
down
on
this
and
if
parks
and
rec
or
parks,
a
lot
of,
we
find
a
lot
of
commonality
and
we're
like
wow.
We
really
love
this
park
project.
Well,
then,
we'll
we'll
definitely
want
to
have
a
deeper
dive
with
with
that
commission.
H
A
I
just
in
the
interesting
time
I
gotta
just
because
we're
gonna
start
we're
over
time
already.
I
I
think
the
only
comment
I
have
is
that
when
the
the
major
projects
are
already
funneled
by
the
city,
engineering
and
they're
presenting
them-
and
we
do
it-
and
so
my
my
view
is
that
we
don't
have
anyone
else
to
funnel
the
arts
or
the
parks
and
rec,
but
us,
but
I
I
will
go
with
what
the
commission
decides.
They
want
to
do
it.
A
H
H
I
just
feel
like,
if
we're
inviting
people
to
talk
about
something
we
haven't
even
talked
as
a
group
you
might
you
know
that
would
be
I'll
just
make
up
something,
but
you
know
inviting
someone
for
xyz
building
and
we're
like
hey.
Yes,
talk
to
us
about
your
project
and
yet
maybe
for
the
commissioners,
don't
feel
that
that's
really
important.
F
D
F
In
february,
I
think
so
I
think
if
we
get
if
joelle
and
I
get
the
list
out-
you
know
the
next
two
weeks
or
so,
and
then
you
can
rank
them
and
we'll
meet
on
them
and
and
send
them.
I
guess
you
could,
they
could
send
them
to
evelyn,
and
then
we
could.
She
could
do
like
a
master
one.
You
know,
like
four
people
chose
this.
F
Seven
people
chose
this.
One
person
chose
this
one,
then
that's
maybe
what
we
could
discuss
in
in
the
january
meeting
and
illuminate
the
ones
that
we
all
disagreed
on.
H
And
I
welcome
anyone
from
the
public,
I
mean
they.
This
is
their
their
chance.
I
mean
they
can
come
in
january
and
talk
to
us.
They
have
three
minutes
pitch
their.
You
know
pitch
their
case
and
it
gives
them
another
opportunity
to
have
us
look
at
their
their
proposal.
C
With
that,
with
that
methodology
I
would
add
not
to
overdo
a
point,
but
in
the
in
the
quote-unquote
ranking
the
ranking
can-
and
I
think
should
include
just
doesn't
fit-
doesn't
apply.