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A
A
Okay,
Oh
Pledge
of
Allegiance
Commissioner
Williams
you'd
like
to
lead
us
in
the
pledge
allegiance.
Please.
A
A
E
C
D
F
A
B
A
Stayin,
oh
okay,
all
right,
not
dissenting,
but
abstaining.
Okay,
okay,
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
measure,
J
Commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Although
the
measure
J
Commission
values
or
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
are
assigned
for
each
speaker.
Do
we
have
any
public
comments?
Oh
we
have
one.
A
G
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Stanley
bish,
oh
and
I'm,
a
homeowner
at
four
seasons
and
Palm
Springs
and
I'm,
bringing
you
some
information.
I
guess
I
spoke
with
Arianna
emailed
Arianna
regarding
an
issue
that
came
to
my
attention
regarding
the
storm
catchment
drain
system
in
the
North
Area
Palm
Springs.
G
They
weren't
going
to
extend
the
drainage
system
for
some
other
reason,
I'm
not
quite
sure
why-
and
it
seems
like
there's
a
huge
liability
issue
here
with
the
city
that
we
probably
need
to
address.
I
did
ask
our
homeowners
association
to
sin,
I.
Guess
mr.
Johnson
a
letter
regarding
this
I,
don't
know
if
he
received
it
yet
I.
G
Tried
to
get
some
information
from
the
city
engineer,
mr.
fuller,
regarding
what
engineering
was
done
prior
for
this,
because
I
assume
they're
done
some
work
done
upon
this,
and
he
came
up
with
a
figure
that,
because
it
was
too
expensive,
six
million
dollars
in
the
city
only
has
1
million
to
deal
with
drainage.
So
I
thought
I'd
bring
it
to
this
committees.
Attention
I,
don't
know
what
the
process
is
as
far
as
getting
on
the
agenda,
I
was
trying
to
get
that
with
Ariana,
so
we're
just
gonna.
Do
the
public
comment
thing
at
this
point?
G
G
You
know
at
any
place
on
that
sunrise
area
and
actually
witnessed
a
couple
of
things
happen
like
that
not
fatalities,
so
far,
I
think
it
fits.
The
mission
are
the
funding
that
the
measure
J
intent
was
for
infrastructure
and
the
North
Area
Palm
Springs
is
being
expanded.
We
have
two
more
guests,
shovel-ready
developments
that
are
going
to
be
done.
G
Excuse
me
just
getting
over
the
flu
again,
that's
really
the
only
route
for
our
area
and
most
of
the
north
area,
to
go
to
shopping.
So
it's
hard
to
get
an
alternate
route
when
that's
flooding,
so
people
tend
to
still
use
it.
Even
though
there's
letting
this
happen,
the
city
doesn't
come
and
pump
out
the
water.
Usually
it's
just
left
there
to
I,
don't
know
where
it
goes.
To
be
honest
with
you
again,
the
exact
cost
is
not
known.
G
A
Okay,
moving
right
along
first
of
all,
welcome
everybody
to
our
very
first
2018
meeting.
I'm
gonna
be
quick
because
we
have
a
lot
to
cover
today.
So
basically,
I'd
like
to
introduce
Sid,
Craig
and
David
gray
is
our
newest
commissioners
and
Sid.
Could
you
just
talk
about
two
minutes
about
yourself
and
why
you
were
interested
in
measure
J.
A
I
J
Good
afternoon,
everyone
I
would
note
the
gentleman
who
spoke
in
public
comment-
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
case,
but
I
will
get
briefed
from
Tom
and
Marcus,
and
what
we'll
do
is
we
will
communicate
back
with
him
and
when
we
come
back
to
this
meeting
next
month,
we
can
just
give
you
a
little
update
on
what
the
particulars
are
and,
if
there's
any
particular
paths
that
we
might
be
able
to
do
to
remedy
that,
so
I'll
be
happy
to
do
it.
So
if
you
could.
J
J
Well,
the
great
news
is
for
all
your
efforts
on
measure
J.
Another
little
piece
of
the
puzzle
is
happening
today
in
the
Mac
store
downtown
in
the
new
measure.
J
development
is
open.
Those
two
stores
have
opened
today
and
the
Mac
store.
So
this
very
exciting.
J
J
Also
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
one
things
I
was
talking
with
Marcus
about
the
assistant
city
manager
and
what
we're
gonna
do
is
there's
a
lot
of
public
capital
projects
out
there.
Many
of
them
are
measure
J
on
a
monthly
basis.
We're
gonna
start
sending
a
report
to
City
Council
as
a
receiving
file,
which
is
basically
going
to
be
an
update
of
where
we
are
in
those
projects.
You
know
the
fire
station
police
station
downtown
Park,
all
those
a
lot
of
the
other
projects
that
you
have.
J
J
You
can
seen
a
version
of
it
basically
for
measure
J
project,
so
I
will
make
sure
you
see
that
as
well
and
I
think
that
will
help
keep
us
all
on
track
and
then,
if
others
questions
on
any
of
them,
the
City
Council
obviously
will
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
some
questions
and
and
go
go
from
there.
Okay
and
and
finally,
I
would
just
note
that,
on
your
later
on,
your
agenda
is
discussion
on
the
buz
trolley.
We
are
hoping
to
have
well.
J
We
are
planning
on
having
that
agendized
at
the
council
meeting
first
council
meeting
in
February,
which
is
the
7th
somewhere.
Fourth
and
and
as
part
of
that
presentation,
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
couple
things
we're
going
to
be
reviewing
what
the
ridership
statistics
are
we're
going
to
be
discussing
what
some
of
the
revenue
possibilities
are.
J
Our
sponsorship
person
has
been
working
on
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
how
we
could
save
some
dollars
potentially
on
reducing
the
times
and
then
also
we're
going
to
give
council
an
opportunity
to
look
at
a
route
change
where,
instead
of
having
one
long
route,
you
have
two
routes
coming
from
the
outside
in
and
and
back
out,
and
that
has
some
benefit.
That
I
think
would
be
helpful
in
the
long
term.
That
being
said,
that
would
just
be
a
menu
of
items,
nothing
set
in
stone.
There's
no
real
recommendation.
J
J
K
You,
mr.
mr.
chairman
members,
the
Commission,
welcome
to
our
new
commissioners
glad
to
see
you
here.
You
have
before
you
the
report
that
reflects
the
activity
through
December
31st
on
page
1
of
item
3
I'll
quickly
go
through
that
take
a
little
bit
extra
time
for
the
benefit
of
our
new
commissioners.
K
So
the
way
the
measure
J
a
fund
is
accounted
for
is
all
of
the
funds
that
come
in
for
measure
J
come
into
the
general
fund,
because
measure
J
is
a
general
revenue
tax,
which
means
the
funds
can
be
used
for
absolutely
any
source
at
all.
It's
it's
really
not
legally
restricted
at
all.
However,
our
City
Council
at
the
time
of
measure
J's
passage
made
the
commitment
to
have
some
special
focus
on
how
we
spend
measure
J
funds,
with
emphasis
to
be
on
capital
projects,
but
even
so,
that's
not
limited
legally
for
capital
projects.
K
But
what
we
do
is
every
time
we
see
receive
any
payment
of
revenue
from
the
state
for
sales
taxes
which
comes
in
about
16
times
a
year.
We
transfer
to
the
penny
that
money
into
a
special
segregated
measure,
J
fund-
it's
not
restricted
in
the
sense
that
has
to
stay
there
in
the
event
of
a
fiscal
emergency
or
whatever
kind
of
crisis
arises.
K
Council
has
complete
flexibility,
move
all
of
that
money
back
to
the
general
fund.
If
they
want
to
something.
We
don't
talk
about
a
lot
but
I
think
it's
very
important
for
the
commissioners
and
understand
you
know
what
it
is
and
what
it
is
not
so
we
do
have
a
separate
fund,
and
this
reflects
all
the
activity
for
that
fund
there.
Just
a
few
projects
listed
here
on
this
page,
but
there's
about
30
other
projects
there
in
the
works
from
prior
years.
What
happens
is
once
we
have
a
budget
set
for
an
item
it
goes
from.
K
The
Commission
is
a
recommendation
to
the
council.
They
approve
it
once
we
go
through
and
actually
do
the
work
for
that
project.
If
there's
money
left
over,
it
goes
back
into
this.
This
line,
that's
basically
at
the
bottom
here
where
says
net
funds
available
for
budging
their
very
last
line,
so,
for
example,
in
2017
18.
We
currently
have
three
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
that
is
not
assigned
to
any
particular
project
at
the
very
the
very
first
number
that
you
see
there.
K
The
seven
hundred
ninety
three
thousand
is
what
was
left
over
at
the
end
of
last
year,
and
this
is
the
first
time
you're,
seeing
that
figure
I
believe
well,
actually,
no
I
think
you
have
seen
it
since
then,
you
know
unaudited
actuals,
so
that
reflects
all
of
activity.
All
of
the
projects
that
were
completed
and
closed
out
in
money
that
was
available.
K
Budgeted
but
not
spent
gets
put
back
in
this
account
once
a
project
has
been
declared
completed.
If
a
project
goes
over,
that
amount
staff
has
the
discretion
of
moving
smaller
amounts
of
money
from
that
account
into
another
account.
We
have
an
agreement
that
has
been
presented,
the
City
Council
and
based
upon
the
recommendation
of
the
Commission
that
if
a
project
significantly
goes
over
the
amount
that
was
budgeted,
then
city
should
find
other
ways
of
covering
those
costs.
K
So
from
time
to
time,
we
have
a
project
that
we'll
go
over
and
we
do
have
a
million
dollars
set
aside
in
a
different
fund.
They
can
be
used
to
help
cover
those
significant
overages.
There
are
times,
however,
where
if
a
project
looks
like
it's
going
over
and
that
early
budget
number
that
was
put
out,
there
ends
up
being
short,
such
as
for
the
police
department
remodel.
K
Then
we've
come
back
to
the
Commission
presented
the
facts
in
periodically
the
the
Commission
has
the
opportunity
to
recommend
increasing
that
budget
out
of
measure
J
funds
in
presenting
that
council,
so
that
that's
an
example
of
what
happened
with
the
police
department
remodel
project
as
part
of
the
budget
process.
He
added
an
extra
half
a
million
to
this
year's
budget
from
what
was
originally
allocated.
K
K
Yes,
and
thank
you
for
asking
that
that
allows
me
to
clarification.
He
also
knows
that
projected
revenue
number
thirteen
point,
four
million-
it's
the
second
number
at
the
top,
so
if
that's
high
or
low
that
affects
this
number
at
the
bottom.
At
this
point,
that's
our
projection,
but
these
numbers
move
quite
a
bit.
So
it's
kind
of
good
that
we
we
have
a
little
bit
of
money
still
sitting
there,
Inc
yeah
a
little
fishing
Thank,
You,
June,
30th,
yes,
and
then
the
books
actually
get
closed
on
these
projects
about
three
or
four
months
later.
L
F
L
Council
approved
a
an
agreement
where
we're
providing
a
two
million
dollar
payment
to
acquire
the
public
parking
and
part
of
that
project.
So,
on
the
north
side
of
that
project,
adjacent
to
Alejo
will
be
some
of
them
on
the
order
of
a
hundred
spaces
that
will
be
reserved
for
public
parking
purposes,
and
so
that
payment
was
an
incentive
for
that
public
parking
and
it's
doing
payable
at
the
time
the
project's
complete
and
open.
L
K
E
L
K
And
one
final
note
on
this
page:
of
course,
all
of
these
numbers
you
see
on
columns
with
2018-19
moving
forward.
These
represents
projections
of
revenue
and
commitments
which
are
not
binding
at
this
point
for
even
that
next
year.
It's
just
the
signal
that
the
council
has
given
prayer,
such
as
I'm
going
to
spend
3
million
a
year
on
streets.
That's
been
a
commitment.
Every
year
the
new
budget
year's
figures
get
adopted.
K
I
K
One
of
the
few
legal
requirements
of
the
measure-
J
ballot
language,
both
revenues
and
expenditures-
would
be
validated
by
an
audit.
At
the
time
we
were
looking
to
comply
with
this,
the
thought
was
would
be
good
to
hire
a
local
accounting
firm
to
do
that
audit.
At
the
time
we
contracted
with
merry
enough
Matson,
local,
firm,
very
respected,
and
since
measure
J's
inception
they've
been
doing
an
annual
agreed
upon
procedures
review,
which
is
not
a
full-scale
audit.
We
can't
really
call
it
an
audit
to
CPAs.
K
You
know
they're
the
only
ones
that
care
about
this
stuff.
If
it
were
an
audit,
they
would
have
to
be
reviewing
all
the
internal
controls
of
the
city.
It
would
be
a
very
expensive
kind
of
thing
it
to
just
do
that
for
the
benefit
of
measure,
J
could
cost
thirty
or
forty
thousand
dollars.
We
didn't
want
to
do
that,
especially
since
our
irregular
independent
auditors
are
always
obligated
to
to
review
those
areas
anyway,
we
didn't
want
to
pay
twice,
but
we
didn't
want
to
have
an
extra
focus
on
measure,
J
expenditures.
K
K
So,
but
we
always
wanted
the
measure
a
fund's
to
be
tested
at
a
higher
level.
So
this
is
the
standard
that
the
Maranatha
mad
Matson
auditors
used.
I
can't
tell
you
exactly
what
the
threshold
was,
but
it's
obviously
a
very
low
dollar
amount
to
be
testing
that
high
of
a
percentage
of
the
transactions.
So,
as
you'll
see
with
both
those
paragraphs,
they
know
they
have
no
no
findings
or
exceptions,
and
on
the
next
page,
you'll
note
they're.
Writing
that
bold
number
right
near
the
top
of
the
middle
column.
K
A
K
But
yeah
what
it
was
just
a
rithmetic
must
know.
It's
actually
not
an
arithmetic
mistake
it.
We
you
it's
interesting,
that
we
don't
have
a
process
for
doing
budget
adjustments
on
interfund
transfers,
but
in
order
to
get
that
dollar
amount
of
this
793
to
come
out
to
the
penny,
what
it's
supposed
to
be
I
go
ahead
for
this
report.
I
artificially
change
the
budget
amount
for
all
of
these
items,
for
example
the
interest
income.
K
We
never
budget
that
there's
always
zero
and
we
also
budget
an
exact
number
of
3.2
million
dollars
for
the
interfund
transfer
in
where
it
really
turned
out
to
be
three
million
one
hundred
eighty
six
thousand,
so
that
extra
fourteen
added
a
little
bit
of
extra
money
to
this
closing,
basically
unrestricted
balanced
number.
Hopefully,
that
helps
yeah.
A
K
M
Do
Oh
chair
and
vice-chair
and
commission
members,
and
just
because
I'm
an
engineer
for
the
new
commissioners.
One
thing
you
might
have
noticed
is
that
these
microphones
do
not
tilt
anywhere
except
for
here.
So,
if
you're
pulling
down
you're
gonna
break
it
off
at
the
step,
so
try
to
adjust
it
to
your
mouth
or
it's
not
going
to
happen
all
right.
Now
that
a
bit
of
housekeeping
is
over.
We
have
some
updates
on
the
measure
J.
The
current
measure
J
projects,
starting
with
1701,
which
is
the
citywide
Street
maintenance
that
is
currently
under
construction.
M
The
Swim
Center
replaster
construction
has
been
completed,
the
contract
hasn't
been
closed
out,
yet
we're
doing
punch
list
items
and
but
doctor
the
pool
is
open.
The
roof
replacement
is
in
construction.
The
evaluation
bolts,
the
facilities
that
one
we're
updating
the
database
on
that,
because
it
was
prepared
prior
to
all
these
message,
age,
projects
that
are
improving
the
facilities,
so
that
database
is
being
updated,
and
then
we
are
scheduling,
training
for
the
various
users
and
the
level
of
use
that
they're
going
to
get
so
that
one
is
is
ongoing.
M
The
downtown
electrical
upgrade
I
had
mentioned
before
that.
We
had
sent
the
plans
out
to
our
on-call
electrical
consultants
to
clean
them
up
and
add
some
additional
details
and
service
points
and
work
with
Edison.
That's
going.
We've
received
proposals
on
that
on
January,
30th
and
I.
Believe
Franco
would
have
some
updates
on
fire
station
and
other
measures.
Eight
projects,
the
ball
words.
N
Absolutely
to
expand
on
Tom's
list
we
have
if
you've
noticed,
we
began
with
the
sidewalk
gap
closures
so
on
racket
club
between
sunrise
de
Vista,
Chino,
on
that
south
southernly,
westerly
side
of
the
roadway
were
improving
our
sidewalks
they're,
also
on
Indian
Indian
and
Racquet
Club
I
believe
on
the
easterly
side,
we're
doing
some
sidewalk
improvements,
the
North
Palm
Canyon
crosswalk,
the
ones
that
are
located
on
Stephens
and
Els
Palma's.
Those
will
be
ramping
up.
Early
February
for
anticipated
starmobile
is
mobilizing
to
the
site
and
fire
station
four
is
currently
out
to
bid.
N
We
are
hoping
to
get
a
good
amount
of
competitive
bids
for
this
project
bids
are
scheduled
to
be
opened
and
read
out
loud,
March.
First
Thursday,
it's
a
45-day
bid,
duration,
a
little
longer
than
our
normal
30,
but
with
the
amount
of
work
and
the
complexity
of
this
project
or
hoping
to
extend
it
a
little
longer
and
get
better
bids.
N
D
M
F
B
L
Commissioner,
so
the
problem
with
moving
that
crosswalk,
where
we've
identified
it
is
there's
conflicting,
driveways
and
other
improvements,
so
I
looked
at
whether
we
could
push
it
further
south,
but
it
just
doesn't
work
because
of
the
driveway
for
the
liquor
store
or
the
bus
stop
is
and
where
the
Denny's
driveway
is
so
the
location
of
it
right
at
the
intersection
with
Els
Palmas
is
really
the
only
place.
We
can
locate
the
crosswalk,
and
you
know
it
will
happen
both
of
these
new
crosswalks
people
will
jaywalk
50
feet
from
it.
F
Mr.
chairman,
yes
I
just
wanted
to
relay
the
experience
we
had
with
street
paving
on
our
street.
I
live
on
verita,
sir,
and
we
had
signs
go
up
that
burrito,
sir,
was
going
to
be
reconstructed
between
Palm,
Canyon
and
Mirasol
the
following
week,
so
everybody
scurried
around
to
make
plans
and
change
things
and
then
the
following
week
signs
went
up
that
it
would
be
done
the
next
week,
so
it
was
delayed
a
week.
Okay,
so
the
next
week
signs
went
up.
F
It
would
be
delayed
yet
another
week,
the
third
week
they
actually
came,
but
they
only
did
even
though
they
said
they
were
gonna
do
the
whole
street.
They
only
did
half
the
street,
they
did
between
Camino,
Centro
and
Mirasol,
but
they
did
not
do
between
Camino
Centro
in
Palm,
Canyon
and
I
have
no
idea
why?
But
I
was
just
curious.
If
there's
a
way
I
could
find
out,
because
my
neighbors
are
saying:
why
did
our
street
our
part
of
the
street
not
get
paved
I.
A
H
Sure
Craig
I
just
wanted
to
say,
I
live
at
Gene
Autry
in
seven
lakes
and
construction
is
going
on
on
our
street
right
now,
which
I
have
just
saved
from
experiencing
being
on
one
PS
and
hearing
the
reports
that
have
been
given
by
given
by
Christine,
seeing
it
firsthand.
It's
really
something
to
see
how
that
machinery
is
moving
in
the
last
three
days
to
get
the
asphalt
up
the
way.
H
F
One
more
note:
I,
don't
know
who
the
contractor
is,
but
they
were
really
efficient
and
they
were
really
really
nice
as
well.
You
asked
him
a
question
and
they
would
say
well
we'll
be
finishing
that
tomorrow
you
can
drive
on
it
in
four
hours.
I
wouldn't
drive
on
it,
at
least
for
that
sort
of
thing.
So
everybody
was
pleased
and
just
only
didn't
half
the
street
I'm
just
curious.
Why?
Maybe
they
ran
out
of
money.
A
Any
other
questions:
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
old
business
5a,
which
is
a
report
from
staff
continued
report
on
unfunded
capital
and
for
the
new
commissioners.
Just
so
you
know,
there's
unfunded
capital
projects
coming
in
on
going
all
the
time
course,
so
we're
not
gonna
make
any
decisions
tonight,
and
so
tonight
we
just
like
to
use
the
8020
rule.
If
there's
a
big-ticket
item,
you
have
a
question
about
great.
Please
ask
it's
a
smaller
ticket
item.
You
can
always
call
Jeff
or
Marcus
or
Thomas
separately
and
and
talk
to
him
about
it.
L
The
gentleman
that
was
here
requesting
yeah,
which
actually
falls
under
unfunded
capital
projects,
at
least
this
is
a
request
from
from
this
gentleman
representing
for
season
four
seasons.
Right,
I
missed
his
comments,
but
I
believe
his
comments
were
related
to
funding
line
three
on
our
master
drainage
plan
and
there's
a
lot
of
the
city's
master
plan
of
drainage
that
hasn't
yet
been
implemented.
L
The
city
has
paid
for
major
drainage
improvements
through
drainage
impact
fees
that
we
collect
a
little
bit
at
a
time
with
each
building
permit.
That's
issued
there's
certain
acreage
fees
that
are
paid
to
mitigate
the
increased
runoff
of
stormwater
due
to
development
of
a
site
and
depending
on
the
size
of
the
property.
It
could
be
a
couple
hundred
dollars
to
a
couple
thousand
dollars.
So
we
don't
accumulate
a
lot
of
drainage
fees
over
time
and
I.
L
Believe
we
have
on
fund
balance
in
the
drainage
fund,
which
is
a
separate
fund,
find
her
measure
J
fund
about
a
million
dollars,
and
the
city's
top
priority
for
over
ten
years
has
been
to
construct
what's
called
line,
41,
which
is
along
East,
Palm
Canyon,
extending
from
the
end
of
extending
from
Cathedral
City
west
towards
and
along
the
Rim
Rock
shopping
center,
and
then
along
Matthew,
Drive
and
building
a
flood
control
basin.
That
whole
area
is
in
a
100-year
floodplain
and
we
have
hundreds
of
properties
that
are
required
to
have
flood
insurance.
L
This
storm
drain
line
would
is
on
our
drainage
plan
and
would
pick
up
and
intercept
the
runoff
that
flows
down
San,
Rafael
Drive
to
sunrise
way,
and
today
it
heads
south,
which
is
it's
very
flat
along
sunrise
in
that
stretch,
and
so
when
we
have
storms
that
area
often
floods-
and
that
was
the
nature
of
this
gentleman's
request.
When
sarena
park
was
proposed.
It
was
one
of
the
issues
that
I
raised
to
the
team
and
I
said
well:
hey.
L
You
have
a
storm
drain
line
on
our
master
drainage
plan
that
extends
through
your
site
and
normally,
as
with
public
streets.
They
have
to
improve
and
install
public
streets
or
major
storm
drain
lines
that
are
on
our
general
plan.
But
there
has
to
be
a
reasonable
assess,
so
they
were
subject
to
a
drainage
acreage
fee
which
I
forget
the
the
the
number.
L
L
It's
a
significant
system
and
it
would
be
a
huge
benefit
to
installing
it.
The
problem
is
it's
not
a
priority,
because
there
none
of
those
properties
in
that
part
of
the
city
are
in
a
hundred
year.
Flood
plain
and
that's
the
priority
is
installing
these
storm
drain
systems,
where
they
take
properties
out
of
a
hundred
year.
Flood
plain
the
flooding
is
a
nuisance
and
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
problems
that
that
causes.
L
So
because
of
the
shortage
of
drainage
fees.
The
only
other
option
is,
you
know,
measure
J,
general
fund,
other
funds,
and
so
that's
what
brought
this
gentleman
to
you
today
and
and
I
would
just
note.
You
know
when
we
first
identified
the
whole
list
of
potential
projects.
The
first
year
of
measure,
J
I,
actually
listed
a
whole
bunch
of
storm
drain
projects
which
were
really
big-ticket
items
because
they're
very
expensive,
given
the
type
of
construction
and
the
nature
of
the
construction.
L
L
It's
a
less
sexy
project
and
it's
one
that
we
don't
often
need
until
we
have
the
few
times
a
year
where
it
rains
and
were
inconvenienced.
For
you
know
a
couple
days
or
a
few
hours,
depending
on
the
storm
of
the
need
to
install
these
storm
drains.
So
I
don't
know
his
concerns,
but
that's
that's
the
state
of
affairs
with
our
drainage
system.
C
L
That
gets
into
the
drainage
impact
fees
in
the
process.
We
have
to
go
through
to
establish
those
fees.
You
know
the
fees
were
established
with
the
original
master
drainage
plan
and
in
the
80s,
and
then
there
were
slight
increases
over
time,
but
it's
probably
worthy
of
consideration
and
by
the
council.
The
next
time
we
do
a
development
impact
fee,
but
the
drainage
fee
is
one
of
the
larger
fees
that
owners
pay
with
their
building
permit
at
that
and
the
sewer
fee.
So
but
it's
just
these
little
small
incremental
payments
that
we
receive.
L
D
D
Just
speculating,
but
is
there
anything
that
the
the
neighbors
the
residents
at
that
end
of
sunrise,
could
do
in
advance
to
document
or
demonstrate
the
need
for
drainage
help
there?
That
might
convince
City
Council
at
some
point
to
consider
a
different
level
of
funding
or
moving
that
into
a
different
position
on
the
list
of
projects
I'm,
not
sure,
even
what
to
ask
for
I'm
just
thinking
from
a
proactive
neighborhood
position?
B
G
A
M
M
N
Keyless
entry
system
were
finalizing
the
plans
and
hopefully
go
out
to
bid
soon
and
it'd
be
great
to
have
some
funds
programmed
for
that
when
we
do
award
the
contract
and
consider
to
start
with
the
new
access
card,
readers
and
control
panels
and
so
forth,
bollards
phase
one
we
went
out
to
bid.
We
got
a
contractor
on
board
we're
executing
the
contract
and
then
shortly
just
order.
The
material,
the
Caltrans
striping
from
four
to
six
inch
I
think
that's
an
important
one.
That
would
be
number
three
if
we're
looking
at
top
five.
F
N
Dots
and
Caltrans
did
an
assessment
where
they
said
we're
removing
these
non
reflective
dots
from
our
standard
drawings
to
our
state
highways,
because
it
doesn't
help
with
nighttime
visibility.
It's
not
well
with
the
elders
and
more
so
they're
looking
a
way
to
migrate
into
what's
coming
autonomous
and
connected
vehicles
and
so
forth,
and
those
won't
work
well.
N
So
a
lot
of
agencies
in
the
Coachella
Valley
are
looking
into
adopting
that
and
applying
that
six
inch
white
stripe
to
their
local
streets
so
making
them
lighter.
You
know
again,
we
are
just
full
of
bought
dots
right
now,
which
aren't
non-compliant
anymore,
and
we
should
be
taking
small
steps
to
converting
into
stripes
and
it
would
be
best
to
get
the
six-inch
white
stripes
and.
M
C
M
M
The
way
we've
been
implementing,
it
is
again
on
all
the
maintenance
and
if
there
happens
to
be
a
section
of
street
between
two
maintenance
projects
or
the
maintenance
projects
doesn't
take
it
to
a
logical
terminus.
We
would
look
to
extend
the
striping
on
the
existing
pavement
to
that
logical,
terminus,
Fischer.
B
D
B
M
Paint
is
actually
more
reflective
than
the
non
reflective
pavement
markers
though
the
width
of
the
stripe
also
helps
with
that,
but
they
put
glass
beads
on
the
paint
and
that's
it's
I,
don't
know
if
you've
seen
any
of
the
new
striped
Road,
but
it
is
very
really
and
if
anyone
is
driven
racket
club,
where
it
makes
the
bended
ferrule,
that
finding
Lane
lines
there
is
challenging
with
our
current
striping
configuration.
Okay.
E
E
M
And
again
that
gets
back
to
the
implementation
of
the
new
striping.
If
the
city
is
doing
it
on
a
rehab
project,
it's
going
to
take
quite
some
time
to
get
the
entire
city
converted.
What
this
would
do
is
pick
up
additional
segments,
and
so
we
would
be
able
to
be
in
conformance
much
quicker.
Also,
once
we
put
the
striping
down
every
two
three
years,
it's
gonna
have
to
be
restriped,
so,
rather
than
contracting
out,
we
can
do
that
in-house
on
a
rolling
basis.
That
way
we
don't
have
to
go
out
in
one
fell
swoop.
N
So,
to
continue
on
the
list,
recap:
keyless
entry
number
one
fallers
number,
two
Caltrans
standards,
four
to
six
and
stripe
number
three.
Our
number
four
is:
if
you
go
to
item
10
emergency
generators
at
City
facilities,
I
think
that's
an
important
project
to
consider
for
the
new
fiscal
year
and
our
number
five
would
be
item
13
park,
restrooms
renovation,
repairs
at
DeMuth,
Victoria,
sunrise
and
Ruth.
Hardy
I
think
it's
important
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
upgrade
our
park.
Restrooms.
N
F
N
A
great
question
and
I
actually
looked
at
that
before
I
attended
the
meeting
the
DeMuth
88
access
phase,
two-
that
is
a
study
which
looked
at
all
the
access
to
our
restrooms
and
to
not
just
restrooms
but
facilities.
So
it
would
be.
You
know
if
there
was
a
workshop
or
a
concession,
stand,
access
to
drinking
fountains,
etc.
N
D
N
That
is
something
that
I'll
will
need
to
speak
with.
Stacy
she's,
our
director
of
maintenance
facilities
also
speak
with
our
folks
in
the
park
department
and
see
if
that
was
ever
considered,
and
if
it's
incorporated
into
the
budget
that
you
see
here.
If
not
then
I
think
those
are
great
additives
to
be
I'm.
D
M
M
A
H
F
Personal
comment:
some
years
ago
the
city
redid
the
bathrooms
at
the
Swim
Center
and
you
put
in
these
metal
toilets,
don't
have
a
toilet
seat.
They
look
like
prison
toilets.
There
must
be
something
better
we
can
put
in
out
of
the
park.
Adams
you've
seen
those
but
Govan.
Look
at
those
and
they're.
Just
not
it's
not
a
good
way
to
go.
I
mean.
F
F
A
E
A
E
I
realize
that,
but
but
there
is
community
input
on
on
some
of
this
as
I
know,
with
Caltrans,
which
is
a
priority
for
striping.
We
have
three
neighborhoods
that
were
very
vocal
about
restriping,
a
section
of
Farrell
to
make
it
a
safer
Street
into
calm
traffic.
So
so,
when
I
look
at
that,
I
guess
as
far
as
future
evaluation
I'm
just
curious.
C
Yeah
I
wanted
clarify
that
number
two.
Where
are
we
with
you
know
community
projects,
17
18,
a
million
OH
now
I
know
we
I
think
we
decided
to
go
the
first
two
years
that
will
go
into
safety
projects.
We
saved
a
lot
of
money.
Did
we
save
enough
to
actually
use
some
of
that
community
projects
back
to
Jim's?
No
I
know.
C
C
C
M
K
Mr.
chairman
I'd
like
to
ask
commissioners
a
question:
if
we
go
back
to
our
roadmap
as
we
call
it
for
the
new
commissioners,
this
is
our
proposed
calendar
for
the
year.
We
actually
address
this
item
a
meeting
ahead
of
what
our
calendar
said.
So
we'll
point
out
that
we
have
scheduled
currently
scheduled
for
February
15
to
review
the
list
of
previously
unfunded
capital
projects
that
the
March
meeting
to
finally
have
staff
present
the
finalized
list
for
capital
projects,
and
then
the
April
meeting
to
have
commissioners
vote
on
your
recommended
list.
K
A
I
You
know
I,
consider
myself
fairly
well
educated,
but
it's
a
list,
maybe
at
next
month's
meeting
at
least
the
priorities
plus,
maybe
the
five
after
that,
so
10
top
priorities
could
be
explained
a
little
bit
in
more
detail.
So
we
know
what
you're
really
talking
about,
and
you
know
I
know
what
a
bollard
is,
but
I'm
not
sure
why
phase
two
and
what
what
the
purpose
is
and
why
you
need
them
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
So
you
know:
I
know
what
a
keyless
entry
is,
but
where
is
this
going
to
be?
I
How
much
this
is
cover
I?
You
know
it's
just
it's
just
a
list
and
if
someone
were
to
ask
me
well,
what
did
you
vote
on?
I
couldn't
really
explain
what
that
was
so
I
think
we
probably
need
more
information,
not
sure
I
want
to
move
the
calendar,
but
I
would
like
to
have
a
better
description
of
what
it
is.
We're
talking
about.
A
K
Correct
and
what
what
we
for
the
benefit
of
the
commissioners,
chair
and
I
had
a
discussion
and
the
request
was
made
based
upon
the
last
meeting.
Could
you
please
take
off
the
previously
approved
items,
because
those
were
confusing
to
still
have
on
the
list,
and
since
we
were
doing
that
adjustment,
the
question
was
asked.
Well.
Are
there
any
other
items
that
you
know
about
you'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
add
the
list
and
that's
how
these
other
end
items
ended
up
being
here
and
we
ended
up
being
actually
a
little
bit
ahead
of
schedule.
A
K
Looking
at
it,
Thanks
I
think
my
recommendation
would
be.
We
could
just
continue
this
item
to
the
next
meeting.
If
staff
would
have
an
opportunity
to
expand
their
descriptions,
what
we
used
to
have
for
the
benefit
of
Tom
is
we
used
to
have
a
one-page
description
of
the
project
and
there
was
a
form
that
was
used
in
the
past
I.
Don't
know
if
that
even
makes
sense
anymore,
but
it
sounds
like.
B
M
K
M
I
Yeah,
you
know
I'm
not
asking
for
a
lot
I'm.
Just
asking
for
you
know,
like
a
paragraph
Commissioner
vixen
asked
you
a
question
and
you
said
well,
I,
don't
know
what
that
is.
So
you
know
I
think
anything.
That's
on
the
list.
We
should
at
least
have
a
paragraph.
Descriptor
is
what
it
is
where
it
is
time
frame.
What's
the
you
know,
why
is
it
necessary?
Is
this?
You
know
the
mandated
one.
I
A
M
F
A
E
K
K
E
K
K
I
The
other
thing
that
you
know
sort
of
back
sort
of
with
what
you're
saying
I
mean
a
lot
of
these
projects.
Don't
happen
over
one
fiscal
year,
so
you
know
you
you
can,
let's
take.
Let's
take
them.
I'll
go
with
the
Plaza
theater
it's
on
this
list,
okay,
so
five
million
dollar
project.
Well,
that's
not
gonna
happen
in
twelve
months.
I
had
you
know,
no
project
happens
in
twelve
months,
so
one
of
the
things
that
sort
of
also
is
missing
is
the
how
long
that
takes.
I
So
if
a
project
is
going
to
take
18
months,
24
months,
that's
a
two-year
project
and
we
could
allocate
some
money
in
one
year,
but
then
some
money
in
the
next
year,
and
so
we
it
it.
If
you
it's
kind
of
like
saying
well,
you
have
to
have
the
whole
thing
in
one
year.
That's
kind
of
not
how
I
know
the
city
works
and
I
know
how
the
library's
funds
work
and
all
that
record,
that's
not
how
it
works.
So
it
doesn't
work
that
way.
I
What
what
really
happens
is
you
have
it
in
a
budget,
but
it
may
not
actually
come
out
that
year
and
if
we
have
to
actually
spend
the
money,
which
is
what
I
understand
we
ampere
supposed
to
try
to
do
and
not
to
carry
lots
of
money
over
every
year,
then
I
think
it
would
also
be
helpful
in
our
description
to
know
that
this
is
an
18-month
project.
This
is
a
estimated
two-year
project.
This
is
a
three-year
project.
I
I,
don't
know
you
know
or
yes,
we're,
gonna
buy
a
truck,
and
obviously
that's
done
with,
but
some
of
these
things
on
here
I'm
a
little
unclear
as
to
you
know,
phase
one
might
be
the
correct
thing
to
do.
For
one
year,
Phase
two
could
be
the
next
year.
Phase
three
could
be
the
thing
you're
following.
So
that's
kind
of
a
little
bit
more
information
that
I
think
we
could
make
some
better
judgments
because
we
might
be
able
to
get
more
than
five
things,
because
we
don't
need
to
take
the
total
cost
here.
I
We
only
need
to
take
the
cost
for
that
particular
this
first
particular
year.
Obviously,
it
commits
us
to
the
into
the
next
year
but
I'm
as
a
commissioner,
not
as
concerned
about
that
I
am
concerned
with
getting
projects
on
the
drawing
table
and
moving
them
along,
but
we
all
know
that
many
of
these
projects-
you
know
you,
vote
on
them
and
they
just
actually
don't
get
happen
until
that
next
fiscal
year
and
it
just
takes.
K
We
did
that
we
presented
it
and
made
recommendations.
We
went
ahead
and
laid
it
out
like
we
do
on
this
other
page
saying:
let's,
let's
look
at
this
amount.
In
year,
1
year
2
year
3
there
have
been
several
projects
that
have
been
budgeted
or
earmarked
for
those
future
years
in
that
that
same
manner,.
D
Listening
to
the
conversation
it
it
is,
the
the
evolution
of
a
project
is
just
that:
an
evolution.
You
don't
just
decide
on
Saturday
morning,
you're
gonna
do
XY
and
Z
run
to
Home
Depot
pick
up
the
supplies
come
home
and
do
it
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
see
that
evolution
and
you
know
picking
a
project
like
the
the
bollards
and
what's
involved,
what
does
that
project
go
through
before
it
actually
is
implemented?
D
And
that
then
helps
us
understand
how
long
it
takes
to
when
we
have
to
allocate
the
money
for
it
and
how
long
it
has
to
be
allocated
for,
because
it's
a
long
process
to
get
from
concept
to
completion?
Is
that
something
that
and
it
you
know
it
would
have
to
be
an
example,
because
most
projects
are
different
and
require
different
time
frames.
But
it
would
be
helpful
just
to
see
that
you
know
before
we
do
sidewalks.
D
M
I
may
there's
also,
what
might
be
helpful
is
how
some
of
these
projects
tie
to
existing
projects
that
are
either
being
built
or
in
design
or
being
constructed
by
the
private
sector.
The
bollards
is
a
great
great
example
where
that
ties
into
a
previous
project
that
we're
doing
and
a
project
that
is
being
done
by
the
private
developer,
and
this
would
just
be
an
extension
of
that
that
street
safety
program,
but
there
are
other
sidewalk
gap
closures.
All
these.
A
M
G
A
A
N
So
I
think
what
we'll
do
is
next
month
will
include
it
that
dollar
amount
may
change,
because
we've
been
successful
with
sivak.
We
one
of
our
projects
is
the
Indian
corridor,
pet
enhancement,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
trying
to
see
what
type
of
improvements
would
benefit.
Pedestrian
safety
and
one
item
I
mean
based
just
my
opinion,
as
a
traffic
engineer
is
converting
a
one-way
to
the
two-way
one-way
streets.
N
You
get
a
lot
of
high
traffic
speeds
when
you
reduce
it,
when
you
change
it
to
a
to
a
conversion,
it
slows
down
the
speeds,
so
we're
gonna
be
working
with
our
design
consultant
next
week
to
actually
coming
in,
to
give
us
a
presentation
on
where
they're,
at
with
the
design
for
the
pet
enhancements
on
Indian
pet
enhancements
on
Palm
Canyon
and
the
South
East
pump
Canyon
curve
and
we're
hoping
to
get.
You
know
some
of
the
things
that
we've
identified
in
the
two
ways,
such
as
ball
belts.
You
know,
that's
another
pet
improvement.
N
A
D
It
possible
to
separate
out
the
cost
of
the
roundabouts
on
in
that
project,
so
that
we
can
see
what
the
roundabout
costs
separate
from
the
actual
roadway
costs.
I'm
thinking
that
some
people
might
even
consider
something
like
that,
a
park
a
mini
park,
not
that
we
would
go
out
into
it,
but
something.
M
F
I
Think
the
reason
they
asked
us
to
do
that
Excel,
you
know
they
were
they
didn't
want
to
describe
all
of
these.
They
wanted
to
describe
ten
I.
So
that's
how
we
got
to
that
extra
five,
but
it
I,
don't
think
and
I
know.
There's
20
numbers
on
here.
I!
Don't
think
that
we
need
a
lot
of
description
on
a
lot
of
them,
but
you
know
could
be
just
a
sheet
with
three
or
four
sentences
under
each
one
or
something-
and
you
know,
maybe
we
can
just
bring
the
whole
list
back.
I
I
I,
don't
see
us
needing
to
sorted
out
at
that
point
because
I
personally
wouldn't
know
how
to
send
you,
my
next,
because
I
don't
really
know
anything
about
them
as
you're
saying
to
so,
but
I
don't
want
you
to
spend
a
lot
of
time.
You
know
going
page
after
page
after
page
up
a
descriptor,
either
I
think
we
just
need
a
little
bit
more
information.
That's
all,
but.
A
F
A
A
M
M
E
E
You
know
maybe
something
of
the
necessity
of
that
and
then
also
I,
think-
and
this
will
be
part
of
our
discussion
as
a
commission.
Does
this
really
get
funded
by
measure
J
and
I
realize
measure?
J
is
a
little
cloudy.
It
can
go
to
city
services,
but
shouldn't
that
be
something
that's
under
general
fund,
because
its
maintenance
and
upkeep
and
it's
something
we
know
is
going
to
happen.
If
measure
J
didn't
exist,
that
coil
would
have
to
somehow
get
paid
for
otherwise
City
Hall
goes
black
well.
K
I'll
just
mention
that,
as
the
city
manager
has
said
several
times
in
the
last
several
years,
except
for
the
airport,
the
and
the
wastewater
treatment
plan,
the
measure
J
fund
has
basically
become
our
capital
program
so
well
and
measure
a
of
course.
But
I
understand
your
your
point,
but
we
typically
have
not
funded
any
capital
out
of
the
general
fund,
not
to
say
that
we
can't.
But
it's
been
pretty
much
spoken
for
in
every
other
area.
K
We
have
done
some
urine
transfers
to
capital
funds
where
we've
had
special
needs
and
we've
had
some
extra
funds
that
appear
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
we
close
out
the
books
we've
done
that
before
too,
but
for
for
major
projects.
There
just
isn't
enough
capacity
in
the
general
fund
to
do
these
projects.
E
Some
type
of
a
date
of
when
that's
needed,
you
know,
obviously
the
coils
have
gotten
brought
up
by
someone
and
that
this
has
been
identified
by
the
facilities
group
that
this
has
got
to
get
replaced
at
some
point,
so
there'd
be
helpful,
just
to
know
yeah.
This
has
to
be
done
by
2020
or
we're
in
serious
dire.
You
know
a
roofing
project
has
to
be
done
by
such
a
day,
because
if
we
don't
do
it,
it's
gonna
cave
in
and
then
it's
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
project
is
now
a
million
dollar
project.
So.
A
A
Okay.
The
next
item
is
discussion.
Continued
on
funding
of
the
buz
trolley
go
ahead.
I
was
going
to
tell
what
what
it
is
is
actually
not
we're
not
saying
whether
it
should
be
funded.
The
City
Council
will
determine
that.
What
we're
gonna
discuss
today
is
whether
it's
appropriate
that
measure
J
is
funding
it.
That's
the
discussion.
We're
gonna
have
so
it's
up
to
the
City
Council,
whether
they
want
to
continue
to
fund
it,
but
if
they
make
decision
to
continue
to
fund
it,
should
it
be
out
of
measure
J
and.
D
I
was
just
gonna
say,
given
the
information
that
David
Reddy
shared
with
us
about
council
studying
this
and
discussing
it
in
February
I
was
wondering
if
we
would
want
to
defer
this
until
we
had
more
information
on
the
ridership
revenue
possibilities,
how
to
save
dollars
and
route
changes.
So
I
was
just
gonna
suggest
to
bring
it
to
the
to
the
next
meeting.
I.
A
Would
I
would
agree
with
that
if
we
were
to
sign
whether
we
were
gonna
fund
it
or
not,
but
where
the
discussion
really
is
is:
is
it
appropriate
that
is
coming
from
measure,
J
and
so
I
totally
agree?
I
think
we
could
discuss
it
and
I
actually
have
a
hope,
Thomas
you're,
not
leaving,
because
I
have
a
question
for
you
here
going.
A
When
we
talk
about
infrastructure
right,
which
is
what
measure
J
is
all
about,
I
did
a
little
homework
and
there's
this
category
that
you
know
about.
But
it's
new
to
me
is
Public
Works
infrastructure,
and
so
when
this
was,
it
was
the
original
intention
to
include
Public
Works
infrastructure,
or
we
just
talking
about
bridges
and
roads
because
doing
a
little
homework.
A
They
have
this
category
called
mass
transit
under
Public,
Works
infrastructure,
and
it
basically
I
won't
read
it
all
here
unless
everybody
wants
to
hear
it,
but
it
describes
the
buzz
basically
and
so
we're
previously
doing
this
I'd
kind
of
question
whether
the
bus
should
be
if
it
if
public
works
infrastructure
does
fall
under
our
venue,
then
I
think
there's
an
argument
that
the
bus
should
be
funded
through
measure
J,
and
so
that's
why
it
would
be
helpful
it.
You
can
answer
that.
M
A
F
F
A
F
I
suggested
considering
what
we
spend
other
money
on.
It's
it's
equally
appropriate
to
spit
it
on
something.
Considering
that
a
lot
of
measure
J
dollars
come
from
spending
by
tourists
and
tourists,
the
ones
that
use
the
bugs
and
a
lot
of
local
people
use
the
buzz
as
well
I
think
it's
equally
appropriate.
It's
not
a
decision
about
whether
we
can
fund
it
and
afford
it.
F
F
B
And
there
is
a
lot
of
good
feeling
about
the
buzz
and
we
are
always
talking
about
having
something
tangible
to
point
at
that
measure.
J
finances
and
the
buzz
is
of
really
cheerful,
and
you
know
whether
whether
it's
used
as
much
as
we
would
hope-
maybe
not,
but
it
is
used
and
people
enjoy,
seeing
it
go
from
one
neighborhood
to
another.
C
Go
along
with
John
I
remember:
we
actually
did
have
a
subcommittee
that
looked
this
and
yes
you're
right
this
council,
pretty
much
decided.
We
were
gonna
fund
it
before
we
got
to
the
head
phase,
but
I
do
recall.
There's
at
that
point
of
the
commissioners.
I
think
majority
in
support
of
it
and
as
she
said,
I
mean
it
we
got
about.
Eighty
percent
of
our
revenue
is
probably
coming
from
out.
You
know
from
our
tourists.
What
are
we
giving
them
in
return
and
you're?
C
I
Yeah
I
guess
I
sort
of
hear
where
you're
coming
from,
but
I
also
heard
mr.
keel
and
I've
heard
mr.
Eddie
and
I
already
know
sort
of
that.
City
Council
can
decide
they're
gonna,
take
it
out
of
measure
J,
whether
you
think
it's
appropriate,
not
probably
so
that
is
accurate.
So
therefore
I'm
not
sure,
that's
a
discussion
that
we
need
to
make.
I
I
think
that
what
I
would
want
to
do
is
to
wait
for
some
reports
that
are
gonna
come
back
and
I
also
would
then
like
to
say
that
maybe
we
would
fund
it
X
amount,
and
we
would
ask
that
tourism
Quixote,
funded
X
amount
and
maybe
something
else
X
amount
so
that
it's
not
all
funded
by
mr.
Chae,
but
that
we
would
be
a
participant.
E
Yeah
I
second
David
on
that
I
think
I.
Think
initially
they
needed
to
get
this
funded
and
measure.
J
was
the
quick
and
easy
pot
to
dip
into
and
I
think
it
is
the
belief
of
a
lot
of
the
new
council
members
that
there
there
should
be
other
revenue
sources
to
support
the
buzz,
and
it
may
partially
still
be
measure
J
and
that's
fine,
but
I
think
we're
all
looking
kind
of
in
a
creative
way
of
there's
other
parties.
That
can
come
to
the
party
too,
so
to
speak
and
contribute.
H
Agree
with
what
you're
saying
I
remember
that
Commission
councilman
Roberts
had
been
advocating
more
of
the
private
sector
coming
up
with
money,
and
they
had
some
success
with
the
last
festival
of
lights.
Parade.
So
I
think
that
the
city
needs
to
look
at
that
more
as
well
and
see
about
other
funding,
and
just
not
all
out
of
here.
B
A
I
think
we
have
two
things
going
on
here.
We
have
one
which
we're
gonna
hold
off
until
the
next
meeting.
When
we
have
more
information
and
then
the
other
is
yes,
we
should
be
doing
the
buzz,
which
is
fine,
I'm,
not
here,
to
decide
one
way
or
the
other.
So
could
we
just
kind
of
make
a
decision
on
what
we
need
to
guide
staff?
Okay,
I'm.
C
C
H
A
F
C
N
D
D
Having
the
information
to
make
a
decision
or
making
a
decision
without
the
information
when
it
may
come
back
as
supporting
itself
or
they
may
come
back
with
recommendation
for
how
to
support
it,
how
it
can
support
itself
without
full
funding
for
measure
J
and,
frankly,
that
could
change
my
feelings
about
supporting
the
buzz
and
without
having
that
information.
I
would
just
say
no
I,
don't
support
the
buzz
I'd
like
to
see
a
funding
coming
from
other
resources,
so
I,
all
I'm
saying
is:
let's
get
the
information
before
I
make
a
stupid
decision.
D
You
know
and
I
hope
that
it
that
they
come
back
and
say
we
know
how
to
support
it
that
isn't
totally
through
measure
J
with
a
loss
of
money.
Every
time
it's
used,
so
I
would
love
to
have
that
happen,
but
right
now,
I
don't
have
that
information.
So
I
can't
really
make
an
informed
decision.
I
can't
I,
don't
have
the
information
to
do
that.
A
Could
we
amend
the
motion
to
I'm
just
kind
of
thinking
out
loud
and
out
here,
so
bear
with
me
a
little
bit
and
say
that,
yes,
we
had
this
discussion
and
measure.
J
Commission
is
supportive
of
the
buzz
to
be
funded
partially
by
measure
J,
but
don't
feel
that
they
should
bear
the
whole
amount.
However,
we
also
need
more
information
before
we
could
make
a
final
decision
on
the
buzz
from
measure
J
Stanley,
probably.
A
K
C
A
Ok,
we're
moving
right
along
ok,
good
discussion
on
reducing
the
number
of
metrojet
commissioners
from
9
to
7,
effectively
July
1
2018.
This
has
been
bantered
around
since
I've,
been
on
the
Commission
and
so
I
thought
we
should
just
make
it
an
agenda
item
and
discuss
it
and
make
a
decision
one
way
or
the
other.
Yes,
I.
D
K
Know
the
way
the
ballot
was,
there
was
just
that
there
would
be
citizens
oversight
and
then,
when
the
when
the
council
set
up
the
Commission,
they
decided
on
a
9
member
commission
with
two
alternates
might
recall.
And
after
a
number
of
years
the
two
alternates
was
was
dropped
and
that's
where
we're
at
today.
A
A
E
If
we
were
to
vote
on
seven-
and
let's
say
we
had
nine
people
that
want
it
to
be,
can
we
increase?
So
you
say
it's
a
seven
person
Commission,
but
we
have
that's.
For
example,
this
summer
will
need
two
new
members.
Four
members
come
forward
and
they're
all
very
qualified
and
and
excited
to
be
a
part
of
the
Commission.
Could
we
then
go
to
the
nine,
even
though
we
can
be
at
a
minimum,
a
minimum
of
seven.
F
A
K
I
think
to
answer
your
question
directly,
so
you
can
always
have
fewer,
but
you
can't
arbitrarily
add
without
having
it
formally
approved
by
the
council.
So
we,
if
they,
if
they
held
interview,
for
example,
we
have
a
few
members.
There
will
be
having
turned
out
this
June
thirtieth,
and
if
we
had
you
know
a
dozen
people
apply
and
there
was
enthusiasm.
Well,
we
like
several
of
them.
They
hadn't
previously
taken
action
to
increase
the
maximum
number
size
of
the
Commission.
K
I
A
F
A
A
Okay,
we
still
might
make
six
appoint
to
members
to
the
new
downtown
park,
ad
hoc
committee,
and
so
I
should
probably
the
easiest
way
to
address.
This
is
see
who
would
volunteer?
Who
would
like
to
be
on
this
committee?
I
know
we
have
some
people
that
are
already
on
committees.
They
probably
want
to
be
on
to
SIDS
already
got
his
handle,
which
doesn't
surprise
me
since
she
comes
from
Parks
and
Rec.
But
yes,
who
who
would
like
to
volunteer
I,
would.
F
I
A
I
A
A
A
Stay:
okay,
that's
what
I
was
about
to
say.
Okay,
so
Commissioner
gray
will
move
to
the
communications
committee.
Commission
subcommittee,
working
with
with
you
and
Commissioner
Williams,
then
Commissioner
Kazan
will
be
on
the
downtown
part
along
with
commissioner
Craig
in
this
mark.
You
wanted
to
be
on
this.
What.
F
A
D
F
Yes,
on
that
subject,
we
need
to
have
a
meeting
with
the
Communications
Committee
and
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
medallions
of
measures
a
project
but
I'd
like
to
ask
the
other
commissioners
have
some
for
their
other
subjects.
I
remember
we
talked
about
the
rollout
of
the
movie,
which
I,
don't
think
has
come
out
yet
I
said
I
haven't
seen
it
on
channel
17,
the
film
that
was
shown
it.
F
The
video
good
video
resume
channel,
17
yeah
I
saw
it
on
there,
okay,
but
perhaps
how
we
could
get
that
out
to
the
public,
somehow
maybe
have
it
shown
at
various
organizations.
This
is
all
the
committee
type
of
stuff,
but
I'd,
like
for
our
committee,
to
meet
before
the
next
mini
meeting
and
then
back
to
the
larger
group.
That'd
be
great.
Okay,
now,
terrific,
fine,
okay!