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From YouTube: Planning Commission | Mar 23 2022
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City of Palm Springs Planning Commission meeting, held March 23rd, 2022
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Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes.
Testimony
for
public
hearing
may
be
offered
at
this
time
or
the
time
of
the
hearing.
Members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
comment
on
agenda
item
1a
are
directed
to
come
in
under
this
portion
of
the
agenda.
Is
there
a
mem,
a
member
of
the?
Can
you
open
the
public
hearing
and
is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
comment.
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Okay,
my
applicant
pretty
faces
is
proposing
a
nightclub
inside
an
existing
hotel
business,
a
hotel
zozo,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
yellow
outline.
That
is
where
the
nightclub
will
be
proposed.
It
is
surrounded
by
development
well
within
the
downtown
area,
and
I
did
want
to
point
out.
The
nearest
apartment
residential
units
are
going
to
be
highlighted
in
this
red
square
down
below.
I
believe
it's
apartment,
33.
H
So
the
proposed
use
is
going
to
be
a
rough.
Sorry
ignore
the
restaurant
part,
a
nightclub
cocktail,
lounge
and
bar
these
types
of
uses
are
permitted
in
the
central
business
district
with
the
approval
of
a
cup.
You
can
see
from
the
illustration
on
the
right
that
the
nightclub
is
entirely
internal
to
the
hotel.
The
reason
they
are
applying
for
the
conditional
use
permit
is
because
they
are
not
going
to
be
part
of
the
hotel
any
longer,
so
this
area
was
used
as
a
nightclub.
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H
So
this
nightclub
and
lounge
has
an
occupancy
for
258
people.
They
have
their
type
48
abc
liquor
license
and
have
made
themselves
available
primarily
to
hotel
guests,
but
of
course
they
are
open
to
the
public
as
well.
They
are
proposing
live
entertainment
such
as
drag
shows
or
karaoke
for
bachelorette
parties.
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H
Here's
a
photo
of
their
security
plan.
The
yellow
guys
are
the
security
guards
trained
security
guards
and
we've
got
photos
of
where
the
cameras
will
be
located
throughout
the
property
that
11th
camera
is
going
to
be
placed
somewhere
here
in
the
middle
of
the
dance
floor
to
have
a
360
view
of
this
entire
area.
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They
are
working
with
the
police
department
to
put
together
a
security
plan
which
will
need
to
be
approved
prior
to
them.
Operating
we've
met
with
sergeant,
frank
and
we've
walked
to
the
site,
talked
about
soft
training,
security
guards
and
surveillance.
So
I
did
want
to
emphasize
that
guests
will
not
be
gathering
within
the
parking
lot.
There
is
no
parking
lot.
That's
available
to
to
these
guests.
It's
all
valet,
the
depart.
H
These
are
some
photos
of
the
front
entrance.
You
can
see
well
behind
this
bowl,
the
front
door
that
all
guests
would
walk
through
and
be
screened
at
front
lobby
with
the
host
stan
and,
as
you
turn
the
corner
to
the
right.
You've
got
this
aisle
walking
directly
into
the
bar,
it's
pretty
open
and
then,
if
you
do
a
180
turn,
you've
got
access
to
the
entire
dance,
dance
floor
and
vip
seats.
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A
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
they
they're
not
as
much
about
the
club,
but
we've
just
had
two
gun
gun
shootings
right
near
that
on
arenas
and
indian
canyon.
We've
also
had
some
on
palm
canyon
recently
and
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
testimony
about
fights
in
parking,
lots
and
street
corners
when
people
spill
out
at
two
in
the
morning.
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A
And
we
can
probably,
as
we
deal
with
that,
also
refer
the
city
possible
as
a
concern
and
ask
them
to
take
it
up.
I
just
I
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
specific
application.
I
have
a
problem
with
what's
happening
in
with
the
crime
level,
that's
been
increasing
in
the
neighborhood
and
the
perception
of
us
as
a
city.
We
don't
need
another
zeldas.
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I
We
are
renting
the
space
from
the
owners,
the
new
owners
of
the
hotel,
but
we
are
working
really
close
with
columbia
management
and
they
are
really
excited
for
us
to
open
the
club
and
they
see
it
is
going
to
be
a
really
big
benefit
to
them
for
booking
out
the
hotel
and
for
bringing
in
they
have
a
huge
convention.
Space
downstairs
if
you're
aware-
and
this
is
going
to
be
really
helpful
to
helping
them,
sell
the
convention
state
space
and
we're
really
gearing
the
hotel
to
be.
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I
also
sent
him
and
alex
our
full
security
plan
already
everything
that
he
requested
to
be
in
there,
including
active
shooter
issues
and
other
things
is
all
in
the
security
plan
already,
and
they
have
that
as
well
or
lynch
yeah
and
michael
murphy
who's.
The
owner
is
also
the
owner
of
bart
lounge
in
cathedral
city,
which
we've
had
no
issues
with
security
issues.
We
have
no
problems,
we
have.
We
have
the
most
successful
latin
night
with
no
problems
on
sundays.
There
we
work
really
close
with
our
security
guards.
I
I
help
them.
Do
the
security
plan
there
as
well,
where
we
don't
allow
anyone
in
with
hats
or
bandanas.
We
check
everybody
at
the
door.
We
pack
customers
down
when
we
feel
necessary.
We
also
have
a
wand
if
we
feel
we
need
to
wave
somebody
down
or
check
their
bags.
We
do
so
so
we
we're
very
active
in
making
sure
that
we
have
a
safe
environment
for
our
customers
and
a
safe
environment
for
our
employees
as
well.
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We
have,
we
have
we're
valet.
Only
so
the
all
everybody
coming
to
the
ninth
club,
most
of
the
guests,
will
most
likely
be
staying
in
the
hotel,
so
they
will
just
be
going
back
to
their
rooms,
but
people,
people
that
are
coming
will
have
to
valet,
and
so,
when
people
ask
to
the
club
we
do
have
a
guard
that
is
roaming
who
does
check
check
the
he
will
check,
downstairs
check
the
parking,
the
valley
parking
garage
at
times
just
for
people
that
may
be
vagrants
walking
around.
I
But
when
people
leave
the
nightclub
there
will
be
a
security
guard
out
front.
We
have
one,
that's
going
to
be
out
front,
that's
maintaining
the
line,
and
then
he
can
also
make
sure
people
are
going
straight
to
valet
or
leaving
the
property
promptly,
because
it's
the
front
of
the
hotel,
the
hotel
in
us
will
be
working
together
to
make
sure
people
aren't
blocking
that
area,
because
it
is
an
active
driveway.
So
we
need
we
need.
J
I
share
that
concern
again.
What
happens
out
on
the
street
happens
out
on
the
street
they're
really
only
responsible
for
what
happens
in
their
building
their
their
security
guard.
Could
they
have
a
garage
under
the
hotel
where
they
valet?
I
don't
know
if
guests
are
allowed
to
self-park
there.
That's
an
important
question.
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C
If
you
go
back
to
the
security
plan,
I
know
you
probably
can't
see
it,
but
the
security
plan
that
they
drew
up
shows
three
two
two
people
at
the
door,
one
inside
the
door,
one
outside
the
door
and
then
one
person
appears
to
be
in
the
covered
poor
crochet
area
as
well.
Sorry,
it
does
show
all
three
yeah
three
of
them
that
would
be
available
for
that
purpose.
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A
The
the
issue
I
wanted
to
send
to
city
council
is
just
that.
We
have
had
issues
before
us
in
the
last
two
meetings
of
fighting
in
the
parking
lots
at
2
am
of
fights
on
the
streets
and
recently
gun
violence
within
a
block
of
the
area
and
I'd
like
this,
and
I
don't
know
that
this
should
be
entirely
a
police
matter.
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H
Okay,
so
the
applicant
george
youssef
is
just
amending
their
original
conditional
use
permit
to
change
the
hours
from
6
a.m,
to
12
a.m,
to
6
a.m,
to
2
a.m,
so
they're
increasing
their
hours
by
2..
This
is
the
the
site
plan.
Their
retail
store
is
highlighted
in
green
they've
got
gas
pumps
a
car
wash
and
their
little
liquor
store
inside
our
convenience
store
inside.
This
is
what
the
store
looks
like
on
the
outside.
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J
Questions
I
have
a
few
questions
myself
and
I'm
sorry.
I
didn't
forward
these
questions
to
you
earlier.
Is
this
an
anomaly
in
any
way?
Do
we
have
other
examples
of
gas
stations
that
are
just
selling
booze
out
of
a
window
all
night?
Are
they
all
doing
that
that
serve
that
excel
during
the
day
to
sell
packaged
goods
like
this
or
and
again?
I
know
this,
I'm
throwing
this
at
you
last
minute.
J
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
know
if
this
is
an
anomaly
in
any
way.
I
also
think
that
we
need
to.
I
know
that
there
are
when
I
was
on
city
council.
We
always
were
looking
at
the
numbers
of
liquor
stores
that
were
open
at
this
hour.
We
were
looking
at
saturation
levels
and
I
think
we
should
look
at
the
saturation
level
of
this.
Did
staff.
Look
at
that
in
any
way,
in
terms
of
how
many
other
stores
are
selling
liquor
until
two
within
proximity
to
this
particular
location.
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K
Yes,
I
have,
I
can
answer
the
security.
The
security
goes
around
twice
a
night
and
uncalled
during
the
day
and
at
night,
when
we
call
him
arranges
and
depends
on
how
many
calls
he's
got
normally
runs
from
20
to
30
minutes.
Sometimes
the
we
close
the
window
because
we
try
to
keep
the
site
clean
and
we
don't
want
any
beer
runs
and
people
stealing
stuff
and
running
with
it.
K
We
don't
like
the
confrontation
with
some
of
the
homeless
that
we
got
and
we
have
been
successful,
of
keeping
a
clean
side
since
I
started
the
selling
beer
and
wine
and
liquor
in
there.
I
kept
it
meticulous
clean
and
we
have
no
problem
with
even
the
homelessnesses
are
there
that
we
take
care
of
them
in
a
way
that
we
don't
call
the
cops
many
times.
K
K
Different
different
times,
he
just
passes
by
make
sure
that
no
homeless
no
trouble.
But
if
we
do
need
him,
we
call
him.
He
comes
back
they're,
mainly
they're
they're,
basically,
in
the
downtown
area
palm
springs
side,
the
north
side
of
of
us.
It's
maxwell,
security,
they're,
a
very
reputable
company,
and
they
do
a
good
job.
So
they're
doing
drive-bys.
K
We
have
been
lucky,
you
know
once
every
couple
weeks
or
something
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
problem,
we
keeping
it
we're,
keeping
the
homeless
off
the
side.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
problem
and
when
they
do
come
in,
we
take
care
of
them,
so
we're
giving
them
whatever
they
need,
and
we
we
have
no
problems.
So
far.
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Unlike
the
previous
application,
I
believe
that
this
is
different.
It
is
different
if
you
go,
buy
a
six
pack
of
beer
or
a
bottle
and
you're
left
to
consume
it
on
your
own.
You
might
not
have
the
same
judgment
or
the
same
interest
in
limiting
your
consumption
and
maintaining
a
sense
of
sobriety
as
a
bartender
would
whose
livelihood
arguably
depends
on
their
preventing
people
from
over
consumption,
and
I
am
concerned
a
20
to
30
minute
response
time
to
me
at
1.
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A
Yes,
yes,
I've
had
the
same
concerns,
commissioner
olanian
does
in
terms
of
response
time,
and
I'm
also
concerned
that
we
didn't
get
any
saturation
information
from
staff.
I'd
like
I'd
actually
like
to
hold
this
until
we
get
information
from
staff
as
to
how
many
of
these
facilities
there
are
and
and
I'm
concerned
you
know,
I'm
not
sure
I
haven't
seen
any
arguments
as
to
why
that
we
should
be
extending
liquor
sales
from
12
till
two
in
the
morning
on
a
drive-through
basis.
J
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A
J
I
agree
that
it
would
help
to
have
some
information
about
how
many
other
locations
are
within
a
certain
amount,
the
saturation
level,
but
more
importantly,
are
most
establishments
that
are
selling
package
goods
selling
until
2
a.m.
And
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
It
would
be
helpful
to
know
that
right.
I
think
this,
I
don't
think
the
issue
of
whether
these
places
in
general
should
be
serving
until
two
is
really
an
issue,
but
I
for
us,
but
I
think
it's
an
important
issue
to
be
discussed.
J
But
again
this
is
a
much
bigger
conversation
than
than
this
applicant,
just
simply
expanded
extending
for
for
two
more
hours.
But
the
commission
wants
to
get
some
more
information
about
how
many
other
package
stores
exist
between
12
and
2
and
if
we're
creating
an
anomaly
by
allowing
it
or
if
it's
very
common.
I
think
we
should
know
that.
I
would
support
that
request.
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F
I
don't
know
I'm
just
if
the
police
have
done
their
research
and
said
that
it's
okay,
I
think
it's
just
our
job
to
to
look
look
at
it
and
take
it
for
face
value,
not
go
into
detail
about
how
and
then
first
you
know.
Basically
we
would
have
to
all
the
other
applicants
they
were
getting
for.
The
same
situation
would
have
to
you
know,
look
at
the
criminal
backgrounds
for
that
area.
F
J
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A
I'm
just
concerned
that
we
don't
know
what
we're
doing
and
I
and
and
that
there's
not
planning
involved
in
this
and
and
even
if
we
approve
this
applicant,
we
can
at
least
send
some
concerns
to
the
city
council
to
take
a
look
at
it.
But
I
I'm
concerned
about
lack
of
understanding
what's
happening
in
our
city.
J
I
will
support
that.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
if
that's
a
motion
I'll
second-
it
yes
continue
this
to
our
next
meeting
for
staff,
to
pull
some
information
for
us
on
saturation
levels
within
maybe
a
two
block
radius
and
give
us
the
hours
of
those
businesses
selling
package
goods.
Please
give
us
the
hours
and
days
that
those
businesses
are
in
operation,
other
amendments
or
questions
to
this
or
comments.
Mr
newell.
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So
the
adjacent
tract
which
extends
from
ramon
road
to
the
south
and
goes
much
further
north
is
census
tract
zero,
four,
four:
six
dot:
zero,
six,
zero,
four,
four:
six
dot:
zero
six
has
also
four
liquor
license
off.
Off-Premise
liquor
license
active
off
retail
licenses,
the
rite
aid
on
south
palm
canyon,
los
palmas
liquor
at
1595,
north
palm
canyon,.
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J
So
any
information
you
can
gather
about
that,
and
also
I
don't
know
if,
in
the
general
plan
there
are
saturation
limitations
again
he's
already
selling
until
midnight.
So
I
that
argument
probably
doesn't
hold
much
water
since
he's
only
extending
for
two
hours,
but
let's
find
out
who
is
selling
packaged
goods
until
2
a.m
and
who
they
are
specifically.
E
J
D
A
D
E
E
J
J
E
J
E
Yeah
I
mean
it's
the
one
that
the
former
former
rail
my
comment
was
that
there
are,
there
are
people
working
there,
but
not
very
many.
So
I
don't
they
can
claim
that
they're.
You
know
doing
work
on
it
and
have
three
people
working
there
I'd
like
to
know
if
they
have
a
full
complement
of
of
contractors.
It's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
in
that
place,
and
it's
not
just
something
that
a
handful
of
workers
can
deal
with.
Mr.
B
E
J
D
No
new
updates
beyond
the
structure
being
removed
from
the
site.
We've
had
talks
with
potential
buyers
of
it,
but
I'm
not
certain
as
to
where
the
the
ownership
is
on
that
right
now
with
moving
the
project
forward.
But
it
could
look
like
a
promising
site
for
possible
housing,
which
would
be
great
and
potentially
something
along
the
front
edge.
That
might
be
that
might
work
well
along
northbound
canyon,
but
nothing
formal
has
been
submitted.
J
D
J
J
D
A
A
E
J
D
J
D
The
other
item
that
pertains
to
the
commission
is
that
was
on
their
agenda
at
the
last
meeting
was
the
vision
and
priority
statements
from
the
general
plan
update,
and
so
we've
got
some
additional
direction
from
council
on
that.
So
the
council
has
requested
that
we
make
some
additional
changes
to
the
vision
of
parties
which
we
will
bring
back
to
them
and,
of
course,
once
that
is
finally
has
been
blessed
by
council,
we
will
provide
the
commission
a
copy
of
that
as
well.
Those
are
the
only
updates
I
had.
D
J
A
B
F
I
just
want
to
tell
chair:
thank
you.
We're
taking
24
students
from
the
ages
of
9th
grade
to
12th
grade
palm
springs,
unified
school
district
is
taking
students
and
we'll
be
visiting
a
couple
of
colleges
of
four
colleges
in
washington,
d.c
and
the
trip
will
be
six
days
and
the
students
didn't
have
to
pay
anything
in
return.
We
had
the
students
write
some
essays
about
why
they
wanted
to
go
on
the
trip
and
we
ended
up
getting.
It
was
only
supposed
to
be
like
a
couple
paragraphs.
F
J
Commissioner,
urban
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
you
agendaze
that
with
city
council
and
get
more
press
on
that,
what
you're
doing
is
awesome
and
if
it
goes
to
city
council
it'll
get
a
lot
of
press.
I
know
you're
already
in
the
paper,
but
I'm
sure
you
can
even
get
more
press
on
this
and
I
think
the
more
pressure
you
get
the
more
it
might
inspire
other
kids
and
other
people
to
help
you.