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A
This
is
a
public
meeting
and
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue
that
is
within
this
committee's
purview.
Comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
that
that
item
is
presented.
If
you
want
to
speak
on
an
item
that
is
not
on
today's
agenda,
you
may
speak
now.
Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes.
Is
there
anyone
here
who
wants
to
comment
on
an
item
that
is
not
on
today's
agenda?
A
E
D
G
A
We
can
move
on
to
unfinished
business
core
Palm
Springs,
for
a
major
architectural
application
for
the
construction
of
a
94
unit,
three-story
condominium
building
and
a
8514
square
feet
of
retail
space
within
two
separate
buildings,
so
I
believe.
That's
now
been
modified
located
at
one
one.
Two
two
East
tufflips
Canyon
way
sure.
H
Thank
you
chair.
As
you
mentioned,
this
project
was
reviewed
by
the
AEC
at
the
December
3rd
2018
meeting,
and
there
were
several
comments
and
I'd
like
to
start
off
for
the
the
two
members
that
were
not
here
that
are
new.
There
were
minutes
that
were
included
from
that
meeting
for
you
all
to
bring
yourself
up
to
speed
on
what
the
project
was
and
what
the
discussion
was,
and
also
the
staff
report
was
previous
was
available
online.
Also,
so
the
AEC
at
that
meeting
asked
for
some
reevaluation
of
several
things
within
the
project.
H
They
include
the
sequence
drive
along
hermosa
road
and
the
drop-off
area
within
the
residential
area
and
some
guest
parking
further
study.
The
residential
building
elevation,
some
landscape
and
lighting
concerns
pedestrian
circulation
throughout
the
site
of
the
design
of
the
dog
park
area
along
tahquitz
canyon
way
and
then
the
retail
building.
So
they
reviewed
the
project
and
in
one
second
here
they
have
revised
several
elements
of
the
proposal
and
I'd
like
to
go
over
some
of
them
in
the
applicants.
H
H
So
if
I
go
to
this
slide,
you'll
see
that
at
the
bottom
of
the
slide
at
the
bottom
right-hand
side,
there
was
a
driveway
that
went
into
the
retail
portion
that
has
been
eliminated
so
now
there's
only
a
driveway
in
and
out
along
Hermosa
and
then
also
the
driveway
that
is
off
of
taco
it's
another
significant
change
was
that
the
retail
building
one
of
the
buildings
has
been
eliminated,
so
there's
only
one
retail
building
now
and
that
has
been
moved
to
the
corner
of
Hermosa
and
taco
whit's,
which
has
enlarged
the
dark.
The
dog
park.
H
Additional
guest
parking
has
been
provided,
there's
a
parking
count
that
is
on
a
table
within
your
staff
report
that
you
can
peruse.
The
total
number
of
guest
parking
spaces
now
is
50,
and
that
includes
parking
for
guests
that
come
to
the
residential
building
and
then
parking
associated
with
retail
portion.
H
There
was
some
discussion
about
the
dog
park,
fencing
and
I'm.
Going
to
move
through
a
slide
here
that
shows
this
sequence
of
an
undulating
sort
of
curvilinear
wall
that
is
fronting
along
tok
wits
and
it
is
alternating
between
masonry
and
court,
end
pickets
and
then
also
stone
along
the
interior
of
the
wall.
H
So
when
it
can't,
when
the
changes
of
the
architecture,
there
was
discussion
about
this
front
entry
area.
Here
with
the
used,
there
was
a
glass
curtain
wall
that
was
at
the
entry
they've
revised
that
a
little
bit
and
they
will
go
into
greater
detail
of
as
to
what
that
is.
There
was
also
discussion
of
the
this
is
the
corner
that
fronts
along
East
taça
wits.
There
were
some
comments
about
the
building
being
closed
and
how
to
articulate
the
the
design.
So
these
3d
images
that
they
see
asked
for
greater
detail.
H
You
can
see
that
there's
a
stairwell
and
there's
a
glass
opening
to
sort
of
make
it
more
interesting.
So
once
again,
this
slide
shows
the
entryway
into
the
development.
There
was
an
entry
into
the
retail
parking
lot,
but
that's
been
eliminated
per
the
request
of
the
AC
and
you
can
see
the
the
undulating
wall
along
pucketts
for
the
dog
park.
H
The
AEC
asked
the
archit,
the
the
designer
to
relook
at
the
retail
building
and
they've
made
several
changes
to
to
this
structure.
They've
lowered
it
in
height
by
almost
2
feet
and
they've
added
different
elements
of
the
building
to
make
it
more
interesting
and
more
pedestrian
friendly,
which
is
what
the
section
14
plan
requires.
H
H
E
J
H
Meets
this
meets
the
required
setbacks
in
the
REO
zone
and
height
and
height.
It
meets
the
requirements
of
the
height
and
we
discuss
the
residential
height.
There
is
a
maximum
allowed
height
and
then
there's
allowed
height
for
screening
of
mechanical
equipment
beyond
beyond
what
the
maximum
height
is,
and
it's
I
think
the
maximum
height
is
41
feet
at
the
elevator
shafts
and
then
the
height
of
the
buildings
themselves
are
35
and
the
section
14
plan
allows
you
to
be
35.
Okay,
thank.
J
A
A
A
L
L
Excellent
well,
thank
you
very
much
for
having
us
here
and
we're
looking
forward
to
walk
you
through
mainly
all
the
comments
that
were
made
in
the
last
meeting
that
we
have
Thank
You
Glen
you've
made
my
life
a
lot
easier.
You
showed
a
lot
of
the
slides
I'm
going
to
show,
but
I'm
gonna
walk
through
them
and
I
know
that
we're
limited
on
time,
so
I'm
gonna
kind
of
speed
through
them
very
quickly
and
then
any
questions
after
that.
L
Again,
this
is
the
this
is
a
pedestrian
plan
to
kind
of
show
you
a
little
little
more
about
how
we
get
around
here,
the
main
plaza
in
front
of
the
retail
and,
as
you
can
see,
there
was
some
discussion
about
getting
to
the
dog
park
from
here.
We
continued
the
pathway
around
the
building.
We
have
another
access
point
down
on
this
point
to
get
to
the
dog
park.
L
Now,
let's,
let's
go
to
this
one
next,
one
yeah,
sorry
there
was
a
question
asked
about
a
little
more
about
the
amenities.
This
is
the
resort
area
of
the
project
and
I.
Think
I'm
gonna
have
Pete
address
some
of
those
concerns.
Okay,
thank.
K
K
E
K
There's
some
concern
about
the
palm
trees
and
how
close
they
are,
so
we
thought
they
did
in
the
last
meeting.
We
said
that
they
were
gonna,
be
about
20
feet
apart,
which
means
they
fronds
and
the
palms,
but
just
about
touch
not
quite.
We
actually
looked
on
the
CAD
base.
They're
22
feet
apart,
so
the
frogs
again
they'll
be
close,
but
it's
they're
not
going
to
touch.
It's
gonna
provide
a
very,
very
nice
light
shade
over
over
the
driveway
and
help
reduce
heat,
making
a
much
more
pleasant,
walking
experience.
The
next
question
was
about
lighting.
E
E
K
Lighting,
we
see
some
of
the
fixtures
here
everything
all
the
light
fixtures
we're
gonna,
have
we're
gonna,
really
gonna,
try
and
do
middle
all
about
a
lighting.
We're
not
gonna
flood
light
the
whole
area,
it's
going
to
be
from
point
to
point
and
every
fixture
that
we
use
will
be
shielded
in
a
way
to
direct
the
light
down
to
the
ground.
We
don't
want
it
to
be.
Very
you
know
we
want
to
try
and
preserve
a
dark
sky
as
much
as
possible.
K
Also,
the
water
feature
at
the
entry
and
I
believe
that
is
at
the
entry
right
here.
That's
good
yeah
so
originally
had
this
bigger
kind
of
landscape,
a
bigger
water
featured
similar
to
what
was
this
trellis
and
we
didn't
get
any
real
comments
about
of
the.
Perhaps
we
should
think
about
it
again
and
actually,
where
we
came
up
with
we
like
where
this
is
going,
it
is
a
little
different
as
a
public
art
Island
we're
talking
about
doing
a
piece
of
sculpture
out
there
that
everybody
can
enjoy
as
you're
coming
around.
K
K
K
K
M
K
You
go
this
right
here
and
I
think
we're
still
up
in
the
air
about
that.
I
think
there's
some
advantages
to
both
and
I.
Don't
think
we're
really
at
a
position
that
we
can
say
we're.
Definitely
gonna
do
one
or
the
other
I
think
we
have
a
tendency
to
maybe
steer
more
towards
the
natural
turf,
because
it's
going
to
be
make
the
environment
feel
much
cooler
out
there
and
all
that.
So
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
to
that.
But
I
can't
say
that
we've
definitely
decided
yet
one
way
or
another.
K
Provide
common
here
provide
more
detail
on
the
landscape
design
and
that
actually
occurred
about
a
couple
things.
There
was
talk
about
detail
along
here.
You
know
this
plan.
You
can
see
how
we
ventilated
the
wall
for
the
dog
park
and
we've
placed
some
trees
in
there.
Another
question
was
regarding
detail
along
this
edge
here.
There's
a
comment
about.
L
K
K
K
The
overall
plan
we're
looking
at
view
standing
here,
looking
down
this
this
edge
here.
So
one
comment
was
to
enlarge
of
the
patios,
which
we've
done
and
we've
also
increased
the
landscape
area,
where
we
were
about
three
feet
before
we're
at
about
six
feet
now,
with
a
five
foot
walk
and
then
about
eight
to
ten
feet
on
the
outside.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
room
for
trees
and
so
forth
and
shrubs
to
give
as
much
privacy
over
there
as
possible.
So
we'll
really
be
trying
to
get
trees
on
both
sides
to
make.
E
K
K
K
K
L
You
again,
we
know
the
retail
slide
real
quick.
We
can
talk
a
few
things
about
that.
Again,
it
was
discussed
about
the
height
of
the
retail
I
know,
Glen
mention
it
and
we
did
decrease
the
height
of
the
building
by
18
to
24
inches,
and
we
have
added,
on
the
architectural
side
stone
wall
to
start
because
I
think
one
of
the
comments
was
about
the
architecture
and
how
do
we
start
tying
the
two
projects
together
and
we
use
the
stone
wall
that
could
maybe
be
in
a
future
date.
L
Signage
opportunity,
we've
also
on
the
architecture,
got
rid
of
the
plate,
core
10
and
we're
actually
doing
core
10
fins,
they're
2
by
8.
That
will
go
vertically
up
to
cry
to
start
creating
shadow
lines
along
here
and
we
added
kind
of
a
secondary,
smaller
canopy,
to
quite
a
try
to
bring
the
scale
down
to
the
pedestrians
on
this
slide
and
and
the
the
fins.
L
L
They
go
to
the
third
floor,
this
the
third
floor
architecture,
business
discussed
about
the
architecture.
The
third
floor
is
really
our
anchor
the
horizontal
band
that
we
wanted
to
create
on
this
building
that
we
felt
fit
for
a
building
of
this
length
and
scale
to
try
to
anchor
the
top
of
this
building,
and
so
that
was
the
whole
concept
and
we
feel
really
good
about
this.
One.
L
There
was
a
question
about
openings
and
garages
and
I
just
want
to
repeat
it,
because
I
did.
We
did
to
address
it
last
time
that
this
garage
is
going
to
be
mechanically
ventilated.
So
we
won't
have
openings
in
the
garage
I.
Think
that
was
asked
at
one
time
and
then
talked
a
little
bit
see
just
wanna
make
sure
I'm
covering
all
the
points
yeah.
We
did
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
corner,
how
we're
anchoring
the
corner?
L
We
we
we
had
it
last
time,
but
it
was
probably
not
as
visible,
but
we
do
have
a
glass
curtain
wall,
storefront
system
at
the
staircase
to
kind
of
break
up
the
stone
as
it
as
it
touches
the
building
and
then
we're
creating
the
the
core
10
fins
along
this
edge
there
and
in
that
panel,
and
that
was
kind
of
some
of
the
play
along
the
garage
base
is
creating
the
fins
with
the
stone
to
break
up
this
base.
We
are
going
to
be
berming
up
in
certain
locations
for
the
landscaping
area
on
it
and.
L
And
again,
we've
cut
down
the
amount
of
square
footage
of
glazing
on
this
entry.
But
again
we
felt
very
strong
that
we
needed
some
focal
point
as
the
main
entrance
of
the
project
that
differentiated
it
from
the
rest
of
the
architecture
of
the
project,
but
still
complements
it,
and
so
we
do
have
our
canopy
here.
We
do
have
we're
gonna
have
a
small
water
feature
as
you
walk
in,
and
then
we
have
a
pop-out,
because
we
do
have
some
functions
up
there.
L
Some
studios
up
there
that
we're
gonna
have
on
this
project
and
I,
think
we've
and
then
I
did
bring
along
just
to
was
asked
about
some
of
the
materials
again
and
so
I
wanted
to
bring
that.
And
if
you
don't
mind
this
was
the
stone,
the
ashlar
that
we're
talking
about
and
I
think
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
size
of
it,
the
scale
of
it
and
we
are
working
with
actually
a
local
vendor
that
will
actually
cut
it
to
our
specifications
that
we
could.
A
Thank
you
for
your
presentation
now.
This
is
a
public
discussion,
so
if
anybody
in
the
audience
would
like
to
make
a
comment
on
this
project,
please
come
forward.
You
have
three
minutes
any.
Should
we
move
we'll
just
see
if
anybody's
coming,
you
might
know
no
public
comments.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
that
will
conclude
the
public
comments.
Obviously
we
don't
need
any
applicant
rebuttal
because
we
didn't
have
any
comments.
So
now,
let's
have
our
discussion
amongst
our
committee.
G
E
L
Is
literally
future
development
we
are
not
yet
ownership
has
not
decided
yet
what
they're
going
to
do
with
it,
but
we
didn't
want
to
an
accept
peace
and
just
leave
it
as
a
vacant
piece
of
land.
We
want
to
incorporate
it
into
our
project.
It
will
be
a
legal
lot
separate
lot
through
the
track
map
process
and.
G
G
K
G
It
the
only
thing
I
I
sense
is
it
feels
like
it's
it
I
would
miss.
It
I
think
if
I
didn't,
if
I'm
driving
that
way
on
it,
I
would
probably
miss
the
drive
have
to
go
around
the
loop
and
come
back
because
it
doesn't
feel
like
it's
delineated
that
unless
you've
got
signage,
that's
you
know.
Retail
left,
yeah.
K
Two
clusters
of
Palms
and
these
curved
walls,
and
also
we
get
to
the
corner
and
you've
got
this
very
strong,
modern
architectural
element
with
this
stone
walls,
the
footprint
this
grid
planting.
So
hopefully
the
combination
of
the
architecture
and
the
gridded
landscape,
the
bold
landscape
and
the
left
turn
pocket,
and
hopefully,
some
signage
on
the
roof.
That
that'll
be
enough
to
yeah,
highlight
yeah
I.
L
G
J
I,
just
as
kind
of
a
point
of
kickoff
this,
this
package
that
I
got
was
the
first
time
I
had
seen
your
graphics
and
they're
very
helpful.
They
work
it's
refreshing
so
and
it's
the
key
plan
that
you
have
down
there,
that
you
can
see
the
point
that
the
perspective
that's
being
taken.
So
that's
that's
rather
successful.
I
am
new
to
the
party
and
so
I
mean
I,
see
a
bunch
of
canine
things
and
a
dog
owner
and
whatnot.
L
K
J
M
They
it's
an
amenity
for
the
residents,
because
LGBT
people
own
pets
to
a
much
larger
degree.
Okay,
then,
the
straight
community,
interesting
I,
never
knew
that.
But
I
went
to
a
presentation
and
by
about
20
points
and
and
lesbians
own
pets,
even
by
a
larger
margin,
so
we
felt
the
people
in
order
to
have
people
to
buy
units
and
want
to
live
in
it.
They'd
have
yeah,
they'd
have
to
take
care
of
their
pets,
and
it's
the
whole
point
of
that
area
is
for
that
point.
J
J
L
We
we
have
on
the
upper
floors,
we
have
10-foot
cantilevers
and
we've.
Actually,
our
structural
engineer
is
actually
working
on
that
down
got
it
resolved.
So
we
will
have
that's
a
good
one
right
there.
So
the
these
are
very
close
to
what
we're
actually
having
within
inches
I
would
say
the
the
first
floor
deck.
Those
will
be
all
concrete.
J
I
L
J
L
J
L
J
L
That
portion
just
you
know
the
first
two
stories
are
actually
it's
an
atrium
area.
It's
not
the
the
the
functions,
don't
come
up
to
that
glazing
other
than
on
the
third
floor,
and
that's
kind
of
where
that
that
eyebrow
element
came
in
about
I'll,
create
some
shading
there
and
and
obviously
it's
gonna
be
dealt
with
in
the
glazing
on
there.
As
far
as
heat
gain
and
all
that,
yes,.
L
M
J
B
J
L
M
J
J
J
J
E
M
J
That
you
travel
from
your
Lobby
to
room
can
be
kind
of.
You
know
that
that
goes
for
ever
yes
and
issues
of
wayfinding
and
security,
and
you
know,
because
you're
going
to
be
basically
in
a
no
natural
light,
quarter
right
for
a
long
way
if
you've
got
an
end
unit
anyway.
I
just
leave
you
with
that.
As.
L
F
L
F
L
L
E
H
C
A
E
L
F
You
know,
as
you
travel
around
there's
you've
got
a
lot
of
light
in
that
area.
I
think
my
point
last
time
was
this
is
residential
and
well
yes,
you're
trying
to
draw
people
to
an
entry
point.
You've
got
a
lot
of
things
going
on
that
are
an
entry
point
and
there's
going
to
be
Lobby
lighting
and
there's
going
to
be
lighting
under
the
structure.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
everything
light
yeah.
We
would.
K
Even
if
we
figure
we
need
one
here
like
I
agree,
we
don't
need
that
one,
but
this
would
here
if
we
figure
out
that
we
do
need
it
for
one
reason
or
another,
because
pedestrians
and
so
forth,
it's
gonna
be
about
top
level,
be
12
feet
which
I
think
the
first
residential
floor
is
gonna,
be
about
twelve
feet.
So
I
sit
to
the
floor,
so
the
top
of
the
fixture
will
be
below
the
floor
line.
Okay,
one.
F
L
F
L
I
think
you
know
conceptually
what
we
want
overall
on
this
entire
site
and
I.
Think
people
mention
is
that
we
want
to
have
low
level
lighting.
We
don't
want
to
have
a
over
a
buncha
abundance
of
lighting,
but
we
want
to
have
enough
lighting,
so
people
walk
around
safely,
yeah
I
agree.
Those
are
good
points.
Thank.
F
You
so
my
other
talk
wits
is
pretty
key
spot
in
town
you're,
going
from
the
airport
to
downtown
I.
Think
the
dog
park
by
day
is
much
more
attractive.
The
lighting
I
still
think
parking
lot
lights
thrown
in
for
utilitarian
uses.
Really
you
can
do
better.
I
hope
that
you
will.
Yes,
I
would
like
to
see
that
addressed.
F
A
I
I
The
access
drives
off
of
Hermosa
and
then
the
commercial
area,
even
graphically
on
the
site
plan,
just
portrays
a
large
amount
of
what
I
feel
is
unnecessary.
Pavement
in
that
area,
the
the
guest
parking
which
I
believe
is
part
of
that
area
adjacent
to
the
commercial
center
is
feels
like
it's
not
related
to
the
actual
building
itself.
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
that
if
the
desire
is
to
have
the
entrance
off
of
Hermosa,
it
could
be
moved
further
to
the
north.
I
Was
it
a?
What
did
we
ask
for
it
to
be
reduced?
You
do
not
it.
Okay,
no
no
I
feel
like.
If
you
need
a
commercial
area,
you
could
address
that
area
as
a
commercial
area.
I
think
you
could
address
the
entrance
and
access
to
the
building
as
like
a
private
entrance
or
for
what
that
is,
and
by
putting
the
two
together.
I
I
think
it
just
creates
a
lot
of
unnecessary
confusion
down
there,
and
this
statics
and
I
think
the
livability
of
the
project
be
improved
to
have
those
units
overlooking
your
secondary
pool
area,
the
commercial
area.
You
could
then
have
the
dog
park
more
adjacent
to
the
building
and
separated
you
know
by
a
parking
area,
so
I
think
the
dead-end
parking
area
at
the
commercial
is
problematic.
I
I
just
I
know
that
was
one
of
our
comments
previously
and
I'm
a
little
disappointed
that
that
nobody
took
a
look
at
that
part
of
it
and
and
if
the
entrance
I
know
there's
another
entrance
at
the
adjacent
property
to
the
east
further
north.
And
if
the
entrance
were
up
in
that
northeast
corner
to
the
hotel
or
to
the
living
facility,
then
you
would
also
have
access
to
your
future
parcel
at
the
same
time.
I
C
Couple
of
questions
the
most
of
these
are
related
to
I,
shouldn't,
say
the
the
water
feature
in
the
island
there.
Can
you
explain
that
to
me
just
a
bit
more
and
particularly
the
decision
to
change
from
sort
of
a
planted
Island,
and
so
it
you
spoke
about
the
destination
feature
there
or
the
goal
of
yours
to
create
that
as
a
destination
point
from
the
entry
and
and
when
I
looked
at
the
slides
and
I.
C
Look
at
that
plan
now
and
I
looked
at
the
previous
submit
all
it
looks
a
bit
flatter
and
maybe
less
interesting
than
it
was
previously
and
I
think
some
of
that
relates
to
maybe
a
lack
of
landscape.
Now
and
so
I
wonder
just
maybe
I'm
just
missing
something
around
to
some
of
the
decisions
involved
with
the
landscape
and.
K
L
Even
though
we
originally
liked
that
we
started
feeling.
It
might
be
too
bulky
for
this
entrance
because
it
was
shorter
and
wider.
And
so
we
liked
the
elegance
of
this
and
and
that
issue
of
transparency
with
the
water
with
it,
with
the
ponding
around
it.
To
give
it
that
tranquil
feel
that
that's
kind
of
part
of
the
concept
but
to
address
on
the
artists,
I
think
I
would
like
to
bring,
because
you
had
some
thoughts
about
the
artist.
L
E
M
But
I
do
there's
no
commitment
that
that's
gonna
be
the
art
you
see,
but
you
know
to
the
comment
about
the
focal
point.
Oh
I
think
we
do
want
a
focal
point,
but
you
know
this
also
is
a
residence.
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
hotel.
It's
not
a
casino,
so
I.
Don't
necessarily
think
that
it's
appropriate
to
have
like
a
big
statement.
I
want
something
elegant
for
people
and
I
think
this
is
an
elegant
entrance.
It's.
C
H
B
C
C
C
K
Entire
room
yeah,
you
can
see
here
the
wall,
the
height
really
is
gonna,
be
dictated
for
the
safety
of
the
dogs
and
people
who
are
walking
by
so
we
were
thinking
about
five
and
though
the
louvers
in
here
are
inspired
for
the
architecture,
so
we're
trying
to
incorporate
those
elements
and
bring
them
into
the
landscape
and
the
undulation
is
to
try
and
get
a
softer
feel
along
that
edge.
But
the
cover
we
had
last
time
is
they.
K
K
Have
something
broke
it
up,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
this,
you
can
see
that
there
is
a
variety
that
some
of
these
louvers
do
look
out
onto
the
sidewalk,
and
yet
some
of
them
are
pulled
back
a
little
bit.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
variety
along
along
that
edge,
but
there's
enough
consistency
that
it
doesn't
feel
like
it's
too
broken
up
or
too
much
disjointed
and
really
trying
to
anchor
the
edges
with
the
stones.
So
does
that
answer
your
question
for
that
about
five,
and
then
this
edges?
K
We
are
really
responding
to
the
straight
edge
of
the
parking
lot.
So
we're
trying
to
be
soft
on
this
edge,
which
relates
to
if
we
went
to
the
overall
we
don't
need
to.
But
if
we
go
to
the
overall
you'd
see
that
there's
these
curved
walls
of
the
media,
to
log
chocolates
and
but
on
this
side,
where
we
have
this
straight
line
of
the
parking
lot,
we're
trying
to
respond
to
that
too,
because
we
really
want
to
make
that
dog
Park
as
big
as
possible
to
really
give
more
room
for
play
and
so
forth.
C
K
With
just
these
two
trees
here
and
I
bet
we're
going
to
end
up
having
one
or
two
more.
If
you
go
to
the
overall
illustrative,
there's
a
problem
between
the
illustrative
and
doing
something
in
Sketchup.
If
you
go
to
the
overall
illustrative
you
can
see,
we've
got
our
say.
You
know
one
two,
three
four
trees
here
and
we've
also
showed
a
little
bit
more
of
the
play
mouths
and
some
of
the
little
one
of
the
things
were
want
to
do
in
there.
The
like
we
have
an
Australian
Shepherd.
K
It
loves
to
rub
between
the
little
vertical
sticks,
so
give
opportunities
for
people
to
play
with
their
dogs,
like
that,
so
we
started
to
show
that
in
there,
where
the
Sketchup
model
is
really
more
about
scale
and
how
the
architecture
fits
with
the
landscape.
But
you
know
here:
we've
got
four
trees.
We've
also
got
more
trees
in
here.
I
think
this
is
probably
a
little
bit
more
accurate
to
what
we'll
actually
be
showing
you
know.
If
you
go
to
the
plan
view
dot,
the
Sketchup
got
you.
C
Thanks
for
their
response
back
to
the
architecture,
the
type
of
stone,
can
you
explain
to
me
why
you
chose
the
ashlar
cut
and,
and
why
your
or
what
direction
you
mentioned,
you're
working
with
a
local
supplier
and
working
on
the
scale
of
it?
Well,
where
are
you
what
what
is
the
scale
or
what
are
you
leaning
towards
it
and
the
color
combination?
And
what
was
your
inspiration
and
what?
Why
are
you
there
with
that
and
it's
a
sandstone
that
looks
like
yeah.
L
Yeah
originally,
when
we
were
looking
at
it,
we
were.
We
were
looking
at
actually
a
very
low
profile,
more
rectangular,
linear
stone
cut.
That
was
had
a
lot
more
consistency
on
it
and,
as
we
started
looking
at
it
with
the
architecture
it
for
one
thing,
is
it
stretched
the
building
out
way
too
far
and
part
of
this
ashlar
is
we
tried
to
want
to.
We
wanted
to
pick
up
some
of
the
colors
from
the
desert
here
and
and
conceptually
have
break
up
the
linear
approach
to
this
building
with
some
randomness
with
this
with
these
stones.
L
So
as
far
as
the
scale
is
concerned,
is
that
as
we
as
we
look
at
it
on
the
renderings,
you
know
I
go
back
and
forth
that
sometimes
I
think
they
should
be
bigger,
a
little
bigger
profile
on
these
pieces.
So
that's
why
I
mentioned
that
we
are
working
with
the
with
the
supplier
that
they
cut
to
order
so
that
we
might
be
looking
at
the
scale
on
it.
But
but
the
inspiration
really
came
from
the
desert
colors
and
breaking
up
the
horizontal
horizontal
t
of
the
of
the
building.
What
these
mm-hmm.
C
L
C
L
C
L
But
I
do
want
to
point
out.
It
might
not
appear
that
way,
but
they're
literally
10
feet
back
in
most
cases.
These
are
these
windows,
so
I
think
you
know
again.
Renderings
are
great
when
they're,
when
they're
there,
but
the
reality
when
you're
down
at
eye
level
and
I'm,
not
discounting
what
you're
saying
I'm
just
saying
that
these
windows
are
literally
recessed
back
quite
a
bit.
A
Okay,
couple
of
questions
at
the
previous
meeting
I'm
the
one
that
made
the
comment
about
openings
into
the
parking
garage
and
it
wasn't
for
ventilation
that
I
was
questioning
it.
It
was
to
get
light
and
recently
I've
been
experiencing
the
parking
garage
over
at
the
hospital
here.
That
has
no
natural
light
and
it's
a
spooky
place
to.
E
A
L
Explain
that
we've
actually
met
with
the
fire
department
multiple
times
on
the
whole
issue
of
fire
access
and
firefighting
birthless,
the
building
will
be
fully
sprinklered
for
one
thing,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
basically
what
the
fire
department
came
up
with.
We
are
gonna,
have
a
designated
apparatus
parking
here
and
here
all
the
these
towers
go
actually
all
the
way
to
the
roof
will
have
access
doors
and
we'll.
M
L
Dry
stand
pipes
to
the
door
and
this
roof
is
all
one
level,
so
there's
not
multiple
levels
and
their
access
with
the
pathways.
We
walk
through
that
and
they
felt
very
comfortable
with
on
a
firefighting
standpoint,
to
address
this,
and
that's
actually
why
we
did
it
this
way
and
and
why
they
agreed,
because
they
thought
it
was
senseless
to
have
a
fire
road
around
this
property.
That's.
A
Good
I
don't
see
any
locations
of
mechanical
equipment
for
the
retail
building
or
the
residential
and
I
would
think
on.
The
residential
building.
You're
gonna
obviously
have
units
and
every
mechanical
for
every
unit,
but
then
you've
got
corridors.
Restaurants,
health
clubs.
What
what
is
the
mechanical
situation?
Okay,.
L
Their
mechanical
be
obviously
centrally
located.
That's
why
we
we
lift
it
up
these
panels
there
to
screen
it
off
and
obviously
we'll
deal
with
any
other
additional
screening
in
the
middle
of
the
roof
to
screen
off
that,
so
they
won't
be
most
likely.
This
will
be
packaged
units
since
its
retail.
On
the
residential
side,
all
the
units
have
closets
fau,
closets
condensers
will
be
on
the
roof.
All
the
condensers
are
more
centrally
located.
L
So,
within
the
plan
you
notice
the
long
corridor
that
we
have
they'll
all
be
condensers
will
be
grouped
more
along
that
corridor
line,
so
they're
set
back
from
the
edge
of
the
building
and
then
that
I
could
show
you
on
here.
That's
kind
of
the
reason
why
this
green
wall
came
up
too.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
don't
want
to
see
any
minute
mechanical
equipment.
A
A
L
Trash
room
is
down
here
for
residential
in
the
garage,
so
it
is
the
south/southwest
garage,
so
that's
when
they
come
in
off
at
quits
and
they
could
pull
right
up
to
the
the
garage
entrance
there
and
that
that
loading
zone
there
that's
part
of
it.
So
they
could
take
the
containers
right
out
to
their
who.
L
L
A
L
A
When
I
look
on
your
site
plan,
you
show
a
property
line
around
the
retail
building
and
it
cuts
into
about
a
third
of
the
dog
park,
implying
that
two-thirds
of
the
dog
park
is
probably
on
that
drawing
right
there.
Two-Thirds
of
the
dog
park
is
owned
and
maintained
by
the
residents
and
one-third
is
owned
by
the
retail
who's.
Gonna
maintain
that
when
it's
on
two
different
ownerships
I'll.
L
A
A
Lastly,
the
water
feature
several
years
ago
when
the
drought
was
really
significant.
All
the
water
features
in
Palm
Springs
were
turned
off
and
when
it's
right
there
in
the
entry
to
your
building
to
have
an
empty
cement,
pond
looked
pretty
bad
and
I
would
wonder
if
you
would
consider
that
I
love
the
sculpture,
but
possibly
instead
of
the
sculpture
sitting
in
water?
Does
it
make
more
sense
that
it
sits
in
landscape
and
stones?
And
that's
just
a
comment
I
make
for
you
to
consider
yeah
and.
G
Tom
I
have
one
more
question:
I
just
thought
of
I
noticed
we
have
a
barbecue
area
on
the
far
west
side
of
the
plan.
I'm
sorry,
if
I
was
living
on
the
other
wing
to
the
east,
I
would
never
use
that
barbecue.
So
it's
because
it's
so
far
away
so
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way
to
integrate
one
as
well
on
the
east
side
of
the
plan.
K
There
are
baby-
it's
not
quite
as
clear,
but
in
this
area
right
here
to
pretend
we
have
a
bocce
ball
court
and
pickleball
and
so
forth.
So
there's
been
talk
about
having
another
secondary
unit.
Maybe
not
quite
is
not
quite
as
fancy,
but
so
there
would
be
a
little
bit
closer,
so
hopefully,
if
you're
living
here
that
would
be
more
convenient
for
you.
A
E
I
H
Have
made
revisions,
there
was
an
issue
with
the
wall
that
every
25
feet
there
had
to
be
some
kind
of
feature
or
some
different
element
to
it,
which
we
could
look
at
the
the
pickets
as
being
sort
of
of
that
way.
The
the
building
setbacks
are
all
correct.
The
pedestrian
air
action
between
the
retail
has
been
improved,
so
it
and
then
the
proposed
landscaping
of
the
trees
they'll
have
to
do
the
the
Shepherd
lighting
along
taka
wit.
I
H
So
the
the
original
package
had
a
track
map
and
a
grading
plan
that
showed
four
separate
Lots.
Each
of
these
to
retail
buildings
were
separate
lot
than
the
larger
residential
and
then
the
the
turf
area
into
the
north
was
a
separate
lots
of
four
Lots.
With
this
plan,
they've
eliminated,
one
of
those
Lots
and
the
dog
park
has
become
part
of
the
residential
lot.
So
there's
three
Lots
the
top
portion
where
the
future
development
is
one
lot,
then
the
retail
building
is
another
lot
and
then
the
larger
lot
is
their
residential.
I
Okay,
thank
you.
I
guess.
Comments
towards
the
committee
is
I
still
have
a
problem
with
drop-off
and
circulation
plan.
You
know
they
have.
They
have
a
one
driveway,
that's
24
feet
wide
to
allow
for
the
fire
access
and
then
a
center
median
and
then
another
Drive,
that's
just
exit
only
at
18
feet.
So
we
have
42
feet
of
pavement.
I
There
I
think
they
could
create
that
sense
of
entrance
with
the
date-palms
and
so
forth
by
combining
those
two
together
and
eliminating
some
of
that
hard
scape
there,
but
also
concerned
with,
because
they've
developed
this
as
the
entrance,
the
only
the
people
who
are
in
that
southwest
wing
of
the
building
in
unless
they
you
know,
go,
go
in
off
a
Hermosa,
make
a
left-hand
turn
and
a
right-hand
turn.
Then
they
get
to
access.
I
I
And
I
think
some
of
those
you
know
I.
It
would
be
good
to
see
like
a
shade
study
from
the
building
on
that
secondary
pool
area,
if
that
actually
might
be
in
partial
shade
during
the
winter
months,
with
the
height
of
the
building
that
38
feet,
but
I
didn't
do
the
calculations
but
again
I
think
some
of
those
amenities
would
be
better
served,
especially
if
they're
looking
at
this
as
a
dog
park,
animal
care.
You
know,
on
the
other
side.
C
C
The
public
art
thing
sounds
interesting
and
great
and
incorporating
that
into
either
a
water
feature
or
a
landscape
feature
there,
but
it
was
sad
to
see
and
a
plan
and
the
renderings,
the
the
trees
and
the
landscaping
go
from
there.
It
seems
like
kind
of
a
cheapening
of
the
the
entry,
so
it'd
be
nice
to
see
that
come
back
with
some
landscape
improvements.
The
court
end
steel
on
the
upper
floor
still
seems
like
an
issue
to
me.
C
I
think
in
terms
of
the
dripping
effect
of
that
on
the
white
stucco
upper
tiers,
eating
meats,
the
wood
frame
and
stucco,
presumably
construction,
not
much
other
way
to
cover
the
wood
framing
of
the
second
and
third
floors.
So
I
don't
see
that
being
solved
with
the
quote
unquote
ceiling
of
the
court
annum.
It's
just
not
a
material
that
can
ever
truly
be
sealed
and
not
drip
rust
onto
white
material,
especially
a
white
to
cementitious,
porous
material,
so
I
think
a
better
solution
for
that.
C
C
The
laser-cut
panel
was
more
on
the
right
to
me
that
it
had
a
slightly
glossy
effect
and
I
thought
that
was
intentional
and
and
that
they
were
gonna
say
that
it
was
more
of
a
bronze
colored
powder
coated
panel
on
the
upper
from
there.
That's
a
powder
coated
panel.
You
know
to
mimic
what
they
were
doing,
which
I'm
not
a
huge
fan
of
not
being
true
to
the
material
but
I.
Think
in
this
case
it
was
fine
for
me
would
have
solved
the
issue.
C
You
know
I.
Think
I'd
like
to
see
more
about
the
stone
I
think
that
if
this
comes
back
again
and
why
they've
chosen
didn't
see
that
better
represented
in
more
of
an
ashlar
configuration
rather
than
that
stacked,
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
is
right
there,
but
the
way
the
architect
was
describing.
It
sounded
intrigued
in
more
of
a
better
direction,
with
some
inspiration
be
nice
to
see
that
come
to
fruition
in
the
drawings
and
renderings
I'm,
not
quite
sure
about
the
the
solid
material
all
along
the
the
dog
park
there.
C
It
feels
a
bit
like
a
prison
yard
to
me,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
why.
The
residents
would
want
to
be
in
that
space
and
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
see
how
it
attracts
people
from
the
exterior
to
look
into
it
other
than
to
keep
the
dogs
from
barking,
but
I
think
with
the
type
of
residence
that
you're
going
after
here.
C
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
masters
or
German
shepherds
in
here
either,
so
that
the
attack
dogs
and
pit
bulls
I,
don't
think
as
a
challenge
to
the
occasional
pedestrian
walking
up
and
down
talk.
What's
here
either
so
the
five
or
six
foot
high
solid
wall,
I,
don't
know
it's
a
hundred
percent
necessary
along
there.
C
So
I
would
think
that
you
incorporate
that
into
the
landscape
and
to
see
a
well-maintained
land
escape
that
you
know
kind
of
blurs
the
lines
it
allows
the
viewer
into
the
property
there,
especially
with
this
building
in
the
front.
It's
really
nice
that
that's
been
reduced.
I
would
think
that
would
be
nice
to
really
pull
the
viewer
into
the
site
there
and
not
block
them
out
with
that
wall,
and
so
it'd
be
nice
to
see
that
wall
go
away
in
a
much
larger
percentage,
then
than
it
is
now.
C
C
Yeah
I
think
it
is
because
it
could
get
a
little
hodgepodge
be
out
there,
especially
the
barbecue
comment.
I
thought
was
a
great
one:
I've
been
in
these
apartment
buildings
that
I
know.
If
it
is
far
away
to
me,
there
should
be
three
or
four
of
them.
People
on
the
South
building
are
never
gonna,
use
that
barbecue,
either
or
or
on
the
East
End,
and
so
you
know
our
barbecues
allowed
out
on
their
patios
and
barbecues
and
any
other
kind
of
furniture.
C
They
want
any
type
of
window
treatment
and
there
is
I
know
Maria's
big
issue
it.
The
last
time
this
this
building
was
presented
was
that
major
frontage
coming
to
a
point
in
the
way,
the
way
that
corner
of
the
building
meets
talk
with
Avenue
and
that's
a
it's
a
major
portion
of
the
building
and
several
balconies
for
right
there
at
the
street
frontage.
So
those
may
be
out
of
our
realm
of
influence
here,
but
I
think
they're
somewhat
important.
F
Let's
see
so
the
dog
park
I
appreciate
member
lockira
comments.
The
height
along
the
street
frontage
I
know
I
did
make
the
comment.
Last
time
of
there
are
people
who
are
fearful
of
dogs
in
general
and
walking
along
talk.
Widths
could
feel
threatened,
and
you
did
respond
to
that
comment.
But,
as
pointed
out,
a
5
foot
wall
right
there
is
is
tough,
so
maybe
there
is
an
in-between
solution.
I
do
appreciate
that
you
pulled
it
back
a
bit.
I
do
appreciate
that
the
undulation
there
are.
F
G
G
I
agree
with
the
comments
in
the
core
10
I
had
that
issue
as
well
about
dripping
on
the
white,
stucco
and
I.
Think
the
idea
of
doing
a
powder-coated,
bronze
steel
is
actually
a
great
idea
for
to
solve
that
issue,
and
you
can
pick
a
color
that
that
comes
really
close
to
the
the
court
and
color
the
rest,
color
I.
G
Think
again,
my
comment
about
the
barbecues
I
think
there
should
be
more
if
you
want
people
to
use
them
and
not
put
a
barbecue
on
their
on
their
patio
and
then
I
also
agree
with
the
comment
about
the
fence
with
the
dog
park.
I
like
what's
going
on
on
the
street
front,
but
I
think
to
the
to
the
parking
to
the
north
side.
J
Thank
you
it.
It
seems
as
though
there
is
still
just
in
general
unsettled
feeling
about
the
screens,
the
material
and
all
and
I'm
still
stuck
back
on.
The
sort
of
I
haphazard
is
too
negative
a
word
to
use,
but
it
does
seem
arbitrary
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
really
necessarily
be
tied
to
a
particular
rhythm
in
terms
of
it
being
a
core
temp
potential
problem.
J
Even
if
sealed
my
limited
experience
with
it
is
like
any
corrosive
material,
even
copper,
you
know
the
sacred
the
sacred
flashing
material
ends
up,
creating
a
pretty
easy
mess,
and
you
know,
if
you're
of
the
school
of
thought,
that
this
is
a
natural
material.
This
is
what
it
does,
okay,
but
it
could
become
a
maintenance
nightmare
for
you.
If
that's
not
what
you
want.
So
that
seems
to
me
to
be
somewhat
of
an
open
issue.
The
second
is
of
the
dog
park.
J
I
totally
do
understand
and
I'm
sympathetic
toward
the
issue
of
of
a
need
to
keep
it
from
being
a
complete
barrier.
At
the
same
time,
we've
all
experienced
walking
in
any
suburban
area,
and
you
go
along
a
fence
and
some
dog
with
attitude.
You
know
hits
that
fence
in
that
wall
and
it's
it
can
be
frightening.
You
can
be
a
dog
lover
and
just
feel
like
whoa
where'd
that
come
from
so
there's
a
the
die
is
cast.
You
have
put
the
dog
park
at
the
street
at
the
sidewalk
level,
okay,
so
now
what
so?
J
I
think
that
it's
it
is
an
issue
of
you
know
a
functional
issue
that
you
have
to
kind
of
solve
and
protect
the
pedestrian
and
their
sense
of
being
able
to
safely
walk
down
the
street,
and
then
the
last
thing
is
I
I.
Do
you
know
it's
my
one
and
only
comment
I'll
make
about
the
the
center
artwork
that
you
have.
I
worry
I,
think
that,
yet,
if
you
hit
it
right,
which
you
know
I
hope
it
is
it,
it
will
be
graceful,
it
will
be
iconic.
J
A
A
Think
on
the
stone
it's
difficult
to
look
at
one
six
inch
square
piece
when
we
know
that
when
you
bring
a
pallet
of
that,
it
probably
is
eight
or
ten
different,
colors
and
I.
Think
it's
not
being
well
represented
by
just
looking
at
one
little
piece.
The
the
photo
of
the
stone
on
the
color
board
gives
I
think
a
better
representation
of
the
color
variation
and
the
texture,
which
I
think
is
great.
A
It
would
be
really
sad
if
the
stone
is
it
went
on
the
building,
we're
very
monochromatic,
like
the
the
one
sample
piece
that
we've
seen
I.
Think
in
general,
the
committee
seems
to
accept
the
architecture.
There
are
some
modifications
and
some
fine-tuning
I
think
that
we've
all
discussed
I
think
mr.
doe
sees
comments
about
and
other
comments
that
we've
had
about.
The
double
dr
coming
in
I
mean
I.
A
You
know
maybe
the
dog
part,
and
it
deserves
to
be
behind
that
retail
building
instead
of
an
extension
to
the
left
of
the
retail
building,
so
that
it
does
feel
a
little
more
protected
from
the
from
the
sidewalk
I
think.
The
amenity
package
is
just
amazing
that
you're
proposing
for
the
for
the
future
owners
here
so
I
think.
Are
we
at
the
point
to
have
a
motion
from
the
committee?
Mr.
B
B
A
You
for
that
clarification,
I,
think
it
lets.
All
of
us
know
that
we're
going
to
have
a
second
chance
to
see
how
the
applicant
responds
to
these
comments
that
we've
been
making
I
think
the
the
toughest
comment
and
the
biggest
one
is
about
the
roads
and
the
driveways,
and
how
does
that
get
resolved
with
that
huge
amount
of
concrete
between
the
retail
building
and
the
residential
units?
A
I'll
just
make
a
comment:
I
would
I
would
think
that
we're
at
the
point
where
we
could
recommend
approval
to
the
Planning
Commission
with
conditions
or
with
comments.
Knowing
that
we're
going
to
get
to
see
this
as
it
comes
back
again
and
I'm
sure
there
will
be
a
handful
of
significant
comments
when
the
Planning
Commission
digs
into
it
I
think
it's
a
project,
that's
that
would
be
great
for
this
town
and
I,
don't
want
to
slow
it
down.
C
Make
a
motion
to
approve
the
project
with
our
comments
and
recommendations
as
as
discussed,
including
the
core
10
panels
and
I
think
I'll
make
one
clarification
on
that:
I'm,
not
opposed
or
I'm,
not
recommending
a
complete
changing
of
the
material,
but
the
changing
of
the
detail
might
fix
that
problem.
Also,
the
core
temp
panel,
proud
of
those
balconies,
might
solve
that
problem
with
dripping
on
to
the
the
white
stucco
below
it.
B
C
B
We
can
do
is
based
on
your
comments
here.
Staff
will
meet
with
the
applicant
in
between
the
time
that
this
goes
forward
to
the
Planning
Commission
to
look
at
how
we
might
make
revisions
to
the
circulation
pattern
prior
to
Planning
Commission.
Considering
the
item
I
think
that
would
probably
be
the
easiest
way
that
staff
sit
down
with
the
applicant
look
at
some
alternatives
based
on
the
comments
you've
given.
Okay.
B
B
E
A
Okay,
we're
now
gonna
move
ahead
to
new
business
item
number
three
Stout
burgers
and
beers,
restaurant
for
a
minor
architectural
application
to
review
outdoor
seating
enclosure,
railings
with
a
lighting
and
mr.
system
for
a
new
restaurant
located
within
the
first
floor
of
the
Rowan
hotel
at
100,
West,
tahquitz
canyon
way.
Mr.
I
H
H
This
project
is,
as
you
mentioned,
the
last
tenant
to
be
placed
in
the
base
of
the
Rowan
hotel,
which
is
at
the
corner
of
museum,
Way,
Bilardo
and
the
pedestrian
promenade
that
goes
through
between
the
the
Rowan
hotel
and
the
Bloch
building.
Beware:
the
H&M
building
is
so
the
rendering
that's
before
you
today
shows
what
they're
proposing,
which
is
railing
around
an
outdoor
patio,
poles
that
will
support
a
misting
system
and
also
lights.
H
So
I
have
some
photographs
of
existing
conditions
and
you'll
see
the
scoring
and
the
pavement
where
the
dark
pavement
meets.
The
lighter
pavement
the
proposed
railing
will
be
on
the
inside
of
the
dark
lines.
It
will
go
around
the
two
palm
trees
and
extend,
of
course,
in
closing
the
restaurant
use.
So
this
is
an
look
up:
the
pedestrian
walkway
towards
museum
way.
Once
again,
the
fencing
will
go
on
the
inside
of
the
darker
line
of
the
pavement,
the
other
restaurants
that
are
there
I'm.
H
So
the
Juniper
table,
which
is
at
the
other
end
of
the
predominant
promenade
at
the
base
of
the
Rowan
Hotel,
is
a
little
bit
different.
They
don't
use
railing.
They
have
some
tables
that
front
along
the
walkway
and
then
their
lights
are
a
little
bit
taller.
They
come
off
of
a
ring
around
the
palm
trees
and
connect
to
the
the
first
level
of
the
of
the
hotel.
H
So
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
what
else
is
out
there
and
that
this
picture
also,
if
you
look
farther
down
the
street,
there's
the
Tommy
Bahama
and
their
their
proposal
is
completely
different.
They
they're
big
bulky
poles
that
hold
and
support
umbrellas
and
a
mister
system.
So
it's
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
what
they're
proposing
this.
What
House
of
pokey
is
is
what
there
is
more
similar,
so
there's
a
drawing
in
your
packet
that
shows
the
details.
H
E
F
H
F
H
F
A
A
H
A
H
H
E
A
The
tall
posts
are
one
inch
square,
then
there's
a
horizontal
steel
post
and
the
tall
post
then
project
another
13
to
15
inches
past
the
horizontal
piece.
I
think
that
projection
beyond
the
horizontal
piece
looks
odd
and
to
me
it
would
seem
better
if
it
was
just
cut
flush
across
there
and
then
the
other
question
I
would
have
is
the
misting
system
is
a
half
inch,
copper
feeder
line,
and
it
looks
like
that
feeder
line
just
gets
attached
to
the
back
of
that
tube.
It's
not
really
built
in
it.
D
A
D
A
Second,
set
of
drawings
from
the
top
you've
got
the
horizontal
bar
at
7
foot,
9
inches
off
the
floor
and
then
the
columns
that
support
that
project
up
another
13
or
14
inches
I
think
that
projection
looks
odd
and
I.
Don't
know
why
you
wouldn't
just
cut
that
off
yeah
at
the
height
of
the
at
the
height
of
the
horizontal.
M
A
But
then
my
bigger
question
is
when
we
look
at
the
material
board
or
material
photos,
you're
showing
the
half-inch
copper
feeder
line,
and
then
the
little
misting
heads
that
get
screwed
into
that
feeder
line
well,
I'm.
Just
assuming,
then
that
that
round
feeder
line
is
just
being
somehow
attached
to
the
side
of
that
tube
and
I'm.
Just
wondering
if
something
a
little
more
sophisticated
since
you're,
building
the
system
from
new
can
that
feeder
line
somehow
be
incorporated
into
the
structural
system
that
you're
building,
maybe
there's
a
instead
of
that
being
a
solid
tube.
A
D
Sure
we
have
to
tech
talk
to
the
misting
company,
I've,
embedded
sprinkler
pipes
and
stuff
in
tubes.
So
you
didn't
want
to
see
the
pipes
and
we
put
them
in
and
hid
actually
protrude
right
out
of
the
tube.
We
could
probably
do
something
similar
if
you're
familiar
with
a
swirl
the
deck
on
this
world.
We
didn't.
D
There's
there
is,
there,
isn't
a
lot
of
lighting
and
the
existing
hotel
right
now
outside
they
didn't
put
very
many
lights
out
there.
So
there's
very
little
lighting
right
now
and
there
is
no
overhang.
So
the
challenge
is
how
to
get
light
out
over
people's
heads
where
they
can
read
menus
and
safely
move
around
and
inside
there
and
the
the
party
lights
seem
to
be
the
catch-all
for
all.
J
Didn't
know
if
you
had
three
choices
that
were
offered
from
the
building
in
terms
of
what
what
they
would
accept
and
what
whatever,
but
it
to
me
they're
a
bit
incongruous
with
the
architecture
and
I
could
be
on
thin
ice
here,
but
I
they,
you
know
I
know
I
should
be
thinking
like
Como,
but
I
kind
of
see,
boardwalk,
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
work
well
with
the
architecture
there.
Okay,.
E
M
D
Help
him
at
all,
it
was
all
up
to
him
to
figure
out
that
offer
and
the
idea
was
to
get
some
light
out,
because
what
is
on
the
building
is
way
up
against
the
exterior
wall.
There's
very
there's:
there's
a
couple
of
palm
tree
lights
out
there,
but
they're
they're,
not
helping
with
people
trying
to
read
menus.
J
A
O
O
Afternoon
mr.
chair
members
of
the
ABC,
so
this
is
a
minor
architectural
application
and
it
is
for
the
renovation
of
the
building
at
7:15
on
Palm,
Canyon
Drive.
So
just
a
very
brief
background
on
this
building,
it
was
a
child
I
built
way
back
in
the
1980s,
and
it
was
occupied
by
a
bank
for
a
long
time
and
but
has
been
vacant
ever
since
the
bank
they
get
at
the
building
records
are
the
serial
did
not
indicate
the
occupants
after
them,
but
the
building
has
been
become
quite
a
vial.
O
There
were
two
other
applications
to
turn
that
side
into
a
hotel
in
the
past,
but
those
never
moved
forward,
and
so
the
building
again
has
a
vacant.
This
applicant
are
the
new
owners
and
the
reason
for
the
renovation
is
that
the
the
use
at
the
location
is
going
to
be
changed
to
that
of
office
and
a
restaurant.
Hence
the
renovations
I
have
some
exhibits
on
the
board,
because
what
I
have
on
the
screen
may
not
be
very
clear.
However,
the
picture
that
you
seen
depicts
the
current
condition
of
the
site.
O
It
is
vacant
like
I,
said,
although
last
year
in
2018,
staff
did
approve
other
renovations,
I
decide.
That
only
relates
to
the
landscaping.
So
what
you
are
reviewing
today
does
not
include
landscaping.
It
is
only
for
the
exterior
renovations,
which
will
involve
all
the
four
sides
of
the
building
along
a
longtime,
Kenyan
dissident
side
and,
of
course,
at
the
eastern
side
of
the
project
along
Indian,
Canyon,
Boulevard,
Indian,
Canyon,
Drive,
sorry
and
your
recommendations
today
will
be
to
the
director
of
planning
services.
O
So
just
a
brief
description
of
what
the
project
will
entail.
He
will,
until
the
complete
do-over
of
the
front
section
of
the
building,
and
in
particularly
the
driveway
along,
not
Pam,
Canyon
will
be
eliminated
and
in
its
place
there
will
be
a
canopy
that
will
require
again.
This
is
this
is
the
existing
conditions,
so
the
next
slide
here
shows
what
the
new
sight
line
will
look
like
again.
The
changes
will
involve
the
frontage
and
then
on
this
side.
O
So
this
is
the
this
is
the
current
frontage
and
the
driveway
is
suddenly
part
of
the
of
the
site.
This
driveway
is
going
to
be
eliminated
and
you
will
have
a
canopy
that
would
stretch
from
the
front
and
wrap
around
the
building
and
also
I
mentioned
in
the
staff
report
that
the
driveway
will
be
replaced
by
a
cob
and
regular
sidewalk
along
not
Pam,
Canyon
Drive.
O
In
your
staff
report,
I
knew
Ted
in
details.
What
those
changes
were.
The
changes
that
are
being
proposed
would
look
like
you
are
to
be
looking
at
those
on
the
exterior
only
although
I
added
that
a
kitchen
would
be
added
to
the
building.
However,
what
is
before
you
mostly
on
the
exterior
changes?
The
renovation
will
also
include
a
repaint
of
the
building
and
also
describe
the
type
of
materials
to
be
used
for
the
repaint,
and
that
was
the
only
area
where
staff
struggled
to
understand
or
to
accept
the
kind
of
colors
that
have
been
proposed.
O
O
And
if
I'm
wrong,
the
architect
is
here
or
the
design
is
here,
this
is
the
color
that
staff
is
having
a
little
issue
with
there,
that
it
looks
very
dark
and
I,
don't
think
it
will
fit
within
that
area,
and
so
we
will
leave
that
to
the
members
of
the
ASC.
Perhaps
if
you
do
agree
with
that
color,
but
if
not
to
recommend
a
different
type
of
color
that
will
fit
into
that
in
that
immediate
vicinity.
O
O
I
will
conclude
my
staff
report,
the
applicant
and
the
designer
are
here
to
make
more
formal
and
more
detailed
presentation
to
you.
The
recommendation
on
this
ma-maa
will
be
to
the
director
of
planning
services.
So
now
I
will
conclude
my
staff
report
and
I'm
available
to
answer
your
question,
and
the
applicant
is
also
here
to
make
additional
presentation
to
you.
Thank
you.
F
A
P
P
Little
too
much
information
this
this
project,
first
of
all,
every
I'm
sure
everyone's
clear
that
we
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
previous
projects
that
were
submitted.
That's
a
previous
owner.
We
closed
escrow
a
couple
months
ago,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
clear
to
everyone.
I
know:
there's
some
history
there
and
were
part
of
the
new
history,
not
the
old
history.
P
P
We
we
just
the
first
point
we
wanted
to
make
about.
The
property
is
that
there
is
a
reason
why
it's
in
its
current
condition
and
I
know
there
was
there,
is
a
history
and
there's
there's
some
reasons
there,
but
it
probably
has
one
of
the
poorest
our
plans
for
office
space,
which
is
what
it
was
built
for
and
that
I've
ever
seen
what
I
saw
what
we
saw
when
we
were
looking
at
the
building
thinking,
is
it
even
possible
to
buy
this
place?
P
Is
you
know
some
of
the
obvious
things
that
the
location
and
Uptown
Design
District
is
amazing,
and
then
it
was
adequately
park,
which
is
never
the
case.
I'm
sure
you
guys
must
deal
with
that
all
the
time,
but
but
there's
there's
a
parking
plan
in
there
that
shows
where
week
so
we
can
get
80
parking
spaces
and
be
a
DA
complaint.
P
So
the
the
the
use
downstairs
also
the
office
use
in
general
is
kind
of
that
ships
sailed,
so
office
prices
are
still
at
$1
of
square
foot
and
you
can't
afford
to
buy
a
building
for
200
bucks,
a
foot
and
put
another
hundred
bucks
a
foot
into
it
and
turn
it
back
into
offices.
When
there's
no,
you
know
very
few
tenants.
It
take
years
to
fill
it
up.
So
so
our
intended
use
as
restaurant
downstairs
and
offices
upstairs,
but
with
a
sort
of
different
office
concept,
is
what
drove
the
design.
P
So
the
design
downstairs
to
attract
the
tenants
that
we
would
need
that
would
be
able
to
take
bite
off
a
7,000
square
foot
piece
of
interior
space.
They
needed
the
out
the
exterior
connected
space
as
patio
to
make
their
businesses
work.
So
we
worked
on
those
angles
and
worked
with
staff
and
Planning
Department,
and
they
were
able
to
tell
us
that
there
was.
P
You
know
a
good
chance
of
making
the
part
of
the
breezeway
or
driveway
to
go
away
as
I
guess
it
was
there
for
a
bank
which
is
no
longer
they
use
so
anyway,
that
that
kind
of
that
kind
of
brings
you
up
to
speed
as
to
why
we're
trying
to
do
this
project
I
need
office.
Space
I
wouldn't
use
the
downstairs.
It's
too
much
office.
P
Space
I
can
barely
fill
the
upstairs,
and
then
we
have
this
big
downstairs
piece
that
we
need
to
fill
and
it
should
be
restaurant
so
that
the
patio,
the
changes
to
the
front
with
the
with
the
in
the
elevation
with
the
block
facade
and
the
block
wall
in
front
the
patio
cover
the
little
little
pop-up
roof
on
the
patio
cover.
All
those
items
are
meant
to
add
different
materials,
colors
textures.
P
In
order
to
give
this
building
straight
uphill
and
we're
trying
to
use
the
building
as
a
backdrop
I
guess,
instead
of
instead
of
tearing
down
the
billion
building
or
coming
in
doing
a
massive
construction
project
that
may
or
may
not
be
successful,
once
you
find
out
your
costs
and
whatever
we've
all
seen
it
too.
Many
not
happen
too
many
times
we're
trying
to
work
with
what
is
there.
P
So
if
you
look
in
this
front
elevation,
we
actually
the
only
thing
that
changed,
which
really
fixed
some
of
the
massing
of
the
building
is
to
remove
the
top
36
inches
of
the
parapet
wall
on
all
three
sides.
From
the
first
floor
before
it
comes,
becomes
second
floor
and
add
back
steel
and
cable
railing
system,
the
wood
facing
above
the
drive-thru
is
remains
wood,
we'll
replace
it
with
something
more
attractive
and
paint
it
out
to
match
the
stucco,
but
but
it's
the
same
material.
P
So
the
the
real
additions
are
tying
the
building
together
by
taking
the
glass
of
the
front
doors
here
and
carrying
it,
been
carrying
it
around
the
corner
and
then
down
the
breezeway
6dt.
So
you
just
get
one.
You
know
repetitive
glass
pattern
versus
having
it
be
all
cut
up
and
right
now,
there's
stucco
curvature
here,
so
it'd
still
be
curved,
just
just
glass
we
did
propose.
P
P
Yes,
hello,
the
dark
color
is
pretty
extreme.
However,
the
most
of
what
you
see
on
the
downstairs
currently
is
already
dark:
anodized,
bronze
and
right
now
the
glass
is
heavily
tinted,
dark,
bronze.
So
all
you're
seeing
is
dark
anyway,
except
for
over
here
you,
the
glass
ends,
and
you
see
the
vault
exterior
and
we're
planning
on
we're
proposing
to
cover
that
in
a
screen
block
material.
So
it
isn't
until
there
was
some
few
planters
along
in
that
in
the
drive-through,
those
will
be
demoed
and
then
it
would
be
glass
on
the
outside.
P
P
This
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
the
upstairs
light
stucco
gets
clear,
anodized,
glass
and
with
it
with
all
the
dark,
glass
and
some
dark
downstairs,
but
it
it
returns
here.
So
from
this
leg
that
holds
up
the
elevated
portion
of
the
second
floor.
It
is
all
that
same
color,
so
so
this
piece
right
here
is
the
the
light
plaster
also
so
in
the
back.
P
This
is
what
I'm
talking
about
your
your
dark
color
would
be
from
this
datum
line
here
and
actually
tie
in
to
the
dark
bronze
windows
and
the
dark,
the
dark
bronze
aluminum.
So
it's
really
just
this
section
here
that
would
be
really
dark,
and
then
all
of
this
is
clear:
anodized,
aluminum,
clear,
glass
and
light.
P
P
Not
get
into
it
too
much,
not
turning
into
a
giant
construction
project,
we're
trying
to
make
it
beautiful,
we're
all
palm
springs
enthusiasts
here,
and
we
we
see
that
it
can
be
something,
but
it
it
has
to
be
that
thing
by
addition
versus
subtraction.
So
that's
that's
been
our
guiding
principle
create
a
an
amazing
spot
downstairs,
would
so
be
visitor
survey
and
local
surveying
and
really
give
it
a
vibe
and
then
and
then
the
upstairs
the
upstairs
concept.
P
The
reason
why
we
attack
and
attach
the
patio
and
the
outdoor
kitchen
is
because
my
company
employs
about
30
people
we'll
take
the
upstairs
space
for
now.
For
a
few
years,
however,
with
the
with
the
future
of
the
gig
economy
and
everybody
working
at
home
office,
space
is
not
going
to
be
in
a
premium
by
any
studies.
P
You
know
you
have
private
areas
and
communal
areas
and
it's
fun
and
we
can
use
it
for
a
few
years.
We
probably
can't
fill
it
all
the
way
now,
but
in
the
future,
maybe
we
will.
If
we
don't,
we
haven't
just
improved
and
spent.
You
know
the
better
part
of
a
million
dollars.
Building
up
this
upstairs
for
a
tenant
that
will
never,
we
don't
believe,
will
materialize.
N
All
fine,
just
I
think
we're
fine
I.
Think
the
only
thing
again
we
were
adding
the
3
foot
2
wall.
That
is
what
used
to
be
the
drive
way
and
canopy
that
went
back
to
the
ATM
when
it
was
a
bank.
So
that's
been
added
to
the
facade
as
well,
which
is
3
foot
too
high
with
the
decorative
block
that
goes
onto
a
cap.
N
E
D
Think
I
got
a
little
lost
in
the
finishes
on
the
front
of
the
building
and
where
the
dark
occurs
and
and
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
I
understood
that
when
you
said
I
thought
you
said
you
were
using
a
dr.
anodized
frame
on
the
lower
level
and
a
clear
on
the
upper.
But
I
also
thought.
You
said
that
you
were
using
a
dark
tinted
glass
on
the
lower
level
and
it
clear
on
the
upper
okay.
P
Let
me
clarify,
and
the
downstairs
is
currently
dark
glass
we
may
or
may
not
change
it
out
based
on
the
tenant
use.
So
so.
M
N
D
P
D
P
D
D
P
P
D
D
P
P
It
was
to
not
have
the
roof,
because
it
comes
out
a
good
like
four
feet
or
five
feet
away
from
the
face
of
the
building.
To
not
have
it
come
down
this
far,
but
we
just
were
trying
to
find
a
way
to
tie
these
two
city
pieces
of
the
building
back
together,
again,
okay
and
then
I
thought
down
here
between
down
here
and
up
here.
In
this,
we
could
kind
of
okay.
D
D
N
D
P
E
N
D
P
P
D
P
We
have
a
tenant
where
it
days
from
the
lease
and
I,
don't
think
it
never
would
be
ten
years
before
they
could
even
imagine
biting
off
more
than
what
they
have
done.
I
just
I
don't
want
a
link
building
overrun
with
one
tenant.
You
know
where
work
something
goes
wrong.
It's
the
whole
building
goes
down,
so
I
really
do
want
it
for
my
office.
Ok,
no!
No.
F
I'm
not
completely
clear,
I
I
understand
the
drive
through
you're,
taking
that
you're
converting
that
to
dining
space
outdoor
dining
space,
hard
ceiling
fans.
All
of
that
towards
tahquitz,
it
says
covered
terrace
is
that
additional
you're
adding
another
covered
Terrace
out
in
front
of
the
existing
driveway.
Your
any.
P
F
P
P
N
F
B
N
N
P
N
There's
one
stall
one
stall
and
then
the
other
two
I
think
are
two
stalls
but
we're
showing
that's
another
change
to
the
construction.
I,
don't
think
that
we've
spoken
about
is
where
there's
an
open
space
upstairs
we
were
filling
that
in
with
the
floor,
where
were
showing
the
two
new
restrooms
for
the
office
spaces
upstairs,
that
is
new
construction.
That's
currently
open.
G
N
P
So
the
tenant
that
we're
talking
to
has
does
an
act
at
night
three
shows,
and
so
they
need
them.
They
they
have
their
staff,
they
have
changing
rooms.
They'll
use
some
space
upstairs
at
night.
It's
really
they're
really
connected
together.
So
the
upstairs
after
you
have
the
bathrooms
on
and
with
the
kitchen
were
well
over
six
thousand
feet
up.
There
is
total
square
footage
grant.
So
I
was
just
trying
to
create
as
many
bathrooms
as
I
could.
E
G
J
J
M
N
And
essentially,
what's
existing
there
now
at
that
Terrace
on
the
upper
floor,
that's
about
a
three
foot,
six
high
parapet
wall
and
we're
bringing
that
down
to
where
it
would
be
four
inches
above
the
upper
floor
level
and
then
adding
an
open
rail
system
so
that
lightens
it
up.
It's
not
so
bulky
as
it
is
now.
I
P
So
we
have
about
40
feet,
east
to
west
on
that
roof,
and
then
you
know
we're
120
feet
long,
and
so
we
did
some.
We
did
some
siding
tests
with
people
down
on
the
sidewalk
and
and
I
placed
objects
up
to
36
inches
and
they
weren't
able
to
see
it
once
you
get
above
that,
then
they
were
able
to
see
it
from
the
sidewalk.
P
At
least
that's
what
I
plan
on
using
and
so
those
those
condensers
that
sit
outside
are
much
smaller
and
can
be
in
the
downstairs.
We
don't
you
know
without
the
tenant
or
a
submit
all
to
the
building
department.
We
don't
know
where,
but
we
fully
understand
that
we're
not
gonna
plant
giant
packaged
units
up
on
the
roof
and
for
all
to
see
so.
I
My
next
question:
if
I
understand
it
correctly
on
sheet1
point
2,
so
that
extension
of
the
overhang
comes
out
six
feet
11
inches
and
continues
parallel
with
Palm
Canyon
Drive
along
the
face
of
the
building
and
then
all
the
way
to
the
South
property
line
as
well.
How
does
that
interface
with
the
building
next
door?
Does
it
extend
beyond
the
building
next
door.
N
G
P
A
I
Again,
I'm
concerned
how
the
equipment
will
end
up
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
space
and
what
it's
actually
gonna
have
to
condition
and
I
think
that
would
be
important
to
see
on
some
type
of
roof
plan
or
upper
level
plan,
how
that's,
how
its
laid
out
and
how
it's
gonna
be
screened
and
and
also
how
these
this
proposed
linear
overhang
interfaces
with
the
adjacent
properties.
If
there's
a
way
to
indicate
on
the
plan,
you
know
the
outline
of
the
adjacent
building,
then
it's
overhanging,
the
sidewalk,
just
extend
the
drawing
woods.
It's.
C
J
A
E
G
So
I
guess
a
couple
things
I'm
struggling
with
is
while
the
building
is,
is
an
odd
building.
In
general,
it
kind
of
has
a
bit
of
a
for
lack
of
a
better
we're,
a
bit
of
a
brutalist
sense
to
it
and
I
feel
like
what
I'm
seeing
in
the
elevations
tend
to
just
flatten
it
out
and
make
it
look
like
a
very
nondescript
office
building.
G
So
as
I
look
at
the
existing,
if
you
can
pull
up
the
existing
elevations,
you
know
the
front
elevation
at
the
top
above.
The
walkway
has
a
kind
of
a
recessed
there's
some
thickness
in
that
wall.
That
I
think
you
could
play
with
to
give
it
a
little
more
character
in
the
front
as
well
down
below
it
has
the
indentions
with
the
little
wing
walls
that
come
in.
If,
if
you
could
set
back
the
glazing
to
the
back
edge
of
that,
then
I
think
you
get.
G
They
added
some
character
to
the
building,
I,
think
and
and
I
think
taking
those
off
and
replacing
it
with
a
flat
kind
of
a
very
linear,
flat
piece
kind
of
I
I.
Don't
think
it
achieves
the
same
goal,
so
I
think
you
should
I'd
like
to
see
you
look
at
playing
with
the
that
overhang
along
Palm
Canyon
that
maybe
undulated
a
bit,
so
it
gives
it
a
bit
more
character
and
follows
a
bit
more
closely
with
the
outline
of
the
building.
G
My
other
concern
with
the
the
terrace
is
that
you
know
I've
walked
under
that
a
million
times
to
go
to
Jake's,
and
it
already
feels
like
a
very
dank
corridor
as
you
walk
through
it
and
I
feel,
with
extending
at
all
the
way
to
Palm
Canyon.
It's
gonna
even
make
that
feeling
worse,
so
I'd
be
careful
in
in
how
that
space
is
gonna,
be
utilized,
and
if
it's
gonna
be
completely
filled
with
tables
and
better
lighting
under
there,
then
maybe
that's
a
good
thing.
I
would
look
at
instead
of
having
that
covered,
Terrace
completely
covered.
G
Maybe
we
pop
some.
You
know
some
holes
in
it
to
get
some
light
in
there,
because
I
think
it's
gonna
feel
really
really
dark
in
that
area
and
I
think
that's
probably
enough
for
now,
I,
like
the
idea
of
taking
the
parapet
down
and
lessening
that
volume
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
to
get
a
little
bit
more
of
an
elegant
as
much
as
you
can
on
the
on
the
Palm
Canyon
side.
D
I'm
pretty
much
an
agreement
with
the
other
comments.
I
also
want
to
say
that
I'm,
not
a
hundred
percent
comfortable,
yet
with
the
dark
band
of
a
first
floor
and
the
light
band
and
then
the
changing
of
the
the
frame
material
so
I
think
to
help
resolve
some
of
those
doubts.
It
would
be
that
I'd
like
to
have
you
come
back
with
something
with
a
color
rendering
three-dimensional
these.
These
were
really
actually
very
hard
to
read
and
I've
looked
at
plans
for
30-some
years.
So
thanks
I.
A
Would
echo
a
lot
of
the
comments
we've
been
made,
I
think
for
a
group
of
professionals
here
that
it
was
very
hard
for
us
to
understand
what
how
much
new
roof
is
going
in.
We
haven't
even
talked
about
the
posts
that
are
holding
it
up.
That
seemed
quite
under
scaled.
I
also
agree
with
Steve
that
the
feel
of
that
being
totally
covered
would
just
be
so
oppressive.
Just
standing
under
the
portion,
that's
two-story
now
is
is
not
a
pleasant
place
to
be,
and
then
I
also
questioned
that
it.
A
It
appears
to
me
that
you're
removing
all
of
the
stucco
wall
along
the
portion,
that's
facing
Palm
Canyon
and
that's
facing
the
ill
driveway
and
making
that
glass
and
then
I
hear
that
you
might
be
having
a
tenant.
That's
doing
entertainment
and
I,
really
fear
I,
don't
know.
If
we
all
remember
before
Lulu
was
in
that
space
there
was
a
nightclub
and
they
painted
all
the
windows
black
so
that
people
couldn't
see
in
and
it
was
so
oppressive
and
it
just
looks
so
cheap.
A
So
if
you
mean
I
love
the
concept
of
the
windows,
if
we're
looking
into
restaurant
tables
and
people
and
activity,
but
I'd,
be
a
fearful
if
that
had
to
be
darkened
for
privacy
and
along
with
member
Rotman
I'm
very
conflicted
about
of
you
described
it
as
having
it.
Look
like
two
different
buildings:
a
restaurant
on
one
level
and
an
office
on
the
other.
It
is
one
building
and
I
think
that
they
need
to
relate
to
each
other
and
have
more
of
a
cohesive,
feel
so
I
think.
A
What
we're
hearing
is
that
we'd
like
to
see
a
recent
metal
where
you
one
give
us
a
three-dimensional
drawing
so
in
a
better,
fully
labeled
roof
plan
so
that
we
can
see
where
that
new
roof.
I'd
also
like
to
see
on
the
roof
plan
of
the
second
floor,
where
that
new
equipment
is
going
to
be
going
and
what
sort
of
screening
wall
would
be
used
around
that
equipment?
And
when
we
talk
about
a
metal
fascia,
there
could
be
a
thousand
different
things.
A
A
F
A
D
G
It's
just
an
ICS
thing,
then
you
can
import
it
into
anything
right,
so
cuz,
every
time
I
get
it
I
read
through
my
email
and
then
I
forget
to
put
in
the
calendar
and
then
I'm
like
John's.
Like
hey,
don't
forget,
we
got
a
meeting
tomorrow,
oh
crap,
okay,
thank
you
for
reminding
me
we'll
see
if
we
can
do
that.
Thank
you.
I'd.
A
Like
to
make
a
comment
just
on
how
our
meetings
proceed,
I
think
that
if
we
can
stick
a
little
closer
to
the
initial
questions
of
staff,
purely
be
questions
of
staff,
about
technical
issues
and
not
talk
about
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
of
the
project
and
then
again
when
we're
asking
questions
of
the
applicant
purely
questions
about
how
their
process
went
and-
and
you
know
then-
certainly
there
would
be
some
more
questions
about.
Why
did
they
take
this
material
or
that?
B
Thing
I
gave
you
the
wrong
date.
I
talked
about
doing
a
joint
Planning,
Commission
AAC
training
session,
I,
think
I
said:
February
20th,
it's
actually
February
27th,
so
I
gave
you
the
wrong
date,
we'll
start
that
I
believe
around
11:00
a.m.
I.
Think
that
should
give
us
enough
time
to
get
through
the
training
session,
and
that
will
be
here
yeah
in
the
large
conference.
When
will
be
the
best
place
to
do
that,
so
can.