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From YouTube: City Council Meeting | May 26 2022
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Regular Meeting of the Palm Springs City Council, held May 26th, 2022
A
A
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
united
states
of
america
and
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands:
one
nation,
under
god,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
If
I
could
ask
everyone
to
continue
to
stand
since
we
last
met
as
a
city
council,
31
people
have
been
murdered
in
our
country,
but
in
two
different
acts
of
violence,
one
in
buffalo
new
york,
one
in
uvalde
texas,
in
yuvaldi
texas.
It
was
19
children
that
lost
their
lives.
31
families
will
never
be
the
same.
A
The
city
council
will
discuss
the
order
of
the
agenda
and
may
amend
the
order,
add
urgency,
items,
note,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
consent,
calendar
items
or
request
consent,
calendar
items
be
removed
for
a
separate
discussion.
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
for
the
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
items,
staff
or
council
member
would
like
removed
from
the
consent
calendar
for
separate
discussion
or
vote?
A
E
A
Our
next
item
is
public
testimony.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
city
council
on
non-public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
You
are
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you
are
speaking
about.
Please
note
that
testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing
and
general
public
comments
for
subjects
not
on
the
agenda
will
be
taken
later
in
the
evening
city
clerk.
Do
we
have
any
registered
speakers.
F
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
city,
council
and
city
manager
for
the
record,
I'm
rush
yuthi,
chairman
of
sonora
sunrise
neighborhood.
It's
been
my
pleasure
to
appear
before
you
tonight
and
to
commend
this
engineering
department
staff
who
conducted
studies
for
safety
of
numerous
people,
walking
running
cyclists
and
motorists
along
mystique
avenue
between
farrell
and
sunrise.
F
As
I
understand
it,
the
engineering
staff
has
recommended
a
three-way,
stop
sign
being
inserted
at
cerasos
and
mystique
avenue
and
reducing
the
speed
limit.
In
addition
to
the
safety
aspect,
the
residents
of
several
hoas
single-family
homes
mystique
will
be
greatly
benefited.
This
is
a
recommendation
before
you
tonight
and
I
urge
you.
I
really
do
urge
you
to
approve
this.
F
G
All
right,
ready,
hi,
my
name
is
brad
anderson.
I
currently
live
in
a
city
around
mirage.
I
wanted
to
talk
on
two
items
tonight
or
this
evening
item
one
one
a
and
that's
concerning
the
remote
meeting
or
really
the
non-participation
in-person
meeting
of
the
board
members
or
appointees
of
the
city
council.
I'm
I'm
flatly
opposed.
Yes,
yes,
this
mike
here
hi
brad
anderson
city
of
ransom
mirage.
I
wanted
to
speak
on
two
items
tonight,
item
11a
and
that's
concerning,
and
I
guess
ab361
that
the
city
has
implemented.
G
I'm
flatly
against
this
opposed
to
this,
and
I
think
the
city
should
get
back
to
work
and
get
to
get
to
get
well,
I'm
kind
of
flustered.
I
guess
the
law
is
being
immensely
abused
throughout
the
state
of
california
and
and
and
it's
fraud
when
you
really
think
about
it,
if
you're,
if
you're,
avoiding
the
public
by
not
coming
to
these
meetings
in
person,
because
you
had
a
closed
session
meeting
earlier
today,
remotely
only
which
is
odd,
and
then
you
have
city
council
meetings
here
so.
H
G
I'm
opposed
to
that
and
I
want
to
speak
on
3
three
c:
two,
that's
concerning
just
a
rewrite
of
some
of
them
or
amending
a
lot
of
the
city,
military
codes
concerning
administrative
citations
and
fines,
and
and
it's
just
a
gross
overreach
out
from
the
city
to
impact.
What's
going
to
negatively
impact
anybody
that
the
city
cites-
and
this
is,
I
can
make
examples
but
to
just
read
through
it
yourself.
G
F
Hello:
everyone,
my
name
is
charlie
irvin,
I'm
a
member
of
the
desert,
highland
gateway,
community
action
association
in
the
desert,
highland
community.
I'm
also
a
planning
commissioner,
here
with
the
city
of
palm
springs,
and
today
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
3c
with
the
abatement
for
me
as
a
resident,
I'm
also
a
long
community
member.
I
think
that
this
is
something
that's
very
dangerous
that
we
are
going
down
as
a
city
we've
already
had
our
community
and
our
city
deal
with
covet
19..
F
Now
we
have
other
issues
that
are
being
added
to
losing
our
homes,
possibly
as
well
as
I've
seen
here
on
some
of
the
items
that
are
here,
you
guys
will
be
removing
the
discussion
from
the
attorney
with
the
communities.
That's
something
that
I
think
is
very
dangerous.
There's
other
items
that
are
there.
F
I
just
think
that
this
change
and
these
sudden
changes
will
affect
our
our
city
and
our
residents,
and
I
hope
that
you
guys
really
consider
to
make
an
adjustment
and
do
something
more
like
being
proactive
with
providing
the
community
with
different
types
of
things,
such
as
giving
programs
to
help
build.
I
mean
clean
up
your
homes,
as
well
as
other
things
to
clean
up
yards
before
we
start
to
take
properties.
Thank
you.
I
We
have
a
lot
of
elderly
residents
who
are
on
fixed
incomes,
we're
dealing
with
record
high
inflation
as
well
as
rising
cost
of
living.
So
we
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
get
in
compliance
before
residents
receive
fines.
We
want
to
work
with
non-profits
such
as
habitat
habitat
for
humanity
to
hopefully
bring
residents
up
to
code.
Maybe
even
do
some
community
cleanup
days
or
provide
dumpsters
to
residents.
I
Our
community
is
against
this
ordinance
in
its
current
state,
and
we
urge
the
council
to
consider
adopting
the
ordinance
to
not
consider
adopting
the
ordinance
at
this
time
and
also
just
want
to
express
our
support
for
the
speed,
cushions
and
gateway
estates
as
well.
Thanks
for
your
time
and
consideration.
B
F
F
B
F
F
J
J
So
I'm
so
happy
that
this
is
finally
on
the
agenda
to
get
something
that
actually
works
and
is
aesthetically,
pleasing
and
highlights
the
entire
surrounding
of
of
the
the
bahia
and
or
the
alluvial
fan.
That's
so
predominant
throughout
the
city.
It
also
leads
to
one
of
our
premier
new
developments
called
desert.
Palisades
up
there
and
staff
has
already
spent,
I
think
in
2016..
J
I
could
be
wrong
on
that
date.
They
spent
like
23
thousand
dollars,
actually
designing
the
roundabouts.
They
were
presented
to
the
neighborhood,
the
neighborhood
gracefully
accepted
those
roundabouts,
but
they
were
put
on
hold
for
a
variety
of
reasons
from
council.
So
now
is
the
time
to
do
it.
We
have
the
funding
for
it
and
I
highly
suggest
the
roundabouts
for
racket
club
and,
if
you
don't
think,
that's
possible
absolutely
the
chicanes,
but
those
also
need
to
be
favorable
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists
as
we
go
along
the
process.
A
C
A
D
D
I
do
think
that
the
city
has
some
interest
in
screening
the
view
of
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
from
the
park
and
the
pickleball
courts
there,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
if
staff
had
a
recommendation
in
their
conversations
with
the
community
about
what
might
work
that
wouldn't
impact
pickleball
playing,
but
could
maybe
be
you
know,
put
on
the
side
of
the
wastewater
treatment
plan
of
the
fence
or
some
other
type
of
screening
that
wouldn't
be
a
wall.
Thank
you.
H
And
there
was
a
decision
made
to
move
forward
with
constructing
a
block
wall
so
that
the
black
wall
would
one
shield
the
pickleball
players
and
actually
provide
some
sort
of
protection
from
the
odor.
But
it
really
it
was
something
that
was
decided
and
staff
moved
forward
with
the
design
and
bidding
the
project
and
awarding
the
project.
H
Once
we
did
put
the
project
out
to
bid
the
community,
it
was
understood
really
from
the
greater
community
that
they
really
did
not
want
pick
the
wall
to
to
be
constructed
because
it
posed
a
danger
or
someone
playing
pickleball
could
actually
hit
the
wall
and
get
hurt
and
it
really
wasn't
going
to
pose
or
block
enough
of
the
odor
from
coming
from
the
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
So
I
think,
based
on
all
this
information,
the
city
took
a
step
back.
H
H
So
I
can
answer
any
questions.
The
first
one
question
really
was:
can
the
city
work
to
shield
the
pickle
from
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
from
the
pickleball
courts
without
building
a
wall,
and
we
could
explore
options,
screening,
maybe
putting
hedges
or
something
between
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
the
actual
fence?
The
one
thing
to
note
is
right:
adjacent
to
that
fence
is
a
major
storm
drain
line,
so
we
there
wouldn't
be
any
type
of
heavy
construction
that
would
be
allowed.
H
D
K
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
This.
This
issue
actually
came
up
when
I
was
campaigning
and-
and
it
came
forward
through
staff,
because
it
was
just
this
constant
question
of.
Why
do
we
have
to
see
it?
It's
ugly?
It
doesn't
beautify
our
park,
so
I
agree
with
council
member
hostage
and
that
it
would
be
nice
to
actually
be
able
to
follow
through.
With
that,
I
understand
the
block
wall
wasn't
going
to
work.
K
L
A
M
This
is
brought
to
you
on
part
of
staff
and
also
palm
springs
to
serve
the
disposal
service
who
services
our
residential
and
commercial
waste
disposal
accounts
in
terms
of
this
process.
This
is
an
annual
process,
that's
established,
and
it's
established
pursuant
to
the
palm
springs
municipal
code
as
well
as
california
state
law.
M
As
of
april
22nd
of
this
year,
there
were
743
delinquent
accounts
that
were
identified.
Just
to
give
you
a
point
of
comparison.
Last
year
we
had
over
a
thousand
delinquent
accounts,
so
in
this
year's
number
of
accounts,
it's
less
than
what
we
had
last
year
in
terms
of
the
notification
process
and
the
public
hearing
that
is
required,
both
under
the
municipal
code
and
state
law,
we
sent
out
public
notices,
as
is
our
practice
in
both
english
and
spanish.
M
M
760-327-1351,
so
again,
there
is
still
time
for
those
who
would
wish
to
make
payment
and
not
be
on
the
lean
list.
Also
just
as
a
point
of
information,
there
are
some
customers
who
prefer
to
actually
have
their
fees
paid
through
the
lien
process,
so
we
do
have
a
number
of
regulars
who
are
on
that
list
every
year.
M
That
concludes
my
presentation
this
evening.
We
do
have
the
public
hearing
this
evening
for
anyone
who
received
the
notice
who
wants
to
protest
the
lien.
We
also
have
representatives
of
palm
springs
disposal
service.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
this
process
or
the
delinquent
accounts.
Thank
you.
A
A
Next
item
is
to
be
a
public
hearing
to
consider
an
appeal
by
george
youssef
of
the
palm
springs
car
wash
concerning
the
planning
commission's
decision
to
deny
a
conditional
use
permit
to
alter
hours
for
off-premises
alcohol
sales
located
at
300.
North
indian
canyon
drive
I'd
like
to
ask
for
a
staff
report.
Please.
M
M
The
applicant
has
a
conditional
use
in
place
for
the
car
wash
gas
station
and
convenience
store
to
allow
the
sales
of
alcohol
in
the
convenience
store.
When
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
alcohol
sales
was
approved,
it
did
include
limitation
on
the
hours
of
operation,
limiting
the
alcohol
sales
to
6
a.m.
To
12
midnight,
the
applicant
filed
a
request
to
amend
the
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
the
sales
of
alcohol
up
until
2
a.m,
which
is
consistent
with
state
law
and
is
allowable
by
the
alcoholic
beverage
control
through
the
state
of
california.
M
M
Other
than
the
abc
restrictions
that
are
already
in
place,
secondly,
relative
to
the
alcohol
sales
here
at
the
service
station
and
car
wash,
there
are
requirements
in
the
code
relative
to
security
measures.
Most
importantly,
it
does
require
that
they
have
video
surveillance,
that's
available
for
the
police
department
to
review.
M
M
As
I
had
indicated,
the
car
wash
is
located
at
300,
north
indian
canyon,
at
the
intersection
of
north
indian
canyon
and
east
damato
road.
The
actual
convenience
store
where
the
alcohol
sales
occur
is
approximately
a
thousand
square
feet.
It
sits
to
the
east
side
of
the
site
is
located
approximately
75
feet
back
from
indian
canyon
and
then
the
alcohol
sales,
as
I
had
indicated,
are
just
within
that
1
000
square
foot
space.
M
M
J
M
J
M
D
M
D
M
Certainly,
under
the
retail
entertainment
office
category
of
the
section
14
specific
plan,
as
the
name
implies
it
does
allow
for
a
variety
of
commercial
uses.
Retail
is
one
of
those
which
is
a
component
that
we
would
typically
see
on
indian
canyon.
It
does
also
allow
for
entertainment
uses
as
we
look
at
the
expansion
of
the
tribe's
facilities.
M
Those
could
also
extend
out
to
indian
canyon
and
then
the
final
component
of
that
is
office
uses,
and
so
it
does
allow
a
mixture
of
those
uses.
What
is
perhaps
unique
is
that
this
car
wash
business
has
been
established
for
quite
some
time
as
and
was
in
place
before
the
amendment,
the
2014
amendment
to
the
section
14
specific
plan,
and
so
while
it
might
not
be
absolutely
consistent
in
terms
of
entertainment
or
things
like
that,
that
is
talked
about
in
the
section
14
specific
plan.
D
Thank
you.
I
think
you
just
said
what
I
was
going
to
ask.
So
staff
had
initially
found
that
the
use,
even
the
requested
use,
was
consistent
with
the
general
plan.
Yes,
that's
correct
and
did
staff
make
any
findings
or
recommended
findings.
Sorry
recommended
findings
that
the
use
would
be
detrimental
to
uses
or
futures.
M
While
we
do
evaluate
alcohol
sales
seriously
as
part
of
the
planning
staff,
we
did
look
at
the
security
measures
that
are
in
place
number
one.
They
do
have
their
video
camera
system
in
place
number
two,
their
commitment
for
having
a
security
patrol
available
and
based
on
those
factors.
We
found
that
the
public
health
and
welfare
could
be
supported
in
terms
of
our
recommendations,
and
so
it
was
based
on
those
measures
that
we
had
recommended
approval
of
it.
D
M
D
M
In
terms
of
retail
outlets
in
the
reo
category,
I
can't
think
of
any
the
others
that
sell
until
2
a.m
are
located
outside
of
section
14
and
not
specifically
adjacent
to
this
in
terms
of
alcohol
sales
at
the
casino.
I
guess
that's
the
nearest
location,
I'm
assuming
I
quite
honestly,
don't
know
I'm
assuming
that
they
sell
alcohol
all
night.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
the
the
tribe's
limitations
are
in
terms
of
alcohol
sales,
but
that
would
be
the
closest
one
that
I
can
think
of
other
than
that
retail
outlets.
D
D
K
M
K
M
A
Flynn
a
couple
of
questions
most
of
mine
have
already
been
asked,
but
remind
me
if
I'm
correct
up
until
midnight,
customers
can
walk
into
the
store
and
purchase
alcohol
or
any
other
product
pay
for
it
at
the
register
and
then
leave
and
then
at
midnight.
Do
they
stop
allowing
anyone
to
enter
the
store.
M
M
A
M
J
E
J
N
A
If
there
are
no
other
questions
for
staff
at
this
time,
I
would
like
to
open
the
public
hearing.
The
applicant
will
have
up
to
five
minutes
to
provide
their
testimony
and
the
public
is
invited
to
speak
on
this
public
hearing
item
for
up
to
two
minutes.
If
there
are
other
speakers,
the
applicant
will
be
invited
to
provide
a
rebuttal
of
up
to
two
minutes.
O
O
O
As
everybody
knows
now,
higher
costs,
staffing
and
rent
I
pay
rent
to
a
tribal
member
and
the
rent
gone
up
a
little
bit
over
what
we
expect.
The
lighting.
The
lighting
has
been
improved
big
time,
I'm
not
sure.
If
any
of
the
member
from
the
planning
commission
visited
my
site,
which
is
if
they
go
at
night,
they'll
see
it
lit
up
very
nice,
the
working
through
the
window.
We
can
work
with
the
city,
we
can
hire
an
extra
person
and
try
to
extra
staff
member
and
try
to
open
up
till
two
o'clock.
O
That's
not
a
big
issue.
We
can
work.
We
have
a
very
good
record
working
with
the
city
staff.
I
have
improved
the
business
in
the
past
three
years.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
guys
recognize
it
from
what
it
used
to
be
and
what
it
is
now
the
safety
from
the
police
department.
They
can
tell
you
that
they
cleared
us
to
open
to
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
O
A
O
O
O
O
J
Thank
you
for
the
gas
station
further
north,
the
historic
gas
station.
If
I'm
correct
a
lot
of
us
use
that
gas
station
your
prices
are
very
competitive
in
town.
So
that's
a
good
thing
in
your
20
you've
only
known
the
car
wash
for
three
years.
You
said
all
right
three
years
and
do
you
have
or
would
you
be
opposed
to
any
improvements
in
lighting
and
facade
and
any
of
that
type
of
stuff,
not.
J
It
seems
a
little
bit
like
I'm
incarcerated
than
it
does
going
into
you
know,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
palm
springs,
at
least
the
efforts
that
I'm
with
like
cannabis
and
everything
is
to
normalize
them
and
make
them
open
and
make
them
friendly
and
all
of
a
sudden
we're
closing
it
all
down,
and
it
just
seems
to
not
have
that
same
energy
of
welcomeness
that
I
think
we're
trying
so
hard
to
get
here.
So
can
you
talk
a
little
about
why
we.
O
Would
love
to,
but
lately
we've
been
getting
some
out-of-towners
that
they're
not
very
friendly,
so
we
try
to
the
locals.
They
get
in
no
problem
and,
like
I
said
we're
going
to
try
to
hire
an
extra
staff
member
to
be
able
to
not
to
leave
one
cashier
through
kovit.
It
was
kind
of
a
little
bit
hard
for
all
the
businesses
to
even
find
employees
so
we're
trying.
If
we
find
we,
we
actually
so
far
we're
getting
lucky
to
have
an
extra
member
now
and
we
we
can
open.
O
O
A
B
F
F
O
A
A
The
planning
commission,
in
wanting
to
have
a
policy
that
would
treat
all
retail
establishments
consistently
that
are
similarly
situated,
is
something
that
we
should
very
seriously
look
at.
I
don't
know
what
that
policy
necessarily
should
be.
I'm
not
sure
if
closing
having
a
universal
closing
at
some
hour
prior
to
2
a.m,
is
necessary
or
appropriate
or
not,
but
I
I
do
think
all
retail
outlets
should
have
the
same
treatment
unless
there
is
a
specific
finding
that
a
location
has
proven
to
be
problematic
or
is
likely
to
be
problematic.
K
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
I'll,
I'll,
tell
you
I
the
when
I
first
read
this.
I
thought:
no,
why
would
why
would
we
keep
it
open
until
two,
but
I
that's
the
beauty
of
a
public
hearing
is
that
we
get
to
hear
from
everyone
on
this
and
and
really
think
it
through
in
real
time.
I
think
it
it
makes
sense
to
allow
him.
K
You
know
to
be
open
until
2am,
because
we
do
have
other
places
that
are
open
late,
the
improvement
of
the
lighting
and
the
willingness
of
the
applicant
to
work
with
staff
on
other
improvements
as
necessary.
I
think,
is
fine
with
me.
I
I
appreciate
that
you're
willing
to
open
up
your
your
store
instead
of
using
the
window.
I
think
the
the
walk-up
window
is.
K
I
think
that's
what
gives
people
a
little
bit
of
the
pause
and
not
wanting
to
approve
it?
I
do
appreciate
the
difficulty
with
staffing.
I
understand
that
and
the
safety
concerns
I'd
like
to
hear
from
my
other
council
members
on
whether
or
not
the
window
is,
is
a
problem
or
not
for
you
all,
but
I
I
am
inclined
to
approve,
allow
for
this
use
until
2am.
A
N
Yeah
sure
mayor
there
was
a
study
done
in
gainesville
florida,
where
they
were
having
a
series
of
robberies
at
convenience
stores,
mostly
liquor
stores,
and
one
of
the
things
they
noticed
is
that
by
parking,
their
vehicles
in
front
of
the
liquor
store
the
employees
cars,
as
well
as
having
two
clerks,
that
they
were
able
to
substantially
reduce
the
number
of
robberies
in
that
city.
So,
as
a
policy
would
be
great
for
liquor
stores,
especially
once
they're
ice
fairly
isolated,
to
have
two
clerks
working
during
those
prime
hours.
D
Thank
you.
I
support
the
appeal
of
the
decision
of
the
planning
commission
and
I
do
think
that
the
cup
should
be
great,
should
be
granted
just
looking
and
bringing
us
to
the
findings
that
the
planning
commission
made
and
then
that
we
are
supposed
to
make
in
terms
of
those
findings
that
are
in
the
staff
report.
But
looking
at
the
use,
if
it's
necessary
or
desirable
for
the
development
of
the
community,
is
in
harmony
with
the
various
elements
or
objectives
of
the
general
plan
staff,
opined
that
it
is
in
their
opinion.
D
D
Who
does
this
every
day,
and
I
appreciate
the
fairness
that
the
applicant
has
said
that
you
know
I
personally
would
rather
spend
my
dollars
in
a
local
business
in
palm
springs
than
a
large
corporate
chain,
and
if
the
large
corporate
chains
are
able
to
operate
and
sell
alcohol
till
2
a.m,
it's
only
fair
that
our
small
businesses
are
able
to
as
well.
We
kept
hearing
that
from
businesses
time
and
time
again
in
the
pandemic,
the
way
that
the
state
rules
really
often
benefited
big
big
business
instead
of
and
harms
local
business.
D
J
I
think
the
applicant
thank
you
for
coming.
Thank
you.
For
speaking,
I
I
very
much
appreciate
that.
I
think
the
applicant
is
willing
to
work
on
the
lighting
plan
and
I
would
say
we
want
to
work
in
that
lighting
plan
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
police
department,
as
well
as
our
planning
department
or
even
a
subcommittee
of
the
planning
commission
or
arc
it
doesn't
matter
as
well
as
some
other
improvements
to
the
site.
J
You
know
it's
a
little
disconnect
from
the
wonderful
awning
at
the
gas
station
next
door,
which
is
very
mid-century,
so
lighting
and
other
improvements
I
think,
closing
the
window
and
having
the
store
actually
open
with
two
people.
I
think
his
willingness
to
do
all
that
overcomes
most
of
the
concerns
that
the
planning
commission
expressed.
So
if
we
add
those
conditions
in
which
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
publicly
I'd
be
happy
to
support
the
motion
to
to
allow
allow
it
to
occur.
A
K
Now
I
I'm
more
interested
in
offering
the
facade
improvements
as
suggestions
to
to
do
that,
and
I'm
also
fine,
if,
if
temporarily,
while
he's
hiring
an
additional
staff
member
to
allow
the
business
to
run
until
2am,
I
I
did
hear
mr
yosef
say
that
it's
been
tough
to
to
hire
staff
and
I'd
in
in
light
of
seeing
how
difficult
that
is
for
many
businesses
and
small
businesses.
I
don't
want
him
to
wait
too
long.
A
J
It
you
know
the
the
entrance
to
this
is
small.
It's
set
way
back
from
the
street.
I
think
we've
heard
both
from
the
applicant
and
the
police
chief
there's
could
be
some
activity,
that's
occurring
back
there
that
we
don't
want.
I
think
it's
best
to
get
it
up
front.
It
shouldn't
be
that
hard
to
do
to
get
it
going
and
you
know
opening
it
until
2
a.m.
I
you
know,
I
don't
you
know
having
two
people.
I
don't
think
it
should
be
a
problem,
so
I
don't
see
a
reason
to
defer
it.
F
J
D
So,
madam
mayor,
if
I
can
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor,
I'd
love
to
see
if
there's
a
second
and
call
for
the
vote,
I'm
happy
to
discuss
those
in
more
of
a
discussion,
but
I
don't
accept
council
member
woods
as
friendly
amendments
to
my
motion.
So
unless
mayor
you'd
like
to
craft
a
motion
that
you
think
would
you
know
get
us
there
or
another
council
member,
but
just
wanted
to
note
that
I
I
think
I
disagree
with
those
requirements
and
just
having
them
be
recommendations.
A
A
I'm
very
intrigued
by
the
comments
of
the
police
chief,
that
having
two
individuals
on
site
is
something
that
enhances
security,
but
I
don't
want
to
just
jump
off
immediately
and
start
making
an
imposition
of
that
as
a
rule
without
going
through
appropriate
study.
It
sounds
at
face
value,
absolutely
appropriate,
but
we've
made
mistakes
before
where
we
thought
things
sounded
really
good
and
then,
when
we
study
them,
we
find
out
there's
a
layer
that
we
were
missing.
So
I'd
like
to
go
through
that
due
process
this
time.
J
J
I
just
I
want
to
say
that
if
that's
going
to
be
the
motion,
I
can't
support
it
because
my
point
would
be
then:
don't
have
it
open
to
two
in
the
morning.
You
know
close
it
at
12..
If
there's
going
to
be
problems
after
midnight
that
we
can't
solve
either
with
two
people
or
lighting
or
closing
the
window,
why
do
why
keep
it
until
two
there,
when,
when
there's
no
real
neces,
there's
no
need
for
it.
J
K
I'd
like
to
second,
the
motion:
that's
on
the
floor,
but
I
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
part
of
the
reason
that
mr
youssef
is
here
is
because
he
said
that
it
he
needed
his.
There
was
increase
in
cost
and
that's
why
he's
staying
open
until
2
a.m?
Prior
to
that
there
there
wasn't
that
same
need,
so
that
to
me
that
that
is
the
compelling
need
for
why
it
needs
to
stay
open,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
it's
walk
up
or
or
fully
open,
see.
I'd
like
to
second
that
motion.
A
E
M
The
recommendations
relative
to
the
facade
improvements
were
recommended
by
council
member
woods.
I
don't
believe
council
member
hostage
included
those
in
the
original
motion
and
so
as
it
stood.
The
original
motion
was
for
approval
of
the
amendment
to
the
conditional
use
permit
and
approving
the
appeal,
and
it
is
without
any
additional
conditions.
D
D
D
I
do
just
want
to
flag
that
there
are
so
this
is
just
for
retail,
but
the
state
might
be
changing
how
late
they
allow
some
alcohol
sellers
bars
and
restaurants
to
stay
open,
and
so
it
might
change
after
that,
depending
on
how
broad
of
categories
you
want
to
assess.
So
if
I
could
ask
council
member
garner,
do
you
have
an
interest
in
that
and
then,
if
you
do,
then
we
can
ask
staff
for
that
response.
K
D
C
My
first
suggestion
would
be,
since
the
appeal
was
fairly
narrow
in
scope
that
this
might
be
an
appropriate
subject
for
future
meetings
in
terms
of
workload,
it's
really
depends
on
the
level
of
engagement.
If
we
were
going
to
consult
community
members
and
do
the
kinds
of
things
we
usually
like
to
do
when
we're
considering
a
holistic
policy,
that
would
be
something
where
we
would
probably
look
to
defer
something
else
within
our
work
plan.
C
A
K
Thank
you
mayor,
so
my
this
is
johnny
arendondo,
who
has
been
working
with
me
and
he's
going
to
introduce
juice
himself
a
little
in
a
little
bit
but
johnny,
and
I
have
been
talking
about
how
we
further
engage
youth
and
young
adults
in
to
our
city
business.
And
how
do
we
get
them
to
want
to
come
and
work
for
the
city
of
palm
springs?
K
So
he
is
going
to
present
something
that
he's
been
working
on.
And
what
I
want
to
make
very
clear
to
to
everyone
is
that
johnny
drafted
this
staff
report,
and
I
think
I
changed
two
things.
Two
minor
things,
and
so
I've
just
really
been
impressed
with
his
work
ethic
and
his
ability
to
take
our
our
larger
conversations
and
condense
them
into
this
report
and
this.
This
presentation
that
he's
going
to
give
and-
and
I
know
that
we
don't
normally
need
to
bring
something
like
this
before
council.
K
L
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen
of
the
council
and
staff,
my
name
is
johnny
rodondo
and
I
am
a
senior
at
california
state
university,
san
bernardino
pond
desert
campus.
Today
I
will
be
presenting
the
lunchtime
program
for
youth
and
young
adults
that
aims
to
promote
the
opportunities
that
are
available
here
in
the
city
of
palm
springs.
L
L
L
L
Furthermore,
the
city
lacks
an
established
channel
to
communicate
with
these
new
graduates.
So
often
they
are
unaware
of
the
opportunities
that
are
being
offered.
For
example,
when
I
applied
to
be
an
intern
for
mayor
pro
tem,
it
was
because
it
was
my
own
task
to
look
into
my
career
center
and
look
at
their
no
postings,
and
if
students
are
not
diligent
and
looking
into
those
postings,
they'll
miss
an
opportunity
like
this
one.
L
L
L
So
these
meetings
in
order
to
be
successful,
need
to
be
promoted,
and
we
have
received
confirmation
from
career
counselor,
oscar
fonseca,
who
works
at
the
california
state
university,
san
bernardino
palm
desert
campus
career
center,
that
we
will
be
able
to
send
out
mass
emails
to
current
and
graduating
students
so
that
they
can
be.
They
can
be
made
aware
of
these
opportunities.
L
These
meetings
are
scheduled
to
take
place
in
palm
springs
high
school
in
fall
2022.
They
were
initially
scheduled
for
summer
2022,
but
now
that
we
have
more
time,
we
are
guaranteed
an
audience
and
we
no
longer
have
to
rely
on
the
willingness
of
the
individual
to
go
to
these
meetings
over
summer
and,
if
possible.
Ideally,
these
meetings
will
be
recorded
and
published
online
so
that
individuals
who
may
not
fall
into
the
youth
and
young
adult
demographic
can
still
look
into
them
and
it'll
also
be
for
the
occasional
student
that
doesn't
show
up
to
school.
L
Our
greatest
challenge,
right
now
is
determining
which
city
departments
will
participate.
However,
because
we
have
until
fall
now
we
have
the
opportunity
to
get
as
many
confirmations
as
possible
before
then.
Lastly,
the
initial
cost
estimate
will
be
composed
entirely
of
catering
options
that
will
not
exceed
five
thousand
dollars.
Sufficient
funding
is
available.
In
the
current
year,
fiscal
in
the
current
fiscal
year
city
manager,
budget
and
below,
I
have
attached
a
table
with
local
catering
options
that
will
be
provided
at
these
meetings.
This
concludes
my
presentation.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
J
Welcome
aboard
johnny.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
It's
great
to
see
that
just
you
gave
some
statistics
which
were
valley
wide,
and
this
is
actually
being
targeted
for
palm
springs
residents.
That's
right!
So,
okay!
So
this
is,
you
know,
even
though
we're
doing
advertising
psas,
I
think
I
saw
on
page
three
is-
is
wide
it's
really
for
our
residents
to
go
to
this
program.
L
J
K
Just
to
add
on
to
that
council
member
woods,
so
the
idea
would
be
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
doing
it
in
person
here
in
palm
springs
locally
for
the
palm
springs
high
school
students,
but
then
also
making
sure
that
it's
broadcast
and
connected
to
our
university
since
cal
state
san
bernardino
palm
desert
campus
is
our
only
four-year
institution
in
the
valley.
So
that's
why
I
would
have
a
larger
reach
valley
wide
in
that
sense.
A
My
understanding
is
that
at
our
high
school
we
have
students
who
are
palm
springs
residents
and
students
who
are
not
palm
springs
residents.
I
don't
think
it
would
be
a
good
signal
for
us
to
take
and
say
we're
setting
up
a
program.
That's
only
going
to
be
available
for
access
by
those
who
live
within
our
city,
most
particularly
when
we
have
students
who
are
here
at
our
school,
but
I
I
know
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
target
our
our
residents
as
much
as
we
can
possibly
do.
So.
A
K
If
I
can
just
do
what
I
will
motion
to
approve
this
item,
but
I
do
want
to
just
make
one
additional
comment.
You
know
part
of
the
reason
that
this
came
forward
is
because
we
have
been
hiring
a
lot
of
staff
lately,
obviously
in
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
the
what
we've
seen
is
that
some
of
our
staff
members
left
because
they
got
jobs
closer
to
where
they
live,
and
we've
also
been
hiring
a
lot
of
people
from
outside
of
the
city.
K
And
while
we
love
having
the
perspective
of
new
people,
there
also
can
be
a
challenge
when
somebody
finds
a
place,
that's
closer
to
their
their
home
and
they
don't
have
to
commute
anymore.
So
this
is
just
an
opportunity
also
to
enhance
our
economic
development
within
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
the
larger
coachella
valley,
and
my
hope
too,
is
that
that
this
can
go
well
and
that
maybe
other
cities
can
also
implement
similar
programs,
because
I
know
we're
all
facing
the
similar
issues
of
of
hiring
local
staff
into
our
cities.
D
Thank
you
so
much,
I'm
sorry!
I
just
wanted
to
flag.
I
couldn't
see
the
presentation
or
see
somehow
psctv
was
dark
while
you're
presenting
so
I
know
I
spoke
to
mayor
pro
tem
a
few
days
ago
about
using
local
businesses
and
when
you're
purchasing
lunches.
It
would
be
great
to
see
our
taxpayer
dollars
go
back
into
our
own
community
and
not
to
large
corporations
that
are
based
here.
D
D
L
L
D
A
A
N
N
The
agenda
item
is
a
follow-up
to
a
public
hearing
held
on
may
12
2022
city
council
meeting
regarding
the
adoption
of
an
ordinance
authorizing
a
military
use
policy,
as
required
by
assembly.
Bill
481
during
the
meeting
council,
requested
that
the
proposed
policy
include
additional
clarification
on
the
use
of
military
equipment
by
allied
law
enforcement
agencies
within
the
palm
city
of
palm
springs.
N
The
council
also
requested
the
policy
provide
additional
detail
related
to
deployment
and
use
of
military
equipment,
including
armored
vehicles
and
gas
by
members
of
the
palm
springs
police
department.
The
department
is
recommending
the
city
council
support
and
approve
its
inventory
of
specialized
equipment
and
adopt
a
military
equipment
use
policy
by
ordinance,
as
required
by
ab481.
N
Yes,
it
was
mayor
middleton
and
it's
very
clear
in
our
policy
that,
when
they're
operating
in
the
city
with
our
folks,
they
must
abide
by
our
policy,
and
if
our
people
are
operating
other
places,
then
we
have
still
abide
by
our
policy,
including
the
use
of
equipment.
I
do
need
to
point
out
that
there
is
one
caveat
and
that
is
working
with
the
city
manager
and
in
the
event
of
a
significant
natural
disaster
or
tactical
emergency.
N
D
D
So
I
think
you
had
flagged
that
that
might
be
a
practical
concern
for
officers
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
you
what
you
need
and
that
it'll
work
on
the
ground
in
case.
One
of
these
situations
happen.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
think
through.
You
know
our
officers
being
responsible
for
knowing
our
policies
for
this
equipment
and
how
it
might
work
with
coordinating
jurisdictions
or
in
other
cities
or
jurisdictions.
So
can
you
just
walk
us
through
that?
This
is
your
recommendation
or
are
there
changes
that
you're
that
you
would
recommend.
N
N
For
instance,
if
a
child
is
lost
on
the
mountain
in
122
degrees
heat,
we
need
resources
to
get
up
there
and
find
that
child
that
we
don't
currently
have
on
the
list
before
you.
But
I
would
feel
comfortable
speaking
with
the
city
manager
and
being
able
to
deploy,
for
instance,
a
drone
to
look
for
the
child
same
thing
with.
N
If
there
was
a
significant
event,
such
as
a
you
know,
as
we
had
here
in
palm
springs,
and
you
know
with
two
officers
down,
we
need
arm
different
pieces
of
armored
equipment
that
we
don't
currently
have.
I
feel
comfortable
deploying
that
talking
city
manager
about
that
and
then
reporting
out
to
council
to
make
sure
it's
within
your
expectations
for
the
city.
D
E
Yeah,
yes,
thank
you
councilmember
holsage,
and
thank
you
for
contacting
me
ahead
of
time,
so
I
was
able
to
to
take
a
look
at
this.
I
did
look
at
the
language
and
I
feel
that
it
would
be
appropriate.
I
think,
like
law
enforcement
agencies,
these
days
are,
are
prepared
to
be
nimble
enough
to
be
familiar
with
one
another's
policies
with
regard
to
this
type
of
equipment.
I
think
it
would
adequately
protect
the
city
from
a
liability
perspective.
D
Thank
you
and
then
chief.
I
have
just
one
more
question,
I
think
for
you
or
for
the
city
attorney.
So
I
know
that
some
organizations
have
raised
issues
with
the
language
you
know,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
saying
that
the
intent
of
ab481
was
really
to
specify
use,
but
also
knowing
that
we
need
flexibility
and
unforeseen
circumstances.
D
D
You
know
for
people
peacefully
exercising
their
first
amendment
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
including
but
not
limited
to,
and
if
we
need
that
language
and
the
authorized
use
of
all
of
this
equipment
or
if
we
could
use
something
like
you
know,
comparable
situations
too
or
something
that
doesn't
literally
include
everything
because,
including
but
not
limited,
to
means
everything
right
and
it
might
be
too
expansive
for
what
ab-481
intense.
So
could
you
just
give
us
your
thoughts
there
about
what
you
would
recommend
for
authorized
use.
N
You'll
see
under
section
four
under
subsection
c
under
authorized
use.
It
said
it
says,
pspd
policies
towards
the
end
of
the
authorized
use
paragraph
a
remain
in
effect
to
include
but
not
limited
to
pspd
policy.
706
vehicle
use,
psp
policy
409
with
that
stating
is
that
those
policies
still
we
still
have
to
hear
to
our
policies.
In
other
words,
if
you're
going
to
drive
a
vehicle
with
your
lights
and
siren
on,
you
have
to
leave
it
on
the
whole
time
you
can't
you
have
to
drive
within
the
proper
speed
limit.
N
I
mean
the
uses
are
still
there.
So
it's
with
saying
it's.
If
that's
not
the
only
policies,
it's
limited
to
it's
and
it's
limited
to
our
entire
policy
manual,
if
you
would
feel
more
comfortable
with
a
different
phrase
than
included
but
not
limited
to,
I'm
certainly
open
to
that.
I'm
not
married
to
that
to
that
term.
The
only
one
that
I
did
see
in
here
that
you
might
find
there's
it's
mentioned
four
or
five
different
times,
but
is
section
nine.
N
Sub
section
9,
subsection
b,
it
says
to
limit
the
escalation
of
conflict
where
employed
of
left,
less
lethal
force
is
prohibited
or
undesirable.
Situations
for
use
of
the
less
lethal
weapon
systems
may
include,
but
are
not
limited
to,
and
that
lists
some
circumstances
in
which
those
those
less
lethal
weapons
may
be
involved.
N
That
certainly
can
be
changed.
That
sentence
is
kind
of
awkward
anyway,
and
I
can
change
that
in
our
policy
to
make
sure
that
it
does
not
say
may
include,
but
are
not
limited
to.
I
think
the
intent
you
know
of
when
this
was
put
together
was
to
say
we
can't
predict
all
of
the
different
scenarios
that
may
come
our
way
from
violent,
destructive
behavior
to
violent
riotous
crowd,
control
circumstances
where
the
tactical
advantage
might
be
gained.
N
There
could
be
other
situations
you
know
like,
for
instance,
even
potentially
vicious
animals.
I've
never
seen
it
used
for
that,
but
they're
trying
to
capture
all
of
those,
but
we
can
certainly
limit
it
more.
If
you
have
a
different
phrase
that
we
could
change
our
policy
to
make
sure
it's
in
line
with
council's
thinking,.
D
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
trying
to
follow
along
with
you
as
quickly
as
you
can
go
through
the
policy.
So
thank
you,
so
I
think
I'm
looking
at
the
specialized
equipment
in
no
on
page.
So
let's
talk
about
like
page
it
says,
item
3b,
page
12
or
page
13
right,
that's
where
we
are
in
the
staff
in
the
policy,
and
so
let
me
find
an
example.
D
H
D
Not
be
the
best
example,
but
it
looked
like
each
one
of
those
categories
mostly
said
that
phrase
and
so
yeah.
I
think
that's
my
question.
If,
as
an
attorney,
I
know
that
we
say
may
include,
but
not
limited
to
not
to
say
that
phrase
them
one
million
times
right
now
to
mean
everything,
and
so
it
really
kind
of
undermines
the
purpose
of
the
policy
and
so
yeah.
N
D
Yeah
I'll
see
if
council
number
other
council
members
have
questions
or
comments,
but
I
might
just
ask
the
city
attorney
who's,
the
better
attorney
than
me.
If
there
might
be
language
that
we
could
use
that,
wouldn't
be
all
expansive,
but
would
say
you
know,
incidents
comparable
to
these
listed
or
something
else.
E
Yes,
council,
member
hostage,
if
the,
if
the
council's
so
inclined
we
might
want
to
take
out,
the
may
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
from
sections
9
b
and
10
c.
Those
are
really
the
two
sections
I
see
where
we're
talking
about
authorized
use,
as
the
chief
indicated,
the
other
references
to
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
really
are
referencing
other
policies
that
the
city
already
has
in
place.
N
K
E
E
J
E
A
J
A
E
Yes,
honorable
mayor
and
members
of
the
city
council,
the
item
before
you
is
a
proposed
amendment
to
two
chapters
of
the
city's
municipal
code.
The
first
chapter
deals
with
administrative
citations.
These
are
similar
to
parking
tickets
that
folks
will
sometimes
get
usually
from
more
minor
code
violations
of
the
city's
municipal
code.
E
Some
of
the
highlights
of
the
proposed
amendments
include
for
the
administrative
citations
distinguishing
between
continuing
violations
such
as
building
code
violations,
zoning
code
violations
electrical
code
violations
that
can
be
corrected
with
time
versus
more
kind
of
immediate
violations
such
as
drinking
in
public
or
or
having
a
fire
in
public
places.
Those
need
correcting
immediately,
rather
than
giving
the
person
an
opportunity
to
to
fix
the
situation.
E
E
It
also
clarifies
that
the
hearing
officer
selection
process
contained
in
this
citation
or
in
this
ordinance
takes
precedence
over
the
other
municipal
code.
Provisions
dealing
with
the
administrative
appeals
board,
there's
a
chapter
in
our
municipal
code
that
states
that
the
administer
administrative
appeals
board
hears
appeals
relating
to
code
enforcement
matters.
E
It
also
removes
language
that
would
allow
the
city
to
collect
these
administrative
fines
by
way
of
a
special
assessment.
That's
collected
against
the
property.
A
recent
court
case
said
that
cities
really
aren't
supposed
to
be
collecting
these
fines
by
way
of
special
assessment.
So
this
ordinance
takes
away
that
that
authority.
E
But
since
I've
served
as
city
attorney,
we
we
had
a
situation
where
there
was
a
large
pile
of
junk
and
debris
and
it
was
an
absentee
property
owner
and
the
prospect
of
waiting
10
days
was
really
hard
for
the
neighbors
and
local
residents
to
to
believe.
And
so
this
would
give
us
flexibility.
It
could
be
shorter
than
10
days
in
other
situations.
If
it's
a
more
significant
violation
or
correction
that
needed
to
be
made,
then
it
could
be
more
than
10
days,
but
this
would
remove
the
hard
and
fast
10-day
period.
E
The
proposed
ordinance
does
remove
language
that
provides
for
the
city
manager
to
cooperate
with
the
neighborhood
organizations
that
was
really
taken
out
only
because,
quite
honestly,
we
weren't
sure
how
much
of
that
was
going
on.
If
the
council
is
concerned
with
that
and
would
like
to
have
that
language
remain
in
there,
I
don't
think
staff,
and
certainly
the
city
attorney's
office
would
not
have
any
problem
with
that.
So
that's
a
a
general
summary
of
the
provisions.
K
K
K
But
really
you
would
expect
a
landlord
to
do
that,
just
as
they
do
in
apartment
buildings,
for
instance.
I
know
sometimes
it's
written
into
the
lease
that
the
tenant
is
responsible,
but
still
generally,
if
you're
a
renter,
your
income
is
lower
and
things
like
that.
So
I
just
I'm
concerned
about
the
burden.
E
I
think
you
hit
on
it
when
you
indicated
kind
of
who's
responsible
again.
This
is
more
to
provide
flexibility,
and
I
think
that
most
situations
for
significant
violations-
the
city-
would
not
issue
a
citation
to
the
renter,
but
instead
would
issue
that
to
the
property
owner,
certainly
for
habitability
issues.
K
K
Are
there
going
to
be
parameters
that
are
set
out?
I
mean
it's
not
listed
here
in
this
code
and
I
and
I
understand
that
it
would
probably
be
pretty
burdensome
and
we
are
trying
to
give,
because
we
are
trying
to
get
flexibility,
but
what
I
think
deserves
10
days
notice
might
be
different
than
what
the
mayor
thinks
you
know,
so
how?
How
are
we
going
to
standardize
this
in
a
way
that
our
code
officers
are
being
consistent
and
that
our
residents
are
able
to
understand
what's
going
on?
E
J
Thank
you.
So
I
think
what
mayor
proton
was
getting
into.
That
is
the
idea
of
reasonable
you
know
and
that
that's
obviously
there's
flexibility.
Is
that
what
I'm
understanding
with
that
term
current
and
allows
that
flexibility?
Okay,
just
can
I
ask
an
example-
and
I
don't
know
if
it
applies
to
this
or
not,
but
these
are
complaints
that
I've
gotten
so
a
a
motor
home
decides
to
park
on
a
street
in
front
of
some.
J
J
Okay,
so
this
won't
change
that
they
still
correct
they.
Okay,
so
we
had
an
example
before
I
was
on
council,
where
a
developer,
maybe
smartly
so
built
the
house
10
feet
into
the
setback,
just
built
it
right
and
it
came
to
city
council
at
the
time
and
they
got
a
whopping
ten
thousand
dollar
fine,
which
is
really
a
smart
business
move,
if
you
think
about
it,
and
it's
not
good
for
the
neighborhood.
How
does
this
address
that.
E
J
Okay,
so
I
would
just
ask
that
that
finding
that
be
thought
that
be
thought
of
in
the
future,
just
just
so
we're
aware
of
that
hold
on
just
a
second,
oh,
so
you
know
one
of
the
the
things
we
had
and
I
see
that
we,
the
city
manager
through
this,
has-
and
this
is
probably
a
different
section
of
the
code-
the
city
manager-
has
the
opportunity,
under
this
proposal
to
assign
who
hears
the
appeals.
That's
correct.
Our
current
appeals
board.
E
E
This
ordinance,
as
it
currently
exists
suggests
that
the
hearing
officer,
whether
that
be
the
appeals
board
or
an
independent
hearing
officer,
can
change
the
the
fine
amounts,
and
so
the
proposed
revision
to
this
ordinance
brings
this
ordinance
in
line
with
the
appeals
board
and
says
that
the
hearing
officer,
whoever
it
is,
whether
it's
the
appeals
board
or
an
independent
hearing
officer,
cannot
modify.
The
dollar
amounts
that
they're,
essentially
a
fact
finder.
K
Thank
you
mayor.
I
know
there's
this
was
someone.
This
was
one
that
I
didn't
expect
to
have
as
many
comments
on
as
I
do.
I
I
am
interested
in
the
neighborhood
cooperation
piece.
I
I
don't
remember
the
exact
language
as
it
was
before,
but
I
think
the
the
point
still
remains
that,
as
I
said,
there's
certain
areas
of
our
city
that
have
different
issues
in
terms
of
landscaping.
K
I
think,
if
we're
able
to
provide
a
almost
just
a
heads
up,
hey
this
is
what's
going
on.
Would
you
like
to
engage
with
us
most
of
the
time,
I'm
thinking?
Probably
not,
which
is
why
we're
removing
it,
but
that
would
be
a
question
I
have
as
well.
If
there's
a
if
there's
a
history
of
this
causing
problems
to
delay
code,
then
that's
one
thing,
but
if
it's
just
not
being
used,
okay,
the
city
attorney
shaking
his
head,
since
it's
just
simply
not
being
used.
K
C
Yeah,
if
I
might,
it
absolutely
makes
sense,
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
coordination
with
the
neighborhoods
contemplates
what
we
do
currently
with
1ps,
where
they
have
a
code
committee
and
they're
very
active
in
this
space.
It
makes
perfect
sense.
I
think
what
might
be
administratively
more
burden
is,
if
every
time
we
issue
a
citation,
we're
expected
to
coordinate
or
collaborate
and
have
an
exchange
with
a
neighborhood
group
or
seek
input.
K
Thank
you
yeah.
I
think,
that's
generally
what
it
is
and
just
to
be,
for
instance,
if
there's
larger
issues
right
I
mean,
if
there
are
those
bigger
cases
that
there's
obviously
a
homeowner
that
needs
help
reaching
out
to
the
neighborhood
group
would
make
sense
if
it's
a
small
potatoes
kind
of
thing,
I
don't
think,
there's
a
need
in
the
same
way.
A
If
I
could,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
the
area
of
homes
that
have
fallen
into
derelict
treatment,
my
experience
across
the
city
is
there
are
a
number
of
different
reasons
for
that.
In
some
instances,
we
are
dealing
with
absentee
owners
that
have
all
of
the
means
in
the
world
to
be
able
to
remedy
the
situation,
but
are
not
doing
so.
We've
had
a
number
of
homes
that
I've
become
aware
of
where
there
is
a
f
owner
of
the
home,
who
is
elderly
and
has
been
in
long-term
care
and
the
air.
A
The
potential
heirs
are
unwilling
to
make
any
investment
until
after
the
passing
of
their
relative
and
those
are
always
very
difficult
and
troublesome
situations.
We
have
individuals
for
whom
there's
hoarding,
and
that
is
largely
a
mental
illness,
and
yet
there
is
the
means
to
be
able
to
take
and
respond.
D
D
So
thank
you
for
that
idea.
I
think
it's
great
and
I'd
love
to
see
us
move
in
the
direction
of
assisting
tenants
and
homeowners,
especially
those
who
are
unable
to
pay
instead
of
criminalizing
or
penalizing
code
compliance
issues
when
it's
not
that
level.
So
I
know
we
heard
some
really
passionate
comments
against
this
ordinance
today
in
public
comment.
So
if
staff
could
just
detail
for
us,
because
this
is
the
first,
I
think
that
I'm
hearing
about
this
ordinance
why
it
came
forward.
D
I
don't
think
it
was
requested
by
council
and
then,
if
you
could
just
address
the
public's
questions
and
concerns
about
this,
so
the
you
know:
property
abatement
programs
in
coachella
and
india
that
were
leaving
leading
to
the
removal
of
people
from
homes.
The
concerns
about
burdens
on
tenants
when
really
it's
landlords
responsibilities,
and
then
the
ask
to
instead
of
criminalizing
using
proactive
programs
to
help
clean
up
some
of
these
issues.
So
can
you
just
respond
to
the
public?
Please.
E
I
can
certainly
try
this
came
about
really
as
a
result
of
the
city
attorney's
office
and
the
code
enforcement
departments,
increasing
kind
of
exasperation
from
from
residents,
with
the
amount
of
time
that
it
sometimes
takes
to
resolve
code
cases.
And
so
we
looked
at
the
the
ordinance
to
see
if
we
could
streamline
some
of
the
provisions
and
as
I
mentioned,
there
were
some
that
just
really
need
to
be
updated
as
a
matter
of
law,
because
cases
and
statutes
have
changed
with
regard
to
the
situation
in
indio.
E
E
The
city
certainly
does
not
have
a
practice
of
doing
that,
and
in
fact,
since
I've
been
here,
I
can
only
think
of
one
case
that
we've
brought
criminally
for
a
continuing
violation,
and
that
was
for
a
a
property
owner
who
continued
to
to
rent
out
a
vacation
rental
notwithstanding
the
fact
that
their
permit
had
been
revoked
and
they
just
continued
blatantly
ignoring
the
city's
code
requirements.
So
we
used
the
criminal
process
very
infrequently
in
terms
of
assessing
properties
and
potentially
leading
to
property
owners
losing
their
houses.
D
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
appreciate
that
and
all
your
work
cleaning
up
our
code
because,
yes
often
our
code
is
extremely
outdated
or
worthy
or
cr
too
complicated
and
appreciate
the
changes
that
you've
made.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
forward.
Let
me
see
I
had
a
question
so
the
landlord
tenant
issue.
Can
you
explain
that
I
know
mayor
pro
tem
garner
raised
that
as
well.
So
your
recommendation
in
terms
of
putting
the
aid
in
a
bet
for
tenants
when
typically
landlords
are
responsible
for
nuisance
or
blight
issues.
D
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
it's
a
little
hard
to
pass
a
policy
not
knowing
what
those
administrative
regulations
are
going
to
be.
Since
I
am
very
concerned-
and
we
heard
public
comment
about
the
burden
on
tenants,
especially
if
you
have
slum
lords,
we
have
slumlords
here
in
palm
springs,
who
really
take
advantage
of
tenants,
and
you
know
this
is
just
another
avenue
for
that.
So
I
would
be
concerned
about
that
on
the
residential
side,
not
on
the
commercial
side
as
much,
although
that
is
still
a
concern
as
well,
so
we
have
so
many
older
buildings.
E
One
suggestion
might
be
to
this
is
a
first
reading.
Ordinances
require
two
readings.
Perhaps
if
the
council
is
otherwise
okay
with
the
provisions,
you
could
do
the
first
reading.
We
could
come
back
with
those
guidelines
and
the
dollar
amounts
for
the
administrative
fines
at
second
reading,
and
that
way
you
have
a
chance
to
keep
the
process
moving
forward,
but
you
can
always
stop
it
at
second
reading.
If
you're
not
comfortable
with
those
administrative
issues.
D
I
got
a
question
about
the
distinction
between
code
enforcement
officers
and
public
safety
officers
and
authorizing
both
to
issue
notices
to
correct
administrative
citations,
and
I
got
some
concern
and
emails
and
comments
that
it
might
deter
people
from
calling
the
police
if
they
need.
You
know
if
they're
experiencing
domestic
violence
or
what
have
you,
they
need.
Assistance
from
public
off
safety
officers
and
they're
worried
that
the
police
are
going
to
find
them
for
a
code
violation.
So
can
you
explain
why
that
change
was
made
and
if
you
have
a
recommendation
there.
E
The
current
ordinance
references,
a
public
safety
officer
and
distinguishes
that
from
an
enforcement
officer,
and
it
has
a
provision
that
says
that
if
a
violation
is
an
immediate
threat
to
life
and
safety,
then
the
citation
needs
to
be,
or
the
issue
needs
to
be
referred
to
a
public
safety
officer,
meaning
a
police
officer
or
a
firefighter
we've
removed
that
provision.
We
don't
know
if
that's
really
necessary
to
to
be
mandated
in
this
ordinance.
E
A
K
K
If
there's
something,
but
one
quick
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
is.
I
also
agree
with
the
the
mayor
and
council
member
holstadge
about
the
landscaping.
I
think
it's
something
that
we've
kind
of
brought
up
over
and
over
again
through
the
throughout
the
last
year
or
so,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
habitat
for
humanity
will
do
services
for
low-income
seniors.
K
Only
that's
how
we
did
a
home
on
in
the
north
end
of
town,
but
they're
also
limited
as
well
so,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
interested
in
landscaping
who
aren't
necessarily
low
income
either,
but
could
use
us
some
assistance,
so
it
could
be
an
opportunity
to
assist
neighbors
help
and
neighbors
helping
neighbors
way.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
mayor
bringing
that
up
and
just
want
to
offer
my
additional
support
for
that.
A
E
Yeah,
I
would
really
caution
against
making
any
hard
and
fast
rules
or
hard
and
fast
distinctions
in
an
ordinance.
You
know,
for
example,
a
noise
violation.
You
know
we
may
want
to
address
noise
violations
with
warning
letters
and
administrative
citations.
Those
aren't
necessarily
the
property
owner's
responsibility.
Those
are
the
occupants.
E
A
D
D
You
know
for
cause
if
they're
creating
a
nuisance,
I
think
that's
a
three-day
notice,
so
they
can
get
someone
out
really
quickly
depending
on
what
their
lease
says,
but
the
tenant
does
not
have
equal
power.
So
personally,
I'm
gonna
vote
no
on
this
ordinance
because
I
can't
support
it,
as
is
the
way
it's
written
for
landlords
and
tenants,
and
I
don't
have
the
language
to
prove
in
front
of
me.
J
I
I
thank
you
for
bringing
it
forward.
I
think
we
need
to
clean
it
up.
I
think
it's
important
to
clean
it
up
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
clarity
for
both
not
only
us
as
an
organization
but
for
all
our
residents
so
that
they
know
what
to
expect
how
to
expect
it,
whether
you're
on
the
complaining
side
or
on
the
citation
side
just
so
that
it
it's
clear
to
everyone.
So
I
appreciate
that
I
do
have
a
question.
J
K
Yeah,
I
I
feel
like
we're,
raising
quite
a
few
questions,
so
I'm
I'm
wondering
mayor
your
thoughts
on
getting
having
this
come
back
to
us,
but
not
actually
moving
forward
with
the
vote,
just
in
light
of
how
many
questions
have
been
raised
and
how
many
different
things
we're
wanting
to
look
at.
First.
A
So
I'm
I'm
largely
supportive
of
what
I
see
and
I
appreciate
that
there
are
some
clarifications
that
need
to
be
brought
forward
and
I'd
like
to
ask
the
city
manager
city
attorney
as
to
whether
you
would
prefer
to
I
have
time
to
address
some
of
the
questions
and
issues
that
have
been
raised
and
bring
this
back
for
another
reading.
Before
we
move
on
to
take
a
vote.
E
A
A
I
think
there
are
public
health
issues
that
are
here
and
there
are
sign,
and
I
appreciate
that
there
are
folks
who
just
can't
address
the
issues.
There
are
an
awful
lot
of
folks
in
town
who
have
created
public
nuisances,
who
have
all
of
the
means
in
the
world
to
address
them,
and
won't
do
so
until
they're
told
that
you
have
to.
D
I
want
to
hear
staff's
recommendation
about
what's
needed
and
when,
but
I'm
also
wondering
if
council
agrees,
that
staff
could
also
assess
creating
a
fund
like
we
heard
in
public
common,
I
think
charlie
irvin
raised
that
to
proactively
help
folks
clean
up
houses
and
yards,
and
especially
people
who
can't
afford
it
or
might
need
that
assistance.
So
can
we
include
that,
what's
the
timeline
there
and
and
workload
if
staff
could
respond
about
the
urgency
for
this
ordinance,
if
we
should
move
it
forward
or
if
it's
okay
to
continue
to
a
date
uncertain.
F
D
D
I
think
that
this
is
very
important
and
we
need
to
clean
up
the
ordinance
and
I
support
most
of
the
changes
here,
but
you
heard
some
fear
from
our
community
members
about
how
this
might
be
implemented,
and
it
does
seem,
like
you
know,
adding
to
the
hammer
that
we
use.
I
mean
I
think
you
know.
Most
people
probably
need
those
carrots
to
comply
better
and
that
will
just
get
us
better
results
in
the
long
run.
So
we
need
both,
but
I'd
like
to
do
them
together.
E
J
K
Thank
you.
The
one
thing
just
I
want
to
clarify
with
the
home
repair
program
as
it
currently
stands
at
ten
thousand
dollars
is
from
cdbg
funds.
So
I
know
that
when
we
were
discussing
this
before
it
was
to
create
an
additional
fund,
that's
separate
from
cdbg,
because
cdbg
requires
a
considerable
amount
of
documentation.
K
I
did
help
a
homeowner
with
that.
We
couldn't
even
finish
it,
unfortunately,
because
she
simply
didn't
have
the
documentation
that
the
federal
government
requires,
even
though
she
was
clearly
in
need.
So
I
think
that
was
why
it
was
raised
on
our
side
just
to
clarify,
but
I
also
still
continue
to
support
the
continuance,
because
I
think,
generally
with
our
second
readings
just
this
is
just
for
the
public.
A
A
A
Next
item
is
3c
approval
of
three
traffic
calming
requests
in
the
amount
of
250
thousand
dollars,
we're
going
to
take
3c
in
two
parts,
we're
going
to
deal
with
the
requests
from
the
desert
that
involve
the
desert,
highland
neighborhood
and
the
melody
ranch
neighborhood,
which
council
member
woods
is
able
to
participate
in,
and
then
we
will,
after
completing
those
deal
with
the
little
tuscany
neighborhood
traffic
calming
modification
for
which,
based
on
residents
council
member
woods,
is
not
able
to
participate
in
so
staff
report.
Please.
H
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
members
of
the
city
council,
joel
montalvo
city
engineer,
the
item
before
you
is
the
culmination
of
staff
efforts
with
the
community
for
traffic
calming
projects.
The
item
presents
three
different
traffic
coming
requests
that
have
followed
the
procedures
outlined
in
the
city's
neighborhood
traffic
calming
program
and
are
now
recommended
for
approval
by
this.
For
the
city
by
the
city,
council
and
implementation
by
city
staff,
the
neighborhood
traffic
calming
program
addresses
many
traffic
related
issues
by
working
closely
with
residents
to
identify
existing
problems,
define
neighborhood
goals
and
develop
neighborhood
support.
H
The
first
traffic
calming
project
is
located
in
the
desert:
highland
gateway
estate,
neighborhood,
the
residents
of
the
desert
highland
gateway's
estates,
neighborhood
submitted
a
community
action
request,
form
to
evaluate
if
rubberized
speed
cushions
would
be
warranted
on
eastgate
road
between
tranview
road
and
rosa
parks.
Road
staff
evaluated
the
request
and
collected
the
appropriate
data
and
found
that
the
speed
cushions
are
warranted.
Staff
recommends
approval
of
the
installation
of
the
speed
cushions.
H
The
second
traffic
calming
project
is
located
on
the
in
the
melody
melody
ranch
neighborhood.
The
traffic
coming
request
is
the
last
phase
in
a
previously
approved
traffic
calming
project.
The
community
requested
electronic
feedback
signs
as
part
of
a
larger
traffic,
calming
request
that
included
the
installation
of
lane
parking
lines
to
narrow
the
roadway
and
the
installation
of
two
standard
speed
limit
signs
on
seven
lakes
drive
in
an
effort
to
reduce
speed.
H
The
city
council
had
given
staff
the
authority
to
install
the
feedback
signs
if
the
data
supported
them.
As
there
were
certain
members
of
the
community
that
did
not
want
the
speed
feedback
signs
installed,
staff
had
postponed
the
installation
of
the
electronic
feedback
signs
until
data
was
collected
with
the
installation
of
the
lane
parking
lines
and
the
additional
speed
limit
signs
that
was
collected
in
october
of
21
to
test
the
effective
effectiveness
of
the
traffic
calming
measures
that
were
installed.
H
The
data
collected
found
that
the
original
traffic
calming
installation
measures
were
not
really
effective
in
reducing
the
speed
in
the
area.
It
did
appear
that
the
residents
noticed
a
decrease
in
speeding,
but
it
wasn't
really
effective.
So
staff
today
is
requesting
the
approval
of
this
item
to
fund
and
purchase
the
installation
of
the
electronic
feedback
signs.
D
H
H
I
did
talk
to
staff
about
the
email
and
we
did
notify
the
the
neighborhood
organization
that
actually
started
the
request.
There
was
around
two
months
ago.
I
believe
we
notified
them
saying
that
this
is
moving
forward.
We
are
going
to
install
them
and
I
believe
that
email
may
have
come
from
another
neighborhood
organization.
That
was
not
the
original
of
the
community
action
request
form.
I
believe,
that's
how
the
the
communication
broke
down.
D
A
C
H
Okay,
so
the
final
traffic
calming
project
is
in
the
little
tuscany
neighborhood.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
comparison
or
a
discussion
about
roundabouts
versus
chicanes.
There
is
a
lot
of
history
here,
so
I
am
going
to
read
through
it.
Hopefully
I
don't
sound
too
robotic,
but
I
do
need
to
get
through
the
history.
A
lot
of
it
predates
my
staff
myself.
So
I'm
going
to
go
through
it
try
to
explain
what
has
occurred,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
and
then
we
can
get
into
the
conversation
about
roundabouts
versus
chicanes.
H
The
city
council
actually
authorized
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
the
installation
of
robot
sorry
tongue,
tied,
rubberized,
speed,
cushions
or
speed
humps
at
two
locations
on
west
racket
club,
as
requested
and
approved
by
the
little
tuscany
neighborhood.
In
accordance
with
our
program,
however,
in
october
of
2016,
the
little
the
organization
submitted
a
formal
request
to
the
assistant
city
manager
to
consider
roundabouts
in
lieu
of
rubberized
speed
cushions
and
for
a
more
rigorous
traffic
calming
measure
on
west
racquet
club.
H
H
So,
in
november
of
2017
staff
presented
two
options
for
traffic
calming
within
the
little
tuscany
neighborhood
to
the
city
council.
The
speed
cushions
or
roundabouts
staff
also
presented
the
city
council,
the
limited
amount
of
funding
available
for
traffic
calming
at
that
time,
based
on
the
limited
amount
of
funding
available
at
the
time
staff
recommended
installing
speak
cushions
at
the
time
where
webb
had
prepared
a
cost
estimate
for
construction
of
the
roundabouts.
The
cost
estimate
was
around
230
000..
H
After
that,
council
decision
on
in
2017
residents
of
that
neighborhood
opposed
the
installation
of
speed
cushions
and
they
really
wanted
that
to
be
deferred
and
staff
continued
working
with
the
working
group
on
alternatives,
so
around
2018
staff
met
again
with
residents
and
look
at
to
review
and
try
to
find
other
alternatives.
The
alternatives
one
of
the
alternatives
that
was
landed
upon
was
chicane.
So
essentially,
a
chicane
is
a
horizontal
deflection
in
the
road.
H
It's
it
acts
as
a
traffic
calming
device,
it
narrows
the
road
down
or
it
actually
makes
the
driver
turn
and
pay
attention
when
they're,
driving
and
and
what
came
with
that
was
installation
of
temporary
chicanes,
use
it
using
bollards
and
other.
You
know
street
signs
that
we
typically
use
and
what
we
found
that
the
initial
installation
of
the
temporary
chicanes
was
effective
in
slowing
traffic
down.
However,
the
neighborhood
really
felt
that
that
it
was
unsightly.
H
H
In
march
of
2022
staff
met
with
the
members
of
the
working
group
and
councilmember
woods
to
discuss
the
the
next
steps
at
this
location.
At
this
meeting,
staff
explained
to
the
working
group
that,
if
they
wish
to
pursue
roundabouts,
the
the
city
council
would
have
to
approve
that
request
and
the
necessary
funding
for
the
roundabouts.
H
K
I'm
thank
you
for
for
that.
I
I,
I
really
feel
for
the
little
destiny
working
group
they've
been
going
back
and
forth
with
staff
for
a
while,
I'm
still
a
little
bit
confused
about
the
chicanes
and
what
they
exactly
look
like
are
the
chickens.
What's
there
right
now,
because
I
was
so
I
it's
for
context.
I
walked
the
road
it's
yeah
yesterday.
Yes,
yesterday,
I
walked
all
the
way
up
and-
and
so
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
about
what
it
is
that
I
actually
saw.
H
H
The
striping
catches
your
attention,
so
it
kind
of
forces
you
to
slow
down
a
little
bit,
but
I
believe
over
time,
if
you
see
that
often
enough
people
just
kind
of
speed
through
it,
because
they're
not
really
in
danger
of
hurting
their
vehicle,
if
you
will,
but
a
real
chicane
is
actually
a
physical
barrier
race
barrier
that
actually
makes
the
driver
turn
and
and
change
direction.
If
you
will,
as
you're
driving
up
or
down
the
street.
K
H
H
H
H
H
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
and
I
myself
have
not
studied
in
depth
what
the
difference
between
the
two
are.
I
would
say,
a
chicane
is
more
intended
to
chrome
traffic
and
a
roundabout
would
mean
to
direct
traffic
to
go
around,
but
by
going
and
directing
traffic
around
and
slowing
down,
it
does
essentially
lower
speeds.
H
A
A
H
So
right
now
the
road
does
not
have
sidewalk.
Pedestrians
are
walking
in
the
street,
I
think
as
a
bigger
project,
and
when
we
bring
forward
the
pedestrian
master
plan.
I
think
this
road
is
identified
as
re
as
installing
sidewalks,
so
that
would
take
the
pedestrian
essentially
out
of
the
picture
for
today,
if
they're
walking
in
the
streets,
I
think
they
are
both.
I
think
for
my.
H
Are
they
act
the
exact
same
way
when
you
build
the
roundabout
you're
going
to
have
to
widen
the
street
depending
on
the
design
of
it
right,
you're
going
to
have
to
design
around
the
roundabout
and
the
pedestrians
should
be
taken
into
consideration?
One
of
the
things
that
I
believe
councilmember
woods
mentioned
when
he
was
speaking
as
a
resident
that
we
should
take
into
consideration
pedestrians
bicyclists
when
we're
designing
and
that's
what
we
would
instruct
our
traffic
designers
to
do.
A
D
I
do
thank
you
mayor.
I
just
want
to
ask
very
broadly
for
the
public,
because
we
always
get
emails
and
questions
about
how
certain
neighborhood
traffic
calming
projects
move
forward
and
how
they
don't
and
obviously
there's
issues
of
equity
and
we're
just
talking
about
investments.
The
city
makes
and
the
different
neighborhoods.
D
D
One
reason
I'm
asking
this
is
because
you're
the
city
engineer
and
you're
an
expert
and
I'm
not
an
engineer-
and
you
know
some
community
members
right,
don't
know
what
these,
what
the
impacts
will
be
on
traffic
and
traffic
calming.
So
can
you
just-
and
I
really
want
your
explanation
as
an
expert
engineer,
about
what
would
be
best
to
reduce
speed
in
that
neighborhood
and
what
that
value
is
so?
H
H
Get
neighborhood
support,
fill
out
the
community
action
request,
form
and
submit
it
for
for
staff
consideration.
So
we
get
I'm
just
going
to
use
some
round
numbers
here.
20
to
30
community
action
request
forms
every
year
or
you
know
it
varies
really
and
they
range
in
in
their
scope.
So
what
staff
does
is
takes.
F
H
Initial
step,
they
take
the
application
and
they
review
it.
Then
they
start
working
with
a
neighborhood
lead
or
the
work
group
from
the
work
group.
We
establish,
you
know
who's
really
interested.
Typically,
it's
the
people
that
sign
the
form
that
working
group
then
develops
what
they
want
to
do,
what
their
requests
are
with
staff
and
then
we
move
along.
H
We
get
input
from
the
rest
of
the
resident,
depending
who's
going
to
be
impacted
and
depending
on
what
type
of
traffic
calming
is
requested,
and
then
we
go
through
a
process
to
evaluate
whether
cost,
whether
it's
feasible
to
do
a
certain
type
of
traffic
coming.
We
do
issue
suggestions
or
we
come
up
with
the
right
traffic
calming
implementation
for
the
neighborhood
or
for
the
situation,
and
then
it
goes
through
a
process
of
having
the
community
itself
garner
support
from
the
rest
of
the
residents.
H
We
get
to
a
point
where
we
actually
survey
the
residents
and
get
feedback
from
the
neighborhood
and
we
have
a
certain
percentage.
I
think
it's,
I
think
we
need.
I
can't
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
quote
it
properly
today,
but
there's
a
certain
percentage
that
we
need
to
to
get
responses
from
and
in
favor
of
a
project,
so
it
can
move
forward.
A
lot
of
these
community
action
request,
forms
or
requests
essentially
die
because
they
don't
garner
enough
support.
H
There's
others
where
we
move
forward
through
the
entire
process.
We
actually
get
council
approval
and
then
we
start
implementing
and
it
lands
on
a
certain
person's
front
yard
or
close
to
their
home,
and
they
really
were
thought
they
were
left
out
of
the
process
and
we
go
through.
You
know
back
and
forth
and
we
have
to
cancel
the
program
because
they
were
not
in
favor
of
the
implementation
and
sometimes
it
breaks
down
and
with
staff.
H
D
And
then
we
independently
might
look
at
public
works
projects
for
engineering
needs
for
pedestrian
safety
or
biker
safety
or
speed
right.
That's
how
some
of
our
other
traffic
calming
projects
have
been
done,
so
it
could
be
staff
or
council
generated
that
way,
and
then
this
is
the
way
it's
community
generated.
H
Correct
correct
and
and
now
I
tried
to
use
a
traffic
calming
program
directly
with
that
associated
with
neighborhood
organizations
submitted
through
the
community
action
request,
form
anything
other
than
that
becomes
a
capital
project.
That
staff
is
developing
so
to
a
distinction
between
the
neighborhood
organizations,
requests
and
staff's.
You
know
priorities.
H
D
It's
just
wondering,
since
there
is
because
we
do
a
lot,
it
takes
a
lot
of
people
power.
I
think
you're
gonna,
say
man,
woman
people
power
to
build
these
up
and
then,
like
you
said,
you
know,
there's
the
property
owner
who
doesn't
want
it
right
there
and
then
all
that
work
is
for
naught
and
that
just
seems
like
an
inefficient
system
to
me.
But
democracy
is
inefficient.
A
C
C
Similarly,
I
think,
in
both
cases,
geometry
really
matters,
so
I've
seen
chicanes
that
are
where
bike
lanes
go
behind
the
chicane,
for
instance,
if
the
roadway
permits
that
kind
of
width
roundabouts,
at
least
in
all
of
the
applications
I've
been
part,
cyclists
generally
enter
the
roundabout,
which
is
a
little
more
vulnerable
and
pedestrians
cross
near,
but
not
within
the
roundabout,
which
also
given
the
the
traffic
movement
is,
is
not
ideal.
So
I've
worked
in
a
couple
situations
where
they
had
to
be
engineered
very
carefully
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
them
be
engineered
poorly.
C
I
think
you
mentioned
early
on
in
in
comments
you've.
Seen
the
same
when
they're
too
small
people
can
drive
straight
through
when
they're
too
big
you,
you
have
other
challenges,
especially
with
right-of-way
etc.
So
I
think
both
applications
work.
One
of
the
bigger
questions
might
be.
What
is
the
balance
between
accommodating
the
desires
of
neighbors
and-
and
I
should
add,
I've
never
seen
roundabouts
in
a
community
that
don't
have
a
of
their
fair
share
of
detractors.
C
I
even
even
after
many
years
I
worked
for
one
community
15
years
ago,
and
and
still
some
people
run
for
council
on
the
ticket
of
tearing
out
the
roundabout,
because
they're
they're
just
they're
not
universally
loved,
that's
not
to
say
people
in
the
neighborhood
or
anybody
else
would
dislike
them,
and,
and
sometimes
it's
just
a
matter
of
what
what
is
cost
effective
again.
I
think
the
chicanes
are
generally
lower
impact
and
accomplish
something
similar,
but
both,
I
think,
can
be
effective
when
used
properly.
A
So
I
think
they
both
can
be
used
effectively
as
well.
I'm
not
sure
that
I
have
seen
roundabouts
on
what
are
essentially
three-way
roads,
be
because
what
we
have
here
on
racket
club
is
to
the
north.
Is
vacant
land
there's
no
crossings
street
there's
there
are
intersecting
streets.
Am
I
right
or
wrong
on.
H
K
H
An
interesting
word
every
time
I
say
it
or
write
it.
It
does.
I
have
to
think
about
it.
I
I
would
say
that
a
roundabout
we
would
have
to
engage
our
engineering
consultant.
The
timeline
would
increase
again.
I
would
put
that
project
as
a
capital
project.
It
would
be,
then
you
know
prioritized
with
the
with
the
other
capital
projects
that
we
have
going
on
the
chicane.
I
think
it's
a
smaller
project.
It
also
is
impactful.
It's
gonna
take
some
time
to
design.
H
So,
if
I
were
to
say
we're
gonna
start
the
chicane
design,
you
know
in
the
next
fiscal
year
I
say
within
a
year
and
a
half
we
would
probably
be
able
to
complete
it.
If
we're
going
to
start
the
roundabout
design,
comparing
that
or
using
you
know
the
metric
of
of
all
our
other
capital
projects,
I
think
it
would
be
longer.
I
would
say,
in
the
two
to
three
or
four
year
range.
K
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
because
I
think
you
know
I
I
also
recently
spoke
with
a
resident
who
lives
up
rocket
club
as
well,
and
she
was
requesting
sidewalks,
which
we
just
discussed,
and
I
had
actually
just
talked
to
justin
about
that.
So
I
think
there
and
she
had
the
same
concern
right.
There's
a
lot
of
traffic,
there's
a
lot
of
cyclists
and
pedestrians
that
use
it
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
sidewalk.
K
So
I
I
think
that
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
public
and
and
seeing
from
my
own
experience
taking
that
road
as
a
pedestrian.
We
want
something
in
place
sooner
than
later,
and
so
I
I'm
interested
in
moving
forward
with
the
chick
hanes
for
that.
For
that
reason,
and
it
looks
like
once
they're
permanent-
we
can
make
it
a
much
nicer
view
so
to
speak
rather
than
than
what's
there
now,
which
I
agree
is
a
little
ugly
and
confusing.
If
you
don't
understand
why
it's
there.
A
It's
one
all
second,
because
I
think
the
timeliness
does
matter,
but
I
would
like
us
to
in
the
course
of
all
of
the
many
many
many
other
things
we've
given
you
to
do
to
at
some
point.
Take
a
look
at
whether
or
not
a
conversion
to
roundabouts
in
many
locations
would
be
something
that
would
be
advisable
from
a
traffic
management
standpoint,
and
I
know
we're
not
taking
any
new
requests
right
now,
but
we'll
put
that
on
the
parking
list.
M
Madam
mayor
and
members
of
council,
as
we
begin
this
discussion
item
this
evening,
I
just
want
to
do
a
brief
introduction
number
one.
I
want
to
thank
mr
patrick
talarico,
who
originally
initiated
this
as
our
office
of
sustainability
manager
last
fall,
and
I'd
also
like
to
introduce
and
thank
tracy
sheldon,
who
has
stepped
into
that
role
in
patrick's
absence
and
has
managed
this
process
and
gotten
us
to
where
we
are
today,
and
so
it's
through
tracy's
efforts
that
we
are
here
this
evening
with
an
updated
franchise
agreement
for
your
consideration.
M
I
would
like
to
also
introduce
miss
joanna
jin,
who
was
with
best
best
and
krieger.
She
is
representing
the
city
as
our
attorney
on
this
project
and
has
been
very
instrumental
in
developing
the
franchise
agreement
that
we
have
before
us.
We
also
have
mr
chris
cunningham
of
palm
springs
disposal
service,
who
will
be
making
a
brief
presentation
following
ms
ginn
and
then
on
zoom.
B
C
F
F
P
F
G
G
They
did
the
same
thing
and
I
believe
san
diego
board
of
supervisors
is
in
the
process
of
doing
the
same
thing.
So
it's
it's
a
trend,
and
it
really,
I
I
just
hope.
Hopefully
you
can
address
this
later
and
hopefully
allow
public
participation
at
a
greater
stance
than
it
is
now
and
that's
all
I
have
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you.
D
Madam
mayor,
if
I
could
use
a
point
of
personal
privilege,
I
don't
do
this
often,
but
the
speaker
was
referring
to
me
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
the
city
of
palm
springs
has
had
the
way
that
they
do
public
comment
for
agenda
items
and
non-agenda
items
at
the
open
and
close
of
the
meeting
for
years
and
years
and
years
well
before
I
was
here
and
cvag
did
move
to
that
format
completely
independently
of
me.
I
had
no
role
in
it.
D
If
you
pull
public
meetings,
I
have
advocated
for
more
public
access
to
public
meetings
and
less
limited,
less
fewer
limitations
like
the
two-minute
rule.
So
I'm
sorry
this
is
probably
the
fifth
or
tenth
time.
I've
heard
mr
anderson
say
that
and
blame
me
for
that,
and
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear.
D
Q
That
I'm
just
25th
yes
thank
you
and
good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
council,
I
will
be
providing
an
introduction
and
overview
of
the
changes
to
the
solid
waste
franchise
agreement
with
palm
springs
disposal
services.
Tonight,
myself,
tracy
chris
bob
and
enrique,
are
present
at
tonight's
meeting
as
flynn
mentioned
and
since
2021.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
So
due
to
sb
619,
which
took
effect
this
year,
the
city
was
able
to
avoid
incurring
the
penalties.
I
mentioned
those
hefty
fines
for
this
calendar
year
by
adopting
a
resolution
and
submitting
a
notification
of
intent
to
comply
with
the
sb
1383
regulations
to
cal
recycle,
so
that
gives
the
city
a
little
bit
more
time
to
work
on
that
franchise
agreement.
Q
Okay-
and
this
is
the
current
services
we
have-
residential
commercial,
industrial
and
temporary
bins.
Psds,
as
you
know,
is
the
exclusive
hauler
for
the
city.
The
current
franchise
has
a
term
of
15
years
and
that
is
set
to
expire
march,
30th
of
2029.
So
that's
just
shy
of
seven
years
from
now,
the
sb
1383
regulations
requires
the
city
to
provide
through
psds
organic
waste
collection
services
to
all
residents
and
businesses.
Q
Approximately
25
percent
of
single
family
properties
do
subscribe
to
green
waste
containers
on
a
voluntary
basis,
so
for
multi-family
properties,
they
are
offered
trash
recyclables
and
a
green
waste
cart
or
bin,
depending
on
their
needs
in
terms
of
volume
with
commercial
businesses,
they
also
have
a
round
cart
or
bin,
and
that's
specifically
for
foodway,
so
they
have
the
four
containers
they
have
trash,
recyclables,
green
waste
and
food
waste
and
then,
of
course,
there's
also
the
other
bins
as
well.
That
psds
offers
the
roll-off
boxes
there
and
then
also
they
collect
compactors.
Q
So
this
is
just
an
illustration
of
how
the
sb
1383
regulations
would
affect
residential
customers.
They
would
be
required
to
subscribe
to
the
green
organics
container.
Psds
has
placed
an
order
for
those
carts
and
there
are
no
anticipated
supply
issues.
With
regards
to
the
containers
under
the
sb
1383
regulations,
the
containers
do
have
to
be
a
specific
color,
it's
compliant
for
trash
and
recyclables,
because
it's
black
or
gray
for
trash
and
blue
for
recyclables
and
then
it
would
be
green
for
or
brown
for
organic
waste.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Also
psds
will
be
reviewing
applications
for
waivers
from
organic
waste
services
under
the
sb
1383
regulations
and
under
the
city's
code.
There
are
three
possible
waivers
from
organic
waste
collection
services.
The
first
is
for
commercial
businesses
that
do
not
generate
that
much
waste,
that's
a
diminished
de
minimis
waiver.
The
second
is
for
commercial
businesses
that
do
not
have
adequate
space
to
have
a
organic
waste
container,
and
the
third
is
for
premises
where
there's
no
habitation
or
occupation
or
occupancy
for
six
consecutive
months.
Q
Q
Q
There's
also
a
consolidation
of
various
fees
and
other
compensation
that
psds
pays
to
the
city
for
its
exclusive
franchise
and
all
those
fees
would
be
consolidated
into
a
singular
franchise
fee
at
11
of
gross
billings.
So
what
happened
was
there
was
an
assessment
of
the
amount
of
total
fees
that
psds
pays
and
it
came
out
to
about
11,
and
so
that's
how
that
figure
and
percentage
was
determined.
Q
Q
Q
Q
D
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation
and
just
want
to
say
I
say
this
every
time
wow.
This
is
very
complicated
for
the
public
to
for
all
of
us
to
understand
and
follow
so
appreciate
a
really
clear
presentation.
So
thank
you.
I
just
have
a
question
so
if
we
can
look
at
the
options
for
us
to
consider,
so
some
of
those
include
an
extension
of
time
to
the
exclusive
agreement.
Is
that
right
and
can
you
just
explain
how
that
costing
works?
D
D
F
R
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
time.
Thank
you
joanna
for
that
presentation.
I
was
asked
very
briefly
just
to
give
an
overview
of
rates
current
rates
and
the
options
that
can
be
provided.
So
this
will
be
short
rate
proposals,
we're
going
to
look
at
current
rates
and
we're
also
going
to
look
at
three
rate
options.
R
Okay,
current
rates
for
core
services
right
now,
obviously
not
all
the
servers,
but
this
is
the
core
service
impacted
most
by
1383.,
the
residential
side,
the
curbside
service
right
now,
economy
is
25.89,
the
family
value
service
is
35.60,
the
walk-in
service
is
29.26
and
the
estate
service
is
80
and
66
cents.
Now
we
have
a
large
menu
of
service,
but
again
this
is
the
core
part
of
it.
R
These
rates
right
now
just
to
keep
keep
something
in
mind
here.
Current
rates
right
now
do
not
include
the
1383
services
they
do.
However,
if
you
recall,
last
year,
october
november
december
went
through
the
the
extraordinary
rate
adjustment
exercise
and
that
started
in
january
when
that
sun
sets
next
month
the
end
of
the
month
and
then
shortly
behind.
That
is
the
cost
for
1383.
So
keeping
that
in
mind
as
we
go
through
these
few
slides
option
one.
R
It
ends
march,
30th,
2029,
so
six
years
and
nine
months
left,
so
the
monthly
rates
for
the
core
services
for
the
remaining
term,
with
the
1383
services
included,
curbside
services
be
26.61,
the
walk-in
service
will
be
34-37
and
the
state
service
will
be
27
and
that's
for
the
current
term
in
option.
Two:
the
agreement
ending
june
30th
2032.
R
R
R
This
adds
eight
years
and
three
months
to
the
current
term
and
again,
this
just
gives
us
even
more
time
to
amortize
the
investment
over
time,
so
the
monthly
rates
for
the
core
services
would
be
curbside
service.
At
24-22
the
walk-in
service
at
31-28,
they
state
services,
7942
and
individual
yearly
discounts,
you'd
see
the
customer
would
see
savings
of
the
first
year:
nine
percent,
seven
percent
the
second
year,
five,
the
third
and
four,
the
fourth
again.
These
are
all
138.
1383
services
are
included,
and
then
this
last
slide.
F
P
Good
evening
and
my
nice
nice,
as
stated,
my
name,
is
mr
vasquez,
and
I
would
like
to
cover
a
couple
of
things
from
the
top
here
and
then
be
willing
to
answer
questions.
The
analysis
that
we
performed
from
a
financial
perspective
was
that
when
you
look
at
these
rates
as
presented,
it's
a
very
small
selection,
although
it's
you
know
a
very
common
rate
for
the
residentials.
P
But
when
you
look
at
the
contract
as
a
whole,
it's
a
large
selection
of
freights
and
different
quantities
are
selected
by
you
know
the
various
customers,
so
the
best
way
to
get
a
feel
for
the
value
of
the
agreement
is
rather
than
look
at.
Individual
rates
is
to
look
at
the
total
revenue,
that's
generated
by
the
agreement,
and
we've
been
working
over
the
last
three
or
four
years
even
before
we
started
this.
P
This
process,
with
the
previous
rate
reviews
and
including
the
extraordinary
rate
adjustments.
So
we've
developed
a
good
working
relationship
with
altering
disposal
and
an
understanding
of
their
structure,
and
so
what
we
did
is
we
took
the
subscription
levels
for
all
the
different
categories
and
used
that
against
the
race
to
project
out
the
revenues
that
they
were
generating
and
we
did
the
same
thing
with
their
proposed
rates
so
that
we
can
compare
what
are
the
rates
that
how
much
revenue
degenerated
under
the
proposed
rates
as
compared
to
where
they
are
right.
P
So
these
rates
are
not
really
outside
of
that
range,
but,
based
on
my
analysis,
I
concluded
that
they
could
potentially
lower
the
rates
about
one
or
two
percent
and
still
be
fine.
So
that's
for
option
one.
Now
I
want
to
point
out
that
also,
as
chris
stated
in
those
rates
that
he
showed
as
current
as
he
said,
you
know,
there's
the
the
there's
the
component
for
the
extraordinary
rate
adjustment
that's
going
to
expire,
so
the
current
rates
without
the
extraordinary
readjustments
are
actually
1982.
P
P
It's
not
a
rate
that
is
set
as
year,
one
and
then
subject
to
an
annual
rate
increase
alone,
but
they
structurally
go
up
a
given
amount
and
fix
them
out.
Then
they
get
a
rate
adjustment
on
top
of
that
so
that
by
year,
three
and
year,
four,
depending
on
the
option,
they've
in
essence
raise
the
rates
back
up
to
what
they
would
have
wanted
them
to
be.
So
there's
there's
that
component
of
the
options
two
and
three
and
again
options.
P
Two
and
three
are
trade-offs
for
term,
and
I,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
report
term,
is
valuable
to
a
franchisee.
The
city
didn't
really
ask
for
options
with
additional
term.
They
they
provided
those
and
which
is
not
uncommon.
That
contractors
would
want
to
do
that
to
extend
their
term
and
they
offered
discounts
for
that.
P
But
I
can't
tell
you
with
certainty
that
that
those
reductions
are
worth
the
extra
term,
because
the
city,
the
only
real
way
to
know
what
that
is
worth,
is
to
actually
get
additional
callers
to
bid
on
that
and
to
offer
rates.
So
while
those
options
can
be
meaningful
and
the
city
may
choose
to
to
select
them,
they're,
not
you
know
as
clear
as
to
the
value
as
to
the
option,
one,
which
is
for
the
remaining
term
and
incorporates
the
the
budget
of
sp
1383.
J
A
R
J
R
J
R
D
Mask
a
follow-up
of
city
staff
council
member
woods,
yes
and
mayor.
Thank
you
so
in
the
staff
report
it
says
that
psds
has
been
the
city's
exclusive
waste
hauler
since
1972,
and
then
it
says
in
2013
the
city
entered
into
an
agreement
with
ps
disposal
for
15
years.
So
does
city
staff
know.
I
know
we
don't
have
anyone
sitting
up
there
who
was
here
15
years
ago?
I
think.
C
I
don't
have
those
details,
I
and
I
don't
know
if
we
do
on
team,
but
but
I
suppose
the
only
thing
that
could
have
happened
is
a
sole
source
negotiation,
similar
to
what
we
did
with
the
extraordinary
rate
increase
where,
hopefully,
we
use
a
consultant
to
evaluate
the
reasonableness
of
the
proposed
fees,
but
that's
the
only
other
way
it
could
have
been
created.
I
think,
is
through
negotiation.
R
D
A
The
issue
before
us
this
evening
is
it
whether
or
not
to
approve
option
one,
two
or
three
or
to
provide
feedback
based
on
what
we're
hearing
for
further
discussions
that
would
take
place
between
the
city
and
palm
springs
disposal
and
our
outside
consultant.
Then
coming
back
to
us
with
a
recommendation
at
a
subsequent
date.
Q
I
guess
there
would
be
the
three
rate
options
that
are
proposals
that
were
provided
and
then,
if
there
was
anything
different
to
from
council,
that's
also
possible
as
well
and
then,
if
there's
anything
in
terms
of
direction
regarding
the
language
or
provisions
and
the
franchise
agreement.
To
would
welcome
that
as
well.
J
J
P
It's
most
of
that
equipment
will
not
really
have
much
value
after
about
seven
years.
So
many
contracts
will
you
know,
five-year
contracts
are
considered
very
short
because
they,
they
have
to
be
priced
higher.
Seven
years
are
considered
kind
of
in
the
range
of
equipment.
Life
10
to
15
years
are
then
greater
than
that
so
many
times
the
life
of
the
contract
will
be.
The
equipment
could
be
a
seven
to
ten
years
for
especially
vehicles,
they
require
more
maintenance
towards
the
end,
so
they
are
more
costly.
P
J
J
P
That's
correct
and
I've
been
reviewing
the
current
contract
for
the
last
three
or
four
years
did
a
performance
review,
one
of
the
whoops
one
that
was
referred
to
earlier,
but
subsequent
to
that
worked
through
the
rate
adjustment
and
the
current
prices
are,
you
know
well
within
a
a
reasonable
number.
What
is
complicated
here
is
the
addition
of
sp
1383
unknown
costco.
You
know
forecasting
the
future.
J
F
F
J
R
Yeah,
council
member
woods,
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Yeah.
These
rates
were
originally
established
in
2014
right
for
the
current
agreement.
Now
the
issue
with
that
is,
we
didn't
really
know
anything
about
vacation
homes.
This
is
a
couple
years
before
the
ordinance
was
even
in
place
before
the
popularity
of
vacation
homes
and
even
we
had
no
way
of
tracking
them
until
the
city
had
in
an
actual
vacation
code
compliance
department,
which
now
we
work
on
a
weekly
basis.
R
R
R
Marked
in
our
software
system,
so
we
can
pull
out
all
the
information
how
many
cards
they
have.
What
days
the
week
they
go
everything.
But
when
you
ask
the
question
I
apologize,
I
couldn't
efficiently
answer
that
at
the
time,
but
that's
why
I
went
back
and
looked
at
everything.
It's
a
it's
just
a
process
we
go
through
in
our
software
system,
but
I
can
pull
everything
out
of
there.
J
So
I
just
want
to
try
and
understand
the
science
behind
it
right.
So
you
come
by
and
you
pick
up
three
bins
at
or
two
two
bins.
If
they
got
a
green
three
bins
at
a
vacation
rental,
you
know
you
have
no
waiting,
you
don't
weigh
it,
you
don't
look
at
it,
you
just
dump
it
in
the
truck.
How
do
you
know
it's
generating
more.
R
Well,
because
those
are
all
they're,
all
walk-ins
they're,
it's
the
it
they're
mandated
to
have
a
walk-in
service,
so
our
guys
have
to
walk
in
the
back.
Go
in
there
see
what
they
have.
Then
they
got
to
pull
them
out
now.
Some
of
the
issues
we
have
is
this:
we
pull
them
out.
Our
our
crew
carries
gps
tablets
for
every
time
they
go
to
a
service
okay.
Now
after
they
do
that,
we'll
get
a
call,
let's
say
maybe
a
day
or
two
later.
This
is
between
visitors.
R
J
F
Mata
mayor,
I
just
wanted
to
add,
as
well.
Staff
routinely
over
the
years
has
been
keeping
tabs
on
rates
here
in
coachella
valley,
so
checking
with
other
cities.
We
do
have
that
historical
data
and
I'm
happy
to
provide
that
at
a
future
date
and
then,
where
we
are
currently
with
1383
in
in
terms
of
coachella
valley,
there
are
some
jurisdictions
who
have
their
updated
franchise
agreements
in
place.
F
A
J
F
Carts
are
having
to
be
purchased
for
food
waste
and
for
our
residential.
They
are
going
to
be
a
combination
of
both
your
landscape
clippings,
but
also
your
bagged
food
waste,
so
the
purchase
again
of
14
000,
additional
carts
and
then
those
trucks.
Those
additional
trucks
are
needed
because
those
additional
routes
are
being
added
specifically
for
the
organic
waste
collection.
J
J
R
R
J
A
P
That
they
submitted
psds
submitted
a
budget
and
it
was
very
reasonable,
incorporated
the
cost
of
new
trucks,
the
processing
of
organics
and
the
addition
of
staff,
not
just
drivers,
but
actually
the
ambassadors
are
required.
Sb1383
has
heavy
requirements
for
route
monitoring
and
whatnot
when
I
compared
added
that
to
their
revenue
requirement
and
then
projected
out
their
rates
based
on
their
proposed
rates
and
their
subscription
levels.
P
The
revenues
were
very
close,
but
there
was
a
couple
of
features
in
their
budget
that
I
challenged,
and
that
is
that
they
added
a
gna
component
of
well.
They,
together
with
with
profit
of
about
I'm,
trying
to
remember
right
now.
It
was
20
30
percent
25.
I
can't
remember
it
right
now,
but
they
added
a
component
for
gin.
P
And,
and
usually
when
you're
pricing
is
something
that
I
I've
done
for
many
years
for
these
kind
of
services,
you
can
add
a
component
for
gna
as
a
percent
of
total,
because
you,
you
gotta
account,
for
you,
know
fractional
people
here
and
there
and
accounting
and
whatnot.
But
the
contract
already
includes
a
compensation
for
gna
and
for
the
new
services
they
are
actually
including
all
the
staff
that
they
need
the
and
the
equipment
and
the
tablets
and
the
personnels.
P
So
my
question
to
psds
is
what
additional
gna
do
you
need
to
cover
with
that
percent?
And
I
don't
feel
like.
I
got
a
good
enough
answer,
because
they've
already
accounted
for
all
that,
so
I
backed
up
the
gna
for
the
new
for
the
new
services,
only
not
for
their
existing
services
and
left
a
10
profit
margin
which
in
many
franchise
agreements,
is
considered
reasonable
and
so
that's
and
that
generated
about
2.1
percent.
A
A
So
I
would
think
one
of
the
things
that
all
of
us
are
going
to
feel
a
bit
more
reassured
by
is
to
be
able
to
start
to
see
some
of
our
adjoining
cities
and
contracts
that
they
have
and
what
what
those
look
like
and
there's-
and
I
know
they
are
in
the
same
process
that
we're
in
right
now
but
having
some
of
those
numbers.
When
we
come
back
to
approve
a
final
contract.
K
K
J
Q
So
if
that
october
first
deadline
isn't
met,
I
would
imagine
that
cal
recycle
would
reach
out
and
discuss
whether
there
has
to
be
a
corrective
action
plan
that
is
issued.
That
said,
I
do
agree
with
tracy
that
there
are
supply
chain
issues
that
are,
you
know,
statewide
issues
and
that
it
would
be
very
hard
for
a
regulatory
agency
to
kind
of
hold
the
city
to
something
when
it
had
no
control
over
the
delivery
of
the
trucks
and
clearly
psds
did
not
have
control
over
their
trucks.
J
Q
J
My
concern
is,
if
we
delay
making
it
there
are
supply
chain
problems.
I
don't
know
if
palm
springs
disposal
is
going
to
front
order
it
already
without
having
something
in
place.
If
we
don't
get
something
in
place
for
a
couple
more
months,
it
seems
like
we're
shooting
ourselves
in
the
foot.
Am
I
wrong
in
that?
Is
that.
J
Q
It
it
is
really
a
delivery
issue
and
it's
not
you
know,
palm
spring
disposal
services
a
fault.
That
said,
I
think
that,
if
you're
considering
well,
what
is
the
rates
that
would
be
imposed
for
the
remainder
of
the
term
just
for
the
implementation
of
the
sp
1383
services,
then
I
think
that
that's
something
that
we
could
take
and
look
and
bring
back
to
council.
If
that's
what
council
desires.
J
So
I'll
just
kind
of
close
with
my
remarks,
I
I
agree
with
the
mayor,
100
and
and
at
the
mayor
pro
tem.
I
think
we
want
to
get
this
program
up
and
running.
We
want
to
get
people
used
to
it,
there's
going
to
be
a
cost,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
the
cost
is
going
to
be.
If
we
go
with
option,
one
which
I
would
support,
it
doesn't
seem
like
the
cost
is
much
more
than
it
is
today.
On
the
temporary
thing,
I
would
ask
with
palm
springs
disposal
service.
J
I
think,
there's
a
difference
between
a
vacation,
rental,
property
and
a
home
share
that
you
look
at
what
the
difference
is,
and
maybe
it
needs
to
be
split.
Maybe
not,
but
you
know
to
really
look
at
that
difference
between
the
two,
because
I
think
they're
very
two
different
beasts
on
that,
but
that
would
be
my
comments.
Thank
you.
D
A
This
has
been
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
I
know
there's
an
awful
lot
left
to
come
and
we've
made
it.
It
is
complicated,
ultimately,
there's
something
really
simple:
that's
going
to
happen
here,
and
that
is
we're
going
to
have
to
educate
the
public
to
treat
their
waste,
particularly
food
waste
very
differently
than
most
of
us
have
been
used
to
for
many
many
years,
and
I
don't
think
anybody
should
underestimate
the
work.
That's
going
to
have
to
go
into
that
re-education
process.
C
Could
put
up
the
tentative
upcoming
meeting
schedule
a
couple
things
to
point
out:
one
is
we
do
have
a
study
session.
A
third
budget
study
session
scheduled
for
june
8.,
do
want
to
confirm
that
we
had
discussed
conceptually-
including
maybe
for
the
first
hour,
a
joint
meeting
with
measure
j
so
that
they
could
deliver
any
recommendations
they
have
regarding
use
of
measure
j
funds
for
capital
projects.
C
C
We
have
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
commissions,
so
we'd
like
to
get
any
final
input
on
that.
We
do
have
a
hold
on
the
convention
center
to
do
a
dinner
likely
a
program
where
we
would
thank
individual
commission
members
for
their
service
and
then
potentially
to
have
some
way
that
each
commission
might
present
for
say
10
minutes
on
what
they've
done
over
the
course
of
last
year
and
what
they
see
ahead
for
the
next
year.
J
J
A
D
I
agree
I'd
like
to
hear
the
presentation.
I
agree
with
the
mayor
that
it
isn't
timely
on
our
end,
though
it
might
be
on
theirs,
but
we
have
a
packed
agenda
with
the
budget
that
night,
but
there
are
frankly
so
few
things
to
do,
for
families
with
young
kids
that
it
is
highly
relevant,
especially
indoor
activities
as
it's
going
to
be
very,
very
hot,
so
it
I
do
it's
relevant
to
me
and
a
lot
of
palm
springs
residents.
A
D
It's
probably
not
the
right
moment,
but
I
do
have
a
request
for
a
presentation
or
it
could
be
an
agenda
item
it's
up
to
council,
but
the
county
riverside
has
received
our
point
in
time.
Homeless,
count
numbers
and
the
numbers
are
actually
very
good
and
surprising
that
on
homelessness
has
decreased,
and
so
I
asked
our
city
manager
if
it's
possible
that
council
could
consider
a
presentation
on
the
point
in
time
count
results.
K
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
few
points.
I'm
sorry,
I
know
it's
late.
The
first
is
just
congratulations
to
palm
springs.
High
school
class
of
2022.
was
their
graduation
today,
a
little
disappointing
to
miss
it.
My
my
little
cousin
graduated
today,
and
so
that
was
nice,
but
I
did
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
just
about
recent
events.
K
You
know.
On
tuesday
we
had
a
meeting
in
desert
highlands
gateway
estates
about
crime
in
the
community,
and
it
was
the
same
day
unfortunately
as
the
uvalde
shooting,
and
then
I
went
to
this
meeting
where
we
were
discussing
violent
crime
and
shootings
that
are
happening
right
here
in
palm
springs,
and
you
know
we
know
that
the
number
one
cause
of
death
among
children
and
teens
is
actually
gun
violence
and
it's
not
just
mass
shootings.
It's
this
gun
violence
that
happens
at
home.
K
K
We've
had
six
teenagers
murdered
in
our
city
since
2019,
and
I
know
there
have
been
multiple
others
who
have
been
injured,
and
this
is
all
due
to
gun
violence,
and
we
heard
the
community
list
a
lot
of
the
same
types
of
things
that
they
usually
do
about.
What
they're
looking
for,
which
is
programming
for
youth,
more
involvement
from
the
police
and
activities
to
help
to
bridge
that
gap
in.
K
That
evening,
there's
also
a
request
for
seven
million
dollars
of
investment
in
the
north
end
of
our
city,
and
this
was
raised
because
of
the
gun.
Violence
and
the
police
had
presented
statistics
that
two
percent
of
the
population
is
up
in
this
north
end
of
town
but
there's
30
percent
of
the
gun
of
the
violent
crime.
K
K
K
What
I
thought
is
enough
in
the
north
end
of
town-
and
this
has
been
something
that
we
haven't.
The
city
has
not
invested
very
much
in
the
north
end
of
town
over
decades
and
it's
not
because
we
don't
want
to
it's
because
it's
been
complicated
and
we've
been
working
towards
things
and
that's
what
I
wanted
to
say
is
you
know
we
have
been
talking
about
housing.
K
Those
lots
because
the
city
owns,
I
think
it's
six
or
seven
residential
lots
within
district
one
on
both
the
north
and
the
south
part
portions,
so
those
those
were
sent
to
habitat
for
humanity
so
that
they
can
evaluate
and
determine
if
this
is
something
that
they
can
do,
and
I
know
that
our
city
staff,
with
code
enforcement
have
also
been
working
to
identify
properties
in
palm
springs
that
are
abandoned,
that
are
beyond
repair
that
we
could
then
take
over
and
begin
land
banking.
So
these
are
these.
K
They
don't
have
as
much
and
we've
discussed
this
before
as
a
council,
and
so
I
do
plan
on
asking
that
we
specifically
earmark
some
funding
and
support
in
our
parks
and
rec
program
to
support
our
pre-teens
and
teens,
and
this
includes
you
know:
job
training,
workforce
development.
That's
why
I
brought.
I
had
johnny
work
on
this
internship
and
you
know
discussion
of
city
jobs
program
and
then
the
last
part
is
just
funding
that
we
can
set
aside
for
grants
and
because
there
are
things
that
we
can't
do
as
a
city.
K
For
instance,
I
worked
with
a
church
in
palm
desert
to
clear
the
land
behind
the
community
center
in
golden
sands
mobile
home
park.
We
cleaned
up
the
inside
of
the
community
room
and
now
it's
empty.
We
removed
two
cars.
I
mean
it
was
disgusting,
but
there's
still
it's
unusable,
but
the
city
can't
really
step
in
and
do
something,
but
we
could
provide
grant
funding
to
a
non-profit
that
could
landscape
it
and
that
could
put
a
playground
that
we
could
work
towards
some
of
these
things.
J
Woods,
certainly
I
can
go.
I
am
the
city's
representative
to
the
southern
california
association
of
governments
and
I
had
the
excellent
opportunity
to
attend
the
general
meeting
that
they
held
in
indian
wells
are
you're
like.
Why
are
we
involved
in
the
southern
california
association
of
governments
where
they're
the
ones
that
give
us
the
arena
numbers
that
tells
us
how
much
housing
we
need
to
build
in
our
city,
but
they
do
a
lot
more
they're
doing
the
work
they
work
on
climate
change.
They
work
on
traffic.
J
J
I
also
wanted
to
just
kind
of
say
that
the
coachella
mountain
conservancy,
which
I'm
also
on
we've,
just
allocated
money
to
riverside
county
to
develop
a
to
do
the
planning
to
develop
a
couple
of
regional
parks.
I
think
that's
important
for
our
valley
as
a
whole.
We're
looking
at
park
at
areas
of
the
valley
that
maybe
don't
are
under
represented
with
parks,
but
they
would
be
available
to
everybody,
and
that
is
just
a
planning
study
at
this
point
and
we're
looking
at
locations
of
what
that
might
be.
J
J
It
was
my
experience
when
I
came
here,
staying
in
a
small
gay
hotel
of
all
things,
as
well
as
the
natural
beauty
that
around
that
really
formulated
the
great
impression
that
I
have
of
palm
springs
and
we
have
the
city
has
embarked
before.
I
was
a
council
member
on
giving
money
to
those
hotels
that
revamped
there's
a
lot
of
change
in
the
small
hotels
because
there's
a
lot
of
times
owned
by
a
sole
proprietor.
J
J
They
have
big
convention,
hotels,
which
we've
got
a
couple
of,
but
it's
our
small
hotels
that
I
think
really
define
us
and
it's
called
the
palm
springs,
preferred
small
hotels
and
they
have
an
organization
that
was
established
in
19.
Excuse
me
in
2016,
and
it
started
off
with
town
hall
meetings
with
the
local
hotel
owners
and
managers
in
partnership
with
the
city
of
palm
springs,
and
they
were
committed
to
the
small
hotels.
Are
anything
that's
50
rooms
or
less?
J
So
it's
just
a
few
of
our
hotels
that
are
more
than
50
rooms,
but
they
those
hotels,
get
a
lot
of
attention
and
the
small
hotels
has
two
kind
of
separate
subgroups
to
them.
One's
called
the
small
hotels,
palm
springs
shops
and
another
one's
called
the
desert
gate
tourism
guild.
So
we
have
kind
of
three
organizations
that
work
to
promote
these
small
hotels
and
and
whatnot
in
the
city.
J
Their
meetings
are
open
to
the
public
and
they're
funded
through
a
one
percent
assessment,
leveraged
levered
leveraged
onto
a
person
who
stays
in
the
hotel
so
what
they
did
and
it's
called
the
tea
bid,
a
business
improvement
district.
They
brought
in
lesbian,
gay,
bisexual,
queer
travel
writers
from
around
the
country
to
visit
palm
springs,
and
I
got
to
meet
with
them
on
a
couple
of
occasions
to
talk
to
them
about
palm
springs.
What
we
have
to
offer
why
people
should
come
here.
J
You
know
all
of
what
our
to
what
our
industry
is,
and
we
had
an
excellent
opportunity
to
get
stories
in
publication
or
hopefully,
we're
going
to
get
stories
and
publications
like
gay
cities
edge
the
irish
times
of
all
things
irish
times,
and
then
one
contributors
with
nbc
news,
cbs
watch
travel,
zoo,
passport,
four
doors.
So
I
hope
we
get
some
some
leverage
out
of
out
of
this
and
what
happens
because
these
hotels,
these
small
hotels,
bring
in
14
million
dollars
in
revenue
to
our
city.
J
We
did
a
tour
of
cannabis
manufacturing,
we
did
a
tour
of
the
retail
shops
and
what
they
mean
and
just
the
whole
process
of
tracking
cannabis
from
the
time
it
is
grown
until
the
time
it
is
ingested
and
it's
an
amazing
process.
The
extraction
process
of
of
getting
oil
out
of
the
trimmings
is
is
fascinating.
It
is
an
industry
that
is
fascinating
and
when
you
go
into
it
coming
from
the
midwest,
I
couldn't
help
but
think
of
two
things.
J
One
was
the
dairy
farms
that
I
grew
up
with
and
and
the
corn
coachella
valley
has
a
very,
very
long
history
of
agriculture
and
it
is
still
entrenched
here.
We
are
the
largest
date
producing
region
of
the
world
way
outside
of
anywhere
in
arabia
or
whatnot.
We're
huge
with
our
date
productions
we're
also
huge
with
our
vegetables
and
things
of
that
you
know
kind
of
the
soft
fruit
type
of
stuff.
J
What's
interesting
about
that,
industry
like
the
cannabis
industry,
is
that
it's
not
subsidized
by
the
federal
government,
where
soy
and
corn
and
all
that
is
fully
subsidized.
So
our
farmers
out
here
in
our
valley
work
on
a
totally
different
model
than
the
model
I
grew
up
with
in
the
midwest,
and
you
know
the
cannabis
is
so
highly
regulated.
I
had
no
idea
you
have
a
tag
on
it
from
the
point
it's
grown
until
it
is
sold
out
of
the
store,
and
it
was
a
fascinating
tour.
J
I
would
suggest
any
council,
member
or
anyone
in
the
community
might
want
to
take
it,
especially
if
they
have
concerns
about
the
cannabis
industry,
but
the
inside
is
also
like
a
motive.
These
machines
are
amazing
and
it's
like
the
automotive,
so
you
have
the
farmers
and
they're.
Actually,
farmers
and
they're
millennials
and
our
cod
is
learning
to
teach
people
how
to
be
in
cannabis
now
which
we
never
had.
J
You
had
to
learn
just
by
going
and
doing
it
with
somebody
usually
in
the
illegal
market,
which
is
totally
legal
now,
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
as
a
really
great
thing,
that's
happening
for
our
city,
promoting
kind
of
cannabis
as
an
option.
If
somebody
comes
here
and
then
I
let
them
know
what
the
rules
and
regulations
were
over
it,
so
it
was,
it
was
great
to
do
so.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
time.
D
Hi,
I
have
a
council
member
request.
I'm
sorry,
I
forgot
about
it
earlier.
I'm
my
council,
fellow
lauren
wolfer,
has
been
working
with.
If
you
remember
the
child
care
facility
on
palm
canyon
called
in
and
provided
public
comment,
I
think
it
was
last
meeting
or
the
meeting
before
saying
they
were
losing
out
on
their
current
facility
because
of
a
speculative
cannabis
shop
and
that
they
needed
assistance,
finding
a
new
location
or
staying
at
that
site.
And
so
my
council
fellow
lauren,
has
worked
really
closely
with
city
staff
and
investigating
different
policies
for
different
cities.
D
And
if
you
recall,
we
had
considered
that
zone.
Zoning
update
where
I
asked
city
staff
to
possibly
consider
any
of
the
barriers
to
child
care
providers
in
our
city,
knowing
that
it
really
is
a
child
care
desert
and
there
are
very
limited
options
and
locations,
and
so
what
we've
learned
through
going
through
this
process
with
the
child
care
provider,
is
that
they'd
have
to
apply
for
a
land
use
permit
or
a
conditional
use
permit,
which
are
often
in
the
thousands
of
dollars.
D
And
so
I'd
like
to
request
that
council
add
to
our
list
a
policy
to
provide
incentives
and
fee
waivers
for
child
care
providers
and
child
care
businesses,
so
that
we
can
spur
and
support
more
child
care
providers
in
the
city,
which
is
a
huge
economic
development
issue
and
worth
it
for
the
city
to
invest.
You
know
sixteen
hundred
dollars
in
a
fee
waiver
for
these
types
of
businesses,
so
I'd
love
to
see
that
come
back.
D
D
A
K
A
I
I'm
open
to
to
having
that
considered.
Certainly
I'm
also
open
to
making
it
more
difficult
for
cannabis
facilities
to
replace
child
care
facilities.
You
know
in
joking
aside,
one
of
my
concerns
early
on
that
I
did
express
here
on
this
diocese,
was
that
the
intensity
of
the
number
of
cannabis
facilities
coming
in
is
going
to
be
counterproductive
to
long-term
commercial
renting,
because
more
facilities
are
coming
in
than
can
be
sustained
economically
over
time.
So
but
I'll
get
off
that
stuff
box.
D
Thank
you
well
I'd
support
that
policy
as
well,
and
I
think
the
city
council
had
attempted
to
do
that
in
amending
our
separation
requirement,
a
factors
that
we
consider
right.
We
had
said
you
know
prioritizing
vacant
spaces
and
not
prioritizing
locations
where
they
pushed
out
an
existing
business,
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
beneficial
to
consider
making
that
stronger,
especially
if
just
pure
speculation
is
pushing
out
needed
businesses
for
residents.
A
Is
there
anything
else
firm?
All
right,
then,
we've
reached
that
point
of
adjournment.
The
next
regular
city
council
meeting
will
be
held
on
june
16
2022,
but
we
will
have
a
special
and
very
important
study
session
on
june,
8th
and
reminder
for
everyone
that
begins
at
1pm
in
the
afternoon
and
that
will
be
devoted
to
the
budget.
We
will
be
joined
in
that
meeting
by
the
measure
j
commission
at
10
29.
We
are
adjourned.
Please
stay
safe
out
there.