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From YouTube: Planning Commission| Mar 9 2022
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City pf Palm Springs Planning Commission meeting, held March 9th, 2022
A
And
I
david,
if
you
would
call
the
role
please.
B
Yes,
commissioner,
mercy.
A
But
you're
not
serving
in
your
capacity
tonight
correct.
How
do
you
want
to
record
that
david.
B
Yeah,
so
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
the
chair
is
not
feeling
well
tonight,
so
she
will
be
off
video,
but
for
all
intensive
purposes.
She
will
be
participating
in
the
meeting
able
to
see
the
video
that
all
of
us
are
seeing
and
has
confirmed
that
she
is
able
to
act
in
her
capacity
as
a
planning
commissioner.
So
if
madame
care,
if
you
just
confirm
that
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
that
would
be
great.
B
Yes,
vice
chair
roberts,
the
agenda
was
posted
on
thursday
march
3rd.
Our
meeting
has
been
posted.
Of
course,
the
state
law.
A
Thank
you,
so,
speaking
to
my
colleagues
now
we
I'm
looking
for
an
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
Any
changes,
thoughts,
comments
before
we
move
forward.
E
A
A
If
you
would
like
to
speak,
you
can
raise
your
hand
where
we
can
see
you
or
you
can
raise
your
hand
through
zoom
or
if
there's
a
gap,
you
can
go
ahead
and
start
as
well.
Who
would
like
to
speak.
B
Mr
roberts,
just
for
a
point
of
clarity,
items
4a,
which
is
the
self
storage
facility
in
item
5a,
which
is
the
vision
and
priority
statements.
Those
are
not
public
hearing
items,
so
anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
on
either
of
those
two
items
would
do
so
now
and
not
at
the
time.
4A
and
5a
are
discussed.
A
A
A
Please,
sir,
tell
us
your
name
and
start
speaking
whenever
you
would
all
right,
hey.
G
I
was
making
to
the
zoo
meeting
concerning
the
nightclub
that
was
gonna,
be
opening
up,
fuego
wonderful,
I
am
opposed
to
it.
I
do
live
in
the
orleans
apartments.
I've
been
here
in
the
palm
springs
downtown
community
for
over
10
years,
and
my
you
know,
my
back
window
directly
faces
this.
This
venue-
and
you
know,
being
in
the
serving
bartending
industry
here
in
downtown
palm
springs
for
over
15
years.
G
I
do
know
what
it's
like
at
a
nightclub
and
just
with
the
traffic,
the
the
noise
everything
that's
going
to
happen.
It
would
completely
disrupt
my
lifestyle
out
here.
It
would
be
tragic.
G
H
Start
hi
thanks.
I'm
dirk
mccullough
with
jackson,
maine
architecture.
This
is
on
item
4a,
the
self
storage
facility
and
I
represent
the
applicant.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
clarify
a
couple
of
things.
There
was
in
the
staff
report.
H
There
is
a
recommendation
with
respect
to
more
screening
and
more
more
plantings,
kind
of
along
the
north
and
east
property
lines,
and
I
just
want
to
make
the
the
commission
aware
that
there
is
also
kind
of
an
overlapping
requirement
with
the
the
riverside
county
airport,
land
use
commission
and
their
planting
requirements,
and
they
do
not
like
trees
or
kind
of
dense
tree
canopies
that
create
habitat
for
for
birds
because
of
the
risk
of
bird
strikes
with
the
the
airport
nearby
just
wanted
to
draw
you
guys
attention
to
that
kind
of
these
overlapping
and
somewhat
conflicting
requirements
that
we
have
just
for
your
consideration.
H
The
other
one
is
a
conditioned
pln5
in
the
staff
report.
This
is
a
small
item,
but
it's
a
prohibition
on
exterior
downspouts
and
this
particular
type
of
facility
and
and
how
they're
they're
generally
constructed
and
they're
not
all
over
the
place.
But
there's
certain
places
where
that
is
kind
of
that's
the
convention
of
of
the
systems
that
are
used
to
construct,
construct
these
buildings
and
so
to
to
to
do
away
with
those
would
be
challenging.
H
We
do
have
kind
of
solutions
in
place
to
protect
them
and
make
them
look
really
nice
and
clean
and
protect
them
from
you
know
from
impact
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
I
just
wanted
to
offer
up
those
two
perspectives.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
A
C
Hi,
I
haven't
seen
you
in
so
long.
Thank
you
for
hearing
my
comments
today.
I'm
here
commenting
on
the
entertainment
venue
in
the
300
south
400,
south
palm
canyon
block.
Maybe
it's
300,
I
don't
know
I'm
just.
I
do
have
some
concerns.
First
of
all,
about
noise
and
then
about
parking.
It
seems
that
it
would
be
very
underparked
for
the
number
of
people
that
would
be
allowed
there,
I'm
concerned
about
the
neighborhoods
and
I'm
just
concerned.
C
Overall,
you
know
we've
been
talking
about
the
general
plan
lately
and
just
you
know
really
what
what
is
the
plan
here
for
palm
springs?
I've
always
been
very
proud
of
palm
springs
to
be
like
no
place
else,
and
I've
always
felt
that
people
come
from
urban
areas
to
be
here,
because
it
was
a
different
sort
of
environment
that
they
were
escaping
to,
but
we're
bringing
on
some
things
that
are
gonna,
really
change
that
personality,
and
it's
not
that
I
don't
like
change.
That's
not
true.
C
I
hate
change,
but
in
this
particular
case
I
just
feel
that
you
know
we.
We
really
are
changing
the
vibe
of
palm
springs,
and
that
might
be
the
direction
that
the
plan
is
going,
but
I
I
hope
that
that's
really
some
thought
is
going
to
go
into
that
and
what
the
future
will
bring
with
these
sort
of
changes.
C
I
You're
up
I'd
actually
like
to
to
pass
my
turn
to
brad
corzin.
If
I
may
and
return
at
a
another
time,
can
you
hear
me.
J
Hi
I'm
brad
corzin,
I'm
the
owner
of
the
avalon
palm
springs
hotel
and
the
ingleside
inn,
and
I
agree
with
many
of
the
comments
that
joy
just
expressed
about
the
about
what
palm,
what
what
I
thought
palm
springs
was
about,
and
I
feel
like
a
nightclub
in
this
location
is
an
absolutely
horrible
idea.
J
J
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
noise,
the
until
two
o'clock
in
the
morning,
the
cars
there's
no
way
they
could
possibly
park
this
nightclub
efficiently
and
without
the
craziness
and
noise
that's
going
to
happen
with
hundreds
of
drunk
people
going
in
and
out
of
there
until
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
on
thursday,
friday
and
saturday
night.
I
think
that
there's
in
I've
been
in
the
hotel
business
for
30
years
and
I've
had
situations
where
there
has
been
nightclubs
around
hotels,
and
I
think
this
is
extremely
inconsistent
with
the
with
this.
J
With
this
neighborhood,
with
this
specific
location,
I
don't
think
there's
any
mitigation
that
can
possibly
be
done.
That
would
be
even
close
to
keeping
our
business
in
the
expectations
that
we
have
for
our
business.
A
B
A
Okay,
how
about
lucy
berman.
J
Evening,
good
night,
good
evening,
thank
you,
commissioners
plan,
commissioner
chair
and
planning
commissioners.
I
submitted
a
letter
earlier
today,
and
hopefully
everyone
has
a
copy
of
it
and
has
reviewed
it.
Concerning
item
2a
on
the
agenda,
that's
the
fuego
nightclub,
we're
very
concerned
about
the
impact
of
this
nightclub
on
the
area
in
the
neighborhood.
J
We
are
representing
a
number
of
concerned
owners
in
the
town,
including
the
del
marco
hotel,
la
serena
villas,
the
350
avalon
hotel,
the
ingleside
inn,
melvin's,
restaurant
and
lounge
chi,
chi,
restaurant,
australia,
spa
and
inclu.
In
addition
to
those
clients,
we
represent
the
31
unit
apartment
buildings,
the
orleans
building
apartment
homes,
which
is
directly
and
adjacent
to
the
plan
project.
J
The
project
proposes
a
maximum
number
of
guests
to
be
at
this
nightclub
of
327
people.
Although
the
existing
parking
lot
has
only
34
spaces,
obviously
there's
going
to
be
a
deficit
of
parking
here,
and
we
know
that
the
project
itself
is
adjacent
to
a
31
unit
apartment
building.
There
have
been
pictures
that
have
been
submitted
by
one
of
our
clients
regarding
the
proximity
of
this
apartment.
Building
to
this
planned
project,
it
would
be
a
nightmare
for
these
residents
of
the
orleans
to
be
living
and
residing
next
to
this
nightclub.
J
The
more
just
one
of
the
most
disturbing
aspects
of
the
proposed
location
that
is,
it
directly
abuts
the
orleans
you're
going
to
have
a
busy
night
club
with
patrons
spilling
out
of
that
club
at
all
hours
up
until
closing
at
2
am
there's
been
no
study
of
the
noise
impact
of
those
patrons
exiting
the
club.
While
there
is
a
study
in
the
staff
report
the
applicant
has
submitted
regarding
the
noise
in
the
interior
club,
there's
been
no
rectification
or
study
of
the
noise
that
will
be
emanating
from
that
rear
parking
lot.
J
Many
of
the
orleans
tenants
are
elderly
and
have
medical
conditions
and
are
not
capable
of
speaking
up
on
these
issues.
However,
their
quality
of
life
will
be
forever
compromised.
Should
this
project
be
approved,
we
urge
the
planning
commissioners
planning
commission
to
give
voice
to
those
residents.
J
It's
also
stated
in
the
staff
report
that
this
the
project
is
not
subject
to
california.
Environmental
quality
act
review
under
sequa.
We
disagree
strongly
with
that
assertion.
J
It's
concluded
in
the
staff
report
staff
concluded
that
the
nightclub
is
categorically
exempt
from
that
sql
review
we
just
and
they
use
and
cite
the
existing
facilities
exemption
to
squa
to
bullet
proof
it
from
sql
review,
however,
that
existing
facilities
exemption
does
not
apply
here.
That
is
for
in
instances
where
there
is
a
like
use
that
was
in
place
before
the
existing
project
is
considered.
J
J
And
on
that
basis,
we
request
and
urge
that
the
planning
commission
deny
the
project.
K
K
Hi
good
evening,
sorry,
for
I
couldn't
get
the
thing
to
work
when
I
was
starting,
so
I've
been
a
resident
of
palm
springs
since
the
70s,
and
I
think
that
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
speaking
have
forgotten
what's
what's
actually
occurred
in
palm
springs.
Back
times
ago
we
had
p.s.
I
love
you
that
was
downtown
palm
springs
right
in
the
center
of
town,
almost
directly
across
from
this
property.
K
K
I
have
three
children
who
left
the
desert
with
many
friends
graduate
of
palm
springs
high
school
in
1981,
their
all
their
children,
have
left
palm
springs
to
go
to
places
like
long
beach,
san
diego
los
angeles,
because
there
isn't
things
to
do
all
these
people
are
making
comment
are
forgetting
about
what
about
the
young
people?
Where
do
they
go,
and
where
do
they
have
things
to
do?
If
you
have
a
person
that
runs
a
business?
Who
is
very
conscientious
of
all
these
things?
This
young
lady
has
done
her
homework.
She
has
done
the
sound
surveys.
K
She's
done
the
different
things:
I've
known
her
for
over
13
years,
she's
handled
property
management,
she's
worked
at
in
in
the
hospitality
industry.
She
works
very
professionally
and
she
won't
tolerate
nonsense
for
all
these
people
that
worry
about
parking.
What
about
all
these
places
that
are
downtown
where
we
used
to
have
ps?
I
love
you
we're
about
chrome
parrot.
There
was
not
parking,
we
don't
have
sufficient
parking
in
palm
springs
for
lots
of
businesses,
but
no
one
complains
about
the
all
the
other
businesses.
K
K
The
city's
done
their
due
diligence
she's
brought
in
the
police
department
to
verify
her
security.
They've
done
all
those
things.
The
guy
that
was
speaking
about
melvins,
all
you
gotta
do
is
sit
outside
melvin's
and
see
all
the
drunks
walk
out.
I've
been
there.
I've
seen
it.
So
don't
give
me
all
that
stuff
I
mean
I'm
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
we
don't
have
places
for
these
young
people,
there's
people
who
are
coming
down
for
weddings
now
and
coming
down
for
bridal
showers
and
and
bachelor
parties,
and
there's
not
a
nightclub
to
go
to.
K
You
know,
like
I
said,
she's
very
she's,
very
organized,
and
it's
it's
really
disheartening
to
me
that
we're
going
to
disqualify
something
in
our
town
when
we've
had
this
in
the
past
and
there
wasn't
an
issue-
I
don't
know
how
long
some
of
these
people
have
lived
there,
but
I
mean
it's
time
that
we
start
looking
at
bringing
people
into
our
town,
like
all
these
other
places
in
long
beach
and
other
places
to
bring
our
people
in
these
young
people
spend
more
money
in
our
town
than
everybody
realizes
we
we
have.
K
I
mean
my
kids,
35
34
and
27
they'll
go
and
spend
hundreds
of
dollars
in
hotels,
restaurants,
all
these
different
things,
and
I
think
that
we're
missing
the
boat
here,
it's
not
just
a
nightclub.
It's
bringing
people
in
to
have
a
good
time
and
enjoy.
We
have
coachella
fest
people
go
to
coachella
fest.
We
have
these
these
venues
that
happen
at
zozo.
We
have
things
that
other
at
saguaro
and
they're
they're.
L
Mr
vice
chair,
if
I
may
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
we're
getting
a
little
bit
off
script
on
the
agenda
here
right
now,
we
are
in
public
comment.
This
is
the
time
for
items.
Four,
a
and
five
a
which
is
the
self
storage
facility
and
the
general
plan
limited
update,
vision
statement.
L
We
are
going
to
be
sc
having
those
public
hearings
later
in
the
agenda
when
we
can
open
the
public
hearing.
I
know
we're
getting
a
lot
of
comment
already
on
fuego
nightclub.
We
can
have
more
of
that
when
we
open
the
public
hearing
later
in
the
agenda,
so
I
would
ask
that
we
can
find
the
public
comment
right
now
to
just
the
self
storage
facility
and
the
general
plan
update
and
then
we're
going
to
get
to
the
rest
of
the
comment
for
the
other
three
hearings.
Thank
you.
M
M
A
A
Seeing
and
hearing
no
further
interest
we
are
going
to
move
on
to
our
agenda.
We
do
not
have
a
consent
calendar
tonight,
so
we're
going
to
move
into
item
number
two,
our
public
hearings.
Our
first
item
is
2a.
B
Yes,
vice
chair
roberts,
we
have
glenn
millacker,
who
will
be
presenting
this
item
for
staff.
N
B
N
B
Swap
screens
placer
roberts
if
we
could
just
read
that
into
the
record.
A
Yeah,
certainly,
this
is
item
2a
lwsc
llc
care
of
pspc
enterprises.
Doing
businesses
fuego
nightclub,
requesting
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
nightclub
cocktail.
Lounge
use
within
an
existing
9504
square
foot,
building
with
an
accompanying
off-street
parking
located
at
383,
south
palm
canyon
drive
in
our
central
business
district
case
5.1544
cup.
N
All
right
so,
looking
at
the
proposed
project,
the
nightclub
at
383,
south
palm
canyon,
drive
just
to
give
the
planning
commission
and
the
public
some
context
as
to
where
the
project
will
be
located.
This
is
the
former
bank
building
which
has
the
red
star.
Pong
canyon
is
here
to
the
right.
N
N
So
looking
at
the
proposed
use,
the
the
site
consists
of
three
floors.
The
first
floor
will
contain
the
entry
area
where
the
patrons
will
come
into
the
site
and
be
id
checked
and
we'll
then
move
to
the
second
floor,
which
is
the
main
room,
and
that
is
what
is
on
the
screen
now,
which
shows
the
area
that
will
be
used
as
a
dance
floor,
a
vip
room
and
there's
other
various
bars,
storage,
restrooms,
elevators
and
a
staircase
that
will
go
to
the
third
floor.
N
So
the
use
is
a
permitted
use
within
the
central
business
district,
with
the
approval
of
a
conditional
use.
Permit,
which
is
here
before
you
today,
and
a
conditional
use
permit,
requires
a
planning
commission
hearing.
You
receive
a
staff
report
and
then
you
receive
comment
from
the
general
public
and
then
you
move
forward
from
there
to
make
your
decision.
So
looking
at
the
building
exterior,
it
is
a
great
mid-century,
modern
building
that
was
built
in
1956.
N
Thanks
to
our
commissioner
marouzi.
This
building
is
on
the
california
registry,
it's
not
on
the
city
registry,
but
it
is
an
historic,
a
resource
to
the
city
and
to
california,
so
you'll
notice
that
the
entry
area
for
the
the
property
is
through
these
glass
doors.
Here
parking
is
underneath
the
unit
the
building
it
wraps
around
and
then
comes
out
onto
palm
canyon.
To
the
right
is
the
new
orleans
building,
which
has
two
commercial
store
fronts
and
then
apartments
on
the
second
floor.
N
So,
as
the
owner
of
the
of
la
serena
bill
is
mentioned,
and
the
owner
of
this
property,
this
does
have
a
common
wall
here.
On
the
first
floor,
the
ground
floor,
so
the
proposed
nightclub
will
occupy
the
building
and
have
a
total
number
of
occupants
of
327
people.
This
is
based
upon
an
exit
analysis
that
was
done
for
the
fire
department
to
determine
how
many
folks
could
fit
into
the
space
itself.
N
They
will
need
to
apply
for
a
type
48
abc
license,
which
is
for
a
nightclub
which
does
not
require
food
service.
They're
available
for
special
events,
theme
nights
hours
proposed
are
from
4
pm
until
2
a.m.
Thursday,
to
sunday,
as
I
mentioned,
the
first
floor
contains
the
entry
id
check.
Second
floor
is
the
dance
floor
bar
restrooms,
back
of
house
operations
and
the
third
floor
will
have
a
dj
booth,
four
vip
rooms,
staff
break
room
and
elevators
and
stairs
there's
much
discussion
about
parking.
N
N
They
made
recommendations
that
they
had
a
quarter
inch
glazing
on
the
and
in
a
one,
inch
air
space
on
the
west
windows
and
I'll
show
the
commission
what
those
windows
look
like
in
just
a
minute
and
then
to
seal
all
exterior
windows,
doors
and
penetrations,
and
this
is
to
contain
the
noise
within
the
space,
so
that
does
not
emanate
out
of
the
building
the
city
hired.
Another
noise
consultant
to
do
a
peer
review
on
that
original
noise
study,
and
that
is
also
included.
The
staff
report.
N
The
the
urban
crossroads
consultant
determined
that
they
needed
to
install
a
permanent
noise
meter
along
the
west
wall
to
monitor
the
types
of
noise
that
would
occur
in
the
parking
lot.
Install
a
noise
attenuation
wall
along
the
entire
west
wall,
not
just
quarter
inch
the
glazing.
N
One
of
the
actions
that's
required
is
that
they
enter
into
a
security
plan.
The
planning
staff
and
our
sergeant
guerino
walked
the
site.
N
So,
looking
at
the
site
itself,
this
is
the
entryway
that
would
you
would
enter
into
the
the
pro
the
structure
and
then
here
is
the
driveway
that
goes
into
the
parking
lot.
Another
view
security
lighting
is
currently
on
the
building.
You'll
see
that
there
are
wall
packs
that
are
light
the
parking
lot.
This
is
the
south
facing
wall,
that's
adjacent
to
eisenhower,
health.
N
This
is
the
rear
of
the
building,
and
this
is
where
there
are
currently
the
two
rows
of
windows
on
two
floors
that
a
single
pane.
You
know
it's
a
1956
building,
so
these
windows
obviously
would
not
contain
much
sound
and
they
are
old
and
and
with
bass
they
may
rattle.
Along
with
the
the
louvers
over
the
the
west
facing
windows,
the
applicant
will
talk
about
the
operations
and
how
this
would
work
is
my
understanding
that
there'll
be
no
access
to
the
balcony
up
here
for
patrons
on.
N
So
this
is
a
view
from
the
balcony
towards
the
orleans,
and
you
can
see
the
green
doors
is
the
entries
to
the
apartments
adjacent
to
this
building,
and
this
is
a
view
from
inside.
Looking
at
the
green
doors,
which
is
the
apartment
next
door-
and
you
can
tell
these
types
of
windows-
are
metal
single
pane.
N
The
recommendation
from
the
urban
crossroads
noise
consultant
was
a
complete
wall,
be
built
here,
so
that
noise
would
not
emanate
outside
and
not
just
put
three-quarter
or
one-quarter
inch
glazing
on
top
of
these
windows,
and
this
is
a
view
of
the
interior
that
would
be
used
for
the
dance
floor.
This
is
looking
down
from
where
the
dj
booth
will
be
on
the
third
floor.
N
N
A
lot
of
these
conditions
were
fashioned
after
an
approval
that
was
given
for
a
restaurant
nightclub
that
is
just
half
a
block
down
called
reforma.
N
We
use
those
types
of
conditions
for
for
formulating
these
for
fuego
sound
mitigation
measures,
control
of
low
frequency
sounds,
and
then
we've
added
a
conformity
review
by
the
planning
commission
within
six
months
after
the
nightclub
is
open.
N
So
vice
chair
that
continues
my
or
concludes
my
report.
I
would
like
to
say
that
we
have
the
sergeant
from
the
police
department
on
the
call
he
agreed
to
come
on
and
and
answer
questions
or
discuss
the
security
plan,
but
he
is
in
between
meetings.
So
if,
if
we
could
have
him
talk,
that
would
be
great.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
malacca.
Yes,
if
sergeant
would
give
us
your
thoughts
on
not
only
the
mitigation
plan
for
noise,
but
just
your
general
take
for
a
nightclub
in
this
location
with
respect
to
how
the
parking
lot
can
and
should
be
handled
if
this
is
approved
and
and
your
take
on
whether
we
really
can
mitigate
the
kind
of
issues
that
come
up
with
people
coming
and
going
from
a
nightclub
after
2
a.m.
In
the
morning.
O
Good
good
evening,
everybody
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you.
Yes,
I
met
with
the
owners
of
the
club
and
did
a
walk
through,
obviously
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
the
general
public
has
brought
up.
O
I
had
some
of
myself,
which
was
obviously
regarding
video
surveillance
security
staff,
all
that
is
expected
and
they're
cooperative
and
they're
going
to
obey
by
those
rules.
Some
of
the
other
issues
which
we
can't
change,
which
would
be
the
parking
we
obviously
have
issues
already
with
fights
afterwards
and
crowding
outside
historically
of
the
village
pub
and
moxie's,
because
they're
right
next
to
each
other.
So
when
they
exit
those
places,
they're
all
go
to
the
sidewalk
and
they
have
to
walk
out
onto
palm
canyon.
O
And
if
you
recall,
we
also
had
issues
with
the
uber
and
lyft
in
those
areas,
because
it's
a
high
speeds
through
there
and
you
have
intoxication
of
people
driving
dui
at
nighttime,
almost
striking
pedestrians.
So
when
you
leave
this
club,
you
only
have
about
30
parking
spaces.
If
I
can
recall,
we
would
have
to
figure
out
where
a
they're
going
to
park,
we
can't
have
them
crossing
palm
canyon
to
the
rite
aid
parking
lot
and
we
did
discuss
with
the
owner.
O
She
advised
that
she
was
going
to
talk
with
surrounding
businesses
to
see
if
they
could
park
vehicles
there
or
have
some
type
of
shuttle
system
set
up,
which
obviously
that's
not
part
of
my
duties,
but
I
did
raise
the
red
flags
of
the
parking
concerns
and
you
also
have.
Unfortunately,
you
have
crime
that
occurs
with
nightclubs.
O
You
have
drunken
disorderly
conduct
vandalisms,
and
we
also
have
a
homeless
issue
in
that
area
as
well,
which
those
businesses
around
there
have
been
complaining
about
non-stop
for
daytime
problems,
and
this
would
also
add
another
issue
of
nighttime
issues
regarding
vandalisms
and
drunk
driving
and
fights
and
noise
complaints.
The
apartments
right
next
door
are
concerned
to
me,
because
they're
so
close
regarding
the
noise.
Historically,
we've
had
a
problem
with
certain
businesses
in
the
downtown
area
and
complaints
came
all
the
way
back
down.
O
The
the
music
comes
out,
goes
west,
bounces
off
the
mountains
and
then
comes
back
east
again.
So
if
you're
on
bellardo
korea,
any
of
those
west
streets
of
palm
canyon,
you're
going
to
hear
some
some
music,
I
do
not
know,
obviously
about
the
sound
deadening,
material
they're
going
to
use
to
reduce
the
noise.
But
you
do
have
those
thin
windows
that
obviously
are
concerned
to
myself,
and
that
is
going
to
be
taxing
upon
the
police
department
and
code
enforcement.
Regarding
the
noise.
A
Oh,
thank
you
sergeant.
If
you
could
stand
by
in
case,
the
planning
commission
has
some
questions
for
you.
I
know
you're
between
meetings
and
if
we
lose
you,
we
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
A
P
Yes,
hi
sergeant
growing,
though,
where
some
of
these
issues
and
concerns
addressed
or
looked
into
for
the
the
planned
nightclub
down
the
street
next
to
bevmo.
O
That
the
we
have
not
got
that
far
yet
I
have
not
got
a
security
plan
for
those
businesses
yet.
P
A
P
Q
I'm
just
curious
with
the
the
last
proposal
that
we
approved
do
they
have
neighbors
that
are
abutting
walls
to
their
building,
as
well
as
this
location
that
we
have
in
front
of
us.
A
Mr
malacca,
can
you
respond
to
that?
I
think
we
do
have
hotels,
a
budding
not
quite
as
much
residential.
N
Commissioner
irvin
you
so
you're
asking
the
previous
reforma
project
or
or
this
project.
Q
No,
the
the
the
previous
project
that
we
just
approved,
maybe
a
couple
of
months
ago,.
N
Right,
yes,
so
that
is
a
a
freestanding
building
that
does
not
have
you
know
residential
buildings
that
abut
right
against
it.
There
is
a
parking
lot
that
separates
them
from
bellardo
to
the
west,
but
there
are
multiple
hotels
that
but
that
line
that
street.
So
even
though
that
they're
not
directly
adjacent
to
it,
there
are
residential
units
nearby.
Q
And
is
it
the
is
it
the
chief
or
who
is
that
that's
on
the
line
with
us.
Q
Can
you
maybe
take
a
second
to
maybe
speak
about
the
level
of
crime
that
we
have
in
that
area?
Do
you
have
any
any
statistical
numbers
for
any
of
the
crimes
that
we
have
in
that
area?.
O
No,
I
do
not
have
any
statistical
data
with
me
right
now,
generally
in
that
area
at
night
time.
There's
there's
nothing
that
is
open
regarding
nightclubs.
O
Well,
we
do
have
rite
aid
across
the
street
and
a
couple
restaurants,
but
those
close
somewhat
early.
I
would
say
pr
predominantly
the
major
issues
would
be
traffic
related,
offenses
on
palm
canyon,
property
crimes
and
as
well
as
homeless,
issues
with
homeless.
In
that
area,.
C
O
Yes,
zelda's
security
plan
was
also
updated.
Yes,
they
did
not
follow
the
video
surveillance
requirements
and
some
lighting
some
video,
basically
the
video
surveillance
issues.
This
has
been
revamped
over
the
last
couple
years
and
I
believe
zelda's
was
probably
the
first
one
which
actually
came
out
with
more
suggestions
on
the
security
plan
regarding
training.
Abc
leads
training,
sexual
harassment,
identification
of
uniforms,
picking
up
trash
in
the
parking
lot,
making
sure
that
these
video
surveillance
was
provided
to
law
enforcement
in
a
timely
manner.
O
These
were
all
things
that
were
changed
compared
to
their
old
security
plan,
so
this
one
is
the
most
updated
security
plan.
C
O
Well,
that's
hard
to
say,
because
it
really
depends
on
what
the
things
we
don't
have
control
over,
whether
it
be
alcohol
related
offenses
people's
bad
decision
making.
O
If
you're
going
to
serve
alcohol,
sometimes
people
get
out
of
hand
and
that's
when
it
comes
on
to
the
training
for
staff,
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
over
serving
that
we're
obeying
the
abc
laws,
calling
cabs
breaking
up
fights
and
identifying
things
before
fights
happen,
and
these
are
all
things
that
I
will
reiterate
and
talk
with
their
staff
about
as
well,
so
they're
going
to
have
the
same
training
that
the
same
training
and
same
requirements
as
other
bars
that
are
in
function
and
and
are
working
within
the
city.
M
Yeah,
I
didn't
have
any
questions
for
the
sergeants,
so
if
anybody
else
wanted
to,
I
would
defer
to
them
at
this
time.
Commissioner,.
F
There's
a
couple
of
them
where
I'm
not
sure
if
the
statute
will
be
the
best
person
to
answer
them
or
not
as
an
example,
I'm
as
example,
I'm
thinking
of
hours
of
operation
for
say
the
village
pub.
I
know
that
there
have
been
problems,
crime
problems
at
the
village
public
incidents
there
do
they
are
they
open
until
2
a.m,
and
does
that
is
that
when
the
problems
occur,.
O
Yes,
the
the
the
bars
close
boxies
and
village
pubs
stop
serving
at
the
same
time
and
the
one
of
the
main
issues
there
is
after
the
bars
close.
O
You
have
people
regardless,
if
they're
from
the
bar
or,
if
they're,
actually
just
coming
after
the
fact
or
if
they're
walking
around
downtown,
they
go
to
the
public
parking
inside
of
the
parking
structure.
So
now
you
have
multiple
people
in
one
spot
getting
into
their
vehicles.
Unfortunately,
sometimes
it's
gang-related
other
times
it
could
just
be
fights
for
whatever
reason
that
that
occur
inside
of
the
bars,
but
it's
not
just
pinpointed
to
those
two
bars.
It
could
have
been
at
any
of
the
other
ball
bars
serving
alcohol
or
a
car
club.
F
In
your
opinion,
would
it
be
a
safer
scenario
if
the
hours
were
limited
and
then
go
till
2
a.m
if
they
were
restricted
until
say
midnight.
O
I
I
couldn't
answer
that,
and-
and
I
I
don't
know
who
has
the
authority
if
the
city
has
the
authority
on
that,
if
you
guys
can
make
that
or
obviously
abc
has
a
specific
time
where
they
have
to
legally
stop
serving
alcohol.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
all
have
the
authority
which
you
may
have
to
limit
the
alcohol
con
times
serving.
We
do
okay.
O
So
if
that's
a
choice
you
all
make,
I
can't
guarantee
because
again
we're
talking
about
people,
we
don't
have
control
over
and
it
will
all
come
down
to
the
staff
at
this
establishment
with
the
proper
training
and
proper
management
and
identifying
problems
before
they
start.
So,
there's
not
a
big
problem.
F
A
Absolutely
commissioner
hershbein.
M
Okay,
so
as
long
as
no
one
else
has
questions
for
the
sergeant,
I
have
a
few
questions
for
staff.
One
of
the
real
conditions
that
you're
suggesting
we
put
on
the
project
is
that
a
noise
monitoring
device
be
installed.
M
N
In
in
speaking
with
our
urban
crossroads
consultant,
I
asked
them
that
that
specific
question
and
they
also
had
another
meeting
that
could
not
be
on
our
zoom
call
unless
bill
is
here,
I
can't
really
see
so
in
the
noise
metering
would
be
linked
to
someone
inside
the
business
itself,
so
they
would
be
able
to
know
if
the
noise
level
exceeds
what
limit
been
set.
So
they
could
react
to
it
and
either
turn
it
down
or
fix
the
base,
but
it
also
would
be
recorded.
So
if
code
enforcement
or
the
police
department
wanted
to.
M
And
and
how
would
somebody
in
management
of
the
of
the
club
be
notified?
If
the
is
it
like
something
in
their
ear,
is
there
a
light
flashing
or
what's
going
on.
N
My
understanding
is
that
there's
and
the
applicant
may
discuss
this.
I
know
that
she's
looked
into
it.
It
could
ring
to
your
phone
there's
an
app
that
it
goes
to
so
there.
There
are
secure
ways
that
it
only
how
you
describe
it
as
far
as
the
noise
just
ending
that
that
wouldn't
be
how
it
would
work,
but
there
are
ways
that
it
notifies
the
manager
inside
the
business
itself.
N
M
L
The
exemption
that
staff
is
citing
here
is
what
we
call
a
class
one
exemption
under
sequa
and
it
consists
of
operation,
repair,
maintenance,
leasing,
licensing
alteration
of
existing
structures,
facilities
involving
negligible
or
no
expansion
of
an
existing
or
former
use.
Now
staff
can
clarify
further,
but
my
understanding
is
that
the
former
use
was
not
a
bank,
but
that
the
former
use
was
an
event
space
again.
I
think
staff
can
clarify
that,
but
I
believe
that
that
was
the
position
staff
was
taking
and
that
that
is
the
class
one
exemption
there.
L
If
the
planning
commission
believes
that
that
this
involves
a
negligible
or
no
expansion
of
the
former
use,
then
you
can
make
that
class
one
exemption
finding
and
move
forward
if
you
believe
that
it
does
not
apply
and
further
sql
analysis
is
merited.
You
can
also
take
that
position
as
well
and
direct
staff
to
do
further
analysis.
M
And
and
if,
if
sequa,
if,
if
the
commission
believes
that
it's
not
a
like
use
and
a
sql
study
is
required,
would
that
address
the
noise
issues
in
a
more
detailed
analysis.
L
It
could
I'm
not
a
sound
engineer,
so
I
can't
say
whether
more
analysis
would
yield
any
further
information
because
there
has
been
extensive,
sound
analysis
done.
But
yes,
if
you
direct
us
to
do
further
sql
analysis,
we
can
take
another
look
at
noise
and
see
whether
any
additional
information
is
necessary.
N
So
flanking
is,
if
you
were
to
in
the
case,
this
is
what
our
noise
consultant
from
urban
crossroads
described.
M
Okay-
and
I
think
I
one
or
two
more
questions
in
under
issues
on
the
first
page
of
your
report,
you
say
the
noise
could
be
contained
if
these.
N
M
Go
ahead,
michael
sorry,
under
number
two
on
the
issues
you're
saying
the
noise
could
be
contained
if
the
mitigation
is
done.
What
do
you
mean
by
contain
does
contain
mean
you
wouldn't
hear
it
outside
the
property
line.
N
So
in
the
the
report
that
was
provided
by
the
applicant,
there
are
several
drawings
that
show
noise
decibel
levels
that
would
occur
with
the
noise
mitigation
and
that's
what
we're
saying
that,
with
noise
mitigation,
the
noise
would
be
contained
within
the
building,
but
within
levels
that
would
not
exceed
the
noise
ordinance.
M
Okay,
all
right,
I
got
that
and
then
I
did
have
one
other
question.
Well,
actually,
it's
not
a
question.
It's
a
comment.
So
an
assembly
area
allows,
I
think
it.
It
was
one
person
per
25
feet.
Is
that
right
for
this
use
to
calculate
parking,
no
occupancy.
N
When
they
do
the
exit
analysis,
it's
how
fast
you
can
have
people
exit
the
building
based
upon
if
there's
a
fire
emergency
based
upon
stairwells
elevators-
and
I
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
head-
what
that
what
each
person
needs
as
far
as
square
footage,
wise.
M
All
I'm
getting
at-
and
I
guess
this
is
more
of
a
comment
but
to
say
that
your
occupancy
level
is
327
people,
that's
how
many
people
can
legally
occupy
the
building
and
then
you
get
up
to
only
34
parking
spaces
or
actually
28
required
spaces
they're
just
seriously
just
there
seems
to
be
a
discrepancy
between
occupancy
and
parking
to
service.
That
occupancy
is
that
so
is
there
any
kind
of
city?
M
N
So
in
the
the
downtown,
the
central
business
district
we
have
in
the
zoning
code,
what's
called
the
downtown
parking
combining
zone
and
that
allows
more
generous
calculations
in
parking
off-street
parking.
So
it's
not
uncommon
around
the
downtown
that
if
you
look
at
a
shopping
center
like
the
spring
shopping
center,
there
is
a
calculation
that
has
to
be
met
based
upon
the
square
footage
of
all
those
buildings
in
the
downtown.
N
It
is
based
upon
mixed
use
and
shared
parking
opportunities
so
with
the
parking
garage
around
the
corner
on
street
parking
people
doing
uber
and
lyft,
or
people
staying
in
hotels
that
have
already
been
parked,
there's
multiple
ways
for
people
to
get
to
a
location.
So
the
parking
ratio
is
calculated
a
little
bit
different
than
if
it
was
a
standalone
business
in
a
general
commercial
zone.
M
N
F
Thank
you.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
staff.
This
proposed
nightclub
is
in
the
central
business
district.
How
long
has
this
building
been
in
the
central
business
district?
N
Well,
it
was
built
in
1956
and
it
operated
as
a
bank
when
it
became
the
the
event
venue
that
was
2015
and
survived
for
or
operated
for
a
few
years
and
has
been
vacant,
probably
since,
before
the
pandemic.
So
two
years
it's
been
vacant.
F
But
for
the
the
orens
and
for
the
other
hotels
that
are
in
the
area,
I'm
wondering
how
long
they
have
been
adjacent
to
buildings
in
the
central
business
district,
where
nightclub
could
have
been.
N
Open
right,
the
orleans
has
been
there
since
the
50s
also,
so
they
they
sort
of
developed
the
same
you'll
notice
on
that
block.
It's
a
very
distinct
it's
it's
sort
of
the
financial
district.
Let's
say
of
of
the
downtown
area
with
all
those
bank
buildings
that
have
since
been
adaptive,
reused
for
like
eisenhower,
and
then
there's
galleries
and
there's
other
uses
that
have
moved
into
those
those
former
bank
buildings.
F
Okay
and
when
the
when
the
bank
became
the
bank
events
center,
did
they
have
amplified
music.
N
F
Okay,
but
they
were
allowed
to
have
events.
I
guess
my
question
is:
did
they
actually
hold
events
that
had
amplified
music
and
did
we
hear
complaints
and
distress
from
the
neighborhood
based
on
those
events?.
N
Right
there,
there
have
been
multiple
events
that
were
there.
There
was
some
modernism
week,
events
that
were
held
there
over
the
years
and
and
at
least
300
people
in
the
building.
F
F
If
there
is
a
review
or
if
there
are
operations
that
are
outside
of
what
is
allowed
under
the
cup,
can
the
coup
be
revoked.
N
N
Have
a
hearing,
a
revocation
hearing,
there's
a
whole
process
of
how
that
would
occur,
and
maybe
the
city
attorney
could
describe
it
better
than
me.
But
it's
something
it's
a
mechanism
that
we
can
use
to,
monitor
and
see
how
things
are
going
with
a
six-month
update.
L
Yes,
mr
vice
chair
members
of
the
commission
yeah.
If
the
permittee
violates
any
of
the
conditions
of
approval
or
provisions
of
the
code
which
are
incorporated
into
the
conditions
of
approval
that
can
be
a
basis
for
revocation.
Procedurally,
it's
not
all
that
different
than
what
we
would
do
with
granting
a
cup.
L
F
Big
recollection,
okay,
so
if
we
establish
conditions
for
the
operation
of
the
business
and
the
business
does
not
follow
the
conditions,
there
is
an
avenue
for
relocation,
it's
not
a
problem.
F
Okay,
and
then
I
guess
my
other
question
would
be
have
the
have
nightclubs
always
been
a
permitted
use
under
cup
within
a
central
business
district.
N
I
would
say:
that's
not
new,
it's
it's
been.
The
p
has
been
required
for
many
years.
You
know
I've
worked
I've
been
here
since
2014
so
or
14
years.
So
it's
always
been
the
case.
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
older
zoning
codes,
but
I
I
would
think
that
it
was
a
conditional
use
that
if
you,
if
you're
not
serving
food
or
a
bona
fide
restaurant,
that
you
would
need
a
conditional
use,
perm.
F
Okay,
already
that's
answers
my
questions
for
now.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
other
questions
for
staff,
commissioner
miller.
D
Yeah,
it's
a
couple
for
staff
regarding
the
noise
review
or
the
six
month
review
that
was
just
talked
about.
Has
there
been
any
examples
where
we've
shortened
that
to
say
a
three
month
review,
as
opposed
to
allowing
some
use
to
go
on
for
six
months
before
it
gets
scrutinized.
A
We
can
we
can
set
any
review
period
that
we
like
in
the
past.
We
generally
set
it
beyond
three
months,
just
to
give
a
business
time
to
get
up
and
operational.
A
Obviously,
if
a
business
starts
badly
and
we
get
a
lot
of
complaints
from
the
police,
we
can
call
it
back
up.
D
In
other
words,
we
don't
have
to
wait
for
the
six
months
to
expire.
Okay,
okay,
another
question
I
guess
for
staff
has
staff
regarding
the
parking
and
the
ins
and
outs
off
of
palm
canyon.
The
way
the
parking
is
currently
angled.
It
seems
to
make
sense
that
there
would
be
one
way
in
and
one
way
out
to
try
to,
hopefully,
minimize
any
potential
conflicts
within
the
parking
area
itself
has
had
that.
One
way
in
and
one
way
out
been
looked
at
at
all,
as
staff
was
reviewing
this.
N
Right,
the
the
spaces
are
striped
at
at
an
angle,
so
that
is
the
intent
that
you
would
enter
underneath
through
the
building
and
then
wrap
around
and
come
back
out
into
palm
canyon.
D
Right
but
the
arrows
on
the
plans
show
ins
and
outs
for
both
of
those
curb
cuts,
so
I
mean
if
this
were
to
move
forward.
I
would
certainly
think
we
would
want
to
condition
that
there
be
signed
one
way
in
and
one
way
out
so
that
it
tried
to
work
a
little
better
than
what
it
might
if
it
follows
the
plan.
D
My
other
question
is-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
for
staff
or
for
the
applicant
at
another
time,
have
they
identified
where
a
smoking
area
will
be
on
the
plans.
I
didn't
see
anything
on
the
plans,
but
I
might
have
missed
some
small
print,
typically
with
a
nightclub
or
any
venue
like
this.
There
is
going
to
be
a
number
of
people
that
want
to
smoke
and
so
they
come
outside.
N
D
All
right,
I
think,
that's
all
of
my
questions
for
staff.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner.
Maruti.
P
N
L
N
Those
are
private
lots,
and
I
forgot
to
mention
in
my
presentation
that
you
did
receive
multiple
letters
from
burned
property
owners
and
one
of
them
was
the
operator
of
that
building
eisenhower,
and
they
did
mention
that
they
it's
a
private
lot
and
they
use
it
most
some
evening,
so
it
would
not
be
available
for
this
applicant
to
use.
So
is
that.
N
P
That
aren't
going
to
get
in
the
rear
are
not
included
in
the
potential
parking
okay
and
then
the
this
issue
of
the
wall
being
constructed.
I
don't
quite
understand.
Is
it
a
concrete
block
wall
in
the
interior
to
block
out
the
windows.
N
We
have
not
received
construction
documents
at
this
time,
so
they
would
need
to
within
the
building
they're
proposing
adding
several
new
restrooms,
which
would
involve
additions
of
plumbing.
You
know,
toilet
fixtures
and
so
on.
So
we
have
not
gotten
those
construction
documents
as
of
yet
so
I
can't
give
you
an
affirmative
answer
as
to
what
the
construct,
what
the
material
would
be
used
to
attenuate
the
noise,
but
it
is
a
condition
of
approval
that
they
provide
get
the
building
permits
to
do
that.
P
N
Without
having
construction
documents,
we
can't
say,
as
you
know,
there's
a
concrete
podium
as
which
is
the
second
or
the
first
floor.
How
plumbing
would
be
used
or
routed
would
be
obviously
reviewed
by
a
her
stock
preservation
board
at
the
time,
because
it
is
a
class
iii
structure.
P
B
Mr
roberts,
I
could
just
add
that's
what
mr
mullacher
said,
because
this
is
interior
work
and
it's
not
a
publicly
owned
building.
Interior
work
can
occur
under
the
city's
historic
preservation
ordinance
so
that
doesn't
require
hsb
review.
Any
exterior
changes,
however,
may
require
review
either
by
the
historic
preservation
officer
or
the
historic
site
preservation
board,
to
the
extent
that
what
information
we
do
have
on
the
exterior
changes,
they
appear
to
be
minor
and
negligible
for
the
property,
so
the
highest
level
review
it.
L
Necessary
as
well
yeah,
maybe
I
can
chime
in
here,
as
mr
newell
indicated,
under
our
historic
preservation.
Ordinance,
only
exterior
modifications
would
be
under
consideration
for
something
like
an
hpo.
You
know
certificate
of
appropriateness
or
something
like
that.
If
the
commission
believes
that
sequa
analysis
should
be
done
with
respect
to
historicity
of
the
building,
that's
not
necessarily
limited
just
the
exterior.
I
mean
you
could
look
at
the
interior
of
that
too
for
sequel
purposes
and
again
I
think
there's
already
been
some.
L
You
know
concerns
raised
about
sequel
by
others,
but
that
is
something
that
could
be
looked
at
from
a
sequel
perspective,
not
from
an
historic
preservation,
ordinance
standpoint.
C
C
N
Right
so
for
infusion.
Remember
that
that
was
an
outdoor
venue,
so
you,
the
commission,
was
concerned
about
outdoor
sounds
because
it
wasn't
you
couldn't
contain
it.
I
mean
it
was
outside
where
we
did
include
sound
limiter
as
one
of
the
planning
commission
conditions,
it
doesn't
say
automatic,
although
looking
at
the
reformer
one,
it
does
say,
maintain
hardware
and
software
volume
limiters.
N
Well
so
you're
saying
that
the
applicant
would
noise
proof
the
adjacent
properties.
C
L
We
can
certainly
require
on-site
improvements
to
mitigate
impacts
that
the
planning
commission
finds
are
necessary.
In
order
to
make
the
cup
findings
of
approval,
we
would
have
to
understand
a
little
bit
better.
You
know
doing
off-site
improvements.
I
think
you
would
have
nexus
to
do
that.
If
you
can
demonstrate
that
the
impact
needing
to
be
addressed,
you
know
is
necessary
to
make
those
findings.
C
N
The
the
the
party
venue
you
mean
the.
C
I
think
the
first
testifier
raised
that
issue.
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
I
that's.
This
is
very
hard
and
the
hotels
complained
with
the
the
last
two
nightclubs
we
put
in
and
they
were
very
similar
complaints
and
they
come
down
the
street
as
they
move.
A
Okay,
do
we
have
other
questions
of
staff
at
this
point?
Yes,
commissioner
miller.
D
Yeah
sorry,
some
of
the
other
things
jogged
one
more
question
for
staff.
Can
you
confirm
that
the
previous
entertainment
venue
here
did
have
a
closing
time
of
10
pm,
which
I
saw
in
some
of
the
correspondence
that
we
received?
In
other
words,
it
didn't
operate
till
even
11
or
midnight,
let
alone
2
a.m.
Could
you
do
you
know
what
the
hours
of
the
entertainment
venue
were.
F
Couple
of
these
questions
we're
prompted
from
conversation
here.
There
are
a
couple
of
other
uses
in
the
neighborhood
that
flood
the
neighborhood
with
vehicles
and
people
parking,
and
I
presume
late
night
door
slamming
and
the
same
type
of
thing
and
I'm
wondering
how
those
might
be
dealt
with
and
if
there
are
any
applications
for
him,
one
would
be
the
women's
club.
They
have
a
small
theater
in
there.
F
N
My
understanding,
the
women's
club
does
not
have
a
conditional
use.
Permit.
You
know
it's
a
use.
That's
been
there
for
many
many
years.
I
have
not
heard
of
any
objections
or
issues
with
operations
that
occur
at
the
club.
F
Because
some
of
those
are
quite
adjacent
to
the
hotels
as
well
also,
there
are
a
couple
of
hotels
that
have
a
lot
of
events
in
that
area
that
have
a
lot
of
events
with
amplified
music
that
serenades
the
neighbors
until
late
at
night,
and
I
never
say
the
name
right,
karokia
kerokea,.
F
Would
be
an
example
of
one?
How
do
they
hold
those
are?
Do?
Are
there
any
requirements
for
the
hotels
as
far
as
limitation
of
the
hours,
the
sound
and
sound
traveling
that
avalon
even
has
some
particularly
you
get
weekends,
where
it's
going
to
be
a
white
party
or
a
hotel,
or
something
and
most
of
the
hotels
in
the
area
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
noise
going
on?
How
are
those
regulated.
N
The
zoning
code
views
hotels
as
having
accessory
or
ancillary
uses
or
activities,
and
that
is
what
we
would
consider
those
types
of
activities,
so
a
hotel
can
have
a
wedding,
can
have
a
ballroom
that
has
conference
meetings
and
so
forth.
So
there's
no
requirement
for
a
hotel
to
come
in
and
get
a
special
event
permit
or
a
cup.
It's
just
part
of
the
operations
of
of
doing
business
as
a
hotel.
A
Excuse
me
close
by
commissioner.
Did
you
have
further
questions?
A
Okay?
I
have
a
question.
Mr
moanker.
We
put
in
a
huge
number
of
conditions
on
the
approval
of
fusion
and,
as
you
pointed
out,
fusion
had
outdoor
music.
A
N
So
the
the
conditions
that
we
use
to
formulate
these
was
reforma
because
it
was
an
indoor
venue,
as
the
applicant
gives
a
presentation.
I
can
look
up
and
see
what
the
ones
were
for
infusion
and
I
can
report
back
to
you,
but
I
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
head
because
we
didn't.
I
used
the
formal
ones
to
formulate
these.
A
Thank
you,
sir.
Any
last
questions
for
staff
before
we
go
forward
with
the
applicant
is
the
applicant
here
to
address
us
tonight.
L
My
name
is
chris
president:
I'm
here
hold
on
you're
there
justine.
R
I'm
here
sorry
it
won't.
Let
me
start
the
video.
A
A
You've
heard
a
lot
of
concern
about
noise,
about
sound
about
crime,
about
your
parking
lot
and
parking
your
connection
to
a
residential
building
directly,
as
well
as
other
residential
and
hotel
uses
behind
you.
I'd
highly
suggest
that
you
spend
this
time
trying
to
convince
us
on
how
a
use
like
this
can
work
with
proximity
to
to
those
other
uses.
R
R
Yes,
my
name
is
justine
boyer,
also
known
as
jay
marie,
and
if
you
would
be
so
kind
I'd
like
to
share
my
screen
and
show
a
slight
presentation
and
go
over
so
most
of
the
concerns
that
the
public
and
as
well
as
commissioners,
have
addressed.
If
that's
okay,
I.
A
R
R
We
are.
My
name
is
jay
marie,
also
known
as
justine
boyer,
I'm
the
co-owner
of
fuego
nightclub.
I'm
a
successful
entrepreneur
born
and
raised
in
the
coachella
valley.
I've
always
had
a
strong
passion
for
music
and
entertainment.
I
have
worked
in
the
entertainment
industry
for
well-known
resorts
here
in
the
coachella
valley.
R
I
work
in
finance
have
managed
an
hoa
with
nearly
400
units,
so
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
rules
and
regulations
and
the
city
codes
and
such
and
so
forth.
Having
owned
vacation
rental
management,
business
purchase
real
estate
myself
and
my
team
are
a
strong
force
that
want
to
improve
the
coachella
valley
and
bring
the
needed
and
wanted
nightlife
to
locals
and
tourists.
R
Our
inspiration,
our
love
for
music,
is
the
main
inspiration
behind.
Before
I
learned
the
whistle
before
I
could
talk
and
being
born
into
a
family
of
entertainers
musicians
and
entrepreneurs,
you
could
say
the
beat
runs
deep
in
my
veins.
Entrepreneurship
was
taught
to
me
at
a
very
young
age.
I
watched
as
generations
before
me
became
very
successful.
R
They
were
an
inspiration,
obviously
to
myself
in
the
community.
They
were
all
a
huge
part
of
my
life.
My
love
for
palm
springs
is
deep,
being
born
in
palm
springs
and
raised
in
the
coachella
valley.
I
see
a
lot
of
potential
for
entertainment
in
the
night
life
here
now.
The
vision,
our
vision
is
to
provide
a
memorable
and
safe
atmosphere
for
both
locals
and
tourists
to
have
a
sophisticated
vibe
that
21
and
older
adults
can
enjoy.
R
R
Fuego
will
cater
to
its
clientele
by
providing
an
upscale
and
elegant
ambiance
with
superb
experience
and
lighting
and
sound
our
menu
will
have
a
variety
of
specialty,
cocktails
and
mocktails
for
those
who
don't
consume
alcohol
or
the
designated
driver
for
the
evening
alternative
theme
nights.
Our
goal.
Excuse
me,
our
guest
will
be
asked
to
come:
dress
to
impress
for
an
amazing
nice
night.
Dress
code
will
be
strictly
enforced.
R
Fuego
will
work
towards
a
shifting
cultural
landscape
that
increasingly
de-emphasizes
alcohol
consumption
as
a
central
component
of
going
out
are
by
reward.
Excuse
me,
by
reorienting
towards
an
experience
and
entertainment
driven
approach.
Staff
will
be
educated
on
the
full
menu
of
unique
offerings,
as
well
as
the
best
djs
and
talents
and
occasional
live
entertainment.
R
R
R
R
R
R
The
second
floor
is
where
the
dance
floor
bar
restrooms
and
vip
areas
are,
and
a
drink
ledge
that
will
run
the
entire
length
as
well
as
a
few
lounge
areas.
The
third
floor
is
the
mezzanine
floor.
It
will
have
additional
restrooms
a
management
office,
break
room
and
four
more
vip
areas,
as
well
as
the
dj
area.
R
This
building,
as
mentioned,
does
have
an
elevator
that
goes
from
the
first
to
the
third
floor,
the
mezzanine
floor,
but
in
our
efforts
for
easy
access
to
all
the
floors,
we'll
be
installing
an
additional
interior
staircase
on
the
north
wall.
On
the
second
floor,
that
will
go
straight
to
the
mezzanine
floor.
R
Fuego
will
have
approximately
25
employees,
including
management
security,
bartenders,
barbecues
servers,
bouncers
and
event,
coordinators
and
promoters.
Now
this
is
the
most
important
one
of
the
most
important
components:
safety,
safety,
comfort
and
great
memories.
Fuego's
tight
security
will
make
anyone
feel
comfortable
to
have
a
night
out.
Fuego
will
take
pride
in
metal
detection,
pat
downs,
id
checks
at
the
door,
as
well
as
any
covered
vaccination
card
checks
per
city
regulations.
R
R
R
R
Another
very,
very
important
thing.
Our
sound
mitigation
plan
it
will
include
the
following.
Our
team
has
obtained
an
acoustical
report
report,
finding
that,
with
necessary
additions
to
the
to
the
building,
fuego
nightclub
will
be
compliant
with
the
city's
code
requirements
for
taking
to
sound
levels.
R
R
We
love
and
respect
palm
springs
and
really
do
what
it
takes
to
make
sure
that
our
noise
levels
do
not
go
over
code
requirements.
The
west
wall.
On
the
second
floor,
where
the
concern
is
that's
located
on
the
rear
of
the
building
and
the
rear
of
the
bar,
it
contains
windows
from
the
1950s
and
in
our
efforts
to
reduce
the
noise
heard
from
the
rear
of
the
building.
R
Now,
here's
a
few
photos,
so
you
can
kind
of
get
an
idea
on
the
left
is
the
west
wall
of
the
building?
That's
the
rear
of
the
building
and
the
rear
of
the
future
bar
on
the
left
side
of
that
photo.
You'll
see
those
1950s
windows
that,
and
you
can
also
see
where
it
would
overlook,
and
possibly
the
noise
escape
on
the
right
side
is
a
solid
wall
which
would
then
be
opened
up
to
be
the
front
of
the
bar
and
then
by
the
windows
would
be
the
back
of
the
house
on
the
right
hand.
R
R
R
Continual
training
will
be
provided
for
all
employees
to
ensure
everyone
provides
the
same
outstanding
service
I'll
touch
a
little
bit
on
our
design
as
it's
not
a
real
main
focus,
but
you
can
see
a
few
pictures
here.
H3K,
kevin
and
howard
local
from
2006
here
in
palm
springs,
will
be
our
designer
for
the
project.
We're
excited
to
give
this
historic,
building
a
little
life
and
a
whole
lot
of
love.
R
Now
our
dream,
I
won't
touch
too
much
just
to
be.
You
know,
cognitive
time,
but
drp
enterprises
made
our
building
design
come
to
life
on
paper,
their
strong
team
of
daniel
chris
who's
on
the
call
joanne.
This
team
has
an
extensive
work
experience
in
public
sectors,
small
large
firms,
including
many
qualifications
and
decades
of
experience
around
california
and
in
palm
springs.
R
B
R
Okay,
this
is
my
last
slide
here.
The
community
benefits
now
I
do
understand
that
there
are
some
concerns,
but
there
are
some
benefits
as
well:
fuego
will
assist
with
job
opportunities,
tax
revenue
for
the
city
and
state
and
building
use
that
will
assist
with
some
of
the
homeless
issues
that
are
occurring
in
that
area.
R
The
potential
of
bringing
fuego
to
life
in
palm
springs
is
definitely
a
dream.
Come
true.
However,
the
area
where
the
club
will
be
located
has
long
been
neglected
as
far
as
tourism
is
concerned,
and
I
believe
that
the
addition
to
the
300
block
of
south
palm
canyon
will
inspire
neighboring
businesses
by
offering
this
for
locals
and
visitors,
the
perfect
dance
location
that
is
safe
and
fun.
Our
team
is
prepared
to
provide
a
five-star
experience.
We
know
that
fuego
will
be
a
palm
springs
worthy
destination.
A
Thank
you,
miss
boyer.
I
suspect
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
questions
for
you.
I'd
like
to
direct
questions
to
the
applicant.
Please
keep
these
two
questions
at
this
point
so
that
we
can
have
the
public
respond
to
this
as
well.
B
A
You'd,
like
okay,
public
first
okay,
I'd
like
to
then
invite
the
public
to
comment
and
question
on
on
this
applicant.
Understand
that
it's
difficult
to
see
you
so
either
show
me
a
zoom
hand
or
make
your
voice
heard
that
you'd
like
to
speak.
G
G
G
Pomp
springs
always
has
been
about
entertainment
and
glamour,
and
I
I've
seen
through
the
years
I've
seen
all
these
casinos,
but
I've
seen
our
nightclubs,
they've
been
they've,
been
dwindling,
and
I
agree
with
the
other
gentleman
who
said
that
there's
nowhere
for
our
younger
people
to
go
and
that
we're
losing
business,
because
they're
going
to
other
big
cities
like
we're
going
to
riverside
or
the
orange
county
to
go
and
get
their
entertainment
and
they're
leaving
palm
springs
where
they
should
be
spending
their
money,
and
I
find
the
opposition
quite
surprising
because
from
what
I
hear,
this
is
just
going
to
be
a
fabulous
upscale
nightclub
and
with
such
a
large
hispanic
and
latin
community,
I
can't
imagine
it
being
anything
but
a
hit.
G
So
I
just
really
really
hope
that
the
city
considers
bringing
this
on,
because
it
sounds
like
a
really
great
opportunity
and,
as
miss
boyer
mentioned,
this
block
has
long
been
ignored
and,
as
far
as
the
homeless
goes,
having
it
occupied
is
going
to
be
a
much
better
thing
than
it
being
neglected,
as
it
is
right
now.
G
A
G
I
Yeah
thank
you
for
for
letting
me
comment
tonight
and
yeah.
That
was
a
really
nice
deck
and
it
it
sounds
like
a
nice
club
and
everything.
My
name
is
lars
vickland
by
the
way-
and
I
am
the
owner
of
the
oralians
apartment
buildings
and
the
two
commercial
spots
right
next
to
the
side
of
the
where
the
bank
is
and
and
yeah
it
does
look
like
a
nice
deck
and
everything,
and
I'm
glad
that
they
did
the
sound
study
on
the
inside.
I
I'm
really
concerned
about
my
tenants
that
live
there.
They've
lived
there
for
a
long
time.
I've
spent
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
on
that
building.
I
think
that
tenants
deserve
a
nice
place
to
live
a
peaceful
place.
The
buildings
are
right
next
to
each
other
in
certain
places,
not
one
foot
apart,
but
they're
actually
joined
together
and
in
a
lot
of
places,
the
patios
and
the
front
doors
and
the
living
rooms
of
the
tenants
face
the
building
and
the
parking
lot
the
parking
lot.
I
In
addition
to
that,
I
also
own
other
businesses
that
are
pretty
close
to
where
the
bank
is,
I
own,
the
350
hotel,
the
lost
serena
villas
and
the
del
marcos,
which
I've
owned
for
over
20
years.
I've
renovated
and
I've
rebuilt
most
of
these
buildings.
I've
spent
tens
and
tens
of
millions
of
dollars.
I'm
already
have
enough
issues
with
the
village
pub
and
moxie
and
the
homeless,
and
we
definitely
don't
need
more
noise.
We
also
have
issues
with
parking
major
issues
on
thursday,
friday
saturday
and
sunday
night,
where
my
guests
they
go
out
to
dinner.
I
They
come
back,
they
don't
have
anywhere
to
park
because
all
the
people
that
are
going
downtown
to
the
clubs
they
park
inside
of
our
spaces
of
our
apartment
building
and
our
and
my
three
hotels.
So
it's
already
a
disaster
enough
for
parking
to
have
that
limited
amount
of
space
is
not
right.
I've
also
heard
a
few
comparisons
about
have
we
heard
complaints
from
the
women's
club,
and
I
don't
think
you
can
compare
the
women's
club
to
the
events
they
have
there.
I
I've
been
to
a
lot
of
them
to
what's
going
to
be
going
on
at
the
bank,
and
also
there
was
a
mention
of
have
there
been
complaints
of
previous
events
that
happened
at
the
bank
and
a
few
of
them
I've
been
to
which
is
modernism.
Events
and
they've
usually
are
pretty
quiet.
They
close
at
10.,
it's
a
very
different
type
of
patron.
That's
going
to
be
going
to
fuego.
That
would
be
going
to
a
modernism
event.
I
So
I
very
much
am
opposed
to
this.
I've
spent
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
on
making
bellardo
baristo
the
whole
area.
I
Palm
canyon
drive
to
make
it
better
to
make
it
quiet,
peaceful,
and
I
think
this
is
a
really
really
terrible
idea,
no
matter
what
you
you're
going
to
give
them
three
months,
it's
not
going
to
work,
there's
no
way
that
you're
going
to
contain
the
noise
you're
going
to
contain
the
fighting.
I
see
it
already
happening
in
the
parking
lot
across.
I
I
Thank
you.
My
name
is
matt
shuck.
I
just
want
to
ensure
it's
been
noted
on
the
record,
the
opposition
on
this
project
from
the
eisenhower
health,
ceo,
martin
maciello.
I
I
wish
to
verbalize
that
that
as
much
as
I
can
on
behalf
of
eisenhower,
there
is
concern
for
the
project
that
is
to
be
located
at
383,
south
palm
canyon,
eisenhower
health
operates
a
multi-specialty
outpaced
clinic
located
at
415,
south
palm
canyon.
The
clinic
is
immediately
adjacent
to
the
project.
Eisenhower.
Health
is
opposed
to
this
project.
For
several
reasons.
They
understand
that
they
are
proposing
to
construct
a
nightclub
with
maximum
number
of
guests
to
be
327
people,
even
though
the
project
only
has
34
parking
spots.
I
Despite
this
fact,
the
project
proposes
to
operate
between
4
and
2
am
with
no
consideration
seems
to
be
made
for
the
noise
that
patrons
will
make
when
entering
and
leaving
the
large
club,
especially
in
the
parking
lot
next
to
the
clinic
during
the
hours
of
operations,
notably,
several
of
the
physicians
offices
are
located
on
the
north
side
of
the
clinic
on
right.
Next
to
the
project
side
and
the
physicians,
there
usually
work
well
past
5
pm
to
communicate
with
their
clients.
I
Eisenhower
believes
the
operation
full-throtted
nightclub
in
the
clinic
neighborhood
would
only
exacerbate
the
many
problems
they
already
had
with
village
pub
and
moxie
establishments,
creating
noise
and
parking
issues.
There
are
also
existing
problems
with
homelessness
and
drug
dealing
across
the
street
at
bevmo
and
rite
aid.
All
these
problems
have
already
led
to
property
damage
on
the
eisenhower
building,
trespassing
in
the
clinic,
including
unauthorized
use
of
the
parking
lot,
vandalism
and
constant
litter
and
debris
left
behind,
as
mentioned
above.
I
There
are
going
to
be
noise
problems
not
emanating
from
large
number
of
patrons
who
will
be
coming
going
that
overlap
with
the
clinic
operations.
Likewise,
there's
a
concern
that
the
issues
of
parking
and
traffic
have
not
been
carefully
considered
in
connection
with
this
project.
I
The
project
will
obviously
not
come
close
to
satisfying
the
parking
requirements
of
37
people,
and
this
is
in
a
neighborhood,
that's
already
suffering
from
efficient
available
parking,
and
they
have
experienced
problematic
first-hand,
as
they
are
trying
to
avoid
others
from
using
their
parking
lot,
such
as
hotel
gas
departments
and
other
tourists.
I
These
parking
challenges
are
already
tough
and
especially
during
a
busy
weekend
and
with
327
people
looking
to
go
through
there,
it's
only
to
cause
more
motor
vehicle
challenges
and
and
as
those
fight
for
the
nearest
parking
spot,
so
they
they
definitely
anticipate
that
we
have
to
incur
the
cost
of
hosting
a
security
guard
in
the
eisenhower
parking
lot
at
their
expense
and
monitor
the
clinic
during
the
property's
operation
of
the
nightclub.
I
So
for
those
reasons,
mr
martin,
massiello
and
eisenhower
health
have
opposed
the
project
since
it'll
already
cause
difficult
conditions
in
the
neighborhood
become
worse.
A
C
This
is
kelly.
Vickland
I'd
like
to
just
make
a
little
statement.
C
I'm
actually
the
wife
of
lars
who
spoke
a
little
bit
before,
and
he
and
I
are
the
only
ones
that
are
the
owners
of
the
orleans,
the
350
la
serena
villas
and
the
del
marcos,
and
we
don't
have
a
ton
of
investors
and
I've
met
with.
You
know
many
of
you
before,
because
we
had
to
jump
through
hoops
to
get
any
of
our
projects
built,
especially
la
serena
villas,
which
we
put
our
heart
and
soul
into
and
we've
you
know
have.
C
We
also
have
employees,
I'm
curious
to
know
how
they're
going
to
get
all
these
employees
because,
as
we
know,
everyone's
short
staff
to
really
monitor
all
of
these
problems.
So
I
too
really
really
would
like
this
projector.
I
mean
we
had
to
even
build
a
parking
lot
and
for
our
hotel.
It
was
supposed
to
be
originally
27
rooms,
it's
18
now,
because
we
had
to
comply
and
guarantee
parking
for
our
own
property.
C
So
I
don't
know
how
you
know
it
looks
great
on
paper,
but
I
don't
know
how
really
that's
going
to
be
able
to
be
monitored,
and
maybe
the
inside
noise.
I
don't
know
for
my
tenants.
So
I
just
I
already
feel
so
bad,
and
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
we're
talking
about
the
tenants,
but
really
our
hotel
guests
of
the
ingleside,
the
avalon
and
all
three
properties
that
I
just
mentioned.
C
I
mean
that's
all
of
our
bread
and
butter,
we're
all
about
making
their
stay
the
best
it
can
be,
and
if
we're,
how
do
we
combat
this?
How
how
could
this
possibly
be
good
for
any
of
our
businesses?
This
is
how
we
make
a
living.
This
is
how
we
supply
so
many
employees
and
with
their
living
as
well.
So
I
don't
know
it
just
seems
like
we're
going
to
be
extremely
compromised,
and
you
know
we
already
are
dealt
with
so
much
since
kovid
and
now
this
is
just
like
the
nail
in
the
coffin.
B
A
Okay,
okay,
I'm
gonna
close
public
hearing
on
this.
Are
there
I'd
like
to
give
the
applicant
three
minutes
to
respond
to
what
they've
heard
hello.
E
Oh,
I
just
want
to
say
very
quickly.
My
name
is
robert
bergman
and
I
worked
for
kelly
and
lars
for
quite
a
long
time,
and
I
can
tell
you
personally
as
the
front
desk
supervisor
that
and
later
a
manager
I
dealt
with
the
noise
issues
standing
on
the
front
steps
of
the
hotel.
E
You
can
clearly
hear
the
music
from
moxie
and
village
and
we
worked
to
try
and
get
conditions
put
on
reforma
that
included
having
guards
in
the
parking
lot,
which
was
the
best
we
could
do
when
that
sailed
through
planning,
commission
and
council.
This
fourth
nightclub
in
the
same
block,
I
think,
really
begs
the
question.
E
In
the
morning
I
mean
the
reformer
project
has
a
capacity
I
believe,
of
450
this
one's
325.,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
village
is
or
moxie,
but
they're
substantial
as
well,
and
so
I
think
we're
getting
up
to
you
know
an
issue
of
can
facilitate
that
many
people,
and
so
I'm
sorry
for
this
applicant
to
be
sort
of
the
one
that
has
to
bear
the
brunt
of
that.
E
A
A
Okay,
so
do
I'd
like
to
give
the
applicant
three
minutes
to
respond
to
what
they've
heard
tonight.
R
Thank
you.
The
main
concern
that
I'm
hearing
as
well
as
others,
is
definitely
safety,
noise
and
parking.
If
I'm
understanding
this
correctly,
we
do
have
an
extensive
security
plan
that
we
will
abide
by
and,
as
we
all
know,
if
any
club
or
any
business
doesn't
abide
by
it,
it's
revoked
the
cop.
R
So
there's
that
I
mean
we
will
be
having
revolving
security
agents
in
the
parking
lots
ensuring
that
people
are
not
causing
a
lot
of
noise
when
and
hanging
out
and
loitering
in
the
parking
lot.
That's
not
our
aim.
Our
the
fun
is
inside
not
in
the
parking
lot
the
noise.
If
we're
able
to
control
the
noise
interior
wise,
it
will
lessen
the
noise
when
coming
out
of
the
building,
and
I
can
actually
you
can.
R
A
A
L
L
L
Of
course,
if
we
get
there,
but
we
will
be
working
with
these
sound
engineers
and
get
betting
our
design
through
them
to
make
sure
our
stc
levels
are
lower
than
what
you
know
is
being
proposed
right
now.
It's
at
50
we
can.
We
can
try
to
through
use
of
various
materials,
rc
channels,
various
layers
of
jip
air
spaces
mitigate
the
sound
as
it
exits.
You
know
as
it
moves
through
the
main
space.
L
That
being
said,
we
really
have
to
think
about
how
this
project
is
going
to
move
forward
with
the
sound
being.
I
think
at
this
point
the
main
issue,
and
so
based
on
that,
if
we
just
simply
think
about
the
sound
report
and
if
we
all
think
that
we're
all
we're
going
to
be
applying
the
sound
report,
sound
engineers
advice
to
this
project
that
should
mitigate
any
sound
issues,
we
have
I'm
not
guaranteeing.
L
I'm
not
saying
I'm
not
a
sound
engineer
that
there
will
be
noise
coming
out
of
the
building,
but
we
will
be
following,
and
our
efforts
will
be
to
bring
that
level
down.
I
want
to
make
that
very
clear.
It
isn't
something
that
we're
taking
lightly
we're
actually
going
to
be
working
very
very
efficiently,
with
the
sound
engineer
to
provide
that
stc
level
to
a
point
that
it
won't
be
an
issue
again.
We
can't
we
can't
stop
the
sound
from
coming
out
of
the
building,
but
we
can
at
least
limit
it.
L
There's
tons
of
ideas
being
floating
around
with
a
limiter
directly
to
the
dj.
I
think
that's
excellent.
I
think
that
we
can
incorporate
that
type
of
thing
into
the
system
where
the
dj
has
control
and
can
control
the
base
and
the
sound
levels
once
he
sees
on
his
monitor
that,
in
fact,
the
sound
little
levels
are
reaching
the
the
point
where
we
shouldn't
be
applying
any
more
sound.
So
there
are
ways
of
mitigating
this
sound
and
I
I
again
I
believe,
that's
the
that's
the
main
issue
that
we're
trying
to
solve
here.
L
Parking
can
be
resolved
later
in
terms
of
if
we
can
work
with
other
properties
to
try
and
utilize
other
properties
parking
lots
like
down
the
down
the
way.
There's
a
vacant
strip
mall
that
potentially
we
can
ask
and
lease
parking
spaces
from
them.
That's
pretty
much
all
I
have
oh.
The
last
thing
is
no
smoking.
L
I
was
texting
with
justine
right
now,
we're
I
don't
have
any
indication
that
we're
gonna
be
put
in
a
smoking
area.
This
will
be
a
no
smoking
club.
L
A
Okay,
thank
you,
sir
okay.
I'm
gonna
bring
this
back
to
the
commission
now
for
questions
and
comments
of
the
applicant
who
would
like
to
start.
Q
Th
this
this
comment
is
for
jim
and
david
newell
we
are
is
what
happened
with
with
vice
chair
roberts.
Is
that
acceptable?
We
are
here
for
the
public
and
the
public
to
also
have
comments.
Yes,
so
are
we
able
to
hear
that
public
comment.
B
It's
yeah
it's
at
the
discretion
of
the
commission.
The
person
who
was
speaking
with
did
submit
a
public
comment
which
was
forwarded
to
the
planning
commission.
It's
it's
really
up
to
the
commission
if
they
wish
to
continue
open,
reopen
the
hearing
and
allow
additional
comments.
Q
I
I
I
would.
I
would
like
to
hear
what
the
public
has
to
say.
So
that's
just
my
opinion.
Okay,
thank.
D
Yeah
for
the
applicant-
and
I
know
we
heard
from
mr
priscilla-
you
are
going
to
have
patrons
if,
if
this
goes
forward,
you
are
going
to
have
patrons
that
will
want
to
smoke,
understand
that
there
won't
be
any
place
inside,
but
they
will
want
to
go
outside
and
if
there's
not
a
designated
spot
and
security
surrounding
that
spot,
there's
going
to
be
a
mess
either
in
the
parking
lot
or
in
the
front
of
the
building.
D
D
The
other
is
just
a
comment
to
the
applicants.
The
spiral
stairs
inside
going
from
the
second
level
to
the
mezzanine
is
that
a
new
stairway
or
is
that
existing.
L
I
can
speak
to
that.
What's
happening
is
based
on
the
occupancy
of
the
third
level
itself,
we're
going
to
be
putting
both
the
spiral
staircase,
which
will
be
mainly
a
showcase
kind
of
thing.
It
won't
will
not
be
for
egress
these.
These
second
stairway
will
lead
along
the
north
wall
down
from
the
mezzanine
into
the
second
level
for
exiting
purposes
that
spiral,
staircase
will
be
a
a
branding
of
sorts,
and
I
and
justine
can
definitely
speak
towards
it,
but
the
idea
it
won't
will
not
be
used
for
egress.
L
It
will
be
used
mainly
as
a
as
a
showcase
piece
and
the
actual
egress
will
occur
at
on
the
north
wall,
with
an
actual
staircase
from
the
mezzanine
to
the
second
floor,.
D
L
It
is
not
it's
being
excluded
entirely.
In
fact,
your
plans
may
be
a
little
bit
older,
but
there
the
plans
that
we'll
be
proposing
and
putting
forward
to
the
building
department
as
they
do
their
code
analysis
in
itself
will
show
the
egress
going
down
from
the
north
wall
along
the
north
wall
from
the
mezzanine
again
that
that
spiral
staircase
will
not
be
used
for
egress.
L
D
I'd
suggest
you
rethink
that
that
sprout
staircase
is
a
disaster
waiting
to
happen,
and
I
don't
know
if
your
insurance
agent
has
looked
at
that
yet
so
just
that's
just
a
comment
on
that
again,
assuming
this
goes
forward.
That's
my
final
comment
for
the
applicant.
P
Hi
there
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
and
the
planning
commission.
This
is
directed
at
jay.
Marie
people
have
brought
up
the
issue
of
zelda's
and
you
have
been
in
the
coachella
valley.
Just
explain
to
us
how
you
will
be
different
than
zelda's
in
terms
of
every
aspect
of
how
you
will
be
different.
R
You
know
that's
a
great
question.
I'm
glad
you
asked
zelda's
is
a
prime
example
of
what
started
out
great,
but
then
ended
up
being
what
not
to
be
okay
once
upon
a
time
it
was
a
great
club
and
unfortunately,
they
failed
in
many
aspects
regarding
with
the
palm
springs
police
department,
with
their
cuv
application.
R
R
A
I
have
a
question
I
I
I'm
gonna,
be
honest
with
you.
You
sound
like
you're
gonna,
it's
a
great
club
in
the
wrong
location.
A
A
R
Thank
you.
So
our
our
plan
is
to
not
just
have
a
revolving
security
guard.
It's
multiple
guards
without
within
the
parking
lot,
possibly
even
one,
on
each
corner,
to
ensure
that
when
the
when
we
see
that
somebody
is
coming
out
and
they
have
actually
parked
in
that
parking
lot,
we
assist
to
not
have
them
lingering
in
the
parking
lot
we
assist
to
have
them,
leaving
quietly
as
quite
as
possible.
R
You
know
and
definitely
not
making
it
disruptive
for
the
neighbors
around.
We
definitely
hear
the
concern
and
take
it
to
heart
that
we
understand
that
this
residential
building
is
located
in
the
cbd
district,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
are
not
going
to
do
everything
we
possibly
can
with
security
guards,
possibly
bouncers
in
the
parking
lot
as
well.
Everybody
will
be
equipped
with
either
walkie-talkies
radios
cell
phones
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
in
communication.
R
If
there's
an
issue
in
the
parking
lot,
somebody
is
always
able
to
either
call
one
of
the
staff
that's
inside.
That
can
assist
with
it
that
if
they
need
further
staff
or
if
there's
something
that's
already
happened,
we
are
very
trained
and
self-aware
of
how
we're
going
to
handle
those
problems
and
contacting
the
palm
springs
police
department,
if
needed.
R
There's
gonna
be
plenty
of
people
in
the
parking
lot,
as
well
as
inside
the
building
that
will
assist
with
disruptive
behavior
people
who
have
possibly
drank
too
much
if
they
have
drinking
too
much
our
bartenders,
our
bouncers
or
security
guards
will
all
be
able
to
identify
the
the
signs
of
when
somebody
needs
to
be
cut
off
or
actually
escorted
out
of
the
building
to
leave
the
premises.
R
Multiple,
yes,
and
that
4
pm
time
of
4
p.m,
to
2
p.m.
That
would
only
be
if
there
was
a
special
event.
Somebody
who
wanted
to
use
the
the
space
for
a
wedding,
reception
or
such,
but
that
wouldn't
be
daily.
Our
night
hours
would
be
from
9
00
p.m,
until
2
a.m.
Those
are
the
days
of
the
night
club
per
se,
but
there
will
be
multiple
people
within
the
parking
lot
to
mitigate
this
and
not
have
any
problems.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Are
there
other
questions
or
comments
at
this
point
from
staff?
I
do
want
to
allow
the
woman
identified
as
brit
to
give
us
a
comment,
although
she
was
outside
of
our
public
hearing,
but
before
I
do
that
any
comments
or
questions
from
the
commission
before
we
have
a
discussion
among
ourselves.
G
A
G
Okay,
so
I'm
a
tenant
at
the
orleans
apartments-
and
I
understand
what
the
commissioner's
saying,
but
how
can
you
say
that
you'll
be
able
to
handle
everything
dealing
with
the
drunk
person?
I
mean:
that's,
that's
a
problem
in
itself,
drunk
people,
that's
going
to
cause
a
lot
of
noise.
I
live
here,
there's
already
problems
with
the
parking.
G
If
you
build
a
nightclub
next
to
us,
there's
going
to
be
problems
with
crime,
there's
going
to
be
coming
in
crowds,
there's
going
to
be
a
list
of
problems
and
it
doesn't
seem
very
fun
or
very
smart,
we're
normal
people.
We
have
a
job,
we
need
our
sleep
at
night.
This
is
going
to
be
a
big
disrupt
to
the
quality
of
our
life
completely.
I
strongly
strongly
just
oppose
this.
I
know
I'm
a
voice
for
the
tenants
here
as
well,
and
we
don't
want
this
to
happen.
G
Yeah
we
just
we
don't
want
this
to
happen
at
all.
I
don't
I
don't
see
any.
Would
you
like?
Would
you
like
to
be
to
have
a
nightclub
as
your
neighbor?
Can
I
ask
you
that.
A
R
I
I
can
touch
on
it.
Obviously,
we
cannot
control
entirely
how
people
behave,
but
we
can
definitely.
If
we
have
a
strong
plan
and
a
great
team,
we
will
be
able
to
escort
people
out
with
with
ease
or
maybe
not
with
ease,
but
we
will
definitely
be
able
to
mitigate
the
noise
and
the
drunk
people.
Our
parking
lots
do
not
cannot
be
accessed
through
the
back
or
the
side
or
anything
like
that.
So
our
tenants
and
their
I
mean
excuse
me
our
attendance.
R
A
B
Vice
chair
roberts,
I
see
chair
wehrmacht,
has
a
comment
or
question.
Oh.
C
Hi
there
I
do
think
and
agree
with
the
vice
chair
that
you're
in
some
ways,
victim
of
being
the
fourth
nightclub
in
this
area,
and
we
had
concerns
when
we
approved
the
village
pub,
probably
a
few
less
concerns
about
the
old
robinsons
building,
but
clearly
there's
a
problem.
This
is
an
area
I
would
love
to
activate,
but
I
don't
see
how
we
can
do
it.
C
C
C
These
hotels
have
raised
the
same
issues
on
every
single
one
of
the
entitlements
we've
granted,
and
I
know
that
they
have
suffered
under
some
of
the
music
and
noise,
and
we
have
also
struggled
very
hard
to
to
support
these
hotels
when
they
came
in
and
we
were
very
friendly
so
that
it's
it's
a
clash.
C
D
D
D
There's
just
no
way
of
mitigating
the
noise
to
the
point
where
residents
and
hotel
guests
immediately
adjacent
to
the
property
are
not
going
to
be
negatively
affected.
I
don't
believe
this
is
a
sql
issue.
I
think
the
sql
exemption
is
fine.
This
is
this
is
a
localized
conditional
use,
permit
adverse
impact
issue,
and
so,
for
my
purposes,
I
can't
make
the
findings
number
two
and
number
three
of
the
conditional
use
permit.
So
that's
what
I
would
be
objecting
to
this
use
at
this
location
based
on.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner
elaine
and
then
commissioner
irvin.
F
This
has
been
a
very
interesting
conversation.
I
have
changed
my
opinion
from
reading
the
background
and
taking
a
look
at
the
material
presented
through
the
meeting
and
listening
to
people.
My
instinctive
feel
is
that
there
is
always
tension
between
commercial
and
residential
uses
when
they
back
up
to
one
another
and
that
if
you
have
an
established
commercial
use
or
industrial
or
whatever
it
is,
and
people
choose
to
live
or
choose
to
vacation
adjacent
to
it.
F
They
cannot
expect
for
you
to
change
the
way
that
you
do
business
based
on
the
fact
that
they
want
to
or
they
don't
want
to
be
disturbed.
I
personally
live
close
enough
to
downtown
that
I
hear
it
remembers.
I
hear
the
news.
Okay
here
are
the
hotels
I
choose
to
live
in
that
location,
because
I
like
the
activity.
F
I
like
the
fact
that
I
can
walk
to
restaurants.
I
can
walk
to
nightclubs.
I
can
take
advantage
of
everything,
that's
there.
Similarly,
I
think
that
the
hotel
guests
will
choose
to
stay
in
a
hotel
if
they
want
nightlife
in
a
downtown
hotel
if
they
want
nightlife,
if
they
don't
they're
going
to
pick
a
hotel.
That
is
on
a
resort
on
a
different
setting
or
a
different
place
in
town.
F
Therefore,
I
came
in
thinking
that
it
is
an
appropriate
use.
It's
allowed
with
the
cup.
It
would
be
a
good
business.
We
certainly
certainly
need
things
for
young
people.
F
However,
in
listening
to
the
information
that's
been
presented
and
considering
it
further,
I
recognize
that
a
conditional
use
permit
is
required
so
that
you
can
pose
the
conditions
upon
which
the
business
will
work
with
their
neighbors,
and
I
am
convinced
from
what
I've
heard
that
there
aren't
enough
patients.
They
aren't
appropriate
conditions
that
we
could
apply
to
this
application
to
make
it
a
successful
neighbor
to
the
surrounding
both
the
residents
and
the
the
hotels.
F
I
personally
believe
that
if
this
were
for
a
hundred
or
maybe
120
people
a
much
smaller
club,
then
it
would
be
the
addition
that
the
neighborhood
needs
that
will
continue
to
be
attractive
for
the
the
balance
would
lean
towards
better
accommodation
for
hotel
guests
and
visitors
to
go,
have
drinks
there
or
go
to
listen
to
music
and
for
residents
to
do
the
same
thing,
but
that
there's
nothing
that
you
can
do
at
this
particular
location
that
will
handle
320
people
that
will
allow
them
to
exit
respectively
and
quietly
without
the
disruption.
F
That's
going
to
happen
from
a
crowd
that
size
and
from
the
music
and
the
venue
that
draws
that
many
people.
So
it
disappoints
me
to
say
that
I
can't
support
the
project
because
I
don't
think
we
can
condition
it
to
be
the
appropriate
size
and
appropriate
component
of
that
name.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Irvin.
Q
Yes,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
vice
chair
roberts
for
accepting
that
public
comment
that
went
through.
For
me,
this
has
been
kind
of
tough
for
me
as
well.
I
I
like
to
try
to
say
that
I'm
consistent
and
try
to
use
and
don't
make
judgment
for
any
situation
and
we've
approved
a
couple
of
of
these
same
similar
type
of
clubs
here
and
within
maybe
I'd
say,
100
to
200
yards
away.
Q
But
for
me
it's
it's
just
tough,
looking
at
the
picture
and
actually
going
to
the
site
and
seeing
how
close
it
is
to
residents
it's
just
you
know
at
this
time
I
won't
be
able
to
be
supportive
of
it,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
it's
not
because
of
the
the
traffic
or
or
the
concerns
with
anyone.
That's
in
your
club
with
the
other
locations.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Hershbein.
M
Well,
that's
exactly
how
I
feel,
commissioner,
when
I
I
before
I
started,
studying
this
and
and
understanding
what
the
immediate
uses
immediately
adjacent
uses
were.
I
was
like
well
yeah.
We
approved
the
bevmo
building,
one
of
robinson
one.
I
know
it
hasn't
opened,
yet
I
don't
know
if
it's
ever
going
to
open.
It
looks
like
it's
been
taking
a
long
time,
but
it
was
approved
by
us
with
certain
mitigating
conditions,
and
I
thought
it
was
probably
the
right
decision.
M
I
mean
we
may
never
know
because
it
might
not
open,
but
at
least
it
would
be
a
good
test
if
it
does,
but
looking
at
that
orleans
building
kind
of
knocked
my
socks
off,
I
just
thought
wow
that
I
don't
know
you
could
have
a
nightclub
in
that
building
not
adjacent
to,
but
a
joining
a
budding,
a
an
apartment.
Building
that
just
seemed
like
it
would
cause
a
lot
of
grief
to
the
people
that
live
there
and
therefore
number
two.
The
finding
is
not
detrimental
to
existing
uses.
M
I
couldn't
make
that
finding,
because
I
I
would
carry
on
you,
know,
sort
of
uncategorically
state
that
that
would
be
detrimental
to
that
existing
use.
So,
therefore,
not
for
me.
A
Okay,
guest
commission,
emergency.
P
After
hearing
everyone
and
also
the
applicant,
I
was
prepared
to
suggest
the
three-month
you
know
time
frame
for
them
to
prove
themselves,
but
then,
on
the
other
hand,
I
thought
they're
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
to
just
put
this
hole
together
and
then
to
have
a
three-month
test
would
be
nerve-wracking
at
the
very
least
and
and
worse
yet
because
it
is
adjacent
to
apartments.
P
I
just
don't
think
there's
any
situation,
even
if
you
had
20
guards.
If
you
have
a
drunk
person
that
doesn't
want
to
get
in
their
car
they're
going
to
be
yelling.
They're
going
to
yell
and
and
security
guards
are
going
to
try
to
stop
them
from
yelling,
but
they're
going
to
yell
and
just
yelling
alone
will
disturb
the
people
in
the
orleans
building.
So
I
I
think
it
would
be
a
setup
for
failure
to
offer
a
three
month.
P
P
I
don't
know
what
about
the
old
zelda's
space,
but
it's
you
know
it's
just
that
orleans
building,
so
I
have
to
vote
now
and
it's
not
because
I
don't
think
we're
doing
a
great
job,
I
think,
would
be
a
terrific
business,
but
I
just
don't
think
it's
going
to
work
so
finding
number
two.
I
can't
make
either.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
mercy
chair
wermick.
I
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
speak
again
and
I
will
give
you
an
opportunity.
I
I
want
to
make
a
few
comments
myself.
I
I
concur
with
my
colleagues.
I've
said
this
before
I'll
say
it
again.
It's
a
great
use
in
the
wrong
location.
A
A
I
just
don't
see
a
way
to
mitigate
the
problems
that
are
going
to
occur
outside
this
club.
I
think
you
can
solve
it
inside,
but
just
the
mere
fact
that
people
from
midnight
to
2
a.m
will
be
walking
out
into
that
parking
lot.
Starting
cars
is
going
to
have
a
dramatic
impact
on
not
only
the
building
next
door,
but
the
close
proximity
of
the
hotels
behind
it.
I
I
wish
there
were
a
way
to
mitigate
it.
I
wish
we
could
think
of
a
way.
So
far
I
haven't
heard
it.
A
L
A
Sorry
so
chairwoman,
I
I
want
to
just
make
sure
we
do
this
properly.
A
L
Yes,
chair
wemmick
is
still
participating
as
a
full
member
of
this
commission
this
evening,
just
under
sort
of
special
circumstances,
but
she
is
still
participating.
She
may
make
motion
second
them
and
vote
excellent.
C
Just
in
case
this,
the
applicant
might
have
some
problems
for
the
public,
I'm
in
a
hote,
I'm
in
a
hospital
room
fully
competent,
but
in
case
they
have
problems
with
it.
Someone
else
can
make
the
motion.
A
B
So
just
for
clarification
from
staff.
As
we
prepare
the
final
resolution,
the
commission
is
denying
the
conditional
use
permit,
based
on
an
ability
to
make
finding
number
two
in
response
to
that.
Finding
the
commission's
comments
were
relative
to
the
propose
you
specifically
in
the
zone
not
being
desirable
due
to
proximity
to
an
existing
use,
which
is
residential.
That
directly
affects
the
property.
M
M
It's
the
specific
wording
I
cannot
make
a
finding
for
is
quote
and
is
not
detrimental
to
existing
uses,
unquote
because
it
in
my
opinion,
and
why
I'm
making
motion
is
because
I
think
it
would
be
detrimental.
So
that's
specifically
what
I'm
basing
my
motion
on.
M
L
L
A
A
Yes,
we
absolutely
can,
I
just
want
to
say
the
applicant,
I'm
very
sorry,
I
think
we'd
all
love
to
see
you
come
and
and
do
your
club
you
you're
just
going
to
have
to
find
a
better
place
for
it
where
you
won't
have
these
impacts,
we're
we're
going
to
take
a
five
minute
break.
So
if
everyone
can
come
back
just
a
few
minutes
before
8,
that
would
be
great.
A
We
are
moving
to
the
second
item
of
our
public
hearing
is
item
2b,
which
is
the
parker
palm
springs,
2
llc
for
an
extension
of
time
for
plan
development,
district
amendment
and
major
architectural
review
applications
case
5.927
pdd,
58,
amnd
and
3.2
451
to
amend
plan
development,
district
58
for
a
32
unit,
hotel
addition
to
the
undeveloped
3.7,
acre
portion
of
the
parker
palm
staff.
Could
we
have
a
quick
report
on
that.
T
Thank
you
good
evening
as
introduced.
This
is
a
time
extension
request
for
parker
palm
springs.
The
parker
palm
springs
is
a
existing
hotel.
That's
located
at
the
corner
of
east
palm
canyon,
drive
and
south
cherokee
way.
T
The
hotel
currently
has
147
rooms
on
a
13.45
acre
a
lot
and
back
in
the
year,
2020
parker
palm
springs
submitted
a
proposal
to
the
city
to
construct
the
hotel
addition
in
this
rear
portion
of
the
property,
which
is
3.7
acres
in
size.
This
area
is
a
open
turf
area
surrounded
by
ficus
edges
and
the
area
includes
a
paved
service
area.
T
The
park
of
palm
springs
propose
a
32
unit,
hotel
audition,
and
I
intended
to
accommodate
outdoor
activities,
and
this
new
parker
hall
is
the
addition
that
business
was
proposing
it's
going
to
be
under
separate
operation,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
open
to
the
public,
only
accessible
to
parker
hall
guests,
only
and
they're,
just
a
very
exclusive
the
hotel
that
they
are
proposing
to
add
to
the
existing
property.
T
As
you
see
here,
the
proposal
included
a
32
unit,
hotel
edition,
which
consisted
of
10
detached
buildings
in
various
architectural
styles
and
sizes,
and
this
is
just
the
renderings
of
crew
by
the
city
just
to
show
the
entire
view
of
the
property
here,
taking
from
a
different
angles,
looking
at
the
property
to
the
north
from
the
existing
hotel
and
the
proposed
courtyard
and
landscape
design.
T
In
addition
to
this
proposal,
the
the
project
actually
involved
a
fund
development
district
amendment,
as
you
see
here
in
the
picture,
the
parker
property
consists
of
two
separate
parcels
and
a
pre
before
the
amendment.
This
property
consisted
of
pdb,
58
and
the
r3
zone,
and
the
plant
development
district
amendment
changed
the
entire
excuse
me
the
r3
portion
to
pdd,
so
that
the
entire
property
become
plan
development,
district
58
for
consistency.
T
As
you
see
in
the
area
image
here,
there
are
a
few
buildings
that
are
actually
located
right
on
the
the
boundary
of
our
street
zone
and
the
ped
58.
So
this
amendment
corrected
and
made
things
a
little
bit
easier.
The
part
of
palm
springs.
This
project
has
a
very
extensive
history.
T
I
went
to
planning
commission
review
twice
and
it
was
ultimately
recommended
for
approval
to
the
city
council
on
march
19th
and
because
it
involved
the
pdb
amendment,
the
audience
was
first
introduced
in
march
and
the
ordinance
was
adopted
in
april
and
due
to
a
condition
of
approval
that
was
imposed
by
the
aic
in
january.
T
The
business
is
not
asking
that
pdv
be
revoked
or
be
considered
for.
Revocation
this
project
was
a
little
bit
unique.
Planned
development
district
usually
goes
through
a
preliminary
development
plan
review
and
then
to
the
final
development
plan.
However,
the
sparkler
project,
its
preliminary
and
final
development
plans,
were
reviewed
and
approved
concurrently
and
on
march
19th.
20
2020.
T
zonico
provides
the
conditions
that
are
required
for
granting
a
time
extension
at
the
first
of
the
it
has
to
be
consistent
with
the
general
plan
and
appropriateness
and
validity
of
the
original
findings
has
to
be
met.
T
Environmental
changes
and
surroundings
and
conformance
to
the
property
maintenance
standards
and
the
applicant
has
to
demonstrate
and
convince
clearly
that
the
project
will
be
substantially
underway
within
the
extended
period,
and
the
applicant
also
has
to
demonstrate
reasonable.
Substantial,
timely
efforts
have
been,
and
it
has
to
be
a
very
unusual
circumstances
that
are
not
within
the
africans.
Control
based
on
the
justification
letter
that's
submitted
by
the
applicant
and
just
analyzing
the
nature
of
the
approval
project.
T
That
african
team
has
made
a
reasonable,
substantial
and
timely
efforts
to
move
the
project
forward
within
the
ability
and
then
also
this
project
was
approved
right
after
the
covet.
19
was
in
the
global
pandemic,
and
hospitality
industry
was
hit
quite
hard
and
pandemic
induced
limitations
and
obligation
resulted
in
additional
hardship
during
this
time
and
for
this
reason
and
findings,
staff
recommends
that
the
planning
commission
approve
a
two-year
time.
T
A
Thank
you
very
much
noriko.
Are
there
any
questions
of
staff
on
this
application.
A
M
Hi
this
is
robert
patterson.
I
am
the
applicant's
attorney,
I'm
going
to
start
my
video
here
and,
as
you
probably
all
are
aware,
this
is
a
project
that
went
through
extensive
planning
with
the
architectural
review
and
with
the
planning
commission.
M
It
actually
was
subject
to
two
public
hearings.
There
were
comments
from
the
neighbors.
M
The
applicant
expended
a
great
deal
of
time
and
money
to
address
the
issues
that
were
raised
by
the
neighboring
property
owners
kind
of
changed
the
entryway
of
the
project,
so
that
any
concerns
about
light
and
glare
would
be
addressed,
and
the
city
council
and
the
planning
commission
both
approved
the
project.
M
The
client
has
not
changed
the
project
one
iota.
This
is
the
same
project
that
was
previously
tailored
for
the
community
and
approved,
and
now
they
simply
need
an
extension
of
time
based
on
the
pandemic
and,
as
you
can
see
from
the
renderings,
you
know
it's
going
to
be
a
world-class
resort
destination
which
is
going
to
make
the
city
of
palm
springs
an
even
more
desirable
tourist
destination.
M
It's
going
to
provide
a
lot
of
jobs
and
it's
just
a
really
incredible
project.
I
myself
look
at
the
landscaping
and
I'm
really
impressed
by
that.
That's
just
a
personal
note,
and
so
you
know
we
appreciate
your
taking
the
time
this
evening
and
we
hope
for
your
approval
of
the
extension
and
we
thank
ms
kikuchi
for
her
kindness
and
her
hard
work
on
teeing
this
up
for
the
planning
commission.
A
A
Thank
you,
sir.
I
will
now
close
the
public
part
of
this
and
bring
it
back
up
to
the
planning
commission,
I'm
looking
for
comments
and
or
an
action.
Yes,
commissioner,
hirschbein
I'll
move
to
approve.
A
Second
awesome:
we
have
a
first
and
a
second
to
move
approval
for
a
two-year
extension
of
an
existing
approval.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
Oh,
let
me
read
it
out.
Excuse
me,
this
is
the
coastal
business
group
representing
a
t
wireless
for
a
conditional
use
permit
to
construct
one
wireless
communication
communication
facility
on
the
city
parking
garage
to
an
extension
of
an
elevator
tower
at
a
maximum
height
of
48
feet
located
at
235,
south
indian
canyon
drive
zone
cu.
This
is
case
number
five
point,
one
one,
five
zero
zero
conditional
use
permit.
N
Yes,
chair,
let
me
get
our
face
chair.
Let
me
get
this
to
come
up
and
just
just
when
you
think
you're
prepared.
N
A
A
We
don't
have,
we
don't
have
anything
from
you
up.
N
Let
me
there
we
go
so
just
to
orient.
This
will
be
a
brief
presentation.
The
applicant
is
requesting
to
add
a
cell
tower
on
top
of
the
top
deck
of
the
parking
garage,
the
city
owned
parking
garage.
Currently,
there
are
two
other
cell
towers
that
are
there
they're
very
well
hidden
they're
verizon,
which
is
the
yellow
arrow
of
stars,
and
the
location
for
the
18t
is
where
the
red
star
is.
N
So
this
is
the
very
top
deck
at
the
very
end,
when
you
drive
up
the
to
the
top
deck
there's
a
staircase.
That
is
right
here,
where
my
cursor
is
and
there's
a
turnaround
location,
that's
hatched
that
they
are
proposing
to
construct
a
celtar
which
we'll
get
to
in
just
a
minute.
So
these
are
the
existing
verizon,
yes,
verizon
cell
towers,
they're
on
top
of
the
elevator
shafts.
This
one
that
is
in
the
middle
of
the
garage
is
at
51
feet
from
the
base
grade
51
feet
to
the
top.
N
N
Moving
on
just
to
give
you
a
close-up
view,
the
area
where
this
new
enclosure
will
go
is
where
the
hatch
mark
is
there's
a
light
pole.
That's
there
now
to
orient
everyone
again
there.
They
have
in
your
packet.
There
are
photo
simulations
as
to
what
this
would
look
like
when
it's
constructed
from
multiple
views.
N
You'll
notice,
that
from
indian
canyon
drive
it's
not
visible
because
of
the
height
of
the
garage,
it's
visible
from
the
the
fisherman's
and
lulu's
parking
garage
as
you
look
south
over
top
of
the
fisherman's
restaurant,
just
some
photographs
of
existing
conditions.
The
hatched
areas,
as
I
mentioned,
is
where
this
enclosure
will
go.
There's
some
fire
apparatus
that
will
have
to
be
relocated,
and
this
light
pole
is
about
as
tall
as
the
tower
element
will
be.
N
N
Once
again,
this
is
looking
towards
north
indian,
where
the
new
enclosure
would
be
in
your
packet.
There
are
also
propagation
maps
that
show
the
various
18t
towers
around
the
city.
The
red
dot
is
where
the
parking
garage
is
and
where
they're
proposing
to
build.
This
you'll
see
that
the
green
is
missing,
and
that
is
because
the
the
signal
is
not
there.
They're
strong
and
when
they
build
the
tower.
This
is
what
the
coverage
map
shows.
N
So
it
goes
from
that
to
this
so
the
in
our
staff
report.
We
feel
that
we
can
make
the
cup
findings
all
of
them
and
we
do
recommend
approval.
Sure
and
the
applicant
is
here.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
molacker.
I'm
going
to
start
questions
from
the
commission
myself
and
mr
mullacher
and
mr
newell.
I'm
sorry.
I
didn't
call
you
with
this
earlier
and
mr
newell
when
we
were
speaking
it
slipped
my
mind,
but
I've
had
this
question
all
day
is:
is
there
a
reason
or
that
we
haven't
or
have
we
looked
at
co-location
for
these,
for
these
cell
towers.
N
Right
co-location
is
always
an
option
when
it
is
a
tower,
a
monopole
and
not
a
monopoly.
When
we
have
towers
that
look
like
faux
palm
trees,
it's
it's
unlikely
that
they
could
co-locate,
because
you
can't
make
it.
You
can't
set
another
array
underneath
it
because
it
won't
look.
You
can't
disguise
it.
You
can't
have
two.
You
know
palm
fronds
on
top
of
each
other
in
the
downtown
area.
We
do
look
at
buildings
that
are
taller,
so
there
are
antennas
on
top
of
the
hyatt
building.
N
N
They
have
looked
at
city
parks.
But
yes,
co-location
is
something
that
the
city
does
encourage.
Quite
often.
A
One
quick
follow-up
question:
is
there
any
reason
that
we
can't
move
this?
What
a
t
is
proposing
closer
to
the
verizon
piece,
that's
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
to
make
it
less
noticeable.
N
Right,
well,
you
know,
as
as,
if
you've
used
the
parking
garage,
it
is
heavily
parked.
There
are
times
many
many
hours
of
the
day
that
there
are
no
spots
available
at
all
in
the
garage,
because
it's
it's
well
used
and
the
city
does
not
like
to
give
up
parking
spaces
in
the
garage.
So
that's,
why
locating
it
at
a
location
where
there's
no
spots?
Currently,
it
does
not
take
away
parking
for
public
use.
B
Would
just
add
by
share
that,
typically,
if
they
were
to
co-locate
in
the
existing
facilities,
they
need
to
increase
the
the
massing
of
the
tower.
So
we
worked
with
this
applicant.
Initially,
they
had
a
different
proposal
to
site
the
facility
on
top
of
the
corner
of
the
building
where
indian
and
the
fish
market
is
located,
and
it
just
was
out
of
scale,
and
so
we
were
able.
We
asked
them
if
they
could
find
another
location
and
without
being
out
of
scale
for
the
existing
towers
that
were
already
there
or
the
elevator
shafts
that
are
there.
A
P
F
Thank
you,
one
of
the
I
happen
to
think
this
is
a
very
handsome
parking
garage,
and
I
don't
say
that
lightly,
because
that
never
happens.
One
of
the
things
that
I
particularly
like
about
it
is
the
use
of
the
the
contrast
of
the
different
materials,
the
split
face
and
the
smooth
concrete
and
it
just
it.
F
It
makes
it
very
attractive
what
catches
my
eye
about
this
is
the
fact
that
the
new
one
it
appears
would
be
split
face
like
the
other
one
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
was
thought
given
to
and
I'm
not
an
architect.
So
in
part,
I'm
throwing
this
out
to
staff
and
to
the
my
colleagues
who
are
architects
was
consideration
given
to
rather
than
doing
another
split
face,
and
because
this
is
located
on
top
of
part
of
the
building.
That
does
have
the
smooth
concrete
finish
using
a
smooth,
concrete
finish.
Instead,.
N
In
staff
conversations
with
the
applicant,
we
wanted
it
to
blend
in
or
be
similar
to
the
other
other
elements
that
are
in
the
build
on
the
building.
So
you
know
the
it
can't
be
a
concrete
structure,
because
the
the
the
telecommunication
signals
won't
penetrate
through
them.
I
don't
and
the
applicant
can
describe
that,
but
it
could
look
like
something
else.
It
doesn't
have
to
look
like
a
split
phase,
because.
F
Yeah
because
it
can
look
like
smooth
concrete
without
being
full
of
concrete
right,
okay,
but
you
can't
do
concrete
itself,
but
I
don't
know
I'll
leave
it
open
to
the
architects
in
the
ground
too.
A
So
we
can
we
can.
We
can
change
that
if
we
want
other
questions
from
planning
commission
right
hand
it
over
to
the
applicant
okay.
If
the
applicant
would
like
to
give
us
a
brief
presentation.
G
And
staff
for
presenting
this
site
for
us.
G
Answer
any
specific
questions
I
think
staff
covered
it
really
well,
we.
G
And
were
denied
and
we
listened
to
what
staff
had
to
say
and
incorporated
that
into
what
we're
doing
or
proposing
now.
So,
with
that
I'd
like
to
just
ask,
if
you
have
any
specific
questions,
I
can
answer.
A
A
Okay,
apparently
the
public
doesn't
think
this
is
our
most
exciting
application
tonight.
So
I'm
going
to
bring
it
back
up
to
the
planning
commission,
knowing
that
the
applicant
is
here
to
answer
our
questions
or
hear
our
comments,
I
have
a
few
comments
but
I'll.
Let
my
colleagues
go
first,
yes,
chair
wermick,
your
hand
is
up
you're,
muted,.
A
Okay,
that
was
easy.
Anybody
else.
Oh,
I
see,
commissioner
hirsch,
finding
your
hand
was
sort
of
lost
in
the
light
landscape
behind
you.
M
It's
like
that
movie,
you
remember
the
beast
with
five
fingers
anyway.
This
is
the
best
cell
tower
proposal,
I've
seen
in
the
years
that
I've
been
on
planning
or
aac
and
I'm
very
happy
to
be
able
to
approve
it,
and
I
would
move
that
pending
anybody
else's
comments.
N
Right
so
the
the
the
project
was
submitted
before
I
don't
know
2019
it
went
to
architectural
review
because
the
process
was
different
at
the
time
we
went
to
aec
first
and
then
came
to
planning
commission.
N
It
was
two
large
structures
on
top
of
the
corner,
elevator
shaft
by
fisherman's,
that
was
over
55
feet
tall
from
the
base
of
the
grave.
It
was
just
out
of
scale
and
we
were
happy
to
see
when
18t
came
back
with
a
more
appropriate
design.
Thank
you.
A
N
A
A
I
applaud
more
cell
towers.
We
need
them,
but
I
find
this
one
to
be
really
loud
visually
and
really
tall,
and
if
I'm,
if
I'm
the
only
one
who
feels
that
way,
I
guess
that'll
just
be
my
opinion.
A
I
can't
help
wondering
if
we
can't
drop
it
down
somehow
and
maybe
adjust
the
parking
did
staff.
Look
at
that.
N
Right
so
most
cell
towers
and
approvals
from
planning
commission
range
from
around
44
feet
to
48.
So
this
is
in
the
range
of
what
heights
would
be
for
a
cell
tower.
N
M
Chair
roberts,
I
had
a
comment.
I
get
what
you're
saying
there
is
a
bulkiness
to
it,
so
it
it
doesn't
really
look
like
a
tower.
It's
kind
of
squat
actually
and
the
height
is
not
what's
really
bothering
me
at
all,
but
maybe
the
girth
of
it.
So
if
it
was
narrower,
I
don't
know
if
they
can
make
it
there
or,
but
if
it
was
narrower,
would
that
help
you.
A
A
Oh
okay,
your
hand
was
up
okay,
yeah,
I
and,
and
mr
malacca,
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
height.
I
just
wondered
if
there
was
a
way
to
drop
it
down
to
the
lower
structure
and
by
adjusting
parking
just
so
it
wasn't
such
a
mass
on
top
of
the
highest
point
and
it's
on
top
of
a
part
of
the
building,
that's
very
white
and
light,
so
it
stands
out
much
more
than
the
other
towers,
because
they're
actually
matching
what's
below
them.
I
just
don't
think
painting
this
white
is
gonna
help
it
again.
A
N
Right,
if
you
look
at
on
on
the
sheet
a
o2
it,
it's
sort
of
like
the
floor
plan
of
the
design
and
it's
sort
of
designed
in
two
levels,
so
the
first
level
which
would
be
on
the
base
of
the
parking
garage,
contains
all
the
equipment.
So
it
says
equipment,
layout
plan
and
base
of
faux
shaft
and
then
above
it
is
the
antenna
layout,
so
you're
stacking
two
elements
on
top
of
each
other.
So
maybe
the
applicant
can
describe
that.
Is
there
a
way
to
move
that?
N
Because
there
is
equipment,
that's
located
in
the
basement
of
the
garage
that
includes
a
generator
and
backup
battery
system?
So
maybe
they
could
address
that.
A
It's
more
the
location
than
the
height
location,
okay,
yeah.
Would
the
applicant
like
to
respond
to
this
at
all.
G
Yeah
I
I
would
say
that
we,
you
know,
we
considered
location
and
we
we
really
do
need
to
be
where
we're
proposing
to
get
the
coverage
that
we
need.
That's
what
it
essentially
comes
down
to.
G
We
we
had
proposed
doing
something
like
that.
You
know
when
we
talked
with
staff,
and
I
think
it
was
determined
that
this
would
be
the
better
spot.
N
It
when,
when
we
looked
at
the
last
proposal,
which
included
the
towers
on
top
of
the
elevator
shafts,
there
was
one
in
this
location
and
one
on
the
north
end
of
of
the
of
the
corner
of
the
indian
garage
that
corner
so
to
answer
question
no:
we've
not
looked
at
moving
this
specific
tower
next
to
verizon
and
as
to
what
the
height
would
be.
N
G
Let
me
also
add
to
sorry
to
interject
there,
but
we
can't.
We
also
can't
be
right
in
front
of
verizon's
antennas
that
would
that
would
cause
interference.
A
I
understand
I'd
like
to
ask
one
thing:
if
my
colleagues
will
tolerate
it,
I'd
like
to
send
this
to
staff
to
see
if
an
adjustment
can
be
made
to
drop
it
down
onto
the
lower
part
of
the
structure
and
see
if
there's
a
way
to
adjust
parking
to
make
it
work
just
so,
we
don't
have
in
the
immortal
words
of
commissioner
hirschbein,
this
big
girthy
thing
sitting
on
top
of
the
tallest
piece
of
the
building.
A
M
M
I
that's
fine,
I
I
just
don't
my
motion.
I
wouldn't
agree
that
it
should
be
so
to
speak
a
deal
breaker
I
mean
if,
if
staff
can
work
it
out,
that's
fine,
I'm
happy
to
have
them,
go
back
one
more
time
to
staff,
but
but
regardless
of
that
outcome
it
does
go.
Go
on
to
council.
B
Vice
chair
and
commissioners,
this
is
a
final
action
when
we
updated
our
ordinances
last
year.
The
approval
of
monopoles
and
wireless
facilities
now
rests
with
the
planning
commission.
Unless
it's
appealed
to
city
council.
M
Okay,
that's
my
mistake.
I
I
misheard
that
sorry.
So
then
it
would
just
be
a
proving
subject
to
a
final
meeting
with
staff
to
determine
what
we
just
said.
A
A
F
A
That
would
be
determined
by
the
applicant
and
staff,
I'm
just
thinking.
If
it's
on
the
lower
part
of
the
building,
it
won't
have
the
impact
that
it
has
right
now.
I.
F
Just
think
that
it
could
have
even
a
greater
impact
if
we're
seeing
if
it's
now
sticking
up
that
much
above
the
level
of
the
roof
that
it's
on,
if
that
makes
sense,
in
other
words,
if
we're
lowering
it,
I
don't
know
eight
feet
or
something
works,
essentially
extending
it
to
be
eight
feet
taller,
but
putting
on
our
lower
portion
of
the
roof.
Does
that
mean.
L
Oh,
I'm
so
sorry
go
ahead.
Mrs
milan,
I'm
sorry,
commissioner,
go
ahead.
That's
still
a
question,
mr
vice
chair.
If
I
could
make
a
suggestion,
it
sounds
like
we
have
some
significant
questions
here
about
what
is
feasible
and
what
may
not
be
feasible
for
the
applicant
here
and
for
the
parking
facility.
L
I
might
suggest
that
this
item
be
continued
to
give
staff
the
opportunity
to
work
with
the
developer,
and
then
we
could
report
it
back
to
the
planning
commission
what
those
determinations
were
and
then
the
commission
can
make
final
action
at
that
point.
So.
A
L
A
A
Okay,
so
we
had
a
motion
from
commissioner
hershbein.
Are
you
fine
with
what
staff
is
suggesting.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
make
that
motion
that
it
be
continued
to
our
next
meeting
contingent
upon
a
meeting
with
staff
to
see
if
we
can
have,
we
can
mitigate
the
scale
and
the
height
and
the
visual
impacts
and
bring
it
back
on
our
and
bring
it
back
to
our
next
meeting.
L
If
I
could
just
confirm
mr
vice
chair,
mr
newell
is
bringing
it
back
the
next
meeting
going
to
leave
you
enough
time
to
meet
with
the
applicant.
B
G
Yeah
I
this
is
brad
again
with
coastal
business
group.
I
I'd
like
to
add.
L
Some
things
here
by
moving
down
to
the.
G
L
And
I
have.
S
Hi
good
evening,
I
just
wanted
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
mr
roberts
had
in
concern
to
maybe
putting
it
more
center
of
the
parking
garage
or
on
the
lower
levels.
S
Yeah,
of
course,
so
a
couple
of
those
comments.
Our
previous
proposal
was
on
the
lower
level
on
top
of
the
elevator
shaft,
and
it
was
shot
down
due
to
the
fact
that
they
thought
it
looked
too
large.
In
comparison,
the
height
is
similar
to
what
we
were
proposing
on
the
second
level.
However,
it
just
was
a
larger,
since
it
was
on
the
lower
level
we
had
it.
S
The
height
itself
of
the
structure
was
going
to
be
taller,
but
as
far
as
like
it
was
going
to
be
the
same
level
as
what
verizon
is
proposing
or
verizon
has
existing.
However
they're
on
the
second
level.
So
that's
why
the
overall
height
of
their
structure
is
shorter
in
terms
of
being
in
the
middle
of
the
structure.
S
Again,
verizon
is
taller
they're
at
51
feet
and
that's
because
they're
in
the
center
of
the
structure,
so
they
needed
more
height
in
order
to
obtain
clearance
from
edge
to
edge
and
the
parapet
you
when
you're,
not
in
a
corner,
you
have
to
be
higher
up,
so
you
you
know,
take
in
consideration
shadowing
of
the
equipment
and
maybe
some
blockage
that
you
may
have
as
far
as
designing
it,
to
maybe
look
like
a
sleek
concrete
finish,
of
course,
design
the
design
aspects
of
the
finish,
whether
it's
the
stucco
sleek
concrete
that
could
all
be
changed
just
by
the
frp
that
we
put
around
the
antennas.
A
A
But
thank
you
for
your
comments.
What
do
you
think
should
we
just
move
this
forward.
A
I
guess
I
need
to
ask
myself
that
question
yeah:
why
don't
we
move
it
forward?
Why
don't
we
just
move
it
forward.
A
P
A
Okay,
here
we
go,
so
is
there
a
second
to
my
motion?
Okay,
thank
you.
So,
commissioner
hershbein
second,
my
motion,
it's
being
approved
as
presented
all
those
in
favor
all
right,
aye
any
opposed
motion
carries.
Thank
you
all
for
putting
up
with
me
on
that.
One.
F
Sure,
before
we
continue,
I
have
to
exit
the
meeting
now
and
I'm
apologizing
for
the
full
extent
of
it.
A
A
Okay,
we're
moving
into
unfinished
business.
We
have
none
we're
moving
into
new
business
item.
4A
jackson,
main
architecture
on
behalf
of
nwb
palm
springs,
llc
for
a
major
development
print
application,
permit
application
to
construct
a
61,
704
square
foot
self
storage
facility
with
a
912
square
foot
leasing
office
on
a
3.55
acre
undeveloped,
parcel
located
at
890
north
gene
audrey
trail
zone
m1p.
T
T
Thank
you
good
evening
again.
This
is
a
proposed,
a
self
storage
facility,
more
specifically
west
coast
storage
at
890,
north
gene
entry
trail.
T
The
project
site
is
a
3.55
acre
lot.
That's
located
on
gene
archery
and
the
the
general
plan
that
this
designation
on
project
site
is
industrial
and
the
zone.
Designation
is
plant
research
and
development
park,
the
properties
adjacent
to
the
desert
sun
building
to
the
south,
and
it
is
adjacent
to
the
essena
residential
community
to
the
north
and
east.
T
This
is
just
a
view
of
the
property
taking
at
the
intersecting
point
of
tamarisk
and
a
gene
archery,
the
street
that
you
see
here,
the
tamarisk
road
or
the
appears
to
be
a
regular
street.
This
is
actually
a
private,
a
driveway
that
belongs
to
the
desert.
Sun
property
and
the
project
site
is
undeveloped
relatively
flat,
and
there
are
existing
eight
foot
high
walls
on
north
and
east
side
of
the
property
to
show
what
the
property
looks
like
right
now.
T
So
the
west
coast
storage
facility
is
a
sixty
one
thousand
seven
hundred
and
four
square
feet
in
size.
The
proposed
building
height
is
a
generous
single
story
with
a
maximum
building
height
of
20
feet,
which
is
measured
at
the
building
corners
and
the
facility
will
provide
indoor
and
outdoor
storage
area.
T
The
outdoor
stretch
area
is
going
to
be
utilized
for
rvs
and
the
boats
mainly
for
restore
such
equipment,
and,
as
I
briefly
mentioned,
the
property
is
a
purpose
developed.
Excuse
me,
property
is
adjacent
to
an
existing
eight
foot
high
wall
and
the
proposed
hours
of
operation
for
this
facility
is
at
six
a.m
to
ten
p.m.
Seven
days
a
week,
a
number
of
on-site
employees
will
be
too,
and
the
most
amount
of
customers
expected
at
any
given
time
is
10
people.
T
This
is
a
site
plan.
The
purpose
building
will
be
located
at
the
at
the
south
west
corner
of
the
lot,
and
the
access
to
the
site
will
be
provided
by
a
private
driveway
on
the
south
side,
and
the
driveway
will
wrap
around
the
corner
of
the
building
and
connects
to
the
gene
archery
on
the
north
side,
and
this
is
just
to
show
the
site.
T
So,
as
I
mentioned,
the
property
is
a
is
adjacent
to
the
desert
sun
building
and
that
there's
an
existing
private
driveway.
There's
an
exclusive
excuse.
Me
non-exclusive,
easement,
that's
recorded,
which
allows
the
project
site
to
provide
access
from
this
private
driveway
once
approved
and
completed.
This
self-storage
facility
will
include,
I
believe,
over
500
and
internal
units,
which
I'm
pretty
sure
that
we
can
can
provide
additional
information
and
in
terms
of
the
building
design,
there
will
be
the
canopy
structure
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
and
there
are
smaller.
T
The
purpose
construction
material
will
consist
of
a
stucco
and
a
metal
and
again
the
building
height
is
generally
lower.
Excuse
me
about
15
feet
to
17
feet.
I
believe
with
the
the
highest
point.
It's
20
feet,
which
is
measured
at
the
corner
of
the
building,
and
some
of
the
units
will
be
accessible
from
the
exterior
of
the
building.
T
The
sign
will
be
reviewed
by
the
arc
and
then
also
the
project
proposes
a
dessert,
neutral,
color
palette,
with
a
with
the
accent
color
of
royal
blue,
and
these
are
the
purple's
materials
here,
and
the
pro
project
proposes
an
installation
of
a
new
landscaping,
more
particularly
on
the
perimeter
of
the
project
site
along
the
north
gene
archery
trail
and
the
north
and
east
side
of
the
lot.
T
So
this
project
well
before
moving
forward
to
the
next
section
of
this
presentation.
This
project
does
not
require
any
neighborhood
outreach
meeting
or
anything.
However,
it
was
the
applicant's
desire
to
have
and
to
approach
the
community
and
to
obtain
a
community
input,
so
they
decided
to
hold
a
neighborhood
outreach
meeting
and
ever
since
the
decision
was
made,
the
applicant
the
office
of
neighborhood
involvement
and
the
planning
staff
worked
very
closely,
and
the
particular
applicants
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time,
organizing
and
planning
for
this
neighborhood
outreach
meeting.
T
T
However,
after
the
agenda
was
posted
and
the
staff
report
was
posted
for
public
viewing,
the
planning
division
started
receiving
some
comments,
stating
that
they
did
not
receive
notice
and
that's
the
time
when
we
realized
that
the
notification
actually
did
not
go
through
so
on
the
stuff.
Before
page
nine
and
ten,
it
states
that
that
additionally,
they
see
the
organization
was
notified
of
this
of
the
neighborhood
outreach
meeting
by
office
of
neighborhood
involvement.
T
I
just
for
the
record
staff
would
like
to
correct
that,
and
it
actually
did
not
happen
for
this
neighborhood
outreach
meeting.
The
planning
division
provided
the
mating
labels
to
the
african
one
of
the
recipients
was
a
cena
hoa.
T
Unfortunately,
the
labels
that
the
city
created
utilize-
the
data,
that's
provided
by
the
riverside
county
assistance
office
and
the
address
of
the
hoa
community
that
was
in
the
county
system,
was
not
the
most
current
one
and
for
the
reason,
actually,
the
letters
that
were
sent
to
the
eseena
hoa
were
returned
to
the
applicant.
T
This
stuff
wanted
to
kind
of
clarify
the
disclosure
information
here,
so
the
based
on
the
information
that's
provided
by
applicant,
the
self-storage
use,
is
consistent.
Stuff
finds
that
the
self
strategies
is
consistent
with
the
general
pronunciation
code.
T
The
low
impact
use
will
not
cause
detrimental
impact
on
adjacent
properties,
and
the
proposed
building
site
is
compatible
with
adjacent
desert,
sun
building
and
the
site
setting,
which
is
right
next
to
a
major
thoroughfare
and
a
private
driveway.
T
Those
streets
will
be
capable
of
accommodating
the
amount
of
traffic
expected
to
be
generated
by
the
use,
and
there
is
other
great
infrastructure
to
support
the
proposed
use
and
the
applicants
submit
a
traffic
impact
assessment
document
which
determined
that
the
implementation
of
the
project
will
have
less
than
significant
impact.
T
On
the
other
hand,
the
landscape
plan
that's
submitted
to
the
city
is
missing
a
concrete
planting
legend
and
existing
eight
foot
high
walls
may
not
be
sufficient
to
adequately
screen
on
rvs
and
the
boats
depending
on
the
type
of
vehicle
and
the
rod,
island
style.
T
Fencing
is
proposed
at
entry
and
exit
points
which
does
not
fully
screen
the
storage
area
and
then,
finally,
the
staff
finds
that
the
simplification
of
the
design
treatment
on
the
west
elevation
or
the
building
between
the
building
corners
are
maybe
desirable
for
the
reason
staff
is
recommending
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
the
proposed
project.
T
More
specifically,
a
major
development
permit
application,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
our
approval
recommended
by
staff,
which
include
the
following:
install
additional
planting
materials
in
the
preliminary
planting
bed
to
ensure
advocates
cleaning
of
the
rvs
from
the
residential
areas
and
then
also
the
planting
materials
and
installation
service
satisfactory
to
the
riverside
county
airport,
randy's,
commission
and
the
palm
springs
international
airport
requirements
and
replace
the
raw
island-style
fencing
near
the
entry
and
exit
points
and
the
six
high
walls
to
reduce
the
visibility
of
the
outdoor
stretch,
area
and
utilize.
T
The
the
triangular
non-parking
area
for
additional
landscaping,
and
also
the
one
of
the
recommendations,
the
simplification
of
the
design
treatment,
the
stuff
like
to
to
show
that
before
the
applicant
submitted
this
major
development
permit
application
to
the
city.
They
submitted
a
pre-summital
conference
application
and
the
rendering
on
the
right
side.
This
is
what
africa
initially
submitted
to
the
city
as
a
part
of
pre-submittal
conference
review.
T
At
the
time,
his
staff
provided
comments
with
applicant
that
maybe
the
the
void
or
the
wall
can
be
broken
up
and
african
submitted
a
revised
one,
which
is
on
the
left
side
here,
and
this
is
a
proposed
innovation
treatment.
T
A
Thank
you
rico.
Before
we
open
this
up
with
the
planning
commission,
I
I
need
a
clarification.
A
planning,
commissioner,
I
believe,
owns
land
within
a
cena.
Is
that
a
problem
jim?
A
When
I
look
at
the
the
diameter
the
500
feet,
it
looks
like
it
reaches
on
to
the
development.
Is
that
going
to
be
a
conflict?
A
Well
it
again,
if
you
look
at
the
vicinity
map,
it
looks
to
me
that
it
the
line
crosses
over
into
the
asina
development.
I
don't
have
a
page
number
for
the
vicinity
map
to
tell
you,
but
it's
it's
the
back
of
page
11
of
I.
L
Report
I'm
scrolling
to
it
now.
Okay,
thank
you.
Yes,
I
have
it.
I
would
advise
that
if
the
person
owned
property
within
500
feet
of
this
site,
that
they
should
recuse
themselves.
A
Their
their
home
is
within
the
development.
Their
home
is
not
within
the
500
feet,
but
they
are
within
500.
Feet
of
the
development
is
within
500
feet.
A
T
The
africans
I
held
a
neighborhood
outreach
meeting,
but
the
the
primary
communication
between
the
african
and
the
hoa
or
estina
the
staff
was
supposed
to
deliver
that
information
to
them,
and
that
did
not
happen.
T
A
Okay,
okay,
I'm
gonna
open
it.
I'm
gonna
open
this
up
to
the
planning
commission.
Let's
just
have
an
open
discussion
on
this.
A
Your
thoughts
questions,
commissioner,
murutsy.
T
Correct
it
was
not.
This
is
not
a
requirement.
It's
optional,
however,
the
opera
can't
take
a
very
proactive
approach
and
wanted
to
receive
some
kind
of
a
community
feedback,
and
so
that's
the
reason
why
they
decided
to
have
one,
but
it's
not
required.
P
T
Oh
yes,
I
know
it's
very
long.
It's
actually
m1p
zone,
but
it's
it
stands
for
planned
research
and
development.
Part
zone.
T
Development
park
is
often
been
seen
as
a
like
business
park,
but
in
this
momp
zone
a
variety
of
industrial
or
commercial
uses
are
permitted.
Self
storage
warehousing
and
such
use
is
one
of
those
uses
and.
L
Our
attorney
I
can
mr
rood
see
yes,
it
is
the
m1p
it
has
that
complicated
title
of
that
research
development
park.
It's
it's
a
variant
of
industrial
zoning
like
your
m1s,
it
just
has
you
know,
specialty
and
very
varying
uses
a
slightly
different
than
the
m1
zone,
but
it
is
an
industrial
zone.
This
is
classified
as
mini
warehousing
and
office
use,
which
is
permitted
in
the
m1
p's
out.
T
M
So
they
would
see
if
we
approve
it,
it
would
go
to
arc.
Is
that
how
that
works?
All
right?
Okay,
I
I
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
that
we
give
it's
not
emotion.
Yet
it's
a
it's
a
strategy
rather
than
us,
trying
to
solve
some
of
these
issues,
be
it
the
gate
or
the
landscaping
that
we
provide
arc
with
our
concerns
and
let
them
iron
out
the
details,
because
I
think
that's
what
the
process
is
designed
to
do.
M
A
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
other
questions
or
comments.
Do
you
want
to
mold
that
into
a
motion?
Commission.
M
Almost
that
we
approve
and
send
on
to
arc
having
them
look
at
the
specific
concerns
of
staff
and
and
and
the
some
of
the
residents
of
astana
that
we've
gotten
comments
from
about
shielding
views
subject
to
a
course.
Airport
restrictions.
A
I
will
second
that
I
will
say
that
I'd
like
staff
to
look
at
maybe
an
alternative
to
dg,
because
in
that
area,
that's
going
to
blow
around
a
lot
as
a
ground
cover
yeah.
I
think
all
staff
recommendations
are
good
and
should
be
strongly
considered.
A
I
agree
that
we
should
have
see
if
we
can
create
some
visual
distancing
from
the
neighborhood,
that
is
within
the
airport's
approval
and
in
general.
The
other
thing
I'm
concerned
about
is
the
structure
itself.
A
M
Well,
on
that,
I
think
you're
opening
up
you're,
potentially
opening
up
a
can
of
worms,
because
I
don't
want
the
arc
to
review
the
site
plan.
I
think
the
site
plan
should
be
a
given
to
them.
I'm
willing
to
approve
the
site
plan,
I'm
willing.
I
would
like
arc
to
iron
out
some
of
the
details.
Staffs
brought
up
as
well
as
some
of
these
elevations.
L
And
mr
vice
chair,
I
might
say
I
believe
commissioner
hirschbein
has
articulated
the
proper
separation
of
powers
under
the
new
code.
So
I
think
yeah
that
would
be
appropriate
for
you
to
retain
a
decision
on
the
site,
plan,
location
and
orientation
of
the
buildings
on
the
site
and
then
the
arc
would
handle
the
items
that
staff
has
identified.
As
concerns
that
you
have
identified
as
concerns
from
an
architectural
aesthetic
standpoint.
A
A
A
And
a
second
it
can
all
those
in
favor
of
moving
this
forward
to
the
aac
and
improving
it
with
conditions
all
in
favor.
Any
oppose
motion
carries
thank
you
moving
on
to.
A
I
think
it
is
our
last
item.
It
is.
We
have
a
discussion
of
the
general,
the
2007
general
plan,
limited
update.
We
are
to
review
revisions
to
the
general
plan,
vision,
statement
and
priorities
staff.
Do
you
want
to
give
us
some
sort
of
a
report
with
this,
or
do
you
want
us
just
to
go
into
discussion
on
it?.
B
Yes,
vice
chair
robertson,
commissioners,
I
do
have
a
presentation,
but
it's
going
to
be
just
a
brief
background
and
then
we
can
go
through
each
of
the
the
statement
and
then,
if
the
commission
agrees,
we
can
move
on
it'll,
be
kind
of
a
tell
me
if
you
agree
type
of
presentation.
So
with
that
I'll
start
the
presentation.
G
B
Okay,
so
just
as
a
way
of
background,
I
know
when
we
started
this
process
and
when
we
reviewed
the
vision
and
priority
statements
previously,
we
I
think
we
had
two
or
three
two
of
the
three
two
or
three
current
commissioners
who
were
not
part
of
the
commission
at
the
time.
So,
just
as
a
way
of
background,
the
general
plan
vision
the
statement
that
is
being
updated
as
a
part
of
the
limited
update
to
the
general
plan.
B
It
serves
as
the
foundation
for
all
of
our
goals
and
policies
within
the
document.
It
is
our
common
ground
from
which
we
can
make
our
decisions
and
defines
our
priorities
priority
areas
where
the
resources
should
be
focused.
So
again,
it's
really
the
overarching
statement
for
the
general
plan
and
it's
it's
kind
of
the
just
broad
and
general
statement
that
we
aspire
to
be
in
the
next
15
to
20
years
after
we've
established
our
vision,
we
need
to
establish
the
priorities
that
execute
the
vision,
and
these
are
more
value
or
theme
oriented.
B
B
We've
had
several
steering
committee
meetings
on
the
vision
and
priority
statements,
and
then
the
commission
made
recommendations
back
in
july
of
2020,
followed
by
a
recommended
final
recommendation
in
september
of
2020,
and
then
ultimately,
council
reviewed
those
recommendations
from
the
background
and
input
that
we
were
receiving
on
the
changes
to
the
vision
and
priority
statements
on
october
of
2020,
and
at
that
meeting
the
council
directed
that
we
should
do
additional
outreach
and
get
more
input
from
stakeholder
groups
and
members
of
the
public.
So
after
october
of
2020,
we
did
several
outreach
meetings.
B
As
you
see
here.
This
is
the
list
of
different
interest
groups
and
stakeholders
in
the
community,
as
well
as
neighborhood
meetings
that
we
held
are
that
were
held
as
a
part
of
our
housing
ailment
outreach
as
well
as
well
as
some
of
the
individual
stakeholders,
starting
from
november
of
20
to
as
recent
as
this
past
january.
B
B
Obviously,
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
input
throughout
this
process,
so
the
vision
that
you
see
here
on
the
left
is
the
one
that
was
considered
by
council
in
october
of
2020,
as
well
as
the
one
that
was
the
one
that
the
planning
commission
recommended
on
the
left
and
then
what
we've
done
is
revised
the
vision
statement
to
what
you
see
here
on
the
right
with
new
text
showing
written
red,
underline
and
text
that
was
removed
or
in
stricken
text
here.
B
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
newell.
Could
you
clear
the
screen?
P
Yeah
I
mean
I
read
through
the
document
in
terms
of
the
proposed
changes
and
so
forth,
and
I
thought
they
were
all
fine,
it's
sort
of
expanding
on
what
was
already
there
from
the
2020
meeting.
So
I
had
no
I'm
sure
you
had
no
comments.
D
Yeah,
I
would
say
I
mean
I'm
relatively
new
to
this.
Obviously,
I
applaud
all
the
work
that
went
into
this
and
I
have
read
through
it
as
well,
and
I
didn't
see
anything
that
I
wanted
to
comment
on
as
far
as
changes
or
additions
as
well.
So
thank
you.
A
Anybody
else
on
this
ideas.
Yes,
a
commissioner
irving.
Q
Yeah,
I
just
kind
of
want
to
echo
the
same
thing
that
the
other
commissioners
mentioned
as
well.
I
went
through
kind
of
read
it
pretty
well,
it
seems
like
it's
consistent
with
what
we've
already
discussed
and
I
don't
think
it
was
many
changes
and
I'm
in
support
of
it.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
newell.
I
know
one
of
the
commissioners
who
couldn't
stay
with
the
meeting
had
shared
some
thoughts
with
me
and
with
you
about
adding
a
category
specifically
for
climate
change.
Can
you
speak
to
that
recommendation.
B
Yes,
thanks
sure
we
had,
she
did
give
me
a
couple
of
comments
and
all
those
are
the
ones
that
I
had
taken
down
were
specific
to
priority
number
two
and
priority
number
three,
so
I
can
discuss
those
once
we
get
into
that
section
of
the
presentation.
A
Okay,
if
you'll
bring
those
up
at
that
point,
because
I
echo
those
concerns,
so
we
can
move
on
unless
I
think
the
commission's
good
with
where
we
are
to
this
point.
B
B
B
This
is
really
the
minor
change
that
we
made.
I
think
this
is,
you
know,
generally
still
important
for
the
city
that
you
know,
premier
desert
resort
community
again
this
priority
that
we
reviewed
back
in
october
of
20..
We
modified
this
substantially
to
really
show
that.
Not
only
do
we,
you
know
we're
a
desert
resort
community,
but
we're
not
you
know,
that's
that's
our
brand
right.
We've
heard
that
we've
always
had
you
know.
B
The
city
has
been
the
tourist
destination,
but
we've
also
heard
that
residents
want
to
steer
some
somewhat
away
from
only
being
a
tourist
destination,
but
it
also
has
cultural
diversity.
We
have
identity
here,
so
you
know
really
not
a
whole
lot.
We
that
we've
modified
in
this
this
priority.
So
again
I
we're
open
to
feedback
or
additional
comments
from
the
commission.
B
A
Let
me
ask
the
commission
when
you
made
your
earlier
comments,
was
it
just
on
the
one
section
or
was
it
on
the
overall
document
and
and
if
there's,
if
was
there,
was
it
overall
for
everybody
you're
all
saying?
Yes,
okay,
so
yeah,
mr
newell,
it
sounds
like
everybody
went
through
it.
I
certainly
did
and
again
my
only
real
concern
was
the
climate
change.
If
you
want
to
jump
to
that,
so
that
the
planning
commission
can
know
what
we're
talking
about.
B
Okay,
so
chair
wermick
had
a
comment
about
ferrari
number
two.
So
this
is
the
one
that
I'm
suggesting
we
look
at
and
consider
as
a
part
of
the
recommendation,
to
counsel
what
you
see
here
on
the
right.
B
B
So
it
says
this
can
kind
of
get
a
little
wordy
and
long,
but
we've
added
this
here
and
anticipated
to
mitigate
the
impacts
of
climate
change,
and
this
was
from
a
recommendation
from
the
vice
chair
of
the
sustainability
commission.
So
this
was
also
recommended
before
we
added
this
phrase
here,
which
was
recommended
by
the
human
rights
commission.
B
Okay,
so
that
was
the
recommendation
that
I
received
from
chair
vermont
earlier
today,
so
comment.
A
Yes,
commissioner
miller,
yes,.
D
In
other
words,
should
we
be
looking
at
visitors
as
well
or
property
owners,
or
I'm
just
thinking,
there's
businesses
and
other
things
besides
residents
that
should
be
promoting
sustainable
and
affordable
use?
I
just
wonder
if
residents
needed
to
be
expanded
there.
I
don't
know
what
others
are
thinking.
A
M
D
Or
if
you
wanted
to
provide
some
more,
you
know
some
more
interest
on
the
residents.
You
could
say
for
all
residents
and
other
stakeholders.
Perhaps
if
you
wanted.
M
A
Commissioner
irvine,
I
can't
see
you
so
if
you
don't
like
that
or
want
to
change
it
speak
up
now,
I
can
see
you.
No,
it's
fine,
you're
good
with
that.
A
B
B
This
is
priority
number
three
in
this
priority.
We
talk
about
diversifying
our
economy
and
we
also
talk
about
promoting
education
and
innovation,
so
because
these
can
be
separate
categories
technically
there
was
she-
and
I
talked
about
potentially
separating
this
priority
out
into
two
different
priorities.
B
That
we
would
add,
then,
is
this
priority
here:
improve
higher
education
opportunities
for
residents
in
the
city
and
surrounding
areas
promote
and
seek
seek
local
higher
education
options
within
the
city
to
improve
the
workforce
and
provide
living
wage
opportunities.
D
M
I
I
agree
with
commissioner
miller:
it
sounds
like
a
business,
not
a
not
an
educational
one.
B
A
Okay,
okay,
you
are
subtle
as
a
train
wreck
there,
commissioner
currency
okay,
so
I
david
I'm
hearing
that
we
want
to
pull
it
out
of
education
and
leave
it
on
the
other
end.
B
G
B
And
I
think
you
as
it
sounds
like
everyone
has
already
looked
at
all
the
other
priorities
generally,
those
are
fine
so
and
unless
there's
any
other
comments
that
you'd
like
me
to
forward
to
the
city
council,
I
have
what
we
need.
Thank
you.
We're
good
with.
A
It
I
think
you
you
worked
built
it
into
something,
that's
a
great
living
document
for
the
city
council.
I
think
it's
good.
Okay,
we
are
at
that
time
in
the
evening
gang.
Do
we
planning
commission
reports
requests
comments,
any
any
thoughts
from
you
all.
A
Planning
director's
report
david.
What
do
you
have
for
us.
B
Nothing
new
we've
got,
as
I
said,
on
council's
agenda
tomorrow.
The
vision
and
priority
statement
so
they'll
look
at
that.
The
council
will
also
look
at
the
zone
change
that
was
recommended
from
the
planning
commission
on
the
four
lot
subdivision
on
sunrise
and
ramon.
So
that's
on
their
agenda
tomorrow.
B
No,
you
you
approved
it.
Oh
that's
right,
you
approved
the
subdivision
and
then
you
forwarded
the
change
of
zone
to
the
the
city
council,
so
they'll
be
considering
that
tomorrow,
the
sorry
I
just
lost
my
turn.
It's
not
it's
like
that's.
B
That's
what
it
was
we
did
get
appeals
on
the
crestview
houses,
so
that
would
be
that
will
be
40
to
the
city
council.
You.
A
Did
get
an
appeal
request
on
that:
okay,
okay,
guess
what
we're
at
that
time?
We
are
move
adjournment
unless
there
are
any
burning
questions
or
thoughts.