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A
A
C
B
C
B
Yes,
chair
and
aac
members
of
the
agenda
was
posted
at
2
p.m.
On
thursday
october
15th,
on
the
west
side
of
city,
council
chambers
and
on
the
city's
website
in
accordance
with
policies.
A
Okay,
thank
you
assistant,
director
newell.
We
would
normally
have
public
comment
at
this
point.
Do
you
have
any
people
that
on
items
not
on
the
agenda,
do
you
have
anybody?
That's
requested
to
make
a
comment.
B
No
mr
chair,
we've
had
no
requests
to
speak
for
this
meeting.
The
applicants
for
each
item
are
on
the
line
and
we'll
be
able
to
make
a
presentation
when
their
item
is
heard.
A
E
Yes,
on
page
five,
the
fourth
paragraph
I
just
want
to
clarify
what
I
said
the
last
line
says
the
building
appears
as
a
housing
tenement.
I
want
to
clarify
that
what
I
meant
was
the
exposed
exterior
walkways,
particularly
on
the
east
elevation.
C
A
G
Thank
you
good
evening
as
introduced.
This
is
a
proposed
exterior
alterations
to
a
cannabis
facility.
G
Do
you
see
this
powerpoint
presentation.
G
All
right
so
I
was
introduced.
This
is
a
proposed
alterations
to
an
existing
building
for
a
cannabis,
dispensary
and
lounge.
The
african
is
requesting
approval
for
an
after
the
fact
project
and
the
scope
of
work
includes
repainting,
elixir,
building
walls
and
installation
of
outdoor
lighting
fixtures.
G
G
The
this
is
what
the
building
previously
looked
like.
The
the
exterior
wall
was
painting
the
white
with
some
light
beige
and
a
brown
paint
as
an
accent
and
the
right.
Now
the
building
is
painted
in
a
night
mission
for
the
exterior
building
walls
and
mine.
Architectural
features
are
painted
in
anchor
gray
as
shown
here,
and
these
are
the
images
of
the
existing
buildings.
G
So
this
is
not
approvable
request
for
an
after
the
fact.
Project
and
exterior
lighting
fixtures
do
not
fully
conform
to
the
city's
outdoor
lighting
standards
stan
finds
that
the
paint
colors
are
complementary
to
each
other
and
they
are
appropriate
for
the
project
site
concerning
its
location
and
the
design
of
the
outdoor
lighting
fixtures
is
compatible
with
the
designer
building.
G
However,
they
do
not
meet
the
outdoor
lighting
standards
and
for
this
reason
the
staff
recommends
the
aac
to
recommend
approval
this
project
to
the
city
council,
subject
to
the
conditions
below
the
first
one
is
that
african
shall
obtain
a
building
permit
for
the
installation
of
exterior
wall
mounted
lighting
fixtures
and
the
the
second
one
is
the
wall
mounted
lighting
fixtures
to
conform
to
the
cities
of
the
lighting
standards,
and
this
concludes
the
staff
presentation
and
the
stuff
in
applicants
are
both
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
thank
you.
A
G
This
site-
oh
excuse
me
that
was
actually
reviewed
when
the
cannabis
facility
was
first
reviewed
and
approved,
but
not
for
this
particular
project.
It's
it's
this.
This
particular
application
is
for
the
painting
of
the
buildings
and
the
outdoor
lighting
fixture
installation.
Only.
H
So,
yes,
thank
you,
tom
noriko,
this
project,
I'm
a
little
confused.
What
does
after
the
fact
mean.
G
Well,
when
the
business
first
moved
into
this
location,
the
cannabis
facility,
we
did
a
look
at
oak
street
parking
requirements
and
it's
just
the
general
development
standards
and
at
the
time
the
applicant
did
submitted
my
architecture
review
application
for
a
site
improvement,
but
that
was
specifically
for
the
establishment
of
a
cannabis
facility
and
this
one.
The
reason
why
you're
reviewing
this
application
today
is
because
the
cannabis
ordinance
has
been
amended
and
any
external
changes
proposed
to
the
building
requires
aac
and
the
city
council
review.
H
Yep,
it's
it's
hard
for
me
to
avert
my
eyes
from
the
parking
lot,
though,
and
the
lack
of
improvements
there
and
I'm.
I
know
it's
not
what
we
were
invited
to
talk
about
today,
but
I
don't
know.
Can
we
talk
about
that
because
it
look?
I
have
a
hard
time,
believing
that,
what's
there
right
now
or
at
least
on
these
photos
was
approved
and
as
adequate
screening
of
the
building
and
parking
lot.
G
The
parking
lot
improvement
is
not
really
a
part
of
this
project
again.
That
was
something
that
was
reviewed
when
this
cannabis
dispensary
in
the
lounge
moved
in
at
the
location
originally,
and
at
the
time
it
was
reviewed
and
approved
administratively.
G
H
B
B
B
We
got,
though
we
were
able
to
add
that
as
a
part
of
bringing
it
closer
to
performance,
but
what's
before
you
today
is
really
just
the
building
repaint.
So
again,
the
parking
lot
was
historically
a
non-conforming
condition.
We
did
some
things
to
make
it
closer
to
performance.
Obviously
it's
not
ideal.
B
G
C
Okay
with
that
banner
application,
was
there
a
lighting
component
to
it.
A
H
So
the
lighting
does
not
comply.
I'm
not
100
sure
I'm
clear
on
why
the
lighting
doesn't
comply
with
the
city
standards.
G
The
city
outdoor
lighting
standards
require
outdoor
lighting
to
be
shielded
so
that
it
will
not
creating
a
glare
or
any
kind
of
light
related
issues.
So
that's
what
is
not
conforming.
G
I
know
I
it
is
my
understanding
that
the
lighting
fixtures
in
the
parking
lot
was
reviewed
when
the
parking
lot
was
restriped
when
the
cannabis
facility
first
moved
in.
E
Okay
and
one
last
question
on
the
elevation,
so
the
light
fixtures
they
appear
on
the
south
and
the
east
elevation.
Are
they
also
on
the
other
two.
G
No
I,
when
I
conducted
this
visit,
I
checked
the
noise
elevation
building.
I
did
not
see
any
light
fixtures
installed
on
the
innovation.
This
is
just
the
portion
of
it,
but.
G
This
image
right
here
is
the
nose
elevation.
The
building,
but
stuff
did
not
observe
any
wall
mounted
picture.
E
G
E
The
last
question
I
have
for
you
is:
it
appears
on
at
least
on
the
elevations
that
were
submitted
as
part
of
our
package
that
there's
only
one
fixture
that
does
not
occur
under
a
canopy
and
that
would
be
in
the
bottom
photo
on
the
left.
Well,
okay,
right,
you
can
go
to
the
elevation,
it
appears
next
to
the
let's
see
the
on
the
south
elevation
on
the
left
side.
G
F
C
E
G
Yes,
so
just
to
show
this
site
plan,
the
business
is
occupying
this,
this
hatched
area,
only
so
it
is
adjacent
to
a
warehouse
next
to
it,
and
the
light
fixture
that
you
are
pointing
out
is
actually
in
front
of
this
warehouse
unit.
H
G
A
I
Or
too
much
hi,
my
name
is
andy
calver,
I'm
the
attorney
for
oc
coast,
jamie
chizik,
who
is
the
owner
along
with
his
wife,
melissa
chizik,
is
also
present,
as
noriko
said
in
her
excellent
report.
This
is
an
after
the
fact
application
for
approval
for
exterior
painting,
as
you
saw
from
the
pictures,
the
original
condition
of
this
building
was
really
not
great.
When
oc
coast
took
possession
of
it
in.
I
guess
it
was
about
the
spring
of
2018.
I
They
first
thing
that
we
did
was
submit
building
plans
so
that
we
could
basically
demolish
and
redo
the
entire
interior
and,
as
you
saw
from
the
outside
pictures,
the
paint
and
everything
that
had
been
on
there
before
the
white
and
the
beige.
It
was
old,
it
was
cracked.
I
What
oc
coast
wanted
to
do
was
really
freshen
up
the
way
this
building
looked,
give
it
much
more
of
a
deserty
feel
something
that
was
going
to
fit
into
the
community
and
something
that
would
appeal
to
the
customers,
the
residents,
the
buildings
that
were
all
around
it.
This
is,
you
know
much
more
of
a
neutral
color.
It's
a
lot
darker
than
what
you
saw
before,
but
it
does
look
nice
where
it
is
once
the
application
was
submitted
in
about
may
june
of
2018.
It
actually
took
almost
two
years
of
renovations
of
sidewalk
repairs.
I
Remember
lockheer!
I
know
you
were
asking
about
that.
Actually
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
work
was
done
on
the
sidewalk
and
the
parking
lot
of
this
premises
not
more
than
five
six
months
ago.
So
this
is
all
brand
new
work.
That's
been
done
on
the
outside,
it
was
repaved,
the
sidewalk
was
expanded
next
to
the
building.
The
handicap
entrance
was
re-graded
so
that
it
was
appropriate
for
ada
compliance
purposes.
I
Everything
has
been
done.
I
mean
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
have
gone
into
this
project.
It
finally
opened
in
august
2020
after
over
two
years
of
work
and
money
that
was
spent
into
this.
I
have
to
say.
Yes,
the
painting
was
done
a
bit
prematurely
in
the
hopes
that
this
place
was
going
to
open
a
little
bit
earlier
and
it
was
trying
to
just
get
it
really
nice
stuff
before
it
happened
that
ended
up
getting
extended.
So
we
put
in
our
application
for
the
after
the
fact.
I
E
I
do
yeah
a
couple
things
number
one
next
to
the
right
of
the
door,
there's
a
window
on
the
south
elevation
and
it
also
appears
on
the
east
elevation
and
you've
got
four
light
fixtures
over.
That
is
there
some
reason
that
there's
such
an
a
concentration
of
lighting
at
those
two
windows.
I
Those
windows
are
inside,
that's
basically
the
main
entrance.
Any
customers
are
going
to
go
in
through
the
front
doors
that
are
right
there
and
then
those
roll
up
windows,
those
are
rolled
up
during
the
day
and
there's
actually
a
mural,
that's
painted
on
there.
So
the
lights
are
there
basically
to
highlight
that.
That's
where
the
entrance
is.
E
Okay
and
in
the
spec
sheet
that
was
submitted
as
part
of
the
packet
are,
they
are
these
light
fixtures
really
battery
operated.
E
Okay,
all
right,
that's
that's!
Those
are
the
only
questions
I
have.
D
I
guess
I
I
have
a
question
in
in
our
document.
It
shows
so
so
this
approval
is
for
the
whole
building.
Even
though,
in
the
document
it
has
the
oc
coast,
inc
area,
the
2500
square,
foot
lounge,
is
it
all
owned
by.
C
C
H
I
A
C
Other
questions
yeah,
I
have
one
as
well
on
the
the
front
door
on
the
renderings.
Look,
they
look
like
a
double
glass
door,
but
in
the
photos,
it's
a
solid
white
door.
So
what
are
is
is
that
the
intent
to
change
that
to
a
glass
door.
C
I
I
I
These
are
in
right
in
the
very
front
like
foyer,
where
you
would
get
checked
in
and
then
there's
another
set
of
doors
that
leads
into.
H
I
A
A
question
for
staff
noriko
we're
just
hearing
now
that
there
is
a
mural
painted.
What
is
there
an
approval
process
that
they
need
to
go
through
to
get
approval
for
your
mural
either
through
the
arts
commission
or
through
us.
A
A
A
Oh-
and
I
do
want
to
make
a
point
to
the
committee,
because
this
is
after
the
fact
doesn't
mean
they
get
any
more
rights
of
approval-
we're
looking
at
this
as
if
this
is
a
brand
new
submittal
and
we
can
make
comments
and
findings
based
on
as
if
this
nothing
had
been
done.
And
this
is
our
initial
review
of
the
project.
H
H
It
it
enrique.
Are
you
able
to
pull
up
both
yeah
there?
You
go
the
roll-up
doors,
currently
the
solid
doors
tom
you
say:
they've
currently
been
changed
to
glass
doors.
H
It
seems
like
all
of
the
doors
and
roll-up
doors
on
the
elevation
read
a
little
better
when
they're
painted
as
well
not
left
to
be
this
white
color.
That's
shown
here
in
the
photos,
so
I
think
when
it
comes
to
paint
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
more
continuity
throughout
the
paint
scheme
here
in
reality
and
not
miss
that
detail
and
then
also
with
the
lights.
H
The
the
quantity
that
someone
brought
up
earlier
seems
I
don't
know
what
the
wattage
is
on
these
lights
or
why
there
would
be
four
lights
above
that
that
window
that
has
a
mural
on
the
interior
of
it
and
is
blacked
out
and
then
one
on
either
side.
You
know
flanking
the
the
entry
doors
here
that
just
seems
like
with
the
new
fixture
that
I
hope
gets
proposed,
it's
more
in
keeping
with
the
style
of
the
building
these.
H
These
look
like
track
house
kind
of
lights
that,
from
home
you
know,
looks
like
that's
with
the
the
receipt
that
was
on
that
documents
here,
like
a
battery
operated
light.
I'm
I'm
just
not
sure
I
understand
the
quantity
or
that
that
would
be
appropriate
with
the
new
style
of
light
being
proposed,
and
I
I
would
think
that
a
hardwired
light
with
some
type
of
commercial
application
lighting
requirements
that
were
met.
H
I
don't
even
know
that
that's
allowed
in
the
building
code
to
have
a
battery
operated
light
on
the
exterior
building,
especially
at
a
main
entrance,
but
the
style
of
them
in
general.
It
seems
with
all
the
money
that
that
those
folks
have
been
putting
into
their
building.
It
seems
odd
to
throw
in
the
towel
when
it
comes
to
the
main
entry
and
the
exterior
of
the
building,
and
these
lights,
like
look
like
they
just
threw
in
the
towel
and
grabbed
something
from
home
depot.
H
H
H
This
it
looks
a
bit
sad.
This
building
in
the
landscape
currently
is
not
helping
and
the
signage.
I
wonder
if
whatever
lifestyle
is
proposed,
I
think
science
should
be
kept
in
mind
if
it's
going
to
be
some
type
of
farmed
or
you
know,
barn
style
sign
light
or
something
that's
going
to
light
this
signage,
I'm
not
sure
what
anyone's
thinking,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
have
them
compliment
each
other,
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
about
that.
A
C
F
Ahead,
john
yeah,
you
know
I
I
would
first
of
all
concur.
F
I
have
no
problem
with
a
dark
color
like
this
and
certainly
treating
the
building
in
somewhat
of
a
monolithic
homogenous
way,
but
the
problem
is,
I
agree
with
sean
that
the
the
roll-up
doors
and
any
of
these
other
white
planes
end
up
popping,
and
I
think
they
defeat
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
with
this
building
reading,
as
sort
of
like
a
background
chunk
of
pigment
and
so
that
that
would
certainly
be
the
first
recommendation.
F
When
I
look
at
that
corner,
it
seems
as
though
there
was
a
bit
of
a
a
desperate
attempt
to
begin
to
define
the
entry,
and
I
think
I'm
I'm
going
to
take
a
wild
guess
here
that
that
is
one
of
the
purposes
of
that
repeated
fixture
that
you
have
there.
It's
it.
I
don't
think
it's
very
successful,
though,
and
if,
if
there
could
be
a
better
marriage
between
some
of
the
lighting
and
what
does
happen
in
terms
of
the
signage
in
its
location,
I
think
it
could
be
much
more
successful.
F
And,
yes,
I
would
you
know
ditto
on
the
landscaping.
I
think
it
is
an
unfortunate
aesthetic
anchor
that
holds
this
building
back
from
being
as
as
attractive
on
a
corner
as
it
possibly
could.
I
think
some
of
the
key
elements
of
making
this
work
are
here,
but
it
is
not.
It
is
not
developed
fully.
D
I
I
agree,
I
think
it
sounds
like
that
the
use
of
this
was
approved
by
the
city
council,
but
I
believe
it.
My
feeling
is
at
this
time
that
we
should
request
a
low
wall
or
landscaping
along
san
rafael
near
the
parking
area.
It
looks
like
people
have
driven
off
at
that
and
and
then
also
some
landscape
along
the
building
frontage.
Where
possible.
D
I
know,
there's
very
minimal
area,
but
there
is
some
plant
materials
that
could
be
placed
there
and
then
looking
at
at
the
front
of
the
building
to
the
west
of
the
entry
door,
there
might
be
the
opportunity
for
some
large
potted
plants
and
and
they
could
be
desert
plants
that
wouldn't
require
you
know
irrigation.
That
could
be
hand
watered,
but
something
another.
D
Some
large
pots
of
the
right
shape
could
provide
another
design
element
along
the
facade
of
that
building,
because
right
now
it's
just
it's
pretty
bleak
and
it
could
add
color
I
mean
it's,
I
think,
there's
an
opportunity
to
really
dress
this
up,
and
this
corner
is
becoming
more
and
more
important
as
we're
seeing
development
expanding
to
the
north
along
indian
avenue.
C
Nothing
additional
ad,
I
think,
yeah
the
roll-up
doors,
the
the
security
stuff
bugs
me
because
it
doesn't
really
mesh
with
the
rest
of
the
building.
So
that's
really
my
comment.
Thanks.
All
our
overalls
is
okay.
C
There's
an
alternate,
am
I
allowed
to
speak
sure?
Okay,
I
don't
mind
the
color.
I
agree
with
sean.
I
think
the
white
doors
are
distracting.
It
should
be
more,
maybe
the
trim,
color
or
something
else,
so
it
blends
in
a
little
bit
better
and
the
repeating
of
the
lights
I
kind
of
get
what
they're
trying
to
do,
but
I
just
I
think
it's
the
wrong
fixture
to
do
that
with.
E
About
yeah,
the
only
I'm
in
agreement,
pretty
much
with
everything
else
has
been
said.
I
might
just
say
that
I'm
not
a
big
fan
of
a
4
000
kelvin
fixture,
so
we
might
talk
about
or
consider
making
it
a
little
bit
warmer.
I
think
the
with
the
color
that's
on
the
building.
The
4000
is
just
going
to
make
it
not
make
it
more
attractive,
so
I
think
something
more
like
3,
500
or
even
30.
000
might
be
something
to
consider.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Yes,
so
I
concur
with
what's
been
said
so
far.
The
I
think
the
quantity
of
lights
is
not
there
for
a
security
issue
trying
to.
C
Opportunity
there
are
parking
lot
lights
that
are
providing
plenty
of
light
for
security,
it's
also
on
a
corner
with
street
lights.
So
that's
not
not
an
issue,
so
I
think
it
needs
to
be
looked
at
as
an
entry
solution,
the
existing
sign,
the
or
I'm
sorry.
The
temporary
sign
they've
also
placed
a
light
fixture
unshielded
shining
up
on
top
of
the
canopy.
C
A
H
Please
I'll
make
a
motion
sean
yeah.
I
make
a
motion
that
we
ask
this
application
to
revise
and
resubmit.
Based
on
those
comments
we
outline
I'd
like
to
also
second,
mr
rotman's
comment
about
the
lighting
temperature.
I
think
attention
should
be
paid
to
that
and
get
that
down
to
something
warmer
like
3
000
kelvin.
If
it's
going
to
be
an
led.
A
Rico,
do
you
have
a
list
of
comments
that
we
need
to
review,
or
is
the
motion
complete
enough.
G
Right
now,
the
motion
is
for
the
application
to
be
revised
and
resubmitted
for
further
review
and
the
temperature
of
the
lighting
to
be
around
the
three
thousand
kelvin.
But
that's
all
we
have
right
now.
H
H
We
also
mentioned
I'm
not
sure
that
anyone
elaborated
on
it,
but
there
was
the
signage.
So
if
future
signage
should
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
some
exterior
lighting
fixture
that
would
illuminate
that
sign
that
they
consider
that
yeah
and
then
landscape.
H
I
know
we
had
a
couple
of
bullet
items
on
that,
but
mostly
talking
about
how
unfortunate
it
is
that
nothing
can
be
done
about
it,
because
it's
such
a
it's
a
red
light
that
I
often
stop
at
if
I'm
leaving
town
and-
and
so
I
know
it's
a
focal
point,
this
particular
building
and
anyway
not
sure
what
to
do
about
that.
One
though.
A
A
D
Mr
chairman,
I
I
do
have
a
question
regarding
this
project
sure
I
was
involved
in
the
redesign
of
this
project,
like
I
guess
it's
more
than
10
years
ago,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
if
I
need
to
abstain
from
any
comment
regarding
this
proposed.
So
was.
D
It
was
for
the
noble
house
resorts
and
development,
hotels
and
resorts.
A
Assistant
planner
noel,
can
you
clarify?
I
don't
think
that
there's
a
conflict
I
would
think
he
should
be
able,
since
this
is
a
different
applicant
and
a
different
project,.
B
Yes,
you're
correct
chair.
I
think,
given
the
time
frame
too
being
more
than
a
year
significantly,
I
think
it's
a
fifth
member
does.
He
participates.
A
Okay,
member
doce,
thank
you
very
much
for
being
clear
about
that
and
making
sure
there
wasn't
an
issue.
So
now
do
we
have
a
staff
report.
G
This
is
appropriate
sign
program,
amendment
at
the
margaritaville
resort,
which
is
located
at
the
1600
north
indian
canyon,
drive
and
they're,
proposing
to
install
one
monument
sign
at
the
northeast
corner
of
north
indian
canyon
and
east
east
vista.
G
China
drive-
and
this
is
the
the
project
site,
location
and
the
signage
will
be
located
at
the
corner,
as
shown
with
the
yellow
arrow
right
here,
and
the
proposed
sign
will
be
located
out
of
the
the
kona
compact
area,
which
is
required
by
the
zoning
code
to
ensure
that
the
signage
will
not
interfere
with
the
the
traffic
circulation.
G
These
are
the
images
of
the
project
site.
The
sun
installation
area
is
landscaped
with
a
desert,
tolerant,
landscape
right
now,
and
there
is
a
very
expensive
tall,
ficus
hedge.
In
the
background-
and
this
is
a
purple
signage,
the
square
footage
of
the
purple
signage
is
approximately
105
square
feet.
The
overall
height
is
eight
feet
and
the
projections
are
approximately
2.75
feet
at
the
maximum,
and
the
monument
sign
will
accommodate
the
company
is
a
corporate
logo,
as
shown
here.
This
is
a
trademark
and
the
color
a
palette
of
the
signage.
G
G
There
will
be
the
multiple
layers
of
the
signage
to
create
this.
The
corporate
signage.
G
The
staff
finds
that
the
purple
sign
conforms
to
the
applicable
zoning
regulations,
which
means
that
this
sign
program,
management,
application
review
will
end
with
architectural
advisory
committee
and
also
the
staff
finds
that
the
scale
height
and
design
are
contextually
appropriate
for
the
project
site
and
for
this.
For
this
reason,
the
staff
recommend
that
it
is
excuse
me
architecture,
advisory
committee
to
recommend
that
projects
are
subject
to
the
foreign
condition.
G
The
approval
of
this
design
program.
Amendment
application
is
for
the
proposed
monument
sign
only
other
after
the
fact
sign
shall
be
reviewed
under
a
separate
sign,
permit
or
signed
program.
Amendment
application-
and
this
concludes
the
start
presentation
and
that
the
applicant
is
available.
If
you
have
any
applicant
and
the
staff
are
both
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
thank
you.
A
Mariko,
I
have
a
question:
why
are
we
reviewing
the
monument
sign,
knowing
that
there's
going
to
be
other
signage
coming
forward?
Normally,
we
would
review
all
the
signage
as
one
application,
so
we
can
see
how
they
all
relate
to
each
other
is
and
also
I
notice
you're,
calling
it
a
an
amendment.
I
believe,
to
an
existing
signage
program
that
signage
program
I
know,
was
established
when
noble
house
converted
this
property
back
to
being
the
riviera
hotel.
G
G
Yes,
this
is
an
amendment
to
the
previous
sign
program
which
was
implemented
for
the
riviera
hotel,
but
the
sign
program
is
very
specific
to
signage.
At
that
time,
square.
Footage
of
the
sign
that
was
proposed
for
the
the
riviera
hotel
was
75
square
feet,
whereas
this
signage
is
a
little
bit
larger
and
I
so
for
the
reason
this
is
treated
as
a
sign
program
amendment
and
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
A
G
E
Marco
another
question
do
in
terms
of
scale:
do
you
have
an
idea
how
tall
the
hedges
that's
around
the
portico
share
and
the
drive
drive
through.
I
G
It's
about
nine
feet
based
on
the
the
height
of
the
hedge,
that's
indicating
the
previous
application.
The
height
of
the
pitch
is
actually
about
9.3
feet.
F
Is
that
john
walsh?
Yes,
it
is
john
mulch
enrico
it
it
you.
You
touched
on
it
because
I
was
looking
for
some
statement
as
to
the
comparative
size
between
the
old
riviera
sign
and
what
this
is
that
is
proposed.
So
this
is
larger.
Yes,
it
is.
G
G
G
Well,
actually,
the
riviera
hotel
sign
was
longer
it
expanded,
more
lineal,
but
the
hype
was
actually
shorter.
It
just
the
highest
point.
Was
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
what's
been
proposed
here
for
the
margaritaville,
because
maybe
sign
has
this
star
element
which
kind
of
extended
above
the
the
rest
of
the
signage,
does.
G
The
105
square
feet
is
less
than
what
the
zoning
code
would
allow.
So
if
you
go
to
page
seven
of
the
stock
port
there's
a
table
that
includes
a
summary
of
the
project's
conformance
to
the
applicable
zoning
standards
and
just
to
keep
in
mind
that
when
the
rivera
hotel
sign
program
was
reviewed,
the
maximum
permitted
sign
area
for
the
site
was
75
square
feet.
The
city
has
amended
the
sign
ordinance
regulations
since
and
based
on
the
current
sign
regulations.
A
J
Hey
john
cross
best
lines
here,
I'm
at
soccer
practice
so
I'll
make
it
I'll
make
it
brief.
This
monument
here
is
a
brand
monument
sign
not
much
in
the
way
of
design
from
our
firm
into
the
sign.
We
basically
took
an
example
and
duplicated
it
because
it's
their
brand
sign
fabricated,
aluminum
logo,
and
you
know
some
tiki
wood
basically
consists
of
the
design
palette.
E
Robert
yeah
john,
thank
you.
Would
you
mind
going
through
later
on
later,
the
images.
J
Are
you,
are
you
specifically
referring
to
the
logo.
J
E
Okay
and
then
I
understood
the
standard
report
correctly,
there's
no
backlighting
on
the
sun
or
island
so
that
the
sticker
is
eliminated.
Is
that
right.
J
Yeah
no,
the
stucco
background
is,
is
opaque
so
that
that's
it's
all
fabricated,
aluminum
stucco
finish.
So
the
the
only
lighting
elements
are
the
the
channel
letters.
E
Okay-
and
the
last
question
I
have
is
that
so
the
margaritaville
and
the
word
resort
are
are
the
outermost
layer,
and
those
are
mounted
with
pins
back
to
the
stucco
sign.
Is
that
right?
So
they
are
at
least
10
inches
long.
J
Yeah,
the
all
thread
has
been
painted
black,
but
other
than
that
yeah
there's,
no
there's
no
cover
or
or
shield
you
know,
pin
cover.
I
guess
you'd
call
it
for
those
spacers.
It's.
C
E
And,
and
so
the
other
thing
is
that
mention
that
the
side
of
the
margaritaville
is
painted
black
and
there's
also
black
on
the
sun
and
the
pop
and
the
oh
you
see,
there
are
different
colors.
Is
that
right.
J
Yeah
yeah,
the
only
thing
black
is
the
margaritaville
and
the
parrot.
The
beach
or
resort
section
would
be
white
on
the
return,
and
then
the
the
logo
elements
would
integrate
with
the
with
the
coloring
on
the
face.
F
Yes,
I
just
did
this
was
put
forth
and
designed,
though,
basically
by
margaritaville
corporate
correct,
or
did
they
just
say?
We
want
a
large
sign
out
there.
J
Yeah,
no,
you
are
correct
their
design
firm
provided
us
with
examples
of
previous
sign
types.
There
was
pretty
clear
and
concise
parameters
to
to
follow.
There
wasn't
much
in
the
way
of
any
creative
design
on
our
part.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Steve
anything,
no,
I'm
good.
Okay!
I
just
have
one
question
from
noriko
when
we're
looking
at
this
sign,
there's
that
little,
I
think
they
call
it
a
compass.
That's
down
on
the
tiki
portion,
there's
a
very
large
element
of
that.
That's
probably
seven
feet
tall,
that's
been
painted
on
the
side
of
the
building.
A
G
G
No,
it's
actually
the
the
compass
graphic
on
the
building
wall
and
then
also
the
treatment
of
the
fascia
for
the
poor
crochet.
The
staff
thinks
that
they
both
should
be
reviewed
under
a
minor
architectural
review.
Okay,
signage,
but
big
studio
change
to
the
building.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
thank
you
john
very
much
discussion
any
further
discussion.
Besides
what
our
questions
answered
for
us,
do
we
have
a
motion.
I.
D
D
Some
of
the
notes
that
I
made
is,
I
would
like
to
see
the
tiki
base
expanded
much
longer
than
what
it
is
and
then
maybe
it
could
terminate
into
some
some
rocks
or
bolder
groupings
that
would
kind
of
anchor
the
sign,
rather
than
just
so
there's
a
transition
between
the
landscape
and
the
base
of
the
sun.
D
You
know
I
first
questioned
the
material,
but
I
could
see
where
that
would
work
with
their
logo,
but
I
think
it
could
be
expanded
and
then
the
op
the
option
or,
if
there's
an
opportunity,
to
remove
the
background,
the
stucco
piece
and
just
have
the
letters
and
the
logos
and
all
that
kind
of
be
its
own
thing,
where
it's
kind
of
where
it's
floating
there
or
because
I
feel
like
the
shape
of
the
background,
is,
is
incongruent
with
the
the
building
and
it
looks
like
it
belongs
with
a
different
style
of
architecture.
D
F
I
I
want
to
build
upon
what
tom
does
is
sort
of
expressing
there.
I
think
that
the
the
the
sign
that
preceded
this
was
pretty
much
a
tour
de
force.
It
it
sort
of
married
the
architecture
with
the
graphics,
and
I
think,
the
magic
that
made
it
work
was
its
transparency
and
its
lightness.
F
You
could
see
through
it
and
it
had
a
certain
fluid
quality
to
it.
This
this
sign
that
is
proposed
is
a
little
bit
of
a
polar
opposite.
It
is
it's,
it's
an
edifice
and
it's
sort
of
parked
there
and
it
looks
a
bit
stout
and
inelegant,
and
I
think
that
the
the
possibility
of
removing
the
stucco
and
beginning
to
achieve
some
levels
of
transparency
and
openness
in
that
sign
so
that
you
sort
of
it
it's
there.
F
H
Yeah
also
building
on
those
same
comments.
One
of
the
things
that
jumps
out
at
me
at
this
sign
is,
and
looking
at
the
previous
sign
was.
The
previous
sign
seemed
to
really
incorporate
into
the
landscape
nicely,
and
this
sign
instead
has
sort
of
a
plasticky
pseudo
reality
or
prosthetic
type
of
appeal
to
it.
H
In
this
ocean
theme,
the
palm
trees,
it's
it's
literally
using
a
plastic
prosthetic
wood
material
so,
and
I
think
one
of
the
comments
about
the
shape
of
the
sign
marrying
with
the
architecture
or
or
really
maybe
deviating
from
trying
to
create
this
arched
background
in
this
corporate
image
kind
of
a
sign.
H
That
may
do
some
weathering
discoloring
over
time
seems
to
align
with
a
margarita
feel
or
essence
that
that
comes
to
mind
when
I
think
about
this
brand
and
losing
some
of
this
sort
of
fake
plasticky
appeal
to
it,
I
think,
is
the
direction
I'd
like
to
see.
This
sign
go
something
that
marries
up
with
the
architecture
and
the
landscape
more
and
communicates
that.
H
So
I
think
what
I'd
love
to
say
is
and
hopefully
make
a
motion
soon
to
when
for
a
revision,
and
a
recent
middle
of
this
would
be
a
landscape
plan
that
incorporates
into
this
signage
a
bit
tom.
I
think
you
are
maybe
saying
an
elongation
of
the
base
of
this
sign,
or
something
like
that.
H
I
would
think
that
I'll
kind
of
reveals
itself
eventually
with
a
reevaluation
of
what
this
sign
really
wants
to
be
at
the
corner,
but
it's
this
would
be
a
tough
one
to
approve
to
go
from
what
was
there
previously
to
something
with
such
a
corporate
and
plasticky
kind
of
feel
at
this
major
intersection?
C
E
I
just
want
to
sort
of
reinforce
that
this
sign
is
not
just
viewed,
you
know
straight
on
and
that
what
they're
proposing
as
you
move
down,
either
indian
or
racquet
club,
is
you're
going
to
see
the
side
of
these
signs
with
all
those
hens,
and
I
really
think
you
know
you
need
to
think
about
this
sign
if
you
didn't
mention
how
it's
presented
in
the
report
and
the
photographs-
and
I
agree
that
that
this
is
very
corporate
and
probably
not
appropriate,
or
this
particular
property
in
this
location,
even
though
it
falls
well
within
what's
allowable
in
terms
of
the
sign
code,
I
think
it's
way
too
big.
E
I
think
sign
this
intercession.
It's
just
going
to
dominate
the
whole
entry
and
and
really
compromise
it,
so,
whether
it's
as
a
member
docie
suggested
it's
more
of
a
cut
without
a
background
which
I
would
be
actually
okay
with.
But
to
have
this
eight
foot
high
stucco
background
monument
sign.
I
think
it's
really
inappropriate
and
is
the
wrong
scale,
guys.
D
I
have
a
question
for
noriko
the
ficus
hedge
that
was
placed
at
the
at
the
drop-off
or
of
the
hotel
originally
that
that
was
not
part
of
the
original
plans
and
part
there
was
there.
Was
this
desire
to
have
a
trans
transparency
from
the
corner
to
the
inside
into
the
even
into
the
building?
G
According
to
the
the
application
that
came
to
planning
back
in
2016,
but
at
the
time
I
was
for
the
review
of
a
different
sign
design.
G
The
staff
proved
this
this
sign,
which
was
never
installed
at
the
site,
but
it
says
no
approval
of
a
change
in
the
landscape,
and
I
think
that
is
what
remember:
dulce
is
mentioning
about
the
hedge.
It's
really
difficult
tell
what
was
the
previous
condition
of
the
property
was
based
on
this
rendering,
but
I'm
not
sure
when
exactly
this
hedge
explode
or
anything,
but
the
2016
record
shows
that
there
are
no
changes
approved
in
terms
of
a
landscape.
A
G
Or
yes,
so
I
see
as
staff's
note
crossing
out
the
hedge
that
was
shown
on
the
rendering.
So
that
suggests
that
the
hedge
in
the
background
was
not
really
meant
to
be.
There.
A
Thank
you
noriko.
If
there's
no
other
comments,
I
think
sean
said
he
has
a
motion
in
mind.
H
Yeah
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
see
this
project
again
with
a
revision
that
includes
the
various
comments
that
that
we
laid
out
here
and
noriko.
Let
me
know
if
you
want
me
to
kind
of
zip
through
some
of
those
or
all
of
them.
H
Why
don't
you
do
that?
Okay,
you
guys
jump
in
here
the
materials
I
think
the
use
of
synthetic
materials
on
the
base
and
the
the
palm
trees.
I
was
encouraging
the
use
of
actual
real
materials
that
have
more
of
a
character
and
weathering
to
them.
H
H
Yeah
synthetic
motif
that
that
was
going
on
here
and
that's
all
I
have
but
folks
take
it
from
there.
A
H
I
want
to
throw
one
more
out
there.
I
notice
a
sort
of
bluish
turquoisey
ocean
here
and
at
the
base
of
the
palm
trees,
seems
to
be
created
out
of
plastic.
So
if
there
was
a-
and
we
didn't
talk
about
this-
and
maybe
it's
not
fair
to
add
it
now,
but
when
we're
talking
about
a
genuineness
of
materials,
maybe
there's
a
water
feature
of
something
that
could
be
incorporated
somehow.
F
And
you
know
I
raised
this
almost
as
a
question,
but
but
this
this
this
last
almost
post
script
in
terms
of
that
that
ficus
hedge,
that
is
huge
in
terms
of
its
impact
with
your
perception
of
of
the
building-
is
that
something
that
gets
relooked
at
or
at
least
fully
integrated.
So
we
know
yes,
they
are
committed
to
this
nine
foot
tall
edge
that
basically
cuts
the
sign
off
from
the
balance
of
the
building.
Is
that
I'm
sorry
that
came
out
in
a
rambling
way
sure
it.
F
D
Comment,
I
think
the
green
hedge
is
almost
like
a
throwback
to
the
parker
hotel,
where
maybe
it
worked
there.
Someone
decided
in
management
to
put
and
and
back
to
sean
your
comment
there.
There
are
actually
bubblers
and
little
ponds
that
had
water
jets.
That
came
out
of
the
rock
areas,
so
they
may
be
able
to
be
reactivated.
But
your
idea
of
creating
an
overall
theme
of
the
corner,
with
the
sign,
I
think,
is
a
good
one.
A
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
and
the
motion
is
to
continue
this
item
with
the
comments
that
sean
has
listed.
All
in
favor.