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Actually,
no,
we
have
one
public
hearing.
So
if
you're
here
to
address
us
on
the
class
one
nomination
of
the
haman
residence,
you
can
do
so
at
that
time.
If
you'd
like
to
address
us
that
on
any
other
issues,
now
would
be
the
great
a
good
time
to
do
that
and
Ken.
Is
it
two
or
three
minutes
now
it'll.
B
Good
Maria,
could
you
raise
a
mic
just
a
little
bit
if
you
can't
I,
think
Oh
mr.
Marsh
is
joining
us.
D
Good
morning
HSP
be
esteemed
members.
My
name
is
Tracy
Conrad
and
I
present
myself
here
to
you
as
the
new
president,
a
newly
elected
president
of
the
Palm
Springs
Historical
Society,
and
to
receive
your
condolences
as
well
as
a
congratulations.
I
come
to
talk
about
the
downtown
plaza
and
in
hopes
that
HSP
will
take
the
lead
in
making
sure
that
we
do
deference
to
this
historic
portion
of
town
and
I
want
to
clarify
some
misconceptions
that
I've
heard
bandied
about
over
the
last
few
years
about
the
desert
in
gates.
D
They
are
in
the
possession
of
oh
and
Kylie,
not
Tom,
Kylie
I,
believe,
and
he
has
offered
them
for
a
loan
to
the
city
in
perpetuity
as
long
as
they
are
displayed
somewhere
and
and
to
pay
homage
to
the
Desert
Inn,
as
well
as
there's
a
hillside
vase
that
Westman
development
is
aware
of
that
formed
the
center
of
the
fountain.
That
was
in
the
the
dining
patio
of
the
Desert
Inn
and
that
is
preserved
somewhere.
D
E
Good
morning,
good
morning,
historic
site
board,
I'm
Robert,
amber
I'm,
gonna,
speak
another
item
agenda
item,
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
relative
to
the
work
that
you
all
do
and
things
that
we
all
care
about
so
deeply
to
pay
a
little
tribute
to
the
late
Bill
kreisel.
So
apropos
to
this
group
architect
bill
kreisel,
we
may
not.
We
all
know
I,
know
passed
away
about
a
week
ago
at
age
92
having
been
instrumental
in
Palm
Springs
and
done
in
five
or
six
states
over
40,000
housing
units.
E
So
it's
about
the
country,
it's
so
important
to
history,
to
architecture,
to
innovation
and
design
and
how
Americans
and
other
people
live
and
how
people
come
today
to
study
and
appreciate
his
work
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
beyond.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
came
up
here
and
paid
a
little
tribute
to
our
dear
late
friend
bill
kreisel.
Let
me
add
to
that
obituaries
and
comments,
and
on
facebook
or
all
over
the
place
and
filmmaker
Jake
Gorst.
Who
did
the
documentary
film
on
Bill?
E
B
You
mr.
Muir
anyone
else
wishing
to
address
the
board
this
morning
already
seeing
none
we'll
post
the
public
comment
our
first
item
on
the
agenda
this
morning.
It
is
a
public
hearing
one
a
this
is
an
application
by
William
Stewart
owner
for
class.
One
Historic,
Site
designation
of
the
Carl
Haymond
residence
located
at
1415,
north
sentro
HSP
be
number
107.
It's
owned
are
one
a
can.
Do.
I
need
to
enter
in
the
APN
number,
no.
B
A
Yes,
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
as
noted
in
your
staff
report.
This
is
an
application
by
Bill
Stewart
for
class,
one
historic
designation
of
the
Carli
Heyman
residence
located
at
1415
North
Camino
Central.
The
report
historic
resources
report
for
this
application
was
prepared
for
the
homeowner
by
the
Palm
Springs
Preservation
Foundation.
In
your
staff
report,
the
the
staff
report
summarizes
the
information
that
is
in
the
historic
resources
report
and
the.
A
Summary
of
it
and
the
the
various
findings
against
the
criteria
of
the
ordinance
are
found
on
pages
5,
&
6
of
your
report,
noting
that
it
meets
the
criteria
for
to
the
definition
of
a
historic
site,
as
well
as
meeting
the
criteria
of
your
item,
3,
which
is
the
exemplifying
a
particular
period
in
national
state
or
local
history,
that
being
the
modern
period
in
Palm
Springs.
It
also
notes
that
it
embodies
the
distinct
characteristics
of
a
period
of
time,
and
it
also
presents
the
work
of
props
and
chambers
in
Elbert
Frey.
A
Both
architects,
as
well
as
many
others
in
the
Palm
Springs
area
at
various
times
collaborated
with
one
another
in
different
combinations
and,
as
noted
in
the
historic
resources
report
for
this
project,
Frey
and
chambers
were
credited
with
the
design
of
the
home.
As
noted
on
page
6
of
your
report,
the
integrity
of
the
home
and
the
site
is
considered
very
high.
It's
basically
in
its
near
original
condition,
with
very
few
minor
modifications
to
the
exterior
on
page
7
of
your
report
is
a
proposed
list
of
what
are
the
defining
historic
characteristic
and
then
as
well.
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A
C
A
C
B
F
Is
now
president
of
the
problem
springs
Preservation
Foundation
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
mr.
William
Stewart,
the
owner
of
the
Carl
E
Heyman
residence.
He
could
not
be
here.
This
morning
mr.
Stewart
called
upon
PSP
F
to
write
the
nomination
for
class
1
historic
designation,
PSP
F
board
members,
Ron
and
Barbara
Marshall
had
prepared
another
stellar
nomination,
which
you
have
had
a
chance
to
read.
The
home
was
designed
by
the
firm
of
Frey
and
chambers.
F
In
1963
phrase,
work
has
become
synonymous
with
Palm
Springs
from
the
tramway
gas
station
to
City
Hall,
to
phrase
own
home
on
the
hill.
A
few
years
ago,
a
collection
of
Frey
designs
or
nominated
to
the
National
Register
of
Historic
Places,
while
not
as
well-known
the
Heyman
residents
deserving
of
historic,
designation
as
well.
It
is
full
of
typical
frame
motifs,
most
notably
metallic
screens
that
provide
both
privacy
as
well
as
decorative
touches.
Beautiful
terrazzo
fills
the
spaces
with
largest
large
expanses
glass
that
blur
the
boundaries
between
the
indoors
and
the
outdoors.
F
The
nomination
which
you
are
Fred
shows
the
numerous
attributes
that
contribute
to
the
relevance
as
a
class
one.
The
home
has
been
beautifully
restored
by
mr.
Stewart
in
the
last
year
and
it's
been
showcased
by
the
various
architecture
and
design
organizations
in
Palm
Springs
on
behalf
of
mr.
Stewart,
my
colleagues
at
PS
PFI
urge
you
to
vote
to
recommend
class
one
historic
status
to
the
City
Council.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
D
Mr.
chair
I
found
this
property
to
be
in
prime
condition.
I
mean
they
fully
took
advantage
of
all
of
the
features
that
have
been
preserved
over
the
years,
and
there
have
been
a
number
of
features
in
the
house
that
have
been
preserved
and
I
think
they
did
an
exquisite
job
with
what
they
did
to
the
home
inside
and
out
so
I
mean
I
would
highly
recommend
we
move
forward
with
the
designation.
C
B
Todd
Hayes
was
in
a
second
and
any
further
discussion
on
this
I
think
that
we're
all
in
agreement
that
this
is
a
really
wonderful
example
of
a
collaboration
between
Robson
chambers
and
Albert
Frey
and
for
a
research
geek
like
myself,
I
love,
seeing
the
the
title
block
here
included
in
the
in
the
innominate
and
the
nuance
that
the
RC
initials
are
Seaver
there
is
that,
as
he
was
the
he
as
he
checked
the
drawings.
So
any
further
discussion.
Mr.
chair.
D
B
D
Just
am
so
thrilled
that
this
homeowner
took
advantage
of
what
was
there
I
mean
he
looked
for
a
property
that
he
could
restore
and
he
did
that
he
he
didn't
change
out
things,
for
instance
the
windows
or
the
tiles
around
the
patio.
He
really
took
the
features
that
were
original
and
he
worked
with
them
and
I
think
this
is
a
prime
example
of
what
can
be
done
to
some
of
the
homes
that
we
see
that
they
come
in
and
they
want
to
tear
them
down
and
do
something
else
it.
This
is.
This
was
just
outstanding.
H
H
It
was
kind
of
a
derivative
of
the
screens
and
that
they
had
purchased
more
from
Denver
and
sold
them
on
the
house,
and
it
is
an
exceptionally
significant
property
and
it
does
meet
all
the
criteria
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
architecture
and
events
and
design
and
characteristics
of
the
interior
and
exterior,
as
everyone
has
said,
that
have
pretty
much
remained
intact.
So
I
strongly
support
and
recommend
nomination
of
the
property
Thank
You.
Mr.
C
I'll
just
add:
I
couldn't
agree
more
with
everything
that
everybody
said,
especially
the
windows
and
respect
to
the
screens,
and
all
that
the
other
thing
is
I.
Think
it's
imperative
that
we
say
properties
like
this,
because
it
really
is
I
know
a
little
bit
about
Albert,
Frei
and
as
an
example
of
his
work.
It
is
truly,
you
know,
I
still
in
going
over
this
house.
C
It's
like
this
is
an
Albert
Frey
and
it's
imperative
that
we
save
every
example
that
we
can
to
show
the
breadth
and
and
range
of
an
architect's
work
and
we're
blessed
by
having
so
much
of
his
work
here,
and
this
is
a
very
unusual
work
of
his
and
it
is
a
later
work
of
his
and
it's
imperative
that
we
save
it
so
for
future,
people
can
understand
the
range
of
work
that
he
did
in
from
that
standpoint
alone.
It's
absolutely
worth
saving
so
yeah
kudos
to
the
people
who
worked
on
this
I
agree.
B
So
we
have
a
first
in
a
second
no
further
discussion,
all
in
favor
aye.
Anyone
opposed.
Thank
you
very
much,
a
great
staff
report
on
that
too
cube
part.
Our
next
item
on
the
abit
on
the
agenda
is
new
business.
This
is
2a.
This
is
a
certificate
of
approval
application
by
Sukhoi
architects
to
establish
a
sign
program
for
Kaptur
Plaza,
a
multi-tenant
commercial
complex
located
at
600
650
700
and
750
East
tahquitz
canyon,
way,
zone
dario
case
SP,
17-0,
0,
5h,
SPB
number
97.
This
is
a
class
1
historic
site,
David
Thank.
I
So
as
the
new
owners
have
taken
over
ownership
of
the
properties
here,
they've
prepared
the
sign
program
in
conjunction
with
mr.
Kaptur
and
Susan
Sukhoi,
Jensen
and
architects,
to
establish
the
signage
that
would
be
permitted
moving
forward
for
the
complex
and
what
they've
done
is
they
put
together,
basically,
a
package
that
includes
various
types
of
signage,
specifically
you're.
I
I
Exhibit
for
you
today
is
the
Afghan
has
prepared
a
rendering
of
what
the
proposed
monument
sign
would
look
like
along
the
street
here
in
TOC,
woods
and
they've.
Also,
given
us
some
elevations,
showing
the
directories
as
they
would
be
installed
on
the
in
between
the
breezeways,
so
for
three
of
the
buildings,
the
directors
would
be
installed
on
the
tile
surfaces
and
in
the
on
the
750
building.
It
would
be
installed
on
the
stucco
surface
in
between
the
breezeway
areas.
I
When
staff
looked
at
this
proposed
sign
program,
we
evaluated
against
the
sign
ordinance,
which
is
section
93,
20
and
noted
on
page
3
of
your
report,
where
the
program
was
not
conforming.
The
one
instance
where
this
program
is
in
not
conforming
to
the
zoning
code
is
the
height
of
the
monument
sign.
The
height
is
proposed
to
twelve
feet
overall
from
the
surface
to
the
top,
and
the
sign
ordinance
limits,
monument
signs
to
eight
square
feet
to
eight
feet
in
height,
so
they're
requesting
a
deviation
for
the
overall
height.
I
However,
when
we
looked
at
the
findings
for
issuance
of
certificates
of
approval,
we
believe
that
the
proposed
program
does
meet
these
guidelines
when
evaluating
it.
The
proposed
sign
program
for
the
three
that
are
required
for
issuance
of
the
certificate
of
approval,
so
specifically
the
height
of
this
monument
sign,
would
allow
less
signage
on
the
building,
and
so,
therefore,
it
may
be
justified
to
go
to
be
a
taller
monument
sign
again.
I
There
is
only
one
monument
sign
for
the
two
properties,
so
that
is
I
is
not
a
proliferation
of
signage
for
the
properties
and
again,
the
propose
Sonia
meant
sign
is
located
on
a
lower
elevation
than
the
adjacent.
The
the
adjacent
landscape
areas
which
are
elevated
with
the
adjacent
attainable.
So
again,
some
justification
there.
As
far
as
the
looking
at
how
the
sign
program
impacts
the
historic
value
and
under
the
findings,
we
felt
that
you
know
there
are
limited
areas
that
scientists
would
be
proposed.
I
The
areas
where
it
potentially
could
impact
the
historic
significance
would
be
on
the
stucco
surfaces.
We
did
believe
that
you
know.
We
do
believe
that
those
surfaces
when
a
signage
when
signage
is
removed
and
replaced
can
be
repaired
and
painted
to
match
the
adjacent
surface.
So
that
is
something
that
we
looked
at
when
we,
when
we
evaluated
the
program
with
that
I'll
conclude
my
presentation.
If
you
have
to
answer
any
questions,
we
do
feel
that
the
monument
sign
by
itself
does
complement
the
architecture
and
would
be
preferable
for
for
this
type
of
project.
I
B
B
K
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Hugh
Kaptur,
along
with
soil
architects.
We
have
examined
the
site
and
fortunately
the
two
projects
are
now
under
one
ownership.
At
one
time
we
thought
of
putting
a
monument
sign
here
and
here
and
then
it
was
decided
to
since
it's
under
one
ownership
to
join
the
two
properties
by
eliminating
the
wall.
That's
between
the
parking
that
goes
and
now
there's
trash
containers
on
both
sides.
K
B
K
L
Susan,
thank
you,
and
we
have
worked
with
you
very
closely
on
this
proposal
and
it
is
a
matter
of
just
continuing
the
legacy
of
what
the
buildings
were
originally
meant
to
be
we're
trying
to
keep
the
signage
understated
yet
effective,
and
so
therefore,
that's
what
we
have
presented
to
you.
We're
going
with
the
dark,
anodized
bronze,
which
was
the
original
design
and
I,
do
have
an
elevation
of
the
original
plans.
L
If
you
need
to
see
that,
but
overall,
just
keeping
in
character
with
the
original
design
there
are
currently
the
building
numbers
are
on
there
as
a
dark
anodized.
But
all
three
building
numbers
that
you
can
see
from
talk
wits
canyon
are
different
and
so
we're
suggesting
that
we
stick
with
the
700
building
numbers
which
are
in
your
packet.
They
seem
to
be
the
cleanest,
almost
nitrous
style
font
and
we're
trying
to
replicate
that
with
the
rest
of
the
building
design.
So
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions.
B
F
Thank
you,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
having
Hugh
involved
in
this
has
been
a
pleasure,
it's
nothing
I
would
have
designed
or
even
thought
of
coming
up
with,
so
that
credit
goes
to
him,
but
I
think
what's
also
very
important
that
it
was
mentioned,
but
I
think
not
pointed
out
clearly
enough.
These
buildings
are
all
raised
up
from
ground
level
about
almost
3
feet
due
to
a
retaining
wall
in
front
so
Hugh.
When
you
mentioned
this
to
me,
he
said.
F
Well,
you
know
the
normal
place
is
to
put
one
monument
sign
in
front
of
each
building,
which
makes
sense
well
with
the
8
foot
allowance
that
8
feet
starts
3
feet
above
sidewalk
level,
so
you're
still
looking
at
an
11
foot
sign,
so
Hugh's
idea
was
to
bring
it
down
to
ground
level,
so
not
only
it's
more
visible,
but
still
keep
within
the
height
restrictions.
The
massivity
of
the
two
buildings
together.
F
D
L
H
See
mr.
chair,
it
may
ask
a
question
of
staff.
Absolutely
so
that
can
you
explain
to
me
when
there's
a
deviation
in
the
sign
ordinance
and
that
this
signage
is
when
the
blade
sign
is
going
to
be
bigger
than
the
code
allows
Agana
of
the
kind
of
approvals
that
are
needed
like?
Does
it
have
to
go
to
the
Planning,
Commission
or
we'll
just
have
to
that
approval
so
son,
our
recommendation
so.
I
The
sign
program
does
have
to
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
action,
particularly
particularly
because
it
is
requesting
the
deviation.
So
in
those
instances
it
does
go
to
the
Planning
Commission.
So
it's
a
kind
of
a
two-part
process.
Hsb,
you
would
have
to
issue
a
certificate
of
approval.
The
program
would
also
have
to
get
receive
approval
on
the
Planning
Commission.
Okay,.
J
C
Part
of
first
off
I
think
we
need
to
think
long
and
hard
before
we
set
a
precedent
of
overriding
the
sign
ordinance
that
we
have
and
becoming
a
city
that
over
signs
everything
I
absolutely
am
behind
this
projects.
Adaptive,
reuse
and
I
want
to
see
it
successful
and
I
understand
what
a
critical
part
signage
plays
in
that
I'm
concerned
about
and
not
convinced
that
it
needs
to
be
that
height
I
wish.
C
We
had
seen
that
rendering
before
today,
I
myself
would
like
to
or
I
guess,
ask
the
question:
if
there's
a
way
for
us
to
see,
I
don't
need
to
see
a
whole
mock-up
of
the
sign
in
that
site,
but
if
I
could
at
least
see
posts
that
represent
the
height
of
that
on
both
north
and
south,
so
I
could
drive
by
and
see
what
relationship
that
scale
is
to
the
building.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
C
D
I
We
haven't
done
is
reviewed
it
with
the
traffic
engineer
to
make
sure
there
is
no
issue,
but
one
thing
to
note
is
that
the
sign
is
set
back
behind
the
sidewalk,
which
is
pretty
deep.
Sidewalk
is
an
8
foot
sidewalk,
so,
as
vehicles
would
exit,
they
would
have
some
buffer
there
to
move
in
to
kind
of
the
sidewalk
area
and
then
into
the
traffic
area.
Before
being
able
to
see
the
traffic
alone
talk
was
before
exiting
the
property.
Mr.
D
I
Would
review
it
prior
to
issuance
of
permits,
so
it
would
be
something
that
it
wouldn't.
If
you
took
action
today,
it
wouldn't
preclude
it
from
being
from
moving
forward.
It
may
have
to
be
moved
slightly
to
address
any
traffic
concerns,
so
maybe
it
would
be
pushed
further
back,
but
it
would
not
be
precluded
from
action
today.
B
Would
you
review
for
me
please
the
setback
from
the
curb
you
said.
The
sidewalk
is
about
eight
feet
and
then
this
is
another
three
feet
back
from
there
approximately
around
yes
and
the
design
of
the
sign
does
sort
of
recede
back,
so
it
doesn't
have
long.
It's
not
a.
It
does
have
an
opening
and
I'm
not
sharing
the
same
concern
about
there
being
a
traffic
hazard
or
a
blocked
sight
line.
Yeah.
I
B
B
I
L
Not
embarrassing
yourself,
we've
actually
had
this
discussion
internally
and
if
we
can
get
it
to
read
captor
Plaza
from
bottom
to
top
on
both
sides,
we
would
prefer
to
do
that.
However,
it
is
one
of
those
things
where,
when
we
really
get
into
it
with
a
sign
company,
we'll
have
to
look
at
what
is
the
most
logic
placement
of
the
type.
But
that's
not
an
embarrassing
question.
That's
something
that
we're
exploring
okay.
K
B
I
D
F
I
D
The
city
in
their
ordinance
have
any
stipulation
that
the
address
has
to
be
on
the
signage.
I
mean
what
I
find
in
the
city.
Is
that
we're
we're
so
inconsistent
when
you're,
driving
and
you're
looking
for
a
location
in
some
cases,
you're
looking
at
the
building
in
some
cases,
you're
looking
at
the
sign
and
when
you're
driving,
that
could
be
a
dangerous
situation,
so
I'm
curious
to
know
what
the
city
requires.
Do
they
require
on
a
my
time
as
well
as
a
building
or
is
a
building
extra,
and
it
has
to
be
on
the
side.
D
G
G
A
question
also
the
applicants
would
it
be
a
present,
a
marketing
challenge
if
the
sign
were
let's
say
compromise
that
ten
feet
would
be
my
first
question
and
then
at
the
norm,
at
the
typical
eight
foot,
obviously
I'm
sure
you've.
Given
that
consideration,
you
would
be
asking
for
the
twelve
foot
but
to
end
and
I
think
you
can
find
this
board.
G
G
Board
Lord
the
board,
but
also
everybody
working
together.
This
is
truly
one
of
the
best
examples.
That's
ever
happened
so
I'm
only
asking
this
question
for
your
consideration,
because
there
is
some
sensitivity,
I
know
like
which
Todd
brought
up
and
I
think
everybody's
sensitive
about
scale
and
height
and
so
forth.
F
My
answer
is
no.
The
sign
was
designed
by
the
original
architecture
city
here
with
us
today
and
if
you
think
anyone
else
is
more
or
less
qualified
to
determine
scale
or
height,
you
got
another
thing
coming
to
you.
This
height
this
scale,
this
design
was
by
Hugh
Kaptur
himself
to
complement
the
building
he
originally
designed.
So
therefore,
I,
don't
think
anything
Trump's
that
so
no
I'm
not
open
to
compromises
that
he
was
not
comfortable
with.
G
Thank
you
is
if
I
could
say
with
my
respect.
Mr.
Kaptur,
then
I
really
appreciate
your
sharing,
sharing
that,
in
fact,
that
obviously
feels
that
the
scale
isn't
and
I
would
never
be
one
too,
but
the
second
gift.
What
he
felt
was
the
best.
You
know
the
best
scale
for
this,
but
I
just
felt
I
had
to
ask
for
the
purposes.
I
know,
there's
a
little
bit
of
concern
to
see.
If
there's
a
way
we
can
work
together.
So
I
greatly
appreciate
young
play.
C
So
I
certainly
appreciate
the
design
of
the
sign.
I
think
it
is
absolutely
captures.
The
original
design
of
the
building
and
I
am
absolutely
sympathetic
to
the
owners
need
to
lease
the
spaces.
I,
just
I
don't
feel
comfortable
with
the
sign
the
way
it
is
I
think
I'm
concerned
about
the
precedent
that
it
sets
for
future
developments.
I
also
don't
really
understand
the
scale
of
the
sign
with
respect
to
its
placement
and
I.
Think.
The
only
way
for
me
personally
to
approve
it
is
to
understand
better
the
scale
and
the
placement.
C
I
also
think
that
they're,
you
know
even
turning
the
sign,
so
the
tall
part
is
away
from
the
street
and
the
short
part
is
at
the
street
I
think
there
are
other
possible
solutions
that
might
be
feasible.
That
I
haven't
seen
explored,
and
so
that's
my
reticence
with
the
way
that
it's
presented
to
us
today.
Thanks.
J
G
C
B
G
Well,
when
the
demo
request
for
the
Crocker
Bank
came
before
our
board,
my
curiosity
was
heightened
to
learn
more
about
the
designer
Howard
Lapham.
I
was
familiar,
of
course,
with
the
desert
star
project,
which
our
board
recommended
as
a
class
1
site
and
was
approved
by
the
City.
Council
and
I
was
also
familiar
with
the
racks
trim
building,
but
they
didn't
really
know
a
whole
lot
more
about
his
his
work.
G
So
I
said
on
a
out
on
a
research
quest
which
led
me
to
the
museum's
Pandy
Center
archives,
where
I
met
with
Frank
Lopez
would
give
me
some
great
assistance
and
then
I
went
over
to
the
Historical
Society
and
met
with
brené
Brown
and
then
Japan
Springs
life
with
Julie
Rogers.
For
some
additional
insight.
I
also
reached
out
to
Robert
in
Berne
I
was
totally
amazed
that,
at
what
I
found
was
obvious,
that
mr.
lapin
enjoyed
a
stellar
career
when
greater
Palm
Springs
the
area,
but
that
he
had
gained
very
little
attention.
G
G
G
G
He
was
born
in
Oklahoma
City
and
he
was
actually
a
architectural
designer
versus
an
architect.
So
he
came
to
Palm
Springs
in
54
and
it's
amazing.
It
didn't
take
him
very
long
to
settle
into
the
community
where
he
started
designing
some
homes
for
the
very
wealthy
clientele
and
for
the
mom,
the
movie,
the
movie
Utley,
and
he
was
the
one
that
really
was.
The
initial.
Evidently,
architect
did
a
lot
of
work
in
Thunderbird,
Country,
Club
and
one
of
the
things
I
Robert
did
a
a
very
lengthy
interview
with
mr.
G
Lapham
and
in
reviewing
that
it
was
interesting
to
hear
to
learn
that
the
Lots
at
Thunderbird
in
this
early
60s
were
12
grand
and
if
you
were
willing
to
be
more
near
the
street,
they
were
7
grand.
So
by
how
things
have
really
changed.
So
he
did
a
lot
of
work
up
in
Thunderbird
which
we're
going
to
see
and
was
with
us
until
he
was
age
92.
G
G
I
went
down
to
the
architectural
design
museum
and
we
started
doing
this
research.
We
started
pulling
out
a
lot
of
Architectural
Digest
and
you
know
back
in
the
60s
and
the
70s
architectural
died
was
really
a
major
publication.
We
didn't
have
all
of
the
other
shelter
magazines
that
we
know
that
we
have
today,
but
just
some
things
that
particularly
caught
my
eye
on,
went
through.
There
was
the
Hyatt
bond
in
residence.
G
So
the
one
project
that
we
are
all
very
familiar
with,
of
course,
is
the
desert
star
and
if
you
notice
that
he
did
this
in
56,
so
that
means
he
was
only
here
for
two
years,
so
pretty
amazing
that
he
would
become
the
Commission
to
start
this
kind
of
a
project
that
early
in
his
career
here
and
then
the
the
manzanita
house
in
deep
well.
G
This,
of
course,
is
known
for
its
asymmetrical,
lock
position
and
the
glass
with
the
stone
stone,
facade
the
chichi
room
is
probably
I.
Guess
would
be
the
one
of
the
most
notable
of
all
the
things
that
did
in
town.
But
when
you
look
at
the
intricacy
of
the
and
the
detailing
on
that
block
and
the
bold
blue,
color
I'm
sure
that
was
quite
particularly
back,
then
that
was
a
quite
an
event
guard
thing
to
see.
G
As
you
see
it
today
and
then
on
the
Achieva
project
that
he
did
of
the
movie
colony
a
a
couple
months
ago,
the
Andy
Council
of
the
museum
had
an
event
there,
so
many
of
us
were
able
to
go
and
experience
that
property.
It
really
exemplifies
I
think
how
massive
his
work
was.
I
mean
when
he
did
a
project.
He
wasn't
working
evidently
from
anything
I've
seen
with
12
and
15
hundred
foot
homes.
G
So
this
is
also
known
as
the
cook
house.
It's
11,000
square
feet
and
again
he
did
a
Mayan
calendar
at
the
entrance
courtyard
and
the
Keystone
shade
pool
with
the
colossal
size.
Mayan
inspired
figure
Michael
Smith.
While
he
was
out
here
designing
and
working
on
the
sunnylands
for
the
visitors
center,
he
became
captivated
with
the
each
baa
mayapan
house
and,
of
course
he
eventually
purchased.
The
home,
which
is
now,
as
we
know,
is
where
the
Obamas
have
been
staying
on.
G
G
G
G
With
with
it
with
Richard
Harrison
on
this
particular
project,
and
then
the
Crocker
Bank,
which
is
the
subject
property,
that
we
are,
that
we
are
working
on
now,
the
recent
photo
of
that
project.
You
know
it's
interesting
when
you
can
see
how
the
three
banks,
along
East
Palm,
Canyon,
how
they
really
are
they're
different
than
how
they
all
work
in
unison.
G
G
It
would
be
interesting
to
have
experienced
what
it
would
have
been
like
if
that's
what
indeed
would
have
been
built,
but
it
wouldn't
like
he
I
understand
again.
I
saw
this
an
interview.
Robert
did
that
he
carried
these
plans
with
him
all
over
talented
anybody.
He
could
catch
their
I.
Would
he
presented
these
plans
to?
G
G
Here
the
Palm
Springs
National
Bank,
which
now
is
the
the
Marty
Marty
Performing
Arts
before
that
was
Mitchell,
Gould
and
I'm,
not
what
it
was
before
that,
and
that
was
another
one.
That
I
thought
was
really
quite
quite
interesting
and
the
fact
that
he
and
Harrison
did
all
of
smaug
tree
village
and
when
you
think
about
smoke,
tree
village
being
done
back
at
that
time
in
in
the
60s
and
how
relative
it
still
is
today,
I
think
and
how
that
works.
So
wasn't
just
the
bank
that
he
did
at
the
two
banks.
G
E
Would
see
something
I
think
we
know
that
there's
so
much
to
add
thanks
for
inviting
me
to
participate,
if
it
here
speaking
of
smoked,
reran
shopping
center.
Just
the
story
of
that
above
and
beyond.
The
architecture
is
extraordinary.
He
had
done
a
condominium
tower
in
Omaha
Nebraska
for
mrs.
E
What's
got
like
what
I'm
looking
for
a
farmers
market,
a
farmers
market
feeling-
and
you
see
this
kind
of
a
woodsy
feeling
to
smoke
to
shopping
center.
But
then
it
needed
on
the
highway
anchors
and
he
did
I
believe
that
Union
Bank
building
and
he
did
the
bank
building
in
question
here
and
further
down
to
Bob's
Big
Boy,
which
was
later
Coco's,
which
is
now
empty
and
created.
E
We
have
about
two
hours
of
interview
of
him,
that
from
2005
that
were
for
desert
utopia,
film,
what
I
was
executive
producer
and
it
just
remarkable
the
volume
of
his
influence
and
I
think
it's
so
important
to
note
that
it
wasn't
just
architecture,
I
mean
I,
think
he
will
come
along
to
be
considered
an
exceptional,
if
not
master
architect,
once
the
body
of
work
is
understood,
but
his
legacy.
E
If
you
asked
him
with
really
redevelopment
and
Water
Agency
things
and
shopping
centers
and
the
business
side
of
it
all,
he
even
jokes
that
he
kind
of
came
back
after
working
for
Harry,
Williams
and
Stuart
Williams
in
the
early
years
he
kind
of
begrudgingly
came
back
to
design
because
he
was
really
more
interested
in
development,
and
so
he
pursued
in
his
early
career
here
from
beginning
to
end
is
a
remarkable
impact
on
the
community
of
both
development
and
redevelopment
and
finance,
and
in
certainly
architecture
and
design.
E
So
his
work,
though
so
much
lesser-known
than
so
many
is,
is
the
simple
volume
it's
about
the
valley,
but
particularly
in
Palm.
Springs
is
truly
extraordinary
and
exceptional.
E
You
know
I'm
reminded
of
Hugh
Kaptur
being
here
this
morning,
I'm
reminded
sort
of
a
personal,
anecdotal
reference.
You
know
when
I
first
moved
here
almost
20
years
ago.
I
always
something
may
know
here
always
involves
architectural
education
and
research
and
was
involved
with
the
people
of
bringing
out
the
name,
Stuart,
Williams
and
Donald
Wexler,
and
doing
some
education
and
creating
modernism
week
and
all
these
things
that
are
now
so
known
to
us
all.
E
But
but
kind
of
looking
at
the
big
picture,
looking
ahead,
I
researched
the
name
out
cult
and
I
researched,
name
captor,
and
we
searched
the
name
Lapham
20
years
ago
15
years
ago,
and
these
were
complete
unknowns
and
I.
Remember
across
the
street
here
the
first
moment
I
met
Hugh
Kaptur.
We
made
an
appointment
and
I
called
him
up.
I
said
hey,
my
name
is
Rob.
E
Remember
I,
do
I'm
interested
in
architecture
I,
your
name
came
up
and
piece
of
paper
somewhere
and
can
we
meet
and
talk,
he
said
sure
meet
me
there
in
sunrise
way,
whatever
Street
is
and
we'll
drive
around
I'll
show
you
my
projects
and
I
spent
about
three
hours
with
you
at
the
first
meeting
from
feet
to
speak
from
here
learning
about
him,
but
the
point
I'm
making
is,
he
was
a
complete
unknown.
E
He
was
just
another
great
architect
in
this
town
who
came
to
make
a
difference
and
about
whom
we
now
know
who
was
just
here.
Giving
public
comment
unimportant
saved
work
of
his
and
how
would
Lapham
is
like
that
today?
How
would
Lapham
is
not
a
no-name,
so
many,
but
the
volume
of
his
work
again,
the
impact
economically
and
historically
and
architectural
II
and
quality
and
scale
in
this
community
is
truly
truly
extraordinary,
and
then
you
factor
in
the
best
friends
with
Bing,
Crosby
and
work
house.
E
He
did
the
Debbie
Reynolds
bought
and,
as
he
says
in
the
in
the
interview
that
guy
what's
his
name,
Disney
Walt
Disney
the
people
with
whom
he
worked
in
in
terms
of
the
history
it
so
speaks.
Howard,
lap,
hems
work
so
speaks
to
the
Mandate
of
the
hsdb
and
the
importance
of
our
history
here.
I
think
that's
enough
for
now.
Okay,
thank.
G
You
so
much
I
just
want
to
close
by
thanking
the
staff
for
allowing
us
to
do
this,
as
well
as
preparing
all
the
documentation
of
of
the
PowerPoint
as
well,
and
for
encouragement
of
mr.
John's
to
do
this
as
well
and
I
think
that
now
we
all
have
a
little
bit
better.
Understanding
of
his
work
has
been
a
great
pleasure
to
do
this
project.
Dick.
B
B
B
D
B
E
What
the
just
to
augment
that
there's
endless
material,
some
of
its
anecdotal
and
from
people
who
knew
him,
and
there
are
some
materials
and
certainly
at
the
sources
that
protect
mention.
But
the
point
really
is
that
the
used
word
now
so
many
times.
The
volume
of
this
man's
work
is
extraordinary
and
the
impact
on
our
history
and
our
architecture
again,
our
quality
of
life
and
the
economic
development
redevelopment
of
Palm
Springs
is
tremendous
and
so
to
be
so.
E
I
hope
that
a
push
HSP
B
and
staff
and
people
who
learn
about
Howard
and
his
work
recognize
and
appreciate
that
in
their
evaluations-
and
you
know
this
bank
building
that
is
having
a
new
proposal
is,
you
know,
may
be
threatened,
but
but
I
like
to
kind
of
turn
that
word
a
threat
into
opportunity,
because
the
that
building
I
mean
I,
don't
know
anyone
except
some
vegan
and
vegetarian
friends
who
wouldn't
mind
a
in-and-out
burger
in
town.
E
Now,
that
may
be
the
hot-button
political
thing
to
say,
but
you
know
what
I
mean
in
a
burger
in
that
building
I
think
would
probably
be
okay
and
retain
everything
that
exists
at
that
corner.
Historically
and
architectural
II
and
I
don't
meet
me
but
I
know
a
lot
of
people
who
had
drive
through
there
and
pick
up
the
burger.
B
Robert,
thank
you
very
much,
dick
anything
further
board,
questions
of,
or
comments
for,
dick,
alright,
dick.
Thank
you
very
much,
of
course.
Already
the
final
item
on
our
agenda.
Excuse
me
a
next
item
on
our
agenda
3c.
This
is
the
discussion
of
the
inclusion
of
historic
artifacts
in
the
design
of
the
new
downtown
Park
I
did
ask
Flynn
to
put
this
on
our
agenda
today
for
discussion.
B
There
are
a
number
of
elements,
as
we
know
that
the
gates,
the
original
gates
to
the
Desert
Inn
I'm
sorry
I
meant
to
bring
some
photographs
of
those
gates
today,
they're
they're,
quite
large,
they're,
very
impressive,
and
they
do
exist.
Tracy
mentioned
some
other
items
that
are
still
extant
somewhere.
B
J
Your
comments,
what
I
would
recommend
that
the
board
do
is
that
you
provide
a
letter
to
our
City.
Council
will
also
provide
a
letter.
The
consultant
who
is
working
on
the
park
with
your
recommendations,
I've
drafted
a
letter
for
you
I,
would
just
ask
that
mr.
chair.
Perhaps
if
you
could
mark
that
up
with
your
comments
and
once
you're
done
with
that,
we'll
go
ahead
and
forward
that
on
to
the
City
Council
I'd.
B
Like
that
very
much
but
I'd,
ask
I'd
also
ask
the
board's
input
on
what
we
might
also
ask
for
in
the
in
the
request
of
the
city.
F
C
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
up.
I
couldn't
agree
more
I'm,
sorry,
Tracy,
left,
I
think,
but
I
would
love
to
certainly
see
all
of
these
items
put
in
there.
Someplace
I
don't
know
if
the
park,
unfortunately,
is
the
only
option
we
have
at
this
point.
The
gateposts
would
be
great
if
they
were
at
some
entrance
point
to
the
project
you
know
and
so
like
just
sticking
to
gate
posts
and
a
random
space
inside
the
park
seems
like
a
lost
opportunity
to
me.
C
If
there's
some
way
to
put
them
like
at
the
corner
of
a
driveway
and
use
them
somewhere,
that
is
appropriate
to
how
they
were
originally
used
in
the
project
I
think
like
on,
because
those
are
the
ones
that
were
on
Palm
Canyon
right
yeah,
so
it
might
not
be
possible
to
put
them
back
on
Palm
Canyon.
That
would
be
ideal.
C
Yes,
they
will
be
so
that
could
go
back
almost
where
it
was
so
that
would
I
think
that
should
go
back
to
as
close
to
where
it
was
and
then
I
don't
know
what
the
fountain
was.
That
Tracy
was
referring
to.
That
could
perhaps
go
almost
anyplace
inside
the
park,
but
I
can
be
only
observation.
I
have,
if
there's
some
way
to
place
those
gate
posts
at
some
sort
of
an
entrance
someplace
that
would
be
kind
of
cool
and
I'm.
All
for
the
letter
to
the
council.
Well,.
B
It
is
hearing
we
all
have
a
copy
other
too.
So
I
would
ask
the
board,
perhaps
today,
to
read
the
letter.
Add
your
ideas
to
it
and
then
get
me
that
and
then
we'll
give
it
back
to
Flynn
and
have
Flynn
comprise
an
official.
An
official
letter.
I
think
that
we
are
all
very
pleased
or
should
be
pleased
that
mark
Rios,
who
has
some
success
in
in
city
parks
under
his
belt,
to
create
and
design
or
to
include
these
elements
during
the
City
Council
meeting
of
a
month
or
so
ago.
B
I
think
it
was
even
held
here
when
mark
Rios
did
his
presentation
to
the
council.
It
was
sort
of
in
a
town
hall
forum.
I
had
had
a
conversation
with
him
about
it,
and
you
know
it's
it's
not
his
decision.
The
city
needs
to
tell
him
to
do
this,
and
then
he
will
include
it
so
I'm
glad
that
we're
going
to
copy
mr.
Rios
on
this,
but
the
city
needs
to
instruct
mr.
Rios
and
his
firm
to
install
these
elements.
B
Just
today,
I
did
not
know
about
this
portion
of
the
fountain.
That
apparently
exists
as
well,
but
as
much
as
Tracy
doesn't
want
to
be
the
new
president
of
the
Historical
Society
she's,
the
right
person
in
the
right
place,
because
who
else
knows
that
that
even
existed
or
that
that
it
might
still
exist?
So
I'll
welcome
some
more
comments
from
the
board.
Mr.
D
Chair,
please
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
idea
and
I
think
it's
very,
very
important
to
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
However,
that
being
said,
I
don't
know,
I
have
no
clue
of
what
else
is
out
there
hidden
in
a
basement
or
a
barn
that
could
help
us.
Is
there
any
way
we
can
do
an
outreach
via
computer?
You
know
email
to
residents
or
something
asking
them
if
they
have
something
or
they
know
of
something
I
mean
like
you
said.
If
Tracy
hadn't
come
in
here
and
talked
about.
B
Know
it's
a
it's
a
good
question.
I
mean
the
the
we
are
very
fortunate
to
have
the
Historical
Society
that
we
do
hold
that
thought,
because
the
directors
and
the
presidents
of
the
Historical
Society
have
been
a
continuous
line
of
citizens,
and
it
is
truly
a
great
repository
of
information
when
it
is
it's.
B
It's
it's
a
too
involved
of
a
story,
but
when
the
when
the,
when
the
star
for
Nellie
Kaufman
was
discovered,
abandoned
in
the
basement
of
the
desert
fashion,
Plaza
along
with
Sonny
Bono's
star-
and
that
was
in
the
newspaper
a
couple
of
years
ago,
jerry
Vogelsang
knew
that
the
the
spot
that
it
had
been
removed
from
which
was
sort
of
in
front
of
the
old
restaurant.
There
Louise's.
B
Right
there,
where
the
old
Bank
of
America
building
was
now
that
we've
got
torn
down,
there
were
two
restaurants.
There
there
was
a
Pizza
Kitchen
shove
in
the
one
next
door
to
it.
It
was
there
in
the
street.
Well
only
Jerry
knew
that
that
was
not
the
original
location
of
it.
It
had
been
further
up
the
street,
so
there
is
a
lot
of
that,
and
maybe
some
of
it
is
anecdotal
Flint.
Is
there
a
way
to
do
any
kind
of
an
outreach.
J
They
would
really
be
the
first
ones
that
I
would
go
to
in
terms
of
any
remaining
artifacts
from
the
property
and
then,
secondly,
the
Historical
Society
would
be
our
second
point.
I,
don't
know
necessarily
that
there's
going
to
be
things
out,
folding
in
the
community
that
the
family
would
not
be
aware
of,
but
they
should
be.
The
first
point
of
contact
I
think
well.
B
And
I
think
on
that
note,
the
Historical,
Society
I
think
many
of
us
know:
Kitty
Kiley,
Kitty
Kylie
has
addressed
the
board
over
the
last
several
years,
so
she's,
a
Kylie
and
I
think
that
the
Historical
Society
and
the
Kylie's
have
a
relationship
and
as
Tracy
mentioned
here
today,
she
has
had
a
conversation
with
Owen
and
he
will
loan
the
gates
to
the
city
in
perpetuity
if
they're
displayed
properly
so
I
think
the
letter
is
a
good
place
to
start
our
letter
to
the
council.
So
I
welcome
board
member
comments
ad.
B
B
G
Also
in
thinking
of
the
outreach,
which
is
really
what
we
need
to
do,
a
couple
ideas
on
that
might
be,
you
know
we
had
an
article
in
the
Desert
Sun
requesting
this,
because
we
might
reach
residents
that
normally
we
don't
think
of
in
our
preservation
groups,
help
that
we
are
looking
for
such
that
might
be
one
thing
and
also
going
to
each
of
the
organizations
and
asking
them
to
get
the
word
out
to
the
newsletter.
I
can
certainly
see.
G
Will
Klein
dice
might
also
have
some
ideas
along
that
line
and
as
far
as
also
the
park
is
concerned,
you
know,
is
it
sunnylands
of
the
other
day,
and
it
reminded
me
again:
they
have
all
those
wonderful
kiosk
that
happen.
You
know
amazing
information
on
them
about
the
history
of
sunnylands,
but
so
if
we
were
to
be
able
to
have
the
kiosk
for
out-of-town
visitors
to
really
be
able
to
see
a
historical
reference
of
of
Palm
Springs
might
be,
and
I
know
that
may
have
some
logistic
things
to
it
and
concerned
about.
G
B
I
think
the
the
idea
of
a
kiosk
would
be
excellent
today
with
technology.
If
there
were
an
ad,
if,
if
somebody
were
approaching
the
park
and
saw
the
gates
and
saw
the
marker
and
saw
the
star
and
were
able
to
interactively
see
what
the
Desert
Inn
was
like,
and
so
it's
it's
another
very,
very
good
idea
on.
J
I
J
Of
the
things
that
mr.
Newell
is
working
on
is
ng
is
doing
essentially
a
tour
of
all
of
the
class
one
designated
sites.
This
would
be
a
link
from
the
city's
web
page
where
you
could
go
into
the
map
and
it
would
take
you
from
one
site
to
the
other,
with
background
information
and
photos
on
the
site
itself.
So
that's
a
project,
that's
ongoing
and
when
we
get
to
a
point
where
it's
a
little
bit
more
ready
for
public
consumption,
we'll
bring
that
before
you.
J
B
F
Have
one
please
I
would
like
to
draw
your
attention.
This
is
a
new
book
that
just
came
out
at
one
of
the
first
copies.
It's
called
new
house
old
house.
These
projects
are
absolutely
inspirational
because
it's
taking
old
historic
properties
with
new
additions,
but
with
different
styles
attached
and
the
projects
are
beautiful.
G
G
F
Like
if
the
HS
PB
is
going
to
do
a
project
that
reaches
out
to
the
realtor's,
you
know
that
we
were
talking
about
for
maybe
in
the
fall
right.
If
this
book
or
some
of
these
projects
could
actually
be
shown
even
had
a
presentation
like
that,
I
think
it
would
change
it's
inspirational.
It
is
I
even
never
seen
anything
like
I
haven't
either
Dayman.
G
B
B
H
Chair
I
noticed
that
I
got
a
notice
that
on
June
20th
June
21st,
the
City
Council
will
consider
the
nomination
for
the
Racquet
Club.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
can
attend
that.
Well,
I'm
a
basically
neighbor
owner
adjacent
to
it,
so
they
notified
the
surrounding
area
the
radius.
So
it's
coming
up
on
June
21st,
I'm.
C
Please
so
a
couple
of
quick
things:
segue
from
the
book
in
the
content,
I
attended
the
California
Preservation
Foundation
conference.
Last
May
we
had
our
financial
incentives
for
realtors
workshop
overwhelming
success.
We
had
over
70
people
in
attendance.
It
was
one
of
the
best
attended
sessions
at
the
conference.
They
were
very
happy.
It
was
great.
C
C
B
G
J
F
Know
if
it's
not
one
of
the
main
winding
things
on
the
program,
but,
like
you
know,
the
the
drone
thing
is,
it
was
right.
Last
year
was
fantastic
as
it
as
an
introduction,
and
that
could
even
be
done.
You
know
with
the
real
estate
event
as
well.
If
there's
not
time
on
the
agenda,
I
don't
know
these
are
just
thoughts.
Don't.
D
C
And
and
the
folks
at
modernism
week
have
expressed
a
willingness
for
our
being
able
to
tag
on
to
one
of
their
two
events,
so
we
certainly
could
have
it
in
conjunction
with
either
the
fall
or
the
you
know,
the
the
February
event.
So
that's
something,
and
that
gives
us
whatever
for
six
months
to
figure
it
out.
So
we
would
do
that.
C
D
D
C
They
they
did
charge
$30
of
a
person
which
I
personally
was
concerned
about,
but
it
didn't
stop
70
people
plus
from
attending.
So
this
the
30
times
70,
would
give
us
funding,
for
that
was
mostly.
We
will
have
higher
expenses
here,
because
all
the
people
who
participated
there
were
already
there.
There
are
some
local
people,
we
could
either
you
know
P
SPF
for
the
museum
or
somebody
we
could
find
to
staff
the
panel.
C
G
C
Quick
addition,
so
I
went
through
to
166
West
to
the
Lola
that
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
everybody's
radar.
It's
a
1940's,
John
Porter
Clark,
eclectic
Spanish
that
he
started
actually
in
1938
still
owned
by
the
original
family,
but
the
Boyd
family
who
built
it.
Who
was
one
of
the
original
mayors
of
Palm
Springs?
C
It
is
in
escrow,
I,
am
extremely
concerned
about
it.
I
don't
really
know
what
we
can
do
about
it
at
this
point,
but
it
is
a
sixteen
hundred
square
foot
house
on
a
16,000
square
foot
lot
in
Las
Palmas,
it's
pretty
much
untouched.
There
are
a
couple
of
actually
really
two
minor
additions
that
could
literally
one
of
them
being
they
covered
up
the
original
garage
door.
The
original
garage
door
is
still
there,
they
just
covered
up
the
original
garage
door
and
then
the
other
one.
C
Is
they
added
this
little
closet
thing,
but
the
house
sits
almost
exactly
as
it
was
in
nineteen
foot
before
40
and
my
concern
is
you
know
it's
it's
on
a
16,000
square
foot
lot
in
the
nicest
part
of
town
and
the
highest
and
best
use
of
this
is
to
demo.
This
and
I
understand
that
if
it
were
demoed,
it
would
come
before
us
and
we
could
have
some
exchange
of
ideas
at
that
point.
C
C
C
B
So
I'd
start
there,
let's
go!
No,
perhaps
that
we
discussed
it
at
the
board
today
that
if
he
needs
to
educate
the
buyer,
we're
happy
to
help
assist
in
educating
the
buyer,
but
you're
right.
You
know
it's
leaving
that
one
wall
or
leaving
that
fireplace
that
qualifies
it
as
a
remodel
and
not
as
a
demo
yeah.
Well,
thank
you
for
bringing
it
to
our
attention,
but
I
talked
to
Scott.
C
And
earrings
family
there's
drawings
and
photos,
there
was
a
wealth
of
data
in
the
house.
It
was
amazing
that
all
the
original
drawings
are
there.
Photos
of
construction
are
all
there,
I
mean
so
whoever
is
buying
it
on
a
condo
who's
in
escrow,
but
whoever
is
buying.
It
has
a
full
wealth
of
knowledge
and
understanding
of
what
the
significance
is
in
the
house.
What.
B
It's
where
we
go
by
all
right,
skip
to
the
Bach
different
yeah,
any
other
board
comments.
I
had
a
question:
how
are
remodel
going
over
to
City
Council?
Have
you
been
a
part
of
it
as
seen
it
or.
K
J
There
every
day,
but
I
haven't
seen
it
I
know
that
sounds
odd.
They
are
working
on
the
remodel
again,
we
hope
to
have
it
finished
in
September
as
you're
aware
projects
generally
take
a
little
bit
longer
than
you
anticipate
and,
speaking
of
that
for
our
schedule,
we
are
going
to
be
back
here
at
the
convention
center
for
our
July
meeting
in
August.
B
G
On
that
note
would
be
possible
for
any
staff
to
have
conversation
with
the
I
understand.
The
CEO
of
the
in
and
out
burger
is
evidently
she's
very
Pro.
In
doing
you
know,
good
things.
If
you
will
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there
with
it,
would
be
wise
to
have
a
discussion
of
some
time
with
her
so
rep
salute
again.
Can
we
approach
it
as
more
of
a
team
instead
of
being
adversaries
on
this
yeah.
J
J
Report
have
a
couple
of
things
for
you.
First
on
the
theater
subcommittee,
we
don't
have
a
date
yet
for
our
next
meeting,
I
am
working
with
councilman
Roberts.
If
you'll
remember
from
our
last
subcommittee
meeting,
he
needed
to
touch
base
with
his
counterpart,
councilman
Mills,
and
so
as
soon
as
I
have
a
meeting
date
for
the
theater
subcommittee.
I'll
get
in
touch
with
you
all
and
give
that
information
to
you.
Secondly,
I
wanted
to
make
you
aware
you
may
have
seen
on
a
recent
city
council
agenda
that
the
airport
expansion
is
underway.
J
J
The
proposed
renovation
is
to
the
lobby,
ticketing
winning
excuse
me
and
they
are
proposing
not
to
touch
the
facade
at
all.
It
will
be
interior
improvements
and
then,
as
you'll
see
from
the
second
drawing
that
I
have
there
package.
They
will
be
expanding
off
of
the
back
side
or
the
east
side
of
the
ticketing
wing
to
include
baggage
facilities,
but
again
they
are
not
going
to
be
doing
anything
to
the
front
facade
of
the
building.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
that,
because
they
aren't
touching
the
front
facade
of
the
building.
B
J
That
conversation
with
him
as
well
and
it
sounded
like
they
were
going
to
attempt
that
originally
but
based
on
the
budget
that
they
have
to
work
with.
Unfortunately,
that's
not
going
to
be
incorporated
as
part
of
this
phase.
This
is
only
the
first
phase
of
several
improvements.
So
as
we
look
at
other
phases,
I'll
continue
to
have
those
discussions
with
him
in
terms
of
how
we
might
take
those
back
to
their
original
condition.