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A
Welcome
everybody:
it
is
december
15th,
5
33,
and
this
is
the
sustainability
commission
regular
meeting.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
roy
clark.
The
chair.
B
Welcome
the
I'd
like
to
call
to
call
to
order
the
december
15
2020
meeting
of
the
palm
springs
sustainability.
Commission
dan.
Would
you
please
take
the
roll
call
for
the
last
time
sure.
C
D
C
A
Lonnie
said
that
she
was
trying
to
log
in
so
I
sent
her
the
link,
so
she
should
be
joining
us
and
I
did
not
oh
there.
She
is-
and
I
did
not
hear
from
jennifer
okay.
B
B
B
A
So
as
people
mentioned,
this
is
dan's
last
meeting,
and
so
we
wanted
to
take
a
minute
to
acknowledge
him,
and
so
the
first
thing
I
will
mention
is
dan:
you
can
open
your
bag
now,
so
in
that
bag
he
so
in
that
bag.
You
have
a
couple
of
things
one
most
importantly,
you
have
cupcakes
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
bag,
so
we
can
raise
it
in
toast
momentarily.
A
You
have
in
that
bag.
Yes,
there
you
go.
Thank
you,
and
so
the
other
thing
you
have
that
bag
is
a
certificate
inside
that
folder.
E
C
A
You
very
much
that
certificate
says
city
of
palm
springs.
California,
and
this
palm
springs.
Sustainability
commission
recognized
daniel
degarmo
for
his
outstanding
service
to
the
city
of
palm
springs
during
his
tenure
with
the
office
of
sustainability.
His
hard
work
and
dedication
over
the
past
five
years
has
helped
the
sustainability
program.
A
Navigate
challenging
times
has
contributed
to
the
overall
sustainability
of
our
community
signed
by
roy,
and
I
so
we
did
want
to
just
acknowledge
dan
for
all
of
his
hard
work
in
keeping
the
sustainability
commission
going
over
the
years
and
supporting
the
group
over
the
past
several
years,
and
certainly
I
appreciate
his
help
in
helping
me
transition
into
this
role
so
appreciate
him,
and
I
invite
others
to
to
raise
a
cupcake,
dan's,
honor
and
appreciate
all
of
his
service
and
support
for
this
group.
C
It's
been
a
it's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
all
of
you
these
past
five
years.
You
know
this
past
year
has
been
kind
of
weird,
but
I
still
think
we
got
a
lot
accomplished.
C
C
That's
about
it
yeah
now,
but
other
than
that,
nothing
really
so
yeah
until
until
after
the
vaccine.
I
guess
I
know
that
that
you're
dedicated
enough.
C
C
That's
pretty
much
it
yes,
dan
who's.
Taking
your
place
taking
your
place,
our
job
has
been
posted.
Applicants
are
waiting
to
be
identified.
I
guess.
A
Yep,
I
in
fact
I
just
literally
received
word
from
the
personnel
office
of
candidates
to
interview,
so
I'm
going
to
be
reviewing
that
shortly.
So.
H
A
No,
it
does
not
go
to
city
council
it.
I
will
have
a
little
panel.
Roy
has
agreed
to
help
out
and
then
a
couple
other
folks
on
staff.
A
So
we'll
do
a
couple
of
panel
interviews,
I
think
and
then
we'll
just
make
a
selection
so
yep
and
then
they
have
to
go
through
our
review
and
all
that
kind
of
good
stuff,
but
but
it
doesn't
have
to
go
up
to
council.
So
that's
nice.
H
Much
guarantee
making
some
more
of
these
delicious
chocolates.
A
We'll
have
to
figure
out
another
way
to
another
celebration
to
thing
to
celebrate,
so
maybe
when
we
hire
the
the
new
person.
Thank.
C
She's
had
some
family
stuff
going
on,
so
she
may
not
join
us.
Okay,.
A
All
right,
so
only
other
couple
of
things
I
wanted
to
mention.
We
did
have
the
council
meeting
last
week
and
they
did
approve
the
streamlined,
eb
charger
permitting
agenda
item
which
we've
been
bringing
for
so
long
to
get
on
there
and
then
the
only
question
that
they
asked
was:
where
are
the
ev
chargers
so
we're
getting
to
that.
A
So
I
told
them
january,
and
then
we
did
the
little
sustainability,
scholarship
presentation
and
we'll
get
the
word
out
about
that
here,
and
so
I
think,
we're
all
good
to
go
on
that
front,
we're
just
creating
the
letters
and
the
notices
and
all
that
for
for
that
program.
So
the
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
to
you
and
share
with
you
is,
if
you
haven't
seen
it
already,
the
city
did
update
their
website,
and
so
I
wanted
to
show
that
to
you.
A
So
it
has
a
little
bit
of
a
different
look.
Some
different
things
across
the
top.
The
buttons
that
are
here
now
are
the
apparently
the
most
clicked
items
on
the
website.
So
those
are
the
things
that
pop
up
will
pop
up
regularly.
Here
you
get
to
our
sustainability
page
by
going
to
government
inability
and
recycling
and
as
you'll
see,
it
looks
pretty
different.
A
What
we
did
was
we
took
advantage
of
a
new
function
on
the
website,
which
is
an
accordion
function,
and
so
we
have
our
typical
scrolling
banner
at
the
top.
But
then
we've
got
what
I
did
was
I
tried
to
include
a
lot
of
the
main
links
that
people
go
to
and
the
let's
see
and
the
rebates
and
the
rebates,
the
new
programs
that
we've
got
right
now.
A
So
I
tried
to
make
sure
that
those
were
prominent
on
the
home
page
and
then
other
things
that
were
on
here
before
are
collapsed.
So
if
people
want
to
look
at
cobit
19
related
information,
they
can
do
that.
Click
on
that
recent
program
update.
So
here's
where
we'll
have
a
little
news,
information
that
kind
of
stuff
and
then
neighborhood
environmental
challenge
which
it's
mostly
on
here,
because
it's
a
little
hard
to
get
to
otherwise,
and
then
I
put
added
a
thing
on
here
about
reporting
violations
and
sharing
concerns.
A
A
There
are
a
couple
formatting
issues
still
but
we're
working
on
those,
but
especially
if
you
click
on
links
and
they're
broken.
Let
us
know
when
they
did
the
transfer.
It
wasn't
super
clean,
so
some
of
the
links
may
have
become
broken
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
we've
gone
through
it
a
couple
of
times.
But
again,
if
you
take
a
look
at
it
just
stroll
through
it
and
see,
if
you
see
anything,
that's
fishy
or
doesn't
work.
Just
send
me
a
note,
and
I
can
take
care
of
that.
C
H
Muted
simple,
easy
thing:
I
noticed
that
that
our
our
starting
time
of
our
meeting
says
six
o'clock.
That's
it!
Okay!
Oh.
A
H
A
Yeah
that
that
accordion
function
really
helps
out,
I
think
in
terms
of
organizing
information
and
really
getting
letting
people
get
to
what
they
want
to
get
to
a
little
easier.
So
that's
great
all
right
and
I
think
is
there
one
other
thing.
Let
me
see
if
there's
another
thing
I
wanted
to
ask
you
about.
I
think
that's
it
for
that
those
items,
any
questions
that
you
have
on
any
of
those
things,
council,
meeting
topics
or
the
website
we'll
get
to
the
other
stuff
in
old
business.
I
think.
E
Patrick
I'll
start
working
on
now
that
the
1236
ordinance
has
been
passed
I'll
start
working
on
a
draft
of
the
update
of
the
materials
on
the
website
because
they
they
they
do,
need
a
bit
of
clarification.
So
I'll
work
on
that
with
the
objective
of
hopefully,
when
council
meets
again
in
january
and
approved
in
second
reading,
we
can
start
working
on
that.
Okay
sounds
good.
E
A
All
right
and
back
to
you,
okay,.
B
B
C
Roy
I'm
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
taking
people
in
a
particular
order.
I
would
like
to
make
a
comment,
though.
Please
go
ahead,
grant
yeah
as
usual.
There's
a
robust
agenda
with
a
lot
of
interesting
items,
I'm
going
to
have
to
bow
out
of
the
meeting
after
listening
to
a
few
for
a
work
related
training
exercise.
But
I
knew
this
was
going
to
be
dan's
last
meeting
and
I
just.
C
B
Okay,
we
have
no
presentations
so
we'll
next
move
to
acceptance
of
the
meeting
minutes
from
the
november
17th
meeting.
They
were
emailed
and
posted
last
thursday
december
10th
for
city
policy.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
the
meeting
minutes.
C
B
C
B
A
Thank
you
so
a
couple
of
things
to
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
in
terms
of
leaflet
enforcement.
A
I
did
do
a
little
presentation
at
the
1ps
meeting
or
earlier
this
month,
and
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
feedback
that
we
got
from
that
a
couple
people
said:
yes
raised
the
fines,
a
couple
people
were
concerned
about
the
low
compliance
rate
and
felt
like
more
education
is
needed,
and
so
basically,
what
we're
doing
and
then
roy
and
mike
viegas
talked
at
the
1ps
code
enforcement
public
works
subcommittee
the
next
day
about
it
a
little
bit.
So
we
are
starting
an
effort
to
reach
out
to
gardeners
again.
A
There
is
some
new
money
available
to
them
through
that
sustainability
scholarship
program.
So
we
have
that
carrot
going
forward
that
we
can
use
to
help
them
comply
and
and
the
state
funding
is
still
available
for
them
to
switch
over
to
electric
leak
blowers
if
they
exchange
their
gas
one
so
so
anyway.
So
hopefully
that
additional
outreach
will
work
and
cause
more
people
to
comply.
A
But
I
do
not
think
that
we
have
a
communication
issue.
I
think
that
we
have
a
compliance
issue
and
so
we're
going
to
focus
on
getting
the
word
out
about
those
new
incentives
and
see
what
happens
and
then
we'll
follow
it
up
with
some
additional
detail
on
perhaps
additional
enforcement
efforts.
If
that
does
not
pan
out
one
of
the
things
I
am
asking
you
guys,
is
anybody
that's
interested?
A
What
I
would
like
to
do
is
a
visual
audit
and
basically
that
just
involves
trolling
around
a
neighborhood
over
a
certain
week
and
just
logging,
the
number
of
gas
blowers
you
see
in
the
number
of
electric
blowers.
A
You
see
I've
been
doing
this
informally
the
past
couple
of
weeks,
mostly
in
our
neighborhood,
and
just
when
I
drive
around
and
again
that's
where
I
sort
of
got
the
50
compliance
rate
number
is
that,
generally
speaking,
I
was
finding
about
50,
50
or
so
percent
of
people
using
gas
versus
50
using
electric,
and
so
I
wanted
to
do
something
a
little
bit
more
formal.
A
There's
really
no
way
to
know
what
the
compliance
rate
is,
because
people
switch
out
at
a
moment's
notice
and
they'll
go
back
and
forth
depending
on
whether
or
not
their
their
electric
gets
out
of
juice.
So
it's
it
really
is
hard
a
hard
thing
to
assess.
But
what
I
thought
is
that,
at
least
if
we
made
an
effort
to
kind
of
canvas,
some
neighborhoods
and
try
to
gather
some
data,
that
would
at
least
be
some
data
point.
A
We
could
point
to
to
give
us
a
general
sense
of
how
things
are
are
going.
So
I
would
like
to
get
anybody
that's
interested
in
doing
that
again.
It
would
be
kind
of
at
your
leisure.
You
could
drive
around
you
could
bike
around?
You
could
walk
around
your
neighborhood
and
based
on
how
many
people
would
be
interested
in
doing
this,
we'll
kind
of
divide
up
the
city,
if
that's
okay,
so
anybody
interested
in
helping
to
do
that.
H
A
Okay,
so
we'll
I'll
get
back
to
you
guys
with
a
little
assignment
and
again
just
kind
of
over
the
course
of
a
week,
do
a
little
patrolling
and
make
some
notations
lonnie.
You
had
a
question.
A
It's
mostly
by
sound
yeah,
but
I
I
notice
it
the
and,
and
you
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
recently
is.
There
is
a
lot
of
trimming
going
on
and
so
people
some
people
are
confusing
the
trimmers
with
the
gas
leaf
blowers,
but
generally
the
trimmers.
There
is
a
sawing
sound,
that's
associated
with
it.
That's
not
associated
with
a
leak
blower.
So
so
it
can
be
a
little
bit
confusing
just
going
on
sound.
A
D
The
electric
ones
tend
to
look
a
little
smaller
and
it
seems
that
most
of
the
gas
ones
are
sort
of
opaque,
but
you
can
so.
I
guess
you
can
see
where
the
fuel
level
is
in
them,
and
that
is
if
you're
coming
up
behind
them
or
something
is
kind
of
the
easiest
easy
way.
The
sound
is
definitely
very
different
right.
A
Right,
the
most
the
biggest
thing
that
I've
noticed
is
that,
like,
I
would
say,
30
or
40
percent
of
the
time
they
don't
even
need
to
be
doing
it
like
it's.
It's
really
is
amazing.
There's
a
there
is
a
use
issue
with
them
as
well.
I
mean
people
just
blow
stuff
like
like,
I
don't
even
know
where
it's
going
or
what
it's
doing
but
they're
just
blowing
so
anyway.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
improvement
that
could
be
made
on
the
user
at
suit
too.
A
A
I
did
have
a
good
conversation
with
chris
from
psds
and
we're
going
to
be
meeting
probably
weekly
now
to
to
start
our
sb
1383
review
and
to
try
to
get
our
franchise
agreement
up
to
date
with
1383
and
to
start
to
move
in
that
direction.
A
So
so
that
is
all
in
the
works
and
then
the
other
thing
that
is
mentioned
in
the
the
report
is
that-
and
we
had
some
more
conversation
about
it
today
actually
with
cvag-
is
that
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
more
of
a
regional
approach
to
communication
about
1383,
because
everybody
in
the
valley
has
to
comply
with
it
and
pretty
much.
The
requirements
are
all
the
same.
So
we
really
want
to
get
the
word
out
broadly
about
who
needs
to
comply
and
how
and
then
the
other
couple
of
things.
A
I
did
talk
to
our
ght
consultant
yesterday
and
it
does
look
like
that.
We
are
not
going
to
get
any
information
from
them
until
late
january
february,
time
frame
because
of
the
delay
in
getting
the
vehicle
miles,
traveled
information
so
so
anyway,
so
that
we're
gonna
push
that
off
until
probably
a
january
or
february
time
frame.
A
And
then
the
last
thing
is
our
demo
garden
and
turf
conversion
at
the
airport,
which
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you
about
a
little
bit
more
so
a
couple
of
months
ago,
I
think
we
had
the
presentation
on
the
concept
and,
based
on
that
concept,
we
convened
our
little
work
group
to
provide
some
more
input
on
plant
types
to
our
consultant
and
so
based
on
the
input
that
we
provided.
A
The
consultant
came
up
with
a
plant
list
and
a
plant
planting
plan,
and
so
what
you
see
here
on
the
screen
is
the
planting
plan
that
is
based
on
the
plant
list
that
we
came
up
with,
so
they
took
it
and
they
took
into
consideration
a
couple
of
things:
one
is
plant
height
and
so
that
taller
plants
are
along
the
sides
of
the
beds.
A
So
so,
as
you're
looking
from
the
airport
over
here
out
to
the
fountain,
it'll
sort
of
have
a
curved
effect
to
it,
so
the
lower
plants
will
be
in
the
middle
and
then
they'll
get
bigger
as
you
go
out.
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
wanted
to
kind
of
preserve.
Is
that
view
to
the
fountain
so
that
this
does
that?
A
A
We
had
originally
envisioned
a
straight
path
of
some
sort
of
turf
alternative
in
our
discussions
about
turf
alternatives
that
didn't
really
pan
out
any
none
of
the
things
that
we
were
looking
at
really
were
very
effective
in
terms
of
planting
them
in
full
sun
in
our
environment.
So
we
didn't
have
a
very
good
alternative
for
that.
A
So
what
they
did
was
we
actually
kind
of
envisioned
almost
like
a
stream
bed
that
runs
through
the
middle
of
the
the
the
garden
and
it
would
be
made
up
of
very
low
growing
kind
of
succulent
plants,
and
then
we
would
have
a
little
bit
of
rock
at
the
edges
and
then
it
will
go
into
the
the
rest
of
the
garden.
So
so
so
two
things
are
different
from
the
concept.
One
is
that
the
path
is
now
y
d
instead
of
straight.
A
F
A
Right
and
I
do
think
actually
there
could
be
a
fair
amount
of
use
for
two
things.
One
is
visitors
that
come.
If
we
make
it
attractive
enough,
you
know
it
could
become
like
a
little
place
to
get
your
picture
taken
and
and
when
you,
after
you
land
second
thing
is
there,
is
people
will
do
wait
for
for
cars
and
things
over
here
on
this
side
towards
the
towards
the
airport
side?
A
So
I
imagine
that
that
some
of
them
will
kind
of
stroll
through
this
area
a
little
bit
and
then
and
then
I
do
would
envision.
I
think
dwa
wants
to
promote
this
a
lot,
and
so
I
would
envision
groups
coming
over
parking
at
this
city
hall
and
just
walking
over,
because
I've
been
doing
that
quite
a
bit
in
just
kind
of
getting
the
lay
of
the
land
and
it
actually.
C
F
A
You
know
we
could
talk
to
them
about
that.
We
had
talked
initially
in
our
little
group
about
there
being
some
sort
of
public
art
or
something
in
here.
That
would
be
an
attractor
and
the
previous
airport
administrator
wasn't
too
excited
about
that.
A
But
we
may
have
an
opportunity
to
do
something
more
like
that
here
like
right
now,
this
right,
most
little
plot
is
where
we
had
planned
for
signage.
A
C
C
Exactly
absolutely
correct:
if
we
did
something
like
that.
Yes,
I
love
you
in
front
of
the
kimton
hotel.
That
fact,
once
people
started
putting
that
on
instagram,
you
wouldn't
even
have
to
advertise
right,
yeah
right.
E
Patrick,
I
have
a
quick
question.
So
what
was
the
path
in
the
middle,
which
was
something
that
you
could
walk
on?
I
looked
at
the
plants
on
the
plant
list,
so
I
got
the
impression
that
you'd
be
on
the
sides
here,
so
you
would
no
longer
be
walking
through
the
middle.
Is
that
correct.
A
That
is
correct,
so
that
was
the
other
thing
about.
It
is
that
we
weren't
really
finding
things
that
were
very
tread
worthy
yeah,
so
we
didn't
want
it
to
be
very
inviting
for
walking
on.
So
I
think
that
this
new
kind
of
approach
probably
does
that
all
right.
E
And
also
I
just
I
updated
the
dwa
board
this
morning.
Let
them
know
we
were
moving
forward
with
that,
so
they
were
quite.
C
Difficult
also,
the
majority
of
people
be
luggage
through
that.
So
you
really
do
need
a
concrete
pathway
rather
than
granite,
pulverized
granite.
A
Yep
yeah
and
those
will
be
concrete,
the
paths
so
that
will
further
direct
people
to
those
areas
too.
A
Okay,
all
right,
any
other
questions,
lonnie.
H
Yeah,
I
think
that
the
design
that
they
finally
have
come
up
with
is
great.
I
just
I
love
that
waving
line
rather
than
the
regimented
design
that
they
had
before.
So
I
think
it's
great
that,
like
you
and
I
were
talking
about
it's
a
lot
of
different
kinds
of
plants,
and
I
I
guess
we
if
we
can
afford
it,
but
I'd
say
if
we
can,
we
should
go
for
it,
they're,
not
all
going
to
survive
and
we'll
find
out
which
ones
do
within
the
next.
H
A
H
Yeah
one
other
question:
I
would
love
to
see
this.
I
would
love
to
hold
this
in
my
hand
and
see
this
blown
up
and
not
just
on
my
computer
screen.
I
suppose
I
could
print
it
if
I
could
figure
it
out,
but
I'd
like
to
you
know,
be
able
to
place
the
plants
and
go
through
just
having
received
it.
I
you
know,
I
don't
feel
like
I've
had
too
much
of
a
chance
with
it.
Yet.
A
Yep,
we'll
we'll
go
through
it
in
in
more
depth
whenever
we,
our
little
group
needs
to.
So
I
mostly
wanted
to
get
some
feedback
from
the
full
group
just
to
see.
If
anybody
had
any
concerns
about
any
of
the
things
they
saw.
So
we
could
work
out
some
of
the
details.
Yeah
carl.
A
C
A
Have
signage
so
we're
gonna
have
signage
towards
the
entrance
so
again,
depending
on
where
that
falls
so
it'll
be
towards
the
right.
And
then
we
also
had
plans
to
add
some
signage
in
probably
near
some
of
the
bench
space
or
where
some
of
the
curves
are
so
just
kind
of
strategically
throughout,
so
that
they
could
we're
and
we're
also
thinking
about
using
the
qr
codes
so
that
people
could
just
splash
over
them
and
then
they'd
get
all
the
information
on
a
particular
plant.
A
A
A
They've
been
they've
been
doing
a
pretty
good
job
of
kind
of
putting
plugging
things
in
and
seeing
where
we're,
following
and
but
but
yeah.
I
think
we're
all
we're
all
pretty
much
on
budget
with
this
design.
Wow
sandra.
D
The
issue
of
the
signing-
I
think
you
know
that's
important
and-
and
you
know
the
instagram
moment,
I
think-
shouldn't
be
passed
and
if
there's
you
know,
maybe
some
art
everywhere
or
one
sculptural
addition,
even
if
it
was
maybe
functioning
as
a
birdbath
or
something
you
know,
natural
helping.
You
know
the
critters
in
the
area
would
be
nice,
but
I
think
of
some
public
art
would
be
even
if
it
was
small
or
a
few
things
placed
in
the
garden
would
be
a
nice
addition.
A
D
A
We've
been
holding
off
a
little
bit
of
talking
to
the
public
arts
folks,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
some
opportunities
here.
D
A
But
possibly
we'd
love
some
it'd
be
kind
of
fun
to
get
some
ideas
for
it.
So
all
right
well
great,
so
more
to
follow
on
this.
If
I
assume
that
if
well,
let
me
back
up
so
the
plan
would
be
to
have
a
more
detailed
conversation
with
our
little
subgroup.
A
That
includes
members
of
the
airport
commission's
landscape
committee
as
well.
So
we
want
to
bring
that
back
to
that
little
group
kind
of
refine
things
a
bit
assuming
that
there's
no
major
changes.
What
we'll
do
is
we'll
probably
take
this
to
the
airport
commission
in
january
and
get
their
thumbs
up
on
it,
and
then
I
have
to
see
if
we
have
to
bring
it
back
to
city
council
for
the
final
design,
but
but
the
next
step
would
be
to
essentially
get
bids
on
this
to
to
have
it
constructed.
A
So
that's
really
the
next
step,
so
all
right
so
more
to
follow
I'll.
Keep
you
guys
posted
on
that
activity
all
right.
I
would
also
encourage
you
guys
to
look
through
the
plant
list,
because
it's
actually
a
really
nice
summary
of
plants
that
seemingly
do
really
well
out
here,
and
the
group
took
a
lot
of
time
in
trying
to
figure
out
what
works
and
got
rid
of
what
doesn't.
So
there
are
some
unique
things
on
there
that
you
don't
necessarily
see
so
often.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
that.
A
If
you're
planting
anything
and
then
that's
all-
I
had
on
the
demo
garden
and
I
think
that's
all-
of
old
business.
B
A
All
right,
so
I
wanted
to
just
share
with
you
a
little
presentation
that
will
form
the
basis
for
a
staff
report
to
city
council
whenever
this
is
all
when
this
all
comes
together.
So
basically,
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
where
we
are
just
a
little
history.
A
A
Currently,
all
of
our
chargers
are
free
around
around
the
city
and
they
were
put
in
around
the
2013
time
frame,
so
they're
sort
of
reaching
the
end
of
their
technically
useful
life,
although
most
of
them
still
work,
the
we
did
receive
some
grant
funding
in
2019
and
2020
to
help
install
some
of
these
things.
Sixty
thousand
dollars
for
eighteen
level.
A
Two
charges
isn't
actually
a
lot
if
you're
running
any
any
power
lines,
and
then
we've
got
a
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
right
now
for
level
three
chargers,
the
fast
chargers
through
another
grant
and
that
one
is
actually
going
to
expire
in
march.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
something
in
in
the
ground
before
then,
so
we
don't
lose
that
money.
A
We
started
to
work
on
the
solar
and
green
building
subcommittee
on
the
scope
and
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
and
shared
initial
ideas
with
the
commission
in
january
of
2020,
and
we
actually
were
starting
to
pursue
purchase
of
the
chargers
in
march
time
frame
right
before
cobit
hit.
So
the
then
of
course
cobit
hit
and
we
were
asked
to
look
for
a
lower,
no
cost
solution,
given
the
city's
budget
and
moved
to
a
model
where
the
the
chargers
would
be
owned
by
others.
A
So
so
somebody
else
would
come
in
and
actually
own
and
operate
them
so,
based
on
that
direction,
we
issued
an
rfp
in
july
for
this
low
or
no
cost
solution.
We
also
did
were
clear
in
that
rfp
that
we
were
open
to
phasing
in
various
locations
and
also
discussing
maybe
not
to
do
certain
locations.
So
we
were
really
open
to
scope
for
the
responses
that
we
got.
A
We
got
11
responses
in
august
and
there
two
of
them
were
not
responsive
to
the
rfp,
so
they
were
eliminated.
Eight
of
them
had
very
significant
upfront,
installation
and
equipment
costs
to
the
city
in
the
range
of
the
lowest.
One
was
about
three
to
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
as
just
a
ballpark,
which
we
knew
was
not
going
to
be
accurate
to
one
to
two
million
dollars,
so
very
significant
costs
to
the
city.
A
In
most
of
the
responses
that
we
received,
and
then
we
did
get
one
that
actually
responded
to
the
lower
no
cost
business
model
that
we
had
requested
so
and
the
other
thing
that
it
does,
it
did
provide
was
a
pretty
competitive,
competitive
rate
for
users.
So
that
was
one
of
the
things
we
were
looking
for
as
well.
A
So
the
city
proceeded
with
is
in
the
process
of
negotiating
with
that
preferred
provider
and
we're
basically
focused
on
scoping
so
a
little
bit
more
about
their
the
model
that
they
were
proposing.
Basically,
they
reimburse
or
finance
directly
the
city
costs
for
installation
and
equipment,
so
they
basically
end
up
paying
for
all
of
the
equipment
and
installation.
A
They
do
pay
the
city
a
leasing
fee
for
the
spaces
that
they
use.
So,
for
example,
you
know
they
would
pay
us
say
75
dollars
for
a
level
3
and
25
for
a
level
two
space.
So
we
get
revenue
as
a
result
of
their
presence,
and
I
did
do
a
rough
calculation
based
on
the
scope
that
I'm
gonna
share
with
you
that
we
make
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars
a
year.
I
think
just
just
for
letting
them
be
so
then
they
do
their.
A
I
think
their
rate
for
users
is
going
to
be
about
29
cents,
a
kilowatt
hour
which,
if
you
look
across
the
valley,
that's
probably
one
of
the
lowest
that's
out
there.
The
I
think
the
ones
down
in
rancho
or
indio
are
about
34
cents,
so
they're
they're
pretty
low,
but
will
be
a
little
bit
lower
and
then
they
would
assume
all
operations,
maintenance
and
networking
of
the
station.
So
we
really
don't
have
to
worry
about
it.
A
A
The
other
thing
is
that
their
proposal
takes
advantage
of
the
grants
that
we
have,
but
doesn't
necessarily
rely
on
them.
So
some
of
the
proposals
that
we
got
were
well.
If
the
city
got
500
000
in
grants,
then
you
wouldn't,
then
there
would
be
no
cost
to
the
city,
but
that
you
know
we
know
how
that
goes.
A
So
we
didn't
want
to
rely
on
the
grants,
because
they've
got
a
lot
of
conditions,
and
things
like
that,
so
so
anyway,
so
that
that
was
also
appealing
to
us
in
terms
of
their
proposed
approach.
A
So
in
our
discussion
so
far
on
scope,
I
did
want
to
kind
of
go
through
it
with
you,
because
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
what
we
talked
about
before
so
instead
of
doing
the
entire
city
at
one
time,
which
would
be
hard
to
do
anyway.
A
What
we've
talked
about
with
them
is
faced
approach,
because
it
also
gives
us
a
chance
to
work
with
them
a
little
bit
and
see
how
that
goes
and
make
sure
that
the
relationship
is
right
moving
forward,
so
so
the
first
phase
phase
one
a
and
b
focus
on
downtown,
so
really
mo
and
city
hall.
So
those
are
really
the
the
core
of
what
we
would
focus
on.
A
In
the
first
phase,
so
city
hall,
we've
been
starting
charging
installing
two
dc
fast
chargers
and
two
dual
port
level,
two
stations,
and
so
the
those
stations
would
all
be
consolidated
right
across
from
where
our
entrance
is
here
in
the
back.
So
that
would
add
for
us
a
total
of
six
stations.
I
think
so,
two,
I'm
sorry
a
total
of
four
new
stations,
so
two
fast
chargers
and
two
level
twos,
so
that
that's
a
great
asset
for
here
at
city
hall.
A
We
do
have
a
lot
of
usage
of
our
ev
chargers
by
both
the
public
and
the
city.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
location
for
us,
the
other
location.
This
is
the
new
downtown
museum
garage
since
we'll
have
the
new
park
that's
going
in
there.
I
think
that
this
garage
will
be
used
quite
frequently,
and
so
this
is
going
to
be
kind
of
our
charging
hub.
A
Tesla
has
several
in
the
basement
of
that
garage
and
then
we
would
be
at
the
entrance
level
and
we
would
have
four
fast
chargers
and
then
seven
level,
two
charging
spaces,
so
so
quite
a
bit
of
charging
capacity
there
and
we
could
certainly
expand
if
we
needed
to
then
downtown
baristo
garage.
A
This
is
one
where
they
would
like
to
put
four
fast
chargers
in
and
then
two
dual
port
level,
two
stations,
so
we
would
basically
be
taking
over
the
parking
on
if
you've
ever
been
into
that
garage.
A
That's
right
behind
the
village
pub
there.
If
you
go
into
the
entrance
and
to
the
right,
the
handicap
spaces
are
right
there
to
the
right,
and
then
we
would
take
the
entire
east
facing
side
of
that
that
parking
garage
with
all
ev
chargers.
So
that's
that's
where
that
would
go,
there's
a
little
the
parking
lot
behind
the
vineyard
area.
There
are
two
there's
two
level
two
chargers
there,
and
so
we
would
just
double
the
amount
to
four
and
then
the
convention
center
lot
is.
A
We
would
just
be
replacing
the
two
port,
two
dual
ports
that
are
there
now
with
two
new
ones.
So
that
so
that,
basically
in
the
entire
downtown
corridor
would
be
converted
after
this,
after
this
first
phase,
which
I
think
is
kind
of
important
to
have
a
little
consistency
across
the
city
of
people's
experience.
So
so
that's
the
first
phase
and
then
phase
two
again
depending
on
how
this
goes
is,
would
really
focus
on
the
community,
centers
and
other
locations
around
the
city
of
converting
over
what
we
have.
A
I
think
that
ruth
hardy
park
could
be
a
main
hub
where
we
might
add
a
fast
charger
or
two
as
well
as
level
twos
and
then
dumouth
park
is
another
one
that
we've
been
targeting
so
so
anyway.
So
that
would
be
phase
two,
and
we
would
do
that
through
a
change
in
the
contract.
Again,
assuming
everything
went
smoothly
in
that
first
phase,
and
then
this
just
gives
you
a
sense
of
schedule.
A
So
we
would
finalize
the
scope
and
agreement
this
month
presented
to
council
in
january,
finalize
the
contract
and
secure
the
permits
for
everything
in
february
march
time
frame
and
then
begin
construction
in
march
april,
so
spring
time
frame.
C
A
Everything
completed
by
this
by
the
early
summer,
so
that's
that's
the
hope,
so
that
is
where
we're
at
with
that,
and
so
I
wanted
to
get
your
feedback
on
that
and
I
think
I
would
like
some
sort
of
consensus
or
or
some
thumbs
up
from
the
group
to
move
forward
unless
you've
got
any
questions
or
concerns
about
what
I
presented
so.
E
Patrick
this
is
david.
Can
you
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
the
point
in
the
presentation
take
advantage
of
grants
but
doesn't
rely
on
them?
Would
the
city
have
to
I
mean
there's
like
two
hundred
thousand
dollars?
We
have
to
give
the
grant
money
back
or
could
we
use
it
and
then
essentially,
and
that
would
pay
for
the
installation,
but
then
the
preferred
provider
would
then
reimburse
us
for
that.
Is
that
how
that
would
work?
It
just
wasn't
clear
from
your
slide
exactly.
A
What
I
meant
by
that
was
basically
that
we've
got
some
grants
in
hand
and
those
are
nice
things
to
have,
and
we
will
utilize
them
to
the
extent
that
we
can
utilize
them
and
the
preferred
provider
that
we're
working
with
is
is
sort
of
on
board
with
that,
so
the
so
the
grant
money
is
nice
and
it's
helpful
to
offset
their
costs,
but
they
aren't
gonna
halt
their
project
if,
for
some
reason,
the
grant
money
expires
like,
for
instance,
those
two,
the
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
for
the
level
three
chargers
expires
in
march,
and
if
something
were
to
happen,
they
they,
if
they
refuse
to
extend
that
again,
the
provider
is
not
going
to
stop
the
project
just
because
of
that,
so
that
that's
kind
of
what
I
meant
meant
by
you
know
their
you
know
they
didn't
rely
on
them
to
to
to
place
their
bid.
A
E
A
Yeah
and
and
so
we're
we're
working
with
them
a
little
bit
like,
for
example,
on
phase
1b,
which
is
the
church
lot
behind,
just
fabulous,
which
we
think
would
be
another
great
spot
for
a
bunch
of
chargers
that
one
we're
sort
of
holding
off
on,
partly
because
they're
gonna
have
their
hands
full
with
the
first
part
of
that
phase,
but
we're
also
kind
of
holding
off,
because
southern
california
edison
is
restarting
their
charge
ready
program,
which
is
a
program
where
they
will
actually
fund
and
pay
for
the
electrical
installation
costs.
A
E
A
They
said
that
unless
they
just
said
talk
to
us
when
you
get
further
along
so
hopefully
as
we
get,
if
we
can
get
a
contract
in
place
and
get
moving
on
permits
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
to
show
that
we're
we're
shovel
ready,
then
I
think
that
we
shouldn't
have
any
problem
doing
that
and
I
also
have
a
bunch
a
few
other
applications
in
for
cal
evip
funding
in
case
more
money
is
freed
up
on
that.
Okay.
E
All
right,
that's
good!
So
thank
you
for
that
and
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
it
at
the
next
committee
meeting
and
then
just
comment
for
when
you're
putting
random
locations,
I
didn't
see
any
in
the
south
part
of
palm
springs
and
so
smoke
tree
could
be
a
good.
You
know.
Obviously
it's
right
across
from
saguaro
down
the
block
from
you
know
the
the
ace
and
all
the
other
hotels.
So
don't
do
consider
something
in
that
whole
commercial
corridor
along
east
palm
canyon,
because
I
didn't
see
that
as
a
location.
A
A
The
only
two
exceptions
that
we
have
are
the
cultural
center
camelot,
theater
ones
and
then
the
desert
aids
project-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
had
some
special
deal
with
the
dap
for
that
that
space,
but
but
in
general,
all
of
our
other
stuff,
is
on
private
public
property
and
and
there's
just
none
down
there
and
we.
I
thought
that
would
be
a
great
place
too,
and
we
could
actually,
after
this
gets
rolling.
A
E
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
would
be
good
and
if
tourism
you
know
ever
returns,
that's
obviously
particularly
I
know
for
coachella.
Is
that
there's
just
a
whole
lot
of
folks
who
stay
in
hotels
during
coachella,
assuming
that
there
will
be
coachella,
perhaps
in
october
2021?
So
so
that
would
be
good.
I
think,
there's
a
there's
a
crowd
and
there's
a
business
place,
but
I
understand
those
are
all
public,
the
restaurant
public
property
and
there
isn't
any
like
city
park
in
that
area.
Unfortunately,
right
right.
C
C
Vap
spaces
we
just
allowed
the
city
to
install
those.
A
A
Okay,
all
right
so
we'll
we'll
probably
want
to
revisit
that
just
to
make
sure
that
everybody
would
be
on
board
with
either
new
new
ones
there
or
an
expansion
there.
So
you
may
want
to
just
keep
them
because
they're
free.
C
A
Great,
so
we
should
talk
about
that.
All
right,
cool
lonnie.
H
A
For
example:
yes,
yes,
so
so
what
happens?
They
call
it
a
rip
and
replace
so
they,
basically
they
just
chop
the
top
off
and
they
use
the
wiring
that's
there
and
they
put
a
new
thing
in
its
place,
and
so
I
do
believe
I
I
will
have
to
ask
them,
but
this
may
be
one
of
those
things
where
we
could
potentially
sell
them
to
the
the
public
for
a
very
small
amount
and
it
doesn't
take
a
lot
to
install
a
level
two
charger.
A
So
if
people
wanted
them,
we
could
maybe
make
them
available
to
people
at
a
low
cost.
So.
H
A
You
do,
but
the
technology
changes
a
lot
and
those
ones
that
we
have
are
not
networked
either,
and
so
we
have
no
information
on
them,
which
is
a
problem
moving
forward,
especially
when
you're
trying
to
get
you
know.
A
C
A
The
flip
phone
of
chargers
is
what
we
and
again
most
of
them
do.
Most
of
them
do
work.
They
do
experience
some
problems
every
once
in
a
while,
and
most
of
the
problems
are
related
to
chord
management,
and
so
that's
a
big
thing
that
will
come
with
these
new
ones
is
they'll
have
a
cord
management
system,
so
the
cord
gets
sucked
up,
and
so
it
doesn't
you
don't
necessarily
drive
away
with
it
and
doesn't
sit
on
the
ground,
and
so
it's
it's
a
lot
better.
From
that
perspective,
too,.
A
Well,
you
know
that's
a
good
question,
I
don't
know
if
they
have
a
particular
lifespan,
but
the
nice
thing
about
this
arrangement
is
we
don't
have
to
worry
about.
That
is
that
they
will
upgrade
them
if
they
need
to
be
upgraded
and
I'm
sure
that
they'll
always
want
the
latest
technology
out
there.
So
so
we
can
kind
of
work
with
them
if,
if
they
do
get
upgraded
to
see,
if
there's
a
way
to
utilize
what
they
that
they
get
rid
of
or
something
like
that.
H
I
would
definitely
strongly
encourage
them
to
have
find
some
way
to
recycle
them
in
some
way.
You
know,
so
we
don't
have
a
bunch
of
disks
right,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
where
they're
gonna
go.
You
know.
C
A
It's
still,
there
are
still
different
systems
for
tesla
versus
other
cars,
so,
for
example,
all
of
those
tesla
charging
stations
in
the
basement
of
that
parking
garage
are
only
tesla
charging
stations
right,
yeah,
okay,.
A
No,
so
that's
that's
what
makes
it
a
little
bit
problematic,
so
we
do
need
extra
station,
even
though
it
seems
crazy,
because
there's
like
going
to
be
24
of
them.
I
think
you
still
need
other
chargers
so.
C
And
charge
because
we
see
tesla's
charge
at
dap
and
those
are
just
generic.
Yes,.
F
But
there's
no
reverse
adapter
charge
a
regular
car
on
a
tesla.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
all
right
so
I'll
continue
to
finalize
our
conversation
with
that.
The
only
the
only
other
thing
that
we
have
that's
left
in
that
process
is
our
lawyers
are
still
looking
at
the
leasing
agreement,
so
so
the
lawyers
will
have
to
just
make
sure
that
that's
all
put
together
and
and
they're
working
on
it.
So
so
I
think
that
that'll
come
come
through
here
in
the
next
week
or
so
all
right.
I
think
that
is
the
end
of
my
new
business.
B
Thank
you,
patrick.
The
next
item
under
new
business
is
a
follow-on
from
a
discussion
that
we
had
a
presentation
that
we
had
at
our
november
meeting
by
jim
flanagan
and
that's
fees
at
the
burst
of
parking
structure.
Jim,
would
you
like
to
give
a
verbal
report.
F
Yeah
yeah
yeah.
I
will
try
to
keep
this
under
10
minutes
at
6
30.
So
when
we
left
off,
I
gave
you
some
research
with
some
recommendations
for
downtown
parking
fee
structure
and
including
this
in
the
general
plan.
So
I
did
some
research.
I
did
find
a
number
of
spots
in
the
general
plan,
visions
and
priorities.
That
looks
like
that.
This
fits
in
well
with
the
general
plan
and
numbers
two:
seven
and
nine
all
encourage
reduction
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
encouraging
safe
bicycle
and
pedestrian
movements
and
creating
areas
of
less
dependent
automobiles.
F
So
I
think
it
fits
in
pretty
well.
But
more
importantly,
I
talked
with
a
couple
of
folks.
F
One
of
them
was
max
scheidemann
who's,
a
former
city
traffic
engineer
at
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
more
importantly,
I
talked
with
council
member
dennis
woods
so
and
I
learned
some
more
things
which
I'll
share
with
you
quickly,
both
max
and
dennis
were
supportive
of
a
fee
based
street
parking.
So
I
had
been
mentioning
parking
at
the
baristo
structure
and
both
of
them
said
no.
No,
no
what's
really
important
here
is
merchants
and
merchants
need
turnover
in
front
of
their
stores.
They
don't
need
they
want.
F
You
know
cars
to
come
in
for
half
an
hour.
15
minutes
buy
a
cup
of
coffee
and
leave.
They
don't
want
people
parking
there.
A
lot
and
turnover
is
really
important
and
then
it
seems
councilmember
woods
seems
pretty
sophisticated
as
far
as
he
suggested
demand
pricing
where
you
actually
price
the
meters
at
such
an
amount
so
that
you
always
have
five
to
ten
percent
of
the
spaces
available,
and
that
kind
of
rang
for
me,
because
I
generally
don't
even
park
on
palm
canyon,
because
I
know
it's
hard
to
find
spaces
there.
F
So
both
of
those
were
valuable
to
merchants.
They
thought
to
encourage
turnover.
I
talked
to
car
a
little
bit
and
we
both
agreed
well,
they
do
have
some
downtown
limits.
Already
I
mean
you
look
around
there's
green
spots,
which
are
20
minutes
on
most
of
palm
canyon.
It's
a
three-hour
maximum
on
palm
canyon,
from
noon
to
eight
and
then
in
the
plaza,
there's
a
two-hour
maximum,
but
most
of
those
spots
are
full,
so
it
means
the
turnover
benefits
are
less,
but
one
thing
I
didn't
take
away
is
dennis.
F
I
mean
carl
pointed
out
that
he
gets
marked
and
ticketed,
so
we
already
are
doing
parking
enforcement.
So
I
guess
what
that
means
is
that
since
we're
already
doing
parking
enforcement,
that
means
putting
in
meters
will
cost
less
than
I
would
think,
because
we
already
have
an
enforcement
budget
there.
So
another
thing
that
we
discussed
was
that
where
the
parking
demand
exceeds
supply
like
the
downtown
areas,
less
turnover
means
more.
F
Drivers
must
circle
to
look
around
and
feed
based
parking
will
make
sure
that
there's
always
space
is
available,
and
it
also
increases
certainty
that
if
you
drive
downtown
there
will
be
a
spot.
It
won't
be
free,
but
it'll,
be
you
know
in
palm
canyon
and
maybe
in
the
closet.
Streets
they'll
be
available,
so
I
went
out
and
I
had
I
got
to
vote
carl
and
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
and
carl
brought
up
some
really
good
points.
F
You
know
what
does
this
really
reduce
the
number
of
trips
and
will
it
really
produce
a
net
revenue?
And
what
is
the
effect
on
merchants
and
all
of
carl's
points
are
very
valid.
You
know
this
isn't
a
big
city.
You
can't
take
the
subway.
You
can't
do
a
lot
of
things
that
this
really
works.
So
you
know
these
are
good
things
to
think
about,
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
underscores.
Maybe
this
is
best
as
a
pilot
approach
rather
than
a
big
change
around.
F
So
it's
you
know
it
hasn't
x,
anything
out
of
my
mind,
but
it's
open
for
conversation.
Carl
also
mentioned
that
you
know
the
people
that
might
be
able
to
not
take
a
trip
and
use
uber
or
walk
or
something
like
that.
A
more
city,
local
see,
people
who
live
in
the
city,
both
he
and
I
you
know-
have
taken
uber
and
car
shares
in
before.
F
Just
because
we
were
going
out,
we
didn't
want
to
drive
and
that
reduces
parking,
so
that
does
mean
that
the
expense
of
this
falls
on
tourists
and
people
that
aren't
city
residents
somewhat.
So
it's
a
small
statement,
though
so
in
my
discussions
with
dennis
woods,
he
suggested
that
we
come
up
with
a
policy
statement
and
some
goals
for
the
general
plan.
F
C
On
the
agenda,
so
we
couldn't
bring
it
up,
although
I
did
raise
the
issue.
Commissioner
friedman
sat
through
our
marathon
meeting
last
night,
so
he
could
comment.
But
when
we
were
talking
about
the
well,
it's
not
the
college.
I
forget
what
the
the
educational
center
that's
the
college
of
the
desert,
where
the
old
palm
springs
mall
used
to
be.
I
even
thought:
well,
there's
nothing
there
for
ride.
Sharing
like
where
are
the
students?
Are
they
they're
not
taking
buses
to
get
to
college?
There's
nothing!
C
There's
nothing
in
that
plan
about
transportation.
In
fact,
most
of
the
general
plan
doesn't
really
look
at
transportation
when
they're
dividing
up
spaces
for
commercial
residential
schools
parks
et
cetera,
that's
not.
It
was
never
part
of
any
conversation
whatsoever
last
night.
So
this
is
something
I
want
to
try
and
raise.
But
since
the
general
plan
is
so
structured
in
the
way
this
committee
is
going
through
it,
there
really
isn't
room
to
introduce
the
transportation
element.
F
So
so
carl,
but
I
did
see
in
the
vision
plan
there
was
discussion
of
circulation
systems
that
you
know,
encourage
safe,
bicycling,
pedestrian,
music
and
pedestrian
movement
and
flow
of
vehicle
traffic,
and
also
to
create
a
walkable
neighborhood.
So
that's
not
really
transportation,
then
you're,
saying.
E
If
I
understand
it,
there's
a
circulation
element,
but
that's
just
a
limited
update,
so
that
part
is
not
being
updated.
Is
that
essentially
so
the
vision
and
priorities
the
priorities
kind
of
go
to
it?
But
the
sort
of
details
are
not
part
of
this
round.
I
think
that's
how
I
understand
it
so
whether
it
can
be
snuck
in
somewhere
else
is
a
bit
of
a
stretch.
F
Well,
I
tell
you
what,
unless,
unless
I
get
a
thumbs
down
from
everybody-
and
I
I'm
you
know-
I
see
both
sides
of
this
I'll-
continue
to
try
and
write
up
a
policy
since,
since
we
have
a
council
member,
that's
supportive
of
this
and
he
asked
me
to
go
ahead
and
come
up
with
a
policy
statement.
Some
goals
I'm
going
to
prepare
them,
but
you
know
we
can.
We
don't
have
to
stick
with
it,
but
I'm
just
going
to
continue
on
this
route.
If
that's
okay,.
E
Yeah
jim,
if
you
can
have
something
ready
for,
I
guess
a
week
and
a
half
or
so
we
can
go
and
going
to
discuss
it
at
the
next
committee
meeting,
or
at
least
you
know,
give
you
some
feedback.
If.
F
F
C
F
C
A
F
Because
dennis
was
specific
about
saying,
a
policy
statement
and
some
goals
so
I'll
look
to
see
for
the
format
there.
Okay,
all
right
and
I
will
throw
in-
can
I
throw
in
one
more
little.
Sidebar
too,
is
dennis
also
kind
of
shocked
me.
He
said
he
would
be
interested
in
seeing
one
of
the
lanes
taken
away
on
palm
canyon
and
converted
into
a
two-way
bicycle
lane.
B
B
Sandra
has
worked
on
a
short
version
of
a
document
that
could
be
provided
to
business
owners
downtown
and
that
that
was
included
with
the
agenda
packet.
You
have
any
comments
you'd
like
to
make
on
that
sandra.
D
Just
to
keep
it
short,
it's
it's
a
public
health
issue
and
if
from
a
design
point
and
the
cost
is
the
same,
obviously
we
should
be
using
the
materials
that
are
healthier
that
are
not
virus
friendly,
so
plastic,
being
the
worst
offender.
In
fact,
when
I
saw
you
earlier
this
morning,
we
were
standing
in
front
of
some
of
those
plastic
boss
box
hedges,
which
looked
great
in
in
film,
but
they're
they're,
trapped,
oops.
D
Come
on,
okay,
yeah,
I
think
the
most
of
the
plastic
has
been
removed
and,
of
course
everybody
is
closed.
Now
again,
but
most
of
the
plastic
has
been
removed,
the
biggest
defender.
I
think
it
is
the
plastic
box
hedges
which
very
few
it's.
It's
happens
more
in
the
more
fancy
upscale
places
where
they've
tried
to
do
a
nicer
display,
they're
they're
they're
like
a
catch
track
for
viruses,
and
you
can't
clean
them.
You
can't
maintain
them,
so
some
sometimes
doing
less
or
doing
nothing
is
more
successful.
D
The
plastic
of
any
kind
of
plastic
service
is
covid
friendly
virus
friendly.
So
if
it's
not
covered
it's
going
to
be
a
common,
cold
or
slow
or
sars
or
whatever
is
going
to
be
coming
down
the
pipe.
So
it's
a
public
health
issue
and
the
materials
the
cost
of
the
materials
are
about
the
same
and
certainly
less
than
if
you're,
using
acrylic,
which
is
also
slightly
under
plastic,
but
plastic
and
glass
and
stainless
steel.
D
Some
of
it
is
counter-intuitive,
are
actually
conducive
to
the
virus,
and
then
the
cleaning
and
the
maintenance
are
things
you
have
to
factor
in
as
well,
but
the
the
copper
or
copper
sprayed
surface
which
can
be
used
and
in
installed
easily
without
special
tools,
just
like
using
paper,
and
then
that
would
be
the
least
virus
friendly
and
they're
starting
to
use
it
in
hospitals
now
for
door
handles
railings,
and
things
like
that
that
people
are
touching
wouldn't
have
to
be
cleaned
as
frequently
and
second
to
that
would
be
single-use
paper
as
not
being
a
trap,
but
that
box
hedge
is
just
a
trap.
D
You
can't
clean
it,
and
even
when
you
clean
it,
you
have
to
let
it
completely
dry,
which
can
take
up
to
four
hours.
So
I
would
suggest
if
we
could
just
eliminate
the
use
of
the
plastic
in
the
outdoor
dining.
D
We
would
have
a
safer
environment
for
everybody,
for
the
workers,
as
well
as
as
for
the
guests
and
the
visitors,
and
it's
just
a
simple
matter
of
choice:
do
you
want
the
the
friendly
or
the
the
unfriendly?
Do
you
want
to
be
healthy
or
not
healthy?
So
I
think
I
I
think
just
that
study
and
the
use
of
those
materials
people
don't
know
and
that
you
assume
oh
glass,
plastic
and
because
of
the
hospitals
and
all
of
that
and
increased
plastics
that
were
now
we
were
drowning
in
it
at
the
beginning
of
the
year.
D
C
D
B
Well
now
we
have
the
draft
document
that
you've
provided
and
the
intent
was
to
have
that
to
be
able
to
distribute
businesses
considering
the
shutdown
right
now.
Perhaps
we
should
stand
down
on
it.
If
anybody
has
any
comments,
they
can
send
them
to
you
and
then
eventually
we
can
finalize
that
document
and
think
about
how
we
can
distribute
it.
D
Well,
while
everybody
is,
is
closed
down
again
right
now,
this
would
be
a
good
time
to
consider
before
we
reopen
again,
because
that
will
happen,
and
it's
just
hygiene.
B
D
Only
thing
I
would
I'm
not
asking
them
to
do
something
else
that
isn't
that
isn't
the
point:
it's
letting
them
letting
them
see
what
the
range
is
of
their
choices,
so
they
can
make
the
right
choice
themselves.
It's
nothing
that
you'd
want
to
make
anything
legal,
it's
just
it's
just
making
good
choices,
smart
choices,
healthy
choices,
you
know
just
like
washing
your
hands
so
and
in
a
lot
of
cases
it
isn't
that
they
would
have
to
buy
anything.
D
B
H
The
first
comment
I
wanted
to
make
well
I'll
make
it
I'll
make
you
I'll
answer
the
question
that
you've
posed.
I
think
that
now
things
are
shut
down
it's.
This
is
the
time
to
plant
the
seed.
H
Now
some
people
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
act
on
it,
but
they're
going
to
have
that
seed,
they're
going
to
start
to
think
about
it
and
one
of
the
things
when
I
read
that
document
I
think
I
was
up
in
the
clouds
fighting
having
this
war
with
the
internet.
I
I
had
to
boge
out
on
the
meeting
up
in
portland,
but
one
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned
sandra
was
different
metals
and
how
copper
is-
and
I
did-
I
ended
up
doing
a
lot
of
reading
on
it.
H
Copper
is
the
most
virus.
Non-Adherent
I
mean
it
just
doesn't
last
hardly
at
all
on
and
you
think,
copper.
Oh,
that's
really
an
expensive
building
material.
It's
not
it's
really
cheap
and
in
fact,
if
you,
if
you
do
any
barbecuing
a
wonderful
way
to
barbecue
vegetables
is
using,
you
can
get
it's
about
a
a
12
by
10
sheet
of
copper,
but
it's
so
thin
put
it
on
on
your
your
barbecue
and
put
the
vegetables
on
it,
and
it
still
gets
lines
from
the
barbecue,
which
is
what
we
all
love
and
barbecue.
H
You
know
red
bell,
peppers
or
whatever,
but
you
can
get
this.
You
can
get
two
sheets
of
that
for
barbecue
for
like
20
bucks
and
it's
cheaper.
If
you,
of
course,
you
get
it
in
mass,
so
that
would
be
something
that
people
could
start
to
look
into
and
it
would
be.
You
could
cover
a
counter
with
it,
which
is
you
know
they
use
tons
of
that
cleaning
fluid
to
to
clean
off
a
counter,
but
I
would
say,
number
one.
H
Yes,
this
is
the
time
if
you
can
get
it
done,
I'd
get
it
out
there
as
soon
as
possible
and
number
two.
I
would
go
in
and
work
a
little
bit
more
on
the
text
so
that
the
it
can
be
envisioned
a
little
bit
more
clearly
and
how
that
could
be
used.
I
don't
know
get
so
much
into
the
the
bushes,
although
I
do
take
your
point,
but
the
places
that
there's
the
most
where
it
could
have
the
most
impact.
I
would
definitely
hit
on
those
and
point
out
that
it's
not
expensive
making.
D
D
Thumb
tuck
it
in,
but
as
long
as
it
has
that
light,
copper
coating,
it's
it's
a
whole
other
world
and
the
hospitals
are
now
utilizing
the
copper
just
like
they
have
traditionally
in
kitchens
in
that,
for
not
only
for
the
heat
purposes,
but
for
health
and
hygiene,
so
yeah
it's
brilliant,
but
who
would
I
would,
I
would
think,
stainless
steel
and
glass,
like
I
said,
a
lot.
Some
of
it
is
counter
intuitive,
but
those
are
those
are
some
of
the
worst
glass
even
worse
than
plastic,
and
it's
recyclable.
D
B
B
E
Okay,
thank
you.
Chair
clark,
lots
of
things
going
on.
First,
I
attended
the
energy
commission's
workshops
on
the
on
its
proceedings
over
the
past
two
weeks.
These
include
sp
100
on
renewable
energy
resources,
sp
49
on
flexible
demand,
appliance
standards
and
the
22
2022
energy
code,
I'll
prepare
a
summary
of
the
workshops
and
where
the
proceedings
are
going
for
our
january
5th.
E
The
solar
green
building
committee
and
I'll
attach
that
summary
to
the
committee
report
for
the
next
month's
commission
meeting,
I'm
also
following
the
energy
commission's
bill,
proceeding
which
allocates
80
million
dollars
to
incentivize
the
construction
of
all
new
electric,
low-income
residential
housing.
E
Nearly
half
the
funds
are
reserved
for
the
socal
gas
territory
in
light
of
city
council's
approval
last
week
of
dap's
new,
low-income
housing
project
I'll,
send
commissioner
baker
information
about
that
program
and
congratulations
to
commissioner
baker
and
also
for
including
solar
carports
on
in
that
project,
which
I
thought
was
great
speaking
of
reach
codes.
Last
week,
the
energy
commission
approved
four
all-electronic,
four
moral,
electric
ordinances
and
posted
another
four,
all
electric
ordinances
for
public
comment
and
approval
at
its
meeting
next
month.
E
To
date,
the
energy
commission
has
approved
36
ordinances
from
29
jurisdictions,
exceeding
the
standards
and
the
2019
energy
code,
and
the
latest
matrix
is
included
with
patrick's
email
from
yesterday
with
additional
materials
for
tonight's
meeting,
and
also
I've
been
continuing.
My
work
as
a
beta
tester
for
the
codes
and
standards
cost
effectiveness
app,
which
helps
local
jurisdictions
show
how
their
reach
codes
are
cost-effective,
which
is
required
for
energy
commission
approval.
E
I
reviewed
the
new
tools
that
show
the
how
the
amount
of
cost
savings
and
ghg
emissions
reductions
for
each
measure
and
I'll
adopt
update
the
cost
effectiveness
table
that
I
previously
worked
on
with
some
of
the
new
data.
That's
it
in
a
minute.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
david
standing
subcommittee
on
waste
reduction.
A
Just
a
couple
of
things
to
follow
up
on
one
is
based
on
our
conversation
at
the
subcommittee
meeting
in
our
last
commission
meeting.
We're
going
to
be
doing
some
updates
to
our
signage,
to
make
sure
that
people
are
aware
of
what
not
to
throw
in
their
recycling
bin
downtown.
So
we're
working
on
that
and
then
I
mentioned
the
valley
wide
coordination
on
1383
already
and
then.
The
only
other
note
that
I
have
is
the
other
big
thing
that
we've
been
working
on.
A
A
lot
is
getting
out
notifications
to
businesses
around
organ
current
organics
requirements
and
recycling
requirements,
and
so
all
the
letters
went
out
over
the
last
month
and
then
the
about
700
of
them,
and
then
they
have
been
starting
to
respond
to
us
with
various
exemptions
and
other
sorts
of
service
requests.
So
we'll
see
where
we
are
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
with
that.
A
But
I
believe
that
that
is
going
to
take
a
significant
amount
of
attention
here
moving
forward
and
it
is
especially
complicated
because
it
involves
restaurants
and
they
keep
changing
the
operating
parameters
for
restaurants.
So
it's
a
very
hard
conversation
to
have
right
now
because
nobody's
normal
and
so
we're
just
trying
to
figure
that
out
too.
G
Sure
I'd
love
to
it
didn't
make
it
into
the
agenda.
I
I
apologized,
I
didn't
get
to
look
at
it
before
this
meeting
so
for
the
art
contest.
I
I
have
an
update
since
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
a
large
part
of
what
we're
doing
for
world
environment
day
this
this
year,
we
applied
the
eec
applied
for
this
other
grant
as
well.
That
looks
like
it
was
funded,
so
I
think
we
have
2500
from
that.
I
don't
know
exactly
the
number
on
that.
G
We
had
some
money
allocated
from
the
eec
for
the
contest,
and
so
it
would
be
wonderful
if,
if
you
all
are
up
to
also
sponsor
one
part
of
the
contest,
you
know
we
were
discussing
the
essay
con
test,
environmental
justice
as
the
theme,
and
so
interestingly,
I
thought
that
our
theme
this
year
would
be
water,
because
I've
been
rotating
the
five
elements,
one
of
the
chairs
of
the
of
the
environmental
education
collaborative
when
she
just
started
making
the
flyer.
G
Just
like
a
prototype
of
this,
she
did
air
and
I
think
for
2020,
it's
quite
fitting.
It
seems
like
with
kovid
and
george
floyd
and
there's
a
lot
of
I
don't
know
I
can't
breathe
is
is
quite
crazy
and
we
think
about
the
salton
sea
as
well.
So
I'm
you
know,
I
think
that
we
just
decided
because
it
seems
so
fitting
to
switch
around
the
elements
I
mean.
Nobody
says
that
they
have
to
go
in
the
exact
same
order,
but
they've
been
that
way
for
the
last
15
years.
G
So
I
think
it's
okay,
you
know
for
2020,
so
I'm
hoping
that
you
all
would
love
to
sponsor.
You
know
part
of
this.
I
think
it
it's
a
way
for
us
to
get
the
commission's
aim
out
there
and
to
do
something
positive,
and
so
I
don't
know
exactly
when
we
want
to
get
this
flyer
out,
but
I'm
I'm
bringing
it
up
like
this,
because
you
know
I
don't
know.
If
we
have
to
vote
on
it,
could
we
do
that?
You
know
virtually,
or
does
it
have
to
be
done
in
a
meeting
like
this.
G
Well,
yeah,
I
just
don't
know
if,
since
we're
meeting
in
five
weeks
from
now,
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
get
the
flyer
out
before
that,
so
it
would
be
nice
to
have
our
logo
on
it.
I
mean
that's
part
of
my
intention
of
you
know
wanting
to
present
that
I
just
I
thought
it
was.
I
thought
we
were
going
to
be
talking
about
it
tonight
and
I
I
apologize.
I
thought
that
the
meeting
was
next
week.
There's
just
so.
I
just
had
the
dates
mixed
in
my
head
a
little
bit
wrong.
G
So
I
apologize,
but
is,
is
there
a
way
that
we
can?
You
know
if
we're
not
ready
to
vote
on
it
tonight
or
maybe,
if
we
could,
that
would
be
great,
but
if,
if
we
could
lonnie.
H
Yeah
just
question
I
mean
I,
I
need
a
little
more
information.
Are
you
talking
about,
like
a
writing
contest,
an
essay?
You
mentioned
an
essay
like
a
talking
about
a
maybe
a
200
word
essay,
or
something
like
that.
With
that
theme
in
mind,
and
then
we
would
so
we
would.
Our
job
would
be
to
offer
three
prizes
and
like
review.
G
Well,
that's
I
mean
that's
to
be
determined.
I
guess
who
is
the
judges?
I
know
that
roy
was
contacting
an
environmental
justice
group
to
see
if
they
might
want
to
assist
with
that.
So
we
also
have
you
know
the
collaborative
everyone
is
pretty
much
open
to
just
inviting
in
whatever
aspects
of
contest.
So
if
we
have
an
essay
contest
that
we
sponsor
it
would
be
probably
grades
four
through
twelve
and
an
adult,
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
to
offer
an
adult
category
just
to
encourage
critical
thinking
amongst
anyone
that
wants
to
participate.
B
G
I
know
well,
it
would
be
due
in
in
may
roy,
but
in
terms
of
getting
the
word
out,
because
I
I
you
know
shared
with
you
last
month
about
the
youth
summit-
that's
going
to
happen,
so
we
need
to
have
a
flyer
for
that:
we're
having
an
adult
symposium
for
the
environmental
education
collaborative.
So
we
want
to
get
the
promotional
materials
for
this
done
and
so
that
they
can
be
distributed
through
the
county
offices
as
well
as
through
these
other
two
events
that
are
going
to
be
happening.
So
that's
where
the
timing
comes
in.
G
If
we
want
to
be
a
part
of
it,
I
would
love
to
have
our
logo
on
it
and
to
be
a
part
of
that
and
part
of
the
sponsors.
So
it's
you
know.
If
we're
not
ready
to
vote
on
it,
that's
okay,
too.
I
think
it
could
be
something
in
the
order
of
500,
and
so
it's
you
know
it
could
be
more.
If,
if
we
wanted
to
I
mean
we
could
do
five
hundred
dollars
and
fifty
dollar
prizes,
and
maybe
three
hundred
dollar
prizes
for
exceptional
entries,
you
know
I'm
not
sure
it.
H
B
My
understanding
was
that
we
didn't
need
to
do
anything
right
now
and
in
the
meantime,
I
did
contact
the
leadership
council
for
justice
accountability,
which
has
an
office
in
coachella,
because
in
our
last
meeting
we
thought
it
would
be
useful
to
have
them
support
us
in
terms
of
coming
up
with
guidelines
for
an
essay
contest
and
also
to
commit
to
be
judges.
B
I
haven't
yet
heard
from
them,
so
we
don't
even
know
if
they'll
be
available
or
they
will
help
us.
B
G
So
if
we
commit
to
just
being
sponsors,
I
think
that
the
details
can
be
worked
out.
If
you
know
any
commissioners
want
to
participate
in
being
judges,
you
know,
typically
in
the
art
contest
we've
had
the
commission
invited
to
participate
in
the
judging
aspect
of
it.
We've
invited
community
members
that
have
you
know
environmental
backgrounds,
so
it
could
be
a
lot
of
different
types
of
judges.
Whoever
is
inspired
to
participate
in
that
plus
we
have
the
environmental
education
collaborative,
which
is
fairly
large.
G
I
mean
just
the
board
alone
is
open,
I'm
sure
many
many
people
would
be
open
to
judging.
So
I
think
that
you
know
we
may
have
judges
in
those
three
different
categories.
So
there's
going
to
be,
you
know,
visual
arts,
what
we've
had
for
many
many
years.
There
will
be
a
spoken
word
option
which
will
also
be
grades
four
through
twelve
and-
and
you
know
adult
category
as
well
and
then
you
know
the
essay
contest,
and
you
know
perhaps
I
mean
I
don't
know
because
of
this
extra
funding.
G
We
may
be
able
to
do
a
poetry
contest
or
something
for
the
younger
kids
as
well,
so
that
if
they
wanted
to
do
a
literary
art
entry
that
may
be
possible,
so
I
mean
it
may
not.
We
may
not
need
to
decide
on
an
amount
that
we
want
to
sponsor,
but
maybe
if
we
could
get,
you
know
affirmation
that
everyone's
open
to
being
the
sponsor
and
at
least
committing
500,
if
not
more,
maybe
500
thousand
dollars
for
prizes,
then
I
think
that
we
could
just
at
least
have
our
logo
on
the
flyer.
G
You
know
which
would
you
know
and
opt
for
what
this
is
so,
and
I
like
that,
you
asked
you
know
the
environmental
justice
people
to
help
with
the
guidelines.
I
think
that
could
be
really
helpful
in
terms
of
writing
those
out
for
the
essay
contest,
but
what
you
know
what's
going
out
right
now,
you
may
be
even
just
like
a
save
the
date
to
think
about
is
announcing
the
three
competitions.
B
It's
so
if
I'm
criticality,
we
probably
should
have
a
motion
to
commit
some
funds
to
get
our
logo
on
the
flyer
and
to
to
get
this
to
get
this
moving.
I
think
there's
we
still
need
some
additional
participation
in
order
to
execute
this,
but
we
don't
want
to
miss
the
boat
so
to
speak,
and
so,
if
you
feel
that
we
need
to
get
started
now,
we
should
probably
have
a
motion
to
commit
some
some
funding,
maybe
not
the
prize
amounts
but
perhaps
just
to
get
involved
in
the
flyer,
get
included
in
the
flyer.
H
B
H
Okay,
I
would
like
to
move
that
the
sustainability
commission
approve
funding
not
to
exceed
750
for
prizes
and
for
it
to
be
a
budget
actually
for
participation
in
this
contest
or
contests.
B
A
A
It's
also
we're
also
working
on
getting
a
press
release
out
to
let
people
know
that
the
survey
is
out
there
and
really.
This
survey
is
designed
to
just
get
some
input
on
from
both
visitors
and
residents
about
their
pedestrian
experience
here
in
palm
springs
and
there's
a
mapping
tool
that
they
can,
where
they
can
identify
specific
places
where
they
think
are
problems
or
opportunities
for
enhanced
safety
so
anyway.
So
that
is
really
the
big
development
that
has
occurred
since
our
last
meeting.
A
Actually,
our
community
advisory
committee
met
right
after
we
met,
so
that
happened
too,
and
the
community
advisory
committee
is
quite
a
diverse
group
of
people
in
terms
of
perspective,
each
person
that
participated
really
had
some
great
insights
and
different
insights
about
pedestrian
issues.
So
it's
really
interesting
to
to
hear
them
talk,
and
so
I'm
hopeful
that
that
we'll
get
some
really
good
feedback.
Our
big
challenge
is
going
to
be
integrating
what
we've
already
heard
and
kind
of
balancing
near-term
actions
with
longer-term
kind
of
goals
for
that
effort.
A
F
I
have
nothing
for
tonight,
but
I
think
I
might
try
and
put
together
a
meeting
of
our
subcommittee
again
before
the
next.
Our
next
commission
meeting
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
came
up
with
talking
to
council
members,
so
but
nothing
else
to
report.
A
Really
we
met
for
the
first
time
and
we
kind
of
talked
through
the
various
plans
that
are
underway
right
now
and
important
connections
that
we've
got
with
the
general
plan
which
we're
going
to
be
exploring,
and
basically
the
next
steps
are
to
take
a
look
at
our
current
plan
activities
and
see
where
we
are
with
those
we've
got
a
little
matrix
that
we're
going
to
try
to
fill
out
for
that
analysis,
identify
how
how
we
want
to
dispose
of
topics.
A
So
if
there
are
items
in
our
current
strategic
plan,
we
want
to
keep,
we
want
to
keep
those
and
then,
if
there
are
things
that
we
need
to
transfer
to
other
departments,
we
should
do
that
and
then
what
do
we
just
kind
of
eliminate
altogether
for
whatever
reason
and
then
then
kind
of
once
we
have
that
more
refined
kind
of
set
of
ideas,
kind
of
reach
out
to
the
public
and
experts
to
get
inform
those
conversations
and
then
develop
some
goals
around
those
and
then
really
trying
to
figure.
A
Them
into
the
general
plan
and
how
what
what
we
need
to
do
to
have
both
kind
of
a
near-term
strategy,
as
well
as
the
longer-term
strategy
that
might
appear
in
the
general
plan.
So
I
think
that's
about
it.
We're
planning
on
moving
forward
with
some
of
those
discussions
in
january.
So.
E
All
right,
just
I
can
get
to
my
unmute
here
so
at
the
december
1st
ewa
meeting,
the
board
agreed
to
hold
off
rate
increases
until
june
2021
and
initiated
in
may
or
june
of
next
year.
The
rates
steady
required
under
proposition
28
to
it
to
me,
218
for
any
rate
increases
beginning
in
july
and
rate
increases,
would
be
needed
for
dwa
to
accelerate
the
replacement
of
its
pipelines,
43
of
which
are
beyond
their
expected
life
of
68
years.
Last
month,
dw
held
a
webinar
on
pipeline
replacement,
which
you
can
watch
on
their
website.
E
Dwa
is
working
with
the
city
and
the
other
coachella
valley,
water
agencies,
on
the
work
plan
for
assault
nutrient
management
plan
required
by
the
colorado
river,
regional
colorado,
river
basin,
regional
water
quality
control
board.
That
has
to
deal
with
the
city's
wastewater,
not
from
the
various
salt
and
nutrients
there
and
how
dwa
fits
in
and
then
finally,
dwa
and
its
customers
achieved
an
11.8
percent
reduction
in
potable
water
consumption
during
november
2020,
compared
to
the
same
month
in
the
2013
baseline
they're
working
to
update
the
2013
water
production
baseline.
E
Since
that's
the
metric
that
now
must
be
reported
to
the
state
water
resources
board
and
also
the
state
department
of
water
resources
has
approved
ewa's
method
of
calculating
seasonal
residents
in
the
population.
So
that's
good
news
that
taken
them
a
while.
So
that's
it
for
dwa.
C
We
didn't
have
a
chance
to
meet
yet
I
think
we're
gonna
try
and
get
together
before
the
end
of
the
month.
So
I'll
have
something
in
january.
On.
A
Just
as
an
aside
on
that
topic,
I
did
receive
a
phone
call
from
a
resident
about
smoking
in
multi-family
units
and
she
was
very
eager
to
see
this
proposal
or
ban
move
forward
and
her
ordinance
moved
forward,
and
I
did
send
her
the
packet
from
our
meeting,
where
we
would
just
where
we
discussed
both
of
those
options,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
if
she's
planning
on
writing,
counsel
or
not,
but
she
was
very
eager
for
something
to
move
forward
with
it.
So
anyway,
just
upload.
A
I
think
I
think
she's
good.
I
I
she
basically
had
a
question
that
I
was
able
to
answer
and
I
think
that
she
was
good.
I
think
she
was
just
very
here
to
have
something
happen,
so
if
I
find
her
info
I'll
forward
it
to
you.
E
At
its
meeting
next
monday,
the
dc
board
will
consider
approving
contracts
for
three
wind
projects
within
the
palm
springs
city
limits
near
the
freeway.
These
will
be
dca's
first
long-term
contracts
to
secure
renewable
energy
favorable
rates
and
will
lead
to
local
job
development.
I
was
part
of
the
rfo
review
team
and
we'll
make
a
public
comment
at
the
dc
board
meeting
in
favor
of
contracts.
E
The
first
six
months
of
the
service
dc's
carbon
free
customers
have
reduced
jt
emissions
by
more
than
12
000
metric
tons
of
ghg
each
month
and
the
equivalent
of
taking
15
000
cars
off
the
road
in
that
period
and
desert
saber
customers
have
served
as
he
may
have
saved
almost
twenty
thousand
two
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
same
period
and
these
numbers
were
included
in
the
state
of
city
report
and
also
council
member
of
course
mentioned
them.
E
Last
week
at
the
city
council
meeting
the
rate
stabilization
schedule
is
effective
starting
december
one.
The
new
rates
remain
within
the
parameters
set
by
city
council
dc
board,
which
is
about
a
zero
to
one
percent
average
total
bill
discount
of
dc
desert
saver
product
and
up
to
a
10
average
total
bill
premium
on
dc's
100
carbon
free
product
when
compared
to
sd's
average
total
base
product
bill
and
then
dc
will
post
the
updated
rate
comparison
table
and
the
new
rate
rail
rate
comparison
tool
on
its
website.
E
Next
month,
dc
staff
is
working
with
grid
alternatives
to
prepare
a
letter
on
city
letterhead
to
residents
of
affordable
housing
units
that
could
be
equipped
with
rooftop
solar
and
it's
coordinating
with
patrick
on
that
and
then
dc
staff
is
also
coordinating
with
patrick
to
publicize
the
new
sustainability
scholarship
that
patrick
mentioned,
and
and
also
the
home
energy
assessment,
a
rebate
program
that
also
launched
at
the
same
time
last
week
and
then.
E
Finally,
at
the
c-bag
level,
staff
was
working
on
the
inland
empire
regional
energy
network
business
plan
that
will
be
filed
with
cpuc
next
month
and,
if
approved
by
the
cpuc
we'd,
have
a
regional
energy
network
to
start
in
2022
and
that's
it
for
dc
and
the
board
meetings
next
monday
at
2,
30
or
whoever
would
like
to
you,
know,
dial
in.
B
Thank
you
and
the
final
item
on
our
agenda
is
commissioner
comments
and
upcoming
agenda,
as
always,
we'll
go
through
the
list
not
around
the
table
and,
and
anybody
has
any
additional
comments
or
suggestions
for
the
upcoming
agenda.
This
is
the
time
for
it
and
please
keep
your
comment
to
about
a
minute.
B
We'll
start
with
commissioner
mccann.
B
B
I
think
he
may
have
left
commissioner
baker.
C
F
G
G
But
if
you
all
might
consider
we
could
vote
on
this
next
month
to
maybe
increase
it
to
900,
we
would
have
550
each
for
the
fourth
grade
through
adults,
best
of
those
categories
and
then
a
hundred
dollars
for
grades
four
through
six,
seven
through
nine,
nine
through
12
and
then
adult
so
it's
you
know
150
dollars
extra.
If
we
could
just
decide
on
that
for
next
time,
it
might
be
nice
to
have
like
the
grand
prizes.
So
that's
all.
B
It's
important
that
we
we
get
a
start
right
now
we
and
not
wait
until
the
next
meeting
and
if
we
do
need
to
make
adjustments,
that'd
be
great,
and
perhaps
you
can
put
together
a
little
bit
more
specific
proposal
outlining
what
you
just
said.
D
I've
been
aware
of
the
arbor
day
foundation,
but
I
didn't
know
a
whole
lot
about
them
and
I'd
looked
into
it
recently
and
I
wanted
to
discuss
it
with
jennifer's,
maybe
something
that
we
could
do
with
world
environmental
day.
But
they
have
a
program
that
they
call
tree
city
where
you
get
a
status
as
a
tree
city,
our
neighbors
temecula
and
the
city
of
riverside
both
have
that
status.
D
I
don't
know
if
there's
costs
other
than
actually
the
planting
trees
or,
if
you're,
just
making
a
commitment
to
planting
a
certain
amount
of
trees
over
a
certain
amount
of
time.
But
if
it's
of
interest
I'll
pursue
this
and
see
what
it
takes,
because
it's
a
friendly
good
thing
and
if
we
want
air,
we
need
plants
and
trees.
So
it
seems
like
kind
of
a
good
thing
and
we'll
see
if
there's
what
the
expenses.
D
Absolutely
so,
apparently
they
have
this.
You
know
all
over
so
depending
on
where
you
are,
if
you're
in
washington,
state
or
arizona
your
your
tree
selection
is
quite
different,
so
they
just
will
give
you
that
status
based
on
whatever
region
you're
in
via
palm
trees,
or
you
know,
pine
trees.
So
but
it's
it's
a
it's
a
user-friendly
thing
and
it
certainly
sounds
good
to
be
a
tree
city
and
we
are
named
after
trees.
After
all,
here.
F
Sandra
can,
I
also
add,
I
would
love
to
have
shade
trees,
downtown
and
I've
been
looking
all
over
front
and
the
chilean
mesquite
tree
is
my
number
one
favorite,
but
we
need
we're
going
to
need
shade
in
the
summer
and
coming
up
with
the
way
the
temperatures
are
going
crazy.
So
at
least
a
couple
of
shade
trees
would
really
get
me
happy.
C
H
We
need
the
benefits
of
trees,
whether
it's
a
palm
tree
or
as
we
found
out
an
elephant's
food,
it's
called
elephant's
food,
it's
a
kind
of
a
of
a
cactus
or
kind
of
a
succulent.
Actually,
we
need
as
much
as
we
can
and
as
much
as
would
will
tolerate
our
climate.
We
live
in
the
desert.
That's
true,
but
trees
don't
mean
that
we
don't
live
in
the
desert
and
I
definitely
support
as
much
tree
life
as
we
can
here
in
preparation
for
what
we're
looking
towards
it
in
the
not
too
distant
future.
C
The
the
planning
commission
has
that
high
in
their
agenda,
so
all
new
projects
there's
a
requirement
for
for
every.
I
forget
how
many
parking
spaces
there
has
to
be
a
tree
for
all
new
developments.
They
have.
The
boundaries
have
to
have
green,
so
planning
commission's
all
over
that
just
leave
it
at
that.