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Want
to
post!
Thank
you,
okay,
so
this
is
a
public
meeting
at
this
time.
We
open
the
microphone
for
any
comments
that
is
purview
to
this
committee.
If
you
are
here
to
comment
on
a
very
specific
project
and
we
wait
until
the
project
comes
up.
Otherwise,
if
there's
any
comments
for
this
committee
to
listen
to,
please
do
so
at
this
time.
G
G
H
E
Once
again,
good
afternoon
to
members
of
the
AAC,
so
this
item
has
been
presented
to
you
on
three
other
occasions.
The
first
time
was
on
June
4th.
Second
time
was
July
16th
and
the
last
time
it
came
before
you
was
September
17.
At
that
meeting
there
was
no.
There
was
no
coal
run
by
the
AC
to
take
an
action
on,
however,
comments
and
directions
were
provided
to
the
act
to
the
applicant.
E
So,
specifically,
those
those
comments
were
related
to
the
front
slope
and
the
rear
overhang,
and
also
you
directed
the
a
patent
to
indicate
where
the
the
solar
panels
will
be
on
on
the
roof
of
the
of
the
proposed
house.
You
also
commented
on
the
number
of
Lighting's
that
were
provided.
Stop
had
noted
that
those
Lighting's
were
in
X
were
too
excessive
and
they
seemed
to
be
too
cause
to
create
glare
and
and
and
I
searched.
The
applicant
has
revised
the
the
plan.
E
So
the
item
that
you
have
before
you
today
indicate
that
the
applicant
has
removed
the
large
overhang
in
the
rear
and
also
changed
the
slanting
roof
of
the
house.
The
applicant
has
also
revised
the
landscape.
You
mentioned
in
the
last
meeting
that
the
large
white
rocks
be
removed,
those
would
be
removed
and
will
be
replaced
by
great
crushed
rocks.
The
applicant
has
also
read
a
reduced
the
amount
of
lighting
both
front
and
rear
of
the
house.
E
The
numbers
have
been
reduced
from
seven
to
four
consistent
with
staffs
recommendation
so
because
of
that
staff
will
be
recommending
that
the
a/c
make
a
recommendation
of
approval
to
the
Planning
Commission
which
to
conditional
that
staff
is
proposing.
However,
should
the
ASC
find
it
necessary
to
add
a
lot
to
make
additional
recommendations
of
conditional
staff
who
carried
those
to
the
Planning
Commission,
so
decided
to
conditions
that
staff
is
recommending.
E
The
first
one
is
relative
to
the
other
lighting
levels
that
the
condition
should
read
that
the
outdoor
lighting
levels
for
fixtures
are
located
in
overhang
recess
or
landscape
area
shall
not
exceed
one
thousand
lumens
so
as
to
not
promote
excessive
glare
or
brightness.
The
second
condition
will
be
that
the
solar
to
be
roof
mounted
and
placed
in
a
way
that
will
not
detract
from
the
building
from
the
building's
architecture,
so
that
would
be
staff
presentation.
The
applicant
is
here
to
make
a
presentation
to
the
committee
also,
and
staff
is
available
to
answer
your
questions.
G
E
E
Exactly
so,
do
we
the
way
that
we
enforced
on
the
light
ordinance
is
usually
based
on
complaints?
When
that
happens,
we
send
out
code
enforcement
usually
late
in
the
evening,
so
that
the
accurate
measurement
could
be
taken
and.
B
G
E
E
G
E
B
E
A
Excuse
me
Edward,
as
I.
Look
at
the
grading
plan
they're
doing
grading
off
of
their
property
on
the
east
side.
Is
that
allowable
and
then
also
on
the
west
side
on
the
property
line.
They
have
a
ten
foot
tall
property
line
wall
because
the
adjacent
grade
is
down
at
six
hundred
and
the
top
of
wall
is
six.
Ten
is
that
height
of
a
side
yard
wall
allowable
within
our.
D
A
As
you
look
at
the
precise
grading
plan,
you
can
see
in
the
upper
right
corner
that
they're
modifying
the
grading
on
the
property
to
the
east
of
this
property
and
they
have
their
property
line
wall
and
that's
shown
on
their
site
section
and
then
on
the
west
side.
If
you
look
at
the
grades,
the
adjacent
lot
is
basically
at
elevation,
600
and
they're,
calling
out
the
top
of
the
wall
here
at
six
ten
point
five,
so
that
would
be
a
ten
and
a
half
foot
wall
measured
from
the
west
property.
E
A
E
C
We've
also
created
a
trash
area.
That
was
one
of
the
questions
in
the
last
meeting,
so
we
added
a
door
leading
from
the
outside
of
the
garage
to
the
side
yard.
We've
also
added
some
sconce
lighting,
which
is
required
by
code.
So
you
can
see
those
on
the
render.
So
you
have
a
visual
for
that,
and
we've
also
added
the
direct
vent
for
the
fireplace
which
was
another
concern.
C
That's
showing
actually
see
it
on
this
up
view
as
well
off
to
the
side
there
next
adjacent
to
the
left
of
the
solar
panels
on
the
wall,
so
that
is
in
a
location
that
would
not
be
seen
from
lower
areas.
I
think
that's!
That's
it.
Oh.
We
also
revised
the
grading
plan
based
on
the
comments
from
the
meeting.
C
C
Specific
per
the
manufacturers
on
the
bulb,
so
when
we
talk
about
lumens,
250,
lumens
per
bulb
would
be
kind
of
insufficient.
That's
not
capable
of
creating
much
light
at
all,
so
250
lumens
is
inappropriate
to
request
that,
as
it's
almost
serves
as
a
non-functioning
light
I
think
if
you
look
at
most
landscape
lights,
that
are
equivalent
to
maybe
a
30
or
40
watt
bulb
those
produce
about.
C
300
lumens
and
they're
quite
dim,
so
to
put
an
overhead
light
in
an
upper
soffit
to
illuminate
the
area
outside
of
your
door,
you're,
probably
going
to
need
a
light
bulb
of
around
500
lumens
to
be
a
minimum.
Anything
below
that
would
be
insufficient,
especially
something
that's
higher
up
in
a
an
overhang.
For
example,.
D
F
Tomforde
1635
Ridge,
more
Drive,
just
reviewing
the
plant
I
reviewing
the
plans,
I
see
the
four
lights
outside,
but
we
don't
see
any
of
these
on
the
inside,
which
I
think
should
have
been
on
the
plans.
If
this
is
where
everyone
well,
there's
gonna,
be
five
of
these
houses
facing
Ridge,
more
Drive
and
it's
like
14
feet
of
glass
by
maybe
50
when
you've
totaled
it
all
up
for
at
each
house.
So
it's
a
lot
of
cans
that
we
can
see,
and
so
we
would
have
liked
to
see
those
on
the
plans.
F
You
know
for
this
project
to
move
forward
and
I
like
all
the
changes
that
have
been
done.
Those
are
great
from
the
other
projects
I've
seen
on
mr.
Foster's
website.
There's
he
uses
a
lot
of
cans
in
his
living
space
because
it's
such
a
large
area
and
we're
just
very
concerned
that
it's
going
to
be
like
five
light
boxes
facing
us
and
it's
also
going
to
disrupt
the
the
life
you
know
this
is
on
a
hillside.
F
It
used
to
be
a
wildlife
preserve,
it's
a
lamb,
that's
wildlife,
stuff,
there's
big
horn,
sheep,
there's
lots
of
other
stuff,
and
we
just
don't
want
a
big
lot
of
light
spilling
out
and
we're
supposed
to
have
a
dark
skies
policy.
So
we
want
it
really
concerned
about
how
much
lights
gonna
come
off
for
these
houses.
I
know,
there's
a
photometric
plan
that
you
can
do
that
does
lighting
levels
for
the
entire
lot
and
ten
feet
beyond
the
borders.
F
I
think
this
is
an
LZ
one,
so
I
don't
know
which
has
some
concerns
about
artificial
light.
So
that's
we're
just
concerned
about
having
all
these
the
light
boxes
up
there
and
we
appreciative
of
the
changes
that
he's
already
done.
But
since
we
can't
they're
not
since
the
plans
aren't
showing
the
the
inside
of
the
house,
if
there's
no
cans,
that's
great
but
I
think
they
should
have
been
on
the
thing
just
so
we
can,
since
we
see
in
these
windows
all
these
lights
from
below,
but
we
should
know
what's
going
to
happen
there.
F
D
F
Before
my
name
is
Rene,
Glickman
and
I
live
at
3413
and
Reyes
Hills
Drive
and
which
would
be
along
around
the
corner.
From
this
first
lot,
I've
been
up
there
and
from
the
lot
I
can
see
my
a
bedroom
window
in
my
house
on
Andreas
Hills
Drive.
So
my
concern
is
about
the
lighting
a
lot
of
the
things
you
said
we're
just
way
over
my
head,
very
technical
about
grading,
etc,
but
I
am
concerned.
It
is
just
in
a
really
natural
area.
The
homes
that
are
up
there
presently
sit
into
the
environment.
F
You
don't
see
lights
at
all
and
I
guess.
That
is
what
my
really
my
main
concern
is,
so
it's
not
just
going
to
affect
the
people
on
Sevilla,
but
it's
going
to
affect
the
people
on
your
street
for
sure.
I
could
look
right
down
from
there
and
it's
going
to
affect
that
Street
and
then
I
was
shocked
to
see
that
it
was
even
going
to
affect
me
over
an
Andreas
Hills
Drive.
Oh
that's
why
I'm
here
today
and
thank
you
for
this
time.
You.
D
I
C
I
So
I
would
like
that
to
be
before
the
city
before
you
approve
this,
because,
frankly,
they
don't
have
they.
They
can't
vote
for
their
own
project
I
in
our
current
homeowners
association,
bylaws
I,
and
until
you
have
that
I
think
that's
critically
important,
but
the
architecture
has
changed
and,
most
importantly,
the
colors
change
and
that's
how
this
process
works.
It's
a
little
rough.
D
C
C
I
mean
people
need
lights
inside
their
house,
they
have
to
live
in
their
house,
but
if
these
people
want
to
buy
these
Lots
and
preserve
them
as
open
space,
they
can
do
that
and
we
don't
have
to
go
through
any
of
this,
but
no
one
stepped
up
to
do
that
and
the
constant
obstructions
to
try
and
move
forward
over
things
that
are
petty
or
unreasonable.
So
these
complaints
that
are
being
thrown
up
to
us
can
be
thrown
back
to
them.
C
D
C
C
Actually,
the
architectural
committee
member
making
claims
like
that
created
a
lot
of
this
problem,
and
although
we've
made
numerous
attempts
to
tell
people
that
we've
never
proposed
anything
like
that,
we
need
to
move
on.
This
is
something
that
should
we
shouldn't
be
wasting
our
time
on
any
further.
It's
unnecessary,
see
their
houses
get
built
or
they
don't
and
there's
going
to
be
lighting,
there's
no
way
around
it.
Okay,.
H
So
when
I
look
at
sheet
a
1.1,
which
is
your
site
plan,
you
show
from
the
farthest
corner
of
the
house,
the
South
corner
to
the
property
line
is
twenty
five
six
and
then
on
your
site,
section,
which
is
page
a
five
point.
One
I'm
assuming
it's
the
same
corner
of
the
house
and
you
have
it
at
plus
or
minus
twenty
one
feet.
C
H
D
C
C
C
C
H
It's
s
the-the-the.
The
discrepancy
is
that
on
your
renderings,
you
show
a
wall
that
looks
like
it's
all
capped
at
the
same
height
along
the
west
side
and
reality
under
the
precise
grading
plan
it
looks
like
it
must
step
at
least
5
feet
in
the
front
yard,
setback
somewhere
and
and
then
there's
a
question
of
the
relationship
to
the
adjacent
grades.
Where
it
some
point,
it
could
be
as
much
as
10
feet
above
the
grade.
This.
D
Yeah
Gabby,
the
last
agave.
Okay,
then
look
at
the
wall,
that's
behind
the
agave
Yeah
right
now
it
shows
a
typical
five
foot
wall
and
then
what
it
shows
is
that
in
about
two
foot
increments,
two
foot
increments
of
four-
you
jump
from
a
five
foot
to
attempt
foot
wall.
So
where
that
tree
canopy
is,
you
will
see
a
10
foot
wall
behind
that.
C
Yes,
I'm,
not
that's,
not
something
that
I
can
answer:
I'm,
not
I've,
never
intended
to
be
a
10
foot
wall
there
and
I,
don't
see
any
reason
for
it
to
be
a
10
foot
wall
I
mean
if
it's
10
foot
you
mean
from
the
are
you
saying
that
the
wall
might
be
on
this
side,
you're
saying
it
exposed
to
10
feet
or
this
side?
Well.
H
G
Yeah
the
grade
also
it
looks
like
the
topo-
shows
a
grade
of
600
from
roughly
a
line
parallel
with
the
front
yard
setback
and
that
600
pod
goes
all
the
way
back
to
I'm
gonna,
say
this
south
edge
of
a
plane
created
by
the
south
end
of
that
circular
grass
pod
in
the
rear.
So
this,
let's
just
call
it
for
argument's
sake,
85
feet
of
grades
at
600
and
you've
got
a
top
of
wall.
I
mean
it's
written
here,
pretty
clearly
six
ten
point:
five.
So
ten
and
a
half
feet,
I.
C
G
G
D
E
Know
I
was
gonna
comment
on
that,
so
perhaps
we
can
move
on
to
the
main,
the
architecture
of
the
main
building
and
the
changes
that
have
been
made
so
to
when
our
teachings
could
be
done.
You
know
the
first
one
is
that
you
could
recommend
the
condition
that
that
was
the
height
of
that
the
maximum
height
of
the
wall
shall
not
exceed
six
foot
that's
number
one
before
and
that
has
to
be
revised.
E
D
F
D
G
E
D
Think
I
think
Sean
would
like
to
have
this
opportunity
to
ask
mr.
Foster
some
of
the
concepts
on
those
walls
designs,
and
then
we
also
want
to
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
the
questions
on
the
architecture
and
then
we'll
see
how
we
move
on
from
there.
Okay,
okay
could
I
go
back
to
remember.
Robert
do.
Did
you
have
any
questions.
G
B
G
Tell
you
where
I'm
going
with
us
and
I'll
cut
right
to
the
chase
is
some
of
the
grading
or
the
site,
walls
that
face
the
down
slope
and
the
rest
of
the
valley
and
the
city,
and
not
just
one
or
two
or
three
but
hundreds
of
your
neighbors
down
there.
Is
it
I'm
wondering
how
the
slopes
are
gonna
get
Renate
relized?
Are
those
walls
or
fences?
G
What
you're
doing
about
that?
If
anything
and
about
that
I
mean
the
retaining
wall
at
the
southwest
corner,
I,
don't
see
anything
but
wall,
but
maybe
I'm
missing
a
fence
call
out
that
I
don't
see
on
here
along
the
South,
the
pool
wall.
What
that
looks
like,
and
it
will
some
of
that
beery
naturalised
or
what
do
these
slopes?
Look
like
all
along
the
south,
the
pool
of
the
spa,
the
retaining
wall
at
the
southwest
corner,
the
southeast
corner?
What
are
you
doing
right
in
there?
Is
there
any
measure?
Renate
relies
some
of
that
slope.
G
C
Maybe,
to
put
your
mind
at
rest
on
this
Alan
Sanborn
started
this
project
originally
and
I.
Don't
know
if
any
of
you've
had
the
opportunity
to
go
to
the
site,
but
it's
a
combination
of
steel
fence,
tube
steel,
fencing
boulders
and
retaining
walls
and
other
cut
rock
I've
been
there.
Maybe
it's
okay,
so
you're
familiar
with
it,
so
Alan
is
maintaining
those
conditions
throughout
the
community.
So
he's
he's
the
most
aware
out
of
anybody
additions
at
the
site
and
he
understands
all
the
details.
C
I'm,
probably
not
the
right
person
to
be
answering
all
of
these
questions,
but
my
conversations
with
Alan
are
clear
on
the
attempt
to
be
consistent
with
the
community,
meaning
boulders,
steel,
tube,
fencing
and,
of
course,
block
walls,
some
stucco
and
some
exposed
natural
gray
and
the
grading
I
think
you're
concerned
you're
talking
about
someone
seeing
a
big
wall
from
this
side
like
10
feet.
Well,.
C
C
Hoa
strip
that
runs
through
here
so
that
could
be
between
a
lot
two
and
one
so
that
area
could
be
built
up
and
sloped
down
to
where
you
don't
have
these
high
wall
conditions.
And
if
you
look
at
the
community
there
now
there
are
some
fairly
good-sized
block
walls
and
excuse
me
retaining
walls
done
out
of
boulders
and
things
like
that,
which
is
not
uncommon,
but
we
do
understand
the
necessity
to
try
and
not
have
massive
retaining
walls.
It's
not
something
we've
ever
intended
to
do.
Nor
do
we
want
to.
C
C
C
G
C
G
C
West,
that
is
correct
to
some
extent,
but
this
area
here
I,
don't
know
what
that
that
area,
what
it
boils
down
to
and
feed
if
it's
20
feet
or
15
feet
or
whatever,
and
then
the
next
house
here
so
reality
is
when
a
house
get
built
what
a
house
is
built
there.
You
know
someone
looking
up
and
across
I
mean
whatever
you
see
down,
the
I
would
not
be
as
noticeable
as
well
as
here.
If
a
house
gets
built
next
to
this,
then
a
lot
of
these
conditions
do
go
away.
C
G
So
maybe
we
just
had
something
in
conditions
of
approval
for
reen,
a
chiral
izing,
some
of
the
slower
a
certain
percentage
of
these
slopes
up
to
a
certain
height,
along
that
south
east
and
west
side,
completely
re-examine
the
two
two
walls
that
are
on
there.
Otherwise
I'm
just
hearing
just
sambar.
We
got
it
under
control,
I.
C
G
C
G
G
G
G
Here
it
doesn't
take
into
account
the
roof
slope
where
the
roof
materials
that
get
built
up
onto
it
and
so
right
now
what
I
see
on
the
drawings
is
a
one-foot
differential
between
the
top
of
the
parapet
and
the
top
of
the
roof,
and
then
I
see
solar
panels.
Lain
neatly
nicely
flat
down
on
top
of
the
roof
sheathing
which
isn't
quite
reality.
We
know
they're
going
to
be
tilted
up
towards
the
south,
presumably
and
and
on
top
of
rails
and
stanchions.
G
So
I
wonder
if
one
foot
is
enough
of
a
parapet
or
should
we
set
them
back
a
bit
further?
The
only
downside
of
that
is
you
yourself.
In
your
introduction
mentioned.
You
have
no
idea
how
many
solar
panels
we're
gonna
put
on
here,
yeah,
which
sounds
perfectly
fair,
but
I
think
and
it'd
be
tough
to
just
locate
them
in
a
center
zone,
we're
knowing
that
did
before
they
weren't
far
away
from
the
you
know,
the
view
corridor
from
down
lower
in
the
valley
any
ideas
or
objections
to
well.
C
Apparently,
yeah,
not
a
hundred
percent
sure,
but
I
do
believe.
The
slope
from
front
to
back
is
almost
two
feet.
We
put
the
solar
panels
at
that
area
because,
with
the
roof
naturally
sloping
it
will
help.
If
there's
additional
solar
panels
in
this
direction,
then
those
could
be
tilted
the
other
way,
because
they're
gonna
have
nearly
two
feet
of
slope
on
that
roof.
C
We
don't
have
any
idea
what
somebody's
going
to
do
in
the
future
and
someone
you
know
someone
may
come
in
and
take
every
every
part
of
this
roof
and
put
solar
panels
on
it.
We
don't
have
any
control
of
that.
Nor
are
we
going
to
contemplate
that
we
want
the
house
to
have
reasonable
high
ceilings
if
the,
if
there's
some
sort
of
variance
where
we
could
raise
the
height
of
the
building,
to
create
taller
parapets
we'd
be
willing
to
do
that.
C
But
that's
going
to
have
to
be
something
that
would
need
to
be
agreed
upon
by
the
city,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
in
reality
for
a
house
of
this
size,
someone
would
end
up
putting
that
many
solar
panels
on
that's.
Why
we
look
at
this
top
area
here
and
that
could
produce
an
enormous
amount
of
power
to
run
that
house.
It
could
probably
be
Net
Zero.
C
C
C
C
Area
yes
and
the
roof.
What
you're
seeing
here
on
the
rendering
is
just
showing
it
flat?
We
didn't
spend
the
time
showing
the
roof
slopes
because
it
shouldn't
be
necessary.
We've
never
had
anybody
asked
for
that,
but
these
solar
panels
on
the
top-
and
if
you,
if
you
look
it's
a
lot
of
the
new
mounting
systems,
they're
they're,
really
shallow,
those
would
probably
be
no
more
than
six
inches
above
the
roof
plane
and
in
some
in.
F
G
C
C
Do
know
that
yeah,
ok,
right
and
that's
fine,
because
it'll
capture
the
Sun
throughout
the
day,
so
the
solar
companies
will
tilt
they're,
not
necessarily
gonna
tilt
them
all
the
same
direction.
They
can
tilt
some
solve
some
southeast
and
so
forth
to
pick
up
the
the
Sun.
So
that's
going
to
be
them
their
requirement
on
what
they
think
is
going
to
produce
the
most
efficiency
for
the
solar
panels,
but
the
roof
parapet
should
would
be
enough.
There's
no
there's
no
way.
C
C
C
Houses
below
won't
see
those
solar
panels,
I
don't
see
how
they
could
unless
the
solar
panels
were
really
tilted
up,
buying
a
site,
I
mean
you'd
have
to
have
them
tilted
up.
You
know
at
a
45
degree
angle
and
the
best
they
might
see
the
bottom
edge,
but
that's
not
going
to
be
how
solar
panels
are
mounted.
We,
the
current
house,
designs
that
we're
doing
that.
We
have
solar
panels
on
they're,
very,
very
shallow
pitch
and
they
are
mounted
low
to
the
roof
years
ago.
C
B
Thank
you,
so
mr.
foster
I'm
still
a
little
confused
on.
What's
the
status
with
approval
with
your
HOA,
can
you
can
you
enlighten
us
a
little
bit
on
that
outside?
We
had
a
reference
made
to
the
an
architectural
review
committee
that
was
disbanded
and
I
didn't
get
really.
The
answer
to
the
question
that
I
was
looking
for
is:
is
the
HOA
okay,
with
what
we
have
in
front
of
us?
Yes,.
C
The
HOA
is
okay,
with
the
design
that
we
presented
they're
happy
with
the
modifications
the
neighbors
are
happy
with
the
color
choices.
The
representation
of
the
HOA
being
disbanded
is
incorrect.
What
happened
as
they
were,
abusing
their
authority
and
coming
up
with
their
own
rules,
saying
they
have
60
days
to
respond
when
the
CC
NRSA
45
days,
so
the
board
president
decided
to
become
active
and
straighten
everything
out
to
resolve
the
problems
and
stop
the
obstruction.
Stop
the
nonsense,
focus
on
the
facts
and
get
this
thing
done
rather
than
us
getting
absolutely
nowhere.
C
B
B
Super
and
I
think
my
other
question
was
already
answered,
so
I'm
good.
A
A
One
of
them
is
that
on
the
site
plan
you're
showing
the
electric
meter
and
the
gas
meter
behind
a
wall
that
comes
across
the
side
yard,
but
when
you
look
at
the
exterior
elevations
you're,
showing
the
meters
in
front
of
that
wall
so
that
they
would
be
visible
from
the
street
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
equipment
is
behind
the
side,
yard
garden
wall
so
that
it's
not
visible
from
the
street.
We
go.
C
A
C
A
Ok,
second:
question:
on
looking
at
the
site
plan
on
the
back
side
of
the
swimming
pool.
It
shows
a
walking
surface
along
the
back
of
the
pool
that
looks
like
it's
probably
three
or
four
feet
wide
and
when
you
look
at
that
walking
surface
on
the
grading
plan,
it's
five
feet
above
the
adjacent
grade.
I
believe
you
need
a
guardrail
there
so
that
somebody
can't
fall
off
that
walking
surface
to
the
ground
below
I.
C
A
C
And
I
think
we
I
don't
I
think
originally
we
started
with
infinity
edge
and
it
was
a
problem
with
that
on
the
setbacks
because
of
the
depth
of
the
trough
and
so
forth.
But
but
that
is
a
good
point.
But
if
that
coping
were
maybe
reduced
to
18
inches,
then
it
would
be
18
inches
but
isn't
I
think
there's
some
five
feet
of
flat
area
behind
the
pool.
C
A
Well,
the
reason
I
mention
it
now
is
I
know
that
that's
the
code,
so
I
know
that
you're
gonna
need
a
guardrail,
and
so
what
we're
seeing
doesn't
really
represent.
What's
going
to
be
built
and
I
think
the
more
that
we
can
see
the
accurate
collection
of
pieces
that
are
going
to
make
this
project
I
think
the
more
accurate
we
can
be
in
our
review.
So.
C
A
C
Could
look
out
their
window
and
see
an
offense
instead
of
having
it
below
it?
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
trade
off
the
other
homes
in
the
community.
They
don't
have
any
fences
in
the
back.
So
you
know
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
likely.
If
we
put
the
fence
there,
then
somebody
will
remove
it.
If
we
leave
it
where
it's
at
it
will
stay
where
it's
you
know
not
directly
in
there
of
you.
Well.
E
C
D
D
C
D
D
Your
instead
of
diminishing
your
composition,
which
your
fascia
line,
in
which
now
it's
one
of
your
critical
components,
which
ties
in
the
garage
back
to
this
fifteen
foot,
six,
sorry,
18,
foot,
high
parapet,
so
you're
going
from
zero
to
18
foot
and
now
you're
you're
having
that
flat
roof
as
being
your
transitional
plane
and
instead
of
diminishing
and
making
it
weak
just
pulling
it
18
inches
forward
and
squaring
that
off
is
saying:
okay,
I'm
I'm!
Here
it's
a
it's
a
roof
line
that
you
should
pay
attention
to.
I.
C
C
D
C
Talking
about
no
I
understand
and
we've
we've
done
and
that's
a
good
point
how
they
terminate
and
I
understand
that,
but
we
could
accommodate
the
the
termination
appropriately
either
way,
because
even
if
we
come
out
18
inches
we're
still
going
to
have
that
the
vertical
plane
meeting
the
horizontal
plane.
So
we
still
have
the
same
issue,
whether
it's
here
or
18,
inches
out
and
behind
that.
D
C
D
D
I'm,
just
gonna
come
out
and
straight
ahead,
they
in
my
opinion,
in
order
to
be
in
composition
with
the
building.
They
need
to
be
about
another
four
feet
out
with
the
steel
to
post
coming
on
to
that
corner.
So
what
happens
now
is
that
these
lower
rules
are
further
composed
by
these
patio
structures
that
are
enforcing
your
lower
wings
in
comparison
to
your
18-foot
high-ass
I.
D
C
D
C
C
D
C
We
have
the
r8
stucco
conditions
which
looks
similar
to
this,
and
that's
a
nice
backdrop
to
have
the
Ocotillo
against
that
surface.
So,
and
a
big
canopy
tree
here
would
end
up
hitting
the
overhang,
because
this
is
not
showing
the
overhang
above
so
I.
Don't
think
that
would
be
appropriate
to
put
in
that
area.
C
These
trees,
here,
as
you
know,
will
get
quite
large
over
time
and
I
just
conditions
and
the
size
of
the
lot.
It
just
seems
a
bit
overbearing,
I
think
the
maca
Tio's
and
the
boulders
and
the
agape
and
the
art.
The
turf
area
here
would
have
a
real
nice
feel
to
direct
you
to
the
front
door.
I,
don't
like
the
idea
of
having
a
lot
of
messy
trees.
We
originally
had
palm
trees,
as
you
know,
but
those
are
not
allowed.
So
we
remove
those
but
a
type
of
tree.
D
H
H
I
think
Minh
of
the
discussion
we
had
our
questions
we
had
I
think
we
really
do
need
to
get
more
information
on
the
site
walls
and
particularly
on
the
west
side.
It
does
seem
like
there's
a
10-foot
offset
and
that
is
not
appropriate
or
allowed
by
code.
So
I
think
we'd
like
to
see
something
come
back
with
that
stepped
and.
D
About
a
question
I
wanted
to
ask
applicant
real
quick.
If
you
can
get
back
to
microphone.
Sorry,
the
the
easement
or
the
piece
of
land
that
is
in
between
the
two
properties
I
understand
that
you
owned
that
all
three
of
them,
but
they're
theirs.
To
me.
On
the
on
the
grading
plan,
there
seems
to
be
a
property
line.
That's
20
feet
away
from
this
home
property
line
on
both
sides.
You
have
ownership
to
grade
those
properties
or
I'm;
sorry,
not
ownership.
You
have
you
have
authorization
to
grade
those
properties,
I
believe.
G
Sure
how
to
handle
some
of
these,
because
it
sometimes
feels
like
a
lack
of
creativity
on
the
applicant,
where
I
don't
think
we
were
giving
him
design
ideas
and
saying
move
the
the
fencing
in
towards
the
fence.
We
were
just
saying:
hey,
there's
a
there's,
an
issue
here
that
will
become
a
problem.
It
will
add
another
architectural
element
to
the
rear
of
the
house
along
the
pool
side.
If
it's
going
to
add
another
architectural
home,
and
what
does
that
element?
Look
like
to
me.
G
That's
the
question
so
sure
that's
something
that
would
come
up
in
in
building
and
safety,
but
maybe
we
should
look
at
it
now.
If
there's
going
to
be
a
guardrail,
it
adds
another
feature.
I'd
like
to
see
what
that
looks,
like
the
same
with
the
fencing,
the
reen
actualization
of
the
slope,
but
I'd
be
nice
to
see
some
plan
that
that
calls
out.
What's
what
the
action
item
is
to
be
done
there,
and
so,
if
someone
can
go
inspect
it
and
look
at
it
and
see
that
that's
been
done
also.
G
F
G
In
effect,
raise
the
height
of
the
parapet,
14
foot
to
16
foot
in
that
as
I,
look
at
that
small
volume
there
to
me.
That
seems
a
little
the
ample
room
to
be
able
to
do
something
like
that.
So
in
do
something
like
that,
meaning
lower
the
ceiling
height
slightly
to
gain
more
room
to
potentially
ensure
that
the
solar
panels
are
screened
when
they
do
get
angled
towards
the
South,
which
will
happen
for
sure
the
landscape
I'm
not
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
interested,
and
it's
okay.
If
other
members
are
in
tweaking
the
architecture.
G
I
am
grateful.
I
think
this
project
has
come
a
long
way
from
where
it
was
and
it's
to
me
that's
getting
there
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
pretty
close.
Now
it's
a
couple
of
tweaks
and
defining
the
impact
items
on
some
of
the
neighboring
properties
of
which
there
are
potentially
100.
The
you
know
south
of
this,
so
I
think
it's
a
worthy
exercise
to
be
here
in
discussing
this
project
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
also
that
I
think
it's
a
hillside
development.
G
Looks
me
to
another
thing:
I
believe,
there's
a
lighting
specification
that
calls
out
a
certain
amount
of
lumens
per
fixture
now
which
doesn't
necessarily
jive
with
with
what
we
were
discussing
earlier
so
I
think
I
think
we
ought
to
maybe
pay
attention
to
that
I'm.
Looking
at
all
these
fixtures
and
they
either
say
1200
lumens
or
a
thousand
lumens
each,
sometimes
twenty
five
hundred
four
thousand.
G
The
tweaking
of
eaves
I'm,
not
too
interested
in
partly
because
I
think
the
project
has
come
a
long
way
that
the
landscape
I
can
see
your
your
point,
Murray
I,
think
I,
know
where
you
were
going
with
that
and
in
that
the
pallets,
a
little
minimal
to
me
right
now.
I
would
think
that
again
as
a
lack
of
creativity
here,
if
palm
trees
were
the
desired
intent
there
initially
and
for
whatever
reason
there
they're
not
allowed,
which
may
be
a
great
thing
palm
trees
on
top
of
the
hill
there.
G
You
know
maybe
there's
something
else
like
a
grouping
of
bow
carnea
or
certain
height
minimum.
We
could
require
their
groupings
of
yucca
and
maybe
there's
a
crescendo
and
height
or
something
as
it
gets
near
that
wall
I
think
what's
specified
there
as
I.
Look
at
the
rendering
in
Ocotillo
is
gonna
have
a
tough
time
underneath
that
overhang
against
that
wall
anyway.
So
if
it's
a
desired
effect
of
some
shadow
thing
on
that
wall,
I
think
the
species
may
suffer
from
what's
specified
there
currently
I.
B
Think
members,
Walker
and
Rotman
had
summarized
pretty
well
what
I
had
in
mind.
I
I
would
also
like
to
thank
the
applicant,
might
see
you
from
here,
but
I
know
it's
a
lot
to
go
through,
but
again
it's
a
hillside
lot.
So
you
you
know
you
bite
off.
You
take
that
bite
and
you
have
to
you
have
to
deal
with
all
the
ramifications,
I.
Think
being
that
we're
talking
about
some
remaining
elements
and
changes
that
that
may
need
to
be
added.
B
If
there's
some
sort
of
change
in
the
fencing
or
the
rail
has
to
go
up
around
the
back
side
of
the
pool
or
anything
like
that,
what
happens
to
the
height
of
the
parapet
in
order
to
sufficiently
screen
the
the
solar
equipment
on
the
roof,
I
would
like
to
see
those
remaining
elements
and
changes
and
how
they
all
work
together
in
the
final
product.
So,
while
I
think
it's
come
a
long
way,
colors
are
better
that
some,
some
wonderful
improvements
have
been
made.
B
A
Agree
with
Kenny
that
I'm
sure
there's
going
to
be
changes
to
the
design
based
on
final
structural
design
and
issues
I'm.
One
obvious
example
is
that
overhang
above
the
clerestory
off
the
great
room.
If
you
look
at
it
on
the
section,
it's
not
a
cantilevered
overhang
it
just
projects
straight
out.
That's
a
lot
of
steel!
That's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
that
and
and
they're
showing
the
rough
structure.
It
looks
to
me
like
it's
one:
foot
thick
and
they're,
not
showing
any
slope
to
it.
A
Okay,
so
if
the
ceilings
flat,
then
it's
gonna
definitely
have
to
come
down
because
on
your
roof
plan,
you
show
two
and
a
half
feet
of
slope
from
right
to
left
as
I'm
looking
at
the
site
section
and
here
you're
showing
it
so
there's
some
inconsistencies.
There
also
I
question
the
ability
to
do
grading
in
the
common
area
off
site
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
say.
That
is
what
benefits
your
lot
by
grading.
A
In
that
side,
yard
is
going
to
be
detrimental
to
the
lot
above
it
or
the
lot
below
it,
because
they're
gonna
want
to
do
the
opposite
of
what
you
did.
So
is
it
the
first
one
in
gets
to
do
what
they
want
and
then
it
kind
of
affects
the
lot
adjacent
to
it.
I
think
one
of
the
the
basic
initial
challenges
here
is
you're,
taking
a
house
that's
designed
for
a
flat
lot
and
putting
it
on
a
hillside,
a
house
on
a
hillside.
Normally
the
floor
levels
would
vary.
A
There'd
be
different
things
that
let
the
house
reflect
the
sloping
yard
that
it's
on
the
only
way
you
can
change.
That
is
do
what
you
did
create
a
flat
pad
here,
but
then
you
need
to
show
us
more
effectively.
I
think
how
the
supporting
retaining
walls
would
work
and
then,
lastly,
on
the
landscape
as
I
look
at
the
landscape
plan,
we
have
to
realize
that
the
ground
is
sloping
from
the
edge
of
the
house
towards
the
street
anywhere
from
two
to
six
feet.
A
So
all
of
those
different
shapes
and
circles
and
variety
of
materials
are
gonna,
be
kind
of
as
a
picture,
and
it
just
looks
too
busy
to
me
a
half
round
of
grass
and
then
the
quarter
round
of
grass
and
the
pattern
of
barrel
cactus,
there's
just
so
many
things
going
on
that
I,
don't
think
really
relate
to
each
other.
Now.
I
will
admit
that
this
is
by
far
the
biggest
front
yard
and
the
entire
development,
most
of
them
there's
ten
feet
or
so
from
the
curb
to
the
house
of
the
landscaping,
is
awfully
minimal.
A
I
just
think
they
worked
this
one
a
little
too
hard.
I
think
it
could
be
simplified
and
I
love
the
thoughts
of
some
groups
of
plan
to
get
some
height
elevation
changes
and
things
so
that
that
may
be.
The
variety
to
this
front
yard
is
established
by
groups
of
plantings
instead
of
artificial,
geometric
forms
that
are
done
with
steel
bend.
Their
boards
and.
A
D
E
D
Typically
on
sites
like
this
is
either
you
step
it
within
the
building
and
you
create
interesting
change
of
levels
or
you
really
split
the
difference
between
the
two
sides,
and
so
then,
instead
of
mounting
it
from
one
side
and
then
retaining
it
from
the
other.
You
do
partial
of
that
mitigation
within
your
site
as
well,
but
because
the
building
is
so
wide,
there's
not
a
lot
of
room
on
the
side
to
even
do
that.
D
D
So,
but
what
to
me
what
it
seems
that
is
that
we
seen
other
Hill
sites
projects
in
which
there
is
no
continual
10-foot
walls,
12-foot
walls
they
do
have
to
be
designed.
Much
like
Sean
has
gone
through,
and
also
sean
has
recommended
to.
Other
applicants
in
this
case
is
that
it
has
to
be
fully
designed,
but
to
separate
individual
walls
with
planting
areas
on
each
side.
So
I
think
here,
where
the
weakness
now
it
relies
in
is
how
do
we
design
the
remaining
of
the
site
outside
of
the
building
footprint?
D
So
we
would
have
to
either
say
the
solar
system
has
to
be
such
that
it's
no
more
than
10
inches
in
full
assembly
or
we
have
to
say
we
have
to
reduce
the
top
of
the
sheathing
of
that
box
to
be
16
6
or
it's
some
dimension,
or
to
say
that
the
applicant
needs
to
provide
studies
and
cut
sections
in
which
those
panels
will
not
be
seen
from
lower
elevations.
So.
D
I'm
I'm,
looking
at
this
in
three
portions
one
is
the
architecture.
Second
is
the
landscape.
Third
is
the
site,
grading,
design
and
I'm.
Sorry
and
the
force
would
be
the
conditions
for
the
solar
panels
and
I
I
want
us
to
give
the
applicant
direction
as
well
as
staff
on
the
areas
that
were.
We
believe
that
the
the
applicant
meets
the
intent
and
then
the
areas
that
it
doesn't
and
could
we
separate
the
two
so
that
the
applicant
can
come
back
with
the
site,
design
and
the
landscape
design?
Yes,
member
Audrey
do.
H
Know
that
I,
like
going
first
architecture
as
I,
said
in
my
opening
comments,
I
think
it's
come
a
long
way.
Maria's
comment
about
bringing
out
the
eyebrow
at
the
entry
I
think
actually
probably
would
help
I.
Just
you
know,
it'll
just
be
a
much
cleaner
intersection,
so
I
think
that's.
That
would
be
the
only
comment
I
have
on
the
architecture
rating
gradient
site.
H
I
I
think
we
really
do
need
to
it
needs
to
come
back,
so
we
can
see
how
how
the
grade
is
resolved
in
relationship
through
the
site,
walls,
retaining
walls
along
both
the
east
and
west
elevations
of
her
property
lines
and
as
well
as
the
south
and
and
the
point
about
the
the
guardrail
along
the
pool
edge
or
the
fencing
moving
up.
I
think
that
all
needs
to
be
resolved
and
we
need
to
see
that
again:
landscape,
I,
I,
don't
I,
won't
comment
so
much
on
the
landscaping.
H
I
also
agree
and
I'm
concerned
that
maybe
the
one
foot
parapet
is
inadequate
and
that,
and
actually
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
what
the
section
is
if
we
do
have
a
sloped
roof.
That
is
too
got
a
drop
of
two
and
a
half
feet
and
a
flat
ceiling
inside
the
great
room.
How
that
actually
works
out
and
I
think
actually
a
ceiling
that
goes
from
14
to
16
feet
could
easily
be
dropped,
a
foot
or
more
without
harming
the
interior
space,
and
then
the
lighting
I
think
I'd.
H
The
exterior
lighting
I'm,
actually
ok,
with
a
thousand
women
maximum
per
fixture
I
think
where
it's
there's
one
light
outside
of
each
bedroom
and
then
there's
two
lights
in
the
front.
So
really
the
only
issue
would
be
the
ones
outside
the
bedroom.
I,
don't
think
that's
really
as
long
as
is
properly
shielded
and
and
and
or
recessed
you
know,
the
a
lot
of
the
LEDs
have
a
very
flat
profile.
H
There
are
some
that
have
a
deeper
recess
and
if
we
can
get
a
fixture
that
has
a
deeper
recess,
I
think
that
could
help
some
of
the
address
some
of
the
issues
in
terms
of
the
interior
lighting,
it
looks
as
I'm
reading
the
lights
light
fixtures
schedule,
most
of
it
is
1,200.
Lumens
I
had
asked
a
question
about
the
glazing:
I,
don't
know
whether
this
would
work
or
not,
but
if
we
went
with
some
sort
of
proposed
suggested
a
tinted
glaze
as
opposed
to
a
Chloe
clear.
H
Maybe
that
would
mitigate
some
of
the
light
being
read
from
the
adjacent
neighbors
down
the
hill.
Iii,
don't
know
I,
don't
know
if
that
really
wouldn't
work
or
not,
but
it
would
probably
help
a
little
bit
again.
The
fixture
I
would
suggest
for
interior
fixtures.
Again
it
has
a
deeper
recess
if
it
is
a
recessed
can
and
but
and
again,
if
it's
a
flat
ceiling
in
the
great
room
that
helps
tremendously.
So
those
are
my
comments.
G
So
for
the
for
the
architecture,
I
think
that
kind
of
relates
to
a
probably
the
the
solar
item.
We're
talking
about
also
so
I
I.
Think.
If
we
see
it
come
back,
Edward
would
be
nice
to
see
it
come
back
with
accurately
drawn
sections
and
our
drawings
that
we
can
look
at
also,
so
they
reflect,
they
may
be
a
lower
ceiling
or
different
truss
system
that
accommodates
both
this
flat
ceiling
and
sloped
roof
and
shielded
solar
panels,
shielded
from
the
south.
The
grading
and
the
site.
G
Maybe
there's
some
minimum
requirements
or
some
guidance.
We
can
give
the
civil
engineers
I
think
I
don't
want
to
design
it
for
them,
but
I
would
think
that
there's
some
percentage
along
that
southern
pad
along
that
southern
property
line,
where
it
doesn't
look
like
just
a
benched
off
pad
to
me.
It's
got
some
a
certain
percentage
where
boulders
are
required
to
rise
above
that
plane
of
six.
G
Oh
five
or
six,
oh
four
and
a
half
height
some
places
where
it
might
be
allowed
to
go
below
it
and
use
of
materials
over
a
certain
percentage
of
that
site
alone,
along
with
the
pad
where
those
boulders
might
rise
and
diminish.
Below
and
above
that
pad
height
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
those
retaining
walls.
I
think
that
the
very
southeast
corner
of
that
lower
sort
of
angular
retaining
wall
that
occurs
at
the
southwest
corner
of
the
property
as
it
faces
south.
G
If,
according
to
the
grading
plan,
shows
about
a
six
and
a
half
foot
height
differential.
There
I
think
the
applicant
said
it
was
five
or
four
feet.
So
so
those
are
areas
where
there's
a
you
know,
there's
a
certain
massive
amount
of
wall,
including
that
hole
south
wall
of
that
pool
there,
which
could
just
be
a
giant
mass
and
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
whole
entire.
G
You
see
where
I'm
going
with
this,
not
sure
the
whole
history
I
think
there
was
maybe
a
prior
meeting
where
the
applicant
mentioned
he
had
a
infinity
edge
pool
and
if
I'm
not
reading
into
it,
that
didn't
fly
too
well.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
might
help
to
sort
of
stagger
those
walls
back
a
bit
also
or
just
renate,
realizing
with
boulders
things
like
that.
I
think
we
yeah
I'm
done
with
architecture
I'm
into
the
creating
sorry.
The
there
obviously
needs
to
be
some
kind
of
staggered
wall
offset
wall
along
the
West
Side.
G
Remember
personally,
not
caring
for
it
or
think
thinking
that
it
was
in
harmony
with
the
adjacent
neighboring
projects
but
I'm
frankly,
not
quite
sure
of
how
much
we
can
dictate
that
there
should
be
a
deviation
from
this
hard
Tiye
metric,
I'd
love
to
see
it
get
away
from
that
and
into
a
more
natural-looking
landscape.
I'm,
not
sure
why
this
was
chosen
other
than
it
has
some
resemblance
of
the
architecture
in
the
plan
view
of
the
landscape
and
hard
scape.
G
The
groupings
and
crescendo
I
di
had
mentioned
earlier.
I
might
urge
looks
like
Tom
doe
sees
on
working
on
this
plan.
That
might
be
nice
if
he
could
look
at
something
like
that.
The
solar
I
think
we
are
I
already
covered
that
in
the
in
the
architectural
items,
particularly
with
accurately
drawn
sections
and
drawings.
So
we
can
see
what
that's
what's
really
going
on
there.
G
G
Don't
think
it
was
in
the
past
either
that
that's
ceiling
where
those
where
those
lights
are
occurring,
the
interior
and
that's
that's
a
legitimate
concern
that
that
the
interior
lighting,
if
it
was
filled
up
with
50
pot
lights,
then
I
mean
that
could
be
a
real
light
box
up
there,
a
beacon
on
top
of
the
hill
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
we
should
get
involved
in
that
flat
ceiling
would
certainly
help
more
than
a
sloped
ceiling
and
I
would
shut
up
about
that
item
if
it
was
a
flat
ceiling.
Sloped
ceiling
gives
me.
B
Well,
first
of
all,
remember
Rotman
you're,
very
good
at
going
first.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you
for
taking
that
making
that
sacrifice.
I
don't
disagree
with
either
of
the
comments
shared
up
until
now.
The
only
thing
I'll
add
specifically
on
each
of
these
is
that
I
think
I'm
I'm,
fine
with
the
architecture
I,
don't
see
any
any
reason
to
to
focus
on
that.
So
much
anymore.
I
think
really
the
rest
of
the
comments
other
than
lighting
are
in
how
the
the
project
is
framed
around
the
architecture.
B
B
Are
they
gonna
frame
the
site,
so
I'd
want
to
see
the
final,
what
the
grading
has
to
become
and
where
the
walls
are,
as
well
as
what
that
does
to
the
fencing
out
back
around
the
pool,
the
landscape
I
think
the
I
think
I'm
fine
with
the
geometry.
The
thing
that
concerned
me
the
most
really
was
how
much
concrete
there
was.
So
if
there's
anything
that
can
be
done
to
reduce
the
amount
of
concrete
I
thought,
that
was
a
really
good
observation.
So
I'll
agree
with
you
on
that
and
solar
again
I'm.
B
If
you
want
to
call
it
that
creating
the
lightbox
should
be
a
flat
ceiling
so
that
it
doesn't
further
complicate
the
ceiling
lighting
leading
out
to
the
outside,
and
that
takes
care
of
lighting,
basically
I
think
it's
just
all
in
I
think
we're
almost
there.
It's
just
how
things
are
finished
off
around
it
and
framing
it
off.
A
Architectural
II
I
agree
that
I
think
that
applicant
has
listened
to
our
concerns.
I
think
it's
a
great
response.
The
new
final
color
palette,
I
think
there's
been
some
suggestions
made
today
that
the
applicant
can
just
use
as
suggestions
they
might
happen.
They
might
not
I
think
the
house
has
it's
formed.
Now
is
a
nice
house
and
it's
more
technical
things
now
that
I
think
we
need
to
be
concerned
with
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
would
be.
An
easy
revision
is
on
the
roof.
A
It's
sloping,
18
inches
mm
from
the
south
side
to
the
north
side,
but
the
solar
panels
want
to
be
mounted
the
opposite
direction
of
that
pitch.
I
would
suggest
you
reverse
the
pitch
of
the
roof,
so
it
slopes
18
inches
from
the
north
side
towards
the
south.
That
automatically
makes
the
parapet
on
the
south
side
two
feet
tall,
so
that
in
itself
is
going
to
then
hide
those
solar
panels.
A
The
issue
of
the
water
is
something
we
never
discussed
because
once
those
roof
drains
and
you
show
the
roof
drains
on
the
plan
come
down
through
the
walls,
they're
gonna
need
to
go
somewhere
on
the
west
side.
It
just
shows
a
swale
along
near
the
property
line
fence
with
the
water
just
running
across
the
landscape
and
out
into
the
street.
A
But
the
comments
we
made
were
their
site.
Wise
I
think
we
made
pretty
specific
suggestions.
I
think
that
there
can
you
know
along
that
west
side.
If
the
wall
needs
to
be
taller
than
six
feet,
then
it
definitely
needs
to
be
two
walls
with
at
least
a
30
inch
separation
between
them.
So
we
can
get
a
planting
situation
in
there.
You
need
to
pay
attention
to
the
footings
of
those
retaining
walls,
so
they
don't
preclude
roots
from
plants
from
being
able
to
grow
there.
A
D
E
E
D
I
think
I
think
before
I
say
that
is
I
mr.foster
I
want
to
be
able
to
make
this
comment.
We
are
very
sympathetic
that
this
is
your
fourth
time
around.
We
don't
want
anybody
to
go
through
four
versions
of
this,
but
at
the
same
time,
the
reason
why
we
were
going
through
a
four
version
of
this
is
because
your
pet
plants
are
not
Thoreau,
whoever
your
design
team
is.
You
need
to
relate
back
that
the
plants
have
to
be
informative,
so
that
six,
seven
professionals,
including
staff,
can
make
good
findings
if
there
are
any.
E
I'm
sure,
if
I
may
in
the
past,
I
don't
know
the
profession
of
the
applicant,
but
during
his
presentation
in
responding
to
most
of
the
questions
that
you
asked,
he
was
referencing
his
engineer
in
the
past.
The
AAC
has
requested
that
the
engineer
be
present
to
answer
those
questions.
So,
if
he's
when
bring
him
back,
the
grading
plans
to
you
I
will
recommend
that
his
engineer
be
present
to
answer
those
questions,
because
they
are
very
technical
in
nature
and
I'm,
not
faulting
the
applicant
for
not
being
able
to
respond
to
those.
E
D
So
if
we
can
go
down
those
comment,
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial,
so
I
would
say
on
the
architecture
that
Mike
the
the
comment
that
was
made
on
the
front
fascia
it's.
What
I
would
say
is
the
condition
I
would
say
that
lowering
the
ceiling
height
in
order
to
create
enough
parapet.
Screening
of
the
photovoltaic
panels
should
also
be
a
condition.
So
in
this
case,
if
the
applicant
is
keeping
it
as
an
18
foot
parapet,
the
top
of
sheathing
needs
to
be
15
feet
as
2
feet.
D
Foot
top
of
sheathing
flat
18
foot
parapet
and
that
the
ceiling
of
the
main
area,
a
living
room,
dining
room.
What
do
you
call
it
needs
to
be
flat
so
that
the
light
fixtures
are
recessed
and
hiding
the
light
source.
D
D
D
D
D
Okay,
we'll
be
on
30
inches
landscaping
between
the
two
split
walls.
Oh
access
yards
not
owned
by
the
applicant,
needs
to
be
for
the
purpose
of
Rinat,
realization,
grading
and
also
we're
we're
we're
strongly
recommending
for
the
applicant
to
use
natural
material
like
boulders
in
order
to
mitigate
the
site,
elevation
differences.
D
G
D
D
D
Eduardo
Shawn
is
giving
you
an
example
is
on
the
grading
plan.
It
chose
wrought
iron
fence.
He
has
a
note
about
wrought
iron
fence,
see
architectural
and
then
there's
nothing
more
to
that.
But
then
it
it
doesn't
really
transition
into
the
block
wall.
It
has
like
an
orthogonal
layout
and
then
it
jumps
onto
the
CMU
layout.
So
to
us
he
seems
that
he
hasn't
really
been
thought
through
of
one
how
one
transitions
to
the
other
I
feel
like
I'm
missing
something
on
the
grading.
E
D
B
D
D
D
Okay,
I
think
I
think
on
on
landscape,
we're
saying
we
don't
agree
with
it,
but
we
respect
the
progress
and
the
efforts
that
were
made.
So
then
we
come
to
the
lighting
the
outer
lining.
We
are
accepting
the
fact
that
they
have
reduced
the
number
of
lighting
and
that
their
recess
can
and
so
therefore,
is
acceptable
and
we
have
given
you
comments
about
how
to
treat
into
your
lights,
both
by
tinting,
the
glass
and
by
keeping
the
ceiling
flat.
H
Just
throw
something
in
and
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
appropriate
or
not.
At
our
last
meeting
we
saw
a
couple
of
other
houses
up
in
this
development,
and
this
is
related
to
the
landscape
design
and,
as
I
recall,
they
were
of
a
similar
style
and
the
question
comes
in.
Is
this
an
appropriate
style
for
nine
homes
along
one
Street,
and
is
it
something
that
we
want
to
have
a
say
on,
or
you
know
consider
as
I?
H
E
D
H
G
Yep
I,
my
your
fear
with
the
landscape
is
my
fear,
with
the
whole
entire
project
and
and
I
almost
wanted
to
mention
something
to
staff
about.
Like
you
know,
we
only
have
to
do
this
9
more
times
and
if
we
have
to
see
the
you
know,
each
of
9
I'm
am
I
getting
the
count
correct.
Is
there
about
nine
more
Lots
with
it
will
presumably
be
developed
by
it's
really
not
fair.
For
me
to
say
all
this
without
him
here.
G
To
be
honest,
but
you
know
it
is
my
fear
that
that
I
I'd
hate
to
I
would
just
dread
coming
in
here
four
times
for
each
of
nine
projects
in
the
future.
So
it
would
be
nice
if,
as
the
I
don't
know,
if
you're
the
planner
for
that
that
area
up
there,
but
that
sure
would
be
great
if,
if
we
could
just
eliminate
some
of
the
the
trials
and
tribulations
we've
just
gone
through
with
this
one
ahead
of
time
before
we
before
we
get
to
that
and
say,
look
these
guys
just
aren't
guy!
G
H
E
Back
in
2005
I
dealt
with
the
original
owner
of
that
subdivision
very
different.
We
just
leave
it
that
way,
but
let's
hope
that
he
also
has
learned
from
this
process.
You
know
so,
hopefully
I
think
he
understands
the
thought
process
of
the
ALC.
We
suddenly
have.
You
know,
because
we
do
discuss
with
discusses,
had
a
staff
meeting
and
we
we
are
aware
of
some
of
the
deficiencies
and
some
of
the
difficulties
that
the
applicant
has
had
to
address.
E
D
This
is
one
project
where
I
can't
even
believe,
because
I'm
all
about
sustainability,
but
the
one
project
I
think
artificial
turf
is
not
the
right
thing
because
it
makes
it
more
plasticky.
You
know
as
a
plastic
design
quality
about
it,
but
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
okay
I
understand
the
array
and
the
curvature
and
blouse
on,
but
perhaps
would
it
help
if
the
placement
and
I
think
we're?
This
is
where
tom
was
going?
D
G
D
But
I
think
I'm
forcing
it
even
more
in
the
sense
I
mean
not
forcing
it,
but
in
the
sense
of
the
curvature
of
the
actual
heart,
scape
and
softscape,
and
we
buy
that
off.
Okay,
say:
okay,
fine,
it
has
these
lines,
but
the
actual
placement
of
anything
that
is
above
the
grade
above
4
inches.
You
know
they
cacti
the
boulders,
the
agave.
Can
they
be
more
placed
more
naturally,
either
by
grouping
or
or
irregular?
Oh.
A
Excuse
me
I.
Think
Robert
makes
a
great
point
that
if
there
were
nine
houses
where
the
yards
were
so
busy,
I
think
that
neighborhood
would
just
look
nuts
and
in
DeShawn's
point
about
the
amount
of
hard
scape
in
addition
to
the
driveways
and
walkways,
when
you
look
at
the
front
yard
other
than
the
artificial
turf,
it's
all
gravel
yeah.
D
G
E
E
D
B
B
B
D
B
The
north
side
think
it
was
on
the
north
on
the
north
end
to
pull
it
away
from
the
house.
So
it's
not
dead,
ending
terminating
into
the
house,
and
those
are
those
are
conditions
on
the
architecture.
Were
there
any
other
conditions?
Thank
you
to
use
tinted
glazing
to
help
reduce
the
lighting
pollution
that
might
escape
or
be
unsavory.
B
D
B
F
B
D
F
D
B
D
F
D
D
D
D
Usually
what
happens
is
by
efficiency
and
time
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
get
everybody's
comment
and
then
be
able
to
deliberate,
but
there
are
cases
that
are
not
as
easy
that
I
would
like
to
spend
more
time
on
sort
of
deliberating
together
and
I
think
by
doing
that,
we
have
actually
come
up
with
a
better
solution.
So
I
appreciate
that.