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From YouTube: Architectural Review Committee | Dec 7 2021
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City of Palm Springs Architectural Review Committee meeting, held December 7th, 2021
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So
public
comments,
since
this
is
a
public
meeting
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
of
the
issues
within
the
committee's
purview
comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
the
item
is
presented.
If
you
would
like
to
speak
on
a
nice
job
on
today's
agenda,
you
may
speak
now.
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They
are
using
stucco
for
a
majority
of
the
home,
with
accent
like
brick,
accents
as
well
garage,
it's
probably
a
little
difficult
to
see
from
this
angle,
but
further
on
in
the
rendering
you'll
see
sorry
that
the
garage
is
actually
facing
the
western
direction.
So
you
can't
you
can
see
it
from
the
the
main
street
because
the
main
street
curves,
but
it's
not
its
primary
focus.
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E
By
doing
this,
we
push
a
majority
of
the
the
social
spaces
away
from
the
neighbors
and
allow
the
the
project
to
breathe
a
bit
more
surrounded
by
native
vegetation
and
landscaping,
flared
walls
to
the
southwest
and
northeast
open.
The
structure
to
these
outdoor
garden
spaces,
the
shadow
garden
to
the
north,
which
is
the
street
side,
is
hidden
by
a
series
of
terrorist
landscape
walls
as
well
as
grading
and
also
buffered
by
garden
walls
and
and
landscaping
which
bennett
can
speak
about
going
forward.
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So
we
have
a
series
of
a
couple
steps
from
the
curb
down
to
the
front
entry
of
the
walk,
and
then
you
go
through
the
colonnade
up
to
the
front
door
and
to
make
it
less
conspicuous.
We
have
a
series
of
natural
looking
boulders
that
will
help
retain
the
plant
material
between
those
boulders
and
using
there's
two
existing
olives
on
the
property
that
we're
going
to
be
using
back
in
the
garden
and
moving
them
to
the
locations.
You
see,
we
have
a.
F
We
have
an
architectural
low
planter
wall
that
is
like
the
first
indication
and
the
boulders
will
run
into
this
wall
and
then
that
wall
is
helping
retain
a
higher
elevation
of
planting
so
that
that
wall
in
the
shadow
garden,
where
you
see
the
palm
coming
through
the
center
of
it,
is
not
a
very
high
wall.
It's
going
to
be
very
low
profile.
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It's
just
a
lot
of
gravel
and
inert
materials
that
will
make
this
look
more
natural
and
clean
the
driveway.
As
you
can
see
on
the
north,
you
know
the
northeast
side
of
the
property
is
what
you're
going
to
be
looking
at.
We
don't
want
a
typical
growl
of
driveway
as
concrete
and
hard
surface.
We
wanted
to
almost
go
away.
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On
the
opposite
side
of
the
house,
you'll
see
four
fruitless
olive
trees
that
will
make
up
a
a
canopy
for
a
dining
area
outside
that's
between
the
exercise
room
and
then
an
outdoor
pavilion
that
happens
on
the
west
side.
The
west
end
of
the
yard.
There,
the
the
pool,
has
an
infinity
edge
so
where,
as
mark
had
mentioned,
it's
flaring
out
and
mimicking
the
architecture,
the
spa
is
raised
infinity
edge
within
the
pool
very
low
profile.
F
Just
you
know,
no
more
than
eight
inches
above
the
water
line
of
the
pool,
so
you're
getting
two
planes
of
water
and
then
the
end
of
it
dropping
off.
But
still
it's
not
like
down
the
slope.
It's
probably
only
about
two
feet
on
when
18
inches
on
one
end
of
the
pool
and
about
two
and
a
half
feet
on
the
other
at
the
pool.
That's
dropping
off
to
the
existing
slope.
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E
Thank
you,
bennett
I'll
point
out
as
well
on
the
west
side,
which
is
the
top
of
this
sheet.
We
have
a
studio
building,
as
well
as
the
outdoor
pavilion
which
flanks
the
olive
trees
bennett
mentioned.
We
do
have
a
a
screen
wall
which
helps
buffer
the
neighbor
to
the
west,
who
is
about
five
feet
higher
from
in
grade
from
finish
floor
height
to
finish
floor
height,
so
this
helps
create
a
visual
buffer
between
them
and
also
projects
the
view
out
to
the
the
southwest,
rather
than
directly
to
the
west.
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I
guess
this
would
be
for
mark
on
on
the
west
side
of
the
house,
where
you
have
the
studio
and
then
the
pavilion
as
you
go
from
the
studio
south
there's
a
series
of
of
architectural
elements
that
you
know
continue
towards
the
south
from
the
studio
to
the
pavilion
and
then
there's
a
break
in
between
them
across
the
the
olive
garden.
There
do
you
have
so
so
those
look
like
they're
to
be
like
nine
foot,
six
inches
to
the
top,
and
then
you
mentioned
the
screen
wall
that
that
goes
in
between
those.
E
Sure
alex
we
switch
to,
let's
see
which
sheet
that
is
ar06,
please,
which
it
should
be
the
next
one.
Yes,
so
this
is
a
pure
elevation.
Looking
looking
from
the
west,
so
of
course
we
don't
live
in
elevation.
This
is
purely
an
architectural
drawing.
The
goal
with
those
walls
is
to
give
the
idea
that
the
the
wall
on
the
far
left
that
originates
at
the
studio
is
one
singular
wall.
That
goes
all
the
way
to
the
pavilion.
Much
like
a
ruin
it.
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It
would
have
been
collapsed
broken
over
time,
but
by
doing
that,
we
allow
landscaping
and
sight
lines
to
go
through
it
between
those
walls
that
you
see
in
white.
There
are
no
sub-walls,
no
fences,
no
screening,
it's
just
purely
landscaping,
and
it
it
sets,
especially
on
the
the
metal
middle
portion
it
sort
of
sets
the
the
the
tone
for
outdoor
rooms.
You
can
see
just
left
and
right
of
that
middle
slender
wall.
You
see
the
outdoor
dining
table,
so
it
serves
as
a
backdrop
for
life
on
the
opposite
side
of
this
wall.
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It's
fine
yeah,
so
it's
the
the
bottom
left
rooftop
with
the
solar
panels
on
top
yeah.
So
the
idea
here
we
have
a
number
of
cantilever
roofs,
especially
going
toward
the
south
on
the
main
structure.
We
repeat
this
on
the
pavilion
to
to
create
some
dynamism.
The
hillside
falls
off
right
at
the
edge
of
that
pavilion.
So
it
gives
this
sense
of
levity
as
that
roof
extends
past
the
edge
of
the
hillside
past
the
limits
of
of
where
the
functional
space
stops.
E
Correct
there's
a
there's,
a
pool
enclosure.
What's
not
shown
in
this
rendering
which
bennett
mentioned
there
is
there
is
native
landscaping
at
that
location
which
provides
a
buffer.
It's
actually
on
our
clients
lot
and
bennett
can
speak
more
into
the
specific
type
of
planting
that
exists
in
that
location
if
needed.
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D
They've
explained
it
well.
The
other
question
I
had
is
for
on
the
landscape
plan.
It
calls
out
gravel
to
be
determined
and
is
there
any
thoughts
on
what
the
material
you
know?
So
it's
indicating
graphically
that
you
know
the
whole
front
of
the
residence
as
well
as
the
driveway
is
one
material,
and
I
guess
my
question
is
there
will
be
you
know,
a
turning
radius
to
come
into
the
garage
and
so
forth,
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
is:
is
there?
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Yeah
it'll
probably
be
a
like
at
least
a
three-quarter
to
one-inch
size,
gravel
that
happens
there
if
it
ends
up
being
a
smaller
size
throughout.
Since
there
is
a
lot
of
it,
we
keep
the
same
gravel
but
a
different
size,
for
instance
in
the
front
of
the
property,
but
a
little
heavier
in
the
driveway.
If
there's
traction,
it'll
probably
be
stabilized
so
that
we
don't
have
that
issue
as
well.
F
So
the
grout
was
in
that
meaning
that
the
grou
would
most
likely
would
stay
within
the
property
opposed
to,
but
it
we
also,
you
know,
that's
what's
required,
we
could
entertain
putting
up.
You
know
a
hard
surface
just
along
the
curve,
probably
and
say
an
aggregate
or
something
so
it
sort
of
matches
what
we.
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B
Thank
you
remember,
dosie,
there's
a
condition
of
approval
on
page
five
of
the
conditions
relative
to
growth
that
basically
says
that
they're
just
required
to
repair
or
replace
the
pavement
for
street
improvement,
but
the
sidewalk
is
deferred.
So
that's
not
required
at
this
time
and
that's
why
the
extent
of
it
is
really
to
repair
and
improve
the
adjacent
pavement
areas.
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H
I
think
that
front
garden
is
kind
of
clever.
I
mean
you
basically
sort
of
nailed
the
privacy
issue
without
without
over
fencing
it
and
over
over
building,
and-
and
so
I
think
it
would
be
probably
one
of
the
more
successful
and
and
delightful
spaces
in
it,
and
I
also
I
know
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
parking
and
all,
and
I
was
kind
of
wondering
about
the
backup,
but
it
just
it
looks
the
the
side
loading
I
think
helps
with
with
all
of
that
and
it
just
you
know
it
has.
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B
So,
as
you
you
may
recall,
this
item
was
reviewed
by
the
committee
on
september
20th
of
this
year
when
the
committee
reviewed
kind
of
the
initial
design
for
a
repaint,
some
new
rooftop
screening
and
really
a
limited
scope
for
a
tendon
improvement
and
some
additional
exterior
improvements
to
this
existing
cannabis.
Dispensary.
B
The
item
went
to
the
city
council
on
october
14th
of
this
year
and
referred
the
matter
to
the
committee
for
additional
improvements
to
the
project
to
really
improve
this
corner
of
the
city
and
so
staff
provided
the
applicant
with
the
series
of
items
that
we
thought
would
help
improve
the
design
of
the
project.
So
I'll
go
over
those
here
with
you
now.
B
So
what
they're
proposing
now
on
the
building
itself,
they
are
proposing
to
close
these
windows
off
repair
it
with
stucco
and
so
you'll
see
that
the
elevation
details
here
in
just
a
moment,
but
they
are
proposing
to
replace
the
existing
green
awning
with
this
blue
awning.
Here
this
side.
The
detail
of
this
item
is
shown
here
at
the
top
of
your
screen.
B
So
when
we
look
at
the
elevation
plan,
you
can
see
that
there's
some
specific
call
outs
here,
that's
really
related
to
replacing
the
stucco
and
repairing
it,
replacing
the
windows
up
here,
repairing
it
with
stucco
and
then
they're
proposing
to
paint
it
a
light,
gray
color
and
then
the
trim
will
be
the
navy
blue
color
that
you
saw
on
the
previous
screen
and
then
the
new
light
fixtures
that
are
currently
wall
packs
will
be
replaced
with
fully
shielded
light.
Fixtures
and
I'll
show
you
that
detail
in
just
a
moment
on
the
south
elevation.
B
They
are
doing
the
same
with
the
lighting
and
repairing
a
doorway
here,
repairing
that
with
stucco
and
repainting
that
elevation
as
well
as
you
recall,
they
are
proposing
a
screen
for
the
rooftop
mechanical
equipment
that
is
required
for
this
business.
So
that
is
not
changing
that
it
remains
the
same,
but
as
far
as
the
wall
packs
that
are
on
the
elevation
now,
those
will
be
replaced
with
this
detail
here
that
you
see
at
the
top
right
of
the
screen.
B
B
B
So
those
are
really
the
the
primary
changes
that
the
yapping
is
proposing,
based
on
the
direction
that
we've
given
them
and
the
direction
from
arc.
One
eye
that's
not
identified
in
the
plan
that
I
did
talk
to
the
applicant
about
after
this
was
after
we
published.
The
report
was
relative
to
the
wall,
the
plant
wall,
along
the
edge
of
the
property
that
was
a
common
to
repaint,
that
wall
to
improve
it,
and
so
the
applicant
will
be
painting
that
wall
to
match
the
same
color
of
the
building.
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J
Sure,
I
don't
think
I'll
take
10
minutes,
but,
based
on
the
comments
and
review
from
our
last
session,
the
the
client
and
epstein
worked
together
to
devise
a
plan
that
would
satisfy
what
these.
What
comments
would
would
need
to
be
satisfied
for
this.
We,
the
client,
is
well
aware
of
the
current
condition
of
the
building
and
wants
to
make
it
look
much
better,
obviously
for
their
own
business,
they're,
proposing
to
replace
all
of
the
stucco
and
then
paint
and
replace
and
repair
the
eaves
as
necessary.
J
A
B
So
they've
provided
details
or
what
their
intention
is
for
the
signs.
We
don't
have
the
specific
dimensions
on
the
signs.
I
think
they
have
an
overall
dimension
of
the
monument
sign,
but
we
don't
have
details
on
the
size
of
the
awning
sign
to
do
a
full
evaluation
of
that,
so
that
item
may
have
to
come
back
for
arc
review
unless
we
stop
to
do
the
evaluation
as
to
compliance
with
the
zoning
code.
B
H
Oh
okay,
no,
that's
good!
Thank
you
just
as
an
overview
it
is.
It
is
well
improved
in
terms
of
of
what
we
had
earlier
reviewed,
certainly,
and
it
looks
like
a
good
amount
of
thought
into
the
detailing
of
of
a
lot
of
the
hardscape
pieces.
One
one
thing
that
did
strike
me
about
the
signage
is:
is
the
front
sign,
and
so
it
they
have
not
been
reviewed
for
compliance.
Is
that
correct
david
yeah?
Okay?
H
A
Yeah
all
right,
as
I
understand
it
from
you
that
was
kind
of
a
comment-
a
rhetorical
chip
staff
there
now
on
the
signage
when
david
and
I
had
spoke
about
this
project
beforehand,
he
had
kind
of
indicated
to
me
that
we
were
not
really
going
to
review
the
science.
I
hadn't
gone
through
its
few
full
reviews,
but
shall
we
start
with
a
discussion
now
about
the
project.
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J
Rings,
the
lighting
fixtures
are
called
out
as
3000
kelvin.
Where
do
you
see
that
it
should
be
on
the
rcp
spec?
There
should
be
specs
listed
on
the
rcp
that
we
shared
with
the
planning
department
that
calls
out
each
light
fixture
and
within
that
schedule
it
should
have
not
only
the
wattage
but
also
the
temperature.
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J
I
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J
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F
A
Shall
I
okay
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
that
we
approve
the
project
with
the
conditions
that
staff
has
outlined
and
maybe
an
added
condition
of
making
sure
that
the
the
awning
lights
are
are
dimmable
and
I
think,
as
a
precautionary
measure,
you
might
add
that
yeah
john,
I
think,
brought
up
some
good
points
about
the
signage.
So,
if
there's
future
signage
to
be
presented,
maybe
that
could
be
preemptively
taken
into
consideration.
What
what
john
had
to
say,
which
I
think
I
was
beginning
to
agree
with
so
that
might
come
up
again
later.
A
A
A
Right
yep,
so
rhonda
item
four
now
well,
thanks
guys
for
that
previous
project
item,
adam
shahab
and
rina,
lazarian
shahab
owners
for
a
major
architectural
application
for
the
construction
of
a
420
square
foot
single-family
residence
located
at
2216
north
sunrise
way
staff.
Would
you
have
a
staff
report.
A
I
That
said,
you
may
have
noticed
in
the
conditions
that
they
have
deferred
a
fair
amount
of
the
right-of-way
improvements,
and
that's
because
they
they
don't
plan
on
making
the
applicant
put
in
the
exact,
sidewalk
or
they're,
going
to
take
up
this
asphalt
and
have
them
put
in
a
curb
and
sidewalk.
But
that's
it
they
will.
They
will
enforce
the
other
right-of-way
improvements
when
they
take
the
ultimate
right-of-way.
I
So
the
landscaping
was
a
little
bit
of
a
sticking
point
with
planting
only
because
of
this
sedum
plant.
So
we
have
added
condition
for
the
applicant
to
replace
this
with
something
that
is
called
out
in
the
russian
official
valley.
Water,
district
selection,
efficient
handbook
so,
and
they
will
have
benches
it
will
be
designed
with
the
sedum
the
barrel
cactus
and
the
four
benches.
I
C
A
K
Yes,
I'm
here,
I'm
adam
shahad,
my
wife
is
not
available
because
she
got
pulled
into
a
meeting
after
work,
so
she's
still
in
a
meeting,
but
basically
my
wife
and
I
designed
this
house,
and
then
we
took
the
designs
to
the
architect,
so
he
can
make
it.
You
know,
do
their
own
thing
and
present
it
in
an
acceptable
manner.
K
F
K
K
I
just
wanted
to
put
some
stones
and
some
gravel
stuff
like
that,
but
the
idea
developed
you
know-
and
he
advised
me
to
put
the
trees
to
put
some
shade
on
top
of
the
benches
I
wanted
to
put
the
benches
in,
but
he
suggested
I
put
the
trees
to
put
shade
on
top
of
the
benches.
You
know
things
like
that,
so
I'm
grateful
for
that.
It
makes
it
much
more
user
friendly.
I
guess
when
the
sun
is
shining.
H
G
K
K
That
way,
you
know,
that's
where
the
idea
of
all
these
benches
came
in,
but
because
of
the
requirements
for
the
setback,
there's
no
room
to
put
it
behind
the
house,
so
it
had
to
go
in
the
front
of
the
house
sure
so
to
put
it
in
front
of
the
house.
You
know
if
you
see
a
park
anywhere
a
park
would
not
have
any
friends
or
any
walls
around
it,
it
would
park.
Part
of
the
park
is
to
be
open.
K
K
And
it's
not
a
big
privacy
issue,
because
you
know
this:
the
future
swimming
pool
will
be
in
the
back,
so
people
will
be
fully
clothed.
I
think
so
it's
not
going
to
be
an
issue
of
privacy.
You
know
it's.
We
will
just
be
sitting
there
drinking
tea
and
coffee.
You
know
or
reading
a
book.
It's
good
good
to
know.
G
Picket
fence
in
this
area
doesn't
seem
to
mesh
so
whether
it's
a
kind
of
a
low
retaining
wall-
or
you
know
like
a
low
garden
wall
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
separation
from
the
street.
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
certainly
a
five
foot
wall
to
block
you
or
anything,
but
I
think
it
would
provide
you
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
between
kind
of
you
and
the
street.
G
K
C
H
Sean
may
I
grabbed
the
floor
again
and
built
it
from
earlier
and
a
question.
Mr
shahab.
I
think
that
your
your
attempt
at
buffering
between
the
street
and
the
house
is
laudable
and
and
good,
and
the
only
thing
that
kind
of
puzzled
me
a
little
bit
is
that,
when
I
saw
park
to
me,
means
softscape
planting
and
shade
trees,
and
when
I
see
a
very
kind
of
a
formal
layout
of
some
some
concrete
hardscape
and
not
a
lot
of
trees,
but
a
lot
of
geometric
structure
it.
H
K
A
A
C
A
A
Also,
if
you
intend
to
sit
under
them
for
shade
throughout
the
day,
particularly
the
morning,
I
don't
know
that
these
would
provide
any
shade
for
you
at
all
around
the
this
bench
area
from
the
east,
so
maybe
there's
another
layer
of
trees,
you'd
like
to
consider
or
moving
the
trees
around
or
creating
these
kind
of
quads
of
trees
around
your
bench
vignettes.
There
are
all
ideas,
different
plant
material
that
might
create
a
medium
three
foot,
four
foot,
five
foot
high
hedge
or
a
meandering
height
hedge,
I
think,
are
potential
ideas.
A
One
of
the
things
that
jumps
out
at
me,
that's
to
me
particularly
uninviting
about
the
design,
is
the
amount
of
hardscape
on
the
north
side
of
the
building.
And
so,
although
I
appreciate
that's
your
garage
and
you'd,
like
some
hammerhead
space
to
be
able
to
back
out
of
the
garage
and
potentially
nose
out
of
the
driveway,
I
would
think
that,
along
that
north
property
line,
you
might
be
able
to
cut
some
of
that
hardscape
back
three
feet.
Two
and
a
half
feet
create
a
little
hedge
greenery
along
that
side
and
really
cut
down
on
on.
K
A
A
G
D
D
D
I
don't
know
if
they
have
any
kind
of
reveal
around
them
or
they're
inset
a
little
bit,
but
they
just
seem
like
they
could
be
larger
in
in
size
and
in
better
proportion
to
the
facade
of
the
building
in
that
area
and
then.
Secondly,
on
the
site
plan,
you
know,
I'm
I'm
understanding.
You
know
based
on
the
explanations
you
know
about
the
kind
of
the
formalized
garden
areas.
D
I
I
think
there
could
be
something
where
you
you.
You
know
you
place
some
trees
in
each
one
of
those
squares
and
then
I'd
also
like
to
see
some
foundation
planning
or
planting
up
between
the
last
walkway
and
the
building
itself.
I
I
think
that
there's
the
opportunity,
the
frame
the
structure
and
to
create
a
you,
know
more
pleasing
aesthetic
both
of
the
facade
of
the
building
and
really
give
this
area.
As
you
mentioned,
that
park-like
atmosphere
and
then.
D
Thirdly,
I
think
you
know
there's
I'm
not
sure
what
the
setback
would
have
to
be
for
any
type
of
wall,
but
maybe
there
could
even
be
a
low
wall.
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
five
or
six
feet,
but
I
feel
that
with
the
busyness
and
the
traffic
along
that
street,
that
even
a
low
wall
would
be
advantageous
to
kind
of
give
that
sense
of
privacy
and
and
personal
space
away
from
the
street.
D
D
D
D
C
A
D
D
I
You
know
you've
also
got
a
light
post
smack
on
access
with
your
front
door.
So
visual,
cue
right
of
the
center
line
of
your
house,
is
really
broken
by
having
some
type
of
fixture
like
this
they're,
not
a
standard
choice
for
residents
residences
in
this
town,
and
then
I
see
you've
got
two
of
them,
one
at
the
back
property
line,
which
I
think
will
possibly
concern
the
neighbors.
I
A
I
think
I
wonder
if
you
can't
achieve
something
a
bit
more
subtle,
but
with
the
same
impact
that
achieves
your
lighting
needs
with,
with
some
low
voltage
landscape
lighting
that
just
kind
of
candle
lights,
the
yard
yeah,
I
think
they
they
might
become
problematic.
I
think
john
mccoy
is
talking
about
the
rear
neighbor,
but
as
I
look
at
that
that
front
one
again
also,
I
wonder
if
it's
not,
I
don't
know
kind
of
fighting
with
the
architecture
and
the
subtleties
that
you're
trying
to
achieve
here.
K
A
K
H
Mr
chairman,
I
think
I
think
I
would
make
a
motion
to
approve
with
a
list
of
conditions
to
be
worked
out
with
planning
staff
mm-hmm
yeah.
Toward
that
end,
I've
been
keeping
track.
May
I
give
my
list
that
I've?
I
would
like
that
very
much
here
we
go
number
one
re-study
the
window
proportions
with
an
eye
toward
making
them
a
bit
larger
and
more
in
scale
with
the
elevations,
your
front
windows,
I'm
sorry,
the
the
exterior
windows
did,
I
say
front:
no,
you
didn't.
H
H
A
So
can
I
can
I
piggyback
on
two
of
those
things
yeah?
So
if
the
trash
or
an
equipment,
a
closure,
let's
say
for
some
reason,
got
relocated
to
the
north
side,
which
is
where
the
driveway
is.
I
would
say
one
thing
that
would
be
critical
there
is
that
it's
also
screened
from
the
street
in
the
public
view
in
the
public
right-of-way,
meaning
it
could
be
a
wall
could
be
landscape,
could
be
both
right.
It
seems
like
a
better
place
to
put
it
over
on
the
driveway
side,
trash
closure
yeah.
That
needs
to
be
screened.
A
Material
not
low
ground
cover,
but
somewhere
between
low
ground
cover
and
a
tall
hedge
somewhere
in
between
there
doesn't
have
to
be
a
tall
hedge,
but
can't
be
just
a
little
ground
cover
to
help
soften
that
could
be
periodically
could
be
continuously
along
the
street
side
of
that
low
wall,
because
I
think
there's
setting
up
an
opportunity
there,
where
that
might
be
a
lot
of
more
of
this
hard
on
hard
surface
mm-hmm.
The
thing
that
I
think
we
want
to
try.
It
may
backfire.
Yes,.
B
A
I
I
We
haven't
figured
out
so
this
is
the
former
social
market
at
the
corner
of
gene
autry
trail
and
this
to
chino.
So
here's
an
aerial
photograph
of
the
site.
The
architectural
review
committee
reviewed
this
project
way
back
in
2019
for
a
renovation
of
the
shopping
center
and
the
parking
lot
and
landscaping.
I
I
So
looking
at
the
proposed
landscape
plan,
let
me
zoom
in
here
they
are
proposing
a
series
of
shrubs
and
plants
along
vista,
chino
and
junontru
trail,
keeping
in
mind
and
I'm
going
to
show
the
arc.
The
previously
approved
plan
in
just
a
minute.
But
this
is
what
they're
proposing
now
so
you'll
see.
There's
a
series
of
of
plants
along
the.
I
Street
this
is
the
plan
that
was
originally
approved
and
I'm
sorry.
This
is
in
your
packet,
but
you'll
see
that
they
had
up
to
14
palo
verde
trees
that
were
to
be
planted
along
the
street
within
the
reworked
parking
lot,
and
in
this
proposal
they
are
not
going
to
rework
the
parking
lot
they're
going
to
restripe
it
and
keep
it,
as
is.
I
I
I
That's
in
your
packet,
showing
the
type
the
colors
that
are
proposed
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
what
was
approved
by
the
architectural
review
committee
back
in
2019
you'll
see
that
it
was
a
more
linear,
horizontal
roof
that
provided
that
removed
the
mansard
roof,
but
then
added
different
elements
to
add
height,
to
provide
screening
for
mechanical
equipment
on
the
roof.
So
this
was
what
was
approved
and
there
they
are
not
looking
to
do
this
design.
C
I
I
I
So
going
back
to
the
landscape
plan,
as
I
mentioned,
you'll
see
that
the
parking
lot
is
not
changing.
There
are
two
entrances
off
of
executive
drive,
one
off
of
gene
autry
trail
and
they're,
going
to
just
slurry
seal.
The
lighting
will
stay
the
same
so
member
locker.
That
concludes
my
report
and
the
applicant
is
here.
I
A
A
C
Yeah
dave
madden
architect,
I
did
the
original
design
and
we
did
the
revised
design.
The
original
design
was
going
to
be
a
shared
financial
burden
from
the
site
owner
building
owner
with
trulife
after
everything
was
approved,
and
the
pricing
came
in,
the
building
owner
decided
not
to
do
participated
at
all
in
any
of
the
improvements
for
the
pres.
The
approved
design
truly.
C
The
slurring
of
the
free
striping,
the
landscaping,
the
standing
seam
metal,
building,
roofing
they're
doing
this
out
of
their
own
pocket
for
the
entire
building
and
the
owner
of
the
building
is
not
participating,
so
we're
basically
just
asking
for
some
mercy
and
grace
to
accommodate
improving
the
site.
I
know
we're
short
on
landscape
shading,
but
truly
we
already
have
a
permit.
A
A
I
Yes,
the
the
original
approval
still
stands
and
planning
division
will
require
them
to
build
or
install
the
landscaping
or
the
exterior
renovations
in
order
to
get
the
occupancy
of
the
cannabis
dispensary.
So
we
would
not
approve
this
at
staff
level.
We
needed
to
bring
it
to
you
all
to
comment.
Make
suggestions
review
it
before
the
planning
division,
acts.
A
Yeah,
okay,
I
think
I'm
clear
now
I
think
I'm
clear
and
and
yeah
so
the
architectural
improvements,
the
standing
seam
metal
roof,
that's
all
with
what
we're
looking
at
is
what's
being
proposed.
Yes,
I
do
have
a
question
now
when
you
presented
that
and
this
question
might
be
for
you
dave
but
glenn.
When
you
presented
the
project,
you
said
they
were
going
to
skin
the
roof.
I
don't
know
it's.
Does
that
mean
like
do
something
over
top
of
the
tile.
A
C
A
A
A
D
I
D
D
D
A
Yeah
tom,
I
agree
with
you,
100
and,
and
so
when
I
look
at
this
project
and
what's
being
proposed
here,
particularly
just
beginning
with
the
site
plan
and
the
landscape
plan,
I'll
even
rewind,
behind
that
a
little
bit
so
it
I
come
down
this
road,
a
lot
in
the
mornings
and
you
get
getting
hung
up
at
that
light,
there
heading
westbound
you're
forced
to
look
at
this
building
and
yeah.
It's
it's
far
from
attractive,
and
yet
I
see
this
now
as
an
opportunity
and
thought
well
wow.
This
is
great.
A
These
folks
are
going
to
do
something
with
this
building
here
and
and
initially
and
for
a
long
time
I
didn't
even
know
this
was
city
of
palm
springs,
because
I
thought
I
see
that
signed
caddy
corner
from
it
at
the
southwest
corner.
That
says
palm
springs
which
to
me,
I
feel
like
well,
maybe
gene
archer's,
the
border
there,
and
and
so
what's
east
of
that,
what
must
be
cathedral
city
and
until
when
I
saw
this
project
and
go
wow.
Okay,
that's
city
property!
Now
that's
that's
great!
You
know,
but
you
know
it.
A
This
gateway
to
palm
springs
at
kind
of
the
northern
town,
with
folks
coming
from
east
to
heading
west
into
palm
springs.
What
a
great
opportunity
is
to
beautify
pretty
much
the
last
dilapidated
corner
of
this
intersection
here
as
the
gateway
into
into
the
city
and-
and
I
think
this
lan-
I
take
a
look
at
this
landscape
plan.
I
go
gosh.
A
A
It
seems
like
there's
far
too
many
spaces
in
a
row
before
you're
required
to
have
those
sort
of
finger
islands
for
shade
trees,
and
things
like
that.
I
think
it's
10
spaces
maximum
before
you're
required
to
do
that,
and-
and
I
think
most
people
try
to
design
those
optimal
ways
and
maybe
there's
more
along
the
south
and
kind
of
feather
or
get
away
from
them.
A
As
you
move
north
through
the
project,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
really
make
that
much
less
hard
and
black
and
dilapidated
asphalt,
feeling
to
try
to
dissipate
that
and
improve
that
and
make
that
go
away
and
to
me
one
of
the
main
improvements.
If
I
owned
this
building
or
I
bought
it,
I
would
think
gosh
the
all
of
the
opportunity
here.
A
The
beautification
of
this
building
is
really
in
the
landscape
and
that's
where
it
really
has
a
chance
to
shine
and
make
this
a
much
more
valuable
property,
desirable
property
and
in
a
building
where
people
might
want
to
frequent
shop,
rent
a
space
lease,
a
space
or
potentially
buy
the
building
someday
and
do
more
with
it
and
without
that
layer
of
landscaping
improvement.
Here
I
couldn't
support
this
either.
Just
I
don't.
I
don't
see
how
this
helps
this
gateway
into
the
city
and
I
feel
like
this
needs
a
lot
of
work.
A
But
I
don't
know
why
anyone
gets
passed
because
you
know
they
they've
got
tenants
to
fill
which
seems
like
they
can,
and
yet
they
say
they
don't
have
the
the
money
to
make
the
improvements.
I
don't
know
where
to
go
from
there
other
than
I'd
like
to
see
the
improvements
and
to
me
this
is
not
much
of
an
improvement.
C
G
G
I
We
left
what
we
what
is
existing
and
it
was
already
stated:
there's
no
budget
to
now.
My
brother-in-law
used
to
have
a
term
that
he
is
called
taking
the
sin
off
when
something
was
really
horrible.
What
can
you
do
to
slightly
improve
it
and
that's
kind
of
what
this
does
and
exactly?
I
don't
even
see
a
lot
of
longevity.
A
Yeah
well-
and
I
think
that's
a
good
point,
I
think
what
you
said
is
you
don't
see
a
lot
of
longevity
to
what
is
presented
here
and
that's
kind
of
the
way
I
looked
at
some
of
this
plant
material
also,
is
I
felt
like
gosh?
This
is
going
to
look
like
it
does
today,
a
year
from
now
when
75
of
those
plants
die,
and
I
don't
see
the
improvement
at
all,
though
thanks,
mr
walsh,.
C
H
Overall,
what
is
presented
here
is
a
is,
is
kind
of
a
big
disappointment
and
I,
I
think
sean
you're,
absolutely
correct
gateway
to
the
city
and
it's
it's
visually
important
as
an
artery
and
what
goes
on
on
that
corner.
Also,
the
the
the
dichotomy
between
how
the
other
corners
are
developed-
and
this
is
a
glaring
request
for
an
explanation
as
to
why,
anyway,
I
can
kind
of
round
this
out
with
a
with
a
emotion:
do
it
do
it
baby?
A
A
C
Yeah,
I
will
report
back
to
them
in
the
morning
they're
they're
in
florida,
relief's
out
of
florida.
So
I
will
contact
them
in
the
morning
and
probably
the
next
step
would
be
to
enhance
the
landscaping
and
keeping
the
mansuard
roofing,
but
maybe
do
some
pop-out
squares
that
we
can
try
to
articulate
a
little
bit
more
and
get
rid
of
that
mile
long
flat.
C
A
Don't
don't
don't
underestimate
it?
I
don't
think.
I
think
this
thing
needs
a
drastic
overhaul
from
what's
shown
here
today.
Oh
yes,
and
I
don't
know
that
a
couple
of
finger
shaped
tree
pockets
is
gonna,
get
it
done.
If
glenn,
would
you
mind
just
for
kicks?
Can
we
put
up
that
original
landscape
clown
just
really.
A
Can
you
start
looking
at
this
too
closely?
I
mean,
I
would
even
say
if
this
were
presented
today.
I
might
even
argue
that
some
of
those
box
sizes
are
too
small.
I
didn't
see
anything
over
24
and
frankly,
a
lot
of
24
inch
material
can
look
like
a
twig.
I
might
specify
some
of
the
calipers
on
those
or
a
certain
dimension
to
to
a
mature
tree
canopy.
A
C
G
A
C
A
Really
you
know
I
I
kind
of
I
think
the
slow
proof
is
fine.
Maybe
you
could
play
with
the
volumes
of
it.
Maybe
you
don't
I
I
I'm
gonna
stand
by
that
original
comment.
I
made
where
the
the
landscape
and-
and
I
think
john
walsh
was
echoing
what
I
was
saying.
He
words
things
a
little
bit
more
eloquently
than
I
do.
A
H
Think,
john,
yes-
and
this
is
an
interesting
juxtaposition
of
these
two
images-
you
know
for
all
of
its
sins-
that
that
sloped
roof
consistently
tidies
up
the
whole
elevation.
It
just
becomes
a
non-statement,
it's
very
background,
and
you
know
the
rest
is
some
signage
and
pick
the
right,
color
and
call
it
a
day.
But
yes,
the
the
screaming
need
is
the
the
parking
lot.
A
Look
at
that
building
and
and
like
I
don't
I
don't
even
I
don't
know
what
I
want
to
go
into-
that
shopping
center
to
purchase,
but
it's
not
much
of
anything
drawing
me
in
there
and
I
think
a
soft
like
I
wouldn't
even
go-
have
lunch
in
there
in
my
car
because
there's
there's
no
shade,
there's
no
relief
from
anything
there's,
just
nothing.
Drawing
me
there.
A
A
I
guess
I
was
over
the
elevation
thing
and
just
getting
back
to
the
landscape
again
thinking
how
the
landscape
could
improve
that
parking
lot
and
the
experience
of
the
building
and
even
a
little
bit
of
lighting
in
there
at
night,
maybe
and
just
drawing
me
into
that
that
parking
lot
and
wanting
to
know
what
business
might
be
in
there.
Maybe
I'll
stop
and
I'm
stuck
at
the
red
light.
Let
me
just
whip
it
in
here
and
see
what
they
have,
but
I
just.
D
C
D
A
A
A
Is
this
one
off
and
maybe
this
is
going
too
far,
but
I
I
was
gonna
about
to
ask
about
the
adjustment
of
that
sidewalk
and
could
that
sidewalk
meander
and
have
alternating
landscape
strips
on
on
both
right-of-way
side
and
private
side
of
that
sidewalk,
rather
than
having
that
continuous
sidewalk
along
the
curb
line
itself.
But
you
know
it
that
I
I
realize
this
is
a
a
path.
I
don't
want
to
go
down
to
more
money
and
costs
and
gosh
we'll
be
lucky
to
get
near
what
we're
asking
for.
So
it's
just
an
idea.
D
Well,
I
just
you
know
I
was
thinking
about
some
of
the
other
plans
that
we
reviewed.
You
know
the
residential
plans
and
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
it
couldn't
be
a
good
recommendation
to
the
applicants
if
they
could
just
show
a
lot
of
times
the
plan
just
stops
at
the
property
line
and
if
they
could
show
maybe
10
feet
or
15
feet,
either
side
of
the
property
line.
A
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point
and
I
didn't
realize
you
were
making
a
general
comment
about
the
future
presentations,
but
I
I
know
that's
been
one
of
the
benefits
of
doing
these
reviews
on
zoom.
Is
I've
been
able
to
go,
look
on
my
computer
and
look
at
street
view
and
see
how
a
neighbor
has
turf
and
we're
talking
about
adding
gravel
and
there's
going
to
be
a
very
defined
line,
and
I
did
it
today
on
that
stevens
road
house,
where
I
could
see?
A
So
I
see
what
you're
saying
that
that's
if
that
could
be
a
requirement
at
least
photo
exhibits
of
this
is
the
the
difference
here,
but
certainly
on,
even
if
people
thought
about
that
on
their
site
plans
that
would
kind
of
demonstrate
that
people
are
thinking
about
this,
and
I
know
indian
wells
is
actually
big
on
that
that
item.
They
don't
want
those
abrupt
crisp
straight
lines
where
somebody's
got
turf
and
somebody
else
just
comes
in
with
boulders.