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From YouTube: Sustainability Commission | Sept 21 2021
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City of Palm Springs Sustainability Commission meeting, held September 21st, 2021
A
All
right
and
the
this
is
september
21st
of
2021,
and
this
is
the
september
meeting
of
the
palm
springs
sustainability
commission,
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
roy
clark
to
get
us
started.
B
C
Sorry,
commissioner,
evans
present.
D
C
Is
an
excused
absence,
commissioner?
Barrett.
B
B
So
I'd
like
to
welcome
everybody
to
the
meeting
tonight,
we
have
a
pretty
long
agenda
and
we
have
a
special
presentation
this
evening
as
well.
If
there
are
visitors,
there'll
be
time
for
public
comments
later
in
the
meeting
and
I'd
ask
that
commissioners,
please
keep
your
microphones
muted
during
the
meeting
and
then
raise
your
hand
to
be
called
just
to
speak
and
then
admit
your
microphones
and
if
you
raise
your
hand
and
you're
not
recognized,
then
then
speak
up
anyway,
because
it's
sometimes
hard
to
see
everybody
who
wants
to
speak.
B
So
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
acceptance
of
the
agenda
and
it
was
emailed
and
posted
on
thursday
september
16th.
Are
there
any
comments
about
the
agenda.
B
Hearing
no
comments
or
objections,
the
agenda
is
accepted
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
staff
comments
with
with
patrick,
and
he
has
listed
his
comments
in
a
an
attachment
to
the
agenda
pack.
A
It
right
thanks
roy,
so
I
have
only
a
couple
of
quick
updates
to
that
agenda
and
I'm
sorry
the
sun's
about
to
go
down
over
the
mountain
and
I'll
look
a
little
less
weird
in
a
minute,
but
I
wanted
to
mention
one
a
little
bit
more
of
an
update
on
the
airport
demonstration
garden.
A
The
bid
for
the
contract
to
install
the
garden
has
been
issued
and
we
expect
responses
back
on
october
14th,
and
at
that
time
we
will
have
a
better
sense
of
timing.
We
have,
we
were
a
little
bit
delayed
in
getting
it
out
over
the
summer.
A
We
hope
to
get
it
out
in
july
or
august,
but
we
may
be
running
into
some
timing
issues
based
on
how
they
plan
to
remove
the
turf
so
we're
waiting
to
see
what
the
responses
are
to
the
solicitation
and
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
timing
of
the
installation
and
so
assuming
that
they
can
go
forward
this
winter
slash
in
early
spring.
We
should
be
okay,
but
if
the
date
pushes
back
past
I
think
february,
then
we
get
into
some
challenges
with
regard
to
planting
in
and
having
it
heat
up.
A
For
the
summer,
so
we're
going
to
monitor
that
as
soon
as
we
get
the
responses
back
to
see
what
the
timing
is,
that
people
think
when
they
think
that
people
can
have
stuff
planted
so
I'll,
keep
you
guys
posted
on
that
I'll
update
you
at
the
next
count
commission
meeting
on
the
status,
I'm
also
going
to
talk
to
the
airport
commission
tomorrow,
just
to
give
them
an
update
as
well.
So
that
was
one
thing
and
then
the
other
thing
I
just
want
to
mention.
We
had
a
lot
of.
A
I
included
a
lot
of
dates
for
the
upcoming
council
meeting
agenda
items
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
all
the
stuff
that's
coming
or
coming
forward
to
counsel
over
the
next
few
months.
It's
a
lot,
and
so
it's
good
to
just
kind
of
have
all
that
stuff
on
our
radar
and
so
we'll
be
working
through
that
list
as
we
go
forward
here.
A
The
next
one,
of
course,
is
on
the
30th
when
we
talk
about
the
scope
of
the
new
franchise
with
palm
springs
disposal,
or
rather
the
updates
to
that
franchise
based
on
sb1383.
B
F
Chair
clark,
I
had
just
one
question
for
from
patrick
patrick:
can
you
give
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
october
28th
purchasing
policy.
A
Yeah
so
as
part
of
sb
1383,
we
are
required
to
update
our
environmentally
preferable
purchasing
policy
and
that
has
been
primarily
focused
on
purchases
of
like
paper,
and
things
like
that.
Sb
1383
requires
us
to
include
purchases
of
organ
reclaimed,
organic
materials
such
as
mulch
and
compost.
A
So
we
have
to
include
provisions
for
that
in
our
policy,
and
it's
also
just
a
good
time
to
update
that
policy
to
include
things
that
have
been
kind
of
heretofore
unwritten,
for
example,
the
prohibition
on
the
use
of
roundup
is
one
thing
we
want
to
include
in
there
the
purchasing
of
recycled
paper,
making
that
that
that
stronger
requirement.
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
will
be
included
in
that.
B
Okay,
so
the
the
next
item
is
public
comments.
I
don't
believe
that
there
are
any
visitors
here
with
public
comments,
so
we'll
move
on
to
presentations
and
I'd
like
to
introduce
andreas
neist
he's
here
to
speak
to
us
tonight.
Andreas
was
educated
in
berlin
and
victoria
british
columbia.
B
B
G
G
Okay,
can
I
can
I
get
going?
Yes,
yeah
feel
free,
okay,
so
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
for
having
me
here.
My
name
is
andreas
gneist.
I'm
aware
that
I
was
given
only
10
minutes,
so
I
went
up
when
I
hush
hush
through
the
slides.
Then
this
is
not
something
that
I
want
to
do
rather
the
opposite,
but
I'm
also
very
much
aware
of
the
fact
that
I
don't
I'm.
I've
been
kindly
invited
to
this
to
this
meeting
and
I
don't
want
to
obviously
outstand
my
welcome
so
in
the
interest
of
time.
G
I
I
immediately
jump
in
and
and
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
what
I
have
in
mind.
I
hope
you've
had
a
chance
to
scan
through
the
slides
in
preparation
to
this,
and
even
also
possibly
even
had
a
look
on
our
website
and
the
watched
one
of
the
youtube
videos
that
that
was
available.
It
helps
a
little
bit
for
the
background.
If
not,
then
I
try
my
best
to
to
make
up
grant
now.
G
So
what
I
would
like
to
speak
to
in
in
the
very
few
minutes
is
give
you
like
a
a
a
sentence
or
two
with
regards
to
the
company
motorcycle
offset
itself
another
sentence.
It
can
only
be
very
high
level,
maybe
one
step
backwards
quickly,
explaining
and
refreshing
our
memories,
what
a
carbon
offset
is
and
and
finally,
from
slides
six
onwards.
G
G
G
Just
trying
to
minimize
this
so
who
we
are,
we
are
a
new
company
set
up
this
year
and
we're
certainly
a
motorcycle
company
more
than
anything
else
which
is
geared
towards
the
the
global
or
western
world.
Global
writing
communities
asking
those
communities
to
not
only
neutralize
their
annual
co2
emissions,
but
go
one
step
further
and
pay
at
least
another
10
extra
to
sequester
carbon
out
of
the
atmosphere
effectively.
G
The
concept
is
you
have
emissions
of
100,
but
you
pay
110
and
effectively.
You
make
things
better
by
at
least
10
percent
than
you
have
found
them
before.
As
a
motorcycle
rider.
G
We
call
this
carbon
negative
writing
and
the
other
arm
of
what
we
do
is
we
provide
those
riders
who
have
offset
their
motorcycle
emissions
with
we
connect
these
riders
with
affiliated
partners,
predominantly
motorcycle
industry
players,
if
you
like
retailers,
others,
but
also
you
know:
hospitality,
restaurants,
cafes,
hotels,
we're
working
on
insurance
companies,
we're
working
on
for
these
partners
to
give
discounts
to
the
riders
who
have
offset
the
first
instance
and
because
the
the
numbers,
the
dollar
amounts
to
offset
an
annual
motorcycle
on
an
annual
basis,
because
those
dollar
numbers
are
so
small
and
the
writers
have
a
very
good
chance,
a
very
good
chance
to
actually
get
their
money
back
and
inverted
commerce
to
recall
the
investment
that
they
initially
did.
G
We're
talking
here
on,
on
an
average
basis
finger
in
the
air,
maybe
25
a
year
per
motorcycle
and
then
quickly
with
regards
to
who
the
company
is.
At
the
moment,
it's
myself
and
my
wife
we're
both
the
co-founders.
G
I
have
had
quite
I've
been
associated
with
a
motorcycle
environment
in
the
uk
in
germany
and
canada
in
the
us
significantly
over
the
years,
mainly
in
advanced
training,
programs
and
event,
organizations
and
marketing
activity.
I
have
for
the
past
year
and
a
half
been
the
board
member
of
the
bmw
motorcycle
owners
of
america.
It's
a
private
club
of
25
000
members
across
the
states,
canada
and
actually
even
beyond
beyond
north
america.
G
So
we
we
we
feel,
and
then
we
have.
We
have
an
advisory
board
as
well,
very
much
corporate
sustainability
emphasis
there
consulting
and
obviously
everybody
is
a
player
in
the
in
the
wider
motorcycle,
an
environment
we
have.
We
have
connections
to
the
university
here
in
victoria,
the
royal
roads
university,
the
tourism
branch
in
particular,
and
this
group
meets
with
us
and
advises
us
carbon
offsets.
I
I
assume,
I
hope
I
don't
bore
you
with
this.
I
bet
literally
what
just
wanted
to
say.
G
One
sentence
to
this:
just
to
refresh
our
memories
through
a
carbon
offset,
you
pay
somebody
else
to
take
the
equivalent
amount
of
co2
out
of
the
atmosphere
which
you
yourself
have
admitted
in
the
first
half
a
minute.
G
In
the
first
instance
in
lehman's
terms,
you
could
say
you
pay
somebody
else
to
clear
up
after
you
and
how
does
this
all
work
the
funds
effectively
if
you
purchase
carbon
offsets
those
funds,
go
all
the
way
down
the
supply
chain
to
the
project
on
the
ground,
the
project
that
either
sequesters
co2
out
of
the
atmosphere
or
reduces
co2
emissions
out
of
the
atmosphere
or
avoids
it
in
the
first
instance
altogether.
G
The
the
carbon
offsets
that
sorry
hold
on
the
carbon
offsets
that
we
work
with
ourselves
are
high
quality
offsets.
They
are
highly
regulated
and
need
to
meet
a
lot
of
significant
selection
criteria
to
ultimately
be
traded
on.
You
know
on
markets
on
commodity
markets,
if
you
like,
so
it
is
not
the
same
situation
as
you
would
have
thought,
maybe
15
20
years
ago,
where
it
was
a
little
bit
the
wild
west,
and
you
know
people
players
could
sell
hot
air.
G
I
I
put
on
this
slide
only
to
show
you
our
position
in
the
supply
chain.
If
you
like,
you
see
here
to
the
right
that
we
have
the
project
on
the
ground,
we
work
together
with
a
an
award-winning
leader
in
the
offset
world.
A
company
called
carbon,
zero
they've
been
around
for
a
decade
and
a
half,
and
they
deal
with
all
the
technical,
administrative
regulatory
audit
portion
of
the
of
of
the
selecting
and
sourcing
projects
and
making
sure
that
the
entire
system,
it
basically
is
complying
with
international
standards.
G
And
now
now
I
start
with
the
section
that
which
is
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
and
hopefully
I
can.
I
can
capture
a
little
bit
of
your
interest
with
regards
to
this.
So
here
are
our
ideas,
here's
sort
of
like
what
we
think
could
could
play
a
part
in
the
palm
springs
strategy
and
plan.
As
you
move
along
with
you
know,
rolling
out
your
sustainability
here
and
action
goals.
All
ideas
that
I
want
to
present
are
meant
to
be.
You
know
integrated
into
your
plans.
G
Nothing
should
work
in
parallel
or
outside,
so
it's
all
meant
to
help
accelerate
achieving
your
goals
and
really
coming
up
with
a
little
bit
more
out
of
the
box,
innovative
thinking
about
certain
things
that
probably
haven't
been
ever
considered,
because
not
many
people
consider
motorcycle
riders
immediately
and
connect
them
with
with
climate
change,
common
offsets
and
things
like
this.
So
in
short,
we've
come
up
with
four
main
points.
One
is
to
obviously
to
promote
and
the
development
of
palm
springs
as
a
premier
ecotourism
testing
destination.
G
The
number
two
in
my
eyes,
a
super
quick
win,
is
offsetting.
The
the
entire
palm
springs
vehicle
fleet
number
three
is
all
about
education
and
engagement
with
palm
springs
residents,
communities
and
and
go
beyond
palm
springs
and
number
four
is
about
rejigging
the
brand
or
branding
of
the
city
of
palm
springs.
I
use
the
word
leadership
here,
but
ultimately
it's
all
about
the
brand.
It's
also
about
integrating
efforts
of
others
both
within
the
city
limits,
but
also
neighboring,
municipalities
and
beyond.
G
So
what
you
see
here
this
roundy
thing
is,
is
what
what
I
would
call
a
a
carbon
offset
investment
that
also
works
as
a
stimulus
with
a
circular
effect
for
businesses
in
palm
springs.
In
other
words,
the
money
invested
does
actually
not
leave
town,
and
what
I
mean
with
this
is
the
following.
I
start
here
at
the
at
the
top
left.
We
look
for
ways
for
marketing
opportunities
to
attract
out-of-town,
motorcycle
riders
and
tell
them
about
the
program.
Tell
tell
them
what
palm
springs
is
all
about.
G
What
this
particular
program
could
be
all
about
and
try
to
entice
them
to
come
into
town.
We
get
those
writers
who
come
into
town
to
collect
a
what
we
call
here.
Simply
a
green
biker
pass.
G
That
could
be
an
online
pickup,
but
I
find
it
much
more
elegant
if
that
was,
for
instance,
something
that
could
would
actually
almost
like
what
the
picture
here
indicates
a
little
ticket.
You
know
something
that
could
be
collected
from
the
couple
of
motorcycle
dealers,
the
dealerships
that
we
have
in
town
in
palm
springs.
It
could
be
a
motorcycle
affiliated
retailers.
G
There
is
a
there
is
a
training
school
in
in
town
as
well,
it
could
be
other
retailers
or
it
could
be
obviously
a
city
facility.
It
could
be,
you
know
the
tourist,
the
tourist
bureau
and
for
every.
If,
for
every
recorded,
pass
being
handed
out,
the
city
would
offset
that
individual
riders,
annual
emission.
G
In
what
the
writer
would
do,
the
writer
would
effectively
get
the
pass
and
the
pass
would
incentivize
or
would
would
enable
the
the
writer
to
make
a
use
of
discounts
which
again
the
palm
springs
retailer
landscape
would
provide.
Ideally
in
my
world
those
would
be
green
businesses.
It
could
be
anything
I'm
not
the
expert
here
I
would
look
for
you
know
expert
help,
but
I
could
see
that
the
palm
springs
you
know.
G
Green
business
partnership
program
is
something
that
may
provide
an
angle
to
to
this
and
almost
recognizing
those
green
businesses
even
more
if
they,
if
they,
you
know,
get
green
motorcycles
into
into
their
shop
into
their
restaurants
and
so
on.
G
Further
on
a
this
will
obviously
have
a
positive
business
impact
on
the
local
business,
the
communities
as
well,
but
I
see
this
almost
as
an
impact
that
goes
beyond
the
economic,
economic
numbers
and
the
balance
sheet.
You
know
retailers
could
be
further
engaged
into
the
sustainability
plan.
G
They
see
the
benefit
of
it,
and
ultimately
everything
that
I'm
talking
about
here
is
have
communities
and
have
the
individual
person
see
the
value
of
acting
towards
or
against
climate
change
in
full
climate
change
activities,
and
seeing
this
value
is
something
which
is
very
important
to
me
and
it
needs
to
be.
It
needs
to
be
tangible,
and
in
this
particular
case
I
just
look
at
the
green
writer
pass
and
I
could
also
look
into
the
local
business
who
sees
an
advantage
and
maybe
others
join
along
and
move
on.
G
So
the
next,
the
point
number
two
from
my
list
was
how
about
I
called
it.
Early,
quick,
win,
palms
palm
springs
could
very
quickly
and
very
easily
offset
the
entire
palm
springs
police
department,
motorcycle
fleet.
I
do
not
know
how
many
bikes
there
I've
heard
that
the
number
is
very,
very
low.
It
could
be
in
the
single
digits,
but
I
do
not
know
the
number
I
have
assumed.
G
If
it
were
25
motorcycles,
it
would
cost
the
city
of
palm
springs
less
than
600
bucks
annually
to
do
that
for
25
bikes.
I
think
it's
single
digits,
so
you
see
that
the
number
could
be
much
much
smaller.
It's
an
exercise
that
we
could
do
in
10
minutes.
I'm
not
exaggerating
10
minutes
exercise
to
do
this,
and
it
would
then,
of
course,
have
all
the
the
branding
opportunities
for
the
for
the
city,
the
leading
by
example.
G
Nobody
else
in
the
world.
I
don't
have
the
the
evidence
for
this,
but
I'm
99.9
sure
nobody
else
in
the
world
does
this
for
their
municipal
police
motorcycle
fleet.
It
would
certainly
be
a
a
pilot
point.
Three
that
I
mentioned
is
all
about
engagement.
It's
about
innovation,
it's
about
changing,
long-term
behavioral
patterns,
and
I
just
wanted
to
throw
a
few
things
out.
Last
month
I
spoke
in
preparation
of
this
meeting.
I
spoke
to
the
dmv
in
california
and
asked
them
how
many
motorcycles
are
actually
in
palm
springs.
G
What
about
if
the
city
offset
them
all
in
one
go
would
have
an
immediate
direct
impact
on
the
palm
springs.
You
know
carbon
balance
sheet,
if
you
like
what
about,
if
any
new
motorcycle
purchases,
in
particular
the
two
motorcycle
dealerships
that
are
in
town,
what
about?
If
the
dealers
were
part
of
the
process
to
offset
any
new
motorcycle
purchases,
the
city
could
be
part
of
that
equation.
G
We
could
figure
out
whether
the
city
we
should
still
pay
for
the
the
annual
25.
I
call
it
the
dealer
may
could
chip
in
something
the
customer
needs
to
be
informed
about
it.
G
No
doubt-
and
I
see
the
opportunity
here-
to
bring
the
entire
concept
of
the
value
also
again
not
only
to
the
dealers
and
the
businesses
but
again
to
the
end
consumer,
in
this
case
the
motorcycle
rider
point:
what
about
giving
palm
springs,
resident
writers,
access
to
the
aforementioned
green
writer,
pass
to
incentivize
them
to
to
eat
out
locally,
go
to
the
restaurant
locally.
G
You
know
everybody
likes
a
little
freebie
and
if
it's
just
you
know
five
dollars
of
your
your
dinner
bill
it
it
does
get
people
off
the
couch
and
go
into
town
and
again
it's
a
and
the
final
point
is
obviously
free
motorcycle
parking,
and
I
don't
need
to
explain
that.
But
again
you
see
my
way
of
thinking.
How
can
a
value
to
to
the
offset
and
being
part
of
the
the
movement?
How
can
that
be
manifestated?
G
What
can
we
do
and
any
writer
who
is
aware
of
the
fact
that
the
city
offsets
his
or
her
bike
and
gets
this
access
to
the
free
path
pass
sees?
There
is
a
value
to
this,
and
maybe
they
are
encouraged
to
do
something
themselves.
Maybe
for
you
too,
I'm
coming
to
the
end.
I
know
I
exceed
my
time
a
little
bit.
This
is,
I
call
this
slide
leadership
and
collaboration,
but
really
what
I,
what
I
want
to
do
is
it's
a
bit
of
a
summary.
G
I've
tried
to
piece
together
here
some
of
the
big
ticket
items
that
I
sort
of
like
have
found
on
the
palm
springs
sustainability
plan,
the
goals,
the
other.
You
know,
big
words
that
are
out
there
and
connect
them
with
more
tactical
actions.
G
Action
steps
if
you
like,
pretty
much
the
reflection
of
the
last
three
or
four
slides
and,
of
course
you
know
leadership.
I
translate
this
into
strategy.
If
you
like
collaboration,
I
translate
this
into
more
the
technical
things,
so
you
could
possibly
see
the
more
you
know
strategic
things
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
slide,
the
the
tactical
stuff,
the
hands-on
stuff
is
more
on
the
right-hand
side,
but
it's
very
easy
for
all
of
us
to
know
you
know,
identify
triple
bottom
line.
You
know
everything
that
we
do
needs
to
basically
consider
people.
G
It
needs
to
consider,
of
course,
the
business,
but
it
also
needs
to
consider
the
environment
of
the
planet.
A
points
like
this,
the
the
the
the
fact
that
everything
the
city
wants
to
do
with
regards
to
sustainability
has
to
be
quantifiable.
It
needs
to
be
auditable,
it
needs
to
be
explainable.
G
There
needs
to
be
a
time
frame
to
the
roi.
If
you
like
to
the
returns.
Of
course,
we
want
to
put
things
on
a
innovatively
on
a
broader
climate
strategy,
and
if
I
take
these
points
just
as
examples,
I
can
at
least
in
my
head
connect
that
very
quickly
to
already
existing
things
on
the
ground
in
palm
springs.
G
I
mentioned
earlier
the
green
business
partnership
program,
but
I
I
see
retailers
and
restaurants
in
town.
I
see
the
the
motorcycle
industry
there
and,
of
course,
from
a
scalability
perspective.
I
know
this
is
important
with
from
you
know,
with
all
the
impact
that
we
would
like
to
make,
what
happens
to
our
neighbors
in
the
valley,
the
municipal
neighbors,
the
you
know,
cathedral
cities,
the
palm
deserts
of
this
world.
What
can
we
do
together
with
them?
Can
we
connect
and
get?
G
You
know
from
a
procurement
perspective,
better
deals
on
offsets
group
purchases.
What
kind
of
community
engagement
can
we
do
individual
writers
and
so
on?
You
know
I
could
have
probably
thrown
three
times
as
many
words
onto
this
spreadsheet,
but
I
hope
you
get
the
drift.
How
much
opportunity
is
in
in
in
this
project.
G
Almost
at
the
end.
Roy
in
preparation
to
this
meeting
asked
me
to
pull
some
numbers
together.
Now
you
can.
You
can
very
quickly
see
that
this
is.
This
is
a
small
project
in
relation
to
the
overall
annual
emissions
of
co2
of
the
city
of
palm
springs,
but
the
great
benefit
in
it
is.
It
is
very
low
risk
because
of
this
as
a
pilot
project,
you
can
tweak
you
can
adjust.
G
G
B
G
And
I
have
one
more
if,
if
you
were
inclined
to
hear
a
little
bit
more,
I
I
plan
to
be
in
palm
springs
if,
between
the
1st
and
8th
of
october
week
after
next
and
I'd
be
delighted
to
you
know,
have
a
more
in-depth
q,
a
numbers
time
frames
anything
else
that
that
comes
to
mind
face
to
face
which
may
you
know,
provide
a
little
bit
more.
It's
not
so
rushed.
B
So
now
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item
in
the
agenda
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes.
That
is
the
minutes
of
the
july
20th
meeting
meeting.
The
minutes
were
sent
out
with
the
agenda
packet
on
the
16th
of
of
september.
Are
there
any
comments
or
questions
or
changes
for
the
minutes?.
B
Thank
you
second.
B
A
All
right,
thanks
roy,
so
I
am
sharing
this
document
that
I
sent
out
over
the
weekend.
I
updated
the
material
based
on
the
results
of
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory,
update
that
we
did
recently.
So
I
think
that
provides
actually
some
really
good
additional
context
for
what
we're
doing
here.
A
A
A
But
as
you
look
forward
2030,
we
need
to
go
to
almost
half
of
that
and
then
cut
that
even
further
in
2050.
So
so
those
are
kind
of
the
big
picture,
high
level
goals
that
we
are
aiming
for
and
this
provided
this
graph.
I
think
I
showed
this
at
one
of
the
previous
meetings.
A
Just
shows
you
how
much
we
were
able
to
offset
or
reduce
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
the
last
year,
based
on
participation
in
desert,
community
energy,
primarily,
but
also
some
of
the
other
activities
that
have
been
going
on
with
regard
to
cleaner
fuel
standards,
as
well
as
increased
dv
adoption,
and
things
like
that,
so
that
is
kind
of
where
we
are
right
now
and
then,
as
you
can
see,
we've
got
quite
a
ways
to
go
for
the
to
meet
those
other
other
goals.
A
The
other
thing
that
I
included
in
here
was
just
a
summary
of
the
sectors
that
make
up
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory,
and
so
you
can
see
from
that
that
transportation
is
by
far
our
biggest
source
of
emissions
and,
to
a
certain
extent,
there's
things
that
we
can
do
about
that
to
another
extent
because
of
where
we
are
and
the
highway
that
runs
through
our
city
at
the
north
end,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
coming
and
going
so
again.
A
We
can
control
some
of
that,
but
maybe
not
a
lot
and
then
the
residential
energy
is
another
area
that
we
can
focus
our
attention
on
as
well
as
commercial
industrial
energy.
So
so
those
sectors,
the
the
energy
use
and
transportation
are
certainly
the
biggest
contributors
for
us.
But
of
course,
we
can
also
make
gains
in
the
area
of
solid
waste
by
reducing
waste,
to
landfill
and
also
water
and
wastewater
some
efficiencies
there.
A
So
what
I
did
was
updated
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
are
thinking
about
in
terms
of
moving
forward,
including
expanding
the
eb
charging
network,
which
should
be
underway
soon,
developing
more
of
a
walkable
city
through
the
walkability
plan
that
we're
developing
reinstating
some
shuttles
in
town
or
some
public
transit
services,
as
well
as
incr,
increasing
non-motorized
transportation
like
like
bike
biking
and
walking,
and
then
we
are
continuing
to
do
some
analyses
with
place,
works
to
identify
additional
opportunities
for
transportation,
related
reductions
and
so
we'll
be
increasing
this
list.
A
As
we
go
forward
with
conversations
with
them
on
the
residential
and
commercial
building
side,
we
have
a
number
of
things
that
we've
done,
including
desert
community
energy,
doing
giving
people
access
to
home
energy
assessments.
I
got
another
call
about
that
this
week,
but
it's
certainly
a
program
that
we
could
expand
and
then
a
couple
of
things
that
we
will
talk
more
about
in
today's
meeting,
which
is
home,
energy
efficiency
and
also
commercial
businesses,
especially
cannabis
businesses
trying
to
target
those
larger
facilities
for
energy
reductions.
A
Because
if
you
look
back
at
the
the
targets
that
we
have,
we
can't
increase
emissions.
Even
though
I
know
that
we
are
going
to
continue
to
grow,
so
we
have
to
be
conscious
of
that,
moving
forward
and
figuring
out
ways
to
offset
the
the
emissions
from
growth
in
in
various
ways.
So
so
that's
certainly
something
that
we
need
to
be
conscious.
F
A
And
thinking
about
hard
as
we
move
forward
and
then
other
things
that
we've
talked
about
is
you
know
addressing
missions
from
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
as
well
as
implementing
the
new
organics
waste
management
requirements
which
could
have
an
impact
on
our
waste
numbers
to
bring
those
down,
but
also,
more
importantly,
on
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
that
we
emit
as
a
result
of
wasted
organic
material,
and
so
the
other
thing
I
did
with
this
version
of
the
climate
action
roadmap
was
to
add
a
section
on
addressing
climate
impacts.
A
This
is
something
again
that
place
works
is
working
on
as
part
of
the
general
plan
update,
so
we'll
have
more
information
on
climate
vulnerabilities,
and
so
we
can
address
those
as
they
identify
them.
But
a
couple
of
examples
that
have
come
up
so
far
is
one
is
allowing
outdoor
workers
to
start
earlier
in
the
summer
months.
A
Those
are
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
populations,
especially
with
the
rising
heat,
so
thinking
about
ways
that
we
can
address
the
the
needs
that
they
may
have
moving
forward
and
also
developing
more
of
a
response
plan
for
climate
related
events.
A
But
again,
the
purpose
of
this
document
is
really
to
provide
counsel
with
some
ideas
about
what
we've
done
and
what
we
plan
to
do
in
the
area
of
client
to
address
climate
change
and
get
their
feedback
about
other
things
that
they
might
have
in
mind
or
other
things
that
they
feel
we
should
be
looking
into
so
so
anyway.
So
that's
that's
the
status
of
the
climate
action
roadmap
and
a
couple
people
have
sent
me
additional
thoughts
about
things
that
they,
I
think
might
we
might
want
to
include
in
that
that
list.
A
Ultimately,
what
happens
to
this?
Is
it
most
likely
gets
integrated
into
our
strategic
planning
effort
and
so
that
it
is
codified
somewhere
so
that
we
can
work
towards
achieving
the
items
that
are
in
here?
So
it's
not
a
stand-alone
document.
E
I
I
have
one
patrick
yep,
so
if
I
have
three
or
four
more
future
action
recommendations,
do
you
think
it's
better
to
email
them
to
you
than
to
present
them
here.
E
Oh,
I
think
we
missed
out
on
zoning
and
density
changes,
gated
communities
and
single
family
dwellings,
shade
trees,
I'd
like
to
see,
and
then
I'm
still
curious
at
why
we're
running
the
cogen
plant.
If
that's
it's
like
running
a
coal
power
plant
outside
the
city
of
that,
are
we
going
to
shut
that
down
eventually
so
kind
of
curious
about
that
yeah.
A
So
I
think
shade
structures
are
an
awesome
idea,
so
shading
in
general,
I
think,
is
a
topic
that
we
can
really
dive
into
and
figure
out.
If
there
are
some
creative
ways
to
do
that
doing
the
shade
trees
concerns
me
just
a
little
bit
just
because
of
the
drought
situation.
D
I
had
it's
sort
of
similar
to
what
hammer
and
glide
gems
said
it
about
shade
trees.
We
could
reduce
the
number
of
palm
trees
and
and
replace
them
with
shade,
trees
or
or
not
have
as
much
palm
waste
or
have
something
that
accumulates
dust,
some
a
shade
tree
or
similar
that
accumulates
dust
and
helps
make
the
air
better
rather
than
using
palm
trees.
I
know
that's
a
sensitive
issue,
but
it
I'll
be
I'll.
Come
back
on
that
at
some
other
point,.
F
Yeah
really
quickly
and
patrick
I'll,
send
you
an
email.
The
news,
even
from
just
yesterday
a
few
days
ago,
refer
on
the
acknowledgement
section
to
the
recent
ipcc
working
group
report,
which
the
un
secretary
general
declared
to
code
red
for
humanity,
referring
climate
impacts
to
2021
being
the
hottest
summer
on
record
and
yesterday's
white
house
announcement
of
all
of
government
efforts
to
protect
workers,
children
seniors
and
at-risk
communities
for
extreme
heat,
because
the
feds
have
literally
yesterday
from
the
president
on
down
said.
This
is
a
priority.
F
I'd
like
to
see
solar,
app
implementation
included
on
the
residential
and
commercial
buildings,
because
that's
a
very
low
hanging
fruit
that
no
cost
to
the
city
and
promotes
ease
of
installation
of
our
solar
facilities.
And
then
I
can
work
with
you.
I'd
like
to
see
a
section
on
water
issues
that
we
do
have
so,
particularly
since
drought
is
caused
by
climate
change.
F
We
can
mention
some
of
the
actions
the
city's
taking
produce
water
and
consumption
and
things
that
the
residents
can
do,
and
businesses
and
visitors,
such
as
her
for
the
airport
project
and
rebates
for
irrigation
audits
and
stricter
water
efficiency
requirements
for
new
homes.
So
I'll
put
that
in
email.
Some
of
I
can
go
on
the
staff
report
and
I'll
work
with
you
on
the
staff
report
for
our
next
committee
meeting
or
can
go
in
the
main
plan.
But
those
are
my
main
sort
of
thoughts.
D
F
Okay,
this
is
part
of
the
climate
action
road
map
and-
and
I
think
the
idea
that
I've
worked
out
with
patrick,
I
think,
is
that
we
would
include
this
proposal
in
the
materials
to
give
some
context
in
the
staff
report
to
give
some
context
of
what's
in
the
in
the
climate
action
roadmap,
because
what's
one
of
the
key
drivers
here
on
the
state
policy,
in
addition
to
the
overall
ghg
reduction
on
the
sata
set
a
goal
of
reducing
building
ghg
emissions,
also
40
by
2030
and
the
california,
energy
commission
has
identified
energy
efficiency
as
one
of
the
seven
broad
building
decarbonization
strategies.
F
So
the
energy
commission,
which
I'm
working
very
closely
with,
is
really
encouraging
local
governments
to
focus
on
energy
efficiency
for
existing
residential
buildings.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
california
energy
code,
but
this
is
an
area
where
the
energy
code
doesn't
really
get
into
and
the
state
wants
to
see
local
governments
work
on
their
existing
buildings.
F
So
the
state
codes
and
standards
program
that
advises
the
energy
commission
has
been
working
with
me
to
develop
a
proposal
to
cover
our
existing
home
energy
sustainability.
F
That
ordinance
is
based
on
one
recently
adopted
by
chula
vista,
and
essentially
it
requires
homeowners
that
pull
building
permits
to
carry
out
energy
efficiency
upgrades
bringing
their
homes
in
line
with
energy
requirements
for
new
homes.
So
kind
of
just
basically
brings
you
up
to
code,
so
I've
been
working
very
closely
with
the
consultants
with
very
detailed
cost
effectiveness.
F
Data
and
the
model
just
shows
that
the
these
measures
would
save
homeowners
money
reduce
our
community-wide
ghg
emissions
and
energy
consumption
and
then
also
for
extreme
heat.
They
would
assist
in
adapting
our
older
housing
stock
to
extreme
heat
and,
as
I
mentioned,
a
lot
of
the
older
houses
and
mine
included
before
my
renovations
simply
did
not
have
any
insulation.
F
So
the
proposal,
that's
included
in
the
meeting
package,
is
largely
based
on
the
materials
I
presented.
The
june
commission
meeting.
The
ordinance,
if
approved
by
city
council,
would
also
have
to
be
approved
by
the
energy
commission
and
the
one
key
change
from
what
I
previously
presented
was
requested
by
the
cec
to
comply
with
the
energy
code.
F
So,
instead
of
having
a
specific
number
of
energy
efficiency
measures
based
on
the
value
of
your
permit,
they're
weighted
under
a
point
system
by
their
energy
savings
and
I'm
working
with
the
consultant
to
refine
the
scoring
based
on
the
template
that
they've
just
released
to
the
system,
the
the
local
governments.
F
So
at
this
point,
I'm
requesting
the
commission
to
reconfirm
that
the
proposal
be
submitted.
City
council
is
part
of
the
road
map
and
then
for
them
to
provide
direction
for
us
to
continue
work
on
the
proposal,
conduct
outreach
and
then
to
bring
a
draft
ordinance
to
council
for
consideration,
and
the
codes
and
standards
program
is
also
just
released
to
draft
ordinance.
And
that
will
be
my
starting
point
so
I'll
be
able
to
draft
it.
F
This
is
one
patrick
where
I
think
I
probably
with
the
benefit
of
state
consultants,
can
do
a
lot
of
the
work
and
I
don't
think
I
need
to
get
a
new
consultant
for
this
one,
because
at
least
for
the
moment
the
state's
been
giving
me
a
fairly
large
amount
of
resources.
F
We
hit
the
kind
of
a
good
point
of
the
timing
and
it's
possible
that
if
we
do
this,
we
could
be
the
first
city
to
adopt
the
new
standards,
and
then
everybody
can
follow
what
we
call
the
palm
springs
model,
so
there's
a
this
could
potentially
be,
and
this
will
go
on
the
patrick
and
the
staff
report.
This
could
be
a
really
good
example
of
leading
by
exam,
leading
by
example
for
the
rest
of
the
valley,
because
the
data
are
exactly
the
same
throughout
the
coachella
valley
and
then
other
other
local
jurisdictions.
F
So
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done.
Patrick
the
one
area
where
I
think
I'll
need
to
sit
down
with
you
is
on
the
multifamily,
whether
that's
even
worth
the
effort
or
not.
I
have
to
talk
to
the
consultants
to
see
when
they're
going
to
update
their
data
and
just
to
get
more
more
data.
On
that
I
I
can
see
this
definitely.
D
Then
yes,
yeah,
just
not
a
question
just
a
point
in
the
mobile
home
parks,
their
permitting
for
remodeling
and
such
goes
to
riverside
county,
not
through
the
city.
So
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
how
you
would
gain
their
attention
when
they're
permitting
when
they
are
making
adjustments.
F
This
is,
as
I
think
you
know,
don
the
great
conundrum
of
state
law,
the
difference
between
title
24
and
title
25.
This
is
a
title.
24
program,
which
means
manufactured
homes
are
governed
by
title
25
and
that's
the
state,
and
this
literally
does
not
go
there.
It's
a
title,
24
program,
so
that
raises
other
whole
bunch
of
other
issues
and
what
the
city
could
potentially
be
doing,
and
I've
got
some
thoughts
on
that.
But
the
short
answer
is
manufactured.
Homes
are
governed
by
title
25
and
not
not
not
affected
by
this.
F
Yeah
I
mean
that
can
be
reflected
in
in
the
materials.
That's
a
whole,
you
know
what
to
do
with
title.
25
is
a
whole
sort
of
separate
issue
and
I'll
address
that
slightly
when
I
go
to
talk
about
dc,
because
I've
been
thinking
about
that.
A
So
don
so
the
permits
don't
go
to
the
city,
permitting
offices.
They
go
directly
to
riverside
county.
D
F
Put
that
in
the
staff
report
done,
but
thank
you
for
for
mentioning
that,
because
I
can
clarify
that
this
only
affects
single
and
multi-family
homes.
It'd.
D
F
At
least
or
something
yeah
and
and
once
again
the
challenge
is,
I'm
not
even
sure
I
have
the
data
for
that.
F
D
E
Oh
first
off,
thank
you
david.
I
looked
through
this.
You
did
a
lot
of
work
on
it.
It
looks
great
and
since
I
used
to
review
these
things
for
a
living,
I
just
kind
of
skimmed
some
of
the
numbers.
A
couple
things
you
might
want
to
update.
I
noticed
in
seeing
and
the
water
heater
cost
looks
like
you're
using
the
incremental
cost,
which
is
about
200
it
should
those
should
be
using
retrofit
costs,
so
it
should
be
like
2500.
E
I
think
we
used
to
use
incremental
cost
for
calculating
program
savings,
so
you
might
want
to
look
through
some
of
those
and
make
sure
that
you're
using
retrofit
costs
instead
of
incremental
yeah
and
then
the
other
thing.
That's
tripped
us
up
on
some
filings
that
we
did.
Why
is
we
have
a
large
amount
of
seasonal
occupation
homes?
I
would
say
about
75
percent
of
the
folks
in
my
neighborhood
are
gone
all
summer
long,
so
you
have
to
readjust
the
run
operation
hours
and
cut
them
in
half
for
a
lot
of
the
homes.
E
So
you
probably
should
take
that
into
effect,
because
it
really
affects
cost
effectiveness
quite
a
bit
and
then
the
third
thing
is
the
building.
Costs
have
changed
quite
a
bit
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
so
things
like
windows
have
gone
up
a
bunch,
so
he
might
want
to
make
sure
that
he's
got
the
newest
numbers
in
there
I
know
redoing.
All
your
windows
in
your
house
for
nine
thousand
bucks
would
be
kind
of
hard.
E
I'm
sure
you
probably
should
take
a
look
at
those
before
you
finish
it
up
and
that's
about
it.
One
other
thing
I'll
point
out
too,
is
the
led
lighting.
That's
by
by
law,
the
lighting
codes,
we're
going
to
be
100
led
and
then
the
trump
administration
kind
of
obliterated
that
the
doe
is
meeting
next
week
to
kind
of,
hopefully
put
those
back
into
place
so
hopefully
led
light,
bulbs
will
be
mandatory.
Incandescent
light
bulbs
will
be
out
loud
by
probably
sometime
next
month,
so
that
may
or
may
continue.
F
All
right,
thanks
jim
all,
the
numbers
are
the
ones.
Unfortunately,
I
have
to
use
because
those
are
the
ones
are
provided
by
the
state,
so
their
state.
Well,
there
are
numbers
for
each
of
climate
zone,
and
so
those
are
the
numbers
that
the
state
gives
you
and
because
this
has
to
be
approved
by
the
state.
Those
are
the
numbers
that
I
use
the
one
thing
that
I
would
say
for
why
it's
two
hundred
dollars
for
water
is
that
it's
not
actually
a
water
heater.
F
F
You're
you're
actually
correct
a
heat
pump,
water
heater,
which
is
a
whole.
That's
an
electrification
measure,
that's
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
for
a
heat
pump
water
heater,
but
putting
some
insulation
around
your
water
heater,
which
is
what
the
water
efficiency
package
is,
is
two
hundred
dollars.
F
So
that's
basically-
and
that
also
includes
some
low
flow
faucet
thing.
So
that's
where
that
two
hundred
dollars
comes
from
as
opposed
to
2500.
I
don't
think
a
heat
pump,
water
heater
standalone
would
be
cost
effective
in
in
our
climate
zone.
So
that's
why
that's,
I
think,
not
directly
part
of
the
package
yeah.
I
have
a
tank
with
water
heater.
E
F
Yeah
yeah,
all
of
this
has
to
be
cost
effective
under
the
energy
code.
So
these
are
the
numbers
that
the
consultants
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
on,
and
so
they
kind
of
give
me
the
input
and
that's
what
the
energy
commission.
So
we
have
to
present
that
okay.
E
F
E
You
do
it
at
a
population
level
and
then
you
adjust
the
population,
so
it
changes
the
cost
effectiveness.
How
we
do
it
utility
filings,
but
I
don't
know
how
what
they're
doing
who's-
I
don't
know
the
guy.
I
don't
know
this
guy,
that's
done
this,
so
I
can't
comment,
but
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
him
if
you
want,
if
you
want
to
give
him
my
number.
E
Yeah
she
is
so
it's
her
team.
It's
her.
E
F
E
F
Okay,
so
I
think
patrick
I'll
I'll
update
this
I'll
work
with
the
consultant
and
then
we'll
have
a
slightly
revised
version,
I'll
check,
I'll
I'll
ping.
The
consultants
tomorrow
and
also
jim
I'll,
raise
the
question
and
sort
of
tell
this
dude.
She
may
expect
to
call
her
an
email
from
you
to
see
if
they
have
any
work
around.
For
that,
I
think
the
answer
is
no,
but
I'll.
Let
them.
F
All
right
so
patrick
I'll
tweet,
this
and
we'll
have
it
for
the
committee
meeting
in
two
weeks.
B
And
david,
did
you
request
or
suggest
that
we
have
a
consensus
by
the
commission
to
move
yeah.
F
I
think
so,
basically,
it
was
sort
of
a
reconfirm
that
this
is
part
of
the
climate
action
roadmap.
I
don't
want
patrick
you
know
and
and
and
check
clark
how
much
you
want
as
a
vote,
but
that's
obviously
you
know
the
objective
of
that.
This
is
part
of
what's
presented
to
city
council,
with
the
request
for
their
direction.
To
give
us,
you
know
the
green
light
to
proceed
with
more
work.
B
F
All
right,
thank
you
further
for
that
and
I'll
continue
working
with
with
the
with
the
consultant
on
on
this
and
and
and
it
sort
of
hits
a
lot
of
hot
buttons
on
the
road
map
of
of
ghg
and
climate
impact
and
energy
savings,
because
it's
a
kind
of
multi-benefit
proposal
here.
B
A
So
I
think
tracy's
gonna
update
you
guys
on
what
we've
received
to
date
we're
off
to
a
little
bit
of
a
slow
start,
but
I
think
that's
gonna
increase
as
we
advertise
it
more
so
tracy.
What
have
we
got.
C
We
are
attending
a
chamber
event
tomorrow
evening,
the
business
expo
and
taste
of
palm
springs.
So
we
have
prepared
packets
to
give
to
all
of
the
restaurants
and
food
vendors
that
are
in
attendance,
so
they
can
peruse
the
materials
and
then
also
we
anticipate
bringing
the
consultant
on
in
the
next.
C
I'm
going
to
say
patrick
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
but
30
days,
ish,
and
that
technical
support
will
really
be
key
to
aid
in
our
communications
with
food,
vendors
and
restaurants,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
things
going
on
right
now.
So
while
we
just
have
the
one
approved,
we
have
an
inquiry
and
then,
as
patrick
indicated,
there
was
a
also
a
call
for
a
home
energy
assessment.
So
the
momentum
is
there
any
questions.
F
Yeah,
the
one
point,
patrick
that
I've
raised
is,
and
we
need
to
do
a
lot
more
work,
but
working
with
ashley
to
bolt
on
water,
irrigation
audits
onto
the
home
energy
assessment
program.
That's
a
lot
of
work
and
I'm
still
struggling
just
to
do
it
myself.
So
it's
not
a
not
a
slam
dunk,
but
and
that
can
go
potentially
in
the
road
map.
But
I
I
I
think
the
funds
are
there.
F
You
know
to
give
a
hundred
dollars
for
that
as
well,
but
we
have
to
do
a
lot
of
homework
to
figure
out
who
does
this
and
what
you
can
get?
It's
not
regulated
the
way
the
other
ones
are
like
the
like.
The
doe
and
similar
programs
right.
A
And
as
we've
learned,
even
with
the
home
energy
assessments,
you
there's
a
wide
variety
of
folks
that
are
doing
that
and
different
products
that
they
produce,
and
that
was
actually
the
nature
of
the
question
that
we
got
with
regard
to
the
most
recent
inquiry
was
he's
like
I
went
to
the
website
and
I
can't
quite
figure
out
who
I
should
hire,
and
so
you
have
any
recommendations
so
anyway.
So
that
was
clear
that
we
need
to
be
clear
about
who
can
provide
these
services.
F
Yeah
the
challenge
is,
though,
I
think
there's
only
two
people
in
the
valley
that
you
the
do
at
least
the
home
the
focus,
your
sort
of
pre-purchase
home
assessments,
audits
that
they're
also
qualified
for
this
other
people
may
say
that
they
do
it,
but
there's
not
that
much
regulation
right.
D
A
So
I
I
think
this
could
speak
to
a
bigger
issue.
You
know
the
the
city
governments
in
general,
I
think,
are
loathed
to
recommend
a
particular
provider,
but
I
think
in
this
kind
of
a
program
it
it
warrants
us,
maybe
interviewing
a
few
people
if
they're
interested
in
participating
and
maybe
assessing
their.
A
You
know
references
or
something
like
that
to
maybe
put
together
some
sort
of
a
list
that
is
certainly
can
be
added
to
it's,
not
necessarily
exclusive,
but
it
would
provide
people
with
a
little
bit
more
comfort,
I
think,
on
who
they
might
be
hiring
so.
F
B
A
No
david,
why
don't
I
I'd
give
a
little
context
for
this
one
too.
So
I
know
this
is
our.
I
kept
forgetting
this
is
our
first
meeting
in
a
couple
of
months.
So
welcome
back
everybody,
but
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
during
that
hiatus
was
an
a
topic,
went
forward
to
the
planning
commission
and
then
through
to
council.
A
It
was
a
large
expansion
of
a
cannabis
facility
and
there
were
concerns
about
the
amount
of
energy
that
that
facility
was
going
to
use
when
operating,
and
so
the
planning
commission
couldn't
really
take
action
on
it,
because
there
is
no
ordinance
for
them
under
which
that
they
can
kind
of
take
action.
A
So
they
wanted
to
do
a
special
meeting
on
perhaps
developing
an
ordinance
that
would
require
cannabis
facilities,
in
particular
to
get
clean,
energy
or
carpet-free
energy.
A
And
so
this
was
a
topic
that
the
the
solar
and
green
building
committee
had
been
working
on
a
little
bit
actually
before
we
took
off
for
covid,
and
we
had
david
have
been
working
on
developing
a
draft
ordinance
and
it
included
commercial
businesses.
A
I
think,
as
well
as
cannabis
facilities,
and
so
the
that
draft
was
put
forward
to
the
s
planning
commission
at
a
meeting
at
the
end
of
august
and
or
I'm
sorry
september
1st,
and
they
discussed
that
and
sort
of
punted
it
back
to
us
to
do
something
with
so.
David
has
been
working
on
kind
of
with
our
legal
folks
to
update
that
draft
of
that
ordinance.
A
And
so
that's
what
we
wanted
to
run
by
you
tonight
and
then
get
your
feedback
and
then
do
we've
been
asked
to
do
more
outreach
with
the
regulated
community
and
then
bring
it
back
to
you
all
for
for
final
approval.
So
so
david
all
right.
F
Thanks
thanks
for
the
introduction
and
for
those
of
you
who
were
on
the
commission
in
early,
you
know
january
2020.
You
may
recognize
this
and
for
those
of
you
who
have
joined
us
since
then.
This
is
your
first
take
take
a
look,
but
it's
essentially
very
strongly
based
on
what
I
had
done
almost
two
years
ago.
F
So
the
biggest
challenge
that
I
faced
in
bringing
the
ordinance
back
is
getting
some
reliable
data
on
energy
and
water
use
by
the
cannabis
industry
and
the
data
that
the
city
environmental
impact
consultant
had
been
using
was
outdated.
F
So
once
again,
I
called
in
my
chits,
with
the
folks
at
the
energy
commission
and
they've,
been
very
helpful
of
providing
me
data
and
putting
me
in
contact
with
their
consultant
to
use
the
data
set
that
the
energy
commissioners
used
for
the
canada's
rules
and
the
new
energy
code
that
I'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
and
there
in
the
slide
presentation
to
the
planning
commission
that
you
have
on
in
in
our
agenda
packet.
So
I've
given
patrick
the
contact
details
of
the
consultant,
so
he
can
retain
the
consultant.
F
Prepare
formal
reports
support
the
ordinance
findings
and
calculate
potential
ghe
impact
of
the
cannabis
cultivation
industry
and
based
on
preliminary
indications
from
the
energy
commission
consultant,
then,
the
city's
environmental
impact
consult,
which
has
now
updated
their
estimates,
the
permitted
cultivators
and
those
with
permit
spending,
would
substantially
increase
ghg
emissions
if
they
don't
power
their
operations
with
renewable
energy
and
the
facility
that
kind
of
sort
of
caused
us
all
to
to
come
before,
planning,
commission
and
council
with
their
concerns.
F
They
would
potentially
this
one
facility
would
result
in
a
10
increase
in
our
commercial
and
industrial
ghe.
So
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
potential
tonnage
out
there.
So,
as
patrick
mentioned,
we're
going
to
hold
the
stakeholder
outreach
session
later,
this
fall
before
bringing
the
ordinance
before
council
of
the
five
permitted
and
currently
operating
cultivators
three
remain
or
on
dc's
carbon
free
program.
One
opted
down
the
desert
saver
and
then
that
one
opted
out,
and
so
who
may
come
back
in.
F
So
I
guess
the
objective
for
the
stakeholder
outreach
session
is
we'll,
have
dc
present
their
carbon
free
program,
its
costs,
and
also
outreach
to
reach
out
to
sce,
because
they
have
a
100
renewable
energy
product
which
be
eligible
for
the
ordinance
as
well,
and
then
I'm
going
to
work
with
dc
and
sc
to
gather
data
on
how
many
businesses
would
be
required
to
purchase
renewable
energy.
If
that
part
of
the
draft
ordinance
is
included,
that's
direction
from
the
planning
commission,
it's
in
the
ordinance.
F
It
was
in
the
original
ordinance,
but
we
need
to
find
out
just
how
many
people
are
involved
and
how
many
are
already
on
carbon
free
and
how
many
aren't
so
we'll
see.
If
that
part,
you
know
survives
based
on,
you
know,
additional
data
that
I'll
have,
but
for
the
moments
it's
in
the
in
the
proposal,
so
following
stakeholder
input
will
bring
it
back
to
the
ordinance
to
the
ordinance
commission
for
a
formal
vote.
But
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
about
it
this
evening.
F
I'm
trying
to
do
it
quickly,
given
it's
a
long
meeting.
D
F
I
don't
have
the
answer
or
the
solution
to
that.
I
do.
I
know
raised
by
the
stakeholders,
and-
and
I
guess
my
the
best
answer
is
that
you
know
it's:
cities
are
allowed
to
regulate
cannabis
industry
under
prop
64.,
and
these
could
potentially
be
a
huge
impact
on
our
geg
emissions.
Yes,
they
would
be,
they
move
a
mile
down
the
road,
they
would
affect
another
city's
gh
emissions,
and
you
know
that
that
is
going
to
be.
F
F
But
but
I
do
note
that
three
of
them
are
already
on
did
stay
with
carbon
free,
and
there
was
a
comment
at
yesterday's
cannabis
stakeholder
committee
meeting
where
they
did,
they
objected
to
what
the
ordinance
doesn't
require,
which
is
putting
solar
on
your
roof
and
that's
not
what
the
ordinance
requires,
and
they
seem
at
least
one.
This
one
stakeholder
did
say
that
they,
you
know
supported
renewable
energy,
so
we'll
see.
E
And
john
reaction,
that
too,
I
think
when
prices
are
driven
up
for
electricity,
I
think
it's
a
serious
trend
to
switch
to
outdoor
growing
and
most
cannabis.
I
think
for
trim
and
and
oil
and
products
are
outdoor
grow
now,
so
that
moves
maybe
moving
more
people.
I
mean
they're
growing,
a
lot
of
cannabis
outdoors
in
imperial
valley
right
now,
so
I
think
that's.
Hopefully
the
trend
that
we'll
see
just
eliminating
indoor
grows
all
together.
E
No,
they
wouldn't
grow
in
palm
springs,
they
grow,
they
grow
in
colorado.
I
mean
there's
no
reason
to
grow
in
palm
springs.
They
can
grow
one
or
two
growing
cycles,
but
they
can't
grow
during
the
summer.
So
yeah
it
would
move
cannabis
growing
out
of
palm
springs,
but
is
it
appropriate
here
to
begin
with
this
question
right.
D
A
And
david
and
again
I
don't
want
to
get
bogged
down
in
the
details,
but
we
also
talked
about
the
potential
or
they
asked
about
the
potential
of
renewable
energy
credits
as
sort
of
offsetting
energy
use,
and
there
are
some
complications
to
that
in
terms
of
the
types
of
credits
that
people
would
be
able
to
buy.
That
would
be
basically
qualifying,
and
so
so
anyway,
so
that's
something
else.
We
we
need
to
at
least
mention,
but
it
doesn't
sound
like
it
may
be
something
that
is
very
feasible
for
us.
F
Maybe
this
one
operator
is
so
big
that
they
that
they
could
you
know,
hire
the
consultants
and
the
city
would
hire
get
school
consultants,
but
it's
the
easiest
thing
is
to
simply
say
call
dc
or
se
and
have
them
do
all
of
this.
For
you,
and
literally
the
only
it
affects
your
electric
bill
and
that's
it
that's.
The
only
thing
you
have
to
do
is
pay
more
money
on
is
pay.
You
pay
more
money
on
your
electric
bill,
but
then
you
don't
have
to
worry
about.
You
know
energy
prices
and
things
like
that.
F
A
Actually,
just
one
more
thing
on
that
topic:
david,
I'm
gonna,
send
you
an
e-I-r
report
from
another
facility
that
is
applied
for
expansion
and
I'd
like
to
get
your
observations
on
what
they
said,
because
it
was.
I
found.
D
A
Interesting
so
I'll
send
it
to
you
to
take
a
look
at
too
all.
F
A
So,
with
regards
to
the
october
5th
meeting
so
as
we
talked
about
before
a
lot
by
email,
I
think
we
are
planning
to
have
a
meeting
dedicated
to
strategic
planning
discussion
and
that
is
going
to
be
on
october
5th,
and
I
wanted
to
just
preview
for
you
a
couple
of
things
that
you're
going
to
be
seeing
and
for
that
meeting
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
all
of
you
to
review
the
materials
before
you
get
there
be
ready
to
talk
about
things
that
you
think
might
be
missing
things
you
want
to
make
sure
get
incorporated
new
ideas
that
you
may
have.
A
So
I
think
there's
going
to
be
we'll
figure
out
how
to
structure
that
conversation,
but
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
everybody
engaged
with
that
as
we
go
through
that
process,
and
so
there
are
really
going
to
be
two
parts
to
that
conversation
and
I'm
going
to
share
a
couple
of
things
with
you.
A
So
the
first
part
of
that
conversation
we're
going
to
be
providing
you
with
a
spreadsheet
that
has
in
it
all
of
the
actions
that
were
identified
in
the
the
current
strategic
planning
document
and
what
we
have
done
as
the
planning
subcommittee
roy
and
david
and
randy,
and
I
have
gone
through
the
various
pieces
of
or
the
various
elements
of,
the
document
and
identified
the
actions
which
have
not
been
started.
A
Some
of
the
things
that
are
ongoing,
things
that
could
be
referred
or
deferred
to
others
to
do,
and
what
we
think
should
happen
to
some
of
these
things,
like
a
lot
of
actions,
make
sense
to
continue.
Some
of
them
may
not
make
any
sense
anymore,
they've
been
overtaken
by
other
events.
A
So,
basically,
what
we
have
done,
as
the
committee
is
based
on
our
analysis
and
review
of
those
actions
that
were
in
the
strategic
planning
document,
we
put
together
a
new
document
or
we
will
be
putting
together
a
new
document
that
includes.
A
An
analysis
of
what
was,
and
then
some
ideas
for
ideas
and
objectives
and
actions
to
move
forward
with.
So,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
the
one
for
solid
waste,
the
name
for
that
one
was
solid
waste
and
recycling.
There
were
24
actions
and
three
objectives:
it'll
give
a
little
sense
of
where
we
are
right.
Now
we're
going
to
actually
calculate
give
an
estimate
for
our
diversion
rate.
We
did
a
quick
calculation,
it
was
about
50
percent
and
we're
supposed
to
be
closer
to
90
percent.
A
So
again
we
need
to
get
working
on
that,
and
so
this
topic
in
particular
remains
a
really
high
priority.
A
But
and
some
of
several
of
the
actions
under
this
one
will
probably
be
retained,
but
there
are
also
some
new
ones
like,
for
example,
the
implementation
of
sb
1383
is
a
new
one
that
relates
to
some
of
those
old
objectives,
but
but
really
is
a
new
one
in
and
of
itself,
and
so
anyway,
so
we'll
try
to
identify
those
things
that
are
new,
that
you
might
not
have
seen
before,
but
and
those
things
that
will
kind
of
carry
forward
and
maybe
get
a
little
update
or
refresh
to
them.
A
So
really
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
is
kind
of
go
into
that
conversation
really
informed
so
that
we
can
dive
right
into
those
things
that
we
think
are
still
missing.
A
Those
things
that
we
want
to
get
rid
of
that
kind
of
thing,
so
we'll
have
more
instruction
for
you
as
we
further
develop
this
document,
but
but
look
forward
to
seeing
that
in
the
next
week
or
so
so
that
you
can
get
prepared
for
that
meeting
on
october
5th.
So
that's
really
part
one,
and
that
may
just
be
a
start
to
this
conversation
quite
honestly,
because
there
are
were
a
lot
of
things
that
were
in
that
sustainability
plan.
A
Probably
too
much,
and
so
one
of
our
objectives
here
is
to
narrow
down
the
types
of
actions
or
the
number
of
actions
that
we
are
focused
on
here
in
the
next
five
years.
So
so
that
is
again,
that's
the
first
part
of
the
meeting
and
again
it
may
be
just
the
initial
part
of
that
conversation.
I
expect
that
that
conversation
will
continue
and
we'll
continue
to
refine
that
information
as
we
go
forward.
A
Is
this
one?
So
the
council
has
asked
each
of
the
commissions
and
committees
to
develop
a
list
of
priorities
for
them
to
consider
as
city-wide
priorities.
So
what
each
of
the
commissions
is
doing
is
they're,
providing
a
little
summary
about
who
they
are
and
what
they've
done.
But
really
the
key
element
here
is
to
identify
a
couple
of
items
that
we
would
want
to
put
forward
to
city
council
to
say
these
are
the
most
important
things
that
we
see
in
the
next
year
that
you
council
need
to
help
us
focus
on
so
again.
A
I
think
that
this
is
a
very
short
list.
They've
asked
for
two.
I
think
we
may
have
three,
but
certainly
no
more
than
that.
The
other
thing
to
consider
here
is:
we
want
to
also
have
a
little
conversation
around
organizational
needs
and
also
process
improvement.
So,
for
example,
if
there
are
things
that
we
think
we
need
as
a
city
to
help
advance
these
priorities
or
to
address
kind
of
structural
issues
that
we
encounter,
then
we
should
note
those
here
and
also
process
improvements.
A
A
So
so
that
that's
the
other
thing
we
want
to
identify
here
as
well,
so
I
think
the
priorities
will
probably
fall
out,
naturally
from
some
of
our
conversations
and
again
since
it's
just
a
one-year
time
frame
that
they're
looking
at
it
should
be
fairly
straightforward
to
figure
out
what
our
priorities
would
look
like
over
the
next
year,
but
again,
there's
opportunities
here
for
us
to
tell
them
other
things
too,
like
maybe,
for
instance,
things
that
we
don't
want
to
do
anymore,
like
if
there's
things
that
are
on
our
plate,
that
don't
seem
like
they're
the
best
fit.
A
Then
this
is
the
place
to
do
that
too.
So
so
anyway,
so
that
that's
the
conversation
that
will
happen
on
october
5th
and
again
we'll
be
starting.
That
meeting,
I
think
at
five
o'clock.
So
it's
a
little
bit
earlier
than
the
normal
meetings
so
anyway.
So
I
just
wanted
to
provide
that
preview
and
get
you
kind
of
juiced
up.
For
that
conversation
and
again,
more
information
will
follow
and
I
think
we
we're
gonna
have
to
maybe
divide
up
into.
A
Maybe
some
breakouts
we're
gonna
try
to
do
some
creative
things
with
that,
so
that
we
can
engage
everybody
in
that
conversation
and-
and
I'm
probably
gonna
ask
that
each
of
you
take
at
least
one
area
to
really
focus
on
in
particular,
so
that
when
we
get
to
that,
we
have
some
detailed
conversation
about
that
topic.
So
so
that's.
B
G
G
B
Some
places
so
it's
important
that
everybody
come
in
up
to
speed
as
far
as
what
we've
done
so
far,
then
we
can
can
move
on
from
there.
B
So
that's
the
end
of
new
business
and
now
we'll
move
on
to
subcommittee
and
commissioner
reports
and
the
first
one
is
standing
subcommittee
and
solar
and
green
building.
Okay,.
F
Try
to
make
this
quick
so,
while
not
working
on
all
those
ordinances
that
I
just
presented,
I've
been
a
busy
attending
the
energy
commission
workshops
and
the
california
climate
and
energy
collaborative
forum
where
I
was
one
of
the
presenters
on
my
work
on
the
existing
home
energy
sustainability
ordinance,
along
with
the
chula
vista
staff
member
and
the
consultant
who
worked
on
their
ordinance
and
thanks
to
commissioner
barrett
for
joining
us
for
the
presentation.
So
the
big
regulatory
news
is
the
energy
commission
approved
the
2022
energy
code
last
month.
F
I
included
the
news
release
with
the
committee
report.
Probably
the
biggest.
This
largely
affects
new
new
new
buildings,
both
residential
and
commercial.
Probably
the
two
biggest
sort
of
innovations
in
the
2022
code
are
requiring
heat
pump
water
heaters,
so
those
will
be
required
for
new
buildings,
starting
in
for
new
residential,
a
single
family,
residential
starting
in
2023
part
of
the
state's
ghg
reduction,
and
then
for
commercial
buildings
they're
going
to
have
solar
and
battery
storage
requirements.
F
Also
in
2023
and
the
previous
code,
the
current
code
2019
solar,
got
added
on
to
residential
and
now
it's
being
added
along
with
some
battery
storage
for
commercial
and
then
also
the
energy
commission
will
approve
the
green
building
standards
code
next
month
and
both
codes
will
enter
into
effect
on
january,
123
and
they'll
become
part
of
the
palm
springs
municipal
code
be
an
ordinance
the
city
council
will
adopt
in
late
2022.
F
The
energy
commission
held
a
workshop
last
wednesday
on
its
build
program,
which
provides
incentives
and
technical
assistance
for
the
adoption
of
all
electric
and
near
zero
emission
technologies
in
new
on
low
income
residential
buildings.
New,
affordable
housing
projects
recently
approved
by
city
council
could
be
eligible
for
the
program
and
I've
sent
the
details
to
commissioner
baker
for
the
dap
health,
affordable
housing
projects
and
to
joy
silver
for
the
monarch
project.
That
also
has
been
approved
by
council.
F
So
I'll
continue
to
monitor
that,
but
that
is
could
be
a
couple
of
thousand
dollars
or
more
for
per
room
per
per
unit
for
those
subsidies.
Cac
held
a
workshop
this
morning
on
the
new
round
of
funding
for
its
electric
vehicle
incentive
program,
so
patrick
that
could
be
potentially
more
money
for
you.
I
missed
it
because
it
was
cooked
today.
F
So
I
was
attending
services,
but
I'm
asked
to
see
a
recording
and
then
I'll
report
back
at
the
october
5
committee
meeting
and
then
literally
nothing
to
report
on
the
legislative
front.
The
legislative
session
ended
on
september
10th
without
any
major
energy
related
legislation
passing
there
was
a
lot
on.
You
know
the
got
to
the
committees,
but
it
just
got
followed
up
in
committee
and
many
of
the
bills
that
were
held
in
committee
will
be
reintroduced
next
year.
F
So
I'll
continue
to
follow
that,
but
literally
no,
no
major,
no
major
action
on
the
energy
front
on
that,
and
that's
it
for
my
report.
B
I
have
one
question
david:
what
were
the
the
energy
standards
like
in
the
2022
requirements?
How
do
they
phase
with
housing
development
projects
like
we
have
in
palm
springs?
If
the
project
is
ongoing
and
it
has
has
been,
has
been
approved
and
is
ongoing,
but
maybe
building
through
2023
and
2024?
Do
they
have
to
comply.
F
The
the
answer
that
is,
when
do
you
apply
for
your
building,
permit,
that's
how
I
believe
the
entire
building
codes
set.
So
the
energy
code
is
one
of
a
whole,
along
with
the
electrical
code
and
plug-in
code
and
the
residential
code,
and
essentially
which
code
you
follow
is:
when
do
you
apply
for
your
building,
permit
or
colloquial
pull
your
building
permit?
So
if
you
pull
your
building
permit
on
december
30th
or
31st,
I
don't
know
which
days
are
days
of
the
week.
F
F
And
then
the
whole
retrofits
of
what
I
have
addressed
these
are
largely.
There
are
some
retrofits
for
additions
and
alterations
in
particular,
but
largely
this
is
for
new
buildings.
B
A
She's,
good,
okay,
so
the
stan
subcommittee
on
waste
reduction.
The
report
is
there:
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
our
food
ware,
ordinance,
graphic
and
fact
sheet.
So
we
put
that
together
with
the
help
of
a
consultant
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
So
that's
included
in
your
packet
also
just
a
reminder
that
we
will
have
our
shredding
and
e-waste
event
coming
on
up
on
october
16th,
I
think
october.
Is
it
october.
16Th
is.
D
A
The
saturday
yes,
yes,
saturday,
16.
so
october,
16th
is
the
shredding
and
e-waste,
and
then
we
are
separating
it
this
year
from
the
bulky
item
drop-off,
and
so
that
will
be
the
following
weekend
on
the
23rd.
I
believe
so
so
those
two
events
will
be
happening
in
october.
A
We
certainly
welcome
volunteer
support
for
our
shredding
and
e-waste
event.
Roy
has
already
stepped
up
and
volunteered
so
looking
forward
to
seeing
other
folks
there.
If
you
are
able
to
make
it
should
be
lovely
weather
in
october.
It's
usually
really
nice
so
good
day
to
get
out
also
fun
to
interact
with
the
people
that
come
and
drop
off
their
stuff
so
anyway.
So
please
consider
that
as
we're
going
forward
here.
A
That
psds
is
preparing
for
one,
is
the
expansion
of
green
waste
and
food
waste
collection
service
from
all
single-family
residential
properties
and
from
all
multi-family.
So
originally
we
were
thinking.
Multi-Family
was
exempt
from
the
food
required
food
waste
requirement,
but
they
are
not.
So
we
are
going
to
be
providing
all
multi-family
residents
with
food
waste
collection,
access
under
the
new
requirements.
A
So,
as
you
can
imagine
that
will
affect
rates.
So
our
plan
was
to
talk
through
with
council
the
various
changes
to
the
scope
on
september
30th
and
then
potentially
bring
forward
unless
they
have
significant
changes,
bring
forward
their
rates
and
propose
the
new
rates,
the
following
meeting,
which
would
be
october
14th
if
all
goes
as
planned.
A
So
if
that
happens,
then
our
intent
is
to
publish
a
public
notice
public
hearing
notice
to
residents,
so
that
everybody
is
aware
that
those
changes
and
rates
are
changing
and
that
public
hearing
would
be
in
december.
So
there's
a
45-day
public
notice
notification
requirement
so
anyway,
so
we're
focused
a
lot
on
that
over
the
next
couple
of
months
and
kind
of
pushing
that
through,
and
that
is
just
one
of
the
many
requirements
of
sb
1383
that
we
are
currently
working
on.
I
mentioned
the
purchasing
requirement
earlier
in
the
meeting.
A
A
And
a
lot
of
work
is
going
to
be
going
on
into
that
over
the
next
several
months.
D
H
Could
you
add
me
to
the
saturday
october
16th
volunteer
for
the
we?
Should
it's
actually
very
fun,
it
really
is,
it
doesn't
sound
like
it,
but
it
really
is
fun.
E
Patrick,
do
you
know
if
you
have
to
if
you
don't
want
a
green
bin
for
residential
multi-family,
you
don't
have
to
take
one.
Do
you
right?
Yes,
you.
D
A
Right
so
the
way
that
we're
planning
to
do
it
is
yeah,
so
you're
you're
an
interesting
case
right.
So
I
I
don't
know:
where
do
you
put
your
trash
in
your
recycling
now.
E
A
So
our
plan
for
units
like
yours
and
you
may
not
even
be
able
to
accommodate
this,
but
we
are
planning
to
provide
a
two
and
a
half
gallon
container
for
people
that
are
space
limited
so
for
folks
that
are
space
limited.
It's
a
two
and
a
half
gallon
container
that
you
can
put
your
food
waste
in
and
that
would
be
collected
as
opposed
to
everyone
else
or
other
single-family
residents.
Who
would
have
a
cart
of
a
certain
size
so.
E
A
So
I
that's
that's
a
good
point.
We
may
want
to
look
at
that.
The
wording
of
that,
because
everybody's
going
to
have
to
add
a
third
cart
or
some
sort
of
container,
so
I'm
sure
that
there
will
be
an
adjustment
period
in
terms
of
people's
ability
to
shield
those
from
view.
So.
A
Good
example
of
I
think,
the
kind
of
conversation
and
reaction
we're
going
to
get
more
broadly
to
this
ordinance
and
unfortunately
in
the
law.
The
law
does
not
provide
any
exceptions
for
residential
customers.
It
does
provide
exceptions
for
commercial
customers
and
multi-family
is
considered
commercial,
so
there
may
be
some
outs
for
commercial
properties
or
large
multi-family
complexes
so
anyway,
so
that
it's
it's
it's
an
interesting
law
and
it's
going
to
be
incredibly
challenging
to
implement
that's
what.
A
All
right
so
and
then
the
only
other
point
I
was
gonna
make
with
regard
to
the
report
is:
we
did
meet
with
the
community
compost
coalition
folks
and
took
a
look
at
a
site
over
near
behind
the
animal
shelter
and
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
viable
based
on
the
feedback
we
got
from
our
building
and
planning
folks,
so
we
continue
to
work
with
them
on
identifying
potential
locations
for
community
composting.
That's
it.
A
So
we
did
meet
with
a
consultant
today
to
talk
through
the
results,
they're
compiling
all
the
information,
and
we
talked
through
some
of
the
format
stuff,
and
so
we
should
be
getting
a
report
from
them
next
month
to
be
shared
publicly
and
to
get
some
feedback
on.
E
Oh
so
we
circulated
a
survey
form
that
I
found
got
from
my
friends
that
did
the
honolulu
bicycle
update
plan.
We
took
in
comments
from
our
bicycle
committee
members.
E
I
made
the
revisions
and
incorporated
them
and
I
redistributed
it
out,
and
I
think
the
the
key
element
here
is
the
all
of
the
things
that
the
city
of
palm
springs
needs
to
do
is
really
contain
in
the
sea
bag
transportation,
the
active
transportation
plan
and
they
just
sort
of
dropped
the
ball
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
I
and
I
really
like
to
work
with
seabag
on
this.
I've
tried
to
reach
out
and
contact
the
transportation
coordinator.
E
Eric
cowells
and
I
haven't
had
any
luck,
so
I
don't
know,
do
you
know
him
patrick,
because
we're
updating
we're
basically
updating
their
plan
because
it's
so
far
along
so
I
before
we
can,
you
know,
send
this
out.
I
just
kind
of
like
to
get
some
input.
So
I
know
that
dennis
the
commissioner
council,
member
dennis
who's
last
name,
I'm
blanking
on
is
what
is
it?
E
That's
right
he's
the
the
seabag
transportation
representative,
so
maybe
I'll
copy
him
on
this
to
see.
E
If
I
can
get
some
input
and
if
not,
then
I
can
it's
ready
to
turn
over
to
tracy,
so
hopefully
we
can
send
it
out
pretty
soon
and
then
I'll
also
point
out
that
we
had
originally
recently
talked
about
whether
the
city
of
palm
springs
want
to
approve
the
ordinance
to
allow
bicyclists
to
treat
stop
signs
as
yield
signs,
which
is
done
in
like
a
number
of
states
on
the
pretty
much
the
whole
western
side
of
the
country,
and
that
was
just
approved
in
the
california
legislature.
E
So
it's
awaiting
government
governor's
approval,
so
we
don't
need
any
more
action
on
that.
I
think
that'll
be
a
great
thing
for
the
bicycle
community
and
that's
it.
A
So
jim,
my
only
comment
is:
I
think
that
we
need
to
better
integrate
your
conversations
and
planning
efforts
into
our
planning
process.
So
please
be
thinking
about
that
when
we
talk
about
the
transportation
related
stuff
in
in
our
plan
update.
E
Yeah
I
was
going
to
ask
you,
you
know
the
sustainability
plan
and
the
cbeg
active
transportation
plan
are
both
great
documents.
It'd
be
nice
if
we
could
point
to
one
within
the
other,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
can
really
do
that
or
maybe
we
can,
but
so
much
of
the
planning
is
there
already
done
for
us.
So
right.
E
A
About
developing
a
new
bike
master
plan-
and
so
I
don't
know
if
that's
still
on
the
radar,
but
but
I
think
we
were
going
to
try
to
do
that
along
with
the
update
to
the
circulation
element
for
the
general
plan
update.
So.
E
Yeah
well,
most
of
the
work
has
already
been
done
by
seabag,
so
it
would
be
it's
just
a
matter
of
updating
and
that's
kind
of
the
focus
behind
this
survey
that
we're
going
to
add
to
it.
So
hopefully
I
can
get
a
hold
of
eric
and
you
can
give
me
some
ideas
but
yeah
I'll
make
sure
that
that's
a
part
of
it.
Thank
you.
E
Well,
that's
me
as
well
and
alex
as
well
too.
I
don't
know
if
she's
she's
here,
but
we
had
a
quick
meeting
just
the
two
of
us
a
week
ago,
and
we
we
looked
at
what
we
had
talked
about
last
meeting
and
we
kind
of
agreed
that
we
really
can't
be
commenting
on
building
codes,
and
I
agree
with
that
and
upon
re-reading
it.
E
What
all
it
really
says
about
building
codes
is
that
the
city
really
needs
to
comply
with
dark
skies,
because
dark
skies
is
actually
incorporated
into
the
california
energy
commission
building
code
mandate,
so
we're
just
kind
of
nudging
them
to
follow
the
rules
that
they're
supposed
to
follow.
So
we
don't
need
to
do
a
whole
lot.
E
Maybe
I'll
add
some
clarification
to
that,
and
then
there
was
another
two
more
questions
and
alex,
and
I
split
it
up
and
one
was
about
lumen
levels
and
that
dark
sky
ordinance
does
include
lumen
levels
slightly
different
than
are
in
the
memo
there.
So
I
can
make
a
quick
reference
to
that
with
a
total
maximum
for
outdoor
light
lighting,
which
is
the
comment
I
provided
to
my
cam
or
robert
mccann
before
he
left.
So
I
figured
that
out
today
and
then
I
think
alex
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
if
you're
there.
E
If
you
have
any
comments
on
alex
volunteered
to
work
on
some
of
the
education
and
outreach
and
enforcement
stuff,
that
would
be
valuable
for
getting
this
to
work
because
we
are
skeptical
about
just
writing
another
ordinance.
But
we
really
think
that
the
opportunity
here
is
to
work
through
education
and
outreach
so
alex.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add.
C
Sure
I
can
add
just
a
few
comments.
I
think
so.
The
we
started
thinking
about
what
the
outreach
plan
might
be,
recognizing
that
it
won't
be
in
like
full
development
mode
until
the
policies
are
solidified,
but
at
least
start
thinking
about
that
and
we're
thinking.
We
will
need
to
rely
on
like
citizen
reporting.
You
know
if
your
neighbor
has
lights
that
are
not
in
accordance
that
that
gets
reported
and
monitored,
also
that
there
are
complications
with
that.
C
So
we
started
trying
to
think
creatively
about
ways
to
engage
people
in
that
reporting
process
like,
for
example,
through
partnerships.
So,
for
example,
we
know
we
have
advocates
for
dark
skies
in
like
the
astrologists
who
maybe
go
to
events
at
the
rancho
mirage
library,
for
example-
not
palm
springs,
I
understand,
or
people
who,
like
bats
or
wildlife,
so
bringing
them
on
board,
maybe
like
through
some
fun
engaging
events
come
listen
to
bats,
on
the
bat
radar
and
then
on
your
way
home
drive
by
five
streets
in
your
neighborhood
and
report.
C
You
know
whose
lights
are
not
in
accordance
as
like
kind
of
a
fun
example,
starting
to
think
of
ways
that
we
can
just
raise
awareness
that
these
new
policies
or
mandates
are
are
in
effect
and
that
it's
upon
us
to
look
around
and
find
those
who
are
not
complying.
C
So
again,
it's
kind
of
just
in
the
initial
development
thinking
stage,
but
that
was
kind
of
the
direction
we
were
going.
In
addition
to
just
like
information
update
for
homeowners
and
business
owners
as
well-
and
I
think
we
also
talked
about
maybe
having
some
of
the
sustainability
scholarship
go
toward
new
lighting.
That
is
in
accordance
with
the
policies.
C
Oh
and
we
know
that
there
are
several
other
cities.
We
all
know
that
have
accomplished
the
the
dark
sky
standard,
and
so
I
will
be
spending
some
more
time
researching
how
they
have
done
their
outreach
and
engagement
strategies
and
how
they've
approached
the
situation
in
general
and
see
what
we
can
learn
and
copy
and
improve
from
those
other
areas.
E
Thanks
alex
so
so
I
think,
maybe
we'll
take
another
stab
at
updating
bob's
robert's
menu.
I'm
sorry
robert's
memo
I
can
add
some
of
my
lumen
stuff
and
a
little
clarification
about
the
new
construction
ordinance
and
the
model
lighting
code
and
alex,
I
think,
just
putting
a
little
summary
of
you
know.
Some
outreach
ideas
would.
E
F
Yeah,
I
can
help
you
on
the
energy
code
stuff,
because
that's
you
know
my
area
but
patrick,
that's
an
area
where
I
can
draft
stuff,
but
it
really
does
require
input
from
staff,
because
I
best,
as
I
can
tell
the
city,
is
using
zoning
code
standards
as
opposed
to
the
ones
in
the
energy
code.
So
that
really
does
need
to
be
clarified.
F
So
we
understand
what
the
what
the
city
actually
is
doing
and
should
be
doing,
and
that
may
be
a
good
topic
for
for
sitting
down
with
you
and
flynn
and
maybe
the
building
folks
and
perhaps
just
doing
a
cleanup
in.
I
think
it's
generally
january
february.
F
The
planning
commission
does
an
annual
cleanup
and
it
may
be
as
simple
as
deleting
the
current
section,
the
zoning
code
and
just
referring
it
to
the
just
keeping
that
section
and
saying
please
see
energy
code
and
that
way,
there's
no
there's
no
conflict.
F
What
it's
not
clear
to
me
when
that's
probably
more
work-
and
maybe
the
committee
can
look
at
it-
is
what's
in
the
zoning
code
that
would
be
outside
of
the
energy
code
and
therefore
we
can
maintain
those
and
and
not
being
very
preempted,
but
generally
anything
that
you
put
that's
connected
to
a
building,
including
parking
lots
and
stuff
like
that
is
governed
by
the
energy
code,
but
landscape
lighting,
which
I've
already
mentioned,
isn't
and
outdoor
lighting
for
art,
which
we
have
a
lot
of
mostly
the
cities.
F
That's
also
an
area
where,
where
the
city
can
regulate
but
anyway
jim
you
a
draft,
I'm
happy
to
tweak
it
for
you
and
because
I've
already
sent
some
materials
to
rob.
E
Okay
and
david,
I
probably
would
ask
you
a
little
bit
the
the
it
seems
to
me
that
consensus
is
the
maximum
lumen
per
fixture
is
525,
but
how
many
fixtures
can
you
have?
You
know
you
drive
down
south
palm
and
there's
five
up
lights
on
a
tree,
and
the
energy
commission
had
the
same
problem
with
shower
heads
when
they
limited
shower
heads
to
two
gallons.
Some
people
built
showers
with
four
shower
heads.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
parallel
there.
E
F
D
F
E
B
Usually
keep
myself
unmuted
in
this
meeting
for
jim
and
jim
and
alex.
Do
you
think
you'll
have
something
on
the
updated
memo
for
the
next
meeting
and
if
so,
we'll
put
you
on
the
agenda
under
old
business
and
if
you
don't
know
right
now,
just
let
me
and
patrick
know
in
a
week
or
a
couple
of
weeks.
B
F
This
morning,
cwa
board
meeting
I
provide
an
update
on
the
airport
demonstration
garden
from
patrick
staff
report.
I'll
be
didn't.
F
That
you
just
presented
patrick,
but
just
let
them
know
that
we're
working
on
that
dwa
approved
a
rate
increase
effective
january
122..
F
This
is
the
last
step
in
a
five-year
rate
plan
that
was
approved
under
the
prop
2218
procedure
in
2017,
but
dwa
suspended
the
schedule
july
2020
and
2021
increases
because
of
kobe.
The
board
also
approved
applying
for
more
than
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
funding
provide
direct
payment
to
customers.
Water
accounts
for
rewards
resulting
from
cobit
19.
F
program
is
administrated
by
the
state
water
board,
with
985
million
dollars
in
federal
funding
authorized
by
the
american
rescue
plan
act
of
2021
overall
water
use
was
down
13
and
15
in
august
of
2021,
compared
with
the
same
months
in
the
2013
baseline
year
and
11
over
the
last
12
months.
F
Water
use
was
down
four
percent
in
august
compared
with
last
year
and
that's
benchmarked
under
the
governor's
voluntary
target
of
a
15
reduction
july,
water
use
compared
with
last
year's
being
re-evaluated,
there's
a
very
lengthy
article
that
janet
wilson
has
already
posted
in
the
desert
sun
and
will
probably
be
in
tomorrow's
print
edition.
So
you
can
read
more
about
that.
There,
but
once
again,
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
on
water
conservation,
working
with
the
dwa
and
then
setting
an
example
for
the
city.
D
Hi
so
right,
councilman
chair
clark
actually
spoke
with
former
mayor
pro
tem
coors.
Regarding
this
non-smoking
ordinance,
we
have
the
documents
to
proceed,
there's
just
one
sort
of
issue
that
they
can
go
forward
with
as
the
housing
element,
whether
or
not
to
include
that
or
not,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
a
will.
D
Smoking
be
prohibited
in
any
multi-dwelling
unit
or
b
as
one
way
it
could
be
bifurcated
that
it's
only
from
a
date,
certain
let's
say
january
1,
2022
from
that
date
going
forward
in
multi-dwelling
units
they
would
be
smoke
free
or
they
could
just
retroactively
say
on
january.
1,
all
units
in
every
place
in
the
city
would
be
smoke
free,
but
that's
something
that
we
leave
up
to
council
to
decide.
B
That's
one
issue,
though,
when
we
discussed
it
the
last
time
in
the
commission,
I
think
most
of
the
the
majority
felt
that
we
should
not
ban
smoking
in
multi-family
units.
B
So
we
wanted
to
get
a
sense
from
the
commissioners
as
to
where
you,
where
you
stand
now
on
that,
and
then
we,
the
the
the
mayor
and
council
member
coors,
would
like
us
to
proceed
with
finalizing
a
an
ordinance
and
presenting
it
probably
won't
be
this
year,
but
we
need
to
be
working
on
it
on
that,
and
so
we
may
want
to
within
the
next
meeting
or
to
have
a
an
updated
draft
on
the
ordinance.
B
If
there's
any
thought
about
how
to
handle
the
multi-family
units,
if
there's
any
preference
on
banning
or
not
banning,
and
then
actually
the
mayor
and
council
member
coors
did
say
they
wanted
to
ban
smoking
in
multi-family
units,
they
were
for
that.
H
Multi-Family
units
banning
I
mean
I'm
opposed
to
smoking,
and
I
think
that
would
be
great,
but
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
realistically,
in
you
know,
in
rentals
and
multi-family
units,
it's
I
think
the
biggest
problem
is
even
if
you
legislate
it,
the
nature
of
most
many
not
but
to
generalize
smokers
is
they're.
Gonna
smoke,
no
matter
what
I
see
it.
Where
I
live,
it's
a
smoke-free
environment,
they
just
smoke
in
their
apartments.
They
ignore
it.
That's
the
nature
of
many
smokers.
They
don't
care
and
they're
gonna
smoke
anyway.
H
To
impose
that
you
know,
I
think
it
would
be
great
and
I
know
some
places
you
know
you
know
that
they
they
can
do
it
successfully,
but
I
just
don't
know
no.
D
In
most
of
the
major
cities,
for
instance,
santa
monica
pasadena,
it
is
banned,
it's
prohibited
and
just
period.
Although
council
member
friedman
doesn't
like
the
private
right
of
action,
but
I
think
we
should
open
it
up
like
the
texas
abortion
law
and
that
didn't
get
a
10
000
reward
for
calling
in
your
neighbor.
H
Also,
I
think
it
might
be
a
good
place
where
you
have
like
smokers
club.
Why
not
have
you
know
or
dwellings,
where
they're
pet
friendly?
Why
not
have
smoking
places
where,
like
everybody
in
this
apartment,
building
it's
a
smoker's
apartment
building
and
let
them
let
them
smoke
their
freely?
They
have
their
rights,
but
non-smokers
and
children
or
people
with
you,
know,
asthma,
and
that
shouldn't
have
to
be
sharing
air.
You
know
and
paying
the
same,
rent
and
being
exposed
to
you
know
potential
disease
and
toxins.
So
I.
D
The
argument
so
chair
clark:
how
do
you
suggest
we
proceed.
B
B
That's
one
place
where
this
conversation
started
between
carl
and
me
that
has
to
be
updated.
So
why
don't
we
when
we
plan
on
doing
that
and
then
in
the
meantime
we
should
start
working
on
the
the
staff
report?
B
A
F
Okay,
me
again,
hopefully,
last
time
dc
board
meets
next
monday.
Agenda
will
be
posted
tomorrow
or
thursday.
F
The
community
advisory
committee
will
meet
on
september,
30th
and
I'll
report
back
on
the
meetings
at
the
october
5
solar,
green
building
committee
meeting
at
its
august
16
meeting
the
dc
board
reappointed
the
existing
cac
members,
which
include
myself
and
commissioner
baker
for
additional
two-year
terms
and
appointed
mario
cruz
osorio,
a
resident
of
council
district,
one
recommended
for
by
council
member
gardner
to
fill
a
vacancy
on
the
cac,
also
for
a
two-year
term
and
there's
still
a
vacancy
from
council
district.
Four.
So
I'll
follow
up
with
mayor
holstadge
for
a
recommendation.
F
I'm
working
with
dc
staff
on
an
rfp
for
a
distributed
energy
resources
consultant
who
advise
dc
on
establishing
programs
for
installation
of
solar
and
battery
storage
systems
and
commercial
buildings,
and
critical
government
health
facilities
to
increase
local
resilience
and
reliability
and
patrick
this
work
could
be
integrated
into
the
city's
climate
adaptation
efforts,
because
one
of
the
key
focuses
will
be
emergency
facilities
and
getting
solar
and
storage
as
a
backup
as
opposed
to
diesel
generators.
So
that's
a
good
that
that
would
be
a
good
area
to
integrate,
and
I've
also
asked.
F
This
goes
to
the
point
that
I
that
that
commissioner
barrett
has
raised.
I've
asked
tc
staff
to
look
into
funding
for
weatherization
programs
for
low
and
moderate
income.
Households
to
combat
extreme
heat
was
issued
that
are
mentioned
in
the
propublica
article.
That
commissioner
evans
had
circulated
also
apply
in
palm
springs,
so
everything
that
you
read
in
that
article.
Thank
you,
commissioner
evans.
F
We
have
that
here
once
again,
sort
of
the
challenge
of
which
code
applies,
and
it
may
be
better
for
dce
to
work
with
the
ious
edison
of
the
gas
company
and
they
have
funding
allocated
from
the
cpuc
and
that
funding
bucket
has
been
increased
and,
at
least
according
to
the
announcement
yesterday
from
the
feds
they're,
also
approving
additional
funding,
so
that
the
low-income
weatherization
program,
which
mostly
had
been
focused
on
extreme
cold
in
the
northeast,
also
will
help
for
insulation
for
heat.
F
So
that
may
be
an
area
that
we
could
work
with
dc
to
see
what
programs
are
and
that
would
not
be
tied
to
title
24,
so
that
could
potentially
benefit
the
manufactured
home
sector.
So
I
am
thinking
about
that.
Environmental
justice
is
something
that
I'll
be
bringing
up
at
the
cac
and
that's
probably
best
to
deal
with
at
the
dc
level
than
the
city
level,
because
they
have
better
access
to
the
funding
sources.
B
B
B
D
H
Sorry
shade
options
with
the
understanding
that
drought
and
the
maintenance
of
the
trees
and
the
upkeep
and
all
of
that,
but
there's
places
in
the
world
where
there's
incredible,
where
they've
done
like
streets
of
parasols,
you
know
and
all
interesting
kinds
of
architectural,
stretchings
and
canvases.
B
Although
I've
noticed
the
new
shade
structures
like
in
ruth
hardy
park,
they
look
pretty
rugged.
F
B
B
And
jake
is
not
here,
okay,
so
that
that
concludes
our
meeting.
This
is
a
very
productive
meeting.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
held
on
tuesday
october
19th
2021
at
5
30
pm.
I
assume
it
will
still
be
on
zoom.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
the
meeting.