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B
B
A
B
C
A
D
You,
madam
chair,
this
project
was
reviewed
by
the
AAC
on
December
4th
of
2017,
and
you
voted
to
continue
the
project
and
advising
the
applicant
on
in
providing
some
comments.
So
some
of
the
three
of
the
comments
were
to
provide
site
sections
relative
to
the
proposed
driveway
and
retaining
wall
review
of
the
landscape
plan
and
then
that
provide
a
detailed
plan
of
existing
palm
tree
locations.
If
you
remember,
the
the
adjacent
property
owner
of
the
becks
were
concerned
about
two
trees
that
are
located
on
the
west
end
of
the
property.
D
So
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
transplant
that
one
tree
to
save
the
one
and
then
transplant
the
other
tree
onto
the
becks
property.
So
it
will
may
not
be
the
same
effect
they
want,
but
at
least
they're
saving
the
tree
so
based
upon
the
AAC
comments
and
the
bill
and
Dixie
Lou
Beck's
comments
to
the
West.
The
the
property
of
the
or
the
applicant
did
meet
with
the
project
engineer
and
surveyed
the
site
and
determined
that,
as
I
said,
the
one
tree
can
be
saved
in
the
other
tree
by
narrowing.
D
One
of
the
comments
from
the
AC
was
that
the
the
front
yard
landscaping
was
not
needed
some
work,
so
the
applicant
will
be
able
to
describe
how
they've
changed
the
landscape
plan
to
sort
of
meet
the
requirements
of
the
AC.
Also,
you
remember
that
there
was
a
ficus
hedge
that
ran
along
the
east
property
line
and
along
the
rear.
The
property
owner
to
the
east
was
concerned
that
this
ficus
hedge
could
grow
tall
and
block
views.
D
Roof
plan
at
the
last
meeting
we
discussed
Heights
and
the
AC
seemed
to
be
okay
with
the
building
height
they're,
not
requesting
any
kind
of
deviation
from
what
the
code
allows.
Building
elevations.
There
were
some
comments
regarding
the
front
elevation.
The
applicant
has
chosen
not
to
revise
the
front
elevation.
D
This
is
an
additional
slide
that
was
added
at
the
request
of
the
AC,
which
shows
cross-sections
as
you
go
back
into
the
property.
So
if
you
look
at
driveway
section
a
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
slide,
this
is
the
view
from
the
street
alpert.
Also
the
slope
it
slopes
up
to
the
driveway
there'll
be
a
little
bit
of
a
lip.
D
The
second
sexual
section,
B
shows
a
little
retaining
wall
and
then
the
planter
bed
and
then
a
what
they're
calling
a
guardrail
wall
there's
a
requirement
so
that
a
car
doesn't
drive
off
the
side
of
the
retaining
wall.
So
they've
added
a
three
foot
tall
wall
and
then
Section
D
farther
back
shows
another
section
of
how
the
planter
bed
and
then
the
top
of
the
guardrail
wall,
which
would
be
nine
foot.
Eight.
D
D
The
these
drawings
of
the
front
of
the
house
have
been
revised
to
mimic
what
they're
proposing
landscape
wise.
So
you
get
a
better
view.
This
is
different
than
what
the
original
landscape
plan
had.
It
was
more
or
formal
looking,
and
this
slide
is
looking
from
El
Portal
towards
the
retaining
wall
driveway
and
you
can
see
how
that
transitions
to
the
til,
the
retaining
wall
and
then
in
the
back
you'll
see
the
planters
that
have
been
added
in
the
bottom
right
of
the
slide.
D
Instead
of
the
tall
wall,
the
nine
foot
tall
wall,
it
sort
of
transitions
and
there's
a
planter
there,
those
who
ease
it
visually
and
then
this
is
the
the
grading
plan
which
is
on
the
board
up
here,
and
it
shows
on
your
page
four
of
the
staff
report.
This
is
what
is
blown
up
that
shows
the
location
of
the
palm
trees
that
well.
That
concludes
my
report
and
the
applicant
is
here
Thank.
E
B
And
that's
correct
as
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
the
wall
is
located
outside
of
the
side,
yard
setback
area,
and
so
consequently,
it
wouldn't
be
subject
to
the
height
limits
that
are
discussed
in
chapter
93
of
the
code.
However,
as
you
indicate
member
Lockyer,
the
front
portion
which
extends
into
the
front
yard
setback
area
would
be
subject
to
the
zoning
code
relative
to
wall
height.
A
G
Only
that
we
went
through
and
in
the
trees
according
to
the
surveyor
are
accurately
located.
We
met
with
the
adjacent
owner
and
discussed
the
variety
of
things
that
we
could
do
with
those
trees
and
what
we
couldn't
do
with
those
trees,
and
they
seem
to
be
satisfied
with
our
solution
and
I
showed
him
a
revised
plan
where
I
think
the
the
new
wall
and
the
way
it's
the
new
driveway
are
not
nearly
as
brutal
as
it
was
before,
and
I
think
they
were
happy
about
that
and
I
guess
that's
about
em.
You
know
I'm.
G
They
also
be
provided
some
sort
of
planting
beds
up
above
that,
hopefully
they
can
use
something
to
soften
their
side
of
the
wall
as
well,
and
and
the
landscapes
have
been
revised
where
the
stones
that
are
there
take
advantage
of
the
the
slope.
That's
there
and
the
plantings
are
maybe
a
little
bit
more
for
uses.
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E
In
in
in
a
similar
way
to
look
the
way
can
just
put
that
I
think
that
he's
made
a
reasonable
effort
with
the
landscape
in
the
front
and
the
walls.
Some
of
it,
including
some
of
the
comments
from
the
previous
presentation,
where
the
neighborhood
some
issues
to
the
east
and
something
seemed
to
have
been
I
thought
I.
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A
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F
A
H
A
I
think,
overall,
just
couple
of
things
is
that
you
know
on
the
front:
if
there
is
the
palm
trees
are
there
I
think
we
should
record
it
on
the
plan,
so
we're
not
rendering
that's
correct
or
if
it
is
unscathed
plan,
that's
correct,
so
we
should
record
it
there
I
think
there
is.
You
know
some
rigid
lines,
geometric
rigid
lines
on
the
retaining
wall
that
we're
all
wondering
a
little
bit
too
harsh
on
the
site,
but
I'm
sure
with
the
grade.
You
know
the
architect
so
I
think
we
have
a
motion
here
to
up
and.
A
B
Chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
this
item
has
been
forwarded
to
you
by
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
Francis
Stevens
school
is
a
class
1
Historic
Site
as
part
of
that
designation.
It
also
includes
all
of
the
landscape
areas
surrounding
the
school,
the
theater
building
and
then
also
includes
the
park
on
the
southern
portion
of
the
site
because
of
issues
with
the
current
conditions
of
the
site,
primarily
the
result
of
changes
to
the
city's
water,
efficient
landscape,
ordinance
back
in
2015
over-watering
was
no
longer
permitted.
B
A
lot
of
the
perimeter
areas
relied
on
overspray,
and
so
consequently,
those
turf
areas
have
died
and
some
of
the
plant
materials
in
those
areas
have
died
at
the
direction
of
City
Council.
The
city's
maintenance
and
operations
department
began
to
replace
plant
materials,
not
realizing
that
the
site
was
part
of
the
class
1
designation
and
technically
they
needed
the
approval
of
the
historic
site.
B
Once
we
discovered
the
fact
that
this
work
had
occurred
without
the
approval
of
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board,
we
took
it
to
the
board
in
December
for
their
review
and
their
input.
As
part
of
that,
they
would
have
requested
that
the
city
do
a
number
of
things
number
one.
They
want
the
city
to
put
together
a
master
landscape
plan
for
the
site
to
look
at
how
we
might
make
improvements
to
those
areas
that
are
dead
and
how
that
fits
into
the
context
of
the
overall
site
landscaping.
B
Another
thing
they
wanted
to
have
happen
is
they
wanted
the
AAC
to
review
the
proposed
plant
materials
that
have
been
installed
by
city
staff
today
and
get
your
input
on
that?
The
primary
basis
for
that
is
the
HS
P
B
does
not
have
any
registered
landscape
architects
on
their
board
or
anyone
with
landscape
experience,
and
so
consequently,
they
requested
that
we
forward
this
item
to
you
all,
based
on
your
experience
with
landscapes
and
looking
at
landscapes.
B
One
of
the
things
that
is
perhaps
unique
about
this
is
that,
based
on
the
square
footage
of
the
area
to
be
replaced,
it
wouldn't
normally
come
before
the
AAC,
but
again
at
the
direction
of
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board,
it's
before
you
today
and
again.
They
have
asked
specifically
for
you
all
to
look
at
the
plant
materials
that
are
being
proposed
to
replace
what
has
been
proposed.
I've
got
the
list
in
your
staff
report
and
then
also
illustrations
in
the
report.
B
One
of
the
things
in
looking
at
the
lush
and
efficient
guidelines,
which
we
use
as
a
basis
for
plant
material
selections
is,
it
appears
that
hibiscus
sometimes
can
be
a
little
bit
more
water
dependent
than
some
of
the
other
plants,
and
so
in
particular,
I'd
like
to
get
your
input
on
that
particular
choice.
Plant
choice
that
we
have
there
again
going
back
to
the
overall
scope
of
the
landscaping
here,
you
see
the
entire
site.
The
areas
shown
in
purple
on
the
site
are
the
landscape
areas
that
are
to
be
replaced.
B
These
are
again
are
the
areas
that
relied
primarily
on
overspray
as
part
of
the
limited
budget
that
the
city
has
for
this
project,
we
will
be
installing
drip
irrigation
in
those
areas,
so
any
new
plant
materials
that
will
be
installed
will
be
adequately
supported
and
irrigated,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
cleared
for
the
board
members
again.
This
action
is
being
referred
to
you
by
the
Historic
Site
servation
board.
A
formal
vote
of
the
AAC
is
not
necessary.
B
I
B
At
city
staff,
who
has
been
putting
plants
in
as
part
of
developing
a
master
landscape
plan
for
the
site,
maintenance
and
operations
will
engage
a
landscape
architect
to
assist.
However,
they
did
want
to
get
the
comments
of
the
AAC
and
the
HSP
be
before
they
begin
working
with
the
landscape
architect.
So.
B
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B
E
F
B
F
Also
noticed
that,
on
the
building
side
of
the
sidewalk,
all
of
the
existing
landscaping,
that
is
there,
none
of
it
is
used
on
this
new
water,
tolerant,
side
and
I.
Think
some
of
it
could
be
the
verbena
possibly
is
ground
cover
that
could
spread
and
help
to
get
rid
of.
So
much
of
the
stones
and
I
think
the
hibiscus
is
really
inappropriate.
The
one
that
they
have
planted
just
doesn't
look
happy
and
I
think
it
seems
more
tropical
than.
A
Think
I
can
guide
this
a
little
bit
in
the
sense
of
my
review
is
that
Palm
Canyon
Drive
to
me
seems
to
be
one
of
our
downtown
quarters
and,
as
you
frequent
the
stores
that
are
in
the
nearby
area
that
parking
that
landscape
area,
it's
quite
a
bit
of
traffic
and
the
ground
covered
us
there
now
is
not
gonna
last
what
more
than
a
month,
maybe
because
of
the
traffic
that
gets
back
and
forth.
No,
that
corner
also
gets
used
for
public
demonstration
or
public
speeches
or
even
the
renaissance
festivals.
A
So
it
seems
to
me
that
it
should
be
really
treated
as
a
downtown
sort
of
you
know,
project
where
pedestrians
will
be
parking
parallel
parking
going
to
the
side.
So
perhaps
it's
a
suggestion
of
you
know
use
of
pavers
or
even
benches
so
that
it
becomes
more
of
an
urban
landscape.
I
think
when
it
comes
to
Indian
Canyon.
As
we
all
know,
we
drive
that
also
pretty
frequently.
It
is
not
about
pedestrian
scale
is
now
about
car
scale.
A
So,
although
the
exercise
to
us
is
to
look
at
the
list
and
say
thumbs-up
thumbs-down
and
what
are
our
suggestions,
it
seems
to
me
that
it
should
be
treated
and
that's
what
I'm
struggling
with,
because
I
understand
the
limitation
ability
budget
as
well.
But
at
the
same
time,
if
a
project
was
brought
to
us.
B
Me
just
add
sorry,
remember
McCoy.
As
chair
song
is
indicated,
we
do
have
a
limited
budget.
However,
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board,
wanted
to
create
a
master
plan
for
the
site
so
that,
as
the
city
has
additional
funds
available,
we
would
be
able
to
enhance
that
landscape
plan.
So
we'll
take
care
of
what
we
can
take
care
of
with
the
existing
budget.
But,
as
we
have
more
funds
become
available,
will
then
be
able
to
implement
this
master
plan
in
phases.
B
C
H
Traveling
north
up
the
sidewalk
on
Palm
Canyon,
the
plants
that
have
been
put
in
our
perfectly
nice
plants
that
I've
gotta
say
those
are
the
plants
that
should
be
over
near
the
parking
area
and
the
plants
that
were
put
in
the
parking
area.
The
agaves
and
things
would
be
much
more
appropriate
on
Palm
Canyon,
the
growth
habit
of
the
plants,
it's
very
simple
in
looking
at
the
plants,
how
they
will
grow,
what
size
that
will
get
to
them
where
they
have
been
placed.
H
C
H
Know
I,
don't
know
how
much
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
can
reach
out
to
other
historic
groups
in
town
that
may
have
funds
or
philanthropic
groups
that
that
are
interested
in
historic
preservation
that
may
be
able
to
help
develop
rallying
to
improve
the
landscape.
I
think
that
suggestion
to
them
I.
B
H
H
A
E
Yeah
thanks
just
to
expand
on
that
question.
You're
asking
or
that
idea,
you're
presenting
I'm
just
gonna
ask
it
is
twenty:
is
it
worth
it
to
spend
any
money
at
all
right
now
or
wait
until
we
get
the
plan
and
by
the
way,
I
think
it's
a
super
fun
project
and
they
really
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
review
this
and
hope
to
be
involved
with
it
more,
but
I
do
wonder
it
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
to
seams
and
I.
E
B
Of
the
concerns
of
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
is
we
are
now
in
season
and
they
wanted
to
see
some
plant
materials
there
so
that
the
school
doesn't
look
bedraggled.
If
you
will
with
the
areas
that
are
dead
or
dying,
it
just
has
kind
of
a
haphazard
appearance,
and
so
they
did
want
some
materials
there
on
the
site.
But
as
you
recommend,
it
might
be
better
to
focus
that
in
one
area,
perhaps
on
the
palm
canyon
side,
I,
don't
know
another
thing
to
keep
in
mind
about
the
budget.
B
H
C
E
E
Feel
like
it,
if
it
were
my
building
or
our
project,
we'd
say
well,
let's
just
wait
not
spend
any
of
this
money,
but
it's
not
in
they're,
anxious
to
get
some
planting
and
make
some
wise
decisions
about.
It
should,
in
addition
to
the
ground,
cover
comments
which
I'm
not
quite
sure
we
can
do
much
about
and
I
know
that
a
verse
gets
really
expensive.
E
It's
Betty,
especially
using
city
details
or
standard
details
and
properly
installing
them
for
liability
purposes,
with
proper,
concrete,
underneath
and
mortaring
them
in
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
I
I
wouldn't
recommend
that
as
a
phase
one,
it
would
seem
to
me
that
the
southwest
corner
of
Alejo
and
palm
north
palm
canyon
would
be
a
good
place.
That's
high-traffic
area,
major
intersection,
major
visual
corridor.
They
are
right
around
the
water
feature
or
other
areas
around
there.
D
A
I
think
member
Shawn,
you
were
giving
us
a
facing
on
the
priority
of
which
areas
to
start
with,
but
so
so
this
is
what
we
go
back
to
I.
Think
in
general,
I
think.
What
we
were
just
been
discussed
is
that
you
got
six
designers
and
I
could
take.
You
know
experts
and
we
will
all
have
different
ideas
of
what
this
would
be.
A
The
right
thing
to
do,
I
think
there's
been
a
somewhat
of
a
blessing
on
materialist,
but
we're
also
highly
concerned
on
how
they're
going
to
be
composed
on
how
many
and
what
is
the
spacing
going
to
be
so
I
think
we
are
hesitant
to
get
that
kind
of
recommendation
and
I.
Think
for
professionally,
for
any
recommendation
will
be
hey.
This
has
to
be
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
struggling
with.
E
Yep
right
on
the
money
and
I
feel
like
with
looking
at
these
eight
plants,
it's
difficult
for
me.
I
feel
like
they're.
All
out
of
context
right,
like
we're.
Seven
out
of
these
I
think
are
pretty
good,
they're,
okay
and
don't
love
them
all,
but
I'm,
also
not
sure
of
where
they're
going
are
they
being
used
in
the
right.
Layering
is
the
right
thing:
gonna
be
planted
in
front
of
them,
or
is
it
just
gonna
be
random?
They
tossed
around
the
site,
and
just
so
we're.
F
E
E
D
F
A
I
Pretty
much
in
agreement
that
the
only
danger
I
think
in
sort
of
focusing
well,
it
depends
on
which
one
which
area
we
focus
on,
but
I
think
you
know
the
section
near
Alejo
in
North,
Palm
Canyon
might
be
an
ideal
place
to
have
a
bench
or
something
because
it's
part
of
it.
It's
close
to
the
plaza
it's
close
to
the
entrance
to
the
theater.
If
we
focus
energy
they're
putting
plants,
we
don't
have
a
plan
for
where
the
how
the
bench
with
benches
would
be
layout
laid
out.
So
there's
some
danger.
A
B
Able
to
read
the
subtext
of
your
comment
and
you'll
note
in
our
water
efficient
landscape
guidelines,
the
instructional
booklet
that
we
put
together
a
couple
of
years
ago
with
the
AAC,
the
color
that
is
there
currently
is
not
one
of
the
recommended
yuji's
that
we
have
in
the
book.
So
we
would
also
recommend
that
we
look
at
something
that
is
more
appropriate
for
the
setting.
Shall
we
say
any.
C
C
D
D
C
E
F
On
sidewalk
along
the
street
and
shrubs
between
that
wall
and
the
building,
no
grass
there,
the
grass
was
in
the
courtyards
and
around
the
back.
This
is
probably
in
the
70s
or
80s.
Wherever
all
the
straight
lines
came
out
and
everybody
started
doing
the
curvy
walkways
and
things
I,
don't
know
how
much
it
needs
to
go
back
to
the
historical
original
design
and
I.
Don't
know
if
anybody
even
has
it,
but
it's
just
so
chopped
up
now
mm-hmm.
F
It
really
has
to
have
a
professional
design.
Person
come
up
with
this
master
plan.
Let
that
person
bring
us
a
list
of
appropriate
materials.
I
think
it
would
certainly
make
a
lot
more
sense
if
some
of
the
existing
material,
that's
gonna,
remain
that's
adjacent
to
the
buildings,
be
used
in
the
new
scheme
so
that
you
don't
feel
like
something
on
one
side
of
the
sidewalk
is
totally
foreign
mm-hmm.
B
B
You've
actually
had
some
experience
with
the
site.
It
sounds
from
your
comments
that
I've
got
a
list
of
recommendations
to
take
back
to
the
historic
site
preservation
board.
If
I
could
just
go
through
those
with
you
right
now
number
one.
One
of
your
recommendations
is
to
focus
the
limited
budget
on
a
specific
area
to
give
us
the
most
bang
for
our
buck,
rather
than
trying
to
spread
it
throughout
the
site.
B
Secondly,
in
terms
of
the
plant
list,
the
Hibiscus
is
inappropriate.
Look
at
incorporating
existing
materials,
such
as
the
verbena
and
natal
plum,
or
two
of
the
materials
that
were
said
as
being
incorporated
as
part
of
that
in
terms
of
the
entire
site.
Look
at
the
different
areas,
Palm
Canyon,
being
distinct
from
Indian
Canyon
and
from
gran
vía
of
El
Montay,
and
treat
those
differently
based
on
the
use.
Also
looking
at
traffic
and
specifically
pedestrian
traffic
along
Palm
Canyon
in
terms
of
those
perimeter
landscape
areas
that
more
durable
materials
may
be
more
appropriate
they're.
B
Looking
at
things
such
as
pavers,
artificial
turf
or
something
similar
in
those
areas,
the
color
of
the
decomposed
granite
is
inappropriate
for
the
desert.
Setting
we'll
just
go
ahead
and
say
it
and
then,
let's
see
there
was
one
more
comment
there
that
I
thought
that
I
missed.
Oh
one
of
the
other
things
you
would
have
liked
to
see.
The
master
landscape
plan
come
back
to
you
if
appropriate
and
so
I'll
make
that
recommendation
to
the
Historic
Site
Preservation
Board
as
well.
Does
that
encapsulate
most
of
your
comments?
Yeah.
A
E
A
B
Unless
there's
any
more
comments,
I'll
go
ahead
and
summarize
that
back
to
the
historic
site,
Preservation
Board
and
work
with
those
comments,
as
we
engage
a
landscape
architect
and
a
historian
to
look
at
the
site
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
bring
something
back
to
you
at
a
later
point
in
time.
So
thank
you
for
your
comments.
I
appreciate
your
input,
new.