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From YouTube: City Council | Apr 21 2022
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City of Palm Springs City Council meeting, held April 21st, 2022
A
Providing
a
time
to
remember
those
lost
by
violent
crime
remains
important
to
us
and
close
to
my
heart.
Personally,
there
are
victims
and
their
families
that
I've
met
under
unfortunate
circumstances
of
them
being
victims
of
violent
crime
or
losing
a
loved
one
victims
rights
week
is
a
time
that
I
can
pause
and
remember
them.
We
want
to
provide
the
same
opportunity
to
our
community
members
this
year.
C
My
name
is
melissa,
donaldson
and
I'm
the
director
of
victim
services
here
in
the
riverside
county
district
attorney's
office
today
marks
the
beginning
of
national
crime
victims
rights
week
2022..
I
would
like
to
share
what
virtual
events
will
be
putting
on
for
the
community
tuesday.
We
start
with
a
new
program
called
stories.
It
stands
for
stories,
told
or
read
in
empowering
spaces.
C
The
mission
of
stories
is
to
empower
those
impacted
by
trauma
by
using
art
and
to
raise
awareness
through
the
power
of
storytelling
there'll,
be
an
exhibition
throughout
the
week.
Showcasing
survivor,
art
wednesdays,
we're
bringing
awareness
to
the
impact
sexual
assault
has
on
victims
and
our
county,
we're
partnering
with
riverside
university
health
systems,
molina
healthcare
and
the
safe
family
justice
centers
to
host
a
broad
drive
for
sexual
assault
survivors
evidence
collection
during
a
sexual
assault.
C
Exam
is
a
crucial
part
of
the
forensic
medical
examination
and
usually
includes
keeping
undergarments
for
the
biological
evidence
that
can
be
found
on
them.
The
purpose
of
this
multi-agency
broad
drive
is
to
have
the
ability
to
provide
a
replacement
broad
of
the
victim
when
the
exam
is
completed
and
also
to
bring
awareness
on
thursday
you're
going
to
see
our
fabulous
facility
dog,
canine
rachel.
You
will
see
and
hear
about
the
amazing
work
she
does
with
the
abused
children.
C
We
serve
the
comfort
she
provides
with
the
children
in
court,
helps
them
cope
with
the
trauma
they
have
endured
and
helps
them
tell
their
story.
We
end
the
week
by
honoring
memorializing
those
who
have
tragically
lost
their
lives
to
crime
by
sharing
each
and
every
name
we
know
being
a
victim
of
a
crime
can
be
catastrophic
to
you
and
your
family.
Here
at
the
riverside
county
da's
office,
we
strive
to
not
only
hold
those
who
commit
crimes
accountable,
but
also
to
provide
victims
of
crime
with
resources,
support
and
guidance.
B
D
F
B
E
Thank
you
so
much
for
you
and
your
colleague
for
being
here.
We
appreciate
all
your
work
on
behalf
of
victims
throughout
the
county,
so
thank
you
very
much
and
I've
had
the
privilege
of
working
with
the
victim
services
department,
as
well
as
the
family
justice
center.
So
I
know
that
firsthand
that
you
do
excellent
work.
So
we
have
a
proclamation
to
present
to
you
on
behalf
of
the
entire
city
council.
E
And
whereas
the
rights
of
crime
victims
are
best
protected
when
all
participants
in
the
criminal
justice
process,
not
only
victims,
are
appropriately
educated
about
victims
rights
and
whereas
we
must
help
victims
access
the
justice,
assistance
and
support,
they
need
to
rebuild
their
lives
and
whereas
advocacy
by
and
for
victims
of
crime
is
itself
a
form
of
seeking
justice.
No
less
than
justice
sought
in
the
courts
and
whereas
the
accomplishments
of
the
victims,
rights
movement
achieved
through
compassion
and
collaboration
and
built
on
the
courageous
advocacy
of
individual
victims
and
their
families
across
the
country.
E
Inspire
in
us
hope
for
future
progress
and
greater
healing
and
whereas
honoring
the
rights
of
victims,
including
the
right
to
be
heard
and
to
be
treated
with
fairness,
dignity
and
respect
builds
their
trust
in
the
criminal
justice
and
social
service
systems.
Whereas
we
are
determined
to
respond
to
crime
and
violence
by
helping
victims
find
not
only
support,
recovery
and
justice,
but
also
a
sense
of
hope
for
their
future.
And
whereas
national
crime
victims
rights
week
provides
an
opportunity
to
recommit
ensuring
that
accessible,
appropriate
and
trauma.
E
B
G
And
whereas
the
history
of
arab
americans
in
the
u.s
remains
neglected
or
defaced
by
misconceptions,
bigotry
and
anti-arab
hate
in
the
forms
of
crimes
and
speech.
And
whereas
arab-american
issues
such
as
civil
rights
abuses,
harmful
stereotyping
and
bullying
must
be
combated
in
the
forms
of
education
and
awareness.
G
And
whereas
they
join
all
americans
in
the
desire
to
see
a
peaceful
and
diverse
society
where
every
individual
is
treated
equally
and
feels
safe.
And
whereas
the
incredible
contributions
and
heritage
of
arab
americans
have
helped
us
build
a
better
nation
and
whereas
the
arab
america
foundation
celebrates
the
contributions
arab
americans
have
made
to
made
to
society
now.
G
Therefore,
we,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
palm
springs
by
the
power
vested
in
us,
do
hereby
proclaim
april
2022
to
be
national
arab
american
heritage
month,
and
we
encourage
our
citizens
to
join
us
in
this
special
observance,
and
this
proclamation
will
be
sent
to
the
arab
america
foundation.
Who
is
going
to
be
collecting
these
from
all
sorts
of
cities
across
the
nation?
So
thank
you
for
their
work
on
that
all
right.
B
Thank
you
mayor
pro
tem.
Our
next
item
is
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
The
city
council
will
discuss
the
order
of
the
agenda,
may
amend
the
order
of
add
urgency
items,
note,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
the
consent,
calendar
items
or
request
consent,
calendar
items
to
be
removed
for
a
separate
discussion.
B
B
B
H
H
So
I
just
want
to.
We
went
through
this
last
time
with
one
of
our
purchasing
things
when
we
were
looking
at
purchasing
shade
structures,
and
what
we
were
looking
at
is
to
make
sure
that
the
that
our
vendors
actually
enforce
their
non-um
discrimination
policies,
and
I
just
want
to
ensure
that,
as
we
look
at
some
of
these,
we
do
the
same
due
diligence
on
some.
Several
of
these
are
purchasing.
H
B
I
None
mayor,
I'm
sorry
as
long
as
we're
making
comments.
I
do
just
want
to
point
out
a
quick
typographical
error
on
item
1m,
which
is
a
proposal
to
waive
fees
associated
with
the
movie
series
to
be
held
at
our
downtown
park.
It
incorrectly
identified
that
movies
will
run
on
the
third
thursday
of
every
month.
That
would
conflict
with
village
fest.
They
will
in
fact
be
running
the
third
wednesday
of
each
month.
So
I'm
just
noting
that
typo.
E
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
also
add.
If
I
can
about
item
1e,
though
excuse
me,
1m,
the
waiver
of
fees
related
to
the
palm
springs
cultural
center
use
of
the
downtown
park
for
an
outdoor
summer
movie
series.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
cultural
center
for
bringing
that
forward.
I
think
that's
something
and
a
type
of
programming
for
the
community
that
we've
talked
about
for
many
many
years
in
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
it's
great
to
see
our
downtown
park
being
used
for
free
events
for
the
community.
E
B
D
J
B
All
right
public
testimony
is
the
next
item.
This
item
is
this
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
non-public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
You
are
asked
to
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you
are
speaking
about.
Please
note.
The
testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing
and
general
public
comment
on
subjects
not
on
the
agenda
will
be
taken
later
in
the
evening.
B
We
will
first
call
on
all
of
the
individuals
who
would
like
to
speak,
who
are
present
here
in
council
chambers,
and
then
we
will
begin
the
process
of
making
phone
calls
to
all
of
the
individuals
who
previously
identified
that
they
want
to
speak
this
evening
again,
we
will
give
two
minutes.
We
have
approximately
50
speakers.
B
K
It's
hard
to
listen
to
the
public
call
in
during
the
city
council
meetings
and
express
their
opinions
against
reparations
until
they
have
experienced
what
we
have.
They
cannot
understand
the
pain
and
anguish
that
we
have
gone
through.
As
I
read
the
staff
reports
and
other
articles,
it
breaks
my
heart
to
hear
us
being
called
relocates.
K
K
K
You
don't
just
snatch
someone's
home
away
and
tell
them
to
move
on
with
nothing
in
their
pockets,
and
you
don't
give
them
30
days
in
which
to
do
so
and
to
add
insult
to
injury,
you
make
it
sound.
You
are
willing
to
give
us
a
gift.
A
gift
is
something
voluntarily
transferred
by
one
person
to
another.
That
is
not
the
case
here.
K
Reparations
is
the
act
of
making
amends
for
a
wrong
or
injury.
This
gift
is
a
reparation
or
making
amends
for
wrong.
That
has
been
done
to
us.
The
city
has
recently
voted
to
provide
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
towards
a
transgender
income
pilot.
It's
due
to
the
discrimination
they
have
been
subjected
to.
People
of
color
have
been
discriminated
against,
all
their
lives.
K
We
are
all
human
beings,
don't
treat
us
with
disrespect
and
hate
as
if
we
have
no
feelings
or
are
too
ignorant
to
understand
the
depth
of
this
atrocity.
Please
listen
to
the
request
of
the
section
14
survivors,
those
most
impacted
and
the
community
groups
that
have
come
together
in
unity.
Thank
you.
C
Good
evening
honorable
mayor
lisa,
middleton
you're
pro
tim,
garner
city,
council,
members
and
staff,
my
name
is
alvin
taylor.
I
lived
on
and
survived
section
14
city
engineer
at
holocaust,
I'm
here
to
support
section
14
survivors,
which
I'm
also
a
member
of
I'd
like
to
thank
the
city
for
your
apology
and
intentions
to
set
right
the
wrongs
done
and
harms
cause
section.
14
victims,
the
city
of
palm
springs,
talks
about
not
being
proud
of
the
past
that
they
played,
while
at
the
same
time,
continuing
to
bring
more
harm.
C
C
We're
not
relocating
you're
relocating
you
move
from
wherever
city
that
you
move
from
to
settle
here
in
palm
springs.
I
was
born
here
in
palm
springs
on
60-14,
my
mom
and
dad
were
hard-working.
Law-Abiding
tax-paying
citizens
of
palm
springs
I'll,
never
forget.
As
a
young
boy
how
you
force
us
to
move,
we
were
heard
it
off.
Like
sheep
and
cattle
out
of
our
homes,
disregarded
as
humans
and
forced
to
move
we're
forced
to
move
victims,
not
relocatees,
we
were
forced
to
move
without
forced
to
move
relocation
fees.
C
C
Let's
repair,
the
harms
done,
whether
you
call
it
restitution
or
reparation
monies
need
to
be
paid,
and
I'm
reminded
in
closing
of
one
of
the
biggest
and
most
important
rules
that
I've
ever
heard,
and
it's
taken
from
luke
chapter
6,
verse,
31
and
it
says,
do
to
others
as
you
would
have
them
do
to
you.
Thank
you.
C
I
just
want
to
say
my
parents
was
on
the
reservation
in
1949
and
during
that
time
we
had
a
home.
We
had
places
and
stuff
to
do
and
stuff
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
we
got
a
thing
30
days
we
got
to
get
out
so
half
our
stuff,
we
never
even
got
it
got,
pushed
up
and
burnt
up
and
stuff,
and
I
think
something
should
be
done
about
that.
C
J
J
J
J
However,
I
need
to
better
understand
the
plan,
the
impact
and
how
the
relocatis
in
quotation
and
their
descendants
will
be
made
whole.
I
don't
have
enough
information,
let's
stop
using
that
word.
Relocate
these
are
residents
who
were
traumatized.
At
the
city's
hand,
their
homes
and
personal
property
were
destroyed.
J
L
L
L
L
What
they
thought
they
were
leaving
behind
was
some
of
the
racial
prejudice
that
was
much
more
visible
in
texas.
There
were
colored
water,
fountains
and
all
kinds
of
very
derogatory
things
that
that
existed
back
then,
and
they
thought
that
coming
to
california,
they
would
find
a
better
life
and
a
better
place
to
raise
their
children
free
from
racial
discrimination.
L
My
mom
worked
at
desert
hand
laundry.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
remember
the
old
desert
hat
laundry,
but
my
mom
worked.
When
we
came,
she
came.
She
had
eight
kids,
two
sets
of
twins
on
one
of
the
sets
and
my
dad
worked
at
the
hinkle
and
johnson's
gas
station
mom
and
dad
never
took
handouts,
never
took
welfare.
L
I
don't
know
if
there
was
even
food
stamps
back
then,
but
they
taught
us
instilled
us
in
principles
of
hard
work
and
being
the
best
you
could
be
and
unfortunately,
even
back,
then
we
had
to
be
10
times
better
than
our
peers,
and
so
I
remember
as
a
child,
I
was
quite
young
back
then
seven,
eight
years
old,
but
I
remember
playing
on.
I
have
a
a
map
there.
L
I
could
show
you
where
my
dad
took
me
where
we
lived
my
mom
and
dad
built
a
home
which
is
now
desert
highlands
community
center.
What
was
called
back
then
the
on
the
north
end.
They
moved
us
to
the
north
end
of
town.
There
was
nothing
out
there,
but
rocks
and
a
lot
of
wind,
but
they
they
did
not
complain
they
just
rolled
up
their
sleeves
put
their
boots
on.
L
I
don't
consider
myself
a
relocate,
relocate
loki.
I
don't
my
calling
is
in
in
the
ministry
and
I
was
sent
by
my
call
from
god
to
pastor
an
indio.
So
I
guess
you
can
blame
god
for
my
not
living
in
palm
springs.
My
choice
of
cities
would
have
been
palm
springs.
I
grew
up
here,
but
I'm
not
a
relocatee
and
none
of
us
are.
It
would
be
like
telling
the
indians
who
were
on
the
trail
of
tears.
Your
time
has
elapsed.
L
They
cannot
get
any
reparations
because
they
were
forced
to
leave.
I
support
sister
pearl
taylor
and
the
survivors
of
section
14
that
the
city
warren
miller
and
I
and
I
forgive
me
one
miller
who
the
attorney
general
in
1965,
wrote
a
report
regarding
the
incident
and
he
concluded
that
what
the
city
of
palm
springs
did,
although
wasn't
deemed
criminal.
He
said
it
was
a
uniquely
insensitive
for
what
the
city
of
palm
springs
did
and
to
continue
to
use.
Insensitive
words
still
suggests
that.
D
N
M
M
Build
hotels
and
other
buildings
to
enrich
for
enrichment.
However,
the
city
has
no
regards
for
the
families
that
lived
in
the
area,
although
the
city
has
acknowledged
and
apologized
for
the
damage.
I
strongly
believe
this
is
unjust.
Enrichment
of
the
city
of
palm
springs
give
rise
to
the
obligation
of
the
city
to
repay
direct
survivors,
an
adjustment
that
was
committed
against
us
and
our
families.
D
N
N
N
The
good
hard-working
men
and
women
on
section
14
made
the
best
of
the
situation.
They
taught
their
children
to
persevere
in
spite
of
obstacles.
Some
have
inferred
that,
because
of
the
city's
actions,
we
were
saved
from
what
they
described
as
a
dismal
existence
and
thrive
going
forward
as
a
result
of
their
actions.
As
a
descendant
of
section
14,
I
am
a
graduate
of
occidental
college
and
have
three
daughters
who
have
advanced
graduate
degrees
in
various
disciplines.
N
O
O
I
live
in
the
desert,
highland
gateway
estates,
neighborhood,
where
my
families
live
for
over
60
years,
my
family
moved
here
to
palm
springs
in
the
early
1950s
and
settled
on
the
section
14
of
the
agua
caliente
indian
reservation,
like
most
minority
residents
due
to
de
facto
segregation
and
deed
restrictions.
At
the
time,
homeowners
who
leased
lots
on
section
14
saw
their
homes
destroyed
without
notice
in
their
personal
property,
burned
about
a
thousand
people.
People
were
involved
in
the
evictions,
and
200
homes
were
demolished.
O
Today
we
know
an
average
home
in
palm
springs
is
1.3
million
dollars,
but
not
only
did
palm
springs
destroy
our
homes,
they
also
stripped
us
of
institutional
wealth.
So
black
indigenous
and
people
of
color,
we
developed
our
own
religious
and
social
and
cultural
institutions.
On
section
14.,
we
had
meeting
places
for
these
groups,
including
private
homes,
as
well
as
communal
buildings,
and
these
institutions
provided
social
support,
fellowship
opportunities
and
means
of
expressing
cultural
identity
for
communities
of
color.
O
During
times
of
hardship.
These
institutions
were
rallying
points
for
our
close-knit
community
and
a
vehicle
for
connecting
the
larger
political,
social
and
ideological
ideological
issues
of
the
time.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
make
note
of
that
as
well.
The
institutions
that
we
lost
and
that
were
broken
up
that
were
on
section
14.,
as
we
heard
here
a
lot
of
the
elders.
You
know
they
want
monetary
payments.
O
L
Thank
you,
hi
mayor.
I
would
like
to
say
I
thank
you
for
coming
to
the
table.
Finally
and
accepting
your
responsibility.
Things
happen
in
life,
we're
not
all
perfect,
but
me
myself
and
I'm
representing
the
brown
family
and
one
of
them
that
had
just
talked.
I
had
got
most
of
the
impact
in
63..
I
was
a
toddler
that
got
badly
burnt
from
here
my
this
side
and
my
leg.
This
is
my
oldest
sibling
out
of
my
father's
five
kids
nemai
brown
that
officially
moved
there
in
the
50s.
L
They
were
there
for
sammy
brown
and
my
sister
older
sister,
that's
82,
gertrude
brown,
I'm
the
baby
on
their
father's
side
and
I'm
the
second
to
the
baby
on
my
mother's
side,
irma
walton.
So
what
I'm
here
to
say
is
I
vaguely
remember
things
but
the
history
that
I
went
over
the
years
and
did
my
research,
it's
not
just
all
so
section
14..
L
We
got
displaced,
misplaced
and
you're,
trying
to
erase
us
on
a
north
end
of
palm
springs
that
you
put
us
on.
Where
we
couldn't
even
buy
homes,
we
couldn't
even
buy
vehicles.
We
had
to
get
our
properties
put
in
caucasian
people's
name.
One
of
the
ladies
name
was
mrs
virginia
lee.
That
was
very
nice
to
my
family.
I
remember
her
like
it
was
yesterday.
It
was
so
hot
when
you
put
us
in
those
barracks
on
the
north
end.
That
was
military
basis.
I
have
pictures,
I
have
documents
I
have
times
I
have
photos.
L
I
even
have
things
of
mr
beauregard
saying
slur,
slur
racist
statement.
You
put
us
on
a
toxic
soil
that
I've
been
fighting
you
guys
for
years
coming
here,
that
our
peoples
are
dying
from
young
to
old,
to
baby,
rapidly
from
asbestos,
a
silver
top
apartment
that
got
tore
down
because
of
the
comet
contamination.
L
Where
I
paid
myself
did
a
video
15
years
ago
with
sunny
hall
and
larry
holland
when
we
got
the
gym
of
the
north
and
cleaned
up
with
badgerism
and
asbestos,
you
have
did
nothing
but
try
to
discredit
me
and
erase
me,
but
god
is
not
gonna
allow
it.
The
blood
is
on
your
hands
with
your
generations
of
kids,
that's
out
here
homeless
today
and
I'm
trying
not
to
be
racist,
but
I
have
lived
to
see
some
things.
If
you
don't
amen
and
make
right
with
justice,
that's
directly
serve
to
our
people.
You
haven't
seen
nothing.
L
Yet
this
stuff
is
going
to
be
chaotic.
We
already
in
a
war
with
ukraine
innocent
people,
because
one
man
wanted
to
start
a
war
for
his
self-gain
and
innocent
lives
are
being
shed.
We
don't
want
that
same
thing
happen
here
in
our
own
backyard.
If
you
guys
don't
make
amends
of
what
you
have
started
and
do
right
by
our
people
of
afro-american.
D
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
D
N
N
Homes
were
bulldozed
and
burnt
down,
people
lost
their
worldly
possessions,
people
were
displaced
and
some
with
nowhere
to
go.
Homes
were
actually
set
on
fire,
while
people
were
still
in
them.
We
personally
lost
our
two-bedroom
trailer
and
a
bigger
room
that
my
dad
had
built
on
the
back.
If
I
was
to
compare
this
to
what's
going
on
in
ukraine
and
russia
today,
I
would
say
that
it
is
tantamount
just
on
a
pine
needle
scale.
N
N
N
He
may
have
done
good
things
for
the
city,
but
it
only
displays
a
negative
representation
for
those
who've
suffered
by
the
horrible
decision
making
on
his
behalf
now.
What
we
are
seeking
for
is
a
monetary
compensation
for
direct
survivors,
community
resource
for
descendants
and
survivors,
affordable
housing,
educational
grants,
business
grants,
business
opportunity,
grants
to
member
to
memorialize
significance,
documents,
exhibits
and
educational
curriculum
memories,
statues
street
names,
grants
for
non-profit
organizations
already
providing
community
service,
and
I
just
like
to
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today.
N
D
M
P
D
J
J
J
J
D
C
My
name
is
jason
olvera.
I
am
writing
in
support
of
the
sex
scene
section
protein
survivors.
I
want
to
thank
the
palm
springs
city
council
for
acknowledging
the
wrong
and
for
issuing
an
official
apology.
I
am
a
descendant
of
of
the
section
14
survivors,
my
grandfather,
built
a
home
with
his
own
hands
for
my
grandmother,
my
mother
and
her
siblings,
to
grow
up,
and
this
home
was
demolished
illegally
by
the
city
of
palm
springs.
C
Only
having
two
minutes
of
your
time
is
not
nearly
nearly
enough
of
your
attention
to
express
the
negative
impact
that
my
family
has
experienced
from
these
selfish
rats.
Apologizing
is
not
enough
for
the
suffering
that
the
city
of
palm
springs
has
caused
on
the
section
14
survivors,
including
my
family.
The
survival
of
the
survivors
of
section
14
should
not
only
receive
monetary
reparation,
but
also
receive
everything
they're
asking
for.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
J
Really,
I
think,
what's
most
important
is
that
we
listen
to
the
victims
of
section
14
and
what
they
want,
and
you
know
my
understanding,
that's
reparations,
and
it's
not
just
enough
to
offer
reparations
to
the
people
that
survived
or
their
descendants
that
are
still
in
palm
springs.
We
know
who
these
people
are,
we
can
find
them
and
we
should
be
paying
reparations
to
anybody
affected,
whether
they
have
moved
out
of
the
city
limits
or
not
real
quick.
D
N
Oh
sorry,
I
had
a
back
what
you
got:
okay
I'll
start
now:
hello
palm
springs
city.
My
name
is
garrett
patel.
I
am
a
section
14
survivor
born
to
olden
lee
grisel
and
topeka
griffel
in
1956,
as
they
were,
building
and
nurturing
our
family
section
14
victims
with
several
of
my
answers
and
also
the
girl's
family.
All
greatly
affected
me
from
this
ill-planned
convention.
N
N
Many
of
this
class
minorities
were
highly
motivated
not
only
to
help
develop
the
great
city
of
palm
scripture,
but
very
instrumental
in
community
development
programs
and
education.
For
this
reason,
I
realized
why
my
mother
never
hoped
about
this
as
a
campus,
as
I
remember
in
their
life,
they
did
not
want
to
pass
their
discernment
onto
us,
be
my
answer
and
I
would
motivate
the
entire
family
to
have
better
lives.
N
N
This
history
of
possibilities,
california,
was
a
horrified
thought
to
them
to
live
through,
as
we
turn
to
the
decision
to
find
out.
At
this
point,
our
lives:
what
happened
to
them
affecting
their
plight
for
survival.
Today,
we
relive
the
horrified
thing
in
their
life.
I
have
a
question
to
the
pumps
that
account
for
what
and
why
the
urgency
to
push
the
people
of
section
14
out
of
their
homes
off
their
property.
D
N
Jerry
payne,
my
grandfather
back
in
the
early
1940s
moved
his
family
of
five
children
to
palm
springs
from
texas,
and
we
the
very
reason
that
he
moved
from
texas
to
thomas
and
californians
to
have
a
better
life
and
in
palm
springs.
The
same
thing
happened
in
palm
springs.
That
was
a
reason
that
he
left
because
of
the
inhumane
treatment
of
people
of
color
and
the
atrocities
have
been
there
in
the
south.
But
when
he
goes
here,
you
know
we
had.
C
N
D
N
N
N
D
J
N
N
Is
home
home
the
place
we
structure
in
our
security,
the
place
where
we
form
the
ideas
and
values
of
our
lives
and
our
children's
lives?
The
place
we
hold
as
our
inner
city,
our
sanctuary,
the
place
where
we
teach
our
children
of
the
rewards
for
working,
hard
and
god-fearing,
honest
and
doing
the
right
thing
home
can
be
a
tent.
A
mansion
or
anything
in
between
home
is
community
homeless.
Culture
home
is
the
place
of
love
and
hugs
warm
acceptance.
N
N
N
You
also
smell
that
future.
Yet
all
too
familiar
stage
of
racism
on
the
deep
south
section
14
in
palm
springs
california,
for
all
of
you
that
can
hear
this
please
share
and
as
family
members
and
associates
young.
No
just
one
question:
if
your
home
was
illegally
destroyed
without
the
due
process
of
law
or
any
conspiracy
of
human
tendency,
should
you
be
cognizant.
D
C
D
P
Universe,
workers
and
visitors
of
the
city
of
palm
springs.
My
name
is
elizabeth
and
I'm
a
resident
of
palmsburg
since
1996..
I
grew
up
here.
I
work
here.
I
live
here
in
this
aesthetically
beautiful
city,
where
we
are
people
behind
higher
ugly
paths.
We
do
what's
right
here.
We
need
to
ride
our
wrongs,
but
the
residents
of
section
18
survivors
of
section
14..
P
We
must
probably
do
some
full
reparations
of
their
land,
their
dignity,
where
we
have
more
than
enough
evidence
of
our
mistakes
and
mr
of
our
black
and
brown
community
26
years
in
this
wonderful
city,
and
I
can
say
that
it's
an
example
of
what
it
is
to
be
jealous.
I
went
to
school
with
the
fact
that
family
members
of
this
betrayal
and
on
my
twitter
also
condenses
friends
and
as
friends
of
defective
families,
I
have
seen
how
this
violent,
unfair
action
has
affected
them.
Let's
do
right
we're
better
by
this.
P
D
M
P
P
I
would
like
to
urge
you
all
to
complete
the
assignment
and
seriously
consider
paying
compensatory
damages
for
the
harm
your
city
admitted
to
inflicting
upon
section
14
survivors
and
their
ancestors.
Now
is
the
time
for
repair
and
reparative.
Justice
is
not
telling
a
group
of
black
people
you
harmed.
What
redress
is
reparative
justice
is
not
pushing
forward
a
lackluster
agenda
and
hoping
to
get
public
recognition
for
being
trailblazers.
P
It
is
listening
to
the
people
who
were
harmed
and
seriously
considering
what
they
being
necessary
to
remedy
the
wounds.
The
city
of
palm
springs
inflicted
reparative.
Justice
is
not
forcing
your
ideals
of
reparations
down
their
toes
and
telling
them
to
be
happy.
They
get
something.
Something
is
not
enough.
P
This
country
has
expected
us
to
be
happy
with
the
scraps.
They've
thrown
our
way
for
far
too
long,
and
you
all
have
a
unique
opportunity
to
change
that.
It's
a
set
of
precedent
now
is
the
time
for
redress.
Now
is
the
time
to
decolonize
the
way
in
which
this
country
sees
and
implements
reparative
justice
for
black
people.
P
D
R
Hello
council.
Thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
My
name
is
melissa
lores
and
I
work
for
liftorize,
I'm
also
a
resident
of
palm
springs
district
1..
I
wanted
to
speak
here
tonight
to
offer
some
data
that
speaks
to
why
I
look
to
rise
and
our
partners
are
calling
for
you
to
meaningfully
involve
the
participation
and
feedback
of
section
14,
survivors
and
descendants,
as
you
consider
restorative
justice
for
them,
including
monetary
compensation
and
community
improvement
measures.
R
The
connection
between
the
destruction
of
200
homes,
of
families,
of
color
in
section
14
and
contemporary
racial
inequalities
and
home
ownership
rates
and
income
is
without
question
in
palm
springs.
Today,
41
percent
blind
households
own
their
homes
compared
to
71
of
non-hispanic,
white
households
and
census
data
reveals
that
homeowners
in
palm
springs
are
in
double
what
renters
earn
in
terms
of
income.
R
These
outcomes
continue
to
impede
the
ability
of
black
households
to
build
generational
wealth
beyond
barriers
of
generational
wealth
building,
the
section
14
survivor
families
face
the
cost
of
relocation,
replacing
belongings
and
suffering
emotional
trauma
due
to
the
actions
of
the
city
of
palm
springs.
The
resident
of
these
actions.
The
results
of
these
actions
are
visible
in
north
palm
springs,
desert
highlands,
gateway
states,
neighborhood,
where
many
displaced
families
relocated
41
of
the
children.
There
live
below
the
poverty
line,
which
is
more
than
double
the
rate.
County-Wide
16,
the
median
household
income
in
desert
highlands
gave.
R
Trump's
residence
overall
is
36
321
dollars
per
year
about
20
thousand
dollars
lower
than
city-wide
median
household
income.
For
these
reasons,
we
urge
you
to
meaningfully
address
these
disparities,
which
can
be
traced
back
to
the
city's
actions
decades
ago
by
quickly
effectuating
monetary
compensation
to
section
14
survivors
and
their
descendants.
D
N
N
D
R
R
Our
parents
were
pioneers
that
moved
from
several
southern
states.
They
were
told
that
there
was
plenty
of
work
in
palm
springs
and
a
new
beginning
for
them.
One
came
and
hundreds
followed:
our
parents
became
hardworking
individuals
helping
to
build
the
city
of
palm
springs.
They
were
treated
as
modern
day
indentured
servants
with
carrots
or
dreams
dangled
in
front
of
them.
R
They
were
problems
for
their
hard
work,
but,
as
we
know,
they
would
never
receive
great
benefits,
such
as
a
home
ownership
or
entrepreneurship,
because
the
city
of
palm
springs,
redlined
them
from
being
able
to
get
loans,
buy
homes
and
make
a
better
life
for
us,
their
children.
When
the
city
got
greedy,
they
convinced
aquacaliente
indians
that
they
could
get
more
money
for
that
land
and
fall
commercial
development.
That's
when
they
decided
to
push
us
out.
The
indians
were
totally
issued.
R
So-Called
30-day
notices
of
evacuation
evacuation,
however,
some
received
a
30-day
vote,
but
homes
were
demolished
or
burnt
within
10
days.
This
was
a
wrong
that
was
done
by
the
city
of
palm
springs.
It
was
ruined
from
the
start,
as
we
see
now.
If
we
had
resided
at
the
property
and
homes
would
have
remained
and
built
properly,
that
investment
and
the
financial
gain
that
would
have
been
had
would
have
been
much
greater
than
than
they
were
for
those
that
had
to
be
displaced
who
drew
over
250
families
palm
springs.
R
You
need
to
do
what's
right,
forge
ahead.
Make
this
wrong
or
right,
be
the
first
to
correct
the
city's
indiscretions
formed
by
the
then
mayor,
frank
bogart.
His
wrongdoing
by
palm
springs
is
in
black
and
white
pardon
the
pond,
but
this
needs
to
be
done
and
it
needs
to
be
done
right
and
it
needs
to
be
done
right
now.
Today,
many
questions
have
been
asked
as
to
where
survivors
are
residing
at
this
time.
In
their
life,
many
have
moved
on
past
palm
springs,
but
realize
will
always
be
palm
springs
will
always
be
your
home.
R
D
N
N
N
N
N
M
D
R
R
R
I
know
that
there,
I'm
a
member
of
the
measure,
j
commission
and
there's,
been
extreme
frustration
around
communication
with
council
and
I
reviewed
also
the
agenda
item
around
kind
of
recommendations
and
I'm
what
I
don't
really
see
are
kind
of
measurable
or
kind
of
clear
indications
of
what
success
looks
like
six
months,
12
months
from
now
and
I'm
frankly
just
a
little
concerned.
We're
going
to
be
at
the
same
place
a
year
from
now
than
where
we
are
a
few
items
to
know
around
improving
policies
around
commissions
is.
R
I
understand
that
there
is
a
desire
to
be
in
unison
with
what
the
priorities
of
council
are
for
the
given
year.
But
it
seems
to
me
that
there's
such
an
effort
for
everything
to
be
in
unison
that
we're
moving
at
a
snail
pace
and-
and
that
doesn't
seem
like
the
most
efficient
use
of
time,
for
both
the
volunteers
of
the
commission
or
for
council
to
to
be
honest
and,
lastly,
around
item
3c,
which
is
around
the
pilot
for
speed
cameras.
R
I
don't
really
understand
why
there
are
other
things
that
we
can
do
to
improve
pedestrian
safety,
like
increasing
that
are
proven
best
practices
around
the
built
environment
to
improve
walkability,
to
improve
pedestrian
safety
to
you
know,
make
it
just
a
safer
place
to
walk
and
drive
your
car
to
move
so
quickly.
To
you
know
to
cameras
that
are
monitoring
drivers
where
we
could
be,
you
know,
putting
more
crosswalks,
we
could
fix
the
crosswalks
that
are
broken
downtown,
which
have
been
broken
for
over
a
year.
D
Q
D
N
N
N
N
I
can
go
on,
but
I
only
have
two
minutes.
Your
apology
is
fruitless.
If
you
try
to
share
something
down
our
throat
that
fits
your
agenda
instead,
listen
to
what
we
are,
what
we
feel
will
help
us
heal
and
move
on
from
the
evil
that
was
done
not
so
long
ago
to
our
family.
We
lost
everything
and
please
do
not
consider
reparation
a
gift.
It
was.
It
is
what
is
old
and
long
overdue.
N
My
father
was
a
master
welder,
carpenter,
mechanic
and
mason.
My
mother
was
a
gifted
business
woman,
like
so
many
others
in
our
community.
We
had
something
in
our
community
that
other
communities
would
die
for,
and
that
is
togetherness
and
love,
and
no
one
went
without
your
engineer.
Destruction
of
our
community
destroyed
all
of
that.
N
N
It
is
known.
You
did
not
wait
forever
to
give
the
lbgt
funds
or
build
a
homeless
shelter
in
our
neighborhood
for
your
children
undesirable.
So
don't
drag
your
feet
with
us
and
please
stop
calling
us
evacuees.
We
will
push
bulldoze
and
burned
out
with
no
eviction
notice
call
us
what
we
were
at
the
time:
victims
of
an
evil
act
and
now
survivors.
D
N
You
may
be
good,
my
name
is
darius
white,
I'm
a
descendant
of
section
14
and
my
mother
and
uncles
are
survivors
as
a
young
man,
a
youth.
I
heard
stories
from
my
mom
and
uncles
that
seemed
to
be
a
good
life
for
them
on
the
reservation
and
now
that
I'm
an
adult
and
I'm
hearing
the
other
side,
the
other
the
reasons
of
why
they
had
to
leave
the
reservation
it's
devastating
and
horrific.
D
D
Currently,
I
live
in
desert
hot
springs.
My
father
was
the
first
african-american
mortician
in
houston,
texas,
with
the
money
he
had
saved
from
his
mortuary
business.
He
relocated
here
to
build
a
life
in
california
being
african-american.
He
was
unable
to
buy
land
in
this
area,
so
he
leased
the
only
available
land
which
was
on
the
indian
reservation
he
invested
by
building
to
have
security.
He
attempted
to
purchase
the
land
on
so
many
occasions
to
secure
our
investments.
D
After
the
lease
was
revoked
and
we
suffered
financial
loss
with
this
financial
setback.
He
had
to
work
much
more
to
save
money.
To
start
all
over
again,
everything
was
lost.
I
don't
remember
much
because
I
was
very
young.
I
was
born
in
1953
and
he
had
come
here
in
the
40s
he
investigated
and
loved
this
place.
D
I
really
the
most
thing
I
really
missed
was
the
loss
of
our
yard
and
our
garden,
where
I
spent
most
of
the
time
it
was
gone.
I
I
couldn't.
I
didn't
understand
why?
Why
and
we,
when
we
moved
to
day
palm
and
ramon,
they
hated
us
there
as
well,
and
it
was
nothing
but
sand
dunes
at
the
time
they
didn't
want
us
to
live
there.
Our
home
was
burnt
down
that
my
dad
built
two
times.
This
wasn't
even
the
reservation.
D
D
My
mom
chose
to
leave
in
search
of
monetary
opportunities
and
a
security
for
us
as
a
family,
mostly
because
of
the
threats
that
we
received
on
a
regular
basis.
Our
family
moved
to
banning,
and
then
we
moved
to
los
angeles
and
we
spent
every
summer
here,
visiting
our
father
and
later
my
husband
and
I
we
decided
to
move
back
because
we
still
love
this
place.
D
N
Yes,
my
name
is
frank
parker
and
I
was
born
in
1951
and
I'm
a
survivor.
My
mother
and
father
were
survivors.
My
mother
still
lives
in
palm
springs.
I
had
a
grandmother
that
lived
at
663
date
street,
which
was
one
of
the
addresses.
I
remember
another
was
the
corner
of
ramon
road
in
el
cajon.
I
mean
elsa
gun
and
I,
but
I'm
gonna,
know
about
this.
N
It's
not
a
matter
of
want
preparation,
it
warrants
reparation
and
what
is
difficult
for
me
is
to
have
this
conversation,
absolutely
the
sign
of
anger,
but
I'm
doing
this
with
prayer,
and
I
don't
know
what
what's
ahead
in
your
in
your
thoughts
about
our
argument
or
presentation,
but
I'm
sure
I'll
be
back
again.
So
thank
you.
D
M
M
So
when
we
are
thinking
about
the
nature
of
being
forcibly
removed
and
victimized
by
a
city
government,
probably
one
of
the
least
impactful
resolutions
would
be
a
park
or
a
community
center.
The
like,
oh
with
it,
and
that's
the
very
place
they
were
told,
to
leave
from
to
put
parks
and
recreation
centers
and
to
that's
city
obligations
where
the
victims
were
relocated
to
that
should
already
be
happening.
Those
are
gifts.
M
M
Be
the
forefront
in
the
west
to
see
how
reparations,
monetarily
speaking
would
go
for
the
people
who
had
to
relocate,
so
that
is
los
angeles
residents
like
we've
heard
colin,
that
is
the
nearby
counties
and
cities
not
necessarily
palm
springs,
but
palm
springs
as
well,
and
I
would
like
to
thank
palm
springs
for
recognizing
that
this
is
an
issue
that's
still
visible
today
and
that
needs
to
be
taken
care
of.
But
let's
not
do
it
half-heartedly.
P
Oh
hi,
there
heather
vicona.
Thank
you
council
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name
is
heather
vaikona.
I
lead
lift
to
rise
a
non-profit
organization
that
convenes
cross-sector
partners
around
improving
housing,
stability
and
economic
mobility,
so
that
all
families
in
the
coachella
valley
are
healthy,
stable
and
thriving.
We
have
partnered
on
numerous
initiatives
with
the
desert,
highland
states,
community
action
association
and
the
palm
springs
black
history
committee
and
now
know
how
important
this
council
meeting
is
to
those
organizations
and
the
residents
they
represent,
lift
horizon.
P
The
city's
actions
forced
the
displacement
of
hundreds
of
families
of
color
and
destroyed
their
home
impeded
these
families
ability
to
build
generational
wealth.
We
believe
that
it
is
the
responsibility
of
the
city
of
palm
springs
to
recognize
the
agency
of
section
14
survivors
and
their
descendants
by
honoring
their
terms,
compensation.
P
We
support
monetary
compensation
to
survivors
of
this
racialized
violence
and
their
descendants
include
those
who
live
outside
of
palm
springs.
Additionally,
we
urge
the
city
of
palm
springs,
the
significant
land
across
the
city
and
in
the
desert,
highland
gateway
estates,
neighborhood,
where
many
section
14
survivor
located
to
support
the
construction
of
home
units
on
these
parcels
for
neighborhood
residents,
who
have
repeatedly
identified
affordable
home
ownership
as
a
community
priority.
P
P
D
D
C
Hi
just
want
to
say
real
quick.
Thank
you
for
the
time
for
what
it's
worth.
That
being
said,
I'm
calling
as
a
resident
of
a
former
resident
of
palm
springs
and
a
resident
of
the
coachella
valley.
Having
only
recently
heard
of
the
this
history,
that's
happened
here.
Quite
frankly,
I'm
appalled
and
I
think
the
city
of
palm
springs
should
be
doing
anything
and
everything
for
the
survivors
of
this
tragedy.
T
D
N
D
C
Democracy
my
comments
and
questions
about
the
speed
limit
and
use
of
cameras
issue
which
toward
you
this
evening,
but
first
I
I
am
strictly
concerned
that
we,
certain
those
cameras,
are
used
only
to
enforce
speed
laws,
as
distinct
from
either
profiling
or
causing
causing
stops
rests
for
violations
like
broken
taillights,
but
mostly
I
am.
I
am
curious
about
a
very
strange
fact
that
I
discovered
when
I
looked
at
this
speech,
where
the
speed
weapon
was
reduced.
C
C
N
The
city
council
for
this
apology
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
I'm
steve
walton
and
my
mother's
eye,
there's
taylor,
walton
inez,
walton
taylor,
excuse
me
and
we've
all
been
impacted
by
the
section
14.
and
what
I
really
wanted
to
say
is
that
you
know
we've
been
hurt
and
damaged
in
such
a
way
that
we're
all
trying
to
recover.
N
You
know
my
sister,
too
bonita
kirkwood
bonita,
walden
kirkwood
is
a
part
of
my
family
too,
we're
all
from
from
the
reservation.
They
called
it
section,
18,
section
14
and
we
just
want
to
show
the
appreciation.
You
know
we,
god
is
really
the
head
of
our
lives
and
we
really
want
to
address
this
in
a
proper
way.
So
I
don't
really
have
a
lot
to
say.
I
think
I'm
going
to
try
to
write
down
a
little
bit
more
for
the
council
and
share
my
most
inner
feelings.
D
R
N
N
N
N
B
I
want
to
thank
everyone
who
came
to
speak
this
evening,
everyone
who
called
in
to
speak
most
particularly,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
individuals
who
are
survivors
and
descendants
of
section
14
who
came
to
speak
this
evening
and
talk
about
the
history
that
you
learned
from
your
parents
and
your
grandparents.
We
thank
you
and
we
appreciate
how
emotional
and
difficult
some
of
those
conversations
were.
B
I
So,
mayor
and
council,
you
will
recall
that
we
had
a
first
meeting
to
discuss
a
potential
reparations
program
last
november
18th,
and
that
was
about
two
months
following
a
conversation
that
council
had
considering
the
removal
of
the
frank
bogart
statue
and
issuing
a
formal
apology
for
the
city's
role
in
section
14.,
just
to
kind
of
take
everybody
back
to
that
point.
We
noted
in
the
original
staff
report
that
staff
had
not
conducted
extensive
research
into
the
events
of
section
14
and
certainly
are
not
experts
in
reparations
programs.
I
We
did
do
some
preliminary
research
to
examine
what
we
thought
were
some
sparse
precedents
of
issuing
reparations
in
various
areas
of
the
country
historically
and
attempted
to
set
the
stage
by
providing
a
number
of
high-level,
framing
questions
that
would
help
council
consider
that
what
shape
a
reparations
program
might
take.
So
just
to
remind
you
and
our
audience
of
some
of
those
critical
questions
that
were
outlined
at
that
time
we
noted
very
broadly
and
in
conceptual
terms,
the
difference
between
a
settlement
and
an
atonement
approach.
I
So
we
were
instructed
at
that
meeting
to
come
back
with
two
things.
One.
We
were
asked
to
start
to
examine
some
of
the
programs
that
seem
to
be
most
appealing
to
the
broadest
number
of
council
members,
and
that
was
especially
some
of
the
housing
programs
and
I
believe
the
alignment
there
was
thought
to
be
in
part
that,
since
the
eviction
of
persons
from
section
14
was
really
involving
housing,
that
housing
would
be
an
appropriate
form
of
restitution.
I
I
So
in
terms
of
the
community
outreach
staff
did
have
a
meeting
with
representatives
from
desert
highlands,
gateway
estates,
members
of
the
black
history
committee
and
members
of
the
section
14
survivors.
There
was
also
included
in
that
meeting
a
representative
from
the
organization
where's,
my
land.
The
meeting
was
cordial.
We
exchanged
a
lot
of
information
primarily
to
let
them
know
where
we
had
been
and
where
we
saw
this
conversation
going
and
then
to
listen
and
have
a
have
dialogue
about
how
we
might
move
the
conversation
about
a
reparations
program
forward
from
there.
I
We
learned
that
the
group
had
already
done
some
careful
consideration
and
informed
us
at
the
time
that
they
would
submit
a
nine-point
plan.
We
have
since
received
that
plan,
although
I'll
note
that
we
received
it
really
close
to
when
we
issue
our
staff
reports
last
thursday.
So
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
review
it,
but
we
did
include
it
as
an
attachment
for
your
consideration.
I
I
It
did
indicate
a
desire
for
housing.
I
believe
identified
a
time
period
of
of
some
of
these
programs
roughly
25
years,
where
both
housing,
assistance,
housing,
rehabilitation
and
other
housing-related
programs
would
be
provided
that
there
would
be
a
business,
startup
or
other
economic
kind
of
assistance
to
help
establish.
I
So
I
indicated
the
staff
didn't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
examine
that
proposal
and
really,
while
it's
fairly
specific
in
terms
of
enumerating
a
number
of
things,
that
they
would
like
to
see
in
any
final
version
of
reparations,
there's
still
a
lot
to
define
in
those
broad
areas.
For
instance,
while
there
was
some
reference
to
say
a
time
period
whereby
something
like
educational
scholarships
might
be
provided,
didn't
indicate,
dollar
amounts
didn't
and
you
know
didn't
get
into
a
lot
of
detail
about
exactly
who
qualifies
as
descendants
etc.
I
But
we
have
not
looked
at
great
detail
with
some
of
those
case
studies.
So
council
is
certainly
free
to
direct
staff
to
conduct
additional
research,
especially
if
there's
clarification
on
whether
or
not
we
might
pursue,
say
a
settlement
approach
or
whether
there
would
be
consideration
of
payments
and
and
those
kinds
of
things
we
may
be
able
to
glean
from
very
limited
case
studies,
methodology
or
other
things.
I
Aspects
of
community
conversation
that
we
could
anticipate
to
repeat
here.
It
has
been
noted
that
there
isn't
a
lot
of
examples
and
some
people
you've
heard
urged
to
go
ahead
and
blaze
a
trail
so
I'll.
Just
reiterate
that
there
isn't.
There
aren't
a
lot
of
examples
to
lean
on,
but
some
of
the
ones
that
do
exist
may
may
be
able
to
reveal
insight.
I
Staff
did
also
include
in
the
report
some
programs
on
housing.
One
thing
that
was
made
clear
when
we
met
with
the
group-
and
I
think
it's
been
reiterated
a
couple
of
times
this
evening-
is
that
there's
some
desire
to
focus
the
conversation
on
the
question
of
financial
compensation
opposed
to
some
of
those
housing
programs.
You'll
recall
that
at
the
end
of
our
first
meeting
there
was
some
question
and
I
think,
a
lot
to
digest
and
council
members
hadn't
resolved
fully
what
they
wanted.
I
A
reparations
program
to
look
like
it
was
staff's
recommendation
at
that
time
that
one
approach
you
could
take
was
moving
forward
in
the
areas
where
there
was
broad
agreement
and
things
like
housing
program
reflected
the
areas
where
there
was
broad
agreement.
So
we
were
directed
to
follow
up
and
provide
you
some
more
substance
to
what
those
programs
might
look
like
and
that's
why
we've
brought
that
item
back
if
it's
council's
direction.
Alternatively,
to
do
something
different
to
consider
cash
payments
or
other
aspects
of
reparations.
I
Before
we
examine
those
housing
programs,
we
can
certainly
do
that,
but
since
it
was
council's
direction
to
bring
that
information
back,
we
did
include
that
information
in
the
staff
report
and
we're
happy
to
elaborate
on
some
of
that
analysis.
Now,
if
you'd,
like
okay,
just
and
before
I
ask
jay,
to
come
up
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
those
housing
programs,
I
do
want
to
clarify
just
a
couple
of
things
that
that
came
up
frequently
in
public
comment.
I
The
first
is
clarification
on
the
reference
to
gift
clause,
so
there
was
a
copy
and
paste
from
the
previous
staff
report
that
very
at
a
very
high
level
outlined
concerns.
It
actually
pros
and
cons
to
providing
cash
payments,
and
there
were
certainly
advantages
to
that
approach
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
What
was
meant
to
be
conveyed,
and
what
should
be
clarified,
is
that
at
the
time
we
said
that
direct
payments
might
be
vulnerable
or
had
the
potential
to
be
vulnerable
to
the
gift
clause.
I
Secondly,
we
did
hear
that
the
the
the
chosen
language,
the
word
relocatee
and-
and
we
did
discuss
at
some
length
exactly
what
kind
of
terminology
to
use
you
know.
Evicted,
dysplasia
and
relocate
are
probably
more
legal
terms.
I
can
understand
how
they
sound
bureaucratic
and
minimize
for
people
that
were
survivors
and
descendants
of
section
14,
the
pain
and
the
emotional
context
of
that
historical
event.
So
it
was
not
our
intent
to
minimize
those
feelings.
I
I
certainly
see
that
now
and
apologize
on
behalf
of
staff
that
wrote
that
report
that
that
that
it
came
across
that
way.
That
was
more
of
a
legal
term
that
it
wasn't
intended
to
try
to
minimize
the
experience
of
survivors
and
descendants
of
section
14..
So
with
that
mayor,
if
you're
ready
we're
happy
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
some
of
the
housing
programs
that
you
may
consider.
T
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
mayor,
pro
tem
and
council
members.
As
a
city
manager
explained,
were
we
took
a
particular
focus
on
the
request
for
housing,
and
specifically
the
proposal
from
the
survivors
stated
institute
a
city-funded
program
providing
new
housing,
condos
and
apartments,
as
well
as
improvements
to
existing
housing
over
the
next
25
years
to
an
income-based
segment
of
the
community,
giving
priority
to
victims
of
section
14
destruction,
but
also
to
be
made
available
to
the
community
at
large.
T
So
there's
a
lot
there.
Implementing
this
implementing
the
whole
proposal
would
be
a
multi-faceted
type
of
program
that
can
take
many
forms.
New
housing
can
include
home
ownership
programs,
new
condominium
developments,
new
apartment
developments,
improvements
to
existing
homes
can
also
be
implemented
in
different
ways,
so
focusing
on
the
improvements
to
existing
homes.
T
We
know
there
are
already
quite
a
few
programs
that
exist
and
some
of
these
are
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
In
fact,
it
was
the
former
palm
springs
redevelopment
agency
that
used
to
operate
a
residential
rehabilitation
program,
and
this
program
provided
five
to
ten
thousand
dollar
grants
for
housing
rehabilitation.
T
The
recipients
had
to
be
a
lower,
very
low
income
residents.
The
ten
thousand
dollar
grant
required
twenty
percent
to
be
used
on
the
exterior
improvement.
So
there's
a
neighborhood
beautification
element
to
that.
The
grant
also
included
resale
restrictions
if
the
property
owner
wanted
to
sell
the
property
within
five
years,
and
so,
if
they
wanted
to
do
that,
they
would
have
to
repay
that
grant
that
they
had
received
for
the
property
improvements.
T
There
were
also
five
and
ten
year:
property
maintenance,
covenants
that
were
also
required
when
the
homeowner
had
to
where
the
homeowner
would
be
required
to
keep
the
property
clean
and
maintained
for
five
or
ten
years
I
say
five
or
ten
years,
because
in
addition
to
the
five-year
grant,
there's
also
a
ten-year
ten
thousand
dollar
grant.
That
was
a
part
of
it.
I
And
and
jay
just
to
clarify,
this
was
an
existing
program
that
the
city
administered,
sometimes
with
support
of
cdbg
funding
and
some
other
programs
that
had
some
fairly
regimented
requirements.
So
that's
an
example,
but
if
council
were
interested
in
pursuing
a
similar
program,
some
of
the
thresholds,
some
of
the
conditions,
could
all
be
tailored
as
you
see
fit.
So
those
aren't
meant
to
express
restrictions
or
recommendations
on
a
program
like
that,
just
to
highlight
for
you
the
existing
program
that
we
had
and
how
it
operated,
but
you'd
have
some
latitude
to
arrange
those
terms
differently.
T
T
So
we
also
know
the
city
of
corona
provides
a
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
forgivable
loan
at
zero
percent.
City
of
brea
provides
a
five
thousand
dollar
loan,
zero
percent
interest
for
thirty
years,
but
it
must
be
paid
back
if
the
house
is
sold
or
refinanced
city
of
monterey
park.
Has
a
thousand
dollar
deferred
loan
made
available
to
low
income
and
very
low
income
residents
at
three
percent
interest,
but
that
loan
must
also
be
paid
back.
It's
not
a
forgivable
type
of
loan.
T
Those,
however,
capped
at
1
500,
so
not
quite
as
robust
as
some
of
the
other
programs.
I
just
mentioned
moving
on
to
programs
that
assist
individuals
with
home
ownership,
as
you
can
imagine,
there's
a
variety
of
programs
that
offer
this
and
they
can
be
in
the
form
of
silent
second
loans
or
grants
that
help
making
down
payments
on
a
home.
T
There
can
be
assistance
with
monthly
mortgage
payments
if
you're
a
homeowner
and
you've
purchased
with
an
fha
loan
at
less
than
20
down.
You
have
to
pay
a
private
mortgage
insurance,
so
this
may
be
another
area
where
the
city
could
assist
or
a
benefit
to
the
down
payment
is
that
you
would
not
have
that
private
mortgage
insurance.
T
So
those
favorable
terms
again
could
be
longer
term,
such
as
40
years,
which
would
lower
the
monthly
payment.
It
could
be
low
or
zero
interest
rates
and
well
longer
amortization
times.
That
is
what
I've
already
alluded
to,
and
there
are
self-help
programs
where
individuals
wishing
to
own
a
home
could
participate
in
the
construction
of
that
home
and
own
that
home
for
free.
T
Some
examples
of
these
types
of
programs
are
actually
a
reparations
program
from
evanston
illinois,
which
provides
25
000
grants
to
those
individuals
who
are
not
allowed
to
purchase
homes
in
evaston.
They
were
redlined
and
these
grants
can
be
used
to
purchase
a
home
or
make
improvements
or
pay
your
mortgage
they're
kind
of
broad,
but
all
in
that
home
ownership,
specter
spectrum
of
assistance
bring
up
the
palm
springs
redevelopment
agency
again
home
ownership,
loans
were
provided
between
six
thousand
and
fifty
three
thousand
dollars
and
those
were
written
down
over
a
25-year
time
frame.
I
So
so
again,
council,
I
would
just
emphasize
that
these
are
citing
typical
examples
of
standard
housing
assistance
policies.
That's
not
to
say
that
you
would
follow
those
models.
It's
just
to
give
an
idea
of
the
spectrum.
You
could
have
significant
participation
in
purchasing
housing
or,
in
the
case
of
these
they're,
sometimes
called
down
payment
assistance,
but
really
some
of
them
function
like
a
silent
second
mortgage,
where
you
might
subsidize
a
substantial
portion
of
the
house
which
could
be
forgivable
immediately.
It
could
be
forgivable
over
time.
T
So
an
another
factor
is
it's
been
brought
up.
A
few
times
is
using
city-owned
properties
to
create
housing
opportunities.
The
city
does
own
properties
in
various
parts
of
the
city,
three
single-family
homes
in
the
desert,
highlands
area,
which
could
be
approached
any
number
of
ways.
It
could
be
part
of
a
self-help
program.
It
could
be
a
part
of
a
program
where
the
city
pursues
development
on
those
lots
and
makes
them
available
to
the
community
members.
T
T
The
city
doesn't
own
and
operate
property,
but
just
as
an
example,
the
city
of
santa
monica
is
providing
does
have
properties
that
it
controls
through
agreements
with
private
developers
and
for
individuals
displaced
as
a
part
of
the
I-10.
Freeway
extension
are
being
invited
to
be
first
in
line
for
some
of
those
new
housing
units
in
santa
monica.
I
We
present
those
to
you
tonight
not
to
try
to
demonstrate
that
we
don't
support
something
like
financial
compensation
or
any
of
the
other
components
that
have
been
suggested
this
evening,
but
only
because
we
were
directed
by
council
to
return
with
those
some
of
the
other
components
that
have
been
proposed
by
survivors
and
of
section
14
we
received
last
thursday.
We
haven't
had
time
to
look
at
those.
I
The
absence
of
more
elaborate
consideration
of
those
things
is:
please
nobody
interpret
that
as
a
lack
of
support
or
willingness
to
discuss
those
things.
Rather,
what
was
directed
to
us
before
we
had
completed
that
outreach
was
to
bring
back
some
examples
of
housing
programs.
So
that's
the
only
reason
why
the
focus
of
the
staff
report
is
there
and
not
on
other
things,
so
far,
we're
certainly
eager
to
get
direction
from
council
on
other
things.
You
would
like
us
to
look
at
and
discuss.
B
B
So
you
talked
about
some
of
the
programs
where
other
cities
have
provided
assistance
for
folks
who
are
trying
to
get
into
housing
silent
seconds
and
things
of
that
nature.
How
long
have
those
programs
been
in
place?
Do
you
have
any
examples
of
cities
where
those
that
assistance
to
help
people
buy
homes
has
been
particularly
successful?.
I
In
some
cases,
they
were
subsidizing
as
much
as
a
third
or
40
percent
of
housing
costs,
and
that
was
a
fairly
successful
program
that
one
was
oriented
to
be
a
revolving
loan
fund,
but
funds
were
only
repaid
at
the
time
when
a
house
was
sold
but
borrowing
another
concept,
that's
often
used
in
some
of
the
sweat
equity
programs,
where
those
loans
are
forgiven,
basically
means
that
that
that
subsidy
is
maintained
forever
right.
So
so
you
would
have
the
luxury
to
implement
something
like
that
and
those
can
be
fairly
successful.
I
The
challenge
in
building
housing
stock
is
is
generally
the
cost
and
the
long
lead
time
to
actually
build
things.
One
of
the
reasons
that
some
of
the
financial
assistance
programs
are
so
attractive
is
because
it
essentially
takes
issuing
a
check
right.
You
don't
have
to
wait
to
develop.
You
don't
need
available
land,
etcetera,
etcetera
it.
It
doesn't
tend
to
leverage
some
of
the
other
ways
that
housing
is
subsidized,
so
in
particular
some
of
the
federal
tax
credits
and
things
like
that.
I
B
I
Yeah
and
so
that's
just
to
clarify-
that's
to
note
properties
that
are
currently
held
by
the
city,
but
another
very
common
way
that
general
housing
programs
approach
subsidizing
is,
is
land
banking
or
accumulating
and
buying
parcels.
So
that's
certainly
something
that
council
could
direct
us
to
look
into
or
authorize
as
part
of
the
program
would
be
to
about
to
buy
additional
either
vacant
parcels
that
are
well
suited
for
development
or
even
developed
parcels.
B
Certainly,
one
program
that
council
member
holstedge-
and
I
got
to
see
oh
so
many
five
years
ago,
was
some
of
the
self-help
poems
that
were
being
developed
in
desert
hot
springs,
and
I
I
know
my
reaction
five
years
ago
was.
This
is
something
we
should
be
doing
so
without
jumping
too
far
into
comments.
It's
still
something
we
should
be
doing
and.
I
And
if
I
might,
I
think,
some
of
the
most
successful
programs,
especially
given
how
much
of
a
gap
we
have
in
affordability,
are
programs
that
layer
a
lot
of
those
things.
So
I've
also
been
part
of
programs
where
the
city
in
partnership
with
non-profit,
bought
the
lots
and
then
other
non-profit
developers,
with
the
assistance
of
sweat
equity,
came
in
to
build
the
homes
and
made
them
very
affordable.
But
but
it
took
that
layering,
sometimes
because
the
gap
is
pretty
substantial,
as,
as
we
know,
okay,.
G
G
And
this
is
my
home
and
I
love
it
so
much,
and
I
could
see
and
hear
the
love
that
you
all
have
for
this
city.
Whether
or
not
you've
stayed
here
or
whether
or
not
you've
left
and
come
back
or
you've
decided
to
stay
away.
But
that
love
is
still
here,
because
this
is
where
you
grew
up,
and
this
is
where
you
came
for
a
better
life.
G
That
is
only
fair,
it's
only
right
and
then
the
support
of
new
housing,
business,
support,
educational
grants,
support
for
local
nonprofits,
making
sure
that
people
know
about
what
happened.
These
are
all
things
that
are
important
to
the
community,
and
that
makes
sense
for
us
to
do
we.
We
know
we
need
these
things.
I
D
N
Pearl
d
versus
chairperson,
section
14
survivors:
we
are
the
majority
who
experience
destruction.
The
staff
report
and
research
missed
the
mark
massively,
it
did
not
reach
deep
nor
wide
enough
to
include
those
harmed
earlier.
Talks
did
not
include
direct
victims
input.
How
could
you
do
a
study?
How
could
a
study
be
made
while
leaving
out
the
very
people
harmed
early
talks
were
majority
descendants
who
were
also
impacted?
N
You
neglected
to
listen
to
the
victims.
Your
research
was
incomplete.
I
was
born
in
palm
springs.
My
father,
who
helped
build
palm
springs,
is
buried
in
that
soil.
My
mother,
buried
in
this
soil.
I
grew
up
playing
with
a
young
boy
next
door,
who
became
my
husband
of
50
years.
Two
years
ago,
I
buried
the
love
of
my
life
in
this
very
soil
and
secured
my
final
resting
place
right
beside
him
right.
We're
not
relocating.
N
Let's
negotiate
and
talk
to
the
people.
Listen
to
the
people.
Please
do
not
add
insult
to
injury.
Compensation
should
match
the
apology
and
words
spoken
by
you
mayor
expressing
such
an
atrocity.
This
community
stands
united
and
we
concluded
what
we
want.
There
is
no
recompense
or
justification
if
the
people
who
are
impacted
directly
are
not
properly
compensated,
and
if
you
don't
start
there,
you
might
want
to
reconsider
your
apology,
also
community
measures,
everything
that
they
asked
for
the
scoring
done
will
never
vanish.
N
E
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
someone
said
come
on
christy,
so
I
I
was
going
to
wait
to
go
last.
I
agree
with
what
mayor
pro
tem
garner
said.
I
appreciate
the
people
who
are
here
today.
I
apologize
on
behalf
of
the
city
for
using
the
term
relocatees,
which
I
agree
with,
is,
is
harmful
and
doesn't
properly
acknowledge
the
harm
that
was
done
by
the
city
when
people
were
forcibly
removed
from
homes
or
homes
were
burned,
while
people
are
living
in
them.
So
thank
you
to
the
city
manager
for
apologizing
for
that
error.
E
I
agree,
I
appreciate
the
survivors
for
participating
in
this.
It's
really
powerful
to
hear
people
who've
been
so
harmed
by
the
city
of
palm
springs
both
long
ago
and
not
long
ago,
and
currently
to
be
participating
in
this
forum.
You
know
and-
and
I
think
I've
said
through
some
of
these
conversations-
you
know
how
many
times
do
we
have
to
make
people
display
their
pain
to
believe
them,
and
I
think
that's
our
job
to
to
acknowledge
and
recognize
on
our
own
as
a
city.
E
E
What
that
would
look
like
on
the
city's
behalf
and
what
the
cost
would
be
right.
That's
sort
of
the
elephant
in
the
room
here
is,
is
the
amount
and
and
what
the
compensation
would
adequately
look
like
to
atone
and
to
address
the
wrongs
that
have
been
perpetrated
by
the
city
of
palm
springs
or
with
the
coordination
of
the
city
of
palm
springs.
So
I
appreciate
the
survivors.
E
S
S
I
No,
not
that
I
know
of
there
may
have
been
some
historic
efforts,
but
not
associated
with
any
recent
events.
Have
we
gone
back
and
looked
at
what
records
we
have
in
our
conversations
with
members
representing
the
the
section
14
group,
they
have
indicated
that
they've
already
begun
some
collection
of
records
and
could
likely
perform
more.
I
know
the
historical
society
may
be
a
place
to
get
some
of
those,
but
we
have
not
started
collecting
those
from
any
city
archives.
Yet,
okay,
well.
S
Just
one
one
place
we
might
want
to
look
at
is
within
our
own
building
planning
department
is,
we
do
have
housing
records
going
back
at
least
into
the
40s.
I
know
there
was
a
gap
from
a
fire
in
the
middle
there,
but
just
something
I
wanted
to
raise.
You
know
I,
I
think
the
question,
at
least
for
me,
is
what
option,
what
options
and
the
staff
thought
about
options
for
process
for
next
steps.
S
I
know
this
was
received
right
before
the
staff
report
sort
of
the
recommendation
from
the
survivors
group
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
really
good
suggestions
in
there,
but
I
think
that
sort
of
what
we'll
need
is
for
those
further
discussions
and
figuring
out
all
the
issues
of
direct
payments
who
they
go
to
costs
of
programs,
etc.
So
we
can
have
a
more
thoughtful
and
thorough
discussion
and
decision-making,
but
I
do
think
direct
payments
for
the
kind
of
direct
harms
people
suffered
is
appropriate.
S
Looking
at
the
various
housing
programs,
one
that
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
was
in
evanston,
although
it's
not
funded
at
the
full
level
for
their
first
phase
yet,
but
it
offered
options
right
because
some
people
already
own
a
home.
So
you
know
I
think
it
was
25
000
grants,
I'm
just
using
that
as
one
example,
but
it
gave
flexibility
whether
it's
for
down
payment,
helping
pay
mortgage
over
years,
home
repairs
and
I
think,
having
flexibility,
because
people
are
in
very
different
situations.
It's
just
an
important
thing
for
us
to
be
looking
at.
S
H
I
appreciate
everyone
that
called
in
I
appreciate
everyone
in
the
audience
today.
It
was
great
to
hear
your
stories
not
great,
but
it
was
very
sad
and
heartening
to
hear
your
stories
it.
I
cannot
imagine
getting
a
30-day
notice
taking
some
time
to
do
it
and
having
your
house
burned.
I
think
that
is
absolutely
an
atrocity
and
a
horrible
thing.
I
think
for
me,
the
next
step
is:
how
do
we
heal?
H
I
think
what
what
is
real
for
us,
what
will
heal
for
us,
and
so
my
recommendation,
I
think,
is
to
have
our
staff
take
a
little
more
time
and
look
at
a
program
that
has
a
benefits
and
outcomes
and
what
we
can
really
do
is
work
with
the
neighborhood
groups,
talk
to
them
and
find
out
what
that
really
looks
like
what
is
a
benefit.
What
heals
and
what
type
of
outcomes
would
we
want?
H
H
H
So
that's
one
thing
that
I
suggest
another
thing
that
has
not
been
brought
up
by
several
of
the
comments
tonight
is.
I
absolutely
think
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of.
I
think
one
of
the
callers
talked
about
alcohol
and
drug
addiction.
That
happened
because
of
the
trauma
that
had
existed
from
being
moved.
H
We
want
to
break
that
cycle
that
we
have
a
cycle
of
crime.
We
want
to
break
that
cycle.
We
want
to
break
people
feeling
angry.
We
wanted
people
to
feel
a
part
of
it.
I
actually
think
particularly
in
desert
highlands,
which
I
have
to
admit.
I
looked
to
buy
a
house
and
through
redlining
could
not
buy
that
house
and
I
was
going
to
file
a
lawsuit
against
the
bank
and
I
did
not-
and
I'm
sorry
I
did
not
to
do
that
when
I
went
to
buy
that
house
and
bonaire.
H
I
believe
it
was
when
I
looked
at
the
house
several
years
ago,
but
that
neighborhood,
you
know
in
physical
improvements
to
the
streetscape
in
that
neighborhood
could
make
a
huge
difference.
I
think
I've
talked
briefly
with
the
police
chief
and
just
changing
the
geometrics
of
some
of
those
streets
might
make
run
into
that
neighborhood,
causing
problems
and
running
out
of
that
neighborhood
quickly
less
enticing,
and
we
can
do
that
through
design,
and
I
give
you
an
example
at
a
house
that
I
owned
with
my
husband.
H
H
H
That
was
only
two
blocks,
but
the
outcome,
the
outcome
for
that
from
that
investment
and
which
is
what
I'm
looking
for
outcomes
and
benefits,
was
tremendous
and
completely
changed
it
from
a
street
of
crime
to
a
street
that
turned
into
a
neighborhood
where
people
went
out
and
talked
to
one
another
and
they
weren't
hiding
behind
their
walls.
So
my
direction
would
be
something
more
along
the
lines
of
looking
at
benefits
and
outcomes.
H
B
B
It
has
been
noted
over
and
over
again
to
me
by
a
number
of
individuals
that
the
land
was
the
land
of
the
agua
caliente
tribe,
but
the
homes
that
were
built
were
not
those
were
homes
that
had
been
built
by
families
and
people.
We
talked
today
about
self-help
homes,
those
were
self-help
homes
over
and
over
again.
B
B
I
also
believe
that
we
have
an
obligation
at
this
point
to
make
efforts
to
improve
housing
conditions
and
to
make
housing
much
better
in
some
instances.
That
may
be
to
try
to
provide
opportunities
for
individuals
to
fix
up
and
rehabilitate
the
homes
they
already
own
and
in
other
instances
it
will
be
to
make
land
available
where
homes
can
be
built
and
to
partner
with
other
community
organizations
to
help
more
homes
to
be
built.
B
B
What
I
think
we're
being
asked
to
do
here
tonight
is
to
make
an
investment
in
a
community
and
that's
something
that
we,
I
hope-
and
I
believe
the
council
that's
sitting
here.
10
years
from
now,
which
won't
include
me,
is
going
to
be
thankful
for
the
steps
that
we
took
to
try
to
rehabilitate
and
improve
a
community
working
in
partnership
with
that
community.
B
So.
I
would
like
to
see
us
step
back.
Look
at
the
plan.
That's
been
laid
out
by
the
community
group,
have
further
conversations
and
start
to
flesh
out
what
would
a
program?
Actually,
look
like
that
would
include
both
direct
compensation
and
one
that
would
include
most
particularly
housing
programs
to
rehabilitate
a
community
and
to
provide
opportunities
to
individuals
who've
not
been
able
to
get
into
a
home
able
to
get
into
a
home.
Thank
you.
I
It's
fairly
high
level,
but
I
think
from
here
what
we
would
do
to
take
direction
would
be
to
continue
to
engage
with
the
survivors
of
section
14
group
and
try
to
put
a
little
more
substance
to
the
plan.
That's
been
outlined
likely,
starting
with
a
conversation
about
compensation
and
bring
that
information
back
to
you
at
a
point
where
we
feel
like
we've
kind
of
got
some
more
to
consider.
You
know,
by
no
means
do
I
want
to
drag
this
out
at
all.
Just
I
I
do
want
to
set
reasonable
expectations
for
council
and
the
community.
I
H
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
in
in
the
direction
that
at
least
I
would
like
to
give-
and
it's
a
repeat
that
I
really
want
to
see
benefits
and
outcomes
in
that
analysis.
So
we've
heard
some
things
about
housing.
We've
heard
some
opposition
to
housing.
I
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
get
the
best
bang
for
the
buck,
for
something
like
that.
Let's
analyze
that
direct
compensation
same
thing-
I
don't
know
so,
let's
analyze
that
I
just
I
don't
want
to
jump
to
conclusions
about
what
the
best
approach
is.
H
I
G
I
think
these
are
kind
of
conversations
that
we
have
a
lot
right
now,
for
instance,
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
forgiving
student
loans
and
people
say.
Well,
we
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen,
what
would
those
people?
What
would
those
students
use
that
money
for
anyone
who
has
student
loans
knows
what
they
would
do
with
the
money
that
they
have.
G
You
know
I'd
buy
a
new
car,
for
instance
right
we
all
know,
so
I
think
that
for
me
I
don't
need
analysis
on
terms
of
direct
compensation,
because
I
trust
that
all
of
you
know
what
you
would
do
with
that
money
and
that
what
you
do
with
that
money
is
what's
best
for
you,
and
so
I
don't
to
me.
I
don't
need
that
analysis
right.
So
for
me,
I
don't
need
analysis
on
direct
compensation.
I
need
to
know
what
we
how
much
we
want
to
give.
G
You
know
how
much
we're
going
to
give,
but
I
don't
need
the
analysis,
because
I
trust
the
people
to
do
what's
best
with
the
money
that
they're
given
exactly
at
their
discretion.
But
in
terms
of
the
other
types
of
programming
and
support
for
nonprofits.
I
think
analysis
is
helpful
to
make
sure
that
we're
implementing
the
best
types
of
programs
and
that
we're
doing
best
practices,
since
we
do
know
that
there
are
existing
things
in
the
in
terms
of
that.
H
By
analysis,
maybe
I
misled.
I
wasn't
talking
about
the
the
question
I
think
it
is.
Is
you
know
what
are
the
legal
ramifications
of
all
of
that?
Some
sort
of
analysis
on
that,
and
I-
and
I
think
you
know,
and
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
it
if
that's
the
way
that
we're
going
to
go
that
we're
doing
it
properly.
H
You
know,
there's
a
probably
a
variety
of
things
we
need
to
know
about
in
doing
that
process,
and
you
know
the
question
of
how
much
is
also
another
question:
what
is
100
check
going
to?
Do
it?
Probably
not
right?
So
what's
that
going
to
be?
If,
if
that
happens,
I'm
not
a
real
fan
of
that.
I
think
I've
laid
out
some
other
things,
but
it's
it's
worth
exploring.
E
I
know
I
agree
with
the
comments
that
have
been
made,
that
the
community's
been
asking
for
a
lot
of
improvements
for
a
long
time
and
some
of
those
have
been
ignored
or
delayed,
and
so
having
that
opportunity
to
bring
those
forward
and
take
action
is
a
great
opportunity
that
I'd
like
to
act
on
so
yeah.
I
would
just
maybe
broaden
the
direction
so
that
we're
not
just
working
with
the
survivors
group,
but
knowing
that
really.
This
is
a
result.
E
The
the
apology
for
section
14,
which
is
city
plate
with
the
forced
evictions
and
forced
relocation,
is
one
thing,
but
also
sort
of
the
impact
on
redlining
and
the
city.
Zoning
and
other
policies
that
really
created
the
loss
of
generational
wealth,
as
as
members
of
the
public
have
called
in
to
say,
and
so
I
think,
yeah
just
to
broaden
the
direction
of
the
community
groups
that
we're
working
with
so
that
we
can
get
all
of
that
input
and
then
bring
forward
a
comprehensive
plan.
That's
designed
by
and
for
the
people
most
affected.
B
B
B
B
B
Thank
you.
It
is
now
just
short
of
9
00
pm.
I
would
like
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
make
phone
calls
for
those
who
are
waiting
on
to
make
non-agenda
public
comments,
and
I
believe
we
have
three
individuals
that
want
to
make
non-agenda
public
comments.
I
would
also
like
to
check
with
my
colleagues
as
to
whether
or
not
we
do
in
fact
want
to
defer
item
3b
on
boards
and
commissions
to
a
future
meeting
date.
B
J
Nice
to
have
such
an
intimate
ability
to
speak
to
everybody
here
good
evening,
mayor
mayor,
pratam
city,
council
staff.
Thank
you.
I
know
we're
going
to
have
a
study
session
on
monday
night
on
the
budget,
but
looking
for
my
clock,
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
two
things
quickly.
One
is
I
saw
on
the
recommendations
for
general
funds,
a
two
million
dollar
allocation
to
the
plaza
theater,
I'm
really
concerned
about
that.
J
I
really
would
ask
each
of
you
to
look
at
the
ethics
of
that,
even
if
that
person
were
to
reveal
him
or
herself
at
this
point
in
time.
I
think
the
process
has
already
been
questionable
if
somebody
like
that
can
put
their
private
money
forward
contingent
on
the
city
putting
money
in
and
then
it
shows
up
in
the
budget.
So
that
concerns
me.
J
Second,
I'm
not
a
budget
analyst,
so
I
don't
want
to
panic
yet
about
whether
the
investment
in
parks
and
rec
facilities
and
investment
in
infrastructure
is
there
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
be
the
collective
bargaining
unit
for
parks
and
rec
facilities.
We
have
not
had
a
full-time
director
this
past
year.
I
know
there's
lots
of
things
on
everybody's
agenda,
but
is
there
enough
investment
in
this
budget
for
playgrounds
for
facilities
for
all
of
those
things
where
there's
not
a
voice,
a
lobby,
people
with
influence
and
money?
I
go
to
that
dumuth
park
pickleball
facility.
J
You
know
I'm
a
pickleball
player
every
day.
Those
are
low:
middle
income
and
rich
people.
It's
a
melange
of
people
there,
every
color
every
age,
and
it's
not
just
us.
There's
young
people
using
those
parks
for
for
picnics
there's
other
things.
I
just
implore
you
to
be
the
collective
bargaining
unit
for
the
people.
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
good
evening.
D
C
Much
I'm
speaking
against
a
reversal
of
mass
mandate
and
public
transportation
as
a
immunocompromised,
uber
and
lyft
driver,
and
I
feel
I
should
have
the
right
to
be
safe.
In
my
own
vehicle,
my
passengers
should
have
to
wear
a
mask
and
closed
corners,
and
so
I
would
like
to
have
sound
spring
city
council
endorse
their
continued
requirement
of
mass
in
right
here.
Vehicles,
because
both
left
and
uber
have
said
it's
now
optional
and
they're,
putting
my
health
at
risk.
C
They
do
say
it's
our
own
business,
it's
our
cars,
so
each
field
should
make
the
rules,
but
you
know
that's
how
they
treat
people
little
people.
So
if
the
city
would
come
down
be
on
our
behalf,
that
will
affect
most
of
the
coachella
valley,
and
so
it
puts
drivers
in
a
safe
space.
Those
of
us
who
have
health
issues
that
would
be
increasing.
We
have
to
drive
because
we
can't
hold
down
full-time
jobs
because
of
our
health
issues.
C
D
K
Yes,
thank
you
good
evening
to
the
city
council,
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
palm
springs.
It
actually
saddens
me
to
have
to
become
vocal
on
this
issue.
Ties
in
with
the
topic
at
hand
and
I
being
harmed
by
people
pumped
palm
springs
for
shy
of
two
years
me
and
my
sister.
We
are
straight
female.
We've
been
treated
and
discriminated
against,
not
only
where
we
live,
but
at
restaurants
and
all
the
way
from
smoketree,
north
palm
canyon
and
chocolate
we've
been
treated
differently
than
the
gay
community,
I'm
a
retired
teacher
33
years.
K
I
always
taught
my
students
to
treat
everybody
with
dignity
and
respect.
It's
also
discriminatory
to
set
aside
funds
for
the
transgender
community.
I
have
transgender
friends.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
it,
but
there
are
other
people
that
I
believe
believe
in
me
are
being
discriminated
against.
We
were
at
a
restaurant
on
north
palm
canyon.
A
gentleman
wanted
the
chair
at
the
bar,
where
my
sister
was
sitting
for
his
partner
and
pulled
the
chair
out
from
right
from
under
her.
She
fell
down
and
hurt
her
hip,
so
I
mean
there's
other
examples.
K
Get
business
licenses
maybe
take
a
course
or
a
a
workshop
on
treating
everybody
with
dignity
and
respect,
and
I
know
that's
hard
to
control,
but
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
my
sentiments
on
this
issue.
I
think
it's
very
important
that
everybody
in
palm
springs
be
treated
with
dignity
and
respect,
and
I
I
really
appreciate
that
the
other
issue
very
quickly.
We
have
a
huge
inundation
of
homeless
on
east
palm
canyon
from
farrell
to
sunrise.
K
I
think
it's
important
that
everybody
be
treated
with
dignity
and
respect,
and
it
does
tie
in
with
the
individual
section
14,
unfortunately,
how
they
were
treated
because
of
their
color,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
for
letting
me
be
vocal
on
this
issue
and
I
hope
you'll
listen
with
open
ears
and
open
heart
to
my
comments.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
M
M
We
were
just
informed
yesterday
after
17
years
in
business
on
july,
1st,
our
lease
is
up
and
our
landlord
wayne
gottley
will
not
renew
it.
We
have
been
an
asset
to
the
community
and
have
taught
and
guided
students
whose
parents
have
worked
at
city
hall,
such
as
mayor,
steve,
pugney's,
children,
city
hall,
employees,
including
matt,
mclean,
ps,
fire
department,
doctors
and
various
medical
staff
at
desert,
regional,
also,
a
parent
of
the
palm
springs
chamber
of
commerce,
to
name
a
few.
M
I've
taught
children
with
special
needs
of
which
other
schools
would
not
take,
and
I
was
open
throughout
the
entire
pandemic
to
serve
the
community.
The
reason
my
landlord
is
not
renewing
my
lease
he's
going
to
lease
the
property
to
a
cannabis
dispensary.
He
claims
he
can
receive
seven
thousand
dollars
a
month.
He
wants
to
replace
an
educational
facility
for
young
children
with
a
dispensary.
M
D
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
The
city
is
built
very
spread
out
because
engineers
cater
to
the
auto
industry,
and
we
expect
everybody
to
have
a
car
to
have
a
good
life
here.
That
is
what
we
have
decided
as
a
city.
Just
imagine.
If
every
single
person
had
a
car,
our
students
could
not
handle
it.
In
fact,
it's
already
headed
that
direction
with
all
these
pedestrian
deaths
and
traffic.
It
shows
that
our
city
has
prioritized
vehicle
owners.
Q
This
must
change.
If
you
want
to
drive
a
car,
that's
fine,
but
at
least
let's
give
people
the
option
not
to
regardless
of
ridership.
The
ridership
will
go
up
until
it's
actually
good.
Please
invest
in
our
public
transportation.
This
is
far
more
important
than
any
homeless
issues.
The
lack
of
good
public
transit
is
a
form
of
oppression
on
the
poor,
and
the
biden
administration
already
promised
us
a
20-minute,
walk
or
less
to
the
nearest
bus.
Stop
with
this
new
signed
infrastructure
bill.
Now,
I'm
just
waiting
for
that
to
be
incorporated
here.
B
A
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
council,
the
matter
before
you
is
an
appeal
of
the
planning
commission's
decision
for
a
proposed
conditional
use,
permit
application
to
establish
a
nightclub
cocktail.
Lounge
at
383,
south
palm
canyon
drive
facility
or
the
the
property
is
currently
developed
with
a
9504
square
foot
building
and
yeah,
and
the
applicant
would
occupy
the
entire
space.
A
A
A
You
probably
recognize
the
building
that
you
see
here
in
the
image.
It
is
a
two-story
building
with
the
third
floor
mezzanine,
and
this
is
the
proposed
site
plan
or
the
current
site
plan
of
the
property.
It
shows
the
first
floor
occupying
the
center
of
the
of
the
property
with
the
parking
spaces
around
it.
There's
a
driveway
on
the
north
side,
where
patrons
enter
the
property
and
exit
on
the
south
side.
A
A
So
other
considerations
for
this
project
are
parking
staff.
When
we
evaluated
the
project
we
evaluated
the
proposed
parking
or
the
parking
requirements,
and
the
zoning
code
relative
to
the
downtown
parking
combining
zone
which
requires
any
assembly
use,
provide
one
parking
space
for
each
250
square
feet
of
floor
area
where
assembly
occurs.
A
In
this
case,
it
is
roughly
seven
just
over
seven
thousand
square
feet
where
assembly
areas
occur
and
that
would
require
a
total
of
28
spaces.
The
site
has
34
spaces
currently
in
terms
of
noise,
the
afghan
did
provide
a
noise
study
to
determine
if
the
proposed
use
would
have
noise
impacts
on
the
surrounding
area.
The
city
had
its
own
consultant.
A
So
there
have
been
several
measures
that
would
be
required
if
the
sup
were
approved
and
then,
lastly,
safety
staff
worked
with
the
police
department
and
the
applicant
would
be
required
to
comply
with
a
security
plan
which
the
police
department
has
reviewed
and
approved,
and
it
has
several
requirements
relative
to
training
staff
and
security
guards
having
video
surveillance
available,
conducting
regular
patrols
of
parking
areas
and
maintaining
adequate
lighting.
Among
other
things,.
A
So
the
application
that
was
considered
it
was
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
conditional
use
permit
chapter
or
section
94.02
of
the
zoning
code.
There
are
five
findings
that
must
be
made
with.
As
you
see
here
on
the
screen,
the
use
applied
for
the
location
is
allowed
by
the
zoning
code,
it's
necessary
or
desirable,
in
harmony
with
the
general
plan
and
not
detrimental
to
existing
and
proposed
uses.
A
So
when
the
planning
commission
evaluated
the
application,
they
voted
to
deny
the
cup
application
by
a
vote
of
seven
to
zero,
and
the
commission
was
unable
to
make
funding
for
cri
criterion
number
two
relative
to
noise,
late
night
operating
hours
and
concerns
with
impacts
in
the
parking
lot
of
the
use
during
the
late
evening.
Hours
that
being
the
use
would
be
detrimental
to
the
apartments
behind
the
property
and
the
apartments.
On
the
second
floor
of
the
property
to
the
north,
so
that
would
include
staff's
presentation.
We
have
presented
for
your
consideration
the
commission's
two
resolutions.
A
You
could
adopt
the
commission's
decision
and
deny
the
cup
or,
if
you
chose
to
approve
the
project,
we
have
provided
a
condition
or
a
resolution
for
your
consideration,
as
well
as
the
conditions
of
approval
that
the
planning
commission
had
to
ensure
the
project
would
be
operated
in
a
manner
that
would
not
impact
the
adjacent
properties.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
to
you.
Madam
mayor,
thank.
H
A
H
So
was
the
objection
from
the
planning
commission
based
upon
noise
to
those
units
or
noise.
That
would
be
because
you
know
across
the
street
where
the
rite
aid
is
that's
obviously
closed
at
the
middle
of
the
night,
or
was
it
noise
to
the
west
of
the
property
past?
What's
the
road?
That's
behind!
I'm
sorry,
it's
alardo!
Are
you
right?
So
what
was
the
exact
issue
with
noise
that
they
denied
the
application.
A
So
this
is
two
items
really.
The
concern
was
relative
to
the
noise
from
the
use,
the
the
speakers
on
the
interior,
impacting
the
residential
on
you
know
to
the
north
and
west,
and
then
the
secondary
issue
was
relative
to
operations
of
you
know
things
that
happened
at
night
once
the
business
closes
patrons
being
in
the
parking
lot
potential
for
fights
and
loud
arguments,
or
things
like
that.
A
H
The
just
the
thank
you
just
so
I'm
really
understanding
the,
but
we
have
a
mitigation
plan
that
does
not
mitigate
the
disturbances
that
happen
in
a
parking
lot
or
the
interaction
of
slamming
doors
starting
cars.
But
it
seems
like
the
noise
that
would
come
from
the
building
can
be
mitigated.
Is
that
correct
correct?
So
I'm
still
did
the
neighbors
to
the
north,
or
these
apartments
is
actually
mixed
use.
I
assume
it's
red.
You
know
it's
retail.
H
A
A
H
I
read
a
letter
from
their
the
attorney,
but
I
just
want
to
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is.
If
it's
real
or
not,
you
know
if
those
noise
impacts
are
real,
we
they
would
be
real
at
2
am
when
people
start
cars
and
why
not?
But
I
thought
that
they,
you
said
that
the
our
police
department
came
up
with
a
security
plan
to
try
and
mitigate
that,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
real
or
unreal
those
noisy
impacts
are
and
who
and
who
they
would
impact.
H
You
know
I
I
don't
know
if
the
apartments
to
the
north
are
actually
occupied
or
if
they're
storage
or
if
they're
used
as
offices.
You
know
who
knows
what
they're
really
being
used
for.
That's
why
I
was
asking
what
the
public
testimony.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anyone
here
that
lives
there
that
is
testifying
tonight.
So
that's
I'm
just
trying
to
ascertain
from
the
planning
commission
here
and
I'm
sorry.
I
didn't
listen
to
the
hearing.
H
A
E
A
A
E
A
No,
not
we
don't
have
a
buffer
zone
per
se.
It's
you
know,
we
do
have
just
the
the
general
commercial
standard.
That's
a
requirement.
This
is
the
central
business
district.
So
in
the
commercial
zoning
there
is
a
little
bit
higher
threshold
than
what
we
had
typically
see
in
our
residential
districts
under.
E
Okay,
I
don't
have
to
look
back
at
these
lawyer
letters
because
we
got
a
few
which
one
you
know
there's
like
eight
ninety
pages
in
this
100
pages,
not
including
the
public
comments
that
we
received.
Okay,
so
I'll,
look
back
and
and
maybe
bring
up
that
page
number
when
after
the
public
hearing
for
you,
but
I
think
that
one
of
the
attorneys
cited,
if
not
a
buffer
zone
sort
of
in
the
general
plan,
some
sort
of
intent
around
buffering
between
residential
and
entertainment
uses.
E
A
A
J
E
Thank
you.
I
found
the
page
number
for
you,
it's
73,
so
you
don't
have
to
answer
right
now.
I'll.
Ask
you
at
the
end
of
the
public
comment,
but
it
says
lack
of
harmony
with
the
objectives
of
the
general
plan,
and
then
it
says
the
general
plan
notes
the
following
two
goals:
objectives:
develop
standards
that
provide
appropriate
transitions
between
commercial,
industrial
and
residential
uses
and
develop
standards
that
ensure
adequate
buffering
between
industrial
and
commercial
uses
and
surrounding
residential
uses.
So
that's
what
either
from
the
city
attorney
or
from
planning
staff.
A
A
B
A
B
A
A
A
B
A
B
H
H
Applicant
were
to
sell
the
property,
the
new
owner
would
inherit
the
cup,
so
we
are
really
in
overturning
the
planning
commission.
We
would
be
approving
this
for
a
nightclub
for
whoever
runs
it
so
there's
real.
No,
so
we
have
to
have
very
strict
conditions
in
here
on
this
operation.
Is
that
correct,
correct,
okay
and
I
guess
the
other
ones
I'll
just
ask
of
the
applicant?
Thank
you.
E
E
The
pretty
pictures
you
put
on
there
about
the
diagram
is
the
word
I'm
looking
for
of
the
parking,
but
can
you
just
explain
especially
for
the
public
listening,
because
we
got
a
lot
of
public
comment
on
this,
the
the
parking
plan
overall,
so
how
many
people
we
actually
expect
would
be
parking
on
site
and
how
much
would
be
overflow
parking
onto
the
streets
and
then
clearly
there's
concerns
about
the
noise
spilling
out
from
that.
So
could
you
just
talk
about
parking?
The
parking
plan
overall.
A
Sure
so
the
site
is
located
in
the
downtown
parking
combining
zone,
so
that
is
kind
of.
Obviously
it's
a
part
of
the
downtown
area
and
expands
from
essentially
ramon
to
alejo,
and
that's
obviously,
where
we
have
a
higher
intensity
of
land
uses
and
generally
can
a
lot
of
times.
We
have
economies
of
scale
and
parking,
so
parking
standards
in
the
downtown
parking
combine
zone
have
less
strict
requirements
than
what
typically
ours
is
found
elsewhere
in
the
city.
A
So
they
do
have
adequate
parking
under
the
city
zoning
code
standards
for
the
downtown
parking
combining
zone.
They.
You
know
that,
and
that
assumes
that
you
might
have
individuals
being
dropped
off
by
you
know
a
lift
or
an
uber.
Potentially
it
assumes
that
you
might
have
spillover
from
the
adjacent
hotels
that
might
have
patrons
that
are
staying
there
and
want
to
do
something
at
an
adjacent
area.
A
E
Thank
you.
So
my
question
is
sort
of
I
saw
what
the
requirement
is,
but
in
thinking
about
the
harmonious
uses,
so
do
we
have
a
sense
of
how
many
in
reality,
you
know
how
many
patrons
in
reality
like
how
many
cars
might
be
generated
or
parking
might
be
generated
from
that
location.
Thinking
through
where
the
parking
is
available.
If
people
will
be
parking,
you
know
on
the
street
or
what
ever
where
wherever
else.
A
A
S
A
A
S
So
if
that's
the
case,
then
I
think
the
mayor's
calculation
is
low
for
how
many
people
would
need
to
be
per
car.
Of
course,
people
will
take
other
methods
of
transportation,
but
so
I
guess
I'll
ask
that
of
the
applicant
just
their
intended
use
of
the
parking
lot
from
what
I
read.
Thank
you
mayor.
That's
it
for
questions.
H
David,
what
was
this?
What
was
the
staff
recommendation
to
planning
commission?
It
was
for
approval,
so
a
staff
approved
it.
I
can
understand
the
noise
issues
when
you
look
at
the
map
with
with
everything
was
anything
looked
at
with
off-site
parking
versus
that
parking
lot
like
as
an
example.
You
know
we
have
you
know
in
the
day
the
rite
aid
is
used.
I
don't
know
if
it's
over
24
hours
or
not
there's
an
office
building
across
the
street.
H
A
A
It
is
not
likely
that
you
know
that
that's
going
to
be
the
max
the
number
of
people
at
the
site,
all
the
time,
every
day,
every
hour
that
they're
open.
So
that's
something
that
again
it's
more
about.
You
know,
assuming
they
have
an
event
or
a
special
occasion,
they're
they
they
cannot
exceed
that
the
private
the
prior
use
that
was
at
this
location
was
a
meeting
hall
and
they
did
events
and
other
assembly
type
special
events,
but
they
they
had.
A
B
If
there
are
no
other
questions
for
staff
at
this
time,
I
would
like
to
open
the
public
hearing.
The
appellate
will
have
up
to
five
minutes
to
provide
their
testimony
and
the
public
is
invited
to
speak
on
this
public
hearing
for
up
to
two
minutes.
If
there
are
other
speakers,
the
applicant
will
be
invited
to
provide
a
rebuttal
of
up
to
two
minutes.
F
F
F
F
We
will
not
be
serving
food,
we
would
be
working
from
thursday
to
sunday
granted
business
was
great
and
booming,
but
in
the
beginning
we
probably
would
be
just
friday
and
saturday.
I
know
it
mentioned
in
the
the
presentation
was
from
4
p.m.
Starting
time
it's
actually
9
pm
4
pm
would
be
if
there
was
a
special
event.
F
This
is
not
an
always
time.
Our
guest
will
be
asked
for
to
become
dressed,
to
impress
a
strict
dress
code
will
be
asked
for
all
patrons
and
fuego
nightclub
will
work
towards
shifting
a
cultural
landscape.
Excuse
me
that
increasingly
de-emphasizes
alcohol
consumption
and
focuses
more
on
the
entertainment
aspect
of
it.
F
F
F
Fuego's
tight
security
will
make
anybody
feel
comfortable
a
night
to
remember
everyone,
including
the
employees,
will
feel
safe
while
having
a
good
time.
Our
goal
is
to
leave
everlasting
impressions
for
tourists
and
locals
to
come.
A
higher
clientele
will
be
asked
to
come,
but
it
will
be
the
comfort
that
everyone
will
really
enjoy
our
sound
mitigation
plan.
It
is
pretty
extensive.
F
We
did
a
series
of
findings
with
the
acoustical
report,
as
well
as
the
plan
peer
review,
and
we
found
that
with
proper
mitigation
measures,
the
sound
can
be
remedied.
So
it's
not
heard
outside
the
west
wall,
which
is
also
located
at
the
back
of
the
bar,
would
be
the
back
of
the
house,
but
we
are
planning
on
putting
in
noise,
deafening
walls
as
well
as
gypsum
board,
as
well
as
high-tech.
F
The
sound
mitigation
walls
will
be
from
floor
to
ceiling
that
way.
The
noise
does
not
emanate
and
go
to
where
the
residents
are
could
possibly
be
bothered.
In
the
late
evening,
fuego
will
assist
with
job
opportunities,
tax
revenue
for
the
city
and
state
and
building
use
that
will
assist
with
some
of
the
homelessness
issues
in
the
area
there.
The
potential
to
bring
fuego
to
life
in
palm
springs
is
in
fact
a
dream
come
true
as
a
local
resident
here
in
palm
springs.
F
The
area
where
the
club
is
located
has
long
been
neglected.
As
far
as
tourism
is
concerned,
in
my
eyes,
and
I
believe
that
the
addition
to
the
300
blocked
is
definitely
needed
by
offering
locals
and
visitors
the
perfect
dance
location
that
is
safe
and
fun,
our
team
is
provided
prepared
to
provide
a
far
start
five-star
experience
for
all.
F
F
F
F
D
N
Thank
you
good
evening,
council
members.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
this
gracious
opportunity
to
express
my
humble
opinion.
My
name
is
andrew
paul
kevich,
I'm
a
senior
executive
director
in
the
entertainment
industry,
I've
I
fell
in
love
with
palm
springs
many
years
ago
and
I'm
currently
a
very
proud
resident.
N
I
see
downtown
palm
springs
as
the
crown
jewel
of
california
and
I'm
a
big
proponent
of
the
business
expansion
and
the
revitalization
that
has
hit
full
speed
following
the
pandemic,
which,
as
you
know,
had
put
sad
but
temporary
damper
on
the
progress.
So
I
personally
am
full
support
of
the
fuego
nightclub
project
for
several
reasons.
Number
one.
N
One
of
the
things
that
I
noticed
is
that
downtown
palm
springs
is
really
missing
a
high-end,
sophisticated
premier
social
club
that
could
further
elevate
the
city's,
unique
image
and
broad
appeal
and
serve
as
a
great
marketing
tool
to
attract
more
excellent
tourism
and
greater
dollars
to
flow
into
the
city,
and
I
think
fuego
is
exactly
that
type
of
concept
that
will,
you
know,
satisfy
that
need.
I
know
that
applicant
personally
and
professionally.
N
And
lastly,
you
know
I'm
ready
to
put
on
my
dancing.
Shoes
enjoy
myself
with
my
friends,
neighbors
and
toast
the
bright
future
of
this
one-of-a-kind
town
and
our
colorful
community.
So
in
summary,
as
you
can
tell
I'm
passionately
and
zealously
encouraging
you
to
allow
for
this
progress
to
happen
and
fuego
to
open
to
the
benefit
of
our
beloved
community.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
have
a
good
night.
D
R
Hi,
my
name
is
brittany,
I'm
a
tenant
at
the
orleans
apartments
on
south
gelato
road
and
I
still
get
the
first
meeting,
I'm
as
a
voice
for
all
the
attendants.
We
have
all
voted
and
we
do
not
want
this
coming
and
at
all
you
know
it's
a
disrupt.
It
disrupts
our
livelihood
and
to
talk
about
this,
the
in
addition
to
things
that
you
talked
about
regarding
parking,
the
36
spaces
doesn't
seem
like
enough
at
all.
Once
you
take
into
consideration
staff.
R
R
Are
you
saying
that
there's
going
to
be
a
security
guard
monitoring
the
parking,
the
parking,
my
like
our
parking
lot
in
the
streets,
because
I
know
there's
going
to
be
a
ton
of
people
parking
out
on
the
streets
and
jumps
to
me
really
violent
and
unpredictable,
so
that
kind
of
scares
me.
The
other
thing
that
you
guys
talked
about
was
the
the
pro
the
sound
prop.
R
The
proper
sound
mitigation
measures
are
you
going
to
be
doing
that
for
other
units
of
our
apartment,
complex
as
well,
because
I'm
sure
there's
going
to
be
noise
that
gets
out
from
over
there
the
nightclub
and
it
comes
into
our
our
complex
as
well.
So
is
that
going
to
be
done
in
any
of
our
units
as
well,
because
I
mean
that
would
only
kind
of
seem
fair,
but,
besides
that
we
we
just
don't
want
this
coming
in.
We
don't
want.
R
D
N
D
Q
Thank
you
good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
city
council,
matt
shuck.
I
am
the
general
manager
of
the
avalon
hotel
in
bungalows
and
ingleside
inn.
Both
should
wish
to
be
noted
on
the
top
10
of
tot
contribution,
I'm
also
speaking
on
behalf
of
lars
vickland,
who
owns
the
las
cerna
villas,
the
del
marcos
and
the
350
hotel
both.
Actually
all
five
of
these
hotels
are
within
500
feet
of
the
proposed
nightclub.
Q
You
know
we've
had
I
hear
a
lot
that
this
is
one
club
that's
being
added
in.
We
are
already
dealing
with
the
village
cub
noise,
the
robinson
may
building
was
permitted
to
be
another
club
and
now
this
club,
that
puts
three
clubs
within
a
one
block,
radius
surrounding
five
hotels
and
residences.
So
we're
now
creating
a
new
entertainment
strip
right
around
some
top
producing
properties
and
I'll.
Just
get
to
the
point
with
there's
there's
four
main
points:
you
talked
about
parking
already,
there's
a
significant
deficiency
in
parking.
Q
Q
What
this
means
is
you've
got
30
what
34
parking
spots
for
327
people,
where
are
they
going
to
park
they're
going
to
park
on
the
street
they're
going
to
park
in
these
lots
that
the
owners
don't
want
them
to
do
they're
going
to
come
out
at
two
in
the
morning
screaming
yelling
smoking
fighting
all
within
again
the
the
the
purview
of
five
great
hotels
in
our
community?
Second,
one
is
increases
in
traffic
generation.
We
are
gonna,
see
a
lot
more
traffic
down,
bellarda
which
isn't
lit
at
all.
Q
You're
gonna
see
much
more
incidents
of
of
hits
and
runs
and
and
incidents.
There.
Third
is
excessive
noise.
You
know
the
the
the
noise
studies
that
they
have
are
inadequate
because
they
don't
address
the
noise
that's
being
generated
outside
of
the
facility
by
patrons
coming
and
going
and
leaving
after
2
a.m.
Again,
fighting
honking
screaming.
All
of
that
you
know
the.
The
fourth
is
inadequate
security
provisions.
Q
D
M
Okay,
thank
you,
hello.
My
name
is
emily
sanchez
and
I've
been
a
resident
of
palm
springs.
All
my
life.
I've
been
keeping
up
with
this
project
and
I'm
in
full
support
of
it.
I
know
palm
trees
can
really
benefit
from
having
a
nightclub,
and
I
believe
that
this
is
going
to
be
the
attraction
palm
spring
needs.
I
don't
have
anything
negative
to
say
about
this
project.
All
I
see
is
good.
Coming
from
it.
M
M
However,
I
do
recognize
that
there
is
a
small
apartment,
complex
located
in
the
central
business
district.
I
realize
this
is
unfortunate
for
them,
but
these
senates
should
have
been
aware
that
downtown
is
lively
and
is
inevitable
for
the
city
to
continue.
This
close,
I
hope
this
project
gets
approved
this
evening.
I'm
excited
to
support
a
hispanic
businesswoman
and
hopefully
bring
more
diversity
to
the
business
owners
downtown.
M
D
N
N
After
seeing
the
original
zoom
call
when
this
club
was
declined,
I
feel
like
this
club
and
owners
were
being
discriminated
against,
because
other
clubs,
such
as
reforma
and
pretty
famous
pretty
faces,
were
approved
when
they
didn't
even
have
a
security
plan.
Meanwhile,
fuego
showed
them
the
security
plan
to
take
every
take
care
of
everyone
inside
and
out
and
was
also
approved
by
the
police
department.
N
Also,
another
thing
that
I
noticed
during
the
last
meeting
was
as
well
was
that
they
said
this
place
wasn't
going
to
have
enough
parking
spaces,
but
after
doing
some
research
to
the
city
coast,
they
have
more
than
enough
and
then
also
a
council
member
said
it
was
a
great
idea
for
a
terrible
location,
but
it's
truly
the
perfect
location
to
expand
what
is
already
known
as
downtown
palm
springs.
I
believe
fuego
can
operate
as
a
safe.
D
M
Okay,
thanks
hi,
I'm
kelly,
I'm
lars's
wife,
we
own
the
350
del
marcos
and
la
serena
villas,
as
well
as
the
apartment
building.
That's
right
next
to
the
proposed
nightclub.
I
think
we
should
focus
on
that.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
got
to
see
the
pictures
that
we
had
sent
into
the
planning
committee,
basically,
the
apartment
building
and
the
nightclub
fuego.
You
can
touch
with
both
hands
on
either
side
of
you.
So
that's
a
really
big
concern.
M
We've
had
such
a
hard
time
since
covid-
and
you
know
one
of
our
biggest
revenues-
is
both
the
hotels
and
the
apartment
building.
It's
only
my
husband
and
I
ours.
We
have
no
investors,
we've
put
our
heart
and
soul
into
everything,
and
the
thing
that
strikes
me
is
that
when
we
were
building
los
arena
villas,
it
was
proposed
as
a
27
room
property
and
we
have
to
cut
it
down
to
18
because
of
parking,
and
we
ought
to
also
build
a
parking
lot
and
spaces
behind
the
hotel.
M
I
don't
understand
a
club
for
350
people
and
there's
30
spaces
and
getting
out
at
2
in
the
morning
drunk
I
I
don't
know
how
my
businesses
are
going
to
survive.
We
already
have
another
one
going
into
the
beth
mouse.
I
think
it's
important
to
focus
that
this
is
a
residential
area
and
I
just
don't
understand
how
that
looks
at
my
with
drunk
people
going
to
their
cars
and
where
they're
parking
for
my
hotel
for
my
residence
at
the
orleans,
I
really
am
concerned
about
them.
One
of
them
brought
up
in
the
last
meeting.
M
Would
you
want
to
live
there,
which
I
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
people
moving
out
and
it's
going
to
be
really
hard
to
get
people
to
to
live
there?
That
is
their
home?
And
anyway,
at
the
last
meeting
at
the
planning
committee,
it
was
voted
down
seven
to
zero.
So
I'm
I'm
surprised
that
there's
hope
to
appeal
it.
When
you
know
there
was
so
much
negativity
against
it
anyway,
I
I
have
heard
that
eisenhower
is
not
willing
to
give
them
parking
spots.
I
don't
know
how
they.
D
D
Q
D
M
M
M
I
I
only
see
this
as
a
benefit
for
all
of
the
hotels
that
will
have
guests
looking
for
things
to
do
at
night.
It
sounds
like
there's
a
really
good
plan
in
place
to
get
the
the
noise
under
control
and
there's
already
people
on
the
strip.
I
I
don't
know
if
it
will,
if
it
would
really
bring
in
so
many
different
people,
as
maybe
adjust
where
the
people
are
all
going
and
give
more
options.
M
D
R
R
I've
been
by
that
property
and
visited
and
see
the
homelessness,
the
vagrancy,
the
abandonedness.
I
also
am
a
business
owner,
and
I
own
commercial,
real
estate
and
crime.
I
understand
the
people
living
in
the
apartments
feeling
like
it
will
bring
crime
but
actually
abandoned
homeless
areas,
bring
a
lot
more
crime
and
danger
and
depreciation
of
your
property
than
having
a
thriving
active
business.
That's
promoting
all
those
people
from
the
neighboring
hotels
to
have
somewhere
to
go,
and
in
2022
people
do
not
pack
in
a
car
and
go
to
a
nightclub.
R
They
come
in
limousines,
they
come
in
town
cars,
they
come
in
ubers
and
lifts
and
they
leave
in
those
same
devices
and
as
long
as
there's
a
security
plan
and
a
great
parking
plan-
and
I
know
the
rite
aid
owners
across
the
street
did
say
that
they
would
accommodate
either.
You
know
the
employees
or
someone
so
there's
other
people
that
they
could
if
they
had
a
plan
in
place
for
parking
and
then
the
security
in
the
parking
lot
that
are
monitoring
the
surrounding
areas.
D
M
Good
evening,
everybody
thank
you
for
having
me
tonight.
I
would
like
to
comment
on
item
2a.
My
name
is
onya
barber.
I
am
a
lifetime
resident
and
a
business
owner
in
palm
springs,
and
I
frequently
host
out
of
town,
friends
and
family.
I
have
known
justine
and
hugo
personally
and
professionally
for
over
10
years.
I
trust
them.
I
believe
in
them
the
thought
of
them
having
an
upscale
nightclub
down
here
to
invigorate
our
nightlife
is
really
so
exciting.
M
I
mean
let
alone
one
run
by
justine
and
hugo.
I've
reviewed
these
plans
extensively,
and
this
is
truly
inspiring.
This
club
will
be
about
atmosphere,
not
alcohol.
Personally,
I'm
not
a
drinker.
I'm
really
excited
about
their
plans.
I
hear
a
lot
of
worries
about
sound,
but
I'm
also
hearing
a
lot
of
solutions.
M
C
Sorry,
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I'm
in
full
support
of
fuego
nightclub.
I
think
it's
great.
You
know.
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
was
said
in
the
past
meeting
was
that
it
was
the
fourth
nightclub,
but
the
reality
is
that
there
isn't
a
lot
of
nightclubs
in
palm
springs,
they're,
restaurants.
C
That
then
turn
into
dance
spaces,
which
is
why
they're
so
small
and
over
crammed
and
now
this
fuego
is
presented
as
an
actual
big
nightclub,
where
you
can
fit
more
people,
and
all
these
other
places
that
are
overflowing
are
now
gonna,
be
at
this
great
nightclub,
I'm
kind
of
nervous,
but
I
mean
I
just
wanted
to
say
I'm
in
full
support
and
as
far
as
the
parking
it
sounds
like,
the
rite
aid
is
working
with
them
and
they'll
be
plenty
parking.
Again
I
mean
people,
my
age,
typically
uber.
C
J
J
My
bedtime
is
nine,
so
I've
never
gone
at
10,
11,
12,
1
or
2,
but
all
of
those
lots
are
open,
and
so
I
think
what
you
the
council
needs
to
figure
out
is:
how
do
you
push
that
those
crowds
and
that
traffic
across
to
the
right
aid
with
no
crosswalk-
and
I
know
mayor
middleton-
is
the
the
biggest
supporter
of
crosswalks
in
the
entire
world,
and
I
agree
with
her
on
that.
But
really
it's
those
four
unmonitored
lots.
J
I
squat
in
those
lots
as
a
parker
when
I
run
into
those
rest
there's
dine
in
those
restaurants
all
the
time.
I
think,
without
getting
those
lots
under
control
you're
going
to
have
that
noise
out
there
at
10,
11,
12,
1,
2
disturbing
the
guests
in
those
hotels.
If
you
can
make
those
lots
inaccessible
by
working
with
those
owners
who
now
leave
them
unmonitored,
then
you
might
be
able
to
craft
a
solution
that
works
for
everybody.
Thank
you.
D
M
Thank
you
well
good
evening,
good
evening
to
everybody,
and
especially
to
you,
madam
mayor,
and
all
the
citizens
of
my
favorite
city
on
the
planet.
Firstly,
I
want
to
register
my
resounding
support
for
this
project
as
a
38-year
resident.
I
feel
entitled
to
give
my
tuppence
worth
of
opinion
on
this
matter,
and
I've
done
my
share
of
clubbing.
M
Believe
me,
and
in
the
mid
80s
and
90s
palm
springs
was
the
bee's
knees
people
got
dressed,
to
impress
to
see
and
to
be
seen
and
over
the
years,
the
glamour
that
was
palm
springs
has
been
diluted
and
except
for
the
few
fabulous
pride
events,
there's
just
nowhere
in
palm
springs.
That
offers
the
kind
of
experience
being
proposed
by
the
owners
of
this.
We
hope
club
and
elegant
dress
codes,
seam
nights,
multicultural,
music,
genres.
M
Their
plan
is
to
create
a
place
for
us
to
get
dressed
up
and
go
a
divine
location
where
we
can
socialize
with
like-minded
residents
or
tourists,
sit
on
exotic
or
produce
student
cocktails
and
listen
to
great
music
and
dance
wow.
I'm
surprised,
there's
so
much
debate
on
such
a
positive
project
come
on.
M
This
is
the
perfect
time
for
palm
springs.
To
make
up
for
all
the
lost
revenue
of
the
pandemic.
This
kind
of
light-hearted
fun
activity
will
attract
a
section
of
the
population
that
is
presently
being
ignored,
and
these
people
will
certainly
bring
the
much
needed
tax
dollars
to
the
city.
It's
bound
to
be
a
big
winner,
I
say
say
yes
to
fuego.
D
M
D
Q
Oh
sorry,
thank
you
yeah,
I'm
just
here
to
comment.
While
I'm
still
listening
to
the
city
council-
and
I
am
24
years
old-
and
I
am
in
support
of
a
new
night
club
like
this-
I
believe
the
parking
spaces
are
more
than
enough
and
the
nightlife
of
downtown
palm
springs
has
been
growing
again
steadily
for
the
past
five
seven
years.
Q
D
M
M
Last
week
we
approved
the
nightclub
in
zozos.
The
reason
we
didn't
approve
this
club
was
that
there
is
absolutely
no
buffer
between
this
building
and
residential
units.
That
abut
it,
and
we
uniformly
agreed
that
this
is
an
inappropriate
location
for
a
club.
We
liked
the
club
we
didn't
discriminate
against
it.
We
believe
that
it
might
be
a
very
good
venue,
someplace
else
in
palm
springs,
but
we
had
great
concerns
about
that.
We
also
had
concerns
about
the
parking
below.
M
D
J
Hey,
council,
sorry
that
you
are
doing
such
a
marathon
this
evening,
you
certainly
are
fulfilling
your
civic
duty.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
as
the
former
manager
of
los
angeles
and
as
a
resident,
I
strongly
oppose
and
urge
you
to
deny
the
application
by
tobago
to
go
into
the
bank
building
as
part
of
my
duties,
I
was
involved
in
managing
your
language
building
and
those
poor
tenants
are
literally
just
steps
up
building,
and
I
don't
believe
that
any
noise
mitigation
that
they
propose
is
worth
sacrificing.
J
J
If
you
listen
to
the
testimony
of
the
sergeant
at
the
planning
commission,
he
seemed
reluctant
to
confirm
that
they
would
be
able
to
handle
such
a
crowd,
and
so
many
drunk
people,
and
so
many
people
hanging
out
at
their
cars.
So
as
someone
who
works
in
hospitality,
I'm
concerned
about
the
noise
level
as
well,
because
standing
on
the
front
steps
of
lost
serena,
I
can
tell
you
you
can
hear
the
amplified
music
from
the
village
and
since
you're
up
so
late.
J
You
may
want
to
drive
by
and
see
if
they're
actually
complying
with
their
cup
to
have
the
doors
closed
when
they're
playing
music,
because
I
can
tell
you
almost
every
night
of
the
week.
That
is
not
the
case,
so
I
lack
the
confidence
in
the
operator
being
able
to
fill
the
cup
even
if
it
was
going
to
mitigate
the
noise
for
the
tenants.
J
F
Thank
you
again.
I
really
do
appreciate
you
giving
me
this
opportunity.
I
do
hear
a
lot
of
concern
about
possible
noise
when
people
are
leaving
the
facility
in
our
efforts
to
make
it
comfortable
for
residents
of
palm
springs
me
being
one,
including
we
want
to
offer
some
sort
of
barrier
mechanism
in
the
parking
lot,
so
we
can
either
have
a
valet
driver
that
parks,
the
vehicles
or.
F
Alternatively,
we
create
that
to
be
a
vip
guest,
only
parking
area
and
with
those
barriers
it
will
kind
of
well,
it
will
eliminate
for
certain
the
the
hanging
around
in
the
parking
lot,
causing
the
noise
in
the
parking
lot
on
the
the
west
end
of
the
building,
and
really
just
more
so
focusing
on
the
vip
area
for
them.
I
did
hear
a
couple
comments
about.
This
is
the
fourth
nightclub.
F
It's
actually
the
second,
the
pub
and
the
village
pub
and
moxie
are
actually
classified
as
a
restaurant.
As
all
of
you
know
and
unfortunate,
it
is
difficult
for
them
to
control
the
noise
they're,
a
restaurant
that
is
half
outdoors.
I
I
understand
I
I
empathize
with
them.
I
I
was
ecstatic
to
hear
that
the
planning
commission
was
definitely
interested
in
actuating,
the
300
block
when
reforma
was
approved,
and
I
was
in
full
support
of
them
as
well
as
pretty
faces.
F
Also
on
parking,
as
we
all
do
know,
lyft
is
a
huge
factor.
Uber
ride
sharing,
maybe
even
some
of
the
hotels
offer
shuttles
right.
So
we
really
want
to
work
with
the
local
hotels
and
maybe
offer
their
clients
some
sort
of
discounts
when
entering
the
the
facility,
as
well
as
offering
them
any
any
offerings
that
we
can
offer
to
the
tourists
as
well.
H
F
A
little
about
me,
as
I
mentioned,
I,
am
born
and
raised
here
in
palm
springs.
I
do
have
a
pretty
extensive
background
in
the
entertainment
industry.
More
recent,
I
have
done
real
estate
here
in
palm
springs,
revamping
housing
for
locals,
who
need
more
housing.
I've
done
management
for
big
hoa
complexes.
I
do
vacate
I
used
to.
I
had
a
business
for
vacation
rental
management,
but
more
so
on
the
entertainment
aspect.
I
have
worked
with
many
hotels,
well-known
hotels
here
in
the
coachella,
as
well
as
outside
of
the
coachella
valley.
H
So
you
know
we
we,
we
are
approving
the
land
use,
not
necessarily
you
right
we're
approving
the
land
use,
but
we
have
a
variety
of
operating
conditions,
and
I
can
just
tell
you
from
my
own
experience:
controlling
a
hip-hop
crowd
is
not
always
the
easiest
thing
in
the
world.
Did
you
have
any
idea
any
thoughts
on
that.
F
Yes,
so
it
wouldn't
be
primarily
just
hip-hop.
We
want
to
offer
a
place
for
maybe
country
night,
maybe
soft
rock
night,
maybe
indie
night,
that
would
that
was
the
initial
plan.
But
really
we
saw
a
greater
opportunity
for
more
music,
possibly
the
occasional
couple
times
a
year
with
a
soft
rock,
maybe
a
local
band,
a
local
artist
that
wants
to
enjoy
the
lounge.
F
H
F
Yes,
we've
done
plenty
of
market
research.
I
can
I'm
more
than
happy
to
provide
the
business
plan
that
we
have
provided
to
the
sba,
as
well
as
other
owners
here
in
the
coachella
valley,
but
this
is
an
extensive
marketplace
that
could
potentially
make
the
city
as
well.
As
you
know,
local
hotels,
a
great
deal
of
revenue.
E
F
We
have
already
entered
a
lease
as
of
july
of
2021,
and
we
have
actively
been
paying
on
that
lease.
We
pay
for
overnight
security
right
now
since
that
time,
just
to
monitor
the
parking
lot
and
make
sure
that
there
aren't
any
campsites
of
homelessness
or
vagrants,
and
things
like
that,
so
we
are
involved
in
the
building.
We
do
not
own
it,
yet
our
hopes
are
when
the
lease
is
over.
We
would
purchase
the
building.
F
B
F
F
F
F
F
F
In
the
very
beginning
of
our
project,
we
we
were
given
a
a
couple:
email
addresses
from
the
planning
department.
I
didn't
hear
anything
back.
I
I'm
hopeful
that
they,
if
they
wanted
to
speak
and
reach
out
to
us,
they
would
definitely
do
so,
but
our
doors
are
always
open
and
if
there's
any
mitigation
measures
that
they
think
that
are
needed,
we're
definitely
open
to
it.
B
D
E
A
So
yes,
councilmember
holsteige,
I
went
back
to
the
general
plan
relative
to
page
73
and
the
references
in
that
letter.
So
the
reference
was
an
action
item,
land
use,
1.1,
and
that
was
in
response
to
a
goal
which
is
to
establish
a
balanced
pattern
of
land
uses
that
complements
the
pattern
and
character
of
existing
uses.
A
So
it's
more
of
an
action
item
to
address
balanced
land
uses
when
it
talks
about
developing
standards
that
provide
appropriate
transitions
between
commercial,
industrial
and
residential
uses
more
in
the
broader
sense.
So
when
we
have,
you
know
a
commercial
district,
that's
only
commercial
versus
a
residential
district,
that's
only
residential.
A
S
S
The
necessary
or
desirable,
clearly
it's
not
necessary,
and
there
are
parts
of
it
that
that
are
desirable,
but
I'm
having
a
real
trouble
with,
I
believe
31
unit
apartment,
building,
right
close
to
a
nightclub
that
has
capacity
for
350
people.
The
parking
issues
exist
and
you
know
we've
talked
about
the
need
to
update
our
our
parking
code
from
I
don't
know
the
80s
or
whenever
it
was
done-
and
this
maybe
highlights
some
of
that,
but
it
obviously
meets
the
parking
requirements.
S
But
my
big
issue,
which
sounds
like
the
one
that
the
planning
commission
had,
is
that
it's
right
up
against
this
apartment
building.
It's
also
near
you
know,
hotels
where
the
noise
will
have
an
impact,
but
so
the
apartment
building
strikes
me
as
a
thing
that
makes
it
hard
for
me
to
make
a
finding
that
this
is
desirable.
But
I,
of
course
want
to
hear
from
the
rest
of
council
on
that.
E
Thank
you
yeah.
I
think
that's
the
issue.
Thank
you
for
sharing.
I
actually
think
that
this
first
part
of
that,
finding
that
the
use
is
necessary
or
desirable
for
the
development
of
the
community
is
in
harmony
with
the
various
elements
or
objectives
that
the
general
plan
is
is
met.
It's
clear
that
entertainment
uses
are
intended
and
specified
in
the
central
business
district.
E
I
think
for
me
and
by
the
way
I
think
it's
very
desirable
to
have
a
club,
a
real
club
in
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
and
expand
opportunities
for
for
people
to
go
to
club
and
dance,
and
we
see
kind
of
the
the
lack
of
opportunities
for
folks
with
lines
and
stuff.
I
think
for
me,
the
issue
that
were
that
I
want
to
discuss
is
that
if
it's
not
detrimental
to
existing
uses
or
for
future
uses,
and
so
that's
the
com,
that's
what
I
wanted
to
raise
is.
E
I
do
think
it's
you
know
consistent
with
the
business
district,
and
I
think
this
issue
will
probably
come
up
more
and
more.
As
we
do
see,
you
know
more
people
coming
and
wanting
to
expand
entertainment
uses
and
just
how
to
balance
that
with
residential
downtown
right,
which
palm
canyon
is
our
main
street,
and
so
we
expect
that
likely
nightclubs
will
be
on
palm
canyon,
and
so
that's
a
balance
that
we're
gonna
have
to
figure
out.
But
we
don't
have
to
do
that
tonight.
E
We
just
have
to
decide
if
it's
detrimental
to
existing
uses
or
future
uses,
and
I
think
that's
what
we've
heard
from
the
community.
I
haven't
made
up
my
mind
on
that
issue
and
just
trying
to
hear
the
public
comment
and
hear
from
council,
but
I
just
wanted
a
flag.
That's
my
interpretation
of
where
we're
at
on
that
finding
or
where
I'm
at.
H
I
went
to
the
pisha
lunch
today,
which
is
the
palm
springs,
hospitality
association
and
they
one
of
the
and
michael
braun,
spoke
about
the
future
of
palm
springs,
and
one
of
the
issues
that
he
met
is
he
had
made
is
that
we
really
need
more
entertainment
venues
to
bring
people
out
here
or
they're
going
to
go
to
other
places,
and
we
have.
We
live
beyond
our
means
in
palm
springs,
and
what
do
I
mean
by
that?
We
have
our
own
police
department.
H
We
have
our
own
fire
department,
we
have
great
parks,
we
have
good
streets.
We
have
all
of
these
amenities
that
are
basically
sponsored
by
the
tourism
industry.
Unfortunately,
and
we
have
been
trying
ever
since
I've
been
on
council
to
diversify
that
to
get
more
but
we
have
to,
and
we
have
organizations
that
buffer
that-
and
I
don't
think
that's
a
bad
thing.
I
think
that's
a
good
thing:
it
was
a
bank
originally
and
obviously
mixed
use
is
next
to
it.
H
It
doesn't
appear.
I
read
through
the
literature
that
was,
the
comments
are
provided.
If
you
parked
on
bellardo,
it
doesn't
really
appear
that
you
can
cut
through
to
the
the
proposed
nightclub
you
really
do
have
to
park
either
on
palm
canyon
and
or
the
parking
lot
or
somewhere
else
around.
This
is
not
unusual
and
that's
what
makes
a
downtown
dynamic.
H
You
don't
want
your
downtown
dead
at
night.
That's
the
death
of
you,
and
you
know
some
of
the
stuff.
I
read
about
the
homeless,
this
and
and
that
and
encampments.
Well,
when
you
have
vitality
like
that,
you
know
they're
not
going
to
camp
and
sleep
in
your
doorstep,
because
people
are
coming
and
going
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
and
you
want
the
parking
to
be
shared.
H
So
what
we
really
have
to
manage
here
is
the
parking
at
night
when
people
leave
that
we've
heard
a
lot
about.
Oh
there's,
drugs
and
people
are
hanging
out.
You
know,
that's
who
knows
if
that's
true
or
not,
maybe
a
previous
owner
of
some
nightclub
had
those
problems.
But
it
seems
to
me
in
listening
to
the
staff
report,
that
our
police
chief
is
fully
on
board
with
this,
and
the
police
department
thinks
that
the
security
measures
that
they're
putting
in
place
will
work.
H
That
would
make
that
one
issue,
which
is
basically
noise
in
the
parking
lot
or
at
two
in
the
morning,
be
mitigated.
It
seems,
like
other
noise
is
mitigated,
so
I
would
leave
put
the
thinking
cap
on
our
staff
at
this
point.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
do
it
off
the
cuff
or
if
you
need
a
little
bit
of
time,
but
that's
kind
of
where
I
stand
with
it.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
That's
why
there
are
34
parking
spaces
down
there
to
bring
over
300
individuals
into
that
space
with
only
34
parking
spaces,
some
of
which
are
going
to
be
taken
up
by
management,
means
that
we
are
offloading
all
of
the
parking
issues
on
to
to
palm
canyon
and
that's
going
to
create
issues
for
for
a
lot
of
other
businesses
and
operations.
So
I'm
going
to
vote
to
support
the
planning
commission.
H
The
mayor's
issue
with
noise,
I
think,
is
a
real
issue,
particularly
for
the
apartment
building.
That's
jason,
and
do
you
see
in
listening
to
the
applicant
speak
and,
in
your
own
professional
opinion,
a
way
to
mitigate
that
either
through
the
use
of
it
or
adding
some
additional
criteria
or
conditions
of
approval.
A
That
would
be
one
thing.
Another
thing
that
comes
to
mind
is
to
which
we
have
in
here
currently
is
to
have
a
regular
update
so
or
a
check
in
every
six
months
to
see
what
activities
have
been
occurring
and
if
those
items
are
be,
you
know
out
of
conformance
with
our
conditions,
then
you
know
we
scheduled
for
planning,
commission
review
and
the
app
would
have
to
respond
and
address
that
and
to
avoid
revocation
of
the
cup.
H
Great,
can
I
just
ask
you
a
little
for
the
question
that
I
think
the
applicant.
I
think
rightfully
stated
that
they're,
you
know
we
really
don't
want
people
jaywalking
and
whatnot
across
you
know
palm
canyon
and
when
wangs
was
opened,
which
is
an
indian
which
is
just
the
other
way.
Everyone
parked
in
the
rite
aid
parking
lot
and
they
ran
across
the
street
right,
which
we
don't
want
to
really
recreate
here.
J
A
And
another
way
to
address
some
of
these
items
is
through
the
parking
management
plan,
which
would
be
done
through
a
land
use
permit,
which
would
be
conditions
that
staff
would
impose
to
ensure
that
off-site
parking
on
the
adjacent
or
the
property
across
the
street.
You
know
there's
safe
access
to
the
to
the
operation,
and
that
might
be
done
through
whatever
conditions
that
we
develop
with
the
afghan
to
either
transport.
A
H
Maybe
you
know
if
we
prove
this
and
that
could
be
between
staff
and
the
applicant
get
the
surety
that
would
be
receiving
staff,
and
you
know
you
guys
could
negotiate
that
without
having
to
necessarily
come
through
council
right
and
then
put
that
in
and
then
it
would
be
reviewed
in
six
months
and
we
would
have
that
surety
on
board.
Would
that
be
something
acceptable.
H
It's
very
difficult,
but
just
because
of
the
apa,
the
apartments
I'm
less
worried
about
the
the
hotels
and
whatnot,
and
I
read
the
stuff
and
I
listened
to
their
testimony
but
they're
quite
a
ways
away
from
this
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
barriers
between
that,
and
so
I
would
with
the
conditions
we
just
talked
about,
I
would
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
project,
which
was
the
staff
recommendation
based
on
those
conditions.
The
question
I
guess
I
have
the
last
question
I
have
is
what,
if
we
can't
mitigate
it?
H
J
E
E
H
The
motion
would
be
to
approve
the
project
right
with
the
added
condition
that
we
re-look
at
the
parking
management
study
with
staff,
that
we
do
a
review
of
the
parking
management
study
and
that
we
get
a
sure
of
financial
surety
of
some
sort
to
to
basically
implement
anything
that
we
need
to
implement
that
we
have
money
on
board
to
do
it,
and
if
none
of
that
works
right
and
it's
a
problem,
then
we
either
look
at
the
cup
and
recondition
it
or
we
revoke.
The
cup
is
what
we
do.
E
Thank
you,
okay,
so
that
triggered
my
memory
of
what
I
was
going
to
ask.
So
if
I
can
ask
planning
staff
david,
if
you
don't
mind
so
what
I
raised
earlier
so
looking
at
that
fine
criterion
that
the
use
is
necessary
or
desirable,
it's
in
harmony,
and
it's
not
detrimental
so
staff
originally
found
in
staff's
recommendation
recommending
approval
of
this
project
to
the
planning
commission,
that
staff
identified
that
they
thought
and
recommended
that
that
criterion
was
met
right.
E
So
can
you
just
explain
sort
of
the
reasoning
behind
staff's
recommendation
on
that
criterion
and
then
for
us?
I
always
have
such
a
hard
time
with
these
criterions,
because
they're
not
further
defined
right.
So
what
exactly?
Should
we
be
looking
at
and
making
the
determination
that
it's
not
that
either
hearing
council
member
course
that
it
is
in
harmony
or
that
it's
necessary
or
desirable,
or
my
concern
about
it's
not
detrimental.
So
what
did
staff
look
at
to
make
those
those
determinations?
I
read
planning
commission's
opinion,
but
staff's
opinion
would
be
helpful.
A
So,
on
page
27,
we
outline
responses
to
each
of
the
three
phrases
in
criterion
number:
two,
whether
it's
necessarily
desirable
for
the
development
of
the
community
and
in
our
finding
we
said
the
central
business
district
is
intended
to
be
a
compact,
lively,
active
intensively,
used
area
catering
to
the
pedestrian,
with
specific,
with
specialty
retail
restaurants
and
entertainment
uses
this
being
a
entertainment
use.
It
would
be
desirable
for
the
development
of
the
community
in
the
cbd
zone,
so
that
was
the
first
part.
E
Thank
you,
and
in
the
past,
when
we
assess,
if
something's
detrimental
to
other
residential
uses,
I
mean
this
isn't
the
first
time
we've
approved
entertainment,
use
or
noise,
a
business
that
could
create
noise
next
to
residential,
especially
in
the
cbd.
We
have
lots
of
you,
know
little
apartments
or
second
floor
next
to
restaurants
and
other
entertainment
and
bars
and
other
entertainment
uses.
So
what's
the
analysis
that
we
typically
do
when
there,
you
know,
is
residential
directly
next
to
a
project.
A
A
So
again,
I
think
what
we
had
intended
with
the
conditions
that
we
imposed
and
the
background
that
we
did
with
this
project
with
the
noise
attenuation
studies
and
the
peer
review,
we
found
that
per
the
noise
experts
we
that
there
were
mitigated,
you
know,
ways
to
mitigate
those
issues,
and
so
because
of
that,
that
was
why
staff
came
to
the
conclusion
of
an
approval
recommendation
and
then,
ultimately,
in
the
end,
it
is
discretionary.
So
that
is
the
discretion
of
planning,
commission
and
council
whether
they
agree
whether
they
find
that
that
evidence
is,
is
sufficient.
E
A
So
that's
why,
in
their
recommendations
and
what
they've
studied
for
this
building,
they
looked
at
the
conditions
with
the
current
age
of
the
structure
being
built
in
the
50s,
the
glass
walls
that
are
there
so
based
on
the
conditions
of
the
structure,
the
surrounding
uses,
residential
being
the
most
impacted,
they
recommended
the
barrier
along
the
westerly
side
of
the
building
where
the
windows
are
currently
located.
They
made
several
recommendations
on
the
sealant,
sealing
the
all
cracks
holes
penetrations
on
the
exterior
and
then
also
providing
additional.
E
Thank
you.
So
I
know
where
mayor
the
mayor
is,
and
I
know
where
council
member
woods
is.
I
didn't
second
the
motion
because
I
didn't
know
where
council
member
coors
was
and
if
there's
a
way
forward
for
council.
Obviously
it's
two.
We
have
only
four
people
here,
voting
so
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
Council
member
course.
H
R
H
Might
just
amend
my
motion
just
really
quick,
and
then
we
can
talk
about
it
more.
I
might
suggest
that
signs
be
put
up
saying,
be
quiet,
for
if
we
had
a
condition
that
signs
we
put
up
be
quiet.
You
know
you're
in
a
residential
neighborhood
right
that
no
trash
after
soon
a
certain
hour
of
the
night
will
be
removed
from
premises,
because
trash
makes
noise
right.
H
S
S
And
council
member
hostage,
thank
you
said
what
I
meant
much
better
than
my
attempt.
I
think
it's
a
desirable
use
in
the
downtown
business
district,
but
I
my
issue
is
the
lack
of
desirability
due
to
the
detrimental
use
to
an
existing
use,
which
is
that
apartment
building
right
next
to
it.
So
is
that
something
that
was
analyzed
by
any
outside
consultant,
like
the
impact
of
all
those
people,
potentially
300
plus
people?
I
realize
that
won't
be
every
night.
But
if
it's
successful
it'll
be
you
know,
thursday,
friday
saturday,
sunday,
potentially
leaving
at
night.
A
So
so
yeah
the
the
consultant
did
analyze.
The
primary
analysis
was
relative
to
speakers
and
amplification
and
I'm
not
certain
that
there's
specific
analysis
for
individuals
speaking
and
I
think
that's
what
the
planning
commission
had
a
lot
of
concerns
with
was,
if
you
do
have
100
or
200
people
walking
out
of
a
venue.
A
A
But
but
again,
if,
if
the
council
is
so
inclined
to
approve
the
project,
then
you
know
there
are
certain
things
that
I
think
as
councilmember
woods
has
suggested,
that
we
can
condition
another
being
requiring
valet
only
so
that
if
the
business
is
operating
and
they
do
have
individuals
who
are
leaving
the
the
venue,
only
the
valet
are
entering
the
parking
lot
and
people
are
not
congregating
in
the
back
parking
lot.
They
would
be
limited
to
the
front
of
the
operation.
A
So
they
did
provide
analysis
in
the
study
on
the
various
levels
of
sound
and
we
do
have
conditions
in
the
in
our
draft
conditions
relative
to
lower
levels
of
base,
so
the
project
would
be
required
to
ensure
that
they
don't
exceed
those
levels,
but
no,
I
you
know,
I
can't
say
specifically
how
they
address
the
base.
I
know
they
considered
it,
but
I
don't
know
the
technicalities
of
it
all
right.
Thank
you.
H
I
might
ask
I
I
guess
we
don't
have
the
the
police
here
tonight,
but
you
know
my
experience
with
arenas.
Is
the
police
chief
here?
Oh
great,
oh
fantastic,
so
my
experience
with
arenas
which
is
right
next
to
a
an
apartment,
complex
right,
it's
across
the
street,
a
large
apartment,
complex
and
a
lot
of
people
park
in
front
of
that
apartment,
complex
and
my
experience
there
is
that
people
in
this
town,
anyways,
don't
all
leave
at
two
in
the
morning.
There
really
is
quite
a
staggering
and
people
drink
earlier.
H
J
T
J
Make
sure
that
people
disperse
without
violence,
especially
in
the
parking
structures,
so
it
to
me
it
really
depends
more
on
how
the
club
is
run
than
it
is
necessarily
on
the
the
presence
of
people.
You
know
in
moderate
numbers,
but
it
will
cause
us
to
continue
to
shrink
our
officers
to
the
middle
of
the
city
to
make
sure
we're
dealing
with
the
problems
that
arise
out
of
our
closing
time.
H
J
The
details
of
that
security
plan,
just
from
what
I
heard
today,
seven
is
a
significant
number
of
security
officers.
Of
course
it
depends
on
how
they're
deployed
and
what
exactly
they're
instructed
to
do
and
that's
why
they
think
the
training
is
very
important,
but
with
a
fairly
small
space
for
people
to
park.
That
means
that
people
are
going
to
park
distance
a
little
bit
of
a
distance
which
means
they'll
be
walking
to
their
cars
and
which
could
create
more
noise
than
less
noise.
H
Do
you
think
that
you
could
re-look
at
the
security
plan
and
see
if
it's
even
possible,
or
do
you
think
it's
going
to
be?
You
know,
I
know
you
know
we
have
moxie,
which
is
right
next
to
the
village,
and
I
have
actually
been
to
palm
freight
and
I
couldn't
even
talk
over
the
dinner
table.
It
was
so
bad,
that's
not
what
we
want
and
this
club
is
designed
very
differently
than
what
moxie
is.
J
S
Okay,
it's
hard
to
see
so
given
right.
We
have
you
know
moxie
and
village
pub,
and
now
we
have
next
to
bevmo
another
club
going
in,
and
I
do
think
a
lot
of
people
will
park
on
berlardo
and
going
down
those
side
streets.
So
I
do
think
that
will
have
an
impact
not
just
on
the
apartment,
but
on
those
hotels.
S
J
S
I
H
Well,
let
me
withdraw
my
motion
and
because
I
I
do
think
we
need
a
little
more
study
and
I
I
agree.
You
know
I.
I
talked
about
downtown
vibrancy,
which
I
think
is
important,
but
I
also
think
you
know
all
the
issues
that
we've
talked
about
we're
trying
to
kind
of
band-aid
together
and
we
might
need
a
more
comprehensive
look
at
it.
And
so
I
would
suggest
that
we,
unless
people
are
totally
opposed
to
it,
that
my
motion
would
be
to
have
staff
reevaluate.
S
J
B
B
B
I
Council,
I
do
believe
we
can
extend
the
cdbg
without
much
consequence.
The
other
item
that
we
had
for,
let's
see
2c
the
authorizing
use
of
military
equipment.
I
believe,
was
expected
to
be
considered,
if
not
adopted
by
may
1st,
I'm
not
sure
the
actual
consequence
of
kind
of
introducing,
but
perhaps
extending
that
that
item,
if
the,
if
council
simply
wasn't
prepared
to
make
a
final
decision
there
and
then
the
last
item
we
have
on
the
agenda,
3
c,
I
believe,
is
timely
due
to
it
being
involving
pending
legislation.
B
S
I
I
I
believe
we
got
clarification
from
the
city
attorney
that
we
need
to
start
the
process
essentially,
and
I
would
argue
that
placing
it
on
an
agenda
putting
materials
out
to
the
public
constitutes
starting
so
to
the
extent
that
you
want
to
table
that
to
a
future
meeting
or
or
simply
not,
consider
it
this
evening
and
bring
it
back.
I
think
we
could
certainly
argue
that
we've
started
that
process
so.
J
B
B
I
B
E
B
I
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
council
I'll,
introduce
this
one
we're
here
this
evening
to
discuss
ab-2336,
which
is
a
potential
pilot,
speed
safety
program.
So
ultimately,
there's
been
a
bill
introduced
that
would
select
a
number
of
cities
across
the
calif
across
california
to
have
a
pilot
program
where
there
would
be
photographic
traffic
enforcement
devices
installed.
I
The
bill
currently
includes
some
major
cities,
los
angeles,
san
francisco,
oakland
san
jose
glendale,
and
this
would
potentially
include
palm
springs,
which
is
obviously
a
little
different
than
some
of
those
other
cities
mentioned,
which
I
think,
just
in
terms
of
running
a
pilot
offers
value
right
to
kind
of
capture
a
different
community
just
want
to
give
you
a
few
details.
So
you
understand
how
this
is
working.
I
believe
it's
proposed
to
be
a
five-year
program
from
2023
to
2028..
I
I
There
are
some
additional
privacy
protections
in
place,
so,
for
instance,
it
requires
a
public
information
campaign
for
about
30
days
after
activation,
there
would
be
30
additional
days
where
only
warnings
are
issued.
Photos
would
be
targeting
the
rear,
license
plate
and
specific
to
avoid
capturing
footage
through
windows.
It
would
prohibit
any
use
of
facial
recognition
or
anything
like
that
so
no
faces.
I
I
Fines
are
also
reduced
in
the
case
of
lower
income
individuals
who
receive
tickets,
and
then
all
the
fines
collected
are
meant
to
be
put
into
additional
traffic
calming
and
other
things.
So
that's
kind
of
a
snapshot
of
things.
I
would
only
further
emphasize
we've
gone
through
a
lot
in
promoting
legislation
to
lower
speeds,
and-
and
in
so
doing,
we've
acknowledged
that
even
small
variations
and
reductions
in
speed
five
miles
an
hour
can
be
the
difference
in
some
cases
of
life
and
death,
especially
with
a
pedestrian,
a
collision,
bicyclist
or
those
kinds
of
things.
I
I
So
this
is,
I
think,
new
ground
for
california,
but
certainly
not
for
surrounding
states
both
of
the
states.
I've
lived
in
previously
colorado
and
arizona
deploy
these
kinds
of
programs.
I
think
there
is
some
evidence
of
success,
but
this
would
attempt
to
validate
that
that
can
be
an
effective
program
to
reduce
speed.
So
I
know
one
of
the
reasons
that
palm
springs
is
considered
as
one
of
the
last
communities
to
participate
in
this
is
because
our
our
mayor
was
discussing
our
participation
with
the
author
of
this
bill.
B
B
B
B
I
was
present
on
tuesday
afternoon
when
this
bill
was
heard
in
the
assembly,
privacy
and
committee,
which
was
solely
concerned
with
questions
as
to
whether
or
not
this
issue
would
create
any
privacy
concerns.
There
was
a
very
large
number
of
questions
that
came
from
the
members.
Ultimately,
it
was
approved
unanimously
in
in
that
committee.
B
B
So
I
am,
everybody
knows
this
is
passion
of
mine,
but
I
think
what
assembly
member
friedman
did
was
frankly
spend
a
tremendous
amount
of
energy.
Looking
at
how
the
red
light
cameras
were
handled
and
as
she
describes
it,
this
is
the
anti-red
light
camera
bill.
We
have
tried
to
learn
from
all
of
those
lessons.
H
H
H
Ultimately,
first
of
all,
it's
expensive.
I
have
done
this
in
the
past.
It's
expensive
you
have
to
put
in
all
the
equipment.
You've
got
to
hire
your
police.
You've
got
to
train
your
police.
You've
got
to
hire
a
staff
person.
You've
got
to
buy
the
equipment,
you've
got
to
maintain
the
equipment.
It's
got
to
be
calibrated,
it's
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
money
in
a
staff
in
a
police
department
that
we're
short
on
now
and
the
money
that's
collected
from
this
is
supposed
to
be
used
for
traffic
calming.
H
But
yet
I
have
been
asking
to
put
in
the
budgets
coming
up
to
put
money
in
traffic.
Call
me
to
change
the
geometrics
of
our
street,
which
ultimately
will
slow
people
down,
but
to
give
people
tickets
is
not
they'll
know
where
they're
at
and
actually
the
statistics
show
that
the
ones
that
are
fixed
in
place
have
much
less
efficiency
than
the
ones
that
you
move
around.
H
So
if
I'm
speeding
and
I'm
low
income,
I
pay
much
less
right
than
if
I'm
rich
and
I'm
speeding.
It
makes
no
sense.
I
think
it
is.
I
cannot
support
this
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
I
don't
think
it
will
get
us
to
speed
reductions
at
all
and
I
think
it's
a
huge
expense
when
we
can
be
putting
that
money
towards
traffic
calming
which
neighbors
have
been
asking
for.
For
the
longest
period
of
time,
so
my
vote
on
this
will
be
absolutely
no.
S
S
There
won't
be
points
okay
and
that
the
cost
is
all
reimbursed
to
the
city
for
money
for
traffic
coming
correct,
correct,
so
there's
no
actual
city
cost
to
this.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
clarified,
because
that
was
my
reading
staff
report
and
from
at
least
my
reading,
I'm
actually
fine,
I'm
just
a
different
view
than
councilmember
woods
on
this
with
people
who
are
lower
income
shouldn't.
S
You
know
there
is
a
difference
when
the
percentage
of
your
of
your
daily
paycheck
that
pays
the
exact
same
fine
versus
so
having
lower
rates
when
the
impact
for
fines,
I
think,
is
not
an
unreasonable
thing
by
any
means.
So
I
I'm
inclined
to
support
this.
I
appreciate
your
work
on
this
mayor
middleton.
I
think
a
pilot
project
in
one
small
city
that
heavily
relies
on
visitors
is
very
different
than
the
other
cities
and
I
think,
would
be
really
helpful
and
just
reading
all
the
studies.
S
G
G
B
I
So
I'm
I'm
trying
to
look
through
the
actual
bill
and
the
in
the
financial
impact
for
the
staff
report.
We
did
indicate
that
there
could
be
some
costs
associated
with
insulation
even
to
the
extent
some
of
the
hard
costs
are
reimbursed
unless
there's
also
reimbursements
for
some
of
the
soft
cost
personnel.
I
It
may
take
some
additional
costs
to
operate
the
program.
I'm
going
to
look
to
see
if
I
can
get
some
greater
clarification
on
what
might
be
reimbursed
or
what
might
not
and
then
bear
in
mind
if
we
do
need
personnel,
I
think
we
probably
wouldn't
want
to
dedicate
existing
personnel.
We
may
want
to
request
additional
personnel,
although
we
would
also
probably
acknowledge-
and
the
police
chief
could
elaborate
that
often
times
it's
the
case-
that
our
officers
are
deployed
in
such
a
way
that
they
don't
get
to
dedicate
significant
time
to
traffic
enforcement.
I
Let
me
approach
him.
Okay,
thank
you
thanks
for
those
clarifications,
and
it
was
a
long
staff
report
there's
a
lot
of
information
here
traffic
is
is,
is
definitely
a
big
issue
for
a
lot
of
people
in
palm
springs.
There's
a
lot
of
speeding
and,
and
so
much
of
it
does
come
from
what
councilmember
woods
is
saying,
and
we
have
these
really
wide
streets,
and
they
just
beg
you
to
speed
on
them
practically.
So
we
do
need
to
do
those
types
of
traffic.
I
Calming
excuse
me
measures
and
that
he
was
mentioning,
but
this
also
with
the
privacy
issues
that
being
addressed
with
the
needs
of
low-income
people
being
addressed.
It
seems
like
a
worthwhile
pilot
program
to
participate
in,
and
it
is
a
pilot
program
right.
We
we
don't
have
to
continue
to
do
this
if
it's
not
working
for
us,
so
with
the
cost
being
limited
because
of
the
legislature's
commitment,
I'm
I'm
willing
to
give
it
a
try.
I
I
I
So
I
I
don't
think
you
know
I
you
know
using
tools
like
this.
I
don't
think
is
a
a
good
or
a
bad
thing,
but
this
is
a
I
believe.
It's
a
five-year
program
we're
committing
ourselves
to
and
it
does
take
some
administration
and
many
times.
You'll
hire
a
third
party
to
do
that
and
that
third
party
many
times
has
a
financial
interest
in
the
whole
process.
I
So
I
just
don't
it's
not
that
I'm
for
or
against
this
I
just
don't
know
if
palm
springs
should
be
a
pilot.
You
know
other
cities
that
are
having
big
problems,
which
is
in
the
literature.
I
don't
know.
If
that's
us,
I
don't
know
if
we
have
to
be
the
pilot
and
burden
the
cost
of
that,
maybe
we
could
be
the
beneficiary.
I
After
all,
the
work
is
done
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
stuff
done
on
a
national
level
on
this,
but
not
in
california.
So
much
necessarily,
I
would
prefer
to
be
a
beneficiary
and
use
our
money
to
improve
our
streets.
So
I
think
my
point
is
clear:
thanks
all
right
and
council,
if
I
could,
on
page
3
item
3c
dash
9
letter
k
does
seem
to
indicate
use,
use
revenues
from
the
speed
safety
system
to
recover
program
costs,
comma,
build
traffic
calming
etc.
I
I
I
I
am
concerned
about
what
the
total
it's
hard
to
approve
something
without
knowing
what
the
total
cost
to
the
city
will
be
and
implementation
and
what
their
recovery
will
look
like
it's
a
pilot,
so
you
know
we
might
not
have
that
data,
but
at
least
some
analysis
from
the
police
department
would
be
helpful
to
know
that
we
have
the
bandwidth
to
do
this
within
our
department.
So
can
you
explain
how
you
might
bring
that
back?
I
I
I
think
there
will
be
a
motion
and
there'll
be
council
support.
Majority
from
participating
in
the
pilot,
but
my
question
is:
if
the
bill
is
passed
and
signed
into
law,
what
would
be
the
next
steps
of
what
would
come
in
front
of
city
council
to
approve
the
cost
allocation
to
have
palm
springs?
Police
department
assess
the
budget
implications
and
the
required
staffing?
I
I
We
might
need
council
approval
for
certain
kinds
of
procurement,
but
even
if
that
weren't
necessary,
if
it
were
council's
preference,
to
evaluate
the
program
that
we
bring
it
back
and
with
an
estimated
total
cost,
you
know
there's
also
some
ambiguity,
as
I
understand
it,
it
says
not
more
than
15
of
the
streets.
Well,
you
know.
What
exactly
does
that
mean?
We
may
have
an
opportunity
to
scale
that
if
that's
a
maximum
and
there
isn't
a
minimum.
I
So
if
it's
your
desire,
we
could
simply
bring
it
back
in
total
and
say
this
is
what
we
think
we
need
in
terms
of
hard
costs
for
equipment
personnel,
and
then
we
could
evaluate,
as
the
pilot
rolls
out
and
and
tickets
are
ultimately
issued.
We
could
also
report
back
on
on
how
effective
it
is
at
offsetting
costs.
Thank
you.
I
would
support
that
process.
I
All
right,
so
I'll
make
the
motion
to
approve
I'll.
Second
roll
call.
Please
can
I
ask
for
point
of
clarification.
I
think
there's
two
things
we're
looking
at
doing
here
in
in
the
motion,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
one
is
to
approve
participation
in
the
pilot
program,
which
I
believe
is
five
years,
and
the
second
one
is
to
write
a
letter
of
support.
Is
that
correct?
I
I
I
Thank
you
to
the
mayor
for
advocating
to
include
a
city
like
palm
springs,
because
these
are
much
larger
cities
where
maybe
the
cost
is
so
is
marginal
for
their
city
budgets
or
for
their
police
departments
and
then,
but
it's
really
important
to
address
pedestrian
safety
and
and
public
safety
on
the
roads
in
cities
like
palm
springs
that
are
not
just
those
urban
large
cities
that
frequently
get
more
state
attention.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
forward
so
yeah.
I
would.
I
I
I
So
council,
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
the
next
few
meetings.
We
do
have
the
future
meetings
document,
but
it's
pretty
simple.
In
this
case
we
have
two
meetings
potentially
scheduled
for
budget
study
sessions,
so
just
to
prepare
everyone.
This
is
the
start
of
what
will
turn
out
to
be
a
four
week
in
a
row.
We'll
have
a
council
meeting
just
the
way
the
schedule
worked
out
with
study
sessions
next
to
april
25th,
which
is
next
monday.
I
Materials
went
out
this
evening
kind
of
summarizing.
Some
of
the
budget
discussion
we'll
have
may
4th
is
really
meant
to
be
the
extension
of
that
conversation.
So
we'll
see
how
much
we
get
done
on
the
25th
and
it's
it's
possible
that
that
may
four
session
may
not
be
necessary
and
that
our
remaining
budget
conversation
could
be
incorporated
into
regular
meetings.
If
not
we'll
have
those
two
and
then
the
12th,
which
was
a
little
light
on
items,
is
no
longer
light
on
items
because
we're
carrying
over
a
number
of
things
from
this
evening.
I
So
that
really
takes
us
through
the
next
few
meetings.
May
26
is
a
little
far
out
at
this
point.
We've
seen
changes
are
pretty
common
even
for
the
meeting
immediately
in
front
of
us.
So
I
would
encourage
you
not
to
look
too
closely
at
that
date.
That
is
likely
to
change
between
now
and
then
happy
to
take
any
direction
from
council
any
further
direction.
I
I
We
have
a
number
of
individuals
who
are
very
active
in
that
movement
and
a
very
close
friend
of
one
of
our
planning
commissioners
was
killed
by
a
hit-and-run
cyclist
not
long
ago,
and
so
it's
just
simply
going
to
be
a
very.
I
don't
think
it
will
actually
take
10
minutes,
but
it
will
be
an
opportunity
for
the
cycling
community
to
come
in
and
make
note
of
when
their
events
going
to
take
place
on
may
18,
as
well
as
give
an
opportunity
not
only
for
cyclists
but
for
others
to
be
supportive.
I
Last
week
we
bought
land
here
in
palm
springs,
and
I
don't
think
anybody
even
knows
about
it,
and
I
don't
want
to
regurgitate
it
and
it's
best
to
come
from
somebody
on
that
staff,
if
that's
okay
on
their
staff
and
we'd
have
to
coordinate
that
with
them.
So
I
haven't
done
that
coordination
work.
Yet
it's
okay
with
everyone.