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From YouTube: Historic Site Preservation Board | Nov 22 2022
Description
Regular meeting of the City of Palm Springs HSPB, held November 22nd, 2022
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So
next
is
time
that
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Historic,
Site
preservation
board
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
subject
matter
of
the
jurisdiction
of
the
board.
Although
the
Historic
Site
preservation
board
values
your
comments,
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
is
General.
It
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
any
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
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B
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B
F
Thank
you
for
the
introduction.
Ken
I
am
excited
to
be
here,
hello
board.
My
name
is
Sarah
Yoon
I
am
just
a
brief
introduction
about
myself.
I'm
a
Colorado
Native
I
was
working
in
Colorado
in
the
City
of
Aspen
for
the
past
five
years
as
their
historic
preservation.
Planner
I
just
moved
into
the
area,
so
I'm
just
getting
familiar
with
Palm
Springs
and
apparently
I
came
at
the
best
time.
The
weather
has
been
lovely
where
it
is
snowing
in
Aspen
and
a
little
bit
about
my
background.
I.
F
I
have
a
an
interest,
I
would
say
in
mid-century
modern
architecture.
That
is
actually
what
I
wrote
my
thesis
on
when
I
was
in
New
York,
and
so
it
is
a
very
exciting
topic
for
me
and
of
course,
there's
no
other
place
that
has
the
most
the
most
amazing
inventory
of
mid-century,
modern
architectures
in
Palm,
Springs
and
so
I'm
excited
to
be
here.
A
Good
and
thank
you
and
and
welcome
to
you,
we
look
forward
to
to
meeting
you
in
person
and
and
and
speaking
with
you,
you
have
an
amazing
education,
very
well-rounded
and
and
varied,
which
is
good
and
I'm
a
I'm,
a
native
Coloradan.
So
we
have
that
in
common
to
begin
with,
so
so
we'll
talk,
Coloradan
someday
sounds
good.
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C
I
I,
don't
have
any
questions
for
you,
Sarah
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
hearty
welcome.
Also
on
my
behalf.
It's
it
really
is
going
to
be
great
to
have
you
here
and,
as
everyone
has
said,
Ken
is
I'm
sure
he's
beside
himself,
even
though
you
know
can
be
training
in
a
new
person.
Also
is,
you
know,
can
can
take
a
bit
of
time,
but
it
definitely
sounds
like
you're
pretty
well
fitted
for
this
position
so
glad
you're
here.
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B
With
pleasure,
I
want
to
introduce
to
the
board
Patty
Garcia
Patty
is
the
tribal
historic
preservation
officer
and
Patty
and
I
have
fairly
long,
but
somewhat.
You
know,
hands-length
relationship
in
working
in
preservation
here
in
the
city,
Patty's,
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
how
the
thpos
role
differs
from
that
which
Sarah
is
soon
to
step
into
and
that
I
am
handing
off
the
Baton
on
one
thing:
that
I
will
just
do
as
a
quick
intro
for
Patty
and
Patty
I'll.
B
Let
you
kind
of
give
them
your
background
as
well,
but,
as
you
know,
the
city's
historic
preservation
ordinance
was
updated
comprehensively
in
2019
and
again
in
2020,
and
at
that
time
we
formalized
in
the
ordinance
the
relationship
and
the
separation
of
responsibilities
and
duties
between
the
tribal
historic
preservation
officer
and
the
city's
historic
preservation
officer.
So
typically,
what
that's
meant?
B
What
that
has
meant
in
the
last
couple
of
years
is
primarily
when
applications
come
into
the
city
I
forward
them
usually
in
in
bunches
to
Patty,
but
when
there
are
applications
that
are
on
the
reservation
that
are
allotted
land
or
tribal
trust,
land.
Those
are
handled
exclusively
by
Patty's
Patty
and
her
staff,
and
we
also
keep
a
Communications
going
in
terms
of
some.
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G
B
G
G
Okay,
can
you
see
the
slide
okay,
so
my
name
is
Patty
garcian,
the
director
of
historic
preservation
for
the
Agua
Caliente
band
at
Queen,
Indians
and
I've,
been
here
for
16
years.
I
am
not
a
member
I
am
staff
and
I
played
two
different
roles
in
this
department.
The
first
two
years
that
I
worked
here.
G
And
I
want
to
welcome
you
to
the
Agua,
Caliente,
Indian
reservation
and
here
representing
the
tribal
members
I'm
also
here
and
representing
the
ancestors
and
all
the
resources
that
are
on
the
lands,
the
traditional
homelands
of
the
kawea,
which
encompasses
over
4
million
acres.
And
in
this
slide
there
are
some
historic
photos
of
different
tribal
members
and
Gatherings
and
then
also
there's
a
collection
of
photos
from
our
current
Tribal
Council.
G
Diablo
Caliente
Indian
reservation
is
about
3
31,
500
acres
and
there
are
different
overlapping
jurisdictions
that
makes
historic
preservation
and
other
business
within
the
reservation
quite
complicated.
But
this
map
here
shows
you
the
traditional
M
use
area.
Those
are
the
traditional
homelands
of
all
the
Korea
and
there
are
nine
Korea
tribes.
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It's
depicted
here
in
the
brick
color
on
the
map,
so
you'll
see
that
there's
a
variety
of
different
reservations
and
other
landscape
features
within
the
area
on
the
left
is
a
map
that
shows
overlapping
jurisdiction
with
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs
Cathedral
City
in
Rancho
Mirage.
The
reservation
is
depicted
in
green
and
the
reason
that
the
the
reservations
here
in
the
Coachella
Valley
are
checkerboarded
is
because
of
the
installation
of
the
railroad
in
the
1800s.
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The
United
States
government
has
allocated
every
other
section
along
the
railroad
route
for
development
of
the
railroad
and
then
on.
The
right
is
a
map
of
the
the
tribe's
reservation,
with
the
different
land
status.
There's
tribal
trust,
land,
that's
depicted
in
the
brighter
blue,
there's
land,
that's
owned
by
the
tribe.
G
That's
not
yet
in
trust
in
the
lighter
blue
there's
allotted
lands
and
then
there's
allotted
in
lace,
lands
allotted
are
pink
allotted
and
least
are
yellow
and
then
some
lands
that
were
laotted
have
been
transferred
out
of
trust
in
our
feed
lands
and
those
are
depicted
in
green.
However,
all
lands
are
subject
to
jurisdiction
of
the
tempo
for
historic
preservation
purposes.
G
Our
office
has
developed
a
series
of
documents
to
assist
us
in
our
historic
preservation
process.
We
have
a
formal
research,
design
and
historic
preservation
management
plan
that
are
written
from
the
theoretical
orientation
of
indigenous
archeology
and
that
places
historic
preservation
and
the
framework
of
what
how
we
approach
historic
preservation
from
an
indigenous
world
view,
which
is
different
than
a
western
world
view.
We
take
all
of
the
tribes
tribal
members
into
consideration
when
we're
approaching
the
work
that
we
do
and
we've
worked
with.
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G
This
is
a
rendition
of
the
buildings
they're
standing
now,
but
they're
not
quite
completed
yet
and
they're
slated
to
be
open,
I
think
in
Spring
of
next
year
during
construction
grading,
our
cultural
resource
monitors
for
observing
construction
grading
activities
and
our
monitors
found
deeply
buried,
untact
cultural
deposit,
which
indicated
that
it
had
not
been
Disturbed
during
the
previous
construction
of
the
1950s
spa
and
hotel.
That
was
there
in
former
Years
you'll
see
one
of
our
cultural
monitors.
Roman
Dominguez
there
walking
along
the
cut
line.
He
discovered
one
of
the
first
buried
deposits.
G
This
is
12
feet
below
modern
Road
surface,
so
they
had
cut
down
12
feet
below
and
then
in
the
top
picture
on
the
right,
you'll
see
that
there
are
two
locusts
Locus
one
and
two
and
those
were
both
got
down
to
about
12
feet
when
they
both
noticed
that
they
were
cultural
deposit
in
those
areas.
We
ended
up
doing
testing
and
working
with
tribal
membership.
You'll
see
our
former
tribal
chairman
Jeff
groupie,
with
his
family.
G
Looking
at
the
different
testing
areas
that
we
were
investigating,
we
ended
up
doing
a
large-scale
massive
excavation
that
took
over
four
months.
We
had
to
help
the
construction
process
for
that
long
time,
and
you
know
that
means
a
lot
of
money
for
a
developer,
and
in
this
case
our
client
was
the
tribe,
and
so
we
had
a
lot
of
work
in
convincing
to
do.
But
the
tribe
is
very
enthusiastic
about
their
culture
and
working
with
our
office
on
historic
preservation
matters
so
you'll
see
we
did
investigation
of
two
different
areas.
G
G
We
identified
areas
of
investigation
that
were
going
to
be
impacted
by
the
new
Museum
and
the
new
spa
and
we
decided
to
do
a
full-scale
excavation
with
approval
by
Tribal,
Council
and
you'll,
see
that
there's
msus
they're
they're
units
that
were
defined
four
by
four
meter
units
and
they
were
excavated
by
a
machine
and
then
screened
through
this,
a
screening
machine
that
is
used
for
siphoning
out
larger
Boulders
from
smaller
Boulders.
But
we
fitted
it
with
a
very
small
screen
that
you
would
typically
do
by
hand
for
an
archaeologist.
G
So
here's
some
of
the
Machinery
that
we
used
there
was
a
Gradle
that
was
used.
It's
the
I
believe
that
XL
5200
and
then
you'll
see
that
the
archaeologists
that
we
hired,
along
with
our
staff
and
tribal
members
that
were
working
in
the
field,
hand
Excavating
features
that
were
identified
during
the
large-scale
excavation.
G
This
is
the
washing
station
where,
after
the
material
was
screened,
we
hand
washed
everything
with
larger
water
hoses
and
an
area
that
was
away
from
the
construction,
but
within
the
project
boundaries,
and
we
have
our
idea
of
archaeologists
and
tribal
members
and
staff
that
worked
on
this
effort
to
recover
as
many
artifacts
as
possible.
We
recovered
over
3
000
artifacts
from
the
site
and
they
varied
from
ground
ground.
Stone
matates
like
these
large
matate
slabs
that
were
used
for
processing
indigenous
foods
such
as
Mesquite,
scrooping
or
Acorn.
G
We
were
able
to
find
very
fragile
objects
during
the
excavation,
even
though
we
were
using
these
large
machines
and
everything
was
washed
and
the
washing
screens
and
handled
with,
rocks
and
you'd
be
surprised
what
you
can
recover
with
this
type
of
excavation,
there's
also
large
by
faces
that
were
made
out
of
chalcedony
and
shirts
quartz.
We
have
some
shell
objects,
I
believe
that
those
are
pendants
and
then
there's
a
very
large
Abalone
dependent
on
the
far
left.
G
Like
I
said,
we
did
some
of
the
analysis
in
the
lab
with
the
statistical
research
that
was
the
Consulting
archaeologist
and
here
are
tribal
members
from
our
historic
preservation
board
during
that
year.
That
conducted
the
protein
residue
analysis
with
the
board
and
with
tippo
staff,
along
with
the
archaeologists,
creating
a
very
Dynamic
work
environment
and
allowed
to
hand
over
sovereignty
and
ownership
of
the
actual
work
that
was
done
to
our
members
and
to
Tribal,
Council
and
John.
G
G
G
Another
picture
of
our
collaborative
efforts,
kind
of
talking
over
the
work
that
we
did
and
thoughts
that
we
had.
While
we
were
doing
that
which
is
important
part
of
the
reciprocal
relationship
that
we
have
with
members
with
the
staff
and
with
our
Consulting
archaeologists
and
that's
just
a
little
brief
overview
of
some
of
the
work
that
we
do
in
our
office.
A
C
C
G
The
radiocarbon
dating
is
about
8
600
years
ago,
so
it's
the
oldest
site
in
the
Coachella
Valley.
Now
there's
one
other
site.
Well,
there's
like
two
or
three
other
sites
inside
the
California
about
that
old
one
is
located
in
Lake
Elsinore
and
then
there's
a
few
on
the
coast
in
Orange,
County
and
I
believe
one
in
there
too,
in
San
Diego,
and
so
this
is
really
changing.
G
The
time
scale
for
occupation
of
the
Korea
in
this
area,
there's
been
a
variety
of
different
viewpoints
on
time
and
the
longevity
of
tribes
and
some
different
theorizing
on
when
different
tribes
occupy
different
areas.
But
as
far
as
the
Korea
and
the
avocaliente
are
concerned,
they've
been
here
since
time
immemorial
and
I
believe
that
this
information,
this
site,
really
bolsters
and
supports
the
traditional
belief
that
they
have
that
exists
in
their
oral
histories
and
we're
really
proud
of
the
work
that
we
did
and
we're
really
excited
to
learn
more
about
the
site.
G
B
G
B
G
Right
so
there
is
a
there
is
a.
There
are
a
few
different,
a
few
different
known
cemeteries
within
the
Palm
Springs
area.
Traditionally
the
cuyad
cremated
their
deceased,
and
then
there
were
a
variety
of
different
ceremonies
that
were
performed,
and
so
there
was
a
actually
a
funeral
prior
fight
like
a
large
fire
where
the
remains
were
burned
and
then
they
would
be
reburied
or
buried
somewhere
nearby
or
in
another
location,
and
there's
also
death
ride
ceremonies.
G
And
then
there
are
ceremonies
that
occur
after
one
year
of
death
and
some
of
those
ceremonies
are
continued
into
current
times.
Each
family
participates
or
conducts
ceremonies
as
they
see
fit.
So
you
know
some
people
think
that
traditional
culture
is
no
longer,
but
that's
not
true.
It
continues
to
this
day,
and
so
the
the
cemetery
that
you're
speaking
of
is
a
historic
Cemetery.
G
We
we
actually
the
tribe,
does
own
that
property.
Again,
there
was
a
land
agreement,
I
think
between
this
city
and
the
tribe,
a
while
back
and
the
land
was
either
purchased
or
transferred
to
the
tribe
and
that's
being
preserved,
and
it's
in
a
undisclosed
location.
But
it
is
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
so
yeah
the
tribe
really
wants
to
protect
their
culture,
history
and
their
ancestral
remains.
G
Right
so,
under
our
agreement
with
the
National
Park
Service
for
the
historic
preservation
office,
designation,
which
the
tribe
received
in
2005.
each
tribe,
who
has
Federal
Federal
recognition,
can
apply
for
that
designation
through
the
National
Park
Service
and
during
that
they
decide
which
responsibilities
they
want
to
take
over
from
the
state,
historic
preservation
officer,
and
that's
all
indicated
in
the
application
and
the
agreement
document
between
the
tribe
and
the
National
Park
Service.
G
So
one
of
the
responsibilities
typically
taken
and
when
the
Agua
Caliente
assumed
was
the
designation
for
the
review
for
the
national
register
properties.
On
the
reservation,
there
are
two
historic
or
prehistoric
sites
on
the
reservation
that
are
on
the
national
register
and
that's
talk,
wish
National
register
District,
it's
an
archaeological
district
and
it's
open
to
the
public
can
go
and
visit
it.
There's
a
waterfall
there's
a
trail.
You
could
take
a
guided
tour
on
the
trail
and
you
can
learn
a
lot
about
the
tribes
prehistory
and
history
there
and
then.
G
The
second
is
the
Andreas
Canyon
National
register
District
in
Indian
canyons,
and
you
can
take
a
tour
there
as
well
and
there's
several
Canyons
that
you
can
go.
Andreas
is
the
longest
continually
occupied
Korea
Village
into
historic
time
when
the
men
had
to
relocate
to
San,
Bernardino
County,
to
get
work
and
some
of
them
went
off
to
war,
and
then
they
move
back
later
on.
After
that
period
of
time,
we
do
review
any
applications
to
the
National
register.
G
So
if
somebody
wants
to
or
plans
to
nominate
a
property,
if
it's
on
the
reservation,
regardless
of
land
status,
we
do
the
review,
not
the
city.
So
even
if
it's
the
land
and
it's
on
the
reservation,
the
application
would
come
to
our
office.
If
somebody
isn't
aware
that
their
property
is
on
the
reservation,
which
is
fairly
common,
they
may
submit
their
application
to
Canada
the
city,
but
then
he'll
forward
it
on
to
us
and
we'll
have
a
chat
with
the
landowner.
But
we
review
the
applications
the
same
way
as
the
city
or
shippo.
G
Would
we
have
a
Consulting
architectural
historian
that
we
have
contracted
and
if
we
have
any
concerns
or
issues
or
properties
that
we're
not
familiar
with
we'll
work
with
them
to
make
sure
that
the
properties
are
reviewed
properly
and
that
we
understand
what
the
context
is
and
also
if
the
properties
actually
meet
the
criteria?
Sometimes
it's
really
obvious
right
away
if
something
doesn't
meet
criteria
but,
like
I,
said
I'm,
not
an
architectural
historian,
and
so
I
have
to
work
with
a
consultant
to
assist
me
with
that.
G
G
It
was
one
of
them
and
what's
interesting,
is
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
understand
that
the
airport
is
on
the
reservation,
and
so
it's
not
kind
of
a
surprise
when
people
find
find
out.
I
always
thought
that
the
airport
should
be
called
the
Agua
Caliente
Airport
International
Airport
I
thought.
That
was
a
really
good
idea.
G
Right
I
think
that
might
be
a
good
idea.
It's
a
great
airport,
the
architecture
is
beautiful
and
when
you,
when
you
get
off
the
off
your
airplane
and
you
walk
out
the
front
door
and
you
see
how
beautiful
the
Landscaping
is
and
then
we
see
the
beautiful
mountains
there,
there's
no
other
airport
like
it.
It's
great
I
love.
It.
B
D
B
Always
appreciated
the
relationship
with
you
and
I'm
sure
that
moving
forward
with
Sarah,
you
guys
can
enrich
that
relationship
further,
as
well
as
I
think.
This
is
a
great
opportunity
for
our
Historic
Site
preservation
board
to
get
a
little
snippet
and
just
a
little
quick
Glimpse
at
how
the
two
offices
actually
do
many
things
differently,
but
also
where
we
do
have
crossover
and
interrelationships
because
of
the
land
use
agreements
between
the
tribe
and
the
city.
B
B
A
You
thank
you.
Thank
you,
Patty.
Well,
it's
delightful
to
have
time
at
these
meetings
to
to
learn.
You
know
what
what's
happening
in
our
community
from
from
other
other
members,
such
as
the
the
tribe,
and
so
that
was
really
delightful.
I
really
enjoyed
that.
So
thank
you,
Ken
for
arranging
that
you're.
A
A
D
B
D
And
then
also
on
page
two
of
the
minutes,
this
is
on
a
section
that
I
wasn't
a
part
of,
but
it's
just
purely
a
typo
in
the
very
middle
of
the
page,
the
paragraph
starting
with
member
Rosa.
Now
there's
a
typo
in
the
fourth
line
down
Rosenau
asked
if
the
applicant
intends
to
pursue
so
that
the
word
to
should
be
removed.
D
And
then,
on
that
same
one,
the
same
item
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
I
think-
and
this
is
maybe
a
question
for
Ken
or
Christopher.
It
notes
me
as
abstaining
on
the
vote,
but
I
think
it
probably
would
be
more
properly
stated
that
I
was
I
recused
on
the
vote,
because
I
I
wasn't
there
so
I,
don't
know
if
abstain
is
the
right
word.
B
D
A
A
C
C
So
we
have
a
great
lineup
of
I
think
about
12
to
14
presentations
at
this
point
on
the
topics
of
water
and
tourism,
sometimes
interpreted
broadly,
but
always
creatively,
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
two-day
session
and
we're
just
working
away
on.
You
know
getting
the
speakers
lined
up
and
then
the
background
work
going
on
in
terms
of
lining
up
the
convention
center
and
I.
Don't
know
if
Catherine
did
you
have
anything
else,
cheer
Huff
too.
A
C
Guess
maybe
one
other
thing
I
did
didn't
mention
last
time
we
do
are
going
to
pursue
some
sponsorships
this
year,
which
is
a
new
thing
and
so
I.
Just
you
know,
Ken
was
going
to
confirm
a
few
things.
Mr
line
with
regard
to
you
know
just
the
mechanics,
since
it's
a
city
event
of
how
these
donations
or
sponsorships
would
would
go
and
I
would
assume,
maybe
over
the
next
year
or
so
and
even
for
the
year
after
you
know,
we'll
probably
get
a
process
going.
C
B
And
just
briefly,
to
elaborate
on
that,
the
way
we're
going
to
handle
it
this
year
is
because
the
city
has
special
relationships
with
the
convention
center
on
pricing
and
things
like
that.
The
sponsorships
will
be
written
to
the
city,
and
then
the
city
will
pay
the
bills
directly
to
the
Convention
Center.
C
B
C
A
A
B
E
So
there
are
just
a
few
logistical
issues
to
to
discuss
surrounding
that.
So
if
the
board
were
to
to
want
to
do
that
again,
then
the
question
is:
do
we
want
to
go
back
to
fully
in-person
meetings
or
do
hybrid
meetings
to
allow
people
some
people
to
participate
remotely,
because
that
sort
of
dictates
the
technology
that
goes
behind
the
meeting
so
I
think
in
the
next
week,
or
so
we'll
have
a
little
bit
of
clarity
on
that.
E
But
I
would
say
that
probably
I'm
not
sure
that
we'll
get
quite
organized
for
the
December
meeting,
but
we
could
look
at
restarting
in-person
meetings
at
the
January
meeting
at
the
board
so
wished
to
do
so,
and
so
perhaps
that
could
be
a
discussion
item
at
the
December
meeting
so
that
we
can
put
the
wheels
in
motion
to
make
that
happen.
For
January,
if
you
wish
to
do
so,
it's
not
going
to
be
mandatory,
so
it
is
at
this
point
at
the
discretion
of
each
boarding.
Commission.
C
A
B
But
I
think
it
would
help
the
process
and
reduce
some
of
the
red
marking
that
I
have
to
do
on
preliminary
reports
so
that
we
can
get
these
reports
to
align
more
closely
with
our
criteria
so
that
when
we
do
the
analysis
at
the
staff
level
and
the
board
reviews
these
applications,
they're
they're
able
to
better
relate
them
to
our
own
ordinance.
So
that's
something
I
kind
of
have
as
a
to-do
list
in
the
back
of
the
rest
of
my
to-do
lists.