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From YouTube: Library Board Meeting | May 19 2022
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The City of Palm Springs Library Board of Trustees Meeting, held May 19th, 2022
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They
also
have
their
annual
meeting
on
sunday
may
1st
they
had
about
80
people
attend
with
author
stephen
rowley
there.
He
was
a
great
speaker
and
they
got
a
really
good
response
there.
They
sold
some
of
his
books
at
the
event
as
well,
and
they
did
a
raffle.
So
they
were
able
to
raise
some
funds
at
the
event
and
had
a
good
annual
meeting.
They
are,
they
were
dark
in
may,
but
they
will
be
meeting
again
in
june,
where
they'll
be
electing
officers
nancy.
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Also,
let
us
know
that
they
have
two
long-term
board
members
that
have
turned
out
and
are
leaving
the
board.
One
is
richard
ellis:
who
was
the
vice
president
and
also
was
the
main
person
in
charge
of
book
sales,
so
he's
been
training
lots
of
different
volunteers
and
he
he
clearly
told
the
board
that,
although
he's
not
going
to
continue
on
the
board,
he
is
going
to
continue
he's
not
leaving
he's
going
to
continue
being
involved
in
the
book
sales.
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So
that's
great
news
and
then
the
other
was
chris
seidel
who
was
past.
President
he's
been
on
the
board
for
many
years
and
again
he
said
he's
not
going
anywhere
that
he'll
still
be
involved
with
the
friends
he's
just
not
going
to
be
serving
on
the
board
anymore.
So
the
friends
are
interviewing.
Some
new
board
candidates
and,
like
I
said,
they'll,
be
electing
officers
at
their
june
meeting.
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Met
with
the
kitchen,
so
the
family,
fun
fest
was
a
huge
success
for
us.
So
all
the
organizations
who
participated
and
all
the
people
who
came
out
and
attended
and
my
staff
we
had
such
a
great
time.
We
had
over
500
people
at
10
and
about
30
organizations
who
set
up
their
booths
at
the
palm
springs
baseball
stadium
next
door.
So
we've
been
on
hiatus
for
two
years
because
of
the
pandemic,
so
we're
happy
to
be
back.
It
was
a
great
event.
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Summer
reading
is
coming
and
it
starts
june
6th
and
it
runs
through
july
16th.
It's
open
to
all
ages.
It's
a
six
week
program
for
children
and
teens
for
every
week
that
you
check
in
you
get
a
free
book.
So
there's
there.
We
want
you
to
read
and
record
your
reading,
but
we
want
people
to
have
books
and
especially
children,
and
so
as
adults
you
come
in
and
you'll
get
a
book
voucher,
which
is
good
for
a
free
book
in
our
used
book
sale
with
the
friends.
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Reading
we're
going
to
have
in
person
programs
in
the
library
we're
just
going
to
have
a
great
time
and
we've
got
lots
of
things.
The
program.
The
theme
is
read
beyond
the
beaten
path
and
it's
we're
taking
a
camping
theme
to
our
program.
So
grand
prize
you
could
win
a
tent.
You
could
win
an
annual
for
adults.
You
can
win
a
tent.
You
can
win
an
annual
pass
to
the
tram.
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Who
they
did
help
us
buy
the
books,
but
we've
still
got
leftover
books
and
then
we
did
have
to
do
a
small
order
this
year
to
kind
of
balance
out
the
grades,
because
we
give
grade
level
specific
books
for
the
children,
and
so
we
had
to
order
a
few
of
certain
grades
and
so
the
friends
friends
paid
for
those.
So
we
skipped
the
grant
application
this
year
for
them.
But
that's
a
good
question.
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That's
my
response
right
there,
I'm
so
happy
and
she
comes
from
san
diego
and
so
it's
going
to
be
a
great
fit
for
palm
springs
and
we
look
forward
to
her
starting
her
new
job.
The
library
is
an
election
voter
assistance
center
starting
june
4th
so
june,
4th
through
june
7th.
You
can
come
to
the
library.
There
are
other
locations
around
town
and
around
the
county.
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B
I
encourage
you
to
look
at
that.
You
can
drop
off
your
ballots
now
at
city
hall
and
james
o
jesse
desert
highland
unity
center
and
then
towards
the
end
of
may
to
move
community
center,
we'll
have
a
drop-off
location
and
voter
assistance
center.
Also,
so
just
ask
if
you
need
help
with
that,
we
will
be
closed
for
memorial
day
may
30th.
We
will
be
closed
to
celebrate
juneteenth
on
june
20th
and
we
will
be
closed
on
july
4th
to
celebrate
independence
day.
I
want
to
let
you
know
about
those
holidays.
B
The
library
will
be
closed.
I
don't
know
if
I
mentioned
this
in
the
past,
but
we
have
received
a
grant
for
zip
books.
Did
I
tell
you
about
zip
books?
I
might
have
we
received
a
ten
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
california
state
library
and
zip
books
is
kind
of
an
alternative
to
interlibrary
loan.
It
speeds
up
the
process
and
gets
the
items
directly
to
the
people
without
a
lot
of
intervention.
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So
we
have
a
form,
a
link
on
our
website
palm
springs,
dot,
org
and
you
can
go
to
the
zip
books
page
and
fill
in
an
application.
This.
The
scenario
is:
if
it's
for
books
and
audio
books
on
cd,
we
have
to
not
own
the
item
or
it
can't
be
on
order
and
we'll
check
we'll
make
sure.
If,
if
we
own
or
not,
we
only
have
about
three
thousand
dollars
left
and
the
grant
program
ends
june
30th.
So
either
we'll
run
out
of
money
or
the
program
will
end
june
30th.
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But
we
are,
we
ordered
the
books
and
they're
sent
amazon
prime
to
your
house,
so
you'll
get
them
in
two
or
three
days
and
then
you
read
the
book
and
then
return
it
to
us
and
we'll
add
it
to
the
library
collection.
So
it's
a
lot
of
fun.
We've
ordered
over
200
books
so
far
and
encouraged
people
to
participate
in
that
program.
B
They
will
have
a
a
joint
meeting
with
all
of
the
boards
and
commissions
and
city
council
at
the
convention
center
and
I'm
sure
more
information
will
be
made
publicly
available
when
it
gets
closer
to
that
date.
But
I
want
you
to
save
the
date
please
because
they
want
to
talk
about
boards
and
commissions
with
our
boards
and
commissioners.
B
C
B
It
is
it's:
it's
still
like
reading
a
foreign
language,
sometimes,
but
making
better
headways
and
understanding
it,
and
it
is
really
a
good
system
and
it
looks
like
it
looks
like
the
finance
department's
doing
a
good
job
of
recording
our
transactions
in
a
timely
manner.
Yeah.
We
we're
doing
we're
doing
great.
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A
So
addendum
agenda
item
7a
is
the
annual
reported
discussion
around
the
foundation
and
I
think
that
we
currently
have
david
sidley,
the
president
and
bill
wiley,
who
is
chair
of
the
finance
committee?
I
hope
that's
correct,
they're
going
to
join
us
and
give
present
their
annual
report
jeannie
sent
that
out
to
all
of
you
in
email
just
before
the
meeting
started.
So
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
check
your
personal
email.
A
B
F
F
F
We
also
have
sent
out
since
kobe
we've
sent
out
a
year
in
giving
letter.
This
year
we
raised
approximately
a
thousand
or
thirteen
thousand
dollars
from
that
annual
giving
letter,
which
is
just
a
general
fund,
a
general
ask,
the
money
doesn't
isn't
for
anything
specific.
It
just
goes
into
our
kind
of
general
fund.
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F
I
think
it
was
a
hundred
dollar
visa
gift
card
and
we
think
we
got
about
50
names
that
we
added
to
our
address
or
to
our
to
our
mailing
list.
It
was
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
get
some
exposure.
I
think
I
don't
know
genie
knows
the
number,
but
I
don't
know
a
lot
of
people
came.
We
also
participated
in
the
palm
springs
family
fun
fest,
which
was
I.
F
F
We
have
been
in
consultation
with
the
jones
agency
and
that's
frank
jones,
who
publishes
palm
springs
life,
who
is
kind
of
at
the
ready
to
help
us
with
our
our
our
brand
awareness
campaign
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
in
a
minute,
but
but
overall,
what
I'd
like
you
to
get
from
this
annual
report?
Is
that
we're
really
strong?
F
G
B
B
F
C
F
A
So
so
david
following
that
thread,
because
it's
it's
been
a
long
time
since
we've
had
a
conversation
like
this
with
the
board,
can
you
pull
out
the
current
membership
list
of
the
board
not
to
go
into
names
unless
you
want
to?
But
maybe
you
can
share
with
us
some
of
the
additions
of
the
last
year
and
some
of
the
skills
that
they
have
brought
to
the
board
that
you've
already
seen
helped
you
achieve
some
of
these
goals
yeah.
You
could
start
with
mr
wylie
he's
looking
at
us
right
now.
G
Well,
I
I
primarily
was
in
sales
and
marketing
and
business
development,
and
I
was
in
telecommunications
and
healthcare,
two
two
different
kind
of
industries,
one
not
not
for
profit
and
one
for
profit.
And
so
you
know
I
have
a
lot
of
background
in
in
sales
marketing
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I
also
have
an
mba.
So
I
have
an
understanding
of
you,
know
the
finances
and
so
forth,
and
I've
sat
on.
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I
I
had
joined
the
friends
of
the
library
and
my
wife
and
I
had
when
we
retired
we
were
able
to
spend
six
seven
eight
months
there
now,
and
so
I
thought.
Well,
let's
let's
apply
and
I
got
a
letter
from
nancy
morrison
and
at
the
friends
and
she
said
that
david
was
looking
for
people
to
join,
and
so
I
raised
my
hand
and
and
ed
you
recall,
we
we
had
the
we
had
the
the
interview,
so
I'm
very
happy
to
be
on
the
board.
G
I
I
think
there's
as
david
sidley
mentioned
a
lot
of
spade,
work
that
was
done
by
david
and
ed
and
jeannie.
Frankly,
and
now
we're
really
starting
to
constitute
some
critical
mass
here
that
is
gonna
is
gonna,
enable
us
to
do
some
things
and
that's
why
we're
coming
to
you
now,
because
we
think
we're
at
a
a
very,
very
good
spot
with
what's
happening
at
the
city
level,
the
measure
j
stuff
and
we
need
we.
G
F
But
since
we've
developed
this
matrix,
we're
looking
for
people
that
have
experienced
fundraising
in
corporate
america,
finance,
media,
human
resources,
marketing
or
pr
event,
planning
legal
community
volunteer
political,
cultural
or
foundation
board
experience,
and
as
we
go,
we
kind
of
fill
this
matrix
out
and
see
who
we
need
so
that
when
we're
interviewing
people
we
want
to
know
you
know
if
they
have
any
kind
of
experience.
That
will
help
the
board,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
we
don't
want.
F
We
know
we,
we
don't
want
any
deadweight
to
be
totally
honest
with
you
and
our
actually,
our
newest
board
member
has
a
ton
of
community
organizing
experience
and
he
actually
helped
start
the
desert
aids
project
back
in
the
80s.
So
he
has
a
ton
of
organizational
experience
and
we're
really
excited
to
have
him
on
the
board.
A
A
Because
I've
got
my
agenda
from
my
microphone,
can
you
hear
me
now?
Yeah
yeah,
I'm
sorry
so
david
looking
ahead
at
the
pipeline
of
potential
board
members
and
community
leaders
that
you
guys
have
identified,
I
have
to
say
guys
from
my
experience
of
working
on
the
nominating
committee.
We
now
have
robin
melser
in
charge
of
it
and
she
is
a
work.
She
is
just
popping
the
whip.
I
mean
she
has
gone
out
and
met
so
many
people
already
and
she's
asking
anybody
who's
on
the
board.
A
So
I
I
think
that
we
should
be
very
confident
that,
even
though
the
the
board
has
made
quite
a
lot
of
stride
the
last
year,
I
think,
a
year
from
now
or
even
the
next
six
months
or
a
month
or
two,
it's
going
to
even
be
stronger
and
starting
to
prepare
themselves.
I
I
mean
I,
I
don't
want
to
call
out
names,
but
I
can
promise
you
that
you
guys
know
the
people
on
this
list
that
we're
talking
to
and
there's
great
interest
in
becoming
a
part
of
this
organization.
F
I
did
forget
to
mention
too
that
in
in
developing
our
new
strategic
plan,
peter
pearson,
who
is
part
of
library,
strategies
volunteered
to
assist
our
nominating
committee-
and
that
has
been
incredibly
valuable
and
helpful
to
us-
and
I
I
would
agree
with
ed
our
pipeline
of
people
that
we're
talking
to
now
is
is
very
exciting
and
diverse
and
young.
And
it's
going
to
be
great.
It's
really
exciting.
A
The
research
there's
and
found
out
that
there's
only
three
other
capital
campaign
projects
in
the
community
going
on
right
now,
that's
the
kind
of
intelligence
we
need
to
know
about.
As
this
group
goes
forward,
to
raise
money
for
us,
you
know
he's
already
scoped
out
what
how
much
they're
looking
for
you
know,
he's
already
scoped
out
who
they're
approaching.
A
A
F
A
So
these
are
all
people
that
are
just
as
committed
to
making
this
library
the
best
library
in
the
world
for
palm
springs
because
we
all
live
here.
You
know
it's
important
to
all
of
us,
so
I
think
that
and
remember
we're.
We've
got
the
save
the
plaza
theater,
which
is
a
huge
attention,
getter
right
now,
so
we're
watching
that
or
the
the
board
is
watching
that
to
make
sure
we
have
no
conflict
there.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
hope
we're
going
to
learn
from
them.
A
A
That
you
can
send
those
names
along
to
david
because
we're
we
are
in
a
growth
mode
and
trying
to
hit
that
goal
of
members.
So
if
you
know
of
anybody
so
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
second
board
representation
as
we
get
to
near
the
end
of
our
agenda,
so
you
guys
know
I
represent
the
trustees.
Juanita
was
doing
that,
but
she
was
having
conflict,
so
she
is
asked
to
be
replaced.
A
So
I
I'd
like
to
kick
off
this
next
presentation,
even
though
I
know
it's
out
of
order.
You
guys
weren't
expecting
this,
but
I
want
to
say
to
this
to
this
board
that
we
have
talked
most
recently
at
our
last
meeting.
Quite
frankly,
if
you
guys
will
recall
when
we
learned
the
news
of
the
we
thought
we
were
free
to
invest
money
only
to
find
out
that
no,
we
can't
invest
money
and
the
restrictions
that
were
handed
down
to
us
from
the
city
attorney.
I
think
that
we
did
discuss
that.
A
We
can't
forget
that,
and
the
the
trustees
before
us
made
that
decision,
because
they
felt
like
the
time
was
going
to
come
pretty
quickly
when
we
were
going
to
need
a
new
library
and
what
better
way
than
to
have
our
own
foundation
to
to
do
that.
For
us,
and
so
there
was
a
commitment
made
by
giving
them
money
to
get
started
a
group
of
people
and
to
also
we
just
need
to
remind
ourselves
that
this
is
our
fundraising
arm
that
we
created
so
many
years
ago.
So
you
know
with
that.
A
G
G
G
You'll
you'll
be
embarrassed,
but
but
that's
okay,
so
something
that
jeannie
said
in
a
press
release
in
december.
It
just
resonated
with
me
and
a
number
of
others
on
the
board
connecting
people
to
information
is
what
the
library
is
all
about
and
when
you
look
at
technology-
and
you
know
the
way
people
use
libraries
now
and
use
the
resources,
I
think
this
becomes
more
and
more
true
every
day.
G
Okay,
next
one
genie,
please
so
by
means
of
an
agenda,
we
can
talk
about
the
recent
history.
We
we've
talked
about
a
number
of
aspects,
so
I
won't.
I
won't
belabor
that
we've
identified
our
issues
and
opportunities
and
we've
established
a
direction
and
now
we're
coming
to
you
to
to
ask
or
to
to
expand
upon
how
the
the
trustees
could
help
us
and
it's
it's
primarily
a
financial
assistance
and
support
next,
so
not
to
belabor
things.
G
But
it's
interesting
because
they
come
in
to
use
the
computers
and
they
come
and
they
and
they're
accessing
lots
of
resources
that
jeannie
and
her
staff
provide
remotely,
and
so
anyway,
that
that
those
are
two
big
trends
that
we
see
in
the
community.
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
one
jeannie
that
would
be
help.
That
would
be
good
and
then,
of
course,
the
city
has
really
changed.
G
We
I
I
don't
have
to
belabor
this:
the
board
composition.
You
know
david
and
david
engines,
our
treasurer
robin
meltzer.
As
we
said,
she
used
to
be
on
development
now
she's
on
the
nominating
committee,
and
you
can
see
that
we've
got
10
board
members
there
plus
jeannie
and
julie,
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to
grow
that
out
to
24.25
okay.
Next,
please
recently
we
did
put
in
some
financial
structures.
G
We
have
policy
statements
that
we've
we
drafted
and
shared
and
adopted
as
a
board.
We
went
through
a
selection
process
last
summer
and
identified
edward
jones
as
our
financial
advisor.
I
put
an
asterisk
there,
because
the
person
that
represented
that
firm
has
now
left
edward
jones
and
gone
out
on
his
own.
But
for
the
time
being
jones
is,
is,
is
our
advisor
and
and
I
think
down
the
road.
We
can
look
at
other
opportunities
potentially,
but
we
need
we.
G
Next,
please,
treasury
and
administration.
We
have
a
database,
it's
called
bloomerang.
We
can
track
multiple
individuals
and
how
much
they've
given
when
they
gave
what
programs
induce
them
to
provide
the
donation,
and
we
can.
We
can
populate
those
as
we
go
along.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
more
and
more
powerful
as
we
get
more
and
more
people
into
that
database.
G
We
have
quicken
tools
for
our
income
statement
and
balance
sheets,
and
then
we
just
talked
about
our
net
assets.
That's
probably
a
little
high
right
now
because
of
the
valuations
in
the
stock
market
and
some
bills
that
we
paid
recently
and
then
fundraising.
We
we
have
that
standing
committee,
we've
done
an
annual
drive
for
two
years.
G
G
You
know
in
our
discussions.
We
we
did
uncover
some
issues
that
are
still
lingering,
and
some
of
these
are
clearing
up
a
little
bit
and
some
of
them
are
still
lingering
around.
But
you
know
the
there
is
still
a
little
uncertainty
in
the
city.
Hasn't,
you
know,
put
a
stake
in
the
ground
in
terms
of
which
of
these
projects
and
how
much
money
is
going
to
be
allocated
and
what's
the
timing
going
to
be,
and
so
on,
but
much
less
uncertainty
than
2020.
G
I
think
we
would
all
agree
same
thing
with
point
b.
You
know
a
lot
of
fundraising
takes
place
in
people's
homes.
They
open
them
up
and
individuals
come
there
and
are
invited
and
their
social
interaction
and
fundraising
has
done
a
lot
that
that's
just
an
example
of
some
of
the
ways
that
fundraising
activities
had
been
restricted.
G
G
You
know
is
that
is
that
something
that
we
could
do
to
become
a
little
bit
more
self-sustaining
and
and
and
not
be
buffeted
around
as
much
so
our
direction
is,
you
know,
let's
achieve
increase
and
participate.
Let's
achieve
greater
independence
from
the
kova,
the
city
budget,
the
city
timing,
through
some
greater
financial
independence.
G
Can
we
increase
our
membership
with
through
this
re-energy,
re-energized
and
nominating
committee,
and
then
we'd
really
like
to
participate
in
in
measure
j
projects
with
the
trustees
and
friends
on
the
multi-purpose
room,
the
jc,
frye,
building,
upgrade
and
and
positioning
for
the
capital
campaign
for
the
main
library.
Whatever
occurs,
then?
G
Okay,
jeannie
thanks
and
you
know
the
how
to's
coming
out
of
the
strategy
session.
Let's
build
a
donor
awareness
of
of
our
foundation's
purpose
and
our
role
and
how
we
donate-
and
we
again
this
great
work
that
joel
preston
has
done
to
help
us
increase
our
understanding
of
the
donor
community,
who
are
the
major
donors
that
are
there?
Are
there
special
purposes
or
special
interests
that
some
donors
might
might
respond
to?
G
Can
we
do
outreach
with
financial
advisors
so
that
the
library
can
be
included
in
estate
planning
and
some
of
these
other
things
that
we're
brainstorming
around
already?
And
you
know
the
wherewithal
to
do
a
lot
of
these
things
is-
is
creating
a
stronger
financial
base.
So
how
could
we
expand
our
fundraising
capabilities
and
broaden
the
community
awareness
and
facilitate
those
special
purpose?
Fundraisers,
and
that,
of
course,
financial
support
and
financial
strength
is,
is
is
a
way
as
a
means
to
do
that.
G
G
Thank
you
ed
for,
for
that
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
the
loan
payment
we've
started
to
brainstorm
our
donor
community
profile
and
we're
developing
our
our
our
target
segments
so
april
may
we're
we're
in
good
shape.
As
far
as
this
timeline
goes,
if
you
go
to
the
next
one
june
and
july,
we're
going
to
renew
our
hot
spot
funding
we're
going
to
be
tracking
the
measure
j
projects,
we'd
like
to
hire
a
fundraiser
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
that
in
a
few
minutes.
G
How
can
you
help
us?
Do
this?
And
you
know
the
point
number
one
we've
already
agreed
to
to
fund
the
hotspot
and
we
heard
that
the
multi-purpose
room
is
probably
not
going
to
get
external
funding.
So
maybe
we
want
to
do
that
together
with
you,
the
trustees
and
the
friends
and
with
jeannie
and
her
staff,
and
and
try
to
put
something
together.
G
That
would
be
helpful
and
meaningful
to
them
on
that
project.
But
the
big,
the
big
asp
tonight
is
for
approximately
550
000
in
what
I'm
calling
enabling
funds
to
continue
our
growth
and
to
implement
the
the
direction
that
we
just
talked
about
and
that
fifty
thousand
is
actually
forty.
Eight
thousand
now
because
we
paid
may
we
wanted
to
use
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
hire
an
executive
director
whose
primary
function
and
pretty
much
the
100
of
the
function
would
be
as
fundraiser,
and
that
would
cover
for
two
years.
G
A
E
E
E
E
I
think
we
gave
the
library
20
000
for
their
awareness
and
and
now
we're
gonna
give
the
foundation
a
hundred
thousand.
I
I
think
that's
excessive,
and
I
again,
I
think
if
we
relieve
them
of
the
loan
from
us,
they
have
now
155
000
that
they
can
spend
on
their
own
and
decide
what
they
want
to
do
do
with
the
money
that
they've
raised
and
the
last
one,
I
think
is
not
in
sync
with
what's
going
on
with
other
non-profits,
I'm
very
familiar
with
what
myself
is
doing.
E
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
boys
and
girls
club
are
doing.
They
are
putting
on
fundraisers
they've
downsized
and
I
think
jeff
kors
was
a
big
pusher
on
this.
He
did
it
with
mizelle.
He
did
he's
doing
it
with
the
boys
and
girls
club
they
put
on
fundraisers
or
there's
no
more
galas.
The
only
one
that's
doing
the
galas
now
is
a
dap,
and
that
is
really
it.
Everybody
else
is
downsized
when
they're
having
a
fundraiser
now
it's
paid
for
up
front
and
when
people
raise
the
paddles
at
it,
that's
all
green
money
coming
in.
E
So
if
boys
and
girls
club
can
raise
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
without
laying
out
any
money,
that's
maybe
what
the
foundation
should
be
doing
or
what
other
organizations
be
doing?
Myself
did
the
same
thing:
they
sold
the
tables
before
and
everything
they
raised.
They
raised
115
000
one
night
with
no
expenditures
so
of
the
250
000,
I'm.
I
think
it's
out
of
touch
of
what's
really
happening
in
the
coachella
valley
and
then
again
we're
not
investing
our
money
like
we
would
do
with
the
stock
market
or
with
mutual
funds
and
bonds.
E
A
Once
we
give
that
money,
we
pretty
much
can't
dictate
what
they
do
with
it.
So
I
mean
I,
I
think
that
your
comments
are
well
founded,
but
I
think
we
have
to
recognize
that
it
can't
go
with
strings
and
it
can't
go
with.
This
is
what
you
can
do
with
it
so,
but
I
think
we
all
agree
that
at
some
point
we're
going
to
give
the
foundation
money,
so
I
think
that
these
are
all
things
that
we
as
a
body
need
to
discuss.
A
So
I
would
like
to
continue
this
item
to
our
next
meeting
and
dedicate
some
time
amongst
ourselves
to
talk
about
this
request
and
to
formulate
a
response
to
the
foundation
with
what
how
we
feel
about
it.
If
it's,
if
it's
not
an
approval
or
it's
some
sort
of
response
back
with
modifications,
I
think
we
deserve
some
time
to
think
about
it,
because
we
only
got
this
today
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
talk
amongst
ourselves
about
what
we
would
want
to
see
because
we're
going
to
give
them
a
gift
at
some
point.
A
E
A
A
B
B
B
C
A
And
and
craig
I
maybe
you
record
remember:
there
was
a
discussion
that
we,
when
we
renewed
this
note,
we
talked
about
the
ability
to
forgive
it
at
any
given
time,
and
I
thought
the
the
advice
we
got
from
the
city
attorney
is
that
it's
in
place?
We
can't
do
that.
We
have
to
have
them,
pay
it
back.
So
I
guess
we
probably
I
I
think,
let's
take
a
vote
if,
if
your
emotion
could
be
more
of,
let's
explore
the
possibility
of
forgiving
this
note
and
what
that
would
look
like.
A
B
A
A
C
A
C
C
C
A
We'll
certainly
look
at
what
that
would
look
like
now.
Our
our
assignment,
then,
is
to
you
will
have
this
presentation
in
your
think
that
and
craig
clearly,
you
you've
had
some
thought
about
it,
but
I'd
like
for
us
to
come
back
together.
We'll
put
this
on
our
agenda
to
spend
some
time
on
it
in
june,
and
I
think
at
that
point
we
owe
our
foundation
a
response
to
what
we
feel
comfortable
may
be
doing
at
this
time
and
and
respond
back
to
their
requests.
A
Please
shoot
those
over
to
genie
and
myself
so
that
we,
if
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
to
the
foundation
board
or
if
we
need
to
consult
the
city
attorney
or
whatever.
So
please
don't
wait
to
that
last
meeting
or
the
meeting
in
june.
Let's,
let's
try
to
have
some
of
our
questions
answered
before
then.
If
you
have
one
so
just
shoot
them
over
to
me
and
we'll
have
jeannie
or
you
know
I
can
reach
out
to
the
attorney
the
course
in
copying.
Everyone
on
those
questions.
A
Yeah
so
david
and
bill.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
we
appreciate
the
the
time
that
you
put
into
your
presentation.
I
I
think
it
was
very
helpful
to
have
an
update
on
where
the
library
foundation
is.
At
this
point,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
jeanne-
and
I
have
been
talking
about-
is
that
we're
in
a
great
spot
guys,
because
the
library
seems
to
be
the
top
of
mind
for
everybody
in
city
hall.
A
I
think
we
finally
have
got
everyone
thinking
that
it's
time
to
give
the
good
old
library
a
little
bit
of
money
and
they're.
Even
talking
about
some
money
and
real
figures,
you
know
real
folding
money,
as
my
grandma
used
to
call
it
right.
So
we're
talking.
I
think
that
we're
finally
on
the
radar-
and
I
want
us
to
be
ready.
A
I
think
that,
should
next
fiscal
year
bring
us
some
of
that
planning
money
and
maybe
some
even
something
to
do
a
project
or
two
we've
got
to
be
ready
and
our
foundation
has
got
to
be
poised.
So
I
I
think
that
you
know
it's
we're
at
that
point.
I
really
do
so.
Judy's
gonna
talk
to
us
next
about
her
budget
proposal
and
I'm
gonna
ask
her
to
also
maybe
share
with
what's
going
on
with
some
of
the
discussion
in
city
council
meetings
but
david
bill.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
F
F
B
30.
I'll
start
a
little
bit
earlier
than
that
7c
page
26..
So
I
wrote
you
a
little
memo
explain
what
I
was
asking
for.
Every
year
we
we
asked
for
funds
out
of
the
croppitzer
trust
account,
because
those
funds
are
earmarked
specifically,
and
I
included
the
the
quotation
of
what
the
money
is
earmarked
for.
B
It's
either
earmarked
for
a
quiet,
reading
center
for
senior
patrons
in
the
main
library
or
if
this
is
not
feasible
for
the
purchase
of
non-fiction,
adult
books
written
in
english,
and
so
what
we've
been
doing
for
the
past
several
years
is
doing
ten
thousand
dollars
as
a
supplement
to
our
regular
book
budget
to
purchase
additional
non-fiction
books
in
english.
It's
really
been
a
huge
help
to
us
and
it
helps
us
do
a
couple
of
things.
You
know
non-fiction.
B
Time
is
a
challenge
because
things
go
out
of
date
quickly,
especially
non-fiction
any
travel
books.
Sometimes
the
countries
stop
existing
pluto
stops
becoming
a
planet,
medical
information
or
science.
Sometimes
it
changes
so
quickly.
So
we
have
to
keep
that
collection,
thriving
and
it
costs
a
lot
of
money,
and
so
we
want
to
keep
that
collection
going,
and
so
I'm
asking
for
ten
thousand
dollars
for
the
for
the
non-fiction
book
collection
and
then
our
ebook
collection,
as
you
can
see
on,
I
gave
you
some
statistics.
B
A
Point
of
clarification,
beauty
I
mean
in
the
past
once
you
get
an
a
confirmation
of
your
budget.
For
example,
that's
when
you
may
have
come
back,
I
think
in
the
in
my
last
six
years
and
say
hey.
I
had
asked
for
this,
but
we
didn't
get
this
so
I'd
like
to
ask
the
trust
fund
to
do.
You
know
come
up
with
the
money
for
this
particular
and
we've
done
that
before
right.
So
right.
B
Right,
yeah-
and
I
guess
I
didn't
actually
talk
to
you
about
the
statistics
that
I
included,
but
we
ran
some
reports.
Thank
you,
lisa
by
collection.
So
if
you
look
at
pages
27
28-29,
we
have
collection,
codes
or
collection
departments,
and
if
you
look
at
those
we
we
did
pre-pandemic
circulation
statistics
and
then
we
did
during
the
pandemic,
and
so
a
lot
of
things
really
went
down
so
you'll
see
our
as
an
example.
B
B
Yes,
streaming
people
and
but
you
know
again,
we
serve
a
lot
of
patrons
who
don't
have
internet
right
so
still,
and
so
a
lot
of
people
can't
afford
streaming.
But
during
the
pandemic
we
were
closed
and
they
didn't,
they
couldn't
get
in
to
get
to
browser
to
get
things
and
they
found
alternative
solutions.
So
that's
fine,
but
then
in
on
page
28
29
we
combine
some
of
those
categories
because
we
have
so
many
types.
B
E
E
B
B
I
was
being
funny
that
was
it,
the
large
print
speculation
really
took
them.
The
large
print
circulation
took
a
nose
dive
during
the
pandemic,
and
I
think
it's
because
people
couldn't
get
in
but
also
ebooks
can't
you
can
adjust
the
font
size
on
ebooks,
and
so
it's
been
a
real
benefit
to
people
who
need
larger.
I
I
increase
my
font
on
my
ebook
all
the
time.
I've
got
it
in
a
pretty.
A
B
30
and
31
you'll
see-
and
these
this
is
kind
of
a
foreign
language-
to
read
like
a
finance
report.
Page
30
is
what
there's
an
overview
of
what
has
been
approved
and
funded
in
the
past
and
so
the
categories.
So
this
is
the
general
fund
for
the
library.
So
this
is
our
proposal
for
next
fiscal
year
and
the
the
information
for
next
fiscal
year
is
the
furthest
category
to
the
right
where
it
says
projection
level.
Two,
that's
what
we're
asking
for.
D
B
Prior
to
school
year,
two
years
ago,
last
fiscal
year,
current
year,
actuals
current
year,
revised
budget
and
then
projections
so
we're
asking
the
city
for
a
7.9
increase
in
services
to
the
library.
Honestly,
most
of
those
are
accounts
that
we
don't
get
to
spend
at
the
library,
their
facilities,
maintenance,
salaries,
insurance.
B
Things
like
that,
so
our
categories
are
really
things
like
travel
travel.
It
says,
travel
dues,
it's
travel
and
training,
materials
and
supplies.
That's
the
big
one
where
we're
asking
399
000
and
then
it
goes
down
to
print
which
is
printing
and
publishing
for
us,
and
then
it
says
legal
advertisement.
That's
actually
our
advertising
account.
So
so
I
mentioned
maybe
four
accounts
that
we
really
get
to
work
with
and
this
new
financial
system.
B
B
The
increases
for
staffing
for
aeg
and
our
security
officers,
so
really
we've
got
a
wellwood
operations,
account
of
thirty
thousand
and
twenty
five
dollars
and
that
pays
for
all
of
our
programming
and
supplies
and
different
things
there.
And
then
our
communication
account.
That's
our
internet
account.
So.
A
Jeannie,
of
course,
I
was
able
to
hear
your
presentation
to
the
library
foundation
board
and
I
and
I
I
was
going
to
wait
till
now,
because
I'd
like
for
you
to,
I
don't
think
you've
mentioned
this
in
your
earlier
report,
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
number
one,
the
the
grant
request
from
the
state
library
on
ebooks
and
how
we're
now
participating
in
that
and
how
it's
taken
off,
and
the
the
other
item
is
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
we'll
talk
about
that.
First,
if
you
don't
mind.
B
B
It
so
much
that
they
can
just
request
a
book
and
it
shows
up
at
your
house
and
we
paid
for
it.
So
it's
a
great
program,
we're
almost
out
of
money
and
and
I'm
thinking,
how
can
we
get
this
program
again?
How
can
we
get
the
grant
again?
But
the
california
state
library
tends
to
issue
the
grant
awards
in
the
spring
for
this
one.
So
it's
really
complicated
for
the
rest
of
the
year
for
patrons
who
really
love
this
program.
B
B
B
A
B
There's
no
money
budgeted
for
the
zip
books
program,
but
that
might
be
something
in
the
fall
or
you
know
later
summer
I
might
look
around
and
maybe
the
friends
or
trust
fund
might
be
interested
in
doing
some
or
maybe
we'll
see.
Maybe
the
california
state
library
listens
to
the
library
directors
who
are
saying
if
this
is
a
champagne
problem.
It's
such
a
good
program
and
it's
so
popular
we've
all
run
out
of
money.
A
A
B
They're,
whatever
is
available,
so
we
try.
We
always
shoot
for
hardcover
if
we
can
get
it.
But
if
it's
not
hardcover,
we
we've
received
paperbacks
too,
and
they
don't.
You
know
they
might
not
be.
They
might
not
last
very
long,
but
somebody
wanted
to
read
it
and
we'll
add
it
to
the
collection
and
then,
if
it
dies.
A
C
B
We
would
have
to
put
some
limits
on
it
right
now.
We
don't
have
many
many
restrictions
on
this
program.
We
would
probably
have
to
limit
users
to
you,
get
one
when
you're
finished,
bring
it
back
and
we'll
order.
You
another
one
kind
of
a
thing,
because
right
now
we're
not
putting
limits
on
it,
and
so
people
are
going
wild.
So.
C
B
I
yeah
I
I
would
we
would
have
to
explore
some
restrictions
and
and
take
a
little
bit
more
look
at
it.
But
right
now
I'm
asking
you
for
any
money
for
this,
but
it's
very
successful
and
people
really
love
it
and
it's
popular
all
over
california,
because
I
we
were
on
a
zoom
with
other
library
directors
and
they
were
like
we.
We
ran
out
of
money
right
away,
we're
already
we're
done.
You
know,
and
then
the
patrons
are
crying
because
they
can't
get
them,
but.
A
It's
it's
such
a
no-brainer,
and
I
mean
whoever
thought
of
this
program
at
the
state
library.
Finally,
somebody
woke
up
up
there
in
sacramento
had
a
great
idea.
I
mean
they've
had
a
lot
of
great
ideas.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
I
mean
you
know
I
can
remember
when
libraries
used
to
see
amazon
as
a
threat
now
they're
seeing
it
as
a
leverage
right,
so
it
is
an
enhancement.
I
I
think
that
that's
that's
a
great
idea
right.
One.
B
C
B
The
small
town,
libraries
who
don't
have
a
good
courier
system
or
they're,
not
in
a
good
network
where
they
could
borrow
stuff
from
neighboring
branches
and
for
us
interlibrary
loan.
We
we
charge
a
patron
five
dollars
for
an
interlibrary
loan.
This
is
a
this
is
a
loan
where
we
would
send
it
out,
send
out
a
nationwide
request.
B
B
F
B
B
We
we
wouldn't
buy
that
for
the
library,
because
it
was
just
not
relevant
to
our
collections
just
too
obscure
for
our
popular.
You
know,
public
library
collection,
so
we
do
have
some
some
researches
we've
turned
down
quite
a
few
items.
A
lot
of
them
are
just
because
we
already
own
it
or
on
order.
We
actually
thought
we
needed
it
too,
and
so
we
ordered
it
from
our
vendor
on
the
way
just
or
we
couldn't
find
it.
You
know
not
available
like
yeah.
B
If
we,
if
they
request
something,
it's
just
not
available
and
we're
not
buying
used,
because
I
think
we
got
burned
a
couple
of
times,
we
bought
some
stuff
and
it
was
like
a
withdrawn
library
books.
So
they
were
terrible
shape
and
we
couldn't
add
that
to
our
collection.
So
we've
made
a
rule,
we're
not
buying
anything
used.
C
B
C
C
B
B
B
It's
just
informational
I'll.
Just
do
it
real
quickly!
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
are
aware
that
the
city
you
you
really
don't
have
a
any
input
in
this,
but
the
city
I
wanted
you
to
be
aware
of
it.
The
city
every
year
looks
at
the
comprehensive
fee
schedule
or
the
consumer
price
index
and
sets
the
city's
fees
at
the
time
of
this
writing.
It
was
7.5
percent,
but
then
they
did
go
to
council
and
approve
6.9.
B
A
B
B
One
thing
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
took
out
the
word
setup
fee
and
change
it
to
a
processing
fee,
because
we
didn't
want
to
give
the
perception
that
we
were
going
to
set
up
a
room
for
somebody
like
physical
tables
and
chairs.
So
it's
just
a
paperwork
fee,
and
then
our
fees
changed
a
little
bit
on
the
some
of
these
different
rates,
because
I'm
looking
at
wellwood
wellwood,
we
were
open
12
hours
a
day,
so
a
full
day
was
a
12
hour
cost.
B
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
so,
for
item
mate,
I
also
have
something,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
trustee
gardner
expressed
to
me
that
she
was
unable
to
meet
the
foundation
meetings
and
she's
our
other
representative
because
of
her
work
schedule
I
have
asked,
and
trustee
jones
has
agreed
to
take
her
place
on
the
library
foundation
board.
So
I'm
going
to
name
him
to
that
position
going
forward
and
from
there
trustee
nurgar
do
you
have
a
question?
You
had
your
hand
up
you're
on
me.
A
C
Sorry,
thank
I'm
sorry
to
go
backwards
here.
No,
I
apologize.
I
I
just
want
to
make
note
of
what
our
own
bylaws
say
in
article
7
section
1
parts.
Let's
see
part
c,
the
library
board
shall
establish,
amend
and
periodically
review
all
library,
fines
fees
and
charges
ensuring
that
they
are
incorporated
into
the
city's
master's
schedule.
C
C
It
seems
like
the
process
worked
in
reverse
and
it
seems
like
we
should
be
proposing
to
this
council,
not
the
other
way
around
yeah.
That's
not
quite
how
it
works,
but
good
thought.
Well,
I
understand
that's
not
how
it
did
work,
but
that's
how
it
is
supposed
to
work
according
to
what
the
bylaws
state
and
which
have
been
accepted
by
the
council.
B
York
you're
correct
it
does,
I
mean
you're
reading
and
it
says
that
the
I
know
that
on
the
library
policies
we
do
have
you
review
and
do
the
library
policies,
the
fees
and
julie.
Maybe
you,
if
you
know
anything
about
historically
how
the
fees
were
set,
but
I
know
for
us
we
did.
The
city
did
the
fee
study
a
few
years
ago
and
they
always
tend
to
set
the
fee.
So,
yes,.
D
And
then
they
did
this
as
jeannie
was
saying
this
study,
where
they
reviewed
all
of
the
different
city,
buildings
and
all
of
the
different.
You
know
room
rentals
and
things
like
that,
and
they
proposed
that
and
then
they
just
started
doing
this
the
last
few
years
where
they
were
tying
it
to
the
index,
and
so
that
kind
of
was
like
a
new
thing
like
about
four
or
five
years
ago,
and
then
they
just
started
doing
it
yeah,
but
that's
kind
of
the
history
of
it.
If
you
will.
C
Excuse
me
for
interrupting
ed.
I
need
to
ring
off.
I
apologize
because
of
that
eye
appointment.
I
had
to
reschedule
another
meeting
that
I
was
leading
it's
I
thought
we'd
be
done
by
7
15..
I
do
apologize
to
everybody
for
that.
It
just
today
got
messed
up
when
I
had
to
go
the
emergency
on
that
hi.
So.
A
E
A
So
discussion
for
a
second,
so
I
I
I
agree
that
we
probably
should
vote
on
these.
I
guess
the
other
question
is
genie.
If
the
city
is
saying
that
you
know
the
the
policy
our
bylaws
might
say
this,
but
the
real
policy
is
we're
going
to
set
the
fees
and
we're
happy
to
have
you
review
them
and
you
can
vote
on
them,
but
you
really
have
no
input
into
these
because
they're
based
on
all
the
other
formulas
they
use
when
establishing
fees
across
all
city
services
is
what
I
think
I
heard
you
say
right.
A
B
I
think
I
think
that's
true,
and
I
can
certainly
discuss
it
with
my
assistant
city
manager,
and
it
may
be
that
your
bylaws
might
have
to
change
if
that's
not
really
the
true
role,
if
you're
merely
really
really
advisory.
And
what,
if
you
didn't
agree
with
these
fees,
there's
really
not
much.
You
could
do
at
one
point.
A
That's
my
point,
so
I
think
we,
I
think
you
do
need
to
discuss
it
with
the
assistant
city
manager
and
come
back
with
us
with
you
know
some
sort
of
is
this
just
the
way
that
is
this
an
ordinance?
Is
this
just
the
way
this
because
I
I
imagine
it
might
be
the
ordinance,
but
this
is
how
the
city
operates,
and
so
our
bylaws
are
are
clearly
in
conflict,
and
we
need
to
resolve
that.
So,
yes,.
C
A
B
A
B
A
And
everyone
I
I
I
so
apologize
for
messing
up
this
meeting,
but
I
was
out
of
the
country
for
the
first
two
weeks
of
the
month.
I
think,
given
the
fact
that
we've
got,
we
need
to
respond
back
to
the
library
foundation
if
we
stick
with
our
regular
schedule
meeting,
which
would
be
the
second
of
june
right.
A
C
A
A
B
C
B
E
B
A
All
right,
thank
you.
So
let's
set
our
meeting
for
the
eighth
and
at
that
meeting,
of
course,
we'll
work
on
our
response
to
the
library
foundation,
reporting
requests
we
receive
this
evening,
we'll
we'll
keep
our
regular
agenda,
but
I
think
that
we'll
we'll
focus
on
our
response
to
them.
I
will
note
that
that
will
be
my
last
official
meeting,
because
I
will
rotate
off
at
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
A
Jeannie
is
asking
the
city
if
I
may
stay
until
the
position
is
filled
which
we
have
done
in
the
past,
just
because
of
the
critical
point
where
we're
at
with
some
of
the
things
we're
working
on,
but
I
am
prepared
for
that
to
be
my
last
meeting.
So
just
so
all
of
you
know,
and
then
the
first
meeting
of
july
will
be
where
you
will
reconstitute,
maybe
with
a
replacement
and
re-elect
officers
and
start
all
over.
So.
C
A
A
A
C
A
There
right
that's
correct
so
with
that
I
once
again
everyone.
I
appreciate
your
service.
I
appreciate
your
time.
I
think
that
we're
in
store
for
some
really
fun
times
this
next
fiscal
year
and
and
seeing
some
of
our
work
come
to
fruition.
So
with
that,
we'll
we'll
conclude
this
meeting
at
and
I
have
on
my
clock,
7
22.
janie-
is
that
what
you
have.