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From YouTube: Public Arts Commission | Jan 18 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Palm Springs Public Arts Commission, held January 18th, 2023
A
A
Here,
thank
you
all
right,
very
good,
we'll
move
into
our
meeting.
Then
we
have
item
number
c
presentation
for
the
illuminate
project
by
Stephen,
biller
and
Lance
Fung
and
gentlemen.
If
we
could
do
the
presentation
in
about
10
minutes,
allow
for
about
five
minutes
from
question
and
answers
from
the
Commissioners
that
would
be
great,
so
feel
free
to
jump
into
it
when
you're
ready
very.
C
The
program
you're
about
to
see
has
the
institutional
support
already
of
Palm
Springs
Art
Museum
grid
development,
Agua
Caliente
band
of
kawea
Indians,
as
well
as
Palm
Springs
life
I'm.
The
longtime
editor
of
Palm
Springs
life
I've,
been
here
for
over
20
years
and
we're
now
we're
excited
to
invite
the
city's
participation
in
this
in
this
opportunity.
C
I
want
to
introduce
Lance
Fung
Lance
is
a
curator
of
international
Renown
has
done
the
snow,
show
in
two
countries:
pairing
the
world's
top
artists,
with
Architects
to
build
incredible,
Monumental
works
of
art
in
snow
and
ice
and
also
did
site
Santa,
Fe
and
most
recently
and
most
impressively
did
a
show
called
constellations.
Global
Reflections
for
the
G20
Summit
in
Bali,
so
very
accomplished,
and
we're
very
happy
to
have
him
with
us.
Lance
I'm,
going
to
turn
this
over
to
you.
D
D
D
There
seems
to
be
that
Schism
and
you
folks
all
know
being
on
the
Arts
Commission
of
the
high
art
and
having
this
highbrow
thing
and
then
the
public
art,
and
they
don't
the
two-
don't
often
mix
right,
so
our
focus
is
doing
art
in
the
public
places
properly,
and
so
these
are
some
of
the
artists
we've
initially
reached
out
to
it's
all
based
on
budget.
So
the
show
is
scalable.
D
So,
depending
on
how
much
we
we
raised
in
the
first
year,
it
will
be
how
many
projects
we
go
forward
with
and
and
then,
as
the
years
progress
and
we're
able
to
hopefully
increase
our
budget
and
then
increase
the
scale
and
breadth
of
the
show.
But
suffice
it
to
say
the
the
show
is
properly
done,
which
is
correct.
Gender
balance,
inclusive
diverse,
not
only
in
of
artists,
beliefs
and
backgrounds,
but,
most
importantly
in
aesthetic,
and
so
we
can
go
forward.
D
Having
done
this
for
all
too
many
decades
to
actually
admit,
because
my
big
birthday
is
next
or
is
this
weekend
it's
a
little
scary.
The
nice
thing
that
comes
with
age
is
connections,
and
so
all
the
art,
publications
and
the
media
are
aware
of
what
we
do
and
I'm
able
to
reach
out
to
them.
But,
more
importantly
than
press
and
visitors,
which
are
a
big
part
of
the
puzzle,
pieces
are
the
artists
right.
D
Nothing
happens
without
great
Visionary
artists
and
so
we're
able
to
really
reach
out
to
appropriate
artists
and
get
them
to
work
in
an
unusual
way
that
many
top
artists
work
and
that's
a
in
a
group
show
B
with
public
art
C
with
temporary
public
art,
but
in
the
show
that
we
just
unveiled
in
Bali
for
the
G20,
we
had
Inca
shinabare,
the
kavakovs
zhubing.
It
was
an
incredible
roster
of
20
artists
and
so
we'd
want
to
bring
our
ammunition
and
our
Arsenal
to
Palm
Springs.
That
way,
we
live
in
Carmel
By,
the
Sea.
D
So
we
understand
sort
of
your
the
energy
of
your
community
because
we're
kind
of
a
similar
community
in
which
we
rely
on
our
locals,
which
are
the
the
most
interesting
and
part
of
our
city,
but
also
all
of
the
tourists
and
visitors
that
come
in
through
locals.
Bringing
people
in
and
through
people
just
seeing
you
know
an
article
in
the
San,
Francisco,
Chronicle
or
or
New
York
Times.
So
this
is
sort
of
our
terrain
and.
C
This
is
a
walkable
experience.
The
whole
idea
is
is
that
we
want
to
bring
people
downtown
so
that
they're
going
to
eat
and
they're
going
to
shop
and
they're
going
to
have
this
experiences
they're
going
to
hold
them
downtown.
So
what
you're
looking
at
is
from
the
museum
all
the
way
out
to
the
new
Agua
Caliente
cultural
Plaza,
so
the
entire
experience
is
walkable.
D
Great
and
the
one
thing
is
Steven
reached
out
to
me
because
we
worked
on
a
big
show
where
the
city
of
Carl
Gables
invited
us
to
conceive
a
New
Concept,
and
that
was
illuminate
Coral
Gables,
and
so
we
did
it
for
one
year
and
then
we
then
I
think
I
reached
out
to
Stephen
saying
Hey.
Would
this
be
something
interesting
interesting
in
Palm
Springs?
And
so
there
we
were
able
to
do
I
think
we
did
eight
projects
throughout
downtown
Coral
Gables.
D
D
What
was
amazing
was
it
was
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
before
the
vaccine
and
people
were
all
pretty
much
staying
inside,
but
we
created
an
outdoor,
family-friendly,
safe
environment
and
had
over
12
000
nightly
visitors,
and
so
the
economic
impact
for
the
businesses
and
the
hotels
is
what
kept
them
in
business
and
are
now
thriving.
And
so
people
came
in
from
the
immediate
area
and
we
met
lots
of
visitors
as
far
as
a
four-hour
drive
away.
D
And
so
that's
sort
of
a
little
less
important,
but
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide
only
because
it's
sort
of
like
speed
dating
right
now,
I'd
rather
have
you
understand,
sort
of
where
we're
coming
from,
because
the
selection
process
of
the
artist
will
be
we'll
get
well.
All
of
you
will
say:
hey
check
out
this
artist
and
what
about
this
one
and
then
we
can
kind
of
just
go
through
it,
but.
C
D
If
not
it's
okay,
so
ultimately,
this
is
a
kinetic
artwork
by
psycho
Chang,
where
petticaps
are
transformed
with
through
handmade
silk.
Lanterns
and
visitors
are
able
to
hop
in
and
get
a
free
ride
of
the
art
exhibition.
So
it's
kind
of
the
connector
of
the
show,
and
the
next
slide
is
by
an
extremely
important
artist
from
the
UK
named
Conrad
shawcross.
C
D
And
then
the
next
slide
is
by
Jim
Campbell.
Some
of
you
may
be
familiar
with
him
he's
one
of
the
most
important
Bay
Area
artists.
He
just
did
a
commission,
which
is
the
top
of
the
sales
force
Tower
in
San
Francisco
and
the
piece
we
can
travel
for
a
tiny
fee
which
was
built
with
a
huge
fee
in
Manhattan.
Is
this
whole
Matrix
of
light
bulbs,
which
are
individually
programmed
so
at
night
time?
D
What
you're
able
to
do
is
see
the
shadow
of
people
walking
through,
because
the
camera
in
another
part
of
Palm
Springs
would
be
capturing
life
movement,
which
would
then
be
projected
through
these
light
bulbs.
It's
super
mesmerizing,
but
you
can
Google
Jimmy
in
the
next
slide.
We
also
know
we
want
to
drive
visitors
first
in
the
first
year,
certainly
from
the
Bay
Area
and
without
and
throughout
California,
and
then
in
the
future
years
of
course,
cast
a
wider
net.
D
This
is
by
one
of
the
most
important
contemporary
artists,
in
my
opinion,
named
Kiki,
Smith
who's
with
Pace
gallery
and
a
very
good
friend.
This
is
one
of
the
works
we
created
for
illuminate
Coral
Gables.
Its
budget
alone
was
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
were
able
to
include
it
in
the
show
at
zero
expense.
So
in
this
case
the
artist
is
willing
to
wait
for
fee
and
we're
able
to
install
it,
and
we
currently
have
it
in
storage
in
Santa
Clara.
D
This,
though,
has
a
really
cool,
augmented
reality
component,
so
kids
can
learn
about
astrology
and
asterisms
in
the
next
slide.
This
is
a
project
that
we
prototyped
for
illuminate
Coral
Gables.
We
want
to
do
a
larger
version
on
the
block
by
Antonia,
Wright
and
Ruben
melares,
two
artists
from
Cuba.
They
just
did
a
big
piece
on
the
beach
in
with
the
Fianna
hotel
and
it
received
in
a
competition
of
like
the
seven
projects
there.
D
It
was
selected
as
the
best
project
during
the
recent
Miami
Art
Fair,
and
the
next
slide
is
just
brainstorming
and
walking
around
the
area.
There
are
lots
of
sites
that
I
know
when
we
come
and
do
a
site
visit.
All
of
you
will
want
to
say,
hey
look
at
about
this
side
or
I
know
a
friend
that
owns
this
vacant
storefront,
but
that
blank
wall
on
the
side
of
the
hotel
was
screaming
to
do
a
video
projection.
So
this
is
by
a
very
important
artist
who
split
through
time
between
Israel
and
the
USA
and.
D
In
this
case,
this
was
a
concept
of
working
with
the
dream
catcher,
where
people
brought
organic
elements
that
would
be
collaged
into
these
big
sculptural
forms
that
light
up
at
night
time
kind
of
like
stained
glass
and
the
next
slide
is
an
artist
from
La.
Of
course,
we
want
to
have
a
percentage
of
artists
from
Palm,
Springs
and
Los
Angeles.
We
want
to
drive
tourism
from
there.
D
Through
these
neon
signs
and
when
Steven
first
introduced
his
work
to
me
in
a
short
list
of
La
artists,
this
is
the
one
that
I
gravitated
towards
most
and
now
just
looking
at
his
career
in
the
past
year.
It's
on
this
massive
upward
trajectory,
so
it's
also
important
for
us
not
to
show
only
famous
artists
like
Kiki
Smith,
but
also
to
introduce
artists,
especially
for
younger
collectors
or
collectors
in
the
region
who
are
looking
at
what
to
acquire.
D
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention,
too,
is
all
of
the
majority
of
the
works
would
be
commissioned
by
us
and
we
would
pay
the
artist
a
fee.
The
work
of
the
funds
would
be
to
create
new
work,
which
we
would
exhibit
in
Palm
Springs
at
least
25
to
50
percent
would
be
commissioned
and
in
many
cases
the
artists
then
really
hope
that
they
remain
in
the
city.
So
we
can
either
negotiate
a
semi-permanent
insulation
or
possible
acquisition
at
a
reduced
cost
in
the
next
slide.
D
C
Yeah,
so
the
you
know
the
artwork
is
is
a
as
a
springboard
for
all
kinds
of
opportunities,
including
you
know,
public
and
private,
tours,
educational
and
Family
Programs.
We
can
get
the
schools
involved.
You
know,
I'm
on
on
I
I
have
been
on
the
museums
board,
I've
been
on
the
desert,
export,
and-
and
this
is
something
that
I've
always
kind
of
been
bullish
about
is
getting.
C
We
want
to
work
with
hotels
and
the
restaurants
and
the
whole
Hospitality
Community
to
tailor
their
offerings
for
this
program.
Special
menus
in
restaurants
and
such
we'll
also
be
able
to
create
artists,
talks
and
other
kinds
of
community
events
and
interact
with
other
events
that
are
already
happening.
Downtown
such
as
Palm,
Springs,
Pride
and
also
we'll
have
an
opportunity
to
do
sponsor
activations.
C
C
We
plan
on
looking
at
you
know
the
CVB
and
PS
Resorts,
and
and
trying
to
get
everybody
to
have
a
little
bit
of
skin
in
the
game,
because
everybody's
a
stakeholder,
this
is
about
bringing
people
to
Palm
Springs,
to
stay,
to
shop,
to
eat
and
to
experience
everything
we
have
in
our
attractions
and
cultural
institutions.
So
it's
a
Gateway,
it's
another
trigger
to
get
people
here
and
then
we
would
support
it
through
Palm
Springs
life.
C
You
know
we
we
produce
Fashion
Week
El
Paseo,
we
Produce
Palm,
Springs,
I'm,
sorry,
Palm,
Desert,
food
and
wine.
We've
done
the
always
this
music
festival.
We
have
an
events,
division,
we
have
a
massive
marketing
arm.
Both
you
know
digital
and
print,
to
draw
the
audiences
that
we're
talking
about-
and
this
is
just
second
nature
to
us-
the
marketing
piece
of
it.
So
we've
got
the
infrastructure
to
market
we've
got
the
the
content
and
we've
got
the
institutional
Partnerships.
D
Yeah
I
think
we
can
end
there.
I
just
wanted
to
also
mention
that
one
and
I'm
I
don't
know
how
we
are
with
our
10
minutes,
but
I
wanted
to
mention
a
big
part
of
doing
an
important
art
show
is
the
educational
component
right.
So
Kiki
Smith
has
created
a
coloring
book
so
that
we
would
be
able
to
distribute
coloring
pages
to
all
the
restaurants,
so
that
adults
and
children
can
color
and
tie
in.
D
D
C
A
Take
any
questions
all
right,
yeah!
Thank
you
very
much.
Both
of
you
I
just
wanted
to
start
off
that
I
think
it's
a
very
exciting
project
and
I'm
quite
sure
that
we,
the
public,
Arts
commission,
will
be
fully
supportive
of
it.
So
one
particular
question
as
far
as
funding
goes,
which
we
would
consider,
probably
in
our
February
or
March
meeting,
would
we
be
able
to
have
a
specific
artist,
perhaps
Gerald
Clark
or
someone
who
is
local
and
designate
our
funding
specifically
to
that
aspect
of
the
whole
project?
C
C
We
have
actually
spoken
to
General
Clark.
In
fact,
we
we
love
him
and
he's
he's
going
to
be
involved
in
another
public
art
event.
That'll
be
announced
in
just
a
couple
of
weeks,
so
it
might,
we
might
not
be
able
to
get
Gerald's,
but
we
are
talking
to
a
couple
of
major
players
out
here.
In
addition
to
Geraldton
he's,
certainly
not
out
of
the
question.
The
tribe,
of
course,
is
interested
in
Gerald
as
well.
Sir,
all.
E
A
G
Yeah
also
really
excited
about
the
prospects
and
potential
here.
I
guess.
My
only
question
right
now
is:
how
would
this
integrate
with
the
public
art
that's
already
downtown,
and
would
we
need
to
adjust
on
the
commission
any
projects
that
we
have
planned
for
the
downtown
area
that
might
I
don't
know,
overlap
or
interfere
with
this
particular
event,
and
for
how
long
would
this
be
running
so.
C
D
And
I
think
curatori.
We
want
to
definitely
dovetail
each
other's
artwork
right
yeah.
If
people
you
know
if
my
students
from
the
Bay
Area
come
I
want
them
to
see
not
only
our
exhibition
but
more
art
and
go
to
Studios
and
galleries.
But
you
know
once
we
start
working
on
locations
and
we're
able
to
see
where
we
need
to
put
work
right.
D
So
we
did
it
in
a
very
walkable
area,
thinking
that
in
the
first
year
should
be
more
walkable
and
then
the
second
year
it
could
be
more
drivable
like
I,
keep
thinking
something
should
be
at
near
City
Hall.
Somebody
should
be
at
the
airport
and
you
know
other
other
areas,
but
all
of
that's
totally
up
for
discussion.
Yeah.
E
I
do
have
something
to
ask:
I
was
just
at
illuminate.
San
Francisco
and
I
specifically
went
there,
because
I
wanted
to
do
something
in
Palm
Springs,
similar
to
that
we
have
something.
You've
answered
one
of
my
questions
about
the
time
frame
that
you're
talking
about,
because
it
has
to
be
during
the
darker
months
here.
So
you've
answered
that
question.
E
E
C
One
of
the
most
amazing
pieces
in
this
show
is,
is
the
pedicabs
that
are
decked
out
with
the
handmade:
silk,
silk,
lanterns
and
and
the
community
can
jump
on
one
of
these
things
and
go
from
one
end
of
Palm
Canyon
to
the
other
and
or
they
can
go
down
to
Spencer's
or
they
can.
You
know,
there's
that
route
that
it's
a
great
way
to
see.
A
C
D
A
piece
that
we
would
fantasize
at
some
element
of
it
was
acquired
by
the
city
and
you
can
all
Google
it
it's
Fireflies
by
psycho
Chang.
We
were
commissioned
to
do
it
for
the
Centennial
Celebration
of
Benjamin
Franklin
Parkway
in
Philadelphia.
After
that
it
went
to
Baltimore
and
had
over
400
000
visitors
opening
weekend.
E
I
would
like
to
add
also
too
that
I
did
meet
with
an
artist
here.
Who
does
light
shows
he
just
did
one
for
pride
and
we
did
look
at
sites
downtown
if
you're
interested
and
throughout
the
area,
including
Francis
Stevens,
if
you're
interested
in
some
of
those
sites
I
can
give
that
information
to
you
I.
A
H
C
That's
a
that's
a
good
point
and
when
I
can
show
you
the
videos
on
there
you'll
see
that
a
few
of
these
pieces
are
very
interactive,
including
the
the
robotic
one
that
the
public
can
control
when
make
their
own
light
designs.
There's
all
kinds
of
things
that
are
interactive
here
so
but
I
I
appreciate
that
comment,
and
we
will
absolutely
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
Pare
down
the
artists.
C
H
More
quick
thing
in
the
beginning
of
this
whole,
if
we
approve
and
all
this
stuff
in
the
beginning,
I
think
it's
very
important
that
the
city
has
especially
it
would
be
really
symbolic
with
lights,
to
do
some
kind
of
City
blessing
or
some
kind
of
unity
thing
just
so.
The
whole
city
comes
together
on
one
page,
everybody's
been
through
a
lot
with
you
know
the
pandemic
and
it'd
be
really
nice
to
make
this
something
that
people
could
really
Rejoice
at.
That's.
H
A
A
A
C
A
Let's
move
on
to
our
next
item
D,
which
is
the
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
I,
would
like
to
make
one
edition
if
commissioner
new
Kirk
and
if
Jay,
if
you
think
this
is
a
suitable
item,
H
number
six
discuss
and
approve
the
community
Grant
five
thousand
dollars
for
Old
Las,
Palmas,
neighborhood,
art,
Grant
I
would
like
to
add
and
approve
their
phase:
one
installation
red
dragon
by
delos
van
Earl
being
that
the
community
has
already
selected
the
artwork
and
the
artist
our
funds
are
already
approved
by
the
cities.
A
A
Second,
all
right,
all
in
favor
aye
all
right,
then
we'll
move
on
to
public
comments.
Item
e
this
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
public
Arts
Commission
on
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
and
agenda
items
if
the
member
of
the
public
cannot
be
present
later
in
the
meeting
at
the
time.
The
item
was
heard
by
the
commission.
Additionally,
members
of
the
public
May
address
the
commission
on
each
item
listed
on
the
posted
agenda
at
the
time.
Each
item
is
heard.
A
A
I
just
want
to
announce
very
happily
that
the
RFP
for
re
for
moving
the
Clement
sculptures
has
been
completed
and
signature
sculpture
has
been
awarded
that
contract,
so
their
the
city
is
in
the
stages
of
writing
up
the
contract
with
them.
So
we
will
see
movement
on
the
commence
sculptures
very
soon,
which
is
a
very
happy
thing
to
report.
A
Also,
the
asphalt
art
project
funds
were
con
were
con
approved
by
the
council
last
week
and
we
do
have
the
extension
of
Tyson,
Knight
or
repairs
to
our
benches
and
utility
boxes
and
other
random
repairs
through
June
the
30th.
While
we
do
the
request
for
proposal
for,
but
for
that
maintenance
and
then
I
just
want
to
have
all
of
the
Commissioners
consider
for
our
February
meeting.
A
We
need
to
find
a
home
for
the
lounge
chair
installation,
which
is
currently
in
storage
and
also
consider
again,
sites
for
intersecting
cubes
and
in
between
now
on
our
February
meeting
or
March.
Meeting
I
will
get
quotes
from
signature
sculpture
for
the
relocation
of
those
to
our
pieces,
but
certainly
the
lawn
chair
excuse
me
because
it's
it's
in
storage
and
it
would
be
nice
to
get
it
out
of
the
yard
and
back
in
public
View.
A
A
Text
Ryan
Campbell,
so
you
can
join
us.
Excuse
me,
my
voice
is
bad.
So
item
number
one
is
discussion,
approved
purchase
of
an
art,
installation,
titled
crawler
in
the
amount
of
126
and
500
126
500
of
artist
Ryan
Campbell
to
be
installed
on
the
west
end
of
Museum
way
at
the
intersection
of
Museum
Drive
foreign
have
sent
out
the
brief
on
why
I
want
to
do
this
installation
and
with
this
artist
and
with
this
location,
so
as
Ryan
joined
us
yeah,
okay,
I.
A
I
So
my
background
comes
from
painting,
murals
and
making
sculptures
I
moved
to
the
desert
20
years
ago,
and
I've
been
here
making
artwork
and
public
art
ever
since
I've
worked
in
several
Studios
and
now
over
the
last
five
years,
I've
been
working
in
my
own
studio
in
Cathedral
City.
The
piece
that
I'm
presenting
today
is
one
of
my
series
of
Crawlers.
I
It
was
given
that
name
because
it
has
a
sense
of
looking
like
it
wants
to
get
up
and
crawl
away
as
a
very
kind
of
almost
kinetic
look,
but
the
piece
is
stationary
and
the
idea
of
these
Works
were
created
to
be
Monumental
scale
pieces
pieces
that
a
viewer
can
actually
step
inside
of
and
become
actively
a
part
of.
The
piece,
I
feel
like
that's
very
much
like
our
desert
that
we
get
into
the
desert
and
everybody
wants
to
crawl
around
and
learn
and
be
involved
in
the
desert.
I
So
my
color
choices
for
this
piece
are
what
you're
seeing
right
now
is
an
animation
of
a
piece
that
has
a
highly
changing
automotive
finish.
That
creates
a
gradient
based
on
the
viewers
location
in
proximity
to
the
piece,
the
pieces
plan
to
be
12
feet
tall
so
that
a
person
can
stand
inside.
Of
that
beautiful
little
opening.
F
Hi
Ryan
I
I,
really
like
the
piece
I
guess.
My
question
is:
I
love
the
the
evolving
colors.
But
what
would
we
do
or
how
would
you
handle
with
say
somebody
climbing
onto
this
thing?
You
know
sure
yeah,
because
it
look
it
it's
big.
It
looks
like
playground,
equipment
and
it's
sort
of
looking
like
people
could
climb
up
it.
F
I
So,
ultimately,
a
great
way
to
preserve
those
pieces,
and
that
particular
piece
is
to
include
signage
saying:
please
do
not
crawl
or
climb
on
public
art.
Unfortunately,
public
art
left
in
public
places
does
invite
people
to
make
their
own
use
of
it
at
the
scale
that
it's
at
it
is
possible
for
someone
to
climb
it,
but
I
feel
like
given
the
nature
of
the
piece
and
situated
on
top
of
a
pedestal.
I
A
I'll
just
make
one
comment
to
that
question
as
well:
having
done
public
art
installations
in
the
city
park
in
San
Francisco
for
seven
years,
many
of
the
pieces
were
of
similar
nature
that
could
be
climbed
onto
we
did,
as
Ryan
said
we
just
had
on
the
signage.
Please
do
not
climb
on
the
art
or
something
specific
that
matter.
A
There
will
always
be
people
climbing
on
it,
whether
you
tell
them
to
or
not
to,
but
we
found
that
here
that
we
were
very
fortunate
people
who
are
using
the
park
if
they
saw
somebody
disrespecting
the
art
and
climbing
on
it.
They
would
generally
make
a
comment
to
that
person
like
dude
get
off
the
art,
so
that's
just
something
it's
just
something
that
will
simply
happen,
and
the
construction
of
this
piece
is
so
solid
that
it's
not
going
to
be
damaged.
The
person
might,
but
the
city
has
insurance
for
that.
So.
F
I
That
absolutely
so
the
Finish
is
intended
to
be
an
automotive
finish,
and
that
fits
very
easily
in
your
already
existing
maintenance
plan
and
signature
sculpture
is
fantastic
at
caring
for
that
kind
of
Peace,
particularly,
we
would
put
an
extra
heavy
heavy
clear
coat
on
the
piece
to
ensure
that
no
chips
or
gouges
would
would
come
about
and
in
the
event
of
some
kind
of
unforeseen
issue,
then
I
would
or
myself
or
a
studio,
member
or
possibly
even
signature
sculpture
would
go
out
and
make
the
repair
right
away.
Yeah.
A
G
H
H
I
H
E
I
E
The
other
question
I
have
is
really
about
the
placement
and
that's
for
Russell
I
have
concerns
about
the
placement
Russell,
because
that
particular
area
with
Maryland
has
seen
legal
issues
with
both
the
city
and
the
purchaser
of
Maryland.
So
how
can
we
protect
ourselves
and
with
the
city
permit
this
piece
to
go
there.
A
Well,
that's
part
of
our
process.
We
come
up
with
the
project.
We
approve
the
budget
and
the
project
and
city
council
and
the
mayor
have
final
approval
on
it,
so
we
have
to
leave
them
up
there
and
and
give
the
strong
pitch
for
it
and
I
certainly
yeah.
There
are
legal
issues
with
the
forever
Maryland
installation,
but
that's
because
things
were
done
without
due
process.
We
are
following
due
process.
A
No
this
this
is
where
I
wanted
to
be.
If
city
council
has
an
issue
with
it,
then
we'll
deal
with
it,
then
okay,
thank
you
not
to
be
too
direct,
but
be
direct.
So
all
right.
So
if
no
one
has
any
other
questions,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
budget
of
126
I,
can't
really
say
the
about
1500
for
artist,
Ryan
Campbell,
for
purchasing
installation
of
crawler
at
Museum
way
and
then
Museum
Drive,
so
I
have
a
second.
Second,
all
in
favor.
A
H
B
G
Yes,
thank
you.
So
we've
discussed
this
event
and
this
grant
at
our
meeting
last
month,
so
we
don't
I'm
not
going
to
rehash.
All
of
that,
we
did
send
the
proposal
with
the
agenda
and
then
today
you
should
have
all
received
some
artist,
Concepts
and
Shan.
Carr
is
here
again
to
talk
about
the
work
that
she's
been
doing
and
the
work
that
she
and
other
neighbors
have
been
doing
to
to
drum
up
artists
interest
in
this
project.
So
I'll.
Let
her
discuss
that.
J
Hello,
thank
you
for
having
me
back
again,
and
we
did
you
know
it
was
a
fairly
rapid
fire
submission
process
and
I
reached
out
and
honestly
I
didn't
even
have
the
grant
right
because
we
were
trying
to
do
both
the
submission
and
the
grants,
both
at
once
this
month.
So
I'm
amazed
that
a
very
broad
spectrum
of
people
submitted
and
then
the
suggestion
was
I.
J
Think
from
the
Arts
commission
that
the
community
vote
I
found
17,
very
different
neighbors
and
the
mayor
and
a
couple
other
people
to
throw
their
votes
in.
You
saw
them.
I,
think
and
Diane
I
think
you're
already
familiar
with
her
amazing.
Above
all,
everybody
and
then
second
came
Manny,
which
I
was
completely
surprised
by
because
it
looks
like
a
weird
little
pencil
drawing
so
I'm
really
impressed
that
the
neighbors
figured
out
how
talented
he
really
is
beyond
that
little
I
might
not
have
right.
J
J
One
are
those
two
little
kids
that
she
was
gonna
paint
bent
over
the
bench
from
two
sides,
and
one
was
sort
of
the
homage
to
Frida,
Kahlo
and
the
tiles,
and
so
she
got
as
many
votes
as
the
other
two
with
the
preference
for
the
Frida
Kahlo.
One
and
Isidro
is
a
third
generation.
Mexican
family
guy
just
had
his
first
kid,
and
that
was
the
Chicano
art
with
the
Mexican
symbolism,
and
somebody
got
it
there.
J
We
go
that
one
is
a,
is
a
Cedro,
the
one
above
it,
so
the
three
in
contention
are
a
Sedro
and
the
next
one
is
we
have
Denny
next
on
there.
If
you
scroll
down
right,
that's
Denny's
work
which
again
he
had
no
idea
how
to
pitch
a
bench
that
he
would
paint,
but
that's
what
he
did
and
almost
everybody
who
voted
for
him
voted
for
the
rainbow
thing
and
then
the
last
one
is
that
Jamie
O'neill
won
and
most
people
voted
for
the
Frida
Kahlo.
J
J
So
it's
two
benches
and
two
tables
and
we're
giving
them
1500
for
the
tables.
They
won't
be
at
the
same
placement
but
they're
in
the
same
area
of
tables.
So
two
people
will
do
a
bench
and
two
people
will
do
a
table.
We
wanted
to
create.
You
know
conversational
attraction
to
this
seating
area,
yeah
I,.
A
Yeah
I
think
what
what
would
be
a
good
thing
for
us
to
do
is
just
move
forward
with
this
firmly
expressed
that
the
community
should
do
the
selection
of
the
other
artists
for
the
project,
because
we
have
the
funds
the
funds
are
already
approved
through
Council
to
be
spent.
So
all
we
need
to
do
is
just
to
prove
that
we're
going
to
give
you
the
5000
that
it's
done
so
and
then
we
can,
in
the
future,
look
at
other
benches
that
are
in
the
park
and
make
that
a
separate
project.
Okay,.
J
So
I
have
two
questions
in
getting
it
done.
One
I
really
again,
because
I
apologize
for
not
being
an
Arts
person,
I
didn't
even
think
about
the
fact
that
the
benches
have
to
be
prepped
and
primed
to
be
painted.
I
did
talk
to
Tyson
about
that,
and
he
gave
me
a
bid
to
prep
and
paint
two
benches
and
two
tables
for
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
J
A
Not
about
to
ask
you
a
question
if
we
can
amend
the
amount
because
of
5
000
grad
is
approved,
I
mean
we
could
add
fifteen
hundred
dollars
for
Tyson
to
work
with
the
neighborhood
for
prepping
and
working
with
the
artist.
But
amazing.
Do
you
think
that
that's
something
that
the
city
manager's
office
could
approve
without
it
having
to
be
a
staff
report
and
go
to
the
city
council.
B
D
A
A
Right,
bye,
all
right,
so
we're
going
to
move
on
to
just
item
number
three,
which
used
to
be
number
six
discuss
and
approve
the
community.
Granted
me
the
amount
of
five
thousand
dollars
for
Old
Las,
Palmas,
neighborhood
Grant.
Excuse
me
and
approve
their
phase:
one
installation
red
dragon
by
delouse,
Van
Earl,
commissioner
Newkirk.
K
K
Collection
that
we
are
starting
with
this
piece,
the
red
dragon
and
then
we'll,
hopefully,
add
to
that
along
the
way.
I
believe
you
saw
pictures
of
some
of
the
other
potential
pieces
that
we
could
develop
along
the
line.
So
we
would
love
your
approval
for
the
this
five
thousand
dollars,
which
is
just
a
small
portion
of
what
the
piece
will
be
costing
and
we
will
as
an
organization.
K
A
Would
yeah
no
I
think
it's
a
brilliant
concept
and
I
actually
just
to
refresh
my
visual
memory,
I
drove
past
or
all
along
the
median
this
afternoon
coming
home
from
work
and
I
could
just
see
all
of
these
wonderful
colorful
things
lining
the
whole
strip
of
the
median,
so
I
think
it's
a
brilliant
concept.
I,
like
the
whole,
the
whole
thing,
and
we
would
for
future
phases
once
this
one
is
done,
certainly
come
back
to
us
for
more
support
and
funding,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
project.
F
Have
a
quick
one:
well
first,
I
want
to
congratulate
commissioner
new
Kirk
and
for
you
as
well
I
think
this
is
exactly
the
sort
of
work
we
should
be
doing
where
you
know
we're
one
of
the
smallest
commissions.
We've
only
got
five
Commissioners
and
there's
a
lot
demanded
of
us.
So
we
need
communities
like
yours
and
I
know
what
commissioner
Fabo
is
presenting
later.
That's
how
we
should
be
working.
You
know
we
should
be
the
Hub,
but
my
question
Jay
is
we're
giving
them
the
money
a
portion
of
the
money
for
this
project.
F
F
A
K
E
A
H
G
H
Yes,
I
believe
that
Jay
sent
the
information
there's
a
list
of
artists
that
are
gonna,
be
at
this
event,
there's
also
food
and
music
and
there's
a
lot
of
components
to
it
and
we're
SP
we're
spending
a
small
part
of
it.
We
they
wanted
us
to
be
equal
partners
and
when
this
first
went
out,
the
the
amount
was
lower.
H
But
in
order
for
us
to
be
complete
Partners,
it
would
be
more
close
to
three
thousand
dollars,
but
this
is
what's
on
the
docket
to
be
approved.
So
it's
a
matter
of
just
giving
the
black
history
committee
the
money.
So
then
the
we
can
collaborate
with
the
museum
Distributing
the
money
to
the
artist
all.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
well,
let's,
let's
amend
it
for
that
amount
with
the
provision
that
these
funds
are
for
the
creation
of
art,
specifically
because
we
can't
fund
like
dance
performances
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
as
long
as
it
goes
for
the
creation
of
art,
then
I'm
fine,
with
changing
the
dollar
amount.
Perfect.
H
H
F
It's
well
as
I
said:
I
think
that
this
is
the
sort
of
thing
we
should
be
doing
more
of
you
know
engaging
with
the
community
and
Community
organizations,
but
at
the
same
time,
to
back
up
Russell's
point:
we
you
know
our
ordinance
estate.
We
can
only
sponsor
visual
art,
we
can't
do
Performing
Arts,
unfortunately,
and
those
are
the
rules
that
we
have,
so
we
just
need
to
be
very
specific
that
this
is
for
visual
art.
Only
now
event
budgets
are
fungible.
They
can
shift
things
around.
H
F
A
F
Yeah,
you
know,
we've
discussed
this
for
the
past
couple
months,
there's
not
much
more
to
add
everybody's
seen
the
write-up.
We
just
need
to
get
the
budget
approved,
so
we
can
then
go
to
council
and
get
this
approved,
and
then
we
need
to
do
a
call
for
artists
right.
Okay,
so
this
is
formality.
Yeah.
F
A
A
F
Yes
again,
this
was
very
quickly:
I
had
a
very
solid
meeting
with
the
airport
commission,
they're
really
interested
in
art.
They
really
want
to
get
us
engaged
in
art
in
multiple
ways.
As
an
aside,
they
are
going
through
a
redesign
of
the
airport
they're.
Currently
at
this
like
right
at
this
moment
talking
about
expanding
the
airport,
they're
redoing,
the
upper
Concourse,
where
the
Chihuly
pieces
were
that's,
going
to
be
a
dining
bar
area,
so
the
Chihuly
pieces
are
going
to
be
moving.
F
There's
talk
of
expanding
and
doing
other
concession
stands
and
other
areas
of
the
artwork.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
opportunity,
but
there's
not
many
venues
for
us
to
do
artwork.
So
the
a
lot
of
the
big
push
for
art
is
going
to
be
once
the
renovation
is
done,
so
that
could
be
they
haven't.
Even
you
know,
finalized
a
design
and
done
the
bid
for
contract.
F
Those
are
very
high
traffic
spots
right
where
Adam
is
the
head
of
the
museum
is
where
the
JFK
bust
is
so
there's
a
lot
of
people
coming
back
and
forth,
so
the
thinking
was
the
the
and
actually,
the
regional
terminal
which
this
is
is
the
higher
traffic
terminal.
Now
so,
as
soon
as
people
come
off
the
flight,
they
go
to
the
bathroom
they'll
see
this
mural
or
before
they
go
to
the
get
on
their
flight.
They
will
see
this
mural
there
as
well.
Okay,.
A
F
Very
Artful
yeah,
you
know
they
they
kept
referencing
in
the
two
conversations
I've
had
with
them.
They
referenced
the
San
Francisco
Airport.
They
like
the
fact
that
it's
an
evolving
gallery
of
work
inside
again
they
have
more
of
a
bigger
footprint
than
we
do,
but
they're
they're
interested
in
doing
some
really
Dynamic
things.
F
My
guess
is
a
lot
of
it
was
donated
and
the
museum
just
said:
let's
put
it
in
the
airport
yeah,
you
know
it's,
you
know
some
somebody
donates
it
to
the
museum
and
then
they
say
put
in
the
airport,
so
none
of
none
of
the
artwork
was
designed
to
be
there
and
none
of
the
pieces
were
chosen
to
be
in
that
particular
architectural
location,
so
I
imagine
there
will
be
some
decommissioning
coming
along
or
moved
into
storage
once
the
renovations
are
done.
Yeah.
A
A
A
If
you're
listening,
I
did
reach
out
to
David,
whose
bumblebee
artist-
and
he
will
work
within
this
proposed
budget,
so
that's
approved
I
have
always
wanted
to
work
with
him
to
do
the
large
wall
and
the
Hyatt
so
like
a
big,
huge
mural,
but
going
forward.
This
would
be
a
good
place
to
start
but
anyway,
so
it's
the
budget
and
the
artist
because
we're
like
20
minutes
so.
A
A
A
B
Right
hi
Commissioners
at
the
November
10th
city
council
meeting
when
we
had
the
wow,
sculpture
and
popsicles
approved
the
city
council
requested
that
future
purchases
have
some
type
of
valuation
or
appraisal
performed
on
them.
So
this
is
a
request
to
have
issued
an
RFP
to
get
an
appraiser
on
board
for
the
Arts
commission
to
Value
works
of
art
that
are
purchased
in
the
future,
and
it's
suggested
that
the
amount
be
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
F
B
F
B
B
A
But
just
going
backwards
a
little
bit
with
the
because
the
council
asked
about
this
came
up
because
of
wow
and
popsicles.
We
did
have
all
of
the
information
on
materials
artisty
and
whatever,
which
Justified
the
cost
of
the
piece,
but
anyway,
all
right.
So
well,
I'm,
fine
with
that,
because
if
the
city
wants
it,
then
that's
fine.
H
H
A
B
Just
have
a
panel
of
people
we
could
go
to
so
that
based
on
their
availability,
you
know
maybe
one
get
out
there
sooner
than
the
other,
or
maybe
we
just
go
down
a
list
and
rotate,
but
I
think
instead
of
having
to
renew
the
agreement
with
one
individual
every
six
months,
we'll
have
someone
or
a
couple
people
on
board
for
a
longer
period
of
time.
Yeah.
A
A
Yes,
all
right
so
I'll
make
the
motion
that
we
approve
the
issuance
of
an
RFP
to
solicit
on
call
minor
or
repairs
and
maintenance
services,
categories,
benches,
utility
boxes
and
vandalism.
The
budget
amount
is
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
for
a
three-year
contract,
with
two
one-year
additional
periods
of
time.
J
A
H
Yeah,
where
this
is
right
now
is
just
with
I,
would
have
to
get
together
with
commissioner
Armstrong
to
figure
out
the
logistics
of
this,
because
the
the
artist
is
saying
that
the
materials
they
use
would
resurface.
The
the
basketball
court
but
I
understand
that
there's
something
that
parks
and
recs
needs
to
resurface.
The
basketball
court
first
before
they
can
paint
on
it.
So
that's
where
it
is
I
I
really
would
like
to
know
where
it
goes
from
there,
because
I
mean
if
we're.
A
A
Right
well
then,
my
suggestion
would
that
would
be
that
commissioner
Armstrong
and
commissioner
Pablo
you
chat
offline,
because
two
of
you
can't
discuss
this
I
think
even
though
it's
been
an
agenda
item
offline
to
get
the
yeah
the
specifics
and
then
because
clearly
it's
the
courts
need
to
have
service
work
done
and
Gary.
Commissioner
Armstrong
has
information
from
where
I
can
park
on
that.
So
then
it
can
be.
It
can
come
back
to
us
when
it's
feasible,
yeah.
F
And
I
I
had
coffee
with
Yvonne
Weiss
who's,
the
head
of
Parks
and
Recreation
last
week,
and
she
said
that
there's
currently
no
plans
to
resurface
them,
but
what
she
would
do
is
get
me
an
estimate
on
not
only
what
it
would
cost,
but
the
timing
involved
with
that
how
long
it
takes
and
I
think
what
we
can
do.
Sean
does
in
the
meantime,
I'll
set
up
a
meeting
with
Yvonne
and
we
can
go
in
and
discuss
the
overall
project
as
well.
She
said
they
have
an
overall
beautification
timetable.
F
H
A
H
Yes
and
I
believe
everybody
has
all
the
information
on
the
basketball
courts
and
the
numbers
on
the
bird
bath.
I
think
Jay
sent
everybody
all
that
information
the
bird
bath
project
at
the
first.
There
is
a
turtle
pond,
that's
at
the
joj.
The
equipment
is
still
attached
to
everything
and
they
manually
turn
that
on
and
off
the
city
has
turned
it
off.
H
So
that's
where
this
idea
originated
from
that
it
would
be
something
that
would
be
turned
on
and
that
particular
thing
has
a
timer
that
it
can
turn
on
and
off
and
it
would
be
turned
on
once
a
month
to
fill
or,
however
long
that
the
birds
make
the
water
go
away,
it
would
be
turned
on
it's
just
a
giant
big
bird
bird
bath
in
order
to
bring
people
of
all
ages
together.
So
birds
of
a
feather
can
flock
together.
Palm
Springs
is
a
is
you
know
the
city
of
snowbirds
and
all
that
stuff.
H
A
Oh,
but
certainly
yeah,
it's
a
a
cool
concept,
but
the
thing
is
we
would
have
to
work
with
wrecking
park
because
it
would
need
to
be
cited
in
a
park
so
determining
the
site
and
the
feasibility
of
the
access
to
water.
And
all
of
that
is
a
major
component
to
this,
because
it
seems
historical.
The
city
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
success
with
fountains.
A
G
H
G
H
Really
hobnob
with
the
uppity
UPS
in
order
to
try
to
figure
that
out,
I,
don't
know
how
hard
licensing
is,
but
I
I'm,
hoping
the
lead
that
I
have.
That
has
a
direct
connection
to
maybe
able
to
help
us
out,
but
that's
it's.
This
is
just
a
huge
Pie
in
the
Sky
dream.
I'd
like
to
come
true
and
if
you
know
Follow,
That
Bird
wants
to
follow,
hit
to
Palm
Springs
and
we
get
a
movie
made
on
our
city
and
the
bird
coming
here.
That's
you
know
whatever.
So
it's
it's
a
long-term
goal.
H
H
F
I
will
caution
that
something
like
big
bird,
the
parks
department
could
fund,
but
I,
don't
think
we
can
fund
it
with
public
Arts
money
because
viewed
as
a
mass-produced
piece
of
art
and
we're
not
allowed
to
fund
that,
so
it
doesn't
mean
we
couldn't
find
a
unique
bird,
but
we
can't
fund
things
that
are
limited
edition
that
way
or
mass
additions.
I
should
say
so.
That
would
be
my
hesitation
not
not
on
the
concept
of
a
bird
but
big
bird
itself.
Well,.
F
E
F
F
F
H
Oh
on
that
note,
there
is
a
Cat
in
the
Hat
one
that
is
at
the
joj.
That's
deteriorating
I,
don't
know
if
who
needs
to
put
that
on
the
docket
in
order
for
that
to
be
updated,
I
don't
know
if
that
needs
to
be
painted
through
parks
and
recs
or
if
it
needs
to
be
painted
through
public
Arts,
but
it's
faded
pretty
badly
I,
don't
know
how
they
got
that
Cat
in
the
Hat
there.
But
maybe
we
can.
You
know
figure
that
out
when
we
have
our
well.
A
H
F
A
A
E
Do
have
a
question
or
a
comment
and
I'm
going
to
direct
this
toward
Jay
or
Russell
and
Russell.
You
touched
upon
this
earlier
and
Sean
asked
a
question
about
it,
and
the
answer
may
be
too
long
for
us
to
go
into
tonight.
In
November's
meeting
we
were
told
that
we
had
1.3
million
in
our
budget,
but
when
I
asked
Jay
earlier
we
actually
have
496
thousand
dollars.
So
my
question
is:
how
do
we
get
funded
as
these
projects
Move
Along?
Does
the
city
just
fund
the
projects?
How
does
that
work?
No.
A
The
funding
comes
out
of
our
budget
and
let's
do
a
full
budget
report
in
our
February
meeting,
because
the
dollar
amount
that
we
were
told
was
I,
I
remembered
as
1.2.
That's
why
we
moved
forward
with
improving
the
full
budget
for
the
rich
Richard
Wyatt
mural,
but
it
comes
out
of
a
development
process
and
our
fiscal
year
is
from
July
1
to
the
end
of
June,
and
then
we
get
the
budget
rollover
so
right.
B
That
that's
correct,
so
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
I
think
we've
all
learned
that
there's
an
estimate,
our
finance
department
tells
us
how
much
you
think
we'll
get
in
funding
for
public
Arts
budget
from
from
development
activity,
plus
the
unspent
dollars
from
the
prior
year
rollover.
So
there's
a
starting
point:
that's
the
initial
budget
and
then
there's
various
amendments
to
that.
A
H
B
H
F
So
then
Jay
for
the
Wyatt
did
we
I
I
didn't
see
the
contract,
but
was
there
a
break
of
it
because
he
signs
a
contract,
hopefully
soon
we're
you
know
heading
into
February.
He
then
does
the
preliminary
artwork.
It
takes
a
year
to
manufacture
the
tiles,
and
then
installation
will
happen
six
months
after
that
and
we
pay
a
certain
amount
of
completion
so
that
very
easily
could
be
in
2024
2025..