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B
C
C
B
And
opposed
okay.
This
is
the
time
for
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
measure,
Jay
Commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Although
the
measure
Jay
Commission
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
or
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
You
will
have
three
minutes
for
each
speaker.
Do
we
have
anyone
from
the
public?
B
B
Well,
welcome
everybody
and
happy
Halloween
and
once
again
thank
you
for
juggling
schedules
that
were
having
a
meeting
on
our
off
off
date
here,
just
a
few
quick
items.
If
you
got
an
email
from
a
Monique
from
staff,
please
make
sure
that
you
take
that
ethics
class.
That's
offered
online,
you
click
on
the
link
and
it
does
take
a
minimum
of
two
hours.
So
if
you
haven't
done
that,
that
is
due
by
December
and
I
know,
that
seems
like
a
while
away.
B
C
B
All
right,
great
I,
do
realize
that
the
materials
related
to
the
projects
update
that
we're
going
to
be
going
over
today,
we're
not
sending
an
advance,
so
I
expect
that
this
topic
might
carry
over
into
our
November
meeting,
which
is
only
in
two
weeks.
So,
even
though
we
didn't
have
a
chance
to
really
look
at
it,
we
can
kind
of
delve
into
that
today
and
I'm
sure
this
will
be
something
that
will
carry
over.
Also
do
this
a
miscommunication.
B
D
B
A
B
I
think
the
first
happens
on
a
Thursday.
That's
why
yeah,
which
is
tomorrow,
and
that
will
be
our
first
regular,
scheduled
medium
for
the
year
and
also
at
that
meeting.
We
can
decide
whether
we
want
to
have
a
December
meeting.
So
just
think
about
that.
We're
not
going
to
vote
on
it
today,
we'll
just
kind
of
see
what
with
all
these
reporting's
and
if
we
want
to
have
a
meeting
in
December
again
it
is
close
to
Christmas,
and
that
I
believe
is
all
that
I
have
from
my
side
of
things.
B
A
B
B
D
That's
not
actually
on
your
agenda.
What
I
would
recommend
is
an
under
city
manager,
report,
I'm,
gonna,
ask
that
question
and
from
the
feedback
that
I
get
I
will
then
make
a
decision,
whether
my
believe
of
that
you
should
have
a
meeting
or
not
so
I
think
that
might
be
a
way
to
get
you
to
where
you
want
to
be
perfect.
B
D
Well,
let
me
start
first
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I
haven't
I've
been
joined.
You
for
a
while,
so
I
wanted
to
come
in
and
just
give
you
an
update
on
a
couple
of
matters,
but
I
do
have
one
order
of
business
first,
as
you
know,
the
holidays
are
coming
and
we
do
have
some
issues
with
the
boards
and
commissions
and
I
was
just
curious
if
there's
any
opinions,
one
way
or
the
other.
If
you
wanted
to
have
your
December
meeting.
D
B
D
B
Well,
I
mean,
while
my
mic
is
on
I'm
all
for
having
a
meeting
in
December
I'm,
probably
available
at
this
point
on
the
20th,
but
we
could
you
know
Ariana
can
look
to
see
when
this
room
is
available
and
do
it
either
earlier
that
same
week
or
the
week
before
again,
that's
just
a
little
bit
of
juggling
so
I'll.
Take
any
other
comments.
D
We
just
notice,
if
you
wanted
to
you,
know
you
figure
out
a
day
that
you
want
it.
If
you
don't
have
a
quorum,
we
could
cancel
it
or
you
could
go
with.
Even
if
you
don't
have
a
quorum,
you
could
go
with
just
informational.
So
those
are
some
options.
You
can
have
it's
a
placeholder
and
then
you
can
always
cancel
later
I.
F
C
C
D
G
C
B
G
D
So
it
seems
to
me
everyone's
available
on
the
13th
so
we'll
make
it
will
plan
on
the
13th
of
December,
and
we
will
find
you,
the
appropriate
location,
will
sort
of
issue
for
here-
okay,
great
so
around,
if
you
could
just
check
the
availability
great.
Thank
you
good.
The
other
thing
I
did
want
to
just
let
the
Commission
know.
C
D
That
being
said,
is
I
very
appreciative
that
5a
you're
going
to
appoint
a
subcommittee
to
work
with
the
council
to
review
the
capital
projects,
because
we
do
need
to
get
then
some
big
decisions
back
to
you
for
some
final
decisions,
particularly
now
that
you
sort
of
have
this
true
up
and
Marcus
we'll
go
through
this
with
you.
Obviously
you
just
got
it.
This
will
be
a
subject
of
your
next
meeting
as
well,
joining
the
subcommittee
and
then
and
then
as
soon
as
practicable.
We
will
get
back
to
you.
C
D
H
What
you
have
before
you
is
the
multi
summary
funds
available
for
measure
J.
This
is
the
traditional
format
that
you've
seen
in
the
past.
It
says
how
much
funding
is
available
in
the
current
year
and
how
much
is
available
projected
for
future
years.
These
are
what's
in
the
budget
right
now.
The
three
million
two
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
at
the
end
of
nineteen
is
basically
what
is
up
for
discussion
when
you
meet
with
the
subcommittee
as
far
as
reallocating
money,
everything
else
is
what
was
approved
through
the
year
and
in
the
budget.
F
I
F
E
I
I
Like
the
chair,
suggested,
I
I
think
it
will
be
ripe
for
us
to
have
a
continuing
conversation
about
this
when
we
talk
about
projects
in
general
next
month,
but
you
know,
we've
tried
to
format
this
in
a
consistent
way.
This
is
I,
think
the
third
year
now
so
first
table
and
I
have
to
thank
Joelle
and
Dawn
for
going
through
the
exercise
of
all
the
Excel
spreadsheets
that
back
all
this
up,
but
so
the
2018-19
budget
is
really
not
what
that
is
that
that's
really
accumulated
cost
to
date.
I
This
is
through
this
fiscal
year,
though,
so
this
includes
the
projected
revenue
and
the
approved
budget
for
through
this
fiscal
year,
and
then
we
spent
sixty
four
point,
two
million,
so
that
leaves
the
twenty
nine
point:
seven
million
available
for
various
projects
and
debt
service,
and
then
we
have
the
set-aside
for
the
airport
you're
familiar
with
what
that
is.
Okay
and.
I
C
I
E
I
E
I
I
If
we
move
on
to
the
next
page,
we
wanted
to
highlight
for
you,
you
know:
we've
got
a
long
list
of
capital
projects
that
are
in
one
phase
or
another
moving
forward
to
completion
the
Palm
Canyon
electrical
system
just
seems
to
be
one
of
those
projects.
That's
just
the
more
you
scratch
the
surface,
the
more
you
find
out.
So
this
is
what
I
want
to
I
guess
explain.
I
It
seems
that
the
electrical
services
for
the
backbone
system
on
Palm
Canyon
in
certain
cases,
comes
from
overhead
electrical
lines
in
the
back
and
cross
in
some
form
or
fashion
private
property
to
the
street.
It's
been
a
nightmare,
trying
to
figure
out
the
solution,
because
we
want
to
rimi,
tore
everything
and
put
in
new
meters,
and
so
we've
literally
been
what
we've
engaged
with
a
new
consultant
first
of
all,
and
that
took
some
time
to
get
that
up
to
speed
and
then
just
going
through
the
process
of
working
with
Edison
to
figure.
I
This
all
out
has
been
interesting
and
we're
still
drilling
down,
because
our
new
consultant
has
told
us
it's
3.6
million
dollar
project
and
I
about
had
a
heart
attack,
but
just
so
that
you
can
understand
this
was
identified
many
years
ago
as
a
priority
project,
because
if
you've
been
there
at
village
fest,
we
really
have
problems
with
the
food
vendors,
because
the
electricity
that
they
require
further
their
booths
can't
be
sustained
efficiently.
With
our
system.
That's
down
there.
It
was
really
an
issue
before
we
went
and
real
amped
all
of
the
lamps
to
LED.
I
Now
that
we've
done
that,
that's
given
us
some
breathing
room,
but
it's
still
an
issue.
What
will
likely
happen
is
when
we
drilled
down
on
this
project.
Well,
we
will
identify
a
much
shorter
segment
where
we
have
the
biggest
problem
during
village
fest,
with
jerry-rigging
electrical,
an
electrical
system
that
can
work
for
the
vendors
down
there
and
I.
I
Don't
know
if
that's
from
talk
whatz
to
rhiness
or
if
it's
talk
what's
north,
but
we're
still
evaluating
that,
because,
obviously
we
don't
have
the
funding
and
to
do
the
full
length
of
that
project,
which
was
literally
from
Bristow
all
the
way
in
the
North.
Was
it
no
I
think
it
went
all
the
way
up
to
mato,
but.
I
The
police
department
fire
station
rehabilitation,
the
those
are
underway,
there's
no
issues
there
with
funding
other
than
Police
Department
remodel
project
is
out
of
contract
time
and
I
would
just
leave
it
at
that.
There's
legal
issues
there
that
we're
what
they
are
continuing
to
work
under
a
recovery
plan
and
we're
coordinating
with
the
surety
and
the
contractor
has
brought
in
new
crew.
New
superintendent-
and
you
know,
liquidated
damages
of
three
thousand
dollars
a
day
continue
to
accrue
since
September.
First,
so.
I
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
contractor
will
owe
the
city
liquidated
damages.
So
it's
a
it's
a
legal
matter
being
handled
through
the
City
Attorney's
Office
in
general.
What
I've
learned-
because
this
is
the
first
time
in
my
career,
that
we've
had
a
project
go
this
far
sideways
when
a
contractor
doesn't
perform
and
you
you
utilize
the
performance
bond,
which
is
why
you
have
it.
Then
the
surety
becomes
essentially
responsible
for
contracting
to
complete
the
project.
They
remain
obligated
to
per
the
terms
of
the
contract
for
the
price,
the
liquidated
damages
and
so
forth.
I
What
often
happens
90%
of
the
time
is.
The
surety
retains
the
same
contractor
because
they're
available
and
they're
familiar
with
the
project,
and
so
that's
the
direction
we're
going
in
and
and
we're
hopeful,
because
the
issues
with
this
project
really
were
related
to
subcontractors.
The
tiles
have
contractor
in
the
cabinet,
subcontractor
and
the
tile.
The
tile
work
is
what
really
delayed
the
project
as
far
as
it
has
so.
Those
subcontractors
have
been
released,
and
that
was
a
process
so.
I
So
we
will
continue
to
see
that
project
moving
forward
successfully,
so
the
biking
project.
So
there
is
a
half-million
and
change
left
over
for
non-motorized
transportation
plan
projects,
and
this
is
one
of
those
projects
highlighted
for
discussion
with
the
council
subcommittee,
because
I
hope
you
understand
that
at
this
point
in
time,
based
on
the
last
council
review
and
approval
of
class
2
bike
lanes
and
Road
diets,
we
have
no
more
to
install
unless
there's
another
effort
to
bring
to
Council
for
reconsideration
some
of
the
other
Road
diets
that
were
possible.
I
But
at
this
point
in
my
mind,
we're
done
with
doing
bike
lanes
now
that
doesn't
mean
there
aren't
other
No
motorized
projects
to
consider.
So
we
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
that
you
know
that
the
bike
lane
projects
are
wrapping
up
the
last
round,
the
which
was
actually
funded
with
federal
funds.
In
addition
to
measure
J
funds
and
and
as
I
mentioned
so
on,
the
on
the
back
page
you'll
see
highlighted
is
the
one
of
those
projects.
The
last
one
highlighted
actually
is
no
I'm.
I
Sorry
there's
two,
so
we
had
a
separate
account
for
the
match
for
the
federal
grant,
which
is
the
c-max
evac
bike
lanes,
and
then
we
also
have
the
one
two
three,
four
fifth
one,
no
non-motorized
transportation
biking
issues.
So
there's
you
know,
there's
a
six
hundred
thousand
change,
so
we
look
forward
to
having
a
conversation
with
you
next
month
about
how
we
might
repurpose
those
funds
or
have
you
know
we
need
direction
essentially,
is
and.
C
E
Was
allotted
to
the
non
motorized
transportation
plan,
which
subsequently
changes
to
change
to
active
transportation
plan,
so
we
started
calling
the
new
projects
ATP
projects,
so
when
I
see
the
non
motorized
transportation,
that's
why
I
wonder
if
it
was?
If
these
were
funds
from
several
years
ago,
they.
I
Are
from
several
years
ago
right,
so
there
was
a
pot
of
money
to
essentially
implement
those
active
transportation
projects.
Essentially
all
those
bike
lanes
and
many
of
them
were
implemented
because
you
take
out
parking.
You
know,
you
know
the
whole
history.
So
a
lot
of
class
two-part
bike
lanes
were
eventually
eliminated
because
you
would
eliminate
on
street
parking
so
that
we
went
through
that
process
with
Council
to
essentially
evaluate
the
non
motorized
plan.
I
Read
review
where
we
shouldn't
shouldn't
have
class
to
bike
lanes,
because
at
one
point
in
time
there
were
a
lot
of
class
to
bike
lanes
shown
on
collector
streets
like
V
escuela
and
these
other
streets,
which
would
have
wiped
out
everybody's
parking
and
those
went
to
class
three
bike
routes
with
sharrows.
So
a
lot
of
the
cost
of
what
was
anticipated
in
the
non-motorized
plan
got
reduced
because
we
did
ended
up
eliminating
a
lot
of
class
to
bike
lanes.
E
E
Proactive
in
looking
at
routes
for
bicycles
and
the
conversation
about
making
sure
routes,
existing
routes
connected
with
other
routes
and
and
a
viable
destination,
those
kinds
of
things
that
perhaps
active
bike
riders
would
be
better
able
to
talk
about
then
inactive
bike,
riders
or
not
bike
riders.
Oh
oh.
E
C
I
C
G
Question
two
questions:
actually
one:
the
Tucker's
Creek
master
plan
has
been
updated,
desert
gonna
be
some
require
for
money
in
bike
trails.
There
and
second
question:
where
is
the
city
with
their
portion
of
CV
link
commitments.
I
So
taka
Creek
master
plan.
There
was
really
never
any
funding
to
implement
it.
I
mean
there
was
leftover
money
from
the
budget
available
to
develop
the
master
plan,
but
as
I
recall,
that
talk
was
quick.
Master
plan
had
a
rough
estimate
of
many
millions
of
dollars
to
to
implement
and
there
were
efforts
years
ago
to
go
after
some
of
the
different
prop
grant
funding,
which
is
very,
very
competitive
for
those
types
of
projects,
but
so
it
that's
and
I
guess
we
jumped
ahead,
but
that's
why
one
of
those.
I
Yeah,
the
84
thousand
dollars-
that's
leftover,
that
was
the
original
I
think
there
was
like
three
hundred
thousand
budgeted
many
years
ago
to
develop
the
tacos
Creek
master
plan,
so
the
eighty
four
thousand
is
just
what's
left
over
from
that
first
phase
on
developing
that
plan,
and
you
really
can't
do
anything
with
eighty
four
thousand
as
far
as
implementation,
and
you
know
so.
The
reason
we
highlight
is
it's
just
sitting
there
and
we
don't
want
it
to
just
sit
there
for
years
and
years
and
years
so
part
of
our
discussion.
I
Perhaps
next
month
would
be
well.
Do
we
leave
it
there
and
hope
we
budget
more
money
for
actually
implementing
the
master
plan,
or
do
we
we
repurpose
it
for
another
priority
project,
but
a
telling
it
direction
from
the
Commission
and
council,
but
we've
always
been
focused
on
new
money.
So
that's
why
I
think
this
is
a
really
useful
exercise
to
look
at
what's
on
the
books
for
projects
that
are
in
the
desire
phase,
but
need
to
get
into
construction
kind
of
thing.
I
So
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
ongoing
capital
projects
and
highlight
the
2018
street
repairs.
That's
fully
funded
and
moving
forward
actively
in
construction.
The
last
project,
which
I
know
is
near
and
dear
to
some
commissioners
or
the
entire
Commission,
is
the
community
hotspots
of
projects.
So
so,
as
you
know,
there
was
3.2
million
over
three
years.
I
E
I
That
fact,
in
the
staff
report
that
went
to
Council
last
month,
the
fact
that
when
we
had
council
approved
the
C
vague
agree,
reimbursement
agreements
that
the
indicate
the
intent
was
that
for
18
19,
19
20,
those
million
dollars
a
year
would
be
the
match.
And
so,
when
we
have
the
final
conversation
with
plugging
in
the
rest
of
the
funding
for
18
19
I
will
continue
to
advocate,
as
I
did
in
the
staff
report.
That
meant
well.
E
I
And
the
new
gas
tax
so
and
we
ended
up
not
having
to
tap
into
measure
J
money
for
that
one,
as
I
recall
where
we
will
need
it
is
the
project
that's
out
to
bid
now,
which
is
the
final
two
projects
which
implements
all
of
the
improvements
from
a
motto
to
Chiva
on
Palm
Canyon,
all
the
way
down
around
the
banner
and
puts
in
all
the
streetlights
on
the
curve
where
it's
dark,
and
so
that's
that
that
project
was
us
is
a
five
million
by
0.2
million
dollar
project.
So,
oh
it's
on
my
last
so.
I
So,
just
as
a
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
we
bundled
all
of
those
hotspots
1.0
projects.
Together
we
ended
up
bidding
it.
It
was
a
1.8
million
dollar
contract
council
ultimately
did
not
award
that
and
directed
us
to
proceed
to
apply
for
ATP
cycle
4
and
don
and
bust
his
butt
and
did
a
great
application,
and
we
are
hopeful
that
we
will
get
that
funding
and
so
that
one
point
for
the
2.2
million
dollars.
I
A
E
E
Were
also
a
number
of
projects
that
that
our
engineering
department
at
the
time
studied
to
make
sure
they
warranted
what
was
suggested
for
the
project,
recognizing
that
this
is
a
community
project
and
not
that
a
cut
that's
generated
by
the
community
and
and
many
people
in
the
community,
not
engineers,
and
so
our
engineers
studied
these
projects
to
make
sure
they
were
warranted,
and
we
have
many
many
projects
that
were
not
warranted
as
requested.
So
those
projects
were
not
completed
other
than
the
$3,000
cost
of
warranty
of
doing
the
study
so
I.
A
Marcus,
just
a
recap:
if
you
guys
remember
our
last
meeting,
we
presented
you
a
table
of
the
community
hotspots,
1.0
all
the
projects
that
were
approved
for
the
three
million
dollars
and
then
in
researching
all
of
that
there
were
many
projects
that
either
like
a
traffic
signal,
didn't
meet,
warrants
or
stop
sign
warrants
or
the
neighbors
refused
to
put
sidewalks
in
front
of
their
their
properties.
So
there
was
a
bunch
of
them
that
the
money
were
never
spent,
and
so
we
finally
organized
it
and
an
easy
to
read
or
easier
to
read
items.
A
E
I
The
the
you're
talking
about
the
projects
that
we
bid
but
did
not
build
so
the
idea
is
we're,
gonna,
be
getting
the
federal
or
state
or
federal
grant,
and
it's
one
or
the
other,
but
the
ATP
cycle
for
grant
will
award
us
the
funding
to
do
that
project.
So
it's
not
that
those
sidewalks
won't
be
done.
We're
just
waiting
to
get
the
word
from
cow
that
our
grant
has
been
approved,
but.
E
Okay
and
I
appreciate
that
that
I
think
leveraging
measure
J
funds
for
grants
is
fabulous
and
a
great
return
on
investment
there,
but
we
still
budgeted
1.4
million
dollars
for
sidewalks
that
were
never
completed.
So
somehow
it
seems
like
that
money
should
be
should
continue
to
show
on
the
measure
J
plus
side
as
money
to
be
used
for
other
projects.
If
there's,
if
we're
waiting
for
I.
I
On
the
same
page,
so
there
is
money
on
there's
2.2
million
left
from
hotspots
1.0
that
has
it
been
spent
okay
and
so
that
money
is
available
because
when
I
went
to
Council
to
have
them
award
that
contract,
they
made
the
decision
that
know
at
this
point
we'd.
Rather,
you
pursue
grant
funding
for
that
and
utilize
measure
J
funds
for
other
priority
projects.
So
that's
the
that's
where
we're
at
today
and
with
the
effort
of
the
Commission
subcommittee
and
the
council
subcommittee,
we
can
have
a
discussion
on
what
that
means.
So.
I
Really
because
that's
where
it
gets
confusing,
because
that's
prior
your
money.
So
that's
why,
when
you
saw
last
month's
report,
it
got
really
confusing
because
you're
bringing
forward
all
prior
year
expenditures
and
revenues
and
monies
that
are
on
account
for
existing
projects.
And
so
that's
the
only
way
to
show
that
is
if
we
start
making
the
monthly
financial
report
much
larger
and
counting
every
dime
to
date.
F
F
I
The
money's
there
so
then
you
know
if
we,
if
we
have,
if
counsel,
if
the
commissioning
counsel
haven't,
made
a
decision
on
how
to
utilize
all
the
funds
that
are
available,
or
maybe
they
only
decide
on
the
3.2
million
that's
available
in
current
fiscal,
your
money,
but
yeah,
you
know
that's
a
decision
that
needs
to
be
made.
If
those
grant,
if
the
grants
not
awarded
then
are
we
going
to
utilize
the
funds
that
are
on
account
for
that
project
and
rebid
that
project,
but.
F
I
B
B
And
we
have
that
correct
from
last
meeting.
I
still
have
it
in
my
folder
I
didn't
really
look
at
it
today
again,
but
that's
something
that
we
can
review
so
just
for
my
knowledge,
we've
got
money
left
that
hasn't
been
spent
because
the
projects
haven't
moved
forward
and
we're
also
waiting
to
see
if
we're
gonna
get
grant
money.
Yes,
if
the
grant
money
will
pay
for
some
of
these
things,
then
that
money
out
of
that
2.2
million
will
not
get
spent
for
1.0.
B
E
I
C
E
City
Council-
and
this
is
I-
think
this
is
really
important
and
I
wish
I.
Remember
dates
better,
that
than
I
used
to,
but
the
City
Council
a
number
of
years
ago
agreed
that
we
would
have
that
this
commission
would
have
1
million
dollars
a
year
to
use
for
community
projects
and
community
projects
alone,
and-
and
so
this
we
were
assured
of
this
and
I'm
just
saying
this
for
the
Commission,
but
now
I'm
wondering
if
that
just
changes
by
who's
on
City
Council,
Oh
yep.
No,
no,
no
everything's
changed
so
yeah
who's.
The
different
councils.
E
C
D
E
F
So
what
you're
saying
now,
even
though
that's
doing
things
that
were
on
the
community
project
list,
the
grant
the
community
project
funds
should
come
back
to
the
Commission
to
be
allocated
as
we
see
fit,
because
my
recollection
was
if
the
$1,000,000
was
totally
under
control
of
this
commission
and
what
not
the
council
would
adopt
whatever
we
recommend
it,
but
now
that
what
we
recommended
is
being
paid
for
by
other
funds,
I'm,
not
sure.
That's
still
the
case.
Well,.
E
And
I
I
am
strongly
in
favor
of
using
that
community
fund
budget
to
as
matching
funds
for
grants,
but
if
the
projects
then
can't
be
done
because
there's
no
more
grant
money
or
that
measure,
J
funds
need
to
be
used,
someplace
else
and
then
we're
going
to
wait
for
more
grant
money
to
come
our
way.
Then
my
question
is:
we've
got
this
money
allocated,
it
was
covered
in
the
project
initially,
so
why
is
it
going
away?
Why
aren't
we
doing
these
projects
from
2015.
F
B
B
I
think
our
belief
is
as
a
commission
that
if
we
save
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
because
a
grant
came
in
then
that
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
money
that
can
be
added
to
the
next
community
project,
it
should
be
our
up
to
our
discretion
and
to
the
community
on
how
that
is
spent
and
the
grant
covers
hot
spots.
1.0.
B
You
know
there
might
be
overages
we
might
find
out
well,
what
we
want
to
do
to
parks
is
going
to
cost
1.7
million
dollars
and
we
only
have
allotted
1
million
per
year.
However,
we
saved
money
through
hot
spots
or
because
of
grants
that
came
in
and
covered
some
of
those
costs.
We
have
an
extra
million
dollars,
so
I
would
say
I
think
that
we
all
agree,
that's
how
we
want
these
monies
to
be
spent.
This
is
our
discretion
and
it
continues
to
feed
into
the
community
projects
and
I.
A
Just
think
I
mean
I
think
what
is
very
confused
to
myself
and
I'm
sure
the
general
public
is
the
definition
of
what
a
community
project
is
and
all
of
these
projects
could
be
defined
as
community
projects,
so
I
think
until
that
is
decided,
it's
very
confusing.
So
you
just
said:
oh
what
about
the
downtown
park?
Well,
some
people
may
be
fifty
percent
of
the
citizens
say
well,
I
think
that
benefits
the
community
and
50
percent
say
it.
Doesn't
they
don't
really
care
about
the
park?
A
A
C
F
Have
never
been
to
mine;
no,
actually
that
mean
sentence
that
wasn't
true
what
what
you
just
said.
Michael
the
community
projects
direction
of
that
money
was
to
be
decided
by
the
Michigan
Commission,
and
there
was
when
we
initially
had
project
1
or
whatever
we
call
it
phase.
1.
You
had
an
active
group
that
met.
We
talked
about
whether
to
have
spent
it
on
parks
or
spin.
F
It
on
hotspots
has
been
at
home
streets
and
all
kinds
of
things,
and
we
decided
on
hot
spots
and
in
conjunction
with
one
PS,
we
came
up
with
a
list
of
hot
spots.
The
difference
between
community
projects
that
we're
talking
about
in
other
projects
is
these
projects
that
the
ideas
come
from
this
commission
all
the
other
projects.
We
work
from
a
list
now.
E
E
C
That
that's
when
you
came
and
said
for
the
Parks
and
Rec,
if
they'd
like
to
come
up
with
idea,
that
was
a
wonderful
way
of
working,
because
that
was
able
to
put
together
to
come
to
the
Commission
at
that
time
and
make
a
presentation
and
so
that
reaching
out
within
the
community,
to
the
different
Commission's
I
think
was
the
good
I.
Think
that's
a
great
idea
and
and
I
think
it
worked,
and.
C
E
C
F
B
Yeah
I
was
gonna
say
that
too
and
I
was
gonna,
call
that
out
cuz
I
recall
you
saying
that
yeah
and
seeing
if
we
should
have
and
I
don't
know
if
that
would
fall
under
Marla's
summary
that
she
gave
us
and
it
it
really
went.
We
wouldn't
want
to
tie
it
with
that.
2.6
million
of
you
know
net
new
funds
available.
B
I
B
So
you
know,
leftover
money
is
important
to
this
community
to
community
projects,
and
if
the
Art
Commission
came
to
us
and
said
hey,
we
want
to
be.
We
want
measure
J
to
do
something
with
with
public
art
for
its
next
community
project.
A
million
goes
fast,
you
know
that's
sometimes
to
pieces,
and
that's
it
so.
I
What
we
had
suggested
to
the
Commission
and
to
council
is
to
utilize
the
hotspots
1.0
funds
as
the
match
to
the
final
sivak
projects
that
are
out
to
bid
now,
because
we
were
able
to
use
we
well-liked.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
were
able
to
go
to
see
bag
and
get
more
see
bag
funding
for
Indian
two-way
project.
I
So
we
ended
up
getting
not
two
million
but
three
and
a
half
million
from
sea
bag
for
that
project,
and
we
were
able
to
also
find
remaining
local
measure
a
and
we
program
new
SP
one
gas
tax
fund.
So
we
were
able
to
cobble
together
that
project
without
utilizing
any
measure,
J
funds
so
where
it
says
community
projects.
I
Eighteen,
nineteen,
through
nineteen,
twenty
on
your
memo,
I've
identified
this
fact
that
we've
got
the
remaining
two
sivak
projects
which
we've
bundled
together
in
one
and
we're
anticipating
a
shortfall
which
is
literally
the
the
grant
match,
funding
that
we
need
and
I
don't
need
your
decision
today.
But
what
we
were
suggesting
was
that
2.2
million
that's
available
from
hotspots
1.0
would
slide
over
essentially
cover
the
match
for
this.
This
project,
the
sivak
funded
project,
we're
hopeful
that
we
don't
need
more
than
that.
I
Maybe
we
need
less
I
can
tell
you
that
the
Indian
to
a
contractor
Belko
was
also
the
low
bidder
on
the
next
projects.
Evac
project
we
bid,
which
are
the
two
signals
at
V,
escuela
MV
our
last
day,
and
so
we're
hopeful
that
they'll
be
the
low
bidder
on
this
next
project
and
their
price
will
be
competitive
because
they're
already
mobilized
in
here.
So.
F
I
I
Really
anymore,
when
the
economy
is
booming,
it
hurts
our
contract
costs,
so
it
was
the
north
palm
canyon
crosswalks.
The
two
signals
of
this
Vista
Chino
and
via
via
real
estate
and
North
Pond,
Canyon
and
via
escuela,
so
sivak
gave
us
money
for
those
signals,
as
well
as
Caltrans
and
I
believe
we
were
able
to
fund
the
rest
of
that
with
gas
tax
or
measure
a
I
forget.
I
There's
two
more
so
they
were
on
Palm
Canyon,
so
there
was
a
palm
Canyon
project
through
downtown
again.
This
is
all
really
related
to
improvements
to
the
traffic
signals.
We're
gonna
be
doing
scramble
crosswalks
at
four
intersections.
So
just
like
you
see
in
New,
York
or
wherever
at
and
Dre
know,
I
had
a
motto:
Andreas
talked
wits
and
arenas
because
the
sit
the
pedestrian
warrants.
They
were
so
high
that
they'll
now
be
an
all
pedestrian
face.
I
You
can
walk
diagonally
across
the
intersection,
but
so
those
projects
involve
new
popouts,
new
traffic
signals
with
all
new
detection
equipment
and
everything
to
make
it
much
more
safe
and
then
the
set.
The
third
of
fifth
project
is
dealing
with
South
Palm
Canyon
through
East
Palm
Canyon.
So
we
had
a
couple
of
fatalities
and
a
number
of
bad
injuries
due
to
its
poorly
lit
lack
of
crosswalks.
So
that's
going
to
install
some
additional
crosswalks
street
lighting
through
the
bend
and
other
improvements
and.
E
The
Commission
will
recall
last
year
when
this
was
discussed,
that
palm
Palm
Springs
Police
Department,
went
through
all
of
their
accident
reports
for
a
period
of
time,
and
we
picked
the
worst
of
the
worst
traffic
corridor
in
the
city.
And
this
is
it,
and
this
is
why
it
was
funded
and
why
we
were
able
to
find
grants
to
pay
for
the
balance
of
it.
The
worst
of
the
worst.
C
C
I
Getting
into
the
weeds
the
the
Civic
grants
required
that
we
were
in
construction
by
December
and
we
had
the
bulk
we
had.
Six
million
of
the
10
million
seabag
awarded
was
to
Palm
Springs,
so
they're
really
looking
to
us
to
show
the
entire
membership
of
seabag
that
this
call
for
projects
and
safety
projects
was
worthwhile.
I
So
that's
why
I
was
scrambling
to
the
pieces
together
in
terms
of
dollars
and
I
would
have
liked
to
have
been
able
to
say
well,
let's
just
hold
the
2.2
million
from
hotspots
1.0
but
I'm
looking
to
where
I
can
show
the
council.
They
can
award
a
contract
because
we've
got
money
in
the
bank
to
pay
for
it.
So
that's
just
kind
of
the
because
they
want
to
do
another
call
for
projects,
but
they
don't
want
to
do
it
until
they
can
basically
say
well.
I
I
I
I
think
we
can
have
that
conversation
next
month.
Okay
and
definitely
should
I,
don't
know
when
you'll
have
a
subcommittee
meeting
but
there'll
be
a
point
in
time
and
it
might
be
sometime
in
December.
We
want
to
be
able
to
award
the
contract
in
December
cuts.
Evac
knows
where
we're
at
they'd
prefer
we
award
the
glass
contract
in
December,
but
we'll
need
to
at
least
have
a
conversation
in
November
and
definitely
your
December
meeting
yeah
about
about
it.
Does
he
we're
at
the
bid?
I
Rios's
team
has
updated
their
cost
estimate,
which
has
it
at
six
and
a
half
million
that
includes
the
expanded
police
substation
that
council
approved
recently
I
I
think
we
should
be
expect
bids
to
come
20%
over
estimate
because
I've
seen
him
higher
than
that
so
I'm
thinking
the
bid.
The
contract
will
be
seven
point
eight
and,
of
course,
we
need
contingency,
as
you
know,
for
things
that
come
up
change,
orders,
administration,
so
I'm,
thinking
that
we
need
eight
and
a
half
million
for
delivering
that
project.
I
Quimby
Park
fees
of
two
and
a
half
million,
which
means
we
need
another
3.75
million
to
be
able
to
I
think
fully
fund
the
project.
But
I've
looked
at
where
we
have
other
funds,
and
so
we
have
accumulated
additional
Quimby
fees,
so
I'll
be
having
counsel.
Consider
allocating
the
remaining
six
hundred
thousand
in
unallocated
Quimby
Park
fees
to
the
park
and
I
had
suggested.
The
1
million
for
community
projects
in
1819
that
hasn't
officially
been
budgeted
yet
could
go
to
fill
the
gap
for
the
park.
But.
C
I
I
C
What
mark
is
absolutely
correct?
We
did
make
that
decision
and
Parks
and
Rec
understood
that
when
we
had
this
discussion
with
them
that
if
the
downtown
park
needed
these
funds,
we
would
take
the
money
and
allocate
it
to
that
so
that
we've
already
agreed
on
that.
There's
a
commission,
and
so
it
doesn't.
G
F
I
Moving
on
so,
as
David
mentioned,
the
current
measure
J
budget
has
programmed
in
this
fiscal
year
budgets,
2
million
for
as
our
payment
to
the
developer
of
the
n
des
hotel
for
the
free
parking
that's
going
to
be
provided
as
part
of
that
project.
We
anticipate
he's
on
schedule
to
complete
that
and
open
it
by
July
1st.
I
So
we
would
be
obligated
to
pay
him,
but
we
have
funds
available
through
a
separate
agreement
related
to
the
dream
hotel
to
replace
parking
lost
on
that
site,
which
we
intend
to
use
with
Council's
approval
to
pay
this
cost,
which
frees
up
the
2
million
from
the
end
as
parking
structure.
That
is
the
additional
money
that
I'm
saying
we
need
to
go
to
the
park.
Yeah.
I
B
I
C
I
I
Some
of
these
projects,
but
you
know
like
building
microphone
to
intern
I
mean
that's
the
name
of
the
account
I
believe
there
was
funding
in
one
of
the
first
measure,
J
budgets,
to
do
some,
a
project
for
the
billing
department
to
put
their
plans
to
microfilm.
Anyway,
it's
just
been
sitting
there
year
after
year
after
year,
so
I
thought
it
was
important
for
you
to
look
at
this
I.
Think
for
the
commissioners
that
are
leaving
us.
I
You
know
mr.
gray,
do
you're
dear
to
your
heart.
Is
the
library
phase,
one
I
think
again
that
that
that
yeah
they're
I
don't
know
why
there
were
two
different
accounts,
but
it
must
have
come
in
in
two
different
years,
but
but
you
know
you've
done
the
you
done.
We've
completed
the
preliminary
analysis
that
report,
and
so
the
rest
of
this
funding
is
the
but
I.
Don't
know
that
you
can
really
do
anything
with
a
half
million
dollars
with
what
needs
to
be
done
at
the
library
and,
of
course
that's
the
bigger
conversation
with.
I
A
I
C
A
A
I
I
C
F
G
F
I
A
F
F
I
That
money
really
doesn't
exist
yet
so
I'm,
anticipating
we're
gonna,
be
awarding
a
contract
this
fiscal
year
for
the
downtown
park.
So
I
was
looking
at
where
I
could
cobble
together
funds
this
full
school
year,
but
you're
right.
If,
if
we,
if
we
get
into
the
next
fiscal
year
than
there,
are
to
be
that
third
million
from
measure
J.
F
B
B
So
we
have
one
item
for
new
business
and
this
is
to
appoint
a
measure
J
Commission
Commissioner
from
our
Commission
to
be
a
liaison
to
work
with
the
council
subcommittee,
and
that
subcommittee
consists
of
mayor,
moon
and
councilmember
holstege
and
that
is
to
review
capital
projects
and
I
will
open
it
up
for
any
discussion
and
recommendations.
I.
E
Is
there
a
requirement
that
this
subcommittee
be
appointed
immediately,
or
is
this
something
that
could
wait
until
new
commissioners
come
on
board
and
I'm
only
saying
that,
because
it
makes
there's
such
a
small
group
of
people
that
will
be
here
that
will
be
expanded
soon
by
new
people
and
maybe
help
with
some
of
the
work
involved.
In
that
my.
B
C
B
C
C
B
Arian
is
it
appropriate
for
for
a
November
meeting,
just
under
all
business
I
think
a
lot
of
us
would
love
to
digest
a
lot
of
what
we
got
today
and
revisit
some
of
this
again
under
all
business.
I
also
would
like
I,
think
a
good
nuts
and
bolts
on
the
hot
spots.
B
Maybe
it's
something
that
won't
happen
until
December
January,
where
we
can
start
to
identify
community
project
money
that
we
know
is
just
not
going
to
be
spent
that
we're
gonna,
see
Wow.
Out
of
all
that
was
allocated
for
hot
spots.
1.0
500,000
of
it
is
dad
it's
just
not
gonna
happen,
and
that
way
we
know
that
that's
money
that
we
can
put
then
back
into
community
projects
and
whether
that's
going
towards
the
downtown
park
or
the
next
community
project
that
happens
after
that,
which
could
be
something
completely
out
of
the
box.
Would.
C
B
B
That
was
the
one
that
looked
like
what
we
saw
last
month.
It
was
kind
of
line.
Item
like
this
was
what
was
allotted,
and
then
it
gave
the
reason
why
it
wasn't
gonna
or
we're
still
waiting
on
bids
or
we're
waiting
on
matching
grants.
We
found
out
today,
that's
important.
So
if
a
grants
coming
in
great,
we
know
that
maybe
we're
not
gonna
have
to
spend
twenty
thousand
dollars.
Fifty
thousand
whatever
so
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
and
then
we
can
start
to
slowly
close
out
some
of
that
and
and
move
forward
to.
E
C
B
H
H
H
B
G
C
C
A
One
of
the
things
back
to
this
whole
community
project
versus
any
project,
I
really
think
we
need
to
tie
up
the
terminology
and,
if
you're
giving
me
a
list,
I
want
to
know
quote
what
are
the
community
projects
and
what
are
the
city
projects
because
going
forward?
There's
gonna
be
hardly
anyone.
Who's
gonna
know
that
that's
a
community
project,
because
it's
very
difficult
for
me
to
determine
how
that
project
was
initiated.
A
E
A
B
B
C
H
Got
projects
by
accounts
and
then
I
believe
we
have
departments
that
are
by
hot
spots
and
community,
some
of
them
I
note
when
Jeff
kill
was
here,
he
was
kind
of
grouping
them
and
the
system
doesn't
show
how
that
grouping
comes
up,
but
some
in
the
system
are
by
departments,
so
they
are
kind
of
grouped
together
as
well.
So
let
me
look
at
that
again.
I
think
it
might
be
on
my
list
as
well,
but.
B
So
let
me
just
think
of
something
restroom
improvements
at
a
park
and
that
was
under
2012-2013,
so
that
okay,
we
see
that
there
was
money
allocated
as
a
community
project
to
fix
the
bathrooms
at
a
certain
park
and
that
what
and
that
was
out
of
that
community-
that
was
out
of
your
request
back
in
measure
J
Commission's
2012
2013
calendar
year
was
the
money
spent
yes
or
no.
What
was
the
cost
to
final
cost
or,
if
it
wasn't
spent?
G
I'm
thinking
just
further
say
probably
find
that
big
spreadsheet.
It
will
give
you
a
very
good
start,
and
what
are
you
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
what
and
this
might
help
clarify
what
you're
thinking
about
the
community
projects
when
we
started?
And
yes,
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
bulk
of
the
first
year
and
first
two
years
came
from
the
staff
recommendations
kept
creeping
in.
So
what
we
finally
said
is
is
okay
staff
recommendations
are
starting
to
take
more
we're,
not
getting
the
community
input.
E
G
C
E
G
G
C
B
Gets
them
back
for
help
I'll
bring
I'll,
bring
the
cake
and
cookies
well
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
it,
too,
is
for
those
of
us
who
are
newer
and
I
think
it's
again
just
kind
of
when
it's
when
it's
in
a
spreadsheet,
it's
pretty
easy
to
figure
out
and
and
I've
seen
those
and
I
don't
want.
You
just
recreate
the
wheel,
because
I
I
know
when
we
met
when
I
took
over
as
chair.
B
You
had
presented
me
some
of
those
spreadsheets
so
and
they
made
sense
to
me
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
and
just
being
able
to
go
through
it
see
where
we
are
and
I
think
we
want
to
move
on,
and
we
want
to
get
this.
We
want
to
figure
out
what's
holding
up
some
of
the
areas
of
hotspots,
how
we
can
get
it
move
in
and
I'm
sure
we
all
want
to
get
it
behind
us.
We
want
to
get
these
grants
in
and
we
want
to
move
on
so
yeah.
E
If
I
could,
just
before,
we
leave
that
topic,
I
have
every
application
for
every
project.
In
the
first
group
and
the
second
group
before
we
went
to
the
police
department
and
they
identified
the
worst
of
the
worst
traffic
corridors
in
the
city
and
I.
Think
that
those
somehow,
with
all
the
notes
associated
with
those
projects,
need
to
be
part
of
this
commission
so
that
you
can
go
back
and
go
and
read
the.
A
H
B
I
think
everything
that
measured
that
measure
Jay
is
a
part
of
I
mean
how's,
the
community.
It
sounds
like
before
hotspots.
Community
projects
might
have
gotten
muddy
down
and
put
in
with
a
lot
of
general
fund.
So
I
guess
that
could
just
be
what
you
presented
me
like
everything
from
day.
One
excuse
me
till
now
that
measure
J
monies
have
been
allocated
to
help
pay
for
whatever
Bullards
different
projects,
and
we've
had
some
money
into
that.
B
We've
moved
on
and
we're
getting
this
stuff
done,
so
I
think
it's
just
again.
We
can
look
at
this
and
I
know.
Chris
Kristina's
worked
with
down
a
bit
on
it,
but
as
a
commission,
it's
good
for
all
of
us
to
say
all
right.
What's
the
deal
with
this?
Is
this
a
issue
with
the
tribe
because
the
sidewalk
isn't
being
poured
because
this
tribal
land
landowner?
What
can
we
do?
B
Because
a
lot
of
it
is
boils
down
to
public
safety,
and
we
want
to
see
it
done
it's
important
so
and
then
we
also
want
to
make
sure
okay,
if
it's
not
being
done
that
we
have
that
money
to
put
forward
towards
exactly
so
and
then
that
can
be
part
of
a
new
line
item
from
our
love,
where
it
can
show
community
project
money.
That's
available
down
the
road.