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So
just
a
couple
of
things
that
we've
had
a
very
active
council
agenda
for
our
items,
so
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
of
the
things
that
council
has
been
talking
about
and
we'll
be
talking
about
in
their
upcoming
meetings.
So
at
the
May
first
council
hosted
May
first
meeting
council
host
councilmember
holstege
asked
that
we
put
the
plastic
span
discussion
on
the
agenda,
so
that
will
be
on
the
agenda
on
June
5th.
E
Some
mark
your
calendars
for
that
one
we
are
going
to
be
sending
out
notes
to
businesses
in
the
area
to
let
them
know
that
that
discussion
is
going
to
be
happening.
Then
the
solar
and
a
to
use
response
to
the
question
that
commissioned
council
members
had
about
whether
or
not
80
use
photovoltaics
were
required
on
ad
use.
E
That
memo
was
presented
to
the
council
at
the
May
1st
meeting
as
well,
and
there
was
just
one
question
of
clarification
which
I
clarified
that
there
was
the
discussion
about
micro
mobility
devices
based
on
some
of
the
work
that
the
Commission
did
and
the
report
that
we
prepared
and
as
a
result
of
that
conversation,
the
city
is
issuing
an
RFI
request
for
information
scooter
companies
to
get
some
more
information
from
them
about
their
procedures
and
processes.
And
then
the
trashcan
timing,
ordinance
proposal
came
up
for
discussion.
E
The
open
space
resolution
that
the
Commission
passed
is
a
receive
and
file
item
on
tomorrow's
agenda.
I,
don't
know
if
they'll
have
any
questions
about
that.
The
wind
energy
ordinance
that
David
worked
with
planning
on
is
also
up
for
discussion
tomorrow.
That's
primary
planning
zoning
discussion
and
then
on
six
five.
In
addition
to
the
plastics
ban
discussion,
which
I
anticipate,
we
will
also
I
think
have
a
discussion
about
desert
community
energy
and
how
the
council
wants
to
move
forward
on
that
and
the
downtown
trash
cans
may
come
up
for
discussion
at
that
meeting
as
well.
E
E
Yeah,
so
I
don't
expect
there
will
be
any
discussion
tomorrow
either,
but
we'll
see
all
right
anything
else
on
the
council
agenda.
Okay,
so
then
just
a
quick
update
on
the
budget
I
have
no
update,
so
we
submitted
our
budget
information
into
the
process.
I
have
not
heard
anything
back
from
that.
They've
been
focusing
mostly
on
general,
the
general
fund
and
so
working
a
lot
with
that.
I
will
update
you
if
I
hear
anything
else,
I
don't
have
anything
to
report
on
the
branding
effort
that
I
was
gonna.
Try
to
do
last
month.
E
That
just
didn't
happen,
but
I
do
have
an
update
on
email
addresses
for
commissioners.
I
did
get
a
report
or
some
guidelines
from
our
IT
folks.
So
if
people
do
want
them
essentially
the
process
is
I
would
request
them.
They
would
prefer
to
do
them
for
Roopa
one.
So
we
kind
of
take
a
poll
as
far
as
who
wants
them
and
we
would
submit
an
order
and
then
they
would
essentially
give
you
an
email
address
with
your
name
and
then
with
a
hyphen.
E
At
the
end,
with
the
letters,
a
B
for
advisory
board,
member
and
I
was
thinking.
We
had
the
discussion
before
about
business
cards
and
how
we
would
identify
people
on
business
cards,
and
we
talked
about
having
volunteer
member
or
something
like
that.
But
I
think
that
it
to
be
consistent,
I
think
that
it
makes
sense
to
just
say,
advisory
board
member
so
that
it
shows
up
the
same
way
on
your
email
as
it
does
on
whatever
the
business
card.
So
so.
C
E
F
E
E
A
A
C
E
You
can
add
to
this
and
and
modify
it
per
your
comments,
but
just
a
reminder
that
things
that
come
from
members
of
the
public
has
to
have
to
be
taken
on
by
a
commission
member
for
them
to
be
formally
kind
of
put
through
the
Commission
request
from
City
Council
usually
get
some
clarification
before
they
come
back
to
the
Commission
for
action,
and
so,
if
it's
a
commission
item
it'll
come
back
to
the
Commission.
If
it's
a,
if
it's
directly
related
to
subcommittee
activity,
it
will
likely
go
back
to
them.
E
So
then,
the
first,
the
primary
method,
I
think
that
work
comes
through
to
the
Commission
is
through
the
the
work
of
the
subcommittee's.
And
so
again
the
work
subcommittees
work
on
things
that
are
directly
supportive
of
the
mission
of
the
Commission
and
as
they
do
their
work,
the
subcommittee's
may
seek
guidance
or
input
from
the
Commission
along
the
way,
as
well
as
to
get
final
approval
of
whatever
products.
It
is
that
they're
working
on
so
products
that
are
developed
at
the
subcommittee
level
get
shared
among
the
members
they're.
E
So
and
then
these
there
are
some
examples
of
products
like
research,
reports,
motions
and
resolutions,
responses
to
specific
questions,
etc.
So
those
things
come
back
to
the
Commission
again
for
feedback
and
review.
If
they're
kind
of
draft
the
feedback
will
go
back
to
the
subcommittee
and
the
subcommittee
will
refine
the
products
and
then
bring
it
back
to
the
Commission
for
to
finalize
and
then
once
they're
approved,
they're
moved
forward
to
the
appropriate
body,
so,
whether
that's
Council
or
without
that's
the
city
staff,
so.
E
E
B
E
Good
any
other
questions
before
I
move
on
okay.
So
then,
when
things
come
to
the
Commission,
this
is
where
I
have
challenges
in
terms
of
how
do
what
do
I
do
with
this,
and
where
does
it
go
so
anyway?
So
the
what
I
tried
to
do
was
identify
a
few
different
types
of
things,
but
for
the
most
part,
everything
that
comes
out
of
here
ends
up
getting
some
sort
of
a
staff
report
attached
to
it,
and
then
it
is
forwarded
to
the
City
Council
as
appropriate
or
to
city
staff.
E
So
if
it's
a
city
staff
item,
it
may
be
less
formal,
so
it
may
just
be
an
email,
for
example,
the
questions
that
we
had
on
the
bike
bike
lanes
was
just
an
email
and
I
asked
for
a
formal
response
and
got
that,
and
so
so
anyway.
So
those
those
are
two
different
types
of
things
when
it
comes
to
the
City
Council.
E
Those
are
much
more
formal
process
and
we
do
a
full
staff
report
for
pretty
much
everything
and
those
go
through
to
council
and
they
get
placed
on
different
parts
of
the
agenda.
For
example,
they
might
go
on
the
consent
calendar
for
things
that
are
very
straightforward
and
just
kind
of
require
their
review,
two
things
that
that
have
to
be
discussed
like
the
plastic
span.
That
is
open
for
discussion.
E
Basically,
council
members
may
not
be
able
to
consider
items
except
when
they
are
put
on
to
their
agenda,
so
so
anything
that
goes
to
them
outside
of
the
formal
agenda
process
is
basically
for
their
information,
and
so
they
can,
they
can
consider
it.
They
can
think
about
it.
They
can
read
it,
but
they
can't
really
do
anything
about
it
until
it
gets
to
that
that
agenda
level
on
the
council
also
so
anyway.
So
that's
just
a
note
about
how
things
how
things
flow
and
how
they
get
things
get
done.
C
Just
had
a
couple
of
comments:
yeah
after
reading
this
I
thought
of
a
different
couple
of
different
types
of
products
that
might
be
included.
Yeah
one
is
programs
like
the
battery
recycling
program,
in
other
words
the
residential
Leaf
Blower
rebate
program,
those
don't
necessarily
go
to
City
Council,
although
they
may
be
informed
about
them.
Another
type
of
another
product
is
plans
like
the
plan
for
placement
of
containers,
trash
and
recycling,
containers
and
parks,
and
that's
done
by
the
subcommittee
reported
to
the
Commission,
but
not
necessarily
would
that
go
to
what
well
the
City
Council.
E
All
right
so
I'll
give
some
thought
to
that
and
figure
out
how
we
can
incorporate
that
as
well.
So
any
other
questions
all
right
good-
and
this
was
just
hopeful,
especially
for
me
to
think
about,
just
as
we
go
through
our
process
and
figuring
out
how
to
how
things
flow
and
where
they
go
and
what
to
do
with
them.
So
right.
C
Next
item
is
public
comment.
This
time
is
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
sustainability
Commission
on
the
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission,
the
Commission
values,
your
comments,
but
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act
cannot
take
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
are
signed
for
each
speaker.
Is
there
anybody
here
for
public
comment?
C
Okay,
the
answer
is
no,
so
then
we've
already
had
welcome
and
we'll
move
on
next
to
accepting
of
the
meeting
minutes.
That's
the
minutes
from
the
April
16th
Commission
meeting
the
minutes
were
emailed
and
posted
last
Thursday
May
16th
per
City
policy.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
motion.
D
And
see
bullet
point
under
methane
and
Diana
carbon
dioxide,
landfills,
blah
blah
blah
I,
move
that
this
statement
gases
are
burned
off
via
flares
at
some
facilities
is
misleading
and
that
it
sounds
like
they
are
eliminated,
which
they
are
not,
and
everything
else
is
fine.
I
would
just
remove
that
sort
of
a
misunderstanding.
Anything.
A
D
D
D
I
A
I
Production,
it's
just
the
GW,
it's
dw8,
it's
the
term.
The
twee
au
uses
its
water
that
they
produce
I
mean
you
can
put
consumption,
but
that's
production
is
that
it's
copy
from
the
DW
a
materials,
so
that's
the
term
that
they
use,
but
it's
essentially
consumption,
but
they
they
produce
the
water.
Thank.
C
Okay,
so
we
we've
actually
had
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
in
a
second,
but
we've
had
discussion
with
an
alternate
motion,
so
if
then,
we
just
make
a
friendly
amendment
to
the
motion.
Accepting
the
minutes
with
the
deletion
of
the
sentence
that
was
was
specified.
Okay.
So
that's
the
the
change
in
the
motion.
F
C
F
C
F
C
J
J
The
next
thing
is
that
I'm
gathering
data
for
the
upcoming
2018
calendar
year
annual
report,
as
do
usually
about
the
15th
of
August,
and
they
open
it
up
sometimes
around
the
between
the
1st
and
15th
of
June,
and
that's
the
comprehensive
report
about
all
the
programs
that
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
has
the
numbers.
The
results.
J
Anything
else
that
pertains
to
our
recycling
efforts
here
in
the
city
and
I
did
pass
around
a
letter
reflecting
desert
ark
is
receiving
a
sustainability
award
from
Riverside
County,
so
they
provide
the
electronic
waste
collection
for
us
that
our
events
and
pick
up
in
our
in
our
public
workshops.
So
it's
a
recognition
well
won't
do,
and
the
last
thing
is:
I
spoke
briefly
with
Andrew
Smith,
who
is
our
representative
from
the
state
and
I
asked
him
about
any
improvement
or
any
guidance
from
the
city
regard
the
state
regarding
Senate
bill.
J
E
So
just
a
couple
of
quick
conditions:
one
is
that
we
did
receive
our
funding
from
Cal
recycle
for
our
beverage
container
grant
money.
So
we
put
that
into
the
system
last
week
all
right
this
week,
and
then
we
did
have
a
brief
discussion
about
the
reporting
format
that
we
want
to
try
to
adopt
for
meetings
going
forward
in
terms
of
reporting
out
on
recycling
efforts
and
progress,
and
things
like
that.
E
D
C
E
So
June
first
is,
is
rapidly
approaching
the
enforcement
deadline,
as
you
can
imagine,
we've
had
lots
of
phone
calls
recently
about
incidences
and
questions,
and
everybody
received
a
letter
at
their
home
last
week.
I
believe
it
was
based
on
that
letter.
I've
only
gotten
about
a
handful
of
phone
calls,
I,
don't
say
less
than
ten
clarifying
whether
or
not
people
were
in
violation
of
something
or
clarifying
that
they
can.
You
still
use
electric
that
kind
of
thing,
but
again
pretty
small
number
of
responses
based
on
all
the
letters
that
were
sent
out.
E
I
do
know
that
they
were
getting
out
there.
I
got
several
brought
to
me
in
social
settings,
so
so
I
met
lots
of
people
got
them,
and
so
a
we
also
are
running
another
Spanish
radio
spot
this
week.
To
just
remind
everybody
about
the
tune.
First,
enforcement
deadline:
lots
of
gardeners
are
taking
the
attitude
if
they're
not
gonna,
do
anything
until
June,
first
and
so
I
hope
that
they
do
on
June
1st,
and
so
that
we
can
minimize
the
number
of
fines
that
we
have
to
give
out.
So
so
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
E
We're
gonna
meet
with
enforcement
before
that,
and
so
that
we
all
have
a
consistent
message
around
how
that
forcement
is
gonna
play
out.
So
that's
why
I
have
to
say
about
that
and
I'm
sorry
I
forgot.
My
prop
I
should
have
brought
that
in
which
so
Dan
was
kind
enough
to
purchase
for
me
and
the
office
a
beef
blower
that
blows
bubbles
they
do
make.
That
and
I
have
one
so.
E
E
So
the
next
one
was
the
household
battery
recycling
program
so
that
we
are
poised
to
roll
out.
Our
hope
is
that
we
can
launch
it
at
the
World
Environment
Day,
and
so
we
should
I
find
the
look
of
the
boxes
that
we
they
are
in
production
and
they
approved
funding
for
that
under
the
grant.
So
they
viewed
that
as
a
dual
communication.
E
Slash
something
device
so
anyway,
so
they're
gonna
pay
for
that
under
the
grant,
and
they
look
great
and
so
I
think
that
there'll
be
a
really
nice
tool
for
people
to
have
at
home
to
collect
their
batteries.
I
am
I,
did
start
to
draft
a
press
release
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
we'll
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
that
message
out
and
out
to
folks.
So
all
right,
so
that's
the
plan,
so
I'll
be
working
with
Rory
and
others
to
to
get
that
material.
E
Finalized
status
of
staff
report
on
poster
in
container
plastic
straw
van
so
I
have
I'm
very
close
to
finalizing
the
staff
report
for
the
discussion
that
will
occur
at
the
June
5th
meeting.
We
are
also
sending
out
notes
to
businesses
that
that
discussion
is
going
to
happen,
because
we
would
like
for
people
to
be
there
and
weigh
in
and
give
their
thoughts,
and
so
some
notes
are
going
out
and
if
people
have
recommendations
for
individuals
or
organizations,
I
should
reach
out
to
like
the
hospitality,
Association
Association.
E
If
you
have
contacts
there
feel
free
to
send
those
my
way
so
that
I
can
just
get
more
word
out
about
that,
and
so
it's
my
name.
So
that's
that's
the
plan
for
the
plastic
band
I
the
way
that
I
set
up
and
praying
the
report
is
essentially
talks
about
the
the
scope
of
the
band.
So
what
kind
of
materials
do
they
want
to
focus
on?
What
kind
of
businesses
do
the
way
we
want
to
focus
on?
E
Do
we
want
to
focus
on
just
the
city
and
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
so
that
there
they'll
have
a
discussion
on
that
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
energy
around
it.
They've
been
talking
about
it
for
a
while.
You
guys
have
been
talking
about
it
for
a
while,
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
energy
behind
making
something
happen,
and
certainly
I
think
styrofoam
is
kind
of
a
no-brainer.
So
so
we'll
see
how
that
that
goes.
That
discussion
goes
so
feel
free
to
join
in
that
discussion
and
participate.
E
K
On
the
Wednesday
before
Arbor
Day,
which
is
April
27th,
my
friend,
sherry
Hennessy
was
the
Master
Gardener.
She
has
a
gardening
business.
She
met
me
with
that
for
kids,
only
kids
that
are
in
there
were
in
the
spring
spring
camp,
and
so
we
met
over
at
DeMuth
community
garden
and
in
the
shade
we
shared
information
about
Arbor,
Day
and
Earth
Day
and
talked
to
the
kids
and
why
we
would
want
to
plant
trees
and
in
groups
of
15
they
all
planted
a
Moringa
seed,
which
has
many
many
benefits.
K
K
Rosa
had
requested
a
fig,
so
we're
thinking
you
know,
maybe
one
or
two
different
kinds
of
fig
trees.
Mangoes
are
always
great
desert.
Gold
peach
Shari
said
will
grow
here,
so
those
peaches
which
would
be
nice
there's
nothing
really
that
tastes
more
like
summer
and
then
peaches
and
I
thought
maybe
also
a
Satsuma
tangerine,
because
they're
small
and
seedless
and
easy
to
peel.
If
any
of
you
have
any
suggestions
for
anything
else,
but
that
is
one
place
that
we
can
have
an
edible
garden.
K
K
C
Jen
Tom
at
new,
so
last
week
there
was
a
presentation
by
the
by
the
people
who
are
developing
the
Maryland
community,
which
is
in
the
north
end
of
Palm
Springs,
and
most
people
probably
know
that
they
they're
planting,
but
they
have
planted
7,000
olive
trees
to
to
add
to
the
environment
there
and
they
always
will
be
harvested.
But
a
really
interesting
part
of
the
presentation
is
they.
They
went
through
trade
studies
of
the
different
types
of
plants
that
they
considered
for
their
their
garden.
C
There
were
like
ten
or
so
different
plants
and
water
usage
was
one
criterion.
Ease
of
harvesting
was
another
and
in
their
case,
they're
going
to
market
olive
oil.
So
marketability
of
the
product
was
a
criterion
as
well
bike.
I
have
the
presentation
and
I
can
can
share
that
with
you.
If
you'd
like
I.
F
B
D
A
C
B
Inspiring,
thank
you.
So
I
did
some
research
and
I
know
I
got
you
something
kind
of
last
minute,
but
I'm
gonna
kind
of
go
over
what
I
sort
of
learned-
and
it
was
interesting,
I-
think
there's
some
resolutions
here
that
are
kind
of
things
we
could
support
and
I
did
bump
into
Jeff
Kors
yesterday
and
he
said
Oh
dark
skies.
I
can
get
behind
that.
So
there
was
some
enthusiasm,
but
the
thing
the.
B
Did
was
I,
googled,
stuff
and
I
got
to
the
first
site.
You
see
as
a
bit
of
Greater
Palm
Springs
site
and
the
things
they
mention
are
that
Borrego
Springs
with
an
hour
of
Palm
Springs,
it's
one
of
the
only
15
dark
sky
communities
in
California
and
also
I,
didn't
know
this,
but
Joshua
Tree,
National
Park
is
designated
an
international
Dark,
Sky
Park,
so
they're
greatly
concerned
about
what's
going
on
in
Palm
Springs,
because
that's
their
closest
sort
of
light
pollution
and
then.
D
B
Thing
I
didn't
even
know
is
that
there's
a
there's,
a
brand
new
observatory
in
Rancho
Mirage,
so
it's
a
great
resource
and
we
ended
up
talking
to
them
quite
a
bit
but
they're
very
concerned
about
dark
skies
as
well
too
so
I.
You
know,
I
think
that
picture
is
a
good
illustration
of
what
I
remember
when
I
was
a
kid
coming
here
and
I
definitely
remember
looking
up
and
seeing
a
lot
more
stars
than
I
believe
we're
seeing
now.
B
So
the
other
thing
to
look
at
is
if
you
want
to
do
any
researches,
there's
a
site
called
dark
sky,
scan,
they're,
calm
and
that's
nothing
but
folks
that
are
interested
in
preserving
and
promoting
dark
skies
and
limiting
pollution.
So
I
kind
of
listened
this
first
little
table
here.
Well,
you
know
what
are
the
pros
of
having
bright
lights.
You
know
and
I
think
people
that's
on
the
safer
streets,
for
certainly
security
is
an
issue
and
that's
what
we
have
a
lot
of
lighting
there's.
B
B
If
you
see
you
know
entire
thoroughfares
that
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
is
up
lighting,
you
know
a
wall
is
this,
you
know
what
are
we
getting
ourselves
into
so
I
thought
about
that
a
little
bit
and
then
I
listed
the
products
guys.
You
know
again.
I
just
mentioned
two
things
about
eliminating
light
pollution
in
Joshua
Tree
in
Borrego
how
memorable
it
is
for
tourists
to
come
and
see
the
night
skies
when
most
of
them
are
coming
from.
Angeles
are
coming
from
huge
cities,
even
as
it
exists
tonight
today.
B
You
know
the
skies
are
darker
here
than
they
are
in
most
big
cities.
There
is
a
benefit
to
plants,
wildlife,
birds
and
bats
that
need
a
circadian
rhythm
and
dark
skies
to
sort
of
function.
There's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
plants,
I
mean
I'm.
Sorry,
a
lot
of
animals
and
insects
catch
their
prey
at
nighttime
and
they
use
the
cover
of
darkness
sort
of
to
grounded
their
food.
B
B
On
the
next
page,
I
think
Rob,
you
probably
have
some
more
stuff
to
chime
in
I'm.
Just
gonna
go
through
this,
so
I
thought
well.
What
artist
is
do
we
already
have
so
I
took
a
look
at
Palm,
Springs
ordinances
and
it's
attached
here,
I
kind
of
threw
it
in
there.
It's
an
old
ordinance
that
was
written
a
long
time
ago,
but
the.
B
Know
these
four
categories
here
light
pollution,
is
it
being
well
addressed
in
their
ordinances
light,
trespass?
Obviously
what
your
lights
are
shining
outside
of
the
area
intended
to
light
up
glare,
which
is
usually
addressed
by
some
of
these
and
then
enforcement
I.
Think
enforcement
is
a
difficult
issue
and-
and
if
you
look
surprisingly
they've
rated
ever,
they
rated
someone
I
just
popped
in
the
the
ones
that
were
rated
and
rated
well
and
that
Indian,
Wells
and
Palm,
Desert
and
I.
Think
parts
of
LaQuinta,
as
well
as
Riverside
County,
are
all
doing
a
good
job.
B
Addressing
all
these
things,
with
the
exception
of
enforcement,
they
had
no
rating
for
Palm,
Springs
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
because
it
ordinances
are
sold,
but
I
looked
through
the
through
the
ordinance
and
it's
convoluted
and
difficult
to
understand,
and
it
wasn't
clear
to
me
exactly
I
think
it's
really
was
designed
around
getting
some
street
light
fixtures
that
were
appropriate
and
that
was
kind
of
all
they
did.
So
there
is
a
model
lighting
ordinance
that
we
could
help
kind
of
push
through
and
I
kind
of
listed.
B
B
That's
a
great
idea,
so
we
could
do
that
so
I
looked
a
little
bit
into
what
can
be
done
and,
surprisingly,
all
the
things
that
can
be
done.
Don't
really
affect
the
pro
bright
lights.
Folks-
and
you
know,
one
of
them
is
shielding
that
eliminates
the
light.
Trespass
that
lights,
everything
down
below
the
fixtures
and
that's
an
easy
way
to
kind
of
correct
that
yet
still
allow
security
and
still
to
light
up
the
things
that
you
want
to
light
up.
B
Another
one
is
color:
blue
lights
have
a
detrimental
effect
on
both
the
health
of
people,
sleeping
they
have
a
detrimental
effect
on
birds
and
animals,
so
making
sure
that
we're
using
warm
colors
it's
great
another
one.
That
I
thought
was
the
most
interesting
in
looking
to
actually
has.
This
is
light
curfews.
So
all
they're
saying
is
that
after
11:00
p.m.
you
have
to
turn
off
all
the
landscape
lighting
or
reduce
the
amount
of
light.
B
Oh
that's
a
great
idea
because
everyone
loves
landscape
lighting,
but
at
midnight
there's
you
know
no
one's
really
allowed
to
see
it.
So
that's
a
great
opportunity
to
saves
energy
and
it
kind
of
solves
a
lot
of
the
problems.
One
of
the
things
they
described
too
is
the
zone.
Differentiation
I
mean
there's
commercial
districts
or
I,
probably
have
more
light
pollution
than
residential
districts,
and
you
might
look
at
those
and
give
different
light
lumen
limits
at
each
of
those
areas.
So
anyway,.
B
With
these
recommendations
are
probably
designed
that
still
allows
for
security,
scaping
and
commercial
lighting
within
limits,
so
I
think
we
should
look
into
that
and
one
of
the
next
things
we
can
work
on
in
the
Robert.
A
little
bit
is
getting
some
of
those
together,
while
I
was
doing
some
of
this
discovery.
Work
I
ended
up
as
talking
had
a
nice
conversation
with
the
resident
Rancho
Mirage,
astronomer,
Eric,
McLaughlin
and
I
suggested
that
we
get
together
with
him.
D
B
Roberts
gonna
join
me
and
he
brought
in
the
Joshua
Tree
night
sky
scientist
and
so
there's
a
there's,
a
guy.
That's
the
scientist
for
this
room
anyway,
so
we
have
a
meeting
scheduled
for
May
29th
at
2:00
p.m.
I,
think
that
was
that
we
finally
came
together
on
that.
So
anyway,
if
there's
any
questions
or
Robert,
if
you
have
something
to
add
to
it,.
H
I,
don't
really
have
any
substantive
to
add
in
terms
of
knowledge,
about
ordinances
or
but
I
know
that
consider
all
cities
to
have
passed
them,
Tucson,
Arizona's
famous
for
having
passed
one
to
try
to
protect
their
observatories.
So
the
only
thing
I'm
going
to
add
today
is
next
time.
We
have
a
very
cloudy
sky,
go
out
at
night
and
take
a
look
up
and
you'll
see
the
magnitude
of
the
problem,
because
there
is
a
dull
red
glow
that
comes
off
of
the
clouds
and
it
illuminates
them.
You
can.
B
G
Think
we
addressed
this
before
you
were
appointed
to
the
Commission,
but
our
walkability
subcommittee
did
a
survey
of
Indian
Canyon
specifically,
and
we
noticed
some
areas
where
there
was
no
lighting
whatsoever,
which
was
a
safety
hazard
as
a
pedestrian.
But
we
also
noticed
that
there
were
areas
where
there
were
a
lot
of
gooseneck
lighting
fixtures
that
were
really
just
illuminating,
that
very
bright
and
illuminating
yeah.
G
B
Experience
I
worked
on
replacing
all
the
streetlights
in
the
Big
Island
Hawaii
and
we
were
a
lot
with
the
mount
of
Kay
observatory
and
they
were
really
freaked
out
about
it.
Just
about
everything,
but
the
new
LED
for
LED
is
a
highly
directional
light.
It
doesn't.
It
doesn't
tend
to
spread
about
out
as
much
as
incandescent
students.
The
new
overhead
LED
fixtures
are
are
much
less
light,
trespass
and
light
push
and
some
of
those.
So
if
they
do
go
ahead
with
that,
hopefully
we
can
have
something
in
the
in
the
books.
F
B
B
I
saw
stars
when
I
went
back
to
LA
and
Orange
County
I
didn't
see
stars
so
I
see
it
as
mostly
a
tourist
attraction
or
a
way
to
keep
tourists
coming
to
the
desert,
making
their
experiences
more
memorable,
I
think
there's
also
some
benefit
to
wildlife
preservation
and
to
health
benefits,
but
those
are
smaller.
So
those
are
the
two
I
kind
of
think
is
the
biggest
ones.
No.
F
H
D
Think
in
the
last
six
months,
some
of
the
brightest
brightest
skies
I've,
seen
it
have
been
in
South,
Palm
Canyon
and
some
of
those
houses
are
just
so
lit
up.
It's
unbelievable
I
always
thought
Palm
Springs
was
a
dark
sky
friendly
place,
but
this
was
the
worst
I
have
ever
seen
it
and
looked
like
they
were
just
put
in
within
the
year.
There
are
a
lot
of
a
new
building
and
whatnot
I,
don't
know
if
they
didn't
get
the
memo
or
what
I
suspect.
We
may
have
an
ordinance
that
might
work
if
it
was
enforced.
B
D
B
B
Thought
was
interesting
is
the
guys
at
Maryland
the
Maryland
presentation
he
said,
he's
gonna
they're
gonna,
follow
the
dark
skies
initiative
and
I
said.
Did
you
find
anything
in
the
ordinance
that
met?
You
said
I
know
someone
else
is
doing
it.
So
I
wasn't
clear
to
me
whether
there's
much
in
here
but
I
think
we're
gonna
research,
this
more
going
forward
and
I
think
we'll
learn
a
lot
by
meeting
with
both
the
astronomer
and
with
the
toe
surgery,
guys
that
will
bring
back
to
the
to
you
guys
next
month
and.
D
F
Do
just
have
one
additional
comment
that
it
seems
like
if
we
did
have
an
ordinance,
it
will
work
much
like
most
other
ordinances
and
that
we
wouldn't
be
ripping
down
current
streetlights,
but
as
new
infrastructure
was
put
online,
they'd
have
to
follow
these
dark
sky
requirements,
so
the
capital
costs
would
probably
be
about
the
same
as
they
would
if
we
didn't
have
the
dark
skies
or
maybe
just
an
incremental
increase.
So
it's
not
implementing.
This
wouldn't
mean
ripping
down
lots
of
things.
That
would
just
mean
improving
our
process
over
time
with
new
stuff.
The.
B
Cost
yeah
a
lot
of
this
are
fairly
low,
sits
guidelines
and
stuff,
but
when
we
do
replace
streetlights
generally,
we
replace
them
for
LEDs
and
they
tend
to
be
really
cost
effective,
mostly
because
a
street
light
will
burn.
You
know
twenty
five
thousand
hours,
whereas
LEDs
will
burn
150
thousand,
so
the
cost
of
having
to
fix
them.
It's
great
is
it
and
they're
also
eligible
for
rebates,
but
you're
right.
Thank
you.
C
C
C
F
A
D
C
B
Can
it's
just
our
goal
is
to
come
back
to
the
report
next
month,
right
or
some
guidelines,
or
as
much
as
we
can
come
back.
C
Right,
we'll
we'll
add
you
to
the
list
of
subcommittee
and
commissioner
reports,
and
so
you
can,
if
you
have
enough
information
for
a
written
report,
you
can
submit
that,
but
you'll
have
the
opportunity
to
report
during
that
time
in
the
meeting.
Okay,
all.
C
I
I
Staff
has
gotten
some
comments
from
various
stakeholders,
so
tomorrow's
meeting
council
will
provide
direction
to
staff
on
some
of
the
options
and
then
it'll
come
back
to
Council,
most
likely
at
the
June
5th
meeting,
so
not
a
vote
tomorrow,
but
but
a
discussion
I
will
be
speaking
in
favorite,
but
based
on
what
we
approved
and
not
with
the
additions
that
came
in
from
enough
from
the
Planning
Commission.
The
solar
ordinance
is
not
on
the
Planning
Commission
agenda.
I
Yet
I
saw
Flynn
briefly
on
the
way
in
here
asked
if
he
could
try
to
get
it
through
in
June,
so
they
go
to
council
in
July,
because
then
they
take
a
two-month
break
after
July
17th,
meaning
he's
not
committal,
so
it
get.
It
gets
there
on
their
agenda
when
it
gets
on
their
agenda
and
you
can
follow
up
with
that.
I
But
we'll
see
there
have
been
a
couple
of
mentions
of
Nusa
vice-chairman
can
and
I
presented
our
workshop
during
the
news
conference
last
Friday
morning,
focusing
on
our
efforts
as
commissioners
partnering
with
the
community
on
renewable
energy
and
waste
reduction
projects.
We
had
a
very
good
feedback
from
the
attendees
I
think
about
25
people.
We
got
a
good
suggestion
back
that
I'll
send
back
to
Patrick
about
an
annual
report
of
the
commission
that
the
council,
so
on
top
of
your
other
work
things,
but
I
thought
that
was
a
good
idea.
I
Daniel
will
post
the
other
slide
deck
on
on
the
website,
for
you,
if
you
haven't
already
done
that,
but
that
yeah
okay,
we
get
to
do
that.
It
was
a
fairly
like
the
and
good
presentation,
and
then
they
have
that
afternoon
we
had
the
tours
for
noosa,
so
I
led
the
renewable
energy
tour
out
to
the
windmills
commissioner
Flanagan
and
commissioner
Wilson
joined
there.
I
We
had
a
nice
a
good
photo
that
I
sent
to
the
city
and
Ashley
met,
secured
DWA
also
led
a
water
tour,
and
that
was
also
well
attended
and
I
thank
TWA
at
the
board.
Their
board
meeting
this
morning
for
their
assistance
for
the
noosa
conference
and
then
a
number
of
you
volunteered
at
the
booth.
So
thank
you
very
that
we
gave
out
about
500
water
bottles
and
a
whole
bunch
of
lots
of
stress,
stress,
thingies
and
and
and
bags,
and
everything
like
that.
I
So
I
I
think
we
got
a
good,
a
good
good,
good
feedback
from
that
and
then
finally,
Commissioner
Flanagan
is
working
with
staff
on
the
electric
vehicle
charging
program.
So
whether
you
have
anything
sort
of
add
on
that,
but
that's
that's
one
or
you
know
on
your
float
your
plans
so.
E
Jim
and
I
met
to
talk
about
some
of
the
locations
we
met
with
Jay
from
engineering
and
went
through
some
of
the
spots
that
are
already
on
our
list.
I
had
a
follow-up
conversation
yesterday
with
Jay
and
with
Stacey
about
power
at
some
of
those
locations
and
I.
Think
it's
gonna
be
a
little
bit
more
of
a
challenge
than
we
think
in
some
cases,
so
I
think
we're.
Gonna
have
to
really
do
a
little
more
engineering.
E
That
is,
Ruby's
been
one
of
them
so
yeah,
so
they
apparently
took
all
the
power
so
how
to
work
around
them
so
anyway,
so
I
and
even
for
example,
the
one
that's
out
here.
We've
got
a
couple
of
chargers
out
here
in
the
parking
lot,
but
those
come
off
the
coach
NT.
So
we
have
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
there's
enough
power
coming
off
of
that
to
actually
fire
up
a
couple
more
so
anyway.
So
that's
that's
what
we're
working
on
and
it's
it's
a
slower
process
than
I
had
hoped,
but
but
it's
moving.
B
Two
more
things:
I
think
that
we
learned
is
one:
is
there
gonna
be
rewiring
Palm,
Canyon,
they're
gonna
run
home
with
wires
there.
So
we
said:
can
we
make
sure
to
reserve
some
space
because
you
can
do
chargers
on
street
spaces
too,
as
well
without
having
thinking
B
Street?
No
other
cities
have
done
that.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
we
looked
at
yeah
forgot.
The
other
thing
I
was
just
gonna
say,
but
that
was
helpful.
Yeah
no
okay,.
E
C
E
I
will
just
jump
in
here
after
the
last
Commission
meeting
I
met
with
subcommittee,
and
everybody
is
so
hard
at
work
in
their
individual
efforts
for
this
subcommittee
that
I
agreed
to
take
over
some
of
the
management
of
the
group,
so
so
I'm
facilitating
and
just
managing
the
paperwork
for
the
group.
Just
a
quick
report
on
a
couple
of
things
that
I'm
working
on
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Lonnie
and
Rob
for
their
quick
summaries.
E
But
I've
already
talked
about
the
plastic
ban
and
that
that
report
that's
underway
and
I,
talked
about
battery
recycling
project.
Nothing
needed
a
report
on
C&D
waste.
I
did
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
Debbie
Calhoun,
that's
Barry's
wife,
as
Rob
will
explain.
We
did
some
waste
audits
in
Duluth,
Park
and
Debbie
joined
us
when
Sunday
night
and
as
we
were
digging
through
trash
and
she
was
helping
us
record
what
we
found
so
I
think
that
goes
above
and
beyond
any
any
spousal
duties
so
anyway.
E
K
D
Okay,
so
let
me
see
how
we're
working
on
this
so
there's.
F
D
All
right,
okay,
a
little
different
than
the
laser
okay,
so
I
want
to
cover
this
pretty
quickly.
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
that
our
overall
goal
is
to
divert
ninety
percent
of
our
waste
generated
by
Palm
Springs
from
landfill
by
2000
by
2030,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I
intended
to
do
with
this
investigation
is
to
take
the
larger
view
where,
as
Rob
has
taken
more
the
public
park,
view
of
of
what
can
be
done,
but
I
think
in
the
long
run.
D
We're
gonna
need
that
both
and
I
would,
in
terms
of
the
goals
of
the
project
that
I've
started.
Patrick
did
a
great
job
and
tightening
up
that
day
right
up
on
the
goals-
and
you
see
this
on.
Excuse
me
on
five
on
the
report.
It
starts
in
the
third
bullet
down
a
set
of
goals
for
an
analysis
to
identify
the
following.
If
you
just
when
you
have
a
chance,
read
that
over
and
that
pretty
much
covers
it.
A
lot
of
it
has
already
been
done,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
work.
D
That
needs
to
be
done,
and
this
particular
diagram
here
is
probably
two-thirds
finished.
I
think
we're
gonna
keep
adding
to
it
over
the
next
maybe
year.
Even
so,
basically,
one
of
the
things
I've
said
is
that
that
this
evaluation
is
for
not
only
Palm
Springs
but
the
Coachella
Valley
and
the
Riverside
County
Network
for
waste
management.
You
want,
you
might
wonder.
D
Well,
you
know
why
why
such
a
large
area
but
I,
know
I'm
preaching
to
the
choir
when
I
say
that
green
house
admissions
do
not
stay
in
our
borders,
and
essentially
we
have
the
question
of
where
to
do.
Palm
Springs
responsibilities
lie
so
I
want
to
go
to
this
diagram
here
and,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
point
out
that
this
can
you
know
thank
you,
this
quadrant,
this
upper
left-hand
quadrant,
is
the
Palm
Springs
disposal
quadrant.
It
is
Palm,
it's
all
Palm
Springs
here
on
this
side.
D
And
then
maybe
can
you
blow
it
up
a
little
bit?
Okay
and
that's
the
Palm
Springs
recycling
centers,
which
are
open
to
anybody
who
wants
to
collect
their
own
recycling
stuff?
What
with
that
underneath
this
over
here
and
the
Kuya
Indians,
even
though
they
are
not
part
of
our
jurisdiction,
I
still
have
hope
in
collaborating
with
them
over.
Here
we
have
the
Edom
hill
transfer
station.
Now,
whereas
the
upper
left,
half
court
upper
left-hand
quadrant
was
a
PSD
as
this,
the
Edom
hill
is
operated
and
owned
by
birth
tech
I'm,
not
touching.
It.
D
And
the
then
the
lower
right-hand
corner,
where
it
says
aqua
Monza,
those
are
the
Murph's
otherwise
known
as
the
material
recovery
facilities
and
those
are
also
operated
by
birth
tech.
So,
basically,
just
to
explain
to
you
what
happens
is
we
have
mixed
recycling?
That
means
basically
contaminated
recycling,
and
then
we
have
waste
which
is
otherwise
known
as
solid
waste.
The
other
thing
that's
not
included
in
is
not
intended
to
be
included
is
green
waste.
We
just
don't
have
that
on
here,
and
it's
there's
no
plan
for
having
it
on
here
in
the
near
future.
I.
D
Some
of
these
numbers
that
went
over
with
you
last
time,
but
I
won
I
didn't
was
having
to
do
it.
Even
he'll
transfer
station
that
actually
no
sorting
takes
place
for
Palm
Springs
materials.
There.
It's
actually
sorted
in
PSD
s
and
Palm
Springs.
All
they
do
is
they
take
out
the
gigantic
things
like
washing
machines
or
whatnot
and
Edom
hill?
They
also
do
that,
but
it's
for
the
other
jurisdictions.
Basically,
Burrtec
works
the
whole
rest
of
the
valley.
There
are
a
very
big
waste
management
company
and
they
they
do
a
good
job.
D
In
many
respects,
the
basically
both
the
solid
waste
and
they're
mixed
recycling
is
put
into
their
separate
trucks.
The
mixed
recycling
goes
to
the
murse.
Most
of
ours
now
goes
to
Aquaman's,
ax
and
I'm.
Trying
to
get
this
guy
to
respond
to
me
so
that
we
can
got
those
people
who
are
interested
can
go
up
and
actually
take
a
look
at
it.
We
have
questions
of
aqua
Monza
such
as.
What
can
we
do
that
will
realistically
improve
our
recycling?
D
Success
decrease
our
contamination
such
that
there
is
less
that
goes
to
lamb,
Canyon
landfill,
and
this
has
been
a
big
Bugaboo
and
they
they
sell.
You
know,
there's
all
this
contamination,
but
as
it
turns
out,
we
haven't,
we
don't
really
have
a
recycling
program
here
in
terms
of
education.
We
want
to
institute
a
campaign
to
educate
people
on
recycling,
to
reeducate
them,
given
what
we
now
know
given
what
the
markets
are
so
part
of
this
research
is
to
discover
what
those
things
are.
D
What
are
the
like?
The
three
may
be
at
most
four
most
important
things:
bang
for
your
buck.
We
can
do
to
get
a
recycling
program
going
from
APPA
Monza.
The
recycling
is
is
a
completely
process.
It's
turned
into
a
commodity
like
the
feedstock
basically
and
goes
off
to
be
recycled.
Now
exactly
what
goes
and
how
much
of
it
doesn't
go.
We
don't
know
the
numbers
on
that,
but
we
thing
to
find
it
out
the
non-recyclable.
D
What
car
called
residuals
end
up
in
land
can
in
Alam
Canyon
land
fill
up
under
Edom
hill
I
want
to
point
out
I'm,
probably
running
short
on
time,
that
this
is
a
landfill.
It
is
in
Cathedral
City,
it
emits
landfill
gas.
It
has
an
open
flaring
system.
Open
flared
system
means
this
is
where
they
burn
it
off.
You
see
the
flame
and
it
depends
on
the
winds,
how
hot
that,
how
hot
it
gets
and
how
long
the
methane
is
in
this
temperature
environment
will
determine
how
much
is
actually
destroyed
in
the
open
system.
D
D
Even
though
Edom
hill
is
actually
a
closed
landfill,
no
more
landfill
material
is
going
there
now,
but
it
continues
to
spew
methane
and
co2
lam
Canyon
spews
more
and
like
that
was
I've
reported
that
10,000
tons
of
methane
produced
per
year,
that
is
just
coming
from
Palm
Springs,
also
an
open
flared
system
and
just
FYI
in
Riverside
County.
There
are
a
total
of
eleven
landfills.
D
D
B
E
C
I
Your
landlord
there,
the
mention
of
flare
gas,
brings
me
back
to
20
years
ago.
I
worked
in
Tunisia
to
do
an
electric
power
plant
from
flare
gas
from
the
local
gas
fields,
and
then
they
just
threw
it
into
a
turbine,
and
you
know
with
hot
water,
and
it
turned
the
turbine
and
generated
electricity,
so
that
technology
is
very
basic
and
very
existing
and
it's
clearly
a
long
term.
I
But
perhaps
you
know
with
GCE
there
could
be
some
synergies
to
work
and
create
our
own
sort
of
capture
it
and-
and
you
know
they
do
want
to
look
at
as
part
of
their
their
objectives
of
generating
their
own
electricity
in
renewable
sources,
which
would
then
be
included
in
the
renewable
or
recaptured.
So
it's
a
long-term
project
but
I
I'm
depressed
when
I
hear
about
that.
Just
because
it
is
a
lot
easier
to
to
capture
that
stuff
and
generate
electricity,
and
we
could
use
it
here
in
the
valley.
I
am.
D
D
Anyway,
there's
two
that
have
already
been
studied
and
are
perfect
to
move
in
that
direction.
They
are
cade
to
move
in
that
direction
by
the
state.
We
just
need
to
move
in
that
direction.
Lam
Canyon
is
perfect.
In
fact
they
did
have
an
energy.
Well,
it
turned
out.
They
only
had
an
operating
for
a
year
and
it
never
did
produce
energy,
but
they
have
a
setup
that
is
perfect
to
do
this.
So
of
all
the
things
we
can
do,
I
think
that
kind
of
conversion
should
be
high
on
the
list.
D
In
addition
to
that,
there's
no
reason
why
Palm
Springs
couldn't
have
its
own
Merv.
We
wouldn't
have
to
be
transporting
all
of
our
recycles.
We
could
maybe
do
a
better
job
and
we
wouldn't
have
to
necessarily
be
transporting
it
to
the
City
of
Riverside
and
then,
which
then
goes
to
Beaumont.
We
don't
have
to
transport
these
things
out
of
the
valley.
We've
got
plenty
of
landfills.
Maybe
we
could
get
under
a
MuRF
up
in
the
northern
part
of
Palm
Springs.
We
have
75
square
miles
of
land.
D
D
D
Interestingly,
there
is
a
a
MuRF
project
that
is
has
been
completed
between
Apple
Valley
and
Victorville
fairly
recently
within
the
last
10
years
and
fascinating
collaboration,
and
it
is
administered
by
those
two
cities,
but
it's
actually
run
by
Bert
Agra.
So
there's
no
reason
why
we
couldn't
have
a
private
company
actually
set
it
up
and
do
the
day-to-day
business,
but
have
it
be
administered
by
the
city
and
have
the
city
get
the
profits
and
and
lower
our
costs
as
far
as
waste
management
goes
so
just
up
there
Gary.
F
D
E
A
lot
of
it
goes
to
sa
recycling
and
we
were
actually
I
just
got
a
note
from
Chris
Cunningham
and
they're
gonna
be
doing
a
little
more
data
collection
from
multi-family,
residential
and
commercial
facilities
about
how
they
handle
their
green
waste.
So
we
should
be
getting
a
lot
more
information
about
that
too,
but
most
of
it
goes
to
sa
recycling
a
lot
of
the
companies
that
you
see,
hauling
around
landscape
waste
and
that
kind
of
thing
they
a.
H
Without
a
hundred
percent
certainty
that
yeah
all
of
the
green
waste
that
we
put
into
our
green
containers
at
the
residential
recycling
program
does
go
down
to
Coachella
to
a
composting
facility.
The
sa
recycling
is
more
industrial
companies
that
are
collecting
it
because
their
landscapes,
landscapers
they're,
the
ones
that
are
taking
it
to
that
to
sa
recycling.
H
F
H
B
And
I
brought
this
up
before
Lonnie
and
I.
Think
this
whole
greenhouse
I
mean
the
methane
problem
sort
of
adds
to
my
thoughts
about
incineration
and
I
mentioned
before
that
in
Hawaii.
We
mechanically
separate
everything,
use
all
the
use,
though,
to
pull
out
the
recycling
and
then
incinerate
everything,
so
it
avoids
the
the
methane
problem
as
well.
I
know
it's
a
big
bite.
B
D
D
C
H
F
H
Now
is
it
working?
Yes,
it
is
so.
As
Patrick
mentioned,
we've
been
going
and
doing
a
survey
of
the
waste
containers
and
the
public
parks
and
I
just
want
to
give
you
some
preliminary
data.
Tonight.
It's
not
finished
it.
This
is
just
an
ongoing
sort
of
update
on
what
we've
discovered
so
far
and
those
are
the
people
that
are
doing
it
Patrick
and
Gary,
and
myself
and
Gary's
wife
in
Duluth.
Okay,
next.
H
So
we,
what
we've
been
doing
is
getting
contamination
rates
and
so
I'll
just
quickly
describe
it's.
It's
a
very
simple
metric.
If
you,
if
you
are
looking
at
a
recycle
bin-
and
there
are
ten
items
of
waste
in
the
recycle
bin
and
two
of
them
are
non-recyclable
trash
items,
then
you
have
a
20%
contamination
rate.
H
Conversely,
if
you're
looking
at
a
trash
bin-
and
you
have
two
items
that
are
recyclable,
then
you've
got
a
20%
contamination
rate,
and
this
is
the
first
thing
that
we
discovered
in
Duluth,
but
it's
also
been
replicated
at
several
of
the
other
parks,
we're
getting
fairly
high
contamination
rates
in
our
recycle
bins,
somewhere
between
40
and
50
percent.
These
are
just
means
and
medians
and
describe
why
I
pulled
that
up
in
a
second,
the
the
trash
rates
are
lower
than
the
recycle
rates
of
contamination.
H
Between
the
mean
and
the
median,
with
a
higher
average
than
a
median,
and
what
that
means
is
that
there's
outliers
there
are
trash
bins
with
much
more
contamination
rates
of
them
than
the
average.
So
that
was
a
mystery
at
first,
but
both
Gary
and
Patrick
were
able
to
clear
it
up
from
him.
They
said:
here's
what's
going
on
it's
the
trash
containers
that
are
close
to
this
for
being
areas
like
baseball
fields
and
the
like
the
dugouts.
H
H
So
I
broke
it
down
that
way
and
I
separated
out
the
ones
that
are
in
non-sports
field
adjacent
areas
and
once
the
Durham
sports
field,
adjacent
areas
and
and
their
observations
were
completely
borne
out,
you'll
see
that
if
it's
in
non
adjacent
areas
we're
getting
the
standard
situation
which
is
a
fairly
low
contamination
rate
in
the
trash
containers
and
a
higher
contamination
ribbon
the
recycles.
But
if
we
go
to
these
sports
adjacent
areas,
the
the
contamination
level
in
the
trash
containers
goes
way
up
next
slide.
H
H
This
is
setting
off
some
warning
signals
in
their
heads,
because
what
may
be
going
on
is
that
there
are
people
going
through
both
sets
of
containers
and
they're
picking
out
the
recycle
materials
and
that's
pushing
down
the
contamination
rate
in
the
trash,
and
it's
really
jumping
up
the
contamination
rate
of
the
recycle
loop,
because
what
they're
leaving
is
the
trash
that
people
put
in
there.
So
we've
got
good
numbers,
but
we
still
need
to
do
some
exploring
to
find
out
what
they
mean
and
whether
that's
kind
of
contaminating
our
assessments
here.
Any
questions.
B
H
H
C
H
F
H
I
To
add
to
your
already
very
large
workflow,
a
also
at
the
Nusa
conference,
there
were
receptions
outside
on
the
wind
centers,
the
evenings
on
the
east
side
and
then
the
west
side
of
the
mansion
center.
In
both
cases,
there
was
no
opportunity
for
recycling.
It
was
just
I,
think,
just
cardboard
containers
and
then
sort
of
white
plastic
bags.
So
I
got
a
nice.
You
know
beer
with
my
little
drink
ticket
and
then
okay
into
the
trash.
So
it's
essentially
a
very,
very
high
contamination
rate.
I
So
when
you're
working
with
various
partners,
as
you
discussed
at
the
Nusa
presentation
of
the
Convention
Center,
would
be
a
good
partner
and
perhaps-
and
I
mentioned
this
to
Jeff,
when
I
saw
him
one
Sunday
in
an
event
that
would
be
putting
recycling
goals
in
the
contract
with
whoever
it
is
going
to
operate
the
Convention
Center,
because
that's
certainly
is
being
renegotiated
right
now.
That
would
be
a
good
sort
of
thing
to
see:
actual
metrics
recycling,
metrics
and
obligations
in
the
Convention
Center
management
agreement
and.
C
That's
really
typical
of
special
events.
Another
example
is
the
the
farmers
market
and
in
Palm
Springs.
They
just
have
the
single
cardboard
containers
out
there
and
I
tend
to
check
them
every
so
often
and
and
it's
a
mixture
of
course,
because
that's
that's
all
that
there
is
that
one
that
the
single
type
of
container
so.
E
The
other
observation
that
I
had
when
we
were
doing
this
is,
and
it
kind
of,
brings
together
the
work
that
you're
doing
Lonnie
and
the
work
that
that
you're
doing
is
that
I
think
it.
It
does
raise
some
interesting
questions
to
me
about
what
people
think
they
can
recycle,
and
so
there
was
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
recycling
that
yeah
I
guess
you
could
can
think
about
that
as
being
recyclable.
H
Let
me
just
add
to
that
before
joining
this.
This
really
is
just
the
preliminary
set
of
data
that
that
we're
gonna
be
processing
from
this
effort,
and
another
thing
that
we're
doing
is
not
just
counting
and
getting
contamination
levels,
but
we're
also
categorizing
what
the
items
of
waste
are
in
these,
so
that
that
was
gonna
be,
should
really
help
us
with
signage
I.
J
H
E
Recycled
in
the
recycling
bin,
but
maybe
we
weren't
really
yeah-
is
that
happened
especially
like
with
styrofoam.
So
if
styrofoam
is
still
on
the
list
of
things
that
can
be
recycled
and
but
so
there
were
some
styrofoam
cups
that
were
in
there,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
really
counted
those
as
as
recycled
yeah.
H
D
C
D
H
Just
just
to
clarify
John
yeah,
the
the
contamination
in
a
trash
container.
If
you
have
recyclable
material,
we
are
calling
that
contamination
with
a
trash
container.
It's
not
the
same
thing
as
food,
but
because
it's
gone
into
a
trash
container,
it's
not
gonna
get
recycled.
That's
gonna
go
to
landfill.
So
from
that
perspective
it
is
a
contaminant.
F
D
Important
yeah
I
mean
you
can
imagine
how
much
pizza
is
eaten
in
Palm,
Springs
and
Coachella
Valley,
basically
the
lid,
if
it
doesn't
have
any
grease
on
it,
cuz
the
grease,
really
messes
them
up.
It's
the
grease
is
the
big
no-no.
If
you
cut
off
the
lid,
you
can
recycle
that,
but
the
rest
of
the
pizza
box
no
and.
C
E
The
only
other
thing
I'll
say
is
that
these
guys
have
been
doing
really
great
work
and
this
work
is
only
gonna
get
bigger
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
that
in
terms
of
our
agenda,
just
because
I
think
there's
gonna
be
so
much
going
on
in
this
arena
as
we
go
forward
that
we're
gonna
have
to
kind
of
make
it
an
its
own
agenda.
Item
I
think
in
some
ways.
So.
E
G
G
That
was
not
exactly
the
kickoff
meeting
for
the
project,
but
it
was
sort
of
a
kickoff
meeting
for
those
of
us
involved
with
the
walkability
plan
grant.
So
we
are
now
tasked
with
reviewing
the
scope
of
work
and
providing
that
to
Patrick
for
his
review,
and
we
did
discuss
some
items
at
that
meeting
that
were
not
included
in
the
original
walkability
plan
scope.
G
Some
things
associated
with
zoning,
for
example,
which
I
have
more
recently
learned
that
the
Planning
Department
has
put
out
an
RFP
or
request
for
proposals
for
a
general
plan
update
for
certain
aspects
of
the
general
plan,
including
the
land
use
element.
So
there
may
be
a
bit
of
overlap
there.
If
we
find
that
the
budget
for
the
scag
grant
is
not
adequate
for
addressing
all
of
the
issues
that
we
want
to
address
and
the
walkability
plan
and
safe
routes
to
school.
G
G
F
Once
we
submit
the
scope,
they
think
they
then
will
go
through
the
process
of
hiring
the
consultant
for
the
city,
and
that
was
gonna.
Take
a
couple
months.
I
thought
it
wasn't.
Unfortunately,
we
found
out
that
the
clock
has
kind
of
already
been
ticking
on
this
project,
so
we
lose
wrapped
up
by
January
2021,
so
we're
always
sitting
with
about
18
months
to
complete
the
plan.
So
as
soon
as
the
consultant
is
on
board
we'll
be
working
hard
to
support
that
scope.
F
F
Sounds
like
you're
working
on
your
priorities,
now
you're
sort
of
shaping
them.
Well,
let
me
back
up
so
my
understanding
is
that
this
scag
grant
is
to
write,
write
a
to
create
a
plan.
Is
that
right
at
the
yeah
and
so
you're
developing
the
priorities
that
that
plan
will
cover.
Now
the
priorities
were
pretty
much
set
in
a
proposal
process
and
a
year
and
a
half
being
awarded.
F
E
I
will
I
would
say
that
the
priorities
are
really
part
of
the
development
process.
So
part
of
the
scope
of
the
work
is
to
for
that
consultant
to
convene
meetings
with
the
public
and
identify
what
their
concerns
are,
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
I
would
say
that
that's
really
the
priority
development
and
then
that
gets
the
translated
into
the
plan
has.
G
Presumably,
yes,
I
know
we
had
an
exchange
about
the
section
fourteen
Complete
Streets
plan
earlier
and
bearing
in
mind
also
that
that
plan
is
six
years
old
and
there
are
some
things
that
have
some
items
that
have
been
developed
in
the
city
that
are
not
necessary
or
are
going
to
be
developed
in
the
city
that
don't
quite
match.
What
is
in
that
particular
plan,
so
I
think
that
those
items
will
be
reviewed
and
accommodated
and
addressed
in
this
walkability
plan.
I
guess.
F
For
me,
one
one
thought
if
you
would
consider
it
kindly
as
that
I
know
that,
when
measure
J
did
the
hotspot
study,
there
were
a
number
of
issues
that
were
addressed
and
I've
seen.
Some
of
them
come
through
our
Commission.
So,
for
example,
there
are
some
issues
regarding
the
curve
which
was
one
hot
spot
was
developed.
I
think
that
trying
to
address
those
issues
could
be
a
good
thing.
F
I
know
that
in
the
past
there
was
an
effort
to
create
additional
reports
related
to
those
hot
spots,
but
they
didn't
happen
because
they
were
too
expensive
and
they
were
looking
for
other
grant
money
to
fund
those
studies,
so
I
think
there's
work
that
could
be
good,
be
done
to
kind
of
expand
on
on
that
hot
spot
study.
In
what
you're
doing
and.
C
In
the
con
foresman
Public
Works
Committee,
we
have
addressed
future
hot
spots
as
well,
but
it's
it's
I
think
it's
generally
accepted
that
there
won't
be
any
significant
funding
from
measure
J
for
a
couple
of
years
that
the
the
last
funding
is
dealing
with
the
curve
and
dealing
with
some
pedestrian
issues
on
Sat
Palm
Canyon,
the
further
up
north,
the
downtown
area.
There's
several
million
dollars
worth
of
projects
going
on,
and
it
probably
won't
be
any
funding
for
additional
projects.
For
a
couple
of
years.
As
I
said,
that's.
G
G
But
there
are
certain
areas
where
they're
their
major
sidewalk
gaps,
and
we
have
a
large
tourist
community
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
people
will
wind
up
walking
in
certain
busy
streets
because
they're
walking
along
a
sidewalk
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
one
sudden
the
sidewalk
ends
and
they
have
to
go
into
the
busy
street
and
then
get
back
onto
the
sidewalk.
You
know
lugging
luggage
with
them
so
addressing.
D
K
K
The
last
of
this
go
green,
sustainable
film
series
is
next
Thursday
May
30th,
it's
called
the
need
to
grow
and
there
will
be
master
gardeners
there
with
offering
seedlings.
So
if
you
bring
a
three
inch
pot,
any
of
you
are
interested
or
to
spread
the
word.
You
can
either
get
a
basil
plant,
I,
think
or
flowers
and
at
6:30
that's
at
5:30
6:30.
K
K
Business
and
she's
doing
a
documentary
called
off
the
vine,
and
so
you
can
check
out
the
preview
at
6:30
and
then
at
7:00
o'clock
is
the
need
to
grow
so
I
posted
on
eleven
different
Facebook
sites
and
I've
been
trying
to
spread
the
word,
but
whatever
you
all
can
do
to
spread
the
word
as
well.
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
so
many
people
came
to
the
last
one,
but
I
think
the
more
we
can
all
promote
it.
The
more
people
will
get
there,
so
it.
K
F
K
C
What
one
thing
we've
kind
of
lost
sight
of
in
discussing
film
festivals
is
the
the
Wild
and
Scenic
Festival
that
we'd
been
talking
about
quite
a
while
ago
and
I
think
that
was
the
reason
we
actually
set
up
this
ad
hoc
subcommittee.
Is
there
any
interest
any
discussion?
That's
him
seems
to
me
that
the
last
time
you
were
looking
at
late
this
year,
we're.
C
B
I
think
we
had
an
electronic
meeting.
I
guess
with
our
subcommittee
I
forwarded
the
the
discussion
that
the
reply-
email
from
Danny
Way,
know
about
response
to
our
questions,
and
we
had
some
back-and-forth
about
it
and
I
guess.
The
big
thing
is
that
I
guess
Patrick
didn't
down
when
I
looked
at
the
intersection
and
I
think
it's
finally
dawned
on
Don
that
it
is
much
more
dangerous
than
I
thought.
So
they
came
back
to
us
with
three
proposals
and
some
of
our
kind
of
complicated
they're
about
I.
Guess,
there's
a
deads.
B
You
can
time
an
extra
few
extra
seconds
on
the
end
of
a
cycle
and
add
to
here
or
they
could.
He
was
concerned
about
some
backup,
but
anyway
it's
on
the
radar
and
so
I'm
gonna
keep
kind
of
bugging
them.
I
mean
I.
Think
what
the
curve
is.
Those
people
are
hidden
back
there
and
there
is
a
number
of
reso.
B
You
know
ideas
that
we're
talking
about
the
bike:
smart
book,
that
I
haven't
done
much
but
I
know
if
the
PS
is
a
PS
safety
group
is
involved
in
that
I
think
that
would
help
to
kind
of
move.
It
along
so
I
liked
it
in
Gemma.
B
He's
kind
of
spirit
at
that
and
then
the
only
other
thing
I
had
to
is
I
brought
up
the
the
fact
that
the
plaza
talk
attack
eats
for
the
son
of
the
the
Starbucks
is
there
are
signs
of
war
that
say
no
bikes
allowed,
but
the
plaza
is
filled
with
bikes
and
I
think
as
part
of
a
vibrant
pedestrian
community
and
a
vibrant
bicycle
community.
We
need
to
accommodate
those
bikes
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
people
should
be
allowed
to
ride
their
bikes,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
people.
B
You
know
have
their
start,
their
bike
ride
at
Starbucks
and
they
have
their.
You
know
two
and
$3000
bicycles,
and
there
is
a
bike
rack,
that's
a
kiddy
Korner
across
the
street,
but
no
one
wants
to
use
it
and
so
I'm
looking
for
ways
to
kind
of
think
so
to
make
some
progress
on
that
I
haven't
done
much
fun
it,
but
that's
kind
of
on
our
agenda
list
or
wish
list.
So
that's
it.
Unless
there's
any
questions,
Dan.
A
Yes,
there,
the
bike
ride,
we
didn't
unpack
bikes,
merchants,
request
them
and
the
city
will
go
in
and
and
install
them.
We
were
Patrick
and
I
were
talking
about
that
just
earlier
today,
I
do
have
a
contact
with
the
one
of
the
hopefully
she's.
Still
the
area
manager
for
Starbucks.
So
I
will
reach
out
to
her
to
see
if
she
wants
to
put
one
in
downtown,
because
we
put
some
at
the
southern
Starbucks
southern
South,
Palm,
Canyon,
Starbucks
and.
B
B
E
The
other
thing
that
I
would
mention
that
Dan
and
I
have
talked
about
is
making
a
more
aggressive
campaign
around
trying
to
identify
locations
for
bike
racks
and
approaching
those
businesses
and
actually
starting
that
conversation,
as
opposed
to
waiting
for
them
to
come
to
us.
So
that's
another
thing:
we'd
love
some
input
on
in
terms
of
other
places,
we'd
like
to
see
them
and.
B
C
D
B
B
B
A
We
installed
three
of
the
bike
racks
at
the
South
Starbucks
on
the
South
Palm
Canyon.
They
wanted
rainbow
colors,
but
we
were
unable
to
do
that,
but
we
could
do
we
can
install
more
than
one
if
the
merchants
the
the
deal
is
that
the
merchant
is
required
to
maintain
the
racks.
Keep
them
clean,
keep
them.
A
B
K
So
our
event
is
just
two
Sundays
away
from
2:00
to
5:00
at
the
pavilion,
and
hopefully
you
all
can
join
us
right
now.
We
have
about
20
exhibitors
that
have
you
know
that
are
committed
to
having
a
table.
Three
of
those
are
sponsors,
so
Palm
Springs
disposal
is
giving
us
$500,
which
is
great
and
how
purple
energy
is
giving
a
hundred
and
pique
the
Energy
Coalition
is
giving
a
hundred.
Also.
K
So
that's
gonna
be
very
helpful
just
for
the
kitty
for
next
year
and
maybe
some
other
expenses-
that's
that's
still
need
to
be
covered,
so
we
only
have
two
chefs
confirmed
so
far,
but
tea
Santora
has
made
a
contact
with
another
one.
So
hopefully
that
that,
if
you
guys
know
any
vegan
chefs
or
you
know.
D
F
K
That
would
be
awesome,
so
this
will
really
show
case.
You
know
farm-to-table
cuisine.
Chef
webbley
wants
to
make
like
zucchini
noodles,
so
we
want
to
get
as
much
produce
from
the
farmers
market
as
possible,
but
if
it's
something
else
that
you
know
that
somebody
is
inspired
to
create
I'm
sure
we
could
get
other
organic
ingredients
if
needed,
but
definitely
all
plant-based
food
for
that.
Tea
has
also
been
working
with
some
fine
artists
so
we'll
have.
This
is
a
new,
a
new
part
of
this
event,
though
the
13
fine
artists,
some
are
going
to
be
doing.
K
Hopefully,
I'm
hoping
to
have
a
few
other
artists.
So
if
you
know
it's
not
in
our
budget
that
we
have
but
because
we've
gotten
a
little
bit
of
extra
money
from
these
new
sponsors,
it
would
be
really
nice
to
have
a
couple
of
artists
doing
like
repurposing
upcycling,
showing
people
how
to
you
know,
upcycle
and
so
I
thought.
K
Maybe
we
could
use
of
a
little
bit
of
that
money,
for
you
know
to
inspire
them
to
come
in
and
also
I,
don't
know
how
we
acquire
those
kind
of
items,
but
that's
something
that
may
be
happening
and
face
painting.
Would
you
all
be
ok
if
we
gave
a
little
bit
of
funds
to
some,
you
know
student
face
painters
to
inspire
them,
it's
hard
to
get
volunteers,
and
then
we
have
lots
of
fliers.
So
if
any
of
you
can
take
some
pliers
tonight,
thank
you.
That
would
be
great
I.
Think
it's.
F
K
There's
actually,
no,
no,
there
is
one
on
gene
autry,
but
there's
one
at
Mesquite
or
Dinah
Shore
going
east
is
that
Dinah
Shore?
Is
that
called
I
didn't
sure
right
there?
It
turns
in
and
Dinah
Shore
so
that
one's
going
east
it's
on
the
left
side
and
then
there's
one
at
Ramone
and
Bob
Hope,
which
I
haven't
been
to
yet.
But
I
saw
a
picture
and
it's
beautiful
with
San
Jacinto
in
the
background
and
then
the
one
going
north
on
not
to.
K
C
F
C
One
one
special
event
that
Patrick
is
facilitated.
You
may
recall
that
the
Commission
recommended
that
the
city
take
the
National
Wildlife
Foundation's
mayor's
pledge,
which
is
to
support
development
of
habitat
for
monarch,
butterflies
and
to
also
support
education,
or
we
didn't
take
the
mayor's
pledge
about
a
year
ago
and
that
negated
the
proclamation
and
we're
going
to
have
a
proclamation
that
World
Environment
Day
and
the
mayor
will
be
there
to
present.
That
part.
E
Yeah,
so
I
would
HIGHLY
encourage
people
to
encourage
others
to
be
there
between
the
2
o'clock
and
3
o'clock
period,
because
that's
when
you're
doing
the
awards,
that's
when
we'll
have
the
mayor,
City
Council
there
to
do
the
proclamation,
so
that
would
be
a
big
sort
of
time
to
be
there
if
we
can
get
the
get
folks
out
there.
Yes,.
K
That's
gonna,
be
the
networking
and
you
know
more
educational
part
and
then
the
live
music
will
start
at
3:00.
So
we
do
have
one
unconfirmed,
exhibitor
and
I'm,
hoping
that
they
choose
to
join
us,
but
it's
Scott,
MD,
the
South
Coast
Air
Quality
Management
District,
because
this
year's
theme
is
air
pollution.
So
it
would
be
wonderful
if
they
wanted
to
bring
some
electric
cars
and
you
know
showcase
those
and
maybe
give
a
little
address
to
us
as
well.
C
B
The
last
I
heard
was
at
Marcus
Fuller's
desk
I
did
bump
into
Lisa
at
noosa
and
I
mentioned
it
to
her
and
asked
if
we
could
brought
up
in
a
closed
session.
She
said
she
would
look
into
it.
I
know
it's
a
really
busy
agenda
and
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
closed
session,
so
we'd
like
to
move
it
along,
but
we
don't
know
much
else.
Unless
Patrick
has
anything
new
I
do.
C
Not
know
one
thing,
one
thing,
though,
that
we
have
one
thing
that
we've
discussed:
Patrick
dan
and
I
when
we
were
preparing
the
agenda
was
referring
to
the
fact
that
last
month
we
voted
to
establish
a
an
ad
hoc
subcommittee
on
habitat
protection,
and
we
realized
that
the
subcommittee
would
be
you
and
Jane
garrison
and
other
people.
We
thought
as
an
alternate.
It
might
be
better
to
not
have
a
subcommittee.
Have
them
form
a
subcommittee
and
have
you
be?
The
liaison
for
that
subcommittee?
F
B
F
So
I
spoken
with
Richard,
noble
of
the
climate
reality
project
and
depth
for
a
long
time
now,
so
he
has
a
couple
of
ideas
that
he
would
like
to
have
sustainability
take
on
the
first
one.
Is
this
climate
change
summit?
There's
no
date,
I
suggested
the
fall
to
give
us
enough
time
to
plan
anything,
and
the
idea
behind
this
is
it
would
take
place
at
the
Camelot
theater
and
he
Richard
wants
to
invite
the
mayor
of
Salt
Lake
City
and
someone
in
governing
Newsome's
office
a
half-day
event
with
a
couple
of
short.
F
F
F
Need
for
some
reasoning,
things
that
purple
energy
would
be
willing
to
bring
out
power
trucks
to
use
for
the
generating
of
electricity
for
the
bands
and
whatnot,
and
also
to
involve
the
school
district
and
to
get
more
given
that's
more
of
a
family
friendly
things
for
kids
and
get
them
all
out
on
that
I.
Don't
know
what
day
of
the
week
that
is
April
22nd
of
next
year.
So
those
are
his
two
ideas,
so
I
just
bring
that
to
everyone
for
discussion.
B
F
F
D
E
E
F
E
E
G
F
F
F
I
You
can
sure
Clark
is
the
agenda
from
GWA,
so
I
do
have
a
fair
amount
of
reporting
back
items
that
are
of
interest
for
our
group.
First
is
the
TWA
is
working
on
the
rebate
programs
for
the
new
fiscal
year,
beginning
July
1.
It
plans
to
increase
the
residential
rebate
from
$1
per
square
foot
to
$2
per
square
foot.
Commercial
rebates
will
still
be
available,
$2
per
square
foot
and
municipal
rebates.
That
means
us
have
$3
per
square
foot.
I
For
the
first
time,
rebates
will
be
available
in
private
areas,
such
as
backyards,
side
yards
behind
walls
and
the
HOA
interiors,
and
when
we
do
our
budget
for
next
year,
which
I
mentioned
last
month,
I
really
would
love
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
support
the
DWI
efforts,
either
that's
additional
funds
or
waiving
some
permit
fees,
because
I
do
believe
that
the
planning
services
Department
will
have
a
minor
architectural
application
with
some
fee.
So
perhaps
that
could
be
to
incur
some
of
the
HOAs
to
get
their
interior
areas.
I
But
that's
prop
one
funds,
so
I
understand
Patrick
that
you're
working
with
Ashley
on
that,
and
perhaps
you
can
give
us
a
staff
report
back
to
there
next
month
or
July.
So
we
know
what
we're
doing
I've
been
sort
of
raising
that
issue
for
at
least
two
or
three
years
with
Stacey
and
I'd
love
to
see
something
go
forward
on
that.
So.
E
I
can
just
give
you
a
quick
feedback
on
that,
so
I've
been
working
sort
of
behind
the
scenes
to
coordinate
the
interested
parties
here
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
smooth
path
for
whatever
they
would
be
coming
up
with.
So
essentially
what
we
were
waiting
for,
the
budget
conversations
both
with
the
city
as
well
as
with
DWA,
and
so
as
soon
as
all
that
stuff
is
finalized.
E
Then
we'll
move
forward
with
a
formal
kind
of
proposal
for
what
we
want
to
do
so,
but
anyway,
but
everybody
seems
to
be
in
favor
of
doing
something
and
so
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
what
that
looks
like
and
how
much
it
might
cost.
But
we've
also
also
did
set
aside
some
funds
in
our
budget,
as
I
think
I
mentioned
last
time
that
I
wanted
to
try
to
ramp
up
that
that
conversion
program
as
well
so
and
maybe
read
stitute
some
of
our
our
rebate
programs
as
well.
So
great.
I
Okay
quickly,
TWA
we're
senators
next
board
meeting,
which
is
June
4th
the
district
map,
our
proposed
district
map
for
the
elections
beginning
in
November
2020,
and
that
will
incorporate
public
comment
at
the
two
public
hearings
last
month
and
Desert
Hot
Springs
and
at
their
headquarters
as
well
and
then
finally,
very
good
news
of
the
cool
weather.
It's
reducing
a
substantial
amount
of
water
savings.
I
So
there
is
a
twenty
eight
point:
seven
percent
reduction
in
April
compared
with
the
2013
benchmark
cumulative
savings
over
the
last
12
months
is
17.7%
and
since
the
savings
began
in
June
2016
of
their
10-point,
10
to
13
percent
target
and
they're
at
17.3
present
targets
so
way
to
go.
Palm
Springs
we're
doing
exceedingly
well
with
obviously
a
little
bit
of
a
Cathedral
City
in
the
cove,
but
largely
that's
a
DWI
gwas
Palm
Springs
service
area.
So
keep
up
the
good
work
on
water
conservation.
B
K
Spoke
with
Tracy
Albrecht
of
BLM
and
the
Santa
Rosa
San
Jacinto
Mountains
National
Monument
about
at
some
point
doing
a
fountain
grass
eradication
program
where
we
could
maybe
work
I
suggested.
Perhaps
the
urban
Conservation
Corps,
where
they
could
do
some
of
the
work
of
taking
it
out,
because
it's
labor
intensive
and
if
we
could
give
them
an
alternative
that
would
be
replanted
right
there.
That
would
be
beautiful,
but
not
invasive.
I
One
thing
I
will
mention:
that's
in
our
report
at
our
June
4th
I
believe
committee
meeting
will
be
meeting
with
Jocelyn
Kane
who's.
The
vice
president
of
CV.
Can
the
cannabis
Alliance
network
just
to
have
begin
the
discussion
of
sustainability
in
the
cannabis
industry
here
in
Palm
Springs
and
then
we'll
see
what
form
of
action
or
report
back
or
whether
she
potentially
do
a
presentation
here
so
it'll
be
definitely
be
in
the
written
report
and
we'll
see
what
you
know
whether
there's
additional
reportable
items
back
to
the
Commission.
I
G
I'll
keep
it
brief.
I
hope
I
just
wanted
to
express
my
gratitude
to
the
city
for
letting
those
of
us
who
attended
participate
in
the
neighborhood's
USA
conference
last
week,
I
was
able
to
rack
up
some
certification
maintenance
credits
for
my
SME.
Thank
you
very
much
so
because
of
that
I
thought.
I
should
mention
some
of
the
things
that
I
picked
up
from
some
of
the
sessions
that
I
attended.
G
I
did
go
to
one
for
streamlining
development
review,
which
was
interesting
to
me
just
from
the
perspective
that
I've
been
how
the
City
Planning
specific
I'm,
an
environmental
planner.
For
those
of
you
don't
know,
but
I've
been
out
of
City
planning
for
15
years
and
I
thought
it
was
kind
of
funny
that
this
group,
that
was
doing
that
particular
session,
were
presenting
specific
ideas
that
some
of
us
were
using
25
years
ago.
So,
frankly,
I
didn't
learn
much
from
that
one.
So
I
sort
of
skipped
around
a
little
bit.
G
There
was
one
that
was
particularly
interesting.
I
thought
about
green
or
and
homes
and
neighborhoods
think
maybe
David
was
in
that
one
also
where
the
fellow
from
Eugene
was
talking
about.
Permaculture
in
particular,
and
how
he
had
done
things
like
taken
out
portions
of
his
driveway,
he
parks
on
the
street.
G
Because
there
is
currently
a
trend
to
eliminate
minimum
parking
standards
in
a
lot
of
cities,
but
I
got
the
impression
that
he
may
have
done
that
quite
a
while
ago
there
was
another
session
I
attended
about
open
data
for
neighborhood
needs,
which
initially
I
thought
would
be
mostly
useful
for
a
city
or
county
staff.
Looking
at
information,
this
was
presented
by
some
folks
from
Los
Angeles,
but
it
was
really
just
fascinating
to
figure
out
how
much
data
is
available
to
any
neighborhood
user.
But
maybe
that
is
kind
of
a
demographic
and
nerdy
thing.
G
But
I
was
curious
about
the
aesthetics
of
certain
things,
because
we
have
some
of
those
and
then
I
wear
my
other
hat
I've
been
dealing
with
the
city
down
Valley,
that's
been
implementing
a
lot
of
roundabouts,
and
so
they
they're
able
to
deal
with
that
from
an
aesthetic
perspective,
a
lot
more
easily
I
think,
but
their
response
was
that
they
had
not
focused
as
much
as
on
aesthetics.
They
were
not
so
easy
to
say
progressive
as
their
neighbor
across
the
river
Portland
is,
and
so
they
they
referred
to
some
of
Portland's
efforts.
G
But
what
was
particularly
interesting
about
that
session
was
something
that
another
audience
member
brought
up,
which
was
something
called
Road
tattoos,
which
was
the
term
I
had
never
heard
of,
and
that
is
basically
a
painting
in
the
street
or
intersection.
And
so
because
several
of
us
were
interested.
The
session
people
brought
it
up
on
their
internet
like
kind
of
like
here,
and
so
what
are
you
talking
about?
G
They
may
go
away
for
college
and
they'd
never
come
back,
so
they
started
involving
the
teenagers
in
the
planning
process
to
make
sure
that
what
they're
planning
for
the
future
of
the
community
is
like,
or
the
county
overall
is
something
that
would
draw
these
younger
people
back
in
the
future.
So
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
interesting.
G
Finally,
I
will
just
mention
that
I
was
not
here
last
month,
because
I
was
attending
the
American
Planning
Association
conference
in
San
Francisco,
the
National
Conference,
where
I
gave
a
presentation
which
I
called
greenwashing
a
brown
scape,
which
the
focus
was
on
renewable
energy
in
the
desert
and
by
that
term
I
I
meant
greenwashing
in
terms
of
it's
not
always
necessarily
environmentally
beneficial
in
remote
areas.
So
I
was
just
sort
of
playing
on
words
there.
G
G
The
way
transportation
is
analyzed,
traffic
specifically
analyzed
is
changed
and
those
changes
are
not
being
required
to
be
implemented
until
next
year.
I
believe
it
is,
and
so
a
friend
of
mine,
from
up
in
the
Bay
Area,
was
giving
a
presentation
that
I
wanted
to
attend
and
he
had
a
really
interesting
graph.
G
That
would
have
been
some
good
terminology
to
terminology
to
have
had
in
my
pocket,
because
we
have
been
talking
about
Road
diets
and
I
was
also
trying
to
emphasize
this
new
terminology
capacity
improvement
project
for
that
project
and
in
particular,
so
people
recognize
that
automobile
vehicular
traffic
can
flow
very
steadily
and
not
back
up,
while
you're
still
accommodating
other
modes
of
transportation,
be
a
bicycle
or
by
foot
or
whatever
so
anyway.
So
that's
it.
Thank
you
that
wasn't
so
sure.
After
all,
thank
you
grant.