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B
B
A
Thank
you,
since
this
is
a
public
hearing
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue.
That's
within
this
committee's
purview
comments
on
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
that
that
item
is
presented.
If
you
want
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda,
you
may
speak
now.
Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes.
A
A
E
A
You
all
in
favor,
aye,
okay,
there
is
no
unfinished
business,
so
we're
gonna,
move
on
to
new
business
item
number
three:
Eddie
Edwards
on
behalf
of
WCR
Holdings,
LLC,
owner
proposing
alterations
to
Harlow
Haven,
a
class
1
historic
site
and
the
Crawford
apartments,
a
class
3
Historic
Site
may
be.
We
have
the
staff
report.
Please.
Yes,.
F
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
as
noted
in
your
staff
report.
This
is
an
application
for
architectural
review.
The
project.
It
also
involves
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
proposed
use
of
assisted
living
facility
and
substance
abuse,
Recovery
Center
and
the
project
was
also
subject
to
HSP
B
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
because
of
alterations
to
class
1
sites
and
a
contributing
site
in
the
Las
Palmas
business
historic
district.
F
The
project
before
you
is
outlined,
beginning
on
page
2
of
your
staff
report,
with
the
conditions
that
were
imposed
by
the
HSP
beyond
their
review
in
April
and
I'll
go
through
those.
In
a
moment
with
you
on
page
3
of
your
staff
report,
you
have
a
site
plan
that
really
kind
of
shows
what
the
overall
area
is
that
this
project
is
encompassing
the
two
sites
are
proposed
to
be
merged,
so
the
northerly
site,
as
you
see
on
page
3,
is
Harlow
Haven.
F
The
southern
site
is
the
Crawford
apartments
and
they
were
originally
developed
as
two
small
family-type
in
back
in
the
30s
and
40s.
The
projects
of
the
site's
have
both
been
vacant
for
a
considerable
number
of
years
now,
and
the
owner
has
owned
the
site
for
several
years
now
and
is
prepared
to
move
this
project
forward.
F
The
details
of
the
application
begin
on
page
five
of
your
staff
report
and
essentially
what
you're
seeing
here
in
the
case
of
the
crawford
apartments,
which
is
the
site
that
is
the
south
half
more
or
less
of
the
project
site
they're,
really
taking
this
rather
nondescript
older,
small
hotel
and
adding
on
to
it
some
details
that
are
reflective
of
some
of
the
architectural
detailing
at
the
Harlow
Haven.
The
Crawford
apartments,
which
is
the
southernmost
building
that
is
shown
on
page
5,
is
1945.
F
It
is
a
pretty
nondescript
building,
as
we
went
through
with
HSP,
be
they
understand
that
the
building
is
pretty
much
a
simple
shed
type
building
or
a
gable
type
building
with
not
much
real
detail.
And
when
you
look
at
the
photos
from
Harlow,
Haven
you'll
see
that
that
building
from
1937
has
more
architectural
detail
on
it
in
a
simplified,
Spanish,
Colonial,
Revival
style,
and
it
is
that
building
that
the
applicant
is
taking
their
architectural
clues
from
in
the
improvements
that
they're
proposing
on
the
crawford
apartment
site,
the
two
sites
are
merged
in
understanding.
F
How
this
will
function,
it'll
be
a
total
of
I
believe
it
was
20
beds
for
the
patients.
The
parking
lot,
which
you
see
on
the
page
three
of
years,
I'm,
sorry,
yeah,
page
three
of
your
staff
report
will
provide
the
place
where
you
actually
enter
the
site
if
you're
coming
in
as
a
guest
or
a
visitor
or
potentially
patient
and
the
what
is
basically
the
northerly
leg
of
the
Crawford
l-shaped
buildings
is
where
the
front
office
would
be
for
a
patient
intake.
The
two
sites
are
connected,
then
via
pedestrian
paseo.
F
F
You
also
can
see
here
on
this
particular
image,
the
parking
lot
and
a
small
amount
of
landscaping
and
soft
areas
that's
being
proposed
between
the
parking
lot
and
the
building
itself,
as
well
as
landscaping
to
provide
privacy
and
some
softening
around
the
west
side
of
both
properties.
Most
of
the
northerly
sight,
which
is
the
Harlow
Haven
site,
as
you
can
see
in
this
photo,
is
quite
lush
Lee
planted
and
is
all
of
the
buildings
are
very
deteriorated,
they're
in
reasonably
good
condition.
F
In
order
to
move
this
thing
forward,
so
you're
not
seeing
really
alterations
to
the
Harbor
Haven
site,
the
primary
alterations
are
happening
on
the
crawford
apartment
site.
So
this
gives
you
a
existing
conditions
and
then
what
is
proposed,
because
these
are
historic
sites,
the
parking
that's
being
provided,
which
I
believe
is
an
11
space.
F
This
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
a
close-up
on
the
landscape
area
and
you
can
see
the
trees
that
are
being
proposed
along
the
south
side
of
that
parking
lot
and
small
water
feature
that's
being
proposed
along
the
westerly
side
of
the
parking
lot.
As
you
look
at
the
parking
lot
also
there
in
the
upper
left
part
of
this
image,
there
are
two
areas
there
on
either
side:
small
rectangular
areas
that
are
the
loading
areas
for
trash
and
recycling.
F
Here
you
have
kind
of
a
before
and
after
this
is
the
what
I
call
the
southern
leg
of
the
Crawford
apartments.
Building
most
of
this
left
image
that
you
see
will
be
dismantled
and
the
new
structure
will
be
brought
out
so
that
the
face
of
it
or
the
easterly
elevation
is
an
alignment
with
the
existing
building.
F
There
you
see
to
the
north-
and
this
is
a
little
bit
of
the
connection
point
between
the
two
sites
of
the
archway
you
see
in
the
lower
left-
is
a
portal
through
which
the
two
sites
will
connect
at
a
pedestrian
level
within
the
two
sites.
The
lower
right
that
you
see
there
is
a
small
two-story
structure,
I
think
it
was
originally
functioning
as
this
garage
for
the
building
owners,
and
then
you
can
see
there
are
simple
enhancements
that
are
being
proposed
and
then
the
small
stone
I
think
it's
a
flag.
F
A
flagpole
base
is
right
there
at
that
entrance
that
you
see
in
the
pedestrian
area
to
the
middle
right.
Here
you
see
some
of
the
details
that
exist
on
the
harlow
Haven
site.
These
will
remain
and
be
repaired
where
necessary.
There's
a
lot
of
dilapidation
on
this
building
and
the
roof.
Tiles
are
in
bad
condition.
F
The
upper
left
is
the
courtyard
pool
area
of
the
harlow
Haven
Hotel.
That
remains
essentially,
as
you
see
it,
with
maintenance
and
landscape
revisions
where
there
have
been
plants
that
have
died
or
become
overgrown.
The
lower
left
is
the
same.
That's
looking
north
toward
that
central
paseo
or
Okwe
that
carries
through
the
two
sites
and
then,
of
course,
the
other
two
you
see
on
the
right.
There
are
the
images
of
the
Crawford.
F
That
concludes
that
part
of
the
report.
So,
as
we've
analyzed
this,
there
are
three
sets
of
guidelines
that
this
project
has
been
evaluated
against
the
normal
guidelines
for
architectural
review
in
9404,
which
begins
on
page
11
of
your
staff
report,
as
well
as
the
review
of
the
project
against
the
Las
Palmas
business,
historic
district
design
guidelines.
Those
are
shown
in
the
on
page
10
of
your
staff
report
and
in
reviewing
this
project.
F
We
find
that
the
project
is
consistent
with
both
those
sets
of
guidelines,
and
it
is
because
of
that
that
we're
recommending
that
you
recommend
approval
of
this
project
by
the
Planning
Commission.
The
applicants,
architect
and
landscape
architect,
is
in
the
audience
and
would
like
to
further
explain
the
project
or
answer
any
other
questions.
You
have
and
I
am
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
as
well,
and
we
are
recommending
approval
so.
D
D
C
F
They
basically
were
looking
at
here.
Remember
Otteman
was
that
the
work
that
they're
proposing
to
do
on
the
crawford
is
obviously
adding
on
historical
references
right
to
what's
already
an
old
building
and
when
they
looked
at
that
they're
looking
for
basically
what
I
guess,
I
would
call
authenticity
so
we're
seeing
the
very
thin
four
by
four
wood
posts
being
replaced
with
heavier
stout
precast
round
columns.
F
They
also
saw
the
casing
that
was
being
proposed
around
the
windows
was
unnecessary
and
sort
of
too
much
fuss
for
what
we
typically
see
on
a
simplified
Spanish
Colonial
Revival
here
in
Palm
Springs,
and
the
recommendation
was
get
rid
of
all
that
trim
than
casing
and
simply
go
in
with
a
radiused
corner
on
those
window.
Casings
the
other
work.
F
Stucco
wall,
if
you
will
that's
adjacent
to
the
stair
rather
than
running
it
at
an
angle,
with
the
stairway
to
step
that
with
three
or
four
steps
was
something
that
they
had
recommended
as
slightly
more
inconsistent
with
the
style
and
then
the
others
are
merely
material
type
of
replacements
that
the
tile
matched
the
two-piece
tile
in
the
harlow
Haven,
and
that
the
work
be
done
in
accordance
with
the
Secretary
of
Interior
standards.
So
they
were
really
looking
that
what
you
do
there.
C
D
F
The
first
question
is:
yes:
I
just
had
a
brain
fart
that
I
forgot
to
bring
those
boards
in
so
talk
amongst
yourself,
a
minute
and
I'll
run
and
get
them.
The
materials
are
primarily
stucco
and
the
wood
timber
that
you
see
already
at
the
Harville
Haven
site,
which
they're
going
to
be
doing
some
consolidates
in
it,
because
it's
got
some
dry,
rot
and
stuff
like
that
in
it,
as
well
as
a
two-piece
clay
tile,
that
is
it
Harlow
Haven
will
be
matched
in
its
color
and
style
to
what
they're
putting
in
at
the
Crawford
apartments.
F
F
G
F
F
Project
is
compliant
in
terms
of
the
requirement
for
open
space.
It's
non
compliant
in
terms
of
setbacks
and
distance
between
buildings,
because,
of
course,
their
buildings
from
the
40s
and
30s,
and
so
they
are
not
matching
and
they're
not
conforming
to
the
current
set
of
setback.
Requirements
for
on
the
r3
zone.
G
A
F
F
I'll,
have
the
applicants
architect
clarify
that
for
that
further
further
for
you
on
she
be
you
do
get
a
glimpse
of
that
arch
element.
That's
being
proposed
there
in
the
lower
right
side,
though,
so
that's
that
that's
part
of
that
transition
point
between
the
two
sites,
but
I'll
have
him
further
clarify
the
wall
that
you're
asking
about
and.
A
F
A
H
But
basically
the
mass
of
the
building
is
going
to
remain
the
same
in
both
building
C
and
buildings,
D
for
the
crawford
apartments,
we're
trying
to
enhance
those
and
convert
those
so
that
they
are
more
in
line
with
the
Harlow
Haven
buildings.
We're
adding
stucco
columns
in
place
with
some
wood
posts,
essentially
we're
replacing
the
roof
with
the
2-piece
barrel,
tile
roof
that
we're
going
to
try
and
match.
As
close
as
we
can,
the
windows
and
doors
are
all
going
to
be
designed
to
match
the
existing
facilities
over
at
the
Harlow
Haven.
H
So
we
want
to
tie
that
in
so
this
will
look
like
one
facility
when
it's
completed
we're
also
trying
to
use
some
of
the
you
know,
classic
Revival
style
detailing
we
have
some
wrought
iron
and
some
you
know
decorative
metal
that
we're
going
to
use
so
we're
hoping
that
the
whole
facility
will
come
out
appearing
as
one
facility
and
we
feel
it's
going
to
function
well
and
be
an
enhancement
to
the
community.
I
can
answer
any
questions.
I'd
be
happy
to
committee.
G
H
What
we
like
to
do,
there
is
we're
gonna
salvage
is
a
bunch
of
that
tile
as
we
can
so
they'll
pull
it
off
and
that
obviously,
the
tiles
that
are
broken
are
going
to
get
discarded,
but
the
ones
that
they
can
save
they're
going
to
save.
In
this
case,
this
has
sort
of
a
medium
built
up
roof,
there's
some
mortar
in
there,
which
makes
it
even
more
difficult
to
take
apart,
but
they'll
do
the
best
that
they
can.
H
Then
what
we
try
and
do
is
get
a
similar
color
mix
and
size
that
we
can
integrate
in
and
spread
it
all
around.
We
don't
want
to
have
one
section,
looking
like
it's
new
tile
and
another
section,
looking
like
it's
old
tile,
we're
hoping
to
get
the
whole
thing
to
look
like
it
does
today
we're
planning
to
use
the
same,
build
up
and
I
want
to
say
it's
like
a
30
or
40
percent
build
up
and
where
you
want
to
emulate
that.
H
So
when
they
put
the
thing
back
on
I,
we
feel
there's
a
lot
of
structure.
That's
gonna
get
rebuilt
I,
don't
know
that
much
maintenance
has
been
done
on
these
buildings
over
the
years.
I'm
sure
we're
gonna
get
into
it
and
find
that
there's
a
lot
of
rotted
roof
members
and
things
like
that.
So
all
that's
gonna
get
replaced
and
then
the
roof
will
put
be
put
back
on
and
hopefully
it's
going
to
look
very
similar
to
what
it
looks
like
today.
Okay,
another.
G
H
G
H
H
G
I
Good
afternoon
a
couple
quick
questions
in
the
I
see
the
railings
suggestion
from
H
s.
Pb
was
that,
instead
of
curved
pickets,
you
go
to
straight.
Does
that
in
consideration?
Oh.
H
H
I
Actually,
if
you
can
just
tell
me
about
the
sconces
that
you're
using
do
you
know
what
lamping
it
is
I
asked
because
I
would
like
to
see
this.
This
is
it's
a
very
nice-looking
projects,
very
handsome.
You
can
keep
it
in
more
of
a
residential
feel,
rather
than
a
commercial
keeping
the
lamp
colors
warm
and
softer
and.
H
H
Yeah
I
mean
we'd
like
to
do
something:
that's
sympathetic
to
the
architecture
a
lot
of
times.
Those
are
lantern
wrought,
iron
sort
of
turns
those
can
be
trickier
because
they
don't
shield
well
a
lot
of
times.
They
they
send
the
light
out,
but
they
there
are
a
few.
Those
are
the
light
sources
tucked
up
into
the
canopy
at
the
top
and
they
can
give
you
that
feel.
But
that's
the
general
intention
right.
I
A
A
D
D
Things
actually
I
wouldn't
mind,
hearing
from
the
landscape
folks
and
hearing
about
some
of
what
they're
the
intent
is
and
what's
going
on,
particularly
with
hard
scape
services,
also
as
well
as
landscape,
but
I'm
wondering
what
that
I'm.
Just
looking
at
the
material
board
and
I
think
I
see
that
lift
that
John
was
asking
about
that
and
I
don't
quite
see
it
on
the
elevations
I
just
yeah.
So
it's
not
really
an
elevator.
It's
a
it's.
H
H
D
A
C
C
K
H
Like
words,
yeah
there's,
no,
that's
not
the
intention.
Okay,
there
are
these
little.
What
did
they
used
to
call
it?
It's
it's
a
speakeasy
door.
You
know
you
would
open
up
a
little
thing
and
we're
gonna
try
and
actually
emulate
that
a
little
bit
I,
don't
know
that
we'll
be
able
to
match
that
detail
exactly,
but
we're
gonna
try
and
incorporate
that
into
the
doors
we
thought
it
was.
A
nice
touch.
Okay,.
C
And
the
only
sort
of
comment
is
that
on
the
upper
deck,
the
spacing
of
the
columns
look
a
little
modern
in
terms
it's.
It
doesn't
seem
to
be
in
fitting
with
the
rhythm
of
the
pecans
below
and
when
you
get
these
big
spans
on
the
second
floor,
it
kind
of
loses
a
historical
sense
to
it.
So
I'm
wondering
if
you'd
be
open
to
adding
more
columns,
even
if
you
don't
need
them
just
because
I
think
it'll
help
the
elevation
tie
it
together.
C
A
H
Those
are
good
questions
we're.
What
we're
contemplating
is
to
use
relatively
small
systems
for
this
more
on
a
residential
scale.
We
have
the
attic
spaces
where
we
can
run
ductwork
through
and
we
can
incorporate
units
in
there.
So
a
lot
of
these
are
probably
going
to
be
hotel
type
of
units
where
they're,
so
each
of
the
rooms
can
be
heated
and
cooled
separately
and
we
would
also
have
they'll
have
little
heat
pumps,
which
will
probably
be
outside
of
the
buildings.
So
that's
for
the
residential
areas.
That's!
H
A
I
notice
on
the
roof
plan
of
building
see
mm-hmm,
you
indicate
remove
existing
roof.
Top
mechanical
equipment
doesn't
say
what
it
was
servicing,
but
there
obviously
was
a
mechanical
bay
up
on
the
roof
and
then
there's
another
note,
modify
rough
pitch
and
extend
existing
roof.
This
location
only
I,
don't
quite
understand
what
what
that
is,
but
I
guess
my
comment
would
be.
We
don't
want
to
see
mechanical
equipment
ductwork
those
big
brown
mushroom
hoods
out
of
the
kitchen
on
these
tile
roofs,
but
also
I
notice.
A
You
have
a
number
of
smaller
roof
decks
or
balconies
off
some
of
the
second-floor
rooms
that
fumes
and
things
from
the
kitchen
aren't
going
to
be
going
into
those
second-floor
rooms
because
it
looks
like
the
kitchen.
Hood
will
probably
be
down
at
the
first
floor
level,
and
then
you
do
have
rooms
literally
immediately.
H
A
It
seems
that
it
wouldn't
be
cost-effective
to
build
a
whole
underground
basement.
Just
for
a
hundred
and
eighty-seven
square
foot,
mechanical
herb,
storage
room,
especially
with
their
I,
would
guess
you
could
grab
a
corner
of
the
site
somewhere
to
do
an
addition
on
to
the
building
to
do
that,
and
then
you
wouldn't
have
to
deal
with
the
steps
down.
You
wouldn't
have
to
deal
with
drainage
of
water,
running
down
the
stairs,
etc,
etcetera.
A
So
that's
just
something
to
just
a
comment:
okay
appreciate
that
also
we'd
like
to
see
electric
meters
and
gas
meters
where
they're
gonna
be
located
and
how
they're
gonna
be
screened.
J
K
With
any
historically
significant
building,
basically
it's
the
main
thing
is
the
mature
trees
and
what
we
want
to
keep
and
we
want
to
preserve
them
and
the
skyline
for
the
city,
and
so
the
owner
has
actually
recently
cleaned
up
those
palms
and
they
look
very
good
I'm
very
happy
with
the
way
they
look
today
when
I
visited
the
site,
the
only
thing
I
probably
want
to
talk
about
the
mature
trees.
There's
a
really
nice
set
of
twin
California
fan
palms
mm-hmm.
K
Those
are
the
California
virgin
the
Washington
flippers.
We
are
going
to
propose
to
actually
locate
them
where
we
can
see
them
as
we
have
a
matching
set,
so
that
isn't
reflecting
in
my
plan,
but
the
main
thing
is
very
similar
to
what
Gary
is
doing
is
trying
to
join
the
two
lots
and
make
them
match
each
other
and
look
the
same
character.
So
we
don't
want
to
eliminate
mature
plants
what
few
ones
there
are
on
the
Crawford
Hotel.
We
don't
want
them.
K
We
don't
want
to
eliminate
those
because
they're
in
the
way
of
the
parking
so
I
would.
One
of
my
emphasizes
well,
I'd
like
to
emphasize,
would
be
we're
gonna,
actually
that
we're
gonna
take
those
and
we're
gonna,
relocate
them,
and
that's
a
simple
pic
with
a
crane
and
relocate
what
we
don't
have
to
stage
or
anything
they
are
big,
but
we'll
be
able
to
do
it.
K
Another
thing
is
matching
the
streetscape
for
what
is
gonna,
be
new
on
the
South
portion
of
the
property
or
project
matching
it
with
other
kind
of
character
of
the
landscape
in
the
area.
So
we
took
a
walk,
looked
at
the
yellow
Lantana,
which
is
on
my
list-
and
you
know
I've
already
previously
done
that,
but
just
wanted
to
kind
of
back
it
up
in
my
memory
and
make
sure
that
I
had
all
the
plants
that
I
like
now.
You
can
see
my
plant
list,
it's
it's
very.
K
K
After
visiting
the
site
and
the
area
was
the
Palo
Verde
probably
eliminate
one
of
the
other
ones
like
a
lager,
stroma
and
use
a
Palo
Verde
hybrid
of
some
sort
so
and
then
the
reason
why
I
didn't
identify
each
specific
location
for
each
tree
is
for
the
conceptual
purposes
to
keep
it
simple.
Some
of
those
trees
are
larger
than
others.
The
larger
ones
will
go
in
the
larger
spaces.
The
smaller
ones
will
go
in
the
smaller
spaces
where
we
need
them,
but
those
that
plant
list
is
as
fairly
solved.
K
There
might
be
some
other
small
ground
covers
or
something
that
we
use,
but
nothing
that
will
be
in
the
public
right-of-way
for
you
or
you
know,
they'll
make
an
impact
on
the
visual
aspect
of
the
property.
Let's
see
you
can
see
a
large
Grove
of,
though
California
fan
palms
right
on
the
property
line
between
the
two
sites.
K
K
K
J
K
Think
the
users
and
the
owners
could
tell
it
could
add
to
that.
That
was
brought
to
my
attention.
That
was
a
discussion
point
today
and
it's
most
likely
gonna
be
minimal
reduced
in
size.
It
was
going
to
be
a
koi
pond
and
a
relaxing
area.
Those
the
unit's
right
there
are
for
a
special
need
apparently-
and
it's
very
needs
to
be
very
soothing.
K
We're
gonna
actually
create
probably
a
little
bit
more
of
a
use
area
with
some
with
a
little
bit
more
turf
in
there
or
type
of
ground
cover
and
keep
it
as
seating
and
maybe
use
some
water
features
along
closer
to
the
wall,
but
not
have
that
large
of
a
koi
pond
type
fame,
but
that
was
brought
up
by
one
of
the
I
guess:
doctors
or
people
who
use
the
you
know
helped
run
the
facility.
That
was
an
idea
so.
A
H
A
H
H
A
K
So
this
I
can,
after
that
there
is
music
use
this.
Thank
you.
There's
about
a
three-foot
buffer
between
the
wall,
the
face
of
the
wall
and
the
back
side
of
the
sidewalk
right
there.
It
doesn't
read
well
because
the
hatch
pattern
we
use
probably
doesn't
have
much
room
to
show
itself,
but
that
would
be
other
ground
cover.
Your
covers
and
perennials.
D
K
D
K
So
I
visited
I
visited
a
retail
place
this
afternoon
and
looked
at
a
product
that
the
owner
was
interested
in.
It
looks
it's
a
manufactured
stone
with
limestone
and
shells
in
it,
and
then
it's
media
blasted.
So
it
has
a
rough
finish.
So
you
see
the
stones
and
the
quartz
and
stuff
and
apparently
stays
about
70%
cooler
than
regular
of
paving
I.
Don't
know
where
it's
made
wouldn't
tell
me,
but
it
was.
It
was
a
nice
product
it.
K
It
looked
very
much
like
a
phosphorus
first
first
limestone
and
it
was
I
liked
it
and
it
was
kind
of
like
a
bath
color.
So
if
that's
what
we
end
up
going
with
the
majority
of
the
paving,
which
is
now
flagstone
and
broken
and
not
reinforced,
so
there's
elevation,
which
causes
a
large
trip
hazard,
you'll,
see
it's
gonna
be
very
similar
that
except
there
will
be
16
inch
square
media
blasted.
K
D
H
Is
a
concrete
coping,
mmm-hmm
and
I?
Don't
know
that
we've
made
a
determination
if
we're
gonna,
replace
that
or
not
we're
gonna
get
some
pool
consultants
there.
One
modification
is
going
to
be
to
the
spa
area
because
we're
gonna
have
to
make
that
accessible,
so,
whether
we're
ramping
up
to
it
or
lowering
it,
we
haven't
quite
determined
how
we're
gonna
do
that
yet.
But
that's
also
gonna
have
a
slight
modification
yeah.
H
It
is
the
removable
lift
and
that
can
and
usually
use
them,
both
at
the
spas
and
at
the
pool
that
a
person
can
sit
in
they're,
usually
kind
of
strapped
into
it
a
little
bit
and
it
cranks
drinks
them
down.
That's
the
most
common
way
that
you
access
a
pool,
you
know
they're,
usually
removable,
so
they
don't
have
to
sit
there.
They
just
go
into
a
sleeve
mm-hmm.
So
that's
probably
what
we'd
be
doing.
J
A
I
I
I
I
I
I
K
K
K
A
K
E
J
K
D
K
D
K
A
H
A
H
H
A
In
the
situation
here
in
the
desert,
more
often
we'll
use
dry
wells
which
drained
very
quickly
and
then
they
don't
become
an
issue
for
the
topography
of
the
landscape
or
the
potential
that
water
from
the
whole
site
will
flood
into
there
and
kill
off
your
plant
material.
So
I
would
hope
that
you'd
talk
with
your
civil
and
let
me
look
at
that.
I
will
make
a
note
to
do
that.
A
A
D
D
A
J
My
name
is
Josie
Herndon
and
I'm,
the
executive
director
for
the
program-
and
this
is
mark
Greenberg,
administrator
and
consultants
of
course.
So
this
is
gonna
be
a
treatment
center
for
drugs
and
alcohol
and
behavioral
health
services.
Our
clients
will
stay
for
30
days,
primarily
so
there'll
be
detoxification
and
residential
treatment,
so
the
back
door.
The
gate
I
mean
just
about
going
back
to
the
gate.
On
the
Harlow
side,
that's
gonna
be
there
for
emergency
and
for
staff.
J
G
J
J
There
would
be
a
ramp
up
to
full
occupancy
and
that
obviously
will
go
tie
into
our
whole
marketing
plans,
and
you
know
this
we'll
be
taking
this
on
the
idea
and
presenting
it
to
all
over
the
country
to
try
and
attract
people
to
come
to
this
area.
To
for
this
type
of
care,
probably
I
would
say
at
least
18
months
to
you
know
it
takes
the
first
18
months.
J
A
J
Mean
my
bio
I
couldn't
tell
you
that
I
originally
came
into
this
area.
Don't
live
here
anymore,
but
I
originally
came
here
in
1978
to
help
start
an
outpatient
clinic
at
Eisenhower,
which
grew
into
the
Betty
Ford
Center,
so
I
was
their
first
administrator,
so
I've
been
in
Joseon
I've
worked
together
for
years,
we're
very
familiar
with
this
type
of
care
and
what's
what's
needed
to
today's
environment,.
F
A
J
D
J
A
A
A
Well,
let
me
start
no
mercy
normally
I'd
go
at
the
end.
It's
quite
a
undertaking
to
take
that
very
plain
kind
of
derelict
building
and
bring
it
up
to
Harlow.
Haven
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
addition
to
that
part
of
town.
I.
Think
the
size
of
that
upper
terrace
looks
overwhelming
compared
to
the
rest
and
I
think
Roberts
suggestion
of
adding
a
colonnade
of
columns
along
there
will
just
tie
that
into
the
project
better,
and
so
it
won't
look.
It
looks
very
contemporary
as
it
is
now.
A
The
lift
really
bothers
me
if
we
think
about
the
old
General,
Electric
general
telephone
building
here
that
became
Azul
bar
and
they
have
one
of
these
freestanding
lifts
in
the
back
attached
to
an
old
building,
and
it
just
looks
so
out
of
place
that
I
think
that
the
lift
needs
to
be
reconsidered.
To
be
more
of
an
architectural.
D
D
D
D
It's
my
guess
is
they're
at
the
stage
where
it's
going
from
design
development
to
some
construction
documents
and
all
that
stuff's
pretty
achievable
at
some
point
in
the
near
future.
Who
needs
thinking
about
if
it's
moving
forward
anyway.
So
it's
a
great
project
I
would
think
that
it's
going
to
move
forward
here,
I'm
anxious
to
see
it.
Do
that
and
I
think
a
little
more
clarity
on
some
of
the
site
stuff
would
be
helpful.
I
D
The
the
turf
and
I
think
being
unclear
about
the
turf
seems
a
little
odd
to
me
also,
and
it
seems
like
if
I
can
encourage
a
commitment
where,
if,
if
there
is
kerf,
there's
our
turf
rather
there's
a
definite
need
for
it
and
a
and
a
purpose
and
a
reason
why
that
it
needs
to
be
turf
in
this
area
so,
for
instance,
around
the
pool
and
now
that
I
think
we
kind
of
did
maybe
part
of
that
presentation
backwards.
But
now
it
shed
some
light.
D
That
would
that
we
know
what
the
purpose
of
the
facility
is
for
and
how
it
really
gets
used.
So
I
can
see
some,
maybe
some
nodes
in
and
around
the
site
of
some
turf
that
some
cooling
areas
of
of
rest
and
things
like
that
I
think,
might
be
really
enjoyable
for
this
type
of
facility
and
and
the
clients
and
patients
here
and
staff,
and
so
but
I
think.
If
there's
not
a
need
for
it.
And
it's
not
this
note
of
activity
or
rest
or
a
cooling
area.
D
E
Agree
with
most
of
the
other
comments,
I
think
it
is
I
really
like
what
they're
doing
with
the
building
and
joining
the
two
and
making
them
more
consistent
across
the
two
is
a
really
positive
thing,
so
I
large
laud
that
I
agree
with
the
comments
that
we
do
need.
I
think
we
do
need
more
information
to
see
the
landscape
specifics.
The
lighting
plan
with
fixture
call
outs
as
well
and
I,
think
John's
comment
about
the
mechanical
units.
E
G
C
Very
handsome
project
and
I
agree
with
member
Walsh's
comments
about
taking
this
long
abandoned
site
and
doing
a
really
nice
improvement.
I
agree
with
the
other
comments,
the
comments
from
the
committee
members.
The
only
thing
I
would
caution,
and
my
experience
with
the
Curia
is
that
in
spring,
particularly,
it
draws
a
lot
of
bees,
and
so
I
would
be
very
cautious
about
where
you
place
it,
because
it's
amazing
how
many
bees
are
attracted
to
it.
Yeah.
A
Final
comment:
I
agree
with
member
Walsh's
comment
about
the
economics
of
a
project
like
this
and
don't
want
to
necessarily
say
that
I
was
thinking
that
the
lift
had
to
be
an
elevator,
but
if
it
could
be
enclosed
a
little
bit
more
graciously
with
the
architecture,
a
trellis
sort
of
thing
or
just
some
sort
of
detailing
around
it
to
make
it
feel
a
little
more
attached
and
the
final
thing
is
on
the
architecture.
I
think
the
arch
that
creates
the
opening
between
the
Crawford
and
the
Harlow
is
very
odd.
A
There's
no
other
arches
on
the
building.
I
think
to
have
a
portal
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
I
think
maybe
a
square
opening
with
the
lintel
or
some
corbels
or
something
might
architectural
II
and
great
just
keep
it
all
in
a
little
more
in
keeping
with
what
exists
there
now
I,
like
the
square
columns
versus
round
column,
so
that
sort
of
square
opening
concept
would
make
sense
there
to
me.
Also.
D
I
see
something
and
it's
kind
of
a
question
and
maybe
a
comment,
but
on
the
HS
PB
there
was
a
comment
about
the
windows
and
it
seemed
to
be
a
couple
comments
there
on
the
windows
and
doors
relating
to
kind
of
dumbing,
those
down
and
getting
rid
of
some
of
the
casework
around
those
windows.
But
then
can
I
see.
D
F
Are
the
original
color
renderings
the
most
of
the
comments
that
were
coming
on
the
HSP
B's
recommendations
on
simplifying,
rather
than
dumbing
down?
They
were
looking
to
not
let
this
building,
which
is
basically
a
simplified
Colonial
Revival,
building
stay
simplified
and
not
get
too
fussy
with
details
are
really
where
the
gist
of
their
comment
was.
Okay,.
D
F
Mats
just
one
quick
question
before
you
take
your
motion.
This
project
I
am
going
to
try
to
get
to
Planning
Commission
as
early
as
possible,
but
I
I'm
hearing
that
you
would
like
to
see
the
landscape
work
come
back,
and
is
the
committee
amenable
to
doing
a
subcommittee
that
we
can
review
those
landscape
revisions
with
so
that
we
don't
slow
them
down
for
another
visit
back
to
the
AAC
as
a
whole?
Or
can
you
condition
your
recommendation
today
around
that
kind
of
a
action
I
have.
A
G
J
B
A
A
A
D
D
G
A
D
D
Kent
wondering
about
the
parking-
and
so
that's
project
seems
grossly
under
parked,
owes
it
to
me
and
which
you
know:
okay
makes
some
sense.
It's
historical
building
on
that
seems
like
that's
a
real
challenge,
but
I'm
like
is
there
a
rule
for
that
I'm,
just
wondering
for
a
set
of
guidelines
that
you
try
to
follow.
F
F
You
don't
see
these
parking
lots
in
these
kinds
of
facilities
being
used
that
much
especially
if
it's
a
situation
like
this
one
where
they
don't
allow
the
patients
to
bring
their
cars
to
the
site,
so
I'm
not
worried
about
it
in
terms
of
its
impacts
to
the
neighborhood
there's
also
street
parking
in
the
area
as
well.
Okay
got.
A
J
G
F
B
Ramp
up
where
you
wouldn't
have
the
change
in
use
that
staff
would
look
at
it
and
determine
if
there's
adequate
parking
at
that
point
in
time
and
what
we
typically
do
with
the
facilities
such
as
this,
where
there
is
limited
parking
available,
is
have
the
property
owner,
look
at
some
type
of
a
shared
parking
agreement
where
that
may
be
appropriate
to
do
so.
So
there
are
options
if
there
is
a
change
in
use,
but
again,
as
mr.
F
F
E
One
question:
how
do
we
what's
the
process
for
getting
sort
of
follow
up
on
previously
discussed
projects?
So
I
guess
a
couple
questions.
One
is
so
we've
seen
several
things
that
we've
approved
or
or
comment
and
on
that
seemed
to
have
completely
died
and
I,
don't
know
whether
they
move
forward
or
not,
such
as
the
mall
on
chocolates
that
we
reviewed,
and
that
seems
to
be
completely
stalled
or
other
ones
like
the
the
Castaneda
is
the
Mexican
restaurant
that
I
believe
was
done.
B
Maintain
a
site
on
the
Planning
Department
web
page
with
a
list
of
projects
and
includes
both
projects
that
have
been
submitted
and
haven't
gone
to
a
border
commission,
yet
projects
that
have
been
approved
by
AAC
and
Planning
Commission
and
then
projects
which
are
in
the
permitting
stage.
So
that's
the
first
source
that
you
can
go
to
in
terms
of
questions
about
projects.
Secondly,
if
you
just
want
to
email
staff,
we
can
give
you
an
update
on
that.
B
B
Hacienda
property,
they
received
an
extension
of
time,
application
and
I
believe
that
they
need
to
get
their
permits
by
November.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
they
have
their
building
permits.
What
they
were
looking
at
doing
is
finalizing
the
actual
purchase
of
the
property.
There
is
a
rather
lengthy
process
because
it
is
owned
or
is
a
lot
a
property,
so
they
have
to
go
through
the
Bureau
of
Indian,
Affairs,
etc.
So
that's
what's
been,
delaying
it,
but
building
permit
application
and
everything
has
been
submitted,
reviewed
and
basically
approved.