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From YouTube: Airport Commission | Sep 21 2022
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Palm Springs International Airport Commission meeting, held September 21st, 2022
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Well,
thank
you,
Teresa
Gallivan
interim
city
manager,
pleasure
to
be
here
and
and
meet
you
all
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
through
this
transition.
We've
already
started
the
recruitment
for
the
new
city
manager,
so
that
process
is
underway.
But,
as
you
know,
these
things
take
some
time
so
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
through
this
transition
and
also
some
of
the
changes
that
are
coming
up
with
our
city
council
and
look
forward
to
joining
you
at
your
strategic
planning
session
next
week
as
well.
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I
put
together
a
PowerPoint,
mostly
just
so
that
I
can
kind
of
stay
on
track
with
the
with
the
presentation.
I
believe
Christina
also
has
some
handouts
that
she
has
provided
to
you
that
cover
things
like
the
ordinance
that
establishes
us
as
an
airport
commission
and
then
also
a
publication
from
my
law
firm
that
talks
about
talks
about
the
brown
act.
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So
just
a
little
bit
about
myself,
like
I,
said
I've
served
as
City
attorney
here
since
2019
I've
served
in
a
capacity
of
City
attorney
in
a
number
of
different
cities
over
the
years,
I
also
serve
as
City
attorney
in
the
city
of
San,
Juan
Capistrano
down
in
Orange
County,
and
then
I
also
represent
another
a
number
of
public
agencies,
including
a
Park
District,
a
fire
district
and
a
Municipal
Water
District.
So
public
law
is
basically
my
life.
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That's
what
I
do
so
the
brown
Act
is
something
that
is
near
and
dear
to
my
heart.
It's
something
that
I
work
with
a
lot
so
I'm
happy
to
to
be
here
and
talk
to
you
about
it
as
we
go
through
the
presentation.
I'd
really
encourage
you.
If
you
have
questions,
please
raise
them
during
the
presentation:
I,
don't
consider
it
an
interruption.
I
really
think
it's
a
lot
more
relevant.
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Believe
we're
ready,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
talk
today
about
two
things:
one
is
the
role
of
the
airport
commission
and
secondarily
the
brown
act
so
we'll
first
talk
about
the
role
of
the
airport
commission
and
then
we'll
get
on
to
the
brown
act
so
see.
If
we,
so
that's
a
picture
of
our
lovely
three
one.
Probably
right
is
that
three
one
Right
theory:
that's
the
big
one.
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So,
as
I
mentioned
Christina
provided
to
you
a
copy
of
our
ordinance,
our
ordinance
is
available
online.
Our
City's
entire
municipal
code
is
online.
If
you
go
to
the
city's
website,
you
can
find
the
entire
Municipal
Code,
which
also
deals
with
not
only
our
airport
commission,
but
also
of
the
all
of
the
other
commissions
and
various
laws
that
the
city
council
has
adopted
over
the
years.
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So
when
talking
about
the
Palm
Springs
International
Airport
commission
in
its
fundamental
roles,
it's
important
to
take
note
of
kind
of
the
introductory
clause
in
the
section
that
deals
with
probably
15
different
categories
of
things
that
the
commission
is
involved
in.
So
the
introductory
clause
of
our
of
our
roles
section
says:
the
International
Airport
commission
shall
be
advisory
to
the
Palm
Springs
City
Council
and
have
shall
have
the
duty
and
power
to
advise
the
city
council
on
the
following
matters.
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And
then
this
the
code
section
goes
on
to
list
about
15,
different
categories
of
of
subjects
that
the
commission
advises
the
city
council
on
and
so,
as
with
other
commissions,
most
commissions,
I
would
say,
probably
with
the
exception,
maybe
of
our
Planning
Commission.
The
airport
commission
is
advisory.
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We
give
advice
to
the
city
council
so
that
the
city
council
can
establish
policy
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
and
this
is
really
consistent,
like
I
said
not
only
with
other
commissions
within
Palm
Springs,
but
with
what
I
see
in
commissions
and
other
communities
that
I
serve,
you
know
San
Juan
Capistrano.
They
have
a
number
of
commissions
and
again,
maybe,
with
the
exception
of
the
Planning
Commission
there,
they
are
all
advisory
to
the
to
the
to
the
city.
Council
next
slide
Christina.
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So
the
next
three
slides
are
really
the
the
list
of
the
15
different
areas
of
subject
matters
that
the
airport
commission
helps.
The
city
council
make
decisions
on,
and
these
are
all
things
that
you
would
expect
the
city
council
as
the
as
the
ultimate
policy
making
body
of
the
city
to
to
to
work
on
in
terms
of
long-range
plans,
implementing
custom
facilities,
keeping
on
top
of
operational
programs,
setting
airport
improvements,
financing,
leasing,
Arrangements
adopting
programs
for
permits
and
proposals.
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So
I
found
this
this
article
from
The
Institute
for
local
government,
which
is
kind
of
a
a
sister
agency
of
the
California
League
of
cities.
They
kind
of
help
with
educational
and
lobbying
efforts
for
the
league
and
they
had
an
article
dealing
with
advisory
committees
and
it
kind
of
articulates
what
committees
and
commissions
do
in
city,
government
and
they're
really
meant
to
be
kind
of
the
eyes
and
ears
of
the
community.
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You
know
they're
meant
to
expand
the
ability
of
the
city
council
to
hear
different
perspectives,
kind
of
in
a
formal,
integrated
way
with
city
government,
so
they
provide
opportunities
for
additional
input
from
the
community
and
that's
exactly
what
you
all
do.
As
as
Commissioners
is
you,
you
either
live
or
work
or
are
educated
in
in
the
community,
and
so
you
hear
what
your
neighbors
are
saying.
You
hear
what
people
say
at
the
grocery
store
and
you
can
then
provide
that
input
in
a
in
a
formal
way.
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Again,
it's
all
advisory.
So
the
city
council
is
ultimately
the
the
policy
decision
maker,
but
you
help
effectuate
those
those
policy
decisions
and
they
also
provide
a
different
perspective
from
staff.
You
know,
staff
is,
is
here
to
provide
kind
of
a
a
professional
advice
to
to
the
city
council,
as
well
as
to
our
commissions,
but
oftentimes
City
staff
doesn't
necessarily
live
in
the
in
the
community.
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Health
type
staff
comes
from
other
areas
and
they're
hired,
not
because
they
are
local,
but
because
they,
you
know,
have
training
and
expertise
in
municipal
government
you
as
Commissioners,
you
usually
live
in
the
community.
Our
Council
has
expanded
that
to
allow
for
Commissioners
who
live
in
other
jurisdictions
in
the
airport,
Commission
in
particular,
is
expanded
even
beyond
that
into
the
entire
Coachella
Valley.
So
because
it's
an
international
airport.
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What
I
would
consider
about
governance
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
all
of
the
actors
within
a
municipal
organization
kind
of
stay
in
their
own
lane,
while
there
are
sometimes
some
legal
issues
that
can
arise
if,
if
commissions
or
other
actors,
don't
stay
in
their
Lanes,
it's
it's
really
more
about
good
governance
for
municipal
government,
as
opposed
to
to
legal
issues
and
liability.
So
I
wanted
to
provide
you
this
kind
of
third-party
analysis
of
what
commissions
do.
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So
we
you
know
you're
drummed
in
as
a
staff
member
about
the
Brown
act
and
the
public
records
act
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
the
first
thing
is
that
I
wanted
to
double
check
with
you
was
that,
even
though
we're
quote
advisory
in
the
presentation
and
stuff
under
state
law
or
a
legislative
body,
is
that
your
understanding
as
well
absolutely.
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And
we'll
get
to
that
when
we,
when
we
cover
the
brown
act
but
you're,
absolutely
right
under
the
brown
act
and
that's
state
law
is
separate
in
part
from
whatever
our
Municipal
good
says.
We
as
a
commission
are
a
legislative
body
under
the
brown
act
and
and
we
need
to
comply
with
the
brown
act.
Absolutely
okay,.
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Correct
in
in
terms
of
ultimate
decision
making
Authority,
if
that's
what
you
mean
by
legislative,
you
do
play
a
role
in
assisting
the
legislative
process
in
terms
of
providing
advice
to
the
city
council
who
who
ultimately
might
adopt
legislation
or
other
programs,
but
but
right.
The
the
airport
commission
kind
of
like
many
of
our
other
commissions.
They
make
recommendations
to
the
city
council.
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So,
for
example,
say
someone
comes
up
and
says
you
know:
I
want
to
have
a
I,
don't
know.
I
I
want
to
have
all
the
paint,
the
all
the
the
the
buildings
on
the
airport
to
be
painted:
pink,
okay,
not
to
disparage
anyone
who
loves
pink,
but
so,
however,
really
there's
nothing
in
writing.
Nothing
in
an
ordinance,
nothing
in
a
resolution
that
says
that
that
will
first
come
to
the
commission
before
the
council
can
act
on
it.
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I'm,
looking
at
the
I'm
looking
at
the
categories,
I
I
will
say
this.
You
know
we
could
probably
fit
that
issue
into
one
of
the
15
categories
that
the
commission
is
charged
with
making
recommendations
to
the
city
council.
On
that
said,
the
city
council
is
the
one
who
created
the
airport
commission
just
like
they
created
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
Arts
commission,
and
so
there
is
this
Theory
under
the
law
with
legislative
bodies.
C
It
it
all
the
way
from
the
state
legislature,
down
to
City
councils,
they
kind
of
what
the
legislative
body
giveth
they
can
take
away
and
so
oftentimes
you
will
see
legislative
bodies,
even
though
they
have
commissions
they
might
take
up
a
matter
without
necessarily
referring
it
to
the
commission
and
sometimes
it
causes.
You
know
consternation
on
the
part
of
the
commission,
because
the
commission
says
gee.
Why
am
I
here?
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So,
along
with
the
issue
of
kind
of
roles
a
lot
of
times,
the
question
is:
how
do
items
get
on
your
agenda
and
the
answer
is
generally,
the
agenda
is
put
together
by
City
staff.
You
know
the
city
manager's
office
oftentimes
in
in
this
case,
with
a
lot
of
input
from
the
particular
Department
in
this
case
airport,
and
we
put
that
on
the
agenda
based
on
Direction
and
the
policies
that
are
established
by
the
city
council.
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That
way,
you
don't
end
up
with
maybe
one
or
two
members
of
the
body
constantly
asking
for
things
to
be
put
on
the
agenda,
where
you
don't
have
even
a
majority
of
the
legislative
body,
who's
interested
in
talking
about
or
considering
a
particular
matter,
and
so
at
least
at
the
city
council
level.
We
have
a
process
where,
at
the
end
of
each
meeting,
the
council
can
ask
whether
their
colleagues
want
a
particular
matter
to
be
brought
back
to
to
a
future
agenda
item.
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One
of
the
one
of
the
projects
that
that
Justin
Clifton
started
before
he
left
was
trying
to
create
some
consistency
among
our
different
Commissions
in
terms
of
the
bylaws
and
procedures
like
that,
and
so
I
think
that
that
process
is
likely
to
continue
going
forward
and
we'll
see
some
consistency
so
that
each
of
the
commissions
will
have
have
that
type
of
thing.
Kind
of
memorialized
in
in
a
type
of
policy.
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Yeah
for
the
up
updating
a
handbook,
I
think
we
are
still
quite
a
ways
away.
We
just
hired
our
new
city
clerk,
so
we've
been
Staffing
up
and
a
new
Deputy
city
clerk.
So
you
know
we've
had
some
transition
in
that
department,
so
that
is
a
renewed
effort
and
I
don't
have
an
exact
timeline,
but
it
is
a
priority
that
we
provide.
That
kind
of
information
and
again,
like
a
City
attorney
Ballinger,
said
we're
trying
to
align
and
make
sure
that
we,
our
commissions,
are
aligned
with
our
Council
priorities
and
I.
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You
know,
honestly,
there
hasn't
been
any
communication,
so
this
is
kind
of
the
first
communication
that
I've
been
aware
of
and
I've
been
on
the
commission
for
a
year.
So
I
guess
my
request
would
be
to
the
commission,
through
chairman
data
and
vice
chair
Cochran.
You
would
let
us
know,
what's
being
considered
and
give
us
the
opportunity
to
tweak
or
change
or
add
things
as
appropriate
understanding
your
desire
to
have
some
consistency
across
all
commissions.
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And
I
think
you
know:
we've
looked
at
what
other
community
other
cities
have
done
and
they're
not
really
unusual
things
that
are
in
these
types
of
of
guide
books
or
documents
for
the
commissions
and
and
trying
to
have
consistency
between
all
of
the
commissions
about.
You
know.
They
range
from
the
basics
of
attendance
to
how
to
get
an
item
on
the
agenda
to
to
what
are
the
priorities
of
the
group,
so
I
mean
there's
some
some
basic
things
that
are
pretty
standard.
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G
That's
not
at
all,
because
you
know
the
Arts
commission
is
as
important
a
feature
to
residents
of
Palm
Springs
as
the
airport,
maybe,
but
it
is
a
much
different
animal
and
it's
an
Enterprise
fund
is
really
how
I
look
at
it,
and
none
of
the
other
commissions
are
responsible
for
Enterprise
funds,
and
so
that's
why
I
think
we're
a
little
different
as
a
commission.
And
hopefully
everyone
will
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
move
forward
with
this
process.
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All
right
next
slide
so
that
that
pretty
much
covers
the
issue
of
roles
of
the
airport
commission.
Next
we
can
talk
about
the
brown
Act,
so
a
couple
of
key
terms
to
remember
in
terms
of
the
brown
act,
the
brown
act
applies
to
local
public
agencies.
There's
a
separate
open
meeting
law
for
state
agencies.
The
brown
Act
is
the
one
that
applies
to
us.
It
only
applies
to
legislative
bodies
as
Scott
mentioned
earlier.
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What's
going
to
be
discussed
and
acted
on
at
those
meetings,
so
that
members
of
the
public
can
decide
whether
they
want
to
attend
and
participate
in
the
meeting
or
stay
at
home
and
watch
the
favorite
television
show
tonight
next
slide
so
the
first
term
local
agency.
It
includes
a
county,
a
city,
whether
General
law
or
chartered
we're
a
charter
City
or
or
any
board,
commission
or
agency
thereof.
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So
the
the
brown
act
used
to
say
that
a
meeting
was
any
Congregation
of
a
majority
of
the
commission
where
they
take
action
on
something
and
and
so
what
ended
up
happening
was.
Unfortunately,
some
legislative
bodies
were
holding
meetings
where
they
talked
about
something,
but
they
didn't
actually
vote
on
it.
C
The
legislative
body
members
were
not
necessarily
being
asked
to
talk
or
provide
input,
but
they
were
just
literally
going
to
listen
to
the
public
and
and
hear
input,
and
it's
my
opinion
that,
because
of
the
definition
here
that
that
would
be
a
meeting
of
that
legislative
body.
Even
if
none
of
them
say
anything
even
if
none
of
them
deliberate
and
talk
amongst
themselves,
they
are
hearing
the
same
thing
at
the
same
time
and
it's
within
their
subject
matter
jurisdiction.
C
C
C
It
may
look
funny
to
a
member
of
the
public
who
sees
you
you
know
sitting
together
and
talking
if
they
don't
hear
what
you're
talking
about,
and
so
you
should
be
aware
of
kind
of
the
public
perception
of
having
the
majority
of
your
commission
together
talking
about
something,
even
if
it's
not
within
your
your
commission's
jurisdiction
but
technically
under
the
brown
act.
If
it's
not
within
your
the
subject
matter
jurisdiction,
then
it's
not
a
meeting
under
the
brown
act.
C
H
B
H
C
That
is
a
good
question.
I,
don't
think,
there's
been
any
court
case
or
attorney
general
opinion
that
has
weighed
in
on
that
I
could
like
most
lawyers,
I
could
see
arguments
on
both
sides.
I
honestly,
could
you
know
if,
if
we
don't
have
those
two
seats
filled,
I
could
see
a
pretty
good
argument
that
nine
members
is
a
majority
and
the
reason
is
because
nine
members
can
effectuate
a
change
on
the
commission.
You
know
as
long
as
those
two
seats
are
vacant.
You
know
at
the
next
meeting.
C
C
H
C
Wouldn't
trigger
the
brown
act
but
we'll
as
we'll
get
to
later.
There
are
situations
where
you
know
you
don't
know,
necessarily
what
your
other
Commissioners
are
doing.
You
know,
after
you
leave
that
meeting,
and
so
they
you
know
they
could
inadvertently,
go
and
talk
to
somebody
without
your
knowledge
and
and
start
sharing
information,
and
it
could
turn
into
a
Serial
meeting
and
it
that
would
defeat
the
purpose.
C
G
G
C
I
believe
our
con,
our
ordinance
says
that
somebody
serves
until
their
successor
is
appointed,
and
so
they
would
basically
be
serving
as
kind
of
a
holdover.
Commissioner,
and
you
know
whether,
whether
we
want
to
say
it's
being
ignored
or
that's,
that's
really
how
the
ordinance
addresses
a
commissioner's
term.
I
think
for
transparency
purposes
created
as
as
toward
counting
that
number.
C
C
C
G
C
Think
from
a
transparency
perspective,
I
would
I
would
count
anybody
who
would
be
able
to.
You
know,
vote
at
the
next
meeting
if,
if,
if,
if
a
meeting
were
called
tomorrow,
whoever
can
vote
at
the
next
meeting
that
that's
who
we
should
be
counting,
that's
what
the
brown
Act
is
concerned
about
is
how
our,
how
are
government
decisions
being
made,
and
so
that's
how
I
would
interpret.
H
H
D
G
G
C
Know
you
can
do
this
on
PowerPoint,
but
I
didn't
know
that
I
did
that
I
should
have
made
some
swooshing
sounds
or
something
so
legislative
means
either
the
governing
body
of
a
local
agency.
So
our
city
council,
or
a
commission
committee
before
third
body,
whether
permanent
or
temporary
decision
making
word
advisory
that
was
created
by
Charter
ordinance
resolution
or
other
formal
action
of
a
legislative
body.
C
So
Christina
can
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
so
they're
under
oops.
Can
we
go
back
there?
We
go
so
under
the
under
the
brown
act.
We
treat
standing
committees
differently
than
we
treat
what
are
sometimes
called
ad-hoc
committees.
So
standing
committee
is
something
that
has
it's
a
committee
less
than
a
majority
of
the
of
the
of
the
commission
that
has
continuing
subject
matter
jurisdiction.
C
So,
for
instance,
we
have
a
standing
noise
subcommittee,
that's
established
under
our
enabling
ordinance.
They
they
act,
or
at
least
they
have
the
ability
to
act
on
an
ongoing
basis.
They're
not
created
for
a
specific
issue
for
a
specific
time
period,
which
is
kind
of
the
definition
of
ad
hoc
which
we'll
see
next
standing
committee
basically
exists.
You
know
permanently.
The
city
council
has
established
a
finance
subcommittee,
which
is
really
their
one
standing
committee.
C
At
this
point,
a
standing
committee
under
the
brown
Act
is
subject
to
the
brown
Act,
and
so,
even
if
it's
less
than
the
majority
of
the
of
the
commission,
if
that
subcommittee
has
a
continued
subject
matter
jurisdiction,
they
need
to
be
treated
as
as
a
legislative
body.
That
means
they've
got
to
notice
their
meetings.
They
need
to
have
open
meetings.
They
need
to
allow
for
public
comment
all
the
things
that
we,
as
a
commission
or
our
city
council,
do
for
their
meetings.
C
If
it
only
consists
of
members
of
the
legislative
body
here,
the
commission
members
and
it
exists
for
a
short
time
period
of
defined
time
period
to
to
accomplish
a
specific
task.
So
sometimes
you
know,
maybe
our
city
council
will
establish
a
subcommittee
to
work
on
a
particular
ordinance
vacation
rental
ordinance
they'll
establish
an
ad
hoc
subcommittee
to
work
on
that
particular
item.
Sometimes
the
Planning
Commission
will
establish
a
ad
hoc
committee
to
review
a
specific
project
and
provide
feedback
to
that
specific
development
project.
C
So,
theoretically,
the
airport
commission
might
create
an
ad
hoc
committee
to
work
on
a
specific
defined
project
with
kind
of
a
defined
time
period
and
then
report
back
to
the
commission
but
again
to
meet
all
of
those.
Those
elements
it
needs
to
be
advisory
only
has
to
be
a
less
than
a
majority
of
the
commission.
C
A
very
good
question:
the
brown
act
does
not
does
not
define
what
that
time
period
is.
I,
usually
use
one
year
as
kind
of
a
rule
of
thumb
and
I've
heard.
Other
cities
use
that
time
period
as
well,
but
theoretically
it
could
be,
it
could
be
longer.
You
know
if
you've
got
if
you've
got
kind
of
a
big
issue,
but
you
want
to
be
able
to
to
chew
on
it
for
a
while
it
might
be
longer
than
one
year
but
I
I.
Think
one
year
is
probably
a
good
rule
of
thumb.
Great.
H
D
H
G
G
We
there's
no
really
standing
commit
committee,
except
for
the
noise,
the
noise
committee,
which
is
part
of
a
separate
completely.
You
know
it's
not
not
only
required
Maybe
by
our
ordinances,
but
it's
required
by
the
FAA.
So
you
know,
but
our
commissions
are
advisory
only
because
we
are
an
advisory
body,
the,
but
the
the
subcommittees
are
even
more
advisory
because
they
can't
do
any.
They
don't
do
anything
without
the
commission.
G
You
know
meeting
you
know,
they're
less
than
a
majority
of
the
commission,
so
I
think
the
largest
one
has
seven
members.
I
might
be
wrong
about
that.
But
I
think
chairman
data,
you
know
there's
what
the
largest
one
is.
Seven
members,
if
I
remember
correctly,
they're
only
commission
members,
you
know,
as
part
of
those
you
know-
exist
for
a
short
period
of
time.
Well,
you
know
they
meet
on
an
ad
hoc
basis,
so
there's
no
set
times
and
places
every
month.
G
Well,
you
know
that's
the
kind
of
the
confusing
thing
because
I
don't
know
how
necessarily
that
plays
into
the
commissions,
because
they
are
broken
down
under
specific
subject
matters,
but
there's
no
specific
tasks
for
them
per
se
and
the
only
one
that
really
you
could
say
is
that
every
budget
you
know
the
finance
and
budget
committee
meets
to
go
over
the
budget
with
staff
and
then,
but
that
goes
to
the
full
commission
for
any
sort
of
action
or
recommendation
to
the
council.
So
what
would
that
be?
C
Well,
I
think
it's
important
to
to
recognize
that
just
because
you
know
every
year,
maybe
if
we
get
new,
Commissioners
and
folks
might
rotate
on
and
off
of
the
committee,
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
committee
has
ended.
The
committee
is
still
there.
The
committee
is
like
a
vehicle
that
people
get
in
and
out
of
the
committee's
still
there
and
if
it
has
continuing
subject
matter,
jurisdiction
like
Finance,
to
look
at
something,
even
if
it's
only
once
a
year
like
the
budget,
then
I
think
that
would
be
a
standing
committee
and.
C
B
C
So
so
you
know
the
the
commission
may
appoint
a
a
committee
of
five
Commissioners
to
work
on
branding
and
you
say
we're
going
to
work
on
The
Branding
branding
issue.
That's
going
to
be
your
your
project.
You
know,
we
know
the
branding
issue
is
going
to
be.
You
know,
whatever
eight
months
long
to
come
up
with
a
recommended
branding
program
that
we're
gonna.
The
committee
is
going
to
recommend
to
the
commission
and
then
it's
gonna
and
then
that
committee
is
going
to
dissolve.
C
H
C
Yeah
John,
I
I,
would
say
anytime.
You
have
a
majority
of
the
Commissioners
who
are
are
getting
together
to
talk
about
or
listen
to
something.
That's
within
your
subject
matter
jurisdiction.
Unless
it
falls
within
the
the
definition
of
a
closed
session,
then
it
needs
to
it
needs
to
be
public
and,
as
we'll
talk
about
later
under
the
closed
session
topics,
even
even
if
it
qualifies
for
a
closed
session
that
still
needs
to
be
listed
on
the
agenda
so
that
the
public
knows
hey.
C
H
C
You
see
in
the
next
slide,
please
so
again,
once
we've
decided
or
we've
discovered,
that
we've
got
a
majority
of
the
legislative
body
that
is
congregating
to
hear,
discuss
or
deliberate
or
take
action
on
on
something
within
our
subject
matter
jurisdiction.
What
does
that
mean?
It
means
we
need
to
post
an
agenda
and
we
need
to
stick
to
that
agenda
and
again
this.
C
This
goes
to
the
concept
of
allowing
members
of
the
public
to
know
whether
they
want
to
go
and
participate
in
the
meeting
and
hear
hear
what's
going
on
or
provide
public
comment
provide
written
comment
whatever.
That
is,
the
public
gets
that
opportunity
to
know
what's
going
to
be
discussed
at
the
meeting
and
the
sick
to
the
part
means
if
we
say
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
a
you
know,
a
branding
branding
program,
then
we
can't
start
talking
about.
C
C
The
notice
needs
to
be
posted
at
least
72
hours
in
advance
of
regular
meetings
and
20
at
least
24
hours
in
advance
of
special
meetings.
So
a
regular
meeting
is
basically
those
meetings
that
the
commission
has
assist
are
going
to
be
our
our
you
know
our
regular
meetings.
You
know
once
a
month,
some
some
legislative
bodies
have
two
meetings
a
month,
whatever
it
is,
the
ones
that
are
established
ahead
of
time.
Those
are
your
regular
meetings.
Occasionally
something
will
come
up
and
and
a
legislative
body
needs
to
hold
a
special
meeting.
C
The
law
allows
for
Less
notice,
only
24
hours
notice
for
special
meetings.
There
are
also
other
types
of
meetings
in
terms
of
meetings
for
emergencies
and
dire
emergencies.
Those
were
added
after
9
11
that
provide
for
or
that
require
even
less
than
24
hours
notice,
but
you
still
need
to
try
and
provide
notice
to
the
to
the
Press
of
those
emergency
meetings.
C
The
other
element
of
an
open
meeting
of
a
legislative
body
is
the
Public's
right
to
comment.
So
under
the
brown
act,
the
public
has
afforded
two
different
types
of
right
to
comment.
The
first
is
the
right
to
comment
on
those
things
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda
and
then
the
second
category
is
a
right
to
comment
on
things
that
are
not
listed
on
the
agenda,
but
that
are
still
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
legislative
body.
C
So
the
the
mayor
in
each
each
legislative
body
has
a
different
order
of
where
that
general
public
comment
goes.
Some
legislative
bodies
will
have
it
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
Some
will
have
it
at
the
end.
Some
will
have
it
at
the
middle.
The
the
the
brown
act
doesn't
really
identify
when
that
general
public
comment
item
needs
to
go.
It
does
say
that
for
agenda's
items
the
public
has
their
right
to
comment
either
before
or
during
the
legislative
body's
consideration
of
that
particular
agenda
item.
C
So
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
if
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
who
want
to
comment
on
a
particular
agenda
item
that
that
they'd
be
afforded
the
opportunity
to
to
comment
on
that
agenda
item,
some
some
Mayors
and
chairs
will
ask
you
know
before
the
before
the
legislative
body
actually
makes
a
decision
or
take
takes
a
motion
on
a
particular
agenda's
item.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
like
to
weigh
in
on
this?
That's
probably
a
best
best
practice?
C
C
In
my
opinion,
I
think
that
you
know
members
of
the
public
kind
of
have
some
obligation
to
raise
their
hand
or
speak
up
if
they
want
us
if
they
want
to
provide
comment
on
an
agendized
item,
but
it
probably
is
best
practice
just
to
confirm,
especially
in
today's
age,
where
you
have
some
many
meetings
being
conducted
by
zoom
and
it's
sometimes
a
little
bit
harder
to
to
see
if
anybody
is
raising
their
hand
or
wants
to
speak.
So
that's
just
kind
of
a
best
practice.
H
What
kind
of
rules
govern
dialogue
so
a
member
of
the
public
says
I
have
a
comment
on
XYZ
and
then
what
rules
apply
to?
Let's
have
a
dialogue?
Did
you
know
that
wasn't
true,
or
did
you
know
there
was
extenuating
circumstance
or
that's
interesting?
Can
you
tell
me
more
Etc,
so
what's
opportunity
for
dialogue?
Is
there
that's.
C
A
really
good
question
a
lot
of
times,
there's
a
there's,
a
misperception
that
the
brown
Act
deals
with
those
issues
of
kind
of
you
know,
or
the
order
of
taking
up,
emotion
and
and
and
for
debate
and
whatnot.
That's
really
governed
by
either
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
or
an
alternative
is
rosenberg's
Rules
of
Order.
Those
are
really
more
parliamentarian
guides
than
the
brown
act.
The
brown
Act
is
really
more
concerned
with
public
The
public's
access
to
to
their
to
their
meetings
of
their
governing
or
their
legislative
bodies.
C
C
You
mean
in
terms
of
public
comments,
oh
for
public
comments,
so
that
actually
is
a
matter
of
under
the
brown
act.
So
while
the
public
has
the
right
to
comment
on
something-
and
this
usually
comes
up
during
the
general
public
comment
portion,
so
not
on
an
agenda's
item
but
under
the
general
public
comment,
somebody
comes
up
and
they
want
to
talk
about.
You
know
I
think
the
airport
needs
to
scale
back
operations
because
it's
making
too
much
noise.
C
If
that's
not
on
the
agenda,
then
the
brown
act
actually
prohibits
the
the
commission
from
engaging
in
a
discussion
about
that
item,
and
the
reason
is
because
it's
not
on
the
it's
not
on
the
on
the
agenda,
and
you
know
there
may
be
a
hundred
people
back
at
home
who
don't
know
that
there's
going
to
be
discussion
about
airport
airport
noise,
and
so
they
don't
have
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
that,
and
so
usually
a
best
practice
is
to
is
to
let
the
let
the
commenter
know.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
comment.
C
Those
types
of
things
that
way
the
the
member
of
the
public
knows
that
they've
been
heard,
and
they
don't
think
that
they're
being
ignored,
but
you're
also
complying
with
the
brown
act
by
not
engaging
in
a
discussion.
The
brown
act
does
allow
for
what
are
called
brief
comments
or
responses,
and
so
you
know
maybe
one
or
two
of
the
commissioner
members
might
say
you
know.
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
what
I
think
or
this
is
what
I
think
that's
loud
under
the
brown
act.
C
It's
on
the
agenda.
Yes,
you
could
again
I'm
talking
about
the
general
public
comment
portion
where
somebody
brings
up
something
that
is
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
your
commission,
but
it's
not
actually
on
the
agenda
but
you're,
absolutely
right.
If
it's.
If
it's
during
the
public
comment
portion
on
an
agenda's
item
yeah
the
majority
of
the
commission
can
can
talk
about
it.
Thank
you,
good
good
question.
I'll
tell
next
slide.
C
So
there
are
different
types
of
meetings.
Obviously
kind
of
the
quintessential
meeting
is
where
a
majority
of
the
commission
comes
and
sits
down
and
and
sits
at
a
table
or
a
dies
and
starts
talking
about
something
or
in
today's
world.
We
We
join
a
zoom
caller
a
teams
meeting,
but
even
before,
even
before
zoom
in
teams
meeting,
there
were
issues
of
either
serial
Communications
or
Hub
and
spoke
Communications.
C
So
the
brown
act
recognizes
that,
even
aside
from
maybe
a
physical
sit-down
meeting
in
the
in
the
traditional
sense,
there
can
be
an
A
A
de
facto
meeting
that
occurs
outside
of
that
context,
through
the
use
of
either
occasions
by
by
commissioners,
intermediaries
of
Commissioners
or
through
the
use
of
technology,
and
if,
if,
if
those
things
are
used
to
try
to
develop
a
collective
concurrence,
the
Brown
X
says
that
that's
a
meeting
and
if
it's
not
properly
noticed,
then
it
violates
the
brown
act.
So
direct
communication.
C
If
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
actually
I
think
it's
overall
I'll
I'll
give
some
examples
of
direct
communication.
So
direct
communication
is
one
commissioner
talking
to
a
second
commissioner
and
then
that
second,
commissioner,
talking
to
a
third
commissioner
and
sharing
the
information
of
the
from
the
first
commissioner
and
then
so
on,
and
so
on.
You
know
with
a
with
a
commission
as
large
as
ours.
C
It
might
be
harder
to
create
a
meeting
of
a
majority
of
our
commission,
but
on
a
five-member
board
that
can
pretty
easily
occur
with
just
three
three
legislative
bodies.
So
that's
kind
of
a
direct
communication.
Did
you
go
back
Christina
one
side,
please,
the
other.
The
other
way
is
through
intermediaries.
So
if
you
have
one
person
so
maybe
an
applicant,
could
you
go
back
two
slides
there.
You
go
intermediary.
C
And
if
it's
replied
to
all
and
you're
talking
about
the
substance
of
a
potential
decision,
then
that
looks
like
a
meeting
because
you're,
if
you're,
effectively
coming
to
a
decision
or
trying
to
come
to
a
decision
outside
of
a
publicly
notice
process.
And
so
the
brown
act
and
even
attorney
general
opinions
have
concluded
that
that
use
of
technology
is
a
meeting
under
the
brown
act
and
it
really
violates
the
Public's
right
to
participate
in
in
the
decision-making
process.
So
be
careful
about
technology.
So
I
think
that
goes
to
the
next
slide.
Then.
C
So
when
using
emails
or
even
texts,
don't
reply
to
all
you
know
in
terms
of
the
substance,
courts
have
said
that
communication
to
a
majority
of
a
legislative
body
is
okay,
so
sending
an
email
to
the
entire
commission,
saying
hey
I'm,
not
going
to
be
able
to
make
the
next
meeting
or
hey
here's
some
information
that
I
received
about
a
particular
agenda
item.
That's
coming
up
just
sending
that
to
a
majority
of
the
commission
doesn't
violate
the
brown
Act.
What
does
violate
the
brown
Act?
C
Is
then,
if
you,
if
you
just
CC
all
of
those
Commissioners
and
then
somebody
starts
weighing
in
on
the
substance
of
whatever
was
attached
or
whatever
this,
the
the
agenda
item
is.
That
starts
looking
like
a
brown
act,
violation
because
again
you're
starting
to
make
a
decision
outside
of
the
outside
of
the
view
of
the
public.
C
So
a
lot
of
times
when
I'm
sending
what
I
want
to
be
a
one-way
communication
to
a
majority
of
of
my
legislative
bodies,
whether
it's
Council
or
commission,
I'll
be
CCC
them
that
way,
they
can't
reply
to
all.
It
truly
is
a
one-way
communication
and
their
their
electronically,
incapable
of
replying
to
all
and
starting
a
discussion
about
it.
G
So
Jeff
just
to
clarify,
so
it's
not
against
the
brown
act
for
Commissioners
to
have
each
other's
email
addresses
nope,
and
it's
not
against
the
brown
act,
then
for
us
to.
If
we
have
information
from
somebody
for
something
that
we
send
a
one-way
communication
to
the
rest
of
the
Commissioners.
Regarding
that
item.
C
Correct,
it's
not
a
violation,
I
would
say
it's
a
best
practice
to
BCC
them
and
it's
a
best
practice
not
to
take
a
position
or
make
a
commitment
on
the
substance
of
that.
So
if
you
received
some
material
on
something
that
you
think
the
commission
might
consider
relevant
For
an
upcoming
agenda
item,
you
can
send
it
to
them.
I
would
recommend
you
BCC
them
and
you
just
say:
FYI
or
you
say:
here's
something
for
agenda
item
three
that
I
received.
C
C
Correct
it's
a
it's
okay
to
send
you
know,
and
even
if
it's
not
related
to
an
upcoming
agenda
item,
if
it's
within
the
subject
matter
jurisdiction
of
the
commission,
even
if
we
don't
have
a
you
know,
even
if
we
don't
plan
on
bringing
something
forward
that
it
relates
to
in
the
near
future,
it
triggers
these
kind
of
best
practices,
because
you
know
a
majority
of
the
commission
may
get
that
and
say
hey.
We
want
this
put
on
the
next
agenda.
C
C
What
becomes
a
problem
is
when
that
person
X
starts
saying
to
maybe,
commissioner,
a
here's.
What
commissioner
B
thinks
in
trying
to
influence
the
decision
based
on
sharing
of
that
information
from
commissioner
b
or
commissioner
C?
That's
when
it
starts
looking
like
a
collective
concurrences
being
developed
and
that's
when
the
brown
act
says
that
can't
occur
outside
of
a
notice
public
meeting
next
slide.
C
This
is
just
a
another
variation
of
the
Hub
and
spoke
next
slide.
So
it
was
mentioned
closed
sessions,
so
the
Brown
X
General
premises.
Local
agency
decisions
need
to
be
made
in
public.
The
brown
act
does
recognize
that
there
are
sometimes
institutional
or
maybe
privacy
interests
that
are
at
stake
at
in
decisions,
in
which
case
the
legislative
body
it
would
be
appropriate
for
them
to
meet
and
discuss,
and
sometimes
even
take
action
in
closed
session
outside
of
the
view
of
of
the
public.
C
The
the
three
primary
ones
are
significant
exposure
to
litigation,
initiation
of
litigation
and
real
property
negotiations,
they're
actually
probably
another
dozen
or
two
dozen
other
ones,
but
these
are
the
primary
ones,
and
the
idea
here
with
the
first
two
are
for
the
legislative
body
to
be
able
to
have
candid
conversations
with
their
legal
counsel
and
and
not
enable
the
adversary.
The
other
side
in
that
litigation
or
potential
litigation,
not
allow
that
other
side
to
hear
the
candid
confidential
and
privileged
Communications
that
occur
between
a
lawyer
and
their
client.
C
If
those
conversations
were
occurring
in
Open
Session
either,
the
lawyer
would
have
to
not
be
candid,
because
sometimes
lawyers
have
to
bear
bad
news
or
if
they
were
candid,
the
other
side
would
have.
You
know
a
transcript
of
that
meeting
as
exhibit
a
to
their
to
their
lawsuit.
So
the
the
brown
act
recognizes
that
in
those
situations,
it's
appropriate
for
the
the
legislative
body
to
be
able
to
go
into
closed
session.
C
Have
those
candid
conversations
with
their
lawyer
give
advice
to
their
lawyer
about
either
potential
litigation
or
existing
litigation,
and
so
those
are
two
two
exceptions.
Another
one
is
real
property
negotiations
again
this
this
same
idea,
legislative
body,
maybe
wants
to
buy
some
property
or
sell
some
property
or
lease
some
property
and
needs
to
give
direction
to
their
negotiator
as
to
maybe
what
the
highest
amount
they
would
be
willing
to
pay
for
to
buy
a
property.
The
lowest
amount
they'd
be
willing
to
sell
the
property,
and
it
wouldn't
be
fair
to
the
agency.
C
You
know,
there's
labor
negotiations
there's
you
know,
license
revocations
employment
matters
or
sometimes
heard
in
closed
session
based
on
privacy
interests,
but
those
are
the
the
three
primary
ones
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
even
though
their
the
legislative
body
is
able
to
hold
these
meetings
in
closed
session,
you
still
need
to
list
on
the
agenda
that
we're
going
into
closed
session.
You
know
either
for
significant
exposure
to
litigation
or,
if
there's
existing
litigation.
You
have
to
reference
the
case
then
case
name.
C
If
you're
negotiating
real
property,
you
have
to
list
what
the
property
is
and
who
the
parties
are,
who
you're
negotiating
with
again.
So
the
public
has
some
ability
to
weigh
in
on
that
particular
matter,
and
so
close
sessions,
I
would
say,
you
know,
are
primarily
held
by
a
city
council.
I
have
seen
some
commissions
hold
closed
sessions,
for
instance,
planning
commissions
sometimes
have
a
really
controversial
development
project
that
is
before
them
and
they
they
they're
getting
threatened
by
maybe
both
sides
with
a
lawsuit.
C
Sometimes
it's
appropriate
to
go
into
closed
session
to
discuss
that
significant
exposure
to
litigation
that
the
city
might
face
if
the
Planning
Commission
makes
one
decision
or
another,
you
know.
Usually
you
don't
see
commits
discussing
initiation
of
litigation
because
commissions
usually
are
not
the
ones
who
initiate
litigation,
that's
usually
initiated
by
the
city
council.
Similarly,
usually
commissions
aren't
discussing
real
property
negotiations.
I
guess
is
conceived,
they
might
be,
but
it
it's
very
rare.
H
C
The
process
would
be
to
obviously
talk
to
to
Harry
Christina
myself
and
find
out
a
what
you
know.
Kind
of
what's
of
the
discussion
is
and
I'm
not
saying
have
that
discussion
here,
but
but
identify
what
the
purpose
of
the
discussion
is
and
see
whether
it
falls
within
a
closed
session,
keeping
in
mind
kind
of
what
the
scope
of
the
commission's
roles
and
responsibilities
are.
G
C
C
D
Certainly
in
the
process
of
Master
planning,
you
may
identify
things
like
property,
not
necessarily
specific
Parcels,
but
the
need
for
expansion,
and
things
like
that.
That
would
come
out
and
that's
one
way
to
advise
the
city
council
of
you
know
the
the
the
plans
that
you
all
think
that
they
should
be
taking
and
give
them
recommendations.
That's
a
little
different
than
what
you
were
specifically
asking,
but
it
is
an
Avenue
to
to
to
use
to
bring
those
things
to
council's
attention
through
Master
planning
when
it
comes
to
property.
H
C
I
would
say,
talk
to
talk
to
Harry
talk
to
me.
Let's
include
Christina,
and
have
that
conversation
in
terms
of
what
the
purpose
of
the
dis
of
the
discussion
is
see
if
it
fits
in
there
again
under
both
the
brown
act
as
well
as
kind
of
our
roles
and
commissions,
and
we
can
have
a,
we
can
have
an
offline
discussion
about
that.
With
a
couple
of
you.
G
G
C
I
will
say
you
know
with
regard
to
well.
Your
first
question
in
terms
of
the
process:
I
agree
that
one
or
two
of
you,
or
even
three
of
you,
don't
represent
the
entire
commission,
but
if
we
determined
that
it's
not
you
know
appropriate
or
warranted
under
the
brown
act
or
the
roles,
then
we
could
at
least
have
that
discussion
with
you
know
three
or
four
of
us
and
and
answer
that
question.
If
it
is
appropriate,
then
I
think
it
would
be
fair
to
bring
back
to
the
commission.
Hey.
C
Do
you
want
to
have
a
discussion
about
you
know
some
significant
exposure
to
litigation
or
initiation
of
litigation
and
the
brown
act
allows
for
a
discussion.
Interestingly,
a
closed
session
discussion
discussion
to
discuss
whether
those
two
categories
apply.
So
there
is
a
vehicle
but
I
think
you
kind
of
start
with
a
small
group
before
you.
You
know
bring
it
to
the
entire
Commission.
C
Think
most
Municipal
attorneys
agree
that
the
employee,
the
employee,
closed
sessions,
don't
allow
for
those
City
Council
Members
to
weigh
in
on
the
you
know
the
the
front
desk
clerk
because
they
don't
have
authority
over
them
and
I
I.
My
thought
is
that
the
same
result
would
apply
for
a
commission
whether
it's
a
planning
commissioner
who's
unhappy
with
you
know,
planning
staff
or
or
airport
Commissioners,
who
are
unhappy
with
in
an
airport,
employee
I.
H
C
C
So
if
you
see
a
post
from
the
board
chair,
you
are
not
allowed
to
respond
to
it.
Comment
on
it
like
it
dislike
it,
put
a
frowny
face:
you're
not
allowed
to
do
any
of
that
on
other
members
of
your
legislative
body.
You
can
weigh
in
on
comments
or
posts
from
other
legislative
bodies,
so
you
can
weigh
in
on
a
council
member
post
or
a
post
from
a
supervisor.
C
As
they
mentioned,
the
kind
of
the
fundamental
purpose
of
the
agenda
is
to
allow
the
public
to
know.
What's
going
on,
the
members
of
the
public
have
the
right
to
speak
on
agenda
items
technically
for
special
meetings.
The
Brown
X
says
the
public
is
only
allowed
to
comment
on
those
items
that
are
on
the
agenda,
that
there
isn't
a
general
public
comment
portion
or
special
meetings.
Some
agencies
stick
to
that
pretty
strictly
and
they
say
okay
for
our
special
meetings.
You
can
only
comment
on
those
things
that
are
on
the
agenda.
C
Other
public
agencies
are
more
lacks
and
they
do
provide
for
a
public.
A
general
public
comment
section
again
for
agenda
items
has
to
be
there
before.
During
the
commission's
consideration
of
the
item
and
the
general
rule,
is
you
can't
discuss
or
take
action
on
things
unless
they're
on
on
the
agenda?
There
is
a
there
is
a
exception
called
for
late
breaking
items.
C
C
You've
probably
seen
this
happen
at
City
Council
meetings,
where
maybe
a
request
for
weighing
in
on
a
bill.
That's
going
to
be
heard
in
in
the
legislature
before
our
next
meeting
has
to
be
acted
on
so
we'll
add
it
to
the
agenda
as
a
late
breaking
item
again,
it
has
to
have
come
to
our
attention
after
the
agenda
was
posted.
The
brown
act
says:
look
if
the
city
knew
about
it.
You
know
two
days
or
a
day
before
the
agenda
was
posted.
We
really
should
have
put
it
on
the
agenda.
C
C
Sometimes
it's
helpful
to
the
public
to
know
that
they've
been
heard
to
refer
the
item
to
staff,
so
the
staff
can
follow
up
with
the
person
and
they
they
get
a
response
again.
The
product
doesn't
require
you
to
respond
to
comments
in
fact
it
kind
of
limits
it,
but
you
are
listening
to
them
next
slide
mentioned.
You
can
briefly
respond
to
these.
C
You
can
ask
for
a
clarification,
sometimes
that
asking
for
a
clarification
is
helpful
when
maybe
a
member
of
the
public
is
maybe
misinformed
about
the
facts,
and
you
want
to
make
sure
that
those
incorrect
facts
aren't
left
responded
to.
So
you
might
say
gee,
you
know.
Could
the
executive
director
please
address
their
allegation
that
you
know
the
airport
is
going
to
close
tomorrow
or
something
like
that,
and
you
can
make
brief
announcements
next
slide.
C
So
a
few
recent
bills
I'll
go
over
this
very
quickly
because
I
know
we've
gone
probably
longer
than
I
was
supposed
to,
but
teleconferencing.
You
know
after
the
pen
pandemic
started
a
lot
of
agencies
were
meeting
under
executive
orders.
The
legislature
then
responded
with
assembly
Bill
361,
which
allows
for
a
limited
time
period.
C
You
know
until
2024,
for
meetings
to
be
held
remotely
even
before
the
pandemic
teleconferencing
was
allowed,
but
there
were
certain
requirements
that
during
the
pandemic
proved
to
be
inefficient,
namely
teleconferencing
previously
required
you
to
post
the
agenda
at
each
location.
So
if,
if
the
members
of
the
commission
were
meeting
at
their
home
as
we
were
during
covid,
then
you
would
have
to
post
the
agenda
at
your
home
and
you'd
have
to
allow
members
of
the
public
to
show
up
at
your
home
which,
during
a
health
pandemic,
doesn't
make
any
sense.
C
C
C
G
C
Gonna
yeah,
interestingly,
the
bill
does
require,
if
we're,
if
we're,
holding
a
meeting,
if
we're
holding
it
remotely,
it
does
require
us
to
at
least
provide
One
location
for
members
of
the
public
to
participate
remotely,
whether
that
be
you
know,
in
the
lobby
of
city
hall
or
at
a
library,
or
something
like
that.
So
that's
for
members
of
the
public.
Obviously,
if
a
commissioner
is,
is
not
feeling
well
then
they're
in
a
different
situation.
C
They
can't
necessarily
go
to
the
library
or
city
hall
to
participate,
so
we'll
have
to
come
up
with
other
ways
to
address
that.
But
these
are.
These
are
the
fun
things
that
we
get
to
do
in
between
October,
when
the
bill
is
signed
in
January
when
it
goes
into
effect,
is
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
it.
H
H
C
D
C
B
D
D
H
H
C
H
What
the
only
the
only
gentle
pushback
Jeff
is
that
at
the
meeting
of
all
the
commissions
that
we
had
a
couple
of
months
ago,
Teresa
you
were
probably
there
mayor.
Middleton
said
she
wanted
feedback,
because
it
wasn't
clear
that
holding
the
commission
meetings
and
the
purpose
was
a
good
one.
It
was
to
try
to
get
more
public
involvement
post-work,
but
that
did
not
seem
to
be
happening
and
so
Teresa
I'll
defer
to
you.
If
that
feedback
allowed
people
to
move
the
meeting
around
again,
if
the
majority
of
the
commission
approved,
we.
D
Can
share
that
feedback
so
far,
there
hasn't
been
any
changes
in
in
that,
but
we
can
certainly
share
that
feedback
that
you
know
if
it's
not
achieving
the
desired
goal
Maybe
in
the
future,
they
may
reconsider,
as
we
go
through
the
final
process
of
updating
our
handbook
and
how
commissions
will
will
operate
moving
forward.
Okay
and.
H
C
C
C
It
means
the
the
presumption
will
be
at
some
point
that
they
are
in-person
meetings
and
they're,
going
to
be
limitations
on
the
number
of
remote
meetings
that
individual
Commissioners
can
attend
and
they're
going
to
have
to
demonstrate
why
they
have
to
meet
remotely
either
because
they
have
a
family
medical
emergency
or
they
have
to
take
care
of
somebody
or
they're
sick
themselves.
That's
what
it's
going
to
mean.
C
Yeah
I
mean
you'll,
be
you'll,
be
able
to
purchase.
It's
just
you'll
have
to
demonstrate
why
you
need
to
remote
participate
remotely
if
you
want
to
take
advantage
of
of
these
benefits.
If
you
want
to
post
your
location
and
allow
the
members
of
the
public
to
show
up
at
your
house,
then
that
that
brings
us
back
to
the
old.
You
know
the
old
days
of
teleconferencing
where
you
had
to
meet
those
requirements.
C
C
It
was
literally
making
the
the
body
enabled
to
to
me
whether
it's
potential
threats
of
violence
or
whatnot
SV
1100
allows,
after
a
a
clear
warning
to
members
of
the
public
that,
if
they're
disrupting
a
meeting
that
the
chair
of
of
a
legislative
body
can
have
an
individual
removed
from
from
the
meeting
again,
it
has
to
be
a
true
actual
disruption
of
the
meeting.
Not
just
you
don't
like
what
they
said.
C
That's
that's
allowed
in
America
right
next
slide
in
terms
of
ramifications
or
or
Consequences
of
Brown
act
violations.
There
can
be
civil
Court
actions
that
can
be
brought
to
enjoin
or
stop
a
particular
action
that
may
have
been
voted
on
without
compliance
with
the
brown
act.
In
some
cases,
a
person
could
ask
a
court
invalidate
a
vote
that
was
taken
in
violation
of
the
brown
act
or
mandate
Corrections.
C
Sometimes
courts
could
direct
alleged
body
to
like
take
take
notes
or
minutes
during
closed
session,
or
you
know,
people
are
supposed
to
do.
Under
the
brown
Act.
In
addition,
court
costs
and
attorney
fees
are
often
easily
recoverable
by
plaintiffs,
who
demonstrate
a
violation
of
the
brown
act.
I
mean
then
for
Commissioners
who
who
violate
the
brown
act.
It
typically
can
be
a
missing
criminal
criminal
violation
prosecuted
by
the
district
district
attorney.
C
If
you
have
any
questions
about
this
presentation
or
anything
else
related
to
to
Bowles
Commission
of
the
commission
or
anything
else
dealing
with
your
commissioner
status,
please
let
me
know
if
I
could
ask
Christina,
would
you
mind
sharing
a
copy
of
this
presentation
with
all
the
Commissioners
that
way
they
have
a
hard
copy
and
if
they
need
to
reach
out
to
me,
they
can
do
that.
I.
C
B
And
and
Jeff
on
behalf
of
the
entire
commission
honestly
and
I've,
been
on
the
commission
for
six
plus
years.
This
is
the
best
presentation
I've
seen
and
thank
you
for
being
so
informative
to
all
of
us
and
answering
all
our
questions.
I
have
one
more
last
question
before
any
other
Commissioners
want.
Does
the
current
city
of
Palm
Springs
ordinance
for
the
airport
commission
specifically
specified
the
number
of
monthly
meetings
we
have
to
have
mandatory.
C
No
I
don't
believe
it
does
I
believe
in
fact
it
it
has
language
that
says
that
the
commission
can
establish
their
meetings.
I'll
confirm
that,
but
I
I
think
it
basically
says
the
commission
can
establish
can
establish
their
meetings.
The
brown
act
does
say
that
legislative
bodies
have
to
have
at
least
one
meeting
per
year,
but
I
don't
think
that
there's
a
there's,
a
ordinance
that
requires
a
certain
number
of
meetings.
B
C
Yeah
I
don't
see
it
in
either
the
general.
We
have
a
section
dealing
with
boards
and
commissions
generally,
and
then
we
have
a
chapter
dealing
with
the
airport
commission
and,
and
it
does
not,
it
doesn't
appear
to
require
any
set
meeting
schedule
other
than
what
you,
as
a
majority
of
your
commission,
establish
and.
B
The
reason
I
will
share
with
all
the
Commissioners
that
one
of
the
boards
I
sit
on,
which
is
the
joint
Power
Authority
and
the
visit
Creator
Palm
Springs,
which
we
have
a
board
of
about
36,
including
nine
electives,
we've
now
tailored
down
to
five
meetings
a
year,
and
that
was
the
reason
behind
it.
It
takes
a
lot
of
that
time.
C
Well,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
talk
I'm,
sorry.
It
took
so
long.
I
I
get
really
excited
about
things
like
the
brown
act
and
so
I
talk
and
talk
and
talk.
So
so
super
indulging
this
Municipal
honored
and
talking,
and
if
you
have
questions
you
think
of
afterwards,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me.
E
We
anticipate
in
early
October
that
we'll
start
to
see
a
significant
increase
on
the
demand
of
the
baggage
handling
system.
So,
as
that
starts
to
increase,
what
will
happen?
Is
the
airport
will
start
to
roll
in
basically
augmentation
to
support
the
system
to
continue
to
get
bags
through
through
the
system
as
required,
and
that
could
be
various
levels,
varying
levels
of
Operational
Support,
just
kind
of
dependent
on
how
many
bags
we're
seeing
at
the
ticket
counters
at
any
one
time
and
how
many
passengers
were
projecting
through
the
facility.
E
Now
in
terms
of
forward-looking
right
now,
the
the
answer
is:
stop
Gap
mitigations
to
to
kind
of
keep
the
system
going
until
we
have
a
firm
plan
in
place
that
we
can
Implement
over
the
long
term.
What
that
looks
like
those
decisions,
are
going
to
be
made
over
the
coming
weeks
in
consultation,
both
with
this
body,
as
well
as
the
city
council
and
with
the
city
manager.
The
fa
is
heavily
involved
in
that
TSA
is
heavily
involved
with
that
we're
also
speaking
with
the
airlines
on
that
issue
as
well.
E
So
as
new
information
arises
for
us,
we
feed
that
kind
of
into
our
decision-making
process
and
then
from
there
figure
out
what
what
we'll
need
over
the
next,
not
only
year
two
years
but
the
next
five
to
ten
years
and
that'll
help
us
get
to
where
hopefully
hopeless
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
in
terms
of
the
baggage
handling
system,
as
we
continue
to
do
that.
So
the
goal
here
really
is
to
get
it
right.
But
in
order
to
do
that,
we
need
to
observe
over
time
what
the
system's
doing.
E
We
have
some
of
that
data
available
to
us,
obviously
from
the
last
season,
but
we
also
need
to
know
what
what
impacts
those
changes
that
we've
made
over
the
summer
as
well
as
what
impacts
the
augmentation
will
supply
to
us
to
get
us
to
the
to
the
next
step.
So
that's
really
where
we
are
with
baggage
handling
system.
Are
there
any
questions
on
that.
H
Well,
to
do
things
right,
Harry.
We
need
to
know
what
went
wrong
and
so
you
know
that's
one
of
our
challenges
right.
It's
just
don't
know
it's
opaque,
so
I
would
second
what
commissioner
Miller
suggested,
but
we
can
have
that
conversation
at
the
offsite
I'm
still
frustrated.
Frankly,
I
I,
don't
know
what
went
wrong
so
well.
E
Absolutely
commissioner
Payne
yeah.
They
answer
that
question.
We
are
still
finding
information
about
what
went
wrong
and,
frankly,
that's
still
being
investigated
at
the
city
attorney's
office.
So
while,
while
the
City
attorney
and
while
the
airport
staff
are
working
together,
what's
essentially
happened
is
the
investigative
piece
of
that
we've
handed
off
to
the
City
attorney
to
continue
to
do
some
digging
while
we
focus
on
future
actions
and
making
sure
that
the
airport
is
still
running.
B
Yeah
and
and
commissioner
Payne
and
commissioner
Miller
just
keep
in
mind
the
decision
for
the
new
seven
eight
million
dollar
baggage
hunting
system
was
made
several
years
ago.
Neither
Harry
nor
Danielle
were
involved,
and
they
were
even
part
of
the
team
at
that
time.
So,
personally,
I
don't
think
what
we
will
accomplish
by
beating
a
dead
horse,
as
Harry
mentioned
that
him
and
his
staff
have
dug
really
deep
by
having
additional
Staffing
to
mitigate
as
much
as
possible
from
the
customer,
satisfaction
and
customers
side
of
it.
B
G
H
Kind
of
kind
of
doesn't
make
the
commission
functional,
I,
I,
guess
Harry.
What
I
will
do
per
Jeff's
recommendation
is
I
will
send
you
a
note
per
Jeff
and
copy
the
chairman
and
the
vice
chair
and
Christina,
and
make
the
request
for
a
closed
session
to
have
a
discussion
around
what
happened.
What
did
have
happened?
Why
won't
it
happen
again?
Etc
just
because
you
can't
you
can't
fix
things.
If
you
don't
know
what
went
wrong,
and
this
is
not
a
it
to
me.
H
It's
a
fiduciary
responsibility
as
a
good
commissioner,
and
this
is
not
looking
to
cast
aspersions
on
anybody.
You
just
you
got
to
fix
it
right.
You've
already
done
the
work,
so
you've
got
a
much
better
idea.
You
and
staff
of
what
went
down
and,
as
a
commissioner
I
feel
it's
my
responsibility
to
understand
that
as
well.
H
E
H
E
H
B
A
A
We
we
went
through
where
we
currently
are
in
parking
and
getting
ready
as
we
move
into
October
in
November
and
I
think
we
were
fairly
satisfied
as
to
the
state
of
play
on
parking
and
I
I.
Don't
know
that
I'd
be
able
to
add
much
more
from
what
Harry
was
discussing
and
also
the
side
discussions
in
moving
forward
on
determining
what
what's
what's
happened
or
what
did
happen
to
to
to
baggage
handling.
The
the
questions
that
were
arising
in
in
in
Harry's
discussion
were
were
pretty
much.
H
No
John
I
think
you
covered
it
well.
I
think
conrack
is
a
a
large
effort.
That's
going
to
be
part
of
Master
Plan
per
Harry's
comments,
both
in
Ops
meeting
and
yeah.
We've
already
talked
about
baggage,
so
right,
I
think
the
only
other
thing
that
we
had
some
conversation
on
if
Harry
wants
to
do.
A
quick
summary
was
on
land
side
in
some
of
the
short-term
tactical
things
that
he
and
staff
are
doing
to
prep
for
season
coming
up,
but
all
seemed
you
know,
that's
well
in
hand.
Harry
I,
don't
know.
E
I
can
touch
base
very
quickly
on
that,
so
we
are
doing.
You
know,
like
you,
said,
very
tactical,
implementing
some
tactical
solutions
to
address
landsides.
So
what
we
experienced,
probably
around
the
November
time
frame
last
year,
maybe
late
October
early
November
last
year,
was
that
we
essentially
had
run
out
of
public
parking
on
the
airport.
Now
part
of
that
was
due
to
the
location
of
where
the
covet
Clinic
was
on
the
airport,
where
it
was
cited.
E
We
would
essentially
operate
an
economy
lot
and
we
would
operate
a
premium
lot,
a
premium
lot
being
in
front
of
the
terminal,
the
economy
lot
being
the
Overflow
lot,
with
either
shuttle
or
conveyance
services
to
the
terminal
to
get
passengers
to
the
terminals,
so
we're
working
on
that
process.
Right
now,
you
know
as
soon
as
I
finished
paperwork
and
go
across
the
street.
Now
how
long
the
procurement
process
takes
to
design
that
that's
another
story,
but
hopefully,
over
the
next
12
months,
we'll
have
a
solution
that
accommodates
our
parking
needs.
G
Think
if
Commissioners
have
any
influence
with
any
of
the
council
members
to
help
Harry
get
those
positions
filled,
I
would
suspect
the
airport
is
not
number
one
on
the
priority
list
it
should
be,
but
I
don't
think
it
is
that
I
think
as
Commissioners,
we
should
try
as
best
we
can,
with
our
contacts
to
help
Harry
get
the
staff
filled,
that
he
needs
to
get
filled
to
keep
the
airport
running
smoothly
and
efficiently
as
well.
So,
commissioner,.
H
E
That
is
accurate.
The
issue
is
not
with
the
funding
piece
of
it.
The
issue
is
just
with
backfilling
vacant
positions
that
we
already
had
on
the
books,
as
well
as
filling
those
positions
that
we
added
to
the
books
over
this
last
budget
season.
So
there
are
some
key
positions
that
obviously
have
not
been
filled
yet,
for
example,
I
still
don't
have
an
assistant
airport
director
I,
don't
have
a
maintenance
superintendent.
H
E
We
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
ftes
requested
in
our
last
budget
cycle
and
because
we
had
so
many
it's
taking
Human
Resources
a
while
to
get
through
that
process.
So
they
started
with
the
most
critical
positions
which
they
believe
were
police
and
fire,
and
that
makes
sense
and
then
they're
kind
of
working
their
way
through
the
priority
list.
And
a
lot
of
this
is
a
discussion
for
another
time
because
we're
kind
of
off
topic.
But
you
know
that's
that's
where
we
are
as
an
organization
right
now
got.
B
Hr
is
really
bogged
down
and
continue
to
bog
down
with
some
senior
management
positions,
being
the
city
manager,
new
fire
chief
and
on
and
on
so
those
are
very
high
priority
and
again,
in
my
opinion,
Harry's
team
is
also
equally
high
priority,
so
but
it
has
to
go
through
the
HR
and
the
the
process
of
going
through
all
the
stuff
understand.
Thank
you.
F
F
I
guess
I'll
take
all
of
that
information
from
those
sessions
to
revise
the
current
draft
logos
that
want
to
say
again
they
were
draft
logos
and
either
if
they
can't
revise
those
or
would
they
maybe
just
we
don't
want
to
move
forward
with
them.
We
will.
They
will
develop
some
more
options
for
us
to
go
and
look
at
also
be
bringing
these
to
marketing
airport,
commission
marketing
committee
and
then
on
to
the
full
report.
Commission,
eventually
to
the
city
council
and
we're
going
to
launch
in
early
2023
is
the
plan
right
now.
F
I,
don't
have
any
solidified
dates
right
now
we
are
going
to
most
go
through
the
next
public
sessions
and
the
community
stakeholder
meetings
and
then
we'll
kind
of
revise
our
schedule
once
we
get
those
done
and
see
kind
of
where
we,
where
we
land,
when
it
comes
to
draft
logos
and
what
additional
work
may
need
to
be
done.
I
also
want
to
add
on
this
additional
swing,
based
on
some
comments
that
we
saw
publicly.
F
After
about
this,
we
did
Issue
a
request
for
proposals
to
develop
the
brand
and
a
website
for
30
days
back
in
may.
We
received
eight
total
proposals
and
no
local
agencies
submitted
approvals
of
the
time
we
had
proposals
from
companies
from
San
Diego
to
I'm,
not
kidding
Halifax
Canada,
but
unfortunately
we
do
not
have
any
from
within
the
Coachella
Valley.
So
we
value
the
proposals
in
the
top
talk
about
are
the
most
qualified
evaluation
or
proposal
and
Company
was
selected
to
move
forward
by
the
committee.
F
So
moving
ahead,
Air
Service
update
passenger
numbers
are
again
still
continue
to
climb.
I've
got
two
months
on
here,
because
we
didn't
have
our
meeting
in
August.
So
July
was
a
yet
another
new
record
of
3.2
percent
over
July
2021
July
21
was
also
a
record
in
itself.
At
that
time,
August
was
up
over
10
over
August
21.
That's
a
new
record
August
21
was
also
a
record
when
it
was
set
last
year.
F
So
we've
now
had
13
passenger
records,
since
June
of
21,
22
and
2022
numbers
are
now
beating
the
records
we
set
in
2021.
So
we
definitely
well
it's
gonna,
be
busy
I'll
see
in
my
next
couple.
Slides
I'm
coming
up
swoop
has
told
us
they
were
not
going
to
return
their
seasonal
service
to
Edmonton
Canada
this
year,
but
we
still
have
Flair
and
WestJet
still
offering
that
route.
So
we
did
not
lose
that
market
swoop
is
also
owned
by
WestJet.
F
So
I've
been
told
that
passengers
that
were
originally
booked
on
a
swoop
flight
have
actually
been
moved
over
to
some
WestJet
flights.
They
still
have
access
to
the
valley
and
us
to
go
up
there.
Aha
Airlines
filed
for
bankruptcy
and
ceased
all
operations,
so
we
no
longer
have
any
service
to
Reno.
At
this
time,
then
American
Airlines
some
good
news
from
American.
They
originally
announced
holiday,
seasonal
service
to
Austin
Texas.
It
was
originally
going
to
operate
for
Thanksgiving,
Christmas
and
New
Year's.
F
It's
now
going
to
run
daily
November
17th
through
29th
and
starting
December,
15th
it'll
run
daily
through
May
4th,
so
they
switched
it
from
a
holiday
seasonal
route.
To
basically
a
full
tour
season.
Route
Austin
I
want
to
know
is
also
a
focused
City,
so
this
will
offer
additional
connection
opportunities.
The
flying
to
Austin
gets
in
kind
of
later
in
the
evening
around
6
PM
I
believe,
but
there's
still
departures
connecting
opportunities
to
about
six
or
seven
different
East
Coast
cities
from
there.
F
So
just
like
some
some
additional
connection
opportunities
for
people
locals
wanting
to
go
to
the
east
coast
for
us
Allegiance,
they
announced
that
Eugene
Provo
in
Indiana
will
not
be
returning
they're
still
going
to
be
offering
Bellingham
Des,
Moines
and
Nashville.
But
then
we
had
a
Velo
announced
they
came
abroad
in
Eugene,
so
we
still
will
retain
service
to
Eugene
Oregon,
we're
also
gaining
service
to
bend
Redmond
and
then
also
Santa
Rosa.
F
F
You
can
see
here.
We
have
our
schedule
departing
States
for
the
remainder
of
2022..
You
can
see
in
the
gold
we
have
the
two
2022
numbers
black
is
last
year
in
21
and
then
and
then
the
blue
numbers
is
2019..
So
September
is
going
to
be
up
10
over
September
of
last
year.
October
is
up
almost
two
percent
November's
up
over
19
compared
to
2021
and
December's
up
23
compared
to
2021
all
of
those
months.
F
F
F
I
do
want
to
take
down
the
trees,
but
it's
going
to
be
over
an
area
where
that
still
could
be
used,
and
then
next
fiscal
year
we've
also
gotten
additional
quotes
to
do
additional
shade
structures
over
the
patios
on
the
Bono
Concourse
for
the
Santo
Rosa
patios.
The
shade
structures
will
put
in
this
fiscal
year
that
we're
going
to
use
the
matching
Grant
funds
for
they'll
be
kind
of
more
I.
F
Everything
about
sales
is
coming,
is
a
permanent
TSA
pre-check
enrollment
at
the
airport,
clear,
is
going
to
add
additional
kiosks
that
will
allow
the
public
to
sign
up
for
TSA
pre-check
at
PSP
instead
of
driving
to
a
location,
I
believe
the
closest
area
I
want
to
say,
might
be
in
Indio
actually
currently
right.
Now,
because
you
know,
people
start
to
process
online
and
they
have
to
go.
Do
an
in-person
verification
and
they'll
be
able
to
do
this
with
clear
at
Palm
Springs
Airport.
Now
that.
H
F
F
G
So
so
so
a
passenger
or
someone
who's
applied
online
for
the
TSA
designation
can
then
go
there
verify
their
printer
fingerprints.
Do
all
of
that
not
have
to
up
do
an
appointment
or
wait
for
months,
because
there
are
some
locations
that
you
have
to
wait
months
to
get
an
interview,
and
then
they
can
finish
up
the
process.
There.
F
From
my
understanding,
yes,
you
still
apply
online.
You
have
to
wait
until
your
background
checks
are
complete.
Once
you
get
the
notice
that
you
can
go
schedule
your
interview
for
your
identity
verification,
then
they
can
go
on
to
move
to
that.
Yes
and
they'll
be
able
to
do
that
with
clear,
so
they'll
be
contracting
with
TSA
for
that
or
maybe
it's
DHS
I
forget
the
federal
government
so.
F
F
F
Moving
on
later
on
for
this
year
holiday
decorating,
so
previous
years
we've
had
our
own
airport
staff
has
done.
The
decorating
in
the
airport
done
a
great
job,
but
we
decided
we
went
to
contract
with
a
professional
holiday
company
and
to
get
commercial
quality,
holiday,
decor
and
they're
going
to
install
and
maintain
the
airport
holiday
Decor.
They
will
also
remove
it
at
the
end
of
the
season.
They
will
store
it
for
us
all
year
round
and
then
they'll
pull
it
out
and
get
it
ready
for.
F
So
if
they
pull
out
a
tree
and
the
lights
don't
turn
on,
they
will
fix
that
for
us
as
part
of
the
contract
and
we're
getting
new
Decor
to
replace
what
you
see
in
the
center
Center
terminal
area
of
the
past
several
years.
So
new
trees,
Garland
reefs
things
like
that.
Some
new
additions
that
we
have
not
had
in
previous
years
we're
going
to
have
a
20
foot
tall
out
in
the
courtyard
we've
never
had
anything
about
the
before
at
least
well.
That
I'm
aware
of
maybe
in
the
past.
F
In
the
last
several
years,
I
I've
been
told,
we
haven't
had
anything
there
and
something
else:
new
we're
going
to
kind
of
lamp
post
holiday,
Decor
along
along
every
other
lamp
post,
going
down
to
the
RJ
Gates.
We've
not
done
that
in
the
past.
We're
excited
to
have
something
like
that,
we'll
be
starting.
F
A
F
You
some
of
the
things
we're
doing
community
engagement.
We
will
be
participating
in
Greater,
Palm,
Springs
Pride
again
this
year
for
the
second
year
in
a
row,
we're
also
for
the
first
year
going
to
participate
in
the
Festival
of
Lights
Parade.
We've
actually
formed
a
parade
Committee
of
some
airport
staff,
they've,
actually
they're
working
on
building
a
float
for
us
and
getting
us
prepared
for
that.
F
The
flood
will
be
built
to
be
used
for
both
so
we'll
decorate
it
for
pride
and
then
be
able
to
swap
it
out,
make
it
more
of
a
holiday
theme
for
the
festival.
Let's
trade
in
December
also
currently
researching
additional
I'm
working
with
our
Ad
Agency
to
research,
additional
Area
events
and
organizations
for
opportunities
for
us
to
get
involved
and
then
in
November
we'll
be
having
the
20th
anniversary
event
for
The
Navigators,
we'll
be
hosting
that
I
believe
at
the
convention
center.
F
We're
still
trying
to
walk
down
the
date
and
time
I'm
planning
to
have
a
luncheon
for
them
and
then
also
do
some
recognition
for
those
for
hours
of
service
and
years
of
service.
We
have
some
Navigators
I've,
been
with
us
over
15
years,
almost
since
the
start
of
the
program,
so
we
definitely
want
to
recognize
them
and
thank
them
for
their
volunteer
hours,
and
that
would
be
good
shares.
Any
questions.
Yes,.
F
F
A
Yeah
Daniel,
you
mentioned
April
being
down
four
percent
in
capacity
and
I
hear
that
as
a
good
thing
at
all,
that's
one
of
our
most
important
months
in
the
valley.
Do
you
have
any
insiders
this
something
we
should
be
talking
to
the
convention,
visitors,
bureau
and
their
partnership
on
on?
You
know
the
airline
side
on
this,
because
that
is
not
good
news.
F
For
pressure
on
the
facility,
it's
a
little
helpful,
I
guess
this
time,
but
no
it's
really
primarily
to
the
swoop
pulling
out
of
the
market
in
the
bankruptcy
of
aha
is
where
that's
down.
All
of
our
other
routes
are
intact.
Our
primaries
really
pull
a
lot
of
people
from
so
I
I
wouldn't
view
it
too
terribly
and
then
also
there
may
be,
and
also
not
all
Airlines
have
finalized
all
their
schedules.
F
Most
of
the
airlines
are
out
through
April,
not
everyone's
out
through
May,
like,
for
instance,
Southwest
doesn't
put
their
May
schedule
out
just
yet.
There
still
may
be
some
revisions,
and
some
of
that
may
be
picked
up
either
way.
So
I
would
view
April
more
as
very
tentative
right
now.
We'll
know,
I'll
have
a
much
better
picture
when
we
get
to
January.
H
A
F
F
F
Yes,
the
public
meetings
are
all
on
on
zoom
and
then,
if
you
check
Christina's,
put
notices
out
on
the
there's.
No
solution
in
the
newspaper
then
also
on
the
city's
website
for
the
the
city's
calendar
and
then
also
we
have
Facebook
events
created.
So
people
can
see
it
on
social
media
and
find
the
app
find
the
link
as
well
and
sign
up
for
that.
D
F
Yeah,
this
is
for
the
public
to
give
us
feedback
and
and
kind
of
help
us
learn
from
them
and
help
guide
us
in
this
process,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
this
right
for
the
community
and
that's
the
intent
of
these
to
hear
the
public
everything
we
brought
later
to
the
marketing
committee
and
the
full
commission
as
well.
So
you
got
the
all
the
commission.
All
the
Commissioners
will
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
on
in
comment
and
guide
us
on
this
process
as
well.
I
Sorry
I
have
to
unmute
it
first
and
then
I'll
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
all
right.
Good
evening.
Sharon
data
and
members
of
the
commission
I'll
try
to
go
pretty
quickly
because
I
know
it's
late
and
everybody's
probably
ready
to
get
off
the
line.
Here.
We
still
have
a
couple
more
items
to
discuss,
so
I'll
try
to
be
as
quick
as
I
can,
but
I
also
wanted
to
kind
of
just
do
a
quick
brief
about.
I
You
know
the
funds
and
what
they're
for
and
since
it's
the
new
fiscal
year,
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
just
talk
about
it,
a
little
bit
differently
since
it's
the
start
of
the
year
and
then
go
ahead
and
move
forward.
So
I'm
doing
the
presentation
for
the
airport
financials
for
the
second
fiscal
period
ending
on
August
31st
2022..
I
The
financial
package
will
identify
the
fund,
the
operating
revenue
and
expenditures
and
then
the
net
balance.
The
columns
represent
the
fiscal
year,
23
annual
budget
from
July
1
2022
through
June
30th
2023
it'll
also
have
the
year-to-date
actual
through
the
end
of
the
period
that
we're
closing
and
then
the
percentage
of
the
budget
used.
I
I
and
we'll
have
fiscal
year
2021
in
there
as
a
reference,
so
for
the
very
first
fund
that
we
have
is
our
fund
405,
which
is
a
restricted
fund
for
customer
facility
charges.
The
customer
facility
charges
are
collected
by
the
rental
car
companies
when
a
passenger
runs
a
vehicle
effective
on
March
1st
2022
city
council
approved
to
increase
the
fees
collected
from
a
10
per
transaction
to
a
nine
dollar
per
day.
I
Up
to
five
days
fund
405
revenue
is
generally
used
for
Capital
and
financing
costs
of
rental
car
related
projects
such
as
a
Consolidated
rental
car
facility
that
we
can
even
utilize
it
for
related
roadway
systems,
operating
expenses
of
a
con
Rack
or
even
the
common
busing
system
to
the
Conrad.
So
the
year-to-date
revenues
are
about
four
percent
of
the
budget
of
about
7.5
million
dollars.
The
revenues
total
about
264
000,
a
48
change
when
compared
to
fiscal
year,
22
and
primarily
because
of
the
rate
increase.
I
The
next
page
is
fund
410,
which
is
a
restricted
fund
for
passenger
facility
charges.
The
fast
the
passenger
facility
charge
is
a
fee
that
passengers
pay
on
their
ticket.
The
fee
of
4.50
is
collected
for
every
in
plain
passenger
up
to
an
18
cap
and
is
remitted
to
the
airport
by
the
airlines
minus
a
service
charge
of
11
cents.
The
revenues
collected
can
be
used
for
eligible
airport-related
projects
like
airport
development,
airport
planning,
terminal
development,
noise,
compatibility
planning,
constructing
Gates
and
converting
vehicles
and
Crown
support
equipment
to
low
emission
technology.
I
Those
are
just
some
examples.
The
current
revenue
is
roughly
five
percent
of
the
budget
of
6.8
million
dollars
and
total
about
331
dollars.
The
expenses
that
will
post
to
this
count
account
are
related
to
the
principal
and
interest
expense
on
June,
1st
and
December
1st
of
roughly
2.5
million
per
year
for
The
Debt
Service
on
the
2019
airport
passenger
facility
charge
revenue
bonds.
I
Fund
415
is
the
airport's
maintenance
and
operation
fund.
The
mno
fund
collects
operating
revenues
from
two
sources:
Airline
revenue
and
non-airline
revenue,
Airline
revenues
derived
primarily
from
Landing
fees,
building,
rentals
cold
room
fees
and
other
Aviation
revenue.
Non-Aireline
revenue
includes
public
parking
and
ground
transportation
terminal
and
other
concessions,
rental,
car
fees,
ground
rents
and
other
operating
revenues.
Airline
revenues
are
20
percent
of
overall
revenues,
while
80
percent
stem
from
non-airline
revenue.
The
key
Revenue
generators
are
on
Airport
rental
cars,
public
parking
and
land
rentals.
I
I
Then
the
next
fund
is
fund
416,
the
airport
Capital
Improvement
project
fund.
The
airport
maintains
a
five-year
Capital
program
that
is
intended
to
address
critical
improvements
in
asset
preservation.
Capital
expenditures
are
any
project
over
50
000..
The
airport
current
current
capital
program
includes
projects
started
before
fiscal
year
23,
as
well
as
new
projects.
To
be
undertaken
during
this
fiscal
year,
there
is
an
estimated
budget
of
12
million
in
capital
projects.
I
H
B
Yeah
and
add
to
that
comment,
the
convention
calendar
for
our
Convention
Center
for
October
November
December
is
the
strongest
I've
seen
it
in
a
decade.
So
I
have
a
very
strong
feeling
that
our
Rent-A-Car
revenues
and
everything
else
will
climb
through
the
roof,
especially
compared
to
last
year.
Great
news,
great.
B
E
Absolutely
chair,
dada
and
I
will
try
and
keep
this
as
short
as
possible.
So
there
were
a
couple
of
things
that
the
airport
had
been
working
on,
that
we
included
in
our
budget
process
for
this
year
in
terms
of
improvements
to
the
terminal
facility,
as
well
as
just
broader
improvements
to
the
airport
campus-wide,
one
of
those
being
the
implementation
of
common
use,
which
would
have
included
not
only
converting
The
Concourse
gates
from
an
I.T
perspective,
but
also
a
construction
project
on
the
Bono,
Concourse
and
I.
E
Think
you
know,
if
you
remember
back
a
couple
of
of
meetings
ago,
I
I
provided
some
concept
drawings
of
what
that
would
look
like
in
terms
of
demolition
of
the
center
of
customer
service,
Highlands
and
installation
of
new
podiums
Etc
is
to
include
Carpeting
and
new
monitors
where
we
are
right
now.
With
that
project,
we've
had
a
a
delay,
there's
been
a
long
lead
time
on
the
equipment
for
the
I.T
part
of
that
project.
E
At
the
same
time,
there's
also
a
delay
in
the
materials
relative
to
the
construction
piece
of
that,
so
the
airport
right
now
has
been
working
with
Amadeus
who's.
Our
common
use
provider
on
a
plan
to
Mid
on
a
plan
to
modify
that
schedule,
so
the
idea
is
to
implement
common
use
in
the
Regional
Jet
Concourse,
which
needs
no
construction.
E
So
from
an
I.T
perspective,
it
would
just
be
a
matter
of
swapping
out
equipment,
making
sure
that
we
had
the
network
Provisions
to
the
gates,
as
well
as
deploy
common
use
to
the
ticket
counters,
which
we
believe
will
help
balance
the
baggage
handling
system
to
a
degree.
Our
hope
is
to
do
that
by
November
and
then
the
construction
piece
of
that
in
the
Bono
Concourse
would
follow
either
shortly
after
the
new
year
or
sometime
in
May.
E
Just
kind
of
depends
on
what
the
airline
schedules
are
looking
like,
but
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
disrupt
the
airline
operations
during
the
peak
season.
So
the
idea
is
to
as
much
as
possible
deconflict
with
the
airlines
in
terms
of
converting
the
terminal
over.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
time
before
we
get
to
that
construction
piece,
but
the
airport's
still
marching
in
that
direction.
E
Okay,
the
other
piece
of
that
we
had
promised
restroom
Renovations
and
we
are
just
now
getting
started
on
the
procurement
process
for
the
restroom
renovation.
So
those
still
need
to
go
through
the
design
process.
Once
we've
completed,
then
we
would
go
out
to
bid
for
construction
I,
anticipate
that
it
will
be
again,
probably
April
or
May
before
we
actually
get
to
a
place
where
we're
starting
to
see
some
substantial
work
on
the
restroom
Renovations
and
again,
that's
just
to
deconflict
with
the
upcoming
season.
We
don't.
E
Another
effort
we've
been
working
on
internally
was
the
airport
master
plan.
So
if
you
all
recall,
we
went
to
RFP
for
master
plan
Consultants,
so
we
can
start
that
process
that
RFP
closed.
Two
days
ago,
two
or
three
days
ago,
we
had
four
respondents.
They
are
in
the
rating
process.
Now,
I
anticipate
we'll
have
a
preferred
consultant
selected
no
later
than
the
end
of
next
week
and
from
there
we'll
start
the
process
of
actually
planning
what
the
airport
will
look
like
for
the
next
20
years.
E
E
Now,
along
with
that,
so
the
airport's
been
in
discussions
with
Customs
and
Border
Protection
and
the
subject
matter
of
that
was
the
potential
for
expanding
international
service,
creating
a
FIS,
adding
Customs
Personnel
here
at
Palm
Springs,
so
that
we
can
serve
those
non-pre-cleared
cities
that
we're
not
serving
right
now.
So
Customs
was
actually
very
gracious
to
us.
They
met
with
us
for
about
an
hour
and
a
half.
They
provided
us
with
kindness.
Some
tips
for
you
know
how
we
should
proceed.
E
What
a
business
plan
should
look
like
to
support
a
case
for
them
to
expand
international
service.
Here
we
took
that
back
and
we're
already
starting
to
incorporate
that
into
our
plans
now
for
an
FIS
feasibility
study.
Concurrently
visit,
greater
Palm
Springs
is
also
working
with
us
on
a
feasibility
study,
so
their
feasibility,
their
feasibility
study,
would
focus
on
benchmarking.
What
worked
what
didn't
work
in
past
projects?
Ours
would
focus
more
on
Palm,
Spring,
specific
future
development.
E
E
Correct
and
the
big
issue
there
is
with
CBP
at
least
is
they
want
to
be
able
to
see?
They
want
Palm
Springs
to
demonstrate
that
there's
an
economic
impact,
positive
economic
impact.
So
if
we
can
support
that
in
some
way,
then
they'd
be
more
willing
to
move
in
the
direction
of
expanding
Services.
Here.
H
E
That's
part
of
what
visit
greater
Palm
Springs
is
looking
at,
but
also
Customs,
provided
us
with
some
some
airports,
both
locally
or
both
within
the
California
region,
as
well
as
nationally
that
we
should
take
a
look
at
and
see
how
they
they
approach
their
process.
So
we
have
that
list
available
to
us
and
we're
starting
to
work
through
that
now,
who.
E
A
A
E
So
there
are
a
number
of
factors
that
go
into
that,
the
first
one
being
that
in
order
to
expand
international
service
and
to
have
custom
support
for
that,
we
would
need
to
have
commitments
from
Airlines.
That
would
not
necessarily
provide
us
schedules,
but
that
would
pledge
that
if
we
built
an
FIS,
they
would
operate
here.
So
that's
kind
of
the
first
piece
of
that
we're
starting
that
process
now
and
discussions
with
the
airlines
about
what
that
would
look
like
from
our
perspective.
I
E
E
And
then
the
last
thing
is
strategic
planning
for
us,
so
that's
going
to
take
place
next,
Tuesday
I've
been
working
with
chair
data
and
vice
chair
Corcoran,
on
that
we
do
believe
we
have
an
agenda
mostly
stat
pristine
has
been
working
on
the
logistics,
for
that
and
Christina
could
probably
add
some
amplifying
information.
Since
she
turned
on
her
camera.
It
sounds
like
she
wants
to
so
I'll.
Let
her
take
that
over.
A
A
D
As
far
as
dinner,
we're
going
to
be
ordering
Italian.
So
again,
please,
if
you
have
any
dietary
restrictions,
please
email
me
as
soon
as
possible,
so
I
can
make
sure
that
we
accommodate
your
restrictions
and
we're
gonna,
try
and
make
you
as
comfortable
as
possible
during
the
meeting.
And
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
email
me.
D
In
terms
of
the
survey
we
received
nine,
actually
we
received
now
I
believe
13
responses.
We
had
a
little
glitch
with
the
survey
cut
off
on
the
other
day
at
five
o'clock,
with
the
deadline
for
Tuesday,
but
we
have
reached
out
to
those
Commissioners
that
did
not
have
access
to.
Let
them
know
the
survey
has
been
reopened
and
it
will
be
open
through
tomorrow
at
five
o'clock.
So
if
you
have
not
turned
in
your
survey,
please
do
so,
but
thank
you
everyone
for
your
comments.
We
really
appreciate
them.
A
A
So
that's
the
vision
in
terms
of
what
happens
Beyond
next
steps
and
again
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
get
our
fingerprints
on
all
of
these.
These
ideas
and
potential
Investments
and
be
able
to
enter
the
long-term
planning
process
for
the
point
of
view,
I'm
sure
we
won't
get
it
all
nailed
down
perfectly,
but
that's
our
intent
and
we'll
look
forward
to
it's
going
to
be
an
intense
day.
A
But
as
we
move
through
topics,
if
some
of
this
become
redundant
because
we've
talked
about
them
in
the,
for
example,
the
five
to
ten
year
window
will
move
faster
through
some
of
those
topics.
So
we
think
we've
secured
enough
time
to
go
deep
in
all
of
them
and,
like
I,
said
we're
going
to
review
everything
on
Monday
to
make
sure
we're
ready
for
you
at
12
30
on
Tuesday
any
other
questions.
Aftab
did
I
miss
anything
nope.