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A
B
Chair
Clark
president
vice
chairman,
can
Commissioner
Baker
is
excused
Commissioner
Flanagan,
Commissioner,
Friedman,
Commissioner,
Futterman,
Commissioner
gothy
are
present,
Commissioner
Goins,
present
Commissioner,
Miller,
Commissioner,
Santora
and
Commissioner
Wilson
are
excused.
We
have
a
quorum.
Thank
you.
A
A
D
Just
to
put
that
out
there
and
we
can
relegate
maybe
some
more
detailed
discussions
about
what
things
look
like
to
a
different
venue.
But
I
just
wanted
to
throw
this
out
there.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
noticed
is
that
the
kinds
of
documents
that
we
receive
from
the
Commission
are
things
like
memos
and
reports
from
subcommittees.
So
those
are
the
two
main
products
that
we
see
and
then
the
question
was
raised
about
business
cards.
D
For
Commission
members,
so
those
are
three
things
that
I
know
are
sort
of
branded
as
the
Commission
and
so
I
just
was
curious
to
know,
if
there's
anything
else
that
should
be
on
our
radar,
that
people
feel
like
should
be
kind
of.
Have
a
commission
brand
to
it
any
thoughts
about
anything
else
that
you
can
think
of
that
might
need
that.
I
know.
D
C
D
D
Identify
this
office
of
sustainability
and
the
work
that
we
do
and
so
that
the
two
circle
things
at
the
top,
the
one
main
circle
is
the
logo
that
you
typically
see
for
the
products
that
we
developed.
We
developed
in
the
office,
the
other
one
up.
There
is
just
something
I
found
on
the
website:
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
background
on
that,
but
that
was
another
one
that
I
found.
D
All
right
and
then
we
also
have
the
two
box
shaped
the
rectangular
shaped
items.
One
has
been
added
with
we
added
the
office
or
I'm,
sorry,
the
sustainability
Commission
on
it
and
then,
when
down
below,
is
office
of
sustainability.
So
again,
those
are
just
things
that
we
developed
as
we
needed
them
for
different
reasons,
and
then
we
have
the
banner
that
appears
at
the
events
that
we
host
or
that
we
take
part
in
the
tablecloth,
and
so
that
appears
on
our
table
when
we
have
a
booth
and
then
the
last
one
down.
D
D
Yeah,
we
definitely
want
to
promote
the
recycled
products
if
we
can
alright.
So
what
I'm?
Thinking
with
this
is
that
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
kind
of
take
a
look
at
these
things
and
figure
out
how
we
might
want
to
modify
them
both
the
general
sustainable
sustainability
office
logo,
as
well
as
any
Commission
related
item
as
well.
So
if
you're
interested
in
having
being
part
of
that
conversation,
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
to
have
a
formal
ad
hoc
committee
to
do
that.
C
G
David,
just
a
quick
question:
did
you
get
any
feedback
from
either
legal
or
from
IT
about
whether
we
would
ever
have
City
email
addresses?
I
know
it's
been
discussed,
you
know
literally
two
years
ago
right,
but
you
know
the
wheels
turn
here.
So
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
any
updater
that
Ryan
wouldn't
forget
about
it.
So.
D
B
D
I
can
check
on
it
and
see.
I
know
that
it.
One
of
the
things
that
I
know
happened
was
that
somebody
requested
one.
Oh
I
know
what
it
was.
Somebody
requested
one
and
they
requested
that
it
be
tied
to
their
personal
email
account,
and
that
was
probably
not
gonna
happen.
So
so
I
know
that
that's
a
limitation
but
otherwise
I'll
check
on
whether
or
not
that
that
we
can
get
you
guys
an
email
address.
If
you
want
one
so.
C
A
Just
wanted
to
make
one
comment
about
the
logo
yeah
the
the
bags
that
we've
been
distributing
recently.
Lots
of
them
have
a
modification
of
pretty
much
the
standard
logo
with
the
mountain
and
the
palm
trees
and
I
think
it's
simplified
so
that
it's
easier
to
print
on
the
bags,
but
it's
still
consistent
with
things
that
we've
already
been
doing
right
and
actually
I'd
like
to
ask.
A
Also,
if
there's
been
some
discussion
about
business
cards,
there's
been
some
discussion
about
business
cards,
I'd
like
to
get
an
idea
of
how
many
people
might
want
to
get
business
cards
and
I'd
be
willing
to
do
some
work
on
that
as
well.
Once
we've
had
a
discussion
about
book,
the
logo,
okay,
anybody.
E
A
D
E
E
B
D
To
put
them
in
there
yeah,
and
so
the
other
thing
I
would
mention,
is
based
on
your
comment
about
the
bag.
Is
that
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
sometimes
have
in
printing
is
the
tiny
seal,
the
city
seal
that
is
integrated
into
our
logo?
So
that's
something
that
we
would
hope
to
fix
as
well,
so
all
right.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
take
part
in
that
conversation,
please
just
let
me
know
now
or
later,
okay,
all
right!
D
So
then
what
we'll
do
is
I'll
come
back
to
you
guys
with
some
some
options,
and
we
can
talk
about
that
in
further
detail
at
a
future
meeting.
And
then
the
only
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
that
again
kind
of
harkening
back
to
our
discussion
about
agenda
development,
we're
going
to
have
another
similar
conversation
around
product
development,
perhaps
at
the
next
meeting,
tuti
data
about
how
to
how
how
products
travel
like
from
subcommittees
to
the
Commission
and
then
on
to
the
council,
etc
so
anyway.
D
A
A
E
A
H
Evening,
I,
don't
really
have
much
to
report
other
than
our
next
shredding
event
will
be
held.
This
Saturday
8
a.m.
to
noon
out
in
the
front
City
Hall
parking
lot
and
it
will
be
held
in
conjunction
with
Palm
Springs
disposal
spring
cleanup,
but
I
thought
it
might
be
helpful
to
explain
what
I
do.
Some
people
may
not
know
what
I
do
or
new
members
may
be
interested
in
what
I
do
so
briefly,
I'd
like
to
go
over
a
couple
of
tasks
that
I
perform.
H
The
first
one
would
be
is
to
support
the
waste
solid
waste
management
agreement
and
by
that
that
has
actions
that
don't
directly
result
in
recycling
or
handling
solid
waste,
but
it
would
be
like
maybe
help
helping
with
an
ordinance
or
a
resolution
or
interacting
with
the
representatives
from
the
state
or
Riverside
County
or
other
agencies,
and
speaking
with
the
rotary
or
downtown
business
groups.
I've
done
that
in
the
past,
I
haven't
done
that
recently,
but
I
have
done
that
in
the
past.
H
The
next
thing
would
be
special
events,
and
in
this
case
we
have
three
shredding
events
each
year.
In
addition
to
that,
we
we
usually
man
a
booth
at
ps1,
the
Health
Expo
that
we
recently
had
tomorrow.
Daniel
Anaya
will
be
participating
in
the
Family
Fun
Fest
over
at
Angel
Stadium.
That's
where
the
kids,
while
they're
on
spring
break,
come
over
and
people
set
up
booths
and
they
have
a
little
petting
zoo
and
things
like
that.
H
So
it's
a
nice
activity
for
the
kids,
while
they're
on
the
spring
or
spring
break,
and
then
the
next
thing
I
would
do
would
be
reports.
The
biggest
one
is
the
annual
or,
and
it
usually
opens
around
June
15th
and
it
usually
do
around
August
first
and
what
that
does
is
that
report
is
very
detailed.
It's
pretty
lengthy
and
you
have.
The
city
has
several
elements.
What
they
call
elements
that
each
element
is
a
program
the
city
participates
in.
Do
we
buy
recyclable
products
for
our
office
supplies?
H
Do
we
have
vehicles
that
are
energy
efficient
vehicles,
things
like
that,
but
it
details
all
the
programs
regarding
solid
waste
and
recycling
that
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
participates
in
and
ns
do
every
year
and
it
goes
from
calendar
year.
So
the
report
that
will
be
due
around
1
August
will
actually
cover
calendar
year
2018.
H
H
1323,
that's
gonna,
be
the
overarching
one
but
I
go
out
and
and
try
to
stay
active
on
the
website
calorie
cycles
website
and
see
what
legislation
is
there
one
impact
it
may
have
to
with
the
city
and
in
the
case,
where
I
think
it
may
impact
the
city,
then
I
interact
with
like
Chris
Cunningham
or
someone
else
at
sea
bag
or
someone
that
may
have
knowledge.
That
I
think
would
be
helpful
to
help
us
progress.
Then
there
are
grants
right
now.
The
only
grant
that
I
really
do
is
the
beverage
container
grant.
H
But
in
the
past
there
have
been
grants
and
I
continue
to
search
and
if
there's
one
that
I
think
may
be
beneficial
to
the
city.
I
do
the
research
to
see
if
it
would
actually
be
applicable
or
if
we
should
even
bother
a
lot
of
these
grants
are
gear
to
much
larger
cities
and
municipalities,
and
we
just
don't
have
the
numbers
to
compete
with
a
lot
of
the
cities
like
San,
Diego
or
San
Francisco,
or
something
like
that.
I
do
a
B
341,
the
mandatory
commercial
recycling
site
business.
H
That's
probably
what
I
do
in
the
field,
the
most
of
and
I,
don't
so
much
go
and
speak
with
the
business
or
the
man
onsite
manager.
Unless
there's
a
problem.
What
I
do
is
I
go
check
the
bins,
make
sure
that
they're,
clean
and
in
good
working
order.
The
trash
is
with
the
trash
recycling
with
the
recycling
and
the
service
levels
of
being
kept
up.
That's
pretty
much!
H
What
I
do
if
I
encounter
a
problem,
then
I
will
go
in
and
speak
with
the
manager
or
the
business
owner
or
whomever
I
need
to
speak
with
I
support
the
sustainability
Commission,
sometimes
I
meet
with
commissioners.
Sometimes
I'm
asked
to
do
research
and
answer
in
questions
that
they
may
have.
C
and
D
visits,
construction
and
demolition
debris
visits.
We
don't
actually
have
an
ordinance
where
we
can
enforce.
They
are
bound
by
the
Green
Building
Code
and
the
levels
they're
currently
require
sixty-five
percent
recycling.
H
What
I
do
is
and
and
I
don't
make
a
point
to
search
them
out,
but
if
I'm
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
run
upon
one,
then
I
will
visit
with
them,
see
whose
bins
they're
using
if
they're
self
hauling
ask
them.
If
they're
taking
it
to
one
of
our
local
facilities,
some
people
haul
it
back
to
Riverside
County.
H
They
don't
know
so
just
get
the
knowledge
out
there
and
help
them
and
see
if
there's
any
way
that
we
can
facilitate
what
they're
doing
and
maybe
save
them
some
money
while
we're
at
it
and
then
the
last
thing
would
be
any
additional
tasks
like
I
service,
the
library
batteries,
the
police,
this
police
station,
for
whatever
recyclables
they
have
the
fire
stations,
Mizell
Senior
Center,
pretty
much
whatever
needs
to
be
done.
So
that's
pretty
much.
What
I
do
so
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions?
H
Yes,
desert
Ark
handles
re
waste
collection
and
they've
been
doing
it
for
about
the
last
two
years
and
they
will.
They
will
take
almost
anything.
I'm
surprised
what
they
take.
They'll
take
appliances
because
they,
when
they
take
them
down
to
in,
do
they
have
a
place
and
a
method
set
up
to
break
them
all
down
and
sell
the
constituent
parts.
But
yes,
they
answer
your
question.
You
can
bring
batteries
as.
H
Yes,
our
waste
hauler
plants
rains
disposal,
participates
in
a
program
and
that
program
was
set
up
two
or
three
years
ago.
What
it
is
is,
there's
an
organization
that
will
pay
the
waste
hauler
eight
to
twelve
dollars
per
mattress
depending
on
the
size,
so
the
waste
hauler
will
take
them
up
in
this
case
to
eat
them
he'll.
There
are
actually
bins
that
they
put
them
in
the
the
mattresses
and
then
when
the
bins
are
full.
H
E
E
H
D
So
I
would
just
add
two
things
to
what
Gary
mentioned.
One
is
that
we're
gonna
be
working
through
the
solid
waste
subcommittee
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
a
monthly
report
out
about
where,
where
waste
and
recycling
is
going
every
month,
so
that
we
can
have
that
data
on
a
rolling
basis,
so
we'll
be
working
with
you
guys
and
present
you
with
something
at
the
next
subcommittee
meeting.
D
H
Things
I
wanted
to
mention
if
there's
one
more
thing
that
I
may
add
that
I
forgot,
the
state
has
really
put
an
emphasis
on
ensuring
that
people
comply
with
a
b3
41
and
the
organics,
and
so
I've
been
supplied
with
a
list
of
those
that
are
not
currently
participating
and
I've
been
supplied
with
the
letter
that
was
sent
to
them.
This.
A
D
I
think
some
of
them
are
still
waiting
to
get
that
equipment,
but
I
did
have
talked
to
probably
four
or
five
people
who
have
who
people
complained
about,
and
so
I
called
the
companies
and
most
of
them
had
either
been
there
or
knew
about
it
and
we're
in
the
process
of
converting
over
so
I'm
really
pleased
to
know
that
that
worked
and
that
the
process
seems
to
be
taking
place.
Although
a
lot
more
slowly
than
some
people
would
care
to
care
to
have
happen
so
anyway.
D
So
we
filled
probably
I,
would
say
a
handful
of
calls
a
week
about
this,
probably
not
more
than
a
dozen
and
so
usually,
especially
the
last
two
weeks.
We've
been
able
to
follow
up
with
people
and
contact
them
and
figure
out
what's
going
on
so
anyway.
So
we're
planning
to
do
another
round
of
some
form
of
outreach.
D
So
one
is
that
we're
going
to
do
letters
to
all
residents
in
some
form
or
fashion
here
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
and
then
we
are
also
going
to
probably
have
another
radio
campaign
similar
to
what
we
did
to
announce
the
demonstration
day.
Just
as
a
reminder
to
everybody
that
fines
are
gonna
start
on
June
1st
and
that
they
need
to
convert
now,
so
so
to
just
reinforce
that
message.
D
So
that's
pretty
much
where
we
are
the
other
thing
that
I'm
going
to
request
from
the
company
that
hosted
the
demonstration
Day
as
well
as
Yoshi's
here
in
town,
just
some
information
about
from
them
about
how
many
people
have
placed
orders
and
things
like
that,
so
that
we
can
have
a
sense
of
how
many
how
much
people
are
converting.
So
so
we'll
do
that
and
then
also.
D
The
final
note
on
this
is
that
we
have
worked
with
the
enforcement
code
code
enforcement
people
and
do
plan
on
having
a
fairly
robust
enforcement
process
in
the
month
of
June.
So
they
have
dedicated
one
person
per
day
to
us
throughout
the
month
of
June
to
respond
immediately
to
requests,
which
is
something
that
they
have
not
done
before
so
anyway.
So
we'll
work
with
them
very
closely
during
the
month
of
June
to
make
sure
that
we
follow
up
with
people
and
start
issuing
fines
so
that
people
know
it's
real
so
about
that.
F
Been
in
contact
with
my
gardener
a
lot
about
this
and
and
it
seemed
like
a
wonderful
program
and
they
he
really
feels
like
the
word-
is
out
there
and
they're
still
on
a
learning
curve,
but
it's
a
very
exciting
thing
for
them,
and
it
I
I
just
want
to
congratulate
you
on
such
a
great
role.
That
I
think
more
is
always
good,
but
it's
so
far
so
good,
it's
been
pretty
impressive.
D
F
D
So
all
right,
so
that's
it
on
leaf
blowers,
the
household
battery
recycling
program.
We
were
able
to
order
the
equipment
that's
associated
with
collecting
and
shipping
the
batteries.
So
we've
got
all
that
equipment
in
place.
We
finalized
the
poster
information,
so
that
is
pretty
much
ready
to
go.
We're
just
finalizing
the
little
label,
that's
going
to
go
on
the
tubes
and
also
the
boxes
that
we're
gonna
give
people
to
have
them,
collect
them
at
their
homes.
D
So
once
that
is
finalized,
which
should
be
pretty
soon
we're
doing
it
through
a
company
and
the
person
was
out
this
the
first
part
of
this
week
so
anyway,
so
she's
back
tomorrow.
So
she
should
be
able
to
finalize
the
box
design
and
get
that
ordered.
So
that
should
be
probably
next
next
week
that
was
she.
We
should
get
that
in
so
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
roll
everything
out
pretty
much
before
the
next
one
PS
meeting,
but
by
the
end
of
the
month.
I
think.
F
D
I
An
update
currently
Stacey
Schaefer
had
good
that
we
cannot
plant
fruit,
cheese
on
city
parks
and
properties
because
it
attracts
animals,
it
leaves
debris
and
they're
prone
to
disease,
which
can
spread
to
other
trees
and
so
currently
open
to
any
suggestions
of
any
ornamentals
that
are
beautiful.
That
would
do
well
in
the
desert.
If
we're
going
to
be
planning
on
City
lens.
I
My
inquiry
was
to
see
if
we
could
plant
one
or
two
fruit
trees
at
the
community
garden
site,
because
we
already
have
food
and
it's
an
edible
garden
spot
and
so
and
Roy
I
had
a
good
point
that
there
is
irrigation
there,
so
it
seems
like
it
might
be,
might
be
easier
to
make
sure
that
those
trees
get
water.
So
that's
still
in
the
works
in
the
meantime,
just
to
celebrate,
Arbor
Day
I
will
be
collaborating.
I
However,
this
rolls
out
with
Rosso
Roma,
who
is
the
director
of
education
at
for
kids,
only
program
with
the
parks
and
recs,
and
they
will
be
at
Duluth
community
gardens
on
our
next
Wednesday
and
if
nothing
else,
we
will
be
planting
Moringa
seeds,
and
so
the
kids
will
get
to
take
those
home
and
you
know
sprout
their
own
seedlings.
My
question
also
is
possibly
if
Moringa
might
be
something
that
we
could
plant
as
a
medicinal
tree
that
wouldn't
be
considered
an
edible.
That
would
have
the
same
complications
as
fruit
trees.
I
A
C
A
D
I
did
do
just
a
little
exercise
in
here
as
to
whether
or
not
I
thought
these
were
kind
of
big
bigger
ticket
items
with
the
two
dollar
signs,
or
maybe
smaller
ticket
items
with
the
one
dollar
sign
just
as
a
ballpark
and
so
we're
still
working
through
our
budget
process.
So
I,
don't
I,
can't
share
a
lot
of
specific
numbers
with
you
yet
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
to
let
you
know
how
much
I
think
we
would
set
aside
for
certain
things
so
anyway.
D
D
One
of
the
biggest
ones,
I
think
is
going
to
be
our
compliance
with
SB
1383,
which
is
the
new
law
that
requires
us
to
divert
organics
from
landfills
and
again,
it's
being
passed
or
issued
as
an
error
regulation
and
so
they're
going
to
be
monitoring
carbon
related
emissions
and
diversions
for
that
so
anyway.
So
that
is
something
that
encompasses
a
variety
of
things,
including
ordinance,
development,
communications
and
outreach
enforcement,
all
kinds
of
different
things,
and
it
will
take
place
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
D
So
it
will
be
in
this
next
two-year
budget
cycle
in
some
form
or
fashion.
I
also
have
under
this
category
the
the
work
that
the
subcommittee's
have
been
doing
on
purchasing
and
replacing
or
adding
recycling
and
trash
containers
for
the
various
parts
of
the
the
city,
construction
and
demolition
debris
ordinance.
D
Although
the
last
time
we
talked
at
the
subcommittee
level,
that
seems,
like
things
are
happening
at
a
pretty
good
pace
there
and
then
broader
disposal
and
recycling
fee
structure
modifications.
So
again,
this
has
implications
for
SB,
1380
3.
It
has
implications
for
our
current.
The
current
way
that
we
we
structure
things
and
then
it'll
have
some
implications
for
the
contract
with
PSD
s,
which
we've
already
started
to
tee
up
with
them.
D
Outreach
engagement,
that's
over
the
next
couple
years:
the
new
Eevee
charging
strategy.
Again,
we've
gotten
some
funding
to
do
to
expand
our
Eevee
charging
network.
So
we've
gotten
that
through
the
state
and
then
we
also
had
a
little
bit
of
residual
money
that
we
need
to
use
up
from
another
grant
that
we
had
so
again
I'm
getting
the
word
out
about
the
changes
that
are
coming
about
that
really
identifying
the
locations
figuring
out
where
those
new
charging
stations
are
gonna,
go
figuring
out
what
sort
of
fee
structure
we're
gonna
have
associated
with
that,
etc.
D
So
so
again,
I
think
that
that
will
be
something
that
we'll
be
looking
into
and
doing
a
lot
more
with
probably
the
over
the
next
year
that
that
one's
a
more
near
term
effort,
greenhouse
gas
emissions
inventory
dan
and
I
have
started
to
sit
in
on
some
of
the
trainings
for
the
to
actually
conduct
one
of
those
for
the
city
actually
update
ours
for
the
city
and
so
we'll
be
engaged
in
that
effort.
Over
this
next
year
we
may
engage
the
consultant
to
help
us
with
that.
D
If
we
need
one,
then
progress
assessment
for
the
sustainability
plan.
This
is
probably
a
little
later
in
this
two-year
period,
but
we
do
want
to
be
looking
forward
to
an
update
to
the
sustainability
plan
and
that
that'll
be
something
that's
a
priority
for
us
and
I've
incorporated
some
some
funding
for
a
consultant
to
help
us
do
that.
D
Then
the
scooter
Bike
Share
ordinance,
if
that
comes
to
pass,
which
we'll
talk
about
that
at
the
council
meeting
tomorrow.
So
if
that
comes
to
pass,
that
will
be
a
fairly
significant
effort
and
undertaking.
So
again,
we'll
figure
that
out
after
that
meeting
tomorrow
and
figure
out
how
to
go
forward
with
that,
then
the
2020
residential
energy
requirements
are
coming,
and
so
we've
been
working
with
the
building.
Folks
on
that,
and
so
we
may
have
some
training
plan
for
four
people,
and
perhaps
some
communication
outreach
around
that
effort.
D
So
that's
either
way,
we'll
incorporate
some
money
for
a
turf
conversion
and
try
to
do
a
little
bit
of
communication.
Outreach
on
that
and
then,
let's
see
battery
recycling
program,
we
talked
about
that's
getting
underway,
desert
Community
Energy
that
one
is
still
in
process
and
so
there's
still
I
think
some
intention
that
palm
screenings,
Palm
Springs,
could
move
forward
with
a
CCA
in
2020
and
so
again
the
Commission
arms
are
the
City
Council
will
most
likely
talk
about
that
and
have
some
determination
on
that
topic
in
May
and
one
of
their
main
meetings.
E
This
looks
great
it's
good
to
do
some
structure
now,
I
understand
what
you're
gonna
do
the
one
that
popped
out
into
my
head
was
all
the
trash
ordnance
and
the
few
structures
yep
and
I'm
always
surprised
coming
from
San
Francisco,
where
we
get
a
little
tiny
bin.
But
here
it's
the
same
price
for
a
giant
bin
or
a
small,
been
in
San
Francisco.
E
You
pay
a
huge
penalty
for
a
giant
bin
I,
don't
know
I'm
sure
tariffs
go
a
lot
of
different
ways
whether
people
will
dump
trash
illegally,
but
it
seems
to
me
a
small
should
pay
less.
That
would
encourage
people
to
throw
away
more
trash,
but
that's
very
simplistic.
So
that's
the
only
thing
I
have
a
pops
out.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
D
I
would
envision
that
as
a
reassessment
process
and
so
depending
on
what
we
reassess
it'll
determine
what
that
product
is,
but
I'm.
Guessing
that
we
will.
We
want
to
revisit
all
of
those
things
and
figure
out
whether
or
not
they
make
sense
now
and
whether
or
not
to
continue
them
yeah
or
to
transform
them
in
some.
D
D
So
I
would
anticipate
that
that
kind
of
an
exercise
is
gonna,
start
late,
this
fiscal
year
into
the
next
fiscal
year.
So
our
current
strategic
plan,
a
sustainability
plan-
it
was
done
in
2016
and
so
2001
would
be
kind
of
the
five-year
mark
for
us
to
consider
revisiting
that.
So
that's
that
was
my
timeframe.
So.
C
All
right
just
to
follow
up
I,
think
it'd,
be
great.
I
think
doing
that
reassessment
is
great,
but
I
wonder
if
there
isn't
an
opportunity
to
do
a
little
bit
of
gap
identification
now
without
having
to
completely
revisit
the
plan
I'm.
If
there
a
couple
of
areas
that
seem
it
may
be
pressing
and
the
two
areas
that
seem
pressing
to
me-
and
you
know
this
is
this-
is
a
moment
to
throw
out
ideas
and
some
of
them
will
stick
and
some
of
them
won't.
But
Gary
was
mentioning
grant
opportunities
and
I,
don't
know.
C
If
we've
ever
investigated
grant
opportunities
for
composting
that
on
that
on
that
subcommittee,
but
I'll
throw
it
out,
there
maybe
sticks.
Maybe
it
doesn't.
The
other
area
was
just
a
small
economic
sustainability
item
so
but
but
I
agree
that
it's
great
to
see
it
all
laid
out
and
I'll
be
amazed
if
you
cuz,
it
is
a
lot,
but
thanks
for
thanks
for
putting
it
out
there
yeah.
D
A
C
D
All
right
anything
else,
anything
else
that
people
see
is
missing
or
good
all
right,
great,
so
we'll
move
forward
and
I'll
continue
to
focus
on
these
things,
and
we
will
have
further
discussions
about
funding,
available,
etc.
As
soon
as
we
get
our
budget
conversations
a
little
further
but
but
I'm
pretty
confident,
we
can
do
most
of
the
things
that
we've
identified
based
on
our
current
budget.
D
C
Sorry
can
I
make
one
more
I
didn't
point.
This
maybe
fell
off
our
radar
because
I
think
the
budget
item
is
no
longer
in
our
budget,
but
it
would
be
good
to
get
an
update
about
the
cogent
plant
at
some
point
this
summer,
I
believe
they
had
a
couple
of
milestones
coming
up
this
summer.
That's
a
small
item
but
I
just
don't
want
it
to
drop
off
the
radar
for
us.
Okay,.
D
D
A
B
Each
year,
for
the
past
several
years,
the
library
has
had
a
summer
reading
program
where
they
encourage
children
to
read
a
certain
amount
of
books
and
at
the
end
of
the
summer
they
for
they
they
turn
in
how
many
they've
read
and
then
there's
a
each
for
each
one.
They've
read
they
get
a
raffle
ticket
for
different
prizes
in
the
past
two
years
ago,
two
or
three
years
ago
we
did
it
they'd
only
think
they
gave
away
or
bicycles.
B
So
we
or
are
going
to
ask
this
year
for
someone
to
motion
and
provide
a
motion
to
go
for
four
hundred
dollars,
just
because
of
the
prices
are
going
up
on
everything.
So
this
also
includes
know
it
would
include
usually
an
adult,
a
child
and
a
small
child
bike,
along
with
the
helmets
to
go
with
those.
So
that's
that's
what
we're
asking.
A
C
B
Not
aware
that
local
businesses
have
giving
them
bikes,
they've,
given
electronics,
okay,
but
I
think
we're
the
only
ones
who
have
given
the
bikes
is
that
right,
I
believe.
A
That's
true:
I've
actually
been
there
for
three
years:
okay,
but
it's
the
other
major
sponsors,
the
Friends
of
the
library
and
they're,
the
ones
that
provide
electronics
and
other
other
types
of
things.
That
kids
like
these
days
and
having
said
that,
I've
been
there
three
times.
It's
it's
really
a
fun
event,
just
a
lot
of
parents
with
their
kids.
There,
the
kids
get
all
excited
and
they
allow
us
on
the
Commission
who
are
there
to
actually
pull
numbers
from
the
rotating
bin
and
it's
a
lot
of
fun
to
participate
in
that.
A
So
we
have
a
motion
made
by
Gregg
in
a
second
from
Jennifer,
all
in
favor
of
being
a
sponsor
for
the
bicycle
raffle.
Please
say:
aye
aye
opposed
no
carried
unanimously.
Thank
you,
okay.
Then.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
under
new
business
is
something
that
has
been
brought
up,
that
one
of
our
meetings
in
the
past
and
that's
an
amendment
to
the
Municipal
Code
that
has
been
recommended
by
1ps
and
it's
a
rather
simple
change,
which
would
allow
trash
and
recycling
containers
to
be
placed
on
the
curb
or
street
anytime
after
5:00
p.m.
A
F
E
A
C
So
I
support
any
motion
that
makes
it
easier,
for
you
know,
people
with
different
schedules
to
maintain
their
their
solid
waste.
I
also
think.
A
concern
that
isn't
addressed
here
is
that
trash
cans
don't
get
put
away
after
they
get
put
out
and
they
end
up
in
the
street
and
roll
over
and
blow
around,
but
I
think
it's
a
safety
hazard,
and
it's
also
a
bigger
issue.
You
know
was
also
an
issue,
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
too,
and.
A
I
can
respond
to
that
and
actually
when,
when
the
the
workgroup
for
the
code
enforcement
Public,
Works
Committee
was
discussing
this
one
thing
that
came
up
and
that
we
recommended
was
that
the
containers
be
kept
out
of
sight,
except
for
the
day
when
they
are
out
for
collection
that
doesn't
address.
You
know
a
few
hours
that
the
wind
might
blow
them
and
and
so
forth,
but
there
was
a
concern
about
containers
being
left
out
for
long
periods
of
time.
A
So
we
made
that
that
recommendation,
along
with
the
recommendation
about
these
hours,
to
put
four
pretty
containers
out.
It
turned
out
that
the
that
there
is
another
code
that
addresses
that
there's
a
zoning
code
that
addresses
that.
So
we
did
not
need
to
include
that
in
this
recommendation.
Actually
the
code
enforcement
and
Public
Works
Committee
lately
has
been
quite
active
in
discussing
that
that
that
zoning
ordinance
and
doing
a
lot
to
help
enforce
it.
In
fact,
there's
been
a
flier.
A
A
E
A
D
So
we
did
have
a
brief
conversation
about
this
at
the
last
meeting,
but
there
was
no
formal
motion
to
actually
form
an
ad
hoc
committee
to
help
with
this.
So
if
you
would
like
to
do
that,
then
then,
let's
put
something
formally
on
the
table
and
I
can
meet
with
those
people
and
and
help
Shepherd,
whatever
things
through
as
it
were.
E
D
E
So
so
we
have
Jane
and
there's
extra
the
bighorn,
sheep,
Institute
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
can
do
to
help
with
education.
So
you
know
things:
don't
get
out
of
hand
with
people
worried
about
the
losing
rights
over
their
dogs
and
I.
Think
this
is
important
that
we
kind
of
bring
them
in
a
little
bit
and
we've
got
she's
got
an
activated
group
of
folks
that
are
willing
to
report
back
to
us
just
now
and
that
I
think
would
be
casual.
E
C
C
D
Interestingly
complex
how
I
would
describe
it,
however,
I
will
say
that
I
will
probably
have
more
to
report
from
you
to
you
after
the
council
meeting
tomorrow.
So
I
may
have
some
more
information
about
what
we
can
move
forward
with
so
anyway,
so
we've
been
making
some
efforts
to
kind
of
identify
the
signage,
that's
there
and
figure
out
what
needs
to
change
and
all
that
good
stuff.
So
anyway,
so
I
might
have
them
work
for
me
for
you,
after
the
council
meeting,
so.
A
D
A
E
G
Clerk
just
and
it
is
that
there's
a
quirk
in
the
brown
act
that
there's
an
ad
hoc
subcommittee
even
includes
members
from
outside
or
Commission,
is
subject
to
the
Brown
Act.
It's
a
there's
an
exception
to
the
exception
on
that.
So
just
to
note
that
if
you
they're
meeting
they
would
have
to
be
brown
acted.
It's
a
it's!
A
bizarre
I'll.
Send
you
the
material
on
that,
but
it's
a
bizarre
exception
to
the
exception
to
the
project
interesting.
C
Not
volunteering
to
be
on
the
ad-hoc
committee,
but
I
do
recommend
that
someone
from
the
ad
hoc
committee
contact
the
folks
at
the
wildlands
Conservancy
that
managed
the
whitewater
preserved.
They
have
a
large
population
of
bighorn
sheep
there
and
have
dealt
with
a
lot
of
trouble
with
cattle
grazing
and
disease
transfer
and
have
lost
a
lot
of
bighorn
sheep
in
the
last
year
because
of
cattle
coming
out
of
those
lands
that
they
may
have
other
information
to
share
with
her
yeah
hoc
committee,
okay,
okay,
we.
E
A
E
E
E
A
G
The
default
option
would
be
the
100%
carbon
free
product,
which
would
be
priced
above
the
SC
based
product,
and
but
customers
will
also
be
able
to
offer
a
35
percent
renewable
option
and
that
would
be
priced
near
parity
with
the
current
IC
based
product
and
DC
is
also
moving
forward
with
the
creation
on
the
Community
Advisory
Committee
that
was
authorized
yesterday,
and
one
area
of
its
focus
will
be
outreach.
Programs
to
low-income
and
underserved
members
of
the
community.
G
We
discussed
in
our
committee
meeting
solar
preferences
or
policy
incentives,
and
they
would
require
further
analysis
both
in
terms
of
the
cost
and
pros
and
cons
of
GHG
emissions
effects.
So
I
think
I'm
likely
that
this
is
going
any
further
than
the
report.
I
think
that
he'll
probably
get
we've
answered.
The
question
raised
by
counsel
I
attended
a
webinar.
E
B
G
G
We
need
a
lot
of
more
insulation
and
energy
and
water
efficiency
for
cannabis
industry
facilities,
because
that's
probably
where
a
lot
of
the
growth
is
going
to
be
vice-chairman,
can
and
I
met
last
week,
and
we
made
further
good
progress
on
our
presentations
for
the
workshop
during
a
news
conference
on
May,
17th
and
I
mentioned.
Please
remember
to
register
for
the
conference
and
let
me
know
if
you're
interested
in
joining
either
the
desert
renewable
energy
or
dw8
tours
as
of
a
few
days
ago.
G
And
finally,
we
are
beginning,
as
Patrick
mentioned,
we're
beginning
work
with
m1
staff
on
the
electric
vehicle
charger
program
and
cities
receipts
from
grants,
and
so
we'll
have
to
look
at
exactly
where
the
locations
will
be
in
an
RFP
for
a
third
party
to
manage
the
program.
So
Lanigan
will
be
working
on
that
and
that's
it
for
a
long
list
of
projects.
We're
working
on,
but
we're
busy.
G
F
G
We've
done
for
the
last
two
years
and
we'll
do
it
again
in
the
fall
and
Robbie
will
probably
start
working
on
it
actively
in
the
next
month
or
so.
If
we've
had
valley-wide
training
programs.
So
the
last
one
was
I
believe
in
late
October
of
this
past
year
and
we
had
speakers
from
the
Energy
Commission
and
various
consultants.
So
we
haven't
exactly
seen
what
the
format
is,
but
it'll
likely
be.
It
will
definitely
be
valley-wide,
including
building
and
planning
staffs
from
all
of
the
valley,
cities
and
contractors,
whether
they're
based
in
Palm
Springs.
D
I
think
in
general,
we
try
to
coordinate
with
seabag
on
any
issues
that
are
valley
wide
or
have
a
broader
impact
than
just
the
just
the
city,
and
we
also
use
them
as
a
kind
of
a
conduit
for
perhaps
getting
more
funding
and
getting
different
funding
that
we
might
not
not
might
not
normally
get
as
just
the
city.
So
yeah.
J
J
The
first
one
is
that
we
should
always
pair
recycling
trash
containers
so
that
every
time
somebody's
in
a
public
park
and
goes
up
and
needs
to
dispose
of
some
waste,
they
have
a
decision
to
make
so
I
put
it
in
a
recycle
container
or
do
I
put
it
in
the
trash
container
to
help
them
along
with
that
decision.
The
second
guideline
was
to
differentiate
the
function
as
clearly
as
we
could
through
color
coding
labels
and
signage.
J
You
always
use
blue
for
recycle
containers
and
brown
or
black
for
trash
containers
and
include
clearly
written
and
graphical
signage.
So
so
those
are
the
recommendations.
In
the
last
month
we've
been
going
out
and
surveying
all
of
the
existing
waste
containers
in
all
of
our
public
parks
and
we've
completed
a
database
that
includes
a
description
for
each
container
of
its
outstanding
characteristics,
its
color.
What
shape
it
is
whether
it
has
any
signage
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
and
also
its
geographical
location
and
then
lat/long
coordinates.
J
One
of
our
biggest
challenges
to
to
recommending
that
they
always
be
paired
with
recycle,
is
that
there
are
only
34,
recycle
containers
in
the
parks
and
and
if
you
do
your
arithmetic,
there's
approximately
100
trash
containers
that
are
not
paired
up
or
could
not
be
paired
up
with
recycle
containers
at
the
moment.
So
we
are
I'm.
J
J
Second,
major
challenge,
which
is
a
different:
the
function
and
use
blue
for
recycle
and
black
for
trash
is
a
plethora
of
situations
across
our
different
parks.
It
turns
out
that
DeMuth,
for
example,
has
over
50
trash
containers
and
virtually
every
one
of
them
is
either
a
cylinder
or
a
cube.
That's
blue,
so
and-
and
there
are
cases
where
there
are
paired
up
our
new
recycle
containers
that
we
bought
last
year,
they're
paired
up
with
these
existing
blue
trash
containers,
and
so
that's
that's
very
confusing.
So
so
we've
got
lots
of
challenges
there.
J
What
to
do
about
that?
Perhaps
we
can
retrofit
some
of
the
trash
containers
and
paint
them
a
different
color
and
get
the
signage
on
them.
So
we're
going
to
be
discussing
all
that
at
the
subcommittee
meeting.
I'll
just
leave
you
with
one
more
challenge.
Last
year
the
city
put
in
about
30
new
trash
containers,
their
cylinders
and
their
bright
glue.
Unfortunately,
most
of
them
are
in
DeMuth,
there's
about
25
of
the
men
that
are
in
DeMuth
and
unlike
the
clusters
that
I
was
telling
you
about
the
legacy
blue
trash
containers
in
DeMuth.
J
These
ones
are
more
orphaned,
they're,
more
scattered
around
the
park,
with
nothing
around
them.
So
more
interesting
questions
then
get
developed
like
what
is
the
rate
that
these
ones
are
filled
up
and
and
maybe
the
best
solution
there,
what
might
be
to
keep
them
where
they
are
and
REE
designate
them
as
recycle
containers,
rather
than
trash
containers
and
pair
them
up
with
a
trash
container.
That's
appropriate,
so
I,
don't
know
the
answers
to
a
lot
of
these
questions.
They're
just
bubbling
up
now
as
a
result
of
having
done
this
survey.
E
J
Have
the
cardboard
one,
so
let
me
address
that
a
little
add
my
experience
with
the
parks.
Just
is
not
great,
but
in
DeMuth
again
there
are
so
many
sporting
venues
that
the
baseball
diamonds
and
so
I
think
that
they've
got
what
you
would
call
special
events
in
terms
of
a
lot
of
people
being
in
the
parks.
It's
probably
seasonal,
but
there's
a
lot
of
people
there
virtually
every
weekend.
The
the
special
events
is
a
different
issue.
J
J
We
have
a
problem
there,
because
virtually
every
portable
container
that's
brought
out
is
a
recycle
container.
It's
not
a
trash
container,
and
so
they
told
me
that
yeah
people
were
just
throwing
their
trash
into
these
recycle
containers.
So
it's
a
it's
another
special
class
of
issue.
I
think
is
the
big
specialty
goods,
but,
but
more
generally,
do
we
need
60-odd
trash
containers
into
muth
in
the
summertime.
How?
How
much
are
they
used?
How
much
go
to
barista
park?
Barista
is
an
interesting
little
park.
J
You
know
on
the
way
to
downtown
it
has
six
trash
containers,
six
concrete
trash
containers
and
you
just
wonder
what
how
how
frequently
are
they
filled
up?
Could
we
afford
to
maybe
take
a
couple
of
those
out
and
and
just
keep
the
remaining
ones
as
stations
with
recycled
containers
that
are
paired
with
them?
I
just
don't
know
the
answers
to
these
questions.
C
J
Can
there
are
several
that,
and
especially
the
concrete
ones
that
we
think
could
be
easily
repainted
and
and
then
that
would
work
and
to
move
there's
typically
in
the
other
parts,
the
big
ones
sunrise
and
Ruth,
hardy
they're
green.
So
that's
not
a
good
color
for
trash,
but
a
game
there
concrete
and
they
could
easily
be
repainted.
I.
Think
there's
there's
about
ten
across
all
the
Park
snail
that
are
already
co-located
with
one
of
our
new
blue
receptacles.
C
J
They
the
containers
that
we
ordered
last
year
and
that
we're
considering
ordering
more
of
them
with
this
year's
money
are
just
beverage
disposal,
recycle
containers
where
we'll
probably
have
to
have
different
containers
for
downtown,
where
paper
might
be
more
likely
to
be
put
in.
But
but
the
answer
is
yes,
there's
there's
containers
now
that
we
can
use
them,
then
we're
gonna
be
purchasing
work,
but.
A
I
J
You
could
you
it's
possible
that
we
could
yeah
take
those
blue
ones
and
signage
and
lids.
Those
would
be
the
two
things
that
we
would
need,
but
after
that
yeah
they're
already
blue,
so
that's
another
option
would
be
to
turn
some
of
them
into
recycle
containers.
With
with
this,
with
these
additions
yeah.
Another
interesting
challenge
for
us
would
be
okay.
Oh
then,
where
would
you
do
that
and
which
ones
would
you
just
paint
and
leave?
As
you
know,
paint
black
and
leave
as
trash
containers.
A
F
Basically,
the
study
that
I'm
doing
is
the
Palm
Springs
end
waste
management,
investigation
goals,
I
have
a
draft
one
on
that,
but
we've
had
a
little
misunderstanding
among
us
and
I'll
be
discussing
that
internet
next
subcommittee
meeting.
So
we
can
clarify
that,
but
I
would
like
to
show
you
share
with
you
the
research
that
I've
done
to
date.
F
I
will
omit
my
PowerPoint
from
landfilled
back
to
Simon's,
due
to
my
type
5
minute
constraint,
background,
obviously
robson
working
tirelessly
on
these
recycling
stations
in
public
parks,
but
we
all
recognize
that
there's
a
need
for
accurate
signage,
and
that
is
a
moving
target
at
this
time.
There
are
two
main
challenges:
when
is
the
loss
of
markets
both
in
China
due
to
the
China's
national
sword
policy
and,
most
importantly,
in
the
United
States,
because
the
Chinese
market
was
always
going
to
be
non
non
sustainable?
We
need
our
own
markets
here.
F
The
second
challenge
is
in
contamination
and
I'd
get
more
into
that
a
little
bit
later
on.
So
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
note.
This
is
not
about
food
a
green
way,
so
it's
not
composting
or
bio
digestion.
It's
not
about
toxics
batteries,
appliances
or
e-waste,
but
it
is
everything
about
methane
and
carbon
dioxide.
F
So
we'll
go
straight
to
the
end
stream.
That
is,
our
landfill
99%
of
Palm
Springs
metropolitan,
solid
waste
ends
up
in
Lantana
in
Beaumont.
In
2017
there
were
10
million
tons
of
waste
in
place
in
2018
Palm
Springs
alone
contributed
80
thousand
tons
and
that
over
the
previous
3
years
have
been
has
been.
Not
it's
been
rising
greatly,
not
exponentially,
but
it's
definitely
on
the
rise,
not
too
much
of
a
surprise.
F
F
F
F
They
are
looking
for
a
team
who
is
interested
in
installing
and
operating
Latin
landfill
gas
beneficial
project,
either
at
lamb,
and/or
Badlands
in
the
next
six
months.
There
is
grant
application
coming
up
for
that,
so
I'm
gonna
stop
with
that.
I'm
gonna
go
back.
You
know,
I'm
gonna,
recycle
back
to
recycling
and
with
our
tonnage
that
goes
to
one
of
the
MuRF
Smurfs,
our
material
recovery
facilities.
We
have
four
of
them
and
they
are
PSVs.
F
Garbage
goes
from
Edom
hill
gets
packed
into
the
large
trucks
and
goes
to
one
of
those
four.
So
if
one
of
them
happens
to
be
closed
one
day,
it
goes
to
another
one.
In
any
event,
the
non
recycled
material
that
goes
down
the
conveyor
belt
are
that's
called
residuals
and
I'll
be
asking
for
the
number
of
residual
loads
that
are
then
going
to
the
landfill.
This
is
just
from
Palm
Springs,
but
the
our
average
contamination
rate
is
twenty
to
thirty
percent
total
tonnage.
F
F
F
However,
it's
none
of
it
as
being
recycled
into
new
product,
it's
all
being
stored
by
the
state.
They
must
have
a
big
warehouse
now
as
far
as
well.
We
can't
actually
recycle
we're
down
to
about
a
half
dozen
items.
Now
this
is
moving
tar.
It's
not
set
in
stone,
not
by
any
means,
but
we
have
number
one
P
et
it's
a
resonance
plastic
resin.
We
have
number
two
HD
PE.
F
Excuse
me,
the
high-density
cardboard
is
doing
pretty
well
with
Amazon
and
cans
the
the
jury's
out
on
mix
paper.
This
would
be
mixed
paper,
aerosol
cans
and
glass.
The
problem
with
glass
is
not
only
isn't
there
is
there's
not
a
site
to
recycle
it,
but
also
glass
is
a
horrific
contaminant
when
it
goes
into
a
truck
filled
with
whatever.
If
it's
going
to
delay
it,
it
has
to
go
to
landfill.
F
A
broken
glass
has
to
go
to
landfill
automatically
and
gary
told
me
a
incredible
story
about
the
composted
material
that
was
found
to
have
ultimately
glass
shards
that
was
laid
out
on
the
Palm
Springs
football
field,
I
guess
it
was,
and
then
they
had
to
take
it
all
up.
So
it's
a
problem.
How
that's
going
to
be
dealt
with
is
up
in
the
air
and
I'm
talking
to
Chris
Cunningham
about
that.
No.
E
F
For
plastic
bags,
unless
you're
taking
him
to
Ralph's,
sorry
to
say
no
number,
five
yogurt
containers
I'm
not
going
to
yogurt
anymore
number,
six
styrofoam,
it's
recyclable,
but
it's
highly
toxic.
It
should
not
be
recycled
and
when
this
part
of
the
reason
why
we
got
to
get
this
right
is
not
just
because
people
putting
things
in
the
garbage
can
it's,
because
when
they
see
that
they
can't
they
can't
be
recycled
people.
There's
a
lot
of
responsible
people,
who'll
go
to
the
grocery
store
and
will
buy
their
eggs
instead
of
in
a
styrofoam
cotton
carrier.
F
They
will,
you
know,
they'll,
buy
it
in
your
cardboard.
Lined
paper
cups
like
coffee
cups,
cartons
cartons,
like
my
my
husband,
gets,
never
trying
to
say
soy,
milk
from
Costco
and
cartons.
Nope
doesn't
work,
can't
do
mix
mixed
media
frozen
vegetable
containers.
None
of
these
are
recyclable.
That's
a
done
deal
okay.
So
the
latest
commit
commodities
report
it's
coming
out
this
week.
F
The
last
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
proper
preparation,
because
how
this
is
prepared
makes
all
the
difference
in
the
world
and
whether
or
not
there's
contamination
but
I,
don't
have
time
for
that
I'm
sure.
Unless
you
have
questions
on
it,
I
could
go
into
it,
I
put
in
Spanish
and
in
English
an
original.
F
This
was
actually
these
pictures
originally
came
from
Burrtec
and
I
copied
them
too.
You
know
for
the
1ps
picnic,
but
on
there
it
shows
the
things
that
cannot
be
recycled
have
to
be
moved
over
to
the
other
column,
the
things
where
the
jury's
out
and
it's
it's
a
work
in
progress
anyway.
That's
it
do
you
have
any?
Oh
one
last
thing
on
this
list
of
preparation
check
with
your
local
recycling
program,
must
update
and
create
and
debate
and
collaborate
I
just
added
those
tonight.
So
that's
all
I
have
thank
you
very
much.
Any
questions.
F
F
F
I
would
advocate
correcting
the
list
being
realistic,
showing
what,
where
there's
actually
a
market
and
and
having
a
very
big
campaign,
educating
people,
because
this
isn't
gonna
change
in
five
years.
This
is
it's
gonna
take
a
while
Viet
markets.
It
will
be
a
little
bit
of
a
moving
part
target,
but
I
bet
we
could
get
a.
We
get
at
least
a
three-month
list,
if
not
a
six-month
list
and
I
think
we
need
a
big
campaign
to
clean
up
our
act,
including
all
this
preparation
stuff,
which
I
haven't
even
gotten
into
that.
J
A
A
C
F
D
C
C
D
Exactly
so
so,
just
as
a
kind
of
a
follow-up
to
our
last
conversation
last
month,
I
did
take
what
the
feedback
that
you
guys
provided
on
the
preferences
in
the
different
areas
for
the
scooters
and
incorporated
that
into
the
staff
report.
That
then
went
to
the
Commission
or
the
the
the
into
the
the
staff
report
for
the
council
meeting
tomorrow.
So
anyway.
So
that's
where
that
ended
up
there.
We
did
include
some
in
the
minutes
as
well.
So
the
summary
of
that
conversation
was
in
the
minutes
as
well.
D
So
that's
we'll
see
how
that
conversation
goes
tomorrow.
We
did
get
one
public
request
for
information
on
the
letters
of
support
for
scooters,
but
that's
really
all
that
we've
heard
so
far
about
that
issue,
but
I'm
guessing
that
there
will
be
some
folks
turned
out
tomorrow
to
give
their
opinions
and.
C
F
D
Basically,
what
what
I
was
doing
was
preparing
a
report
for
the
council
and
so
that
debate
on
it
is
is
wide
open.
So
so,
if
you've
got
additional
comments,
feel
free
to
give
them
to
me
provide
them
to
Council
tomorrow
at
the
meeting
and
so
that
yeah
so
nothing's
been
decided
on
that
front.
And
tomorrow's
item
is
a
discussion
item
so
I
don't
know
that
they're
voting
on
anything
per
se
at
that
meeting,
but
I
think
they're
doing
it
to
have
the
conversation
around
the
options
and
get
some
input
from
the
public.
So
thank.
F
A
And
I
just
like
to
go
back
to
safe
routes
to
schools
within
the
code
enforcement
and
Public
Works
Committee,
which
I
referred
to
earlier,
there's
been
a
lot
of
activity
in
the
past,
relating
to
walkability
and
pedestrian
and
bicyclist
safety
and
so
forth
and
Christine
Hammond
has
been
behind
a
lot
of
that
and
she's
interested
in
participating
in
anything
any
starting
or
ongoing
discussions
with
regard
to
safe
routes
to
schools.
D
I
We
have
two
more
of
our
films,
the
next
the
third
one
is
next
week,
April
25th,
it's
called
the
Serengeti
rules
with
new
knowledge
comes
new
hope,
you'd
like
to
come
for
5:30
p.m.
wine-tasting.
It's
organic
wine
with
any
Arnold
at
6:00
p.m.
the
Living
Desert.
Its
wildlife
on
wheels
will
be
there
and
then
at
7
p.m.
is
the
screening
of
the
film
and
for
May,
it's
May
30th
the
need
to
grow,
and
it
looks
like
that.
I
Every
one
of
those
is
the
organic
wine
tasting,
so
I,
wouldn't
I
would
love
to
see
some
of
you
guys
come
if
you
could
and
spread.
The
word
I'll
be
posting
on
Facebook
and
different
sites.
If
any
of
you
want
to
spread
the
word,
if
you're
on
Facebook
or
other
social
media
or
other
ways
just
to
get
people,
there
I
think
it's.
It's
such
a
great
thing
that
we're
offering
and
it's
I
mean
that's
really
rare-
that
you
get
anything,
that's
free
and
we
sponsored
it.
B
A
A
I
E
D
E
D
E
D
So
the
they
did
a
little
more
investigating
into
the
issue
at
the
curve,
which
was
the
timing
of
the
lights
to
go
south
on
South
Palm
Canyon
there
it's.
He
said
after
looking
into
this.
It
appears
that
the
only
thing
activating
the
life
for
the
dedicated
right
turn
lane
is
the
pedestrian
push
buttons
at
the
crosswalk.
It
appears
that
there
is
no
way
for
the
signals
at
the
intersection
to
know
a
cyclist
wants
to
turn
left
from
Bilardo
on
to
South
Palm
Canyon.
D
Also,
the
that
movement
requires
a
cyclist
across
two
lanes
of
traffic,
from
a
complete
stop
which
takes
longer
and
as
a
cyclist
report,
the
vehicles
are
taking
the
right
turn
at
a
high
speed.
So
it's
not
something
that
can
be
solved
by
just
tinkering
with
the
light
timing.
So
that's
a
little
bit
different
I
think
than
we
had
heard
previously,
so
so
that
one
may
require
was
further
conversation
with
them
to
kind
of
figure
out
an
answer
to
that.
D
The
second
one
was
requesting
that
staff
investigated
full
green
bike,
lane
down
Bilardo
from
Ramon
to
Alejo
and
provide
input
on
feasibility,
and
so
the
city.
The
answer
is,
the
city
is
not
set
up
to
maintain
such
a
green
bike
lane
and
we
need
to
have
an
outside
striping
company
just
to
clean
it
and
maintain
it.
Also.
There
are
a
couple
of
the
newly
installed
green
box
with
bike
lane,
legends
that
are
not
holding
up
and
we've
asked
the
contractor
to
fix
it
under
warranty
twice.
D
We
can
look
into
the
cost
of
maintenance
further,
but
don't
have
any
new
information
to
report
at
this
time.
So
that's
that
one
then
the
third
request
was
staff
shall
confirm
the
revamp
at
Indian.
Canyon
will
include
bike
lanes,
arrows
and
signs
indicating
the
street
will
include
a
class
three
bike
lane
and
the
answer
was
sharrows
Caltrans,
a
2
4
C
standard
with
background
and
our
411
bike
may
useful.
Lane
signage
are
part
of
the
project,
so
that
was
confirmed.
D
Then
the
last
one
was
requested.
Indian
Canyon
include
a
full
protected
painted
bike
lane
at
the
time
of
next
major
capital
project,
so
the
answer
was
well
not
aware
of
a
future
project.
At
this
time,
the
general
plan
identifies
Indian
Canyon
from
Camino
para
para:
Sela,
to
a
Laiho
Road
to
be
a
class
3
bike
lane
and
Indian
Canyon
from
tahquitz
to
racquet
club
as
an
existing
class
3.
E
D
I
will
just
update
you
a
little
bit
on
the
bike
guide,
so
we
did
have
to
do
a
reprint
of
the
current
bicycle
map
just
to
film
needs.
So
we
had
actually
a
bunch
of
requests
that
came
in
this
past
month,
and
so
we
got.
We
ordered
about
I,
think
1500
2000
more
to
restock
some
of
the
current
facilities
that
we're
carrying
them,
and
then
we
this
fall.
I
C
I
I
sent
out
to
about
60
organizations,
so
hopefully
we'll
hear
back
from
most
of
them
soon.
We
have
about
ten
that
have
replied
that
they're
coming
we'll
be
following
up
with
well.
I
will
be
following
up
with
phone
calls.
I
think
we
all
are
going
to
be
reaching
out
personally
as
well
as
you
know
electronically,
and
we
had
over
thirty
last
year.
So
hopefully
we'll
have
something
similar.
I
One
of
our
challenges,
I
think
with
having
the
pavilion,
is
that
it's
such
a
large
space
and
it
always
feels
no
matter
if
there's
a
few
hundred
people
there
at
one
time
or
not,
it
feels
rather
empty.
So
we've
been
working
with
Flo
bak
circus
arts
for
the
last
seven
years,
Jenna
and
her
crew
and
what
they
have
for
this
amazing
air
theme
is
a
20
by
20
foot,
aerial,
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
the
structure
looks
like
I.
I
I
I
If
any
of
you
have
other
connections
with
the
media
to
get
them
somehow
to
share
this
information,
so
we
get
as
many
people
as
we
can
to
the
event
on
June
2nd.
That
would
be
excellent
and
I
also
have
an
update
on
the
environmental
art
contest
which
previously,
for
the
last
15
years,
I've
run
as
a
Creek
environmental
art
contest
and
because
Creek
is
no
longer
functioning
as
the
way
that
it
has
from
California
Department
of
Education
and
I.
I
Think
all
of
you
know
I've
shared
that
I'm,
not
I'm,
just
a
contact
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
hired
as
a
coordinator
any
longer
so
I
work
with
an
organization
called
the
environmental
education
collaborative
of
Riverside
and
San
Bernardino,
so
we
serve
both
counties.
So
I
asked
our
board
if
we
could
make
it
an
IEC
offering
and
so
that
we'll
be
opening
it
up
a
little
bit
farther
because
previously
it
had
been
called
the
Coachella
Valley
environmental
art
contest,
and
now
we
had
submissions
from
across
region.
Ten,
but
I
think
it's
it'll
make
it
more
interesting.
I
G
Okay,
a
few
things
from
this
morning's
TWA
board
meeting.
First,
there
are
public
hearings
yesterday
in
desert
hot
springs
in
this
morning's
part
of
the
regular
board
meeting
on
potential
district
maps
for
on
the
selections
beginning
on
November,
20
20,
and
the
final
map
should
be
adopted
by
July,
2nd
good
news
because
of
all
the
rain.
G
Last
few
months,
TWA
and
customers
achieved
a
twenty
point:
five
percent
reduction
in
potable
water
production
in
March
compared
with
the
same
month
in
2013,
and
the
cumulative
savings
over
the
last
twelve
months
as
well
as
since
the
program
began
in
June.
2016
is
17
percent,
so
10
to
13
percent
target
and
17
percent
actual
savings
with
that's
very
good,
see
if
that
keeps
up.
After
all,
the
rains
and
finally,
dvwa
is
finalizing
an
update
to
its
exchange
agreement
with
a
metropolitan
water
district
under
which
CWA
exchanges
its
shares.
G
So
the
if
you're,
a
residential
customer
DWA,
will
give
you
a
dollar,
but
you
can
apply
for
the
state
for
another
dollar,
but
so
it
doesn't
really
make
sense
for
us
to
use
it
for
residential,
but
you
know
potentially
for
targeted
for
HOAs,
so
to
help
them
out,
because
they
they
don't
get
as
many
rebate.
We
made
possibilities
and
I
think
we're
out
of
good
savings.
Gonna
be
done
there
anyway,
love
to
work
with
you.
Okay,.
G
There's
a
it's
a
fairly
lengthy
report.
That's
part
of
the
materials
and
Patrick
I
can
send
you
this
those
pages,
but
it's
really
geeky
even
for
me,
but
the
the
key
thing
is
that
it
sort
of
clarifies
who
can
hold
back
water
a
call
back
water
when
and
also
sort
of
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
in
terms
of
storage
with
the
problem.
Actually
a
good
problem
to
have.
G
Is
it
rained
a
lot
two
years
ago
and
it
rained
a
lot
this
year
and
so
there's
actually
more
water
in
the
system
than
they
can
use.
We
probably
read
about
the
Oroville
spillway
having
been
used,
so
it's
a
good
program
problem
to
have,
but
they
need
to
work
with
mwd
on
flexibility
of
where
it's
going
to
be
stored
and
things
like
that,
but
it's
it'll
be
through
2035,
and
so
they
generally
are
quite
positive
about
it.
Wi
thanks
David.
G
The
problem
is
that
there's
no
yeah
I
it's
a
facetious,
but
the
problem
is
then.
This
is
the
problem
from
literally
60
years
ago.
Is
we
are
not
in
the
Coachella
Valley
connected
to
the
State
Water
Project?
That's
all.
It
stops,
basically
at
Lake,
Paris
and
Diamond
Valley
Lake
out
in
western
Riverside,
and
the
final
sort
of
the
the
missing
mile
link
was
never
built
over
the
pass
over.
You
know
to
here.
So
this
is
why
we
pay
for
the
State
Water
Project
up
in
the
in
the
Delta.
G
We
get
not
a
drop
of
water
from
Northern
California,
our
water
all
comes
from
the
Colorado
River
and
then
the
exchange
agreement
is
Mets
swaps,
part
of
their
Colorado
River
water
for
the
DWA
and
Siva
WD
allocation
of
state
water.
So
we
get
it
out
of
their
Colorado
River
supply,
which
of
course,
was
the
aqueduct
that
Patton
built.
You
know
they
went
long
run
those
times
in
the
30s,
that's
where
our
water
comes
from,
and
then
it
just
falls
out
with
the
aqueduct
into
the
percolation
ponds
by
the
freeway.
D
So
I
would
just
emphasize
what
you
mentioned,
which
is
that
we
do
not
get
our
water
from
the
aquifers
that
are
underneath
Palm
Springs
in
the
Coachella
Valley,
which
is
a
myth
that
gets
perpetuated
far
and
wide
in
this
community.
And
so
we
get
our
water
from
the
Colorado
River,
which
is
piped
over
mountains
and
dales.
And
you
know
various
many
miles
and
so
anyway,
so
that
it's
a
great
be
thinking
about
how
that
negotiation
process
Hanna
the
proceeds
and
the
fact
that
we
are
part
of
that
process.
So
I'll.
G
B
F
Remember,
I'm
sure
you
do
too.
It
was
a
few
years
back
when
Ian
James
did
the
investigative
reporting
where
they
actually
the
aquifer
levels
were
measured
and
it
showed
you
know,
a
marked
decrease
and
in
fact
yeah
water
was
being
pumped
from
the
aquifer
at
that
time.
I.
What
happened?
You
mean
it's
not
being
fun
from
the
aquifer
anymore
anyway,
cuz
we've
never
heard
any,
because
you
know,
and
it
made
it
illegal
to
expose
that
information,
and
so
we've
never
really
gotten
in
follow
up
on
that.
The.
G
So
that's
pretty
much
brought
ours
up,
but
that
sort
of
sits
under
Palm
Springs
and
the
issue
which
CVWD
folks
are
working
on
is
to
bring
more
water
from
the
Colorado
River
through
their
pipelines
into
Mid,
Valley
and
I
believe
they're
doing
some
additional
pipeline
work
that
goes
from
I
think
the
all-american
canal,
which
is
their
access
via
sort
of
the
iid
area
into
Mid
Valley.
So
that's
where
the
biggest
problem
was
in
the
area
of
sort
of
LaQuinta.
G
You
know
Indian
Wells,
largely
our
aquifer
is
doing
much
better
because
of
all
the
water
coming
through
in
the
in
the
in
the
percolation
ponds.
There
is
a
huge
process
that
you
may
have
read.
It
read
about
called
Sigma
sustainable
groundwater
management,
I
guess
act,
and
that
means
that
around
the
state,
all
of
the
groundwater
aquifers
have
to
be
balanced
by
2040
and
they're
working
on
a
plan
which
they
have
to
submit
to
the
state
authorities.
So
work
is
being
done
on
that.
But
it's
you
know
it's
a
long
process.
I
I
So
after
I
finished
teaching
in
the
morning,
I'm
gonna
go
and
see
if
I
can
make
any
other
new
contacts
for
World
Environment
Day
and
maybe
promote
our
film
festival
and
those
films-
and
you
know
I'm,
just
working
on
Arbor
Day
and
if
you
guys
have
any
ideas
of
trees,
definitely
open
to
suggestions
for
that
and
just
keep
plugging
away
with
World
Environment
Day
staff.
So
once
we
have
the
poster
I'm
hopeful
that
you
all
will
help
share
that
as
well,
and
so
we're
just
trying
to
get
all
those
materials
ready
to
start
blasting
out.
J
What
I
think
is
one
of
the
major
resources
of
the
valley,
which
is
the
night
sky,
and
it
just
gets
more
and
more
light
polluted
all
the
time
we
we've
never
had
that
as
an
action
item
with
this
commission,
but
I
just
want
to
bring
up
that
I
would
sure
be
interested
in
pursuing
that
if
anybody
else
was
as
well,
there
are
ordinances,
I
think
with
cities
like
Tucson
that
are
probably
more
strenuous
and
the
ones
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
I
should
wish.
We
had
the
most.
He
was
ordinance
emanation.
E
Yeah,
it's
in
response
for
ever
I,
see
more
and
more
landscape
lighting
and
I,
don't
and
the
lights
are
getting
brighter
and
brighter
and
brighter
our
neighbor
to
split
their
plum
trees
up
and
it's
spectacular.
But
you
know
it's
hard
for
me
to
make
an
argument
that
well
you
shouldn't
do
that
without
saying
something
to
point
out.
You
know
be
nice
to
have
a
something
on
the
website
or
something
that
explains
the
night
skies
and
why
it's
important
upon
the
spring,
so
I'd
be
interested
in
talking
with
you,
some
more
about
that
Thanks.
G
Nothing
further
to
report
you've
got
though
the
work
plan,
so
it'll
probably
be
another
two
to
three
months
before
we
have
something
formal
for
Commission.
You
know
adoption
so
but
we'll
be
working
in
committee
along
those
matters
that
I
have
mentioned:
Thank
You,
Lonnie.
F
For
your
direction
and
this
attachment
a
it,
not
only
tells
what
you
need
to
do,
but
it
tells
when
things
weren't
done
the
way
they
should
have
been.
It
is
the
city
of
Palm,
single
sustainability,
Commission
agenda
development
process,
primer,
the
primer
and
so
I
realized
that
actually
there
are
a
lot
of
things.
I
was
doing
right,
but
not
everybody's
read
this
know
that
everybody's
getting
the
memo
so
I
appreciate
it.
A
C
I
D
D
Perhaps
so
what
we're
thinking
about
doing
was
doing
a
special
study
session
for
that
maybe
be
before
the
next
meeting,
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
sense
of
whether
or
not
people
would
be
interested
in
doing
a
study
session
on
that
and
perhaps
doing
it
before
the
next
sustainability
Commission
meeting,
maybe
the
hour
before
something
that
makes
sense.
Yes,
yes,.
D
Purpose
would
be
to
clarify
the
positions
on
that
particular
issue
and
clarified
the
issue
I
think
there,
a
lot
has
been
said
around
the
issue
and
so
I
think
this
would
be
an
opportunity
to
hear
kind
of
what
the
various
arguments
are
and
what's
actually
being
proposed.
So
that's
that's
the
intent
and.
D
D
A
D
D
C
D
C
You
know
certainly
the
Wildlife
Conservation
Board
would
be
an
agency
that
they're
working
on
the
whole
south
side
of
the
Salton
Sea
and
the
wetlands
down
there
and
potentially
someone
from
the
resources
agency
also
great.
But
they
would
likely
have
to
participate
by
like
a
go-to
meeting
and
the
PowerPoint
right.