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We
are
waiting
on
a
part,
but
we
actually
have
been
up
the
better
part
of
off
and
on
for
the
last
four
months,
we've
seen
some
really
good
performance
and
some
starting
to
see
the
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel,
some
of
our
recuperation
of
some
of
our
electrical
costs
and
we
are
moving
forward
with
ng
who
are
partners
in
this
endeavor
and
hopefully
soon
we
will
come
to
some
some
terms
and
agreements
on
how
to
move
forward
with
this
and
and
get
more
and
more
and
more
of
our
energy
savings.
O.
B
E
B
E
B
B
E
All
right,
so
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
mention
today
is
I,
did
do
us
a
little
update
to
our
product
development
process,
product
workflow,
and
so
we
passed
out
a
hard
copy
of
that
and
so
I
added
two
sections.
One
is
the
to
the
end
of
the
document.
So
one
is
at
the
bottom
of
the
second
page,
which
is
programs
that
are
recommended
by
the
Commission.
E
So
one
of
the
things
that
Roy
had
mentioned
when
we
talked
about
this
earlier
was
that
we
didn't
really
have
a
placeholder
for
programs
that
are
developed,
not
necessarily
products.
So
I
tried
to
describe
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
here
about
what
happens
when
we
have
programs
that
get
put
into
place,
usually
as
a
result
of
suggestions
from
the
committees
or
subcommittees
or
the
committee
council.
C
E
E
So
that's
the
one
thing
I
added
and
then
the
second
thing
I
added
was
projects
or
programs
that
emerge
from
outside
the
city
and
one
of
the
things
that
inspired
this
was
the
recent
grant
that
we
received
through
the
Southern
California
Association
of
Governments,
to
do
the
walkability
master
plan
and
safe
routes
to
school
plan.
So
we
got
a
chunk
of
funding,
they
are
sort
of
managing
that
process
for
us
and
we
helped
define
the
scope
of
that
process.
E
Project
worked
with
the
committee
to
do
that
and
then
that
project
will
basically
proceed
and
this
group
will
act
as
if
by
a
advisory
group
and
provide
input
to
that
process
along
the
way.
So
so
that
I
tried
to
outline
that
in
here
as
well,
so
so
I
think
those
are
the
key
kind
of
workflows
that
come
through
the
committee
and
the
Commission's
and
the
Commission,
and
so
anyway,
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
those
things
thrown
in
there.
E
So
if
you've
got
any
questions,
comments
about
that
feel
free
to,
let
me
know
I'm
happy
to
make
some
edits
to
it
down
the
road
and
Sandra.
Just
for
your
information,
we,
when
I
started
I,
didn't
quite
understand
how
things
worked,
and
so
this
was
one
of
the
documents
that
I
tried
to
pull
together
to
help
inform
myself,
but
also
to
form
other
and
further
inform
others
as
well.
We
have
another
one
on
the
agenda
development
process
that
all
will
get
to
you
as
well.
So
all
right,
yes.
E
E
It
could
come
about
in
a
couple
of
different
ways.
The
the
intent
with
this
one
was
for
things
that
come
from
outside
that
everything
given
to
us
or
somehow
we
get
the
grant
from
somebody
from
outside
to
do
something,
and
so
that's
sort
of
what
it
was
designed
to
do.
So
that's
more
outward
facing
or
how
we're
coming
things
is.
F
F
E
E
E
All
right,
so
why
don't
we
turn
it
over
to
Anthony
and
we
can
do
our
little
Brown,
Act,
refresher
and
I
know
that
I've
certainly
taught
or
learned
about
the
Brown
Act,
but
we'll
certainly
be
good
to
hear
it
from
Anthony
as
to
just
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
about
what
the
requirements
are
etc.
So.
D
Well,
I'm
sure
mr.
Friedman
can
give
you
a
much
more
in-depth
session
than
I
could
but
I'll
just
start
off
with
saying
I'm
passing
around
the
ABCs
of
the
Brown
Act.
This
wasn't
developed
by
the
Institute
of
local
governments
through
the
League
of
California
cities.
It's
just
a
brief
overview
of
the
Brown
Act
I'll
go
over
a
couple
things,
but
I
certainly
want
to
just
primarily
get
to
any
questions.
You
may
have
some
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
make
sure
everybody
knows
is
for
a
regular
meaning.
D
The
agenda
needs
to
be
posted
at
least
72
hours
in
advance
for
special
meetings,
24
hours
in
advance.
When
documents
are
being
released
to
a
majority
of
the
Commission,
they
also
need
to
be
available
to
the
public.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
Commission's
are
getting
documents
that
are
submitted
as
your
packet
are
also
available
to
the
public
through
the
website
or
at
the
office,
and
in
addition,
any
documents
that
are
received
after
the
posting
of
the
agenda
should
also
be
available
to
the
public.
D
Those
don't
need
to
necessarily
be
posted
on
to
the
website,
but
if
somebody
wanted
to
see
any
additional
correspondence
that
has
been
received
leading
up
to
the
meeting,
they
should
be
able
to
check
in
with
the
staff
when
it
comes
to
serial
meetings.
We
want
to
make
sure
that,
since
the
this
group
has
so
many
subcommittees
or
works
and
subcommittees
that
you
understand
that
when
you've
got
how
many
members
is
to
support
11.
D
So
when
you
have
your
subcommittees
that
are
meeting
the
maximum
number
of
members
which
is
5
once
you
hit
that
number,
you
want
to
make
sure
that
you're,
avoiding
speaking
to
anybody
else,
who's
not
on
the
subcommittee
regarding
the
business
of
that
subcommittee.
That
would
be
a
violation.
That'd
be
considered
a
serial
meeting
because
now
you're
bringing
in
one
more
member,
which
would
constitute
a
majority
of
the
board,
even
if
your
private
writing
and
update
you're,
giving
them
information.
D
D
Is
if
it's
a
standing
committee,
so,
for
instance,
if
the
committee
like,
if
you
guys,
establish
a
standing
committee
where
you
have
ongoing
jurisdiction
with
no
sunset
timeline.
Now
that
is
a
brow
neck
body
as
well,
and
so
you're
gonna
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
avoiding
any
kind
of
serial
meetings.
If
it's
a
subcommittee,
that's
ad-hoc,
so
you
have
a
limited
duration
and
very
specific
to
of
subject
matter.
D
Those
are
not
subject
to
Brown
acts,
so
you
don't
need
to
post
agendas
for
those,
and
the
public
does
not
necessarily
need
to
be
invited,
although
you
can
invite
them
just
like
you
may
see
the
city
council
member
sometimes
do
town
hall
forums
and
things
like
that.
Those
are
non
agendized
meetings,
but
the
public
is
still
invited
in
those
cases.
D
You
still
want
to
make
sure
that
you're,
avoiding
hitting
a
majority
of
the
commissioners
of
being
discussing
that
subject
matter,
but
if
it's
less
than
a
quorum,
so
you've
got
three
members
on
that
subcommittee
and
they
want
to
talk
to
a
fourth
member
that
would
be
okay
again,
you
just
want
to
make
sure
nobody's
doing
a
daisy-chain
of
communications
where
it's
passing
along
from
one
Commissioner
Commissioner
to
another.
Because
again
we
need
to
avoid
those
Brown
Act
issues.
G
Thank
you
because
this
is
the
issue
that
I
want
to
raise
just
the
way
the
Brown
Act
defines
legislative
body.
There
is
no
difference
between
the
Commission
as
a
whole
and
a
Standing
Committee.
They
are
all
of
the
Brown
Act
stuff
applies
equally
to
both
a
Standing
Committee,
which
they're
two
now
and
perhaps
a
third.
By
the
time.
G
We're
done
this
evening
is
a
full
Brown,
Act
body,
and
so,
as
you
all
know,
I've
been
fairly
clear
about
on
the
terms,
are
standing
committee
to
me
sure
that
all
of
our
materials
are
fully
round
acted
with
with
documents.
Agendas
essentially
minutes
report
that
that's
good,
that
constitutes
minutes
so
I'm,
you
know
III
think
that's
the
appropriate
way,
sort
of
look
at
it.
D
Then,
when
it
comes
to
public
comment,
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
if
you
are
using
the
speaker
cards,
you
need
to
make
sure
that
people
are
aware
that
they
can
fill
those
out
anonymously.
There's
no
requirement
that
anybody
identify
themselves.
You
can,
of
course,
adopt
time
limitations
on
on
public
comment
so
to
three
minutes.
D
Whatever
your
choice
is
and
then,
when
it
comes
to
dissension,
the
public
has
a
right
to
voice
its
opinions,
even
if
it's
criticism
of
staff
or
the
Commission
or
the
City
Council,
and
so
unless
the
person
is
using
vulgar
and
obscene
language
or
speaking
out
of
turn,
so
their
public
comment
period
is
over
and
if
they
continue
to
shout,
then
you
can
adjourn
the
meeting
or
take
a
recess
to
to
calm
the
situation.
But
criticism
alone
is
not
a
reason
to
have
somebody
stop
speaking.
B
D
So
if,
let's
say
you
have
a
Styrofoam
standing
committee,
they
should
not
be
communicating
with
each
other
about
subject
matter
that
that
subcommittee
could
be
speaking
about
and
whether
it's
by
phone
email
in
person.
If
those
are
the
subcommittee
members,
they
shouldn't
be
speaking
to
each
other
about
that.
Subject
matter
outside
of
a
meeting.
Okay,.
D
D
If
the
subcommittee's
two
or
three
members,
then
you
have
a
very
small.
If
it's
two
members,
you
can't
speak
to
each
other.
If
it's
a
standing
committee
and
if
you've
got
three,
then
talking
to
one
would
be
acceptable,
would
be
a
majority.
Oh
I'm,
sorry!
So
when
you're
looking
at
the
City
Council
of
five,
only
two
members
can
speak
to
each
other
about
a
particular
topic
outside
of
the
meeting
once
they
get
to
a
third
you've
hit
a
quorum.
G
It's
not
fun,
and
this
Patrick
knows
because
I've
had
to
raise
this
issue
several
times.
It
clearly
does
limit
what
you
can
do
and
say
which
is
essentially,
so
we
I'm
sure
you
do
the
same
thing
there.
We
discussed
everything
at
the
the
meeting
and
outside
of
the
meeting
its
eye
drafts
essentially
minutes
and
ask
what
I
think
is
as
close
as
possible
as
please.
G
Let
me
know
that
you
agree
with
the
minutes
and,
if
there's
anything
substantive,
I
defer
that
to
Patrick
to
sort
of
deal
with,
and
even
that's
potentially
a
serial
meeting,
so
I'm
somewhat
careful
about
that.
But
we
have
to
do
some
things
with
with
a
three-member
committee
which
is
least,
though
the
two
that
are
exist
so
far.
It
is
exactly
the
same
thing
as
a
is
a
full
Commission,
not
not
easy
to
deal
with,
but
that's
what
the
Brown
Act
says.
G
So
we
just
have
to
sort
of
deal
with
it
and
you
know
rely
on
Patrick
to
to
perhaps
do
any.
You
know
final
decisions,
because
staff
can
do
things,
can't
necessarily
talk
to
each
other
completely
and
be
duis
buggit
hope
than
this
is
it
who
haven't,
spoke,
hub-and-spoke,
yeah,
even
that's
a
little
challenging
and
that
could
be
potentially
a
serial
meeting,
so
it
it
is
not
practical,
but
most
laws
are
not
practical.
If
we
just
have
to
deal
with
it
and.
D
As
you
may
have
seen,
the
City
Council
has
that
challenge
where
they
have
it
on
their
agenda:
the
the
councilmember
communication
to
specifically
so
that
they
can
share
ideas
and
and
issues
that
have
arisen
over
the
last
couple
weeks
at
each
meeting,
because
the
council
members
can't
do
that
outside
of
the
meeting.
I
have.
A
One
question
about
that:
our
waste
reduction
subcommittee
has
three
members
and
one
activity
that
we
did
recently
was
to
do.
An
inspection
of
trash
and
recycling
containers
downtown
and
two
of
the
members
of
the
subcommittee
participated
and
to
staff
city
staff
members
participated.
Should
we
not
have
done
that
it.
D
F
F
We've
got
a
couple
of,
we
have
actually
many
projects
that
were
working
on,
and
so
the
way
it's
been
laid
out
to
me
is
that
we
go
to
the
meetings
to
discuss
issues,
but
we're
also,
you
know
we're
brainstorming
to
a
certain
extent,
but
there's
a
limited
amount
of
time,
so
it
pretty
much
has
to
be
a
done
deal
when
we
go
there.
So
when
do
we
brainstorm?
When
do
we
talk
it
over?
When
do
you
know
what
I
mean
were
working
on
problems
together?
F
D
You
have
to
do
it
if
it's
a
standing
committee,
you're
gonna,
have
to
do
it
in
public
forum,
so
whether
you
want
to
call
it
a
study
session,
a
town-hall
meeting,
just
a
discussion
item
whatever
it
may
be.
If
it's
a
standing,
if
it's
subject
to
the
Brown
Act
you're
gonna
need
to
do
it
in
a
public
forum.
F
D
It's
it's
an
ad-hoc
committee,
then
it
needs
to
be
limited,
jurisdiction
and
limited
duration.
So
you
cannot
be
ongoing.
So
if
it's
a
waste
reduction
subcommittee
that
you
think
it's
gonna
go
on
for
the
next
five
years,
that
would
not
qualify,
it
needs
to
be
something
that's
less
than
a
year
and
even
that's
kind
of
stretching
it
and.
G
One
sort
of
question
observation
but
I,
think
I
know
the
answer
to
it.
We
discussed
it's
in
the
reported
that
we
we
have
men
I
guess
it
was
last
month
with
a
representative
of
the
cannabis
industry
and
she
suggested
a
field
trip,
because
one
of
our
projects
which
we'll
be
working
on
is
essentially
sustainability.
Considerations
for
our
growing
cannabis
industry.
The
council
clearly
is
supportive,
but
there
are
some
sustainability
issues.
I
think
that
if
we
do,
that
is
exactly
what
you
just
said
and
all
the
commissioners
would
be
invited.
G
That
essentially
says
says
that
needs
to
be
notified.
Saying
you
know
the
members
of
the
sustainability
Commission
are
invited
to
go
to
X.
You
know
Grove
facility
and
that's
officially
a
notified
as
a
gen
dies
as
a
special
meeting
of
the
sustainability,
Commission
and
members
of
the
public
are
invited,
yes,
I
believe
that's
the
appropriate
we've
done
that
a
couple
of
times
where
we've
gone
to
like
the
facility
is
in
the
anaerobic.
Maybe
we
haven't
been,
you
know
six.
G
D
And,
alternatively-
and
this
is
only
if
there's
logistical
issues-
you
could
split
the
group,
because
it's
just
information
gathering-
it's
not
intended
to
be
a
place
where
you're
making
a
decision.
You
could
split
the
group
up
so
that
it's
three
four
and
four
and
do
the
fill
trip.
And
then
you
don't
have
to
agendize
it
because
you're
just
doing
an
informational
session
where
you're
getting
information
and
then
coming
back
to
a
public
forum
to
have
the
discussion
about
the
issue.
D
A
G
B
Question
great
yeah
I
do
have
another
question.
We've
always
said:
if
one
Commissioner
wants
to
get
something
to
the
rest
of
the
commissioners
that
it
should
go
through
staff
first.
So
if
I'm
saying
with
a
subcommittee,
then
if
there's
a
question
or
a
comment
that
one
Commissioner
wants
to
make
regarding
the
subcommittee,
can
that
Commissioner
send
it
to
staff
and
staff?
Send
it
to
the
other?
Commissioner.
D
Sharing
is
fine
decision
making
opinion
sharing
is
not
so
if
a
commissioner
is
providing
their
opinion
on
a
subject
matter
and
then
sharing
them
out
amongst
the
other
commissioners,
that
could
be
a
potential
Brown
Act
violation.
If
you're
saying
I've
downloaded
this
great
white
paper
on
this
issue,
please
share
it
with
the
other
commissioners.
That's
acceptable.
D
Locations
need
to
be
within
the
city's
jurisdiction
so
venue
it
could
be
a
they
could
be
anyplace
just
like.
If
it
was
a
field
trip,
it
could
be
any
place
as
long
as
it's
within
the
city's
jurisdiction,
and
if
it
is
a
field
trip,
it
can
be
outside
of
the
city's
jurisdiction.
Again,
it
just
needs
to
be
noticed
appropriately,
so
the
decisions
shouldn't
be
made
off-site
so.
B
D
B
Then
going
to
Commissioner
Miller's
earlier
comment
about
project
work
within
a
standing
committee.
Can
a
standing
committee
appoint
an
ad
hoc
committee,
or
does
that
have
to
come
back
to
the
Commission
to
be
appointed
by
the
chair
to
if
there's
a
just
a
short-term
project
that
the
waste
reduction
committee
wanted
to
work
on?
That's
gonna
go
for
I
have
half
a
year,
I.
D
D
The
the
penalties
are
typically
towards
the
city,
so
any
of
the
projects
or
recommendations,
the
ordinance
that
may
get
approved
by
the
Commission
and
then
since
sent
on
to
the
City
Council
for
adoption.
That
project
is
essentially
tainted,
and
so
the
City
Council
would
have
a
couple
of
remedies
depending
on
what
the
issue
is.
One
would
be
to
reintroduce
the
ordinance
and
re-adopt
the
ordinance
in
a
public
forum
or
send
it
back
to
the
Commission
for
it
to
reconsider
its
decision
in
a
public
forum.
D
E
All
right,
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
couple
things:
I
wanted
to
mention
it's
just
a
recap
of
some
of
the
council
meetings.
So
on
to
19th
the
our
new
commissioner
was
appointed.
There
was
also
the
Salton
Sea
resolution
that
was
passed
to
approve
long
term
water
intake,
I.
Guess
to
the
see
our
study
of
that,
and
then
the
scooters
issue
was
discussed.
E
It
was
voted
down,
but
bicycles
were
added
to
the
list
of
things
to
think
about,
so
that
was
delegated
to
the
business
retention
subcommittee
and
then
the
plastic
span
was
fully
supported
and
so
we'll
be
pursuing
and
figuring
that
up
July
10th.
There
was
a
request
from
City
Council
to
evaluate
non-toxic
alternatives
to
roundup
for
city
gardening
and
landscaping
activities.
So
I
bring
that
to
the
Commission
to
figure
out
how
you
want
to
respond
to
that
Council's
request
and
then
the
July
24th
meeting,
which
is
the
one
coming
up.
E
There
will
be
the
solar
zoning
ordinance
that
goes
before
the
Commission
and
for
the
before
the
council
and
so
we'll
be
there
to
provide
support
to
the
Planning
Department
on
that
presentation.
So
I
think
that's
it
as
far
as
the
council
meetings
go
and
then
the
only
other
couple
of
things
I
will
mention.
One
is
the
summer
reading
program,
bike
raffle
on
July,
18th
and
Dan
has
a
very
important
picture
to
show
if
it
will
come
up
so
at
that
we
donated
funds
to
supply
or
to
give
away.
E
B
I
G
F
E
A
Just
like
to
add
something
about
the
bicycle:
giveaway
I've
gone
the
last
three
years
and
I
think
it's
a
really
fun
event.
There
are
a
lot
of
kids
there
with
their
parents
and
the
commissioners
who
are
there,
get
to
pull
raffle
tickets
out
of
a
out
of
a
drum
and
announce
the
winner.
So
that's
that's
a
lot
of
fun
too.
So
I
would
encourage
any
of
you
who
have
the
time
to
to
go
and
I
think.
As
long
as
we
don't
talk
about
anything
related
to
the
Commission,
it's
okay.
A
So
now
we'll
move
on
to
public
comments.
This
time
is
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
sustainability
Commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission,
the
Commission
values,
your
comments,
but
pursuant
to
the
Brown
Act
cannot
take
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
are
assigned
for
each
speaker.
Does
anyone
here
have
public
comment
this
evening.
A
Because
the
answer
is
no
okay,
now
we'll
move
on
to
welcome
and
introductions
I
think
most
of
you
have
set
a
low
to
Sandberg
era,
our
newest
Commission
member.
So
far,
but
I
just
like
to
take
this
time
to
formally
welcome
her
to
the
Commission
and
ask
her
to
say
a
little
bit
about
herself
and
what
she's
interested
in
as
far
as
the
Commission
goes.
C
I'm
very
very
happy
to
be
here.
It
was
quite
exciting
when
I
got
the
phone
call
I
had
that
tone
of
this
is
good
news.
So
I'm
excuse
me,
I'm
an
apparel
designer
with
commercial
retail
background
in
92.
I
went
totally
green
with
my
textiles
and
that
and
my
fixtures,
every
everything
was
made
in
USA
and
everything
was
Green.
So
1992
was
the
first
time
that
was
really
viable
in
terms
of
large-scale
textile
production.
So
92
I
changed
everything.
C
C
But
in
my
business,
which
in
fashion
and
apparel
and
food
packaging
as
well
because
food
and
fashion
were
kind
of
two
yarns
that
have
run
through
my
careers
together
and
they're
very
similar,
but
both
of
them
have
become
extremely
prepackaged
in
small
amounts,
so
that
to
me
became
a
problem
not
only
because
it
was
inconsistent
with
my
image
and
what
I
was
trying
to
promote,
but
it
the
end
result.
Is
you
look
around
now
anywhere
in
the
world,
the
micro
plastics
and
all
of
that?
C
It's
on
a
shocking
level,
and
even
in
terms
of
geology,
we
are
the
you
know
we
have
the
plasticine
and
the
Jurassic,
and
all
that
we
are
actually
already
in
the
age
of
plastics,
which
is
really
kind
of
scary,
to
think
that
all
of
our
bodies
and
all
of
the
wildlife
and
that
they're
microscopic
pieces
of
plastic
and
all
of
the
tissue
in
their
bodies.
So
this
is
really
really
extreme.
C
C
Much
of
it
cannot
be
successfully
recycled
into
other
products
and
there's
only
this
so
so
many
plastic
items
that
that
you
really
do
need
so
here
and
I
live
downtown
and
I
walk
I
got
rid
of
my
car
when
I
moved
to
Palm
Springs,
because
I
was
having
to
commute
into
LA,
which
was
a
horrible
experience
and
coming
from
New
York,
which
is
one
of
the
top
green
cities.
Even
though
it's
Gotham,
it
is
very
green
and
public
transportation
is
a
big
part
of
that.
So
I'm,
a
big
supporter
and
believer
in
public
transportation.
C
C
It's
all
plastic
plastic,
plastic,
plastic
and
it's
I
see
the
same
plastic
sitting
there
for
months,
I've
been
a
burr
who
goes
every
morning,
needs
to
retired
schoolteacher
and
he
picks
up
a
bag
of
recyclables
every
morning
when
he
does
this
constitution
about
5:30.
In
the
morning
we
had
more
people
like
that,
but
how
do
we?
How
do
we
first
contained
gather
and
contain
all
of
this
junk
because
it's
not
too
bad
to
look
at
a
empty
lot
or
pristine
desert,
but
it's
the
garbage
and
it
isn't
paper
trash
or
food
trash.
It's
plastic.
C
And
you
know,
without
even
you
know,
getting
into
issues
of
homelessness
and
so
on,
but
just
the
garbage
alone
on
the
street
is
and
as
a
retailer,
it's
bad
for
business,
and
it
isn't
good
for
anybody,
so
I
think
being
able
to
work
with
the
hospitality
people,
the
hotel's,
the
restaurants,
the
cafes,
to
take
out
people.
How
do
we
encourage
them
and
make
it
possible
for
them
to
change
over
in
packaging?
Something
I've
had
to
do
in
my
own
business.
C
I
know
it's
costly
and
I
know
that
there,
but
compared
to
what
the
costs
are
going
to
be
there
one
way
or
another,
and
you
know
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
do
have
to
approach
sooner
rather
than
later
and
I.
Don't
think
there
is
a
later
on
it
and
the
other
thing
I've
noticed
just
recently
and
in
fact
one
of
the
city
council
meetings
some
time
ago
where
they
were
talking
about
the
non-smoking
at
the
village
fest
village.
C
Fest
is
wonderful
and
it's
great
that
people
come
out
for
it,
but
they
said
we'll
just
go
down
the
side
streets
and
you
can
smoke
there
well.
I
live
on
the
side
streets,
and
this
and
it's
obnoxious
because
they
throw
their
cigarette
butts
now.
Well
know
that
the
cigarette
butts
don't
degrade
they
last
for
a
really
long
time.
C
So
that's
a
problem:
it
gets
into
the
water
systems,
they
have
to
be
removed,
and
so
on
so
I
mean
leaving
something
is
as
silly
as
maybe
encouraging
people
to
go
back
to
the
old
glamour
Hollywood
days
of
cigarette
holders
and
getting
rid
of
the
filters.
You
know,
that's
a
that's
a
problem
and
the
other
recent
garbage
problem.
I've
noticed
downtown
is
all
the
plastic
that's
coming
from
the
cannabis
pharmacies
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you've
been
in
them
recently,
but
it
is
no
longer
jars
of
flour
with
bud
tenders.
C
Everything
is
prepackaged
and
small
packages,
lots
of
plastic,
metallus,
sized
plastic
and
materials
that
are
I
think
very
inconsistent
with
the
4/20
movement,
so
why
you
know
why
are
they
wrapped
in
that
kind
of
packaging,
because
that
packaging
is
ending
up
on
the
streets
now
and
I'm,
seeing
it
every
day
when
I
walk
out
my
door?
So
those
are
some
things
that
I
think
would
be
a
good
start
and
something
that
I'm
quite
interested
in
because,
as
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
prop
again,
it's
very
expensive
to
be
green
and
all
that
it
isn't.
C
It's
actually
cheaper
and
it's
better
and
it
you
get
a
return
in
your
business,
because
people
there's
a
feelgood
factor
to
it
and
they,
if
they
have
a
choice,
I'll
go
to
the
store.
That
is
green.
So
it's
not
going
to
change
how
we
do
anything.
It's
just
going
to
be.
You
know
the
paper
cup
instead
of
the
plastic
cup,
the
straws
of
straws,
they're
all
solvable
and
it
all
exists
already
and
it's
affordable.
So
how
do
we
encourage
those
businesses
to
make
those
decisions?
C
I,
don't
know
if
there's
perks
or
whatever
we
could
do
to
help
them
hurry
up
and
change
over,
because
getting
rid
of
the
plastic
bags
was
big.
There's
still
some
inventory
in
this
city
that
they're
still
you
know
in
some
of
the
small
delis
than
that,
but
that'll
that'll
eventually
go
away
and
as
people
get
in
the
habit
like
they
do
in
Europe
or
in
large
cities
of
carrying
a
little
bag
with
you.
C
So
if
you
run
into
a
shop,
you
know
you
don't
have
to
come
out,
but
it's
the
small
plastics
and
all
of
the
food
packaging
that
I'm
seen
and
it's
just
and
it
just
sits
there.
It
just
sits
there.
So
my
my
background
was
really
about
getting
showing
people
it's
better
but
letting
them
make
that
choice
and
giving
them
those
choices.
The
decision
is
an
obvious
one,
once
you're
educated,
so
there's
nobody
coming
over
and
hitting
you
over
the
head
and
you're
bad.
C
You
know
you're,
not
you're,
just
you
can
do
it
in
a
better
way
and
I
think
that
if
you
take
the
that
friendly
approach
with
people
and
I
know
in
my
own
businesses,
it
became
more
of
an
educational
sharing
rather
than
this
is.
This
is
better
and
you
must
do
it
this
way
and
you're
wrong,
and
you
can't
make
people
wrong.
You
have
to
encourage
them
to
to
come
along
in
a
new
and
better
direction.
So
those
are
my
big
personal
concerns
and
what
I
would
like
to
kind
of
focus
on
you
well.
A
C
A
J
Hello
there
this
is
Tracy
Merrigan,
she's
kind
of
a
partner
and
member
of
a
coalition
on
weeds.
My
name
is
Jennifer
Prado
and
with
friends
of
the
desert
mountains,
and
for
the
past
seven
years,
I've
been
working
with
that
nonprofit
to
help
eradicate
all
sorts
of
invasive
species
throughout
the
Paciello
Valley.
So
I'll
keep
my
comments
brief.
Basically,
fountain
grass
is
one
of
our
worst
invasive
weeds.
Do
I,
just
click,
this
headway,
okay,
just
basics!
J
We
are
not
set
up
for
wildfires,
unfortunately,
with
what
you're
seeing
on
the
screen,
those
photos
and
those
canyons-
and
you
know
what
you
see
you
know
behind
us
on
the
all
of
the
hillsides
of
the
San
Jacinto
and
Santa
Rosa
Mountains,
going
all
the
way
down
and
on
the
other
side
of
the
valley,
it's
it's
filling
up
with
this
invasive
grass,
and
it's
not
just
this
one.
But
there
are
others,
but
this
one
is
really
bad
because
it
gets
huge.
It
gets
to
be
you
know.
J
Sometimes
one
plant
can
be
six
feet
across
and
you
know
taller
than
I
am
so
it's
a
real
problem
and,
as
you
can
see,
this
should
be
pristine,
open,
desert
wash,
and
it's
filled
with
this
invasive
grass,
which
was
planted
as
an
ornamental
somewhere.
Another
harm
is
water.
It
takes
up
scarce
water
resources
in
the
desert,
so
it's
not
only
taking
surface
water
from
rivers
and
you
know
to
no
house
and
ponds
wherever
we
have
them
in
natural
areas,
but
it's
also
keeping
that
surface
water
from
percolating
down
into
our
groundwater.
J
A
little
bit
of
moisture
then
becomes
a
plant
then
becomes
a
you
know,
a
colony
kind
of
down
there
in
the
left
bottom
corner
and
then
on
the
right.
It
you
know,
covers
the
whole
area,
so
it's
a
very
fast
growing,
fast
spreading
weed.
This
is
kind
of
just
a
recap:
it's
very
drought,
tolerant
and
it
is
fire
adapted.
So
if
there
were
to
be
a
fire,
the
first
thing
to
come
back
would
be
the
fountain
grass.
J
So,
unfortunately,
you
know
you'd
think
he'll
mean
let's
burn
it
out
or
whatever
do
a
prescribed
burn
and
not,
unless
you're,
very
careful
about
restoring
that
habitat
afterward
again
just
spreads
from
urban
landscapes.
This
is
indian
canyons
up
all
the
way
up
on
top
of
the
rocks,
and
you
can
see
it
if
you,
if
you've
been
on
the
palm
springs,
aerial
tramway,
which
I
was
last
weekend-
it's
it
goes
all
the
way
up.
I
mean
it's
all
of
that
kind
of
golden
colored
stuff
on
this
hillsides
is
invasive
fountain
grass,
and
this
is
the
north.
J
J
K
J
K
Cities
use
it
it's
a
cheap
plant
right,
so
the
a
lot
of
commercial
designers
have
used
a
lot
of
these
grasses
that
are
now
invasively,
Mexican
feather
grass
and
these
grasses,
because
they
give
you
a
lot
of
bang
for
your
buck
and
they're
very,
very
inexpensive
for
growers
to
grow
so
there's
a
huge
markup
on
them
and
and
they're
like
a
cheap
planted
by
everyone
once
grass
and
meadows,
and
things
like
that.
There
was
like
a
whole
design
time
for
this
and
which
has
kind
of
passed
it
away
right.
Yeah,.
J
So
what
I've
done
over
the
past
seven
seven
years
is,
you
know,
get
out
in
the
field
with
volunteers
and
sometimes
hired
crews
and
there's
a
specific
way
that
we
have
to
remove
it,
and
we've
had
success,
doing
that.
J
It's
very
labor
intensive
and
when
you
get
up
into
very
rocky
areas
where
you
can't
get
it
out
by
the
root,
that's
kind
of
another
situation,
but
where
you
are
able
to
dig
it
out,
you
remove
the
seed
heads
bag,
those
make
sure
they're
not
escaping
dig
out
the
plant
and
then
you'll
find
masses
and
masses
of
you
know.
Thousands
and
thousands
of
seeds
at
the
base
of
the
plant
collect
as
much
of
that
as
you
can
bag
it
up
and
dispose
of
that
properly.
J
J
There
are
plenty
of
landscape
alternatives.
This
is
just
two
of
them
that
are
quite
pretty
so
you
know
it's
not
like.
There
aren't
other
things
that
have
the
same
kind
of
effect.
In
your
yard.
There
are
other
invasives.
We
have
Stipe
a
capensis
another
portion
of
that
golden
glow.
That
you're,
seeing
on
your
mountain
sides,
is
this
grass
it's
this
type
of
capensis
this
brown
stuff,
and
that
is
slowly
creeping.
J
J
That
one
isn't
so,
but
so
the
fountain
grass,
the
good
thing
about
it,
is
because
it's
a
nursery
plant.
We
can
actually
do
something
about
it
and
you
know,
as
the
sustainability
Commission,
you
can
make
recommendations
to
the
City
Council
about
things
that
can
be
done
by
the
city
to
to
help
eradicate
it.
J
There
are
you
know,
manual,
removal
techniques,
techniques
which
we
do
often
and
those
are
successful,
but
labor-intensive.
But
what
we're
trying
to
get
back
to
is
this
kind
of
wild.
You
know
beauty
that
we
have
in
the
springtime
when
there
aren't
invasive
grasses
completely
taken
over.
So
I
have
a
list
of
some
of
the
things
that
I
thought.
The
the
Planning
Commission
could
perhaps
recommend
to
the
city.
If
you're
interested
in
hearing
that
or
I
can
take,
questions
are.
F
J
I
yeah
hi,
brutal
yeah
I
have
worked
with
the
folks
at
Joshua,
Tree
and
yeah.
Unfortunately,
the
way
that
Joshua
Tree
operates
now
with
their
veg
program
is
they
have
a
lot
of
places.
We
have
sensitive
cultural
resources
and
especially
in
Joshua
Tree,
they
don't
allow
any
type
of
digging
or
pulling
of
the
plants.
They
can
only
clip
and
that's
not
effective
control
for
things
like
fountain
grass,
which
we
sprout
very
easily.
K
Highlights
this
issue
and
in
Janice
done
amazing
work
getting
friends
and
the
public
involved
in
doing
weed
management.
But
if
you
look
at
Palm
Springs,
it's
kind
of
it
has
it's
not
an
idea
that
you
can
think
of
as
because
we've
been
doing
outreach
to
the
public
for
I.
Don't
know
how
many
years
now
so
we
we
outreach
with
desert
horticultural
and
Friends.
So
we
did
this
flyer
together
to
start
doing
an
outreach
to
the
public
a
number
of
years
ago.
K
K
Whitewater
preserve
and
Thousand
Palms
Oasis,
like
lots
of
our
kind
of
community
partners,
hand
this
out
also
but
part
of
the
problem
in
Palm
Springs.
It's
City
land,
where
there's
so
much
dumb
grass,
so
you
can
think
of
doing
a
project
based
on
the
public,
but
you
might
want
to
do
a
project
showing
how
the
city
is
a
leader
in
removal
and
then
engage
the
public,
because
if
you
go
down,
if
you
go
to
talk
with
swash,
if
you
just
drive
down
in
tahquitz
River
estates,
that
wash
is
completely
full
of
fountain
grass.
K
There's
fountain
grass
in
the
sidewalks
there's
fountain
grass
in
the
medians
there's
fountain
grass
in
the
middle
of
Deer
grass,
which
is
a
native
which
is
a
beautiful
native
substitute.
And
then,
if
you
drive
down
gene
autry
you'll
see
fountain
grass
sprouting
in
the
middle
of
it.
So
it
would
be
really
great.
K
And
so
like
every
cup
every
twice
a
year,
something
I
thought
we
had
these
cleanups
of
the
wash.
If
you
started
with
something
that
you
really
promoted
with
ps1
or
and
showed
people.
If
you
went
and
pulled
the
fountain
grass
in
that
area,
it
you
it
would,
it
would
just
be
an
amazing
difference.
You
just
see
it
visually
like
crazy
or
around
the
all
along
the
tram
Road
or
you
know,
a
lot
of
fountain
grass
has
gone
into
that.
K
Development
right
across
from
the
visitors
center
that
was
never
built
and
it
looked
like
they
had
irrigation
in
there
for
really
long
time
and
they
had
beautiful
plants,
but
now
that's
getting
completely
full
of
fountain
grass.
So
if
you
could
pick
some
places
where
people
really
hike
and
better
on
a
busy
street-
or
you
know
when
you
really
show
how
you
get
rid
of
it,
it
would
be
great
because
it
tons
of
it
is
on
City,
probably
tons
and
tons
and
tons
of
it.
Question.
K
Grass
grass,
but
you
find
it
in
clumps
of
found
grass
that
obviously
the
seed
popped
in
there
and
like
it
wasn't
planted
with
the
deer
grass
intentionally,
but
people
were
planting
a
ton
of
the
found
grass
at
one
point.
You'd
have
to
go
back
and
check,
but
you
know
it's
not
like
a
hundred
thousand
people
planted
fountain
grass
and
that's
why
it's
all
over
like
it
could
be
not
that
much
town
grass
that
was
planted
yeah
one.
G
Commission
flown
I
think
you
answered
the
question,
but,
as
we've
probably
been
reading
in
the
paper,
the
city
is
considering
an
agreement
with
grit
that
would
actually
bring
the
area
that
you
mentioned,
which
is
that
which
was
the
crescendo
project
not
currently
owned
by
the
city.
But
that
could
happen
probably
within
months.
So
I
would
sort
of
echo
the
idea
that
once
that
becomes
official
city,
property,
escrow
and
everything
closes,
it
would
be
good
to
mobilize
the
public
of
saying,
hey.
G
We
now
own
this
property,
let's
all
get
together
and
clean
it
up,
because
I
think
we'd
get
a
really
good
response
rate
from
the
public.
It'll,
be
absolutely
in
the
news
that
the
city
is
just
acquired,
no,
no
one
more
than
a
hundred
acres
between
the
two
projects
near
the
tramway
and
the
Rimrock
project,
which
may
also
have
some
of
that.
G
D
J
A
A
J
You
I
do
have
I,
have
a
copy
of
kind
of
a
little
short
one-page
article
that
I
wrote
if
I
can
distribute
that,
or
is
it
something
that
has
to
wait
for
later?
Okay,
I'll
just
leave
it
Gary
around
okay.
Thank
you
and.
B
I
I
I
The
and
my
presentation
is
not
nearly
as
colorful
as
a
past
presentation,
but
we
have
been
concerned
about
pedestrian
safety
and
warm
sands
for
a
number
of
years
that
there
are
concerns
about
crossing
the
street.
They're
concerns
also
about
slowing
the
speed
on
Ramone,
because
we
are
we
Ramone
as
our
major
street
on
the
north
side
of
the
neighborhood.
The
neighborhood
is
bound
by
Ramone,
sunny
dunes,
Indian,
Canyon
and
sunrise.
I
We
have
about
a
thousand
people
in
the
neighborhood.
We
are
probably
again
I
had
estimate
on
this,
but
now
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
and
and
around
it
enough
to
have
a
good
sense
of
it.
We're
probably
mostly
over
55,
we're
increasingly
becoming
a
year-round
neighborhood
as
we're
we
have
here.
Actually,
the
year-round
is
more
like
10
months,
a
lot
of
people
stay
through
into
June
and
then
disappear
for
a
month,
or
so
we
have
about
800
residents.
We
have
250
mobile
homes.
I
know
that
number
for
sure.
I
We
have
my
best
guess
is
probably
a
300
apartments
or
duplexes.
We
have
very
few
single
family
homes,
we're
an
area
of
affordable
housing.
We
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
in
our
neighborhood
still
work.
We
do
have
a
small
number
of
families
and
we
also
have
nine.
We
also
have
nine
resorts,
and
all
of
this
affects
our
pedestrian
safety
as
you're
along
the
Ramone
corridor,
between
sunrise
and
Indian.
Canyon
I
realize
that
sustainability
is
more
concerned
about
problems
for
the
city
in
general.
This
is
an
example
of
sort.
I
The
sorts
of
problems
that
occur
in
some
neighborhoods
I
brought
here
this
the
two
pieces
of
mapping
to
focus
on
two
areas
of
concern.
Can
you
do
that?
Yeah,
that's
good
enough.
The
the
I
always
confuse
my
east
and
west.
So
if
I
get
off
that,
that
happens,
the
east
end
of
warm
sands
on
the
Ramon
border
on
the
east
end
of
warm
sands
runs
basically
from
Grenville
to
Grenfell
to
Ramon
it's
grenfell
to
sunrise,
that's
a
typo.
I
525
I
think
it's
525
sunrise
where
Ralph
says
and
CVS
and
those
sorts
of
things
we
know
that
we
have
been
approached
in
the
past
were
not
warms
hands.
Ramon
mobile
home
park
has
been
approached
in
the
past
about
the
jaywalking
between
that
and
the
grocery
stores.
A
lot
of
a
jaywalking
comes
from
the
entire
neighborhood
from
all
those
apartments
through
there,
and
actually
a
lot
of
it
also
comes
from
people
who
work
at
and
that
Shopping
Center
and
are
coming
home.
They
live
in
that
neighborhood.
I
The
one
of
the
reasons
for
the
jaywalking
is
that
the
the
intersection
at
sunrise
and
Ramon
itself
is
a
rather
frightening
intersection
to
use
as
a
pedestrian
I
have
used
it
I.
Actually
now
I
live
about
200
feet,
not
200.
I
live
about
500
feet
from
where
else
I
Drive
all
the
time,
because
I'm
not
going
to
get
a
jaywalking
ticket
and
it's
safer
to
drive
than
it
is
to
go
through
that
pedestrian
than
it
is
to
go
through
sunrise
and
Ramon.
I
Because
of
the
number
of
people
making
turns
and
those
sorts
of
things
you
can't
see.
You
can't
get
the
driver's
eye
to
make
sure
they're
not
going
to
hit
you,
whereas
if
you
J
walk,
you
can
see
them
coming.
You
know
where
they
are
so
I
mean
I,
understand
why
people
jaywalk
why
we
can't
have
a
pedestrian
access,
a
of
lighted,
pedestrian
crossing.
There
that's
been
concerned
for
many
years
and
we're
always
told
that
you
can't
do
that,
but
obviously
you
can
do
it
on
Palm
Canyon
in
the
commercial
district.
So
we
can't
do
it.
I
There
is
another
question
and
then
the
other
section
of
warm
sands.
It
is
a
concern
for
pedestrian
safety.
Is
the
West
End
from
around
Caballeros
up
to
in
cilia?
That
has
a
lots
of
resorts
and
there's
nine
resorts.
I
say:
there's
nine
it
there
may
be
more
than
that:
the
there's
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
from
there
up
to
arenas
and
downtown
there's
a
lot
of
residential
foot
traffic.
Also
through
that
area.
I
So
I
can't
you
know:
I,
don't
have
the
resources
to
give
you
a
count
of
the
pedestrian
traffic
in
that
area,
but
it
is
high
for
both
ends
of
that
town.
So
these
are
examples
of
where
Perdition
the
pedestrian
safety
is
a
concern.
I
brought
this
to
you
by
the
way,
because
John
Goines,
one
of
your
Commissioner,
had
mentioned
that
you
were
getting
ready
to
be
processing.
Some
I
think
it's
a
grant
related
to
pedestrian
safety
and-
and
this
is
an
example
of
pedestrian
safety
concerns
within
the
city.
I
A
You
Dom
I
just
wanted
to
toss
out.
He
and
I
had
talked
about
this
before,
and
you
know
recognizing
that
we
have
our
Subcommittee
on
walkability
and
pedestrian
planning
that
it
might
be
something
that
could
be
discussed
by
that
committee
at
some
point
times.
It's
good
to
get
the
information
in
front
of
us,
okay,.
A
A
L
Good
evening
welcome
new
commissioner,
we
adopted
at
the
last
meeting.
We
adopted
a
new
reporting
format,
so
I'll
just
read
through
it
briefly
and
it
consists
of
eight
items.
The
first
item
is
support
for
the
solid
waste
franchise,
so
I've
serviced,
the
fire
state
are
the
fire
stations,
police,
library
and
other
city
facilities
for
any
recycling
that
they
may
have.
There's
a
beverage
container
grant
expenditure
report,
that's
due
in
September,
and
that
is
for
2016-2017.
So
how
did
we
spend
the
money
in
those
years?
It's
a
very
simple
report.
L
The
last
thing
is
I've
been
approached
by
desert
Ark,
asking
for
a
proof
of
designation.
What
that
is,
is
it's
a
form
approved
by
the
state
and
it
allows
desert
art
to
be
one
of
the
collectors
of
e-waste
in
our
city,
along
with
our
waste
hauler
Palm
Springs
disposal
and
a
reason
that's
important
is
because
it
allows
us
to
control
who
collects
a
waste,
and
then
you
don't
get
the
people
that,
with
the
sizes,
says
e-waste
collection
at
Lowe's
from
8
to
noon
this
Saturday,
because
we
don't
know
what
happens
to
that.
L
I
add
who
knows
where
that
material
goes
or
what
happens
to
it.
I
had
an
incident
once
several
years
ago,
where
a
group
like
that
showed
up
and
they
were
charging
the
resinous
$10
a
piece
to
get
rid
of
their
hard
drives.
So
that's
what
we
want
to
limit.
That's
what
we
want
to
control.
The
second
item
is
special
events.
L
Those
are
the
city
offers
three
shredding
and
e-waste
events
every
year
where
the
public
can
bring
in
documents,
banking
documents
and
things
like
that
and
they'll
be
shred
on-site
and
they
could
also
drop
off
a
waste
at
that
collection
and
batteries
and
other
things
we
didn't
have
any
of
those
in
the
past
reporting
period.
Preparation
item
three
is
the
preparation
of
the
annual
report
collecting
and
collating
data.
L
I,
don't
know
how
familiar
you
are
with
SB
18
or
excuse
me
1326,
but
that's
going
to
be
a
very
important
piece
of
legislation
to
be
Oh
were
arching
and
there's
quite
a
bit
of
consternation,
going
back
and
forth
between
the
state
and
some
of
the
waste
haulers,
so
I
contacted
adem's
or
Andrew
Smith
at
the
state
asking
him.
If
there
had
been
any
progress,
he
said
it's
been
pretty
quiet
on
there
and
a
lot
of
politicians,
I
suppose
are
leaving
for
the
summer.
Getting
out
of
the
city.
L
I
also
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
our
franchise
waste.
Hauler,
Palm,
Springs
disposal
and
I
was
told
that
the
industry
as
a
whole
is
planning
to
take
a
much
more
aggressive
approach
because
they
weren't
they
weren't
contacted
ahead
of
the
legislation
being
written.
So
now
they
feel
as
though
it's
kind
of
being
forced
upon
them.
There's
a
lot
of
things
about
it
that
they
don't
like
so
they're
gonna,
be
pushing
back
with
a
little
bit
more
force
item.
C
E
L
Item
six
is
perform
other
duties
as
requested
that
usually
consists
of
phone
calls
emails,
making
contact
with
people
doing
whatever
it
is
that
the
city
asked
me
to
do
and
item
seven
is
report,
the
amount
of
recyclable
materials
taken
to
approved
recycling
facilities
and
I'm
very
happy
to
announce.
For
the
first
time
that
our
battery
collection
has
yielded
fruit,
there
were
four
pickups
and
our
July
1st
and
3rd,
and
it
yielded
115
pounds.
L
I
understand
there
were
three
more
today
at
the
leisure
center,
the
library
and
one
of
the
fire
stations,
as
well
as
the
fourth
container
in
your
office.
Currently
so
there's
four
more
so
the
average
seems
to
be
around
thirty
pounds
per
container,
so
I
was
comfortably
say
over
200
pounds
collected
so
far.
L
Desert
recycling
did
not
submit
us
report
yet
so
I'll
just
report
on
sa
recycling,
Ana
801
tons
of
green
waste
were
taken
to
sa
recycling,
which
is
not
unusual
in
the
summer,
because
there's
a
lot
of
tree
trimming
and
and
things
like
that,
so
that
that
numbers
up
a
little
bit
61
tons
of
concrete
that
110
tons
of
metal
were
all
taken
to
sa
recycling,
and
the
last
item
is
reporting
on
the
current
legislation.
Enforcement's.
L
That's
concerns
a
commercial
recycling,
mandatory
commercial
recycling
and
I
did
not
visit
any
businesses,
we're
sending
out
another
round
of
letters,
and
so
once
those
go
out,
I
will
contact
them
afterwards.
I
didn't
want
to
I,
didn't
see
any
sense
in
contacting
them
before
the
letters
went
out
so
I
just
wait
until
after
the
literature
well
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
E
All
right,
just
a
quick
update
on
leafblower
compliance.
We
have
had
several
inquiries,
several
a
few
inquiries
from
the
press
regarding
the
status
of
our
compliance
with
our
enforcement
of
the
leafblower
ordinance,
and
so
we
reported
that
we've
had
about
sixty
for
the
month
of
June,
which
was
the
first
month
of
enforcement,
had
about
67
complaints
that
were
lodged
with
the
code
enforcement
folks,
we
had
about
15
or
16
of
those
that
turned
out
to
be
false
alarms.
E
We
had
about
30
of
them
that
they
could
not
could
not
determine
because
they
were
either
there
stopped
using
the
blower
by
the
time
they
got
there
or
there
was
nobody
there
and
so,
and
then
there
were
about
9
citations
issued.
So
we're
continuing
to
monitor
that
and
to
see
how
we
can
improve
the
enforcement
process.
It's
very
difficult
because
it
is
so
fast
they're
in
and
out
of
there
in
about
five
or
ten
minutes,
and
even
though
we
may
respond
really
quickly,
they
may
be
gone
by
the
time
we
get
there
so
anyway.
E
B
H
An
observation
from
the
user
side,
our
gardener
I
noticed
on
their
last
visit.
He
had
plugged
some
device
into
one
of
our
outdoor
electrical
outlets
and
I
wasn't
sure
you
know
I
really
didn't
know
so.
I
asked
him
it's
like.
Is
this
a
radio
or
you
anyway?
It
wasn't
it's.
He
was
plugging
in
to
keep
the
electric
back
up
and
I
said.
Well,
that's
really
interesting.
I
have
no
objection
to
you
using
my
power
to
do
that.
H
I
think
it's
wonderful,
but
but
what
happens
if
you're
in
a
location
say
it's
a
summer
home
and
and
they've
shut
off
their
power,
and
you
don't
have
any
way
to
keep
your
batteries
going
and
he
said
in
that
case
I
have
to
revert
back
to
my
gas
blower.
He
has
no
choice
right.
So
just
an
interesting
observation.
E
E
All
right
battery
recycling
Gary
reported
on
our
progress
about
about
240
pounds
so
far
and
about
which
equates
to
about
3800
batteries
have
collected
in
just
the
first
month
and
month
in
a
couple
weeks,
so
we're
hopefully
hopeful
that
that
will
continue
and
we
should
have
about
a
ton
of
batteries
collected
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
think
and.
A
E
B
E
A
E
B
B
E
Yeah,
the
schools
is
a
great
idea
actually
because
they
can
bring
them
home
to
their
families.
Cool
all
right.
So
we'll
continue
to
report
on
the
progress
on
that
and
other
than
that
I.
Don't
think
I've
had
any
questions
or
any
much
response
from
the
public,
except
that
they're
really
excited
to
have
their
there
at
home
collection
boxes
all
right.
So
the
next
topic
is
the
downtown
trash
and
recycling
receptacles
analysis.
E
So,
just
a
little
update
on
what
we've
been
doing
since
then,
so
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
our
goal
is
we
want
to
decide
on
a
system
of
downtown
trash
or
recycling,
containers
that
accommodate
current
and
anticipated
types
and
volumes
of
materials
to
help
increase
the
city's
waste
diversion
rates
and
for
the
most
part,
maintenance?
Is
the
driving
force
behind
this.
So
we're
really
working
closely
with
the
maintenance
staff
to
understand
what
their
needs
are.
Preferences
are
and
those
will
really
drive
the
decision
about
the
purchase.
E
So
we
have
conducted
some
outreach
on
this.
We
heard
feedback
at
the
Main
Street
meeting
back
in
July.
We
did
meet
with
maintenance.
We
met
with
the
Main
Street
Board
met
with
city
manager,
maintenance
and
city
council
member
just
last
week,
and
then
we
conducted
a
limited
waste
audit
of
part
of
the
downtown
area,
which
was
very
interesting.
E
So
just
to
recap,
the
existing
containers
are
a
mixture
downtown.
They
are
mostly
the
concrete
square
containers
and
the
circ
around
containers
that
you
see
there
there's
a
few
of
the
test,
containers
that
were
purchased
for
la
plaza
area
and
then
the
rest
of
the
there
are
a
few
new
ones
in
the
great
development
area.
E
Most
people
agree
they're,
not
pretty
they're
generally
functional,
they
do
have
limited
messaging
on
them.
So
there
are
a
few
containers
that
do
have
some
recycling
placards
on
them,
but
none
of
them
really
say
trash,
so
so,
there's
fairly
limited
messaging
on
them,
they're,
pretty
they've
been
pretty
durable.
They've
got
large
openings,
which
is,
on
the
one
hand,
is
good.
On
the
other
hand,
it's
bad
because
some
of
the
merchants
are
actually
throwing
their
trash
in
there.
E
They
can
throw
their
whole
bag
in
there
and
a
lot
of
the
the
reason
that
the
openings
are
so
big
is
because
the
tops
have
been
stolen.
So
a
lot
of
people
stole
the
metal,
tops
to
recycle
them
and
get
the
money.
So
so
that's
a
challenge
that
we
face
and
then
they're
repainted
regularly
and
the
condition
varies
based
on
what
was
that.
So
what
was
in
the
containers
when
we
did
our
little
survey
analysis
was
a
lot
of
food
packaging
and
food
waste.
E
So
for
the
most
part
it
was
cups
and
food
containers,
a
lot
of
ice
cream
containers
and
a
lot
of
beverage
containers.
So
that
was
the
primary
thing
that
was
in
there.
It
was
hard
to
tell
how
much
recycling
was
in
the
containers,
because
a
lot
of
it
gets
picked
through
by
those
in
need.
They
come
through
and
collected
up
for
money
and
so
anyway.
So
that
gives
you
a
sense
of
what's
in
there
again
plastic
cups,
paper
cups,
where
the
primary
things
that
were
in
there
and
related
food
we're
so.
E
So,
based
on
the
information
that
we
got
from
people
and
the
things
that
we
saw,
these
are
some
of
the
parameters
that
we've
identified
so
far.
It
has
to
be
at
least
24
gallons.
The
inner
liner
has
to
be
easy
to
replace
and
we'll
hold
a
bag
in
place.
They
have
to
be
resistant
to
the
effect
of
Sun
&
powerwashing,
grilled
exteriors
were
preferred
to
defer
graffiti
other
functional
requirements,
including
getting
easy
access
for
the
maintenance,
crew
and
also
non
removable
tops,
which
continues
to
be
a
problem.
F
E
A
E
In
addition,
design
and
placement,
so
what
we
have
observed
is
that
we
need
separate,
but
paired
recycling
and
trash
containers
where
practicable
and
where
needed,
to
accommodate
volume.
So
we
don't
necessarily
that
think
that
every
trash
current
trash
container
needs
a
paired
recycling
container
I
think
we
need
to
think
strategically
about
location
recycling.
A
trash
container
should
be
visibly
different
and
mess
in
with
messaging
in
color,
and
there
should
be
consistency
throughout
the
downtown.
E
So
again,
almost
all
of
that
stuff
in
there
was
as
a
result
of
the
restaurants
and
the
foodservice
places
that
are
along
Main
Street.
There
are
a
lot
of
Palm,
Canyon
and
then
entrepreneurial
recyclers
activities
mean
that
containers
may
not
matter
much
for
CRV
bottles
and
cans.
So
again
they
are
probably
going
to
harvest
that
stuff,
no
matter
what
we
put
it
in
and
but
if
we
have
more
recycling
containers
there
there's
more
of
a
chance
that
people
are
going
to
separate
that
stuff
out.
E
A
Thank
you
for
the
background.
As
you
see
in
the
agenda,
we
do
have
a
motion.
We've
been
requested
by
city
manager,
city
manager,
David
ready
to
make
a
recommendation
about
the
types
of
trash
and
recycling
containers
that
should
be
purchased
by
the
by
the
city
authorized
by
the
City
Council.
So
I'm
gonna
ask
co-chair
Vice,
Chair
McCann
to
read
the
motion
and
then
I'll
ask
for
a
second
and
then
there'll
be
time
for
more
discussion.
H
The
sustainability
Commission
recommends
that
the
city
purchased
stand-alone,
not
combined
trash
and
recycling
containers
for
the
downtown
uptown
business
districts
that
can
be
paired
when
necessary
to
encourage
effective
recycling.
The
containers
must
meet
the
following
requirements:
trash
containers
shall
be
gray
and
recycling
containers
shall
be
blue,
they
shall
have
non
removable
tops,
they
shall
be
of
a
similar
design,
but
have
appropriate
openings
and
markings
to
differentiate,
trash
and
recycling.
A
E
A
It
turns
out
that
the
there
are
liners
in
there,
but
the
bags
easily
slip
into
the
liners
and
so
that
anything
after
a
while
that
is
thrown
into
the
container
goes
on
top
of
the
bag
and
just
pushes
the
bag
to
the
bottom
of
the
liner,
and
so
it's
very
difficult
for
the
maintenance
staff
to
empty
the
containers.
They
have
to
take
the
liners
out,
take
a
bag
and
then
turn
the
liners
upside
down
to
empty
them
into
the
bags.
A
And
so
it
turns
out
that
the
concrete
containers
that
have
been
used
have
liners
that
seem
to
have
a
lip
and
they
hold
the
bags
and
that
that's
not
a
problem.
So
it's
a
very
specific
requirement.
But
all
of
these
this
motion
is
very
long,
but
all
of
these
came
out
of
a
several
meetings
that
we
had.
We.
A
F
Is
there
a
way
that
I
mean
I?
Think
for
me
to
vote
for
this?
J
H
E
E
B
E
I
think
there
may
be
a
way
to
deal
with
that
outside
of
the
bag
going
into
the
recycling.
So
I
can
work
with
maintenance
on
that
question
to
deal
with
it
on
the
other
side,
because
one
of
the
things
I
know
that
they've
started
doing
is
actually
putting
the
recycling
into
blue
bags
so
that
they
can
keep
them
separate
so
that
they
go
into
a
separate
place
when
they
come
back
to
the
yard
to
be
taken
away.
E
C
E
F
Well,
it's
just
eventually
our
recycling
should
not
be
a
mess,
but
we're.
F
A
big
sign:
that's
to
educate
people
there
at
our
site
and
says
you
know
this
thing
about
plastic
bags
and
there
we
have
a
plastic
bag
in
it.
It's
a
mixed
message,
so
we're
gonna
have
I
would
like.
First
of
all,
you
can
have
liners
that's
a
good
idea,
but
maybe
if
we
could,
why
do
we
have
to
say
bags
here
could
say
everything
else,
but
don't
say
bags,
because
something
else
is
going
to
have
to
replace
the
plastic.
F
B
B
A
A
H
Nation
and
it's
not
plastic,
it's
not
saying
plastic
bags
so
funny
if
I
could
respond
it
up
at
a
higher
level
that
the
big
win
here
is
is
earlier
in
this
motion.
It's
that
we
got
me
essentially
jr.
Roberts
and
the
city
commissioners
and
and
Reedy,
and
all
of
these
people
to
agree
not
to
go
for
that
bad
container
that
they
were
coming
into
the
meeting
wanting
we've
got
them
to
go
for
paired.
We've
got
them
to
go
for
differentiate.
It
I
think
this.
C
To
the
tear
point
about
what
these
liners
are
made
from,
the
concept
of
the
liner
is
a
great
idea.
It
helps
contain
it
all
of
that,
but
using
the
plastic
is
a
problem.
There
are
other
things,
so
I
would
say
yes
to
the
idea
of
the
liner.
That's
great,
but
I
would
feel
very
uncomfortable
about
going
going
forward
with
plastic
liners.
A
The
difference
between
the
liners
in
the
bags
is
that
the
liners
should
be
there
as
long
as
the
containers
are
that
they're
permanent
they
won't
be
thrown
away
every
time,
and
the
suggestion
about
the
bags
is
a
very
good
one
that
we
need
to
consider.
But
the
the
liners
are
part
of
the
container
and.
E
A
So
one
implicit
think
that
Commission
Commissioner
McCann
pointed
out
was
that
this
recommendation,
which
was
based
upon
our
discussion
with
dr.
Reddy
and
jr.
Roberts
and
others,
does
eliminate
that
one
dual
purpose
container
that
has
been
used
that
we
have
been
basically
not
happy
with
all
along,
but
one
other
one
other
point
there
is
that
the
concrete
containers
that
are
in
the
business
district
will
be
replaced.
You
know
in
our
discussions
with
the
downtown
business
association
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
push
for
keeping
those
containers.
A
The
city
maintenance
staff
really
made
a
strong
recommendation
to
replace
them,
because
a
lot
of
them
are
in
bad
condition
and
they
need
to
be
painted
quite
frequently
and
if
they
need
to
be
sandblasted,
they
need
to
be
picked
up
from
the
location
and
taken
to
the
city
yard
and
then
sandblasted
in
painting
that's
very
time
consuming
and
expensive.
Those
containers
I
think,
are
10
or
20
years
old,
20
20
years
old.
A
So
so
the
the
recommendation
was
not
to
keep
them
but
to
replace
them,
but
the
strategy
will
be
as
we
have
described,
where
we
will
have
recycling
and
and
trash
containers.
One
thing
that
I
would
like
to
recommend
and
are
just
little
fraud
is
that
those
concrete
containers
that
are
in
good
shape
could
be
redeployed
in
other
places,
particularly
in
the
the
new
downtown
parking
garage
I.
Think
right
now
they
only
have
cardboard
trash
containers,
so
that
might
be
a
location
to
use
some
of
the
concrete
containers
that
are
that
are
in
good
condition.
A
B
I'm
just
wondering
if
if
this
motion
passes
and
was
to
go
to
council,
can
we
include
a
couple
of
bulleted
recommendations
with
it
to
just
address
that
we'd
like
to
see
non
plastic
liners
and
biodegradable
bags
if
possible,
so
that,
or
at
least
you
know,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
contained
within
the
motion
but
I
share.
The
other
commissioners
concerns
that
we
don't
want
it
to
be
Plast,
be
using
single-use
plastic
bag
stole
dirt.
Even
our
trash,
not
just
the
recycling,
but.
A
H
Just
I
just
like
to
quickly
reinforce
that
what
Roy
said
it.
That's
that's
another
aspect
on
their
dimension,
that's
a
really
big
win
for
us
is
that
the
city
is
eager
and
in
everyone's
in
agreement
that
they
want
to
replace
and
they
want
to
replace
with
something
consistent
and
we've
been
pushing
for
consistent
containers
from
the
word
go
here.
So
I
think
it's
good
Commissioner
Froome.
G
A
H
C
B
E
Yeah,
we
don't
want
to
make
it
too
complicated,
but
and-
and
I
will
say
that
the
other
component
of
this
is
that,
based
on
the
what
we
were
seeing,
that
was
going
into
the
containers,
we're
really
focusing
on
bottles
and
cans,
and
at
this
point
that
may
change
down
the
road
and
with
the
kind
of
recommendations,
maybe
that
we
have
for
the
plastic
food.
Where
restrictions
that
kind
of
thing
that
may
change
down
the
road
but
but
are
at
least
initially
I,
think
we're
focusing
mostly
on
bottles
and
cans.
But.
H
I'll
just
amend
that
a
little
bit
the
confusion
is,
is
what
people
are
putting
in
both
recycle
containers
and
in
trash
containers,
and
so
I
think
that
we
will
need
very
clear
signage,
not
just
for
the
bottle
and
cans
focus
on
the
recycle
containers.
But
what
you
should
be
throwing
into
the
trash
containers
yeah
absolutely.
E
E
F
It
sounds
like
you're
saying
that
we
vote
on
this
or
we
don't
vote
on
anything
and,
of
course,
I
absolutely
agree
with
the
wonderful
work
that
has
been
done
to
finally
get
it
to
this
point
and
by
golly
we're
going
to
do
it,
you
know
but
I,
don't
we
want
to
be
pretty
clear
about
it
too
and
I
think
if
we
can
just
say,
and
they
still
have
liners
period,
why
do
they
have
to?
What
do
we
even
have
to
say
they
have
to
hold
bags
do?
Why
do
we
have
to
be
that
specific
and.
A
F
A
G
Thank
You
chair
Clark
a
couple
of
things
here:
first,
as
manager
Tallarico
just
mentioned,
solar
ordinance
goes
before
the
City
Council
next
Wednesday
its
24th.
It
was
approved
unanimously
by
the
Planning
Commission
on
June
26th.
Once
the
staff
report,
which
I've
essentially
drafted
along
with
the
ordinance,
are
formally
issued.
G
No
comment
once
those
are
efficiently
put
on
the
agenda
for
the
council
meeting
on
Thursday
night
I'll
prepare
public
comment
to
indicate
that
our
Commission
has
approved
the
the
zoning
ordinance
and
may
make
that
to
have
it
map
reviewed
by
manager
Talarico
and
make
that
public
comment
at
the
24th
next,
as
I
mentioned
last
month,
commissioners
Baker
and
Miller
and
I
had
the
gang
of
three
over.
Here
we
were
named
to
the
Community
Advisory
Committee
of
desert
Community
Energy,
and
we
had
our
orientation
meeting
last
Thursday
afternoon.
G
One
of
the
first
things
on
our
workload
as
the
committee
is
that
we
will
be
reviewing
responses
to
an
RFP.
The
TCE,
slash
sea
bag
will
issue
shortly
for
consultant
and
develop
an
enhanced
enrollment
program
for
the
SoCalGas
and
s
low
income
assistance
programs.
There
are
18,000
customers
currently
signed
up
for
in
the
3dc
Cities
meeting
Palm
Springs
Palm,
Desert
and
Cathedral
city
staff.
Dc
staff
estimates
that
more
than
6,000
customers
are
eligible
for
enrollment
not
currently
signed
up.
So
it
will
be
a
two-year
project
to
work
with
various
stakeholders,
religious
organizations,
faith.
G
You
know
various
NGOs
community
organizations
to
get
up
the
enrollment.
We
also
learned
that
the
meetings
as
a
result
of
Palm
Springs
adopting
the
100%
carbon
free
product
as
the
default
option
when
DCE
launches
next
year,
probably
in
the
fall,
our
annual
greenhouse
gas
emissions
will
be
reduced
from
four
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
to
three
hundred
and
thirteen
thousand
metric
tons,
which
is
more
than
a
25%
reduction.
G
The
1990
GHG
level
was
approximately
four
hundred
and
thirty
two
thousand
metric
tons,
so
we'll
make
good
progress
on
the
sustainability
plan
goal
of
reducing
GHG
emissions
to
80
percent
below
1990
levels
by
2050.
So
with
30
years
still
to
go,
we'll
have
made.
You
know
already
a
approximately
almost
a
third
of
what
we
need
to
go.
You
may
recall
that
last
year
we
had
one
the
sole
smart
award
for
our
solar
areas.
G
They
have
an
Innovation
Award,
so
I'll
be
preparing
a
submission
and
perhaps
we'll
get
a
little
another
pat
on
the
back
from
the
National
League
of
Cities.
There
we're
working
closely
with
seve,
AG
and
DV
ba
on
the
energy
code
training
session
tentatively.
That
will
be
the
week
of
October.
21St
will
most
likely
have
a
presentation
by
the
energy
code
East,
which
is
a
training
program
sponsored
by
SoCal
gas,
SCE,
PG&E
and
ste.
G
So
essentially,
that's
covered
by
our
electricity
and
gas
bills,
hopefully
a
very
small
to
no
hit
on
the
Commission
budget,
because
they
do
that
training
for
free
and
then
we'll
work
with
seabag
to
go
over
the
UCR
and
have
them
cover
some
of
the
costs.
You
know
I
think
we
have
you
know.
Last
year
we
didn't
spend
anything,
maybe
be
500
to
a
thousand
if
we
get
it
to
zero,
even
better
and
then
finally
meander
teller,
Rico's
working
with
Commissioner
Flanagan
on
the
UV
chargers,
so
I'll.
Let
him
do
an
update
on
that.
So.
E
Just
quickly,
we've
been
meeting
with
engineering
to
assess
the
various
locations
throughout
the
city
where
we
were
thinking
of
putting
additional
Chargers
we've
also
been
investigating
fee-based
charging
systems,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
more
complicated
than
just
adding
some
Chargers.
So
we're
gonna
meet
with
SCE
tomorrow
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
power
supply
to
some
of
these
places.
So
that's
that's
basically,
where
we're
at
with
that,
but
I'm
hoping
this
summer
to
really
get
all
that
nailed
down
and
roll
something
out
in
the
fall.
So.
E
So
you
heard
a
little
bit
about
the
battery
recycling
program.
The
food
food
wear
plastic
ordinance
draft
will
be
developed
in
the
coming
months.
We'll
be
doing
some
outreach
on
that
over
the
next
couple
of
months
and
then
we
had
Rob
and
Lani.
We're
just
gonna
give
a
quick
update
on
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
on
some
of
these
other
fronts,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Rob.
First,
on
the
public
spaces
side.
H
H
So
then
Roy
and
Patrick
did
the
east
side
of
a
downtown
area
and
gary-
and
I
did
the
west
side
gary
and
I
did
not
collect
information
down
to
the
level
that
Roy
and
Patrick
did,
and
so
Patrick
and
I
got
together
and
I
took
his
data
and
come
ransom
numbers
on
it
and
I'm.
Just
gonna
show
you
what
we
discovered
out
of
those
numbers.
So
next.
H
This,
if
you
look
at
the
categories
here,
this
is
the
categories
that
I
was
able
to
get
data
and
consolidate
from
both
the
east
side
and
the
west
side
and
I
want
to
draw
your
attention.
You
know,
I've
showed
you
this
before
so
I
just
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
two
of
the
categories.
The
drink
cups
you'll
see
that
about
26
or
27
percent
of
the
waste
in
these
town
count
containers
were
drink
cups
and
then
the
other
one
over
to
the
right
is
miscellaneous
plastic.
We
found
a
lot
of
miscellaneous
plastic
too.
H
So
luckily,
Patrick
and
Roy
broke
down
those
two
categories
and
that's
what
I'm
gonna
show
you
tonight
is
well
what
was
miscellaneous
plastic
and
and
what
kinds
of
drink
cups
are
we
talking
about?
And
then
I'll
just
have
a
couple
of
words
to
say
about
why
I
think
that's
important,
so
the
next
one
we
broke
the
drink
cups
and
we're
able
to
break
to
break
them
down
into
paper.
H
So
you'll
see
the
first
arrow
that
was
about
10%
of
the
total,
and
this
is
now
just
trash
containers
that
there's
none
of
the
there
weren't
any
recycle
containers
on
the
east
side,
so
paper,
drink
cups
about
10
percent
plastic,
drink
cups
of
a
value
of
greater
than
two.
These
are.
These
are
just
flat-out
non-recyclables
and
they
were
you
know
as
the
amount
to
six
or
seven
percent.
H
Then
I
want
to
jump
over
just
to
over
to
get
to
the
plastic,
food
and
and
food
where
the
this
is
utensils
essentially
and
straws
and
lids.
We
broke
that
out
of
the
miscellaneous
plastic
and
you'll
see
we
you
find
that
there's
most
of
the
miscellaneous
plastic
is
actually
that
kind
of
food
where
so
that
that's
really
useful
to
us,
because
again
we
were
talking
earlier
Gregg
about
do.
We
need
good
signage
for
the
trash
containers
as
well
as
a
recycle
and
I
think
this
is
an
example
of
yes.
H
We
do
a
lot
of
people
think
that
this
kind
of
stuff
is
recyclable
and
it's
not
so
if
we
can
get
nice
imagery
up
there
and
and
words
that
say
no,
if
you
have
any
kind
of
utensils
like
this
put
them
in
the
trash
containers
and
not
the
recycle,
and
that's
that's
kind
of
a
take-home
message
from
this
and
I
probably
don't
need
to
belabor
it.
But
these
other
categories
that
we
break
down.
H
Also
we're
telling
us
what
kinds
of
items
that
people
are
confused
about
and
right
now,
they're
just
throwing
them
either
into
trash
containers
or
recycle
containers.
Can
we
get
the
signage
to
clean
up
the
confusion
and
and
get
more
of
the
right
kind
of
stuff
into
the
right
container.
So
these
data
that
we
collected
have
been
quite
useful
on
that
okay,
one
more
slide
where
I
think
I've
kind
of
already
gone
ahead
and
and
summarize
what
we're
talking
about
the
paper.
H
Drink
cups,
they're
they're
good
in
the
in
the
sense
that
they're
compostable,
probably,
but
they
are
definitely
designed
for
trash
or
they
should
be
going
in
trash
containers,
not
recycle
containers,
and-
and
so
we
need
to
get
to
work
now
on
developing
these
icons.
For
these
different
types,
types
of
beverage
containers
had
the
plastic
few
food
utensils
to
the
trash
signage
plastic
straws
should
become
part
of
the
trash
signage,
not
recycle,
and,
and
then
this
last
one
is,
is
where
things
are
starting
to
converge
with
the
potential
plastics
ban
that
we've
been
talking
about.
H
So
yeah
we
should
be.
We
should
be
looking
at
this.
We
should
be
seeing
them
if
we
can
go
back
to
manufacturers,
maybe
and
get
them
to
change
their
packaging,
and
then
one
more
thing
is
Patrick
had
a
great
idea
at
this
meeting,
which
is
the
things
that
are
most
confusable,
which
is
which
are
the
drink
cups,
maybe,
as
part
of
our
ordinance,
we
can
get
manufacturers
to
start
putting
something
very,
very
specific
labels
on
the
actual
items
that
say
this
is
recyclable,
or
this
is
trash.
H
C
G
C
But
it
already
exists
has
great
mouthfeel.
You
can
get
things
that
are
made
from
from
rice
all
kinds
of
natural
products
that
will
degrade,
but
they
have
a
good
mouthfeel
and
it
doesn't
have
that
pick
you
and
they
actually
function.
So
you
don't
have
like
a
funky
fork
that
you're
pretending
to
eat
with
it's.
They
actually
work
but
they're.
You
know,
or
even
like
the
little
wooden
paddles
old-fashioned
for
ice
cream
and
things
like
that.
C
It's
fun
it
biodegrades
and
it
it
doesn't,
have
a
bad
taste
so
they're
they
already
exists
so
making
maybe
providing
a
list
of
these
providers
to
the
companies,
so
they
can
browse
and
and
make
their
own
decisions,
but
I
think
putting
that
that
recyclable,
graphic
embossed,
usually,
but
in
a
place
where
you're
going
to
notice.
That
makes.
I
C
C
What's
the
point,
it's
like
the
clasp
collapsing
Santa
liners
in
the
in
the
bags
like
what's
the
point,
so
it
does
exist
in
there
better.
They
look
good
and
it
makes
the
you
know
the
takeout
more
fun.
It's
not
just
styrofoam
in
hor,
and
that
does
affect
the
quality
of
your
food
and
that
being
said
with
the
food,
particularly
the
receipts,
the
thermal
heat
receipts
that
they
use
in
most
of
the
cash
registers
and
food
restaurants,
but
take
out
and
they'll
even
put
it
on
the
plates.
C
You
know
before
they
take
it
to
the
the
process
when
that
tape
comes
out
is
so
toxic,
so
the
cashier
anybody
who's
handling
it
the
way
staff
people
taking
it
home
for
their
receipts,
there
they're
being
exposed
to
some
very
dangerous
chemicals.
The
difference
is
that
you
can
get
perfectly
non-toxic
that
work
in
the
same
cash
registers
non-toxic
it's
made
in
Wisconsin.
It
costs
the
same
and
it's
food
and
it's
healthy.
But
it's
shocking
to
me.
C
I
live
right
near
John's,
I,
go
there
a
lot
and
I
see
it
all
the
time
where
they'll
take
the
receipt,
she's
handling
their
seats
and
the
food,
and
she
puts
it
right
on
top
of
the
food,
my
gosh,
you
know,
and
here's
this
young
woman
at
the
cash
you
know
cashiering
all
day
with
receipts.
What's
gonna
happen
to
her
health,
so
most
people
aren't
aware
of
that.
But
it's
a
simple
thing:
you
don't
have
to
get
new
machinery
and
new
cash
registers.
It's
just
the
cash,
the
tape
that
you
have
to
replace
anyway.
E
F
You
got
him
on
a
lot
faster
than
I
did
anyway.
So
you
know
it's
it's
about
reusing,
because
your
issues
with
the
composter
walls
anyway,
I,
don't
want
to
preach
too
much
of
the
quiet
over.
There
is
my
slide
and
to
make
you
all
feel
a
lot
better
right
at
the
outset.
The
lower
three
categories-
I'm
not
even
going
to
talk
to
because
they're
kind
of
obvious
it's
just
you
want
to
debate
a
little
bit
about
what
goes
where
in
terms
of
our
signage
or
whatnot.
F
It's
not
worth
the
time
right
now
tonight
to
talk
about
them,
but
I
do
what
did
want
to
talk
about
the
other
four
and
this
as
a
result
of
my
little
excursion
to
Starbucks.
These
are
small
items,
there's
the
problem
with
small
items
and
that
there's
a
you
know.
Those
are
examples
of
them
and
I'll
explain
that
that
red
mesh
in
just
a
minute,
why
you
can't?
So?
Why
can't
you
put
that
in
a
recycling.
F
Very
good
it's,
but
it's
not,
but
the
main
reason
for
that.
One
is
because
there's
essentially
no
market
for
it
number
one
and
number
two:
they
Jam
up
the
conveyor
belts
on
the
optical
sorters
in
a
bad
way,
so
you
throw
them
in
the
garbage.
Most
people
would
yeah
see
I
mean
that's
so
just
right
there
we
could
make
our
our
recycling
process
better.
F
Okay,
then,
the
famous
paper
beverage
container-
this
is
hot
or
cold
there's
every
indication.
This
is
not
recyclable.
When
I
went
into
Starbucks
to
dig
through
their
garbage,
they
were
helping
me
because
they
everybody
that
works
at
starbucks
knows
none
of
nothing
that
they
give
to.
Anybody
is
recyclable,
and
I
mean
it's
a
joke
really
and
they
have
these
fabulous
containers
and
by
the
way,
in
terms
of
developing
new
containers.
Starbucks
join
with
what
the
circle-k
I
think
three
years
ago
to
find
a
better
recyclable
beverage
container
they've
never
found
one
but
okay.
B
F
Had
a
triple
cream
heavy
cream
latte
with
stevia
anyway.
So,
but
you
can
see,
there's
contamination
in
this
the
potential
and
but
the
main
thing
with
this
is
the
plastic
lining
and
it's
in
all
of
the
it
looks
like
pure
paper,
but
no
there's
plastic
lining
in
all
of
them,
plus
the
biohazard,
and
that's
where
you
get.
You
know
other
people's
contamination
in
there
too,
and
it
goes
into
the
recycling
yep.
So.
F
Okay,
plastic
bags,
all
right,
so
any
size
shape,
doesn't
matter
what
kind
of
is
ever
brought.
This
is
this
pretty
cool
I
like
that
bag
and
I'm,
going
to
use
it
for
a
long
time?
Cuz.
It's
gonna,
be
on
this
planet
for
a
long
time,
it's
strong
plastic,
but
they
we
can't
put
them
in
our
recycling
cans,
and
you
know
why
they're
called
Tanglers
and
what
they
do
is
they
get
jammed
again
and
the
conveyor
belts
in
a
different
way
than
the
small
items
do,
but
they
still
get
jammed.
Nevertheless,
and
when
you
see
these.
F
Like
it
eat
up
hell,
if
you
go
there,
you
see
everything
comes
in
a
plastic
bag
and
when
we
went-
and
we
looked
at
in
the
city
dump
area
behind
it-
you
know
City
Hall,
here
every
big
humongous
black
plastic
bags
filled
with
stuff
and
then
the
about
in
Southeast
Asia.
But
that's
another
story
anyway.
So
so
why
can't
they
be
used?
They're
called
Tanglers
they've
jammed
the
conveyer
belts
and
we
have
found
no
evidence
whatsoever
that
they
are
resize
the
number
one
finding
on
beaches
or
in
the
ocean
or
cigarette
butts.
F
F
F
This
plastic
resin
is
number
six
and
it
is
very
frequently
you
saw
I
passed
around
that
other
okay
yeah
in
foodservice
containers.
They
can
also
come
as
a
packing
material
called
peanuts
or
ghost
poop,
depending
on
what
part
of
the
region
you're
from
but
they're
these
little.
You
know
you
know
talking
about.
They
lack
market
value
and
should
not
be
put
in
recycling
bins.
F
The
block
polystyrene,
though,
does
apparently
have
a
value,
although
I
did
not
find
it
on
this
list,
and
this
is
a
Burrtec
Murph
list,
a
positive
in
that
direction.
So
I'm
really
wondering
what
goes
on
with
that.
The
problem
with
the
block
polystyrene
that
we
all
get
if
we
go
on
by
a
television
set
or
a
lamp,
is
you
have
this
big
humongous
thing?
F
It
has
to
do
with
the
earth
and
the
environment
because
when
it's
heated
but
we've
all
known
for
years
decades
that
if
you
heat
your
take-home
food
in
a
polystyrene
container,
that
the
heat
releases-
toxins
from
the
styrene
well,
the
same
thing
happens
when
you
produce
polystyrene.
The
same
thing
happens
when
you
recycle
polystyrene.
So
why
are
we
using
polystyrene?
F
But
the
good
news
is
that
if
you
go
back
to
some
of
the
retail
places
that
where
you
buy
your
television
set
like
Costco
I
asked
them
specifically
this
weekend
and
lamps
plus,
but
I'm
sure
there
are
other
ones,
but
of
course,
you'd
have
to
buy
locally.
You
know
you
wouldn't
get
it
probably
with
Amazon,
or
maybe
you
could
I
don't
know.
I
haven't
check
that
out,
but
you
can
return
it.
Oh.
B
One
thing
is:
how
do
we
educate
people
like
I,
only
learned
from
you
back
during
the
convention
about
certain
things
that
should
not
go
into
the
recycling
bin?
So
would
it
be
a
better
approach
to
start
with
our
school
kids
and
work
on
recycling
programs
with
them,
because
I
remember
during
the
70s
when
the
energy
crisis
I
was
always
someone
nagging
my
parents
about
turning
off
the
lights,
not
letting
in
the
water
running
when
you
brush
your
teeth,
because
that's
what
they
taught
us
at
school.
F
Yeah
I
agree
and
a
hundred
percent
on
that,
and,
in
fact,
I
think
part
of
our
program
should
be
a
master's
in
recycling
educational
program
for
adults
and
children
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
you
guys
are
on
the
front
line.
The
reason
why
we
present
this
to
you
is
so
that
you
can
go
out
and
tell
people
now
it's
not
I
mean.
Is
that?
Okay,
it's
not
too
soon
for
this
stuff
right.
We
have
a
number
of
things.
G
I'm
as
guilty
as
anybody
about
what
I
think
the
article
that
you
circulated
is
aspirational
recycling.
This
really
should
be
recyclable.
It's
not
so.
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
kind
of
scary,
healthy
road
to
hell
as
I
say,
is
paved
with
good
intentions.
So
that's
part
of
it.
G
It
would
be
useful
to
work
with
PSD
s
to
get
some
inserts
or
stuff
on
their
website,
so
that
people
actually
know
you
may
think
this
is
recyclable,
but
actually
it's
not
so
it
goes
in
the
trash,
the
downtown
all
of
the
signage
downtown,
it's
great
for
our
visitors
and
when
we're
downtown.
But
so
many
of
these
decisions
are
actually
like,
literally
in
our
kitchens
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
where
you
know,
I
have
two
bins
and
which
bin
does
it
go
into
and
I
often
get
that
wrong,
so
any
education.
C
You
with
some
of
the
packaging
just
for
the
for
the
hot
beverage
drink,
for
example,
you
can
get
on
the
market
now
and
it's
affordable,
maybe
actually
less
depending
on
volume,
but
with
those
strengths
that
they
don't
they're
hundreds
of
percent
paper.
They
don't
leak.
They're
gonna
hold
up
to
a
hot
beverage.
You
know
sitting
on
your
lap
for
a
while
and
they're,
not
plasticizer
or
waxed
in
any
way,
and
that
exists.
The
other
thing,
which
is
a
great.
C
Other
thing,
which
is
great
for
inventory
space
and
time,
is
it's
just
better
design
that
caps
that
would
go
on
the
they
have
a
universal
one.
Now.
So,
instead
of
the
retailer
having
to
provide
a
small,
medium,
large
and
and
everything
else,
and
then
maybe
a
straw,
it's
actually
a
Universal
top
that
has
a
straw,
sippy
kind
of
on
it,
but
it
fits
on
each
size,
so
they
buy
one
top.
They
display
one
top.
F
Think
these
are
just
fabulous
ideas,
but
it
doesn't
I'm
finding
much
it's
a
little
this
morning
that
things
don't
move
quite
as
quickly
as
I'd
like
them
to
the
way
we
can
get
a
an
upgraded
recycling
program
out.
This
fall,
that's
with
signage
I
think
we
can
all
pat
ourselves
on
the
back
and
I'd
love
to
have
you
on
the
committee,
the.
C
C
But
the
idea
that
they're
using
basically
a
paper
product
as
as
as
a
non
nonwoven
material,
but
it's
it's
replacing
their
plastic,
it's
nice
and
soft.
It
takes
graphic
printing
great
and
it
was
nice
enough
that
she
saved
it
and
she's,
and
then
she
thought
I
should
go.
Show
this
to
Sandra
she'd
be
interested.
I
was
very
impressed
and
typically
JC.
Penney's
is
not
a
leader
in
progressive
retail
packaging,
but
it
was
a
great
idea:
I'll
bring
it
in
it's
like
you
like
it
and
it
feels
good
in
your
hand,
and
you
can
use
it.
C
F
Are
really
being
methodical
about
checking
everything
out
before
we
print
signs,
and
this
is
only
for
one
year
that
will
these
signs
are
going
to
be
printed
for
because
things
are
going
to
change,
but
we're
really
and
thanks.
My
colleague
Patrick
here
who
was
you
know,
put
the
reins
on
me
several
times:
no,
no.
We
gotta
check
this
out
mm-hmm
and
so
and
I
appreciate
that
and
that's
why
this
list
is
as
short
as
it
is
right.
E
I
will
just
say
that
we
are
I
just
reiterate
that
we're
trying
to
just
be
very
careful
about
this,
not
only
because
it's
important
to
get
it
right
as
right
as
we
can,
but
also
because
it
has
a
lot
of
policy
implications
and
program
implications.
So
the
minute
that
we
put
something
on
this
list
to
say,
don't
recycle
this.
It
has
an
impact
on
our
what
we
are
required
to
report
to
the
state,
and
so
that
connection
has
to
be
made
very
carefully
and
we
in
conjunction
with
PSD
s.
E
So
so
there's
lots
of
moving
parts
to
this
and
it's
very
complicated
and
it
has
to
be
done
quickly
because
things
are
changing
very
fast.
So
so
again,
we've
got
all
these
things
sort
of
coming
together
and
again
it
just
has
a
lot
of
components
to
it,
so
we're
trying
to
be
as
as
as
as
precise
as
we
can
be,
given
the
information
that
we
have,
but
also
try
to
move
forward
in
a
way.
That's
that's
helpful
and
fairly
quick.
So.
A
E
So
the
only
update
I
have
from
folks
is
that
I
I've
been
trying
to
reach
out
to
our
program
manager
for
at
scag
and
I
have
not
heard
back
from
him
since
I
gave
him
the
updated
scope
of
work,
so
nothing
to
report
on
that
front,
but
we
have
actually
gotten
some
good
feedback
on
some
places
that
we
need
to
think
about
in
terms
of
improving
both
from
Bob
Barrett,
who
was
here
before,
but
also
in
the
talk.
What's
Creek
community
committee
or
I,
don't
know
what
they're
called.
E
A
Good
getting
more
information.
Okay,
then.
The
next
subcommittee
is
World
Environment
Day,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
specific
bullets
here
in
the
agenda,
things
that
we
brought
up
the
last
time
and
basically
there
would
have
been
a
recommendation
to
change
from
an
ad
hoc
subcommittee
to
a
standing
subcommittees.
So
the
reference
to
going
from
two
to
three
that
we
heard
earlier
is
about
adding
World
Environment
Day
as
a
standing
subcommittee.
A
At
this
point,
we
also
would
ask
if
any
any
of
the
commissioners
are
interested
in
joining
that
committee
and
when
the
meeting
meeting
should
start
like
not
a
few
months
before
World
Environment
Day,
but
perhaps
early
or
so.
Those
are
the
reasons
for
the
bullets
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Commissioner
Futterman.
To
add
to
the
discussion.
K
K
B
A
A
The
consensus
before
seemed
to
be
that
we
should
change
it
to
a
standing
subcommittees,
so
if
it
given
I
think
you
can
do
it
as
chair
okay.
So
we
will
then
change
ad
hoc
subcommittee
on
World
Environment
Day
to
standing
Subcommittee
on
World
Environment
Day,
and
if
anybody
else
is
interested
in
participating,
please
notify
Jennifer,
but
as
she
said
that
the
first
meeting
will
be
in
September
so
announce
that
great
I.
B
E
G
B
G
But
the
issue
is
that
under
the
Supreme
Court
decision,
Joyner
again
it's
vegetable-
if
you
have
a
committee
that
consists
of
a
commissioner
and
members
of
the
public,
through
the
exception
to
the
exception,
it's
subject
to
the
Brown
Act
but
I
think
what's
happening.
Is
that
that's
not
what
they
are,
because
essentially
it
is
a
liaison.
There
is
a
committee
of
members
of
the
public
and
then
there's
a
liaison
but
they're
not
jointly
meaning.
G
A
B
E
I'm
sorry,
one
of
the
bullets
under
the
film
advocates
a
world
of
I'm
sorry
world
varmint
date
subcommittee,
was
to
see
if
there
were
any
additional
members.
So
I
wasn't
sure
if
there
were
any
additional
members
that
wanted
to
join,
that
or
and
I
think
you
can
only
have
one
more
so
without
going
over
the.
J
D
A
C
As
I
as
I
started
here,
I
was
invited
to
join
the
planning
committee
for
pride.
So
we
had
our
first
meeting
last
week
and
it
was
interesting
because
they
were
talking
about
the
giveaways
and
the
plastic
candies,
and
you
know
all
of
that
sort
of
thing.
So
we
were
thinking
about
taking
a
new
approach
and
not
you
know
so.
C
The
street
isn't
littered
with
crushed
candy
the
you
know:
kids,
don't
have
rotten
teeth
and
stuff
like
that,
so
but
a
better
way,
I
mean
maybe
even
using
flowers
or
something
something
like
that
as
you
walk
down
the
street
instead
of
giving
out
junk
beads
and
plastic
wrap
candy.
So
even
you
know
I
would
be
me,
I
guess
interfacing
between
here
and
there
so,
but
the
pride
committee
was
very
open
to
any
ideas
and
keeping
pride
sustainable
as
well
as
family-friendly.
So.
A
E
Really
excited
to
report
something
so
we
did
get
signs,
so
these
are
gonna,
be
posted
at
the
trailheads
I
think
six
or
seven
of
them,
and
so
those
will
probably
go
up
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
I'm
putting
together
the
work
order
right
now,
but
these
were
we
got
these
through
sieve
AG
and
they
are
the
ones
that
provide
them
for
the
folks
all
throughout
the
valley.
So
these
are
consistent
with
what
the
signs
are
elsewhere
and
I'm,
working
with
the
Parks
and
Rec
Commission
to
make
sure
that
that
goes
through
them
as
well.
E
H
Thank
you
could
I
add
something
about
the
bighorn
sheep.
Yes,
at
this
point,
I'm
also
very
pleased
to
report
that
there
is
a
press
conference.
That's
been
scheduled
for
Thursday
morning
at
9:00
a.m.
at
the
head
of
Ozma
canyon,
where
the
save
Ozma
Canyon
head
is
going
to
be
giving
a
press
conference
and
reporting
significant
development
that
that
they
have
put
together
enough
pledges
for
funding.
Then
we
can
go
forward.
This
fall
with
a
fundraising
campaign.
H
The
the
discrepancy
now
is
down
to
a
million
dollars
that
they
need
to
raise
from
the
public
in
order
to
come
up
with
enough
money
to
pay
the
developers
to
save
Ozma
Canyon
from
development
and
save
the
bighorn
sheep
that
are
there.
So
anybody
who
would
like
to
show
up
at
9:00
a.m.
at
the
head
of
Boswell,
Canyon
I'll,
be
there
and
I
invite
you
all.
Thank
you.
That's.
B
A
One
thing
I
didn't
want
to
ask
you
Patrick
brought
up
earlier
that
there's
been
a
request
about
alternatives
to
roundup
and
other
chemicals
and
I
was
at
the
City
Council
meeting
when
councilmember
Coors
brought
that
up
and
I
was
trying
to
think
about
how
we
might
approach
that
and
I
wanted
to
ask.
If
that's
something
that
you
might
want
to
look
into.
Okay,
great.
C
That's
the
only
information
they're
going
to
be
getting
are
those
happy
hello,
roundup,
my
friend
commercials
and
I
was
also
shocked
because
I
was
poisoned
in
industrial
poisoning,
which
turned
my
life
upside
down
in
97,
but
I
was
waiting
and
I
rarely
go
into
Home
Depot,
but
I
had
gone
with
a
friend
to
pick
up
some
things
we
were
waiting
in
line.
I
started,
feeling
really
dizzy.
I
turned
around
there
was
a
giant
display
around
behind
me.
I
had
to
leave
and
go
out
in
the
parking
lot
right.
Then
I
was
going
to
faint
it.
C
Does
you
know
it
it?
It
smells
it's
not
contained
in
the
and
it's
so
dangerous.
It's
not
just
poison,
it's
much
worse
than
just
poison,
so
I
think
it's
you
know
for
me.
I
think
it
should
be
illegal
everywhere,
it
shouldn't
be
allowed
to
be
manufactured,
and
it's
such
it
should
not
be
used
here
in
Palm
Springs
period.
G
G
There
will
be
two
divisions
in
the
desert:
hot
springs
area,
east
of
highway
62,
one
division
that
goes
from
highway,
62
to
north
and
northwest
Palm
Springs,
including
little
Tuscany,
viz,
Las,
Palmas,
no
Las
Palmas,
one
Division,
four
central
and
Southwest
Palm
Springs
and
then
finally,
one
for
east
and
southeast
Palm
Springs,
and
the
Cathedral
City
Cove,
which
is
in
the
DWI
service
district
service
area,
and
then
second,
is
the
more
great
news
on
water
conservation,
TWA
and
its
customers
achieved
a
twenty
two
point:
three
percent
reduction
in
potable
water
production
in
June
compared
with
the
same
month
in
2013,
which
is
the
state's
benchmark
year.
G
Cumulative
savings
over
the
last
12
months
period
is
18.1%
from
the
benchmark
and
the
cumulative
savings
beginning
in
June
2016.
When
DWI
put
it's
10
to
13
percent
target
in
places
seventeen
point
six
percent
so
way
over
the
target.
We
continue
our
streak
of
consuming
less
water
each
month
and
in
2018.
So
let's
keep
it
up.
Thank
you.
A
We
talked
about
that
last
month
and
I
think
we
decided
that
since
outreach
was
implicit
when
a
lot
of
the
sub
company
activity
that
we
would
not
have
it
as
a
separate
subcommittee
or
activity,
there's
something
that
you
want
to
bring
out.
Please
please
do,
and
if
that
changes
inappropriate,
we
can
go
back
to
having
a
regular
report.
I.
L
A
Great,
thank
you
and
things
like
this.
We
can
also
include
with
Commissioner
comments
as
well.
Thank
you.
So
the
final
item
in
the
agenda
is
Commissioner
comments
and
upcoming
agenda
development,
remembering
that
our
next
meeting
is
going
to
be
in
September
and
not
not
in
August,
unless
everybody
here
decides
that
they
want
to
meet
in
August,
do.
G
Not
want
to
meet
in
August,
but
I
do
have
a
an
agenda
item
for
September
pursuant
to
section
2.0
602,
o
of
the
Palm
Springs
Municipal
Code.
We
should
have
had
elections
from
chair
and
vice-chair
today,
given
that
Commissioner
Garrett
has
just
joined
us
on
three
commissioners
or
absent
entirely
appropriate
to
defer
that
to
September.
But
I
would
appreciate
if
that
could
be
added
to
the
agenda
for
September.
So
then
we're
compliant
with
the
Municipal
Code
and.