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B
C
A
Okay,
we're
gonna
move
to
public
comments.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
public
Arts
Commission
on
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
public,
Arts
Commission
and
agenda
items.
If
the
member
of
the
public
cannot
be
present
later
in
the
meeting
at
the
time.
The
item
is
heard
by
the
Commission.
Additionally,
members
of
the
public
may
address
the
Commission
on
each
item
listed
on
the
posted
agenda
at
the
time.
Each
item
is
heard.
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D
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A
C
D
D
A
Opposed
very
good:
ok,
we
have
no
presentations,
but
if
you'll
remember
last
month
as
a
presentation
because
they
hadn't
been
on
the
agenda,
the
Palm
Springs
cultural
center
presented
their
idea
for
a
temporary
mural
called
jump
for
joy
by
I,
am
Yola
Baker,
and
so
because
of
the
timing
with
the
application
and
our
meetings
etc.
We
have
put
them
on
the
agenda
today,
but
I've
asked
them
really
just
to
do
an
update
because
we
got
the
full
story
last
month
and
certainly
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
please
ask
them.
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B
D
Michael
Greene
from
the
Palm
Springs,
Cultural,
Center
and
Miriam
bloom,
my
associate.
We
are
just
going
to
give
you
an
update
and
let
you
ask
us
questions
if
you
have
them
give
you
kind
of
a
status
report
on
where
we
are
with
the
project
and
I
think
that's
it.
We
we
did
have
something
that
will
be
on
screen.
I,
think
you
already
have
the
materials
about
the
mural
and
we'll
start
at
the
end
of
it,
because
obviously
we
don't
need
to
go
through
the
whole
thing
again
with
you.
F
Thank
you
for
having
us
back.
First
of
all,
we
took
your
advice
and
it
was
very
good
advice.
Last
time
someone
had
suggested
that
we
do
a
test,
what
a
great
idea,
so
we
have
done
so
we
wanted
to
first
of
all
lend
you
some
confidence
that
we
are
working
with
one
of
the
best
printers
in
the
valley.
Planet
print
works.
F
They
work
with
Palm
Springs
LIFE
modernism
week,
Fashion
Week,
they,
the
Palm
Springs
Art
Museum,
so
they
are
very
adept
in
terms
of
a
fine
art,
they're,
also
very
adept
in
terms
of
outdoor
art,
whether
that
be
signage
building
hoarding
for
developers
or
exhibition.
You
know
outdoor
exhibition
didactics,
so
they
are
working
with
us
and
doing
some
research
in
terms
of
the
paper
we
should
be
using
and
the
type
of
print
we
should
be
using,
so
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
them
on
board
in
terms
of
if
we
could
just
go
to
the
next
slide.
F
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
an
example
of
a
previous
mural,
and
if
we
look
closely
it's
important
that
we
understand
that
the
mural
for
lack
of
a
better
description
is
almost
paper
mache
onto
the
walls,
so
don't
be
worried
if
you
see
paper
or
you
hear
paper
first
of
all.
Secondly,
you
see
that
you
can
actually
feel
and
see
the
building
in
detail
behind
that
paper,
so
you
can
see
exactly
the
cinderblock
and
where
there
you
know,
bubbles
on
the
building
etc.
That's
part
of
the
artwork
and
that's
part
of
the
beauty
of
it.
F
So
if
you
look
at
our
next
slide,
sorry
can
we
turn
to
the
next
slide
just
so
they
can
see.
Thank
you
very
much.
Here's
our
test.
So
this
is
the
exact
wall
on
the
the
Palm
Springs
cultural
center,
we're
testing
four
different
kinds
of
papers
that
have
been
recommended
to
us,
as
well
as
three
kinds
of
UV
coatings:
the
tests.
We
literally
did
it
the
day
after
our
last
meeting.
So
it's
the
better
part
of
a
month
now
and
the
test
has
gone
very
well.
Two
of
the
papers
are
exceptionally
good.
F
She
uses
a
standard
weak
glue
to
fix
the
paper
to
the
building
and
two
of
the
papers.
I
think
it's
a
thirty-six
pound
in
a
24
pound
paper,
which
is
nice
and
readily
available,
is
working
best.
It
is
in
terms
of
the
sun
exposure,
there's
actually
zero
degradation,
at
least
to
the
naked
eye.
The
wheat
glue
is
holding
up
beautifully.
We've
also
done
a
little
bit
of
a
water
test,
and
it's
it's
it's
holding
up
exactly
as
we
had
anticipated.
Now
it's
a
30
day
test.
F
F
And
then,
finally,
just
as
an
addition
to
the
information
that
we
provided
you
last
time,
Yola
is
done.
As
you
know,
these
murals
before
and
one
in
Vancouver,
was
in
the
Downtown
Eastside
and
that
was
very
specific
to
a
homeless,
neighborhood
and
a
neighborhood
have
known
for
drug
addiction
and
disadvantaged
if
there
any,
if
there's
any
interest
in
more
information
on
that,
we
can
certainly
provide
it
to
you.
But
this
was
an
extreme
successful,
mural
and
I
know.
There
has
been
some
sort
of
ad
hoc
conversation
about
doing
that
here
in
Palm
Springs
as
well.
F
C
F
Absolutely
great
question:
this
is
open
to
the
public
and
it's
very
important
that
we
reach
the
widest
diversity
of
people
possible.
So
everyone
welcome
people
can
simply
email
us
I'm,
not
gonna.
Remember
the
email
address.
Give
me
a
second
I
have
to
cheat,
is
jump
for
joy
at
PS,
Cultural,
Center
org,
and
we
will
schedule
a
photo
session
if
people,
for
whatever
reason,
can't
email.
If
you
could
give
me
that
information
and
we
will
be
in
touch,
we
were
more
than
happy
to
do
so.
She's
can
photograph
for
about
another
three
weeks.
C
F
A
A
We
had
a
project
a
year
or
two
ago
that
involved
photography
of
people
and
they
set
up
a
booth
at
the
village
fest
and
found
a
lot
of
people
without
photographing
their.
If
you,
if
you
you,
might
consider
handing
out
your
flyers
and
I'm
not
exactly
sure
the
process,
Jennifer
of
getting
permission
to
do
something
at
the
village
fest,
but
I
mean
it,
wouldn't
be
that
hard
right
they
could.
Can
you
tell
them
who
to
call
just
to
yeah.
A
G
D
I,
don't
think
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
last
month,
but
I
did
want
to
mention.
There
is
another
dimension
to
the
program
and
it
is
the
blog
that's
done
each
person
that
jumps
also
fills
out
a
questionnaire
about
the
experience
and
then
you'll
have
publishes
that
on
the
blog
with
the
picture
of
the
person
who
jumped-
and
it's
it's
a
really
beautiful
thing,
if
you
have
the
opportunity,
I'm
gonna
have
to
cheat
and
look
again
too,
but
to
give
you
the
address.
E
A
So
I
think
it's
it'll
turn
out
to
be
a
good
way
to
do
this.
So
I
would
like
to
propose
that,
because
we've
had
two
presentations
now
from
this
group
and
the
timing
is
a
little
bit
off,
there's
a
copy
of
their
application
with
your
agenda.
The
one
step
that
hasn't
been
done
is
the
notifying
of
property
owners
within
500
feet,
10
days
before
it
is
voted
on
by
the
Commission.
A
But
I
would
like
to
propose
that
we
conditionally
approve
it
today,
based
on
the
mural
itself
and
the
merits
of
it,
and
that
at
the
next
meeting
we
put
on
the
agenda
the
resolution
that
we'll
send
to
the
City
Council.
So
we
don't
need
to
ask
them
to
come
back
again.
So
if
someone
is
comfortable
making
that
motion
that,
based
on
the
mural
itself,
that
we
as
an
Arts
Commission
approve
it
and
then
we'll
do
the
sort
of
last
the
final
stamp
of
approval
next
month.
A
No
I
think
that
if
we,
if
we
have
a
sense
of
your
meeting
or
motion
whatever
you
feel
comfortable
with
that
next
month
on
the
agenda
will
simply
be
the
resolution
that
we
usually
vote,
that
we
send
to
the
City
Council
and
then
it
will
go
to
the
City
Council
after
that.
But
that
way
it'll
have
lots
of
notice
and
if
someone
did
wish
to
come,
while
we
vote
on
the
resolution
itself,
they
there
would
be
time
for
them
to
do
it.
So.
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D
A
D
F
Absolutely
anticipate
that
this
will
turn
the
cultural
center
into
a
destination
beyond
movies.
That
was
one
of
the
objectives
absolutely,
but
we
have
also
seen
just
in
this
project
thus
far
just
with
the
photography
it
I
had
like
I
say
this
very
sincerely.
It
warms
my
heart
to
be
going
to
the
American
documentary
film
festival
and
to
other
events
that
we
have
had
as
a
cultural
center
and
see.
People
who
have
participated
in
the
photo
sessions
now
come
to
the
Cultural
Center.
A
B
A
I
I
would
like
to
propose
to
the
Commission
that
we
hold
the
budget
discussion
until
after
we've
had
the
subcommittee
reports,
because
each
committee
has
been
thinking
about
budget
and
so
I
think
that
we
will
have
a
much
better
discussion
afterwards
and
I
think
we
can
change
the
agenda
by
consent
of
the
of
the
committee.
So
I
would
like
to
propose
that
I
think
that
stopping
the
discussions
that
we've
sort
of
started
to
talk
about
the
budget
will
be
less
effective
than
if
we
wait
till
we've
had
the
reports.
A
Is
there
anyone
who
objects
to
that?
Okay.
So
if
that's
alright-
and
maybe
you
can
tell
him-
you
know
we'll
do
it
later-
we
also
okay,
it's
just
I've
heard
from
several
of
the
subcommittee's
that
their
deliberations
included
some
ideas
about
budget,
so
I
think
talking
first,
but
we
will
get
to
it.
I
promise
and
it
was
on
the
agenda
at
the
end,
to
be
fair.
I
didn't
know
that
it
had
been
changed.
Okay,
what
I
wanted
to
say
is
the
the
three
committee
subcommittee
reports
are
about
programs
for
the
next
year.
A
One
of
them
is
several
subcommittees
have
asked
if
we
couldn't
have
a
study
session
between
now
and
the
next
meeting
to
flesh
out
some
of
these
ideas.
Also
Commissioner,
Pritchard
and
I
attended
the
meeting
about
the
downtown
park
and
the
park
designers
Ria's
Clemente
indicated
that
they
would
love
to
come
and
talk
to
us
about
their
ideas
for
what
should
go
in
the
park.
So
I
have
been
in
touch
with
them
and
a
day
that
they
could
come
to.
A
E
H
A
A
I
I
Meet
all
so
I
am
Jeffrey,
keel,
I'm,
the
director
finance
and
treasurer,
and
you
have
two
sheets
in
front
of
you.
They're,
essentially
the
same
thing.
This
is
this.
One
is
a
little
bit
more
detailed
version.
I
heard
you
some
people
like
to
see
more
detail,
and
this
is
what
typically
gets
presented
to
the
City
Council
when
we
take
your
budget
there.
I
We
also
have
some
of
the
allocated
items.
This
special
charges
line,
which
has
mainly
for
insurances,
that's
that
fifteen.
Sixteen
thousand
is
the
share
of
three
million
dollars
that
gets
charged
the
city
overall
and
it
gets
allocated
to
various
departments
and
funds
and
we're
in
the
process
of
having
our
broker
is
seeking
renewals
for
all
the
insurances
that
will
occur
either
late
in
May
or
in
June,
and
all
of
this
is
subject
to
change.
I
As
far
as
ending
balances,
which
affects
what's
available
for
next
year,
so
I
know
that
your
focus
typically
is
on
what's
available
for
acquisition
of
art,
and
so
what
you're
seeing
here
is
our
best
estimate
uh-huh
just
so
you
know
all
these
numbers
end
up
changing
over
the
months
and
we
end
up
closing
the
books
on
this
fiscal
year
at
the
end
of
September.
So
it's
that
far
off
until
you
even
know
what
that
number
is
and
then
based
upon
what
those
revenues
are,
we
may
adjust
the
revenue
projection
for
the
next
year.
A
A
Exactly-
and
that
brings
me
to
a
request
that
I've
made
a
couple
of
times,
but
that's
really
hindering
us
from
doing
planning,
and
that
is
we
need
to
know
what
developers
have
paid
into
the
fund
and
how
much
because
in
some
cases
they
are
going
to
ask
for
umber
sment,
and
we
need
to
know
what
the
scale
of
that
money
is.
I.
A
Think
that
there's
there's
one
case
that
goes
back
a
number
of
years,
but
from
2015
to
halfway
through
2018.
If
we
could
have
I
mean
I've,
seen
printouts
that
say
somebody
paid
$2,500.
We
need
to
know
who
paid
that
because
they
they
have
the
right
to
come
back
to,
to
propose
a
work
of
art
and
to
ask,
and
before
we
decide
how
much
we
can
spend
on
art
and
particularly
for
the
downtown
park
which
were
very
eager
to
do.
A
I
Me
speak
to
that
question
because
that's
been
an
ongoing
topic
for
two
years
and
we
have
multiple
departments
involved
and
I'll.
Just
tell
you
candidly,
there's
never
been
a
system
in
place
to
track
that,
so
we
literally
do
not
know
by
development.
What
has
been
paid.
There
is
no
master
list
and
we've
been
trying
to
work
on
getting
that
information.
It's
it's
really
getting
into
the
weeds
to
find
it
and
someone
is
gonna
have
to
pour
through
hundreds
of
documents.
A
I
And
and
really
this
is
a
history
that
goes
back
more
than
a
couple
of
years,
it
goes
back
like
for
a
scene
it
when
this
whole
issue
came
up
a
couple
of
years
ago,
where
they
came
forward
and
we're
asking
for
reimbursement,
we're
kind
of
like
well,
how
much
have
they
paid
and
for
a
decade
they've
been
paying
and
no
one
had
the
ability
to
go
back
and
say
this
is
what
it
was:
there's
no
system
for
tracking
it.
So
we're
trying.
A
I
I
I'm
saying
someone
needs
to
go
back
and
find
the
original
documents,
because,
when
it
gets
recorded
in
the
system
as
revenue,
there
isn't
four
I'm
talking
about
oh
well
over
a
decade
right,
there's
no
notation,
that's
being
made
that
can
be
pulled
up
electronically
saying
this
is:
who
paid
that
fee?
There's
just
a
lump
sum
for
the
day's
activity
on
what
came
in
so.
H
I
A
D
Would
just
say
the
end
result
being
that
developer
receives
their
permit
is,
is
their
objective,
so
they've
made
the
payment
city
has
accepted
it.
Thank
developer,
receives
permit
and
I.
Think
at
that
point.
What
happens
with
the
information
is
the
question
it's
on
a
piece
of
paper,
I
think
there's
a
worksheet
form
that
says
how
much
is
paid
in
each
right.
D
D
A
G
A
H
No
and
I'd
also
like
to
frame
this
as
an
opportunity
for
us,
because
if
we
can
talk
to
those
developers
as
they're
making
their
plans,
it's
just
a
it's
a
good
potential
partnership
for
us
to
know
what
people
have
paid
in
and
would
really
benefit
from,
and
if
we
could
work
with
them.
Quite
often,
it
just
seems,
like
you
know,
they're,
just
finding
a
piece
of
metal
from
to
put.
I
A
A
I
A
B
Marathon
and
they
actually
have
an
approved
project
which
is
which
was
pretty
cool
back
when
they
went
through
the
approval
process
as
Avalon,
and
it's
actually
a
piece
by
Philip,
K,
Smith,
so
I'm.
It
will
be
interesting
to
see
which,
if
Marilyn
the
current
developers
won't
will
continue
on
and
perhaps
pursue
that
piece
being.
C
A
D
I
Ones
that
are
in
the
process
and
expecting
to
pay
we're
not
there
and
I,
don't
know
if
we'll
be
there
for
months
really.
So
what
I
did
was
I
prepared
the
revenue
projection
based
upon
flow
of
funds,
trends
on
what
we've
been
seeing
and
you
did
pick
up
how
I
did
make
a
little
tweak
on
what
was
paid
last
year
in
1617,
we
had
an
unusually
large
influx
and
isn't
continuing
so
we're
back
to
actually
something
lower
than
the
revenue
estimate
that
was
set
for
last
year,
even
though
the
1617
numbers
blew
right
through
right.
A
I
I
Best
guest
right
now
and
then
and
then
I'll
direct
your
attention
to
this
number
in
the
third
column,
three
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
that's
basically
a
plug
number
to
have
the
third
columns
estimated
balance
come
to
zero
so
that
that's
the
target
we're
working
with
and
that
that
would
be
the
num
the
best
number
you
have
to
work
with
knowing
there
are
other
obligations,
and
let
me
also
mention
one
other
thing:
this
is
not
just
for
you
know
the
the
artwork
a
question.
This
is
anything
for.
I
Of
the
things
I'll
note
for
you
under
personnel
costs
you've
you
can
see
how
the
budget
was
seventy
seven
for
this
year.
The
projected
is
ninety
four
and
next
year
is
projected
to
seventy
nine.
The
difference
there
is
my
understands.
The
Commission
is
asked
Jennifer
to
go
on
some
days
that
she's
normally
not
here
where
there's
events,
so
she
is
budgeted
as
a
half-time
person
right
now.
So,
however,
that
process
of
hers
I'm
not
familiar
right.
A
All
we
want
to
know
is
how
much
of
the
three
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
is
owed
to
it
potentially
owed
and
within
the
next
year
or
two
two
developers
who
have
legitimately
paid
in
and
either
have
a
piece
that's
approved
or
are
going
to,
because
if
you
don't
tell
us
we're
going
to
spend
it
and
then
when
they
come
for
the
money,
there's
not
going
to
be
any
because
we
don't
know.
So
we
can't
save
the
money
and.
I
E
I
D
Well,
I,
don't
believe
we
have
pain,
made
any
payments
to
them
and
it
may
be
a
case
of
the
city,
taking
one
particular
position
that
that
agreement
is
no
longer
in
force
versus
the
developer,
who
I
believe
was
went
into
bankruptcy.
The
property
had
transferred
to
another
owner,
and
now
the
original
developer
may
be
back
in
the
picture,
claiming
that
they
have
a
right
to
the
funds.
A
A
G
G
A
A
A
I
A
A
I
D
A
I
The
unallocated
other
thing
to
consider
is
that
you
know
artwork
doesn't
get
acquired
overnight,
so
you
know,
even
if
we
were
to
say
you
know,
let's
just
say,
work
with
a
budget
amount
of
250,000
I'm,
just
throwing
that
out
there.
It
may
take
all
fiscal
year
to
deal
with
that.
It
may
slip
over
in
the
next
year.
I
know
these
are
for.
A
A
I
A
I
Ends
up
being
higher
or
lower
so,
like
I
tell
the
measure
Jay
Commission,
because
they're
they're
dealing
with
you
know
13
million
a
year
in
and
it's
all
based
upon,
you
know,
what's
happening
with
sales
tax
and
every
penny
that
comes
in
for
measure.
J
goes
that
measure
J
fund
and
so
I'm
like
watching
that
stuff,
like
a
hawk
and
I,
said
to
them
as
you're,
making
your
recommendations
to
Council
shoot
beyond
where
you
want
to
be
and
recommend
a
list
beyond.
Oh
you
think
you
have
money
for
to
fund.
I
A
A
Except
that
we
really
just
need
whatever
numbers,
you
know,
I
mean
if
you
have
a
list
of
that.
We
need
to
know,
and
we
would
appreciate
it
and
we
will
do
our
best
to
budget
what
I
mean
I
understand
this.
Is
we
don't
know
what
the
balance
will
be?
We
don't
know
what
will
come
in,
but
we
have
to
have
a
range
because
we
do
want
to.
We
are
going
to
spend
it
something
fairly
quickly,
because
it's
it's
timely,
so,
okay,
anything
you
can
tell
us,
will
be
very
helpful.
Okay,
thank.
D
A
Would
like
to
know
what
is
potentially
owed
to
developers?
Yes,
because
they
really
I
mean.
If,
if
you
read
the
ordinance,
that's
what
our
Commission
is
set
up
to
do
is
to
work
with
developers
to
get
art
in
in
public
spaces
of
these
developments.
A
lot
of
the
other
things
that
we
want
to
do
are
actually
not
in
our
ordinance,
and
so
they
would
have
to
come
sort
of
set
if
there's
more,
if
there's
money
left
overs.
So
that's.
A
I
A
I
I
A
H
Use
this
opportunity
to
say
something.
Thank
you
thanks
for
clarifying
this
and
putting
this
together
very
clearly.
I
would
just
like
this
use
this
opportunity
to
say
that
I
think
the
revenue
that
we
are
receiving
is
just
so
terribly
small
for
any
city
worth
it's
worth
anything
especially
one
was
a
cultural
heritage
like
Palm
Springs,
a
quarter
of
1%
is
insulting
and
obscene,
especially
sorry
I'm,
just.
H
H
You
know
a
cup
of
coffee
at
some
of
these
stores
would,
if
every
xx
percent
donated
a
cup
of
coffee
to
the
Public
Art
Commission
we'd
have
a
really
beautiful
park.
We'd
have
really
nice
things
for
kids,
so,
but
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
it
was
a
math
is
just
that.
I
just
wanted
to
say
right
now
our
budget
was
budgeted.
Our
personal
costs
at
30
percent
of
our
expenses
and
the
projected
is
actually
41
percent
of
our
expenses.
H
Now
I
work
in
the
nonprofit
world,
but
that
is
a
very,
very
high
number
and
would
like
to
see
it
more
in
line
with
the
13%.
That
is
the
preliminary
budget,
which
would
mean
that
I'd
like
to
see
our
revenue
increase
quite
a
bit,
because
it's
just
this
math
isn't
isn't
good.
It's
not
a
way
to
run
to
run
this
if
we
want
to
see
results.
H
So
that's
why
we're
always
struggling,
but
a
thank
you
for
being
here,
but
I
also
think
we
need
to
try
to
get
a
little
more
money,
so
we
don't
have
to
be
nitpicking
if
a
developer
wants
to
put
a
beautiful
planter
in
front
of
their
their
their
place.
You
know
and
that's
their
right
to,
but
I
think
we
need
to
find
some
other
ways
to
address
this
issue.
Well,.
A
A
I
I
H
I
H
D
A
For
art
is
the
sort
of
standard
around
the
country
that
the
gold
standard,
but
it's
very
unusual
to
have
it
come
from
private
development.
But
it
does
mean
that
our
first
obligation
is
to
help
these
developers
if
they
want
to
put
art
and
and
try
to
improve
the
quality
of
it.
And
if
you
have
seen
the
sculpture
that
went
in
next
to
the
Rowan.
D
I
A
What's
really
sort
of
encouraging
is
that
the
developer
paid
probably
twice
what
his
reimbursement
was
for
the
sculpture,
because
he
wanted
a
really
high-quality
sculpture,
but
his
knowing
that
he
could
come
to
us
for
the
reimbursement
is
what
made
it
possible.
So
that's
why
we
want
to
know
who's
out
there.
Who
would
you
know
who
is
potentially
going
to
do
this?
And
if,
if
they're
not
you
know,
that's
fine
with
us,
because
we
have
happy
to
spend
their
money,
but
if
they
are
we'd
like
to
work
with
them.
D
H
I
D
C
I
A
I
A
A
A
So
Commissioner
Pritchard,
just
sort
of
but
I
think
in
most
of
these
cases.
This
is
those
reports
are
the
first
time
we're
putting
something
on
the
agenda
about
some
of
these
and
that
we
should
all
be
thinking
in
terms
of
what
sort
of
action
we
might
want
to
take
in
May
or
June
to
make
something
happen
and
the
poor
approves
the
whole
schedule.
So
today
is
really
just
to
hear
the
what
the
subcommittee's
have
been
doing:
I'm
not
trying
to
make
any
decisions.
Okay,
your
honor.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
so
commissioners,
Yanni
and
Gladstone
and
I
met
to
discuss
more
specifically
an
outline
for
a
plan
for
the
Virgin
Hotel
site
site
F,
which
is
listed
on
the
report.
We
basically
have
what's
going
to
happen
on
that
site
in
place
with
the
babies
that
michael
brown
is
orchestrating,
and
the
piece
by
michael
byrne
Berg,
which
is
now
at
contract,
so
Michael
is
waiting
for
the
check
for
the
deposit
of
that
to
commence
the
work.
I
will
get
an
engineering
report
to
the
you.
C
B
C
Then
the
final
pieces
of
site
F,
which
is
the
grid
art
pit,
would
be
discussing
preliminary
information
for
doing
signage
for
it
plaques,
so
one
that
would
identify
the
site
as
an
art,
location
and
then
individual
plaques
for
Michael
Byrne,
Berg's
piece
and
for
the
babies
and
then
to
discuss.
If
we
want
to
do
as
we've
mentioned
a
couple
of
times
in
our
meetings.
C
If
we
want
to
move
forward
with
a
mural
component
in
the
art
pit,
which
my
estimation
would
sort
of
complete
the
vision
for
that
site,
so
we
could
move
on
to
the
Virgin
Hotel
site,
which
is
what
we
started
to
discuss
primarily
in
the
ad
hoc
committee
about
a
week
ago.
So
if
two
parts
of
that,
because
we
discussed
in
general
terms
what
commissioner
Gladstone
Commissioner
Yanni
and
I
had
as
a
vision
for
the
Virgin
Hotel
site
operating
with,
we
as
the
Commission
sort
of
running
the
whole
show
on
that
site.
C
If
we
could
determine
working
with
the
city,
what
is
a
clear,
step-by-step,
easy
process
for
us
to
do
that
in
selecting
an
our
approving
the
installation
approving
it
as
a
rental
as
opposed
to
a
purchase
and
determining
once
we
do
the
selection
and
the
approval.
If
we
are
the
only
pretty
much
the
only
entity
involved
with
it,
goes
straight
to
contract
with
city
attorney
and
city
manager,
as
the
Michael
bernburg
piece
did,
with
the
only
other
step
being
a
pool
with
the
Department
of
Planning
and
Co.
C
Yes,
I'm
thinking
just
more
in
terms
of
I,
there
are
pieces
that
we
might
do
it
of
lower
level.
He
and
certainly
understanding
that
if
we
wanted
to
do
on
on
the
Virgin
Hotel
site
a
couple
of
low
budget
installations
that
we
could
just
quickly
approve
but
spend
over
$25,000
for
one
particular
piece,
then
it
would
certainly
go
to
the
City
Council
process.
So
in
between
the
time
that
we
imagine
discussed
this
and
operating
as
sort
of
our
own
entity
orchestrating
and
supervising
and
running
the
whole
show.
C
A
That's
what
they
do
is
it's
public
art
projects,
but
it
it
does,
have
the
beneficial
affective.
For
example,
if
you
had
more
than
one
artist
working
on
the
site,
they
could
manage
the
process
and
by
are
paying
them
a
consulting
fee
and
whatever
the
costs
of
the
project
were,
they
could
then
pay
the
artists,
which
would
mean
fewer
contracts
that
have
to
go
to
the
city.
So.
C
Basically,
the
two
basic
outlines
when,
because
I
had
the
opportunity
to
Warren
brand
was
in
town
for
like
an
hour
a
couple
of
days
ago,
so
I
had
the
opportunity
to
sit
with
them,
have
coffee.
So
that's
the
packet
of
information,
that's
in
front
of
you
now
spurned
out
of
that
meeting.
So
and
unfortunately
it
was
just
me
sitting
down
with
him
in
general
terms.
C
C
We
would
still
be
the
approval
entity
for
any
art
that
goes
into
the
site,
so
just
to
throw
it
a
couple
of
random
numbers
when
commissioner
Gladstone
and
Yanni
and
I
met,
we
talked
roughly
about
doing
perhaps
two
art
installations
with
artists
that
have
existing
pieces.
That
would
be
readily
available.
So
it's
a
lower
cost.
So
figuratively
those
would
run
from
five
to
seven
and
a
half
thousand
doing
two
installations,
so
15,000
for
existing
art.
C
That
already
is
around,
and
perhaps
one
site-specific
in
a
10
to
$15,000
range
15,000
and
set
aside,
perhaps
another
five
for
other
art
treatments
to
the
existing.
Concrete
structures
are
already
on
site
and
support
structures
that
are
for
the
future
Hotel
that
will
be
on
the
site.
Well
there
so
adding
pipes
that
comes
up
to
35,000
as
a
possible
budget
item.
If
we
were
sort
of
orchestrating
the
whole
thing,
I
think
would
behoove
us
was
or
Brad
and
I
did
not
discuss
any
money
amounts.
C
A
A
C
Just
a
question
on
that,
if
we
worked
with
Warren
brand,
just
as
an
example,
because
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
information
from
if
we
do
a
contract
specifically
with
him,
excuse
me
if
it
was
forty
five
thousand.
What
is
the
process
for
writing
the
contract,
and
what
do
we
stipulate
wine
items
on
this
is
to
be
spent
on
three
installations
by
all.
H
C
B
H
Is
actually
doing
something
that
we
need,
for
example,
we
had
also
chatted
about
this
idea
right
now,
there's
a
like
a
mural
like
a
pink
wall
around
the
fence.
Yes,
downtown
is
an
artifact
on
Springs
life,
Palm
Springs
aren't
museum,
Warhol
promotion
and
I
was
real.
We
were
talking
about
this
idea
of
maybe
thinking
about
that
as
a
possible
mural
wall
which
would
allow
us
to
work
with
artists
to
just
simply
print
on
there
and
do
a
kind
of
mural
c-series
see
I
expressed
concern
that
our
best
plans
may
still
be
thwarted
by
our
developers.
H
Plans
at
any
point
they
can
say
we're,
building
a
building,
and
then
we
you
know,
may
not
be
able
to
to
continue
on
with
plans
that
I.
You
know.
The
likelihood
of
this
is,
is
you
know,
kind
of
see
things
coming,
but
but
still
I
thought
it
might
be
nice
for
in-between
times
or
when
we're
between
projects,
to
think
about
what
a
flexible
low-impact
way
to
to
treat
this
area
before
we
start
getting
bad
vert
Iseman
for
things
that
we
don't
really
like.
So
you.
H
Took
to
put
it
on
the
fence
and
do
it
like
a
series
in
my
mind,
that
would
be
relatively
low
cost
and
low
impact,
although
there
would
be
project
management
to
oversee
that
installation
and
and
so
in,
and
that's
where
you
know
we
have
to
figure
out
whether
miss
Henning
is
available
or
whether
we
should
use
Oklahoma.
We.
A
Might
put
that
into
the
context
of
the
30th
anniversary
celebration?
I
wasn't
able
to
go
to
the
warhol
in
the
park,
but
apparently
they
caused
Museum
way,
which
is
the
one
that
points
towards
the
museum
and
lined
it
with
tables
with
things
for
artwork
for
kids
to
do
and
also
wrap
the
whole
place
in
pink.
It
was
sort
of
like
Crystal
Light,
but
I
think
you
know
that's
something
we
could
do
in
the
fall.
Not
the
same.
A
You
know
using
the
theme
of
public
art,
but
that
use
of
the
space
seem
to
be
very
workable
and
you
know,
and
and
doesn't
require
closing
museum
drives,
which
apparently
it
would
be
much
more
difficult
because,
there's
still
you
know,
there's
the
entrance
to
the
parking
and
a
number
of
other
factors
that
the
city
might
not
be
ready
to
try.
But
now
two
or
three
people
have
closed
museum
way
back.
C
To
the
point
that
mr.
Gladstone
brought
up
I
think
I
would
we
would
like
to
see
a
mural
program
running
concurrently,
with
whatever
we're
doing
on
the
Virgin
Hotel
site,
to
be
an
axillary
to
that
to
the
site
F,
which
is
a
great
art
pit
and
any
other
place.
We
could
find
its
a
suitable
place
for
a
mural
art,
whether
it's
on
a
wall
or
on
sheeting.
H
H
C
But
I
think
as
it
for
the
kinder
size.
They
would
like
just
to
start
thinking
about
sort
of
those
two
numbers,
perhaps
as
a
starting
point,
20,000
to
kick
off
or
to
identify
as
a
mural
program
and
somewhere
in
the
35
to
45
thousand
for
temporary
art
installations,
finishing
up
site,
F
and
then
also
the
Virgin
Hotel
site.
And
then
we
can
start
the
bigger
discussion
of
what
we'll
have
in
the
downtown
park.
Well,.
A
A
D
Richard
just
to
answer
question
in
regards
to
process
that
you
were
asking
earlier
contracts
over
25,000
would
have
to
be
approved
by
the
City
Council,
but
you
know
there's
a
process
to
that,
of
course,
getting
it
drafted
and
the
selection
process
and
bringing
that
to
the
council.
There's
time
involved
there.
But
it
sounds
like
you
have
a
lot
of
ideas
but
I'm
sure
I
have
to
excuse
myself.
D
A
C
Yes,
that's
actually
something
we
considered
in
a
discussion
with
foreign
brand,
which
you'll
see
in
some
portion
of
the
pamphlet
today
that,
because
we're
not
purchasing
any
of
the
artwork,
it's
merely
on
loan,
it
remains
the
possession
of
the
artist.
Would
they
would
actively
look
for
alternative
sites
that
it
could
go
to
and/or,
be
sold
various.
A
Things
like
there
is
I
mean
because
we
were
unclear
about
renting
or
art
when
the
contract
was
written
for
Michael
bernburg
it
actually
has
is
being
purchased,
and
since
it's
on
part
of
the
great
development
site,
which
at
some
point
will
be
developed,
it
could
also
look
for
another
home.
At
that
point,
we
could
look
for
another
home,
so
it's
just
kinda.
This
is
that
one
is
getting
our
feet
wet
and
we'll
see,
but
great
development
has
been
besides
doing.
A
The
Isabella
sculpture
has
really
been
very
generous
with
their
spaces,
and
you
know
the
Virgin
Hotel
I
believe
they're
required
to
start
construction
by
January
2020.
So
it's
unlikely
that
we'll
have
the
use
of
it
till
then,
and
who
knows
maybe
longer
and
perhaps
more
money,
I'm
sure,
they're
still
paying
and.
F
A
G
So
we
had
our
first
meeting
and
hopefully
we
can
have
our
second
meeting
enacted
early
next
week,
so
this
email
kind
of
puts
together
things
that
we
talked
about
and
then
flushing
things
out
more
in
some
additional
ideas.
So
I've
just
been
I've
been
running
into
people
at
different
things.
I've
been
going
to
and
meeting
people
see
their
interest
in
working
with
us
and
doing
collaborative
things
for
next
year
and
of
course
everybody
is
very,
very
excited,
so
that
is
really
cool.
Everybody
had
talked
to.
G
A
That's
possible
originally
with
Commissioner
yani.
We
floated
the
idea
of
closing
Museum
Drive
what
you
nobody
has
done
yet,
but
it's
just
I
think
is
too
too
many
problems
with
it,
but
now
we've
seen
that
me
see
him
way.
The
only
thing
I
like
caution
about
is
it's
like
cobblestones
or
whatever.
You've
got
it's
not
a
really
easy
surface
to
paint
or
I.
H
At
Jennifer
and
she
can
distribute
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
confirm
with
you
that
it
is
on
the
museum's
calendar.
This
day
gets
on
the
museum's
calendar.
So
if
you,
if
and
when
you
meet
with
Melissa
at
the
Museum,
it
would
be
good
to
really
sketch
out
even
a
rough
time
frame
of
when
you
think
you
might
be
using
museum
facilities
and
I
see
that's
kind
of
already
here
and
so.
I
would
just
encourage
that
thinking
now,
so
that
we
can
just
put
things
on
the
calendar
and
really
confirm
them
and.
A
H
A
G
So
we
talked
a
little
bit
at
our
meeting
at
both
meetings.
Actually
so
I
kind
of
incorporated
everything
and
I've
reached
out
to
a
bunch
of
these
people
already,
but
these
were
kind
of
ideas
of
close
the
street
for
the
whole
day
and
have
a
community
art
festival
to
have
it
be
kid-friendly
to
have
a
lot
of
our
community
partners
all
over
the
valley
come
participate
so
something
like
Cabot's,
Museum
or
California
desert,
Arts,
Council,
all
different
types
of
communities.
So
we
get
a
wide
variety
of
people
participating
and
then
I
thought.
G
Highlight
our
our
public
art
collection,
which
I'm
calling
the
oldies
but
goodies
but
really
concentrate
on
what
public
art
is,
what
public
art
means
to
people
and
what
people
want
their
public
art
to
be
so
that
was
kind
of
my
idea
of
having
this
and
it
kind
of
isla.
It's
part
of
like
that.
Mural
idea,
also,
it
could
be
along
a
whole
wall,
is
have
this
giant
map
of
downtown
or
of
the
city
and
have
P.
G
You
know,
cut
out
pieces
of
our
art
and
have
it
be
like
a
public
interests,
feedback
loop,
so
you
know
they.
People
can
figure
out
where
they,
where
our
public
art
should
be
like.
If
we
want
to
move.
If
we
keep
talking
about
moving
the
squiggles
and
everything
like
that,
if
we
want
to
move
things,
maybe
we
ask
the
public
all
year
like
where
would
you
like
some
things
to
be
in
bookend
the
30th
anniversary
by
the
actually
moving
it
and
even.
A
G
That's
cool
okay,
so
that
probably
already
worked
so
and
then
I
thought.
The
whole
thing
could
be
around
art
like
we
could
have
food
trucks,
but
it
could
be
like
you
make
your
street
taco,
be
like
some
kind
of
Picasso
painting
or
something
just
a
cute
theme
throughout
the
whole
day,
and
then
I
did
reach
out
to
windmill
City
t-shirts.
They
were
really
into
the
ideas,
so
they
want
to
meet
and
I
had
talked
to
Sarah
Schneiderman
a
while
ago
and
then
I
reached
out
to
her
again.
G
So
those
all
those
groups
are
really
on
board.
With
wanting
to
do
something
with
us.
So
then
we
talked
about
having
the
celebration,
be
the
entire
season
I
said
season,
but
then
it
might
not
be
long
enough,
but
we
can
always
reduce
everything.
So
I
tried
to
just
throw
a
ton
of
things
at
the
wall
and
since
we
do
a
lot
of
things
for
Black,
History
Month
and
that's
kind
of
a
tradition
in
town
I
thought
well,
why
don't
we
expand
upon
that?
G
To
maybe
other
groups
that
were
not
celebrating
as
much
so
so
then
I
kind
of
went
through
like
the
United
States.
What
are
we
celebrating
every
month,
so
this
is
kind
of
the
list
of
each
month
and
what
there
are
celebrations
for
so
I
thought.
If
we
tried
to
hit
as
many
of
these
or
a
good
group
of
them
it
would,
it
would
encompass
our
entire
community,
so
we
could
get.
A
G
A
G
G
He
is
a
wonderful
guy,
he's
an
amazing
artist
so
that
we
could
piggyback
off.
You
know
the
museum
is
already
doing
one
event
with
him
and
maybe
we
could
piggyback
off
something
like
that
with
him.
So
he's.
If
he's
already
here,
I
know
he
does
live
here
locally
the
year,
then
maybe
he
could
do
something
else.
G
Then
I
thought
you
know
we
keep
talking
about
the
Palm
Springs
Art
Show
and
the
kids
shows
so
I
thought.
Maybe
we
could
piggyback
these
three
months
worthy
they're,
all
these
special
events
and
it
kind
of
combines
all
of
them
into
not
one.
But
you
know
the
kids
have
their
show
and
then
the
winners
from
that
show
go
into
the
adult
show.
So
they
kind
of
follow
one
another
and.
G
G
A
So
is
your
committee
planning
committees
planning
to
meet
again
before
the
next
meeting
and
I
think
at
this
point?
If
you
could
sort
of
use
the
format
that
Jennifer's
used
before
that's
sort
of
chronological
and
maybe
color-coded
you
know
for
who
who
it's
with
but
I,
think
we'd
set
our
goal
by
hat
for
having
what,
by
June
the
schedule
for
next
year.
So
I
think
we're
on
track
to
do
that,
and
we
should
just
keep.
You
know,
keep
refining
it.
I
don't
want
to
keep
us
here
too
late.
So
I
think
that
we
should.
A
Hear
a
report
from
Commissioner
Brenner
on
how
our
consultant
is
doing
with
publicity
and
outreach,
and
she
I
don't
know
if
we
can
just
show
it
quickly,
but
she
sent
19
page
report.
You
know
with
like
how
many
people
saw
this
and
that
and
the
other
thing-
and
it
just
seems
like
a
waste
of
paper
to
print
it,
but.
A
E
So,
a
couple
of
months
ago,
we
agreed
to
bring
on
Maddalena
Garza
and
her
team
I
want
to
go
back
and
just
touch
base
on
some
of
the
things
that
we
asked
her
to
help
us
with
were
setting
up,
baselines
and
kind
of
you
know
when
we
agreed
to
do
this,
having
a
way
for
it
to
be
measurable
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we
all
agreed
on
that
we
really
liked
about
social
media
is,
we
can
check
our
ROI.
E
We
really
can
go
in
and
look
at
these
numbers
and
know
how
we're
doing
well,
let
me
say
Maddalena
probably
could,
and
unfortunately
she
couldn't
be
here.
She
had
a
death
in
the
family
and
had
to
go
to
Mexico
City.
However,
she
still
found
the
time
to
prepare
this
very
detailed
report.
One
of
the
things,
though
I
know
that
we
I
feel
we
have
to
look
at
this
really,
though,
is
just
a
baseline.
This
is
where
we're
starting
from
so
when
I
look
at
numbers
like,
for
instance,
for
our
Instagram
account.
E
We
started
at
zero,
so
we
have
a
hundred
and
fifty
two
followers
now,
which
I
think
is
great.
What
we
really
need
to
see
in
a
few
months
is
have
we
grown
that
and
they
think
that's
going
to
be
a
way
for
us
to
to
really
gauge
even
better
so
this
report,
like
I,
said
it's
so
detailed,
has
so
much
in
it.
I,
don't
know
what
the.
E
Legalities
are
of
sharing
it
with
all
the
Commission
and
making
it
a
public
document,
I
mean
I.
Would
there
were
so
many
pages
to
print
it?
We
kind
of
didn't
want
that
to
happen,
but
anybody
that
wants
to
know
in
great
detail
I
will
touch
on
some
of
the
highlights
that
when
I
looked
at
it,
so
her
Facebook
report
specifically
into
details
of
what
days
did
we
have
more
viewing
I
mean
it?
E
E
Likes
per
posting,
we
got
76
comments.
The
average
comment
was
one
point:
eight
one
I,
don't
know
what
that
is
words
minutes
and
average
engagement
was
a
hundred
and
ten
percent.
So
I
can
read
those
to
you,
I
can't
answer.
The
question
is
what
does
that
mean?
But
it
sounds
really
good
to
me,
but
I
do
like
I
said:
I
always
qualify
it,
but
but
we're
starting
at
zero,
but
I
do
think
this
is
that
great
way
for
us
to
really
see?
E
Where
are
we
going
and
our
possibility
of
how
to
get
there
I
do
I
can
tell
you
that
in
our
Facebook
last
week
we
had
two
point:
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
forty
our
reach
was
two
thousand
two
hundred
forty
the
week
before
that
it
was
one
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty.
So
we
had
a
hundred
and
fifty.
E
E
That
just
kind
of
goes
through
that
arts
and,
like
I,
said
I
know
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
I
shared
and
I
got
out
there,
and
you
know
those
all
the
things
that
we
can
certainly
I'll
do
a
whole
lot
more
up.
Like
things
types
of
reach,
the
organic
reach
versus
the
viral
three
versus
the
daily
paid
reach.
Those
are
important
things
to
know.
Obviously,
I
think
the
other
thing
that
I
really
want
to
spend
time
with
her
to
be
able
to
come
back
to
all
of
you
is
really
solidifying.
E
A
H
H
A
She's
also
on
a
mission
to
like
over
the
summer
when
there's
less
going
on
to
photograph
all
of
our
art,
but
she
you
know
it's
fun.
She
often
has
people
in
the
picture
or
you
know,
sitting
on
it
or
whatever
is
appropriate,
but
by
the
end
of
the
summer
we
should
have
a
really
good
picture
of
all
the
pieces.
So
and
you
know
sort
of
current
and
with
people
interacting
with
them,
so
I
think
that's
fun.
A
A
D
E
A
Bring
that
and
and
I
don't
know
that
we
have
to
do
at
this
point
the
whole
next
fiscal
year,
but
we
certainly
I
think
want
to
lead
up
to
October
and
then
that
would
be
another
time
to
reassess
it.
If
it's,
if
it's
worth
it,
it's
also
sort
of
good
to
have
someone
somewhat
from
the
outside,
because
she
sees
things
you
know
like
what's
interesting
and
she's
been
interviewing
people
and
I
mean
some
of
the
things
she's.
Just
so
like
like
impressed
with
I.
D
A
She
just
wasn't
sure
what
you
know.
We
told
her
to
go
to
some
of
these
things,
but
I
don't
think
she
really
knew
what
they
were
head
of
time
and
it
would
be
great
to
see
the
pictures
of
Warhol
in
the
park.
Cuz
I
think
that's
gonna,
set
kind
of
the
standard,
for
you
can
deal
with
what
three
or
four
hundred
people
mm-hmm.
H
B
E
A
A
B
A
A
D
A
Village
last
night,
so
it
may
not
be
yeah.
I
know
it's
just
gonna,
say
I'm,
not
sure
that
it
makes
sense
to
have
other
food
trucks,
maybe
water
or
something
you
know,
but
most
people
will
be
coming
from
a
street
full
of
food
trucks
and
I'm
not
sure
they
would
want
to
see
them.
You
know,
as
it
is
food,
it's
very
hard
for
food
trucks
to
set
up
shop
in
Palm,
Springs.
Well,.
H
A
H
Just
that
I
look
forward
to
hearing
about
from
mr.
Virata
and
our
other
guests
about
you
know,
seeing
if
there
are
ways
for
us
to
augment
our
budget
here.
There.
H
A
A
A
Yeah
I
do
think
that
now
it's
something
like
a
Cena,
you
know
it's
been
being
built
out
for
years
and
they've
think
they're
like
360
houses
and
they
have
room
for
another
300
or
something
that's
kind
of
a
rolling
project.
But
I
think
that
projects
that
get
finished
like
a
hotel
and
it
opens
it
might
be
nice
to
ask
the
City
Council
to
say
that
somebody
has
to
declare
their
interest.
A
You
know
within
a
year
of
completion,
because
otherwise
I
think
we
just
assumed
that
they
don't
want
to
do
it
and
we
spend
the
money
and
but
I
or
maybe
we
could
say
that
we
hoped
people
would
certainly
would
let
us
know
if
it's
their
intention
before
they
finish
again:
Michael
Braun
mm-hmm,
you
know
just
be
I
mean
certainly
before
he
the
hotel
was
open.
He
was
already
talking
to
us
about
the
sculpture,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
can,
you
know,
might
be
worth
trying
to
put
it
in
into
the
regulations.
C
C
So
this
past
week,
I
was
able
to
meet
with
artist
Ryan,
Campbell
and
Abele
out
who's,
the
general
manager
of
the
Rowan
hotel
and
we
pitched
an
idea
for
a
mural
on
the
east
facing
wall
of
the
Rowan,
which
is
directly
beside
their
vertical,
where
their
name
of
the
hotel
is
Abe.
Who
is
the
general
manager,
was
extremely
delighted
with
the
presentation
so
he's
running
it
through
the
design
team
with
the
Kempton
group.
C
A
And
I've
been
talking
to
Leonardo
Bravo
who's,
the
education
director
at
the
Museum
who's
having
summer
camps
this
summer
and
one
of
the
artists
he's
working
with
this
severe
Enriquez.
Who
did
the
desert
maiden
portraits
and
she
she's
interested
in
doing
a
mural.
Perhaps
on
the
wall
that
that
borders?
A
What
will
be
the
public
the
art
park,
whatever
they
turn
out,
calling
it
where
Luminara
house
is
right
now,
there's
a
but
but
the
request
would
come
from
the
museum,
while
she's
working
with
the
kids
to
also
do
a
mural,
and
that
would
be
like
an
early
July.
But
she
told
me
that
I
mean
first,
don't
turns
out
she's,
26
years
old
and
she's
just
done
all
this
stuff,
but
she
decided
that
she
wanted
to
do
something
new
and
challenging.
A
So
she
went
to
Paris
and
she
somehow
hooked
up
with
a
group
of
people
who
do
sort
of
graffiti
slash
art
in
the
middle
of
the
night
on
buildings
in
Paris,
and
so
she
participated
in
four
murals.
You
know
the
police
would
come
and
they
would.
It
would
turn
out
that
they
were
more
interested
in
making
sure
that
the
artists
weren't
harassed
by
like
homeless
people
or
drunks
or
whatever
on
the
streets
and
that
they
respected
each
other's
work.
A
You
know
so
like
don't
paint
over,
and
this
is
you
know,
trying
to
find
out
if
these
were
public
buildings
in
Paris
or
private
buildings
or
but
they're
in
areas
of
the
city
where
people
are
happy
to
have
something
on
the
walls.
But
she
just
did
this
on
her
own
and
painted
four
murals
and
came
back
so
I
think
it
would
be
fun
to
have
her
do
something,
especially
if
it
involved
kids,
because
I
think
she
has
a
great
spirit.
Yes,.
A
The
park
designers,
we
don't
have
to
do
it
at
the
same
time.
We
can
do
it
on
two
separate
dates.
So
I
think
that's
asking
a
lot
of
people
Mara.
If
we
did
the
park
part
for
just
part
of
it,
do
you
think
you
could?
You
know
I
think
it
would
be
good
if
you
were
there
when
we
were
talking
about
how
did
what
to
put
in
the
park
I'd.
H
H
A
Can
I
can
go
back
with
them
with
money
was
a
series
of
Mondays
and
if
we
can
I
think
I'd
be
great
to
meet
again
at
the
desert.
Art
Center
cuz,
it's
a
much
more!
It's
much
more
conducive.
Let's
see
next
Monday!
Yes,
that's!
Let's
say
that
that's
a
little
a
little
soon.
Yes,
so
there's
Monday
the
23rd
mm-hmm,
which
would
still
give
us
lots
of
time
before
the
and
Monday
the
30th
shall
I
propose
those
two
dates
as
her
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon.
Okay
and
then
there
would
be.
A
A
A
But
let's
see
if
they're
available,
because
we
it's
it
really
is
just
a
study
session
and
perhaps
J
or
someone
can
you
know
we
we
just.
We
need
to
talk
to
them,
nothing's
going
to
get
decided.
Okay,
let's,
let's
adjourn
since
we're
losing
our
just
about
losing
our
car
and
then
we
can
just
discuss
dates.
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn.
Please
no
I!
Let
me
have
a
motion
to
adjourn.