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From YouTube: Library Board | Mar 3, 2022
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City of Palm Springs Library Board meeting, held March 3rd, 2022
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Okay,
so
it's
5
31
p.m.
Ed
mcbride,
here
craig
borba,
here
juanita,
garner.
E
I
will
call
the
meeting
to
order
how
about
the
acceptance
of
the
agenda
in
this
case.
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One
moment
and
roll
call
for
that:
one
ed
mcbride.
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D
No,
we
don't
want
anyone
in
attendance
right
and
for
all
of
you,
trustees.
If
you
want
to
see
who
is
watching
the
webinar
format,
click
on
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participants
icon
and
then
you
can
see
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your
panelist
and
then
everyone
watching
live
is
considered
an
attendee.
So
you
can
see
who's
in
the
room.
Okay,
we
have.
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Yes,
I
will
be
updating
you
on
the
friends
recent
activities.
They
were
very
involved
with
modernism
this
last
few
weeks,
so
I
can
report
that
their
house
tour
was
sold
out.
They
had
400
tickets
and
that
went
really
well.
That
was
at
a
house
in
cody
house
and
indian
wells.
Their
lecture
was
with
alan
hess
and
they
had
reduced
the
amount
of
tickets
to
allow
for
some
distancing
for
people
to
sit
and
feel
comfortable
in
the
room.
A
So
they
had
decreased
the
number
of
tickets
to
50
and
they
did
sell
out
those
50
tickets
and
then
the
dish
exhibit.
I
don't
have
the
final
numbers
on
those
yet,
but
I
do
know
as
of
the
valentine's
day,
they
had
pre-sold
348
tickets
and
I
do
know
that
we
sold
81
tickets
at
the
door.
I
just
don't
know
what
tickets
were
sold
online
between
the
14th
and
the
end
of
modernism,
and
we
did
have
daily
ticket
sales
for
that,
so
they
did
really
well
for
their
modernism
events.
A
They
did
also
add
a
couple
of
events
that
at
the
library
one
was
in
relation
to
the
book
about
william
cody,
the
architect.
That
was
written
by
his
daughter
and
two
other
authors,
so
the
friends
were
able
to
purchase
books
directly
from
the
publisher
and
it
ended
up
being
that
they
actually
purchased
the
last
books
in
publication
so
that
they
are
determining
whether
to
reprint
that
now.
A
But
the
friends
have
the
last
of
the
books
that
were
available
and
they
were
able
to
resell
them
at
a
higher
retail
price
to
make
some
profit
on
that.
So
as
a
fundraiser,
so
we
did
host
a
one
just
just
a
one
hour
book
signing
here
at
the
library
we
didn't
have
that
many
book
sales
we
probably
sold
about
seven
or
eight
books,
but
a
lot
of
people
brought
their
own
books
and
we.
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A
Consistent
flow
and
again
it
was
only
an
hour
and
then
the
other
event
they
did
was.
They
went
with
kathy
cody,
the
daughter
and
one
of
the
authors
to
a
private
event
at
the
seventh
lakes
country
club,
which
her
father
designed
their
country
club
clubhouse,
and
we
attended
that
with
them
and
then
sold
books
there
and
we
sold
boxes
of
books
there.
It
was
a
fabulous
event
and
they
actually
got
some
new
members
as
well.
They
probably
signed
up
about
four
or
five
members:
new
members
for
the
friends.
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A
To
attend
and
for
people
to
hear
about
the
library,
and
so
that
was
kind
of
what
has
been
happening
with
the
friends
now
they
did
have
a
few
leftover
books
that
they're
trying
to
decide
what
to
do
about.
They
did
have
some
autographed
by
the
authors,
and
so
they
might
sell
those
as
a
fundraiser.
A
The
only
other
thing
that
they
have
coming
up
is
that
they
will
be
attending
the
upcoming
neighborhood
picnic
later
this
month.
So
that's
what
I
have
to
report
about
the
friends.
Any
questions
that
I
can
try
to
answer.
E
Was
easy
so
david,
unfortunately,
couldn't
join
us.
He
just
said
that
he
wanted
me
to
report
that
they
are
in
the
process
of
completing
their
planning
session
to
update
their
strategic
plan
with
library
strategies.
E
I've
attended
both
of
those
meetings
and
library
strategies
has
updated
their
plan
and,
I
think,
is
sending
it
back
to
the
foundation
board
for
review
and
approval,
and
I
can
just
say
that
in
that
plan
you
know
they're
getting
organized
around
raising
money
for
all
of
the
capital
campaign
projects
that
they
anticipate
that
we're
going
to
have.
So
you
know
they're
getting
into
full
swing
mode
to
raise
money,
so
I
think
that
they
have
some
some
things
that
are
in
that
report.
E
Based
on
my
participation,
I
think
it's
fair
and
saying
that
we'll
come
back
to
the
board
of
trustees
regarding
their
their
loan
with
us
and
their
payback.
If
they
accept
that
strategy,
so
we
probably
will
hear
something
from
them
pretty
soon
other
than
that.
That's
all.
I
think
there
is
a
report
genie
unless
you
can
think
of
something.
D
yeah
people
are
very
happy,
and
this
week
the
city
eliminated
the
requirement
for
masks
in
public
spaces
if
you
are
vaccinated.
So
if
you
are
unvaccinated,
you
are
still
required
to
wear
a
mask
in
city
facilities.
D
We
have
been
like,
I
said,
we've
been
very
busy
very,
very
active
here:
lots
lots
out
of
state
and
out
of
country
license
plates.
It's
always.
This
is
always
snowbird
season
at
the
library
too,
and,
like
julie,
said
the
modernism
week,
events
have
been
happening.
We
have
an
exhibit
here
in
the
main
library
for
historic,
postcards
julie.
How
long
is
that
going
to
be
up?
Do
you
know
a
couple
more
weeks?
Maybe.
A
D
Okay,
yeah
so
come
into
the
library
when
we're
open,
it's
peter
maroudsie's
collection
right.
That
was,
I
think,
the
presentation.
D
And
take
a
look
one
of
the
things
that
we
that
I'm
working
on
and
is
going
to
counsel
is
the
request
for
approval
to
apply
for
the
infrastructure
grant,
so
that
will
be
on
the
march
10th
city
council
agenda.
I've
already
submitted
the
staff
report
for
that,
and
then
I
have
a
couple
of
weeks
to
work
on
that
grant
application.
D
So
I'm
going
to
submit
a
grant
application
for
the
infrastructure,
grant
and
yeah
very
excited.
I
hope
I
hope
it's
successful,
because
we
certainly
need
the
work
done.
It
is
budget
prep
time,
so
I'm
working
on
first
round
of
budget
prep
with
the
assistant
city
manager
and
doing
all
of
that
I
am
still
wearing
two
hats,
so
I'm
still
the
interim
parks
and
recreation
director,
and
that
is
a
lot
of
work,
for
you
know
two
very
active
full
departments,
so
I'm
doing
budget
prep
for
them
about
to
prep
for
the
library.
D
But
I
wanted
to
promote
a
couple
of
things
again.
You
know.
Last
month
we
had
the
first
concert
in
the
park
and
that
was
very
well
attended
and
this
month's
concert
tonight
starts
at
seven.
Is
the
madonna
tribute.
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California's
arbor
day
is
designated
as
saturday
march
12th
and
throughout
the
state
and
28
cities
we
are
going
to
plant
2
000
trees,
so
the
city
of
palm
springs
is
going
to
plant
about
80
trees
and
we
need
people
to
come
help
us
plant
trees.
So
if
you
would
like
to
come
out
and
help
or
serve
water
or
or
just
do
help
us
stay
treated,
we
need
people.
It
starts
at
8
a.m.
On
march
12th
it
runs
until
about
noon
and
bring
your
own
shovel.
D
If
you
have
it
and
gloves,
if
you
have
them,
it's
going
to
start
at
desert
highland
park
up
at
the
james
o,
jesse
desert
highland
unity
center,
we're
gonna
have
our
kickoff
event.
There
we'll
plant
some
trees
at
that
location
and
then
split
up
into
teams,
and
some
people
will
go
to
victoria
park
and
some
will
go
to
root
party
park,
and
so
we
have
a
bunch
of
really
nice
trees
from
the
the
south
coast
arborists
and
it's
a
grant
that
we
got
through
them.
D
So
come
plant
a
tree
and
then
the
nice
thing
is
that
tree
grows
and
you
can
say:
oh
there's
my
tree.
I
planted
that
tree.
Isn't
that
neat
and
then
on
saturday
march
19th
is
the
1ps
picnic,
so
the
neighborhood
picnic
it's
free
to
residents.
D
Anybody
can
come
obviously,
but
you
get
a.
I
think
you
get
free
lunch
if
you're
a
resident,
it's
from
11
to
2.,
the
friends
of
the
library
and
the
library
foundation,
have
both
signed
up
to
have
a
booth.
At
this
event,
I
highly
encourage
you
to
come.
It's
a
great
event.
D
There
are
all
kinds
of
neighborhoods
there
and
different
organizations.
It's
at
rutardi
park
julius
had
mentioned
something
about
a
hot
air
balloon
at
10,
but
I
didn't
know
about
that.
A
Right,
yes,
so
there
will
be
hot
air
balloon
rides
if
the
weather
allows
and
that
they're
actually
going
to
start
them
at
10.
D
Wow,
okay,
so
mark
your
calendar
for
march
19.
and
then
finally
that
to
answer
your
next
question:
when
are
we
going
to
be
in
person?
The
city
manager
said
that
we
are
still
virtual
until
we
are
told
otherwise.
D
So
city
council
may
make
some
hybrid
arrangements
for
themselves,
but
for
boards
and
commissions
right
now
we
are
still
virtual
a
month
from
now
it
may
be
a
situation,
and
I
should
also
tell
you
in
april
I
will
be
on
vacation,
but
I'm
going
to
try
to
attend
the
meeting
virtually
to
you
know,
depending
on
what
we're
doing,
if
we're,
if
we're
in
person
I'll
try
to
join
and
if
we're
still
virtual,
you
mean
it's
no
big
deal,
but
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
in
april
I'm
going
to
be
on
vacation
that
week,
but
I
will
attend
the
meeting
and
my
managers
can
help
run
the
meeting
from
here.
D
A
A
I
have
a
few
updates
for
you,
so
we
did
host
the
home
movie
day,
durian
modernism,
and
that
was
attended.
We
had
it
was
a
free
event
and
80
people
signed
up
in
advance
to
attend
and
we
had
55
people
come,
so
that
was
good.
They
were
very
excited
and
they
really
liked
our
venue
and
are
already
asking
to
have
it
here
as
part
of
modernism
again
next
year.
So
that'll
be
good.
I
do
want
to
update
you
on
a
couple
of
the
things
that
ad
campaign.
A
We
did
not
we're
still
working
on
it.
We
will
be
launching
sometime
very
soon
this
month,
but
we,
the
airport,
did
not
have
any
free
space
for
us
in
february
and
they
said
later
in
march,
I'd
be
available
so
that
I
would
have
space
available.
So
I'm
trying
to
sync
everything
up
to
have
it
all
happening
at
the
same
time.
A
So
I'll
give
you
more
of
an
update
when
I
actually
get
to
launch
it
and
I'll
have
some
actual
numbers
to
report
to
you
and
then
also
the
wellwood
railing
is
out
for
getting
bids
for
the
materials
and
installations.
I
don't
have
an
update
on
that,
because
we're
still
in
that
process.
So
that's
on
those
things.
As
far
as
programming
goes
in
march,
we
are
still
going
to
continue
some
programs
on
zoom,
but
we
also,
I
will
have
a
couple
of
programs
in
person.
One
coming
up
is
our
personal
archiving
workshop.
A
So
if
you're
kind
of
wondering
how
to
you
know
organize
and
keep
all
those
family
photos
and
special
papers
and
important
things
that
you
want
to
make
sure
you
maintain
and
that
they
don't
disintegrate
over
time,
we're
going
to
have
a
two-hour
workshop
to
tell
you
how
to
do
that.
A
That's
on
march
9th,
you
do
have
to
sign
up
in
advance
and
it
will
be
an
in
person
here,
but
we
are
limiting
the
number
of
people
and
then
the
other
in
person
event
we're
going
to
have
is
adult
coloring
as
our
craft
for
march,
and
that
will
be
on
the
16th
in
the
learning
center.
From
three
to
four
thirty,
we
will
have
two
guest
speakers,
but
those
will
both
be
on
zoom
one
will
be
the
founder
of
desert
composting
and
she's
gonna
talk
about
soil,
health
and
the
importance
of
composting.
A
Why
it's
important
so
we're
kind
of
starting
with
the
basics
and
we're
going
to
do
a
few
other
events
going
forward
to
kind
of
help
us
all
get
there
together
and
then
we're
going
to
celebrate
the
oscars
and
talk
about
the
oscars
and
one
of
our
librarians
scott
is
going
to
work
with
me
to
present
a
program
all
about
this
year's
oscars
and
that's
towards
the
end
of
the
month.
On
the
23rd
and
again
those
two
are
on
zoom.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
fun
things
coming
up.
A
We
did
resume
programs
for
youth
and
teens
in
person
and
that's
just
getting
started,
so
it's
slow
going
now,
but
you
know,
as
people
start
to
hear,
that
oh
we're
reopened
and
we
actually
have
in-person
programs
again.
We'll
start
to
see
those
people
coming
in,
but
yeah
lots
of
things
coming
up
so
check
this
out
and
check
our
calendar.
Thank
you.
Oh
any
questions.
Sorry.
C
Yes,
thanks,
if
you
can
bear
it
genie
and
julia,
I
actually
have
four,
but
I
think
they're
all
pretty
quick,
so
the
first
really
is
to
eugenie.
Specifically,
do
you
have
any
forecast
yet
as
to
when
you
will
be
finishing
your
duties
over
at
park
and
parks
and
rec.
D
That
is
a
good
question,
the
the
they
did
repost
the
question
because
we
had
they
were
not
successful
in
the
first
first
round,
so
they
reposted
the
position.
They've
got
more
interest,
different
people
have
applied
and
they're
going
to
go
through
the
applications
pretty
soon
and
then
schedule
panel
and
interviews
in
the
next
three
to
four
weeks.
D
C
Gotcha,
maybe
maybe
june
yeah
by
june.
My
my
second
is
relating
to
the
grant
requests
you
mentioned
and
assuming
there
is
council
approval
for
proceeding.
Do
you
have
a
sense
at
this
point
of
what
the
amount
will
be
that
you
that
you
request.
D
I'm
not
yet
that's
what
I'm
going
to
work
on
in
the
next
two
weeks
and
I've.
I've
already
had
meetings
with
engineering
at
the
city
and
we
have
old
figures
from
2013.
We
have
really
detailed
reports
from
that
process,
and
so
I
don't
know
yet.
The
city
was
even
even
if
it's
not
a
million
dollars
that
we
ask
for
even
if
it's
five
or
six
million,
if
that's
a
realistic
number,
that's
what
we'll
ask
for,
but
that's
what
I'm
going
to
figure
out
in
the
next
two
weeks.
C
That's
it
okay,
third
and
then
I'll
be
done
after
almost
done
since
the
library
has
reopened.
Do
you
have
this,
maybe
for
julie
as
much
as
you
do.
You
have
a
sense
of
traffic
picking
up
again
or
do
people
know.
D
D
D
We
do,
we
could
run
daily
door
count
statistics
we
lisa,
might
some
point
in
this
meeting
be
able
to
run
a
report
we're
very
busy.
The
the
one
thing
that
is
interesting
is
that
you
know
we
were
doing
library
a
go-go,
our
pickup
service.
C
D
D
So
if
you
look
around
it's
it's
pretty
busy
when
we
were
open
before
during
the
pandemic,
we
were
getting
about
200
a
day
in
the
library
one
or
two,
maybe
200.
pre-pandemic.
We
would
see
a
thousand
people
a
day,
so
it's
still
not
as
busy
as
it
used
to
be,
but
it's
still
pretty
steady.
You
can
come
in
and
take
a
look
yeah.
C
That's
great
a
very
last
question
concerning
the
current
rule:
around
vaccination
status
and
masking
when
coming
to
the
library,
are
you
being
required
to
check
vaccination
status?
So
it's
an.
D
Honor
system
honor
system,
yeah,
okay,
all
right-
we're
still
doing
we're
still
waiting
for
the
schools
to
give
their
updated
guidelines.
I
know
that
they're,
the
governor
is
ending
masking
requirements
in
schools
march
11th,
but
the
school
districts
can
make
choices
at
that
point.
So
we're
going
to
follow
the
school's
guidelines
on
on
children
and
right
now,
when
we
do
a
children's
program,
our
our
staff
are
still
wearing
their
masks.
E
E
All
right,
thank
you.
Let's
move
on
to
the
treasures
report,
so
treasurer
jones
report,
al
wake
up.
B
So
sorry,
that's
all
right!
No!
No!
I
was
concentrating
on
this.
On
the
treasurer's
report.
I
had
a
chance
to
follow
up
with
genie
too
to
make
sure
that
I
understood
what
was
occurring
so
on
page
eight
of
your
of
the
balance
sheet.
You'll
see
that
the
there's
a
big
source
gift
of
twenty
one
thousand
one
hundred
and
forty
seven
thousand
dollars.
B
That
represents
a
gift
of
a
twenty
thousand.
And
if
you
go
to
page
fifteen
you'll
find
out
the
two
sources
of
gifts.
There
was
one
for
twenty
five
000
that
was
the
revocable
trust
left
in
the
will
of
paul
and
irene
scheibner,
and
then
a
one
dollar
anonymous
gift,
and
that
is
also
reflected
below
on
that
page.
Under
the
twenty
five
thousand
and
one
dollar
gift
down
below
the
questions
I
had
genie
was
able
to
respond
to
because
we've
done.
B
B
If
you
look
at
the
next
page,
you'll
find
it
reflected
there,
the
twenty
one
thousand,
so
twenty
five
thousand
excuse
me
there's
also
the
one
dollar
gift,
but
all
of
this
ties
out
pretty
much
as
you
can
see
and
there's
nothing
unusual.
In
this
report
I
asked
jeannie
about
the
budget
development
for
2223
and
the
library
she's
meeting
with
the
teresa
tomorrow,
they're
working
on
the
list
and
then
the
library
trust
fund.
We
can
do
that.
She
suggested
in
april
may
or
june,
it's
a
1.8
million.
B
What
are
we
going
to
do,
but
I
think
we're
having
a
subsequent
conversation
that
ed
you're
going
to
lead
of
what
we
can
no
longer
do
in
terms
of
the
investment,
which
is
what
we
were
planning
to
do
with
a
lot
of
that
money,
and
that
was
it
pretty
much.
There
was
nothing
else
unusual
on
the
report.
E
So
genie
is
the
is
the
fifty
four
thousand
dollars
now
the
balance
with
the
the
foundation?
So
that's
a
correct,
updated
number
through
the
last
payment.
D
E
D
Right
I
want,
I
want
that
subcommittee
to
get
together.
We
can
talk
about
it
and
then
give
a
presentation,
and
basically
you
all
can
decide
how
you
want
to
handle
the
large
amount
of
the
money
and
maybe
allocate
it
or
designate
it
somehow
and
then
buy
use
the
money
for
books
like
we
did
this
last
year,
which
we
really
appreciate.
E
B
E
C
E
C
C
B
B
E
So
the
next
item
is,
as
you
may
recall,
from
our
last
meeting.
We
were
summoned
to
testify
before
measure
j
and
that
the
the
testimony
was
a
result
of
the
evaluation
of
our
community
projects.
Grant
and
a
couple
of
the
commissioners
were
asking
for
a
report
from
the
library
on
what
our
priorities
were
and
so
that
they
could.
I
guess,
evaluate
our
request
and
looking
forward
to
the
projects
that
are
listed
and
their
plans
and
budget
and
reflect
on
the
cip.
E
So
we
went
before
them.
I
will.
I
will
I'm
going
to
speak
bluntly
and
honestly.
Here
it
was
the
night.
E
It
was
their
first
meeting
after
the
newspaper
article
where
the
measure
j
committee
was
quite
upset
over
comments
made
by
council
member
woods.
So
most
of
the
meeting
was
dedicated
to
that
conversation
which
shortened
our
time.
I
was
really
praying
they
would
get
to
us
first
before
they
had
that
discussion,
but
as
luck
would
have
it,
we
sat
through
that
conversation
with
them
and
then
at
the
the
next
item
was
was
ours.
E
So
I
think,
and
I've
shared
the
presentation
with
all
of
you,
and
I
just
thought
I
would
do
some
highlights
if
you
guys
don't
mind
and
I'm
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
questions.
If
you
look
at
the
very
first
page
I
this
was
me
and
and
genie.
Let
me
do
this,
even
though
I
was
this
is
on
page
by
the
way
I'm
gonna.
E
I
I
wasn't
trying
to
be
a
smart
ass,
but
in
a
way
I
was
trying
to
be
a
smart
ass.
So
I
know
this
didn't
go
in
the
minutes
of
me.
It's
saying
he
was
a
smart
ass,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
felt
was
really
important
in
the
opening
remarks
was
to
stress
that
the
library
has
been
a
part
of
measure
j
well
before
the
it
was
adopted.
E
So
what
you're
looking
at
there
is
the
actual
brochure
that
was
handed
out
to
all
the
citizens
in
palm
springs
to
get
them
to
vote
for
measure
j.
So
my
first
comment
was
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
two
of
the
four
pictures
is
the
library,
and
it
was
all
about
the
library
and
the
library
was
used
to
convince
voters
that
we
need
measure
j
and
by
the
way
I
wasn't
saying
that
we
don't
need
measure
j.
E
I
just
wanted
to
remind
them
that
we've
been
there
all
along
and
I
jeannie
helped
me
prepare
that
we
so
far
have
received
980
000
of
measure
j
fund,
since
it
started
next
screen
genie
and
so-
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
for
them
where
that
money
went
so
they
can
see.
I
also,
I
think
I
may
have
mentioned
to
you
guys
that
we
had
623
000
ready
to
be
spent
when
the
the
epidemic
shut
the
city
down.
So
I
basically
said
first
off
on
the
you
go
to
the
next
stream
jeannie.
E
My
first
question
for
them
is
where's
our
six
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
dollars.
We
sure
would
like
to
have
it
back
of
course,
that
really
wasn't
the
group.
That
would
do
that.
It
really
is
back
to
the
city,
but
there
is
a
way
that
we
have
figured
out.
E
The
money
is
coming
back
to
us,
but
I
felt
it
was
worthless
being
up
there
like
everybody
else
and
saying
where's
our
money,
and
then
we
talked
about
how
things
started
transpiring
from
april
2021
and
where
we
are
with
kind
of
matching
up
to
their
priorities.
E
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
know
is
that
there
is
money
and
there's
nothing
this
coming
year
for
from
measure
j
for
us,
I'm
just
asking
that
they
give
us
our
community
grant
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
I
I
think
that
we
answered
all
their
questions
about
that.
I
think
that
we
will
get
something
I
think
that
they
they
understood
after
we
did
our
presentation,
what
the
money
is
needed
for
and
why
we
ask
for
it
and
how
it
supports
our
strategic
plan.
E
And
then,
if
you
look
at
the
next
year,
which
is
22
23,
there
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That
was
that
was
there
to
start
the
planning
for
the
fry
building
and
then
the
next
year
is
480,
so
that
kind
of
starts
getting
close
to
that
600
000
that
we
had
at
one
time.
So
I
think
that
that
money,
even
though
it
was
lost
to
us
and
I'm
certainly
not
ready
to
roll
over
and
not
ask
for
to
continue
to
ask
for
it.
E
We
also
pointed
out,
if
you
look
at
this
this
slide,
you
see
the
photo
there,
the
fry
building,
so
I
said
this
is
the
building
on
and
I
referred,
I
introduced
the
concept
that
the
library
has
a
campus.
We
have
multiple
buildings
and
this
is
one
of
those
buildings,
and
this
is
what
we
want
to
update
and
and
turn
it
back
into
a
wonderful
example
of
a
mid-century
building.
E
It
was
about
about
the
time
that
modernism
week
was
starting,
so
I
got
their
attention
on
that
and
everyone
starts
to
say:
oh
okay,
I
remember
that
building
and
what
we're
going
to
use
it
for
and
then
we
just
reviewed
their
numbers.
All
these
numbers
by
the
way
are
right
lifted
from
their
plan,
so
there
was
nothing
new.
There
was
no
surprises,
and
so
I
really
said
we're
we're
aligned
with
your
priorities.
E
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
these
numbers
don't
go
away
and
gina
you're
going
to
have
to
help
me
the
representative
from
the
finance
department
that
was
there,
the
man.
I
know
him.
I
can
see
him.
I
don't
remember
his
name.
E
D
Oh,
that's
joel
he's
the
engineer.
E
Right,
thank
you.
So
you
know
people
are
acknowledging
that
these
pro
the
project
is
there,
and
I
think
that
you
know
it's
a
matter
of
just
making
sure
that
it
goes
to
the
process
and
gets
funded.
Is
there
another
slide?
I
can't
remember
yes
yeah
so
and
then
I
I
closed,
and
I
will
tell
you
this
got
a
lot
of
their
attention.
I
think
this
probably
sealed
the
deal
for
us.
E
If
you,
if
you
agree
with
me,
jeanne
is
where
I
said:
two
things
have
occurred
since
we
probably
have
worked
with
you
guys
for
our
priorities.
First
thing:
we
have
an
opportunity
to
apply
for
up
to
10
million
dollars
from
the
state
of
california
for
matching
funds.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
and
interest
on
that.
Naturally,
so
I
think
that
when
genie
presents
the
city
council,
it's
going
to
get
full
support
and
yes,
we
need
to
go
after
that
state
money
right.
E
The
other
thing
was
that
the
truck
I
said,
the
trustees,
the
friends
and
the
foundation-
have
come
together
and
are
really
ready
to
get
behind
this
and
raise
the
money
that
we
need
to
make
up.
The
difference
for
these
projects
to
make
them
nice-
and
I
said
so,
I
you
have
a
community
that
is
behind
you.
I
also
said
in
my
opening
remarks.
E
I
reminded
them
that
we
spent
money
to
have
a
meeting
of
the
community
to
talk
about
our
strategic
plan
and
how
the
community
is
ready
for
something
to
be
done
for
the
library
it's
loud.
It's
clear
there
is
support
there.
I
wanted
to
say:
don't
make
us
start
coming
and
testifying
like
the
pickleball
court.
People
are,
but
we
may
have
to
do
something
like
that.
I
think
we
need
to
be
prepared
to
get
the
support
from
our
community
again
to
speak
loud
and
speak
clear
about
the
library.
E
So,
basically
we
ran
out
of
time
because
it
was
getting
near
the
end
of
time
because
of
the
earlier
presentation,
but
I
hope
I
used
every
minute
of
it
to
to
get
it
into
their
brain.
I
will
tell
you:
I
got
feedback
from
several
of
the
commissioners
and
some
of
the
city
council
members
that
were
listening
and
everyone
said
that
they
thought
it
was
a
a
great
presentation
and
it
reminded
them
that
the
library
needs
attention.
E
So
I
feel
like
we
got
our
message
across
and
now
it's
a
matter
of
us
continuing
to
press
it
to
make
sure
we
don't
get
lost
again.
Let
me
stop
there
and
see
hey
genie
if
you'd
like
to
add
any
comments,
or
if
anyone
has
any
questions.
D
No,
I
think
I
thought
your
presentation
was
very
nice
and
I
I
felt
very
happy
at
the
end,
how
they
were
really
interested
in
the
grant
and
if
they
needed
to
do
anything
to
show
their
support-
and
it
was
it
was
good
and-
and
my
agenda
item
on
march
10th
is
on
the
consent
calendar.
So
hopefully
it's
just
that
being
getting
permission
to
apply
for
the
grant
is
really
just
a
formalities.
E
Very
optimistic,
okay.
The
chair
recognizes
dr
borba
question.
E
C
Thanks
first,
I
I
just
wanted
to
publicly
thank
you
for
this
presentation
on
our
collective
behalf,
ed,
I
can't
imagine
being
better
represented
than
than
what
you
did
for
us
in
front
of
the
measure,
j
commission
and
it's
such
an
awkward
moment
frankly,
right
after
the
upset
I'll
just
put
it
that
way.
Yes,
so
my
one
question
is
about
questions
you
may
have
received
from
them.
Was
there
anything
provocative
or
particularly
curious
that
you
recall.
E
Well,
like
I
like
we
said
they,
they
really
did
have
a
lot
of
questions
around
the
state
grants.
They
were
asking
questions
of
genie
around
that
they
were
asking
about
the
community
project
grant
and
why
we
would
need
that
meeting.
Room
and
jeannie
had
the
picture
of
an
example
of
one.
E
So
they
wanted
to
know
why,
and
I
said
well
to
be
honest,
our
response
to
the
the
demand
that
we've
heard
from
our
community
on
can
we
do
something
for
the
library
it's
our
way
of
responding
to
show
them
that
we're
taking
steps
to
respond
to
community
need
and
building
a
meeting
room
precursor
to
the
frye
building,
and
I
we
talked
about
the
freight
building
because
they
won't
know
what
we're
going
to
do
with
that.
So
I
I
would
think
that
their
their
questions
were
quite
probing
but
confirming,
I
think
they
all
knew.
E
Why
our?
Why
we
need
to
do
so.
I
don't
think
we
were
there
to
convince
them
that
the
library
needs.
I
think
they
just
wanted
to
hear
from
us
that
we
still
do
agree
with
those
priorities,
and
we
do
I
mean
we
just
want
the
money
and
the
project
to
start,
I
will
say
the
other
one
that
keeps
coming
up
and
I-
and
I
think
you
guys,
may
hear
this
yourselves
as
trustees.
E
Is
there
still
the
question
of?
Are
we
getting
a
remodeled
library
or
a
new
library
and
here's
how
I
answer
that
I
I
answered
it.
I
think
the
way
that
what
would
jeannie
case
do-
and
it
was
the
we
have
determined-
that
the
library
based
on
community
input
by
the
way
some
of
those
trustees-
as
you
may
remember,
juanita,
were
on
that
committee
with
us
right,
so
they
were
very
familiar
with
those
weeks
we
spent
the
the
decision.
E
E
That
really
is
tied
to
the
next
step
of
the
planning
process,
which
includes
the
program
plan,
which
is
where
we
would
have
professionals
come
in
and
evaluate
what
we
need
in
a
library.
Then
the
building
is
designed
outward
right.
So
I
answered
that
question
and
I
think
that
I
probably
I
hope
that
got
across
because
you
know
I
wasn't
about
to
say:
let's
tear
that
building
down
or
let's
remodel
it.
E
I
think
everybody
needs
to
be
reminded
that
that
decision
will
be
made
at
another
time
in
the
near
future
with
input
from
the
community,
and
I
don't
now
because
every
time
I
answer
that
question
at
a
cocktail
party,
everyone
says:
oh,
my
gosh,
all
of
the
people
are
going
to
come
after
you.
If
you
touch
that
building.
Well,
I
don't
I
don't
know
I
mean.
E
E
C
C
Ed,
I'm
still
very
confused
about
this
623
thousand
dollars.
So
where
is
that
money
where's.
E
All
funds
like
that
were
put
were
frozen
in
case
of
an
emergency
that
we
may
be
facing
in
the
future,
and
so
all
projects
were
put
on
hold
money
was
pretty
much.
You
know
the
the
measure
j
funds
were
like
collapsed
and
taken
away.
So
I
think
that
what
happened
is
that
they
viewed
that
as
something
that
could
wait
and
that
money
went
back
into
the
general
fund
to
be
used
in
case
of
emergency.
D
So
I
just
the
money
is
the
money
everything
was
frozen.
Like
ed
said
exactly
as
you
described,
everything
was
frozen,
the
money
is,
is
there
it's
just
580
000?
I
think
instead
of
623.,
so
it's
it's
there.
They
they
built
the
five-year
plan,
the
proposal
and
to
answer
craig's
question
about.
Why
is
really?
Why
isn't
there
anything
in
the
budget
this
year?
It
was
because
I
think
they
were
really
trying
to
get
back
to
that.
We
got
a
year
behind,
because
2020
everything
shut
down
the
money
was
frozen
taken
away.
D
So
there
are
those
projects
that
were
already
in
the
pipeline
and
were
frozen,
so
they
had
to
bring
they're
doing
the
2020
projects
and
all
and
the
backlog
right
now.
So
that's
why
there's
no
money,
I
think,
in
the
five-year
plan
for
the
library
but
they've
set
us
out
for
next
year
and
the
four
the
480
and
the
hundred
thousands
580.
D
B
Yeah,
I
I
guess
my
question
the
money's
there
I
I
understand
why
the
city
did
what
it
did,
but
we
ended
up
with
a
revenue
structure,
a
revenue
stream
that
they
far
exceeded
anyone's
anticipation
and
in
fact
we
ended
up
with
a
surplus
again
which
allowed
the
city
to
return
certain
positions
that
they
had
taken
away.
B
C
E
I
agree
so
in
a
sidebar
conversation
that
I
had
with
then
mayor
holstadge
about
six
months
ago.
She
encouraged
us
to
come
back
and
ask
for
that
money
because
of
what
you,
just
we
all
know,
is
that
there
was
a
surplus
this
year.
There's
some
extra
money
there.
We
we
couldn't
get
on
her
agenda
until
she
was
gone
as
mayor,
and
then
we
spoke
with
mayor
middleton,
mayor
middleton,
pretty
much
said
now.
E
Now
is
the
time
to
be
clear
on
your
priorities
and
clarify
what
the
library
needs
and
remind
everybody
of
what
we
need
and
the
pr.
I
think
this
presentation
was
their
first
step
towards
that
now
I
I
don't
know
why
we
couldn't
through
genie,
asked
the
question
of
the
city
manager,
because
it
was
on
the
city
manager's
desk,
to
be
approved
when
everything
was
frozen.
It
wasn't
like
that
it
was
in
the
works.
E
It
was
ready
to
go
and
that
if
you
and
here's
here's
here's
my
dilemma,
we
were
ready
to
extend
library
strategy's
contract
to
begin
work
on
the
library
program
to
help
start
the
design
of
the
building.
E
I
have
said
to
jeannie:
I
will
say
it
to
all
of
you,
my
experience
as
a
librarian,
knowing
that
our
timeline
is
still
maybe
a
year
or
so
away,
I'm
not
so
sure,
that's
the
best
use
of
our
money
today,
because
what
works
we
put
in
there
even
a
year
from
now.
If
we
were
to
start
this
plan,
libraries
are
changing
so
rapidly
and
so
quickly
we
would.
We
may
have
to
even
revise
that
plan.
E
The
other
money
that
was
in
there
was
to
begin
the
fry
building
to
me
that
that's
the
money,
we
should
probably
go
for
and
ask
that
it
be
put
back
in
and
can
we
start
the
planning
process
to
redevelop
that
building
now
you
know
that
that's
my
opinion.
I
of
course
represent
all
of
you
and
be
happy
to
put
forward,
but
you
know
jeannie.
I
don't
know
what
you
think
about
that,
but
should
would
that
be
a
logical
question
to
ask
or
a
clarification
with
the
city
manager.
D
That
we're
almost
done
with
year
one
year,
one
is
just
kind
of
a
recovery
year
year
two
starts
in
july
and
there's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
budgeted
or
planned
for
the
fry
building
renovation.
So
for
planning.
So
you
don't
even
have
to
ask
it's
there
and
even
better.
If
we
get
that
10
million
infrastructure
grant
it
includes,
we
can
pay
for
planning
architectural
fees.
All
of
those
things
in
that
grant
so
and
we're
going
to
know
about
the
grant-
hopefully
they
say
spring,
which
I'm
getting
june
or
so
on
on
award
notification.
B
B
B
B
B
Well
but
you're
saying
we
don't
have
to
ask
for
it
because
it's
there
well,
then
you
say:
well,
let's
measure
jay's
money,
so
it's
not
really
our
money.
This
is
where
the
confusion
emanates.
I
think
juanita
and
I
come
from
the
same
position
on
this.
It
we're
trying
to
make
sense
of
this,
and
if
it's
our
money,
I
don't
care
what
the
source
is
measure
j.
Anything
else
doesn't
make
any
difference
to
me,
but
if
they
say
the
money
belongs
to
us,
then
why
can't
we
transfer
it
into
our
budget
and
reflect
it.
D
Okay,
so
semantics:
legally,
it's
not
your
money.
It's
the
city
council's
money
and
it's
they've
got
this
five-year
plan
capital
implement
plan
that
is
part
of
the
measure
j
account,
but.
E
So
carry
can
I
interject
here
for
a
second,
so
jeannie.
If
I
understand
the
process
from
previously
you're
right,
I
forget
we're
four
months
away
from
the
this
next
phase.
So
is
there
a
process
we're
waiting
on
for
measure
j
to
confirm
their
next
year's
budget?
Have
they
confirmed
that
that
is
their
budget
and
that's
what
they're
going
for
to
for
city,
council
or
asking
for
city
council.
D
C
B
I
and
again
I
apologize.
I
promise
I'm
not
going
to
say
another
word,
but
I
have
to
say
one
more
word
because
I
feel
as
though
I'm
getting
the
run
around
in
an
answer,
not
not
deliberately
on
your
part.
It's
just
it's
this
convoluted,
it's
ours,
but
it's
not
ours.
Major
j
has
to
recommend
it
and
I
understand
they
recommend,
but
I
also
understand
they
want
more
authority
and
control
too
there's
a
whole
nether
undercurrent
underway.
B
But,
aside
from
that,
I
I'm
so
I
I
I
managed
a
two
billion
dollar
budget
for
the
state
of
california.
I
know
how
to
budget
money
and
how
to
move
it
and
everything
else.
I
have
the
faintest
idea
what's
going
on
with
this
particular
set
of
money,
I
I'm
trying
to
get
a
definitive
answer
and
it's
it's.
I
feel
like
I'm
going
around
in
circles
and
not
really
getting
a
definitive
answer
and
I
apologize
no.
E
No,
no,
I
think
I
think
our
leverage
point
next,
as
as
a
board
is
that
we
need
to-
and
I
can
certainly
do
this
is
to
follow
up
with
the
chair
of
measure
j
to
see
if
we
we've
completely
answered
their
question
and
if
they
are
in
support
of
their
recommendations
and
that
their
their
priorities
for
next
year's
recommendation
to
city
council
includes
our
priorities,
which
is
the
four
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars.
I
think
we
need
to
get
to
get
an
answer
from
them
that
they're
still
behind
it.
B
E
I'll
come
back
to
that
so
now
this!
This
is
the
this.
This
is
the
their
recommendation
to
city
council
for
us
now.
I
think
once
we
know
they're
behind
it,
then
we
need
to
go
to
our
representatives
and
city
council
in
the
mayor's
office
and
say
we
understand,
measuring
j
is
bringing
forth
the
recommendation.
E
We
support
that
recommendation
and
whenever
we
watch
and
see
it
ever
come
up
on
an
agenda
for
city
council,
we
need
to
be
there
to
make
a
testimony
to
support
it
and
get
our
support
groups
to
make
it
to
testify
on
our
behalf.
I
think
that's
how
we're
going
to
support
that
money
to
come
back
to
us
yeah
by
the
way,
I'm
not
convinced
that
we
need
to
push
too
hard.
E
B
E
E
They
were
discussing
that
night
that
there
is.
There
was
a
million
dollars
from
last
year
that
wasn't
spent
in
dollars
from
this
year
that
they
have
to
spend
and
they're
they're.
Assuming
they've
got
two
million
dollars
to
hand
out
for
all
of
those
applications
of
which
I
think
they
had
what
50
something
applications.
They
were
evaluating,
54.
That
seems
to
stick
out
in
my
memory,
but
they
they
have
that
money
to
hand
out
to
those
grants.
E
Now.
I
know
I
heard
three
million,
but
I
think
that's
where
the
conversation
came
up
with
council
member
woods
is
well.
How
much
did
we
really
have
right?
So
that
was
where
that
conversation
came
from?
That's
not
our!
That's
not
what
we're
talking
about
here.
That's
our
hundred
thousand
dollar
request
that
will
come
out
of
that
pot
of
money.
E
That's
that's
a
whole
different
pot
of
money
and
as
judy
mentioned
they'll
recommend
to
city
council
which
of
the
projects
to
fund
and
how
much
and
then
city
council
will
vote
on
it
and
decide
if,
if
they
agree
with
them
or
I
guess
they
could
change
their
recommendation
if
they
want
it.
E
Yeah
all
right,
let
me
recognize,
let
me
recognize
trustee
borba.
F
Yeah,
I
have
a
couple
of
items
here.
The
first
one
is
ed.
I
agree
with
you
that
the
fried
building
should
be
our
first
priority
and
let's
get
this
project
done,
it's
been
dragging
on
for
quite
a
while.
The
other
thing
is
ginny.
Correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
the
the
money
was
recommended
by
the
j
committee
for
the
623
000,
but
it
was
never
really
finalized.
Is
that
correct.
D
No,
I
think
it
was
it.
I
thought
it.
I
think
it
was
recommended.
So
some
of
the
things
like
they
have
their
community.
B
E
Approved
it
was
approved.
Yes,
sir,
it
was
approved
because
city
manager
ready
told
us
that
he
had
the
contracts
on
his
desk
to
sign
so
that
the
money
had
to
have
been
approved.
I
was
sitting
there
at
11
o'clock,
one
night
when
they
were
talking
about
this,
so
yes,
they
they
had
approved
that
money
to
be
spent
and
that's
when
it
got
it
was
frozen.
E
E
F
Okay,
when
I'm
looking
at
the
100
000
for
the
planning,
this
is
a
480
000
project
and
we're
spending
a
hundred
thousand
on
planning,
but
besides
architecture
and
engineering,
what
are
we
looking
at
here
for
the
hundred
thousand
dollars?
This
seems
like
a
high
number
for
a
480
000,
expensive.
D
E
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah.
I
think
trustee
norgard,
you
had
a
question.
Okay,
so
I
think
I
think
we're
in
the
right
direction.
Everyone!
I
think
that
we
just
got
to
we've,
got
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
take
our
eye
off
of
this
and
we
watch
these
agendas.
E
E
I
don't
know
because
I
didn't
know
about
that
agenda,
but
I
just
think
we
as
a
group
need
to
be
ready
to
mobilize
and
go
and
speak
and
say
we
really
do
need
these
projects,
even
if
they're
all
convinced
we're
going
to
get
them,
it
never
hurts
to
just
reinforce.
E
F
E
Is
essential
yeah
and
the
foundation's
ready
to
raise
money
around
it
too?
So
I
that
was
why
I
wanted
to
make
sure
they
understood
that
we've
got.
We've
got
people
in
the
community
ready
to
throw
some
money
at
these
projects.
You
know
it's
not
all
going
to
be
city
money.
We
can
find
partners
to
help
us
make
this
happen
much
like
they're
doing
with
the
theater
and
other
projects
that
you
know
we're
kind
of
unique
where
we
have
people
ready
to
write
checks,
right,
okay,
rusty
jones.
B
Oops,
let
me
go
I've
just
apologized,
I'm
going
to
be
in
transit,
but
I'm
staying
involved.
You
won't
see
me,
but
I
will
be
participating,
would
be
in
my
earphones,
okay
and
and
genie
there's
an
outside
chance.
I
could
get
dropped
and
in
which
case
I
will
dial
back
in
so
watch
for
me,
but
I
should
be
fine
because
I
want
to
continue
in
this
discussion
so.
E
Thank
you
we'll
we'll
wait
for
you
here,
we'll
see,
we'll
see
you
soon,
okay,
so
any
other
questions
about
measure
j
and
where
we
are
with
measure
j
I
will
follow
up
tomorrow
with
the
chair.
E
Is
jeffrey
bernstein
I'll
ask
him
if
there's
any
follow-up
questions,
because
it's
been
a
couple
of
weeks
since
we
were
before
them
and
if
we
can
get
there,
I
think
they're
still
evaluating
the
community
application
grants,
but
I
I
want
to
ask
him:
can
he
give
me
some
feedback
and
are
they
still
supporting
the
priorities
that
we've
put
before
them
and
get
some
indication
from
them
that
we're
all
going
in
the
right
direction?
F
Ed,
I
appreciate
your
effort
on
this
and
this
is
really
a
good
step
in
the
right
direction
for
us.
Thank
you.
Well,
I.
E
E
E
I'm
sorry
is
item
7b
and
we've
had
a
a
very
recent
urgent
development
come
from
the
city
attorney
that
I'm
going
to
ask
janie
to
bring
us
up
to
speed.
But
a
lot
of
our
discussion
that
we
put
in
for
the
last
almost
year
about
investing
of
the
trust
fund
and
how
we'd
like
to
see
it
go
forward,
has
probably
collapsed
around
us
as
a
result
of
a
recent
ruling
from
the
city
attorney.
E
I
think
that
we
need
to
hear
what
the
city
attorney
has
said
from
genie
and
talk
about
it
and
decide
how
we're
going
to
regroup
so
jeanne.
Would
you
please
take
over
and
give
us
an
update
on
on
the
findings
of
the
city
attorney.
D
Sure
don't
don't
feel
as
lost,
because
there
are
options
at
your
last
meeting.
You
wanted
to
bring
in
investment
firms
to
give
presentations
about
investments,
and
I
just
wanted
to
double
check
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
see
if
that
was
allowable
and
their
response
was
the
finances
of
the
city
are
for
the
city,
treasurer
and
city
council,
and
not
for
the
individual
boards.
D
You
should
not
invite
investment
firms
to
the
boarding
as
it
is
outside
the
purview
of
the
board's
powers,
but
the
options
are
you
can
give
money
to
the
foundation
without
having
any
restrictions
on
how
they
invested?
They,
you
wouldn't
have
any
say
in
how
it
was
invested,
but
you
could
give
it
to
the
founder.
The
founder.
You
could
give
it
to
the
friends
either.
You
could
give
it
to
the
foundation.
D
You
could
loan
it
to
the
foundation
again,
you
can't
dictate
how
they
invest
it
and
it
could
come
back
either
either
way
it
could
come
back
and
that's
really
it.
You
just
cannot
be
involved
in
giving
it
to
the
foundation
and
then
telling
them
how
to
invest
it
or
what
investments
to
put
it
in,
because
then
you're
skirting
the
city's
procedures,
so
that
I
think
that's
that
covers
it
all.
Right
and.
F
E
So,
as
a
representative
to
the
foundation,
the
foundation
has
finalized
their
investment
strategies
and
they
have
started
investing
their
money
that
they've
been
raising
and
they've
been
raising.
You
know
a
little
bit
of
money,
so
they
they've
done
a
real
good
job
in
getting
reorganized.
I
I
think
that
we
I'm
assuming
genie.
We
certainly
could
hear
from
the
foundation
board
on
what
they
finally
decided
and
how
they
are
moving
forward
with.
You
know
their
plans,
especially
in
light
of
the
fact
they
just
updated
their
strategic
plan.
E
So
I
think
we
should
entertain
a
presentation
from
the
board
president
on
what
they're
doing,
but
I
think
craig
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
have
to
I'm
still
not
clear
on,
and
this
came
up
several
years
ago-
and
I
think
is
probably
the
next
logical
step
for
the
foundation.
E
Is
that
and
I'm
familiar
with
this
because
in
libraries,
where
I've
worked,
where
we've
had
a
foundation,
that's
raised
money
they
in
san
francisco.
We
called
it
a
compact
for
lack
of
better
word
and
that's
where
the
foundation
negotiated
with
the
city
of
san
francisco.
If
we
raise
31
million
dollars
for
you,
how
would
he
give
that
money
back
to
you?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
give
it
to
the
city?
What's
the
process
for
giving
it
to
the
city
to
go
to
the
library,
and
I
know
that
sounds
like
well.
E
D
E
So,
that's
why
I
think
the
foundation
it
would.
It
would
be
in
their
best
interest
to
establish
this
compact
with
the
city
to
cover
all
donations
that
they
receive
from
everybody,
including
the
trust
fund,
including
citizens,
foundations
anywhere
else
they're
going
to
raise
money
because
they
can
get
money
from
all
kinds
of
sources
when
we
start
a
capital
campaign
and
how
would
they
give
it
back
to
the
city
specifically
to
benefit
the
library
you're
right?
Is
it
a
building?
E
Is
it
furnishings
what
what?
How
would
they
specify
that
money
is
coming
back
going
back
to
the
trust
fund,
I
guess
could
be,
would
be
okay,
but
to
me
that
just
sounds
that,
doesn't
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
that's
anyway,
I'm
not
gonna.
I
think
the
city
attorney
would
want
to
rule
on
that
right.
Well,.
D
The
city
does
have
a
gift
policy.
Okay,
thank
you,
david.
D
E
But
you
know,
but
we're
talking
potentially
millions,
not
thousands,
so
I
mean
the
the
foundation
could
say
we
we
have.
We
have
well,
let's
say.
For
example,
we
asked
the
foundation
to
raise
30
million
on
our
30
20
million
dollars
to
to
make
the
building
everything
that
the
city
can't
right,
and
that
could
be
all
the
stuff
that
we've
dreamed
of
for
a
library
they
go
out
and
they
raise
it.
I
mean
they're,
you
know:
do
they
just
give
the
money
back
to
the
city
to
pay?
For
that?
I
know
the
foundation
in
san
francisco.
E
They
often
paid
for
that
stuff.
You
know
they
would
just
write
the
check
to
the
vendors
and
they
paid
for
it
and
made
it
a
gift
to
the
city.
So
all
the
chairs
and
tables
and
artwork
that
they
bought.
It
was
a
gift
to
the
city,
but
you
see
what
I'm
saying.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
outlined
with
the
foundation
so
that
we're
all
clear
then
we're
considered
the
we,
the
gr
this
group
right
here.
E
This
body
would
be
like
anybody
else
approaching
the
foundation
to
give
a
gift,
and
we
would
be
assured
that
there
is
an
agreement
that
that
money
is
going
to
come
back
to
the
library
in
some
way
somehow,
because
if
we
can't
specify,
I
for
one
would
want
to
make
sure
that
I
know
before
we
gave
money
to
them
that
it's
going
to
come
back
in
a
way.
That's
going
to
benefit
the
library
right,
I'm
not
saying
they're
not
going
to
do
that.
E
D
And
the
foundation's
bylaws
state
that
the
money
is
to
be
used
for
the
library
right
there.
E
E
They,
of
course
they
have
their
investment
strategy,
they're,
going
to
invest
that
money
they're
going
to
make
more
money
off
of
it,
they're
going
to
create
that
money
to
go
to
the
library,
and
so
we
know
in
their
bylaws
that
that
money
will
come
back
to
the
library
at
some
point
right
and
then
down
the
road.
The
building
is
ready
to
go.
We're
ready
to
write
a
check
for
all
the
furnishings
that
we
want
them
to
buy.
We
can
rest
assured
that
that
money
is
going
to
come
back
to
the
library
in
that
form.
D
No
I'm
saying
well,
maybe,
but
also
the
money
is
to
benefit
the
library,
so
they
could
spend
that
money
to
help
create
fundraising
programs
or
other
things
to
raise
money
to
add
campaigns
they
they
could.
The
the
money
would
benefit
the
library
whether
it
comes
back
or
they
spend
it
as
a
to
benefit
the
library,
that's
that
would
still
be
acceptable.
Okay,.
E
When
we
were
when
I
was
in
san
francisco,
the
city
had
this
agreement
in
place
and
it
was
a
two-way
agreement.
They
said
to
the
library
foundation
we're
going
to
do
bricks
and
mortar
for
that
new
main
library
which
costs
millions.
You
know
it's
like
20
million
dollars,
but
we
can't
afford
tables
and
chairs
we're
looking
for
you
to
do
that,
so
they
had
that
agreement
that
compact,
that
said,
the
library
foundation
was
on
the
hook
to
help
them
raise
money
for
those
tables.
E
Now,
by
the
way,
the
foundation
had
many
wealthy
people
on
there
that
you
know
personally
guaranteed
that
there
would
be
fine
furnishings
in
that
building
and
getty.
So
you
know
if
that,
but
that
helped
the
city
feel
rest
assured
that
the
money
was
going
to
come
back
with
what
they
wanted.
The
city
said
we
want
furniture
from
the
foundation,
basically
and
that's
what
they
did
and
book
shelves
and
all
the
nice
things
that
they
put
there.
C
D
E
I
I
think
one's
that
sure
could
be
one
way.
I
would
feel
better
knowing
that
there's
an
agreement
with
the
city
that
says
when
it
comes
time
to
raise
the
money
for
this
building,
the
library,
foundation
and
friends
will
raise
money
for
these
projects,
and
you
know
they
have
an
agreement
with
them.
Rest
assured
it
may
not
be
they
might
get
all
the
money
they
want,
but
at
least
they
know
that
the
money
coming
from
the
foundation
is
going
to
that
pot.
E
I
guess
because
I
think,
when
we
tie
the
hands
of
the
foundation
with
the
loan
it
it
just.
I
don't
know
it
just
feels
like
it
doesn't
feel
right
to
me,
but
you
know
I
that's
just
me.
I
can
tell
you
I
can
tell
you
guys,
they're
coming
back
to
us
with
that
loan.
E
That's
in
place
now
to
ask
because
the
the
the
consultants
have
suggested
that
they
not
be
as
aggressive
paying
that
money
back
and
invest
that
money
to
raise
more
money
for
the
library,
if
that
makes
sense,
because
they're
taking
money
out
of
the
money
they've
received
from
from
citizens
and
giving
us
two
thousand
dollars
to
go
to
the
trust
fund-
and
I
was
thinking
this
morning
in
the
shower
in
preparation
for
this
meeting.
So
here's
here's
what's
happening
there.
E
E
You
know,
so
it
really
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
the
the
way
we've
got
it
set
up
and
they
feel
that
we
are
they're
on
the
hook
for
two
thousand
dollars
a
month
to
get
back
to
us
to
go
to
the
trust
fund
and
they're,
taking
it
out
of
their
investment
account
to
make
it
right.
Something
does
feel
right
to
me
on
that.
Maybe
I'm
alone
here,
dr
barbara
and
al.
B
Let
me
mute
there.
I
I
think
we
were
both
caught
off
guard
by
the
city
attorney's
most
recent
ruling.
B
Basically,
they
cut
us
off
at
the
paths
in
terms
of
what
we
were
trying
to
do
and
planning
to
do,
and
I
guess
I'm
still,
as
I
understood
from
talking
with
a
genie
earlier,
we
can
give
the
money
to
the
foundation
to
invest,
but
we
can't
tell
them
how
to
invest
it
right,
and
I
guess
my
question
to
all
of
us
is:
do
we
feel
comfortable
doing
that
I
mean
there's
still
the
question
at
hand.
Do
we
want
to
make
money
on
the
money
we
have?
B
That
gives
us
a
greater
return
than
what
we're
getting
from
the
city
of
palm
springs
as
it
merges
there.
I
mean.
That's
still
still
the
question
on
the
table
in
my
mind
and
if
so,
how
do
we
do
that?
Are
we
comfortable
giving
it
to
the
foundation
and
giving
them
carbon
to
say?
Hey
just
go,
do
what
you
want
and
let
us
know
how
you're
doing
and
then
how
do
we
get
the
money
back?
Isn't
another
question
I
so
I'm
still
a
little
a
little
hazy
on
all
of
this.
Let.
E
Me,
let
me
let
me
clarify
something
jeanne.
I
think
you
need
to
share
with
us
the
conversation
around
we
really
we
really
have.
We
can't
even
tell
them
how
to
invest
the
money
with
the
city,
I
mean
we
can
attend
their
investment
meetings,
but
we
really
aren't
interested
in
us
saying
that
we
want
them
to
invest
trust
fund
a
certain
way,
we're
pretty
with
we're
stuck
with
the
status
quo
right.
D
Yes,
bottom
bottom
line
is
yes,
the
the
finance
department
has
an
investment
company
that
they,
the
city
council,
directs
them
on
generally
how
to
do
investments.
The
city
has
an
investment
policy
and
they
are
guided
by
the
state
who
has
some
restrictions
on
the
types
of
investments,
because
it's
governmental
money
and
it
needs
to
be
somewhat
safe
investments
if
you
will
and
more
conservative
so,
but
they
do
have
a
mixture
of
of
types
of
investments
and
our
money.
D
C
B
F
Rap
was
getting
three
percent
return,
and
the
myself
center
was
getting
a
five
percent
return.
F
I
just
have
a
couple
comments
here.
I
I'm
always
confused
the
idea
that
this
is
considered
city's
money
when
it
was
money
that
was
given
to
the
library
trustees
and
not
given
to
the
city.
It's
not
tax
dollars,
we're
still
under
the
idea
of
that
law,
which
goes
back
to
the
our
orange
county
issue
of
bad
investments.
But
again
this
is
not
tax
dollars.
We
shouldn't
be
under
that
umbrella,
but
I'll.
Let
the
attorney
say
what
he
wants
to
say.
F
I'm
thinking
that
we
talk
with
the
two
other
agencies
that
we're
familiar
with,
which
would
be
the
friends
and
which
would
be
the
foundation.
Look
at
how
the
foundation
is
investing
their
money.
If
they're
getting
a
good
return,
we'll
say:
hey,
listen,
we'll
give
you
half
a
million
dollars,
we'll
give
it
to
you
for
three
years,
because
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
be
building
anything
within
three
years,
but
it'd
be
nice.
If
we
were
and
say,
hey,
here's
a
half
a
million
dollars.
F
We
like
how
you're
investing
your
money
so
give
us,
take
our
money
and
invest
it
the
same
way.
We
could
do
the
same
thing
with
friends,
because
I
think
the
friends
are
going
to
go
in
a
different
direction
than
the
foundation
is.
We
can
give
them
a
half
a
million
dollars
and
say:
hey.
You
have
this
for
three
years
at
the
end
of
the
three
years,
give
us
our
return.
F
F
And
that
would
follow
the
attorney's
suggestions.
C
E
C
F
We're
not
telling
it
we're.
Looking
at
what
they're
already
doing
juanita's
we
can
talk
to
the
foundation
say.
How
are
you
investing
your
money
and
if
we
like
that,
then
we
can
invest
with
them.
We're
not
telling
them
to
do
anything
different,
but
we're
saying
we
want
to
be
a
part
of
what
you're
doing
and
we
can
do
the
same
thing
with
mizell.
F
C
F
C
F
C
So
we
give
them
over
part
of
our
money,
for,
like
you
said,
let's
say
three
years
at
the
end
of
those
three
years,
we
have
some
kind
of
a
contract
with
them
that
says
at
the
end
of
those
three
years,
we
want
our
money
back,
plus,
whatever
you
have
earned
from
it,
whatever
that
is
whatever
that
number
that
is,
and
and
that's
it
we
don't
and
and
they're,
and
they
and
we
have
no
other
say
in
the
matter
right
I
mean
it's
just
whatever.
E
D
Well,
you
you
can't,
but
you
and
you
can't
ask
for
the
earnings
either
if
you
give
them
a
three-year
loan.
You
sign
a
promissory
note
and
that's
all
that
you
expect
back
from
them
if
they
have
other
money
and
they
want
to
just
give
it
that's
great,
but
it's
not
a
requirement.
D
D
D
B
Right,
okay,
but
okay
and
now
you've
really
confused
me,
so
we
give
them
a
hundred
thousand.
At
the
end
of
three
years,
we
get
back
a
hundred
thousand
no
guarantee
of
any
earnings
whatsoever
on
it.
No,
but
the
earnings
that
they've
generated
all
have
to
go
to
support
the
library
anyways.
What
you're
saying
correct?
Oh
god,
I
I
have
a
hard
time
with
that.
One!
E
But
you
that
you
see
that's
why
I
that's
why
I
feel
like
that
compact
and
I'm
it
could
be
a
different
term
by
the
way,
guys
that
agreement
is
in
place.
That
says
that
the
the
foundation's
money
is
coming
back
to
the
library
and
how
will
it
come
back
to
the
library
so
that
if
we
do
give
them
a
half
a
million
dollars
and
they
turn
that
into
650
000,
then
we
know
that
that
extra
150
000
is
coming
back
to
the
library.
E
D
D
Investing
is
a
gamble,
as
you
all
know,
it's
dependent
upon
the
economy
and
how
how
the
investment's
done,
but.
E
Well,
that
could
happen
with
the
city.
The
city
could
lose
the
money.
E
E
E
Maybe
what
we
need
to
do
is
to
invite
the
library
foundation
to
now
give
us
their
annual
report
on
what
they've
achieved
over
the
last
year.
It's
time
for
that
report
anyway,
it
comes
to
us
in
april
normally
and
asked
them
to
focus
on
giving
us
a
report
on
how
they've
decided
to
invest
their
money
for
the
library
long
term
and
how
it's
going
to
come
back
to
the
library
and
based
on
that
conversation.
E
E
I
don't
think
that
we
should
just
write
them
a
check
because
they're
the
foundation
any
more
than
I'd,
write
a
check
to
the
friends
and-
and
we
trust
both
of
them-
I'm
not
saying
that
they
would
do
anything
other
than
the
right
thing,
but
I
think
that
it's
our
obligation
to
hear
from
them
you
know
what's
going
on
and
what
they
would
do
and
how
they
would
treat
it
and
what
their
goals
are
and
by
the
way
I've
said
all
along
it's
our
foundation
by
meaning
that
it's
our
we
created
that
foundation.
E
This
board
created
that
foundation.
To
do
just
this,
we
can't
forget
that
you
know
it
wasn't
something
that
was
just
out
of
the
air.
We
gave
them
the
money
to
start.
So
I
think
that
we
knew
eventually
we
would
be
giving
them
money
anyway
for
the
for
the
library
project.
We
just
hope
that
we
can
make
some
money
somewhere
else
too
right
to
make
us
feel
better.
But
I
guess
that's
not
going
to
happen
right
genie.
D
E
That's
the
way
it
should
be
really
it
should
be
now.
I
think
that
the
trust
fund
in
my
mind
and-
and
you
guys
pretty
soon-
my
opinion
won't
count
here,
but
I
think
there
should
always
be
something
in
the
trust
fund
for
the
library
to
draw
on,
in
case
of
an
emergency,
or
in
case
they
needed
something
whatever
that
amount
might
be
would
be
decided
by
this
board,
and
then
I
think
the
rest
of
it
should
go
to
the
new
building.
E
I
mean,
I
think,
that
the
people
who
gave
that
money-
that's
what
they
would
want
the
money
to
go
for
right,
and
I
think
this
board
has
eventually
got
to
resurrect.
E
How
can
we
replenish
some
of
that
money
in
some
way
right
or
or
we
relinquish
that
duty
to
the
foundation
as
our
on
our
behalf
to
get
out
there
and
ask
for
bequest
and
ask
for
money
to
leave
the
library
to
come
to
the
foundation?
To
me,
that's
been
missing
for
a
long
time.
C
C
I
was
just
going
to
say:
we
need
to
talk
to
the
foundation,
we
need
to
find
out
about
how
they're
investing
their
money
and
then
we
need
to
have
a
really
honest
conversation
with
them
about
how
you
know
what
our
purpose
is.
What's
what
is
the
purpose?
Why
are
we
loaning
them
this
money?
Why
are
you
know
and
and
just
be
very
straightforward
about
what
our
end
goal
is
in
this
and
and
go
from
there
once
we
have
that
information,
then
we
can
make
a
more
informed
decision.
E
And
I
think
that
what
I
I
really
believe
we
have
to
trust,
because
I'm
in
these
meetings
they
have,
they
have
they've
hired
professional,
fundraising
library
professionals
to
advise
them.
So
if
they
come
to
us
and
say
that
we're
raising
the
money
to
for
blah
for
to
to
benefit
the
library
in
this
way,
then
we
we
have
to
trust
that
they
have
consulted
with
professionals
and
it's
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
right.
E
We
agree
with
that
plan
and
we
feel
good
about
giving
them
money
whether
we
loan
it
or
we
give
that
money
to
them
because,
as
we
know,
once
it's
in
their
bank
account,
as
jenny
has
pointed
out,
they're
gonna,
if
the
fundraisers
say
you
need
to
go
out
and
throw
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
party
to
raise
a
half
a
million
dollars,
we
all
got
to
be
okay
with
that.
You
know
by
the
way
we'll
be
at
that
party
right,
but
I
mean
it's
it's
really.
E
B
No,
I
agree
with
juanita.
Actually
she
was
going
where
I
was
going.
B
E
E
These
are
citizens
like
us
who
have
volunteered
to
help
us
the
the
talent
that
they
have
acquired
on
that
board
when
it
comes
around
to
you,
know,
financial
investment
and
and
how
they
they're
dealing
with
their
money
and
their
success,
and
what
they've
invested
in
to
help
them
raise
money.
We
should
hear
about
that
and
we
should
hear
from
the
board
members
that
are
doing
that,
so
I'm
going
to
insist
that
they
bring
them
and
talk
to
us
about
it.
E
So
you
guys
can
know
them
because
I'm
impressed,
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
people
giving
their
time
to
make
that
group
successful,
and
I
think
we
need
to
know
who
they
are
so.
E
Okay,
any
other
thoughts
on
this
and
I
will
I'll
follow
up
with
I'm.
I'm
very
disappointed
that
I
thought
we
were
on
our
way
and
I
thought
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
do
this.
I
I'm
quite
and
jeannie
will
tell
you.
I
was
very
disappointed
to
hear
this
news,
but
I
we've
been:
we've
been
given
lemons
a
lot
of
times
and
we've
made
lemonade
we're
going
to
do
it
again,
we're
not
going
to
let
this
get
us
down
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
this
building
occurs
and
this
program
keeps
going.
You
know.
E
So,
as
I
told
some
people
at
the
giant,
I
might
be
in
a
wheelchair
when
you
cut
the
damn
ribbon
for
this
building,
but
I'm
gonna
be
there
by
god.
I
am
determined
and
it
was
linda,
feuderer
she's,
a
fellow
trustee.
She
was
a
trustee.
We
both
said
we
might
be
in
wheelchairs
and
you
guys
better.
Let
us
at
least
cut
a
little
bit
of
that
rib
before
we
go
to
sleep
in
that
wheelchair,
but
I'm
going
to
be
there
by
god,
but
I
I
will.
E
I
want
to
see
that
building
all
right,
any
any
closing
remarks
about
this
topic.
E
Tomorrow
and
find
out
how
soon
they
can
come
before
us,
maybe
next
month
time
is
of
the
essence.
I
think
they
want
to
put
that
request
to
us
to
modify
the
terms
of
their
loan
and
they
want
to
do
it
while
I'm
still
around,
because
I'm
again
the
historical
memory
here
right,
so
I
will
urge
them
to
get
their
act
together
and
get
before
us
it's
april
right.
So
I
think
they
need
to
be
prepared
for
april.
C
E
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you
guys
for
this
discussion.
As
always,
and
thanks
for
your
input
and
and
your
commitment
item
number
seven
is
trustee
staff
comments
future
agenda
items.
I
think
we
just
set
one
right.
Are
there
any
others
that
anybody
might
want
to
talk
about.
E
E
Okay,
everyone.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
will
continue
on
and
if
you
have
thoughts,
please
share
yes,
dr
barbara.
F
D
We
have
we
work
with
a
vendor
on
large
print.
For
the
most
part,
we
subscribe
to
a
variety
of
plans
and
we
get
so
many
per
month
and
they
they
send
us
their.
We
do
like
mystery.
Three.
We
get
three
mysteries
a
month
or
core
collection
there.
There
are
different
ones.
Lisa,
probably
knows
all
the
different
different
ones
that
we
do,
but
we
we
do
get
bestsellers
some
biographies
and
it's
a
subscription.
Really
we
just
we
let
the
the
vendor
used
to
be
thorndike
press.
D
Yeah,
so
they
we
just
let
their
professional
librarians
do
the
collection
development
for
us
and
we
pay
them,
but
we're
looking
for
donations.
If
anybody
would
like
to
supplement
that
budget,
because
the
friends
of
the
library,
I
think
pay
for
that
one
and
or
have
in
the
past-
and
it
can
always
use
new
stuff.
D
A
D
F
D
You
can
always
make
suggestions,
we
are
oh,
we
got
a
grant.
D
I
forgot
to
tell
you
this:
we
got
a
10
000,
zip
books,
grant
and
we'll
be
working
on
promoting
that
as
soon
as
everything's
set
up,
but
it's
a
it's
an
alternative
to
interlibrary
loan
and
instead
of
paying
us
a
five
dollar
fee
for
us
to
do
a
nationwide
search
where
another
library
mails
us
a
book,
we
would
be
able
to
buy
it
through
amazon
and
have
it
shipped
directly
to
your
house
and
then,
when
you
finish
reading
book,
then
we
would
you
bring
it
back
to
the
library
we
added
to
the
collection,
so
10
000
from
the
california
state
library,
for
that.
D
E
I
sold
that
too.
Okay,
anything
else,
guys
all
right
so
we'd
like
to
adjourn
the
meeting
of
the
palm
springs
public
library
board
of
trustees.
I
have
the
time
at
704.
Our
next
meeting
genie
will
be.