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From YouTube: Measure J Commission | Sep 21 2022
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Meeting of the Palm Springs Measure J Oversight Commission, held September 21st, 2022
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public
comment
this
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
measure,
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Commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission.
Although
the
commission
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
are
assigned
for
each
speaker.
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There
are
there
any
Target
size
like
per
commission
at
least
I
know,
there's
like
a
general
parameters
for
all
commissions,
I
think
it
was
like
five
to
nine
or
something
but
I
didn't
know
of,
like
certain
commissions
they
were
thinking
of
like
this
would
be
good
as
a
five.
This
would
be
good
as
a
seven
dollar.
Nine.
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Perfect,
you
should
have
had
the
summary
of
measure
jsons
in
your
packet
and
we're
near
well,
we
we're
done
with
the
year
end.
We
just
have
to
wait
for
the
Auditors
to
come
and
audit,
but
our
we
are
approximately
one
million
dollars
over
our
estimated
2122.
The
estimate
was
19
million
and
we're
coming
in
at
20
million
wow.
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
know,
though,
is
a
sales.
Taxes
are
collected
two
months
behind
so
as
I
was
comparing
Cash
basis
for
July
and
August.
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It's
back
to
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Can
it's
back
to
2019,
July
and
August
were
significantly
down,
but
it
looks
like
it
will
come
back
up
for
September
to
the
rest
of
the
year.
Tot
was
down
like
20
or
30
percent,
and
vacation
rentals
were
down
like
70
percent,
but
that
was
basically
because
you
don't
usually
get
a
lot
of
vacation
rentals
in
July
and
August,
but
the
last
two
years
we've
had
a
lot
yeah.
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I'm
pretty
sure
that
was
for
something
for
police
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
instead
of
paying
it
out
of
two
different
funds,
always
for
the
Police
radios.
So
instead
of
having
the
department
police
department,
most
of
it's
coming
out
of
the
capital
project
fund
and
you
guys
contributed
2
million.
So
instead
of
I'll
make
a
note
on
that
for
the
next
meeting
or
the
next
report
I
send
out.
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Correct
I
think,
let
me
see
if
I
can
find
something
on
my
computer
I
think
we
think
we'd
have
a
little
bit
more.
What
happened
was
for
two
items,
so
we're
gonna
have
a
little
bit
even
left
over
from
there,
but
let
me
try
to
pull
that
up
real
quickly.
It'll.
Take
me
just
a
minute
and
I
Joelle
has
that
sheet:
I
shared
with
him,
I,
don't
know
if
he
can
share
his
screen
with
you.
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Yeah
I
think
that'd
also
be
really
helpful,
especially
as
we're
thinking
around
kind
of
like
inflation
costs.
You
know
increased
supplies,
it'll
Force
us
to
kind
of
re,
be
very
realistic.
With
some
of
our
recommendations
about
how
much
we
can
actually
do
so
great
any
other
questions
for
Nancy
on
the
budget.
I
Really
important,
maybe
we
can
maybe
have
a
more
robust
conversation
around
the
draft
roadmap,
and
then
we
can
identify
some
questions
that
we
might
have
for
Council
as
we
try
to
develop
that
roadmap.
I
think
the
allocation
is
important,
the
different
categories,
because
that
might
actually
Define
when
we're
having
certain
conversations
so.
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And
on
that
request,
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I
know
that
Council
was
also
very
much
in
agreeance
on
simplifying
simplifying
measure
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which
might
be
good.
If,
through
attrition
we
lose
Commissioners,
it
might
make
life
a
little
easier
for
staff
that
measure
J
dollars
just
get
compiled
into
badly
needed
buckets.
I
know
one
of
them
was
parks,
and
that
may
be
just
every
year:
five
million
dollars
or
six
million
dollars,
no
matter
what
goes
to
park
projects
and
also
to
Rhodes
I,
don't
know
they
brought
up.
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They
had
some
ideas
and
we
were
definitely
very
amenable
to
that,
because
the
public
I
think
spoke
very
loud
and
clear
that
you
know
we
need
to
catch
up
a
bit
when
it
comes
to
public
services
in
this
city
compared
to
to
other
cities
in
the
valley,
so
Parts
being
obviously
a
big
one
and
I
think
I.
Think
that
makes
sense,
maybe
moving
forward
again.
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Yeah
I
would
also
say
it's
an
easier
thing
to
communicate
process
wise
to
the
public
which
I
know.
There
was
a
lot
of
confusion,
especially
with
this
revamp
Community
projects,
efforts
that
we
had
last
year
so
I
recognize
that's
a
lot
to
ask
for
cancer
to
decide,
but
you
know
if
they
can
kind
of
say,
definitely
leaning
this
way
or
you
know
any
other
direction.
So
that
way,
the
spring
just
gets
really
busy
trying
to
make
our
budget
recommendations.
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So
any
conversations
we
can
have
in
the
fall
is
really
really
helpful
for
us.
We'll
take
a
look
at
that.
Okay,
great!
Thank
you!
Okay!
So
next
on
the
agenda,
we
have
the
discussion
with
Jane
Garrison,
thank
you
for
being
here
for
the
Austin
Land
Trust
proposal
for
Community
initiative
projects,
which
is
Right
In
theme
with
what
we're.
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We
are
based
in
Palm
Springs
and
we
work
on
putting
beautiful,
open
space
into
conservation,
not
only
for
us
but
for
future
Generations,
we've
done
quite
a
bit
in
the
several
years
since
we
got
started,
our
our
founding
project
was
oswick
Canyon,
hence
the
name
oswit
land
trust,
and
we
we
work
very
hard
for
almost
five
years
to
actually
get
that
114
acres
into
conservation,
and
that
was
our
Flagship
project.
Since
that
time
we
then
worked,
and
we
just
this.
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Past
year
we
got
the
Palm
Hills
property,
which
is
a
goat
Trails
above
the
Vons
Rimrock
shopping
center.
So
many
people
didn't
realize
that
that
area
was
still
open
for
development,
and
that
was
almost
4000
in
acres
and
we're
very
very
proud
of
that.
It's
something
that
agencies
and
governmental
departments
wanted
to
get
into
conservation
for
almost
30
years,
and
it
was
the
largest
land
acquisition
for
conservation
in
the
history
of
the
Coachella
Valley.
So
we're
thrilled
about
that
and
then
two
other
projects
this
year.
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Future
Generations
can
actually
enjoy
nature,
regardless
of
your
age
and
regardless
of
your
Fitness
ability,
because
we
do
recognize
that
a
lot
of
the
properties
that
get
into
conservation
you
have
to
be
in
pretty
darn
good
shape
to
get
to
the
top
of
the
property
behind
bonds
shopping
center.
So
this
will
be
a
really
wonderful
place
for
the
community.
We
also
bought
in
the
purchase
a
41
4,
4
100
square
foot
Maintenance
building,
but
when
we
walked
into
the
maintenance,
building,
I
immediately
thought
all
right.
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So
our
original
Grant
application
with
the
measure
day
commission,
was
for
planting
300
trees
to
create
a
two-mile
walking
Loop
that
had
shade
along
Riverside
Drive,
just
to
remind
everyone,
and
that
was
I,
believe
put
on
hold
because
of
the
CV
link
and
not
knowing
really
what
the
Landscaping
was
going
to
be
along
Riverside
Drive
once
the
CB
link
starts
the
construction,
but
it's
no
doubt
that
we
need
trees
at
the
Prescott
preserve.
So
we
actually
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
our
timeline.
K
We
applied
for
a
planning
Grant
with
Coachella
Valley
mountains
conservancy,
and
some
of
you
may
know
that
the
board
of
directors
for
the
Coachella
Valley
mountains
Conservancy,
is
made
up
of
leaders
throughout
the
state.
It
includes
one
city
council,
member
from
all
nine
cities.
It
includes
supervisor
Manny
Perez,
someone
from
the
wildlife
conservation
board.
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You
you
USC
and
that
board
just
this
past
week,
loaded
unanimously
to
approve
our
planning
Grant
and
that
163
thousand
dollars
enables
us
that
we
have
now
hired
a
restoration
and
Landscape
Architecture
Firm
and
in
the
next
four
months
they
will
come
up
with
all
the
schematics.
The
construction
plans
the
cost,
and
then
we
take
all
of
that
in
January
to
the
state
and
that's
where
we
ask
for
our
Millions
to
actually
do
the
Nature
Preserve.
K
But
in
the
meantime
we
had
the
idea
that
if
we
could
take
our
Grant
application
for
the
300
trees
and
move
it
to
the
Prescott
preserve,
it
actually
is
a
benefit
for
so
many
first
and
foremost
I
would
love
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
to
be
the
first
grant
that
we
receive
for
any
plant
or
any
tree.
I
just
think
it's.
It
says
a
lot.
It's
a
big
statement
that
the
city
will
be
the
first
one
to
put
a
tree
in
the
ground
there.
K
It
also
allows
us
to
actually
start
planting
before
we
get
our
big
grants
because,
as
it
sits
now,
we
won't
actually
be
able
to
do
any
of
the
planting
of
trees
and
plants
and
pollinators
and
butterfly
gardens.
We
won't
be
able
to
do
any
of
that
for
a
year,
because
we
have
to
go
through
all
the
planning
and
then
the
grant
process,
and
then
hopefully,
by
fall
of
next
year,
we'll
be
able
to
plan.
But
if
we
can
reallocate
the
300
trees,
we
can
actually
start
putting
them
in
the
ground
at
Prescott
Preserve
pretty
soon.
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I
have
a
couple
of
headline
questions
and
and
also
a
headline
reaction.
My
headline
reaction
first
is
the
Riverside
project,
at
least
in
my
mind.
The
Riverside
project
is
still
a
viable
project,
subject
to
more
weeks
round
rounding
out
edges
of
expertise
and
stakeholders
right,
but
that's
a
good
project
I
liked
I
liked
hearing
it
the
first
time
and
I
still
like
it
so
would
that
sit
with
that
said,
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
need
to
necessarily
swap
out
one
for
the
other
since
we're
hearing
about
two
viable
and
laudable
requests.
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K
Great
great
questions
and
I
have
to
say:
I
love
the
Riverside
project.
I
still
love
the
Riverside
project.
We
would
be
happy
to
do
both
of
those
projects.
We
don't
need
any
assistance
from
the
city
other
than
the
funding
from
the
measure
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If
we
were
able
to
get
that,
we
would
still.
We
would
love
to
move
that
one
forward
I
think
it's
a
a
great
one.
Also
the
timing
for
Prescott
preserve.
We
could.
K
We
could
get
started
really
quickly
because
we've
already
hired
LSA,
who
some
of
you
may
know,
they're
very
well
known,
Restoration
company,
we've
already
hired
them.
We
already
hired
Brightview,
who
is
our
landscape
Architecture
Firm?
So
if
we
were
fortunate
enough
to
receive
the
funding
for
the
300
trees
for
Prescott
preserve,
we
would
immediately
engage
with
them
and
say:
okay,
we'll
start
putting
these
now.
K
As
far
as
the
funding
from
the
state,
we
are
incredibly
confident
that
we
are
going
to
get
the
funding
from
the
estate
to
actually
do
the
restoration
and
I'll
tell
you
a
little
bit
why
the
first
planning
Grant
from
Coachella
Valley,
Mountain
Conservancy-
that
is
a
state
agency.
So
a
lot
of
people
don't
realize
that
that,
but
that
is
a
state
agency
and
they
have
a
representative
at
that
meeting
from
Wildlife
Conservation
board.
Wildlife
Conservation
board
is
who
we
are
going
to
be
applying
to
for
our
big
restoration
Grant.
K
The
good
thing
for
us
is
that
there's
an
enormous
Surplus
in
the
state
in
restoration
dollars,
I
will
tell
you
most
land
trusts.
They
don't
want
to
do
restoration.
It's
a
lot
of
work.
It's
a
lot
of
coordinating,
it's
being
very
strategic.
It's
bringing
in
the
all
the
good
players!
We
love
it
because
we
love
bringing
the
community
together
and
that's
why
we're
working
with
Master,
Gardeners
and
UCR,
so
we're
confident
we're
going
to
get
it
because
the
Surplus
and
we
are
already
engaging
with
them
so
and
they're
telling
us
come
in
big.
K
You
know
bring
us
all
your
ideas.
You
know
everything
that
you
want
to
see
and
that's
why
we're
working
with
Desert
Water
Agency,
because
I
think
it
would
be
amazing
to
add
more
ponds
to
that
nature.
Preserve
we
already
get
some
incredible
migratory
Birds
there.
We
actually
started
having
bird
counts
and
research
from
the
day
we
closed
they're,
doing
it
every
other
Thursday.
It
happened
this
morning
again
there
are
up
to
39
species
of
birds
on
an
old
golf
course.
K
So
we
know
that
if
we
enhance
the
ponds,
enhance
the
vegetation
we're
going
to
get
even
more
so
we're
going
to
ask
for
everything
in
it
pollinator
Gardens,
butterfly
gardens.
We
want
to
do
a
Memorial,
Forest,
definitely
ponds
walking
trails
down
the
road.
It
would
be
great
to
have
some
shade
structures,
and
this
is
really
going
to
be.
You
know
you
talk
about
Central
Park.
We
see
this
as
a
central
Preserve
in
Palm
Springs,
there's,
nothing
like
it,
and
it's
going
to
be.
K
We've
been
talking
with
tourism,
individuals
and
committees,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
really
popular
place.
It
is
already
we
can't
believe
how
many
people
come
out
already
and
say:
I
just
want
to
walk
it.
I
want
to
see
I
want
to
like
catch
on
to
the
vision
and
if
I
would
invite
all
of
you
to
go
and
it's
open
to
the
public,
it
will
always
be
open
to
the
public
and
go
and
walk
and
join
us
in
imagining
what
it
was
going
to
be.
I
One
thing
that
we
ask
both
City
departments
and
other
projects
that
came
to
us
sometimes
was
like
how
does
this
fit
within
like
a
master
plan?
How
does
this
fit
with
like
a
bigger
Vision?
So
can
you
speak
to
a
little
bit
about
how
getting
these
funds
for
these,
like
specific
amount
of
trees,
to
kind
of
hold
you
until
you're
able
to
do
the
full
Master
planning?
Is
it
really
like
in
conflict
that
it
helps
get
you
there
and
it's
not
necessarily
like
Investments
we're
doing
in
The
Preserve?
I
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K
Conservancy
couldn't
believe
that
we
applied
for
our
planning
Grant
two
weeks
after
we
owned
the
property
so
and
that's
a
lot
of
work,
but
we
want
to
move
quickly
because
the
community
is
really
excited
about
it,
and
so
are
we
and
we
want
to
keep
the
momentum
going,
and
we
feel
that
if
we
can
start
planting
now,
it's
going
to
be
within
the
master
plan,
because
we
would
rely
on
LSA
and
Brightview
who
we've
hired.
We
won't
just
say:
oh
let's
just
you
know,
throw
a
tree
here
and
put
a
tree.
K
The
other
thing
is,
it
really
shows
it
will
show
when
we
go
for
our
state
Grant.
It
really
shows
the
city's
commitment
to
this
project
as
well,
and
that
comes
up
a
lot
we've.
We
were
awarded
a
four
million
dollar
grant
for
Belair
greens
and
when
we
did
the
virtual
presentation,
Christy
holstedge
was
mayor
at
the
time
and
she
came
on
the
virtual
meeting.
K
The
virtual
site
visits
what
they
call
with
the
state,
because
it's
important
with
these
grants
that
they
see
that
there's
Community
buy-in
and
they
see
that,
and
so
it
will
speak
volumes
when
we
when
we
actually
apply
because
they
do
ask
us
they
ask
what
is
osmet
land
trust.
What
is
our
contribution?
Well
for
us
on
this
one?
It's
like
the
property,
so
that's
a
huge
contribution,
but
they
also
they
want
a
planning
Grant,
and
that
is
why
we
do
a
planning
Grant.
K
Not
only
so
it's
done
right,
but
the
state
wants
to
see
that
they
want
to
see
that
we
did
a
planning,
Grant
and
they'll
want
it
they're
going
to
ask.
How
does
the
city
feel
about
this
and
not
just
the
residents?
But
how
does
the
city
feel
the
commission,
the
council,
the
city
government,
and
so
when
we
say
well,
actually
we
planted
300
trees
or
we
planted
300
pollinators
thanks
to
a
grant
from
our
measure
J,
which
comes
from
the
community
itself
with
the
money
they
spend
it
just.
K
It
says
a
lot
for
the
grants
and
we've
gotten
we've
gotten
very
good
at
Grant
work.
We
we've
been
approved
for
20
million
dollars
in
Grants,
which
is
pretty
remarkable
for
a
new
land
trust
and
the
fact
that
we
operate
on
such
a
small
budget.
So
we
know
what
what
they
like
and
they
would
like
that.
A
lot.
I
C
K
Oh
well,
the
sky's,
the
limit
you
know,
I
came
into
the
meeting.
I
know
that
we
can
do
300..
We
we,
when
we
originally
did
our
grant
for
Riverside.
We
had
figured
out
that
we
could
do
300
plants
or
trees
and
and
fix
the
irrigation
on
them,
get
them
in
the
ground
for
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
So
you
know
that
so
that,
basically,
that
number
fits
300
trees.
K
A
So
I
think
they're
they're,
just
to
clarify
for
the
Commissioners.
The
idea
was
that
this
isn't
like
a
whole
new
Community
project,
because
that
wouldn't
really
be
fair
to
other
people.
The
point
was
that
this
was
a
project
of
planting
trees
that
we
all
liked
and
do
this
in
another
location
that
we
couldn't
do
because
of
the
CV
link,
and
so
the
request
now
is
to
take
that
existing
Community
project
that
we
all
liked
and
move
it
to
the
new
location.
A
Whether
or
not
we
agree
to
that
or
not,
but
I
think
we
in
the
interest
of
fairness
to
people
who
did
not.
We
should
not,
since
we
didn't
open
this
up
to
everybody,
to
submit
a
new
community
project,
this
should
be
a
unique
one.
That
is
really
a
transfer
given
a
change
in
circumstances
that
just
happened,
which
I
don't
think
really
would
any
other
any
other
proposal
would
fall
into
this
category.
I
think.
K
We,
if
it's
her,
which
would
be
incredibly
grateful
for
I,
will
give
our
commitment
to
coming
back
with
the
Riverside
proposal.
If
we
could,
because
I
agree,
I
still
think
it's
a
very
important
project.
Riverside
Drive
could
be
amazing.
It
could
be
absolutely
amazing,
and
the
great
thing
is
now
on
the
other
side
of
Sunrise,
we
own
the
property,
and
so
it
creates
an
even
larger
than
the
two
mile
Loop
of
walking
trail.
The
other
thing
is
we're.
C
C
K
You
know
I
I
got
a
I
just
want
to
tell
you
real,
quick
I've
received
a
an
email
yesterday
from
a
high
school
teacher,
and
he
said
we
have
25
kids,
who
want
to
be
involved
in
Prescott
preserve,
and
can
we
come
out
and
map
every
tree?
That's
on
the
property
and
I
just
love
that
I
love
like
that.
These
kids
want
to
get
out
there
and
they
want
to
map
all
the
trees
and
they
just
like
the
skill,
they're
learning
so
I'm
like
yes,
absolutely.
This
is
a.
This
is
a
community
space.
E
I
I'm,
listening
to
your
comment,
chairs
Soto
about
the
Integrity
of
the
work
we
put
in
last
year
and
the
process
that,
when
followed
but
also
Brian
comments
about
the
Integrity
of
your
pro
project,
can
we
not
continue
with
the
Riverside
tree
as
is,
and
then
you
submit
this
project
for
this
year?
It
will
be
quickly,
we
will
be
reviewing
these
and
then
I
think
it
makes
it
a
cleaner
project.
All
the
way
around.
I
I
mean
I,
guess
the
question
to
the
commission
then,
would
be
before
we
kind
of
reviewed
all
of
our
applications
and
interests
for
Community,
initiated
projects
and
then
made
a
mass
like
decision
decision
in
math
about
what
what
the
recommendations
from
the
commission
would
be.
We
didn't,
we
haven't
ever
done
it
kind
of
like
on
a
rolling
basis
right,
so
that
would
be
the
distinction.
H
Well,
I
mean
I
think
what's
appropriate
is
when
the
public
has
a
request
from
measure
J.
They
come
to
us
and
speak
in
public
comment
like
we've
had
members
of
the
public
that
have
done
this
in
the
past,
whether
it's
a
public
safety
issue
or
whether
it's
an
improvement
I
mean
the
ship
is
sailed
on
this.
We
as
a
commission
voted
on
our
community
projects.
Jane
I
love
your
cause,
I've
donated
to
your
cause.
H
So
you've
got
my
attention
big
time,
and
you
have
my
support.
However,
based
on
how
this
commission
operates
and
we've
been
under
a
bit
of
a
microscope,
I
I.
Don't
think
this
is
quite
fair
right
now,
I
think
it's
a
super
good
cause,
but
we
did
pass
on
the
Riverside
project,
mainly
because
of
the
CB
link
issue,
but
I
feel
this
ship
has
sailed
for
this
fiscal
year.
We
definitely
I
feel
that
this
should
be
on
the
list
for
next
year
for
Community
projects.
H
I
think
it
would
get
a
lot
of
support,
but
I
think
we
have
to
be
fair.
I
mean
what's
to
keep
someone
who
applied
in
the
spring
to
come
back
to
us
and
say:
hey:
we've
changed
our
mind
or
something's
altered
on
our
requests,
but
now
we
would
like
the
money
spent
on
this
building,
even
though
we
wanted
a
BMX
dirt
dirt
bike
trail,
but
now
put
it
to
this
and
yeah.
That's
a
great
cause.
H
H
I
realize
there's
a
little.
This
has
a
little
Nuance,
it's
a
little
different,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
can
Backtrack
on
what
we
voted.
We
have
to
keep
the
Integrity
of
of
the
process
that
we
put
out
there
to
the
public
when
we
did
that
and
again
you
know
it
was
definitely
scrutinized
and
looked
at
and
I
don't
know.
That's
my
two
cents
again,
I
really
firmly
believe
in
this
project
and
I'm
huge
on
trees.
D
H
D
A
The
other
thing
we
have
just
you
know,
since
we
have
that
1.4
million
in
parks
that
we're
going
to
relate
to
the
parks
director
is,
you
know,
that's
that's
not
been
spent
yet
that
that
is
open
and
we
did
decide
to
do
that.
I,
don't
know
if
this
would
fall
into
it
or
not,
but
it's
another
consideration.
C
A
I
Right-
and
this
kind
of
makes
me
feel
like
the
urgency
of
the
direction
from
Council
about
how
much
extra
Community
it's
just
hard
to
change
our
process
without
having
kind
of
the
overall
new
availability
kind
of
decided
and
and
told
to
us
before
we
get
too
much.
I
did
have
one
more
question
about
to
Jane
around
just
potential
delays
or
or
the
project
itself.
I
I
haven't
been
I've,
just
read
what
I've
seen
on
the
news,
but
is
there
any
potential
where
the
HOA
concerns
and
litigation
could
potentially
delay
any
of
this,
and
would
then
that
mean
that,
like
we're?
Actually
the
timeline
for
applying
for
this
year's
Community
initiative
projects
would
not
be
a
burden.
No.
K
Not
at
all
we're
not
concerned
about
the
lawsuit
one
bit
and
actually
it
was
brought
up
with
we
don't
like
it.
Let
me
let
me
you
know
obviously
say
we
don't
like
it.
It
was
brought
up
at
the
vote
from
the
Coachella
Valley
mountains
conservancy,
and
they
you
know
they
brought
it
up.
They
discussed
it
and
they
agreed
unanimously
as
a
board
that
it's
a
frivolous
lawsuit.
It's
not
going
anywhere.
K
You
can't
and
force
someone
to
run
a
golf
course
on
a
piece
of
property,
and
so
and
we
are
in
communication,
the
residents
of
that
Community
have
reached
out
to
us.
The
president
of
their
board
of
directors
resigned
over
it.
There's
now
special
meetings
happening
within
that
Community.
It's
caused
a
lot
of
problems
within
the
community
because
the
residents
did
not
know
in
their
600
residents
in
Mesquite,
Country
Club,
who
did
not
know
about
that
lawsuit.
Only
the
four
well.
The
five
board
members
which
is
now
is
four.
D
I
K
Can
I
can
I
interject
something
real,
quick
yeah,
so
our
our
grant
application,
just
something
to
think
about?
Was
a
hundred
percent
focused
on
the
importance
of
trees
and
the
importance
of
shade
and
the
importance
of
climate
change?
If
you,
if
you
remember
it,
was
so
focused
on
that
and
when
we
were
writing
the
application,
we
were
originally
just
going
to
say
300
trees,
and
then
we
decide
where
we're
going
to
put
them
somewhere
within
the
community.
If
you
were
to
reread
the
Grant
application.
K
So
much
of
that
talks
about
that,
the
importance
of
you
know
Carbon
sinks
as
a
trees,
how
they
do
you
know
stuck
in
the
carbon
and
the
importance
of
climate
rising
and
the
shade
of
that
it
provides
so
I,
don't
know
if
that
helps
at
all
that
you
know.
Riverside
Drive
was
yes,
of
course,
that
was
the
location,
but
the
focus
of
the
grant
was
the
importance
of
300
trees
getting
planted
in
the
ground
in
our
community.
If
that
helps
you
at
all,
because.
I
Very
supportive
I
actually
really
live
really
close
to
The,
Preserve
and
I'm,
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
it
develop
and
it
was
during
in
2020
when
people
were
just
like
play
in
the
like
walk
along
the
golf
course
and
like
throw
the
frisbee,
it
was
just
like
the
most
Earnest
thing,
I
I
I've,
experienced
in
the
city,
I
think
but
I
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
make
a
recommendation
at
this
meeting
is
my
general
consensus
and
unless
there's
a
motion,
someone
wants
us
to
consider.
But
I,
don't
I
think
we.
C
C
For
for
the
commission,
so
having
digested
all
the
information
that
we
have
from
Jane
and
the
trust
I'm
still
I'm,
not
of
a
clear
mind
on
the
procedure,
I
might
be
instinctively
under
understating,
for
my
own
benefit,
understating
the
rigidity
of
a
procedure
of
how
to
use
available
measure,
J
funds,
mid-year,
so
I'm,
looking
at
available
availability
of
resources
that
we
have
been
trying
for
literally
for
years
to
put
into
put
into
service
and
the
process
as
much
as
anything.
The
process
is
preventing
us
from
putting
dollars
into
service.
A
I
Yeah
yeah
I
guess
the
question
by
sure
Robin
would
be
we
we
intentionally
set
out
a
procedure
for
Community
initiated
projects
which
is
just
a
small
portion
of
our
budget,
and
then
there
are
the
other
remaining
funding
bucket
of
measure.
J
funds
and
I
think
that
bucket.
If
we
wanted
to
have
a
conversation
of
it
coming
from
there,
then
there's
a
there
is
a
lot
more
flexibility
in
terms
of
when
we
make
those
recommendations
and
moving
it
outside,
like
it
could
be
done
on
a
faster
timeline.
I
I
think
the
difference
is
those
Parks
and
Rec
projects
that
would
come
up
or
some
any
other
project
that
would
come
up
would
likely
not
be
coming
from
Community
initiated
projects
in
that
same
way,
but
because
this
application
came
to
us
as
a
community
initiative
project,
it's
kind
of
it's
from
a
very
specific
budget
or
a
bucket
of
measure,
J
funds
rather
than
the
overall.
You
know
anybody
does
that
make
sense
to
everybody.
Does
that
I.
J
E
Yeah
I
think
we've
had
a
great
discussion
on
this
and
it's
certainly
supportive
of
this
project,
but
it
is
again
back
to
our
process
and
what
I
brought
up
to
talk
on
the
agenda
is
Joelle
had
made
a
comment
before
we
all
left
that
there's
so
much
in
the
pipeline,
and
it's
stuck
there,
because
we
we're
just
reproducing
the
same
stuff
and
putting
more
big
capital
projects
into
the
pipeline.
Well,
it
seems
to
me
either
our
subcommittee
that
started
this
dog
helped
us
and
and
Craig
and
Miss
Soto.
E
We
need
to
take
a
look
at
what
we're
doing
again
and
maybe
have
different
kinds
of
projects,
so
we're
just
not
shooting
enormously
expensive
projects
that
take
a
lot
of
City
time
and
look
more
at
these
kinds
of
community
projects
and
maybe
float
them
through
differently.
So
I
I
think
it's
before
us,
maybe
to
make
a
better
process
with
what
we
have
to
work
with.
How
do
you
feel
about
that
mistoto?
E
I
I
would
say
we
have
some
work
to
do
for
the
next
couple
months
to
redefine
that
new
structure
before
we
can
make
any
recommendations
and
we
will
be
needing
some
direction
from
Council
as
to
kind
of
allocation
and
those
potential
categories.
All
of
that
will
influence
how
we
are
able
to
kind
of
update
that
process.
K
I
F
E
F
F
How
are
you
going
to
prioritize
all
and
get
you
know
this
long
list
done,
and
so
generally
we
have
a
an
internal
document
where
we
list
all
the
projects,
whether
any
it
comes
from
any
kind
of
fund,
and
then
it's
usually
sorted
by
priorities.
One
two,
three
four,
and
so
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
the
high
priority
One
projects
so
coming
from
measure
J.
That
would
be
like
Plaza
Theater,
pavement
rehab.
F
You
know
stuff
like
that,
and
then
we
go
to
Project
level,
twos
and
then
level
threes
and
how
the
one
two
three
fours
come
about.
Remember
the
the
five-year
CIP
booklet
there's
a
category,
that's
called
project
priority,
and
so
basically
we
put
you
know
some
projects
as
essential
some
projects
as
necessary,
some
projects
as
desirable
and
then
some
projects
as
deferable,
so
I
just
kind
of
use.
F
That
same
thing,
so
if
it
was
essential,
it
was
a
one
if
it
was
necessary,
it
was
two
if
it
was
desirable,
it
was
three
and
then
the
last
one
was
four
so
or
anything
else
was
four,
and
so
basically,
this
is
kind
of
how
we
organize
stuff.
So
so
you'll
see
like
things
like
a
lot
of
things
here.
You
know
we're.
We
haven't
even
touched
it
yet
we're
gonna
start
it
in
quarter
three
or
quarter
four.
F
Just
because
you
know
we
have,
you
know
just
a
limited
number
of
staff
and
then,
as
we
add,
more
staff,
you
know.
Obviously
we
can
reassign
things,
and
this
is
a
pretty
Dynamic
list
that
you
know
if
somebody's
super
overloaded
go
swap
out
project
managers
or
give
more
to
another
project
manager.
If
we
got
a
new
project
manager
in
the
year,
you
know
again
we
can
reallocate
everything,
but
we
just
wanted
to
show
you
that
there's
a
method
to
what
we're
doing
and
then
so.
F
If
these
surprises
come
in
and
say
Hey,
you
know,
let's
build
a
navigation
center
right.
It's
just
like
we
can
easily
say
like
if
we
had
this
since
last
year,
we
could
easily
see
okay,
you
know,
whichever
our
big
projects,
that
we're
working
on
who
has
a
video
ability,
what
things
that
have
to
bump
down
you
know
and
and
because
we
only
have
a
limited
amount
of
bodies,
and
you
know
it's
it's
pretty
easy
to
show.
F
F
Yeah
and
the
committed
Center
staff
is
going
to
run
that
project,
so
they're
going
to
run
the
carpet
replacement
at
the
convention
center,
and
so
so
like
this
is
an
engineering
document,
so
our
staff
time
really
isn't
being
spent
hovering
over
the
convention
center
staff
to
run
that
project.
So
that's
why
there's
no
no
priorities
for
them!
Thank
you.
Just.
A
Following
up
on
commissioner
Craig's
comments:
yeah,
we
should
make
sure
that,
like
a,
we
know,
what's
happening
with
some
of
those
and
that
we
make
sure
that
they
are
identified
and
promoted
as
measured
J
improvements.
You
know,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
one
of
the
big
issues
that
we've
talked
about
in
the
past
year
was
was
promotion
of
measure
J
and
what
the
funds
are
getting
used
for,
and
especially
if
these
are
being
done
by
Third
parties,
and
it
may
actually
be
accomplished
this
year.
I
I
I
F
Yeah,
so
so
these
were
the
Capital
Improvement
numbers,
that's
how
it
sorted
and
then
these
MJ
ones
were
the
things
that
were
passed
in
the
budget.
So
these
are
all
the
community
initiated
projects.
Remember
drainage,
shade
structures,
funds.
So
these
are
all
the
community
initiated
projects
and
then,
whatever
else
like
the
sewer
ladder
was
added
to
the
budget,
so
yeah
so
yeah.
You
know
when
we
we
first
did
it.
D
I
F
Yeah
this
was
just
a
snapshot.
I
mean
it's
already
outdated.
Just
because
you
know
you
have
to
post
your
agenda
ahead
of
time
and
stuff
like
that.
So
but
this
is
just
an
internal
document
like
we're
we're
not
you
know
the
plan
wasn't
to
bring
this
to
you
every
meeting,
it's
just
because
you
know
it
did
take
time
to
like
sort
through
a
reading
to
figure
out.
F
So
it's
it's
definitely
like
a
living
document.
It
changes
every
single
day
and
so
and
it
wasn't
to
create
more
work
where
we
have
to
like
sort
through
this
document
and
create
a
report
for
the
commission.
It
was
more
to
show
you
that
you
know
we
have
everything
tracking
and
then
there
are
some
things
that
we
are
deferring
to,
like
maybe
the
third
quarter
of
the
fiscal
year
or
the
fourth
quarter
of
the
fiscal
year.
You
know
and
it's
it's
because
we
are
prioritizing
other
things
and
then,
when
new
things
surprise
us.
F
We
have
a
method
to
adjust
projects
and
adjust
their
priorities
and
also
when
we
add
new
staff,
we
have
a
method
to
reassign
projects
and
workflow
and
stuff
like
that,
so
that
that
was
just
the
gist
of
showing
you.
This
report
was
that
you
know
it's
and,
and
that
way
you
can
tell
the
story
to
the
community,
that
hey
engineering
isn't
just
you
know
just
doing
it,
because
the
squeaky
wheel
cried
louder
than
my
squeaking
wheel,
because
you
know
we
have
to
make
I
mean
we
we
have.
F
I
Yeah
yeah,
and
just
to
show
it's
like
a
solid
six
to
nine
months
before
some
of
these
projects
get
some
real
stop
time
on
it.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
really
appreciate
it
I
think
it's
really
indicative
of
just
how
complicated
it
is,
keeping
all
these
things
moving
so
and
then
I
want
to
make
sure
we
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
of
our
time
today
discussing
last
thing
on
the
agenda,
discussion
and
completion
of
the
calendar
and
draft
roadmap.
H
H
I
would
just
follow
2019
2020
roadmap.
It's
it's!
What
we've
always
done!
That's
been
the
history
since
I've
been
on
the
commission,
so
January
is
when
we
do
the
measure
J
audit
February,
we
start
well.
Actually
we
can
start
looking
at
capital
projects
already
in
the
fall.
I
think
that's
what
we
kind
of
expanded
that
depth
because
of
wanting
to
discuss
those
projects
and
then
move
towards
what
I
think
is
the
most
important
thing
of
this
commission
is
that
we
always
request
and
have
that
joint
meeting
with
city
council.
A
A
We
did
send,
we
did
send
it
out
to
everybody,
but
some
of
these
things
are
actually
required
in
the
ordinance
like
review
and
Teresa
and
Nancy
should
know
this.
The
audit
review
and
the
the
measure
J
commission
joint
meeting
is
actually
required
in
order
to
adopt
the
budget.
They
don't
have
to
listen
to
us,
but
they
do
have
to
get
that
input
in
May
or
before
they
do
a
budget,
and
the
audit
that
happens
in
January
is
actually
required
to
be
reviewed
in
the
ordinance.
You
know
you
might
look
at
it.
A
H
Yeah
I
agree:
I
think
if
Naomi
can
look
at
that
or
whatever
if
we
do
it
offline
until
our
next
meeting
but
I
think
that's
what
we
kind
of
adhere
to
I
think
the
only
difference
is
that
we
start
the
discussion
on
Capital
measure
J
projects
a
little
sooner
in
the
year,
because
sometimes
it's
kind
of
a
crunch
and
I'm
for
a
December
meeting.
If
we
think
that's
necessary,
I
think
we've
kind
of
had
them
the
last
few
years,
I.
A
I
Would
say
also
we
just
have
we're
gonna,
have
new
process
to
discuss
and
decide
on
so
that'll
keep
us
busy
October
through
December
yeah,
okay,
so
it
sounds
like
an
Evelyn.
Maybe
you
can
correct
me
if
this
is
allowed
can
are
depending
on
our
can
we
do
a
like
a
working
group
that
the
three
people
is
that.
H
B
B
D
B
D
A
A
Just
quickly,
this
is
why
the
ideas
of
having
an
estimate
for
23
24,
even
though
it
will
change
throughout
the
year.
That's
what
we
worked
on
throughout
the
year,
saying:
okay,
we're
going
to
have
15,
20,
25
million
that
we
should
be
looking
at
for
23.24
and
over
the
course
of
the
year
that
gets
adjusted
based
upon
the
real,
the
real
estimate
that
it's
not
actually
the
budget
for
next
year.
It's
just
it's
just
City
manager
and
finance's
estimate,
and
then
before
it
goes
to
city
council.
A
I
E
D
E
I
B
I
G
G
I
I
D
A
Yeah
I
mean
generally,
what
happened.
Was
city
council
wants
to
see
everything
together
in
the
past
and
also
at
that
point
is
when
they
know
better
how
much
money
we
they
think
we'll
have
for
next
year.
Okay,
there
is,
there
is
another
option.
You
know
we
have
always
done
things
in
the
past.
There
has
been
cases
where
things
have
come
up
in
the
year.
That
is
not
something
that
I
I
know
the
community
initiative.
A
D
B
J
Me
Evelyn,
yes,
I,
take
a
report,
a
mid-year
report
back
to
city
council
generally
in
January,
beginning
of
February
and
I
report
on
the
fiscal
year
end
if
the
audit
has
been
completed
and
all
the
adjustments
that
I
take
a
mid-year
report
back.
That
said,
this
is
how
we
ended
the
fiscal
year.
This
is
what
we
have
at
mid-year
from
July
through
December
and
to
readjust,
if
we
need
to
add
anything
at
expenditures,
projects
or
whatnot.
I
B
A
I
A
I
would
like
to
request
that
I,
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen,
that
we
figure
out
how
to
talk
to
Amy
blaisdale
about
promotion
and
that
I
know
has
sort
of
come
off
a
few
times
and
I
think.
Last
time.
Unfortunately,
we
talked
about
potentially
having
you
know
at
least
a
quarterly
sort
of
measure,
J
update,
somehow
whether
it's
in
the
the
PS
I
Love,
You
magazine
or
social
media
whatever,
given
that
it
probably
won't
happen
weekly
but
or
monthly,
but
could
be
at
least
quarterly.
A
I
What
are
the
posts
throughout
the
year
that
we
can
guarantee,
send
her
information
and
then
there's
a
measure
J
plug
so
I
think
we
already
have
a
guess.
The
person
recognition,
commission
or
director
is
coming
next
month,
so
it
might
be
a
little
loaded
for
October
I,
don't
know
if
we
want
to
try
to
do
both
or
if
we
can
ask
Amy
to
come.
Maybe
in
November
it
might
be
I
think
it'd
be
helpful,
her
to
just
come
and
maybe
chat
with
us
for
15
minutes
with
the
whole
Commission.