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B
Since
this
is
a
public
meeting
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issues.
That's
within
the
committee's
purview
comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
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time
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is
presented.
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you
want
to
speak
on
an
item
not
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today's
agenda,
you
may
speak
now.
Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes.
Is
there
anyone
here
who
wants
to
make
the
comment
on
an
item
that
is
not
on
today's
agenda?
If
so,
please
come
up
to
the
microphone.
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D
The
project
site
is
located
at
the
corner
of
North
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
and
the
West
VA
law.
This
is
a
mixed-use
building
and
this
property
is
very
unique.
The
zone
designation
of
the
property
is
a
street
right
in
the
middle
and
half
of
the
property
on
the
North
Palm
Canyon
Drive
side
is
actually
c1,
which
is
a
commercial
and
the
other
half
is
r2,
which
is
multi-family
residential
zone.
D
This
is
just
to
show
the
street
facing
innovation
on
the
West
via
Lola.
If
you
look
at
the
pictures
at
the
bottom
and
starting
from
the
right
side,
this
is
an
existing
coffee
shop.
That's
located
at
the
corner
of
Melrose
farm
Canyon
and
West
via
Lola.
It's
called
Arnaz
coffee,
which
connects
to
a
bootlegger
tiki
bar.
It's
a
cocktail
lounge
and
the
project
site
is
right.
Next
to
it,
which
was
previously
utilized
by
an
art
gallery
and
the
property
continues
to
the
residential
vacation
rental
side.
It's
called
a
twist.
D
So
this
lights,
to
show
you
what
the
property
currently
looks
like
and
what
applicants
being
Africa
is
proposing.
The
most
prominent
changes
is
the
application
of
composite
with
siding
on
the
primary
innovation,
as
well
as
the
installation
of
hedges,
which
actually
are
artificial,
ficus
hedges
to
create
this
outdoor
patio
area,
which
is
going
to
be
utilized
for
a
cocktail.
I
should
say
count
bar
slash
a
drink
counter
and
I'm
gonna
show
a
little
bit
more
details
in
the
upcoming
slides.
D
As
you
can
see
that,
because
proposing
the
application
of
a
composite
wood,
siding
in
a
vertical
and
horizontal
orientation
to
bring
some
textures
and
the
applicants
proposing
to
utilize
an
existing
18
inch,
high,
concrete
block
wall,
I'm,
sorry
concrete
wall
to
accommodate
the
proposed
new
ficus
hedges,
the
color
of
the
siding
is
gonna,
be
Spanish
walnut.
It's
brown
in
color
and
a
pica
is
also
proposing
to
use
a
similar
color
palette
to
the
door
frames
and
the
window
sashes.
D
This
is
a
section
of
the
outdoor
patio
area.
As
you
can
see,
there
will
be
an
a
retractable,
awning,
that's
coming
towards
the
street,
and
there
will
be
a
counter
space
and
artificial
hedges
will
be
on
the
other
street
side,
and
this
is
a
detailed,
a
drawing
of
how
the
artificial
hedges
I'm
sorry
artificial,
ficus
head
constructed
as
I
mentioned.
D
Briefly,
existing
the
concrete
plant
of
wall
it's
going
to
be
utilized,
the
wood
framing
is
going
to
be
constructed
on
top
of
it,
to
create
a
structural
frame
for
the
artificial
ficus
hatch,
which
will
also
accommodate
and
expose
neon
sign.
Eventually-
and
this
is
another
section
drawing
for
the
treatment
of
an
existing
stone
wall
which
divides
the
art
gallery.
Space
from
the
residential
portion
and
again,
the
composite
wood
siding
will
be
applied
to
the
exterior
of
the
wall
as
well.
D
Staff
finds
that,
based
on
the
findings
that
are
required
by
the
zoning
code,
the
proposed
design
generally
meet
those
requirements
and
for
the
reason
the
staff
is
recommending
the
architecture
and
the
Advisory
Committee
to
approve
the
proposed
project,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
that
are
included
in
the
report.
The
applicant
is
here
today
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have,
and
also
there
is
a
material.
That's
probably
floating
around
for
your
review
and
stuff
is
also
we'll
be
able
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have,
and
this
concludes
the
presentation.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
F
E
D
D
E
B
G
The
idea
is
that
the
interior
was
supposed
to
be
supposed
to
feel
like
a
French
tailor
shop
feel
on
the
inside.
So
we
wanted
to
reflect
the
look
in
the
fill
on
the
outside.
Hence
the
hedges,
there's
working
with
the
branding
person
who's
also
involved
in
the
project.
The
idea
of
a
neon
sign
came
up
early,
which
is
very
attractive
and
something
we
hope
becomes
unique
to
the
place
and
becomes
part
of
the
kind
of
identity
of
it.
G
The
south-facing
facade
that
sort
of
taken
a
beating
right
now
we
talked
to
a
local
rep
and
he
had
some
good
things
to
say
in
terms
of
color
loss,
which
is
only
like
a
5%
color
loss
on
it.
So
I
think
it'll
withstand
to
that.
Well,
the
the
art
of
the
artificial
hedge
will
be
built
around
an
existing
concrete
planter
wall.
That's
there!
G
So,
rather
than
sort
of
demolishing
that,
we
thought
we
would
build
on
top
of
that
and
just
sort
of
frame
on
top
of
that
to
create
the
the
hedge
that
holds
sort
of
the
sign.
The
sign
box,
which
will
the
mechanics
of
the
electrical,
would
be
inside
of
that
and
then
a
nice
sort
of
wood
wood
fence
that
doubles
as
a
drink
rail,
and
it
has
some
sort
of
under
counter
lighting
on
the
inside
to
kind
of
give
it
a
nice
sort
of
Moody
moody,
environment.
G
From
a
the
awning
will
be
mainly
for
shade,
really
I
think
that
existing
overhang
is
four
feet,
but
even
in
the
summer
months
the
Sun
still
kind
of
comes
into
that
space.
Pretty
pretty
harsh,
so
we're
gonna
have
a
manual
on
in
there
just
to
help
with
the
shade
and
the
retracts
extends
a
six
feet.
I
don't
have
any
anything
else
to
add
to
that
other
than
I.
G
Think
the
we
hope
that
the
addition
to
this
kind
of
enhances,
the
look
of.
What's
there
now
I,
think
the
building
is
already
sort
of
a
eclectic
mix
of
interesting
things
around
the
corner.
You
know
there's
a
sort
of
tiki
bar:
that's
there
there's
an
earnest
coffee
around
the
corner.
There's
these
tiki
totems
that
blow
fire
around
the
space.
So
it's
really
sort
of
an
eclectic
mix
and
I
think
this
project
enhances
sort
of
that
eclectic
mix
of
uses
in
this
region.
I!
Think
of
downtown,
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
from
anybody.
B
C
G
Think
the
the
look
we
wanted
was
this
sort
of
glowing
sign
that
sort
of
emerges
from
organic
plant
material,
this
sort
of
secret
garden,
look
mm-hmm
from
coming
we're
talking
with
the
branding
team
and
I.
Think
that's
really
that's
supposed
to
be
the
kind
of
the
look
that
we
want
and,
and
we
didn't
see
with
time
constraints
and
growing,
real
hedges
and
the
sort
of
realities
behind
making
that
happen.
G
We
thought
that
an
artificial
hedge
would
give
us
that
same
look
and
not
use
any
water
or
maintenance
and
and
be
affordable
and
they're
out
of
Orange
County.
So
if
you
know
they
say
it
lasts
seven
to
eight
years
and
doesn't
discolor
so
I'm
sure
we
could,
if
there's
any
concern
about
how
it'll
hold
up
I,
think
that
can
be
swapped
out
and
maintained
and
look
lush
and
fluffy,
but
that
was
sort
of
the
thinking
behind
our
artificial
use
of
of
hedge
material
mm-hmm.
C
H
C
I
see
here,
it's
got
a
planter
in
front
of
it
and
then
I
can
I
can
kind
of
surmise
by
the
lower
left.
Second,
from
the
far
left
photo
that
that
concrete,
existing
concrete
flat
work
comes
all
the
way
up
to
the
back
side
of
that
wall,
and
so
in
order
to
achieve
what
you
have
Rep
right
there
exactly
so
the
concrete,
hard
scape
comes
right
up
to
that
wall.
So
in
order
for
you
to
build
your
higher
wall
behind
that
that
I
think
your
cladding
with
a
wood
is
with
material.
G
G
You
can
use
a
microphone
right.
There
you'll
see,
there's
about
a
six
or
seven
inch
space,
all
the
way
around
where
we
can
access
and
put
posts
for
the
whole
defense
and
also
anchor
it
to
the
concrete
plant.
Your
wall,
that's
there,
so
there
don't
think
we
need
to
bust
out
any
flat
work
for
the
patio.
Okay.
G
G
C
Think
you'd
be
purchasing
tov
like
this
cuz
you're,
looking
for
the
fullness
or
the
caliper,
or
something
that's
mature
and
thick
and
bushy,
but
probably
cutting
it
down
pretty
far.
If
you
wanted
that
same
height,
I,
don't
want
to
tell
you
how
to
do
it,
but
throwing
it
out
there
I,
don't
think
you
start
off
with
little
guys
with
some
big
ones
and
down,
because
you
need
thickness
in
the
phone
right,
yeah.
G
H
G
Tall
ficus,
hedge,
that's,
maybe
the
same
height
as
our
counter,
and
then
we
would
have
a
low
point
where
we
would
have
concrete
and
then
we'd
have
a
drink.
Well,
so
maybe
this
section
will
change
it
because
we're
framing
on
it
to
kind
of
consolidate
that
space
I,
don't
know
I'm
trying
to
imagine
how
that
one
of
the
reasons
we
covered
that
wall
too,
was
to
prevent
people
from
moving
on
yeah
sitting
on
it
and
bringing
their
drinks
out
there,
and
things
like
that.
Well,.
C
C
F
G
Yeah,
the
wood
comes
with
trim,
pieces
and
caps,
but
I
think
that
the
finished
materials
right
now
is
plans
to
stop
to
stop
right
on
that
edge
and
not
wrap
the
corner
and
and
sort
of
influence
that
wall
there's.
There's
a
stair
there's
a
stair.
There
that's
pulled
off
the
wall
a
little
bit
so
that
space
is
already
kind
of
blocked
from
view,
or
at
least
it's
cluttered,
I
guess,
there's
also
some
gas
equipment
there
that's
used
for
the
tiki
bars
fire
torches.
That's
all
up
on
that
wall
as
well
kind
of
see
it.
F
G
H
G
Yeah,
that's
right.
It's
taller
on
the
48
side
to
kind
of
hold
the
sign
and
the
sign
sort
of
box
and
the
electrical
requirements
on
the
inside
will
have
an
access
panel
sort
of
like
camouflaged
into
the
hedge,
so
we
can
get
in
there
and
change
the
electrical
or
work
on
the
sort
of
the
mechanics
on
the
inside
and
the
lower.
One
is
really
just
to
add
some
variety
to
it:
a
lower
hedge
wall
that
just
changes
the
elevation
and
maybe
exposes
the
drink.
Well,
a
little
bit
more.
E
Thank
you,
a
question
just
in
terms
of
functional
issue
in
terms
of
service
and
all
so
deliveries
are
gonna
come
in
and
trash
is
gonna,
go
out
that
one
door
correct.
Yes,.
G
E
Yes,
I
sort
of
see
what
you're
trying
to
do
in
terms
of
that
front.
Patio
I
think
it
could
be
a
pleasant
space
and
I
think
that
the
integration
of
the
materials
that
you
have
against
what
the
rest
of
the
building
God
knows,
there's
a
lot
going
along
on
in
there
aesthetically
in
terms
of
materials
in
particular
detailing,
but
I
think
it
kind
of
pulls
it
together
to
a
certain
extent,
with
the
stone
and
the
wood.
E
You
have
a
couple
materials
there
that
I
just
I
personally
have
no
experience
with
either
the
composite
wood
or
the
or
the
the
hedge,
the
artificial,
hedge
and
I.
Just
I
worry,
perhaps
in
terms
of
their
longevity
and
their
look
over
a
period
of
time,
and
that's
the
type
of
thing
that
if
you
got
close
to
it-
and
it
didn't
wear
well
over
time
it
could,
it
could
really
do
harm
aesthetically.
G
And
and
so
I
called
the
rep,
you
know
and
you
call
the
rep
and
it's
you
know
it's
it's
much
more
affordable
than
real
wood,
but
he's
saying
that
it
really
only
has
a
5%
color
gradation
over
like
10
years
mm-hmm,
so
it
doesn't
change
colors.
It
doesn't
really
warp
it
it.
It
applies
with
sort
of
a
fastening
system,
some
some
wood,
furring
strips
and
some
clips.
So
it's
very
well
anchored
to
the
facade
and
it's
sort
of
a
tongue
and
groove.
So
nothing's
gonna
be
hoping
nothing
you
know.
Does
it
move,
pushing
pool?
G
E
G
I
I
G
It's
a
good
question.
The
the
the
the
tongue-and-groove
composite
is
actually
going
to
be
on
the
the
facade.
The
actual
drink
rail
would
be
made
of
real
would
be
real.
The
composite
is
really
just
gonna,
be
sticking
on
the
facade
over
the
stucco
is,
as
the
back
face
the
main
facade
face
and
that
drink
roll
made
from
real.
B
G
I
love
the
barrel
cactus
to
I.
Think
that
but
I
think
the
barrel.
Cactus
really
would
change
the
look
of
of
what
we're
going
for
I,
don't
think,
there's
space
for
the
barrel
cactus
and,
let's
say
six
inches
of
framing
in
front
of
that
planter
wall
to
maintain
them
both
plus
I'm.
Not
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
a
barrel
cactus
would
look
good
in
front
of
a
ficus
hedge
I
think
they
look
great
now
in
front
of
that
concrete.
G
B
C
If,
if
this
is
a
little
Eastbourne
ownership,
opportunity
here
and
and
I
asked
that,
but
just
tell
you
where
I'm
going
with
it
is
how
that
would
get
supplied
to
that
natural
stone
masonry
wall
on
the
west
side
of
that
patio
there
and
then
I
have
another
one
or
two
questions
about
how
some
of
the
pain
treatments
returned
around
the
sides.
It
started
from
that
question
of
how
that
would
terminates
on
that
front
facade.
So
sorry,
one
at
a
time
so
lease
opportunity,
it's
at
least
okay
yeah.
C
F
G
Did
this
we
don't
have
sorry,
we
don't
have
a
detail
of
how
how
that
goes.
I
think
we're
still
trying
to
still
working
through
the
details
once
we
get
approve
on
how
it
gets
attached.
But
the
idea
is
that
maybe
we
we're
probably
going
to
put
some
furring
strips
to
pull
it
out
so
because
the
wall
already
has
sort
of
got
stone
on
it,
but
I'm
sure
we
can
find
a
way
not
to
put
too
many
holes
in
any
of
the
stones.
H
C
Okay
and
and
I
I
think
I
know
the
answer,
but
that
the
paint
that
you're
painting
on
the
eaves,
which
you
can
almost
see
all
on
that
particular
rendering
image
at
the
top.
But
then
it
extends
down
and
it
returns
on
the
left
side
of
the
entry
of
the
Tiki
lounge
also
are
the
entry
doors
to
to
the
east.
There
yeah
yeah.
F
G
We
would
try
to
paint
all
the
sort
of
the
the
the
paint
is
sort
of
a
color
that
blends
between
the
wood.
The
starts
give
you
the
wood,
composite
material
and
the
sort
of
dark,
charcoal
metal,
siding
and
right
now
it's
white.
It's
like
sort
of
stark
white,
so
we
would
paint
it
I'm
sure
to
paint
the
plains,
the
route
that
all
the
surfaces
continuously
as
possible.
So
if
I
can
point
you
know
this,
will
this
will
receive
paint?
G
This
will
receive
paint
underneath
will
also
be
the
same
material
of
this
so
it'll
kind
of
come
over
the
top
its
wood
on
the
ceiling.
Yeah
they're
compiled
it's
the
composite
wood
material
over
the
top
the
ceiling.
So
you
have
to
demo
the
ceiling
to
apply
that
no,
we
would
apply
it
the
same
way.
We
apply
the
over
the
existing
stucco,
so
it's
a
stucco
overhang,
so
it's
just
gonna
be
a
lightweight
and
chemically
adhered
screen
over
that.
So.
H
C
C
C
Don't
put
them
on
the
ceiling,
that's
my
suggestion.
Just
leave
it
off
and
well
I
think
you're
it's
not
accounted
for
here.
Then
you
need
to
drop
some
fascia
detail
or
something
to
cover
up
all
those
the
edges
and,
like
I,
said
whatever
you're
adhering
them
to.
If
it's
a
channel
or
something
like
that,
I
don't
think.
That's
quite
accounted
for
here.
G
We
the
reason
we
didn't
put
that
stuff
underneath
the
metal
was
for
rain.
We
just
thought
if
we
tuck
to
some
of
that
stuff,
underneath
any
sort
of
rain
would
drip
over
the
edge
and
not
get
in
between
the
deciding
and
the
fascia
and
the
wood
panels,
so
that
you
know
we
can,
if
we
just
kept
it
underneath
any
rain
would
just
drip
right
over
and
not
have
to
risk
getting
it.
B
I
I
H
I
Perhaps
but
which
might
might,
as
we
discuss
how
it
wraps
in
the
ceiling,
the
fascia
is
in
there
what
appears
to
be
in
there,
which
you
know
you
were
talking
about,
the
the
raine
sheathing
and
finishing,
which
might
work.
As
you
said,
you
also
have
lighting
changes.
You
have
gone
to
a
small
small
can
versus
the
existing
rectangular
fixtures
that
are
up
there.
Yeah
with
that
are
those
gonna
be
on
dimmers.
G
Yeah
everything
is
gonna,
be
dimmable,
okay,
yeah.
We
want
this
to
be
very
moody
and
dim
kind
of
place
on
the
exterior,
of
course,
I
think.
We've
we've
got
the
right
amount
of
light.
We
needed
for
this
sort
of
tasks
in
the
patio,
but
the
idea
is
that
these
lights
are
sort
of
providing
just
enough
light
to
provide
a
safe
sort
of
you
know:
walking:
okay,
Iron
Man
in
drinking
environment,
you've.
I
Got
LED
tape,
lights,
spectat,
the
drink
counter
right
and
in
the
pinholes
you've
got
lamps
Specht
and
the
gooseneck
you've
got
lamps
pecked
the
pinhole
says
yeah.
The
spec
is
3000
K,
which
is
you
said.
You
want
to
watch
your
tape
light
because
that's
probably
kind
of
come
in
at
5,000.
It's
a
very
cold
color
and
the
two
are
not
very
complementary.
G
I
Warm
and
the
based
on
the
photometric
plan
I'm
not
sure
what
they
ran
it
with
5,000
K
in
down
down
lights
and
you're,
getting
some
really
really
high
intensity
numbers,
which
may
also
be
coming
from
a
spot
hot
lamp
versus
a
flood
which
will
be
uncomfortable
standing
under
if
you
have
it
intense,
yeah,
so
visually
reading
it.
If
you're
trying
to
create
this,
we
a
spoke
feeling
you've
got
some
integration
that
needs
to
be
looked
at.
E
G
Angle,
so
when
they
were
on,
you
would
actually
see
them
kind
of
shining
against
the
glass
and
down
and
not
sort
of
really
an
even
wash.
That
was
served
with
a
look
that
we
wanted
and
also
the
the
light
that
sort
of
barn
light,
I
guess
over
the
door,
it's
sort
of
a
dim
light.
So
we
want
it
as
ingen
said,
to
be
very
minimal,
I
think
those
numbers
there
are
probably
because
of
the
there's
sort
of
spot
like
and
they
have
this
sort
of
angular
I
guess
wash
on
it.
G
I
Since
you
brought
up
the
barn
light,
look
that
you
want
that
to
be
very
low-key
in
the
specification
for
the
light.
This
one
is
specifically
ideal
for
retail
centers,
industrial
parks,
schools
and
universities,
public
transit
and
airports,
office,
buildings
of
medical
facilities.
So
this
you
may
want
to
look
at
this
specification
because
this
they
get
to
brill
not
know.
Do
you
like
I
object
to
this
a
picture
on
in
this
neighborhood?
It's
just
not
appropriate.
That
kind
of
yeah
the
the
quantity
of
light
that's
gonna,
come
out
of
this
thing
is,
as
they.
A
A
I
G
B
A
G
G
B
F
Okay
overall
I'm,
pretty
good
with
it,
I
think
I
kind
of
agree
that
the
doing
the
would
on
the
under
hang
is
not
a
great
idea.
I
think
just
I
mean,
and
that
could
be
a
Bali.
You
issued
it's
just
to
have
that
painted
with
a
facial
color,
because
I
think
the
intersection
between
especially
the
vertical
and
the
horizontal,
depending
on
how
you
do
that
is
gonna,
be
a
bit
awkward
and
that
that
corner
is
gonna,
be
a
little
weird,
so
I'm
thinking,
maybe
you
just
look
at
paint
for
that.
F
The
underside
of
the
the
soffit
I'm
I,
not
a
huge
fan
of
swapping
the
direction
of
the
wood.
It
feels
kind
of
odd
to
me,
and
then
my
other
concern
is
is
the
is
how
that
condition
ends,
because
when
you
see
it
on
the
corner,
you're
gonna
see
this
wood
and
then
just
white
stucco
I
feel
that
so
still
a
bit
of
an
awkward
detail.
So
the
one
thing
I
was
thinking
and
again
with
the
overhang
or
with
the
soffit.
F
It's
gonna
be
kind
of
awkward,
but
I
was
thinking.
You
could
use
that
wall
as
a
delineation
of
wearing
this
sort
of
wood
stops,
so
the
edge
of
the
inside
edge
of
that
rich
did
the
block
wall
to
the
west.
Should
I
get
up
in
point
and
I
just
bring
this
there.
You
go.
Oh
that's
easier!
All
this
freedom.
F
H
Would
like
to
see
that
the
stone
wall
be
retained,
I
think
there's
some
design
solutions
that
can
work
with
what
they're
proposing
in
lieu
and
and
address
the
problem
of
people
sitting
on
it.
I
think
there's
I
like
the
stone
I
think
it
should
remain
I'm,
not
a
fan
of
this.
What
would
be
kind
of
a
large
boxed
area
near
the
sign
of
the
artificial
plants?
H
C
The
Westside
I
too,
would
like
to
see
a
natural
material
used
instead
of
the
prosthetic
mighty
material.
Therefore,
the
for
the
hedge
that
is
being
proposed
there
and
I
think
I.
Think
to
me:
that's
it's
not
just
a
personal
preference
I
feel
like
where
I've
seen
that
in
the
past
it's
dusty.
Maybe
it's
not
completely
discolored
from
the
Sun,
but
it's
not
a
true
color.
That.
B
C
That
I
would
think
even
seeing
the
structure
of
it
and
the
attachment
method
of
how
those
inner
law,
it
really
scares
me
and
I-
think
it
it
may
take
away
from
the
the
aesthetic
that
you're
looking
for
and
it's
just
not
as
clean,
so
that
would
that
would
be
my
vote
for
the
natural
material
before
the
keeping
of
the
but
I'm,
not
that
offended
by
the
way
it's
configured
here.
The
material
I
think
it's
actually
a
nice
composition.
C
C
It
should
be
a
low
material
like
barrel,
cactus,
height
or
slightly
taller,
and
something
that
dials
in
that
now
takes
your
presence
all
the
way
from
your
West
property
line,
for
a
black
of
a
better
time
to
your
East
property
line
and
really
captures
that
whole
space
and
says:
hey,
look
I'm
here
and
not
just
over
here
and
so
for
the
light
fixtures.
It's
so
fall,
so
I
think
it's
just
the
wrong
spec.
C
It's
actually
angling
back
towards
the
glass
like
John
had
pointed
out
and
but
I
think
you
know,
wouldn't
take
long
to
duck
10
minutes
on
Google
to
find
the
fixture
you're.
Looking
for
that
does
what
what
you're
hoping
it'll
do
up
there
Tom's
coming
about
the
Stonewall
I!
Think
you
mean
on
the
west
side.
There
yeah
I,
don't
know
how
much
that
would
application,
how
much
mileage
you're
really
getting
out
of
that
either
by
making
it
wood
and
and
I
might
agree
with
that
comma.
C
That
I
think
you've
it's
in
danger
of
destroying
50
years
of
of
integrity
and
history
there
for
what
and
I
don't
really
see
the
payoff
as
being
worth
that
the
damage?
That's
it's
going
to
cost
to
that
stone,
wall
and
I
hope
they're
there
for
50
years,
but
I
I,
don't
know
that
you
will
be
I'm
sure
you'll
move
into
a
much
bigger
space
after
how
well
this
does
so.
I
would
argue
that
the
it's
probably
worth
keeping
what's
existing
there
now
and
I
think
it.
C
It
even
helps
tie
in
the
whole
space
with
what
I'm
saying
about
keeping
that
that
green,
that
greenery
running
from
the
west
to
the
east
and
now
seeing
that
stone
again
begin
on
the
east
and
repeat
again
on
the
west
in
a
subtle
way.
I
I,
don't
know
that
you
really
need
it
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
about
them.
Chuck.
I
E
It
the
fork
in
the
road
is
whether
or
not
you
accept
that
little
low
stone
wall
that
that
is
there
and
I
yeah
I.
Think
personally,
I
probably
would
have
tried
to
integrate
it
and
have
a
less
challenging
project,
because
I
think
that
is,
it
has
taken
a
tremendous
amount
of
problem-solving
to
kind
of
get
the
the
extended
build
up
around
the
wall
and
everything
to
work
in
to
tie
in
aesthetically.
E
The
next
comment
is
I
would
not
burden
this
user.
With
these
barrel,
cactus
reuse,
things
I,
think
that
when
you
evaluate
the
overall
elevation
of
this
building,
it's
like
you
know,
you've
got
these
divergent
storefronts
that
are
happening,
and
that's
that's
not
unacceptable,
and
so
I
think
that
that,
yes,
it's
sort
of
a
change
of
theme,
a
change
of
detailing.
They
need
to
look
somewhat
harmonious,
but
clearly
you've
got
different
users
selling
different
things
in
these
different
locations,
and
so
I
just
it
to
reach
for
that
level
of
continuity
from
space
to
space.
E
E
B
You
member
wash
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
add.
New
I
will
just
say
that
I'm
very
suspicious
of
the
faux
ficus
and
the
sort
of
boxing
it
out
I
think
it's
just
never
gonna
look
like
a
ficus,
even
though
it
kind
of
looks
nice
in
your
pictures,
so
I
I'm,
I'm
kind
of
I'm,
leaning
towards
using
natural
materials.
There
I
also
agree
with
the
idea
of
maintaining
the
stone
on
the
west
wall
and
then
also
relooking
at
the
lighting.
So
that's
yeah,
I.
C
A
B
C
A
And
maybe
I'll
ask
to
clarify
some
of
those
comments.
Number
one
relative
to
the
hedge
material.
It
seems
that
there's
a
consensus
among
the
members
that
you
would
prefer
to
see
a
natural
material
for
the
hedge
and
to
maintain
the
stone
on
the
western
portion
of
the
wall
in
terms
of
the
lighting.
The
shape
of
the
fixture
is
okay,
it
is
the
direction
and
the
specifications
for
the
light
fixture
that
the
applicant
needs
to
reassess.
Is
that
correct.
A
You've
heard
comments
relative
to
how
to
detail
the
western
end
of
that
to
leave
a
portion
or
to
wrap
the
stucco
around
the
corner
and
have
it
start
on
the
inside
face
of
that
wall
that
connects
to
the
facade
of
the
building.
There
you've
also
heard
comments
relative
to
not
using
the
wood
on
the
underside
of
the
soffit
I.
Don't
know
if
there
was
consensus
from
the
board
on
that
point.
A
I,
don't
think
we
have
consensus
on
okay,
so
the
if
there
isn't
consensus
on
that
point,
then
the
applicant
may
go
ahead
and
use
the
wood
on
the
underside
of
the
soffit
and
those
were
the
primary
points
that
I
had
one
other
comment
relative
to
maintaining
the
barrel
cactus
or
not.
It
was
suggested
that
perhaps
a
different
material
could
be
utilized
in
that
area,
and
so
that
would
be
up
to
the
applicant
to
determine
if
they
would
like
to
do
that.
I
think.
B
B
F
For
me,
it
was
just
a
suggestion
and
idea,
but
I
think.
Ultimately,
my
concern
is
that
corner
is
gonna,
be
awkward
with.
If
the
wood
just
ends
right
there,
so
I
think
they
just
need
to
revisit
that
and
make
sure
that
it's
gonna
they
we
see
it
in.
We
see
it
in
three
dimensions,
so
we
can
understand
how
it
how
that
it
turns
the
corner.
Okay,.
B
A
Committee
members
I
am
looking
at
our
upcoming
agenda
on
May
the
20th.
It
looks
like
we
may
only
have
one
item,
I
kind
of
hate,
to
bring
you
all
down
here
for
just
one
item,
I
like
to
have
a
fuller
agenda
to
make
it
worth
your
while
based
on
where
my
staff
is
with
their
reports
tomorrow,
I
may
move
to
cancel
the
meeting
on
the
20th,
but
I'll
send
you
an
email
as
soon
as
I
know,
so
that
you
can
plan
your
calendars
accordingly.