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B
C
A
Wonderful,
the
agenda
was
emailed
to
everyone
and
posted
per
city
regulations
and
and
I
did
get
one
sort
of
editorial
correction.
Just
to
alert
you
to
g3
I.
Think
I
made
a
mistake
and
listed
it
as
a
standing
committee
on
active
transportation,
and
it
should
having
been
alerted
by
commissioners.
Wilson
and
gothy
should
be
ad
hoc
committee
on
walkability
and
pedestrian
planning.
Is
that
that's
the
correct
term?
So
it's
my
mistake
for
listing
it
incorrectly,
so
we'll
we'll
make
that
correction
on
future
agendas.
D
A
E
A
E
Yes,
the
council,
in
reviewing
some
of
the
proposed
changes
to
the
road
diets
that
have
been
going
on,
did
want
to
discuss
with
the
Commission
or
have
the
Commission
look
at
one
particular
road
I
think
was
Luverne
Luverne.
Thank
you
guys
and
I.
Don't
know
if
any
of
the
commissioners
had
an
opportunity
to
take
that
up,
but
that
is
correct.
Okay
did.
E
A
B
F
A
G
So
I
was
looking
through
my
emails
in
the
past
week
and
my
principal
apparently
doesn't
do
email
well,
so
I'll
go
talk
to
him
in
person.
I
was
looking
at
the
sender's
and
I
didn't
see
anything
come
from
him
and
it's
been
a
few
months
because
I
was
absent
at
the
last
night
meeting.
So
I
will
talk
to
him
in
person
and
have
something
prepared
for
it.
Okay,.
A
Great
great,
thank
you
very
much
we're
at
public
comments.
We
set
aside
time
at
each
of
the
meetings
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
sustainability
Commission
on
issues
that
are
relevant
to
our
area
of
work.
Is
there
anyone
from
the
public
who
isn't
scheduled,
otherwise
to
speak?
Who
would
like
to
come
forward
and
speak
now?
A
I'm
used
to
saying
or
forever
hold
your
peace,
but
I
see
no
one
coming
forward.
So
we'll
declare
public
comment
closed,
so
Commissioner
Baker
welcome.
We
have
had
Commissioner
Carl
Baker's
appointment
for
a
bit
of
time,
but
have
not
had
a
chance
to
welcome
him
officially
and
to
have
him
speak
and
introduce
himself
to
the
Commission,
and
so
we
invite
you
to
do
that.
Okay,
great.
H
My
name's
Carl
Baker
I'm,
a
native
of
Los
Angeles,
went
to
USC
undergrad
and
went
to
law
school
back
east
and
spent
a
number
of
years
living
in
Manhattan
for
moving
back
to
Palm
Springs
in
2001,
I'm,
currently
employed
by
desert
AIDS
project
as
director
of
legal
affairs
and
legislative
affairs.
In
fact,
I'll
be
in
Sacramento
tomorrow,
knocking
on
doors
at
the
but
which
I
do
in
the
following
week
as
well.
H
I
A
Too
much
apparently
so
well
welcome
we're
delighted
to
have
you
and
just
to
let
commissioners,
though,
in
in
conversations
with
Commissioner
Futterman,
who
has
lots
to
do
she
had
taken
on
wellness
as
well
as
outreach
and
she
is,
and
I
and
Carl
have
all
negotiated.
Carl
is
going
to
assume
some
responsibilities
for
the
wellness
area
and
that
will
allow
gen
to
focus
mr.
A
Futterman
to
focus
on
outreach
with
regard
to
the
farmers
market,
film,
festivals
and
those
sorts
of
things
and
we've
kind
of
developed
a
bit
of
a
job
description
that
she
feels
comfortable
and
is
full
so
so
we're
happy
to
have
Carl
as
a
new
commissioner
and
and
your
focus
on
wellness,
which
I
think
fits
in
well
with
with
the
rest
of
your
professional
life.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
A
A
J
The
Dunn
Road
project,
the
city,
received
two
bids
for
the
project,
the
project,
the
estimate
that
came
from
the
consultant
that
prepared
the
grant
documentation.
Let
me
back
up
for
a
second
Dunn
Road
is
a
city-owned
parcel
out
in
the
hinterlands
to
the
east
of
Palm
Desert.
If
you
drew
a
straight
line
from
Palm
Canyon
Road
down
south
to
highway
74
about
three-quarters
of
the
way
you'd
hit
the
city-owned
parcel,
it's
about
40
acres
and
back
in
the
day
sometime
in
the
Oh.
J
The
goal
of
the
project
and
what
will
the
grant
was
received
for
was
to
clean
up
the
site,
remove
the
waste
and
return
it
back
to
natural
habitat
and
ensure
that
it
was
not
used
for
dump
any
time
in
the
future.
The
third
goal
has
already
been
achieved
because
the
road
out
there
is
almost
impassable.
J
The
the
first
two
are
a
little
more
problematic
and
that's
what
the
grant
originally
was
given
to
the
city
for
the
consultant
prepared
that
the
grant
documentation
had
an
estimate
on
how
much
it
would
cost
the
city
went
out
with
the
scope
of
work
and
that
cost
estimate
solicited
bids.
The
grant
that
was
received
was
about
four
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars.
J
The
bids
came
in
at
one
point
two
and
one
point:
four
million,
so
the
first
bid
the
low
parent
Loeb
at
one
point,
two
million
did
not
submit
all
the
acquired
documentation
bid
bonds,
so
they
were
deemed
unresponsive.
The
sole
remaining
bid
was
one
point,
four,
which
is
a
million
dollars
more
than
we
had
available
so
working
with
the
mountain
Conservancy
to.
If
we
explained
to
them
what
had
transpired,
their
goal
was
still
to
get
it
cleaned
up.
J
They're,
looking
at
the
possibility
of
funding
additional
funds
for
the
project
and
the
city
is
looking
at
ways
to
minimize
the
expense
so
between
the
two,
more
money
and
less
cost,
we
hope
to
be
able
to
get
to
a
viable
project.
Currently
we're
working
with
the
contractor
to
find
out
what
what
economies
we
can.
We
can
realize
by
making
some
modifications
in
the
scope.
J
Depending
on
what
happens
with
the
Conservancy,
we
might
reject
all
bids
and
go
out
with
a
modified
scope.
That's
a
little
leaner
and
includes
some
cost
savings
and
some
recommendations
from
the
Conservancy
and
also
recommendations
from
the
contractor.
One
of
the
big-ticket
items
was
plant
establishment
where
they
were
to
collect
seeds
from
the
existing
plants
around
and
then
recede
using
those
native
seeds.
That's
a
pricey
proposal,
so
we're
looking
at
other
alternatives
so,
but
we
do
expect
to
go
out,
go
out
again
either
award
the
contract
or
go
out
again
within
the
next
two
months.
J
J
Currently
it's
called
a
road
diet.
There
are
other
names
that
are
being
bandied
about
for
it,
because
road
diet
suggests
that
it
is
a
it
is
at
the
expense
of
vehicles
and
that's
not
what
it
is.
It's
opening
it
up
to
other
means
of
transportation,
so
for
now
we'll
use
Road
diet
until
we
come
up
with
better,
more
friendly
term,
but
the
city's
been
very
successful
in
implementing
Road
diets.
J
Improving
access
for
bicycles
and
pedestrians
and
the
project
that
went
to
the
City
Council
was
one
of
the
last
pieces
of
creating
a
bike.
Ped
loop
into
downtown.
One
of
the
key
components
of
that
was
the
Laverne
corridor,
which
is
from
Palm
Canyon
and
without
a
map
I'm
Palm
Canyon
to
the
east.
Well,.
A
K
J
J
So
twin
palms
is
where,
right
now
it's
a
four-lane
arterial,
the
current
ADT
average
daily
traffic
does
not
warrant
the
the
four
lanes
and
a
traffic
study
indicated
at
build-out.
It
would
not
warrant
the
four
lanes
there.
Just
wasn't
there
wasn't
the
need
for
it.
So
what
was
he
looked
at?
It
was
providing
bike
lanes
a
buffer
zone
between
the
bike
lanes
and
traveled
away,
one
lane
in
each
direction
and
then
to
a
center
turn
median
that
way
people
can
go
in
and
out
of
their
side,
streets
and
driveways.
J
There
was
some
significant
opposition
to
that
from
some
of
the
neighborhood
groups
and
individuals.
The
City
Council
opted
not
to
include
that
in
the
bid
that
went
out
for
the
project
at
the
last
meeting.
That
is
being
included
as
an
ad
alternate,
so
that
we
can
at
least
get
the
contractors
to
include
it
with
a
price
so
that
when
we
come
back
for
award
there
is
the
opportunity
at
award
to
either
add
it
back
in
or
as
at
a
later
date
to
add
it
back
in
as
a
change
order.
J
J
Whether
or
not
laverne
should
be
converted
from
a
four-way
arterial
to
a
two-lane
local
street,
with
the
added
on
street
parking
and
in
bike
lanes
and
to
a
left
turn
line
or
whether
it
should
remain
as
in
its
current
configuration
I
believe
Denise
has
been
contacting
the
neighborhood's
and
getting
their
input.
That's
been
varied.
J
K
Been
fairly
involved
with
this
because
one
of
the
neighborhoods
that
was
consulted
as
indian
canyons,
which
I
was
on
the
board
of
until
last
week,
the
neighborhood
for
reasons
I
appropriate,
it
has
decided
not
to
take
a
position
but
rather
has
transmitted
the
information
of
a
poll
which
came
out
essentially
evenly
divided
I
understand
from
Denise
that
some
of
the
other
neighborhoods
are
expressed.
Support.
Others
are
in
opposition.
I
must
say
that
some
of
the
opposition
I
spoke
in
favor
of
the
City
Council's
Tom
knows
when
it
came
up
on
on
the
7th
of
February.
K
Some
of
the
opposition
appears
to
be
that
there
are
massive
traffic
based
on
the
fact
that
there
are
massive
traffic
jams
on
Murray
Canyon
in
front
of
my
house
day
and
night.
That
is
not
correct
and,
and
my
position
has
been
having
benefited
from
the
I
guess
now.
Roughly
two
years
ago,
when
Murray
Canyon
was
added
on
to
Toledo,
which
is
one
of
the
very
first
bike
lanes,
probably
2008
I
believe
refurbished.
K
K
I.
Just
simply
don't
see
the
massive
amount
of
traffic
that
justifies
having
a
four-way
and
I
do
see.
A
very
large
number
of
booth
strains
and
bicyclists
on
unmarry
Canyon
I
expect
that
if
the
loop
were
completed
they
would
be
using
it
as
as
I
believe
how
it
was
intended
and
expected
on
the
on
the
bike.
Mount.
D
D
J
Correct
the
modeling
that
was
done
included
build-out
of
the
general
plan,
and
there
was
a
recommendation
by
the
City
Council
when
they
first
heard
this
I
believe
it
was
in
2016
that
the
circulation
of
element
of
the
general
plan
be
amended
to
reflect
the
changes
to
the
roadways,
and
the
traffic
study
bore
out
that
had
build
out.
It
would
still
not
meet
the
requirements
for
a
four-lane
arterial.
A
A
Welcome
to
the
table
gentlemen,
and
just
as
a
point
of
ancient
history,
probably
two
or
three
years
ago
we
had
a
student
intern
with
the
Department
of
Health
of
Riverside
County,
who
came
and
spoke
to
the
Commission
about
tobacco.
Retail
licensing,
and
probably
the
only
other
ancient
people
at
the
table
would
be
Commissioner
Freedman
and
commissioner
Wilson.
We
would
recall
her
discussion
with
us
so
welcome
gentlemen,
and
for
raising
that
topic
and
others
with
us.
L
L
Let
me
start
by
telling
you
who
we
are
and
why
we
requested
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
today
we're
a
small
but
growing
grassroots
ad-hoc
group
of
concerned
residents,
who
are
focused
on
addressing
the
dangers
of
illegal
sales
of
tobacco
products
to
minors
and
the
health
risks
associated
with
exposure
to
secondhand
and
third-hand
smoke
in
retail,
public
and
communal
areas.
We
refer
to
ourselves
as
a
citizens
group
for
smoke-free
Palm
Springs.
L
It
is
in
our
intent
with
our
collective
and
growing
experience,
knowledge
and
the
city's
operational
governmental
structure
to
facilitate
this
commission
sustainability
plan
in
first
engaging
community
part
to
provide
health
and
wellness
education
and
services
such
as
smoking,
cessation
programs,
second,
promoting
activities
that
enhance
cardiovascular
and
pulmonary
mental,
social
and
emotional
health.
Third,
presenting
the
City
Council
with
well
polished,
well
researched,
bulletproof
proposals
and
plans
for
accomplishing
our
shared
goals.
As
an
ad
hoc
citizens
group,
our
efforts
began
through
our
involvement
with
one
PS
organizations,
starting
with
the
ecology
committee.
L
I
will
present
to
you
the
benefits
of
having
our
city
adopt
Riverside
County
ordinance
regarding
illegal
sale
of
tobacco
products
to
minors.
Robert
Hahn
Bob
will
then
introduce
to
you
a
proposal
regarding
the
development
of
a
city
ordinance
to
amend
the
Municipal
Code,
which
regulates
clean
air,
smoking
and
tobacco
product
use.
Palm
Springs
has
a
letter
F
grade
from
the
American
Lung
Association
for
lack
of
public
health
and
safety
policies
related
to
tobacco,
not
just
any
F
grade,
but
the
worst
F
grade
a
city
can
get
in
California.
L
L
We
can
put
Palm
Springs
on
the
right
side
of
history,
the
right
side
of
the
practical
argument,
the
right
side
of
the
moral
argument
and
the
right
side
of
the
business
math,
we're
supported
by
a
very
long
list
of
organizations
and
agencies
such
as
the
American
Lung
Association,
the
American
Cancer
Society
American,
Heart
Association,
the
CDC,
the
Riverside
County
Department
of
Health,
and
the
list
goes
on
and
on
very
high
caliber,
extremely
credible
sources
and
supporters.
So
I'll
start
with
the
tea
giving
the
highlights
of
the
TRP,
which
is
the
Riverside
County
ordinance.
L
The
TRP,
as
it's
often
called,
is
that
tobacco
retailers
permit,
and
it's
a
permit
and
enforcement
program
designed
to
prevent
illegal
sales
and
use
of
tobacco
to
minors.
Here
are
some
of
the
highlights,
though.
Ordinance
brings
cities
in
Riverside
County
into
compliance
with
federal
state
and
local
laws
regarding
tobacco
sales
and
use
by
persons
under
21
years
of
age.
According
to
the
CDC
99%
of
tobacco
industry
victims,
we
call
lifetime
smoke,
start
smoking
before
the
age
of
21.
L
The
ordinance
reduces
incidents
of
tobacco-related
disease,
any
illegal
sales,
the
county
of
Riverside
Department
of
Environmental
Health
issues.
A
retailer
license,
monitors
compliance
and
concerns
and
is
wholly
responsible
for
enforcement
and
citations
of
all
provisions
of
the
ordinance.
There
is
ZERO
budget
impact
on
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs,
financially
and
in
terms
of
personnel.
It's
all
handled
at
the
county
level.
The
ordinance
brings
illegal
tobacco
sales
to
minors
up
to
the
same
status
as
alcohol
decoy
programs
currently
in
use
by
implementing
a
similar
decoy
program
for
tobacco
sales.
L
The
Cal,
the
state
of
California
stake
act
program
conducted
their
research
and
report
that
illegal
tobacco
sales
to
minors
in
Palm
Springs
is
three
times
the
national
average,
and
this
is
a
conservative
number
currently
there's.
No
enforcement
of
the
illegal
tobacco
sales
in
Palm
Springs
without
the
Riverside
County
TRP
ordinance.
Palm
Springs
is
one
of
only
a
small
few
remaining
cities
in
Riverside
County
that
have
not
yet
adopted
the
tobacco
retailers
permit
ordinance
all.
L
But
two
cities
adopted
the
ordinance
for
Batum
and
the
two
that
created
their
own
ordinance
have
failed
to
be
successful
in
implementation.
Our
neighboring
cities,
Cathedral
City
and
Desert
Hot
Springs,
already
adopted
the
county's
trp
ordinance,
as
has
even
the
newest
city
in
Riverside
County
haru
Pahlavi,
which
has
already
had
it
for
six
years.
The
history
of
this
ordinance,
oddly
enough,
began
right
here
in
the
Coachella
Valley
in
1990,
started
in
Rancho
Mirage
and
is
spread
throughout
the
state.
Full
adoption
of
the
Riverside
County
ordinance
results
in
success.
L
L
As
for
the
TRP,
the
action
were
requesting
from
this
commission
is
an
endorsement
of
the
TRP
for
Palm
Springs,
as
we
bring
it
forward
through
one
PS
ecology
committee,
and
please
know,
there's
already
a
great
deal
of
enthusiastic
support
in
our
city
and
on
our
City
Council
for
smoke-free
ordinances
in
Palm
Springs,
but
make
no
mistake.
The
tobacco
industry
efforts
are
alive
and
well
and
organizing
in
Palm
Springs.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
take
the
time
to
present
to
you
the
TRP.
M
Good
afternoon,
members
of
the
Commission
I'm
Robert
hind
ball
and
I'm,
a
resident
of
Palm,
Springs
and
I
wish
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
you've
provided
for
me
and
address
the
issues
of
health
and
wellbeing
for
the
youth
other
residents
and
visited
the
multitude
of
guests
who
visit
our
city
from
the
mission
statement
of
your
commission.
You
state
health
is
influenced
by
many
factors,
including
genetics,
behavior
and
our
environment.
M
The
air
we
breathe
influences
our
health
and
wellness
without
a
healthy
environment.
There
can
be
no
healthy
people
last
year
during
the
heroes
in
the
park
celebration
and
councilmember,
Junior
Roberts
and
many
other
city
leaders
frequently
remarked
about
the
inclusive
nature
of
Palm
Springs,
as
evidenced
on
that
particular
occasion
by
the
new
facilities
for
our
disabled
residents.
On
that
day,
we
celebrated
the
council's
vision
to
provide
for
the
health
and
wellness
of
these
members
of
our
community.
M
However,
that
vision
needs
to
be
expanded
and
our
elected
officials,
the
including
the
leadership
of
our
assorted
commissions
and
boards,
have
a
responsibility
to
prefer
to
preserve
the
environment
and
increase
equity
by
protecting
the
health
and
well-being
of
our
citizens
and
our
visitors.
Also,
as
Paul
cited,
the
American
Lung
Association
exempt
all
springs
a
letter
grade
of
F
regarding
the
city's
protection
of
its
citizens
and
visitors,
health,
specifically
in
areas
of
smoke-free
outdoor,
smoke-free
multi-unit,
housing,
reducing
the
sales
of
tobacco
products
to
minors
and
several
other
criteria.
M
We
should
be
alarmed
that
tobacco
sales
to
our
children
are
more
than
three
times
the
national
average
facts
from
the
federal
government
proved
that
secondhand
smoke,
indoor
and
outdoor
causes
more
than
42
thousand
deaths
every
year
and
health
costs
for
non-fatal
secondhand
smoke
related
issues
exceed
5.6
billion
dollars.
Annually,
secondhand
smoke
kills
that's
a
fact.
Our
children's
access
to
tobacco
products
at
a
rate
triple
the
national
average
kills.
M
M
Actually,
the
opposite
occurs
in
virtually
every
instance
from,
for
example,
a
before-and-after
study
in
Beverly
Hills
to
other
studies
across
the
country
in
New,
York,
City
revenues
increased
eight
point:
seven
percent
one
year
after
implementation
of
their
smoking
ban.
Lexington
kentucky
found
no
negative
economic
impact
after
their
ban
went
into
effect.
Similar
reports
are
the
same
in
Colorado,
Massachusetts,
Minnesota,
Texas,
Washington,
State
and
others,
and
all
of
this
is
according
to
data
from
the
Centers
for
Disease
Control.
M
M
Initially,
Paul
and
I
took
this
proposed
ordinance
to
one
PS
for
their
consideration
and
following
several
months
of
in-depth
discussion,
1ps
felt
they
couldn't
assume
responsibility
for
the
ordinance
first
at
that
time,
because
we
were
not
represented
as
of
an
organized
neighborhood,
simply
private
citizens.
And
secondly,
the
executive
committee
suggested
that
the
ordinance
as
we
presented
it
would
be
better
handled
in
segments
and
subsequently
we
separated
the
TRP
which
Paul
presented
to
you
from
the
ordinance
and
now
the
TRP
is
moving
through
one
PS.
M
The
clean
air
and
regulation
of
smoking
and
tobacco
product
use
ordinance
that
we
are
proposing
was
presented
to
one
member
of
the
City
Council.
We
followed
his
advice
as
to
some
strategies
and
we
are
now
bringing
the
ordinance
to
the
sustainability
Commission
for
your
support
for
your
leadership
in
bringing
this
clean
air
proposal
to
reality
and
to
implementation.
M
We're
calling
on
the
sustainability
Commission
as
city
leaders
to
take
action
to
provide
this
essential
protection
by
pushing
for
a
comprehensive,
clean
air
non-smoking
public
policy
not
to
address
this
clean
air
issue.
I
believe,
is
morally
irresponsible.
You're
in
your
mission
statement
clearly
identifies
the
desire
for
promoting
healthy
planet
healthy.
You
events
annually
in
each
neighborhood
in
schools
and
creating
new
health
and
wellness
metrics.
There's
no
better
time
than
now.
To
take
that
next
step.
M
A
A
A
B
L
H
L
Surprisingly,
there's
a
lot
of
places
and
through
this
process
we
found
even
donut
shops,
sell
them,
surprised
us
and
we
are
talking
about
two
different
ordinances.
If
that's,
what
you
mean?
One
is
a
county
ordinance
which
is
a
TRP
which
exclusively
addresses
illegal
sales.
It's
very
much
like
the
decoy
program
that
exists
that
exists
already
and
for
alcohol,
so
liquor
stores
and
restaurants.
You
see
in
the
newspaper,
sometimes
how
they
get
caught
in
the
decoy,
stting
programs.
There
isn't
such
a
thing
and
look
for
tobacco
sales
unless
and
the
ordinance
is
adopted.
A
A
C
A
M
Put
it
in
less
than
a
year
ago,
and
it's
been
very
successful,
San
Diego
is
very
similar,
not
quite
as
extensive
as
Laguna
Santa.
Monica
is
also
along
the
same
lines:
the
City
of
Pasadena,
which
is
even
closer
to
us.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
Paul's
family
wrote
Paul
himself
helped
draft
the
no
smoking
and
multi-unit
housing
in
1980
in
Pasadena
and
and.
C
Is
are
there
any,
let's
see
like
tiered
approach,
for
example,
some
of
these
seem
really
easier
and
more
obvious
to
implement
others
longer.
Is
there
a
with
these
cities?
Do
you
have
these
ordinances?
Did
they
start
with?
Maybe
you
know
certain
spaces
and
then
move
out,
or
is
this
just
like
a
boom
BAM
January
1,
we're
done
you
know,
I
mean.
L
It's
a
personality
of
the
city
themselves.
Some
cities
adopt
quite
easily
and
others
it's
more
of
a
challenge
and
more
of
a
process.
But
there
are
many
cities
who
have
had
these
ordinances
for
a
long
time
and
and
to
compartmentalize
the
difference
between
the
trp
ordinance,
which
is
a
riverside
county
ordinance
and
the
proposed
smoke-free
ordinance
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
which
is,
by
the
way
already
been
written.
C
H
Own
property
in
multi-unit,
in
Santa,
Monica,
and
when
this
law
went
into
effect
four
or
five
years
ago,
it
was
caused
a
lot
of
consternation.
However,
I
lived
upstairs
and
I
had
a
fellow
person.
My
condo
lived
around
on
the
base
and
a
ground
floor
and
I
could
sit
in
my
room
and
smell
the
cigarette
smoke
swirling
away
to
the
front
of
the
building,
and
when
the
law
inspects,
she
was
effectively
barred
from
doing
that,
and
it
really
was
beneficial.
C
C
C
C
L
Differently
on
both
the
TRP
were
coming
to
you
for
an
endorsement.
That's
gonna
be
brought
forward
to
the
City
Council,
probably
through
the
ecology
committee.
That's
a
track.
It's
taking
now,
so
we're
gonna
be
looking
for
an
endorsement
of
that
and
with
the
city,
ordinance
we're
looking
for
your
participation
and
cooperation.
Perhaps
you'd
consider
an
ad
hoc
committee
that
could
focus
on
it
and
we
could
work
with
them.
A
So
this
evening
we
do
not
have
this
on
the
agenda,
so
it
is
not
appropriate
before
us
tonight
to
discuss
what
seems
to
me,
although
we
can
certainly
take
other
suggestions
of
the
wishes
of
the
Commission,
it
seems
as
if
Commissioner
Baker.
This
falls
squarely
hit
her
nude
in
health
and
wellness,
and
so
is
it
possible
that
I
could
consult
with
you
and
we
could
definitely.
A
A
M
Chairman,
if
I
might
please
I,
have
copies
of
the
ordinance.
I
have
two
copies
here:
I
believe
it
with
the
Commissioner
Baker
and,
at
the
same
time,
state
to
you
that
the
American
Lung
Association
received
recently
a
grant
in
about
a
million
and
a
half,
and
the
American
Cancer
Society
also
received
a
grant
for
about
a
million
and
a
half
dollars,
both
of
them,
focusing
on
no
smoking,
specifically
in
Palm
Springs,
one
for
the
LGBT
community
and
the
other
one
for
the
Native
American
community.
Where.
H
L
A
L
A
Okay,
okay,
perfect
and
we'll
we'll
see
if,
if
there
is
something
that
might
happen
on
the
agenda
in
an
upcoming
meeting,
so
thank
you
both.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Our
second
presenter
is
here
George's
sev
Wright,
who
is
with
the
Clean
Cities,
Coachella,
Valley,
and
so
Georgia.
Welcome
back.
We
heard
a
bit
from
you
last
month
and
we're
happy
to
hear
from
you
tonight.
I
I
Okay,
I'm
not
I'm,
not
quite
sure
how
many
people
are
familiar
with
the
Clean
Cities
program.
Is
there
any
way
I
could
ask
if
everybody
is
very
familiar
with
it
or
you're
not
familiar
with
it,
not
okay,
great
it's.
Why
I'm
here
today,
I
usually
will
work.
We
work
a
lot
with
them
before
with
Michelle
my
seed
and
we
put
out
a
lot
of
activities
together
and
I
know
we
have
a
new
group
and
I
wanted
to
kind
of
present
what
we
do
and
to
continue
to
work
with
Palm
Springs.
I
So
my
reason
for
being
here
today
in
the
first
part
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
what
cleans
the
result
for
us.
We
are
a
clean,
City,
Coachella,
Valley
region,
work
in
the
Coachella
Valley
area.
We
do
all
the
cities
and
the
the
all
the
surrounding
desert,
cities,
that's
or
a
program
focus
and
our
main
thing
is:
we
work
with
stakeholders
and
local
fleets
to
help
implement
alternative
fuel
vehicles.
This
includes
information
on
vehicles
and
funding
and
technical
aspects
of
that
trade
in
testing
safety
and
so
forth.
I
Our
Coalition
is
a
501
C,
3
tax
exempt
organization
and
before
I
go
into
the
National
Clean
Cities
program.
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
where
we
were
coming
from
in
1996
claims
that
the
Coachella
Valley
region
was
designated
by
the
Department
of
Energy,
vehicle
and
technology
program,
and
in
this
area
and
we've
been
functioning,
we've
been
in
this
area
from
1996
we
are
ug.
I
We
were
at
the
big
in
house
under
sunlight
transit
agency
and,
as
you
know,
sunlight
transit
agency
was
the
first
fleet
that
ever
turned
overnight
all
their
buses
parked
and
then
they
start
out
with
100%
of
all
their
buses
been
alternative
fuel
three
natural
gas.
Now
they
have
trying
to
no,
they
have
they
have
electric
buses,
they
have
hydrogen
buses
going
out.
They
have
fun,
then
they're
going
to
be
promoting
and
they're
going
to
be
putting
on
a
state-of-the-art
training
technology
facility
for
hydrogen.
So
they're
big,
you
know
we
go.
I
We
just
did
a
the
president
of
our
Corp
collagen.
We
just
went
to
a
meeting
at
Washington
DC
energy
summit
at
Washington
DC,
where
we
talked
to
Congress
leaders.
What
we
do
when
we
speak
with
Congress
leaders,
we
are
telling
them
what's
going
on
in
the
Coachella
Valley
region,
so
we
try
to
get
information
from
all
the
cities,
all
the
fleets
we
want
to
participate.
We
want
to
help
with
funding.
We
have
done
that
in
even
said
city
of
Desert
Hot
Springs.
I
We
have
worked
with
them
in
getting
funding
for
a
lot
of
their
electrical
vehicles
in
helping
with
infrastructure
development,
so
we're
there
ray
who
work
with
Palm
Springs.
All
in
all
the
cities-
Palm
Springs,
you
guys
are
a
leader
in
this
field
and
per
se
I
wanted
to
talk
with
you
today
and
get
you
more
familiar
with
what
we
do
so
on
the
next
one.
Is
there
why
Twin
Cities
Clean
Cities
is
a
program
within
the
US
Department
of
Energy
vehicle
technology
office?
I
The
the
do
a
program
collegio,
a
Department
of
Energy
mission,
is
to
ensure
the
United
States,
Security
and
Prosperity
of
address
in
energy,
environmental,
nuclear
challenges
through
transformation,
transformative,
transformative,
science
and
technology
solution.
So
I
know
I
only
have
10
10
minutes
or
maybe
less
than
that,
so
I'm
not
gonna,
go
deep
into
it
because
you
can
go
actually.
I
We
started
out
with
the
Energy
Policy
Act
of
1992.
This
program
came
through
from
that
program.
We
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emission
and
we've
done
1.3
million
passenger.
We
have
we've
reduced
and
you
know
the
amount
that
will
reduce
of
vehicles
that
are
actual
gasoline
vehicles
on
his
street
is
about
1.3
million
passenger
cars
passenger
cars
off
the
road
for
419.
My
stats
right
here
is,
but
for
2015
actually
and
reduce
dependence
on
imported
petroleum.
I
So
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
activities
to
do
with
the
portfolio,
whatever
a
main
thing
and
main
focuses,
replace,
reduce
and
eliminate,
replace
the
petroleum,
replacing
the
vehicles,
and
we
are
fuel
neutrals
and
not
only
do
we
do
electric
hydrogen
ethanol
and
all
these
other
things
we
we're
very
neutral
and
we
work
with
all
the
OEMs.
We
work
with
all
the
many
dealerships
adapt
these,
because
the
Coachella
Valley
have
a
lot
of
these
vehicles
in
their
dealership
they're
having
a
hard
time
getting
them
off
the
lot.
I
I
Okay,
I'll
go
faster,
okay,
so
so
it's
a
hundred
colleges,
but
mine
is
now
here
in
the
Coachella
Valley
region
and
I
really
wanted
to
kind
of
give
you
a
little
bit
more
heads
up
in
in
in
in
the
book
the
booklet
that
I
said
you
can
see
a
little
bit
of
the
glitters
and
stuff
I
put
a
little
bit
to
do
with
Ireland
reduction
a
little
bit
to
do
with
the
newsletter
we
have
websites.
We
have
yeah
we're
on
we're
rare
on
the
National
Clean
Cities
website.
I
If
you,
google,
double
double
dot,
Clean
Cities
com,
you
will
see
the
whole
thing
come
up,
just
just
everything
you
can
think
of
our
resources
for
getting
fleets
and
getting
cities.
We
did.
We
did
a
whole
big
thing
in
the
city
in
this
region
to
do
with
and
I
did
that
with
Michelle
when
we
were
started,
doing
alternative
fuel
vehicles
and
actually
the
campaign
of
promoting
cities
to
move
that
forward.
I
We
did
workshops
and
all
that
some
by
just
you
know
directly
just
us
local
partnership
and
we're
in
a
bit
a
lot
of
partners
to
do
it
to
do
with
national
partners,
and
you
will
see
a
lot
of
them
have
worked
with
Clean
Cities
in
helping
to
get
your
feet
to
either
using
propane
or
electric
or
sea
clean
natural
gas
or
liquid
natural
gas.
So
it's
a
lot
of
large
fleets
that
we're
using
and
that's
our
national
partnership
program
I
think
we
work
a
lot
with
FedEx
in
the
area.
I
There's
on
your
paper,
you
can
see
like
staples
we're
working
with
them
best
buy
all
these
large
entities
as
a
group
as
a
national
program
in
working
with
their
program
in
getting
your
fleets
and
getting
funded
and
what
clean
says
look.
We
are
we're
like
on
the
ground
here
in
kind
of.
Are
they
people
that
we
are
the
ones
I
will
talk
with
him
and
let
him
know
what's
going
in
area
and
what
we
do
do
help
in
getting
funding.
We've
done
a
lot
that
to
getting
funding
for
these
programs.
I
I
We're
work
with
college
of
the
desert
to
put
on
training
for
technicians
that
are
doing
clean,
natural
gas
or,
if
anything,
we
did
a
first
responder,
which
is
getting
first
responder
when
they
get
to
the
scene
of
an
accident
to
know
what
to
do
it's
different
when
you
have
to
deal
with
a
car.
This
is
their
electric
car,
a
hydrogen
car
or
a
car
that
they're
not
accustomed
to
we've
done
one.
I
We
have
to
of
actually
two
workshops
regarding
that
and
we
did
a
big
one
with
college
of
the
desert
and
we
would
love
to
do
another
one
within
the
city
to
do
with
first
responders
to
accident
scenes
when
you
use
an
alternative
fuel
vehicle
I
go
through
to
do
with
all
the
different
Recovery
Act
money
and
all
the
projects.
Clean
Cities
have
awarded
millions
of
dollars
in
projects,
and
they
do
they
do
regarding
alternative
fuel
vehicles
and
so
forth
so
naked.
I
The
dealerships
are
gonna,
be
out
there,
we're
gonna
put
in
all
those
cars.
So
it's
an
elderly
reduction.
We
talked
about
Odyssey,
which
is
a
national
alternative
fuel
day
that
is
nationally
known
all
around
it.
Almost
all
the
states
do
the
national
alternative
fuel
day.
When
fleets
come
out.
We
have
electric
vehicle
plug-in
day
that
we
wanted
to
promote.
I
Also
that's
a
national
that's
a
day
that
you
know
around
the
entire
United
States
we
do
and
we're
trying
to
get
your
funding
workshops
for
fleets,
community
members
and
so
forth,
so
mainly
organize
and
facilitate
fueling
technology,
specific
workshops
that
we
do
outreach
and
education
and
resource
roughly
its
citizens,
municipalities,
working
with
Congress
leaders
and
so
forth.
I
think
I
used
up
all
my
time
or
maybe
went
over
well.
A
B
I
C
I
And
I
usually
look
sure
your
year
and
see
what
you
had
scheduled
from
the
sustainability
department
for
activities.
I
would
like
to
be
involved
or
see
something
more
to
do
with
alternative
fuel
vehicles
and
infrastructure
and
high
technology
vehicles.
I
would
like
to
partner
or
work
with
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
to
either
do
an
idle
reduction
campaign,
which
is
you
know,
including
businesses
and
schools,
and
so
forth,
to.
I
What
you're
saying,
although
they
have
one
that's
there,
we
still
have
schools
that
have
parents
with
vehicles
that
just
sits
there
in
idle.
We,
you
know,
and
you
know,
and
it
may
be
private
buses
that
will,
you
know,
may
be
smaller
ones,
but
they're
still
there
in
there
idling
and
to
even
you
know
you
go
to
to
the
in-and-out,
burgers
or
anywhere
else
and
you'll
see
cars
going
through
their
idly
and
stopped
in
front
of
business
you're
acting.
I
So
it's
just
to
put
a
word
out
to
let
people
know
more
knowledgeable
of
what
it
it
is
that
shutting
off
your
car
and
it's
not
it's
actually
better,
because
a
lot
of
it's
just
not
knowing
why
people
just
like
okay,
shutting
out
my
car
and
turn
it
on
I'm
gonna
be
burning
more
gasoline
and
you
don't
so
it's
just
educating
the
public
to
let
them
know
and
given
our
resources
and
telling
them
about
it.
That
will
make
it
more
of
a
or
having
I.
Like
I
put
in
your
your
your
packet.
I
Just
a
little
things
live
it
idling.
We
have
stickers,
we
have
leaflets.
We
have
all
kinds
of
little
things
that
you
could
give
out
to
say:
stop
idling
hearing
things
go
on,
don't
angle
so
and
most
of
the
times
when
you
present
this
to
schools,
they
will
the
children
are
young
ones
with
their.
You
know,
high
school
elementary
or
middle
school
is
something
that
they
will
talk
with
your
parents,
they'll
say:
okay,
don't
idle
the
car.
I
Don't
do
this,
do
that
so
posters
that
we
could
make
put
up
in
schools
and
just
like
dad
to
put
that
out.
So
that's
the
idol
and
there's
a
whole
campaign
for
that.
You
know.
There's
letters
there
is
having
them
sign,
something
you
know
like
businesses,
you
know.
Are
people
to
sign
something
to
say:
I
promise
I
want
I
mean
a
whole
wealth
of
information
that
we
have
in
printed
material.
That's
already
printed,
so
you
wouldn't
cost
the
city
anything
for
putting
it
out
unless
they
want
to
make,
of
course,
their
own
activities.
I
Also
they
they
alternative
fuel
vehicle.
There's
like
a
couple
that
that
stands
out.
It's
obviously
which
is
a
national
fuel
day
that
is
all
over
the
United
States.
To
be
more
part
of
that
and
in
national
alternative
fuel
day,
it's
it's
a
day
when
we
bring
out
all
the
dealership
or
tell
them
all.
But
you
know,
sunlight
transit
agency
will
come
out
with
their
vehicles
and
have
it
ready.
We
have
different
all
the
vehicles
that
Palm
Springs,
you
guys
have
so
many
look
in
your
parking
lot.
I
You
have
your
special
designated
areas
for
our
vehicles
to
park.
You
guys
are
I've
done
so
much
with
getting
electric
vehicle
infrastructure.
Zin
and
you
know
CNG
thing
is
that
I
mean
infrastructure
is
down
there,
so
you
really
wanted
to
promote
that
and
that
is
promoted
nationally.
So
it's
gonna
be
on
the
news
it's
gonna
be
here.
They
put
out
a
big
magazine,
it
shows
it-
and
that
includes
us
when
we
put
these
things
on.
I
So
it's
a
national
thing
and
when
we
go
to
every
year
we
go
to
DC
and
we
talked
to
Congress
leaders
and
stuff
like
that.
We're
showing
them
and
presenting
them
here
is
what's
going
on
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
here's
what's
going
on
here
and
why
here
is
what's
going
on
here.
So
we
want
more
to
promote
within
the
cities
of
what
we're
doing,
because
we
might
be
doing
it,
but
it's
not
out
there.
So
we
want
to
get
through
to
doing
that.
I
Did
I
christian
okay,
so
the
two
days
would
be
the
national
alternative
fuel
date
and
then
in
September
it's
the
specific
to
electric
vehicle
that
one
is
and
that's
Eva
day
when
all
the
electric
vehicles
will
come
out.
They
might
do
different
cities
do
different
things,
so
it
depends
on
how
deep
you
want
to
get
into
it
might
be,
and.
I
Usually
it's
in
September.
Okay,
are
you
haven't
specific
date
yet
for
that?
But
it's
in
September,
okay,
when
you
have
the
national
you
could
have
like,
maybe
a
parade
or
the
cars
going
through
downtown
Palm
Springs
or
something
to
do
with
that
and
they're
all,
maybe
hi,
JJ
and
electric.
You
know
the
buses
Commissioner.
H
A
question
as
well:
yes,
two
questions.
The
first
one
is
on
idling
because
of
the
extreme
weather
conditions
we
face
here,
especially
in
the
summer
I,
would
find
parents
reluctant
not
to
sit
in
their
cars
with
the
air
conditioning
on
while
they're
waiting
for
their
children
to
come
out
of
school,
among
other
things,
just
because
it's
hot
you're
not
going
to
turn
the
ended
off
enroll
w.
Secondly,
for
the
vehicles
are
we
focusing
more
on
fleets
or
individuals?
It
seems
like
would
be
easier
to
approach
fleet
sales
rather
than
individual
sales
and.
I
In
your
Couric
on
that,
because
where
we
are
most
of
whatever
focuses
it
on,
if
it's
an
area,
especially
the
larger
fleets,
because
it's
like,
if
you
get
them
to
start
doing
it,
then
it
trickles
down
to
the
others
so
definitely
but
at
the
same
token,
we
want
to
communicate
this
today
when
we
do
large
community
events
to
the
normal,
the
person
that
might
just
want
to
buy
an
electric
car
and
what
it'll
hurt
more
about
it.
So
we
do
want
to
let
them
know.
You
know
if
you
need
to
get
an
electric
car.
I
H
Unanswered,
how
do
we
address
the
question,
which
is
definitely
present
here
even
today,
when
it's
cold,
if
you're
picking
up
your
kid
from
school
or
something-
and
you
do
have
to
wait,
five
minutes
or
whatever
I
I,
wouldn't
turn
my
car
off
and
just
sit
in
the
heat
it
was.
What
was,
how
was
the
solution
to
that
issue?.
I
And
that's
something
that,
because
we
have
other
campaigns
that
go
on
and
no
we
it's
a
little
bit
different
in
the
Coachella
Valley
in
this
area,
especially
because
of
the
heat
in
summertime
and
so
there's
something
that
we
could
address
and
usually
because
we're
so
national.
We
it's
something
that
we
put
out
other
coal
agents
to
say:
give
me
your
best
practices.
What
do
you
do
when
this
happens,
and
you
know
we're
getting
feedback
on
there?
I
My
thing
would
be:
are
they
gonna
turn
off
their
car
and
go
out
and
get
out
of
the
car
and
go
get
their
kids?
Maybe
not?
Maybe
they're
not
they're
not
going
to
do
that,
because
you're
hurried
in
the
car,
so
those
are
issues
and
challenges,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
even
with
alternative
fuel
vehicles
and
infrastructures
and
what
we
do.
I
We
want
to
hear
these
things
that
we
want
to
address
those
things
and
we
do
a
meet
and
every
month
with
do-e
and
we
bring
these
things
out,
so
we
have
others
in
them
in
the
program
that
will
say
okay.
This
is
what
this
city
have
tried,
and
this
is
what
this
city
is
done
to
work
in
that
you
know,
and
for
that
specific
thing,
but
yes,
that
is
a
challenge.
I
A
Right
I
think
we
need
to
move
along
on
our
agenda,
so
I
don't
see
any
other
commissioners
questions
at
the
moment.
Georgia.
Thank
you.
We
will
see
if
there
are
some
synergies
that
we
can
can
have
together
and
please
do
keep
in
touch
with
Dan
about
what's
going
on
with
Palm
Springs
and
we'll
see,
if
there's
some
connections
we
can
make.
Thank
you
thank.
I
A
A
F
B
Brief
this
evening
we
just
had
our
shredding
and
he
waste
event
this
past
Saturday.
It
was.
It
was
much
better
attended
than
the
one
we
had
prior.
There
was
at
Lisa
over
a
hundred
vehicles
that
came
through
and
just
as
background
the
city
currently
offers
for
shredding
and
e-waste
events
per
year,
where
the
residents
can
bring
their
sensitive
documents
or
their
bank
statements
and
tax
forms,
and
things
like
that
and
their
shred
on
the
spot,
and
it's
at
no
cost
to
the
residents.
B
They
offer
an
event
where
residents
can
bring
almost
any
material
that
they
want,
except
for
hazardous
waste
to
the
back
parking
lot
of
City
Hall
and
drop
it
off
for
free
the
week
prior
to
that,
residents
could
call
for
a
bulky
item
pick
up
at
their
curb,
so
they
don't
have
to
haul
it
in
on
a
Saturday
or
if
they're
not
able
to
so.
Our
next
event
will
be
held
in
conjunction
with
them
and
I
would
think
there
are.
Our
attendants
would
be
much
more
so
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
that.
B
K
I
received
a
comment
via
1ps
from
somebody
who
did
attend
the
event
and
suggested
that
he
at
least
when
he
went,
he
didn't
think
there
were
very
many
people.
So
he
suggested
that
we
coordinate
Daniel,
you
ordinate
with
the
nice
Goolsbee,
particularly
for
the
next
one,
so
that
she
publicizes
the
event
ahead
of
time
in
her
a
weekly
office
of
neighborhoods
report,
which
goes
off
to
all
of
the
neighborhoods
just
to
provide
some
additional
information
to.
Let
folks
know
that
it's
happening
and.
H
B
What
we've
done
in
the
past
and
I'm
not
sure
there
was
done
this
past
for
this
past
event,
but
usually
what
we
do
is.
We
include
a
flyer
in
Palm,
Springs,
disposals,
they're
kind
enough
to
include
it
in
their
muffler
they're,
try
monthly
quarterly
billing
and
that
usually
goes
out
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
went
out
this
time
or
not,
but
it
usually
announces
the
dates
and-
and
it
usually
has
other
information
about
recycling
and
solid
waste
and
such
involve
included
in
that
flyer.
The.
H
A
E
Thank
you.
We
received
word
from
the
city
manager's
office
that
he
will
not
be
able
to
attend
on
the
plan
date,
the
27th
Tuesday
and
what
they
proposed
as
alternatives
is
the
day
after
the
28th
of
February
or
Thursday
March
1st
sometime
after
3
p.m.
I
believe
515
seemed
to
work
with
the
group
or
sometime
after
that.
We
want
to
push
it
out
to
the
into
the
a
little
further
out
to
the
future.
At
this
point
in
time,
I.
A
B
E
B
A
B
K
I,
don't
know
for
that,
for
the
fact
that
I
did
per
I
have
a
personal
conflict
for
the
28th
and
while
it's
not
a
major
religious
holiday,
it
is
for
him
that
night
and
I'm
not
sure
that
there
would
be
any
overlap.
But
those
are
two
potential
and
I'm
going
to
the
Opera
instead
of
the
Megillah
reading.
But
anyway
those
are
two
potential
conflicts
for
the
28th,
so
I
personally
would
prefer
the
first
Oh
more
than
27
so
but
27th
is
possible.
So
is.
E
A
E
A
Might
be
working
persons
to
be
able
to
attend
does
5:15
still
make
sense
for
city
folks,
okay,
all
right!
So
it's
March
1st
at
5:15,
that
is
a
Thursday,
and
if
you
can
get
that
correction
out
to
city
staff
and
Dan,
if
there
are
some
old
volunteer
email
groups
that
you've
got
in
the
system
that
we
could
get
that
information
out
to
folks
who
might
have
been
sustainability,
office
volunteers.
That
would
be
great
yeah.
B
A
The
tree
or
on
the
stone
the
stone
near
the
tree.
Okay,
great!
Thank
you
all
right
anything
else.
There,
okay
item,
two
Commissioner
Futterman
is
ill
tonight.
She
did
want
you
to
know
that
she
is
going
planning
to
attend
assuming
she's
well,
the
event
in
Riverside,
which
would
is
being
sponsored
by
the
same
organization
that
could
sponsor
a
Film
Festival
here
and
she's
plan
to
attend
to
see
how
that
works
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
is
playing
to
Commissioner
gothy
or
is
going
to
attend
as
well.
E
F
Dan
has
put
together
a
really
good
draft
of
a
reef-blower
training
brochure
and
he's
distributed
it
to
Joe
and
me
for
comments.
Joe
has
made
some
comments
and
I
have
it
right
now,
I
started
working
on
it.
I
have
a
few
more
things
that
I'd
like
to
add
to
it,
but
I
think
the
next
step
would
be
to
take
it
to
Jeff
Coors,
who
is
now
our
liaison
for
the
Commission,
and
he
was
an
advocate
of
training
when,
when
the
whole
leaf
blower
issue
was
being
discussed
last
year
and
ultimately
David
Reddy.
F
A
F
A
A
F
Always
and
much
more
to
say,
we've
talked
about
this
for
the
last
couple
of
months.
I
believe
it
was
in
December
that
Christine
Hammond
first
came
and
spoke
to
us
about
the
milkweed
Harmonix
plan
and
initiative,
and
then
last
month
we
talk
more
specifically
about
the
mayor's
pledge
that
is
being
sponsored
by
the
National
Wildlife
Federation.
We
had
a
draft
of
the
of
a
request
to
mayor
moon
to
take
the
mayor's
pledge
for
the
city,
and
subsequently
we
did
a
little
bit
of
updating
to
the
draft.
F
I
think
we
have
a
little
bit
more
to
do
and
also
we
would
would
we've
made
a
we've
approached
some
councilmember
Coors
to
talk
to
him
about
it
and
to
get
his
advice
as
to
how
we
might
approach
the
mayor
to
get
him
to
accept
this,
and
perhaps
in
any
advice
on
the
wording
of
the
request
anyway.
So
what
we
have
tonight-
and
it
was
sent
to
you-
is
the
slightly
updated
version
of
the
request
to
mayor
moon,
and
we
have
the
motion
here
to
go
forward
and
request
that
he
take
the
pledge.
F
A
F
A
A
She
had
alerted
us
to
the
fact
that
there
was
a
would
be
a
request
for
an
advertising
budget
which
has
been
to
place
billboards
in
cooperation
with
Lamar
Advertising,
and
they
have
a
specific,
not-for-profit
rate
so
with
with
a
discounted
rate
and
a
second
space
for
free
that
it
added
up.
Jennifer
wants
you
to
know
that
one
billboard
would
cost
one
thousand
seven
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
for
one
month
which
she
would
propose
the
month
of
May,
which
would
be
then
you
know
immediately
before
the
event
or
the
possibility
of
two
billboards
for
$2,500.
A
A
C
E
Well,
look
into
that
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
how
the
banner
program
here
is
operated,
but
I
do
know.
Different
business
groups
use
the
vertical
banners,
and
so
the
ones
across
the
street
they
do
seem
to
have
certain
they're
used
for
promotions
of
this
type
and
it
may
be
with
our
recreational
park
department
I
believe
it
does
actually
manage
that.
So
we
will
look
into
that
further.
Okay,
good
good
question
and.
A
G
A
G
A
B
Beds
or
I
think
there's
20
did
okay,
there's
26
26,
okay,
there
I
do
have
at
least
four
different
people
with
using
about
six
or
seven
different
plots.
Now,
theoretically,
yeah,
okay
and
some
of
them
say
it's
a
mess.
Some
of
them
say
it
looks
great,
so
I
don't
know
we
did
fix
the
watering
problems.
At
one
point,
the
homeless
were
unwell,
pulling
out
the
timer
for
the
watering
and
using
the
electricity
for
their
own
use,
but
that
has
now
been
hardwired
so
that
they
can't
unplug
the
timer
for
the
watering.
B
A
Well
so,
who
owns
it?
Who
owns
that
project?
Do
we
own
it
as
a
commission?
It's
our
thing!
Okay,
all
right!
Well
that
answers
that
question;
okay,
it's
something
that
Michelle
used
to
sort
of
address
and
there
were
some
folks
who
who
were
interested
in
it
and
where
those
folks
are
I,
don't
know
at
this
point:
okay,
where.
G
A
B
G
A
G
G
A
C
A
C
A
I
suspect
that
I
mean
I
know
that
other
communities
I,
for
instance,
I,
know
that
Palm
Desert
has
a
waiting
list
of
people
who
want
to
use
their
community
gardens
because
their
plots
are
well-managed.
They
have
a
and,
and
maybe
they
have
a
higher
percentage
of
condo
dwellers
and
Palm
Desert
I'm,
not
sure.
But
you
you
can't
you
have
to
you-
have
to
wait
till
somebody
dies
in
Palm
Desert
in
order
to
get
a
community
of
one
of
the
garden
plots.
C
A
M
A
C
A
A
C
C
A
K
Okay,
so
you've
been
hearing
for
the
last
couple
of
months
about
our
modernism
and
sustainability
workshop
during
modernism
week,
and
it
actually
occurred
this
past
Sunday
afternoon
and
thanks
to
did
to
Daniel,
also
Vice
Chair
Clark
for
their
great
assistance
in
Commissioner
Coins
absence
I
moderated
the
panel
using
some
of
the
materials
he
prepared
and
also
had
prepared.
The
brochure
before
you
which
we
gave
to
everyone-
oh
yeah,
Clark
handed
out
to
everyone
and
it's
a
sort
of
a
guide
to
what
I
did
when
I
renovated
my
house
sustainably.
K
So
we
had
about
75
people
attend
which,
out
of
a
room
that
did
feed
a
hundred
and
fifty
we
quote/unquote
sold
all
of
the
tickets.
They
were
all
reserved
several
weeks
before
and
discussion
that
we'll
have
at
our
committee
meeting
this
coming.
Wednesday
I
would
mean
Monday
afternoon
is:
if
we
do
this
again,
should
we
charge,
because
perhaps
people
felt
that
since
they
didn't
pay
for
it,
they
didn't
mind
skipping
it.
Maybe
if
they
had
paid
ten
dollars,
they
might
have
actually
shown
up.
So
we
have
to
talk
about
that.
K
So
we're
meeting
as
I
said
on
Monday
to
debrief
and
discuss
next
steps,
one
that
sort
of
already
on
the
agenda
is
first
of
all,
to
see.
If
we
can
take
this
brochure.
First
of
all,
Daniel
will
be
posting
everything
on
the
website
but
see
if
we
can
make
this
into
something
that
you
know
we
do
as
an
actual
formal
handout
to
folks
and
have
for
all
of
our
events
like
the
Commission's
brochures.
K
Excuse
me
and
then,
subsequent
to
the
right
after
the
workshop
I
was
approached
by
Dick
Burkett
who's,
the
unfazed
chair
of
this
or
excite
preference
Bayesian
board.
As
you
may
know,
they
have
their
annual
preservation
workshop
seminar
in
generally
some
Saturday
in
May,
and
he
asked
that
perhaps
we
could
do
this
as
one
of
the
sessions
during
the
annual
HSB
B
seminar.
So
I
think
that
would
be
really
good.
K
Give
more
visibility
to
our
Commission
and
I
know
it
does
fulfill
one
of
our
goals
of
sort
of
working
closely
with
some
of
the
other
boards
and
commissions.
So
I'll.
Take
that
up
with
a
commissioner
going
set
our
meeting
when's
that
next
Monday,
sorry
and
we'll
probably
follow
up
but
I
think
that's
a
really
good
next
step
to
work
with
HSP
B
for
their
I.
Have
a
quick
solar
comment
for
their
any
sort
of
questions
on
the
on
the
workshop?
K
Okay,
all
right
on
solar!
You
have
in
your
agenda
packet
in
two
pieces.
The
solar
resolution
that
I
mentioned
last
month,
I
was
passed
by
City
Council,
it's
January
third
meeting,
just
as
sort
of
a
guide
to
the
documents.
They're.
The
two
pieces
are
not
necessarily
right.
There's
the
resolution,
which
was
sort
of
a
whole
bunch
of
where
as
clauses
and
that
was
not
changed.
However,
there
were
from
the
floor
some
fine,
some
changes
proposed
by
councilmember
Middleton,
based
on
language
that
I
sent
her.
So
the
actual
resolution
policy
statement
adopt.
K
So
perhaps
we
get
a
little
plaque
out
of
it.
So
at
least
for
the
moment,
I
think
that's
it
for
solar
all
sort
of
update.
If
anything
comes
along
and
obviously
working
closely
with
councilmember
Coors,
we
can
discuss
potentially
the
next
step,
which
would
be
residential
retrofits,
but
that's
not
on
the
current
agenda.
So
I
probably
won't
be
saying
too
much
about
solar
for
the
next
couple
of
months.
A
You
should
know
that
Commissioner
Friedman
was
the
primary
author
of
a
Friday
February,
2nd
column
and
the
Desert
Sun,
which
gave
a
lot
of
good
information
about
the
sustainability
Commission
and
what
was
going
on
current
projects
that
we
have
and
promoted
the
modernism
event,
and
it
also
promoted
our
a
waste
event
that
was
noted
in
that
article.
So
so
thank
you
to
David
Friedman,
all
right.
We
are
at
the
Standing
Committee
on
wastage
reduction.
Commissioners
can
and
Clark.
A
B
Couple
of
housekeeping
issues:
first,
at
our
January
22nd
meeting,
we
welcome
Jessica
spry
here
as
our
newest
member
of
the
waste
reduction
subcommittee.
So
welcome
Jessica,
and
thank
you
for
your
participation.
Our
next
meeting
is
this:
coming
Monday
the
26th
at
2
p.m.
and
all
are
invited
to
attend
who
who
might
have
an
interest?
Okay,
what's
been
going
on
the
February
7th
at
the
bimonthly
public
meeting
of
the
Palm
Spring
City
Council
I
presented
two
minute
argument
to
commissioners
for
the
CED
ordinance.
B
That's
on
the
table
right
now,
I
was
stopped
very
appropriately
by
mer-moon,
with
about
four
or
five
words
left,
but
nevertheless,
council
members
voted
unanimously
to
move
forward
in
developing
the
ordinance
and
councilmembers
Lisa
Middleton
and
jr.
Roberts
were
assigned
to
a
subcommittee
to
work
on
development.
We
have
three
other
items:
household
battery,
recycling,
reducing
polystyrene
takeout
containers
for
restaurants
and
probably
beverage
recycling
containers
and
I'm
gonna
hand
the
floor
over
to
vice
chairman
Clarke,
to
discuss
those
in
just.
F
One
thing
to
add
above
the
C
and
D
ordinance,
I
did
to
communicate
with
councilmembers,
Roberts
and
Middleton,
saying
stating
that
we
would
be
available
to
provide
them
any
background
information
you
know
when
and
if
they
needed
it
see.
The
first
thing
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
the
household
household
battery
recycling
I
did
put
it
put
together.
A
plan
updated
the
plan
that
actually
presented
several
months
ago
on
battery
recycling
and
I'd
like
to
go
through
that
briefly.
Hopefully,
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
ahead
of
time.
F
What
we've
been
talking
about
in
the
waste
reduction
committee
for
several
months
is
a
is
developing
a
network
of
drop-off
points
in
Palm
Springs,
where
residents
can
build,
bring
old,
hustle
old
household
batteries
for
recycling,
and
then
we
would
provide
collection
containers
at
the
drop-off
points.
We
would
identify
a
hauler
to
pick
up
the
batteries
and
ensure
that
they
are
recycled.
We
would
also
produce
and
distribute
bags,
which
would
have
our
sustainability,
sustainable
city
logo
on
for
residents
to
have
at
home
to
collect
use
batteries
and
carry
them
to
the
drop-off
points.
F
So
the
plan
that
I'm
presenting
tonight,
which
we
talked
about
in
our
committee,
is
based
upon
using
one
particular
recycler,
and
that
is
battery
solutions
whose
located
in
how
Michigan
I've
talked
about
them
before
they
sell
collection
containers
that
can
be
placed
at
drop-off
points
and
postage-paid
containers
for
shipping.
If
you
just
skip
to
the
second
chart
quickly,
the
the
container
on
the
left
not
to
scale
is
a
36
inch
tall
collection
container
that
we
would
purchase.
F
We
could
put
our
logo
on
it
and
any
other
information
that
we
wanted,
but
that
would
be
located
at
the
places
that
we
have
confirmed
as
drop-off
points
for
batteries
and
it
will
hold
up
to
55
pounds
of
batteries
going
along
with
that
on.
The
right
is
a
shipping
container
that
holds
55
pounds
of
batteries
and
it's
postage-paid.
F
So
we
like
the
cost
to
submit
that
I
put
together,
is
based
upon
eight
drop-off
points
in
Palm
Springs.
Initially,
our
concept
was
to
food
retail
stores
as
drop-off
points,
particularly
stores
that
sell
batteries.
Thinking
that
when
people
go
to
buy
new
batteries,
they
be
reminded
to
drop
off
there.
There
are
old
batteries.
The
news
batteries
rob
has
been
doing
some
investigation
on
that
and
has
discovered
there's
it's
gotten
a
little
bit
of
pushback
on
that,
but
apparently
there's
some
county
ordinances
about
hazardous
materials
and
stores
and
so
forth.
F
So
we'd
have
to
figure
out
how
to
work
around
that,
and
we
do
have
a
plan
to
address
that.
But
the
suggestion
right
now
is
that
we
just
have
drop-off
points
in
in
Palm,
Springs,
city
facilities
and
well.
The
estimate
is
based
upon
is
having
a
drop-off
point
at
City
Hall,
the
for
open
fire
stations.
Now
the
library,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
which
is
not
a
city
facility
but
works
with
the
city
and
two
other
ones
which
I've
been
thinking
about
but
really
haven't
investigated.
F
Part
of
our
plan
also
would
be
to
have
these
drop-off
locations
geographically
dispersed.
So
people
wouldn't
have
to
go
too
far
from
where
they
live
in
order
to
drop
off
the
batteries
and
I
think
the
city
facilities
would
meet
that
and
adding
grocery
stores
and
hardware
stores
would
would
even
add
to
the
dispersion
and
the
number
of
potential
drop-off
points.
F
The
the
estimate
is
based
on
recycling
1,000
to
2,000
pounds
of
batteries
per
year
and
that
information
I
got
from
talking
to
the
city
of
Indio,
or
they
currently
have
a
battery
recycling
project
with
battery
solutions
and
in
Indio
in
2015
their
first
year
they
recycled
fourteen
hundred
pounds
of
batteries
in
2016.
They
recycled
1700
pounds
of
batteries,
so
India's
about
twice
as
big
as
permanent
with
permanent
population
as
Palm
Springs,
so
I
think
as
a
starting
point,
estimated
based
on
a
thousand
to
2,000
pounds
of
batteries
per
year.
F
F
In
other
words,
are
we
gonna
go
with
battery
solutions
or
go
another
way,
confirm
the
drop-off
points
and
then
by
May
design
and
produce
collection,
containers
for
the
drop-off
points
and
bags
for
residents
and
Dan
did
give
me
some
information
about
bags
as
well,
and
those
were
included
in
the
cost
estimate
and,
hopefully
start.
The
recycling
program
in
publicity
are
not
reached
by
by
June
on
the
last
chart.
F
I
do
include
the
estimated
cost
and
there's
an
on
report
non-recurring
part
of
the
cost,
something
that's
would
be
done
one
time
not
yearly
that
one
one
part
of
that
is
the
plastic
bags.
Although
the
estimate
is
based
upon
purchasing
ten
thousand
bags,
which
we
would
get
printing
on
again,
we
could
probably
put
on
the
bags
the
location
where
of
the
drop-off
points.
F
So
you
know
people
would
know
where
to
bring
their
batteries,
but
it's
the
bags
are
not
exactly
non-recurring
because
after
we
used
up
the
ten
thousand,
we
probably
would
want
some
more
but
I.
Don't
think
we'd
be
spending
a
lot
on
bags
that
for
the
first
few
years
or
ever
after
the
first
year
for
a
couple
of
years
and
then
the
collection
containers,
eight
of
them
there
accountant,
n
dollars,
apiece
and
then
publicity
and
outreach.
We
would
want
to
include
that
the
recurring
cost
would
be
the
shipping
containers.
F
And
then
we
would
also
have
some
staff
time
required
for
publicity
and
outreach,
publish
which
the
the
committee
would
work
with
Dan.
On
that
see
the
some
other
point
that
I
forgot
Oh,
even
though
we
right
now
we're
not
looking
at
locating
the
drop-off
containers
at
retail
stores.
Although
we
may
get
over
that
hurdle
quickly,
we
could
still
put
out
the
bags
at
retail
stores
so
right
near
where
they
sell
batteries.
F
H
F
We
were
tackling,
we
would
have
to
buy
additional
containers
once
once.
We've
used
them
up,
but
the
reason
that
we
have
to
pay
is
because
the
market
for
the
materials,
the
raw
materials
that
are
obtained
from
breaking
down
the
batteries,
is
very
small.
They
don't
get
much
money
for
for
those
materials
they
get
steel
which
can
be
young
uses
or
raw
material.
A
E
F
F
We
will
investigate
at
least
one
other
company,
but
we'd
like
this,
on
the
agenda
for
for
Monday
and
actually,
if
you
could
be
there
to
perhaps
help
us
with
some
of
the
city
or
legal
issues
that
we
might
have
to
overcome.
That
would
be
great,
and
one
thing
that
we
learned
late
this
afternoon
is
that
that
that
there
is
money
available,
grant
money
available
for
projects
such
as
this
by
Cal,
recycle
and
so
hopefully
we'll.
We
should
be
able
to
discuss
that
at
this
at
a
community
meeting
on
Monday.
E
F
Actually,
I
have
a
I've
contacted
a
project
manager
at
battery
solutions
and
I
have
a
telecon
plan
with
her
on
Thursday
she's,
an
Account
Manager.
Actually,
so
she
sets
up
these
projects
for
various
cities
all
over
the
country
and
I
I'm,
going
to
ask
her
specifically
about
California
or
counties
in
California
and
how
perhaps
that
obstacle
could
be
overcome
so
that
that
may
help
us
as
well.
You.
A
A
B
C
I'm,
sorry,
if
I
remember
correctly,
they
just
wanted
us
to
give
them
a
waiver.
I
mean
they
said
they'd
be
willing
to
do
it
just
give
them
a
waiver
that
says
you
will
not
be
subject
to
the
hazardous
waste.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
a
paperwork
permission
thing
as
opposed
to
their
desire
or
any
real
big
hassle.
So
if
it's
not
a
big
deal
to
just
pass
over
an
ordinance,
then
it's
not
an
issue,
but.
F
C
F
We'll
work
that
yes
well,
we
need
to
work.
That
is
that
up
for
batteries
and
more
questions
comments.
The
next
topic
is
the
polystyrene
or
styrofoam
food,
takeout,
containers
and
I
think
this
goes
back
to
our
November
December
meeting,
where
we
got
a
letter
from
forwarded.
F
Councilmember
robbers
forwarded
a
letter
from
state
senator
Ben
Allen
who
who's
in
a
district
in
LA
County,
and
they
were
a
couple
of
things
that
he
was
asking
and
councilmember
Roberts
referred
to
us.
One
was
for
the
city
to
take
a
position
on
state
legislation
to
phase
out
the
use
of
polystyrene
foam
in
food
takeout
containers,
and
the
second
thing
was
in
addition
to
that
to
take
local
actions
with
regard
to
facing
all
styrofoam
food.
Takeout
containers
I
contacted
councilmember
Roberts
about
that
time.
F
To
talk
to
him
more
specifically
about
the
first
item,
where
the
city
would
take
a
position
on
the
state
legislation,
it's
like
I
felt
that
wasn't
something
that
the
Commission
of
the
waste
reduction
committee
could
do,
or
we
felt
that
and
I
did
talk
to
him
this
this
past
week
about
it.
The
other
part
of
it
is
I,
did
contact
senator
Allen's
office
and
quested
some
information
about
local
ordinances
in
other
cities,
or
templates
for
ordinances
for
phasing
out
styrofoam
food
containers,
I
haven't
heard
back
from
them,
but
I'll
contact
them
again.
F
You
know
facing
out
the
containers
and
he
had
several
points
that
home
that
he
made
one
was
that
we
should
look
at
other
cities
and
see
what
ordinances
they
have
and
that's
something
that,
since
it's
been
referred
to
the
waste
reduction
committee,
we
can
we
can
talk
about
next
week.
I
have
been
told
that
Portland
Oregon,
Oregon
and
Eugene
Oregon
do
have
such
ordinances,
so
those
might
be
a
good
place
to
start.
F
Also,
we
would
have
to
do
some
research
on
the
alternatives
to
the
Styrofoam
containers.
I
know
some
places
use
papers
and
but
that's
something
that
we'd
have
to
have
more
information
about
as
well
and
he
encourages
encouraged
us
together
at
that
information.
This
also
has
been
discussed
with
councilmember
Christi
hosts,
holstege
and
she's
very
much
in
support
of
it
as
well.
F
These
are
at
the
airport
two
different
types:
obvi,
don't
they're
not
designated
as
trash
or
recycling
containers.
They
are
just
containers
with
big
openings,
a
couple
places
in
the
airport.
They
have
setups
like
this,
where
there
are
several
different
containers
side
by
side
designated
what
goes
into
those
various
various
containers.
That
looks
pretty
good.
You
know.
One
thing
that
we
need
to
investigate
as
well
is:
are
people
putting
the
right
things
in
the
containers
and
is
recycling
going
on
or
when
the
containers
are
emptied?
F
F
F
You
know
it's
it's
hard
to
read
on
that
one,
but
then
in
the
next
chart,
there's
two
more
right
next
to
what's
out
there,
that
one
says
plastic
and
the
other
one
says
white
copy
paper,
but
these
are
clearly
in
public
areas
of
City
Hall
order.
People
come
here
from
meetings
and
so
forth,
so
those
containers
are
available
to
the
public.
F
These
are
outside
the
building
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
actually
near
where
Michelle's
office
used
to
be,
and
these
specifically
do
specify
what
can
be
recycled
in
the
container
to
the
forward
in
the
end
of
picture
cans,
bottles
having
a
hard
time
reading
a
paper.
Okay,
so
that's
clearly
a
recycling
container
and
it
specifies
what
can
go
in
there
and
then
in
a
couple
of
places
around
City
Hall,
the
one
on
the
left
is
outside
the
Chamber's
council
chambers
and
the
the
one
is
outside.
The
main
entrance
containers
like
this.
F
Downtown
I
just
have
a
couple:
I
happen
to
be
down.
This
is
right
near
the
new
Starbucks,
very
modern-looking
stylized
container,
that
has
a
side
for
recycling
and
at
the
side
for
litter
and
the
next
one
is
one
of
many
downtown
that
looks
like
the
ones
at
City
Hall
and
at
the
airport,
we're
not
specified
what
goes
in
there,
but
probably
trash
and
recycling.
It
will
we'll
take
more
of
a
look
downtown.
F
Thought
I've
seen
two
of
those
in
that
area.
This
one
was
closest
to
Starbucks,
okay
and
then
other
locations.
This
is
one
that
Christine
sent
to
me.
This
is
actually
relevant
to
something
that's
coming
up.
This
is
at
some
restaurant,
where
food
wastes
go
on
the
left
and
other
materials
for
recycling
go
on
the
right,
so
that
one's
just
a
good
example
of
clear
labeling
and
that
maybe
will
be
relevant
when
the
the
organic
waste.
F
Updated
ordinance
kicks
in
next
year,
then,
just
a
couple
more.
The
one
on
the
left
I
saw
at
an
event
in
Rancho
Mirage
on
Saturday,
that's
provided
by
Burrtec,
which
is
the
contractor
for
trash
and
recycling
in
Rancho
Mirage.
That's
very
good
temporary
container
for
events
that
has
a
small
hole
in
the
top
and
says
just
bottles
and
cans
that
one
was
I
saw
Sunday
it
at
camp.
During
the
the
panel
discussion
that
that
David
was
talking
about
earlier.
F
Clearly
it
doesn't
say
bottles,
but
it's
plastic,
and
it
has
a
small
hole,
so
it
doesn't
differentiate
between
small
things
and
recycling
other
things.
So
this
is
really
just
to
give
an
overview
of
the
wide
variety
of
containers
that
can
be
found
around
the
city,
we'll
be
looking
at
more
and
a
committee
will
be
making
some
having
a
discussion
to
making
some
recommendations
about
what
what
we
ought
to
do
with
the
grant
money.
That's
available
any
comments
or
questions.
G
Those
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
talk
about
with
my
principal
when
I
met
with
him,
because
I
don't
think,
there's
a
specific
recycling
program
that
place
in
my
in
my
school
and
I
see
a
lot
of
people
just
throw
things
in
the
trash
because
there's
not
a
recycling
bin.
Some
of
the
teachers
have
recycling
bins,
but
some
of
them
don't
and
I.
J
F
F
They
have
a
big
dumpster
for
trash,
but
they
don't
have
a
dumpster
for
recycling,
so
they
don't
even
do
recycling
there
and
in
fact,
in
fact
they
don't
have
room
for
a
dumpster
for
recycling
materials.
So
that's
something
she
said
she
would
talk
to
the
Camelot
management
about,
but
that
might
be
another
place
like
the
high
school,
where
we
could.
You
know
work
one
place
at
a
time
and
and
move
forward
with
with
with
regard
to
recycling,
but
especially
the
farmers
market.
F
F
B
B
A
K
A
A
A
E
A
B
B
C
A
Authorizing
them
to
make
a
decision,
which
would
then
be
referred
to
the
city
manager's
office
for
final
approval.
All
right
is
there
a
second
second
from
Commissioner
Friedman.
Now
we'll
have
a
discussion
on
not
the
topic,
but
on
authorizing
the
waste
reduction
committee
to
make
this
decision
is
there
discussion
and
anybody
can
discuss.
Did
you
want
to
say
something
commissioned
again?
A
A
D
I
did
want
to
make
a
comment
for
Dara's
benefit,
just
that
I'm
not
familiar
with
PSU
SD
policy,
but
I
am
familiar
with
another
school
district
and
they
have
a
stipulation
their
custodial
staff
contract
that
precludes
them
having
to
separate
the
the
waste
the
recycling
from
general
waste.
So
you
might
check
their
that
situation
to
see
if
they
have
any
sort
of
stipulation
there,
because
they
they
may
not
have
to
separate
the
waste
when
they
could.
A
G
C
B
Excuse
me
I,
don't
think
their
costs
would
go
up
significantly,
and
my
experience
has
been
to
Palm.
Springs
disposal
was
pretty
easy
to
work
with.
I.
Think
we're
the
where
the
issue
may
lie
is
with
the
school,
because
I
think
Palm
Springs
disposal
would
be
willing
to
put
a
3-yard
been
out
there
and
collected
once
or
twice
a
week,
whatever
is
getting
the
material
to
the
bin.
This
is
what
the
issue
is.
I
believe.
A
J
A
A
D
Just
that
well,
as
mr.
Gauthier
just
mentioned,
without
the
microphone
on
wait,
essentially
don't
have
anything
to
report.
I
did
speak
to
mr.
Garcia
I
guess
about
two
weeks
ago,
and
he
indicated
that
there
is
essentially
no
request
of
the
Commission
at
this
stage
regarding
the
safe
routes
to
school
grant,
probably
won't
be
for
some
time.
D
D
He
mentioned
the
issue
of
the
term.
Road
diet
and
I
had
pitched
a
request
to
some
city
staff
and,
in
my
request,
I
I
did
mention
that
term.
In
my
subject
line
and
a
term
that
I
prefer
its
capacity
improvement
project
rather
than
Road
diet,
because
Road
diet
tends
to
get
the
goat
of
people
who
are
more
focused
on
the
automobile.
D
Whereas
capacity
improvement
project
really
gets
to
the
issue
of
thinking
in
terms
of
Complete
Streets
it.
It
lends
itself
more
to
the
pedestrian
experience,
as
well
as
the
bicyclists
experience
and
in
this
case,
because
you're
not
really
constraining
capacity
of
the
the
automobile,
because
there's
plenty
of
capacity
left
for
the
yellow
automobile
driver.
Then
you're
really
improving
capacity
for
at
least
accommodating
capacity
for
the
auto
driver
as
well.
So
just
a
thought
and.
A
Just
for
the
record,
we
I
did,
as
chair,
receive
a
email
from
former
chair
Brett
Klein
and
former
commissioners
Vick
Capello
and
Nancy
Ferguson,
offering
to
help
the
Commission
in
working
on
the
Luverne
route
issue
and
some
other
bike
issues.
But
it
seems
to
me
that
what
I
heard
from
director
Garcia
is
that
really
it
that
trains
pretty
far
down
the
track,
and
we
just
need
to
get
information
right
now
to
his
office
and
we
need
citizens,
particularly
citizens
of
the
neighborhoods,
to
speak
any
appropriate
feedback.
A
And
so
it
seems
to
me
that
I
mean
this
was
a
recommendation
from
active
transportation
some
time
ago,
as
part
of
our
plans,
so
I'm
thinking
that
I
could
work
on
a
draft
of
something
and
consult
with
Commissioner
Friedman.
As
someone
in
the
neighborhood
and
consult
with
the
folks
who
are
tangentially
involved
in
transportation,
at
least
for
review
of
a
document
that
would
be
commissioners,
Wilson
and
gothy,
or
to
have
a
letter
that
we
would
send
to
director
Garcia
on
our
behalf.
That
would
support
our
plan
as
it
exists.
A
K
I
wala
director
Percy,
was
speaking.
I
did
look
at
the
council.
The
staff
report
for
when
this
came
up
at
Council
and
the
bid
deadline
is
April.
Although
the
data
which
council
will
consider
the
submitted
bids
is
April
4th
the
first
meeting
in
April,
so
I
would
suggest
that
that's
essentially
our
deadline
that
this
needs
to
get
to
council
sufficiently
in
advance
and
perhaps
even
a
few
days
earlier.
So
our
letter
could
be
included
in
the
staff
report.
Ok,
so
I
guess
that
would
be
what
the
31st
or
something
whatever
day.
That
is.
A
K
F
One
thing
to
add
my
understanding
of
their
request,
though,
is
that
they
they
wanted
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
rationale
for
including
Laverne
without
the
other
three
streets
that
were
approved
for
Road
diets
back
in
2016
I
think
there
were
several
more
candidate
streets
for
Road
diets
and
the
active
Transportation
Committee
met
specifically
with
council
members,
Roberts
and
Coors
about
that,
and
they
narrowed
it
down
to
those
four
streets.
Okay,.
F
A
F
K
I
think
the
point
was
that,
although
this
was
decided
in
2016,
when
it
last
came
up
that
originally
the
loop
was
to
include
South
Palm
Canyon,
that
was
taken
off
of
the
list
in
2016,
and
so
the
question
was,
although
I
thought
that
discussion
had
occurred,
that
should
we
still
do
City?
Should
the
city
still
do
Laverne
if
South
Palm
Canyon
is
no
longer
be
going
to
essentially
close
the
loop,
but
my
recollection
of
discussion
at
that
time
was
that
Laverne
was
going
to
remain
and
it's
now
once
again
become
controversial.
K
It
was
supposed
to
be
well
we'll
do
Laverne,
but
not
southbound,
Canyon
and
now
Laverne
is
potentially
also
on
on
the
chopping
block.
What
I
have
in
my
materials,
cuz
I
haven't
said
I've
been
working
on
this
for
quite
a
few
years.
Is
the
staff
reports
for
2016
as
well
and
and
can
do
that,
I'm
happy
to
sit
down
with
you
and
and
the
Commissioner
Wilson
and
director
Garcia
just
to
provide
any
additional
background?
Okay,.
A
K
Very
quickly,
CWA
discussed
that
there
morning,
meaning
that
the
January
conservation
level,
the
reduction
from
the
2013
baseline,
was
only
six
and
a
quarter
percent
in
December
it
was
seven
percent.
Both
of
those
figures
are
below
their
target
conservation
of
ten
13%
and
they
said
well,
it's
probably
because
the
warm
a
little
bit
both
months
were
warm
and
and
and
dry
compared
with
potentially
on
the
on
the
benchmark.
But
I
will
follow
up
with
them.
Ashley
Metzger.
K
She
wasn't
in
the
office
today,
because
if
there's
also
February
when
it's
less
warm,
then
there's
clearly
I
think
more
outreach
that
we
need
to
be
doing
to
work
with
the
W.
A
to
let
folks
know
that
we
are
probably
back
in
a
drought
and
they
need
to
conserve.
I
did
read
I
believe
last
week
in
the
LA
Times
that
in
fact,
there's
backsliding
and
that
the
conservation
is
far
below
where
it
was
a
year
or
so
ago,
and
the
rain
is
not
coming
this
year.
So
there's
I'll
be
following
up
on
that.
A
That's
it
questions
of
Commissioner
Friedman
Commissioner
comments,
any
comments,
I
think
we
all
did
get
a
notice
that
the
CV
Link
dedication
is
this
Friday
10:00
a.m.
just
east
of
the
intersection
of
gene
autry
and
Vista
Chino,
just
east
of
the
escena
entrance.
So
if
you're
interested
in
being
a
part
of
that
first
link
of
the
CV
link
10
o'clock
on
Friday,
anything
else
is
there
a
motion
that
we
adjourn
until
our
next
meeting
on
Tuesday
March
20th.
So.