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From YouTube: Planning Commssion | Oct 12 2022
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Regular meeting of the Palm Springs Planning Commission, held October 12th 2022
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A
Thank
you.
Now
we
are
at
public
moments.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Planning
Commission
on
consent,
calendar
and
other
items
general
interest
in
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission.
Please
note
that
the
Planning
Commission
cannot
take
action
on
items
not
posted
on
our
agenda.
Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes.
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E
It's
a
very
dangerous
U-turn
that
people
are
making
constantly
and
these
two
exits
both
enter
exit
into
Indian
Avenue.
It
is
our
only
egress
out
of
this
entire
development.
Right
now
there
is,
if
there's
a
emergency
accident
whatever
on
Indian
Avenue
and
it's
closed.
We
have
literally
no
way
out
of
the
development
here.
There
is
an
existing
road
that
is
planned
or
an
existing
gate.
That's
planned
off
of
Avenida
Caballeros,
and
that
is
right
in
the
center
of
development
that
road
and
curb
is
in
completely
at
this
time.
E
The
only
thing
it's
jaded
off,
it's
fenced
off
at
the
development
line.
That
is
a
planned
future
gate
and
most
of
the
development
that's
built.
Now
the
Navy,
the
residents
live
very
close
proximity
to
that
future
gate.
The
developer
is
putting
that
development
of
that
gate
on
a
on
the
back
burner
at
this
time,
and
it's
probably
looking
like
years
before
they're
going
to
proceed
with
it.
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A
The
motion
passes
unanimously
with
two
abstentions:
okay,
moving
right:
along
to
the
first
item,
item
2B
12
at
Las,
Palmas
LLC,
previously
yokang
Xiao
for
a
conditional
use,
permit
major
development
permit
and
tentative
track
map
to
construct
a
12-unit,
multiple,
multiple
family,
residential
development
consisting
of
four
sale
condos
on
a
0.95
Acre
Site
located
at
1424
Camino
Norte.
Can
we
have
a
staff
report?
Please?
Yes,.
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H
What
about
now
perfect?
Okay,
all
right
once
again!
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
Planning
Commission.
So
the
item
you
have
before
you
now
consists
of
three
different
types
of
application,
and
it
is
for
the
construction
of
12
multi-family
residential
units
at
a
and
currently
undeveloped
household,
that
is
located
on
North,
Palm,
Kenya
and
Stevens
Road.
H
So
again,
what
is
before
you?
The
scope
of
your
review
tonight?
Is
the
development
permit
and
then
the
cup
and,
of
course,
the
alternative
track
map
for
the
development
of
this
proposal,
the
architectural
design,
the
review,
the
ETC
review
and
the
design
colors
and
material,
and
then
the
Landscaping
will
be
presented
to
the
arc
for
final
review
and
approval.
H
So
the
type
of
development
that
is
being
proposed
will
range
in
size
from
2200
to
2700
square
foot,
and
then
the
mass
and
scale
will
consist
of
two
and
three-story
buildings
and
a
six
essentially
dwelling
units
in
front
of
the
three-story
buildings
along.
Not
time
came
yet,
it
will
mostly
consist
of
three
bedroom
units.
11
of
the
12
units
will
be
three
bedroom
units
and
one
will
be
four
bedroom
units.
H
One
of
the
issues
that
we
we've
been
discussing
with
the
applicant
is
the
proposal
of
a
gate
to
be
installed
along
Cameo
90
and,
as
we
have
explained
to
the
applicant,
the
general
plan
really
does
not
and
discourage
or
not
permit.
The
installation
of
gate
you
say
is
that
it
shall
not
be
encouraged.
However,
I
want
a
case-by-case
basis.
The
Planning
Commission
has
approved
gates
in
some
developments
within
the
city,
and
so
that
would
be
for
you
tonight
as
well.
H
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H
This
is
the
the
site
plan
layer
which
is
really
before
you
tonight,
so
you'll
be
looking
at
the
site
plan
design.
So
the
way
it
is
laid
out,
it
will
have
eight
structures
on
the
front,
and
this
all
will
be
three
story.
Buildings
in
front
of
those
will
be
eight
accessory
units
belonging
to
each
of
the
main
units
here
and
then
to
the
west
of
it
are
four
additional
units
which
will
all
be
two-story
building.
A
H
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H
H
Here
is
the
renderings
of
the
of
the
development
again.
This
is
how
it
will
look
like
from
looking
at
it
from
the
East
section
of
the
site,
which
is
along
the
North
Palm
Canyon
again.
What
you've
seen
up
front
here
are
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
with
clear
story,
windows
on
the
top
and,
of
course,
the
three-story
buildings,
the
main
units
itself
behind
it,
and
this
will
show
the
West
elevation
on
this
looking
at
it
from
Camino
naughty.
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H
So
I'm
trying
to
determine
and
I'm
sorry
if
I'm
a
little
bit
slowing
responding
to
that
this
wasn't
I'm
taking
it
on
for
another
staff.
Member,
so
I
don't
have
all
the
details
on
top
of
my
head,
so
I
can
always
go
back
this.
This
drawing
is
a
little
bit.
Blood
I
can
always
go
back
and
get
you
that
the
setback
on
this
one.
Thank
you.
H
So
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
density
of
this
project,
and
so
the
general
plan,
designation
of
of
that
site
is
mixed
use
which
allows
up
to
and
and
or
up
to
15
to
30
dwelling
units,
but
the
HDR
section
of
this
site,
because
it
is
display
side,
it's
only
0.6
Acres,
which
will
allow
anywhere
from
9
to
18
units.
The
mixed
use
portion
of
it
is
only
0.35
Acres.
This
will
allow
up
to
five
units
so
in
all
this
site
could
allow
up
to
9
to
23
units.
H
However,
as
mentioned
earlier,
only
12
units
are
being
proposed
at
this
time,
and
this
is
just
to
show
the
zoning
and
general
and
designation
of
the
site
again
decides
to
the
rest
of.
It
is
next
used
on
the
general
plan
designation,
and
it
is
high
density
residential
to
the
east
of
it,
and
the
zoning
designation
will
be
R2
and
C1,
which
is
traditionally
commercial,
but
allows
would
allow
the
development
of
a
multi-development
multi-family
development,
with
the
approval
of
a
conditional
use.
Permit.
H
And
then
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
the
development
standard.
This
developer
is
now
asking
for
any
deviation
from
a
development
standard.
It
is
in
compliance
with
the
height
requirements
in
both
C1
and
R2
zones,
and
also
the
setbacks
which,
in
C1
along
not
Kenya,
only
requires
five
feet.
Setback
and
unstable
the
project
does
comply
with
it
and
then
on
the
interior
separation
it
does
comply
with
it.
Same
thing
are
longer
coming
or
nothing.
H
As
a
result
of
these
staff
will
be
recommending
approval
of
the
development
permit
and
then
the
cup
and
tentative
track
mark
that
will
conclude
my
staff
report.
But
while
you
are
asking
question,
I
can
go
back
real,
quick
and
on
file
to
find
out
the
the
setback
of
the
previous
or
the
previous
development
that
was
approved
to
the
north
of
this
site.
The
affordable
housing
project.
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G
H
G
Mind
I
I,
see
it
on
the
rendering
I
see
that
they
want.
Oh
okay,
they're
asking
for
a
date.
Okay,
correct
correct.
Did
they?
You
know
we
have
criteria
that
we
use,
since
the
general
plan
discourages
Gates
on
these
developments.
We
allow
them
based
on
certain
criteria,
was
any
criteria
given
because
I
didn't
see
any
for
the
use
of
the
gates,
so.
H
G
G
And
you
know
the
state
recently
passed
the
law
of
encouraging
Adu
units
as
secondary
units
as
affordable
housing,
specifically
for
that
purpose
and
I,
wonder
as
we
look
at
plans
and
I
I
think
those
were
targeted,
opening
up
zoning
to
allow
them
for
ex
for
existing
houses,
in
other
words,
to
do
flag
lots
and
allow
adus
on
existing
properties.
But
in
this
case
the
developers
coming
in
with
the
adus
attached
and
we've
certainly
allowed
these
on
other
developments.
In
fact,
there's
another
development
further
north,
the.
G
H
G
D
Right,
commissioner,
Roberts,
if
I
might
respond
as
a
matter
of
policy
before
maybe
the
City
attorney
weighs
in
I
think
that
the
the
policy
response
is
also
that
you
know
the
city
council
has
determined
that
the
city
does
support.
You
know
adu's
in
most
residential
circumstances,
in
response
to
state
law
and
also
because
of
the
city
council's
own
policies.
So
so
you
are
correct
that
you
know
these
are
permissible
and
it
is
very
difficult
to
limit
them.
D
I
would
also
add
that
this
development
is
coming
in
at
the
very
sort
of
bottom
end
of
the
density
threshold.
That
is
the
Target
in
the
general
plan.
So
you
know
any
further
elimination
of
units
here
would
actually
potentially
make
this
development
non-compliant
with
the
general
plan
in
terms
of
the
density
that
it's
proposing
so
I
think
from
staff
we're
very
comfortable
with
this
density
and
with
the
adus
that
are
proposed.
I'm,
not
sure
if
Mr
priest
has
anything
to
add
from
the
legal
side
of
things
well,.
G
Thank
you
for
that.
That's
pretty
much
what
I
thought,
and
it
is
also
the
policy
of
the
Planning
Commission
to
encourage
these
units,
so
I
I
mostly
wanted
you
to
respond
to
that
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
on
that
that
we
don't
really
Tinker
with
those
okay,
I
think
that
concludes
my
questions
for
now
and
I'll
bring
some
of
these
back
up
when
the
applicant
is
presenting
to
us.
Thank
you
I'm.
Sorry,.
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B
You
thank
you
Edward.
Can
you
help
me
with
one
of
the
comments
I'm
looking
at
circulation
and
one
of
the
comments
in
the
staff
reported,
the
most
recent
staff
report
dealt
with
traffic
calming
and
it
said,
and
I
quote
since
there's
no
issue
with
pass-through
traffic
calming
machiners
are
not
relevant
to
the
issue
of
getting
this
community
I
I
I'm
I'm,
not
quite
following
what
you're
saying
here.
Why
is
there
no
issue
with
pass-through
traffic?
Is
it
just
because
there's
gonna
not
be
a
lot
of
vehicles
coming
through?
B
H
That
that
that
judgment
is
based
on
the
number
of
units,
this
is
only
at
12
unit
development,
as
opposed
to
a
bigger
development
that
will
perhaps
in
the
20s
or
30s.
That
would
require
additional,
perhaps
traffic
calming
devices
or
other
methods
of
slowing
down
traffic,
but
it
is,
it
is
just
we're
looking
at
the
size
and
making
that
determination
and
I've
asked
it's
time
from
our
engineering
department
to
also
weigh
in
in
case
this
question
will
have
to
come
up,
but
in
generally
that's
what
we
looked
at.
H
B
Let
me
follow
up
on
that,
because
I
might
have
be
using
different
terminology
than
you
are
to
me.
Passing
traffic
is
when
vehicles
that
are
not
destined
for
one
of
these
12
units
are
shortcutting
through
to
get
back
into
the
Las
Palmas
area
and
that
and
that
could
potentially
be
mitigated
by
speed
humps
so
that
the
neighbors.
This
is
in
protection
of
the
neighbors
for
the
12
units
that
are
proposed.
B
H
G
The
level
of
service
is
based
on
a
trip
generation,
analysis
that
there's
different
trip.
Generators
based
on
the
based
on,
what's
being
proposed,
so
there's
different
trip,
generators
for
commercial
versus
schools
versus
supermarkets
and
houses,
and
this
sort
of
thing-
and
that's
the
way
that
the
city
used
to
do
a
general
traffic
analysis
or
a
scoping
letter
to
see
if
it
rises
to
any
kind
of
level
and
then
recently,
the
the
laws
changed
and
you're
required
to
now
use.
G
What's
called
a
BMT
analysis
which
is
vehicle,
miles
traveled
and
it's
a
it's
an
entirely
different
type
of
model.
That's
used
in
both
situations
using
the
old
Los
type
system,
the
level
of
service.
That's
a
trip
generation
that
is
less
than
100
peak
hours
or
100
Peak
trips
per
hour.
But
it
also
had
the
apartment
complexes
or
multi-family
projects.
G
That
would
be
less
than
150
units
right,
but
they
would
also
have
to
generate
a
hundred
Peak
trip
hours
and
this
project,
just
it
doesn't
trip
any
of
those
using
the
old
LS
system.
Los
system
and
the
new
VMT
system
requires
that
it
has
to
be
a
minimum
of
2
16
multi-family
unit
condo
type
projects,
and
then
it
would
still
have
to
you
know,
trigger
a
certain
amount
of
trips
and
this
project
just
simply
just
to
get
there.
B
Okay,
then,
the
other
half
of
my
question
is
if
the
neighborhood
was
interested
in
keeping
vehicles
off
of
Camino
Del
Norte
and
from
the
the
feeder
streets
and
forcing
entrance
from
Palm
Canyon
home
Canyon
is
a
heavily
traveled
Street
and
at
speeds
that
I'm
not
sure
what
it
is
through.
There
are
35,
maybe
I'm
wondering
if
the
configuration
and
the
traffic
traffic
counts
on
Palm
Canyon
are
conducive
to
having
more
driveways
to
residences
or
from
a
traffic
safety
standpoint.
G
B
H
In
this
case,
background
requirements
are
only
calculated
for
the
main
dwellings,
which
is
the
the
the
units
itself.
Not
what
did
you
say
in
this
case?
What
do
you
mean?
So
no
it
no
parking
requirements
are
required
when
they
are
part
of
a
a
proposed
unit.
So
it's
only
for
the
main
unit
that
that
are
calculated,
in
other
words,
is.
C
D
F
G
E
G
F
G
If
you
cannot
make
the
findings
for
the
major
development
permit,
the
cup
or
the
TTM,
for
some
reason
as
to
the
main
project
as
to
the
main
units,
then
you
can
deny
the
project
or
condition
it
to
address
any
concerns
you
have
based
on
your
findings,
but
just
the
fact
that
the
adus
are.
There
is
not
a
basis
to
deny
the
project,
because
if
you
approve
the
main
12
units,
those
adus
on
the
eight
go
along
for
the
ride.
Basically,
they
are
allowed.
F
Okay,
thanks
that
clarifies
that
and
staff.
If
you
could
tell
me,
because
I
had
a
similar
concern
as
to
Vice
chair
Roberts,
when
I
saw
the
three
trees
and
the
site
plan
their
landscape
plan,
you
don't
have
to
put
it
up
because
we've
seen
it.
But
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
site
plan
or
the
landscape
plant,
virtually
everything
else
is
Hardscape.
So,
even
if
we
said
to
Arc,
we
approved
this,
but
we
want
you
to
provide
more
trees
and
there's
no
place
to
put
the
trees.
H
F
F
I,
just
don't
think,
there's
any
place
else
for
those
trees,
but
that's
a
comment.
I've
got
another,
a
question
about
parking,
condos
or
or
maybe
there's
not
a
separate
condo,
a
classification
in
the
code,
but
condos
or
multi-family
housing.
Is
there
additional
guest
parking
required
on
top
of
the
per
unit
requirements
for
parking.
H
I
J
F
Yeah
I'm
sorry,
I
I
asked
a
question
during
your
presentation
and
you
told
me
to
hold
off
and
I
forgot
to
ask
that.
So.
Can
you
show
us
the
section
again
because
I'm
confused
as
to
where
the
five
feet
is?
Is
it
five
feet
include
the
sidewalk?
Is
it
from
the
Inside
Edge
of
the
sidewalk
to
the
building
the
inside
Edge
the
sidewalk
to
a
retaining
wall?
I
just
don't
know
what
I've
gotten
that
five
feet.
Where
is
it?
Is
it
All
Landscape?
What
is
it?
Can
you
show
that
to
us.
H
H
H
H
G
A
A
I
know
we
were
sued
some
years
ago
for
permitting
under
the
density
and
when
you
showed
the
density
required
slides
it
looked
like
we,
the
12
was
under
what
was
required
for
both
the
multi.
If
you
continue
the
multi-family
and
the
cup
and
the
the
commercial
minimums,
are
you
getting
the
density
because
of
the
adus.
H
G
My
understanding,
Madam
chair,
is
that
the
minimum
density
for
based
on
the
zoning
in
general
plan
designations
could
be
as
low
as
nine
units
and
could
permit
as
many
as
23.
that
was
Mr,
hadwood
or
Mr
Robertson.
Can
you
confirm
that,
but
that
was
my
understanding
is
that
was
the
density
range
permitted
here.
A
G
Yeah,
if
this
were
exclusively
high
density,
residential
Madam
chair,
then
I
would
agree
with
your
premise
that
this
site's
being
underdeveloped,
because
the
entire
site
would
have
to
be
a
minimum
of
15
units
per
acre
or
above.
However,
because
we
have
a
mixed
site
here
and
the
portion
that
is
up
to
15
units
under
the
alternate
designation,
the
C1
designation.
A
G
A
H
D
A
A
A
H
A
A
You
no,
but
if
you
look
at
the
drawings
on
it,
we've
pushed
back
some
patios,
it's
much
it's
much
further
back.
We
and
we
required
them
to
do
it.
It's
much
further
back
from
the
street,
yeah
play
the
street,
so
the
the
question
is-
and
this
is
one
for
staff,
which
was
we
required-
that
of
the
developer
next
door
to
activate
the
street,
and
we
required
an
attempt
at
commercial
to
activate
the
street.
D
D
Typically,
it
would
be
our
preference
and
priority
that
we
activate
Palm
Canyon
with
commercial
uses,
but
again
I
think
looking
at
the
size
and
orientation
of
this
lot
and
sort
of
the
need
for
housing
that
was
expressed
by
the
developer
and
that
they
were
responding
to
I.
Think
the
the
size
of
the
commercial
space
that
you're
going
to
get
on
this
site
within
the
the
portion,
Zone
C1,
would
be
relatively
small,
and
then
you
know
the
parking
requirements
for
that
would
further
eliminate
residential
units
and
and
really
sort
of
change.
D
A
E
A
A
A
K
K
First,
the
the
setback
that
is
five
foot
for
the
building
to
the
South,
that's
the
verdier
building.
It
runs
from
the
corner
of
Norte
to
our
project.
It's
I,
don't
know
the
frontage
bike.
I
can't
remember
the
frontage
was
it's
double
I
think
what
we
have.
We
have
about
200
feet
and
that's
a
three-story
building
and
has
a
five
foot
setback
and
it's
the
berdier
building
has
been
there
for
for
many
years,
the
concept
for
the
guest
houses
or
the
adus.
K
Let's
see
what
else
do
I
have?
Okay,
the
the
the
the
sidewalk
is
the
cities
and
the
retaining
wall
is
also
on
the
city
and
in
five
feet.
Back
from
the
retaining
wall,
which
is
a
planter,
is
the
property
line
and
we're
an
additional
five
feet
back
from
there
to
the
building
front,
so
that
would
make
us
10
feet
from
the
face
of
that.
Retaining
wall
planter
that's
existing
on
Palm
Canyon,
which
we,
which
we
propose
to
to
keep.
K
We
met
extensively
on
this
development
from
the
very
beginning,
with
Flynn
and
unfortunately,
Flynn's
not
not
here
this
evening,
because
he
has
a
history
on
it
to
develop
what
would
work
as
far
as
everything
we've
talked
about
earlier
density
and
and
building
usage,
and
so
on.
Our
Frontage
is
about
200
feet,
so
it's
a
very
small
Frontage
on
Palm
Canyon.
So
that's
why
we
felt
that
doing
any
kind
of
commercial.
Really,
probably
it
wouldn't
work
very
well.
We
have
two
letters,
that's
in
well,
we
have.
K
We
have
one
letter
in
response
to
the
gates.
First,
we
asked
for
the
gates.
Secondly,
we
got
a
response
from
David
with
the
code
as
such
for
for
Gates
and
then
what
we
did
was
and
Ernie
can
answer
that
he's
on
tonight
with
me,
we
sent
that
letter
and
basically,
what
we
feel
we're
dealing
with
is
a
driveway.
It's
150
feet
deep.
It
only
Services
these
12
units
and
to
have
it
ungated
and
all
of
the
parking
is
allotted
for
guest
parking,
and
so
it
would
just
it
wouldn't
create
anything.
K
A
K
No
well
there's
two
people
here,
there's
one
with
my
partner,
which
is
Ernie
Vincent
and
he
can
answer
I,
guess
an
answer,
maybe
to
the
negated
situation
and
and
anything
else
if
he
wants
to
add
the
architect
of
Renee,
was
from
O2.
Architects
is
here
with
a
technical
questions
you
might
ask,
but
I
think
you've
already
covered
most
of
that.
So
if
Ernie
wants
to
say
something,
we're
completed
our
discussion
until
you
need
further.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah,
if
I
could
speak
I'll
just
say
on
the
gates
that,
in
response
to
David
Newell's
correspondence,
we
sent
in
a
letter
which
I
think
Edward
has
included
in
your
package
and
basically
our
response
followed
the
code
section
that
David
had
given
us
and
starting
with
the
item
that
control
access.
Is
this
our
understanding
that
the
history
behind
that
is
for
communities
to
be
more
open
to
the
you
know
the
general
community
and
not
wall
themselves?
Off
this
particular
development?
E
We
have
eight
of
the
homes
on
Palm
Canyon,
with
Gates
there
with
access
and
one
on
Camino
Norte.
So
nine
out
of
the
12
are
on
the
perimeter.
We
only
have
three
units
that
would
be
inside
a
gate,
so
we
don't
see
the
rationale
there
for
requiring
that
we
not
have
a
gay
and
if
we
do
not
have
it,
we
feel
there
may
be
some
impact
on
the
parking
in
there,
as
well
as
some
traffic
and
as
Dennis
said
what
we
mainly
have.
E
A
L
I'm
Garth
Gilpin
I
live
in
the
500
foot
diameter
and
the
The
Neighbors
in
the
area
have
have
a
couple
major
concerns
that
I
don't
see
addressed
here
and
we've
written
letters
and
I
haven't
seen
any
of
the
issues
that
we've
raised
been
talked
about.
One
of
them
is
the
Adu
units
and
the
sanitary
conditions
raised
with
trash
there's
no
place
for
these
units
to
dispose
of
trash.
They.
L
The
other
issue
is
safety.
The
project
north
of
it
has
a
curve
in
the
when
that
project
was
approved,
the
the
exit
from
that
property
was
gated
and
it's
allowed
only
for
emergency
use
of
fire
trucks
and
ambulances.
Now
we
asked
the
commission
to
please
conduct
the
traffic
study
for
the
safety
of
this
curve.
It's
a
blind
curve
and
time
you
get
trucks
parked
in
there
for
for
the
neighborhood
landscapers
Etc.
It
is
very
dangerous
and
we
just
asked
that
a
study
be
done.
L
The
driveway
is
a
hundred
and
250
feet
plus
and
I
read
the
fire
department
codes.
Anything
over
150
feet
has
to
have
a
turnaround
and
there's
no
turnaround
there.
This
is
a
safety
issue.
It's
a
fire
issue.
The
the
project
needs
some
review
by
this
committee
to
for
safety
and
sanitary
issues,
and
we
welcome
the
project.
God
has
better
than
this
whole
tree
thing.
L
We've
got
there
now,
but
I
think
the
the
Planning
Commission
has
to
review
this
project
in
different
different
light
other
than
we
have
eight
units
in
here.
You
also
address
the
CC
and
ours
that
they
don't
address.
These
eight
issues
and
I
believe
that's
a
bad
mistake.
They
have
to
be
addressed
specifically
as
to
what
the
ccnr's
relate
to
these
eight
units.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
me.
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
having
a
lot
of
us
here
in
the
community
that
live
in
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
My
name
is
Paul
Popovich
I
live
basically
two
complexes
away
from
there
and
as
Garth
kind
of
mentioned.
A
lot
of
us
are
very
concerned
about
certain
specific
things,
and
then
we
welcomed
that
project
and
also
the
neighboring
project.
That's
supposed
to
be
scheduled.
J
The
hello
start
to
do
groundbreaking
in
in
February,
but
anyhow
I'm,
just
going
to
read
parts
of
my
letter,
I
think
some
of
the
questions
and
issues
and
concerns
that
I
had
have
been
somewhat
addressed,
but
I
I
think
you
know,
there's
been
discussions
about
these
guest
units.
The
concerns
I,
think
that
me,
and
similarly
other
neighbors
have-
is
that
some
of
these
could
be
turned
into
vacation
rentals,
and
you
know
we
know,
there's
a
lot
of
discussions
here
in
Palm
Springs.
J
Something
is
going
to
be
going
to
the
city
council
in
the
next
week
or
so
about
restricting
we've
seen,
increase
vacation
rentals
in
this
immediate
community
and
it's
creating
changes
and
problems.
Also,
some
of
the
neighboring
businesses
on
Wes
Stevens.
On
the
other
side.
There's
a
popular
new
restaurant
that
is
increasing
traffic
flow,
the
Trixie
Motel
there's
also
some
other
Commercial
Business
there
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
pass-through
traffic
coming
through
the
side
streets.
J
So,
even
though
there
was
someone
I
guess
earlier,
that
said
there
might
be
more
traffic
coming
through
it's
already
coming
through,
and
that
curve
is
a
huge
safety
issue.
It
may
not
be
apparent
from
the
diagrams,
but
a
lot
of
us
walk
through
there
with
our
dogs
and
pets.
Last
week
I
was
walking
through
car.
Just
came
flying
through
almost
ran
into
me.
They
I
took
that
sharp
curve
went
into
the
wrong
lane,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
that
space
can
be
widened
up.
J
There's
a
sidewalk
that
just
drops
and
there's
also
looks
like
they
put
in
some
underground
transmission
barriers,
and
so
that
kind
of
shortens
the
space
as
well
so
I'm,
hoping
that
some
of
that
stuff
can
be
addressed,
but
I'm.
Just
looking
at
my
letter
to
see,
if
there's
anything
else,
I'd
like
to
kind
of
address
you
know,
I
I
did
hear
some
of
the
comments
about
why
there's
no
Ingress
and
egress
egress
of
North
Palm
Canyon.
J
If
you
look
at
the
property
there's
some
pictures
that
I
attached
to
the
letter
there
looks
at
at
a
previous
time
that
there
was
access
there.
That
would
be
my
preference
to
keep
some
of
the
traffic
off
of
these
back
streets
in
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
That's
all
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
for
your
time.
C
Yes,
I
would
just
I
live
in
the
same
Seville
is
that
Paul
does
and
I
sent
a
letter,
which
is
brief,
comment
complementing
the
project
on
providing
a
sidewalk
in
that
area
on
Camino
Norte,
but
asking
a
question
about
the
possibility
of
having
a
a
southbound,
egress
and
Ingress
on
North
Palm
Canyon,
which
I
don't
think
would
affect
traffic
flow
and
wonder
about
the
highway
department,
just
considering
a
unidirectional
one.
That
would
be
a
right
turn
only.
Thank
you.
K
G
K
Okay,
the
the
fire
department
requires
a
150
feet
maximum,
we
have
140
feet
and
then
you
need
to
hit
a
a
a
turnaround,
and
in
this
case
we
have
a
hammer
head
that
meets
the
requirements
of
the
turnaround
and
the
fire
department
has
already
reviewed
the
project
and
has
preliminarily
approved
it.
Okay,.
G
K
I
was
doing
what
we
are
doing
on
that
or
attempting
to
do
on
that
I
think
we're
going
to
be
able
to
accomplish.
It
is
to
create
more
of
a
single
family
unit
that
would
be
respondent
to
the
neighborhood
on
coming
on
on
Camino
Norte.
Rather
than
have
it
be
more
of
a
continuation
of
of
the
condominium
units,
it's
more
of
an
individualization
and
creating
a
a
individual
unit
as
such,
and
with
respect
to
falling
off
the
truck
I'm.
G
K
G
F
F
K
F
K
F
Oh
I
had
another
question:
what
is
the
opportunity,
given
the
existing
site
plan
for
some
more
trees
and
I
was
just
because
that
was
a
concern
of
Vice,
chair
Roberts
and
myself
and
I'm
looking
at
the
schematic
design,
site
plan,
I
think
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
Street
trees
and
that
would
amounts
to
about
a
10-foot
planter
area.
Would
that
be
a
possibility,
because
I
don't
really
see
a
lot
of
other
tree
opportunities
in
the
cyclone.
F
K
Well
again,
we'll
we'll
be
taking
into
consideration
any
opportunity
we
have
to
add
additional
Landscaping
trees
and
so
on
and
and
again
this
is
preliminary
to
start
with
and
we're
not
wanting
to
take
anything
away
from
the
project.
If
anything
we
would
add,
and
if
we
can
find
Opportunities,
we
will
I
think
on
the
perimeters.
We
have
opportunity
between
us
and
the
71
units
to
soften
it
up,
because
that
is
a
a
pretty
large
project.
That's
adjacent
to
us,
as
well
as
opportunities
on
Palm
Canyon.
K
A
K
They
won't
necessarily
be
ad
units,
but
I
fully
appreciate
the
Planning
Commission,
saying:
okay,
what
if
they
all
are-
and
so,
if
they
are,
there's
there's
an
accommodation
in
the
in
as
you
come
in
through
the
gate
in
the
front
for
for
the
trash
and
also
whoever
rents
the
unit
or
keeps
the
unit
is
going
to
have
to
take
into
consideration
how
they're
going
to
deal
with
the
trash
on
their
ad
unit
on
their
property
and
also
the
city
with
the
waste
management
who
works,
I.
Think
it's
Waste
Management
of
Palm
Springs
disposal.
A
K
Yes,
we
have
we
we
have
in
in
our
other
developments
that
we
build
as
long
as
as
well
as
this
one
that
we
would
comply
to
whatever
the
city
requirement
is
regarding
vacation
rental
at
any
given
time
going
forward
going
and
going
forward.
I
know
we're
in
an
interesting
time
with
with
respect
to
Vacation
Rentals,
and
the
city
is
going
to
make
their
decisions,
which
will
take
into
consideration
our
development
as
well
as
any
other
house
or
or
condominium
project
or
whatever
within
the
city.
A
K
K
And
and
we
we
will
and-
and
we
always
have
in
the
past
in
the
500
or
so
units
that
we've
built
within
Palm
Springs
over
the
last
25
years,
we've
always
taken
a
consideration.
The
ccnrs
with
consideration
two
of
rentals
and
again
apply
and
again
agreeing
with
whatever
the
city's
requirements
are
with
respect
to
that.
A
A
K
I,
actually
so
what
I
mentioned
earlier,
when
you
see
the
development
or
the
the
the
the
the
the
project
as
it
stands
right
now,
there's
a
sidewalk
and
that
belongs
to
the
city
and
then
there's
the
retaining
wall,
which
is
also
on
city
property.
And
then
you
go
back
five
feet
from
the
top
of
that
retaining
wall,
and
that
would
be
the
property
line.
K
And
then
you
go
another
five
feet
and
that's
the
building,
so
it
would
physically
be
10
feet
back
from
the
retaining
wall
that
you
see
existing
on
Palm
Canyon
right
now,
and
it
would
be
the
same
Frontage
as
the
verdur
building
the
same
setback
as
the
verdier
building,
which
is
a
fairly
substantial
building.
I
think
great,
that
is,
on
the
on
our
South
line,
East
to
east
and
south
line.
So.
K
G
G
There
was
other
criterias
that
we've
used
I,
don't
see
them
here.
I
worry
about
setting
precedent
by
allowing
them
up
by
allow
engage
without
a
specific
criteria
I'd
like
to
as
we
send
this
to
the
AAC
I'd
like
them
to
focus
a
lot
on
the
landscaping
for
this
project,
both
out
on
Palm
Canyon
and
within
the
development.
G
G
With
respective
with
respect
to
Vacation
Rentals,
the
way
the
policy
is
currently
currently
written
is
that
HOAs
decide
so
new
condos
are
being
developed,
some
that
allow
for
vacation
rentals,
most
don't,
and
at
the
time
these
were
written,
it
was
decided
that
we
leave
that
with
HOAs
to
decide
so
yeah
we're
just
we.
We
simply
may
never
know
whether
vacation
rentals
are
going
to
be
allowed
or
not.
G
G
To
pay
attention
to
that
and
I
yeah
I
I
think
most
of
the
concerns
have
been
responded
to
and
responded
to.
Well.
I
listened
carefully
to
the
concerns
of
the
Neighbors
about
trip
generation
and
traffic.
We're
talking
12
units
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
at
a
significant
amount
of
traffic
to
this
area.
G
B
Number
five
number
one
is
because
what's
addressed
here
is
the
consistency
with
the
general
plan,
but
this
only
discusses
the
general
plan
in
terms
of
densities,
and
the
general
plan
is
more
than
just
the
densities
in
part.
The
general
plan
is
the
gated
communities
and
I
have
the
same
concerns
that
many
of
us
have
spoken
about
on
other
projects.
B
I
Yeah
many
of
my
comments
have
already
been
addressed
by
other
Commissioners,
but
I
think
the
site
is
I.
First
of
all,
I
generally
support
this
project,
but
I
think
it's
woefully
devoid
of
landscaping,
especially
Street,
trees
and
I.
Think
there
needs
to
be
found
a
way
to
fit
treat
trees
in
whether
they're
in
the
right-of-way,
along
Palm,
Canyon
or
on
the
property.
It
seems
like
there
is
room
I.
Think.
Any
motion
that
we
would
be
inclined
to
make
should
include
a
condition
regarding
that.
I
The
a
for
the
Architectural
Review
Committee,
as
well
as
on
Camino
Norte,
is
as
well
I
believe
that
the
facades
along
Palm
Canyon
are
too
blank.
They
need
some
sort
of
articulation
or
fenestration,
whether
there's
even
faux
windows
or
something
I,
think
that's
going
to
be
well
architecturally.
The
folded
plate
look
is
is
interesting
and
Carries
on
some
of
the
themes
of
other
architecture
in
the
city.
I
think
the
windowless
walls
at
street
level
are
going
to
be
cold
and
uninviting
for
people
along
Palm,
Canyon,
sidewalk,
I.
I
B
Wouldn't
I'm
not
sure
quite
where
I
dropped
off
I
believe
that
I
was
talking
about
the
massing
of
the
building
and
how
I
don't
believe
it
is
consistent
with
its
neighbor
that
has
been
approved
to
the
north,
which
is
much
more
open
and
transparent.
I
believe
that
this
presents
as
a
solid
wall
essentially
to
the
community
and,
finally,
the
condition:
number:
oh
I'm.
B
Sorry,
it's
condition,
number
five
I
might
have
said
64.,
but
number
five
I,
don't
believe
that
the
setbacks
of
this
building
are
consistent
with
what
the
setbacks
are
of
the
adjacent
developments
and
proposed
approved
developments
and
for
those
reasons,
I
am
not
comfortable
with
the
project
that
is,
as
it
is.
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
lack
of
landscaping.
I
think
that
that
is
a
detractor
to
not
just
the
development
itself,
but
to
the
community
surrounding
it.
E
E
E
C
C
F
Excuse
me,
vacation,
rentals
and
I
think
if
we
want
to
comply
with
State
guidelines
and
also
the
city's
desire
to
create
affordable
housing
and
if,
if
it's
allowed
under
you
know
our
ability
to
require
these
things,
and
we
could
ask
Mr
Priestess
I
would
require
that
these
are
prohibited.
These
adus
or
guest
Suites.
However,
you
want
to
call
them
prohibited
from
renting
out
for
less
than
30
days.
F
If
we
can
do
that,
I
would
support
that
as
a
condition
of
approval.
I
also
have
concern
about
garbage,
you
know
to
say:
what's
up
to
the
guy
that
rents
it
that's
kind
of,
like
you
know,
you're
designing
this
project
from
scratch.
It's
not
like
you're
trying
to
fit
an
existing
unit
into
a
tenement
or
something
they
got
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
deal
with
it.
I.
Don't
know
what
it
is.
F
I'd
like
to
make
it
a
requirement
of
approval.
If
we
do
approve
that
it
is
a
a
CMU
or
masonry
unit
on
that
facade,
because
if
it
is
stucco
it
just
it,
it
doesn't
it's
just
false
completely
flat,
and
that
is
what
the
drawing
is
currently
call
for.
So,
like
I
said
it
might
be
a
mistake,
I
don't
know,
but
it
can't
be
that
with
approval.
F
I
understand
what
advice
chair,
Roberts
is
saying
and
I
could
go
either
way
on
that
one
and
I
think
that's
it
so
ccnr's
landscape,
oh
as
I,
say
traffic
calming
if
any
place
needs
traffic
calming.
According
to
these
comments,
which
are
from
the
public,
it's
the
street,
not
within
the
development
itself,
so
maybe
that's
something
engineering,
the
developer
and
the
neighbors
could
work
on.
A
A
I
have
Gates
I.
Think
we've
all
expressed
that
we
don't
believe
this
meets
the
conditions
for
a
gate.
If
there
were
I,
think
trash
is
important
and
I
think
they
have
to
have
a
plan
for
how
they're
going
to
deal
with
trash
as
they
come
to
us
and
then
go
on
to
architectural
advisory
or
Architectural
Review.
So
I
think
that
needs
to
come
back.
I
think
the
project
feels
walled
off
from
the
street.
It
feels
like
it's
a
massive
wall.
A
A
A
And
continue
continue
with
conditions
that
they
come
back
with
the
landscape,
a
full
landscape
plan.
They
articulate
what
they're
going
to
be
doing
a
better
articulation
and
better
drawings
in
the
front.
So
we
can
see
the
placement
of
the
building
against
the
street
and
against
the
other
two
buildings
that
are
going
to
be
there,
that
that
they
determine
they
have
some
determination,
some
initial
determination
of
what
they're
going
to
do
with
the
back
building
and
they
resolve
the
trash
issue.
G
I
just
want
to
be
clear
on
this
on
this,
because
the
last
direction
from
commissioner
Olean
said,
if
I
understood
her
properly,
we
want
them
to
listen
to
all
the
comments
made.
We
don't
all
agree
on
all
comments
and
I
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
unfair
to
an
applicant
I
think
we
need
to
either
agree
or
disagree
on
specific
areas
of
concern
like
trash
landscape,
Palm,
Canyon,
facade,
and
if
we
want
to
add
to
mothers,
let's
do
that,
let's
be
specific
about
it.
G
Well,
those
are
the
areas
that
I
heard
of
greatest
concern
was
landscape,
for
all
of
us
was
which
fluid
also
kind
of,
and
to
more
clearly
Define
the
facade
on
North
Palm
Canyon.
What
is
it?
Is
it
stucco?
Is
it
block
and
I
think
with
the
right
Landscaping
that
facade
will
be
fine,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
what
else
there
was
we
all
agreed,
no
Gates.
F
G
G
Yeah,
that's
a
strange
one,
because
the
argument
that
was
made
is
hard
to
confirm
other
than
a
site.
Visit
and
I
haven't
made
a
site
visit
to
this,
but
at
that
rear
house,
which
is
more
of
a
Park
which
is
more
of
an
arts
and
crafts.
A
Spanish
design
fits
in
better
with
that
neighborhood.
So
if
they,
if
they
are
going
to
stand
by
that,
that's
okay,
but
maybe
they
can
show
us
images
of
why
that
works
of
why
they
made
those
decisions.
I've
just
never
seen
a
development.
B
And
I
would
ask
that
I
heard
at
least
three
of
us
three
or
four
talk
about
concern
about
the
relative,
relatively
impervious
facade
on
the
east
side
and
some
way
to
lighten
that
up.
I
heard
somebody
suggest
that
glazing
I,
don't
think
that
adding
more
landscaping
and
making
an
even
more
impervious
facade
is
going
to
be
sufficient
to
address
my
concerns,
but
that
that's
why
I
had
actually
wanted
to
be
a
little
bit
looser
and
let
the
the
architectural
team
take
a
look
at
it.
B
F
I
would
just
say
if
you
look
at
the
Rye,
which
has
similar
sorts
of
architectural
forms,
there's
a
rhythm
set
up,
but
then
they
break
the
Rhythm
with
an
element,
be
it
a
opening
or
a
window,
but
it
it
breaks
it
up
it.
It
makes
it
a
little
more
Dynamic
rather
than
static,
which
is
I,
think
what
a
lot
of
people
are
looking
at,
referring
to.
G
A
G
H
A
D
I'll,
try
so
I
believe
Madam
chair
that
we
have
a
motion
to
continue
to
date,
certain
on
December
14th,
to
allow
the
applicant
to
return
with
a
better
formulated
landscape
plan
with
drawings
that
reconsider
the
Palm
Canyon
facade
to
consider
activating
the
frontage
along
Palm
Canyon,
with
a
plan
for
trash
and
waste
disposal,
specifically
for
the
adus
and
with
a
plan
that
reflects
no
gate
and
does
that
capture
everything
that
I
missed.
Something.
A
G
A
D
A
Before
we
finish,
Mr
priest
wanted
to
speak
about
the
vacation
rental
issue
and
I
might
speak
for
a
second.
The
council
hasn't
taken
a
position
on
this.
The
only
position
I've
heard
is
that
the
there
is
there
should
there
needs
to
be
a
decision
before
they
as
to
which
way
they're
going
to
go
on
vacation,
rentals
or
rentals
of
the
units
themselves,
the
adus
that
they
that
that's
there
from
consul's
perspective
right
now.
That's
their
decision
am
I,
correct,
Mr
priest.
G
A
A
D
B
C
C
J
A
A
M
Give
me
a
second,
you
can
see
the
screen
correct.
Yes,
thank
you
all
right.
Good
evening,
chair
and
Commissioners,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
three-story
127
000
square
foot
self
storage
facility
on
a
6.43
acre
parcel
within
the
college,
Desert
Park
specific
plan.
The
project
site
is
highlighted
in
yellow
and
prior
to
construction
will
require
a
personal
merger
with
our
engineering
department
to
merge
the
two
Parcels
into
one
lot.
A
M
So
the
site
will
front
both
West
San,
Rafael
and
West.
Radio
Road,
Ingress
and
Ingress
will
take
place
off
West
San
Rafael,
with
an
exit
only
on
West
Radio
Road.
The
development
of
this
project
will
allow
for
Street
dedication
to
occur
on
San
Rafael
we're
currently
the
lane,
as
you
can
see
in
the
first
photo,
merges
I'm
sorry
the
top
photo
merges
there
and
that
there
is
lack
of
pedestrian
walkway.
M
The
project
will
require
the
development
of
curb
Gutter
and
sidewalk
on
both
the
project
site
and
the
adjacent
site,
so
that
the
new
sidewalk
connects
with
the
two
existing
sidewalks
on
both
sides.
So
the
photo
on
the
right
there's
a
yellow
line.
It
basically
is
indicating
that
the
sidewalk
curving
gutter
will
continue
to.
A
A
M
D
Thank
you
and
Madam
chair.
If
I
might
and
I'm
sorry
Alex
we're
throwing
a
bunch
of
curveballs
out,
you
go
one
slide
prior,
so
the
navigation
Center
is
actually
on
the
very
left
part
of
the
screen.
Just
before
that
road,
McCarthy
Road
curves,
you
have
the
the
apartments
and
then
above
it
you
have
some
industrial
uses,
Alex
yeah
to
the
left
of
that
and
up
one
that
warehouse.
That's
the
navigation
Center
down
one
yeah
right
there
right.
M
Oh,
it's
a
650
feet
from
the
navigation
Center.
Thank
you,
okay,
so
the
project
will
include
one
story:
I'm,
sorry,
one
three-story
building
one
vehicle
wash
area,
180
covered,
RV
storage,
carports
trash
enclosure
and
new
landscaping
around
the
perimeter.
The
storage
facility
is
not
a
24-hour
facility.
Customers
will
have
access
inside
the
facility
via
gate
code
and
only
during
store
operating
store
operating
hours.
There
will
also
be
a
24-hour
video
surveillance
system
that
will
have
cameras
inside
and
outside.
M
Storage
and
it
is
a
permitted
use
in
the
M1
SG
Zone
by
rate,
so
the
vehicle
washing
station
will
be
approximately
18
feet,
8
inches
high
and
will
be
made
to
accommodate
larger
RVs.
The
excess
water
will
run
off
into
underground
storage
via
swell
where
it
will
have
to
comply
with
the
wqmp
conditions.
M
Foreign
ports
will
stand
approximately
15
feet
tall
and
will
be
constructed
with
galvanized
steel
and
will
offer
protection
from
the
Sun
and
Landscape
will
be,
will
surround
the
southwest
and
East
property
lines
and
help
screen
the
RV
parking
area.
Landscape
will
be
desert
appropriate
and
will
be
and
will
comply
with
the
college.
I'm
sorry
Coachella,
Valley
lesson
efficient
guidelines.
M
So,
as
mentioned
previously,
the
building
is
three
stories
tall,
which
is
approximately
30
feet
high.
This
will
be
the
tallest
building
in
the
area.
However,
other
buildings
range
between
one
and
two
stories
in
height,
the
proposed
building
isn't
significantly
higher
than
existing
buildings
and
it
does
comply
with
the
development
standards
of
this
Zone
Additionally.
M
The
building
has
a
46-foot
setback
on
the
East
property
line
and
a
30
sorry
131
foot
setback
from
the
adjacent
apartments
on
the
west
and
42
foot
setback
from
the
barbecue
restaurant
as
well,
so
it
shouldn't
power
over
the
adjacent
buildings,
so
staff
I'm
sorry.
So
these
are
additional
photos
and
renderings
of
the
project.
M
B
Thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
staff
relative
to
some
of
the
findings
that
we're
asked
to
make.
One
of
them
is
number
11,
and
it's
talking
about
odors
and
possible,
and
how
to
mitigate
possible
odors
that
may
emanate
from
the
parked
RVs
it's
it
and
it
says
as
a
solution,
it's
the
odors
will
be
maintained.
B
What
puzzles
me
or
part
of
what
puzzles
me
is
that
when
I
look
at
the
mnd
and
the
discussion
of
environmental
impacts,
it
indicates
that
there's
known
odors
are
expected.
So
my
question
is
twofold:
one:
do
the
parked
RVs
emanate
odors
and
two?
How
is
it
that
they
will
be
maintained?
I
think
we
need
to
either
delete
the
condition
or
delete
the
discussion
of
odors
if
it
doesn't
apply
or
specifically
say
how
they're
going
to
be
maintained.
M
B
B
However,
the
findings
that
we
actually
make
discusses
all
the
types
of
species
of
plant
material,
we're
going
to
use
without
saying
what
I
believe
was
the
critical
thing
that
you
said
in
your
presentation
and
I.
Think
if
you
can
assure
that
this
is
correct,
we
might
need
to
clean
up
the
findings.
You
said
that
this
does
comply
with
the
cities,
landscape.
M
B
F
I
think
I'd,
like
Mr
Hadley,
to
respond
to
this.
We
received
a
letter
from
the
State
Department
of
Fish
and
Wildlife
that
in
very
dense
bureaucratic
language,
seems
to
condemn
the
findings
of
the
SQL
reporter
of
the
environmental
report
that
was
done
by
our
consultant
and,
if
that's
the
case,
I'd
like
Mr,
have
when
to
respond
to
this.
Please.
F
Yeah,
so
we
received
a
letter
from
the
Department
of
Fish
and
Wildlife
that
in
very
dense,
bureaucratic
language
seems
to
I.
Don't
know,
can
find
fault
with
the
with
our
Consultants
SQL
report
and
I'd
like
you
to
respond
to
that.
If
is
the
report
deficient
is
the
is
the
fish
and
wildlife
letter
determinative?
Is
it
something
that
that
you
agree
with,
and
should
we
be
vetting
the
reports
more
closely
before
we
let
fish
and
wildlife
see
it?
So
we
don't
get
these
kinds
of
responses
back
removed.
D
D
There
was
a
bit
of
a
lag
between
that
letter
coming
in
and
sort
of
the
finalization
of
the
of
the
documents
for
SQL
and
to
the
point
where
our
consultant
is
confident
that
all
of
those
those
items
have
already
been
addressed
and
so
I
think
they
can
speak
to
it
in
more
detail.
But
we
are
confident
that
that
those
items
have
been
addressed
so.
F
D
C
F
C
C
Sorry
I'm
sorry,
initial
study
is
the
document.
That's
in
your
packet
correctly
addressed
both
burrowing
owl
and
migratory
bird
treaty
Act
mitigation.
Those
are
both
included.
They
they
would
prefer
a
different
language,
but
the
language
that
is
in
the
document
assures
protection
of
both
migratory
birds
and
burrowing
owls.
C
The
city.
The
city
conducted
the
correct
level
of
review.
The
last
item
that
that
cdfw
requests
is
the
addition
of
a
mitigation
measure
for
the
payment
of
the
mshcp
fee.
However,
that
is
a
standard
requirement
and-
and
we
do
not
include
mitigation
measures
for
standard
requirements,
that
fee
must
be
paid
by
the
developer
before
they
can,
they
can
pull
building
permits.
C
So
we
believe
that
the
the
analysis
was
done
correctly.
The
wording
of
the
mitigation
measures
is
the
standard
wording
we
have.
We
have
used
in
the
city
for
for
it
is
for
years
and
it
and
it
does
not
the
requested
amendments
that
the
department
has
made
in
that
that
wording
do
not
change
either
the
intent
or
the
outcome
of
those
mitigation
measures.
F
C
C
D
M
K
M
D
I,
that's
right,
I'm,
seeing
that
now
it's
between
that
is
located
at
sort
of
the
intersection
of
McCarthy
and
radio
and
extends
up
to
Road
the
parks,
and
this
property
is
a
little
further
to
the
East
and
the
northern
boundary
is
Radio
Road.
So
there
is
a
parcel
between
Radio,
Road
and
Rosa
Parks,
that
is,
it
looks
like
undeveloped,
okay,.
N
Well,
it's
a
certain
amount
of
chair.
Commissioners
is
certainly
a
pleasure
being
here
today
for
extremely
excited
about
this
project.
It's
a
project
that
we've
been
working
on
with
staff
for
probably
about
the
last
12
months
and
can't
say
enough
about
staff.
They've
been
very
helpful
in
helping
us
understand
design
throughout
the
process.
N
N
N
This
is
a
condition
that
we're
gonna
widen
the
road
to
be
consistent
with
our
neighbors,
because
what
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
is
certainly
a
dangerous
situation
with
pedestrians
and
drivers.
So
we've
we've
spoken
with
our
neighbor.
We
will
be
conditioned
to
improve
his
property
as
well.
He
is
on
board
with
that
and
we're
very
excited
so
I
I'd
like
to
introduce
CJ
Rogers
who's,
our
architect
on
this
project,
and
maybe
he
could
say
a
few
words.
E
E
N
Sure
I'll
keep
it
brief.
I
think
you
know
this
is
an
as
of
right
project.
We
are
conforming
with
all
existing
development
standards
outlined
in
code.
In
fact,
we're
really
going
beyond
that
in
terms
of
step
back
in
terms
of
landscaping.
With
that
said,
I
I
think
there's.
There
is
further
review
in
terms
of
landscaping,
design,
I
think
Alex
had
a
comment
about
incorporating
additional
landscaping
and
the
staff
report
on
the
western
property
line.
A
N
C
A
N
N
N
I
Well,
I'm
sure
your
marketing
team
does
the
research
to
show
there's
several
similar
size
facilities
under
construction
or
in
the
pipeline,
for
instance,
a
long
Pinot,
Tree
North
of
the
or
east
of
the
airport
and
I'm
here.
So
those
aren't
going
to
bring
you
over
capacity
in
terms
of
this
Outreach
or
not.
N
A
I
Yeah,
just
kind
of
it
was
going
back
on
my
theme
of
landscape,
I
and
I
know
the
applicant
said
this
is
relatively
preliminary.
I,
don't
have
any
objections
to
any
of
the
species
that
are
proposed.
They
seem
to
be
all
desert
worthy
plants.
I
did
note
that
there
aren't
any
palm
trees
proposed
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
a
personal
preference
or
not,
but
this
is
a
pretty
big
site.
I
I
would
hope
that
you'd
be
able
to
put
in
a
couple
of
palm
trees
just
to
kind
of
carry
on
the
namesake
of
the
city,
Palm
Springs
and
then
my
only
other
comment
regarding
the
landscape
is
some
of
the
species
while
they're
showing
at
24
or
36
inch
box
seem
a
little
short
in
terms
of
their
overall
height
and
I.
Think
you
should
be
able
to
find
some
specimens
that
are
taller
at
the
time.
They're
installed
sure.
N
A
A
And
my
other
question
is
possibly
one
for
staff
regarding
the
fish
and
wildlife
I'm
I'm
concerned
generally,
maybe
not
on
this
specific
project.
The
kind
of
reporting
that
they're
asking
for
is
something
I'm
very
sympathetic
to
doing
and
I
I.
Don't
know
that
I
necessarily
want
to
change
the
Ned
deck
here.
A
But
I
really
would
like
you
to
go
through
their
the
what
they're
requesting
we
do
and
see
if
we
can't
use
the
language
now
that
that
fish
and
wildlife
is
requesting
in
future
projects
and
I,
don't
know
how
we
do
that
with
this,
but
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
we've
just
sort
of
said.
Well,
we
haven't
done
it
and
we
don't
need
to
do
it.
A
I
Well,
I
wanted
to
include
an
inclusion
of
larger
size
plant
material
at
time
of
planting
in
terms
of
the
overall
height.
Some
of
the
overall
Heights
on
the
species
are
only
in
the
five
to
seven
foot
range
and
I.
Think
it's
pretty
easy
to
find
specimens
that
are
upwards
of
12
to
14
feet
at
a
minimum,
and
I
also
want
to
pick
up
on
what
you
said
share
or
make
about
trees
along
Radio
Road
and
the
trees
along
San
Rafael
that
they
should
be
a
substantial
size.
A
I
B
Yes,
Madam
chair,
excuse
me
wanted
to
remove
out
of
condition
11.
the
third
sentence
and
I
wanted
to
insert
into
condition
number
eight
I
want
to
delete
the
second
sentence
in
its
entirety
and
say
instead,
that
the
project
is
conditioned
will
comply
with
the
water,
efficient
landscape,
ordinances
of
the
city
and
the
state
and
we'll
comply
with
Riverside
County
Agricultural
Commissioners
Office
requirements.
D
D
C
A
H
C
A
To
see
is
the
Palm
Springs
city
of
Palm
Springs
for
a
general
plan,
Amendment
and
Zone
text
amendment
to
modify
density
standards
and
revised
legal
non-conforming
criteria
for
existing
hotel
and
multi-family
residential
structures.
Staff
report-
please-
and
this
is
also
a
after
the
staff
report
and
questions.
We
will
take
public
comments
there.
The
city
is
the
applicant.
D
D
Staff
were
directed
at
that
time
to
study
the
issues
and
return
with
Excuse
me
with
proposed
amendments
to
eliminate
potential
barriers
to
housing,
production
and
tonight's
recommendations
are
the
result
of
that
work.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
these
in
more
detail,
but
for
the
general
plan
we
are
essentially
proposing
two
changes.
D
The
first
would
apply
to
legally
operating
hotels
and
time
shares
that
were
originally
constructed
as
apartments
and
would
allow
them
to
convert
back
to
apartment
uses
at
the
same
density
level.
They
were
originally
constructed
at.
The
second
would
apply
within
the
CBD
CBD
district,
downtown
central
business
district
and
would
provide
certain
exceptions
from
the
underlying
density
requirements
to
ensure
that
mixed-use
development
can
accommodate
residential
uses
and
again
I'll
talk
about
that
in
more
detail
for
the
Zone
text,
Amendment.
What
we're
essentially
doing
is
proposing
to
effectuate
the
general
plan.
D
Amendments
I,
just
talked
about
on
the
hotel
and
two
apartment,
conversions
by
establishing
a
new
conditional
use.
Permit
that
would
be
applicable
to
those
conversions.
I
would
also
include
administrative
language,
as
well
as
the
associated
findings
for
that
for
that
cup,
so,
starting
with
the
hotel
conversions,
what
we
are
seeing
is
that
changes
to
the
general
plan
and
Zoning
code
made
over
many
years
have
placed
more
restriction
on
residential
development
than
was
typically
in
effect
at
the
time
of
the
original
Construction,
specifically
regulations
regarding
maximum
permitted
density.
D
In
one
example,
we
are
aware
of
a
45
room
hotel
that
proposed
to
convert
back
to
a
45-unit
apartment
as
it
was
originally
constructed.
However,
under
today's
regulations,
an
established
density
standards,
only
24
Apartments
would
be
permitted
today
reducing
over
half
of
the
potential
apartments
from
that
site.
Historically,
as
you
know,
these
were
often
Studio
or
one-bedroom
apartments
that
could
provide
a
more
affordable
housing
typology
to
meet
current
housing
needs.
D
However,
our
current
rules
would
preclude
their
conversion
or
even
encourage
that
they'd
be
converted
to
larger
or
more
expensive
units,
two
or
three
bedrooms
to
get
down
to
that
24
unit
number,
but
a
rummy
remedy.
This
we
are
looking
at
the
following
changes:
I'm
not
going
to
read
everything
that
you're
going
to
see
on
the
next
couple
of
slides
I'll
try.
To
paraphrase
so.
D
Please
ask
any
questions,
but
the
first
item
is
that
we
propose
the
addition
of
a
statement
on
page
2-3
of
the
general
plan
indicating
that
such
conversions
are
permitted
at
their
original
density
through
the
grant
of
a
conditional
use
permit
to
ensure
consistency
within
the
general
plan.
We
also
need
to
rescind
and
replace
land
use
policy
7.9,
which
today
states
that
hotel
conversions
are
strongly
discouraged
in
light
of
the
city's
current
housing
goals
and
needs.
D
We
are
proposing
to
replace
that
text
with
a
more
affirmative
statement
that
supports
the
conversion
of
small
hotels
to
housing
units
as
appropriate
through
the
conditional
use
permit
process
land
use
action.
7.5
would
also
be
deleted
in
its
entirety,
as
it
essentially
directs
that
the
zoning
code
be
updated
to
establish
procedures
and
requirements
for
hotel
conversions,
which
is
what
we
are
achieving
with
this
proposal.
So
it
becomes
redundant
to
further
codify
this
process.
D
We
are
also
proposing
a
new
section,
be
added
to
the
zoning
code
in
chapter
9405
to
regulate
these
conversions
and
the
associated
cup
process.
The
news
section
would
apply
to
any
structure
which
is
lawfully
being
used
as
a
hotel,
motel
or
transient
lodging,
but
which
was
originally
constructed
as
an
apartment
or
apartment
Hotel.
D
For
example,
a
specific
parking
plan
could
be
sought
by
thought
from
the
commission
by
the
applicant,
for
exemptions
may
be
available
through
current
code
for
certain
historic
properties
such
as
class
one
and
two
historic
sites,
specific
findings.
The
commission
would
need
to
make
to
Grant
the
cop
are
listed
here
and
they
are
intended
to
ensure
that
the
conversion
is
contributing
positively
to
the
city's
overall
housing
stock,
as
shown
in
condition
one
or
finding
one
that
it
will
not
have
adverse
impact
on
city
services
or
Public
Safety.
D
But
the
development
is
harmonious
with
the
surrounding
community
and
meets
applicable
Property
Standards,
but
there
are
no
adverse
traffic
or
circulation
impacts
and
that
sufficient
measures
are
in
place
for
ongoing
property
management
and
security.
This
will
allow
the
commission
to
review
these
applications
on
a
case-by-case
basis
to
ensure
their
appropriateness
and
that
the
use
is
appropriately
conditioned.
D
Finally,
the
amendment
includes
standard
language
regarding
revocation
for
failure
to
meet
the
conditions,
as
well
as
administrative
language,
about
the
commission's
authority
to
Grant
the
cup,
which
are
these
items
shown
on
this
page
together.
We
believe
that
these
changes
will
establish
a
clear
process
for
the
conversion
of
these
small
hotel
uses
into
apartment
uses
that
will
remove
barriers
to
housing
production,
but
also
ensuring
an
appropriate
level
of
oversight
by
the
commission.
D
The
second
item
is
regarding
mixed-use
development
in
the
CBD
or
Central
business
district,
which
is
primarily
located
downtown.
These
changes
are
a
bit
simpler.
Again.
Changes
to
regulations
over
the
years
have
established
higher
density
requirements
for
the
CBD
to
encourage
more
business
and
more
residents
in
our
downtown.
D
We
are
still
very
much
supportive
of
that
goal,
and
that
has
not
changed.
However,
there
have
been
some
unintended
consequences
of
these
policies
that
may
in
effect
become
barriers
to
housing
production
in
some
instances,
and
that's
the
goal
that
we
are
trying
to
correct
here.
More
specifically,
the
general
plan
establishes
a
minimum
density
Target
of
21
units
per
acre
within
the
CBD.
This
minimum
often
cannot
be
met
in
smaller,
existing
building
stock
that
exists
downtown.
D
Second
is
a
new
mixed
use.
Development
that
is
proposing
substantial
commercial
use
along
the
the
ground
floor
of
a
major
thoroughfare,
because
that
space
is
being
taken
up
by
commercial
or
non-residential
use.
It
isn't
going
into
the
calculation
of
density,
and
so
you
know
other
development,
standards
and
site
conditions
are
such
that
it
can
be
difficult
to
meet
that
density
Target,
while
also
providing
ground
floor
commercial,
which
is
also
a
goal
of
ours.
D
So
you'll
recall,
for
example,
recent
discussions
around
Rios,
which
is
a
mixed
use,
project
on
North
Palm
Canyon,
which
received
positive
feedback
from
the
commission
at
a
study
session
a
little
over
a
year
ago.
That
project
is
proposing
ground
level,
commercial
along
Palm
Canyon,
with
25
housing
units
behind
resulting
in
a
density
of
11
units
per
acre.
So
you
can
see
how
that
is
coming
in
under
the
21
units,
that
per
acre
that
are
required
by
the
general
plan.
D
D
We
believe
this
amendment
would
provide
additional
flexibility
that
may
encourage
additional
residential
uses
and
a
particular
May
encourage
more
affordable
housing
typologies
in
the
downtown
core
through
smaller
rental
apartments
in
those
existing
buildings,
for
example,
with
that,
we
are
recommending
that
the
commission
adopt
the
resolution
that
has
been
provided
to
implement
these
changes
and
board
this
to
city
council,
with
a
recommendation
for
approval
with
that
I
conclude
my
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Thank
you.
A
I
Yeah
question
for
Christopher,
head
staff
considered
putting
in
a
minimum
amount
of
commercial
at
the
ground
floor,
that's
required
in
order
to
take
advantage
of
the
lower
density
and
it's
to
address
a
concern
that
I
will
have
is.
Are
we
going
to
have
a
developer
coming
in
and
trying
to
put
in
a
thousand
square
foot
of
commercial
on
the
ground
floor
when
they
could
fit?
D
Right
so
we
didn't
consider
a
minimum
just
because
I
think
it
was
difficult
to
sort
of
account
for
every
situation
in
the
CBD.
The
law,
sizes
and
configurations
are
quite
different.
The
zoning
standards
can
be
different,
but
what
I
will
say
our
interpretation
of
it
is,
and
if
we
need
to
sort
of
think
about
revising
the
language
through
your
decision
tonight
to
make
this
clearer
was
that
in
the
commercial
needs
to
be
provided
along
the
entire
major
thoroughfare's
Frontage
in
order
to
take
advantage
of
that
reduction,
so
you
can't
sort
of
put
a
little.
I
C
D
Right,
the
intention
was
not
for
it
to
sort
of
be
sort
of
a
gym
or
or
any
sort
of
amenity
space
that
would
be
non-residential,
but
for
the
benefit
of
the
residents
only
that
it
would
be
sort
of
retail
space-
or
you
know,
institutional
or
public
service
uses
that
would
be
sort
of
generally
accessible
from
the
street.
So.
D
I
think
when
you
look
historically
at
the
problem
that
we're
solving
and
the
types
of
uses
that
were
originally
constructed
as
apartments
and
then
converted
into
hotels,
which
is
really
the
universe
that
we're
talking
about,
they
are
smaller,
older,
historic
hotels,
so
you're,
not
we.
We
don't
really
have
any
examples
of
really
large
projects
that
were
built
as
apartments
and
have
become
hotels
that
I'm
aware
of
but
I
certainly
look
to
your
expertise.
I
think
we're
really
dealing
with
the
smaller
older
Hotel
stock
in
just
a
few
neighborhoods
of
the
city.
Okay,
all
right.
Thank.
F
A
D
I
And
this
is
found
in
the
page.
Five
of
six
is
where
the
language
is,
where
your
current
language
says
would
be
reduced
from
21
to
10
units
per
acre
for
new
mixed
use.
Projects
that
provide
ground
for
commercial
use
along
the
primary
Apprentice
I
would
recommend
that
the
language
be
for
new
mixed-use
projects
that
provide
a
at
least
75
of
the
frontage
on
the
major
thoroughfare
as
publicly
accessible
and
public
serving
ground
floor.
Commercial
use
along
the
frontage
of
the
major
thoroughfare,
something
to.
I
D
A
G
G
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
small
hotels.
You
know
when
we
look
at
Arenas
right
or
yeah
Arenas
I
mean
we've
got
an
entire
three
of
hotels.
That
range
from
you
know
as
little
as
10
rooms
to
30
rooms,
and
then
we
have
some
much
larger
hotels.
I
think
we
just
need
to
keep
this
as
open
as
possible
in
the
way
that
it's
written,
because
we're
we're
an
anomaly
in
that
we
have
all
these
little
tiny
hotels
and
it's
because
we're
a
resort
town
and
they're
left
over
from
another
era.
A
D
Madam
chair,
if
I
might
intervene
for
one
second
I,
think
the
term
small
is
used
really
as
a
descriptor
in
staff
report
language.
It
actually
isn't
contained
in
the
Amendments
itself,
but
I
can
see.
We
talk
about
lawfully
existing
hotel
and
motel
or
transient
apartment,
or
you
forget
what
the
term
is
sorry
any
structure
which
is
lawfully
being
used
as
the
hotel,
motel
or
other
form
of
transient
lodging,
which
was
originally
constructed
as
and
used
as
an
apartment,
apartment,
hotel
or
similar
use.
G
Madam
Sheriff
I
may
provide
some
clarification
to
I,
had
worked
with
planning
staff
and
coming
up
with
this
language,
as
well
as
the
code
amendments
that
are
proposed
as
well,
and
the
idea
was
that
there
was
not
going
to
be
any
sort
of
a
small
size
limit
or
size
limit
on
it.
Recognizing
the
fact
that
there
may
be
some
large
ones
that
would
fall
into
this
category.
But
the
vast
majority
would
be
on
the
smaller
side.
G
D
A
A
I
G
F
B
I'm
sure
I
would
like
to
Echo
that
we
asked
for
this
some
time
ago
and
I
know.
Staff
has
put
work
into
it.
The
City
attorney
has
I,
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
produce
apartments
or
not
I've
got
my
fingers
crossed
I
hope
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
thing
for
our
buildings
that
are
having
a
hard
time
finding
I
used.
It
supports
them.
G
G
A
H
H
H
So
what
has
been
presented
today
are
of
two
different
lot
sizes.
The
first
one
is
40
foot,
wide
lots
and
then
the
second
one
is
the
45
foot
wide
loss.
Both
of
them
have
will
have
three
different
plants.
They
are
designated
as
plan
one
plan
two
and
plan
three
and
each
of
them
we
have
two
types
of
elevations
designated
as
elevation,
A
and
B.
H
The
difference,
however,
is
that
the
40
foot
weight
loss
will
be
two-story
buildings,
while
the
45
foot
wide
Lots
will
be
one
story
buildings.
The
two-story
buildings
will
range
from
two
thousand
878
Square
1878
square
foot
to
2090
square
foot
and,
as
I
mentioned,
there
will
be
two
story
buildings
and
then
on
the
45
white
Lots.
They
will
range
from
2001
and
84
to
2474
square
foot.
H
So
if
you
recall
modern
chair
with
your
leadership,
a
subcommittee
was
constituted
a
while
back,
and
the
committee
met
to
review
these
plans
on
both
40
and
the
45
foot
wide
Lots
on
September
21st.
They
looked
at
them.
They
were
mostly
pleased
with
the
with
the
designs
in
that,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
they
took
cues
from
the
previous
submittal
that
the
130
homes
that
you
approved
on
May
11
2022.
However,
some
comments
and
directions
were
given.
I
listed
those
comments
in
your
staff
report.
H
So
specifically,
this
is
where
the
new
proposal
will
be
going
to.
As
I
mentioned,
it
will
be
within
phase
two
of
of
Maryland,
and
these
Vlogs
will
be
located
on
the
and
not
Italy
and
South
Israelis
section
of
the
project
site.
The
previous
one
you
approved
were
mostly
in
the
mid
section
and
in
the
southern
south
east
section
of
Maryland.
H
And
this
is
just
a
plotline
of
the
40
foot
weight
loss
which
are
two-story
buildings
and,
as
I
mentioned,
they
are
mostly
2D
south
of
the
Southeast
Sunny
section
of
the
site,
and
here
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
reciprocal
use,
Eastman
area
that
you
will
see
in
this
proposal.
So
essentially
what
it
is
is
that
it
allows
a
lot
a
so
to
say
this
actually
lost
Not,
A
and
B.
H
Another
question
were
asked
about
a
mixing
of
the
single
and
these
two-story
buildings,
but
this
sample
this
is
taken
directly
from
the
design
guideline
from
the
Maryland
design
guidelines.
So,
as
you
can
see,
only
40
foot
wide
Lots.
They
are
all
two-story
buildings,
while
the
45
45
foot
wide
Lots
contain
single
story,
building
I'm
sure
the
applicant
will
want
to
exponentiate
more
on
that
and
because
this
question
also
came
up
during
the
subcommittee
review
and
they
explained
the
reason
why
and
they
are
restricted
to
those
masses.
H
And
here
this
is
this
floor
plan.
So
what
I'm,
showing
you
now
is
the
40-foot
Wireless
which
contain
two-story
buildings,
so
you
will
see
the
if
the
first
floor
and
then
the
second
floor.
The
second
floor
is
limited
to
less
to
50
or
less
by
the
mineral
loan
design
guideline,
and
that's
why
you
see
the
main
difference
in
the
mass
in
here
this
this
floor
floor
types
will
contain
three
bedrooms:
a
loft,
3.5
bathroom
and
a
two-car
garage,
and,
as
I
said
they
will,
it
will
range.
A
H
So
so
this
would
be
the
plan
one
type
of
street
television,
so
they
did
make
some
revisions
as
the
results
of
the
comments
they
received
from
the
subcommunity,
and
the
next
slide
is
the
rear
elevation.
So
what
you
will
see
there
is
that
we
have
added.
One
of
the
comments
from
the
subcommittee
was
that
the
the
overhang
we
increased
from
18
inch
to
24
inch
and
that
that
applies
to
all
all
of
the
191
units.
H
So
this
is
the
perspective
of
how
plant
1A
will
look
like
and
also
it
shows
what
the
color
scheme-
and
this
particular
one
so
overall
Avalon
is
proposing
eight
different
color
scheme.
This
is
color
scheme
number
three.
The
different
color
schemes
are
also
contained
in
the
exhibits
that
you
have,
and
these
are
consistent
with
what
and
the
mirrorland
is
anger
and
calls
for
as
well,
and
here
are
the
elevation
types.
So
this
again
is
the
two
story:
the
maximum
height
on
this
is
24
feet,
which
is
also
consistent
with
the
mineral
design
guidelines.
H
So
one
of
the
comments
that
really
that
featured
very
prominently
during
the
subcommittee
review
is
the
the
left
side
elevations,
which,
according
to
the
subcommitter
at
that
time,
was
not
well
articulated,
so
they
went
back
and
changed
it,
and
this
is
what
what
is
now
before
you
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
couldn't
do
a
whole
lot
on.
This
is
because
of
that
reciprocal
use
is
meant.
Most
of
the
windows
are
limited
to
clear
story,
time
to
guarantee
privacy
in
this
area.
H
H
H
H
H
And
this
is
the
perspective,
drawing
of
it
the
rendering
so
Madam,
chair,
I,
don't
know
how
much
of
this
you
want
me
to
go.
I
have
over
107
slides
so,
but
they
all
look,
they
are
they.
They
are
very
this.
These
are
all
taken
from
the
exhibits
that
you
have
before
you,
but
one
thing
I
do
want
to
talk
about
again
yeah.
This
is
what
I
like
to
show
you
again,
and
this
is
this
one
indicates
a
little
bit
better
than
the
previous
one
that
you
saw.
You
saw
the
see
the
offset
here.
H
C
A
A
H
All
right,
so
I
will
pause
here.
I'll
still
recommendation
is
to
approve
the
the
final
PDD,
but
if
there
are
any
additional
comments
or
recommendations
that
we
should
carry
forward
to
Arc
staff
will
be
looking
forward
to
receiving
those.
So
my
name
will
conclude
my
staff
report.
The
applicant
team
is
also
here.
If
you
have
any
question
for
them.
Thank
you.
A
O
We
do
this
is
my
very
brief
introduction
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
architects
of
Robert
Architects.
We
have
with
us
Dan,
Weibel
and
Colin
Lou
Who
can
answer
particular
technical
questions,
but
I
just
wanted
to
thank
commissioner
hirschbine
in
particular
for
participating
in
the
subcommittee
meeting.
I
thought
that
that
was
a
very
successful
way
to
approach
this
design
and
to
reiterate
Edward's
earlier
comments,
we
tried
to
synthesize
the
feedback
that
we
received
from
the
50-foot
wide
product
and
incorporate
those
design
ideas
into
these.
O
O
So
you've
got
all
one
stories
on
one
side
to
accommodate
the
settlement
agreement
and
all
two
stories
to
deliver
enough
livable
space
to
make
the
unit
functional
and
also
offer
a
two-car
garage
and
all
the
other
things
that
the
I
believe
the
city
wants
to
see.
So
that's
my
piece
I
will
turn
it
over
to
RHA
I
I
we're
prepared
to
go
through
every
slide,
but
Edward
sort
of
just
started
down
that
path.
O
F
Well,
I
thought
it
was
a
successful
meeting
and
I'm
happy
that
it's
going
to
go
on
to
Architectural,
Review
committees,
so
I
think.
If
we
do
have
some
specific
concerns,
we
should
relay
them
to
Arc
and
I.
My
only
question
is
on
an
offset.
What
is
it,
what
is
it
so
I'm
sure
they'll
answer
that
question.
E
E
E
E
Foreign,
a
couple
of
our
quick
items
in
the
interest
of
time,
the
the
plan
one
you
brought
up
about
a
direct
access
for
the
for
the
bathroom.
If
you
look
at
the
floor
plan
in
that
Loft,
there's
a
secondary
bath
on
the
other
side
of
that
Loft.
That
allows
both
a
bad
bedroom
at
the
back
of
the
house
to
utilize
that
bathroom
and
anybody
in
the
loft.
A
E
You
okay,
another
item:
I
wanted
to
brought
up
and
I
want.
Bread
I
think
did
a
good
job
of
explaining
the
one
story
versus
a
two-story,
but
I
do
want
to
mention
that
that,
on
the
two-story
homes,
the
40-foot
Lots
we
have
intentionally
set
the
second
floor,
massing
back
and
held
that
back
from
the
street
Edge
recognizing
that
we
have
one-story
homes
across
the
street.
It
just
didn't
feel
appropriate
to
stack
that
masking
towards
the
front.
E
E
The
square
footages
I,
just
want
to
point
out
to
Edward.
There
may
be
some
typos
in
in
your
presentation.
Are
our
40-foot
product
is
larger?
Being
that
it's
two-story
its
square
footage
range
is
from
20
to
about
2200
square
feet,
to
2800
square
feet
and
the
one
story
product,
the
45
foot
wide
product
ranges
from
about
1700
square
feet
to
2000
square
feet.
E
The
two-story
product,
as
I
mentioned
all,
backs
up
to
open,
Green
Space,
so
all
of
those
will
have
oh,
the
outdoor
living
and
the
spool
area
will
be
towards
the
back
of
the
house
where,
on
the
one
story,
product
the
45
45s,
we
have
three
different
floor
plans
on
each
one
of
those
floor.
Plans
offers
the
Spool
in
a
different
location.
One
is
towards
the
front,
one
is
towards
the
rear,
and
one
is
right
in
the
middle.
E
E
A
I
have
some
questions
if
other
people
don't
and
they're
they're
ones,
I've
asked
at
other
meetings.
What
I
didn't
see
here
was
the
gate
that
leads
out
to
the
exclusive
you
through
the
exclusive
use
common
area
to
the
Olive
Grove
and
on
some
of
the
first
chalices
I
looked
at.
They
had
not
looked
at
a
path
of
travel
and
then
just
put
the
pool
in
front
of
it
and
left
no
way
for
the
residents
to
really
get
down
through
that
exclusive
use
area
to
the
walking
paths.
A
O
I
can
respond
to
that.
So,
yes,
I
I,
would
agree
with
you.
We've
kind
of
learned
our
lesson,
those
those
fences
so
for
the
first
you
know
200
or
so
units
that
are
either
fully
constructed
or
under
construction.
Now,
those
that
back
to
the
open
space
do
all
have
Gates
on
them.
In
some
instances,
those
Gates
do
not
align
with
a
a
a
reasonable
walking
path.
O
I
think
those
those
gates
are,
you
know,
approved
by
this
commission,
ultimately
they're
installed
by
the
Builder,
and
so
it's
been
an
education
process
for
us
as
developers
to
work
with
the
builders
I
think
we're
better
informed
going
forward.
So
I
think
what
we
should
we'll
do
with
you
know
the
the
next
submittal
to
Arc.
If
that's,
the
committee's
recommendation
is
we'll
adjust
the
belongs
to
reflect
the
location
of
the
gates,
away
from
the
pools,
to
the
extent
that
there's
a
pool
in
the
rear
yard.
A
F
A
F
No
I
didn't
see
anything
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
Arc
has
the
opportunity
to
review
the
changes
that
were
made
and
make
sure
they're
happy
with
it.
I
I
really
deferred
to
them
on
a
lot
of
the
discussion
points,
so
I
I
think
they're
capable
of
doing
that.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
developer,
though,
about
the
public
comment
we
have
about
that
Kate.
Was
there
Merit
to
that
comment,
or
is
it
something
that
you
feel
is
not
necessary?.
O
Well,
I
I'm
happy
to
address
it.
I
think
it's
outside
the
context
of
this
conversation
only
because
it's
it's
part
of
the
larger
approval
for
the
the
project
and
and
so
in
in
the
sense
that
you
know
the
the
larger
mail
project
has
an
approval.
There
are
certain
there
are
conditions
that
people
that
go
along
with
that
and
we
have
constructed
our
business
plan
to
conform
with
that
and
if
you
may
recall,
because
I
know
I
believe,
commissioner
hershbein
you
were
involved
in
our
original
kind
of
re-entitlement
efforts.
O
We
had
received
some
pushback
from
our
neighbors
to
the
southeast
that
they
were
concerned.
There
was
going
to
be
a
bunch
of
construction
traffic
if
we
were
to
open
up
that
gate.
So
we
agreed
to
this
is
not
a
condition
of
the
project
per
se,
but
we
agreed
on
the
record
that
we
wouldn't
open
up
that
facility
until
the
Sunrise
extension
was
finally
made
and
connected.
O
O
And
that
is
a
conditioned
a
part
of
the
project
and,
as
the
conditions
read
that
needs
to
be
open
by
the
time
the
600
I
think
19th
certificate
of
occupancy
is
is
issued
at
the
site,
which
is
roughly
halfway
through
the
project
and
were
I
would
say
roughly
a
quarter
of
the
way
through
the
project,
at
least
from
a
single
family
perspective.
Currently,
thank
you.
I.
A
I
was
out
at
Maryland
community
police
meeting,
and
it
was
an
issue
that
got
raised
by
the
community
while
I
was
there
basic
basic,
a
basic
safety
concern
about
making
that
U-turn
an
Indian
I
know
you've
construct
I,
just
just
to
say
to
you
it's.
It
is
a
very
general
concern
of
the
people
who've
bought
in
yes,.
O
So
if
you've
been
there,
you
noticed
that
the
intersection
of
Indian
and
sunrise
is
signalized.
So
I
I
understand
that
if
you
live
on
the
south
side
of
the
project
to
drive
all
the
way
through
the
North
and
then
make
a
left
onto
Sunrise
and
a
left
onto
Indian
is
a
longer
way
to
go.
But
if
safety
is
the
primary
concern,
then
that
sort
of
obviates
that
concern
or
at
least
moderates
it.
A
A
O
O
We've
also
talked
to
them
about
the
manufacturers
they
used
versus
the
ones
that
we've
considered
in
these
cases,
they're
not
markedly
dissimilar,
I
know
that
there's
been
the
idea
that
if
we
did
some
aluminum
type
windows
that
might
be
a
better
product
to
be
frank,
that's
not
a
product,
that's
readily
available
anymore
and
and
frankly,
you
know
we're
talking
about
40s
kind
of
technology,
which
has
a
certain
look
and
feel.
But
going
back
to
that
is
not
going
to
solve
the
problem.
O
So
you
know
part
of
its
basic
upbeat
key
part
of
it's
just
recognizing,
yes,
that
the
climactic
conditions
here
are
such
that
at
times,
no
matter
what
you
do,
hurricane
windows,
what
have
you
aren't
going
to
stop
all
the
blowing
dust
and,
notwithstanding
the
fact
that
you
know
we
are
in
Southern
California
and
the
notion
that
we
would
try
to
import
a
technology
that
is
frankly
rarely
implemented?
Even
in
you
know,
I.
A
F
A
A
O
O
So
we
are
absolutely
looking
into
that
issue.
We're
aware
of
the
concern
you
know
we
will.
You
know
we
will
work
with
the
builder
to
ensure
that
the
windows
are
installed
properly,
that
they're
properly
rated.
That
they're
aware
of
the
issue
going
in
you
know
part
of
this
I
won't
say
it
will
resolve
itself
over
time,
but
as
more
units
are
added
and
the
olive
trees
grow,
then
some
of
those
windy
conditions,
maybe
down
the
windiest
days,
but
on
you
know
more
mild
days.
O
Those
will
dissipate
over
time
because
everything
will
mature
and
they'll
just
be
more.
You
know
things
in
the
way
to
break
up
the
wind
and
hopefully
knock
down
some
of
that
dust.
That's
you
know
blowing
around
and
it's
frankly
unsurprising
that
the
some
of
the
early
complaints
were
from
the
Woodbridge
homes,
because
they
were
you
know
facing
those
rear
yards
were
facing
immediately
to
the
West
and
there
was
nothing
to
stop
there.
O
A
So
we've
stopped
your
architect's
presentation,
I'm,
getting
a
sense
that
the
commission
does
not
need
to
hear
it
that
we're
really
at
a
point
of
approved.
Approving
this
I
I
haven't
heard
major
concerns
about
the
work
that
was
done.
I
haven't
heard
any
concerns
about
the
work
that
was
done
so
crafting
emotion.
A
H
A
A
G
G
C
O
Thank
you
very
much,
yes,
we're
very
proud
of
it
and
we
just
need
to
get
more
homes
up,
so
we
can
activate
it
more
fully.
So
but
yes,
we're
happy
to
host
the
occasional
event.
In
fact,
we
have
a
modernism
that
I
think
scheduled
for
Friday,
which
I
understand
commissioner
hershbein
May
at
10,
so
hope
you
enjoy
it
and
encourage
everybody
to
come
out
and
visit
when
they
have
the
chance
that.
A
F
Yeah
yeah
I'll
make
it
quick
I
for
my
question
had
concerns
about
the
SQL
report
that
we're
asked
to
review
and
the
response
from
fishing
wildlife
and
there's.
There
are
previous
reports
that
had
other
what
might
be
considered
problem
mainly
that
housing
project
just
to
the
west
of
Vons,
when
we
had
to
rely
on
the
testimony
of
concerned
biologists
about
the
look
about
the
possibility
that
there
were
endangered
species
on
the
site.
B
F
Well,
I
mean
there
was
that
problem
with
the
Vons
I,
don't
know
the
names.
Some
outside
biologists
came
and
told
us.
These
problems
see
the
SQL
consultant,
just
I,
don't
know
if
she
completely
ignored
them,
but
she
certainly
can
call
it
out
as
an
issue,
and
then
we
we
I
mean
we're
not
that,
but
we
started
crafting
these
conditions
around
what
this
outside
biologist
was
telling
us
and
I
just
think
that
speaks
to
maybe
the
quality
of
the
reports
we're
getting,
and
maybe
staff
should
be
looking
at
other
Consultants.
D
So
that
is
a
more
challenging
discussion,
but
it's
certainly
something
that's
top
of
mind
for
us,
because
you
know
we
are
having
difficulty
getting
the
Consultants
that
we
we
have
historically
used
to
agree
to
take
our
work
on
so
that
I'm
afraid
is
a
more
difficult
solution.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
on
your
radar
as
something
that
we're
sorting
through
outside
of
this
particular
issue
that
isn't
necessarily
readily
available
to
us.
D
B
B
How
how
many,
if
any,
what
progress
we've
made
towards
those
just
so
so
we
can
keep
track
of
this
so
that
we
know
when
we
improve
something
that
we
don't
want
to
prove
everything
above
moderate
and
then
be
stuck
with
not
having
enough
land
left
over
to
meet
arena
allocations
for
lower
income
categories,
so
I'd,
like
staff
to
at
least
include
that
information.
Our
staff
report.
That's
my
request
and
my
question
is:
where
are
we
on
the
update
of
the
housing
element?
B
D
Went
to
the
state
it
came
back,
it
went
back
and
we're
sort
of
in
a
bit
of
a
a
standoff
is
not
the
right
word.
But
I
will
say
that
the
state
is
continuing
to
take
a
fairly
rigid
and
firm
position
on
our
ability
to
regulate
group
group
homes
specifically,
and
they
are
sort
of
asking
us
to
go
beyond
what
we
believe
is
required
by
state
law
in
terms
of
of
Permitting
them,
essentially
as
of
right
in
all
instances
and
I.
D
Think
it's
certainly
the
city's
position
that
we
be
very
supportive
and
accommodating
of
group
home
facilities,
but
I
think
historically,
we've
had
some
parameters
around
when
they
reach
a
certain
threshold
or
provide
a
certain
level
of
service.
How
we
consider
those
in
terms
of
their
compatibility
with
neighborhoods.
D
Think
hcd
has
just
really
bogged
down,
so
we're
continuing
to
push
them
on
it.
We're
continuing
to
request
information
that
will
allow
us
to
address
the
comments
that
they
continue
to
raise,
but
we're
sort
of
in
a
bit
of
a
holding
pattern.
I'll
say
that
so
what
we
are
hoping
to
do
is
get
that
resolved
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
certainly
come
back
early
next
year
with
an
update
on
it.
D
D
D
Some
proposed
changes
to
daycare
and
child
care
uses,
and
so
the
objective
here
is
to
remove
barriers
to
those
uses.
Currently,
in
a
lot
of
instances,
they
require
a
cup
or
a
land
use
permit,
which
adds
obviously
additional
time
and
cost
asked
to
what
can
sometimes
be
a
very
small
operation,
and
so
we
want
to
encourage
those
to
locate
more
freely
throughout
the
city
without
a
lot
of
barriers.